TBT: Sloan Bella - Mystical Mother

Throwback Thursday (Originally aired: 6/19/24) — because some conversations are timeless, especially the spiritual ones. Bunnie sits down with mystical mother, psychic medium, and Master Astrologer Sloan Bella. Sloan opens up about her unique upbringing, discovering her psychic gifts, and her path to motherhood and spiritual healing. They dive into deep topics like past lives, soulmate connections, and communicating with loved ones who have passed. Later, Sloan does an impromptu birth chart reading for Bunnie and Jelly Roll, providing insights into their astrological personalities, compatibility, and future predictions. Sloan Bella: Website https://sloanbella.com/ | TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@sloanbella?lang=en Watch Full Episodes & More: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Dumbblondepod

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• 1:30Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on?

• 1:32Speaker 04

  Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.

• 1:36Bunnie XO?

  Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child and here we are.

• 1:47Bunnie XO?

  What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, we have our mystical mother here, Sloane Bella. I know you've been called a lot of things, but you are our mystical mother. I love that. I love that. I'm so excited to be here. It's so exciting. Dude, so I walked in, Sloane has this package that she literally wrapped to the gods for me. And we got it open and it was the most beautiful obsidian ball. It looks like my own personal eight ball. Like it is the most amazing gift I've ever gotten, along with tons of other crystals and stuff like that. Like it was, it was really cool.

• 2:23Speaker 05

  For the new studio.

• 2:24Bunnie XO?

  I know.

• 2:25Speaker 05

  To raise the vibes and have it go really well.

• 2:28Bunnie XO?

  I appreciate it so much.

• 2:29Speaker 05

  It was such a pleasure bringing it because it came off my set to your set.

• 2:33Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love that.

• 2:34Speaker 05

  Came from my home to your home. Literally. It was one that I used that was out every day. So I wanted to bring it to you.

• 2:39Bunnie XO?

  Yay. When I find the perfect place for it in the studio, I will video it. I'll make a video and I'll tag you in it so that you can see where it's at.

• 2:46Speaker 05

  Awesome, awesome.

• 2:47Bunnie XO?

  Sloan, I'm really stoked to have you here. Like I have, I've been nervous, not gonna lie, because there's some things I want to ask you about, you know, Jay and I and like just life that I'm, I don't know if I want the answer to, but it's like you are the most honest.

• 3:03Speaker 05

  Trying to be.

• 3:03Bunnie XO?

  Person I've seen on the internet who just keeps it 100. I dabble in all things, like I guess you could say occult and I'm obsessed with death and like I love just everything mystical.

• 3:15Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 3:16Bunnie XO?

  And when you came across my radar, I was like, who is this woman? And then the more that I studied your story and got to know who you were as a human, I was like, this is my long lost sister.

• 3:27Speaker 05

  We probably are to some degree.

• 3:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 3:31Speaker 05

  It's so interesting. Yeah, because we both left home at 14, uh, just decided to up and go. I think you were in a warmer climate. I was not.

• 3:38Bunnie XO?

  I was here in Vegas.

• 3:39Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. No, I was in Toronto. So it was more of a stupid decision, you know, to run away with just the clothes you're wearing because it was pretty cold.

• 3:47Bunnie XO?

  Freezing.

• 3:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was October. It was our, it was our Halloween, Thanksgiving in Canada. So I remember what, do you remember the day you decided to run away?

• 3:55Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely. Like I can visualize it and everything, exactly what I did.

• 3:59Speaker 05

  I did. I took a purse. I took my Marilyn Monroe book and out the door I went.

• 4:02Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I took a trash bag of clothes.

• 4:04Speaker 05

  Did you? Oh, you had a trash bag?

• 4:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. And to this day, I pack up everything in trash bags. Doesn't matter how much money I have, I will literally throw all of my clothes from my closet in trash bags. And just so I can, that's how I move clothes.

• 4:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's probably the best way to do it till you hang up. Yeah, you can hang them up. I mean, because they're gonna get wrecked anyway.

• 4:24Bunnie XO?

  I don't know. I've never understood people who fold their clothes and put them in boxes like fucking put them in a bag, dump it out and.

• 4:29Speaker 05

  And sort it out and throw it out and give it away. Yeah, absolutely. So I kind of feel like we do know each other in the sense we went kind of in two different directions. Both sex work, but a little bit different.

• 4:41Bunnie XO?

  Well, let's, let's circle back. Let's start from the beginning because I want my, you know, followers who don't know your story to really get to know you, where you came from and how you came to be this just mystical mother.

• 4:54Speaker 05

  I love that you call me that.

• 4:55Bunnie XO?

  You are, you're right. You're just like, I like, I look up to everything you do. I think it's amazing.

• 4:59Speaker 05

  That's awesome because my greatest gift was being a mother. So that was the thing I was here to do.

• 5:05Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 5:06Speaker 05

  That's what I feel. Yeah. And looking back on my life, there was one thing and it was that.

• 5:10Bunnie XO?

  Let's talk about your childhood and where this all started and all that.

• 5:14Speaker 05

  Okay, so it's kind of interesting because I was adopted. So you never really give much thought as to what happens because you don't remember. You're like a newborn.

• 5:23Bunnie XO?

  You're, okay, so you're a mother. Go ahead.

• 5:25Speaker 05

  My mom had me and gave me up after she gave birth to me and I went into the, I was in foster care for 10 months. So people I don't know were watching me and it's, it's interesting because it didn't occur to me that that would be trauma until uh, my son just had our second granddaughter and I'm watching her and she's not even the age I was when I was adopted and I see all the love that went into her and then I'm like, I have no memory, no pictures, no memory, none of that. I mean, you don't really remember, but I can see with my granddaughter how loved she is. So it, it occurred to me this week, looking at her because she's nine and a half months. That, oh, she's so cute. Um, looking at her that did I recall like what happened in that timeframe?

• 6:08Bunnie XO?

  They say trauma starts at the moment of conception.

• 6:12Speaker 05

  Pretty sure.

• 6:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, they do. There's a book. I'll tell you, I'll, I'll get you the name of it.

• 6:16Speaker 05

  I believe it. Yeah, I believe it. And I know, I know people say, because my parents adopted me at ten months and my adopted mother, who was a nightmare for people who know, she was very well educated businesswoman, overpowering and crazy. Okay, looking back on it, I think she may have actually had a few screws missing. But it was difficult. She told me something and she said she kept coming to the orphanage or she called it that. So whatever, the place that housed the baby housing place. And she was looking for a child. She was at forty, looking for a child. And she said, I was the only one. She came back three times and I was the only one that called out to her.

• 6:59Speaker 05

  So that's karma right there. Next life, I'm not doing that. Very clearly will not, not doing it.

• 7:06Bunnie XO?

  Do you believe that you signed up for that, though? Like you came here for that lesson? Or do you think it was?

• 7:12Speaker 05

  I, you know, I know people like to say that. In the past few years, I've changed my mind. I believe I was kidnapped here, actually. Like I'm being dead serious. I think I was hijacked here, or maybe people change after they make the agreement and then we're stuck in that until we're not. But I did walk away from it. I do know when you're adopted, you don't hold attachment to a lot because they, they, my family would say, you know, we chose you, this and that, which technically, yes. And I think that led me right into stripping, honestly, because it's like, pick me. You know, pick me. And so I never correlated it, but I actually believe that now. And I found it extremely difficult. They were very educated people

• 7:55Speaker 05

  and well schooled and very proper. And I'm sorry, I'm laughing at that because I'm so not proper.

• 8:02Bunnie XO?

  We all have to laugh at our trauma.

• 8:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know. I really laugh at that. I was absolutely not proper. My mom was British. And, you know, you had to sit down and wait for dinner to be served and clean the table. It it's good etiquette, but they were so like, you need to marry a man and be a secretary. And I'm like, uh, yeah, no, uh, I'm sorry. No.

• 8:23Bunnie XO?

  Even at a young age, you knew that that's not what you wanted.

• 8:25Speaker 05

  No, no, absolutely not. It, when I was a little kid, I used to tell my mom, I'm gonna go to California. I don't know why I had that in my head and my husband's there. And, you know, and he was, and he, well, yeah, anyway, he was also Canadian. So it was really interesting. That too is karma. So the childhood stuff was good. I had the usual. I went to private boarding school. The usual for the British. Okay. I'll say it that way in Canada. Boarding schools, I would get expelled. You know, I was naughty. Expelled, expelled. Then I went to private school, expelled. Uh, you know, that kind of thing. And I would never stay in school. I wouldn't stay put because I couldn't grasp what they were saying, I guess, if that makes sense.

• 9:04Speaker 05

  Um, it was dumb to me and I was no good at math, but I was good at English. So I would stay for English and art and then gym and leave, or what we call physical education and then leave and get in trouble constantly. And when I was really little, like first and second grade, you'll love this one. I know you'll appreciate this. Did you ever get yelled at in school for talking too much?

• 9:24Bunnie XO?

  I, I'm smiling because I got expelled from school.

• 9:27Speaker 05

  There you go.

• 9:28Bunnie XO?

  I had to sit at the table and have, wait till dinner got served. I had to clean up the table.

• 9:32Speaker 05

  All that nonsense.

• 9:33Bunnie XO?

  Literally, like.

• 9:34Speaker 05

  Nonsense.

• 9:35Bunnie XO?

  No, it's crazy. That's why I'm smiling. Cause I'm just like, I got kicked out of every school I went to. I was called to na- I got expelled from school and, uh, kindergarten for ripping a boy's shirt off of him because he was talking shit about my dad.

• 9:48Speaker 05

  There you go. He deserved it.

• 9:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, literally. No, for sure. But just listening to you talk, I'm just like, oh my gosh.

• 9:55Speaker 05

  It was the sa- it was the same. And what I found even more interesting, which is a psychic trait. So I was in school and I was no, my aptitude for math was ridiculous and I didn't have any and etcetera. But yeah, I mean.

• 10:07Bunnie XO?

  I can, I can count money.

• 10:09Speaker 05

  Yes, of course. That's all that matters. I'm like, who cares?

• 10:13Bunnie XO?

  Who the fuck is doing algebra now in our forties?

• 10:15Speaker 05

  Nobody.

• 10:16Bunnie XO?

  Exactly.

• 10:17Speaker 05

  Said no one ever. I used to argue that and get yelled at for that too, but, um, I love you. I say, what am I gonna do? Actually, in astrology, you do kind of need algebra, but now computers do it all.

• 10:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 10:27Speaker 05

  So I don't, but I did. Um, I, I got, I got humbled by that at one point when I was learning how to do a chart, but. I was in a special class for, they now have like learning disabled classes, but I was dyslexic and ADD and a whole host of god knows what, hyper, hyper person, right? And so I went to a special morning class, I don't know what to call it. I would use a derogatory term, but I won't. Kids in my class could not see, they could not hear, and I could do all of those things, but I was kind of raised through grade school in that class. So it really undermined my confidence. I didn't think I was that smart because I was over here and the other kids were there, but I was able to read Braille to little kids.

• 11:10Speaker 05

  That's what they had me in there for. So I was like, okay, like littler kids that were behind. They didn't have the, the school system that we have, that our kids would have now.

• 11:19Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 11:19Speaker 05

  So I felt not very smart, but I didn't care because I just wanted to be pretty because I had a mother that would say, you know, you look, insert insanity here. So it was very competitive with her, kind of. And she was, um, looking back on it, she might've been like a closet alcoholic, I'm thinking. And it was so detrimental, but she did teach me good things because she was a good businesswoman. She was a strong focused businesswoman and went through three separate careers late into her life. So that part was good. I knew that a woman could do that. She was super strong, so I liked that. I took that part of it. And my dad was the smartest man I knew.

• 12:01Speaker 05

  Super smart, educated, so smart, could converse on anything, alcoholic and crazy. And so I kind of grew up in a house and I'm sure your other guests have said it, but I call it covert sexual abuse because I didn't know the name for it, but they took like the bathroom doors off. So I had to shower in front, you know, so look at the life and then move into stripping, you see? So it's kind of a, a way.

• 12:24Bunnie XO?

  My parents took the doors off the hinges too, but not the bathroom, but to my bedroom. And they nailed my window shut and put bells on the door.

• 12:31Speaker 05

  Like you're a bear.

• 12:32Bunnie XO?

  Literally, I mean, you know, here comes this rebellious ass fucking kid, yeah.

• 12:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, that.

• 12:39Bunnie XO?

  But just even having your privacy compromised at such a young age, you learn, one, not to trust people.

• 12:44Speaker 05

  Nobody.

• 12:45Bunnie XO?

  And two, to literally skate on thin ice and watch, like you're, you become like, um, It's like if somebody moves a certain way, you can read it like you can read.

• 12:54Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, no, I'm triggered by certain people like I'm always not so much now because I don't care. Actually, going through menopause, I don't care. Like I'm like, do what you gotta do. I don't care.

• 13:05Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 13:05Speaker 05

  When I was younger, I was more nervous, almost to the point of like not trying things, you know, hiding and staying hidden. I also think it's a psychic thing because the school I was telling you about with the weirdo classes. Sorry, kids. Um, the weird classes was it was because I was perceptually not picking up what other people did, but I'm psychic. So they tried to correct that out of me, I think.

• 13:32Bunnie XO?

  Did they? Okay, so we're winding back. When you had an encounter with your dad where you asked him, um, where do we go when we die?

• 13:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, I asked him. Yeah, I said, what happens when we die? I was, I distinctly remember four turning five. And he said, you just, you rot in the ground.

• 13:50Bunnie XO?

  I hate when people say that.

• 13:51Speaker 05

  I think he was drunk at the time because, yeah, who says that to a four year old? I was so traumatized. I ran up to my bedroom, hid under the covers and I was like, huh. What happened? So then I'm then me personally, I'm thinking, well, then I should just die now because who cares? That's where I go. I'm like, if I'm going to get there anyway, then so it made me a little bit like suicidal, a little bit.

• 14:12Bunnie XO?

  My gosh, at four or five?

• 14:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, like I thought, why would I be here? Like, what is the point? If that's it and we just rot, I don't even want to play this game. Like I remember thinking that.

• 14:21Bunnie XO?

  To think so deeply like that too, at such a young age is is wild.

• 14:25Speaker 05

  It's, yeah, it's, it was obsessive. Well, I'm OCD too. So it was obsessive thought, rumination. But, um, it the the next thing that happened is my dad's mom came to me, but I didn't know who she was. She was just a lady that appeared in my head.

• 14:40Bunnie XO?

  Was this the first time you had ever had a vision or had you been having them before you asked him what happens when we die?

• 14:46Speaker 05

  I had been seeing aliens. I call them aliens, but I called them earwig men actually, growing up because they look like big, tall, nomadic. Bedouin with the the tarps on them, but they had like, you know what an earwig bug is?

• 15:00Bunnie XO?

  Kind of.

• 15:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, it has the pinchers.

• 15:02Bunnie XO?

  Okay, yes.

• 15:03Speaker 05

  They.

• 15:03Bunnie XO?

  And the legs?

• 15:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, the legs and the pinchers and they stand. So these beings look like that in the face, but covered in like robes.

• 15:11Bunnie XO?

  Yikes.

• 15:11Speaker 05

  And there would be around my bed every night. So I was already waking him up with those stories.

• 15:16Bunnie XO?

  Um. And he just thought you were just being a kid scared of bed?

• 15:20Speaker 05

  No, he thought they thought I was crazy because I was adopted. They can then use adoption against you because you're not theirs. You see?

• 15:27Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 15:28Speaker 05

  So it's like you're crazy. So then the visits to the shrink happened and I'm like, I can't help it. I'm see, you know, I never denied it. I never tried to change it. I just said, no, they're earwig men. At first they looked for bugs and they weren't bugs. I said, no, these are men. And I always say, I thought they hid under the bed. They didn't in the closet. I didn't know where they came from. They were around there. So when my, I technically grandmother adopted, but I didn't know her. She died years before I was even born. When she appeared, I woke my dad up, like I snuck down the hall, tap, tap, tap. He slept closest to the door, so that's why I could get to him. And I told him there was a God. That was what I said to him. He got so mad.

• 16:07Bunnie XO?

  I want a little psychic baby.

• 16:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 16:09Bunnie XO?

  You know what? I would love the shit out of a little psychic baby. I'd like, I'd be like, just, oh my God, I would love it.

• 16:14Speaker 05

  He got so mad. Like he was like, get to your room, wake me up again. And then the spanking started, all of those things, you know, because they wanted me to shut up, basically. He was raised very religiously, I guess. And then as happens, had an issue with it.

• 16:30Bunnie XO?

  My biggest problem with religion is how can you be religious, but not spiritual?

• 16:35Speaker 05

  You can't, I don't think.

• 16:37Bunnie XO?

  It's, well, one's manmade. To me, right. It's insane to me that people preach all this love and this and that, but they don't practice it.

• 16:45Speaker 05

  No, there, that's manmade here and it's money. It's, it's earthbound.

• 16:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 16:49Speaker 05

  So if you, you don't have to go to church. You do not have to go to church. I never went to church. No one, like my dad was off the church by the time I came along. So there was no church. I went with the neighbor kid a couple of times, but that was at her family's request when I stayed over there, but. You don't need church. You either know there's a God or you don't.

• 17:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I grew up in church and I you won't catch me in one now.

• 17:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't.

• 17:09Bunnie XO?

  Think that the the people there are just

• 17:12Speaker 05

  Hypocritical.

• 17:13Bunnie XO?

  For the wrong reasons.

• 17:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, and it's manmade and and it's it's skewed for them to control the masses. So it's a little bit of a hypnotic for the masses. And God is in you, like your creator is with you, period. You don't just end up here and need man to tell you what to do.

• 17:30Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 17:30Speaker 05

  In my opinion.

• 17:31Bunnie XO?

  Exactly. And I just feel like Jesus was a Capricorn. He was a hell of a lot cooler than people try to make him sound. He was not black and white.

• 17:38Speaker 05

  No, no, no, he got mad at people. That's what I always say to when people go out. People say to me, how can you swear if you're spiritual? How can you do this? How can you do that? And I'm like, Jesus did like, what are you saying? He wasn't human. He was in human form. He was the son of God, walking in a human shell like we are. So I get to cuss you out because you asked me a stupid question.

• 17:57Bunnie XO?

  Has Jesus ever appeared to you?

• 17:59Speaker 05

  Not me, no. But I I do feel the spirit in me and I can feel it around me. But no, I have not had that happen. I would love that to happen.

• 18:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that would be amazing, right?

• 18:08Speaker 05

  Wouldn't it? Yeah, I have. I have not had that happen. I have had. Um, I have had visions, though, of when I'm talking to people who who have illness, terminal illness, like they could be my friends, and actually they were my friends. And I know they're getting ready to pass. And this one friend in particular was very Catholic girl. I saw like the Virgin Mary come around her weeks before she died. That's how I knew she was going to die. Like I saw what she prayed to coming around her. So I was like, okay, she will pass soon. I didn't tell her at that time, but I just knew it. And she passed on Palm Sunday, which was really interesting. Yeah.

• 18:47Bunnie XO?

  We're gonna dive into some death talk later on because I have been listening to how you have like predicted a few people's deaths. And I'm like, okay, well, I'm just gonna have a sit down with Sloan and we're gonna talk about death.

• 18:58Speaker 05

  I don't pick that up around you, by the way.

• 19:00Bunnie XO?

  Thank God. All right. Thank you. Um, but uh, so circling back to, you know, you're this four year old girl. You're being told that what you're saying is wrong. You're being sent to shrinks. You're being spanked because of these visions you're having. Take me on the this journey. And how are you feeling? Like, are you still just like, no, I'm right? Or are you just like giving into like thinking maybe there is something wrong with you?

• 19:25Speaker 05

  I always felt. Like I didn't belong with them, but I don't know that I felt right or wrong about it. I just knew.

• 19:32Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 19:33Speaker 05

  So I didn't even attach like a judgment to it. I was like, I just feel, I kind of just feel like they can say what they want and I can say what I, I didn't argue except with my dad, like, uh, you know, it, this went on from four to 10, so it went on like six years. And at the end of it, if I even opened my mouth, he would come flying at me across, you know, he would just like, be like, that's it. And come, he couldn't tolerate it.

• 19:58Bunnie XO?

  I wonder if you were triggering something of fear in him.

• 20:01Speaker 05

  Yes, yeah.

• 20:01Bunnie XO?

  Maybe you were sent there to, for him.

• 20:04Speaker 05

  I, I think so because after he passed, which my son hates when I tell the story because he's like, I don't remember. And I'm like, cause he was a very psychic child, my Jason, but when my dad died, okay, in 2006, uh, at the age 80 something, whatever, older, and he passed, he came to my son. I did not get the phone call because they're in Toronto. And we're here, so they were waiting for us to be awake after Christmas. And my son told me before I got the call, he came downstairs and he said, you know that grandpa, they only met him once. And he goes, you know that grandpa with the dogs? It was poodles. And I said, yeah. And he goes, he's in my room.

• 20:42Speaker 05

  And he said, there is a God.

• 20:44Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 20:45Speaker 05

  So he came through my son, which was tremendous for me and a nice acknowledgement.

• 20:49Bunnie XO?

  Confirmation.

• 20:50Speaker 05

  Confirmation. Yeah. Because when they cross out of the physical, um, we do go to different levels. So according to your belief system, like if you really want to go somewhere that isn't with God, you can go there. I mean, you're never stuck anywhere. You can kind of transition through different levels as you choose. Um, it's your belief system and he, obviously he crossed over to a dimension. I don't believe we go to heavens. A lot of the religions say you're here and then in heaven.

• 21:17Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 21:18Speaker 05

  That's not my understanding of it at all. So we go through different levels, kind of like school, but I don't want to say school, but different dimensions.

• 21:26Bunnie XO?

  Do you feel, do you get to pick them or is it just how you've lived your life that lifetime and how you gave back and what you did? That picks the level that you get to go to next?

• 21:37Speaker 05

  I, I'm not sure. You know, I can't really answer that because, um, When my son passed, I noticed the work that he was doing was work. He is working on the other side and I had never seen that, but he shows up in a position of helping from the other side. So he went right into kind of helping people, which was an interesting concept because some people I see that are in school, other people are just having fun. Some people are watching their families. Like when my dad passed, he was around me for 15 years. Like I could pick him up like that. You know, he was there.

• 22:13Bunnie XO?

  He's like, I'm here to help you because I put you through so much shit.

• 22:16Speaker 05

  He was watching. He was actually watching like what I was doing. I felt, I felt. And then suddenly the energy was gone. So they will transition and when they either, and again, time is much different. Time is meant to keep us stuck here. We are kind of, I feel, I don't know that we all choose to come here. I have to say that. I really don't believe that.

• 22:38Bunnie XO?

  I would love to hear your theory on that because I always feel like I have always helped, but I don't know enough and I'm always open to learning.

• 22:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 22:45Bunnie XO?

  I have always felt like I, maybe it's my way of coping with my trauma, but I always feel like I picked my parents and I needed to learn these lessons in this life. And that's what has made me the woman that I am today.

• 22:57Speaker 05

  Absolutely. I agree with that part of it.

• 23:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:02Speaker 05

  When I look at that though, they tell us that and I don't know that I hear that. Sometimes I do hear souls are sent here to heal and to teach. I don't think that I'm one of those because I just refuse to say I came here.

• 23:16Bunnie XO?

  She's like, I am not of this world.

• 23:18Speaker 05

  I am not. I did not. And, but I do know they do. There are healers and teachers that come down as people to maneuver around people, right?

• 23:26Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 23:27Speaker 05

  But I feel, I know that kids can leave before the age of four if they don't want to continue on this incarnation. So we have from birth to four. And if you really don't want to be here, I know the soul can leave easily. Obviously they're kids, right? They could do anything.

• 23:42Bunnie XO?

  I feel like children are so much more in tune with the other side.

• 23:45Speaker 05

  Oh, they are. They live more on the other side. They see they, they have a whole thing and then we're taught it's not real. Because if you knew it was real, you'd be like, why am I here? Right. You'd be like, why am I here? Yeah. And as you get older, more of your people are over there than here. You know, I mean, like when you get into your seventies, most of your friends or parents and siblings have crossed. So I actually believe some of us are, I believe the reincarnation cycle was hijacked, to tell you the truth. Wow. So I believe some of us were forced into coming back here because when we crossed out, we went where we thought, but I think they kind of steered us down the wrong path.

• 24:30Speaker 05

  Like a kind of spiritual warfare? Yes, absolutely. I am not convinced we're all supposed to be here. And a lot of new age, I know you hear it all the time. It drives me crazy. Yeah. They say you can co-create. I'm like, tell the people in Ethiopia that they can create whatever life they want, because they cannot, because the whole country is gridded. Right. And the energy is blocked and stolen, so they cannot. Neither can Haiti, neither can wherever. That makes sense. Yeah, they can't. So stop saying that. Is it what, only first world countries that we can do it? Yeah. So see, that's profiteering off of spiritual. So they haven't had enough. Hmm. I, I don't know. People just think it's nice to believe in. I think it depends on the person.

• 25:11Speaker 05

  And I think sometimes we jump into something. I'll tell you, I had a experience once with somebody who passed away of unexpectedly and of an overdose and their sibling, when I saw the sibling pregnant, I knew it was their, I knew it was that person coming back, because I dreamt it, right? And I thought, oh my goodness. And all the way along in the pregnancy, I was like, they were deciding whether they were going to come back in because they wanted to complete the connection, but had OD'd, so they left early and then tried to come back in, but chose not to be born. So that was a stillbirth. Oh, no. And I saw the whole thing. I saw the soul making that decision, like, you know, in the way of this person as a person. Like, wow.

• 25:56Speaker 05

  I saw it and I knew what was going to happen. I did not tell the person, but when it happened. I was like, yeah, I thought that was gonna happen. So it's interesting, that soul made a decision first to come in and be pregnant, maybe to clear the karma with the sibling, you see, and just live in the tummy and then leave. So I'm not quite sure how it works, really.

• 26:14Bunnie XO?

  That's wild. That's really crazy. I definitely wanna um, look into that more. Um, so circling back to your childhood.

• 26:21Speaker 05

  She keeps trying to go there.

• 26:22Bunnie XO?

  No, I know, I'm like, let's talk about it, baby. So circling back to your childhood, you're growing up in this house. Take me on this journey. Like, are you still seeing visions? Do you, as a child, do you start talking to them? Do you?

• 26:35Speaker 05

  The way that it works for me is I'm very clear audience, so I hear things and then I just blurt them out.

• 26:40Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 26:40Speaker 05

  So that was annoying again. Hello, blah. Annoying child.

• 26:45Bunnie XO?

  So it's kinda like you had to learn how to wrangle it.

• 26:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, you, and you have to learn to know what it is, because you can say something and think it's gonna be, it, it's a combination of feeling your body and wording, and the wording can come from outside of you, but it comes from inside of you, like, just say this. So when I say it, I get a feel for whether it's my crazy mind, or if it's psychic. I also um, dream things, but not as much anymore. And I used to be what's called, I think they call it a trance channel, meaning I would, in order to connect with people that had passed on, I would step out of my body, so my physical would go to sleep, and they would, they say it means they come into your body, but I was not coherent. Like, many a friend, when I was a teenager, say, you know, you just dropped off for 10 minutes there.

• 27:31Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 27:31Speaker 05

  Like, I wasn't on drugs.

• 27:32Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 27:32Speaker 05

  Contrary to what my family thinks. Um, but I would step out, and I was able to connect through that. And it has to do with the frequency of the body, because it's very hard for them to connect with us, and we have to heighten our energy to get out. So to actually do readings awake, and like, like this, to talk to people, it's kind of athletic with energy. You have to raise your vibration up. So you kind of have to know how to do that, or you get drained, because your energy goes whoop, and then drops.

• 27:59Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 27:59Speaker 05

  So when I was a teenager, I would just, I call it stepping out. I would actually...

• 28:05Speaker 05

  This would shut down like this and I'd step out and I would see them. And that first happened when my best friend passed on a motorcycle. So I was like sixteen, turning seventeen. And he was eighteen and I did not know he passed until I fell asleep for ten minutes and saw him.

• 28:21Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 28:21Speaker 05

  And so my boyfriend at the time said, you just were like acting like you were hugging somebody and top, but you're, you weren't awake. So, and then I woke up and said, oh, my God. And then had to track him down and find out what happened. He came very, very clearly to me. So.

• 28:36Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 28:37Speaker 05

  Yeah. So I, I physically was somewhere else or on the, it's the astral level, actually.

• 28:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 28:41Speaker 05

  It's out of your body and it's right here.

• 28:44Bunnie XO?

  Is it ever a scary feeling to be out of your body? Or does it always feel peaceful?

• 28:48Speaker 05

  Oh, it doesn't feel peaceful. No.

• 28:50Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 28:51Speaker 05

  No, no, no. I mean, I don't know about then because I can't remember.

• 28:55Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 28:55Speaker 05

  I had a lot of anxiety, but when I'm out of my body, I kind of, I call it like an airplane grounding back in. And sometimes it's very bumpy. You jolt in and other times it's smoother. But I call it grounding in like an airplane.

• 29:11Bunnie XO?

  Do you ever get scared that like your soul will get snatched while you're out of your body? How do you protect yourself?

• 29:16Speaker 05

  I don't know. Um, yeah, no, I mean.

• 29:18Bunnie XO?

  I'm like fascinated. Yeah. I didn't like teach me.

• 29:21Speaker 05

  They tell you how to protect yourself. I actually pray to God, so I ask in the name of Jesus to protect me.

• 29:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:27Speaker 05

  I wear crystals, like I have all my jewelry is kind of crystal to align it so that they can't get into my head. Uh, you know, uh, I kind of feel like I, I pray, I go in nature. That's the quickest way I find. So I find grass and trees and usually a dirt trail. And I start walking up it. I try to eat right. I don't get high or drunk because that will, because you won't even care.

• 29:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:53Speaker 05

  So I don't do those, but I don't know that you can protect yourself if it's going to happen to you.

• 30:00Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 30:00Speaker 05

  I don't know that you can. I'm not sure.

• 30:03Bunnie XO?

  I have always, ever since I was a little girl, and I've said this on multiple podcasts, um, seen spirits and I've dreams. I've had people who have crossed over that have come to me that I, I didn't even know they had crossed over.

• 30:15Speaker 05

  So why do you fight it?

• 30:17Bunnie XO?

  I just, um, it's not that I fight it because I've actually made peace with it now. So it doesn't bother me as much. But I don't know if I, I never want to steer anybody the wrong way. And I don't know if I am the right vessel for like anything other than myself. I've been needing new glasses forever and it's just one of those things I keep putting off. So I finally went on Zenni to pick out a new pair. I'm going with these black rectangle glasses that are really similar to the ones I already wear because, listen, I know what I like. They're classic, they go with everything and I'm excited to get them. Zenni has frames starting from under $30 and I love that you can use their virtual try-on to see what different frames look like before you order.

• 30:59Bunnie XO?

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• 31:36Speaker 06

  Attention all new and existing members of the W D N C. I'm Melanie Sanders and this is the We Do Not Care Club Podcast. We got to midlife and realized we just simply do not care much anymore. Now we gotta help each other make sense of hot flashes, dry coochie, chin hair, trifling families, brain fog and bat wings. We are not alone and we will be heard. So come join the W D N C. Follow and listen to the We Do Not Care Club Podcast with Melanie Sanders wherever you get your podcasts.

• 32:08Speaker 05

  Perfect. For now, that's perfect. Exactly. Okay, so first of all, when you read energy, you are just giving information like your phone, your phone. The phone doesn't judge me or you. If I'm calling you and I scream at you, the phone is not like, oh, I shouldn't have dialed their number. The phone does not know. So we are a wire. That's it. So if you have something to say to somebody, say it to them.

• 32:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:33Speaker 05

  And just say, I'm giving you this. Do what you want with it.

• 32:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:35Speaker 05

  Cause you hold, I, I don't care about being right, or if, I mean, people can call me crazy. I had one woman insist I was wrong. I'm like, fine. I, I do not care. Um, you, that's fine. But I give the information if I get it and I don't judge it anymore. When I was younger, I might've talked around it because I'm like, who says some of this stuff?

• 32:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:57Speaker 05

  Crazy. But, um, yeah, no, you, if you get it, give it because they're coming to you because you can hear them.

• 33:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 33:04Speaker 05

  So it's like driving to Vegas. You know how dark that road is at night? And if you see a light and your car breaks down, you're gonna go to that house. Now, what if they don't help you?

• 33:13Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 33:14Speaker 05

  So they, they're, they want you to go there. That's why they're coming to you. They want you to do it. And it's part, it is part of what I think you're here to do if you can do it. So whether you like it or not, like, none of us grow up and do, I, I did not, I've tried to get out of this. I don't, it's not, no.

• 33:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. You're like, do you feel like it's, it's almost like a, um, I don't wanna say prison sentence, cause that sounds terrible, but it's almost like exhausting.

• 33:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, it, it bugs the living shit out of me. And people yell at me, you know how they get at you online?

• 33:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 33:47Speaker 05

  Like a bunch of bitches. Anyway, no offense to the good ones. Troll ass bitches. But, um, welcome to.

• 33:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's what they are.

• 33:56Speaker 05

  But they say, oh, how do you, how come you get mad when people, you know, ask you for a reading? I'm like, I had people in my house from the age of 20 up until COVID.

• 34:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 34:05Speaker 05

  Like my entire life.

• 34:06Bunnie XO?

  Has been just reading.

• 34:07Speaker 05

  Yeah. And they came to me physically, like, like they come to your studio. They came and sat down. My kids grew up, I mean, decades.

• 34:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 34:14Speaker 05

  Four decades. Like, stop.

• 34:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 34:17Speaker 05

  You know, and I'm, I mean, I'm trying to talk on a live show about something, let's say, and they're like, do you do a reading? I'm like, it.

• 34:26Speaker 05

  No, go away.

• 34:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you're like, that's the last thing I want to do. Just let me do my thing.

• 34:30Speaker 05

  It's like if you're a hairdresser and you go to eat lunch and then somebody's like, could you just cut my? Shut the.

• 34:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you're like, leave me alone. Yeah, I totally get that.

• 34:38Speaker 05

  So it's like that. And other times I don't want to see things. So there's certain things I don't want to see. Um, and that again comes and it it comes with the death of my son and when my stepson passed, I saw both of those things. And people mistake it. They say you're not supposed to speak about something like that, but I actually saw it. And here's what I learned from telling both stepson and son that they were going to pass. I didn't know which one of my sons. So I told both of my sons to hope that one of them listened. But here's what I learned. A soul is going to do what they're going to do anyway. And you can tell them, is that going to stop them? Now that comes into, we have no control over our lives.

• 35:21Speaker 05

  So there's exit points in life and I do know that we have three or four, like my son Keith, he had several different exit points. What was so interesting, and this comes to your reading point, about 15 years before he passed, I went to an astrologer friend of mine to ask business stuff for my husband, actually. And he was looking at my chart and my husband's like, he kind of will look at them together. And he says, he says a bunch of stuff and he's like, um, you're going to have a child that dies. And I said, right out of his mouth, like almost the way I do it. And I said, oh no, you mean my stepson. So he said, no, one of yours. Now I never forgot it. I told John, my husband at the time. I told him this and the minute our son passed, this astrologer's name came right out of our mouths.

• 36:06Speaker 05

  Like we were like, damn. But I started to get the information about two months before. So it happens for me like that. And I blurted out like he blurted it out. He was that kind of a psychic, like it it happened to me. So never ask somebody something you don't want an answer for, because you may get an answer. You don't, I was not expecting that. I asked about business and his psychic side took right over, even though he was an astrologer, you see? He immediately, blah.

• 36:31Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 36:31Speaker 05

  And it was horrifying. And then when my kids turned eighteen, I was like, they're eighteen, I'm good. You know, when they're eighteen, you think you're good.

• 36:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 36:37Speaker 05

  Not so much. Um, it, it can happen. And I also remember my husband saying, God wouldn't do that to me again, because it was his stepson who passed, who was nine months younger than me. So my husband had two grown kids when I met him. So my stepson and stepdaughter are, I'm right in the middle of them.

• 36:55Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 36:56Speaker 05

  And I was good friends with my stepson. And I told my husband now, I said, it's not God who does that. We're not living on God's planet down here. That is not who is here.

• 37:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 37:05Speaker 05

  And souls have their own journey and paths, so they will leave when they want, regardless of what we're told in society.

• 37:11Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 37:11Speaker 05

  You know, it, it, it has nothing to do with that. So even if there is a murder, uh, you know, something along those lines, I don't know why that is happening, because if I can't remember killing you and you kill me, I'm just gonna come back and kill you again. Hello, I'm coming after you again. See, and I will never stop it. So

• 37:30Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 37:31Speaker 05

  as a soul, I'm coming back after you.

• 37:34Bunnie XO?

  Sloan's like, I got a vendetta. I'm coming back.

• 37:36Speaker 05

  I'm living as a Scorpio now.

• 37:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 37:39Speaker 05

  I'm coming after you. So I don't know that we even understand karma, except to say that it is balance. It is not vengeance.

• 37:47Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 37:48Speaker 05

  So people often say, you know, this one hit me, it's karma, I'm gonna do this to them. No, it's balance. So maybe I need to learn balance. Maybe last life, I didn't want children. And so this life, my son came to me, who I wanted desperately, and then he left. So maybe now I know that I'm balanced in that feeling.

• 38:07Bunnie XO?

  Do you believe in past life regressions?

• 38:09Speaker 05

  Oh, a hundred percent. Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. I've seen past lives. Yeah.

• 38:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 38:13Speaker 05

  Oh, I've seen them. Yeah.

• 38:14Bunnie XO?

  I always think I was like some regal queen, but then I also think I was like some fucking bad bitch warrior.

• 38:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, you probably

• 38:20Bunnie XO?

  Because I'm a fighter, dude.

• 38:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, through generations.

• 38:23Bunnie XO?

  You know?

• 38:23Speaker 05

  Yeah. Well, you have class. And

• 38:25Bunnie XO?

  Now. Yeah. It took a lot, long time to find it.

• 38:28Speaker 05

  Well, you know, you would, but you would be different. Your soul would be the same. So you would be in positions of power throughout your life to elevate other people, which is what you're doing here. You use a play on words, calling it dumb blonde, because this stupid society thinks you're dumb. Hello, not dumb.

• 38:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 38:43Speaker 05

  You know, like anything but.

• 38:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 38:45Speaker 05

  And so you using the play to educate people. It's in your face smack deal.

• 38:49Bunnie XO?

  Hmm. Oh, yeah. No, I'm very tongue in cheek with everything I do. I'm gonna say it before you can.

• 38:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's, oh, my God. Yeah. I will out myself on everything. So you can't get, you can't get me. You can't blackmail me. You owe nothing over me.

• 39:01Bunnie XO?

  You said something in a podcast that I watched last night on the plane. You said, be real. Say what you want and get it out before anybody can ever have anything on you. And I was just like, that, that's how I've lived my life.

• 39:14Speaker 05

  Absolutely.

• 39:15Bunnie XO?

  I love that you preach that to everybody.

• 39:17Speaker 05

  I, I do. It, it was hard. Now my husband is going to hate me for saying this. Technically ex-husband, but we all know John, so I'm gonna shout him out.

• 39:25Bunnie XO?

  Shout out, John.

• 39:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, there you go. My man. Anyway, I met him in a strip club. Okay, so.

• 39:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, we're going back to your childhood.

• 39:33Speaker 05

  I met him. I met him there and he did not want me saying that out loud. Now I'm like stripper, stripper, stripper. And so, yeah, it was funny because people carry their own shame about stuff and I'm like, whatever people's preconceived notions are, it's, they're gonna have, you know that from the internet. They call.

• 39:53Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 39:54Speaker 05

  She's an alien with, with, you know, a horn on the back of her head. What?

• 39:59Bunnie XO?

  They make up the wild. I fight them all the time. I'm like, fuck you, fuck you and fuck you. Yeah, like I, I shut it down all the time.

• 40:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's, you know, I'll tell you something. I have a good message. My, my son Keith that passed, when we started my channel, I got so mad at this woman. She was trolling me. I'm like, I, I'm gonna cross search her name. I'm gonna find.

• 40:19Bunnie XO?

  You or me. I swear, I'm the same. I'm gonna find your grandma. I'm gonna find your aunts, uncles, your whole bloodline. I'm finding them.

• 40:26Speaker 05

  I'm find your car. I'm gonna flatten your tires. I'm gonna fuck you up. So my son Keith, he's sitting there and he was so, he's a scor-, he was a Scorpio moon. Sagittarius Scorpio moon. And he's sitting there and he's like.

• 40:36Bunnie XO?

  Oh, wow. That's emotional. Sagittarius sun, Scorpio moon.

• 40:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, and a Leo rising. So he also had swagger. Um, and he was very cute. And he said to me, Mom, do you think Kobe worries about trolls? I'll never forget it. And I'm like, I don't know. I want this woman's number. Cause I can't see straight, cause I'm so immature.

• 40:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 40:54Speaker 05

  And he's like, no. Kobe laughs all the way to the bank. Now, stop looking for this woman and go film some more. So I always remember what he said, what would Kobe do?

• 41:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, so that's what I say, but he had to teach me that and he, it was in 2018. So I was like, okay, I'll listen to you.

• 41:10Bunnie XO?

  We love Keith.

• 41:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, he was so cute and um.

• 41:13Bunnie XO?

  My husband's a Sagittarius.

• 41:14Speaker 05

  Yes, yes.

• 41:15Bunnie XO?

  Sagittarius.

• 41:16Speaker 05

  I love, I love Sagis. Yeah, they're fun. They're fun and they can be, oh my God, they can foot in mouth and say shit and you're like, did, did, did you just say that?

• 41:25Bunnie XO?

  Oh yeah, sometimes I have to tell my husband, I'm like, what the fuck? Stop it. Like, what are you doing? But he's so sweet and just, they are very diplomatic.

• 41:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, they're, they want to have fun, so they don't want to hurt you and make you upset.

• 41:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:39Speaker 05

  So that you don't have fun because they want to continue to have fun.

• 41:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:42Speaker 05

  And they also.

• 41:44Bunnie XO?

  Very childlike, almost.

• 41:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, Sagittarius is, it's not of the earth. Sagittarius is half man, half horse. So they live on the earth as a different species. They don't feel like us, number one, okay, people without Sag. And so they live down here and they shoot for what's unknown. So they're always contemplating it. That is what they do. Their whole thing is about the contemplation of why are we here?

• 42:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 42:11Speaker 05

  So even if they're the goofiest, stupidest, childish, you know, weed smoking, speaking about my Keith at the time, whatever they're doing.

• 42:20Bunnie XO?

  Sounds like my husband.

• 42:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:24Speaker 05

  They're still deeply soulful and thoughtful about where we are and why we are here.

• 42:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Oh, he's so, my husband's so deep. Sometimes I'm like, calm down, dude. I have to like bring him out of it, you know? Like, calm down. Yeah, it's not the time right now. So let's circle back. So you left home at 14. And I heard you say that when you left home at 14, it was, it was life changing for you. And you had been through a lot when you left home. Can you take me on that journey when you finally decided to leave home?

• 42:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was the greatest thing. I know it pissed my family off, so I'm sorry.

• 42:58Bunnie XO?

  Sorry, not sorry.

• 42:58Speaker 05

  Sorry, not sorry. But yeah, I packed my little bag and I wore like. Pants under my pants, so baggy pants over my skinny pants and sweatshirts because it was freezing. It was October in Toronto, actually up north. And I went to school and my friend's sister drove me to the mall, to the bus station. And then I just got on a bus and went to Toronto, where I had been. We had moved up north. And of course, nobody would take me in. You know how that is. Yeah, they're like, no. Wayward child off the street. And now, absolutely not. So I ended up in the flop houses. And you're gonna love this, maybe not, but they called them flop houses. Somebody corrected me and said they call them

• 43:40Speaker 05

  something else now. But where all the drug people go, and I'm not gonna lie, I liked LSD, go ahead, you know, I love that drug. But I ended up in houses with like, I'll say the needle people, the people that use needles. And I was so OCD that I couldn't stand it when they would, I did not do that. But when they would shoot up, they just leave the needles in the cigarette ashtrays on the floor. So I, like the good OCD girl, would pick everything up and wash them. And I, that, we didn't know about AIDS exactly yet at that time, but it was that year that it was, it was like in 81, it broke. And I was already doing that, but I couldn't stand that they were gonna put it back

• 44:19Speaker 05

  in their arm from the ashtray. That drove me nuts. Like even, I was like, no. And I looked in the paper for a job. So I was always looking in the paper. And there was this club, and it was called the Fillmore's West, not East. And the owner, he was looking for cocktail waitresses. This is before Tracy Lourdes, okay? So nobody was checking ID, no one cared. Okay? Nobody cared. And so I went and met with them, and I had no money to buy a little, he wanted us in a bathing suit with little heels. I had no money. So he gave me a hundred bucks back then, and I could have just bailed, but I didn't. And I went and bought it at Capizios. You remember that store? It's a dance store. So I went and bought this little shiny, gold shiny, little bathing suit and these little shoes. And I went and I started waitressing. And then I met

• 45:03Speaker 05

  one of the strippers, and she was like, I need a girl. We're going to Fort Erie for the weekend. She goes, you want to do it? I'm like, not really. I don't think so. I'd have been like, how much? Yeah, yeah. Well, then she says, she says, she goes, well, I have some clothes for you. And I'm like, not really. She goes, well, it's, whatever she said. And I'm like, okay, I'll go. The most terrifying thing, because it was horseshoe tables. Back in the day. Yeah. With a whole bunch of people and you're completely naked. Like you've gone on stage and I was like, I did not understand what they were looking at. I was that immature. Like I knew I had a body and I know that people look, but I was like, I don't. How old, you were fourteen? Fourteen. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, fourteen.

• 45:46Speaker 05

  It was a little bit, yeah, it was a little bit horrifying. And then when I. Shame on those men, though. Well, I don't think they, well, I mean, I looked young, but, but maybe they thought I was, I don't know what they thought. They know. Assholes. Those men know. Yeah, they probably knew I was, and I was terrified. I was traumatized and terrified. My friend was like doing all kinds of things up there and I was like, I'm not making those faces. Like, I'm not gonna go. Were you still a virgin? No. Okay. No, no, thank God. No, I knew people, but I mean, you're fourteen, what are you getting out of it, really? Yeah. You know, it takes till you're probably twenty to understand what you should do, or at least I felt. Sorry for such a personal question. Yeah, no. Trying to see where you were at. Oh, no, no, I lost my virginity young.

• 46:28Speaker 05

  I learned at age ten that men would pay for that kind of thing. Like if you take your shorts down, always the stripping, they'll give you money. So how old were you when you lost your virginity? Twelve. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. That is so young. No, I'm not, that's no judgment, that's coming from a place of love. We have a sixteen year old, I would, my heart would break, you know? Twelve, it was a kid my age, so like, yeah, was not an adult. Okay. Person. Right. Um, yeah, young little boyfriend, so I'm like, okay, I'll try that. Oh, my goodness. I don't get it. Wow. I was like, no, really, I was like, I don't, it took me years. And then when I had my kids, I was like, I get it. So for me, it was about having my children. Yeah. That was important, the other stuff I could do without. Yeah. It's never been about the sex for me. Yeah.

• 47:12Speaker 05

  You know, after the stripping life, I was like, I hate everybody. Yeah. Don't try to kiss me. So you said at a young age, you learned that men would pay for things? Did you have men paying you? Oh, yeah, neighbor men, yeah. Really? Yeah, I would wear little shorts out and stuff and they'd call you over and, you know, five bucks if you show me what's in your shorts. So I did that, I've got to say I did it, but I was ten and I knew better. Did I, did I not? You're a child, that's not your, that's not your responsibility to hold though. Yeah. Those men that are disgusting. And you'll love this, it was the Girl Scout troop's father, who else would it be? I just got goosebumps. Yeah. I will fucking kill a motherfucker, dude. Like I'm laughing.

• 47:51Bunnie XO?

  Men just fucking piss me off.

• 47:53Speaker 05

  Yeah. No, they're really weird, but our whole society.

• 47:56Bunnie XO?

  They are, yeah, weird as putting it nicely.

• 47:58Speaker 05

  Well, I look at it and I'm like, you're married, you have your own kids. Looking back at it now, you know, my abuse as a child came from both. My mother was abusive sexually as well. So when I talk about that, a lot of people are very uncomfortable with it. Even my husband would be like, well, maybe she just didn't know what she was doing. I'm like, come on.

• 48:19Bunnie XO?

  What would she do?

• 48:20Speaker 05

  She would check my crotch when I came in the door. So she would put her hands down my pants and check. Yeah, yeah.

• 48:28Bunnie XO?

  And like put her fingers in you?

• 48:29Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. That's what I lived with, that kind of stuff. Yeah. So, and when you tell people, they're like, I know it, yeah. I know. No, it would, so you run. I mean, I never did that with my kids. I was always knocking.

• 48:42Bunnie XO?

  People don't do, people don't do, I won't even, Bailey, I don't even look at her when she showers at me.

• 48:48Speaker 05

  No.

• 48:48Bunnie XO?

  That was, she not, that woman knew what she was doing.

• 48:50Speaker 05

  Oh, she knew.

• 48:50Bunnie XO?

  She was trying, you know what it was? She was trying to have power over you.

• 48:54Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. She would do stuff like cut all my hair off and then tell my dad I did it. No, I didn't.

• 49:00Bunnie XO?

  Do you think that's why you have short hair to this day?

• 49:02Speaker 05

  I wonder. Cause I've had it long, like yours, and then I'll cut it short. Right now, I don't want to go through the grow out stage.

• 49:09Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no, it's the worst.

• 49:10Speaker 05

  There's that. I don't know how I'm going to appear on camera like.

• 49:13Bunnie XO?

  Well, luckily there's like wigs and extensions and everything.

• 49:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, you could do that when it gets to about here. I may try to grow it out, but I have a little face.

• 49:21Bunnie XO?

  I love your short hair though. Your, your look is a vibe and I would told you when you came in here.

• 49:24Speaker 05

  Sixties vibe. Yeah, sixties.

• 49:26Bunnie XO?

  But I love it. It's like very twiggy.

• 49:28Speaker 05

  Yes. Yeah. I like that kind of thing.

• 49:30Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 49:30Speaker 05

  I think, I mean, when my mom cut my hair, it was like I had long hair and she would just cut like, you know, so you look like an insane kid that your brother cut your hair off by accident.

• 49:41Bunnie XO?

  She's just jealous of you.

• 49:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 49:43Bunnie XO?

  I had a horrendous stepmother too. She didn't do the things to me that yours did, but she beat me and emotionally, physically.

• 49:48Speaker 05

  That's the same. She probably wanted to do something else and couldn't, you know, take you down that way.

• 49:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 49:53Speaker 05

  Horrific, horrific. Left a huge scar. Yeah. It, it was interesting because.

• 50:01Speaker 05

  That has to be a mental illness, though, like you.

• 50:03Bunnie XO?

  For sure.

• 50:04Speaker 05

  You you just can't.

• 50:05Bunnie XO?

  Mean to any sort of child.

• 50:08Speaker 05

  On a continuum.

• 50:09Bunnie XO?

  Is fucking wrong with you. Yeah, I could never, no.

• 50:13Speaker 05

  Your face is hilarious.

• 50:14Bunnie XO?

  No, I love you.

• 50:15Speaker 05

  Oh, my god.

• 50:16Bunnie XO?

  No, I'm the same way. When people talk about my trauma, I get like, I really giddy and like unnervously laugh. It's just, it's a trauma response.

• 50:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, oh, absolutely.

• 50:24Bunnie XO?

  But it's just, you cannot be mean to children. If they're, if you're mean to children, you are a fucking just piece of shit evil human being.

• 50:32Speaker 05

  You're a weirdo, yeah.

• 50:33Bunnie XO?

  Children are the most innocent things on the, on the earth.

• 50:36Speaker 05

  They, they don't have, you don't have any recourse really as a child. I mean, my kids, my kids had a lot more recourse. Like, my Keithy, if you, if you told him, no, you couldn't go out, he would turn around and say, I'm gonna tell people you did, you Michael Jackson me at that time. And I'd be like, don't.

• 50:52Bunnie XO?

  He'd laugh his ass off. Don't do that.

• 50:54Speaker 05

  He was like ten and I said, what did you just say? And he'd go, ha, ha, ha, then, you know, so the kids got more brash as they got older. But for my generation, because keep in mind, I'm almost sixty, which we know, but which I speak ad nauseam because I can't believe I'm here. Uh, it, it's very humbling to grow old, like.

• 51:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 51:12Speaker 05

  Everything you thought you were when you're young and it wouldn't go away, it's gone. Whatever it is, you look in the mirror and you're like, who is that?

• 51:18Bunnie XO?

  No, I agree.

• 51:19Speaker 05

  Different person, you know, just so different. But for me, it was very hard with my mother. And I remember running away at ten, running away at eleven, running away at twelve, my dad would find me. Obviously, I didn't get very far. I mean, who are we kidding? And, um, the other thing that I learned from my childhood was to be a distance runner. So when they would start, whatever it was they were talking about in the home, I would leave when I was five, put on sneakers and go out the door. Because back then, we all took the subways in Toronto, we all took the buses. That wasn't abusive, like all the little kids went in little groups. And it wasn't like today where you're like, get off the subway.

• 51:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 51:55Speaker 05

  You'll be kidnapped.

• 51:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 51:57Speaker 05

  And we drop our kids everywhere and micromanage. It was not like that. And I wasn't the only kid out, you know, all my friends, you know. And we lived in a good neighborhood in Toronto, uh, shout out to Lawrence Park. And we lived there, but I became a cross-country runner to get away from it. So I always had practice and I just have used that to cope my whole life and it's been the biggest blessing. I would advise people with anxiety and trauma, exercise, it is. A blessing like it comes first in my life, period.

• 52:26Bunnie XO?

  I preach that all the time. Whenever I was going through, whenever I had just gotten out of a severely abusive relationship and I first got with Jay. My body was in fight or flight. I didn't know what was going on at the time. This was right before I started hitting my spiritual journey. And I would wake up out of a dead sleep at six o'clock in the morning, throw my shoes on and go jog. We'd be on tour and I would jog around the hotel. That we were in like anywhere we would go. If I started having a panic attack, I would just go jogging. Like it really does reset the mind.

• 52:55Speaker 05

  It saves your life. Yeah. Saves your life. Did you ever take the, I, I took Klonopin for a while. Did you?

• 53:00Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I was a Xanax addict. I didn't do Klonopin, but you give me a little Xanny Bonaduce and I would be in heaven.

• 53:07Speaker 05

  I did the Klonopin. Yeah, I was so bad. I was having like two hundred panic attacks a day and I was always in the emergency room and I thought people were poisoning my kids.

• 53:16Bunnie XO?

  Me too. I always went to the emergency room.

• 53:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'd run straight there like they're gonna help you.

• 53:19Bunnie XO?

  Me too.

• 53:20Speaker 05

  They'll lock your ass up.

• 53:21Bunnie XO?

  They give you Xanax.

• 53:22Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 53:22Bunnie XO?

  And fucking Klonopin. I went so much, the doctor told me, he was like, he didn't call me Bunny, but he said Alyssa, cause that's my real name. He said, Alyssa. You can't keep coming in here. He's like, if you're not gonna take the Xanax, do not come back in here.

• 53:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, cause you're not dying.

• 53:38Bunnie XO?

  Right. Yeah, exactly.

• 53:39Speaker 05

  Stop it.

• 53:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 53:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, I would be, I would be so crazy that I was actually, and it can be spiritual because in the midst of my panic attack, I was. I'm super psychic. Like I would see any kind of energy around me, anything, good, bad or ugly.

• 53:55Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 53:55Speaker 05

  And that would freak me out.

• 53:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 53:57Speaker 05

  So I would go places and see things like I went to Disneyland with the kids and I would seeing like demonic, and this is true, like my, I think Kethe was like. Three and we were with Tanner and Jason, their little friend. And I was looking around and I got stuck in one of those cars you drive and I'm like, I can't, I would see something coming at me. And it's because I was so open.

• 54:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 54:20Speaker 05

  That they will utilize that if they're a little bit dark to come in and torture you. I'm convinced of it. I'm convinced of it.

• 54:27Bunnie XO?

  You can hear in past podcasts where I, I don't want to keep circling back to me, but it's like the, the shit you're saying is giving me confirmation that I'm not crazy.

• 54:36Speaker 05

  You're not crazy.

• 54:37Bunnie XO?

  How many times have I said that my panic attacks, I would look at people and their faces would look like they're melting.

• 54:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, changing. Cause you're seeing, what you're seeing in the midst of a panic attack.

• 54:46Bunnie XO?

  I can see people's eyes change too.

• 54:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, you're seeing. A lot of people have attachments. Yeah. You're actually seeing that. So call it non-human entities attached. I don't go as far as to say they're all demonic unless I can tell by the shape I see. Right. But people walk around with things on them. That's why addicts can't give their drugs up because they have attachments on them who like the drugs. People don't get that. Addiction is a frequency, not a mindset. It's not a lifelong thing. I know Dr. Drew will yell at me. No, I love that. It just gave me a response. It's not a, it's not a lifelong thing. It's a frequency. Once you shift the frequency, you can remove the addiction. You don't think about it because you don't live in it. Wow. It's family patterning. You may come from a family that has a habitual habit of living at that

• 55:31Speaker 05

  frequency, but that's not, it's not like your gene pool is why, no. Mm hmm. Yeah. I don't believe that. Of course, I go against medical science here, but Same. Yeah. I don't believe, I, I think that everything is, I love eastern medicine. I don't like anything about western medicine. No, it's very damaging. I had my kids, my husband delivered my kids. I did not go to a hospital. Oh my goodness. I took no drugs. I was You're fucking savage. It was savage. Oh, God, because childbirth is barbaric. Yeah. I haven't had children this Lifetime. Because I fucking am so scared of it. Like, it's so barbaric. It, it is, but it was interesting. I I think I might have died during childbirth or something. You could. A lot of, people still do, believe it or not. It's pretty intense. It's a pretty intense thing, but I really enjoyed it.

• 56:16Speaker 05

  Yeah. I, weirdly, I wanted to feel my children. Yeah. I spent so much time numb that I actually wanted to feel them. Mimi has two kids. She's like, no. Don't like that one, do you? Poor Mimi over here is like, I can feel her butt. I can feel her butt cheeks clenched over here. I know. They're like, I remember, I remember saying just before I pushed my first son out, I think I'll go to the mall and look for a pair of shoes. Oh, my gosh. John's like, you're not going anywhere. I'm like, no, really? We can hold this off till later. Like, then I was like, you're into it then. Yeah. That part I was in, uh, yeah. And, uh, both my kids were like nine pounds. So it was Little baby turkeys. Yeah. Little watermelon.

• 56:58Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 56:59Speaker 05

  Twenty two inches long and I was like, it's watermelon. They were it. They were watermelons. Yeah.

• 57:04Bunnie XO?

  Goodness. Just fucking, just fucking She-Ra over there.

• 57:10Speaker 05

  I, that's my OCD. Once my mind sets to it, I'm not changing. I will not change.

• 57:14Bunnie XO?

  I get it. It's circling back to you did this first gig when you were fourteen. Did you jump into full time dancing after that?

• 57:22Speaker 05

  Pretty much. Yeah.

• 57:23Bunnie XO?

  At fourteen?

• 57:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. No one, no one asked for, I mean, I had ID that didn't say I was fourteen. It said I was sixteen, not much better.

• 57:32Bunnie XO?

  So.

• 57:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, still. And in Toronto, the clubs, and I went to the Fillmore's East at that time. So it was the same owner. But I applied there as a dancer, kind of behind his back.

• 57:42Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 57:43Speaker 05

  When he found out I was dancing, he never looked at me or spoke to me again, the owner of that club. Like, he literally shut me down. I guess he didn't expect whatever. And I'm like, well, the money is good.

• 57:55Bunnie XO?

  Well, I feel like men in that industry are such creeps.

• 58:02Bunnie XO?

  Right. So he probably, to you, to you were a waitress, so you were innocent and you were pure. And then when you crossed over, you were just like the rest of them. In his mind, that's

• 58:11Speaker 05

  Totally.

• 58:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 58:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, I had the greatest time at that club, though. It was. It was.

• 58:15Bunnie XO?

  I loved dancing.

• 58:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was so fun and but, but I also was shocked. Some of my friends would get pregnant and they would make more money pregnant and that freaked me the hell. Yeah, that freaked me out. There was weird shit that would go on in the booths. This is before, this is before girls had to pay to work in a club. I quit when I was twenty three because I'm not going to pay to work in a club. Like, it's work. Why am I paying you?

• 58:42Bunnie XO?

  Like the house fee.

• 58:43Speaker 05

  Yeah. So we didn't have that when I did it, but we did tip the DJ at the end of the night because he removed. Whatever was wrong with your body with lighting, the importance of lighting.

• 58:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 58:54Speaker 05

  Um, so he would do that, but we didn't have to pay the clubs. Like they were looking for girls. There was such a stigma to it. So we got paid quite a bit, which was really good. And I traveled from here and I went to Florida. So I worked Toronto, California, Florida.

• 59:06Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 59:07Speaker 05

  And it was a shock when I came to LA because the clubs where liquor was served were all, I mean, were, sorry, all nude was just beer. And then full nude was no alcohol, but Toronto, it was like anything goes, like huge clubs. Everybody's drunk and God knows what. And this is where I drew my conclusion that most men were gay. Because they would come into the clubs and they, they had their young men friends with them, but they had their rings on and their. So I saw so much of that. It really jaded me. Like I was a jaded bitch after that.

• 59:41Bunnie XO?

  Trust me, I'm gonna, my next book that's gonna come out after this book, that's my, my life story. I've already decided I'm gonna call it Little Black Book. And it's literally gonna be just everything about dancing and escorting and everything.

• 59:53Speaker 05

  See, I didn't quite do the escorting a couple of times, but I could never show up on time.

• 1:00:01Bunnie XO?

  That's why you're an hour early today?

• 1:00:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm like for Bunny, I'm showing up. I'm like, I, yeah, I know. I'm like, I will be there. Well, first of all, the time said central time. So I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, what if I make a mistake and it's not really central and it's this? So I'm like, I'm checking with, I'm calling John. I'm like, is central time? What is it this time? And he's like, stop calling me.

• 1:00:20Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I'm so sorry. It's a two hour difference.

• 1:00:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, it's two. I have to look it up though, cause my mind will go off running and then you'll be like, where is she? But it was so fun. No, I'm glad I got here. I'd rather be early. But at that time I was so like ADD that I couldn't commit. I could barely get to a club, you know? Like barely get there.

• 1:00:41Bunnie XO?

  All over the place.

• 1:00:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, I was just very much on the go. Like I still carry, I still, I traveled like that. I still travel like that. I'm here, there and everywhere. So it was hard and the dancing was easy because I do one set. And at the time in Toronto, we had to go on stage for three songs, clothes, underwear, nothing, right?

• 1:00:58Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 1:00:58Speaker 05

  And you could table dance. Do you remember when you had to carry the things on your head?

• 1:01:01Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:01:02Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. Okay. We had like boxes. They did not have, you could dance in the horseshoe, but for people at regular tables, just like this. We had like boxes. So you go, the guy'd buy a dance, you go pick a box up and stand there and dance in front of them on the little box in your heels.

• 1:01:16Bunnie XO?

  No, never had to do. I, but I. Everybody always says that I glamorize being in sex work and it's not that I glamorize it. I literally grew up in Vegas.

• 1:01:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:01:26Bunnie XO?

  Where fucking sex work is glamorous.

• 1:01:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's not, it's not, yes.

• 1:01:30Bunnie XO?

  When I was dancing, it was like the Anna Nikols, the fucking Pamela Andersons, the Carmen Electras. Like it was a very taboo thing. It wasn't like it is now. Dancing was very like taboo and you know.

• 1:01:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was for me too. It was like whore. If one more man calls me that, I will come.

• 1:01:50Bunnie XO?

  I get that at least 10 times a day.

• 1:01:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, that triggers the shit out of me.

• 1:01:55Bunnie XO?

  Really? I laugh.

• 1:01:56Speaker 05

  Well, now I'm like, it's Miss Whore to you, but I will scratch your eyes out.

• 1:01:59Bunnie XO?

  I make it into merch. I make money off of it.

• 1:02:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's smart. See, I gotta learn. Cause I get too emotional. I go right into like, okay.

• 1:02:05Bunnie XO?

  No, fuck that.

• 1:02:06Speaker 05

  Now, now.

• 1:02:07Bunnie XO?

  All the hate that gets thrown at you, just turn it into money. That's what I do.

• 1:02:10Speaker 05

  That's what I'm gonna do now. Yeah.

• 1:02:12Bunnie XO?

  Dumb blonde. That's how I started all this.

• 1:02:14Speaker 05

  That's why I was saying.

• 1:02:14Bunnie XO?

  Literally people talking shit about me.

• 1:02:16Speaker 05

  I know because it's like really hair color like, and that's another thing with my mom growing up. She wouldn't get me Barbie. I had to have Skipper.

• 1:02:24Bunnie XO?

  Okay, something happened to her when she was younger. Somebody made her feel less than thou and that was what she wanted to project on you. But my thing is, is like you go your whole entire life till you're 40 years old, not having a child and then you go get one? And you treat her like this?

• 1:02:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was very, um, it was very, yeah, it was difficult because you have nowhere to go. You have no family because once they cut you off, you're cut off in the adopted circle. I will say my cousins in the adopted family were always very kind to me. So I have cousins that are, they'd actually be second cousins because my first cousins are older because my parents were older. Um, but I have a brother that my mom and dad had after they adopted me, but he doesn't talk to me either. So.

• 1:03:04Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:03:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, I didn't even call when my son passed, which was interesting.

• 1:03:09Bunnie XO?

  Sounds like he's like her.

• 1:03:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, I would bet.

• 1:03:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:12Speaker 05

  Without insulting anybody.

• 1:03:14Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:03:14Speaker 05

  Publicly.

• 1:03:16Bunnie XO?

  Moving on, you said that you stopped dancing at 23.

• 1:03:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:03:20Bunnie XO?

  What, had you already met John at that time?

• 1:03:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, I met him in a club.

• 1:03:23Bunnie XO?

  Let's bring John into this because you and John have a long tumultuous.

• 1:03:27Speaker 05

  Like, I don't want to say tumultuous.

• 1:03:28Bunnie XO?

  Long.

• 1:03:29Speaker 05

  Oh, it's tumultuous. Okay, long tumultuous. We're friends. What kind of relationship do you think it is? Do you think it's karmic? Do you think it's soulmates? It it it soulmate. Now, this is interesting because soulmate can be anybody. Yes. Your kid, your your parents, your whoever. It's definitely both. It's 100% karmic because as I always tell the story, but it's true. I was going to Florida to work. I worked in Miami. So I was going to Florida and I came into the club in the valley. It was just a topless club at that time that I was in in the in the valley, a real hood rat club. No offense, but it was. Anyway, I would just, you know, do the dance contests, win and then take off because I'm so ADD. I don't want to stick around. So I was going to give the bartender

• 1:04:12Speaker 05

  money I owed her and I saw John at the bar facing the TV. And when I looked at his back, I kid you not, and I was with my friend, we were, he came in the club with me. I said to my friend, I said, my little gay friend who was coming to Miami with me, I said, see that guy at the bar, I'm going to marry him. Like, I knew it. And I saw one dark haired baby and one strawberry blonde on his back. Oh, my god. So that is actually how I introduced myself to him. And he said, are you high or would you like a drink? He's like, you are right up my alley. Yeah. I got goosebumps. I saw my children. Yeah, I saw them, two boys. And I saw Keith. Keith is a strawberry blonde. Well, he was a towhead at birth, like a real towhead, beautiful hair. Are you a natural blonde?

• 1:04:56Speaker 05

  I'm a dark dishwater blonde. Yeah. And sometimes I'll go red sometime, you know, what it changes. But now I love blonde. So yeah, I'm a short haired dumb blonde. There you go. There you go. Not so dumb blonde. Yeah, exactly. Stupid people. Have to say it. We should put the stupid people show. Yeah. But John was there. So I was on my way. I was also married to somebody else at the time. It's a four month marriage. I made a mistake. And the voice in my head when I was walking down the aisle, talked outside of me and said not to get married. And I ignored it. Yes, I did because we all do that because we know think we know better. So I ignored it.

• 1:05:32Bunnie XO?

  I did that twice.

• 1:05:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, did you? Oh, yeah. Didn't you want to kick yours?

• 1:05:35Bunnie XO?

  Before Jade, third time's a charm, baby.

• 1:05:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. I was his second marriage and he was mine, but six months later I came back and I saw his friend in the bar. He was not there. So I said to his friend, can you call your friend? Because he said he'd be here. Like, I was so literal. It was ridiculous. And he came over and we started dating right then and we weren't really apart like and that was it's this is year thirty seven and we've only been divorced since October. So it was, I know, I moved out.

• 1:06:05Bunnie XO?

  Why are you guys divorced? You guys love each other. I just feel like so much love.

• 1:06:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, I do love him. He was annoying.

• 1:06:13Bunnie XO?

  John, fuckin knock it off. After two babies and a fucking lifetime together, stop being annoying. You delivered the kids too.

• 1:06:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, he did. He did deliver them.

• 1:06:22Bunnie XO?

  Cut John some slack, Sloan.

• 1:06:25Speaker 05

  Oh, he's so funny. Um, he now lives in our house with uh my grandkids, my son, and there's no room for me right now. Like, literally to do my podcast. I'm down the street in my studio slash where I stay, but then I go there to see the grandbabies.

• 1:06:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:39Speaker 05

  And I'm back and forth. I drive a lot, but uh which is good for my ADD.

• 1:06:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:43Speaker 05

  It's excellent. But uh what was so fascinating, when I met John, this is true story, our dads worked together.

• 1:06:50Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:06:51Speaker 05

  And were both nicknamed Slim. Okay.

• 1:06:53Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:06:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, my dad was born in nineteen seventeen, his dad nineteen twelve, but they worked for the same company.

• 1:06:58Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:06:59Speaker 05

  In the same line of work. His mom, her first name was Kathleen. My mom's middle name was Kathleen. Okay, and we're all from Canada and the families. So I know it's karmic.

• 1:07:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:10Speaker 05

  There's no way. Our backgrounds are very similar. What I think happened, because I can't get away from them and I will pick men that are twenty to twenty-five years older and that is a sign of abuse. Like, that does come from that.

• 1:07:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:21Speaker 05

  However, I get their timeframe and their culture. Like, I'm not current. I'm back then. So all the TV shows they grew up with, I get.

• 1:07:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:30Speaker 05

  How they're.

• 1:07:31Bunnie XO?

  Your, your adopted parents were also older.

• 1:07:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. My dad was in his fifties and my mom was forty and then I think turning forty-two when she had my brother. So she got pregnant right away. Pretty much, there's two years between us. So she got pregnant on her own after she adopted, probably because she was not as nervous about never having kids, you know, for her. Right. And it was, obviously it was karma because she felt the need to do it. Right. To begin with, you know, so that was karma. So everything was kind of, my brother was a Scorpio. You know how that goes. Yeah, rough Scorpio. I love Scorpio women, Scorpio men scare me. Yeah, they can be, they're, they're, my husband's a Scorpio rising. He's an Aries Scorpio rising and I'm just like, you never know, they think he's, and he's very psychic.

• 1:08:15Speaker 05

  He's, and see for psychics, and this goes for you too, you're what I call a sensitive. So you don't work professionally as a psychic, it's not your profession, but you operate psychically and not just once or twice, you do everything psychically. So that's a sensitive. So you do your business through your psychic ability. So most successful people do, do that. They just don't counsel others day in and day out because it's not, that's not what they're here to do. They're here to do this business, but use that insight. And John was very much like that. So I really appreciated it. And every, every step of the way, he's been on my journey, like, like on our way here, my bra broke, so he drove me to Victoria's Secrets to get a replacement, like on the way to- Is he here in town with you?

• 1:08:58Speaker 05

  No, he, he wasn't. He's, uh, he's with the grandkids right now. But I'm like, we have to get a bra. He just looks at me, he's like, you have to catch the plane. I'm like, bra please.

• 1:09:08Speaker 05

  So he's good like that. Um, but if I were to say, hopefully he doesn't get mad, but it's, it was the alcohol, like it's a lifelong journey with the alcoholism or the alcohol- Is he an alcoholic? Not, not according to him. Okay, gotcha. But I feel that it's a problem. So if you drink and you talk to me in a certain way, when my kids are older, I'm not going to listen to you. It's a trigger for you. Yeah, yeah. And that's what he needs to understand. Yeah, it's a huge- In an abusive home where alcohol was- He did as well, like he, his dad was very similar to mine.

• 1:09:42Bunnie XO?

  You guys are opposite ends of the spectrum though.

• 1:09:45Speaker 05

  Yes. He was more normal, yeah.

• 1:09:47Bunnie XO?

  Well, that, that and he took, took it on. Whereas you were like, absolutely. That's how I am. Like, I'm sober. I won't do drugs. I won't drink, like, nothing. Like, we planned a drink for Mimi's birthday. It's like a special occasion.

• 1:10:02Speaker 05

  When is Mimi's birthday?

• 1:10:03Bunnie XO?

  The thirtieth, April thirtieth. So, April twenty eighth, we're gonna go out and tie one on. But I have to bring my own bottles. Like, I won't drink liquor at a bar, cuz I don't trust it.

• 1:10:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, Mimi, they spike it.

• 1:10:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I don't trust anything.

• 1:10:16Speaker 05

  Drink out of Bunny's bottles.

• 1:10:17Bunnie XO?

  Literally, yeah. So, you know, it, it was just two different ways of accepting.

• 1:10:23Speaker 05

  Once I had kids too, I think that any kind of drugs or alcohol is off the table for me. Like, I get very serious. So, I'm a mom that way. You know, women are caretakers, so we hopefully don't go down. You know, I didn't want my kids to see that from me.

• 1:10:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:39Speaker 05

  I'm not saying I didn't do drugs. I did as a teenager. But, uh, yeah, so I finally got fed up with it. But I, I'll tell you what I think really happened. I've given it a lot of thought because he drove me batshit crazy a lot and was my best friend. Like, he's the first person I call. So, it, it's, I mean, I just. Yeah, I just don't know what to say. I did from the minute I saw him, even when he's annoying and, you know, I put his name in the freezer. Yeah.

• 1:11:02Speaker 05

  To block him. He knows that secret.

• 1:11:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:04Speaker 05

  He used to throw his name out of the ice cube tray. I used to put it in there, freeze it, so he wouldn't bug me.

• 1:11:09Bunnie XO?

  At least you didn't put him in a jar with nails and a whole bunch of.

• 1:11:11Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no. I wasn't trying to kill him. I was just trying to back him off a bit. Um, none of it works, actually, by the way. They're gonna come forward if they want to, right?

• 1:11:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:21Speaker 05

  But it's, it's funny because we were struggling when I got pregnant with Keith in our relationship. And I wasn't sure I wanted another child. So, I asked Keith to tell me if he wanted to come through. I wasn't opposed to not having the child or not, you know. Honestly, that was my mindset. I wanted a career. I was kind of selfish. I had Jason. I was good with one child, even though I saw two. And I really felt like Keith wanted to be born. So, I had him. And I'm, is the best thing I ever did. He was my tie to learning things. That my first son taught me different things, but my Keith, he taught me really huge lessons. Obviously, he passed, so huge lesson. But when I separated from John and I planned and didn't let on and then suddenly I just left

• 1:12:06Speaker 05

  and he was so mad and yet he would show up for dinner the next night and come get me and I'm like I'm gonna have my independence over here because I was such a young girl too, you know. But after that, it was six months later that Keith passed. So I think Keith's birth was for us to work our karma out. I think we completed that cycle and so we can be really good friends now without having any kind of issues.

• 1:12:29Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:12:30Speaker 05

  You know, I mean, we can have issues, but I have my own place. So bye.

• 1:12:34Bunnie XO?

  So I feel like John's gonna just be in your life.

• 1:12:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, he is. Yeah, he is. And it's, I know you say a lot on your podcast, because me and John, we're talking about this, how people don't know how you're with Jay because it looks like it should not be according to them and their judgmental ass selves.

• 1:12:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:51Speaker 05

  John and I were always like that because he was much older and so people, people would say, is that your, your, if our son, is that your, your grandson and your daughter? It's like, no, I fuck him.

• 1:13:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I swear, people.

• 1:13:06Speaker 05

  People are stupid. No, you know, not, not everybody, but there'd just be random. So we always looked, not when he was younger, but we always looked kind of now when you see us because he's, he's at that different stage in life. He just turned 78. So, yeah. And he still can get you though, if he wants to. So I'll give him that. But it, it's funny, your friends are your friends and it's timeless. Like whoever you love is who you love. There is no path for that.

• 1:13:34Bunnie XO?

  I always tell everybody when I met Jay, it was literally like my soul was like, there you are.

• 1:13:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:13:38Bunnie XO?

  Like I recognized him and I had known him in every other life too. And we have had the craziest relationship, but like that dude is my best friend. He's my John.

• 1:13:47Speaker 05

  He's, yeah, my best friend. Even when I'm freaking mad at him, like I could just put a fork in his forehead, which I tell him, I'm gonna drive there and stick one in your forehead.

• 1:13:56Bunnie XO?

  Oh, don't be hurting John. Damn it.

• 1:13:59Speaker 05

  He'll love that you're saying that. But it's funny because he is my best friend. Like everything that I've ever done, my work, he's always there. Like, and he can bug me while I'm doing my work.

• 1:14:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:10Speaker 05

  But he's still always there to pick, you know, pick it up and. He's really good. Our little granddaughter loves the shit out of him. She looks at him like she knows him from somewhere. It's the strangest. She could, like, she's friends with me, but wherever he goes in the room, she's like, it's so funny.

• 1:14:26Bunnie XO?

  She just loves him.

• 1:14:27Speaker 05

  Yeah. She just sees him and she checks for him, like her little head pops out of your arm looking for him.

• 1:14:32Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:14:32Speaker 05

  It's the cutest.

• 1:14:33Bunnie XO?

  So let's talk about your kids.

• 1:14:35Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:14:35Bunnie XO?

  Because those are your light, and you have said numerous times during this podcast that you came here to be a mom.

• 1:14:41Speaker 05

  I did. I didn't know it, but I did.

• 1:14:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, let's talk about it.

• 1:14:44Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 1:14:44Bunnie XO?

  Take me on that journey.

• 1:14:45Speaker 05

  I loved being pregnant with Jason. Loved it. Like, loved it. I was like, look, I'm, I gained a hundred pounds, ninety-seven pounds. I really did.

• 1:14:53Bunnie XO?

  I bet you were so cute, though, because you're so tiny.

• 1:14:56Speaker 05

  No, no, I was a beast. It's like a wildebeest out there, but my stepson called me a blueberry because I wore blue, blue overalls and I was so huge. Like, I mean, my belly was like, it was hideous, but, I mean, cute. It was Jason. And I just absolute, I loved breastfeeding. I breastfed for two years and, and we, we co-shared the bed. The kids didn't have their own beds, you know, they, they did, but I brought them all in the bed with me and my son does the same, so it's kind of cute. Um, they all co-sleep, co-sleep, I think is what they call it. We just called it sharing the bed. But I just, it was the best experience of my life. It changed me so much. It changed me.

• 1:15:38Speaker 05

  It just, it was incredible. And then you become this, like, even more paranoid OCD person with kids. You're like, you know, you realize you're responsible for them. Maybe he's laughing over there. You're just like, no babysitters. I made all the.

• 1:15:52Bunnie XO?

  That's how she is.

• 1:15:52Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. Family members only. My mother-in-law, my mother-in-law was on set. Do you remember Psychic Friends Network? Back in the day, so we did my client reenactments that the show did. Linda Georgian was a friend of mine and Dion Warwick was the host. That's the only way they put it on in the air. But my mother-in-law'd be in the green room and hold Jason and I'd breastfeed in between takes and come back. Yeah, I dragged her everywhere with me and she did it willingly, so. Yeah, it was the best. And when I got pregnant with Keith, it was, Jason was so lovely. And I was kind of mad when I got pregnant again, because it went so quick that first two and a half years that I'm like, oh no, there's another baby coming. I don't, you know, like now I can't give to

• 1:16:34Speaker 05

  Jason because I'm now going to have two. So I was kind of mad at first, which was weird. And then I got into the pregnancy and both my kids told me their names at ultrasounds at six months. So I wanted to name both of them Matthew. Like I had that in my head. They're going to be Matthew something, right? I don't, I don't know why. I just like the name. So with Jason, I heard Jason. So at six and a half months, I'm like, he's Jason. And then with Keith, I heard Keith. John's like, who do you know named Keith? I'm like, nobody.

• 1:17:04Speaker 05

  You're like Keith Richards. Yeah. It's, he's born on the same day as my son. Oh, wow. December 18th. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Good hit. That's crazy. Yeah, Keith Richards. Keith, he was not like Keith Richards, but he could have been maybe, I guess. But yeah, when I got pregnant with Keith, it was so different because that was an extraordinary thing. When, when I gave birth to Jason, I flew out of my body. I was pushing. They said, push. My mother, birth mother was there and she had a mirror. She's like, look, you can see. Like, I don't care. Yeah. My head's spinning around. And so John was there and he was holding me up and, and I'm push, push,

• 1:17:45Speaker 05

  push. And I'm thinking to myself, this is actually hell. I need to get, I told John, go down the street, get that kid. He used to play baseball. I said, he sells drugs. Find him. Give me the drugs. But it's too late at that point. Anyway, I flew right out of my body. And suddenly I was looking above myself and I saw Jason, who hadn't even come out at age 19, handing John a little girl and she was Hispanic, mixed, and I saw a baby girl and she had wavy hair and she was a little toddler. And he was hand, like handing her over, like it was over my body, but I'm watching it. John's over there and I knew it was his granddaughter. That's our first granddaughter, baby Lila. And I saw her and when I saw her, I went, oh my God, there she is.

• 1:18:29Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh. And she, I described her. John's like, that's weird. It was like the absolute description because it wasn't anybody we thought who it would be with and this, that and the other. And with Keith, I was screaming as my legs were up and I, I was in the jacuzzi. And something told me to get out of the jacuzzi because it didn't feel right. So.

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• 1:20:56Speaker 05

  John's like, "Don't push, don't push." And I'm like... Why? The midwife was on her way. It was Chris, almost to be Christmas. And he's like, the head is purple. I'm like, huh. So meanwhile, the midwife gets there. John actually did this. I gotta give him kudos for this. He pushed Keith's head back inside. Yes, for the love of God. I, yes, no, seriously, I couldn't even feel it though, because I was so like, what's happening? Right. I was just like, you're. But for him to even be able to do that. He did it. He jumped right. That's one thing about him. He's really good at that. Like, if you're having an emergency, he will stop and help you. Yeah. And he doesn't care. You can't leave this man. He has been all up in your hoo-ha, literally. With his. Literally.

• 1:21:39Speaker 05

  Felt like a Mack truck after. But he, Keith was tangled down here and under here. Oh. And John untangled him. Oh. The midwife came in and so turned me and then Keith was delivered, but then he had to go to the hospital. And this isn't even funnier story, but not. So I'm there and I'm, I don't have any clothes that'll fit. So I'm wearing John's pants. And I said, you stay with Jason. I'm getting in the ambulance with Keithy. Keithy went and our doctor was Heidi Fleiss's dad. Oh. Who was doing the movie and in trouble for tax evasion at the time. So they banned him from the hospital. Oh, no. So then the hospital called social services on us for having a home birth and all of that shit. And little Keithy had to stay there one week.

• 1:22:24Speaker 05

  They want to make sure he was okay because he got strangled coming out, but he was fine. Yeah. And he was nine, just over nine pounds. And he was in with the little like drug babies that were the size of your hand. It was, I was like, like little, like not even a pound babies. Hmm. And that blew my mind. But I was still like really angry that my Keithy was in there. So I go to anger first always. I'm like, fuck you. I'll get my kid out of here. Yeah. And so Keithy came home and he was just so cute. And that changed my life too. But when I got pregnant with Keith going back, I'm always going backwards. That's, I have a lot of cancer planets. We do that. We go forward and then we look back. Um, astrology lesson. Yeah. But when I got pregnant with Keith.

• 1:23:05Speaker 05

  That explains why you say that you, um, came here to be a mother because cancer represents mother. Yeah. Like mom. Yeah, I just absolutely. It was, I'm not saying I was the best. I would chase those kids. Ask Jason, like I my oldest son, when he was being bad, I'd park my car, kick my shoes off and tackle him on the street. I was that bitch. That's how I would be as a mom. Like that bitch, you know? People are like, your mom. It's like, you were not going off with that kid. I fucking told you no. Yeah. And, you know, no. I wanted them to stay away from drugs, obviously, obvious. Who, you know, who wants their kids on drugs? Said no one. But when I got pregnant, I, it was St. Patrick's Day and I'd gone down and gotten,

• 1:23:47Speaker 05

  I felt like having sex and John was with his friends. So I went down to the, it was known as a bicycle club in Burbank. And I dragged him away from his friends for a quickie on the living room floor. And I literally heard ping. I, it was like ping, you're pregnant. And I just remember him saying, I am not out of the room. And I was pregnant. I, we couldn't know then, right? And then I tell the story, but I really heard one's coming and one's going. So I didn't quite know what it meant. But when I looked up when Keithy would be born and it was a SAG, I knew it was his brother Jimmy. So I didn't know the timeline, but that was my first hit that Jimmy was gonna pass. And that Jimmy's the stepson. Yeah. He was, um, that devastated me, like, because I saw it. And as a psychic person, when you get

• 1:24:31Speaker 05

  that information, it's almost like you feel you're causing it. But it's not that. You're, you're getting the phone, like the strand of information first and you can feel it. And it's so, um, it blew my mind. It, uh, it fractured me. I was not normal after, like I had a psychotic break. Like, that's what they said. I went to the hospital and ran away from the hospital because I thought the doctor was an escaped mental patient. I mean, I was out of my mind. Like, I was just like, I'm not staying. Goodbye. Yeah, I gotta go. You, cause the voices in my head, like now they were messing with me because I was so, when, when Jimmy died, it, it, um,

• 1:25:16Speaker 05

  Shattered me like glass and John as well. I'll never forget it. But as we got closer to the timeframe, I had the conversation with him because I kept hearing the voices. So I thought I'll go to his work and just jokingly sit down with him because he, we learned while I was pregnant. He had a drug problem. We did not know that. I mean, maybe his sister did, but I did not know that other than weed. I mean, whatever, but nothing serious. And he started doing the overdosing thing and this and that, and he did not look like it. He was extremely good looking, okay, and tall and healthy looking and damn, you know, so he didn't look like he was destroying himself, if that makes sense. And I went to John's work. He was working with John at that time and I sat down with him and on his lunch break,

• 1:25:58Speaker 05

  he'd always tan out in the parking lot. So I was sitting with him and I'm like, you know, how do you want, how do you want to be buried? And he's like traditional Catholic and He just answers that? Yeah, he just like, no, he was a double sad. She was the best. He was December 9th. And he had a Pisces moon though, sweet little Pisces moon, really sad for this planet, too sensitive for the planet. Pisces Venus. Yeah, the nicest, the nicest person, the nicest, kindest person. Pisces always is, and they take care of everything and everybody, but it will destroy them too. So mentally for him, but anyway, he told me he'd just gone to a wedding and he was wearing his dad's

• 1:26:38Speaker 05

  tie, which was the one that John wore to our wedding. So he said, yeah, I'll wear that tie and this, that and the other. So, you know, up then I was, after Keith was born, I thought we were safe again. This is my thinking I can control or that I understand, and I did not. They're going to teach you a lesson psychically every single time. But it was Keithy took his first steps on the day, on the day his brother died. So my son walked and our other son, which would be John's son, passed on that day and it just Similar drug overdose? Yep, at, at John's work and I just, I, I heard the phone call coming in and I walked out the front door because I knew. I was told it would be by Halloween and this was October 9th.

• 1:27:21Speaker 05

  And it, I can't even describe it. I was not normal. Neither was obviously John. And poor Keithy was 10 months old, so he never knew, he went through so much and That was my first, I remember looking at the body in the funeral, it's not funny, but in the funeral home.

• 1:27:38Bunnie XO?

  We have already established that you laugh when you're uncomfortable.

• 1:27:41Speaker 05

  It was so, I almost knocked all the flowers over, like I couldn't get out of the room fast enough. And I was like, they didn't brush his hair right. He had long hair, he used to wear it in a ponytail. And I was like, his hair's wrong. But of course, you're dead. So your hair is wrong. You're dead. And it was so traumatic for me. And I had postpartum too. So I had those two things. And poor John, he had to get up and go to work. Like, he was supporting us at that time. Because I had stopped working pregnant with Keith, and was looking after Jason. And so he was a sole supporter. So he had to go back to work. And the thing about the grief that I found so interesting is, people would call me from his work, like he'd forward the phones and I'd answer. And they're like, yeah, how's

• 1:28:26Speaker 05

  Jimmy? John told me he was, you know, getting lunch when I stopped by. And I'm like, he's actually dead. Like, he would not say it. For like, a good, he was, he wouldn't say it. I mean, people knew, obviously, people knew us, but he wouldn't say it. And poor Jason was three and loved his brother. Before my Keithy came, it was Jimmy who showed himself on my podcast. And so I jokingly thought, is he your first dad? Because we were fighting at the time. I'm like, how about somebody else in the family? Never occurred to me that he, he crossed my son over. So he came to let me know. I always saw Jimmy. He showed me how he died. Much different than with Keith. And with, when Keith passed, when I

• 1:29:09Speaker 05

  got that call from my other son, Jason, who did not know he was dead. He just said, his exact words, 1:30. Is it okay to say this? Yeah, you asked about the kids, so I'm talking about it. But when Jace called me, I'd just finished working. And he never called. He used to text. So I picked up for that reason. You know how these kids are. They don't want to talk to you.

• 1:29:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I've tried to get our kid on the phone all the time. I'm like, don't text me, call me.

• 1:29:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, they don't like that. The thirty year olds don't either. Yeah. Thirty one. Anyway, he called me and he said Keith hit the floor and I'm like, he fell down the stairs. Like, I didn't understand the motorcycle conversation. And I said, what are you talking about? He said, the motorcycle. And I said, where? What hospital? I went right to that. He said, Chatsworth. I said, where? DeSoto. So I'm on the phone. I have had a best friend. So did he know? No, he didn't. No, no, no. Somebody had called him. Gotcha. And said, your brother was in an accident. I heard from George because Keith had gone out to get the motorcycle. John had COVID at the time, was really sick. George and Keith went out to get Keith's bike because it had been in the shop.

• 1:30:16Speaker 05

  So George was driving, shout out to George, a Scorpio. There you go. Yeah. He's a November fourth Scorpio. Anyway, one of Keith's friends, he was driving Keith's car and Keith was riding the bike home and they were going to the gym after that, like, like my kids do. Yeah. And so George did not have my phone number or Jason's. So he called our other neighbor, David. David called Jason. So that's how I found out and then said, call your mom, tell her whatever. But he didn't know he was dead. So David drove out before we got there and then the police told David what happened. And he called Jason, but I did not get that call, but I knew I went completely, the, the, I went numb.

• 1:30:56Speaker 05

  I don't have feeling. I laugh. You could punch me. I don't have feelings now. I don't feel anxiety. Like, you know how it takes over your body? I don't feel that anymore, but I know I have it. Right. Mentally, intellectually, but I feel nothing physically. So I, of course, went to anger, but I drove down the street. I was calling the police and they wouldn't tell me. So then David called me and sent me a PIN to where Keith was. And I said, you need to tell me is my son dead? And he wouldn't answer. So I started screaming at him, you killed him. Like, I just went right nuts on him, the poor kid. He hung up on me, ignored me, thank God, but he didn't want to tell me. That's what he said later. He goes, I just didn't want to say it. You were driving. So I just didn't want to say it.

• 1:31:38Speaker 05

  So I was on the, I was on, it's funny, I'd been on a group text, shout out to Carol, and she had said, let's, I had said, let's steal the bikes. And she was gonna put them in her garage and I didn't follow through. Cause I called John and he said they'll just get insurance money and buy faster bikes.

• 1:31:55Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:31:56Speaker 05

  So, and I didn't even know Keith had a bike until two weeks before he passed. Because I wasn't living in that house and they shut the garage on me till I walked up on it one day. I saw Jason's bike and then I saw a blue one and I'm like, whose is that? Cause I know Jason.

• 1:32:08Bunnie XO?

  I have the same thing with motorcycles. I will not let my husband have one.

• 1:32:11Speaker 05

  No, fuck no. No, the drivers, no, this lady, just, I have the video from a neighbor, thank God. I had to do all the work though, and the police thought I was crazy.

• 1:32:21Bunnie XO?

  Your crazy mom who left your son.

• 1:32:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's it. I, I just remember pulling up and I saw the tarp and I went completely nuts. They would not let me go near the body. I didn't care. I don't care what position my son's in. He's my son. I'm here to, to clean his life up and bring him in. Like, that's my job. And I'll tell you something, I, I think of it, it's to all the mothers that have lost, I hope I don't cry. Anyway, to all the mothers who've lost kids, makes me, um, it's a full moon, I'm going nuts, but.

• 1:32:52Bunnie XO?

  It's okay.

• 1:32:53Speaker 05

  It's, um.

• 1:32:54Bunnie XO?

  It's okay to hurt. This is a.

• 1:32:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's very painful, but obviously, but to all the mothers, it's a great honor to finish your child's life. I learned that because I cleaned up and had help from so many people who helped me clean up my son's life. Um, I felt like I had to, like, he was not finished and so I felt like I would do everything, find out everything, make sure all his friends knew how important they were to him. And do things in his honor. That's how I looked at it now. That was, it was, um,

• 1:33:28Speaker 05

  it blew my mind. I was just like, and I just couldn't understand, like, people, like, the police were there. I couldn't understand what they were saying. I was like, what the fuck are you saying? And I could see him and it's funny, the first person I texted was his ex-girlfriend. They were not together. Her name is Paige. I love her dearly. I texted her. I sent her a picture from across the street. Don't ask me why I did that. She was with her boyfriend now and they have a one-year-old, sixteen-month-old child, really cute. And um, he said, she told me this after, he said, what's wrong? And she said, I think Keith died. So they pulled over. She had the same reaction I did because he looked like he was sleeping. They covered him.

• 1:34:10Speaker 05

  And his little socks were there and they were dirty on the bottom. And I was like, why are his socks? Cause he used to run around in white socks outside on the, you know how men are, they just go out. And she had the same, same comment. I just felt the urge to send her that. I don't know. I just had that reaction. And she was, yeah, she would, and then Jason pulled up. He reacted the same way I did. He ran out of the car. It took three police to hold him back because he was gonna fight them.

• 1:34:38Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:34:39Speaker 05

  He's like his brother that way, but he's a guy. And McKenna was there, my lovely little makeup artist's daughter-in-law, and she was there. And I just watched her. She kind of slid onto the ground. She's a Pisces. She just kinda hit the ground. And Jason just ran like he was a quarterback, like trying to get to his brother and they had to like, you know, push him like that. And so it was unbelievably traumatic. I just changed the whole mood of the room, but it was,

• 1:35:09Bunnie XO?

  No, that's okay.

• 1:35:10Speaker 05

  It was so traumatic to me that

• 1:35:16Speaker 05

  I don't even know how to describe it. Like John didn't get out there to, I just, and I remember calling him as I was driving up. And I told him to shut up because he started crying like a wounded animal, not crying, wailing. The word is wailing. I couldn't handle it. Shut up, click. And um, he couldn't come because he was too sick. He had a fever and all of that, but. I just seeing it just blew my like it just blew my mind and so we waited you wait obviously till the coroner gets there because they have to do what they do. And I was, George had gone, George, because the police, he took Keith's car, his family took Keith's car to John's.

• 1:35:54Speaker 05

  And when the coroner put Keith on the stretcher, his eyes were half open, like that's what happens when you die. And his mouth was open. So I, I was above his head and his feet were this way. And Jason was behind me in the corner and I sniffed for him. I wanted to smell him. He was not there. I sniffed his mouth. I looked at, I, I was like a nut. I looked at his eyes. I had to take it all in because that's how I am. I have to find out everything, but I had to look at him. I had to see. I didn't have panic at the time. I was just numb, but I could not smell him. He was gone, like he was out of the vicinity. Now I'm going to tell a really interesting thing after that. The next day, my Jason was coming home from

• 1:36:40Speaker 05

  the gym in Burbank or wherever he was, but I think it was a gym. A lady hit him on his motorbike. So I was in the emergency room with him. She ran over his right, didn't break anything. But ran over the right side of his leg and wouldn't get off. She was wearing a mask and an older lady and the lady behind her had to bang, bang, bang, and then help Jason. The day after that, Jason says he doesn't remember, but Ken does remember. So Jason anyway, said he had like a vision in our house and he saw Keith come in with his helmet on, go upstairs like he did. And he turned to his dad and John said to him in this vision, this wasn't really happening. This is what Jason saw. And he said,

• 1:37:24Speaker 05

  doesn't, doesn't he know he's dead? And John said, don't tell him he'll stay longer, which would be exactly what he would say. And so Jason said, they sat there and Keith came downstairs, sat on our table. We have a low table and lounge table and he sat on it. And Jason and John and him were talking in this vision and then Jason couldn't stand it anymore and he said, Bro, you died on a motorcycle. You're dead. And he said Keith looked at him and said, I'm not dead. And they, they did what guys do. They stood up and these two would, you know how guys are, they fight like with their chests and stuff. And Jason said he like chest bumped him energetically. And then got so mad, he swooshed out of the room. So technically Jason told a piece of Keith's soul. That's a great illustration.

• 1:38:06Speaker 05

  Because he helped his brother leave, like at least understand part of that because part. We split into different energies when we pass. Part of his energy. Went one way, but part came home because he wasn't sure. Because we're not contained, see? So Jason actually did that. Jason has been a good medium since he was a kid. He's actually better than I am, but. He will never admit it and will ignore this conversation for me saying that. And then that night I slept in Keith's bed. And I felt him. Kenny came in the room. Keithy's cat was there Tulip. And I felt Keith come through me, but he was. It's fragmented. I knew he was hugging me, but his energy was all over me and yet he was hugging me.

• 1:38:51Speaker 05

  It wasn't like I hug you.

• 1:38:52Bunnie XO?

  It's kind of like a tornado of energy.

• 1:38:55Speaker 05

  Like the static on a TV for, like you walk through that and how that would feel. It was like that, but I knew it was him. I slept in his bed and I, I just said to John, I'm gonna sleep in his bed and I went so that I could smell him because I couldn't smell him. And that made me, he had a very distinct, my kids, I could, you know. You can smell your children, even with clothes on, you can smell them.

• 1:39:15Bunnie XO?

  And when was this? When did this happen?

• 1:39:16Speaker 05

  Twenty twenty, July twenty nine, twenty twenty. Yeah. But Keith, Keith, I have to show you the picture. He manifested on my live stream. Because I kept saying, I can't feel him. I, I did. I felt him move through me and I felt him when I was preparing. His friends. Prepared the most beautiful send off and celebration. We did the service in the park. Guerrilla style because it was COVID. So like sixty people came in the park where he would work out during COVID. The funeral home took his body across the street because there were no, nobody was allowed to view. I threw a tantrum and said, I'm bringing him home if we can't. And so they moved him to a different area. We signed waivers and everybody was at once was able to see him.

• 1:40:00Speaker 05

  And I was quite fine looking at his body because I knew he wasn't there. So it was very different than when his brother died because. Something in me thought he was still in there, but when I looked at Keith, he looked like my Keithy. Skinnier because you you lose your volume, but it wasn't like he's not there.

• 1:40:17Bunnie XO?

  Do you think it's because you had that maternal attachment to him? That you could feel that as opposed to with Jimmy?

• 1:40:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, oh, definitely. Yeah, I just knew he wasn't there. So um, I I looked at the body and I I actually took pictures of him so that I would remember it. And it looks like him sleeping like a little angel. So they could not put clothes on him because he his body was damaged tremendously from the motorcycle. So they wrapped him and he looked like a little mummy. It was so cute. His little face was really cute. So I saw that and he manifested. I think it was Elvis's birthday. Somebody emailed me the other night. I was talking about this. So I have like your sets, like a couch that was behind me and it had a blue throw on it. It was in my other studio and they're

• 1:41:03Bunnie XO?

  They're all crying over here. It made me cry too.

• 1:41:06Speaker 05

  I am. I'm sorry.

• 1:41:07Bunnie XO?

  No, don't apologize for being vulnerable.

• 1:41:10Speaker 05

  It's yeah, it's the it. The one way to get at me is to say something about my kids. I will. Yeah, or to you know, like negative. I mean, but

• 1:41:18Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 1:41:18Speaker 05

  Um, Keithy came through, so I I was sitting. So I sit at at the kitchen table. The only thing I took in the divorce was my kitchen table where my kids sat. That's like I lug a huge, big, fat, thick ass kitchen table around because I'm like

• 1:41:33Bunnie XO?

  My husband, he's obsessed with our kitchen tables for some reason.

• 1:41:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, because people sit there and talk. That's it. So I my camera's on that and my little. So I had it there. And the the two chairs were behind me and people started going, look, look what's happening behind you. So I turn, I can't see anything because the light's in my face and I don't see anything. They're like, there's the face. There's the face. And I'm like, I'm live streaming, so I can hear them. I mean, see the thing. And I'm like, oh, it's got to be Jim Morrison. I'm screwing around. I have a picture. It's Keith's profile from his picture. Someone took a picture of me with it behind it and attached Keith's face beside it to show like he manifests. He manifests all the time. So I get comfort in that, although I'll tell you as a medium who's lived through this,

• 1:42:20Speaker 05

  I still want my son here. There is nothing you can tell a mother or a person who's lost somebody that makes them feel better. So I don't even think I make people feel better when I tell them if I tell them I because I miss my son. So you can tell me stuff. Doesn't matter. I want my Keith here.

• 1:42:37Bunnie XO?

  I think your soul is always gonna ache for him.

• 1:42:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, I, I think that's, that's what I'm, that, that's what I do. So, but it has brought me so many lovely people who, so many people reached out. Oh, my God, I was dying. Like, I, and so many people. I shout out to the, my friend Bobby, who Keith came to her and she painted his picture. And then she was a P I and she found every witness. So, and set up everything I needed to take to court, you know, to try and figure out what happened. She did it. And she literally said.

• 1:43:09Bunnie XO?

  Was it a hit and run?

• 1:43:10Speaker 05

  It was.

• 1:43:13Speaker 05

  Like my friend Stacy, who is a police of Los Angeles, said it, it caused the accident. Like if you're on the side, it, they didn't hit him, but they pulled into his lane. Cause it was DeSoto, so six lanes going one way, going the other way. And Keith, he was going to the freeway. He was in the closest to oncoming traffic. The lady pulled to turn left. And she went out like this, which caused him to move into the middle lane. And I have him on the bike. He's upright and fine. Like, nothing is showing. And then two houses later. He hits a mailbox that the person cemented into the ground and it all catapults him and cuts basically his, this artery here. And so he was dead and people kept saying, oh, your son was doing a wheelie.

• 1:43:57Speaker 05

  No, he hit the mailbox and when it cut him, because it was metal and cemented, when it cut him, that's a death grip like that.

• 1:44:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:05Speaker 05

  That's what that is. And then he hit a telephone pole and you'll love, not love that, but he landed outside a Buddhist temple.

• 1:44:12Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:44:12Speaker 05

  And so the monks were praying for him.

• 1:44:14Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:44:15Speaker 05

  When I got there, which I liked.

• 1:44:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:17Speaker 05

  Because my Keithy like, would like that. So I was very happy that people, they went, they told me, they took me over there when I got there and they told me they were praying for him and they were chant, you could hear them chanting. So he passed right outside of there. And it was actually under a really beautiful tree. It's very odd, but I tried to observe everything that, about it. Like every single element so that I know what I saw and I can.

• 1:44:41Bunnie XO?

  Understand it.

• 1:44:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, I, I had to.

• 1:44:43Bunnie XO?

  Sense of it.

• 1:44:44Speaker 05

  Absolutely. I petitioned the court for three years and finally got all the police video cam. So I saw every aspect of the damage done to my son. All the video, now I can look at it. John does not want to look at it. Jason and I can look at it, but I had to look at witnesses and how they responded and people around and I had to know. And I can actually hear through the video, um, Keith's friend David on the phone, the police are telling him and he's crying and I can hear Jason screaming at him through the phone and I can hear him say, "Bro, why would I lie your brother's debt?" Like, I can hear that conversation. So it's fascinating. It put everything into order for me. So I can see how it drives people crazy when they don't know, you know, what happened or they can't

• 1:45:25Speaker 05

  see it. So I advise people to get as much information, as much as you can get, because even though you don't want to know it, it may help you understand a series of events at which will then help you process it.

• 1:45:38Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 1:45:39Speaker 05

  That's what I feel.

• 1:45:40Bunnie XO?

  No, I'm the same way. I want to know every aspect of every situation so that I can either one, come to some sort of closure in my own life or just know, I, it's just something about being an information junkie. I have to know everything.

• 1:45:55Speaker 05

  You need to know. Yeah, that's, that's the same with me. I needed to know. And then I needed to advocate for my son and I needed to, I throw parties to celebrate his transition, which is his birthday on the other side. That's how I choose to see it. So, um, I put a bench up in the park. That's what we decided to do as a family where he exercised. So I decorate it on the day he passed and we have beer and pizza parties and on his birthday, we let off firecrackers. The neighbors called the police, but we do it every year. So that's what we do and his friends come and they always, you know, I get invited to all the baby showers. So I go as him, if that makes sense. Yep, absolutely. For every single one of his friends and all their little kids and it's, it's, it's a nice gift.

• 1:46:38Bunnie XO?

  Therapeutic for you too.

• 1:46:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. Oh no, it's really great to watch these kids. I wish, I know he knows Meadow. That's my little granddaughter. I know he knows her.

• 1:46:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:47Speaker 05

  Yeah. And my, my other granddaughter did part of the eulogy at his funeral. She was eight. She stood up. She wanted to.

• 1:46:54Bunnie XO?

  Oh my goodness.

• 1:46:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, she did. Really brave. Cause I didn't want to stand up. So she did. Yeah, really brave.

• 1:47:01Bunnie XO?

  Well, I'm, thank you for sharing that with us.

• 1:47:04Speaker 05

  God, I just, your audience is like, whoa.

• 1:47:05Bunnie XO?

  No, they love this. What do you mean?

• 1:47:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:47:08Bunnie XO?

  I, before we get in segue into our next, um, chapter of this, can I pee really quick?

• 1:47:13Speaker 05

  Sorry, we're getting our lives together, Sloan.

• 1:47:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm getting mine together. I dressed. I'm like, I'm so excited. I arrived here.

• 1:47:20Speaker 05

  Like a sane person. Sometimes I think I'm gonna look cute for somebody and then I'm like, just stick with what you know works.

• 1:47:26Bunnie XO?

  You look beautiful. You are gorgeous.

• 1:47:29Speaker 05

  I, we, we both, we all, all of us are gorgeous. Everybody's gorgeous. They really are, but we don't see it that way because we believe bullshit.

• 1:47:37Bunnie XO?

  I do. And you know what? A lot of people are always like, why is Bunny nice to these people? Like, I was on.

• 1:47:42Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:47:42Bunnie XO?

  Somebody sent me a bunch of screenshots today from this group that's on a website that fucking just does nothing but talk shit about people. And they were like, Bunny is always just so nice to people who have mental illness. And I'm like, am I supposed to judge them? Am I supposed to make them feel terrible about themselves?

• 1:47:58Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:47:59Bunnie XO?

  That's not, that's not what I'm here for. I'm here to love people and put a smile on their face and make them feel good about themselves.

• 1:48:05Speaker 05

  That's an ignorant comment.

• 1:48:06Bunnie XO?

  It's so fucking weird. You would, you would not believe the shit I have to deal with online. It's crazy.

• 1:48:10Speaker 05

  I get, I get the, yeah, that one woman, my P I was messaging me going, I think this is her page. She's sending it to me while I'm here. And I'm like, she's like, you can tell she killed her son and to be, to be famous. I'm like, lady, I had no, like in my head, but you can't fight them back.

• 1:48:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:29Speaker 05

  Because.

• 1:48:30Bunnie XO?

  They tried to say that about us. My mom died before an award show.

• 1:48:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:48:33Bunnie XO?

  And they tried to say, oh, was Bunny's mom a sacrifice? And that's why Jay won all the awards. And I'm like, my mom?

• 1:48:40Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:48:40Bunnie XO?

  Like, nobody wants her. Like, love you, mom, but no, but that's not sacrificial lamb material. You know, like, not happening.

• 1:48:47Speaker 05

  No, it's, it, it just, it, it's weird. And then they say things like you talked it. And no, that, that's how I work. That's what Claire audience is. You say things and it actually happens.

• 1:48:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:57Speaker 05

  So it was just horrible. It was.

• 1:48:58Bunnie XO?

  See, so mine's the opposite. I have visions and if I don't say anything, it will happen. But if I do, sometimes it like changes the trajectory of it. It's really weird.

• 1:49:08Speaker 05

  Oh, that's interesting.

• 1:49:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's really weird. I tell them that all the time. I'm like, I have to tell you this because if I tell you it, then it won't happen.

• 1:49:15Speaker 05

  Okay, yeah, that's, that could be also your OCD.

• 1:49:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:19Speaker 05

  Making the deals, making the deals, but um, I know with me when I call it psychic threats, if I keep hearing it enough, I have to say it, or it just eats me. And I wanted to warn both my boys and I didn't know which one I, my best friend was a psychic and I went to her and I said, tell me which one of my fucking kids is dying. And she's like, I can see the chaos, I can see the lady and it was a lady that pulled that we just found her, taken me four years to find her. We just, I put her face everywhere online, I got it off the, would never know who she was, but I got it off the police footage, that's why I knew I had to get it.

• 1:49:47Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:49:48Speaker 05

  So now we're tracking her this week, my PPI is gonna call her.

• 1:49:50Bunnie XO?

  And then you can put, you can press charges.

• 1:49:52Speaker 05

  Well, she's gonna have to say why she didn't stop, she's all over my son's body an hour before I got there, I have it on, police are, they didn't get her name, nothing, she's.

• 1:50:00Bunnie XO?

  Oh, she stopped and then?

• 1:50:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, she stopped, they're look, her and her, whoever she was with, they're looking for shit all over the ground. And I'm like, it, it, and, and then they're talking shit, they're talking shit about George's family, I have it on tape, like I got the police footage, I had to subpoena myself, I had to research how to do that.

• 1:50:17Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:50:18Speaker 05

  Took me eighteen tries, but I kept going into court, getting a subpoena, I've been going down there and they're like, denied, and I'm like, you motherfuckers, I'm going back, but I did it because I knew I had to see something on the footage. And it's actually the, one of our witnesses described her and said, oh no, she talked to the police and they didn't think anything of it. He died six months after that from a fentanyl overdose. And so, but he described her, so when I saw her on the video, I'm like, bingo.

• 1:50:44Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:50:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, I have him on tape, so I taped everybody. Yeah, it, it, yeah, yeah, poor kid was Jason's age anyway, fentanyl, and he was just, I felt bad, he didn't stop because he said he was smoking weed when he was driving up the street, he didn't want to get busted, but he did report her, and then I can see her everywhere. She's all over the body and the police says, what's your name ma'am? And she's like, oh, I'm praying, and she pretends to pray, I want. Yeah, I want to kick the shit out of her.

• 1:51:09Bunnie XO?

  Sloan, that is horrific.

• 1:51:11Speaker 05

  I watched it and they wouldn't let me.

• 1:51:13Bunnie XO?

  I would never be able to live with that.

• 1:51:15Speaker 05

  No, that's not.

• 1:51:16Bunnie XO?

  To go home and.

• 1:51:17Speaker 05

  You're not a good person.

• 1:51:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, to go home and go to bed and know that you fucking killed somebody and you acted like you were praying over them.

• 1:51:23Speaker 05

  Well, see, because she didn't. She didn't hit him, she pulled out.

• 1:51:26Bunnie XO?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 1:51:27Speaker 05

  Which, so, there was.

• 1:51:29Bunnie XO?

  She obviously knew she did something wrong.

• 1:51:30Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:51:31Bunnie XO?

  She was investigating his body.

• 1:51:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, and then she went to help George. She got water, so I asked George's mom, do you know this woman? And she said, oh, that's the nice lady that brought him water, talking shit to the cops on her way. Oh, that kid, he comes from a shitty family. And then she's like, um, yeah, the mother, she's a tall blonde. I'm not tall, I'm five six, I'm average. And, I mean, and then she's like, the father's older, and then the kid in the car's like, he's like eighty. I'm like, how do you know who I am? Like, they, they obviously went on, I, I don't know, but they bad mouthed George and all kinds of shit. And poor George was so traumatized, because he was, he went, sat with Keith. But anyway, it was so, but now I have her name, so my P I is texting.

• 1:52:09Bunnie XO?

  Well, you gotta keep me updated on that.

• 1:52:11Speaker 05

  I'll keep you.

• 1:52:11Bunnie XO?

  And once you, you know, pursue it and everything, come back on the podcast.

• 1:52:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, and we're definitely doing that. I mean.

• 1:52:17Bunnie XO?

  Hell hath no fury like a mama scorned, man, let me tell you.

• 1:52:20Speaker 05

  No, this is Keith right here. This, he would hate it, but I hacked, hijacked his phone.

• 1:52:26Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:52:27Speaker 05

  And hacked into it. And that's the last picture he had of, but he was six foot four and darling cute. Such a cute little blonde, green eyed, sweet child.

• 1:52:35Bunnie XO?

  Sounds like my type.

• 1:52:36Speaker 05

  Yeah. He would, he would, he would love him, he was so cute. And he, he would have loved you. He'd have been so excited because of your husband, he would have loved that.

• 1:52:45Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love that.

• 1:52:46Speaker 05

  His best friend's mom texted me, oh my God, Keith would have loved Jelly Roll's music.

• 1:52:50Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:52:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, so.

• 1:52:51Bunnie XO?

  So, speaking of, speaking of Jelly Roll.

• 1:52:54Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:52:54Bunnie XO?

  You know, my husband is obsessed with you, and he has just been, since last night, just hammering me with, please, ask her these questions. Please, I need answers, and like, he just really doesn't.

• 1:53:05Speaker 05

  He has answered, but he's just being kind.

• 1:53:08Bunnie XO?

  He doesn't, no, he doesn't trust anybody, you know? You and Tyler Henry are like the only two that he was actually like, you know, please. And then, so, I made the mistake of, I just never want to, um, ever overstay my welcome with people's gifts, you know? And I just feel like it's, it's a gift, and, you know, like, I don't ever want to.

• 1:53:29Bunnie XO?

  Intrude. So with Tyler, I didn't really go in depth and I didn't intrude and he was just, Jay was like, what do you mean? You had him for two hours and you didn't ask him a fucking thing. And I'm like, well, not really. Um, so we will do the complete opposite and I will try to ask you some questions. And but you, so you pulled up our birth charts?

• 1:53:51Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:53:51Bunnie XO?

  Okay, cool. Yeah. So you did our birth charts and I'm curious to hear about all this. Let's go ahead and.

• 1:53:56Speaker 05

  Okay. Well, this is super interesting. I'm gonna tell you something super interesting about your man first. I'll go back to, you're the host. I should talk about you.

• 1:54:03Bunnie XO?

  No, talk about daddy.

• 1:54:05Speaker 05

  Since we just talked to daddy and he said, don't forget me. We're not forgetting you daddy. Can I call him daddy?

• 1:54:10Bunnie XO?

  Yes, of course. Everybody calls him daddy role.

• 1:54:12Speaker 05

  Okay. Yeah. So the first thing I noticed with him in this life, and I'm going to say it straight out, no matter what he did, whether he's a singer, construction worker, I don't care what he did, in this life, he was never going to be handed anything. His life is about building it for himself from his own constitution. So he wasn't gonna, even if he was born into a Hilton family, he was never going to inherit that money because for some reason, the karma in this life is you must do for yourself. It's about getting to know yourself in this life. His chart is totally set up for music.

• 1:54:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:49Speaker 05

  But here's the issue. Everybody got an issue in astrology. Okay. Cause he's a Sag rising. Okay. So that's fantastic. It's cute. But he has Neptune on the ascendant, which is musical sun and Uranus in the 12th house. He actually channels the music he writes. So it comes to him in clear audience form. So he understands what I'm saying because he hears the wording and puts it to paper.

• 1:55:11Bunnie XO?

  He does. He puts it in his notes.

• 1:55:13Speaker 05

  Automatic writing. Okay. That's what we call, some people write like this when they're, when they're giving readings because it's automatic writing. So he could technically do that. He guides it towards music. Now, because Neptune.

• 1:55:27Speaker 05

  Which is your Venus's ruling planet, okay, because Venus is in Pisces, but because Neptune is up there on his ascendant, he has no clear vision of himself. So I'm going to just word it this way. I know he's extremely sensitive, so let me word it this way. Anything about him in a physical sense, he does not see himself in that way. Whoever and however he shows up, I don't care if he shows up like looking whatever versus how he looks now, whatever people think. This does not matter to him because he it changes for him when he sees himself. Obviously, he can look at himself. He knows who he is because he's, you know, gone by a mirror like we all do. But I'm talking spiritually speaking, he does not see himself.

• 1:56:09Speaker 05

  So he is a chameleon in the way he moves. Now, he seems, when I look at him, I could pretty much say, yep, I recognize the look, okay? I can see what he'd wear. I get all of that. However, on a spiritual level, that's not. He switches internally, therefore, that's why his physical isn't important to him. It has to be pointed out to him.

• 1:56:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:31Speaker 05

  Now, that's interesting because your chart is all about learning how to take care of self in this life in a physical way. So he would almost call you in to help him do that because it doesn't mean anything to him and not because of anything he is or isn't. He could be the version of the perfect version of health right now, according to the public, because I know what the public says about everybody.

• 1:56:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:55Speaker 05

  They're a bunch of bitches.

• 1:56:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:56Speaker 05

  Just shut the hell up. You know, it's always like, oh, you have blonde hair. Really, I never knew that about myself.

• 1:57:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:02Speaker 05

  You know. You're.

• 1:57:04Bunnie XO?

  Thanks, Captain Obvious.

• 1:57:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know. That's what I say all the time, whatever. But he doesn't see himself. So when you look at a chart and you see that Neptune there, you understand, oh, this makes sense. This makes perfect sense. If he were too focused on self, he wouldn't be able to accomplish his goal. So he's come from a direct past life where the focus has been on just self, like whatever that means. I don't quite know what that means, but self. So he wasn't able to do the other things he wanted to do. And this is like a cycle of three for him in this lifetime. So he's accomplished it. Now, I'm going to tell you something else. I'm going to go out on a limb and do one of my predictions. Okay? So within the next eight years, he's in another career. So the music thing is not where he's staying.

• 1:57:48Bunnie XO?

  Please don't say politics because that's what it's leading towards.

• 1:57:51Speaker 05

  Okay, well, it's eight years from now and the music is not what he's doing. It's so clear. He's, he's. Okay, when we come in, you know how they say we have a purpose in a life? And we have a goal. Okay, mine was about my children. Yours is to come through childhood and teach others through your candor and humor and truth and all of that. And you're doing it. His was to sing publicly. But he's finishing that from the most recent past life, which ended suddenly, now this is even stranger.

• 1:58:21Speaker 05

  It ended because, okay, his wiring internally, so electrical system, heart is very sensitive. So that's what happened in the past life. He carries it into this life. That's the only reason you need to watch what he does. Cause like, let's say he did a drug like speed. I'm just making that up. I'm saying, oh, what if? Don't go trolling us. But if he was to do something that quickened the body, this would be problematic for him. Because he's wired that way from the past life. Okay, so there was an issue. He carries that with him. So the music had to come to clear that. It's weird, but I saw that when I was looking at his chart. Okay. And so he has another career. It's about eight years from now. So this is 2024. Jump ahead eight years. And I think actually within five, he'll stop it.

• 1:59:02Speaker 05

  This music, because as much as he's brilliant at the music, it's not actually what he wants. I don't know if he tells people. Philanthropist at heart. Okay, yeah, it's not actually what he wants. So when it's not, I'm not saying it's bad. We're not saying that. We're not saying that daddy, but it's not what he wants. So he's focused in a different direction. That's what his soul has to do. Very powerful chart led by spirit. The rulership of the Neptune in the first house is placed in the 12th of past life. So the first half of this life is completing that life. Do you see? Yeah. Some people have just one life. Some people have three in one life, like there's three distinct karmic breaks. You can see it in hand reading with people too. I'm not good at that, but palm reading. Yeah.

• 1:59:44Speaker 05

  You can see where their life stops and starts, and then it's a whole, like they go left, totally different. He has that in this life. So he will never. You think you're rebellious? He will never be confined by what

• 1:59:56Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I say that about, that's why, not to cut you off.

• 1:59:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:59:59Bunnie XO?

  Everybody says, oh, Bunny's his handler. I'm like, do you think I could ever handle this man?

• 2:00:04Speaker 05

  No, no.

• 2:00:05Bunnie XO?

  No fucking way.

• 2:00:06Speaker 05

  No. Oh, you get the handler conversation?

• 2:00:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:08Speaker 05

  Okay, shut the fuck up.

• 2:00:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm his handler. I'm like, you guys must not know my husband.

• 2:00:13Speaker 05

  No, no, I can see it in the chart. I can see a chart. Charts never lie. So when I look at a chart and then I pick it up psychically, I'm like, shut up.

• 2:00:19Bunnie XO?

  You're not telling that man shit.

• 2:00:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, no.

• 2:00:21Bunnie XO?

  Daddy wears the pants, I control the zipper.

• 2:00:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:00:24Bunnie XO?

  That's it.

• 2:00:25Speaker 05

  That's why they're calling you the handler. You have hands and a zipper.

• 2:00:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, literally.

• 2:00:30Speaker 05

  But not the way they mean it.

• 2:00:31Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 2:00:31Speaker 05

  Cause they're so, bleh. Um, but it's interesting because he will never, never, never.

• 2:00:38Speaker 05

  He, even if everybody says, but you're a musician, he will break that mold and say, but I'm not.

• 2:00:44Bunnie XO?

  I believe it 100%.

• 2:00:45Speaker 05

  I mean, he is, but he won't stay stuck. So he will not.

• 2:00:48Bunnie XO?

  He's already broke so many molds in, within the music industry.

• 2:00:51Speaker 05

  Totally.

• 2:00:52Bunnie XO?

  So I, I 100% can see him going somewhere.

• 2:00:55Speaker 05

  He'll probably sing for his loved ones and people, but he will not be doing the tour thing because he's being guided in a different way. It's completely spiritual, completely from behind the scenes. I have to remember this. Yeah. Okay. That's exactly right.

• 2:01:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:06Speaker 05

  I gotta tell you something too. Okay. So he's so cute. He has a Scorpio South Node, Taurus North Node, and the South Nodes conjunct to Saturn. That's what I was picking up on the ending of the lifetime. Okay. So meaning that life he didn't complete. I'm not saying he died early. I'm just saying for whatever reason, it wasn't finished and it, there's a desire line. So he came into this life. The goal in life in a chart is to die without having a desire.

• 2:01:30Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 2:01:31Speaker 05

  Like whatever, like, let's say you want to buy a yacht and you never did, or something stupid like that. Never do that.

• 2:01:36Bunnie XO?

  Just fulfillment in general.

• 2:01:37Speaker 05

  It's correct. And so his, his goal in this life, and it's very important. Because I'm sure he maybe feels bad about the way he was raised or whatever, like what happened to him, just the circumstances. But he had to build himself because his North Nodes and Taurus, never, ever will a person with North Node and Taurus be handed like gobs of money and stuff unless they put into it themselves.

• 2:02:02Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 2:02:03Speaker 05

  That's the karma of that. Taurus, earthbound, monetary, money, building, one for good time.

• 2:02:10Bunnie XO?

  Taurus is right here.

• 2:02:10Speaker 05

  Yeah. And you two look like little Taurus. It's wait, what's your birthday? Only eighteenth, you're early, you're late, well, you're middle smack dab. Oh, it's so interesting. You two would be different, huh?

• 2:02:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, they're complete opposites.

• 2:02:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, totally different. You kind of have water in you somewhere.

• 2:02:27Bunnie XO?

  She's a, she's a whole Aries. This woman right here is all Aries.

• 2:02:30Speaker 05

  Aries and Taurus.

• 2:02:32Bunnie XO?

  I did her chart and she's got like seven.

• 2:02:33Speaker 05

  What's in water?

• 2:02:34Bunnie XO?

  I'm not sure. I'd have to look again. It's been a while.

• 2:02:36Speaker 05

  I see water. Sorry, I see sensitivity.

• 2:02:40Bunnie XO?

  Might be a watered moon or something. I'm not sure. I'd have to see.

• 2:02:42Speaker 05

  And this one's quirky over here.

• 2:02:44Bunnie XO?

  She's our gem, she's pretty much a Gemini.

• 2:02:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, the quirky one.

• 2:02:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, she's pretty much a whole Gemini right here. I compare her to our sixteen year old daughter.

• 2:02:52Speaker 05

  Oh, there you are, you quirky girl.

• 2:02:55Speaker 05

  So it's interesting when you're looking at Mimi's chart and you say she's all Aries. That's called a stellium, four more planets in the same sign. Yeah, so, so Jay has a Capricorn stellium.

• 2:03:06Bunnie XO?

  I know. I tell everybody that. Did I not say that? I'm like, I said, my husband's a Sag, but he's really a Capricorn.

• 2:03:11Speaker 05

  Which, how, forgive me for not being able to add, what is his age right now?

• 2:03:15Bunnie XO?

  Uh, thirty-nine.

• 2:03:16Speaker 05

  Okay, then I'm going to tell you exact timing. So thirty-nine, forty, forty-two. Forty-two and a half through forty-five is when he's out of music and into the next career. Not that he can't do music. I'm saying this is a choice. No one's saying, don't say.

• 2:03:31Bunnie XO?

  You're not saying anything that my husband hasn't already said. He always says, I don't want to be forty-five years old doing music.

• 2:03:36Speaker 05

  There you go.

• 2:03:37Bunnie XO?

  Says it all the time.

• 2:03:38Speaker 05

  And he's not going to. I'm here to prove that to him.

• 2:03:41Bunnie XO?

  I'm like, I'm like, Lord, please don't let it be politics because he is really getting involved in like, you know, a lot of stuff. And I'm like, I am not meant to be a first lady. Okay?

• 2:03:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, you are. At least you'll be able to dress cute.

• 2:03:51Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 2:03:52Speaker 05

  Jeez. Um, some of them dress cute, but you'll be cuter.

• 2:03:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:57Speaker 05

  Of course, I don't, I don't know if you can wear a crop top to the UN meeting.

• 2:04:01Bunnie XO?

  If anybody's gonna change, anybody's gonna change shit, it'll be me. I'm a trailblazer.

• 2:04:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, I would. I'd wear workout pants, but you know.

• 2:04:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 2:04:09Speaker 05

  Dress it up with heels, like it's an outfit.

• 2:04:12Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 2:04:13Speaker 05

  That's my thing. That's an outfit. Um, yeah, see, it's, Jay has, this, this is interesting. It could be politics, but I'll tell you something. It might be in a different way than we're thinking about it. So it might be abdicacy.

• 2:04:28Speaker 05

  Something like hmm, politics, but in a different way.

• 2:04:33Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 2:04:33Speaker 05

  If that makes sense.

• 2:04:34Bunnie XO?

  His own version of it.

• 2:04:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, it could because he's got, he's got Pluto in the 10th in Scorpio. He's got Saturn in Scorpio and he's got the stellium in Capricorn. Capricorn always supersedes after like 40s, 50s and 60s. They never are not successful later in life unless they choose to like, take off and not do it, right? Like unless they're like stubborn Capricorns and like fuck you, I'm not doing it.

• 2:04:57Bunnie XO?

  I have Capricorn in my chart.

• 2:04:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, you do. Um, and so now the other weirdo thing about him is I, I just, I have to say this, forgive me, but I don't know about his love life prior to you or anything. And I don't even care, but he was like a ladies man, huh?

• 2:05:15Bunnie XO?

  He's always been a ladies man.

• 2:05:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:05:16Bunnie XO?

  That's what I try to tell everybody.

• 2:05:18Speaker 05

  No, no, he is.

• 2:05:19Bunnie XO?

  Nobody listens to me.

• 2:05:19Speaker 05

  Women will stalk him, find him.

• 2:05:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:21Speaker 05

  It's his, see people, people, it's his energy. Yes, because he has Mars in Aquarius.

• 2:05:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:29Speaker 05

  That's friendly. Now, listen, when, when you're a friendly man and you're not molesting somebody.

• 2:05:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, he's not creepy.

• 2:05:35Speaker 05

  Yes, you're friendly. Women take that as flirting.

• 2:05:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:39Speaker 05

  So they're like, oh, he likes me.

• 2:05:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:41Speaker 05

  And then he has to chase them away because he's like, because of course with the Sag rising, he's like, I just want to be their friends, but she like wants to marry me. So for you to marry him is super good because he ran a lot.

• 2:05:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:56Speaker 05

  Ran, running.

• 2:05:58Bunnie XO?

  Didn't give me an option. He was like, I want to get married. And I was like, I do not.

• 2:06:02Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:06:02Bunnie XO?

  He was like, you're going to marry me. And like he was the first to say, I love you to me. And I wouldn't say it back to him and he got mad at me. Like, he was like, what do you mean? You don't love me. And I'm like, bro, we just started banging. Like, let's give me, it's been two weeks. Like, what are you talking about?

• 2:06:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly. It's, I'm going to pull up yours now. I have to like, I can't keep it all in my head right now.

• 2:06:21Bunnie XO?

  No, you're good.

• 2:06:22Speaker 05

  I can sometimes, but. Not if I am not studying it day in and day out. Okay, let me just find you. Look, look who needs glasses here in a squinting and not admit it.

• 2:06:31Bunnie XO?

  Dude, I got my bifocals right here.

• 2:06:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, so, do you?

• 2:06:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I cannot see without them.

• 2:06:37Speaker 05

  You're too young for that.

• 2:06:38Bunnie XO?

  No, I'm forty-four.

• 2:06:39Speaker 05

  That's super young. Super young. I'd love to be that again. Okay, so, yeah.

• 2:06:45Bunnie XO?

  You look forty-four, so.

• 2:06:47Speaker 05

  I love that.

• 2:06:47Bunnie XO?

  No, you really do.

• 2:06:48Speaker 05

  I love that about you saying that about me. What do I have to pay you to get that?

• 2:06:52Bunnie XO?

  Nothing. I was telling them that when you weren't even here.

• 2:06:55Speaker 05

  Oh, my God. Yeah, I'm glad that you see it in person and think it's okay.

• 2:06:58Bunnie XO?

  No, you look even better in person.

• 2:06:59Speaker 05

  I do?

• 2:07:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:00Speaker 05

  Well, that's because I actually.

• 2:07:02Bunnie XO?

  And like.

• 2:07:02Speaker 05

  Okay, that's good, because I put effort into the makeup.

• 2:07:04Bunnie XO?

  You look gorgeous.

• 2:07:05Speaker 05

  When I go on my own, it's like I've draggled in. Okay, so you're, his Capricorn, now, it's interesting, because he had a vision when he saw you, meaning he saw, okay, like, he knew there was a knowingness. We call that spiritual knowing, is clear cognizance, clear knowing. Okay, so he knew when he saw you. That's just it, because you're, when we look at, see, look at you. This is crazy. Okay, so you're really Aquarius stout, but you're Capricorn rising. Now, that is what gets you. Okay, so your little cap rising, that part is what sits on his planet, so you do motivate him. So technically, you could say that you motivate

• 2:07:45Speaker 05

  him, but it's because you can land in his thread of information. And I will say, for you, in the next couple of months, it's going to be a little bit difficult. I know you mentioned the new studio and you're doing another show, but you're going up energetically, like, your chart is lit. So, how do I want to word this for you? Letting go of things that no longer serve you, whatever that means. It could be a pair of, like, fuzzy boots that you wear because you love them, or whatever, right? Letting go of things that no longer suit you, and then kind of mourning the loss of who you were, because you weren't quite ready to let go of her, but now you're over here, and so you're her, not her, but they're both you. So, it's, it's this two timeframes sitting like that, but you have very powerful aspects,

• 2:08:28Speaker 05

  a lot of money, you have millionaires, which is neither here nor there, but you have a lot of aspects, and. Fascinating because your nodes are at twenty nine degrees. This lifetime, you had to learn how to present yourself in public. Because you were squashed in the last lifetime. I don't know who squashed you. The mother wound is. You carry mother wound with you over several lifetimes. Okay, several from what I could see. The mother wound is not what you think, though. It's more an issue. Of not abandoning your own femininity. It's not like the mothers did to you, but whoever were your mothers and this life, that life. And maybe like two back.

• 2:09:11Speaker 05

  Abandoned themselves as women and you chose not to.

• 2:09:16Bunnie XO?

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• 2:10:45Bunnie XO?

  That's your definitely did. She was a beautiful woman and just fucking let her whole life go to shit.

• 2:10:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:10:52Bunnie XO?

  And I hate that.

• 2:10:53Speaker 05

  You, you, you watch that though, more than one life. That's why you could not in this life. Okay. Why you could not. And it's so, so funny because your mom's like doing this with her hands.

• 2:11:04Bunnie XO?

  Oh, tell her to knock it off and get the hell out of here, Vanessa.

• 2:11:07Speaker 05

  She's doing, no, I don't even know her name, but she's doing this. And, and I'm going to say to you, it's funny. Because, okay, I don't know what area it is that you live in now, but there is a whole bunch of family stuff that you're going to dive into. Family genetics, the way the family worked and part of where you're connected through history in your family. She's saying that it was hidden from her. Your mother did not know her whole background. Your mother was not privy to where she came from. And your mother, this is what they're telling me. It's no excuse for your mother's behavior. They like to come through and try to make amendments over here. But, um, the way that I'm feeling it, and I see her to the end of her life, she suffered.

• 2:11:48Speaker 05

  I see her kind of sitting like this and wringing her hands. So she, the, the, your anxiety is genetic, all of that. But she was hidden from her own life. So she didn't understand that. She couldn't feel who she was because it was hidden from her. Was there something like weird when she was born about? I don't know if you've ever spoken about this. I have not heard you say it, but was she not told her history because she's, it's not what it is. So you can go back in your family, but it's not what it is.

• 2:12:14Bunnie XO?

  I don't know. I don't know. I don't know a lot on, on my dad's side. My dad, um, I don't know like a lot of that family, but my mom told me that I was born into just, uh, a bunch of Kentucky white trash witches. There was like seven of them and they were just like, all had gifts. They all were like spiritual.

• 2:12:32Speaker 05

  Yeah. She, you got from her, but no, there's something hidden about it. There's a tie to your family. And it's, I forgive me for saying this, it's connected to war back in the time. So when you say warrior, but it's connected to like American war. And I almost want to say in the Appalachians, I have no idea where that is really. Cause I'm Canadian. Huh? Where is that?

• 2:12:52Speaker 07

  Well, that would come through Kentucky.

• 2:12:54Speaker 05

  Okay, Appalachia's, yeah, but your family was connected to that. So there's, there's hierarchy in the family unit and then your mother's side cast out over here. I'm getting that and it makes her nervous that you're gonna find this out because it's gonna, kind of, sorry for laughing, it's gonna undermine who you thought you were. Not the witch part. That's probably why you were pushed over here. But um, it's not what you think. She was hidden. Your mom was hidden. So they didn't tell her the full truth. Yeah. Even if they told her truth, it was bits and pieces and not fully true. Can I stop finding out shit about my weird ass fucking family this life? I'm so tired of it. Like, why do I gotta be the fucking gatekeeper for all this shit?

• 2:13:33Speaker 05

  You know why? Because you're breaking the cycle. And the cycle is not um, not throwing yourself under the bus in order to be harmonious in any kind of relationship. Being true to who you are as a female soul. You had to master that. That's actually what you're doing. And the stark childhood is difficult for you. Now, look at that. There's your Neptune in Sag. So you see your husband exactly who he is. Yeah. 100%. Now, you're stellium in Virgo, three or more planets. You have Saturn, Mars, and Jupiter. That Mars in Virgo is super hard. Yeah. Super hard. Because regardless of what Jay is, he shows up like that in your chart.

• 2:14:14Speaker 05

  Okay, so doesn't matter the sign that you marry, the energy shows up there. And so you, he's your third marriage, you said? Or, okay, so first marriage in astrology is the seventh house. So that was a whiny crybaby man who was codependent and needed you to take care of everything. Okay? Yeah. So that was the first one. All of them. Second marriage is in the ninth house in a chart of a woman. Like, if you do Liz Taylor, you're going around the whole chart a couple of times. She's had like seven marriages, right? Yeah, exactly. So you have to jump. Is the ninth house. You have Libra in the ninth with Pluto in Libra. Control. Control issues. Dominant, possibly violent, but stalking. Okay? So that's second husband number two. Okay? So control over your energy. So that's probably why you split away from him. Husband number three.

• 2:15:00Speaker 05

  Big Daddy over here. Yeah. Yeah, Neptune in Sag in the 11th house. Friends first, okay, always friends, even if, let's say something happened and no one wanted to have sex ever again. Friends. Yeah. And that's actually extremely important. Friends and Neptune. Musical friends, musician. So you married a musician. Also, higher minded friends, the two of you will go towards where you, where you need to go. Whether you think you will or not. Yeah. So it doesn't matter. Like you could say, I'm going to change my life and I'm going to open up a chicken farm and raise chickens. Yeah. And you're, and you'll still end up where you need to be because of that. And it's a spiritual connection because it's Neptune.

• 2:15:42Speaker 05

  So a lot of times you're taking your glasses off, looking at him going, I didn't know that about him. Like he, it's, he surprises you. Yeah. That's how I am with those tattoos. Yeah. I'm like, when did you get that? He's like, I've had this bitch. And I'm like, you look like. And did you get that? Yeah. It's hilarious. So I'm like, I always see a new tattoo on him every time. Yeah. Where do you see us in like the future, in the next like five years, Jay and I? Okay. The net, you're not in music. That's what I'm, I know. Yeah. Don't, the fans are coming for me now. No, it's okay. Like bitch, shut up. Um, I feel like when I'm looking and I go around in my head, there's a connection to Europe with the two of you. So I'm not sure what that is, but I go around the world and then I go out of the country. So is that what is in mind for you? Um, I'm not sure yet, but I mean, it's not.

• 2:16:26Speaker 05

  I get a connection to Europe out of the country, so I'm pretty sure you're going to do something there. I don't feel you're going to stay in one place or another. So I don't feel there's a settling energy and I feel the karma of the work. I can't see if it's politics, but I do know it's a different career for both of you. And I do know you're going at it together. I don't see a divorce if that's what any crazy people are asking. No, we're not, we've already made a decision that no matter what we go through, we're sticking it out in this lifetime. Like we are our end game for each other. Yeah, I don't see, I don't. Nobody's going to put up with him the way I put up with him and no one's going to put up with me the way he puts up with me. Like we just get each other. Yeah, it's interesting. Um, in the next five years, I do feel though, like your career is going to change. Yeah. As well, and not, I'm not talking politics with you.

• 2:17:11Speaker 05

  You are going through, it'll be the next 26 years of your life, actually. Which is a long fucking time.

• 2:17:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:18Speaker 05

  You're going, you're headed in a different way and I'm going to go out on a limb and say this. You will actually do this work at one point in your life, period, end of conversation, don't come for me. But I'm literally hearing that right now. That's what you're supposed to be doing as a healer. You're doing it in this capacity, but you're going to figure out a way to do it differently. Like not in a podcast way is what I'm saying. And actually, it could be a group way, but it's a one-on-one way and you will do it. It'll come to you. You have guides around you, you have a lot of people. You have like wild lifetimes with very indigenous people. So, meaning you have that in your background as well. So there's like lineage all the way.

• 2:17:58Speaker 05

  You have a lot of people around you, like from many, many, obviously it's many lifetimes because it wouldn't be in the most recent three that you've been that. But you have that and you've always been like a medicine woman. So I feel like your career is going to go in that direction. There's also something to do with art because it comes across as very colorful to me. So I'm assuming art, but it might not be painting art. It could be a different expression I'm not picking up on. Um, I don't get any issues with health. I do feel, I do feel though that Jay has to look at himself and ground into himself.

• 2:18:30Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 2:18:30Speaker 05

  Like actually look at himself, what I, by look, I mean, understand he's a human.

• 2:18:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:35Speaker 05

  And step into it, which I'm sure he knows he is. He has to take his pants off one leg at a time, like we all do, but.

• 2:18:40Bunnie XO?

  Health-wise, how do you see Jay?

• 2:18:42Speaker 05

  I feel actually like he's pretty robust and consistent with his health. Like I don't see with him, when he passes, it's going to be sudden. It's not anytime soon that I can see, but I can see like out. So he won't be burdened. He has purpose right now. Not to say anyone who passes young doesn't because they do, but his purpose is still here. So I don't even get that around him. The only thing I would say is his wiring is very sensitive. So anything that he eats, drinks, smokes, ingests, smells like furniture, polish, whatever, he has to be careful. And I don't know if he's aware of that because he kind of pushes himself without paying attention, which is typical of Sagittarius's. They will push themselves into the ground, even if they're like, oh, my foot's broken. It's okay, I can walk there.

• 2:19:27Bunnie XO?

  He's very aware of it. He has atrial fibrillation.

• 2:19:30Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:19:30Bunnie XO?

  He's had to have his heart shocked a few times.

• 2:19:32Speaker 05

  Okay, yeah, it's his electrical system and I, I don't think, I get the electric. I can see that. That's from the past life. That shows in his chart.

• 2:19:40Bunnie XO?

  It's actually, his dad had it, everybody in his family has it too. So it's like.

• 2:19:44Speaker 05

  I don't feel he's gonna pass. What I feel with him, though, um, he has to be very careful because he has triggers like sensitive food, drink, literally chemicals. Like he's sensitive and I don't know that he's aware of that.

• 2:19:58Bunnie XO?

  He is. Well, he's starting to be. He's always thought I was crazy because I'm so like, get my blood work done and only eat a certain diet and all this other stuff. And he's always thought I was crazy. And finally, this year, he has literally hopped on the same train as me, even going to the same doctors and trying to one up me and get an even better doctor, Gary Brekka.

• 2:20:17Speaker 05

  Yeah. And get a better blood test. Does he do that? John does that with me?

• 2:20:22Bunnie XO?

  Yes. I'm like, okay, but whatever. So, yeah, so this year, he's really like taking it in. Do you see, or can you feel, um, any more children around us?

• 2:20:34Speaker 05

  Okay. Can I ask you who Catherine is?

• 2:20:37Bunnie XO?

  That is my grandmother.

• 2:20:38Speaker 05

  Okay. Yeah. Cause I hear the name real strong.

• 2:20:40Bunnie XO?

  That's my mom's mom.

• 2:20:41Speaker 05

  Okay. Yeah. The name real strong. You liked her though, right? I mean, you like your mom.

• 2:20:45Bunnie XO?

  I, I love my mom. I didn't like her. I love her.

• 2:20:48Speaker 05

  Loved her. Yes. You know what I'm saying?

• 2:20:50Bunnie XO?

  I didn't really know her.

• 2:20:51Speaker 05

  Okay. Because I feel, I feel like you, I just heard the name real strong. So she's here as well because I just heard it.

• 2:20:57Bunnie XO?

  God, if it's not my mom, it's the fucking her too.

• 2:20:59Speaker 05

  Well, I think probably, I think probably the secrets you're gonna uncover have to do with her.

• 2:21:04Bunnie XO?

  She was very secretive.

• 2:21:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. So I'm, if I'm outing your family, like outing that you're gonna find that, she's gonna come through and try to block it. No, no, no, no. You can't get me. Um, yeah, I feel, um, it's interesting. I feel you're a lot like her. Okay. I don't know what I mean by that. I'm not, I don't think I mean looks. I think something in you is a lot like her. You have, um, when you ask about kids coming to the family, are you talking about a male child?

• 2:21:34Bunnie XO?

  I wish.

• 2:21:36Speaker 05

  Okay. Yeah, there, I, I feel a boy child. Part of your karma with, with fully understanding yourself as a female. Would be the concept of creation and what is the thing that human female women can do, but to create life? That is the biggest form of creation.

• 2:21:54Bunnie XO?

  I just feel like I've been healing so much trauma with my parents that I finally am ready to be a parent. Like I've helped raise Bailey since she was seven and I think that also showed me that, hey, I'm not gonna fuck up a kid's life too badly, you know?

• 2:22:06Speaker 05

  That's, that's your trauma response. You would never hurt a child. That, that, that wouldn't, you'd be quite the opposite.

• 2:22:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:22:12Speaker 05

  You're not gonna be perfect, cuz when they hit teenage years, you're like, shut up.

• 2:22:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:22:16Speaker 05

  You know?

• 2:22:16Bunnie XO?

  That's how I am with Bailey right now. I'm like, kid, please. But I feel like I've mastered, not mastered, but I feel like I can do this, you know?

• 2:22:24Speaker 05

  You can do it.

• 2:22:25Bunnie XO?

  And I just want a little piece of Jay and I together.

• 2:22:27Speaker 05

  And then the next best thing after that is being a grandparent.

• 2:22:30Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh. Because you- Well, I'll be at the age to be a grandparent when they start having kids, so that'll be perfect.

• 2:22:36Speaker 05

  John was forty-seven with Jason and fifty with Keith.

• 2:22:40Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 2:22:40Speaker 05

  And he had kids at nineteen and twenty, forty-seven and fifty. And now he's with them with the grandkids. It's about, he loves them.

• 2:22:47Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 2:22:48Speaker 05

  So it's the best thing. Yeah. No, it's the best thing. You can't beat that.

• 2:22:52Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so I do have a question that we can do on the record.

• 2:22:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:22:54Bunnie XO?

  So I have, I have been pregnant three times in my life.

• 2:22:58Speaker 05

  Oh, my God. I, oh, I wish I'd have said that to you. Okay.

• 2:23:01Bunnie XO?

  Go ahead. What were you gonna say?

• 2:23:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, I wish I'd said that to you because you do have a girl on the other side and you're not gonna believe I said that.

• 2:23:07Bunnie XO?

  She follows me everywhere.

• 2:23:07Speaker 05

  Yeah. You'll have a little girl on the other side. You told me you were pregnant three times, so no one's gonna believe that, but I, I wish I'd have said it. But you do, and she's growing up with you on the other side. Now, let me explain this. So sometimes we have children here and they pass and they reincarnate and they go somewhere else or they go in a different dimension and we don't see them. Miscarriages can happen like that. Sometimes you can be pregnant and the baby comes to experience your physical and then for whatever reason, their choice or yours, and I'm not sure which it is, cuz it's different for everybody, they go on the other side, but they grow up with you over there, so they stick very close to their parent or parents, depending, their entire life. So they are like a certain age, they go through all of the things and celebrate

• 2:23:52Speaker 05

  everything with you. That's one child I see like that. Female.

• 2:23:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I've always said I have a little girl that follows me. I haven't seen her in a long, long time, but before, like, you know, probably like ten years ago, she was always, she made herself known.

• 2:24:05Speaker 05

  And it was three years before that that you- Miscarried?

• 2:24:08Bunnie XO?

  Um, I had, so when I was sixteen, when I was sixteen, I got pregnant the first time I had sex. And um, I ended that with an abortion because I was scared. I didn't know what to do. I was a runaway. And then after that, I had uh seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, three years, three, four years after I had um, an ectopic pregnancy.

• 2:24:27Speaker 05

  Oh, that you can't do. Yeah, because you die from that.

• 2:24:29Bunnie XO?

  I had two ectopic pregnancies.

• 2:24:31Speaker 05

  Oh, interesting. See, that is from the past life and the confirming that you accept your feminine self inside of you, your femininity. And so you're in this life as a woman, you see? So you experience that from that life. So there's, there's two, you're also merging in this life. So you're becoming stronger woman and you're breaking family patterning and cycling, and that's what you're doing.

• 2:24:51Bunnie XO?

  Wild.

• 2:24:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, that is what you're doing. So the ectopic pregnancy is just to let you know you can get pregnant and you're still a female. Believe it or not, I know we have this war, men against women, that the government makes up anyway.

• 2:25:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:25:02Speaker 05

  Souls come and go, we switch colors. That I do know because I've had past life visions and I'm a little boy in the south and I am a dark skinned little boy and I'm in my crib jumping up and down and there's shag carpet on the floor. Don't ask me when that was, but I see like a, like a thick carpet on the floor and it's weird and I'm in like a nursery or something. So we do switch male to female, back and forth, back and forth.

• 2:25:23Bunnie XO?

  I definitely carry some male traits for sure. I like, sometimes I tell everybody in this life, I'm like, I'm so glad I wasn't born a male because I would have already gone to jail for murder.

• 2:25:31Speaker 05

  Ditto over here.

• 2:25:33Bunnie XO?

  Like I swear to God, I'm like, thank God.

• 2:25:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know, it's hard, but we go in and out, we carry because we're spirit, which is neither nor, we just are. And you come in, but in this life, you wanted to ground into female. So that's what you're doing. That also has a lot to do with the way that you choose to show up as a female in a physical sense. So you chose your look as a female and that's, that just like I did, just like you two did. We choose our look and we choose to come into the world to express it in a certain way. Some women are making a statement in a different way, you know, like they're choosing to dress however it is they're dressing or not dressing. So you chose it. So it's to ground into that. For you. So you're doing it. Like you're saying, I am female this time. There's no confusing it with you.

• 2:26:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Oh, no, I'm all woman, baby. I'm all woman, baby.

• 2:26:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:26:18Bunnie XO?

  So I wanted to ask you, I know everybody asks you about like the P. Diddy's, the OJ Simpsons, the all that jazz and stuff like that.

• 2:26:24Speaker 05

  By OJ.

• 2:26:25Bunnie XO?

  I know.

• 2:26:26Speaker 05

  See you in hell.

• 2:26:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, like you're careless about that dude. But I want to know about like a couple of other.

• 2:26:32Speaker 05

  Throw them at me.

• 2:26:32Bunnie XO?

  Okay. Princess Diana.

• 2:26:34Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh, Princess Diana.

• 2:26:36Bunnie XO?

  I feel such a connection with her.

• 2:26:37Speaker 05

  She was very publicly, she had a very, what that is, is that's a very big aura that comes out because she was a public person. So she has to be able to connect with the public, one would hope. She was one of the first videos I did on my channel. She was very much, and I can't remember everything I said, but she's the one that showed me that they trafficked children. She 100% knew about it. I don't feel she's reincarnated. I know some people think she has. I feel like she's in a dimension where she's actually doing work to help people understand that here. Now, where I got confused with it, because I liked Princess Diana, but then I don't like what these people do. Because to be born into that family, there's a certain ritual that goes on with those people.

• 2:27:22Speaker 05

  I'm Canada, I grew up around the Queen, you know, we hear our nonsense over there. Queen Lizard. Okay, I said it.

• 2:27:30Speaker 05

  I had to say it.

• 2:27:30Bunnie XO?

  She's, something was off about her.

• 2:27:32Speaker 05

  Very off, yeah. But Princess Diana, some.

• 2:27:35Bunnie XO?

  Charles.

• 2:27:36Speaker 05

  I can't.

• 2:27:37Bunnie XO?

  He's the evil.

• 2:27:38Speaker 05

  I, thank you.

• 2:27:39Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 2:27:40Speaker 05

  All the indigenous kids in Canada, they flew over to Kamloops and they just found the bodies this year. When I used to talk about it as a kid, I was called crazy and called crazy before COVID for saying it. I said, that Queen took those kids and did whatever she did. And they found those bodies from those schools. They did find them in 2022, I think, or 2021, whatever it was, but you can look it up.

• 2:27:59Bunnie XO?

  Prince Philip, I've always gotten evil vibes from him. Just demonic.

• 2:28:03Speaker 05

  They are demonic. They sell out. Who, okay, just think about it. We are free souls and we come into this life and we have. These people that say they're royalty. Why, why, I'm sorry, I just because I'm born here in captivity. I actually believe that in captivity to them. Why do I have to listen to you? They steal everyone's money. They don't do anything. I mean, why do I care what they do? Who are they?

• 2:28:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:25Speaker 05

  You know, I mean, they still, the queen, the queen of England still owns all the land in Canada. We have like leases on our property, allegedly, according to paperwork. Like, no one knows that. But if you go research it.

• 2:28:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:35Speaker 05

  She made sure, because we're still in the British. I'm like, no, I hated, I was kicked out of school for refusing to sing. God save the queen. Eighth grade, boom, out.

• 2:28:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:44Speaker 05

  I hated her. Face to face.

• 2:28:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, nothing ever, I've never seen her really just like, I don't know, you can just look at people and, and tell if like their soul is like glittery.

• 2:28:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, no, no.

• 2:28:56Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 2:28:56Speaker 05

  She's not, but it's indoctrination. She did a lot of interesting things in her life as far as like the history and things that she did.

• 2:29:03Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 2:29:04Speaker 05

  But it's for a reason. Now Princess Di showed me specifically showed me maps. And I did not know this. I'm talking in 2018, I did the video with her November. She talked about the children being trafficked. Always brown skin babies and she's the one that said that. That's why I said it. I had no idea. So she's somewhere helping. I think actually helping expose it because I had no, and you know how I got her? I didn't care to channel her or not. She wasn't on my list. I was going through Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington. That was on my list.

• 2:29:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:29:34Speaker 05

  But I was hiking with this guy and he was doing makeup for her best friend.

• 2:29:40Bunnie XO?

  Oh, wow.

• 2:29:40Speaker 05

  And so he was talking about her and it flipped into my head. And then I went home and thought, I'll do a video on her. You know, it was here nor there. It's just who I feel like doing and maybe I get it right. Maybe I don't. But she was very invested in that and she actually, honestly, she was, okay, I'm going to say the word sacrifice, but she didn't. Oh, God, please. But she was taken out.

• 2:30:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 2:30:01Speaker 05

  She was absolutely murdered. And I remember, I remember going to pavilions in Burbank the day she died. I remember hearing it on the radio going, what? It just didn't sit right. And I mean, It was a lie and they set the driver up too. They set everybody up like it was a payoff. The other thing that I got from her, which I don't think I've read anywhere, but it was on the video I did is that Doty Al Fayed's father, so Mohammed Al Fayed, the Herod's owner, who she was engaged to at the time, he was actually there. I didn't know this, but when I channeled her, he was actually there when she was tested. What kind of people look up your hoo-ha to test if you're, get out of here.

• 2:30:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:39Speaker 05

  But you know, oh, they're just British, I heard. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's abuse.

• 2:30:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:44Speaker 05

  Hello. But his father was there. So somehow, some way, there was a deal made with them back then. And I think they crossed him out of it. And that's why he, obviously his son died. I understand that pain, but he was so flipped out because I don't think he thought it was gonna happen because he had their word is what I got from that video.

• 2:31:03Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 2:31:04Speaker 05

  So they double crossed him too. And I don't think I ever heard him say he was there, but I saw him when I was doing that. Saw the Queen Mother. I saw Diana's father. I saw the Queen and I saw Doty's father, like in, just when I was like focusing on it.

• 2:31:18Bunnie XO?

  Do you think Charles is gonna cross over soon?

• 2:31:20Speaker 05

  I can't believe he hasn't. I mean, I can't believe that that's him in that body. I can't believe that Kate is missing.

• 2:31:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:27Speaker 05

  She's missing. Like, I don't care what they say, she's not there. Uh, I feel-

• 2:31:31Bunnie XO?

  Even though she just did a video, she just dropped a video, um, talking about how she has cancer.

• 2:31:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, okay.

• 2:31:39Speaker 05

  I'm a basketball player.

• 2:31:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:41Speaker 05

  And I'm also six foot five.

• 2:31:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:44Speaker 05

  Can't you tell? You know, I'm huge. Uh, no, I don't, I, no, I, I actually, problem is when you play with gangsters, they take you out like gangsters. So I'm just gonna word it. So they're spiritual gangsters in a way and not in a good way. They are, it's the same as MS-13. They're just like that, but they put on a different hat and call themselves monarchy.

• 2:32:05Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 2:32:05Speaker 05

  I think they took her out. I can't prove it. I sound crazy, but that's what I think. And I don't think, I, I said first when Charles got in, he wasn't gonna make it like, I mean, is that even him or are they putting a corpse up there?

• 2:32:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I mean, he, the dude looks like he has fucking got two legs in the coffin already.

• 2:32:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, he does. His hands freak me out.

• 2:32:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, his eyes.

• 2:32:23Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:32:23Bunnie XO?

  If you just look at his eyes, they're weird.

• 2:32:25Speaker 05

  It's very weird and he, I'm not gonna say it. Shut up.

• 2:32:29Bunnie XO?

  Say it.

• 2:32:30Speaker 05

  It's fucking white.

• 2:32:32Bunnie XO?

  Camilla, the side bitch?

• 2:32:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know. Apparently, they had a kid and I kind of feel like that's true. I feel like she had a child. Like, they say she had a child and I feel like she did and gave it up for adoption.

• 2:32:43Bunnie XO?

  Maybe.

• 2:32:44Speaker 05

  Some guy in Australia says he is. Now, he could be crazy.

• 2:32:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:32:48Speaker 05

  Could be cray cray.

• 2:32:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:32:50Speaker 05

  But I kind of feel like that might be his attachment to her because when you have a-

• 2:32:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, they had some weird attachment.

• 2:32:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, when you have a baby, though, with somebody and let's say you have to give it up, how do you not think about that?

• 2:32:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:32:59Speaker 05

  You know, but I, I don't like her shenanigans and games, so.

• 2:33:02Bunnie XO?

  I've never liked her. I think any woman that can, um, do what she did to a family-

• 2:33:07Speaker 05

  It's horrific.

• 2:33:07Bunnie XO?

  And then marry into the family and expect everybody to call her the queen is just crazy.

• 2:33:12Speaker 05

  Is insane.

• 2:33:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Um, alright, so moving on from them.

• 2:33:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:33:16Bunnie XO?

  Marilyn Monroe.

• 2:33:17Speaker 05

  Oh, God, I do have a Marilyn Monroe. Okay.

• 2:33:19Bunnie XO?

  Do you?

• 2:33:20Speaker 05

  I do.

• 2:33:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:20Speaker 05

  Years ago, I wrote something when I was doing, you know, blogs on like my specy stuff.

• 2:33:25Bunnie XO?

  I used to have a blog.

• 2:33:26Speaker 05

  Okay, yeah.

• 2:33:26Bunnie XO?

  That's how I started out.

• 2:33:27Speaker 05

  Okay, there you go. I wrote-

• 2:33:29Bunnie XO?

  Confessions of a White Trash Wife.

• 2:33:31Speaker 05

  Oh, nice. Yeah, you're not white trash, but nice.

• 2:33:35Bunnie XO?

  I mean, I came from it, so.

• 2:33:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, so they say, but is anybody trash? Not really. Um, we're all, we're all gods, I feel. You know, even those that are acting nonsense. Anyway, I, I was thinking about Marilyn Monroe. Who doesn't love Marilyn? Fucking love Marilyn.

• 2:33:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:48Speaker 05

  And yes, they murdered her. I've been saying that since I was 10. I don't care. They did.

• 2:33:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:53Speaker 05

  And it's obvious. No one swallows 50 pills without water.

• 2:33:56Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 2:33:56Speaker 05

  If you've ever tried to swallow aspirin, not 50 of them.

• 2:33:59Bunnie XO?

  I can. I'll choke.

• 2:34:00Speaker 05

  No, they hot shot it, or obviously, in my opinion. Okay, so I was channeling and I wrote this thing. And people thought I was talking about myself. I wasn't. I said, I felt like Marilyn was born, again, in Canada. Okay, like, for, for real. And I felt like she was in entertainment. And I said something like, I felt like she was a musician and she had two kids. Or I said entertainment, possibly music, something. I can't remember exactly what I said. So this woman reaches out to me. I said, she's incarnated back down. It's hard because psychics can feel them on the other side and here because we are both here and there. So like when someone dies here, we don't physically see them, but they are here and there. So part of them is here. We only bring a part down with us and reside over there.

• 2:34:42Speaker 05

  So they say, anyway, that's how I feel about it. But this woman calls me and she's like, I'm Marilyn. And I'm like, oh God, the crazies are out. Anyway, her name was, uh, is Sherri Lee Laird. She was born in Scotland and actually interviewed for being Marilyn Monroe. She had the dreams, the memories, the visions. She's a musician from Toronto. She's slightly younger than me, like born in 67, I think, and has two kids. And she, I mean, they say it's her. And when you look at the research, it looks like it's her. But I felt Marilyn had reincarnated back almost immediately. Yeah. She was like, I'm coming back. Yeah. I, I felt like that. Well, they took her out. That's a problem with murder. You get murdered and they want to come back because they have to complete. So they either have to wait however

• 2:35:24Speaker 05

  many life cycles. You may, you know, I may die, you may die. We might not choose to come back in with whoever we're with now. We might go somewhere else. We always say we will, but when we get over there, we make stupid decisions like being kidnapped over here. But like who chooses certain things? And, and I think our lives are very faded as opposed to free will. We have free will in how we respond, but nothing about what happens to us is free will. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Because if somebody starts a war over there and your family lives over there, that they weren't supposed to start because of their free will. Now I'm in the midst of their free will. So now I'm on a different path, you see? So I don't quite understand it and I don't pretend to understand

• 2:36:06Speaker 05

  it and I don't have all the answers. But with Marilyn, I think she incarnated back. And I really do believe that woman is her. Like when I look at her, I get the distinct feeling that it is her. Yeah. So you should look her up. I will. I will definitely. It's an interesting thing. I mean, we all want to run around and look like different versions of Marilyn, don't we? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we love Marilyn. She's the cutest.

• 2:36:26Bunnie XO?

  Um, well, Sloan, is there anything you want to promote while you're here?

• 2:36:29Speaker 05

  And oh, my God, just the fact that I got dressed and showered.

• 2:36:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. What do you do? Do you have any projects?

• 2:36:35Speaker 05

  I do. I, I, well, they're projects. I have to get a team. My young friend says I need a team.

• 2:36:41Bunnie XO?

  That's what you have to. You gotta get people who believe in you.

• 2:36:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, I have to have a team because it's so hard to even answer all the emails. But I'm back to my client. I still read clients day in and day out. One thing I would like to say on your podcast, because more people will listen. My calendar is not booked out for a year. I only book two weeks at a time because I don't want to be obligated to the reading if I change my mind because I'm ADD.

• 2:37:04Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 2:37:04Speaker 05

  As I'm staring at the mic cross-eyed, but I'm ADD. So people always go, oh, your book for a year? No, I'm not. I would never do that. That's ridiculous.

• 2:37:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:37:13Speaker 05

  I mean, I know people do it. They say they're sold out. I refuse to let my calendar get like that.

• 2:37:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that would be.

• 2:37:18Speaker 05

  I couldn't. Can you imagine?

• 2:37:20Bunnie XO?

  No, I don't even like, I have to plan a week in advance.

• 2:37:23Speaker 05

  That's it because you could change.

• 2:37:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm telling my team. I'm like, talk to me. Let's get through this and talk to me about the next week after.

• 2:37:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, because I can't do it. And if I have to set up readings and then you cancel and I have to send your money back back then, six months. What? Yeah. Um, but the projects I hope to start this year. I am fit. I did finish my astrology book, Beginner Astrology, so I'll be doing the courses with that. And I have to film those videos. When I get back, that's what I'm doing to correspond with the book. It's like a astrology for dummies, for lack of a better word.

• 2:37:52Bunnie XO?

  I love that. People need it. Do you know how many people ask me all the time to how to read a birth chart? And birth chart? And I'm like, I, I'm not your girl.

• 2:37:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:37:59Bunnie XO?

  Sloan's your girl.

• 2:38:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm not your girl. Well, this book tells you step by step, like, what is your sun, moon and rising? Because a lot of people don't even know how to find that. I get that all the time. And it's your birth time. And no, you can't just make up a time to make it. I'm like, stop that. Well, I don't know my time, but get out of here. No. So you can do sun on the ascendant and you can rectify a chart, but that's a lot of skill. So you have to really want to, and you have to do it by the deaths of people and injuries and illness and moves and things like that. And then figure out what was happening. So you work backwards. And there's only very few practitioners that can do that, honestly. You know, like that. But anyway, that's coming out and I want to start. This is just my goal in the next year is to start my grief project, which is connecting with all of the people whose children have passed, but I want to do it from the perspective of.

• 2:38:46Speaker 05

  The children, okay, the siblings that are left behind and the backstories of the people and how you handle the grief. Because I know I handled it so much differently, even than John. I'm, I was very, I was very public with Keith. It was the most public thing I've ever done. I couldn't shut up. It was weird. Other people get drunk and high. Other people shut right down and never come out of their house. You know, so everybody handles it different. And I also really want to tell people what to say to people. Cause they say dumb shit like, and I'll just say this now. God doesn't give you anything you can't handle. Well, bitch, I can't handle this. So, you know, like, don't say that to somebody.

• 2:39:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's grieving or just lost their child.

• 2:39:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, you can't handle, who can handle, let's.

• 2:39:32Bunnie XO?

  It's like somebody having a panic attack and telling them to calm down.

• 2:39:34Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, you can't, you can't calm down.

• 2:39:36Bunnie XO?

  Like, what do you mean? I'd love to.

• 2:39:38Speaker 05

  I'd love to.

• 2:39:38Bunnie XO?

  Teach me how.

• 2:39:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, I can't. I think I'm gonna die and you poison me. And then hit my underwear, go into the hospital. Running for mad dash.

• 2:39:46Bunnie XO?

  Exactly.

• 2:39:47Speaker 05

  But that's, that's one of the projects. So I just call it my grief project. And I've met so many people that are interested. So that's, and just doing my work, I mean, you know, just doing my, I still read people day in and day out, like usual. It's just like a hairdresser. I get up and go to work and just cut hair in a different way.

• 2:40:04Bunnie XO?

  Where can people book with you?

• 2:40:06Speaker 05

  When my calendar's open, they can. They book on my website, sloanbella.com, which we are redoing right now because it keeps crashing because the fraudsters are out. You know how they try to fraud in on your, so, well, maybe not.

• 2:40:19Bunnie XO?

  Had that done yet, but goodness.

• 2:40:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, they try to buy like $20,000 worth of something and then they jam it with little fake credit cards and then it, yeah, they do it all the time. They do it to my site all the time. Yeah. So they, all the, all the companies that take the money have checks and balances. So it ends up shutting your website down. But they still do it. Like it, they'll try it 160 times in a row.

• 2:40:41Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy.

• 2:40:42Speaker 05

  Does that, like, who's got that kind of time?

• 2:40:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's wild.

• 2:40:44Speaker 05

  It's bots. I think it's bots, they say. But yeah, that's what I'm doing. That's the project I'm doing. Yes.

• 2:40:50Bunnie XO?

  Sloan, I am so happy that we got to sit here.

• 2:40:52Speaker 05

  So happy to.

• 2:40:53Bunnie XO?

  That was like, what, a two and a half hour podcast?

• 2:40:56Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 2:40:57Bunnie XO?

  Oh my god.

• 2:40:57Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 2:40:58Bunnie XO?

  We should.

• 2:40:59Speaker 05

  How great.

• 2:41:00Bunnie XO?

  We might have to do part one and two.

• 2:41:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:41:03Bunnie XO?

  Oh my goodness.

• 2:41:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm so happy to meet you.

• 2:41:05Bunnie XO?

  I could sit here and talk to you.

• 2:41:07Speaker 05

  Ever.

• 2:41:08Bunnie XO?

  Dude, I could sit here and talk to you for hours. And I told my husband last night, I said, this woman is going to be a lifelong friend.

• 2:41:13Speaker 05

  Oh, good. I'm glad.

• 2:41:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:41:15Speaker 05

  I'm so glad. I'm so glad because I was so excited. Um, my PR girl, she was like, here's a list of what you, what do you want to do? Well, actually she tracked me down and bugged me. I didn't bug her. She was bugging me. You heard that right, Mary. She was bugging.

• 2:41:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:41:29Speaker 05

  And, um,

• 2:41:29Bunnie XO?

  Mary bug with her 10, 10 text messages a day?

• 2:41:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:41:32Bunnie XO?

  And voice messages?

• 2:41:34Speaker 05

  She was bugging me and I'm like, I don't want to do anything. I want to go hiking and that's it. And then I looked at the list and then yours was there. I'm like, okay, if you can get me on Bunny, I'll do it.

• 2:41:46Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 2:41:46Speaker 05

  That's how she won me over.

• 2:41:47Bunnie XO?

  Yay.

• 2:41:48Speaker 05

  I'm like, I don't care.

• 2:41:49Bunnie XO?

  Thank you.

• 2:41:50Speaker 05

  Then she called me and she's like, crazy. I just got you on Bunny. I'm like, shut the door.

• 2:41:55Bunnie XO?

  She was like, would you have Sloan Bella on the podcast? I said, I would absolutely fucking love to.

• 2:41:59Speaker 05

  Oh, it was so great. I was like, I'm a huge fan. I was so excited. I was like, I'm so excited. And so now Mary's part of my team.

• 2:42:06Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yay. Go Mary.

• 2:42:09Speaker 05

  She worked her way in. But yeah, it was so great. Yeah. She sent out of everybody. She's like, this one, I'm like, this one.

• 2:42:16Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I appreciate you so much.

• 2:42:18Speaker 05

  You remind me of just things that I experienced and you use your, your experience for good, which I freaking love. And you're not ashamed of what you did. I have fought that. Like people are like, lower your voice. You have kids. I'm like, my kids know who the hell I am.

• 2:42:32Bunnie XO?

  Like,

• 2:42:32Speaker 05

  how do you think they don't know who I am?

• 2:42:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:42:34Speaker 05

  You know, that everybody knows who I am. And so I was so excited.

• 2:42:38Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I'm so happy. Thank you so much, Sloan. And why don't you shout out your IG and your TikTok and everything?

• 2:42:43Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. It's all under at Sloan Bella. Any other version of my name is not me. Numbers in front of it, underscore, you know, I don't ask for money, just so we're very clear. Do not do that. You do not have a curse on you.

• 2:42:59Speaker 05

  No one can take it off with money if you do.

• 2:43:01Bunnie XO?

  Oh my goodness.

• 2:43:02Speaker 05

  It's a lifelong thing and you have to do it through your actions.

• 2:43:05Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 2:43:05Speaker 05

  You know.

• 2:43:06Bunnie XO?

  It's karmic.

• 2:43:06Speaker 05

  Yes, it's karmic. If it's a curse, it's family patterning through generational behaviors. You have to choose to change the behavior.

• 2:43:14Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 2:43:15Speaker 05

  No one's throwing. Do you think that orange man bad would be alive if curses worked?

• 2:43:19Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 2:43:20Speaker 05

  Right? Or Bush, or even Obama, any of them?

• 2:43:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:43:23Speaker 05

  Anybody, whoever, pick one. They would not be alive.

• 2:43:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:43:26Speaker 05

  Do you know how many people are out spellcasting against those people all day long?

• 2:43:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:43:30Speaker 05

  Hundreds of thousands, I'm sure. There's an underground community out there doing it.

• 2:43:34Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 2:43:35Speaker 05

  So they're not really that effective. You can do it, but it's manipulation of energy. So it always goes back to you.

• 2:43:41Bunnie XO?

  Tenfold.

• 2:43:42Speaker 05

  Oh my God.

• 2:43:43Bunnie XO?

  That's why I always say return to sender.

• 2:43:45Speaker 05

  That's what I do. I give it to God. I actually have, because my temper's so bad sometimes, because I'm a little bit masculine too.

• 2:43:51Bunnie XO?

  I'm the same way. I resort to anger. That's my.

• 2:43:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, I go right to anger.

• 2:43:54Bunnie XO?

  Before love, anything?

• 2:43:55Speaker 05

  No, anger, punching you out. My reaction is fierce like that, like just like, ah.

• 2:43:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:43:59Speaker 05

  And, uh, but I give it to God. I'm saying, please, I can't handle this. So please take it back wherever it came from.

• 2:44:05Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 2:44:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what I do.

• 2:44:07Bunnie XO?

  Well, you're gonna have to come back and visit me.

• 2:44:08Speaker 05

  I'm gonna come back and visit you. It's gonna be so fun. Yeah.

• 2:44:11Bunnie XO?

  Thank you so much.

• 2:44:12Speaker 05

  Thank you for having me.

• 2:44:13Bunnie XO?

  And thank you guys for tuning into another episode of Don Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.

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