TBT: Jeffree Star - The Internet OG

Throwback Thursday Y'all might not be ready for this one. The iconic Jeffree Star drops in this week to talk his truth on everything from the state of social media, how he built an iconic brand from nothing, what really happened to the beauty influencer community, and why he fled from LA to a yak ranch in Wyoming. He talks about what's next in his world domination, from embracing the new generation of TikTok to opening a store that sells makeup and meat. Jeffree Star: Website https://jeffreestarcosmetics.com/ | TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jeffreestar?lang=en| IG https://www.instagram.com/jeffreestar/?hl=en Watch Full Episodes & More: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Dumbblondepod

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on?

• 0:01Speaker 01

  Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dunblom. Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child and here we are.

• 0:16Bunnie XO?

  What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another podcast. Today I have the enigma, the social media enigma, the queen of queens.

• 0:28Speaker 02

  Hi.

• 0:29Bunnie XO?

  Jeffrey Star, baby.

• 0:30Speaker 02

  Thank you for having me.

• 0:31Bunnie XO?

  Dude, this has been a long time coming.

• 0:33Speaker 02

  It really has.

• 0:34Bunnie XO?

  I'm so happy you're here.

• 0:35Speaker 02

  Thank you for having me.

• 0:36Bunnie XO?

  Who the fuck would have known that Montana would bring us together?

• 0:39Speaker 02

  I know. So we're literally in Bozeman, Montana. We're backstage.

• 0:43Bunnie XO?

  In a locker room?

• 0:44Speaker 02

  We are. We're in a locker room. The glory holes are behind me. And we are meeting for the first time today.

• 0:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 0:50Speaker 02

  We've been talking all year.

• 0:52Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 0:52Speaker 02

  And life finally brought us together. So thank you for having me.

• 0:55Bunnie XO?

  And it's crazy because we did have a mutual friend who just passed away. Daniel.

• 0:59Speaker 02

  Yep, rest in peace.

• 1:00Bunnie XO?

  And he fucking loved you so much, dude. He told me he just-

• 1:04Speaker 02

  It's crazy that you met him and I like, and hung out with him for so long and I never met you.

• 1:08Bunnie XO?

  So I never-

• 1:09Speaker 02

  That's crazy to me.

• 1:10Bunnie XO?

  I never got to meet Daniel.

• 1:11Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:11Bunnie XO?

  We were literally online friends for like 10 years.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  Oh my God, I thought you guys partied in Vegas back in the day as well.

• 1:17Bunnie XO?

  Nope, nope, nope. Just what, we grew up around the same circle. He had the same friends I did. Like, we never got to actually meet.

• 1:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:23Bunnie XO?

  But we literally talked all the time online. Like, it was crazy. I just loved that. I loved him, dude. He was just such a good soul.

• 1:30Speaker 02

  His spirit was one of a kind, honestly.

• 1:32Bunnie XO?

  So I just feel like this was like Daniel's doing, possibly, like pushing us together.

• 1:35Speaker 02

  That's beautiful.

• 1:36Bunnie XO?

  I have seen so many podcasts of you and I feel like-

• 1:42Speaker 02

  Did you notice how I was like silent for a long time and then I just, you know, it was like, you know what? It's time to talk.

• 1:46Bunnie XO?

  What, what, what brought that on? Like-

• 1:48Speaker 02

  I think during 2020 and like during the pandemic, like I had such a crazy trajectory. And then the pandemic and so much online drama like exploded.

• 1:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:57Speaker 02

  So I moved to Wyoming. I went to therapy. I really worked on myself. And I was like, you know what? I want to share that journey, not just all the dramatic, chaotic, you know, shit and just makeup stuff, only I wanted to share how I healed.

• 2:12Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 2:13Speaker 02

  And let people see like who I am now, you know? So I started doing podcasts-

• 2:16Bunnie XO?

  The growth is amazing.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  And thank you. And a lot of males fixate on sex every time I'm on their podcast. We all know I'm never gonna fully kiss and tell.

• 2:26Bunnie XO?

  I love that about you because I'm the same way. I was a hooker in Vegas.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  Period.

• 2:30Bunnie XO?

  So I've never gonna kiss and tell the celebrities that fucking.

• 2:33Speaker 02

  What do you get when you put two escorts together?

• 2:37Bunnie XO?

  Jeffrey and Bunny.

• 2:38Speaker 02

  So a lot of people don't know that I used to be the queen of Craigslist in LA.

• 2:42Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  Um, I used to make so much money during the MySpace era.

• 2:46Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah, for sure.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  And then.

• 2:47Bunnie XO?

  So when you say queen of Craigslist, where you mean like putting like ads on there and stuff or like to do?

• 2:52Speaker 02

  Yep. And I, and I recently found some old ads in my old account.

• 2:55Bunnie XO?

  I love.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  Cause I am writing an autobiography finally.

• 2:57Bunnie XO?

  That's brave because Craigslist and Backpage, man, you literally like.

• 3:01Speaker 02

  Oh, I missed Backpage.

• 3:04Bunnie XO?

  You were literally risking your life to be on those. I did Eros. I was an Eros girl.

• 3:08Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 3:08Bunnie XO?

  So I literally would post my ads and then, you know, screen them. And then sometimes I would work for the services in Vegas and stuff like that. But.

• 3:15Speaker 02

  And networking, we're in big cities. So it's like people think like, they think we're like at the, the street corner with no teeth with their thumb out.

• 3:22Bunnie XO?

  There's levels to this shit.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  Levels.

• 3:24Bunnie XO?

  I try to explain that to people all the time and nobody gets it.

• 3:27Speaker 02

  And then you, you start networking and meeting people. So I'm this broke kid. I moved out at 17. I was like, fuck you to my mother.

• 3:33Bunnie XO?

  Let's rewind that really quick.

• 3:34Speaker 02

  Rewind it. Then we'll get to the head and the, and the bottoming.

• 3:38Bunnie XO?

  So I want to rewind it back because you remind me so much of myself. We have been through a lot of shit. We mask it with dirty jokes and.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  And humor.

• 3:49Bunnie XO?

  And humor, very dark humor.

• 3:51Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 3:52Bunnie XO?

  And, you know, going through the stuff that you've gone through, I don't, I'm pretty sure, you know, half of my following probably does know your story, but I'm sure the other half doesn't. And I think that that really is an epic part of your journey because it's showing overcoming.

• 4:08Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 4:09Bunnie XO?

  So.

• 4:09Speaker 02

  We're survivors.

• 4:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, exactly. Yes, for sure. So growing up, you grew up in?

• 4:15Speaker 02

  Orange County, California. So I'm from Huntington Beach, 714.

• 4:18Bunnie XO?

  Yay, I love H B.

• 4:20Speaker 02

  Growing up, like it was just, everyone was like surfing and skating and I just never really felt. Like I fit in. I was very punk rock. I had, I was the first person to have like pink hair dye at my school. And I just tried to break all the barriers without really knowing it. I was just like, well, I'm gonna be me and I'm gonna be myself. Um, and for some reason I got over the part where you care what other people think.

• 4:42Bunnie XO?

  At an early age?

• 4:43Speaker 02

  At an early age, I think, cause my childhood was so chaotic. My parents were drunk my whole life. Um, and that, so people don't know this. Well, some people do, but I've never tried alcohol.

• 4:51Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  And I think people sometimes have a hard time believing that. Cause you know, we all, we always used to post pictures with stuff.

• 4:57Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 4:57Speaker 02

  So there's photos of me with like a whiskey bottle. I'm like, yeah, it's all for show.

• 5:00Bunnie XO?

  Sponsorships too.

• 5:01Speaker 02

  It's literally all for show. So, you know, people always dig things out of the ashes, but I've never tried alcohol. I never will. Uh, my dad died when I was five, so he drank himself to death. He killed himself and he was just really miserable and.

• 5:14Bunnie XO?

  Did he commit suicide or did he die from cirrhosis?

• 5:17Speaker 02

  Uh, it's like a, it's like a tricky line.

• 5:21Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  But suicide.

• 5:22Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 5:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. So he was like on the brink and was like, okay, I'm finally done. So the last time I remember seeing him, his skin was yellow, his eyebrows were falling out. He looked horrific and he grabbed me by the arm and I was five and a half and he was like, please don't ever drink. Like it's ruined our family. And that was my last memory of my dad.

• 5:39Bunnie XO?

  That was his blessing to you?

• 5:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was wild, it was wild. Yeah.

• 5:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, my mom did that to me when she.

• 5:44Speaker 02

  Spiraled and obviously got worse.

• 5:45Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 5:46Speaker 02

  So she would drink, recycle the beer cans to get more alcohol and just had a string of really annoying boyfriends. No one ever like abusive or crazy, but just always fighting. She never fell in love again. She was literally in love with my dad. And it didn't work out cause his, he couldn't stop drinking. That was what ruined the marriage.

• 6:04Bunnie XO?

  What, when you're five years old and your father passes away, how are you feeling? Like, do you remember any of it?

• 6:11Speaker 02

  I do. I remember my mom telling me like a, a week or two after I saw him, she took me to the same park. And she goes, hey, like she tried to explain to me like my dad died and she always likes to say this. I literally like blinked, immediately put all the trauma away and was like, okay, um, could we get some more ice cream?

• 6:32Bunnie XO?

  So you knew just growing up in chaos that it was better to just push it down instead of react?

• 6:37Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 6:38Bunnie XO?

  It had to.

• 6:38Speaker 02

  Which was horrible for me later when all the like emotions and traumas and demons were coming out. And I'm in high school, my whole body's a cutting board.

• 6:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  I'm like fully and like I see, you know, secret one, not like, I want attention, like, you know, it's.

• 6:52Bunnie XO?

  I feel like back in the day, mental health was not talked about.

• 6:55Speaker 02

  No one talked about it.

• 6:55Bunnie XO?

  Like how it is now.

• 6:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. And in cookie cutter, Orange County, no one was talking about feelings.

• 7:00Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 7:01Speaker 02

  It's like, get the fuck over it. You know, everyone's, all the husbands are cheating on the wives, all the, you know, everyone's getting beat. All these crazy things are happening and it's just swept under the rug and it's like the real housewives of Orange County.

• 7:11Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely. Yeah, I know. It really is. The West Coast is a different beast. People don't understand that unless you've grown up on the West Coast. It's completely different way of thinking and way of living as like, you know, fucking Montana or fucking Wyoming.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  So I didn't untrain this behavior until probably like six years ago.

• 7:28Bunnie XO?

  When you were cutting, was that your way of just kind of like relieving the pain and did your mom know?

• 7:34Speaker 02

  She didn't know for years and then I slipped up and got comfortable and she saw it for the first time.

• 7:41Bunnie XO?

  Was it on your arms? Is that why?

• 7:43Speaker 02

  It was everywhere, but I would wear like heavy clothes all the time. It would be 90 degrees, but I was Gothic and my style was very punk rock. So no one ever questioned it.

• 7:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 7:53Speaker 02

  You know, it would be like, I would, I had photography class and I would go in the dark room and cut my legs and then come back out and no one ever knew, like crazy stuff like that.

• 8:00Bunnie XO?

  You're just hurting so bad.

• 8:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I felt like it helped me feel a little bit because I felt so numb and like dead inside, but I never wanted to kill myself.

• 8:10Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 8:10Speaker 02

  I never had thoughts.

• 8:11Bunnie XO?

  Well, because your dad passed away that way. So possibly that was like.

• 8:16Speaker 02

  So I never had the thoughts of like, I want to end my life, but I was doing it to just feel something.

• 8:21Bunnie XO?

  Right. I understand that.

• 8:22Speaker 02

  And then it became like an addiction.

• 8:25Bunnie XO?

  Well, you get addicted to the pain because it's the only time that you actually.

• 8:28Speaker 02

  It was really fucked up is I was also addicted to the watching it heal.

• 8:34Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  It was like a, yeah. Hi, nice to meet you.

• 8:38Bunnie XO?

  Don't start joking.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  No, yeah, it was, it was really like, yeah, it was that serious.

• 8:44Bunnie XO?

  That's so much trauma to go through at such a young age. When did you start cutting?

• 8:48Speaker 02

  I would say like ninth grade and then I stopped when I graduated high school. And I broke away, but my mom did catch me. So we're in this little apartment. And she always made me do chores, single mother, only child, and I'm a Scorpio. It's a lot there.

• 9:03Bunnie XO?

  I think you might have a lot of Capricorn.

• 9:06Bunnie XO?

  Cap and Sag.

• 9:07Speaker 02

  A lot of Sag.

• 9:07Bunnie XO?

  I want to do your birth chart. Have you done your birth chart? What is it?

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Stunning. I'll show you later.

• 9:13Bunnie XO?

  He's like, I'm not showing anybody online.

• 9:15Speaker 02

  It's stunning. Um, so she caught me when I was doing the dishes. She always made me do chores and clean the bathroom and have manners and la la la. And I was a straight A student. She said, you can look however you want, do whatever you want, dye your hair pink, red, black, do extensions. I shaved off my eyebrows in 10th grade. No one was doing that.

• 9:30Bunnie XO?

  At all?

• 9:30Speaker 02

  It was like horror and shock.

• 9:33Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 9:34Speaker 02

  And.

• 9:35Bunnie XO?

  Like a pioneer of sorts.

• 9:36Speaker 02

  It was crazy. And she caught me one day when I was doing the dishes and I wasn't wearing long sleeves and she came home from work early. And when you've been doing it for so long. So she caught me and she saw the side of the arm. I'll never forget it.

• 9:49Bunnie XO?

  What did she say?

• 9:50Speaker 02

  I mean, you know, mo- most parents don't fully know how to articulate it because they immediately go to, he wants to die. And it's like, you know? And she is a fucking train wreck. So you are bitch.

• 10:00Bunnie XO?

  So was my mom. Trust me, I get it.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. So it was rough and we never gelled. So I'm seventeen and a half. I graduate high school early. I'm out. I'm going to LA. And by then I had been going to a lot of shows. I was seventeen with the fake ID, going to the key club, the whiskey on sunset.

• 10:20Bunnie XO?

  I was at the Rio and fucking pinkies and all that shit.

• 10:23Speaker 02

  So much makeup. No one really knew how old I, like, they couldn't tell if I was sixteen or thirty, you know?

• 10:29Bunnie XO?

  Let's dial it back real quick before you left home because didn't, wasn't one of your first sexual experiences at twelve?

• 10:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:36Bunnie XO?

  I mean, how do you even know to have sex at twelve?

• 10:39Speaker 02

  Oh my god. Um, I don't know. It just naturally happened. And I think boys are really curious, but men don't like to talk about this stuff.

• 10:46Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 10:47Speaker 02

  So when you're in like ninth, well, this is eighth grade for me.

• 10:50Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  So let's dial it back to eighth grade.

• 10:52Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 10:52Speaker 02

  Me and this guy Jeff in the football team and a foreign exchange student.

• 10:57Bunnie XO?

  Not another Jeff.

• 10:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. So the first guy I ever blew had the same name as me.

• 11:00Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 11:01Speaker 02

  Life.

• 11:02Bunnie XO?

  So you were already feeling that you were into boys.

• 11:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, so eighth grade was the first experience. Fifth grade was when I was like, oh, like, OK, girls are attractive, but I'm more attracted to men.

• 11:14Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  And yes, I've slept with both. I love everyone, but I prefer men.

• 11:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 11:19Speaker 02

  Um, but I love everyone.

• 11:20Bunnie XO?

  I loved boys in makeup. Boy George was my first crush.

• 11:23Speaker 02

  Hate it. Love Boy George, but I am not attracted to men in makeup.

• 11:28Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 11:29Speaker 02

  I don't like femininity.

• 11:30Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 11:30Speaker 02

  I like a fucking man.

• 11:32Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 11:33Speaker 02

  So if someone looked like me, it's the biggest turn off.

• 11:36Bunnie XO?

  Right, well, yeah. I wouldn't want to fuck somebody who looked like me either, so I get it.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  But like, I'm not into glam boys, I'm not into femininity, but I love a bad bitch. Like, you're fucking hot.

• 11:47Bunnie XO?

  I love you.

• 11:47Speaker 02

  But I don't like a guy in makeup.

• 11:49Bunnie XO?

  Right. But you know what? My dad was a musician and he had long black hair and he played in the band and he had, you know, so I've always been attracted to the emo boys, you know, the Chris Motionless and the.

• 12:01Speaker 02

  Yep. He was just in Wyoming.

• 12:03Bunnie XO?

  Shit like that, so I know.

• 12:05Speaker 02

  I can't. We're talking about that later.

• 12:08Bunnie XO?

  We can, but we'll have to bleep his name out.

• 12:10Speaker 02

  No eyeliner, like, nice body, tattoos, whatever.

• 12:15Bunnie XO?

  Sports guys, right? Or no?

• 12:17Speaker 02

  Nowadays, but in the Warped Tour days, it was like country boys and like scene boys, the MySpace, you know.

• 12:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 12:24Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh. So many flashbacks.

• 12:26Bunnie XO?

  Dial in bag.

• 12:27Speaker 02

  We're in eighth grade, I'm ready to swallow.

• 12:29Bunnie XO?

  Fifth.

• 12:32Bunnie XO?

  OK, fifth grade, you were already attracted to boys and then eighth grade.

• 12:37Speaker 02

  And I already looked different, where in fifth grade was the first time I was called a gay lord and a faggot.

• 12:43Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 12:44Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 12:45Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 12:46Speaker 02

  Oh, absolutely. It was, it was this era of nineties where like the guys wanted to be like gangster and wear baggy flannel and these huge Tommy Hilfiger.

• 12:56Bunnie XO?

  All I dated was gangsters.

• 12:57Speaker 02

  And I was more like little button up, boy scout, like tight cut, military haircut, because my grandparents raised me while my mom was getting sober.

• 13:06Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 13:06Speaker 02

  So she got sober when I was in high school, finally.

• 13:08Bunnie XO?

  Oh, good.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  Thank God, and she's been sober since.

• 13:10Bunnie XO?

  Yay, mom.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  Congratulations to her, twenty-three years. Let's go.

• 13:13Bunnie XO?

  Let's fucking go.

• 13:15Speaker 02

  But, yeah, it was.

• 13:17Bunnie XO?

  So twelve years old, you and Jeff hook up and it turned into a threesome, right?

• 13:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, so my first like real experience with a guy was with two guys.

• 13:26Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 13:27Speaker 02

  And while I've been writing my book, I've been told by the guy that's writing with me.

• 13:32Bunnie XO?

  Which by the way, I love Neil Strauss.

• 13:34Speaker 02

  He's a genius.

• 13:34Bunnie XO?

  Don't fuck around, like, love him.

• 13:36Speaker 02

  So he definitely let me analyze myself very deeply with this. And he's like, everything you do without you knowing it is extreme. And I was like, huh, and that hit me hard in a good way. But it's like everything I do, like, oh, I bought some land. Now it's the biggest yak ranch in America and I'm in seven restaurants. I can't just like let things be.

• 13:54Bunnie XO?

  Right, well, you came from nothing and I'm literally, I'm a money hoarder. Literally, I have so much shit around, like, it's crazy. Once you, when you come from nothing, you want everything.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  We both turned dirt into diamonds.

• 14:07Bunnie XO?

  Literally, and you're never happy, like, it's, once you reach one goal, it's the next goal, it's the next goal, it's the next goal.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Okay, good, you understand.

• 14:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, totally. I have a lot of Capricorn in me though, too, so I'm like, I never give up. I'm literally just always going. Um, so moving on, after your first threesome, take me on that journey. You're seventeen, you've are leaving home, you're going.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  I literally got a U-Haul, and I always had older friends, of course. I hate, I hated immature little kids. Um, so someone.

• 14:35Bunnie XO?

  I was the same way.

• 14:36Speaker 02

  That's it, so they rented me a U-Haul. We pulled up, I said, bye, mom, like, I'm, I'm, I'm out and I.

• 14:42Bunnie XO?

  And she just let you go?

• 14:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  I mean, what, what was she gonna do, you know? But it was good, it was really good, but I had to grow up quick.

• 14:49Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 14:50Speaker 02

  So.

• 14:50Bunnie XO?

  Especially on the streets of Hollywood.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  So my birthday is in November, so then I turn, school's over in, in June, July. So I'm doing like little freelance makeup jobs, barely making it by, and I'm sleeping on someone's couch. She works at MAC makeup. She was like, you're eighteen now, like, you need to work at MAC, your, your makeup's so fierce, like, hello. And she was way older than me, so she got me the in, and obviously I sold myself, my first job. So my first job ever was at MAC cosmetics. And now I'm their competitor.

• 15:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, literally. You went in there, took all their tips and tricks.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  I'm a MAC alumni, I have, I have Ruby Woo lipstick tattooed on my arm, I'm a MAC alumni forever, like, and I, and I still wear their, their powder, I love it.

• 15:32Bunnie XO?

  I could totally picture you being at MAC, too.

• 15:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, highest seller.

• 15:36Bunnie XO?

  I bet.

• 15:36Speaker 02

  But then it already started, everyone already, you know, the jealousy, the craziness, the. Then I learned the industry was really catty. It wasn't about the artistry. It was all very competitive and LA was like very cutthroat. And back then, there wasn't a million makeup artists like there is now.

• 15:51Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 15:52Speaker 02

  There was no technology, no phone, no one could even process that. We barely just started having phones, right?

• 15:57Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 15:57Speaker 02

  So there's no-

• 15:58Bunnie XO?

  I had beepers and shit.

• 15:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:59Bunnie XO?

  I'm looking at my, when I look down, I'm looking at my list of notes that I have, so.

• 16:04Speaker 02

  And what were we just saying?

• 16:06Bunnie XO?

  Um, you were talking about Mac.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Come on, hybrid and indica.

• 16:09Bunnie XO?

  He's like squirrel. Um, you were talking about Mac.

• 16:11Speaker 02

  Baby.

• 16:12Bunnie XO?

  And everybody's being a fucking hater.

• 16:14Speaker 02

  We were freelancing, we were going to different locations and I was always had the top sales. It was really fun. And as you meet people in the stores, customers, you start networking. So from day one, my online journey, and by the way, I was already online at this point.

• 16:28Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 16:29Speaker 02

  I was already on these websites that people don't even know exist, like hot or not dot com.

• 16:33Bunnie XO?

  Dude, I loved hot or not.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  Live journal and all these things that people don't even know existed.

• 16:37Bunnie XO?

  No, that was, that was our childhood.

• 16:39Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 16:39Bunnie XO?

  Literally.

• 16:41Speaker 02

  So I would meet people.

• 16:41Bunnie XO?

  Is anyone up dot com?

• 16:42Speaker 02

  Is anyone up? Oh, Jesus.

• 16:44Bunnie XO?

  All those.

• 16:45Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, yes. And all of a sudden, I'm getting clients outside of the store.

• 16:50Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  And I'm doing makeup for music videos, lo-fi, Z-list movies that no one's ever heard of. And then I meet this girl and she started, I start working for Hustler. I started doing makeup for porn.

• 17:02Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  At nineteen. So I would just started networking and just making as much money as I could. But for the lifestyle I knew I was meant for, it wasn't enough.

• 17:12Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 17:12Speaker 02

  So that's when someone introduced, of course, I did some girls makeup. She was about to go turn a trick, didn't know it. And she's like, oh, baby, the guys would love you.

• 17:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  I'll never forget her saying that line. And I was like, what do you mean? And she's like, this and this. And I was like, I can't. Like, I didn't even fully understand. A lot of men have fantasies, la la la. So I'm ignorant. Bitch, she sold me out in a good way.

• 17:37Bunnie XO?

  She turned you out.

• 17:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  She got her 10%.

• 17:40Bunnie XO?

  We love that.

• 17:41Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. So I started the journey of hustling and doing sex work, which I haven't really talked about much.

• 17:48Bunnie XO?

  I think it's important for people to know that. I'm so-

• 17:50Speaker 02

  And I'm never ashamed.

• 17:51Bunnie XO?

  Ever. I feel like people think that we should be ashamed for what we had to do to survive. And I'm never gonna fucking apologize.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  Even though I'm at this stage in my life, I sometimes still wish I could do it.

• 18:04Bunnie XO?

  It was so, it was a different time. Where like if you wanted to wake up and make X amount of dollars, you could.

• 18:12Bunnie XO?

  That or even a sugar daddy. Have a sugar daddy who just fucking gave you.

• 18:15Speaker 02

  I even had ones online that I never met. So people were like, okay, you're on MySpace. How did you, people would send me high powered cameras. I didn't know that existed. Teach myself everything. So I was one of the first people to do a vlog. Me and Paris Hilton were the first ones to ever make money off of being a social media star. So I coined internet, um, an internet celebrity.

• 18:37Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely. I remember the first time I saw you was MySpace. It was you, forbidden.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Rest in peace.

• 18:44Bunnie XO?

  I know. How sad.

• 18:45Speaker 02

  And Tila Tequila.

• 18:46Bunnie XO?

  Tila Tequila, where the fuck is she?

• 18:47Speaker 02

  And I'm the last one standing bitch.

• 18:49Bunnie XO?

  And normal somewhat.

• 18:50Speaker 02

  That's it. Oh, my.

• 18:52Bunnie XO?

  You haven't lost your mind.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  Miss Tequila's crazy.

• 18:54Bunnie XO?

  I know.

• 18:55Speaker 02

  Forbidden could never escape not being a star anymore. And God bless her, um, addiction, alcohol. That's literally like in Orange County's culture. I hate it.

• 19:04Bunnie XO?

  No, it's so sad because she was such a beautiful woman, but Tila, I don't know what the fuck happened. I think she had an aneurysm and just never got right after that, right?

• 19:12Speaker 02

  I have no idea.

• 19:14Bunnie XO?

  They say it's the Illuminati, but I'm not sure.

• 19:17Speaker 02

  No, we're not claiming her. No, no, no, no, no. We don't know who that is. She wanted to be a part of the club. No, thank you.

• 19:24Bunnie XO?

  I don't think she made enough money, right? Don't you have to have like a certain amount of money to get into the Illuminati?

• 19:29Speaker 02

  I'm not sure.

• 19:31Bunnie XO?

  Everybody thinks my husband and I are in the Illuminati and I'm like, I'm glad you guys think we have that much money. Like, it's not what it is.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's interesting. It, it, yeah. Life's very interesting.

• 19:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, definitely.

• 19:42Speaker 02

  So I moved to Wyoming and I escaped a lot of things.

• 19:46Bunnie XO?

  Right. So let's dial back, though. You had started, you had started doing sex work. And how long did you do sex work for? Did you use that as like a means to an end while you were doing social media?

• 19:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. Okay. And then like the Warped Tour days really took off and I started doing music.

• 20:04Bunnie XO?

  Yes, I loved Beauty Killer.

• 20:05Speaker 02

  So people forget, thank you, oh my god, that I was obviously a working makeup artist.

• 20:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:10Speaker 02

  And then MySpace and social media really exploded for me.

• 20:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:13Speaker 02

  And I started to all of a sudden have like merchandise and I'm number one in Hot Topic. So I stopped obviously doing makeup on others.

• 20:19Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  People would hire me back in the day like, oh, will you do my wedding? Or like, come to my daughter's birthday party. Like, those days were very fun.

• 20:26Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 20:26Speaker 02

  But then I started doing music.

• 20:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I did music as a joke. I rapped on this Hollywood Undead song a very long time ago.

• 20:34Bunnie XO?

  My husband just did a feature with them.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  Oh, that's awesome.

• 20:36Bunnie XO?

  They're still around and still kicking ass.

• 20:38Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 20:38Bunnie XO?

  Like, love them.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  And the first album, I was supposed to be on it, and then there was drama and they took me off, but the song was already online for free called Turn Off The Lights.

• 20:48Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  And it was massive. I even rerecorded it. Interscope Records and whoever at the time took me off, but the song was already massive online.

• 20:57Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  And it was just very interesting.

• 20:59Bunnie XO?

  Isn't it crazy how record labels work? Like, they're just, they're shady. Yeah, they're shady as fuck.

• 21:04Speaker 02

  Not all, but most.

• 21:05Bunnie XO?

  Not all, but pretty much most of them are. They're just so shady. Um, I feel like Hollywood Undead always had some sort of drama going on. They were, they were fighting each other.

• 21:13Speaker 02

  I know. It was awful.

• 21:14Bunnie XO?

  Sorry, guys, I don't mean to talk shit, but I'm just saying.

• 21:16Speaker 02

  No, it was just crazy.

• 21:17Bunnie XO?

  Back in the day, like they were beefing with each other.

• 21:19Speaker 02

  Worked it out, yeah.

• 21:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, for sure. But let's talk about your music career. I mean, you had like Nicki Minaj as a feature and like, dude, so cool.

• 21:27Speaker 02

  A lot of, I work with a lot of really cool people.

• 21:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 21:30Speaker 02

  I did music, I always say like as a joke, but I actually really enjoyed it. When I did the first rap verse, I freestyled it, wrote it down in 10 minutes. It was very, very crass. And I was like, I want it.

• 21:41Bunnie XO?

  Freestyling right now before the cameras started rolling.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  I even put forbidden in my first verse.

• 21:44Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 21:45Speaker 02

  The first, yeah, ever. It was, yeah, it was, that's so funny. The little last line is, "I watched me eat forbidden's that pussy."

• 21:51Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 21:52Speaker 02

  That's so fucked, but so good. And she loved it, by the way.

• 21:55Bunnie XO?

  I bet, but it's just like.

• 21:56Speaker 02

  And it was, it was crazy. It was vicious. And I was like, I want to be like the obscene, like white little Kim.

• 22:02Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  And that was my shtick. And I penned some wild ass shit.

• 22:06Bunnie XO?

  It was actually really good. I loved, what is the song? Um, Plastic Slumber Party?

• 22:11Speaker 02

  Plastic Surgery Slumber Party.

• 22:13Bunnie XO?

  Love. That was one of my favorite songs.

• 22:14Speaker 02

  And that was very like lofi fun electro MySpace music.

• 22:18Bunnie XO?

  Like Depeche Mode needs like techno. Like it was really cool. Yeah, you had to have been there. It's the best way to describe it.

• 22:24Speaker 02

  And for some reason, because of MySpace and I was already popular for being me and my char-, you know, who, this character.

• 22:31Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  It just got big.

• 22:35Bunnie XO?

  Why don't you pursue music anymore though? Cause you're so good at it. And it seems like it's a passion of yours.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  Been asked this for every time I do an interview.

• 22:43Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 22:44Speaker 02

  And we have definitely been dabbling for fun.

• 22:47Bunnie XO?

  Hmm. Dude, my husband will help you.

• 22:49Speaker 02

  It's really, I love it.

• 22:51Bunnie XO?

  But.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Listen, I, you never know, there may be a little comeback.

• 22:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, do it. Please. I think TikTok needs a Jeffrey Star Trek. It will go fucking.

• 23:02Speaker 02

  I, I even have a new song on my phone.

• 23:05Bunnie XO?

  Uh, can we get a little snippet?

• 23:06Speaker 02

  Later on the bus.

• 23:07Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  So I've been doing it for fun.

• 23:11Bunnie XO?

  I, but you're so good at it. Like, I think that's something that you need to do. And it's also a creative outlet for you.

• 23:17Speaker 02

  It's really cool.

• 23:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  And now that I'm living this Wyoming life and I'm older and my voice is less faggoty. I can say that. Number one faggot right here. Um, my voice is deeper.

• 23:29Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 23:30Speaker 02

  And I really like my voice. And someone came over the other day and we did, I'm not even kidding, you're gonna die. Beauty Killer Acoustic.

• 23:36Bunnie XO?

  Wow, no.

• 23:37Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. And they're like, would you ever perform this before?

• 23:40Bunnie XO?

  Fucking scene kid that grew up with us needs that, dude. You have no idea.

• 23:44Speaker 02

  So when I opened up my retail store, we're jumping 30 years ahead.

• 23:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:47Speaker 02

  I just.

• 23:48Bunnie XO?

  We're just all over the place.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  Opening, I had Yellow Wolf perform.

• 23:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, we love yellow.

• 23:51Speaker 02

  We broke the record of biggest event ever in Casper for downtown. It beat even the eclipse from 2018.

• 23:57Bunnie XO?

  Yay.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  And we've never been on the moon. But anyway, um, that's for, that's for the next 10 minutes. It was epic.

• 24:03Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 24:04Speaker 02

  So I was like, you know what, everyone's you should go perform a song. And I was like, oh, hell no. But then it actually kind of inspired me.

• 24:09Bunnie XO?

  Good. I'm proud of you.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  So you never know what could happen.

• 24:12Bunnie XO?

  You need to do that. Do stuff that makes you set your soul on fire.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:15Bunnie XO?

  You know, I feel like you've done so much shit now for not just you, but for everybody else and to maybe prove points. Because from all the trauma that we have come from.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:24Bunnie XO?

  We're always proving a point.

• 24:25Speaker 02

  We are.

• 24:26Bunnie XO?

  And I feel like.

• 24:27Speaker 02

  Thank God she knows that.

• 24:28Bunnie XO?

  I feel like music for you is therapeutic.

• 24:31Speaker 02

  It is actually.

• 24:32Bunnie XO?

  And I also feel like it's something that you enjoy.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  It is.

• 24:34Bunnie XO?

  As much as like your yaks and shit.

• 24:35Speaker 02

  Because the makeup brand took off so big.

• 24:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  I was like, and I really became engrossed.

• 24:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  I went from living in a one bedroom apartment with a thousand dollars to like, I want to be a CEO of my own company. And I had to literally teach myself everything.

• 24:48Bunnie XO?

  But I mean, you did it and look what happened. So you're in, let me, let me, so when we left off on your story.

• 24:54Speaker 02

  Music, yeah.

• 24:55Bunnie XO?

  You had just started music. When you decided to stop music and then when did you start getting into makeup?

• 25:02Speaker 02

  Oh, that's a good question.

• 25:03Bunnie XO?

  Coincided with each other?

• 25:04Speaker 02

  It was also, the music was literally like a 10 year journey.

• 25:08Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 25:09Speaker 02

  And I was always independent until the end.

• 25:11Bunnie XO?

  You were touring and everything, right?

• 25:13Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:13Bunnie XO?

  You're hopping on the tour bus tonight with us.

• 25:15Speaker 02

  We had tour buses. I was performing and there was no like real label behind me. I had an independent deal through Warner, which means I had no support.

• 25:22Bunnie XO?

  It's like a distribution deal.

• 25:24Speaker 02

  It was literally a distribution deal. That was it. And it was sick. And we had a, you know, we had a cute little number one dance album and la la la. But I never got the success that I wanted.

• 25:31Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  I wanted to be like number one. And then there was other people in the industry coming up at the same time. And they chose Evil Deals, Kesha, Lady Gaga, and they even stole from my.

• 25:47Bunnie XO?

  Aesthetic.

• 25:48Speaker 02

  Oh, baby. And I'm not blaming them. I'm blaming their stylists and their team. They would go out and they would steal.

• 25:53Bunnie XO?

  Gaga for sure.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  Girl.

• 25:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, like that's your, that's your whole shit.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  It was crazy back in the day.

• 25:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 25:59Speaker 02

  I would go and I, and I saw their first show once.

• 26:02Bunnie XO?

  People weren't doing cease and desist back then, right?

• 26:04Speaker 02

  Pink on the, on the screen right before she goes on stage.

• 26:07Bunnie XO?

  Like your cereal shot, right?

• 26:08Speaker 02

  Girl, the cover of Plastic Surgery Sumber Party, I'm puking pink.

• 26:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You have your finger in your mouth.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  This woman's show. She's throwing up pink on the Jumbotron for her first big tour.

• 26:20Bunnie XO?

  And there's nothing you can do.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  Devastated crying. Fifteen years later, I'm reviewing her concealer. We're cool. Lady Gaga, I love you, but it was her team. And later down the road, when I became uh, signed to similar folks, they all had stories and it was really dark and it's none of it was her fault. When you're that big, you have such a team behind you and you're just going with the fucking flow.

• 26:42Bunnie XO?

  And no say so, like literally, yeah, right. We never know.

• 26:47Speaker 02

  But a lot of them chose horrible deals. Um, you know, people call it selling their soul. I've always kept my soul.

• 26:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 26:54Speaker 02

  And I've been offered a lot.

• 26:55Bunnie XO?

  I'm looking you in your eyes. You seem to have a soul still. Yeah.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  It all cracks.

• 27:00Bunnie XO?

  He turns into a reptilian right now.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  They wanted me to go full reptile. I didn't want to.

• 27:05Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 27:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:06Bunnie XO?

  How does that even work? How does somebody come to you and say, hey, I want you to be a reptilian?

• 27:10Speaker 02

  They see the potential that you can do to shift the culture.

• 27:13Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 27:14Speaker 02

  And I chose to shift it myself.

• 27:16Bunnie XO?

  So people actually will come to you and say, hey, I want you to be a reptilian. What does that entail?

• 27:20Speaker 02

  It's more like, will you, it's basically like selling your soul. It's such a tricky, such a tricky thing to say.

• 27:26Bunnie XO?

  Like Ursula and the Little Mermaid, like sign on the dotted line and pretty much.

• 27:29Speaker 02

  You have to give more than that.

• 27:30Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 27:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:31Bunnie XO?

  Like a firstborn or like your left nut or something?

• 27:36Speaker 02

  Listen, if you want that tour bus to not have the brakes go out tonight, no, I'm just kidding. No one can hear us. No one, no one knows we're talking about this.

• 27:42Bunnie XO?

  No, we're good.

• 27:43Speaker 02

  It's a tricky slope because the industry is really dark.

• 27:46Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 27:46Speaker 02

  And there's a lot of people that will do.

• 27:47Bunnie XO?

  There's such a dark side and there's such also a light side. It just depends on which.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  There is. But thankfully, because of social media and people having the guts, a lot of things are now infiltrated. Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, all these things are coming out.

• 28:00Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 28:01Speaker 02

  And it's like, thank God.

• 28:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 28:03Speaker 02

  So Hollywood is so scared.

• 28:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Oh, I bet. They're shook.

• 28:05Speaker 02

  There's no new artists. They're all pushing the stupid satanic demon shit. It's all so dumb.

• 28:09Bunnie XO?

  Fucking, what's her name? Doja Cat right now? It's getting weird.

• 28:12Speaker 02

  It's just getting boring.

• 28:14Bunnie XO?

  It's getting uncomfortable to the point of.

• 28:16Speaker 02

  Right is what it is.

• 28:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. It's just getting uncomfortable to the point of just like, who are, what are you trying to prove? We get it. You know, like you're.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  It's to make them feed into it like they really are. I know. It's, it's so boring. I listened to the new song for the first time on the plane right here and I'm just like. This is it, huh?

• 28:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you're like, that's it.

• 28:35Speaker 02

  Second verse is kinda cute, but it's like, I just bought a limousine and I'm just like, my IQ is dropping right now.

• 28:41Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah.

• 28:42Speaker 02

  It's not great.

• 28:43Bunnie XO?

  She's losing her razzle dazzle.

• 28:45Speaker 02

  I even like Pink the Town, right? I think it's cute. It has a great beat. Obviously, these producers know what they're doing. They create a beat that you're gonna be hooked on and you can sing it in your head.

• 28:53Bunnie XO?

  A loop, yeah.

• 28:53Speaker 02

  It's all a game, you know what I mean? So I never played the game with these top producers. I never, I saw how dark the industry was and it was like, could go here or this way. So I fired everyone. I said goodbye to Akon. I said goodbye to Convict Music.

• 29:08Bunnie XO?

  Which you were assigned to Akon whenever you were doing your music career.

• 29:11Speaker 02

  So my last few songs, it has the iconic clink Convict. Do you know how cool that was? That very first time I got to put a track out with his fucking intro? It was like, I made it. It was insane.

• 29:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:22Speaker 02

  Prom Night, the crazy single.

• 29:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yep.

• 29:24Speaker 02

  Where our little kid's shooting up everyone at the end.

• 29:26Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  Such a forward thinker.

• 29:28Bunnie XO?

  You really are, though. You have always been, no, for sure, for sure. You have always been ahead of your time, though.

• 29:35Speaker 02

  Baby Columbine had just happened. I'm like, we're gonna tap into this, cuz I also was getting death threats every day. It was different times. I would walk out the streets looking like this, faggot. I was called the craziest names. Nowadays, people don't talk like that.

• 29:48Bunnie XO?

  Right, well, you get fucking cancelled.

• 29:50Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 29:50Bunnie XO?

  I'm so tired of online fucking trolls and shit.

• 29:53Speaker 02

  But back in the day, it was just so different.

• 29:54Bunnie XO?

  Twenty fourteen, you're already doing MySpace.

• 29:58Speaker 02

  Twenty fourteen is when I started the brand.

• 30:00Bunnie XO?

  Right, so I was gonna say, MySpace was after music or?

• 30:04Speaker 02

  Before.

• 30:04Bunnie XO?

  Before?

• 30:05Speaker 02

  And during.

• 30:05Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 30:06Speaker 02

  And then remember, MySpace

• 30:09Bunnie XO?

  Tanked.

• 30:10Speaker 02

  Finally started having it to run. Facebook's here, Instagram's here, all these new things are happening. The population's changing, the last generation's now, you know, just, everything's evolving.

• 30:21Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:22Speaker 02

  So it was a very hard time for me. I let go of the music world.

• 30:27Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  I knew I was never gonna be number one single and, and performing in front of twenty thousand in my head, not knowing what was gonna come later.

• 30:35Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 30:36Speaker 02

  And I gave it all up. And that was like the only moment where I almost felt like giving up. Not like full suicide, but it was like, I, I, I was like very hopeless.

• 30:46Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 30:46Speaker 02

  And I was sitting in this apartment that I did the documentary on, right? Me and Shane Dawson, we even went back to the old apartment. It was so fucked.

• 30:53Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 30:53Speaker 02

  And

• 30:56Speaker 02

  It was it was just a moment of like, we're going this way or this way. So then I just started using the internet, which is free. You don't need to go to college. And I taught myself how to make a product, how to build a brand, and I just taught myself everything from the ground up. And there was a makeup, I mean, I'm in LA. There's makeup labs everywhere. People want to work with me. But it was at a really weird stage. So as I quit, I start, I went back to the Warped Tour crowd. I started selling merchandise and doing meet and greets with no music anymore.

• 31:24Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  Here's a sick merch line. Come meet me. Cause I was broke.

• 31:29Bunnie XO?

  The tenacity, though.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  I was fucking broke.

• 31:31Bunnie XO?

  Most people don't have the tenacity that you do to do that, to to go and teach themselves things and to just keep fucking hustling. That's like something that you can't fucking teach people. You should be proud of yourself for that.

• 31:43Speaker 02

  Survivor mentality, it was like, it was do or die.

• 31:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 31:47Speaker 02

  So I'm on Warped Tour 2013, testing out my first ever lipstick formulas in the heat. It was awesome.

• 31:55Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 31:56Speaker 02

  And I'm concocting my plan and and thinking about what I'm gonna do. And I'm like, okay, I want to put out three liquid lipsticks. There's only like three brands on the market at the time.

• 32:04Bunnie XO?

  Kylie wasn't around then.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Nope. Her lips were still normal.

• 32:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:08Speaker 02

  And mine weren't.

• 32:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh, we had, we got into plastic surgery at a young age because that's where, that's how we grew up. That's how the West Coast is.

• 32:16Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 32:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:18Speaker 02

  So I'm on this tour bus. We're doing meet and greets every day in the hot sun. Everyone else, you know, they do their thirty minute set, their little ten minute meet and greet. And they all go try to fuck and get wasted. I'm under that hot tent, seven hours, working that motherfucker. Making, making all the money.

• 32:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:35Speaker 02

  Never partying. And once the seven hours is over, then I go chill, redo my makeup, then we swallow.

• 32:43Bunnie XO?

  Line them up.

• 32:44Speaker 02

  Line them up.

• 32:44Bunnie XO?

  Line them up, baby.

• 32:45Speaker 02

  But, you know, it was just, it was such a crazy time for me. So I felt very hopeless. But then I'm ready to start the brand and launch this shit.

• 32:54Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 32:54Speaker 02

  I have no investor.

• 32:58Speaker 02

  Akon was gonna own part of my brand. Shout out to Akon, amazing musician, right?

• 33:03Bunnie XO?

  Is he a good human too?

• 33:04Speaker 02

  He is, but he was going through so much turmoil in his life with his record label playing games and all these things. He could not be the best manager for me.

• 33:11Bunnie XO?

  So, okay, circling back, we, you're, it's on Warped Tour, you're doing, you're working your ass off and you're staying sober this whole time?

• 33:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, so you've never had a problem with drugs or anything?

• 33:20Speaker 02

  No.

• 33:21Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 33:22Speaker 02

  So I didn't smoke. So here's a great, I didn't try weed till I was 23.

• 33:26Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 33:27Speaker 02

  We were on tour and I'm with Daniel and the very first time was in Salt Lake City at this venue and their, their house, the venue owners, their house was above the venue.

• 33:36Bunnie XO?

  Weird.

• 33:37Speaker 02

  And it was very cool. Shout out to Jackie, I still remember her and they had the volcano bag.

• 33:41Bunnie XO?

  Oh my God, a gravity bong type thing?

• 33:43Speaker 02

  No, no, no, like the volcano, like the one that blows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not the bong, but like the bag.

• 33:47Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 33:48Speaker 02

  And it's like pure vapor, so it's very strong.

• 33:51Bunnie XO?

  For your first time?

• 33:52Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 33:53Bunnie XO?

  Extreme.

• 33:53Speaker 02

  And obviously people always ask like, why did you want to do it then? It was like in the moment, I'm feeling that, not that rock star life, but like I had made it, I'm on stage, there's a few thousand people there every night. It was very wild times.

• 34:06Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 34:06Speaker 02

  And I'm with Daniel, I felt very safe. Um, and I was like, you know what? Let me just try it for the first time. Like everyone else was smoking and they're acting normal. I didn't, I didn't like the wasted, gross, aggressive emotions, all this. I saw the array of people really happy, really violent, crying, trauma coming out and I'm like, fuck all this.

• 34:24Bunnie XO?

  When you're sober around drunk people, I just talked about this on a podcast yesterday.

• 34:27Speaker 02

  People don't get it, it's hard, it's awful.

• 34:28Bunnie XO?

  I just, I tell everybody I'm judging you because there's nothing attractive about a woman spilling all over the place, a guy in your face just breathing on you. Like I hate it. It's so gross.

• 34:37Speaker 02

  People don't realize that until they're sober.

• 34:39Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 34:40Speaker 02

  So it was, it was great times though. It was amazing.

• 34:44Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 34:45Speaker 02

  So we're at this weird trajectory of like, how am I gonna get this brand launched? And then once the Akon-

• 34:49Bunnie XO?

  The gravity bag though.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, the gravity bag. See, I'm already on the gravity bag today. So we try weed for the first time. So I take a hit. I'll never forget this. And the bag is like big and you take a hit. And I'm like, I literally felt nothing. And a lot of people go, well, sometimes the cannabinoids don't work on your first time. Yeah, whatever. So I didn't know the vapor takes like, hmm, maybe five to 10 minutes to like kind of kick in.

• 35:14Bunnie XO?

  Hit you, yeah.

• 35:14Speaker 02

  So Mr. Extreme over here, I take like five more hits.

• 35:20Speaker 02

  And I'm like, nothing's happening. This is so like, wow, I can't believe I took this long to try weed and nothing's happening. It hit me like a train.

• 35:29Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  In the best way.

• 35:30Bunnie XO?

  Oh, good.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  No bad first trip.

• 35:32Bunnie XO?

  Good.

• 35:34Speaker 02

  I can't stop laughing.

• 35:35Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 35:35Speaker 02

  I'm already a silly bitch.

• 35:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 35:38Speaker 02

  Me and Daniel are on, it's this cheetah print rug.

• 35:41Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  I'm laughing hysterically in my fucking underwear. The show's done. I'm all sweaty. You know what I mean? We're just up there chilling. Everyone's getting a drink, la la la. I cannot stop laughing. The munchies hit.

• 35:52Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  And we're like, okay, we're, you know, we start saying goodbye. I'm high for hours. We get into the van to go to the, the hotel, the little La Quinta, the little La Quinta. We're in the van going to the hotel and I feel like we're on a roller coaster and we're going thirty five miles an hour.

• 36:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 36:05Speaker 02

  I'm laughing hyster- we get to the hotel. I clean out the vending machine.

• 36:09Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 36:10Speaker 02

  I have no idea, but I'm so high. My brain blacks out.

• 36:15Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 36:17Speaker 02

  I wake up. There's chili Frito bags, Funyuns, Snicker bars, like, I cleaned out that bitch. And I had an eating fest with Daniel. We ordered pizza. I don't remember ordering and I, and I had the best sleep of my life. That's what I remember.

• 36:32Bunnie XO?

  What a fucking great memory of you two.

• 36:34Speaker 02

  It was beautiful.

• 36:34Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 36:35Speaker 02

  And I felt so safe with Daniel, so.

• 36:36Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 36:38Speaker 02

  I start my journey of liking weed.

• 36:40Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 36:41Speaker 02

  And I didn't fully really get into it until I started my brand and I felt comfortable. And now I, you know, I, I've said I've been high for ten years, but marijuana has been a really big. I don't know. It's so hard to like, claim something as doing something.

• 36:56Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  But it definitely has helped my creativity flourish.

• 37:00Bunnie XO?

  Right. Do you battle with mental illness still or anything?

• 37:03Speaker 02

  Honestly, no, not really.

• 37:04Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  Like we all.

• 37:06Bunnie XO?

  No cutting or anything like that anymore? I was gonna say, maybe it like eases that.

• 37:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, it does take away full anxiety. I could, I don't ever really feel anxious, but I do smoke weed every day. Um, where it's legal.

• 37:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 37:17Speaker 02

  And let's say my team's like, yo, okay, I created a concept, but you need to name these thirty five eyeshadows, like now.

• 37:24Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 37:25Speaker 02

  Puff.

• 37:27Speaker 02

  It starts coming out. I need like if I that's why music. Oh, my God. When I did that first album. I had never really smoked.

• 37:35Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  Beauty Killer and all the EPs.

• 37:36Bunnie XO?

  But it was a way for you to channel.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 37:38Bunnie XO?

  Your energy.

• 37:39Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 37:39Bunnie XO?

  And just throw yourself into something that you really enjoy.

• 37:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:42Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 37:43Speaker 02

  It's really cool.

• 37:44Bunnie XO?

  So let's talk about something else that you enjoy. Makeup. Do you still enjoy makeup?

• 37:47Speaker 02

  I really do.

• 37:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:49Bunnie XO?

  And skincare now, too.

• 37:50Speaker 02

  Obsessed.

• 37:51Bunnie XO?

  Talk to me about it.

• 37:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I I've always loved skincare. I used to tell people as as young as fifteen, don't move your face.

• 37:59Bunnie XO?

  Right. Yeah.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  Which was always my thing.

• 38:01Bunnie XO?

  That's why I'm frozen.

• 38:02Speaker 02

  Now, as I get older, I don't care. I dissolved all my filler and I'm just kind of living a more free life. But I'm still me. I'm still Jeffrey fucking Star.

• 38:09Bunnie XO?

  Do you do botox or anything?

• 38:10Speaker 02

  I have it in two years.

• 38:11Bunnie XO?

  Wow, it looks amazing, though. I have to have it. I can't. When I start getting the wrinkles in the forehead, I freak out.

• 38:17Speaker 02

  I yeah, I do have more wrinkles. I'm not embracing them. Maybe they'll go away this this winter.

• 38:22Bunnie XO?

  You look great, though.

• 38:23Speaker 02

  Thank you. But I'm just doing a little more like my lips were too crazy, so I dissolved a lot. And you know, when things start to migrate and all this.

• 38:28Bunnie XO?

  I look like fucking Marge Simpson.

• 38:30Speaker 02

  So I had to.

• 38:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 38:31Speaker 02

  I had to tone it down for me, like below my nose was getting weird.

• 38:35Bunnie XO?

  No, your face is perfect. You look beautiful.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  So I had to tone it down a notch for me.

• 38:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, but we always do things for us, not for anybody else.

• 38:42Speaker 02

  But I always go extreme.

• 38:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, for sure. So you started the makeup brand in twenty fourteen.

• 38:47Speaker 02

  Twenty fourteen, I launched three liquid lips on Black Friday.

• 38:51Bunnie XO?

  And you were looking for an investor. Akon was gonna invest, but he couldn't.

• 38:55Speaker 02

  He was out. Next, let's hit up my best friend of twelve years, Kat Bundy. She's down. She shows me a makeup lab and I start doing my formula. She literally gives me a sample with a name of the lab. I call it Do All The Work. When she tried to destroy my career online, which flopped and backfired, she said she did everything. It was the biggest insult I think I've ever felt in my entire life. Because I did everything.

• 39:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's always hurtful when a friendship breaks up. It's like worse than a divorce.

• 39:24Speaker 02

  And publicly, for the very first time, because I had not really done online drama, then after that, as bigger as as things got, oh, it's a bloodbath.

• 39:31Bunnie XO?

  I feel like people just come for you just to be.

• 39:34Speaker 02

  Yes. They used to all the time just to get attention. So but it was my first big taste of the internet flipping.

• 39:41Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 39:41Speaker 02

  Without knowing any facts.

• 39:42Bunnie XO?

  Oh, they don't care.

• 39:43Speaker 02

  And then days later, if I recall, they all flipped back and realized it was all full shit.

• 39:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, they don't care.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  But it was so hurtful for someone to say, I created his brand. It was like, but it was believable. That was a problem. And now knowing.

• 39:55Bunnie XO?

  Cause she was a little bit bigger than you back then. Right. Cause she had the LA or whatever.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  Having more money than me and she liked being the friend that had more. So when I surpassed her, she flipped on me. Twelve year friendship. She's tattooed my whole body. Fifty portraits.

• 40:10Bunnie XO?

  Would you guys ever be friends again?

• 40:12Speaker 02

  No.

• 40:13Bunnie XO?

  You just, because of you?

• 40:15Speaker 02

  Because of the way I was treated, I can never forgiving is fine when you get older. You can never go back to someone that stabbed you that hard.

• 40:24Bunnie XO?

  Well, you could forgive but not forget.

• 40:25Speaker 02

  Yes. So it was one of the most painful things I've gone through.

• 40:29Bunnie XO?

  Do you think maybe she's grown a lot since being a wife? And I'm just playing devil's advocate.

• 40:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I honestly have no idea.

• 40:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 40:34Speaker 02

  I'm one of those people that now that I've, I've really helped myself, I don't lurk. It's like the old days, I would care what everyone's doing. It's so unhealthy.

• 40:42Bunnie XO?

  It is. It's very toxic. I need to stop doing that.

• 40:44Speaker 02

  I don't, so I don't read the news. I don't know what's happening anymore. I don't care who's fucking who. What's this? Who did this? Who? I just don't care. It's so unhealthy.

• 40:54Bunnie XO?

  You just get to a point of just serenity.

• 40:57Speaker 02

  But when you're in the same world, yes, you're told she has a kid now. That's crazy. Crazy.

• 41:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:05Speaker 02

  Insane that shit. That's fucking insane. And when you say also like, I hate children and then you have one, anyone's allowed to change their mind, obviously. I've grown a lot. It was wild to see someone become a parent.

• 41:18Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 41:18Speaker 02

  So hopefully it makes them nicer.

• 41:21Bunnie XO?

  I feel like children soften women too. So, you know, you never know. Never say never. Maybe you guys will cross paths somewhere down the road and be able to.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  But I'm ready to share because I have never really talked about it. And I think that I never got to say my piece because no one wanted to hear what I had to say at the time.

• 41:36Bunnie XO?

  I know. I just hate that for you. I feel like you're so misunderstood. Not now. I feel like with TikTok, everybody's starting to get to see the real you or the grown you. And I feel like everybody's loving it and embracing it.

• 41:49Speaker 02

  Her saying misunderstood was the only time today where I felt like a tinge of wanting to cry.

• 41:53Bunnie XO?

  Aww, I love you. Guess what? You wanna hug? Let's hug.

• 41:58Speaker 02

  Later.

• 42:00Bunnie XO?

  Listen.

• 42:01Speaker 02

  But yeah, it's hard when you have success to say you feel any type of way because people equate money to you feeling fine.

• 42:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 42:08Speaker 02

  I didn't, I never started the brand to make money.

• 42:10Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 42:11Speaker 02

  It grew insane and then I, so.

• 42:13Bunnie XO?

  You started the brand because you came from nothing and you had something to prove.

• 42:17Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 42:17Bunnie XO?

  You didn't wanna be a piece of shit. Your whole, or you know, whatever, a people, a derogatory name that people were calling you. I totally understand. I've been a hooker my entire life. Now I'm a millionaire because I fucking worked my ass off.

• 42:29Speaker 02

  Understand it.

• 42:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, like they can't let go of that past, but they wanna, you know, they don't wanna acknowledge what I've done with my clothes on, you know? So I totally understand where you're coming from. Let's talk about the brand though. So you started in?

• 42:40Speaker 02

  I started it.

• 42:41Bunnie XO?

  Twenty fourteen.

• 42:42Speaker 02

  So Kat was gonna be the investor.

• 42:44Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 42:45Speaker 02

  Flips on me. We all know that, how that ended. And isn't it funny? She doesn't even have, own her brand anymore. It's gone.

• 42:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  The irony in the last, my brand turns nine years old this November. Crazy. So grateful for the journey. We, so I then, in the music industry, I'm like, okay, I have no, I have no investor. I've already met the lab. The three colors are done. The formula's better than the ones on the market. I have no money. So I'm sitting there in full hopelessness, but I'm like, I'm still a hustler. Hello.

• 43:14Bunnie XO?

  So how many dicks do I gotta suck?

• 43:16Speaker 02

  That's it. And, and shockingly, none to get the first loan.

• 43:21Bunnie XO?

  Good for you.

• 43:22Speaker 02

  Isn't that great? So I start hitting up booking agents, people that are in the industry. Do you know anyone?

• 43:27Bunnie XO?

  Connections that you've made by working your ass off.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  I know everyone. I know all the, all the booking agents from the little punk rock venues to the House of Blues to the arenas. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna start networking. I start calling people. This guy that owns Sumerian Records had a meeting with me. And the co-owners of Sumerian Records, Ash and Jeff Cohen.

• 43:49Speaker 02

  invested in me and believed in the project.

• 43:51Bunnie XO?

  Doesn't that feel good?

• 43:52Speaker 02

  It was insane.

• 43:53Bunnie XO?

  To have somebody believe in you, in your vision.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  Clicked of like you, you have the funds to make the dream a reality. And all I needed was a hundred thousand. So I, I put everything I had in and they gave me the last of what I needed. On launch day, I paid them back in five minutes.

• 44:09Bunnie XO?

  Wow. I just got goosebumps.

• 44:11Speaker 02

  It was beautiful. Cause it was so like, is anyone going to care? I'm like, I have to do a photo shoot. I do a photo shoot in a pink coffin.

• 44:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  My first brand shoe ever. And my eyes are open and I'm like, the liquid lipstick you've all been dying for. Coming soon. And that was this journey of my, of even creating a website, letting people know.

• 44:31Bunnie XO?

  Where you are.

• 44:32Speaker 02

  And then it was just like, you know, releasing colors and then the first highlighter and then the first lip scrub. And now it's spiraled into this massive thing. And it's just so beautiful and I'm so in love with makeup and I've changed the entire industry.

• 44:44Bunnie XO?

  Literally.

• 44:45Speaker 02

  Everything I enter, even TikTok. I'm changing TikTok right now. I'm taking the credit. From doing the live streams and the live crowd.

• 44:51Bunnie XO?

  Dude, we crack up seeing you on live all the time. I'm like.

• 44:54Speaker 02

  You never know what you're getting.

• 44:55Bunnie XO?

  I'm like, Jeffrey is fucking hilarious.

• 44:57Speaker 02

  Really fun.

• 44:58Bunnie XO?

  No, you're hilarious.

• 44:59Speaker 02

  And then battling like the TikTok creators and the people that I didn't know existed. And then be- becoming part of the family and then half of them fucking loving me and you know, half of them fucking hate me.

• 45:08Bunnie XO?

  I, I don't think they hate you. I think they just hate to love you.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. And they can't believe I joined their platform and I'm loving it. They, some people are shook at how much I love it.

• 45:18Bunnie XO?

  When I saw you on there, I was like, Jeffrey's on TikTok. And I was like, it's about fucking time.

• 45:22Speaker 02

  I know. So in the pandemic, when it was this whole dancing era.

• 45:25Bunnie XO?

  Hated it. I wouldn't do it either. I was like, you're not going to catch my fucking ass on there.

• 45:30Speaker 02

  It was the first time where I was like, wow, I'm not progressing with the internet culture.

• 45:35Speaker 02

  But YouTube is still so big. So let's go to, I start the brand. I learned what a beauty influencer is, rolling my fucking eyes in the back of my skull right now.

• 45:44Bunnie XO?

  I feel like everybody's so catty in that industry and just.

• 45:47Speaker 02

  I start doing YouTube. I upload my first tutorial. Now remember, I always forget to tell this to people. No one had seen me. Without makeup on before.

• 45:57Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 45:58Speaker 02

  So my big.

• 45:59Bunnie XO?

  Which I think you're gorgeous without makeup on. I love you without makeup on.

• 46:02Speaker 02

  I and a lot of people do. Thank you for saying that. But I wasn't ready and I felt insecure about it.

• 46:08Bunnie XO?

  So it was your whole, it was your mask, your entire life.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 46:11Bunnie XO?

  You hid behind that.

• 46:12Speaker 02

  Absolutely. And now that my trauma was starting to heal, I wasn't broke anymore. I had tax evasion. My bank account was frozen. No one knew any of this. And it was really, really dark times. I started.

• 46:25Bunnie XO?

  The IRS is the real fucking gangsters.

• 46:26Speaker 02

  That's it. They love me.

• 46:28Bunnie XO?

  But they do.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  They love me and it and I it transformed my entire life. So as I started to heal, the big shock was I'm gonna be bare face on YouTube.

• 46:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 46:38Speaker 02

  And I saw what the other girls were doing.

• 46:42Speaker 02

  So boring. We all know I fuck up everything I enter.

• 46:44Bunnie XO?

  I love that you always want to do your own thing because I'm the same exact way. I don't want to follow everybody.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  That's it. So I enter YouTube. I'm the first person I'm doing a tutorial. I'm lighting up the bowl. They changed the rules. You can't do that anymore.

• 46:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 46:57Speaker 02

  Two thousand fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. Oh, my God. And then eighteen, nineteen was just obviously in fucking credible. And my channel went from a hundred thousand to eighteen million people. And it was just like, how is this real? From tutorials to showing everything about my, I call it my marriage, my five year marriage, from every surgery to every mistake is all on my channel.

• 47:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 47:16Speaker 02

  And I quit last year.

• 47:18Bunnie XO?

  You shared your life with everybody.

• 47:19Speaker 02

  I did.

• 47:20Bunnie XO?

  I was so invested in you and Nate's relationship. That is one thing.

• 47:22Speaker 02

  It was beautiful.

• 47:23Bunnie XO?

  It was gorgeous to watch and.

• 47:24Speaker 02

  Thank you. Because I fell in love for the first time, not knowing it was gonna be on camera, really.

• 47:28Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  And it was really cool.

• 47:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  I finally felt loved for the first time by another man that didn't want me to be a secret. And it really helped me heal. So being in love in that relationship really helped me heal.

• 47:40Bunnie XO?

  What happened with you guys, if you don't mind me asking? Can we talk about it?

• 47:45Speaker 02

  Um, there's a lot of paperwork involved.

• 47:49Bunnie XO?

  Wow, really?

• 47:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 47:51Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 47:53Bunnie XO?

  On his part?

• 47:55Speaker 02

  Um, we, yeah, that, yep.

• 47:59Bunnie XO?

  I just went and lurked his Instagram last night and he doesn't look like he's doing well.

• 48:02Speaker 02

  Really?

• 48:02Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, that's so weird to hear because I don't lurk anymore. Obviously, this was.

• 48:06Bunnie XO?

  I was like, where is he? Because I was writing my questions down.

• 48:09Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. This November, I'm four years single. I mean, no, I've dated people. That's not fair to say, but in a deep, real relationship.

• 48:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Are you, are, do you think that maybe you're scared?

• 48:19Speaker 02

  Of what?

• 48:20Bunnie XO?

  Of falling in love again.

• 48:22Speaker 02

  Oh, that's a great question. No, I, I, and I'll get back to that. No, I'm, I'm open now. I'm not afraid.

• 48:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:28Speaker 02

  I'm not afraid at all. I know.

• 48:31Speaker 02

  No, I'm really not. Like, I'm very open to it. Um, haven't met the right person. I've dated some people. We've had a good time, la la la, but I haven't met anyone like I felt when I met him and our souls were like, wow.

• 48:45Bunnie XO?

  Twin flames.

• 48:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, had no idea. So I have not felt that since. Our breakup can legally not be discussed.

• 48:54Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha. I hate that for you, baby.

• 48:58Speaker 02

  I'm so sorry, everyone that wants the tea. I know, I know, I, I, it's not like I even want to talk about it. It's just, it's a normal thing.

• 49:05Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 49:06Speaker 02

  Like, you can legally talk about your breakups and whatever. I cannot, which is a different world we live in.

• 49:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 49:12Speaker 02

  So we had a great time.

• 49:15Bunnie XO?

  Does, so there's not one person that you have met that has like just set your soul on fire?

• 49:21Speaker 02

  Not since.

• 49:21Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:22Bunnie XO?

  You're just.

• 49:25Speaker 02

  That's my vibrator. It's on the bus.

• 49:27Bunnie XO?

  It's my blood pressure cuff in my purse. When it goes off, people think it's a vibrator.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  It's the NDA vibrating in my backpack.

• 49:35Speaker 02

  Oh, fuck.

• 49:36Bunnie XO?

  So moving on.

• 49:37Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. So you lurked. That's so funny.

• 49:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, so, yeah.

• 49:43Speaker 02

  And what, and what is your synapses?

• 49:44Bunnie XO?

  So I went.

• 49:45Speaker 02

  Miss Bunny?

• 49:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, because I was writing on my interview last night and I was like, where the fuck is Nate? Because that is the only part of your life that I was ever invested in. I have not been invested since. No offense.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  No, I love that.

• 49:54Bunnie XO?

  I don't get in the drama and I don't care. Like, I just love you as a human.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  I love that. Thank you.

• 49:59Bunnie XO?

  So.

• 49:59Speaker 02

  So you did a little lurking for me?

• 50:00Bunnie XO?

  I did. So I went on Nate's profile and he looks and I, you know, this is just my observation. I'm not saying anything. I don't know anything.

• 50:08Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 50:08Bunnie XO?

  He looks. Like he might be under the influence of something, not positive, but he just doesn't look mentally okay. You know, so I don't know. I even said that to Haley earlier today. I was like, he didn't look good. Like you can look at you and see that you're glowing and that you're trying to heal and you know, be a better human. And with him, it just kind of looks like he's lost, probably.

• 50:30Speaker 02

  That's interesting.

• 50:35Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 50:37Bunnie XO?

  Do you ever miss him?

• 50:39Speaker 02

  No.

• 50:39Bunnie XO?

  Okay. Moving on.

• 50:42Speaker 02

  I love all the times we had though, and a lot of it, which is funny, is on camera.

• 50:47Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 50:47Speaker 02

  We went to Bora Bora for the first time together. Like those were so cool. And obviously there were so many moments off camera of, of love and affection. And you know, we, we had little pieces on YouTube, but it was a beautiful relationship. It really was. And I had really fell in love with the first time.

• 51:02Bunnie XO?

  It served its purpose.

• 51:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. And it did. And it was so, it was really great for me because it really did, like I said, help me heal. And I think it's hard for people. If you haven't really fallen in love, what that feels like. Cause I thought it was made up and then it happened to me.

• 51:16Bunnie XO?

  He probably helped heal a bunch of childhood trauma wounds, you know?

• 51:20Speaker 02

  It really did. Yeah.

• 51:21Bunnie XO?

  Growing up in chaotic households like we grew up in, we searched for that puzzle piece. That can make us feel like the, you know, the little kid that we were before.

• 51:31Speaker 02

  And so cliche, when I stopped looking is when it hit.

• 51:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. But hello, I've never dated a fucking, a big guy before. And I literally had sworn off all dudes and then here comes this fucking big squish. And he fucking just bounces into my life, dude. And I just love him.

• 51:45Speaker 02

  Connect and he cannot explain it.

• 51:47Bunnie XO?

  At all. Like he is just seven years and I just couldn't imagine life without him. So it's gonna happen for you again too. Cause you're a beautiful human and you deserve to be loved.

• 51:55Speaker 02

  I agree and I'm, I'm open to it.

• 51:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Well, you guys hear that? Jeffrey's looking. Well, no, Jeffrey's not looking. He's open.

• 52:01Speaker 02

  You never know. Yeah. Right now I'm back in my ho era, I think.

• 52:05Bunnie XO?

  Would it be a regular guy or would it have to be somebody who's on the same level as you? I would think trying to date you would be hard.

• 52:12Speaker 02

  It is. But I'm also really busy. So it's hard to, right now, want to give. A bigger piece of me right now.

• 52:20Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 52:21Speaker 02

  I'm obsessed with my ranch. I'm a real farmer.

• 52:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 52:23Speaker 02

  Like, I'm out there in Louis Vuitton, covered in yak shit. I got over three hundred and fifty yaks. I have four backdrain camels.

• 52:29Bunnie XO?

  I know why you love yaks. I've come to the conclusion because I was pulling up a picture of them the other day.

• 52:34Speaker 02

  And they're the most diva of all cows.

• 52:36Bunnie XO?

  I was like, what the fuck is a yak?

• 52:38Speaker 02

  Terminology?

• 52:39Bunnie XO?

  Tell me that's not the scene kid of the animal kingdom.

• 52:42Speaker 02

  That is a Highland Scottish cow.

• 52:45Bunnie XO?

  Okay, well, I thought it was a yak.

• 52:47Speaker 02

  But they look very similar.

• 52:48Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  They do look similar.

• 52:49Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha. I was like, it's the hair. It's the emo hair. Like, he has to.

• 52:53Speaker 02

  Those are called, so though yaks that look like that are called super willys.

• 52:56Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 52:56Speaker 02

  And there's different, like, hair on the yak, but they're all really beautiful. They're like, I call them the diva of all cows.

• 53:02Bunnie XO?

  Are they fucking majestic as fuck?

• 53:04Speaker 02

  They are.

• 53:04Bunnie XO?

  I can't wait. I'm so excited.

• 53:05Speaker 02

  I live at the base of a mountain.

• 53:06Bunnie XO?

  Can I ride one?

• 53:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, um, you can ride a camel. No, no yaks. Yeah, but you can pet a yak. You can rub one to the ground.

• 53:12Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 53:13Speaker 02

  They're really cool creatures.

• 53:14Bunnie XO?

  And are they just so loving?

• 53:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:16Bunnie XO?

  I heard the coolest, uh, quote the other day that said, um, if you want to buy land and fill it with animals, it's because in the time of need that you had, uh, during your trauma, that was what the only thing that was there for you were the animals. And I was like, that's me. Cause I can't wait to dye my hair red and fucking be a gardener and fucking be ugly and just fucking have animals around me.

• 53:39Speaker 02

  Horrible food.

• 53:40Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 53:40Speaker 02

  That we're probably being poisoned with.

• 53:42Bunnie XO?

  What is your diet?

• 53:44Speaker 02

  Um, pretty, uh, pretty bad. It's way better now.

• 53:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 53:47Speaker 02

  So let me, let me drop a shot. Let me drop a shocker. No fast food, really.

• 53:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 53:53Speaker 02

  Obviously, I've had In-N-Out once or twice a year, but I used to eat and promote fast food like it was part of my thing.

• 53:58Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 53:59Speaker 02

  And I do not, I haven't eaten fast food in like three years.

• 54:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I don't eat fast food either. I ate In-N-Out when we were in Vegas.

• 54:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, sometimes you have to.

• 54:07Bunnie XO?

  I literally didn't eat in sauerkraut and ground chicken today to just make my tummy feel better.

• 54:11Speaker 02

  I love food, so like, and I, and I eat a lot of yak now.

• 54:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 54:14Speaker 02

  So obviously I raise them for pets and breeding, but now I have a full meat operation.

• 54:17Bunnie XO?

  Do you have certain yaks that you love and they get to live?

• 54:20Speaker 02

  People always go in on me like.

• 54:22Bunnie XO?

  You're killing your pets. Yeah.

• 54:23Speaker 02

  The ones I name and I'm rubbing on on Instagram obviously are not being slaughtered for meat. No, we haven't. We're not taking snowflake and snowstorm to the butcher. So we have a whole meat herd, which you'll see when you come to the ranch. And they're just there for food. We're in six restaurants now.

• 54:40Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 54:41Speaker 02

  Unreal. We're in the busiest steakhouse in all of Wyoming called Fire Rock.

• 54:44Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 54:45Speaker 02

  And it's wild. Oh, yeah. Or we'll cook them at the house, wherever you want.

• 54:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, whatever you want to do.

• 54:49Speaker 02

  Yak steaks. So then, of course, I opened up my new store.

• 54:52Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 54:52Speaker 02

  The Jeffree Star store.

• 54:53Bunnie XO?

  We're gonna go visit that tomorrow, too.

• 54:54Speaker 02

  Makeup and meat.

• 54:55Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so let's, before we get to the store, you quit YouTube.

• 54:59Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 55:00Bunnie XO?

  You fucking left LA.

• 55:01Speaker 02

  After almost nine years on YouTube, billions of views.

• 55:06Bunnie XO?

  Did you just have enough?

• 55:08Speaker 02

  It ran its course, and then the drama from all my old friends, they ruined YouTube. I always, I'm, it's their fault. They really did.

• 55:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 55:15Speaker 02

  So they, the last final hurrah was two ex-friends uploaded a video full of lies about me, and it literally ruined the internet. It was at a point where people did not want drama anymore. It's on CNN, fifty million views, and they're all trying to flip on me because I just keep climbing and climbing.

• 55:31Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 55:32Speaker 02

  We all kinda, and then YouTube itself kinda broke. The beauty industry of YouTube was dead.

• 55:38Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 55:38Speaker 02

  We're all getting thirty million views. No one cares anymore.

• 55:41Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 55:42Speaker 02

  And it's a new era.

• 55:43Bunnie XO?

  The monetization on it has changed even.

• 55:45Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 55:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 55:46Speaker 02

  But the cool thing is, all my old videos are still there.

• 55:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 55:48Speaker 02

  I get a check every month from Google. It's like residuals on music. It's pretty cool.

• 55:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 55:52Speaker 02

  So will I ever upload again? I don't know, maybe. I've been asked, when I launch big makeup collections, to go back and swatch them in a thirty-minute video.

• 56:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 56:00Speaker 02

  Versus this quick TikTok, like, how do you promote a collection with ten new items?

• 56:04Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 56:05Speaker 02

  With a quick little thirty-second. So you never know.

• 56:08Bunnie XO?

  I think if anybody can figure anything out, it's you.

• 56:11Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 56:11Bunnie XO?

  If you can make anything your bitch, it's you.

• 56:13Speaker 02

  Burnt out.

• 56:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 56:14Speaker 02

  So we're on twenty years of social media.

• 56:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. You just needed a break. Your soul was tired.

• 56:20Speaker 02

  And then I discovered TikTok in a good way.

• 56:22Bunnie XO?

  When you quit YouTube, did you, was that when you moved from LA to Wyoming?

• 56:27Speaker 02

  I'd already lived in Wyoming.

• 56:29Bunnie XO?

  Oh, so you had already moved and you were already getting ready to just.

• 56:32Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 56:33Bunnie XO?

  You were going through a change.

• 56:34Speaker 02

  Yes, a big one.

• 56:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 56:35Speaker 02

  And it was it was a necess it was necessary.

• 56:38Bunnie XO?

  Did you leave LA just because of the the humans that are there? Because I tell everybody, like when Leo Scepi came on the podcast, I was like, Leo, don't go to fucking LA. It's not the same as it used to be. It lost its sparkle.

• 56:50Speaker 02

  It's lost its magic. It's really not what it used to be anymore.

• 56:53Bunnie XO?

  At all.

• 56:54Speaker 02

  And I fell out of love with it.

• 56:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 56:56Speaker 02

  And then it was just getting so dark and toxic and just so many weird things are happening behind the scenes. And a lot of people did not want me around anymore because of this moment of like, when all the YouTube drama happened, I was going to expose a lot of people. And this is a tricky conversation. Someone else's, let me word this the right way.

• 57:21Speaker 02

  I got cocky and thought that I could expose someone else's trauma and story

• 57:31Speaker 02

  to X out someone else.

• 57:33Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 57:33Speaker 02

  That person did not want me to. Therefore, this person is still free.

• 57:39Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 57:41Speaker 02

  And that was very hard to deal with.

• 57:43Bunnie XO?

  Right. Yeah.

• 57:45Speaker 02

  But it was also selfishly wanting to let everyone know, this person's a piece of shit.

• 57:49Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 57:49Speaker 02

  And it's like, I had to learn through my journey of healing and through therapy that was not appropriate, which is I never did it, obviously.

• 57:58Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 57:59Speaker 02

  But those thoughts were haunting me.

• 58:00Bunnie XO?

  But your intention behind it was good.

• 58:02Speaker 02

  Yes, because so many people.

• 58:04Bunnie XO?

  Trying to hurt somebody.

• 58:05Speaker 02

  Were supporting someone who is so awful.

• 58:07Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 58:10Bunnie XO?

  It's that misunderstood thing again.

• 58:12Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. Yes. So the internet, as the roller coaster of my career has been, they wanted me to be the villain, I guess, that that year.

• 58:19Bunnie XO?

  Everybody needs a villain.

• 58:20Speaker 02

  And it was crazy. So this person begged and pleaded me not to share what they had told me. I obviously respected it and never did it.

• 58:29Bunnie XO?

  Right. That's still, that's shows that you're a good human. You know, you didn't do it.

• 58:33Speaker 02

  And to see this person still out there, they're not thriving like they used to be at all, is just interesting. But the industry does have demon demonic snakes.

• 58:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. I'll have to, you'll have to tell me who it is later, so I can steer clear of that human.

• 58:47Speaker 02

  Oh, his name is James Charles.

• 58:48Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no, really? Damn it. Do we need to bleep that?

• 58:52Speaker 02

  No, no, James, you know, you're a biggest, he's the biggest piece of shit in the beauty industry.

• 58:57Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 58:57Speaker 02

  And he allegedly has done a lot of horrible things. He admitted to talking to minors. He is a fucking piece of shit.

• 59:03Bunnie XO?

  So that is true. I just, I always stay out of the drama.

• 59:06Speaker 02

  He did a video allegedly, not allegedly, admitting to sexting minors.

• 59:12Bunnie XO?

  So I never knew this. Hey, we had a situation where he used one of my makeup artist's hacks and didn't tag her. So I just, on my backup account, I have a backup TikTok, TikTok account. I was just like, hey, James, we love you, we respect you, but you know, give credit where credit's due.

• 59:25Speaker 02

  He wants to be the one that.

• 59:27Bunnie XO?

  He did, though.

• 59:27Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 59:28Bunnie XO?

  I was very surprised. Right. But what's crazy is everybody in the comments started telling me about the pedophile stuff and I was like, God, I didn't know, you know, like I stay out of it, but.

• 59:37Speaker 02

  One of the most vile human beings on this planet.

• 59:42Bunnie XO?

  Lord.

• 59:42Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 59:43Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy. Well.

• 59:45Speaker 02

  Honestly, and I have never really talked or addressed these things, but he is a literal fucking monster.

• 59:53Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  And the fact that he's out there and somehow has a beauty product, I guess, that just came out and A-list celebrities are promoting this alleged child fucker.

• 1:00:04Bunnie XO?

  Is, um.

• 1:00:05Speaker 02

  People aren't ready for the truth. Everyone wants to keep their mouths shut and they keep, why?

• 1:00:09Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:00:10Speaker 02

  If someone is bad, let people know.

• 1:00:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, I agree.

• 1:00:13Speaker 02

  You have A-list celebrities literally using this shit.

• 1:00:16Bunnie XO?

  Has he been?

• 1:00:16Speaker 02

  It's all demonic and really dark and all those people, they stick together.

• 1:00:21Bunnie XO?

  Has he ever been charged?

• 1:00:22Speaker 02

  I don't know. I don't think so.

• 1:00:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I think that's probably what.

• 1:00:26Speaker 02

  Will we see it in the future? Yes, I'm sure.

• 1:00:29Bunnie XO?

  Well, also the Illuminati, though, not to keep bringing that up, but don't they use people like James Charles to bleed into? Other area, you know, because they can easily access minors.

• 1:00:41Speaker 02

  The children.

• 1:00:41Bunnie XO?

  Right, yeah.

• 1:00:42Speaker 02

  He is a big problem. And I don't speak on him, but they tried to ruin my career because of all the information I had.

• 1:00:50Bunnie XO?

  Wow. It's really brave of you to.

• 1:00:52Speaker 02

  So I moved away. I stood up to all of them, said fuck you.

• 1:00:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:57Speaker 02

  And I left that little LA county. And they're so controlled mentally by it. It's really sad. So.

• 1:01:05Bunnie XO?

  And you're free.

• 1:01:06Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:01:06Bunnie XO?

  You're literally.

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  But it's shocking, honestly. It really is. And I never speak about this. People ask me about this shit all the time.

• 1:01:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  I don't dwell. I don't really think about them. But when you start, you know, you're interviewing me. We're talking about the literal past.

• 1:01:18Bunnie XO?

  No, I appreciate the honesty.

• 1:01:20Speaker 02

  And it's like, I'm always gonna keep it real.

• 1:01:21Bunnie XO?

  Need to know. It's not fair. Well, you could be saving another child, you know, like.

• 1:01:26Speaker 02

  That part.

• 1:01:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:27Speaker 02

  But they don't take, people are not taking it as serious anymore. Or like new people discover someone and they're like, eh, whatever.

• 1:01:33Bunnie XO?

  Well, hopefully they will after hearing you speak on it because somebody such as yourself who's been in the industry for so long, who has street cred, literally, you know, to be able to stand up to somebody as powerful as him, because he is a powerful dude.

• 1:01:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:47Bunnie XO?

  And say that, you know, maybe people will start listening now.

• 1:01:51Speaker 02

  It's scary. Oh, it makes me sick just like thinking about his name.

• 1:01:54Bunnie XO?

  Sorry. I had no idea.

• 1:01:56Speaker 02

  But I've learned that it's not, I don't need to expose anyone. I don't need to do any of that. It's all gonna play out how it's supposed to be.

• 1:02:05Bunnie XO?

  It always comes to light. What's done in the dark always comes to light.

• 1:02:08Speaker 02

  And he is pure evil. Let me just leave it at that.

• 1:02:11Bunnie XO?

  All right. Moving on to more beautiful things. Casper. Take me, take, we're gonna go see this ranch tomorrow.

• 1:02:20Speaker 02

  Exploded. I don't know Wyoming's coming, but I'm like, I'm just so over living here.

• 1:02:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:25Speaker 02

  And I also had an ego death.

• 1:02:27Bunnie XO?

  I love that you know when to tap out.

• 1:02:28Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:02:29Bunnie XO?

  A lot of people don't know when to do that.

• 1:02:30Speaker 02

  And you know about ego deaths?

• 1:02:32Bunnie XO?

  Uh, yeah. Haley just had one on the PJ last night. She took a.

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  What? Really?

• 1:02:37Bunnie XO?

  She took a fucking edible and thought she died. She was looking.

• 1:02:40Speaker 02

  No, but I'm talking about like when you, your real ego, like diminishes.

• 1:02:44Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah. No, I've been through, I went through a really, uh, bad domestic violence relationship where I almost died a couple of times.

• 1:02:49Speaker 02

  Horrible.

• 1:02:50Bunnie XO?

  That will humble you and literally make you

• 1:02:54Bunnie XO?

  take the shell of the human that you were off and become a different human. Yes, for sure.

• 1:03:00Speaker 02

  I'm playing this in my book, like, December nineteen, I'm single for the first time in five years. I move into the, one of the biggest houses in LA, the big, one of the biggest mansions in Hidden Hills.

• 1:03:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it was a big motherfucker. I remember seeing it online.

• 1:03:13Speaker 02

  Single, twenty-five thousand square feet.

• 1:03:17Bunnie XO?

  That'd be lonely.

• 1:03:19Speaker 02

  Pandemic starts. We had so much fun, we filled so much content, but I had a realization, sitting in this massive home, surrounded by all these things, that it didn't make me happy.

• 1:03:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, material shit doesn't make you happy.

• 1:03:33Speaker 02

  No, but I didn't know that because I didn't have time to really think until.

• 1:03:37Bunnie XO?

  You were working towards the goal.

• 1:03:38Speaker 02

  Yes. So I don't know I want to leave California permanently. I just know I want to be away. I want to be in quiet. I want to actually go heal and not pretend and talk about it like all my ex-friends. And we, I've been to Wyoming so many times. I've been on tour, right, for years. We passed through here. Oh, my God, stunning. So I'm looking around, Jackson Hole is very famous. What a celebrities live there, big mansions, no land. I'm like, fuck this. This is literally like going to LA.

• 1:04:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:04Speaker 02

  We discover Casper. It's a small town, sixty thousand people, a hard-working town. People are nice.

• 1:04:11Bunnie XO?

  Country boys everywhere.

• 1:04:12Speaker 02

  Yep, oilfield workers, farmers.

• 1:04:15Bunnie XO?

  There are some really hot fucking oilfield workers. I see them on TikTok. I'm like, damn.

• 1:04:20Speaker 02

  Hot UPS workers, baby, listen. So we, we fly there a few times. We love it. Everyone's really nice. Instead of like LA, what do you do for a living? You know how they look you up and down? How can I use you? It's, how are you? I was like, people care.

• 1:04:35Bunnie XO?

  To hear you say.

• 1:04:36Speaker 02

  Y'all really want to know how I'm doing?

• 1:04:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:38Speaker 02

  I had to train myself to like not.

• 1:04:39Bunnie XO?

  That's how it was when I moved to Nashville.

• 1:04:41Speaker 02

  The guard had to come down a little. Fell in love with it. I find a property that has a bunch of land for sale around it, end of the road, no neighbors really, silence. Don't know I'm gonna become a farmer and own one yak.

• 1:04:56Bunnie XO?

  Farmer Jeff.

• 1:04:56Speaker 02

  Farmer Jeff's in the building and all of a sudden I have all this land and I'm like, oh, okay. I had seen yaks on tour in Switzerland. Two thousand ten.

• 1:05:06Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:05:07Speaker 02

  We're in Geneva. We're going through in the little tour bus. Yaks on the hillside.

• 1:05:11Bunnie XO?

  Could you have ever imagined in two thousand ten that you would own a fucking yak farm?

• 1:05:15Speaker 02

  Insane.

• 1:05:15Bunnie XO?

  That chance encounter with them.

• 1:05:18Speaker 02

  I Google, are they legal? It's a fucking bovine cow. I don't know this though, because I've only seen them in other countries.

• 1:05:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:23Speaker 02

  I Google it. There's even a yak farm in fucking town.

• 1:05:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:26Speaker 02

  I buy my first three.

• 1:05:28Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:05:28Speaker 02

  You know, I can't leave it alone and just have them be my pets.

• 1:05:30Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:05:32Speaker 02

  Now we're.

• 1:05:32Bunnie XO?

  I'm surprised they're not in the house with you.

• 1:05:34Speaker 02

  Sometimes they are.

• 1:05:35Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 1:05:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:36Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:05:36Speaker 02

  The little ones that are trained, they'll come in and out. They're really cute. The dogs love them.

• 1:05:40Bunnie XO?

  I'm gonna cry.

• 1:05:41Speaker 02

  They're really cool.

• 1:05:42Bunnie XO?

  I need that. I'm gonna go tell my husband right now. We need land.

• 1:05:45Speaker 02

  And there are yaks in Tennessee, even though it's humid there in the summer and I don't really recommend it. My friend does have a yak ranch out there.

• 1:05:52Bunnie XO?

  My husband, actually, I told him last night about your land in Casper and he was like, dude, let's look for some land. I was like, I'll ask him if he knows anybody that's selling stuff. We're ready. We're trying to get a farm.

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  In peace and quiet.

• 1:06:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:04Speaker 02

  There's nothing like it.

• 1:06:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. So what does Jeff?

• 1:06:08Speaker 02

  Now we're here.

• 1:06:09Bunnie XO?

  What does Jeffrey do next? Do you just kick up your feet and just fucking relax? Like, does the little boy in you?

• 1:06:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:17Bunnie XO?

  Is he ever gonna be proud?

• 1:06:19Speaker 02

  I'm really proud now.

• 1:06:20Bunnie XO?

  Good.

• 1:06:21Speaker 02

  I am. Running your nine of the brand, two years into skincare. I'm raising Tibetan yaks and camels.

• 1:06:27Bunnie XO?

  I mean, come on.

• 1:06:28Speaker 02

  And the farm life is so fulfilling. So last year, for six months, I didn't travel, except twice to do photo shoots. Everyone came to me. Jay saw snow for the first time. We did a photo shoot in ten degree weather.

• 1:06:39Bunnie XO?

  Your team, by the way, his team is here and they're just amazing.

• 1:06:43Speaker 02

  And we're in the snow, ten inches of snow, shooting the Wyoming winter campaign. Like, we've done so many cool things. So I didn't travel for six months. I got to really become a rancher.

• 1:06:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:53Speaker 02

  And it's me and a few guys. We do it all ourselves.

• 1:06:56Bunnie XO?

  You get out there.

• 1:06:56Speaker 02

  All the time.

• 1:06:57Bunnie XO?

  And just bust ass.

• 1:06:58Speaker 02

  Love it.

• 1:06:58Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love it.

• 1:06:59Speaker 02

  It's like my, my big pet project. I'm obsessed with it.

• 1:07:02Bunnie XO?

  I love this for you.

• 1:07:04Speaker 02

  So now we're just growing it. More restaurants. We open, so we just opened up the store.

• 1:07:08Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:07:09Speaker 02

  Which Yellow have performed at, iconic.

• 1:07:10Bunnie XO?

  Meat and makeup. Like, what a fucking crazy concept.

• 1:07:14Speaker 02

  Isn't it cool?

• 1:07:14Bunnie XO?

  And a lot of people. Does it work?

• 1:07:16Speaker 02

  Oh, baby.

• 1:07:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah?

• 1:07:18Speaker 02

  I'm gonna call my store, one of the busiest retail stores in Wyoming history.

• 1:07:22Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:07:23Speaker 02

  And September.

• 1:07:24Bunnie XO?

  And you're there working it. I see you online, just working it.

• 1:07:27Speaker 02

  September fourteenth, two month anniversary.

• 1:07:29Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:07:30Speaker 02

  It's a zoo every day, a line out the door. And then I started to like make up a funny concept, Celebrity Works the Register. It's my own store. I I'm very hands on with everything I do. So I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna go live and I'm gonna just help the customers out and like ring them up. Let's just see how it goes. I'm on a six hour stream. It's fucking crazy.

• 1:07:51Bunnie XO?

  Insane.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  And me and TikTok are good friends now. We've just worked on a really big deal together.

• 1:07:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, can we talk about it?

• 1:07:57Speaker 02

  Working on it.

• 1:07:58Bunnie XO?

  Can we talk about it?

• 1:07:59Speaker 02

  Do some announcements soon.

• 1:08:00Bunnie XO?

  Good.

• 1:08:00Speaker 02

  But they are very happy that I joined.

• 1:08:03Bunnie XO?

  Uh, duh.

• 1:08:04Speaker 02

  One of the, one of the highest viewed streamers ever, which is crazy.

• 1:08:09Bunnie XO?

  It's not crazy.

• 1:08:10Speaker 02

  And you guys seen the battles, right? And you've seen people go live, but you can send the gifts.

• 1:08:14Bunnie XO?

  The fucking island boy is always on there.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  So the.

• 1:08:17Bunnie XO?

  I can't stand that dude. He's, he's, he's a piece of shit also.

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  They tried to battle me and I'm like, no.

• 1:08:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, they're just not agreeing.

• 1:08:25Speaker 02

  So there's, it's all very addicting and it's very fun. And we're working on some big Jeffrey Star moments.

• 1:08:31Bunnie XO?

  Yay.

• 1:08:33Speaker 02

  Which is so cool to be, and I'm the OG of social media.

• 1:08:36Bunnie XO?

  That's what I was gonna say.

• 1:08:37Speaker 02

  The newest hottest platform, twenty years later, to be like, well, yes, sir.

• 1:08:42Bunnie XO?

  You reinvent yourself. You're like the Madonna of social media.

• 1:08:46Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:08:47Bunnie XO?

  Madonna's kind of, literally, you are, you literally reinvent yourself and you always know how to stay, you know, abreast of everything and just.

• 1:08:57Speaker 02

  He's relevant.

• 1:08:58Bunnie XO?

  Always, always relevant, baby. I love that for you. And I love that this, this journey that you're on. I love this Jeffrey right here. Just, you seem so at peace.

• 1:09:07Speaker 02

  Proud of myself. So it's so cool that you said that, because I never really talked about that. I'm very grateful. I'm very humbled. And I wake up every day like it's my last and I just go hard.

• 1:09:15Bunnie XO?

  I love it.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  I think if I'm given this opportunity, I can't be lazy one day out of my life.

• 1:09:19Bunnie XO?

  No. So do you ever think you're gonna be able to rest?

• 1:09:23Speaker 02

  Currently, no.

• 1:09:24Bunnie XO?

  You're a restless spirit like me. I don't, it's like I always have, no matter how proud of myself I am, it's like, okay, what can I do next? Like, I have to stay busy.

• 1:09:32Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:09:32Bunnie XO?

  No, I get that. I totally understand that.

• 1:09:34Speaker 02

  And there's so many more dicks to conquer.

• 1:09:38Bunnie XO?

  We didn't even get into the dicks.

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  Isn't that nice? Finally, someone had me on their podcast and it wasn't about my deep throat. It wasn't about all the band guys and all the athletes.

• 1:09:48Bunnie XO?

  No, I don't like that stuff doesn't.

• 1:09:50Speaker 02

  It's so, we've already done it all, especially from our past.

• 1:09:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's fun off camera. Maybe I'll show her a picture.

• 1:09:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, I would like that.

• 1:09:57Speaker 02

  Maybe I'll show her a few A-listers.

• 1:09:58Bunnie XO?

  We can, we can, we can compare notes.

• 1:10:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:00Bunnie XO?

  For sure. But I just feel like there's so much more to you than the dicks you suck.

• 1:10:03Speaker 02

  Thank you. And it is fun.

• 1:10:05Bunnie XO?

  You're a fucking mogul, dude.

• 1:10:06Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:10:07Bunnie XO?

  Like, you can pick any dick in the world and suck it. You know what I'm saying? You have the choice of dicks.

• 1:10:12Speaker 02

  Does the audience know that we've maybe slept with one or two of the same people?

• 1:10:14Bunnie XO?

  Um, well, no, but they do now.

• 1:10:20Bunnie XO?

  I never go into, I never discuss about who I slept with. So Jeffrey, except for that one time when MJ came on my podcast.

• 1:10:26Speaker 02

  Yes, and that, okay, so the reason, not the reason, but it accelerated our friendship. As I wake up one day, oh, it's accelerated, bitch. I wake up one day and I'm on TikTok and I'm just starting my journey. And I'm like, why am I getting tagged in this thing about fucking sucking dick? And I'm like, oh, typical. Then I'm, and it's you and your friend. And we're, and it was just hilarious.

• 1:10:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, so my friend, so MJ, MJ Fresh came on the podcast and I get a fucking FaceTime. I'm on the phone with her. And I'm like, this is a Wyoming number. Do you think it's Jeffrey? And she's like, no, answer it. And I'm like, no, I'm not answering it because I don't know who it is, you know? Calls three more times and I'm like.

• 1:11:05Speaker 02

  I'm the only Wyoming number she should have on that phone. There's one area code for the whole state.

• 1:11:09Bunnie XO?

  Literally.

• 1:11:10Speaker 02

  Shout out to 307.

• 1:11:11Bunnie XO?

  So I text it and I'm like, you called? And he's like, bitch, this is your new bestie Jeffrey. And I was like, holy shit. And he's like, so I heard that I'm sucking dick. Long story short, Jeffrey, Jeffrey actually sucked one of my ex's dicks. And hooked up with MJ Fresh's ex. So that, that's how it had gotten brought up. And we were just like, shout out Jeffrey. What if I, he's a playa, you know?

• 1:11:34Speaker 02

  So can I ask a question?

• 1:11:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:11:36Speaker 02

  How did she or you know?

• 1:11:38Bunnie XO?

  So.

• 1:11:39Speaker 02

  That's all I've wanted to ask.

• 1:11:40Bunnie XO?

  So my ex. Um, told me. Yeah, he, we, I'm very.

• 1:11:45Speaker 02

  From Vegas?

• 1:11:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. He was like, Jeffrey sucked my dick one night. And I was like, how was it?

• 1:11:50Speaker 02

  The tall one?

• 1:11:51Bunnie XO?

  Um, very tall and he's fucking built like he's got a little baby arm.

• 1:11:54Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 1:11:58Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, I'm deceased.

• 1:12:00Bunnie XO?

  Yes. So he told me.

• 1:12:01Speaker 02

  Very long.

• 1:12:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yes. So he told me and I was like, dude, how was it? He was like, it was the best.

• 1:12:06Speaker 02

  So I have a photographic memory. Last name?

• 1:12:08Bunnie XO?

  Yes. Yep, absolutely. That's crazy that you know that. She said the tall one, the blonde, blonde, tall blonde. Um, yeah. So when that, when she, when he told.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  I'm deceased.

• 1:12:19Bunnie XO?

  When he told me.

• 1:12:19Speaker 02

  Well, shout out to him for telling you.

• 1:12:20Bunnie XO?

  And he said it was the best head he's ever gotten. And I was like, too fucking amazing. I need some lessons, obviously.

• 1:12:29Speaker 02

  Why do you think I flew in to do this?

• 1:12:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:33Bunnie XO?

  I love it. I do have a question for you though about one hookup.

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  Go ahead and, well, right now, he can fix it on camera. It's funny.

• 1:12:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's fine. I don't care.

• 1:12:40Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Can I have a sip? Can we share?

• 1:12:41Bunnie XO?

  Of course.

• 1:12:42Speaker 02

  I'm clean.

• 1:12:42Bunnie XO?

  No, you're fine.

• 1:12:43Speaker 02

  If a guy's flying out, he's getting 24 hour testing with the results to my email.

• 1:12:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Is that, do you meet people?

• 1:12:51Speaker 02

  Not that many people. I sound like I fuck every day. No.

• 1:12:53Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:12:54Speaker 02

  Have I met some people? Yeah. Yeah, it's every other day.

• 1:12:56Bunnie XO?

  You have to be very, you have to be guarded. Have you guys ever hooked up? No?

• 1:13:01Speaker 02

  But he, he's seen. Go ahead, tell him. Oh, so, so besides, can I say this or no? So besides doing wigs, Jay also does porn on the side.

• 1:13:12Bunnie XO?

  Nice.

• 1:13:13Speaker 02

  He's a star.

• 1:13:14Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 1:13:16Speaker 02

  Come, Kevin, come on.

• 1:13:18Speaker 03

  And Jeff was like, take me with you. And I said, well, this is for talent, but I'll bring you in.

• 1:13:26Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 1:13:28Speaker 02

  Cause I'm like, where, where can I go in? Cause I started to get more famous as the makeup brands pop in.

• 1:13:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:33Speaker 02

  And I'm like, I don't want to go to this men's free clinic anymore. People are gonna think, oh, he has something. So he's getting checked. He'll make up the craziest shit.

• 1:13:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:13:39Speaker 02

  And I'm like, no, I just want to make sure I'm safe and clean, bitch.

• 1:13:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:42Speaker 02

  So I was like, damn, Jay, I don't want to go to this place anymore. People are gonna like take it, you know, cause you're in the lobby. Someone goes like this.

• 1:13:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Oh, no.

• 1:13:50Speaker 02

  Oh, my Lord.

• 1:13:50Bunnie XO?

  And then they, they, you can have the rest of it. You're fine.

• 1:13:52Speaker 02

  Thank you. So.

• 1:13:53Bunnie XO?

  They, literally people will say something and it's like word is bond. Like they, they don't have to have any proof. It just spreads like wildfire. Fucking does that shit to me every day. I'm always.

• 1:14:03Speaker 02

  Hook me up and, you know.

• 1:14:04Speaker 03

  But I have been on the Jeff, like, obviously being, and he's like right next to me doing it.

• 1:14:10Bunnie XO?

  So you guys, are you guys like BFFs?

• 1:14:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, like obviously people can turn that into something. So it's like, you know, I'm in a very, very strong clique. We've all been friends for years.

• 1:14:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:20Speaker 02

  So I was like, hey.

• 1:14:21Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 1:14:23Speaker 03

  Thank you, Kevin.

• 1:14:24Bunnie XO?

  Of cour- well, look, I don't go any- these two are my shadow.

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 1:14:28Bunnie XO?

  And Mimi, like, when you find your squad that you trust.

• 1:14:32Speaker 02

  We've had other employ- like, people have tried to fight us. They ran and I'm in, I'm literally like-

• 1:14:36Bunnie XO?

  I wouldn't try to fight you guys.

• 1:14:37Speaker 02

  Looking like this and I'm like, I have his back always.

• 1:14:40Bunnie XO?

  I want to see Jeffrey mad, running in full glam.

• 1:14:42Speaker 02

  Swinging.

• 1:14:43Bunnie XO?

  I would pay for that.

• 1:14:44Speaker 02

  Swinging, baby.

• 1:14:46Speaker 03

  A fan wanted to take a photo, but Jeffrey was having a conversation.

• 1:14:50Speaker 02

  And you know, people have sometimes no boundaries, no respect.

• 1:14:53Bunnie XO?

  At all.

• 1:14:54Speaker 03

  And the fan was feeling drunk and, uh, I don't tolerate not to respect.

• 1:14:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:59Speaker 03

  But God forbid a public figure or somebody, uh, acts on their feelings.

• 1:15:07Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:15:08Speaker 03

  They get bashful, right? Because they don't see the other side.

• 1:15:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Oh, absolutely. There's always two sides.

• 1:15:13Speaker 03

  Now, give me just one second, we finish this conversation.

• 1:15:16Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:15:16Speaker 03

  The fan fell some type of way into a drink.

• 1:15:20Speaker 02

  I haven't had a drink thrown on me. I'm talking-

• 1:15:23Speaker 03

  And this was like a year ago.

• 1:15:25Speaker 02

  I'm talking, the marijuana's hitting. I'm talking 10 years. We're in Casper, Wyoming. She don't have- she can't get her photo right now. She throws a Red Bull can. It splashes my shoulder and it gets on him.

• 1:15:38Speaker 03

  And it gets more on me?

• 1:15:40Speaker 02

  Game over. Let's just say game over.

• 1:15:43Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:15:44Speaker 02

  It's a wrap.

• 1:15:45Bunnie XO?

  I don't understand how people feel so entitled to somebody's time and body.

• 1:15:48Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:15:49Bunnie XO?

  It's just crazy to me.

• 1:15:49Speaker 02

  But I'm also so nice. I love taking pictures. Look how fucking sickening I look. I want to take a photo with you. I don't want to hide in the dark.

• 1:15:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:15:56Speaker 02

  I'm, hey, I'm just having a- people don't care.

• 1:15:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:58Speaker 03

  A lot of people also try to, uh, think that they can get away with attacks of guys too.

• 1:16:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 1:16:04Speaker 02

  Baby, I don't care who it is.

• 1:16:06Bunnie XO?

  If you- don't start none, won't be none.

• 1:16:07Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 1:16:08Bunnie XO?

  You know what I'm saying?

• 1:16:09Speaker 02

  But we're not about the disrespect, but most people are obviously really great. They are.

• 1:16:12Bunnie XO?

  No, and we do this because of you guys. You know, like, without you guys, there is no us. So, alright, so I'm- I'm gonna ask you some questions. We're gonna end this on the hot seat. Dude, we've been talking for an hour and a half.

• 1:16:24Speaker 02

  Bunny's meeting, we're about to start. It goes by so quick.

• 1:16:27Bunnie XO?

  It's crazy, right?

• 1:16:28Speaker 02

  What's, what's, it's not tripping me out, but it's really cool and, and amazing when I meet someone and it's like, I've known you for a long time.

• 1:16:36Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 1:16:36Speaker 02

  Cause you know, some people, and I've been interviewed a lot, you've been interviewed a lot, and so has your husband. And he knows sometimes, or a lot of the time, the vibe, or it's the same fucking question. So like, girl, you don't have anything else to say?

• 1:16:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:47Speaker 02

  And I feel like I've known you for a long time. I love your energy.

• 1:16:49Bunnie XO?

  I mean, I love your energy. I think that's the biggest compliment that you could ever give a human is loving their energy.

• 1:16:54Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:16:55Bunnie XO?

  And I've always felt drawn to you. And I watched those three podcasts because I really have not kept up with you. And when I got done watching them, I told my girls, I was like, he is me. Literally, like, we're like, the same type of human. It's just crazy.

• 1:17:08Speaker 02

  So she has watched me do a few podcasts and then been on them. It's, don't you find it weird sometimes of some, how people act on camera with me versus with other people?

• 1:17:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah. Uh, uh, yeah. I, I brought that up to you before the show. I was like, you know, maybe they're not straight, but we're not gonna say names on.

• 1:17:26Speaker 02

  Can I get a?

• 1:17:28Bunnie XO?

  Yes, exactly. Alright, so this is called the hot seat. I'm gonna ask you a couple, probably like six questions.

• 1:17:35Speaker 02

  I'm ovulating.

• 1:17:35Bunnie XO?

  You have to answer them as fast as you can, okay? Alright, marry, fuck, kill. Kanye West.

• 1:17:42Speaker 02

  Okay, marry, fuck, kill. Let's go.

• 1:17:44Bunnie XO?

  Yep. Kanye West. Jelly Roll. Drake.

• 1:17:49Speaker 02

  Ooh, this fucking bitch.

• 1:17:56Speaker 02

  I know. Oh, I, I, listen.

• 1:17:59Bunnie XO?

  Listen, Inquiring Minds wanna know, I feel like Drake swings the other way.

• 1:18:04Speaker 02

  So we're gonna marry Drake, fuck Jelly Roll, and behead Kanye West with a guillotine.

• 1:18:11Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 1:18:12Speaker 02

  And all my life, I have never slept with that man. We've been in the same room. I've fucked a bunch of his friends. I've sucked off some of his homies.

• 1:18:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:21Speaker 02

  I don't like short dudes.

• 1:18:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:23Speaker 02

  That, it's like guys that wear eyeliner.

• 1:18:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:26Speaker 02

  I, I'm not into short kings. You're not a king if you're short. Cause you, uh-uh.

• 1:18:30Bunnie XO?

  I love tall guys, too.

• 1:18:31Speaker 02

  So, yeah, my average is like a nice six, four and up.

• 1:18:34Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:18:35Speaker 02

  Tallest I've been with, six, ten.

• 1:18:36Bunnie XO?

  Cause you're six, one, right? And you wear heels.

• 1:18:38Speaker 02

  Mister six, ten, call me.

• 1:18:41Bunnie XO?

  I mean.

• 1:18:41Speaker 02

  He's overseas playing basketball right now.

• 1:18:42Bunnie XO?

  I was gonna say, that's gotta be hard to find, a six, tenner. What's the weenie on that look like?

• 1:18:46Speaker 02

  Oh my goodness!

• 1:18:48Bunnie XO?

  Literally.

• 1:18:49Speaker 02

  Oh lord, it's giving medium rare, it's giving thick, it's giving stunning.

• 1:18:58Bunnie XO?

  What's the dirty, what's the dirtiest thing you searched on your phone last?

• 1:19:04Speaker 02

  I'm gonna be a disappointment.

• 1:19:05Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:19:05Speaker 02

  I don't really search dirty things.

• 1:19:08Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:19:08Speaker 02

  Um, I'm, I'm someone that's really into POV. I love when people film me on my phone. Another man has never filmed me on their phone.

• 1:19:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:17Speaker 02

  Um, but on my Google searches.

• 1:19:18Bunnie XO?

  That's amazing that you've never let another man film you.

• 1:19:21Speaker 02

  Hell no, and when they come over, your phone's in the car.

• 1:19:23Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:19:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:24Bunnie XO?

  Do you make them sign NDAs? Absolutely. See, people get mad at me for making bitches sign NDAs.

• 1:19:29Speaker 02

  No, it's real.

• 1:19:29Bunnie XO?

  You have to, you have to protect yourself, dude.

• 1:19:31Speaker 02

  And you also know when you've been doing this for a long time, as ex prostitutes, you know someone's energy.

• 1:19:36Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 1:19:37Speaker 02

  Whether they a band groupie, a normal girl on the street, or an escort, you know if someone's trying to be fishy.

• 1:19:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:43Speaker 02

  And you don't think we know if someone's trying to pull a cap.

• 1:19:45Bunnie XO?

  But even if they're not trying to be fishy at that time, once they don't have your time or your attention, then they get fucking shady, dude.

• 1:19:51Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:19:52Bunnie XO?

  Like, that's how people are.

• 1:19:54Speaker 02

  That's a big statement.

• 1:19:54Bunnie XO?

  It's so fucked up. What's the worst thing you've ever sent to the wrong person?

• 1:20:02Bunnie XO?

  We airdrop people on planes, just fucking around all the time. We fucking, we'll like screenshot nasty shit.

• 1:20:08Speaker 02

  When something is near something, I have, but thank god it was with a friend.

• 1:20:12Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:20:13Speaker 02

  Of like, here's a wiener in my mouth. Like, that could ruin my, not, to me, it wouldn't ruin my career, people would actually like that.

• 1:20:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:20Speaker 02

  But like, you wanna see a picture that Jay took?

• 1:20:22Bunnie XO?

  Sure, I would love to.

• 1:20:23Speaker 02

  This is on a little private jet moment.

• 1:20:25Bunnie XO?

  I'm like, I would love to.

• 1:20:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, and obviously, like, hey, would, you know, do, are you down to take a photo? Cause there's, there's weird artists, like, there's the R. Kelly side, and then there's like, your, your friends and you all have fun side, okay?

• 1:20:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:36Speaker 02

  We're in the very fun side of life. When we're in the private jet and the sky is just blinging, it just looks stunning.

• 1:20:46Bunnie XO?

  Whose wiener is that? All I saw was dick.

• 1:20:49Speaker 02

  Isn't that cute?

• 1:20:50Bunnie XO?

  I didn't see the body it was attached to.

• 1:20:52Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:20:53Bunnie XO?

  That is a huge wiener.

• 1:20:54Speaker 02

  Isn't that cute?

• 1:20:55Bunnie XO?

  Goodness.

• 1:20:55Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:20:56Bunnie XO?

  It's very cute.

• 1:20:57Speaker 02

  It's beautiful, right? But I love, and I'm really into like a nice 12.

• 1:21:02Bunnie XO?

  That is huge.

• 1:21:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:04Bunnie XO?

  Do you take that?

• 1:21:05Speaker 02

  So my maximum of deep throating, and I'll admit this on Bunny's show, is a 12 inch.

• 1:21:12Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:21:12Speaker 02

  After that, I can't take anymore.

• 1:21:14Bunnie XO?

  I mean, that's 12 inches is a lot.

• 1:21:18Bunnie XO?

  Do you take that?

• 1:21:19Speaker 02

  This folder is banging.

• 1:21:20Bunnie XO?

  All right, let's finish these questions.

• 1:21:22Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Look at these fendi glasses.

• 1:21:25Bunnie XO?

  Good Lord. That is beautiful. That was a beautiful penis.

• 1:21:31Bunnie XO?

  That was a different penis, right?

• 1:21:32Speaker 02

  Oh, way different.

• 1:21:33Bunnie XO?

  Okay, I was like, that one's gorgeous.

• 1:21:34Speaker 02

  Those were three.

• 1:21:35Bunnie XO?

  I need to see who that's attached to later.

• 1:21:37Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:21:38Bunnie XO?

  I'm getting for climped.

• 1:21:39Speaker 02

  I'm in heat.

• 1:21:40Bunnie XO?

  He's for climped over here.

• 1:21:41Speaker 02

  Who's not doing merch right now?

• 1:21:43Bunnie XO?

  Jack, Jack from Sleeping With Sirens. He's over here.

• 1:21:46Speaker 02

  Never hooked up with him either.

• 1:21:47Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 1:21:48Speaker 02

  But a lot of his friends.

• 1:21:48Bunnie XO?

  We were trying to put.

• 1:21:49Speaker 02

  He's too short.

• 1:21:50Bunnie XO?

  We were trying to put bets on Alex or Jack. I was like.

• 1:21:52Speaker 02

  Neither, on God, neither. Yeah, too short.

• 1:21:54Bunnie XO?

  We'll bleep this out.

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  They're both too short.

• 1:21:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:56Speaker 02

  No, you don't have to bleep it out because I didn't.

• 1:21:58Bunnie XO?

  He said too short. What's the grossest thing that comes out of your, that has came out of your body?

• 1:22:08Speaker 02

  Huh, I'm usually really quick.

• 1:22:11Bunnie XO?

  I stumped Jeffrey.

• 1:22:14Speaker 02

  Huh.

• 1:22:15Bunnie XO?

  Jay's like, I know.

• 1:22:19Speaker 02

  I'm like, I know, because I'm like, I'm very like, I'm so clean. Like, I never sweat. I never smell. I'm so like a cleanly person. Something like going out is like, I got hair transplant surgery, so seeing my, so seeing my skin. I know this is the answer people want, but seeing the skin removed while you're awake and then having it, because you're giving yourself an organ transplant.

• 1:22:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:37Speaker 02

  And then seeing it move to the front was crazy.

• 1:22:40Bunnie XO?

  Was that painful?

• 1:22:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, fuck, yeah, it was. And it was worth every penny.

• 1:22:43Bunnie XO?

  Worth every penny? My husband wants that. And I'm like, baby.

• 1:22:45Speaker 02

  My doctor's the best in America.

• 1:22:47Bunnie XO?

  Okay. Oh, he's out here.

• 1:22:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, it takes like two or three weeks to heal. So when he's on the next album or doing something not on tour, amazing time to do it.

• 1:22:55Bunnie XO?

  All right, I'll talk to him about it.

• 1:22:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:22:57Bunnie XO?

  All right.

• 1:22:59Bunnie XO?

  We got you hooked up, Daddy.

• 1:23:00Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. We got you, baby. Doctors Daring, we love you.

• 1:23:02Bunnie XO?

  All right, would you rather make out with a dude who chews tobacco or go down on a girl on her period?

• 1:23:09Speaker 02

  Girl on a period.

• 1:23:09Bunnie XO?

  His face. I said the same thing because they could keep a tampon in. You know what I'm saying?

• 1:23:15Speaker 02

  Period.

• 1:23:15Bunnie XO?

  Exactly. And then I just the.

• 1:23:17Speaker 02

  Wyoming and all the fucking chew disgusting.

• 1:23:20Bunnie XO?

  Chew's gross or how they spit in bottles.

• 1:23:21Speaker 02

  I don't want to make out with you with that fucking tar on your gums. I'm not doing it.

• 1:23:25Bunnie XO?

  It's nasty.

• 1:23:26Speaker 02

  I'm not doing it. I don't do cigarettes. Uh-uh. And your cum tastes weird. Absolutely not.

• 1:23:30Bunnie XO?

  No, yuck. Tangy, tangy cum. It's so gross. What's your favorite song right now?

• 1:23:37Speaker 02

  Sexy Red and Suki Hood Rats.

• 1:23:40Bunnie XO?

  He loves Sexy Red.

• 1:23:41Speaker 02

  I'm obsessed with.

• 1:23:42Bunnie XO?

  Literally.

• 1:23:43Speaker 02

  Hip hop. Ooh. And then I'm, I'm, I don't even know this person. Oh my God, the penis is still on my phone. Jesus, that was big. Oh my God.

• 1:23:51Bunnie XO?

  No, it was a big penis.

• 1:23:52Speaker 02

  Oh my God, bitch. Look at the other angle.

• 1:23:53Bunnie XO?

  No, it's crazy.

• 1:23:55Speaker 02

  That was like a ten and a half.

• 1:23:56Bunnie XO?

  I love how happy you look with a dick in your mouth, though. Like you literally like it's.

• 1:24:01Speaker 02

  It's my happy place.

• 1:24:02Bunnie XO?

  Jay is over here shaking his head right now.

• 1:24:05Speaker 02

  I'm gonna shout out a newer, a newer country artist, Josh Malloy.

• 1:24:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:11Speaker 02

  Fucking incredible.

• 1:24:12Bunnie XO?

  You humped him?

• 1:24:13Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, not yet. Uh, he has a song called Met the Devil in Oklahoma.

• 1:24:17Bunnie XO?

  Okay, I haven't heard of him yet. You have to play it for us on the bus.

• 1:24:19Speaker 02

  It's cool.

• 1:24:20Bunnie XO?

  I can't wait.

• 1:24:20Speaker 02

  And I love country. I just don't do the tobacco, y'all.

• 1:24:23Bunnie XO?

  No, it's so gross.

• 1:24:24Speaker 02

  So if you want to fuck this face and use me as a basketball, no tobacco.

• 1:24:28Bunnie XO?

  Listen, and I'll tell you right now, the pictures I just saw, I've never seen a happier human with a dick in their mouth.

• 1:24:34Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:24:35Bunnie XO?

  Like you're just lit up like a Christmas tree.

• 1:24:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, besides the like doing makeup, that's my happy place.

• 1:24:39Bunnie XO?

  I love it. I love it. And I love you. I appreciate you coming on the podcast, Jeffrey.

• 1:24:44Speaker 02

  I'm so glad my knee's transplant's healed before I came here.

• 1:24:49Speaker 02

  On a real level, you guys, Bunny is a fucking queen. She's a mogul. She's an entrepreneur and I have so much respect for you and thank you for having me on your show, baby.

• 1:24:55Bunnie XO?

  For that. I appreciate you so much.

• 1:24:57Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:24:58Bunnie XO?

  You want to shout out your socia's? I'm sure everybody knows where you're, you're at.

• 1:25:00Speaker 02

  Jeffreystar.com. Jeffreystar on literally everything.

• 1:25:03Bunnie XO?

  And no OnlyFans.

• 1:25:04Speaker 02

  I'm so easy. OnlyFans offered me a lot of money. Almost did it, started doing all that type of stuff. Didn't take the deal, didn't need the money, but it was also very exciting, but it's just not time.

• 1:25:16Bunnie XO?

  Not yet.

• 1:25:17Speaker 02

  So in the future, I don't honestly know.

• 1:25:19Bunnie XO?

  Hold out like you did with TikTok.

• 1:25:20Speaker 02

  I don't have the desire to right now.

• 1:25:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:25:23Speaker 02

  Is there a tutorial coming of me the 12 inches? I think that would be hot.

• 1:25:26Bunnie XO?

  I think somebody, we need that tutorial. Cause I was told by an ex that he was the best head he ever had and I'm pretty, I like to pride myself. I can't believe that, cause it's, listen, this dude has a fucking little baby arm is what I call it. It's like a fucking huge.

• 1:25:39Speaker 02

  Anacondas have nothing on me.

• 1:25:41Bunnie XO?

  Crazy. Oh, it's gonna be a long trip back to Wyoming.

• 1:25:44Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 1:25:45Bunnie XO?

  Do we have cucumbers on the bus?

• 1:25:46Speaker 02

  All right, y'all, dislocating jaws since 1985.

• 1:25:50Bunnie XO?

  Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.