Season 8: Best Of (Part 1)

Season 8 was so good and had it all—scandal, chaos, laughter, and some of the most memorable convos yet. Bunnie and the crew pulled together some of the best moments for you, including Aubrey O'Day spilling the tea on Hollywood & the music industry, holistic queen Dani Williamson being our wellness warrior and holistic healer, and Demps keeping it raw and real about love, heartbreak, and bouncing back. Elle King lit up the room with her humor and soul, MGK took us back to his roots, and the one and only Dolly Parton graced the mic, proving why she’s the queen of everything. See you for Season 9 babies! Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Bunnie XO?

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• 0:42Bunnie XO?

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• 1:27Bunnie XO?

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• 2:11Bunnie XO?

  And not to mention, we have the visuals of the podcast. Head over to www.patreon.com/dumblon podcast and sign up.

• 2:46Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on? What's up you sexy motherfuckers?

• 2:49Speaker 01

  I love that line.

• 2:51Bunnie XO?

  I think you should do it for me.

• 2:52Speaker 01

  What's up you sexy motherfuckers?

• 2:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, baby. None other than the queen, Ms. Aubrey O'Day in the house, baby.

• 3:00Speaker 01

  Oh, thanks from one queen to another queen.

• 3:03Bunnie XO?

  Wait, can we just stand up and see this outfit?

• 3:05Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 3:06Bunnie XO?

  Please, like, we gotta appreciate this outfit. She walked in and I was like, what? Like, so cute. Look at her. She's so, yeah, baby. Ow, I love this. You look so good.

• 3:19Speaker 01

  Always like playing it down on the podcast because you're just really not supposed to do the most on podcasts.

• 3:25Bunnie XO?

  I mean, but why? Who says so?

• 3:26Speaker 01

  But I'm in Nashville at your new studio. Like, I can't not do it different this time.

• 3:32Bunnie XO?

  First guest, baby.

• 3:33Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 3:34Bunnie XO?

  You popped my cherry.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 3:36Bunnie XO?

  I love that. First guest in the new studio.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  I'm trying to think if I've ever popped a cherry before. I don't think that might be my first.

• 3:43Bunnie XO?

  I think I got paid one time to pop a cherry.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  Really?

• 3:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  Tell me about that.

• 3:46Bunnie XO?

  Back in a previous life. There was a, there was a guy who, um,

• 3:50Speaker 01

  Wait, can you pop a guy's cherry?

• 3:52Bunnie XO?

  I mean, he was a virgin.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  In his butt or like?

• 3:55Bunnie XO?

  I mean,

• 3:56Speaker 01

  Which cherry?

• 3:57Bunnie XO?

  I mean hypothetically, hypothetically speaking, um, he was a virgin and,

• 4:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, I've had sex with a virgin.

• 4:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. So you've popped cherries then?

• 4:05Speaker 01

  I popped cherries. I didn't think of it as a popped cherry, but yeah.

• 4:09Bunnie XO?

  So, you know, you go into this, this TV show and of course, you know, you've been very vocal about how Diddy treated you guys and what has happened with you guys and stuff like that. But through all these interviews that I have watched with you, there's a side of you that still protects him a little bit. Have you ever realized that?

• 4:27Speaker 01

  Oh, God, girl, I, I'm deeply in this. No interview I've done, I can even discuss how deeply in this world I'm in right now. Um.

• 4:37Bunnie XO?

  No, I mean, he's in some shit. These, these are.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I mean, I know, I know. I know way more than anyone realizes and I can't talk about anything right now.

• 4:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 4:50Speaker 01

  And so I am like, uh, busting at the fucking seams. And I'm wanting to tell everybody every day what occurs. Um, there are. Things that are developing that will, you know, allow eventually a voice to be had and I will have my motherfucking voice had.

• 5:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 5:11Speaker 01

  I just can't do it right now. And, um, that's very hard for me because I'm very much in the stage of. I don't care about playing any industry games. OnlyFans has given me. The freedom to say no to doing anything. I don't have to take a show. I don't have to get a show.

• 5:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 5:30Speaker 01

  I don't have to, uh, sell Hollywood anymore.

• 5:34Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 5:34Speaker 01

  Fuck them.

• 5:35Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 5:35Speaker 01

  I've always felt that way, but I've had to smile and tap dance for them for most of the time. I fucking hated most of my managers and agents. Most of them. Workhorse you and then put you down when the work, work isn't coming in, tell you that you're overexposed and to go sit back for a while and. For people that are used to, you were workhorseing me last year.

• 5:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  You enjoyed all the paychecks I brought you.

• 5:57Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  So you see how disposable you are.

• 6:00Bunnie XO?

  You're only as good as your last performance.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, all of it. Diddy taught us. I remember like when we first went platinum. He brought our platinum plaques out at Madison Square Garden. We were on Christina Aguilera's tour. And the next day we walk in the studio and all of us were like beaming and we were like. Holy shit. I mean, even the first time we heard our song on the radio, it was like a huge moment for us. And we walked in and met Diddy with, what the fuck are you bitches smiling about? We, we platinum albums at Madison Square Garden last night, like holy shit. And he'd be like, yeah, that was yesterday. What the fuck have you done today? And I realized what you just said was the mentality. You're only as good as what you did today.

• 6:47Speaker 01

  Yesterday doesn't matter. The whole fucking career I've built right now at this moment in entertainment. I used to build ships of my career as if one day I'm gonna get to the top of this mountain and look down and be like, wow, I have been on, starred on Broadway. I have two double platinum albums and many more that I've written, produced. Uh, I know how to shoot music videos. Then I taught myself how to be an editor and use all of the, I mean, I can go on After Effects. I mean, I did all of our music videos in Dunblon, edited all of them, shot all of them, got a USC kid to get me a red camera. Went on YouTube for two days and learned every trick you can do with no money and then did it.

• 7:29Speaker 01

  To make it look like you have a million dollar budget. And I've had, been on Hinge dates with the people that are like the heads at Sony and Paramount. And they're like, this was like, what, a million dollar budget? And I'm like, try 500. And we literally took the projector back to Walmart. All these black walls, green wall, white walls. That was my house. We painted them and then got in front of it. Like.

• 7:50Bunnie XO?

  Well, you're a hustler. You make shit happen.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:52Bunnie XO?

  You don't wait around for stuff to come to you. You go and.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  No, and I love, I love the creation part. But with all of that being said, I look, I come back from Bali now. None of that matters. Reputation doesn't even matter anymore. I didn't do so many things in my career because of reputation's sake. Even the Don Trump Jr. stuff, when that came out, I mean, I remember my entire team that was with me being like, this is devastating for you. You won't work again. You took somebody's husband is how they presented it in the press. And all I had done for years was fight with Michael Cohen to keep it out of the press and to never have anyone see it. It was not

• 8:35Speaker 01

  expected. So when it all dropped, it was so overwhelming. And now it's like, cool to fucking take somebody's husband.

• 8:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 8:44Speaker 01

  You could get millions.

• 8:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, the shit that gets you attention. Let's circle back to the.

• 8:49Speaker 01

  It's horrible.

• 8:49Bunnie XO?

  Let's circle back to the Diddy. Thing because there's a lot of people who might be listening who maybe if they live under a rock don't know who you are. And so you're

• 8:58Speaker 01

  Even Diddy, don't know who Diddy is. I walk into my OnlyFans company and they're like, who's Diddy? I'm like, really?

• 9:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  God, I am old as fuck.

• 9:05Bunnie XO?

  I've always wanted to ask you this question.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:08Bunnie XO?

  Do you think Diddy had something to do with Tupac's death?

• 9:13Speaker 01

  I think you'll find out soon. I mean, we're already finding out, right? KFC D came forward and said what he said. He was in the car during the shooting that murdered Tupac. So he probably could tell you even better than I can. They arrested him. He said what it was. He just had a whole breakout in the middle of court like last week, telling everybody that Diddy paid him a million dollars to get rid of Pac.

• 9:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  Is what he's saying.

• 9:41Bunnie XO?

  I, I feel that Diddy got rid of Pac and Biggie.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  And maybe others as well.

• 9:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. And does it scare you? How, you know, now that you are speaking out so openly and people are actually seeing that?

• 9:55Speaker 01

  Mind you, I'm not being open at all because I can't, but I appreciate you saying that.

• 10:00Bunnie XO?

  No, no, no. But now that you're speaking out as much as you can and you're like trying to open up the floor. What you are, were the forerunner of really kind of exposing Diddy. You've always done it very tastefully and tactfully, though.

• 10:12Speaker 01

  I, I had to, bitch. He could, he was.

• 10:15Bunnie XO?

  That was my next question. Like, does that scare you that you could possibly end up on one of these missing person lists because of Diddy?

• 10:24Speaker 01

  You know, I, I was asked that on a podcast and everyone was like, oh, God, fuck this girl. Tell us what you know or fuck off. Like this mentality of like, we want it now. And like, God forbid, like, I should just go on a podcast and tell the whole world what I know right now and what's happening behind the scenes versus I don't know, like, somebody who could do something about it and create justice, which is what anyone that's got a story should be doing right now.

• 10:47Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 10:48Speaker 01

  So it's like, it's puzzling to me when people like come at me so hard, but um.

• 10:54Bunnie XO?

  I mean, fuck every, what everybody thinks. This is your life. Nobody has to live in your shoes.

• 10:58Speaker 01

  No, we just have to deal with the annoyances of people's fucking opinions bothering our days sometimes.

• 11:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, I get it. Trust me.

• 11:05Speaker 01

  I mean, everyone always acts like, oh, I don't care what people say. Listen, we are forced to see it now. Whether we like it or not, we are likely going to see one of the Kardashians per day on our Instagrams if we go on it. You are going to see a Kardashian every day for the rest of your motherfucking life. Unfortunately, we all are because they pop up on the Instagram on everyone's phone daily.

• 11:24Bunnie XO?

  Do you still have a relationship with Kim? Because you guys used to be friends, right?

• 11:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, best friends. Um, no.

• 11:30Bunnie XO?

  What, what happened there? Because you, how do you go from being best friends with somebody to not?

• 11:38Speaker 01

  That's a hard one for me because they're more powerful and can make things happen more than Diddy. So I don't know that I should get into all of that.

• 11:49Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  But, um.

• 11:51Bunnie XO?

  Today, I have your, I have you guys' and my favorite holistic nurse practitioner, Ms. Dani Williamson in the house, baby.

• 12:02Speaker 02

  So glad to be here. So excited. Long overdue.

• 12:06Bunnie XO?

  Dude, last episode we had went bonkers. Everybody is obsessed with you.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Really?

• 12:11Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah. They love you. They love you. They love your hair. They love your aura. They love your spirit. They love it all. Like, we, you are probably one of the most requested comeback guests that I have.

• 12:23Speaker 02

  I had no idea. Well, thank you. Well, you know, I'm a common sense, practical medicine, country kid, right?

• 12:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 12:29Speaker 02

  From Gilbertsfield, Kentucky, who just happens to have done pretty well.

• 12:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  You know?

• 12:34Bunnie XO?

  I'm so proud of you.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  As a nurse practitioner, it's common sense, right?

• 12:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 12:37Speaker 02

  A lot of it is.

• 12:38Bunnie XO?

  Yes. I'm so proud of you. Um, if, for those of you who want to know Dani's entire story, we did that the last time she was on the podcast, so you can go check out that episode. This episode is gonna, we're gonna really like dive into some things, like a lot of you guys on my Patreon asked questions. I have questions for Dani. There's things Dani wants to talk about, so we're gonna talk about a lot of it. And Dani, you brought your book with you. Let's plug that really quick, too.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  Yes, yes.

• 13:03Bunnie XO?

  Wild and well. It's a great book.

• 13:06Speaker 02

  It is, isn't it? It's Common Sense Practical Medicine. I wrote it so that everyone from a country kid to a Harvard educated person could read it and say, whoa. Whoa, whoa, if I was born healthy, I don't have to live sick. And I can turn this around. And I am living proof after turning around 24 years of chronic lifestyle diseases that you can turn anything around.

• 13:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  Right? It's very simple, but it's not easy. As you know.

• 13:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you have to really want, like, I feel like a lot of people are like, I just want to feel better. I want to get better. But then when they're given the protocols, people don't want to put the work in. It's almost like they want their health to magically heal on their own without doing the work.

• 13:47Speaker 02

  That's exactly right. But because by nature, you know, we are pretty, we want things the easy way. Well, this is not easy. It's not easy. It's real simple, though. Garbage in equals garbage out, right?

• 14:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 14:00Speaker 02

  For me, you have to heal the gut. You have to eat well, sleep well, move well, poop well, de-stress well, you need to commune well. But for me, after seeing doctors for 24 years, I also had to address the childhood trauma. And most of my patients do. And actually, my patients' healing has gone through the roof. Once I learned about childhood trauma, well, you and I've talked about this for hours. And when, the body definitely keeps score. And for me, it manifested itself in the gut. Many of my patients, though, it manifests itself in the thyroid.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  Because this is your fifth chakra here. This is your voice. And many of these women, mainly I see women, many of these women who had childhood trauma, they lose their voice, or they feel like they don't have a voice. So they have thyroid issues, thyroid cancer, thyroid nodules, Hashimoto's thyroiditis. And this is your voice. And once we get their voice back, and we get their thyroid working better, and we address the trauma, it's amazing to watch these patients' lives just blossom.

• 15:08Bunnie XO?

  Mimi was actually just diagnosed with Hashimoto's.

• 15:11Speaker 02

  Mimi? Really?

• 15:14Bunnie XO?

  Where's the microphone?

• 15:15Speaker 02

  That's my focus. That's what I do.

• 15:17Bunnie XO?

  Where's your microphone, Mimi?

• 15:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's the number Hashimoto's thyroiditis is the number one undiagnosed autoimmune disease in the United States because it is an autoimmune disease, right? It's an autoimmune disease of the thyroid. And I don't have Hashimoto's. My trauma, my childhood trauma manifested itself in irritable bowel syndrome.

• 15:36Bunnie XO?

  I think that's my problem, which we'll talk about, but I definitely want to get into the Hashimoto's thing.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 15:41Bunnie XO?

  Mimi, if you have any questions for her, but I do know that like online, a lot of people are being diagnosed with this. And I never even knew about it. So I, I want you to kind of dive in about Hashimoto's, but also about the link from childhood trauma into autoimmune disease. Can we start there?

• 16:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. So we know that there's a huge link between childhood trauma and autoimmune disease. And I think, I don't remember the statistics off the top of my head on autoimmune disease with it. But if you have a childhood, an ACE, an adverse childhood experience score of four or more, you have a 1,200% more, greater likelihood of dying by suicide.

• 16:26Bunnie XO?

  What, um, yeah, what test is this?

• 16:28Speaker 02

  That's the ACE questionnaire, the adverse childhood experience questionnaire, the 10 question test that we did on the very first visit with you. And it talks about trauma, talks about physical abuse, mental abuse, abandonment. It's 10 questions, not perfect, developed by the CDC and Kaiser Permanente out in California.

• 16:50Speaker 02

  And addressing what happens to you before the first 18 years, right? So we know that what happens to you before the first 18 years of life can set you up for a lifetime of chronic disease and autoimmune disease and

• 17:05Bunnie XO?

  And you set a score of

• 17:06Speaker 02

  Drug addiction.

• 17:07Bunnie XO?

  And you set a score of how much or higher?

• 17:08Speaker 02

  Four or higher sets you up for 1,200% higher rate of suicide. 390% rate of higher rate of pulmonary lung disease. 200 to 400% higher rate of drug use. It's, it's greater than six, which I'm a six, you have a decreased lifespan by 20 years. And the list goes on and on and on. And it's not a perfect test. And it's in the book, like I have it in the book, but you can also get it online for free. It's a good starting point for your childhood because I spent 24 years seeing doctors. I know you've spent years seeing doctors. No one ever asked me, Dani, what happened to you before the age of 18?

• 17:51Speaker 02

  It's not normal to poop your pants every time you eat, almost. To have to know where the bathroom is at every, every restaurant that you go to. That's not normal. Something's going on and, and again, you know, I grew up with a child molester for a stepfather, one that beat me up. My mother was mentally ill. My grandfather died by suicide. That's not uncommon. I mean, we know that 67 to 75% of the population have this kind of childhood trauma.

• 18:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I mean, I feel like everybody has some sort of childhood trauma, even if you had the quote unquote, perfect.

• 18:27Speaker 02

  It's very rare that I get someone come in the office and they say, oh yeah, my childhood was phenomenal, Dani, I'm just here, just check my labs, I feel great or whatever. I mean, very rare do I have someone who said, yeah, I had the Mayberry childhood. Very rare.

• 18:41Bunnie XO?

  So childhood trauma manifests into autoimmune disorder, well, manifests into tons of things in your body. I, everybody on the podcast knows, have a problem with pooping. I cannot poop to save my life.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  So you went the opposite way, right? You didn't open up like I did, like chronic diarrhea. You clamped down.

• 19:01Bunnie XO?

  Mm hmm.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  Constipation.

• 19:03Bunnie XO?

  My butthole puckered.

• 19:04Speaker 02

  Your butthole puckered because you never knew.

• 19:09Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 19:10Speaker 02

  I'm sure my nurse practitioner school's like, oh my Lord, Dani, this is not medical. But your butthole puckered, whereas mine opened up, right? I mean, and, and because you never knew when the trauma was going to happen, right? And you hold on, you hold on to that. And it's fascinating. And I went to onsite, you know, I went to onsite for a week and spent a week at onsite doing intense trauma therapy. And that took my healing to a whole nother level. But again, everyone manifests their trauma into something different. But the thyroid is a huge one for women, huge for women.

• 19:47Bunnie XO?

  That is Hashimoto's, right?

• 19:48Speaker 02

  Hashimoto's thyroiditis and women have autoimmune disease eight to 10 times more than men do. Eight to 10 times.

• 19:57Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy.

• 19:57Speaker 02

  Now, we are also the most toxic, right? The lotion, the makeup, the hair color, the tampons. Tampons are a huge problem for women and, and.

• 20:07Bunnie XO?

  We've been screaming this and now it's finally viral on TikTok that they have lead in the tampons.

• 20:12Speaker 02

  We just had a study come out, yes, with the lead in it and heavy metals in it. And we've been talking about this for years. You and I have and, and I didn't know that. I put Roundup and bleach in my vagina for 35 years. I had no idea. I have a great education.

• 20:25Bunnie XO?

  I wear diapers now. I wear diapers now.

• 20:28Speaker 02

  I have another patient who wears diapers as well.

• 20:31Bunnie XO?

  I love it. I love it. I will fucking diaper it up no matter fucking how heavy I am. You can wear, like, you know how the pad, you used to go through pads and I would go through, because I'm heavy, I would go through multiple, multiple pads. Diapers, I literally, literally go through like maybe three my entire period.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 20:51Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 20:52Speaker 02

  Well, I never got an opportunity to try the diaper situation and I also never got an opportunity to use a menstrual cup.

• 20:58Bunnie XO?

  No, those always freaked me out because anything that goes inside of me hurts me. So I've never was brave enough to do it. Tampons even hurt me.

• 21:06Speaker 02

  Really?

• 21:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 21:07Speaker 02

  Well, tampons, tampons, I can see why because again, we know toxic, or cotton's one of the most toxic crops in the United States. It has more glyphosate sprayed on it than pretty much any other crop. And then they take that Roundup ready cotton, you're getting ready to put in your vagina for decade after decade, and they bleach it with Clorox bleach. Clorox bleach and Roundup in your vagina. And you wonder why you have heavy periods and cramping and clotting and PCOS and endometriosis and just can't get out of the bed. So, so a cup, a menstrual cup, my patients swear by a menstrual cup. I never got to use it. I don't know, I think it takes a minute to get it right. But again, autoimmune disease in women is a, it's a, a toxic burden.

• 21:50Speaker 02

  And I tell women this, I wasn't born with lupus, which I have. I wasn't born with fibromyalgia. Say you had MS or what, you know, you. weren't born with MS or you weren't born with rheumatoid arthritis, we turn that on, turn that on. And that through decades of dysfunction, most people do. Now, there's genetic component to it, right? But as a rule, it's allostatic load. And just like with Mimi, I don't know the reason for the Hashimoto's, but you know, there's probably decades of stress and maybe bad food. I don't know. Perfume, makeup, all the things you put in your thyroid. Look what you do for a living, right? We're breathing in this nose or through the nose. Here's the nose.

• 22:30Speaker 02

  Here's the thyroid. There's a proximity issue to these chemicals as well. And so it's, it's like the straw that broke the camel's back. It just builds up, builds up. It's, it's, it's, I tell patients, it's not the one time you drive through Chick-fil-A and eat a chicken sandwich, right? It's the decades of driving through fast food or, you know, chronic stress. And then it builds up and boom, it tips over and it's like herding cats, trying to get them all back in, trying to get it all back together. And, and it's difficult. I know. I spent 24 years seeing doctors, 10 doctors, before a doctor looked at me and said, what are you eating? You know, and

• 23:10Bunnie XO?

  Is there a way to reverse Hashimoto's?

• 23:12Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 23:13Bunnie XO?

  I've been studying for Mimi to try to figure out like a, something we could do, but I wanted to wait till

• 23:19Speaker 02

  This is my specialty.

• 23:21Bunnie XO?

  What was the first thing I told you?

• 23:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, she goes, you're going to see Danny.

• 23:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:25Speaker 02

  So we reverse it every month in the office. And I get patients who come in who their endocrinologists tell them, oh, there's nothing you can do about it. We don't ever need to check your thyroid antibodies again. You're never going to be able to lower those antibodies. So what happens with Hashimoto's thyroiditis, you have these thyroid antibodies that quote, unquote, it's attacking the thyroid, right? Like with me with lupus, it attacks my joints. And so, but it's really not attacking it, but it's an inflammatory response. Hashimoto's thyroiditis, vasculitis, thyroiditis, gastritis, colitis, itis means inflammation. So it's an inflammatory response. The thyroid is inflamed, right?

• 24:10Speaker 02

  Not the prostate, not the joints, it's the thyroid that's inflamed. So you cool it down, just like you do any other autoimmune disease. Right? And yes, you can reverse it. Yes, you can bring those antibodies down. What's the number one trigger for Hashimoto's? Food wise, number one trigger for Hashimoto's to raise those antibodies up.

• 24:32Bunnie XO?

  Gut health?

• 24:33Speaker 02

  Well, gluten, gluten, number one food. Yes. Well, your gut health, yes. Gluten is the number one inflammatory agent for Hashimoto's thyroiditis.

• 24:42Bunnie XO?

  I feel like gluten is-

• 24:43Speaker 02

  Gluten cross reacts with those thyroid antibodies, creating an inflammatory response in that thyroid. So the first thing that you do as a patient of mine, in any book you read on Hashimoto's, you cut gluten out immediately. And your doctors will say, there's no research on that. That's bullshit. There are decades of research, Mimi, on gluten and thyroid and dairy and thyroid. Gluten and dairy.

• 25:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 25:09Speaker 02

  I ask my patients to go gluten and dairy free, to start bringing down the inflammatory response in the thyroid. And we watch those thyroglobulin antibodies come down and those thyroid peroxidase antibodies come down. So your people who are listening, if they're just getting a TSH checked, a thyroid stimulating hormone checked, they need a new provider, because that's only like one-fifth of the labs that you need checked to check your thyroid properly.

• 25:38Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 25:39Speaker 02

  TSH, free T3, free T4, which we check on you all the time, right? Those are your free thyroid hormones that are circulating around, they're active. And then your thyroid peroxidase antibodies and your thyroglobulin antibodies. Not everybody has both of those positive for Hashimoto's, but 90% of the people who have Hashimoto's have a positive thyroid peroxidase antibody.

• 26:05Bunnie XO?

  That segues into my next thing about, what is it called? Tri- tri-zeptide? I'm thinking about doing tri-zeptide because I want to lose a couple pounds, but I also want to regulate my blood sugar. How do you feel about semaglutide, tri-zeptide and all that stuff?

• 26:21Speaker 02

  On the spot.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  All right. I think there's a place for it. Absolutely, there's a place for it. And it has changed many of my patients' lives.

• 26:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 26:33Speaker 02

  I'm not prescribing it. I'm doing a tiny bit through a compounding pharmacy here for a few people that's sublingual. So it's under the tongue. It's not an injection.

• 26:42Bunnie XO?

  I want to microdose it. I don't want to do.

• 26:44Speaker 02

  Well, it's microdosing it. So I just barely started it. And it's been several years, right? That this has been popular because I really feel like you need to know exactly what you're doing. And I didn't have time. Honestly, my mom is dying and all. But no. My gynecologist, I went in there the other day to see her. She looks unbelievable. And she told me, she said, we're doing.

• 27:04Bunnie XO?

  Trisepotide.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  Trisepotide. I just, um, trisepotide, Dani. And she said, I would highly recommend you get into it. And I said, okay. So she was telling me that, you know, all the benefits and how her patients, not everyone, not everyone's a candidate for it.

• 27:19Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 27:20Speaker 02

  But the blood sugar regulation benefits of that. Now, do we have long-term studies on all of this to see? No, we don't.

• 27:30Bunnie XO?

  No. And that's what scares me because I've been doing a ton of research.

• 27:33Speaker 02

  Which is why I haven't done it yet with patients.

• 27:36Bunnie XO?

  I know. I'm waiting for you to hop on the horn.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  I know. I know. But then I'd, yes, yes. But I think that that's, that's a really great one. I mean, I've got patients on, I mean, they're on everything from metformin to Wegovy to the one that right now that.

• 27:52Bunnie XO?

  I've read so many bad things about metformin and the side effects.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  I was on it for a long.

• 27:56Speaker 02

  Were you?

• 27:57Speaker 03

  I mean, not even, I can't, you know, I take that back. It wasn't long, long because I couldn't handle it. I literally had to come to my doctor and said, you're killing me.

• 28:05Speaker 02

  Diarrhea? Was it diarrhea?

• 28:07Speaker 03

  I mean, everything. It was coming out of every hole. I was like, literally becoming, I was becoming like, to the point that like, I made myself sick because I couldn't even drink a glass of water without it just coming somewhere.

• 28:20Speaker 02

  Oh, gosh.

• 28:21Speaker 03

  So they were like, okay, well, we'll try you on the slow release. Okay, now take it at this time. Now try this. We'll put you on the lowest. I was on the lowest dose on the like, slow release of it. It still could not keep anything within my body.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  Then it's not your thing.

• 28:34Speaker 03

  Exactly. And so I hadn't been on anything until recently. I did go on trisepotide. And I can handle it. I can fully handle it.

• 28:43Speaker 02

  I hear great things about trisepotide. I do.

• 28:47Bunnie XO?

  Do you know the difference between, what's the difference between semaglutide, Ozempic, and trisepotide? Isn't it all the same thing?

• 28:53Speaker 03

  Semaglutide is Ozempic.

• 28:54Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 28:54Speaker 03

  Monjaro is trisepotide.

• 28:56Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 28:57Speaker 03

  So it's the hormone receptors, it's what it's blocking. So that's why they're using trisepotide for addicts, because it blocks two hormone receptors versus a semaglutide only stops one of them.

• 29:08Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 29:09Speaker 03

  So like people who are addicted to, you know, they put them on the Suboxone a lot of the times.

• 29:14Speaker 02

  Yes, yes.

• 29:14Speaker 03

  Instead of Suboxone, they're trying the trisepotide.

• 29:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:17Speaker 03

  Because it does, and I will be honest, I was on the semaglutide to begin with, I could still feel some of my food noise. Trisepotide, zero.

• 29:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have a patient who's, who went out to LA and is on, at Monjaro, the same thing. And she said it completely took away the food noise in her. And she, I didn't think she needed to lose any weight anyway. She looks fantastic.

• 29:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:43Speaker 02

  And she said, you know, she'll start weaning off of it now. But here's where, here's where I'm still skeptical on so many, so much of this is you have to change the root cause to whatever's going on with you, once we stop this, right? Or your portion, where your portion size is too big? Were you eating too many carbs, right? Were you not eating enough protein? Were you not exercising? Was your stress level through the roof, right? Are you not sleeping at night? I mean, I think sleeping is almost equally as important as your diet. You know, are you eating real food? Are you still driving through, you know, fast food and you're getting your food out of somebody's window? Well, that's not

• 30:22Speaker 02

  real food. So we have to change all the emotional things that go on around food, once we stop this. Once you stop your GLP-1, whatever it is you're taking. And, and I don't know that everyone's doing that.

• 30:37Speaker 03

  No.

• 30:37Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  So I'm worried about people losing a tremendous amount of weight, which you don't have a tremendous amount of weight to lose. You don't have a tremendous amount of weight to lose, but then gaining more weight back.

• 30:47Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 30:47Speaker 02

  Because you didn't fix the root cause.

• 30:50Bunnie XO?

  Well, I do all of those things.

• 30:52Speaker 02

  Yes, you do.

• 30:53Bunnie XO?

  Um, but my thing is, is I want, I want to lose about five to 10 pounds. Okay. But I also want to, I feel like I've hit a plateau. I'm sitting at in between 155 and 160. And I've been here since January, that wild yam cream. Yes. Everybody has all of these great reviews about wild yam cream. That shit fucked me up. You know, I'm always going to be honest about it. It did not do good for me. Like it literally, it made me feel terrible. And it also made me like, um, now that I've gotten off of it, I've been off of it probably about three months. I am the skinniest and tightest on my period. And anytime, any was the minute I'm off my period, I'm swollen. I feel inflamed. Like I hate it. It like has made me reversed.

• 31:35Bunnie XO?

  We gotta talk about this on the podcast. We're just wasting all this great material because we're not getting started. Ready? We're ready. Okay. Oh, hello. Hi.

• 31:51Bunnie XO?

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• 32:58Speaker 04

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• 33:29Bunnie XO?

  Oh, what's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. We were just sitting here, I'm yelling at my fucking crew, because I'm like, Ty May was testing everything, making sure everything was perfect. And I was just like, we're just sitting here, just spilling the beans to each other, because I like to have authentic reactions for everything. Ask anybody on my team, ask anybody who comes over as a guest, don't talk to me, don't tell me anything until these mics are on. And so they were like bringing up fucking funny points and anyways, it's the day after Thanksgiving and I'm working. I'm so thrilled to be here, as long, I'm sure you guys can tell and hear it in my voice, that I got a lot of sleep last night.

• 34:08Speaker 03

  You screamed and shook your ass all Thanksgiving, bro. You did a lot of karaoke. I'm actually proud.

• 34:13Bunnie XO?

  I didn't do a lot of karaoke. I joined in, but I, from afar.

• 34:18Speaker 03

  You were, that's what I'm saying, dude. Every time I turned around, you were shaking it.

• 34:21Bunnie XO?

  I mean, I was having fun.

• 34:22Speaker 03

  Shuffling off on the side.

• 34:23Bunnie XO?

  I was having fun, man. Thanksgiving is our time to let loose.

• 34:26Speaker 03

  Yes, it was a good one.

• 34:27Bunnie XO?

  We did another annual D4 Thanksgiving last night and the house was full. We had probably like, what, how many people do you think were there?

• 34:34Speaker 03

  Oh, gosh. Like, I feel like it comes in like waves, so like throughout the night, I would say like 50 to 60 people. At one point, it got real full. Yeah, at one point, you couldn't even move around, but then like people come and go, like you kind of have like the elders in the beginning. And then like the day kind of, the night progresses. The party starts.

• 34:53Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 34:54Speaker 03

  When Dolph came out, it was like.

• 34:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 34:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:58Bunnie XO?

  When, yeah, as soon as the rap started, Bailey broke out the rap way early. She did the Kendrick Lamar.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I was like, that's my girl. You know, I was like, go baby, go. Killing it. No, she was really good. She's baby roll. She's little baby roll. She can rap her ass off.

• 35:14Speaker 03

  Yes, absolutely. The Glorilla was my favorite.

• 35:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, she can rap. But yeah, no, I love doing the D Ford family Thanksgiving because it's really been a tradition that we started and Bailey looks forward to it every year. There were so many times she came up to me last night and she was like, Mom, I, I love Thanksgiving here. Like she went to Thanksgiving at her other family's houses and she was texting me, I can't wait to come and do our Thanksgiving, you know, so. I, I even told Jay, because you know, Jay had to perform at the Dallas Cowboys game. So we had to push it back this year and we were contemplating not doing it. And I just looked at him and I was like, baby, I love you. You gotta go do your thug thizzle.

• 35:53Bunnie XO?

  But Thanksgiving is so important to Bailey and I want to make sure that we, you know, keep this tradition going just for her. Cause I mean, we've only got her for like, what, one more Thanksgiving and then she's going to be in fucking college.

• 36:04Speaker 03

  Oh my God, don't make me cry.

• 36:06Bunnie XO?

  It's crazy.

• 36:08Speaker 03

  You guys are like the Heidi Klum of Thanksgiving.

• 36:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I love it. Without the red carpet.

• 36:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like an honor to be invited to this Thanksgiving.

• 36:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. It gets bigger each year, too. People wise, too. Yeah.

• 36:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 36:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, the names just keep getting crazier and crazier.

• 36:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I love it. But you know what's so fun is nobody took out their phone last night to do a TikTok. Not one person tried to like, take advantage of the moment. Nobody self-eat it up. Like everybody just had fun. I still haven't even posted about Thanksgiving and that's so unlike us, you know, like, I don't know. I just think we just are starting. We lived in the moment last night. We did live in the moment and I think what's happening also is that we're starting to cherish our private moments because, you know, we don't get a lot of them because we share so much of ourselves with everybody that it's like when we do get those private moments, it's just like, oh, this is, this is beautiful. This is what family and friends is all about. So.

• 37:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, most definitely. There, there are like a few videos out there, but like the night was like so consisted of us just laughing.

• 37:12Speaker 05

  I really forgot to record a lot because I was just so

• 37:16Bunnie XO?

  Well, you started drinking tequila, Jell-O, tequila shots at fucking 4pm.

• 37:20Speaker 05

  I had to.

• 37:21Speaker 03

  You made, she made the cutest pumpkin pie Jell-O shot.

• 37:24Speaker 05

  But it was orange.

• 37:25Speaker 03

  It's like pumpkin pie, but with tequila.

• 37:27Bunnie XO?

  Oh, wait, hold on, hold on, I got something for you. Hold on.

• 37:31Speaker 05

  Oh, I know what's about to be pulled up.

• 37:34Bunnie XO?

  You don't know what's about to be pulled up. You don't.

• 37:36Speaker 05

  Yes, I do.

• 37:37Bunnie XO?

  Okay, are you willing?

• 37:39Speaker 05

  The video at losers?

• 37:41Bunnie XO?

  No. Are you willing to make a wager on it?

• 37:44Speaker 03

  I don't feel like she is now.

• 37:47Bunnie XO?

  How much you wanna bet real quick, since you know what I'm about to pull up?

• 37:51Speaker 05

  Fifty dollars.

• 37:52Bunnie XO?

  Let's bet one month's salary.

• 37:54Speaker 05

  Okay, no.

• 37:56Bunnie XO?

  Alright, ready?

• 38:01Bunnie XO?

  So many pumpkin pies.

• 38:05Bunnie XO?

  Pumpkin pies with tequila.

• 38:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:08Speaker 05

  Oh, I thought you were gonna pull up the other video.

• 38:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh, we could, I mean, we could talk about it. Let's talk about it. So Bridgestone was Papa Bear's last show and it was phenomenal. There was Snoop Dogg, Post Malone, Morgan Wallen, Ernest, Kelsea Ballerini was there.

• 38:27Speaker 03

  John B.

• 38:28Bunnie XO?

  Who?

• 38:29Speaker 03

  John B.

• 38:29Bunnie XO?

  Bring it home, John B. I love them. I think Kelsea Ballerini and her dude Chase are so frickin' cute. Like, they are genuinely in love. Like genuinely, they can't take their eyes off of each other. He's obsessed with her.

• 38:43Speaker 05

  I love it.

• 38:43Bunnie XO?

  It is the cutest thing I've ever seen and every time he even moves around the room, her eyes follow him. And I, it's like, I get kind of like sad because I remember how that's how Jay and I used to be. You know, Jay and I have been together almost a decade. So, you know, the honeymoon's been over, but it's like you can see that they're still on their honeymoon stage and it's just like the cutest thing ever. So I really, I really love them together and they're two of the just most wholesome people.

• 39:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, most definitely. Skylar Gray was there too.

• 39:10Bunnie XO?

  Skylar Gray.

• 39:11Speaker 05

  She sounded so good.

• 39:12Speaker 03

  Sounded so good.

• 39:14Bunnie XO?

  What a phenomenal woman, though. Like, she's so powerful and just her presence and she's so sweet.

• 39:20Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 39:20Bunnie XO?

  And her dude, her dude too, cool. Just like, everybody is just.

• 39:24Speaker 05

  Fucking Keith Urban was there.

• 39:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:25Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 39:26Speaker 05

  Why can't we forget?

• 39:27Bunnie XO?

  Him and his frickin' highlights, just glowing in the frickin' lights on the stage. His hair is like just waves of gold spun thread. Like it's just like they just literally it's like, you know, he looks like he has the Christmas tinsel in his hair.

• 39:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:43Bunnie XO?

  Those highlights we highlighting.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. No, we love fucking Keith.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  I love him. The boys, it was really funny because I got this on video. They wouldn't leave his side. So Jack and Casey were just like right there shredding next to him.

• 39:57Bunnie XO?

  They wouldn't leave. The entire song, the boys stayed right next to Keith. Like normally they walk around the stage and they show off, but literally they were just like looking over at Keith. And it was the cutest thing because the boys don't ever really fan out. They don't fanboy out. But as soon as Keith Urban hit that stage, they were, they just wanted to pick guitars with Keith Urban.

• 40:16Speaker 03

  Can we talk about fucking Cody?

• 40:19Bunnie XO?

  Sea walking?

• 40:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, up on the stage.

• 40:21Speaker 05

  How did I miss that?

• 40:22Bunnie XO?

  Let's just talk about the dog father was in the house, baby.

• 40:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:26Bunnie XO?

  I literally have never been nervous to meet another celebrity in my life besides Dolly. And I fricking meet Snoop, motherfucking DOG dude. Are you kidding me?

• 40:37Speaker 03

  All in the same week?

• 40:38Bunnie XO?

  And the sweetest thing, the sweetest man, like he for real is unk dude.

• 40:44Speaker 03

  Dude, he was so genuinely nice.

• 40:48Bunnie XO?

  So his whole team, his whole team, shout out to his whole team. They're just so sweet. I was so nervous because we got, we got it on video and it's the cutest clip, but I'm like asking Snoop Dogg. I'm like, we're taking a picture together. And I'm like, you know, if you wanted to do a Tik Tok, it'd be even cooler. He's like, I'm following you. I was like, oh, I was like so excited and but I was so nervous that I couldn't like, my mind went blank. I'm like, what song do I do with fucking Snoop Dogg that I know, you know? And I mean, I know all his old shit. So of course, and so his creative, I don't know if it was like his creative director or his videographer. I forget his name. It was like SAC, right? SAC I believe was his name. Came up to me and I was gonna do Lottie Dottie and I was like, no, I need something with more ums. So he starts naming off songs and he's like, nothing but a G thing. I was like, oh my God, I love you.

• 41:29Speaker 03

  Have we all forgotten that? You just went blank.

• 41:31Bunnie XO?

  Literally, I'm like shaking. And the sweetest thing that he did was Snoop gave Jay and I these matching rings. Um, and there are crowns, like gold crowns with I think like diamonds in it. And he gave one to Jay and he said, I have one for your lady too, and gave me one too. So the whole night Jay wore it on stage at the Dallas Cowboy halftime show. He wears it on his ring finger. So.

• 41:58Bunnie XO?

  Let's talk about what everybody wants to hear about. The Dolly interview.

• 42:04Speaker 03

  The fact that we hung out with Dolly and Snoop in the same week.

• 42:08Bunnie XO?

  Bro, bro, like, what is life?

• 42:11Speaker 03

  What?

• 42:12Bunnie XO?

  What is life? It is crazy. Dolly is the sweetest little cupcake that I have ever met. It was. Sweet little dirty. Yeah, no, no, she's actually got a, she reminds me a lot of my personality. We both have that smart ass, kind of like dirty mentality. I don't know if I can use the dirty in Dolly in the same sentence because that's not. Spicy. Yes, she is spicy. She's so spicy and so cute and she is sharp as a damn tack. Yes. That woman is almost 80 years old and she is a powerhouse. She walks in stilettos, wears the cutest little catsuits. She has the tiniest little feet I've ever seen.

• 42:57Speaker 03

  Really?

• 42:58Bunnie XO?

  Her feet have got to be like a size four, size four, size five. Like she's got the tiniest little, little, just.

• 43:04Speaker 03

  She, her little, her waist was wasting.

• 43:07Bunnie XO?

  I mean, what waist? She had none. It was crazy.

• 43:10Speaker 03

  It's like so.

• 43:11Bunnie XO?

  It's like my left leg. Yeah. No.

• 43:14Speaker 03

  My thigh.

• 43:14Bunnie XO?

  She's just the cutest little pack, package wrapped in blonde hairs. Like she's just so sweet and I was shook. I'm talking like the entire morning I had to do box breathing and I was just so nervous. And I don't know if I was just because I was like inside my head, but I was just like, oh my God. You know, like this is everything I've ever wanted since I've started this podcast. And, you know, naming the podcast after Dolly, Dolly's first radio hit was, you know, it was an oxymoron all in itself and it just was a perfect, you know, storm. And, um, this was such a full circle moment and sitting down with her, I never read off cue cards ever, but it's like when you're so nervous, your mind goes blank.

• 43:58Bunnie XO?

  So I literally had a stack of cue cards with my whole interview on it that Mimi had made me. And in the beginning, you can sense how nervous I am. I've ever seen you that nervous.

• 44:09Speaker 03

  Never seen you that nervous ever.

• 44:11Bunnie XO?

  Like, I'm a very relaxed interviewer, you know, like, I love everybody who sits on my couch, but to be in her studio.

• 44:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, let's talk about that, too. So like, Dolly is such a G. You go to Dolly.

• 44:24Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 44:24Speaker 03

  And I think that is so beautiful.

• 44:26Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 44:26Speaker 03

  You literally go to her. So it was really amazing. I gotta give the flowers or flowers to do because her team was so.

• 44:34Bunnie XO?

  Team is on it.

• 44:35Speaker 03

  Amazing.

• 44:36Bunnie XO?

  So good.

• 44:37Speaker 03

  Everyone in it was so welcoming, accommodating. They like forced Jamie to get breakfast at an omelet bar. They were like, get the omelet.

• 44:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 44:46Speaker 03

  You know, and so, but we went to their space and like, they really were like, what can we do to help you elevate this and make this how you want it?

• 44:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 44:55Speaker 03

  To portray dumb blonde. They requested your dumb blonde sign.

• 44:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 44:58Speaker 03

  Which I thought was cute. They requested your microphones. Like, I absolutely love that, but like.

• 45:03Bunnie XO?

  Dolly talked on one of those microphones.

• 45:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, uh, no, it's the silver, your OG one. Your OG.

• 45:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 45:10Speaker 03

  Dumb blonde one, so.

• 45:12Bunnie XO?

  No, it was so funny. I walked in because I didn't know all my microphones were gonna be there. And I was like, oh, my God, I love her microphone. And then I was like, oh, it's mine.

• 45:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I was like, oh, my God. But yeah, it was, um, you guys are gonna be pleasantly surprised. So with this podcast, you know, Dolly had, she's a workhorse. Like I am. And before she had done the podcast, she had already done three other things. The podcast was the last of her things of the day. And we got allotted forty five minutes with her. And her and I just started talking and like, she had some of the most incredible answers. And like, you know, when Dolly speaks, you don't cut her off. So I didn't get to finish the entire interview. But Dolly had so much fun that they're bringing me back for a part two. In February, so twenty twenty five, um, to sit down and finish the interview with her and just hopefully this can unfold into something else.

• 46:04Bunnie XO?

  She even said she wanted to do a Christmas song with me. I don't know if she meant that or not. I'm just gonna put it in the air because I think that would be freaking amazing.

• 46:13Speaker 03

  Iconic.

• 46:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, iconic, but I'm just so happy that it happened. And shout out to Danny Nozell, her management, her um

• 46:22Speaker 03

  Ollie.

• 46:22Bunnie XO?

  Publicist is Marcell, Ollie. Is Ollie her like day to day manager?

• 46:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, all love Ollie.

• 46:30Speaker 03

  Love Ollie.

• 46:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, Jen Vecchio for putting this all together, our publicist and you know, just making this happen. It was incredible and I can't, I'm just so grateful and so thankful.

• 46:42Speaker 03

  We are too. It's unreal. Yeah. We got her cookbooks.

• 46:46Bunnie XO?

  We got her cookbook.

• 46:47Speaker 05

  They gave me a bottle of her wine.

• 46:49Bunnie XO?

  We got her frickin' perfume.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  Makeup.

• 46:52Bunnie XO?

  We got her makeup. Yeah, like we smell like Dolly now.

• 46:55Speaker 03

  Yeah. We all walk around.

• 46:56Speaker 05

  We all walked in smelling like her.

• 46:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. We did. We like coated ourselves and walked in.

• 47:01Bunnie XO?

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• 48:03Bunnie XO?

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• 49:16Speaker 01

  What's up babes?

• 49:17Bunnie XO?

  What is happening?

• 49:19Speaker 01

  Man, as I was walking in here, I was like, why does it seem like every fucking time I'm on this couch or anything I got like, I'm just going through something, dude.

• 49:28Bunnie XO?

  Going through some sort of breakup. Last time you were here, it was you and Cat Daddy were going through it. And then I think you guys kind of like, didn't you guys reunite a little bit after the podcast?

• 49:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, after the podcast, we kind of like, we were mutuals, but then we weren't mutuals. I mean, there was like a whole thing to where his friends tried to jump me out of fucking bar. That was all over the fucking internet. Dimp's gets kicked out of a bar and all of that. But yeah, I think I um, I left him blocked after that.

• 49:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. So you guys aren't cool. Nobody from that side is cool. You guys are just not cool.

• 50:02Speaker 01

  I haven't talked to him. I hope all is well, though.

• 50:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:05Speaker 01

  Hope he's taking care of that kitten I bought him.

• 50:07Bunnie XO?

  Now that you're going through another breakup, do you think that you would rekindle anything with Cat Daddy?

• 50:13Speaker 01

  No.

• 50:13Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 50:14Speaker 01

  And you know, it's funny because in some of the comments, people, my followers were like, we need Cat Daddy. And he commented, he was like, I've been summoned. I was like, oh, hell no, motherfucker. Hell no.

• 50:27Bunnie XO?

  He's like, you know who he is? You know what he is? You know, those guys that go and clean up roadkill on the road? It's like, it's like, he knows that you're vulnerable right now. So he's like, hello.

• 50:38Speaker 01

  I'm just like, hell no. And I'm so happy I have him blocked because you know, uh, the past two weeks, I've been in a very vulnerable state and I can honestly say, I mean, I've never seen Myself like this. I mean, I had to check myself, girl. I looked at myself in the mirror. I was like, you need to get your fucking shit together. Um, so I knew I was in a vulnerable, vulnerable place. I probably would have felt for his shit.

• 51:02Bunnie XO?

  Oh, son of a bitch.

• 51:03Speaker 01

  Recycled, girl.

• 51:05Bunnie XO?

  Do not fucking do it.

• 51:07Speaker 01

  We would have just like been back here in like three more weeks talking about this.

• 51:11Bunnie XO?

  No. What about the shit with, with, we'll block her name out, but are you cool with? No, you guys are just.

• 51:17Speaker 01

  No, but it's so crazy because after all that happened, you know, Todd was there and all his friends were there. And after all that, the dust settled. I mean, you guys saw somebody vandalized my home, right? They wrote clout chaser on the back of my home.

• 51:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, we're gonna talk about all that because now you can actually talk about it.

• 51:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, now I can talk about it.

• 51:37Bunnie XO?

  Okay, perfect. Yeah.

• 51:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:38Bunnie XO?

  Cause I know before when you had come on the podcast, we were tiptoeing around it because you had a court case going on.

• 51:42Speaker 01

  Mm hmm. And I won.

• 51:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, baby.

• 51:45Speaker 01

  Fucking nuts.

• 51:47Bunnie XO?

  Light always wins over darkness, man.

• 51:49Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, Bunny, it's been a minute since I've done like, I mean, obviously I text you and everything, but to like really get it out.

• 51:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 51:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. So after the whole, my home getting vandalized and all of that, I, um, just took a step back. And I didn't reach out to anybody, but it's so funny because I saw some of them singing my songs. And I ignored it. I thought they were like, kind of being petty about it, but they were like, no, this is actually a great song, bitch on wine and all of that. I was like, y'all are just, see, I'm a good fucking Tom and a good person. If you guys weren't such fucking dicks to me, okay?

• 52:25Bunnie XO?

  Well, I also think that, I don't want to use the word jealousy, but sometimes when there's men involved too, it just makes a whole fucking. You know, one of them had the audacity to show up to one of my husband's shows. I was actually quite, remember I text her, I was like, you want me to kick her out? Cause I will. And you're so sweet. You were like, no. And I was like, all right, she lives to see another day.

• 52:44Speaker 01

  I was like, no.

• 52:45Bunnie XO?

  You are showing up at my husband's, uh, fucking concert was very ballsy of you, especially knowing that I ride for Dimp's all day long.

• 52:52Speaker 01

  My girl. But other than like that whole thing, I just, um, it was like New. Years of last year, I literally started to um just kind of heal a little bit. But then for some reason, some fucking reason, I run into somebody who's friends with my ex. And I, mind you, I have him blocked, but I started Snapchatting him.

• 53:16Bunnie XO?

  Which ex is this? Most current one, okay.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  I don't wanna like give him so much clout or whatever.

• 53:22Bunnie XO?

  Here, let's change his name. What are we gonna call him? Let's call him Bill.

• 53:26Speaker 01

  Bill. Dated Bill.

• 53:28Bunnie XO?

  Alright, not Bill? Okay, let's think of something else. Yeah, we don't wanna call him, because my dad's name is Bill. Let's call him Ron.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  Ron. Love it. Fucking Ron.

• 53:37Bunnie XO?

  So was this Ron we're talking about?

• 53:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, so right after cat daddy and all that, New Year's is um around, and I was like, man, I don't. I just need to keep doing me and just keep pushing forward because, you know, Todd, I mean, that fucker, like, yeah, he broke my heart, but screw him.

• 53:55Bunnie XO?

  Did he really break your heart though?

• 53:56Speaker 01

  No, he actually did.

• 53:57Bunnie XO?

  I'm like, Dimp, come on. I'm like, I know you way better than that.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  Long story short, um, obviously, I love attention. I mean, I'm a Leo.

• 54:06Bunnie XO?

  You're a Leo, yeah. You know, we're gonna do your birth chart today, because I need to figure out what the fuck's wrong with you.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 54:15Bunnie XO?

  We're getting to the bottom of it today, everybody. I need to figure out what the fuck is going on with Dimp's inside her fucking body and mind and heart. And then we're gonna figure out who will be, we're gonna figure out who will be a soulmate for you, once I get all your D's, so we'll figure it out.

• 54:29Speaker 01

  Good, maybe I can get some fucking answers and some sleep tonight, girl.

• 54:33Bunnie XO?

  We're manifesting.

• 54:34Speaker 01

  So, long story short, Bill, Ron.

• 54:37Bunnie XO?

  Ron.

• 54:37Speaker 01

  Ron. Ron and I rekindled things, and it was very simple in the beginning. It was just like, hey.

• 54:43Bunnie XO?

  You started Snapchatting him, okay. And like, what made you even wanna reopen that door? Because if I can remember correctly, and this is why I never came around, because I didn't like the dude, is, didn't he do some fuckboy shit the first time around? What did he do?

• 54:57Speaker 01

  And you know what's crazy? I always kept my mouth shut. I never aired my laundry. I'd let you talk your shit on. I let you just take in all the energy that you want to, and then I'm just gonna go over here and do my thing. I'm not.

• 55:10Speaker 05

  One to even with Todd, I was like, fuck you, dude.

• 55:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 55:13Speaker 05

  Um, yeah, so he was just in a fuckboy stage. And I, I, I'm the type of person, I think that somebody's gonna change. You know what I mean?

• 55:22Bunnie XO?

  Or that you can change them.

• 55:23Speaker 05

  Or I can change them. I said this recently. I was like, I don't know what it is when I date these men. That they just need love so bad and I have so much love to give. Because I'm, I'm a mom myself and I, I wanna be loved. You know what I mean? But why is it every time I date someone, I'm the masculine one in the relationship?

• 55:44Bunnie XO?

  Because you're in your masculine energy, baby. And your masculine energy attracts feminine men.

• 55:49Speaker 05

  Oh, my god.

• 55:50Bunnie XO?

  And until you change that, you're gonna keep attracting feminine men.

• 55:55Speaker 05

  But Bunny, it's literally a recurrence and I had a wake up call. I literally, when I was, two weeks ago, I was like, bitch, you need to pull yourself fucking together. I was like, what is it that I'm attracting these men? Because I know what I want and I know what my daughter deserves and I know what I deserve. And it's, it's a shame because you know, if anything, I know I'm being played as a victim. And I know he's saying some things that like, oh, Demp's just loves to be a victim. If I'm a victim of anything, it's for me to just over communicating. Because I set this guy down in my kitchen.

• 56:33Bunnie XO?

  Well, let's, let's circle back to when you guys first broke up. Why did you guys first break up?

• 56:38Speaker 05

  Who's a fuckboy?

• 56:39Bunnie XO?

  Well, let's be honest, what did he do?

• 56:41Speaker 05

  Uh, he just wasn't giving me the attention that I needed. And I remember being at a show. I remember being at a show with him. Mind you, I went and got a babysitter, got all dolled up.

• 56:51Bunnie XO?

  This is the first time you guys broke up. Okay.

• 56:54Speaker 05

  It takes a lot for me to.

• 56:56Bunnie XO?

  Demp, silence your damn phone.

• 56:57Speaker 05

  Trying, but thank.

• 57:01Speaker 05

  It takes a lot for me to go out of my way and go on a date with a guy. Okay, let me just start there. Okay, I'm finding the babysitter. It's my time, my energy to go out with you. I remember going out with this guy that night. He didn't acknowledge me once and talked to a girl the whole time that I was out with him. And I was like, you know.

• 57:21Bunnie XO?

  I don't fucking need this. I need, I'm just gonna go the fuck home. And I remember him calling me at three AM or two AM or something like that. And I remember being so excited, oh my God, he called me. What does he want? Like, he wants to talk to me. Oh, he's missing me. No, girl. He, there was somebody that wanted to talk to me. That he was with, because he was dating Dems, whatever. So he let you go home? Mm-hmm. So that right there didn't show you that he was in it for clout?

• 57:51Bunnie XO?

  No, girl. How did that, I would have been like, click and never answered the fucking phone for that man ever again, girl. I think I am so gullible. That like, I'll just believe, like, if you say I'm beautiful and all this, I'm gonna fucking believe you. I'm gonna fall at my knees and be like, oh my gosh. But that is a major ick. The man let you leave, you went home because you felt like you were being ignored, and then he calls you and is like, hey, can you talk to this person? Because I'm telling them that I'm dating you, but I'm not treating you like I'm dating you. That's like a fucking ew. So I blocked him for two years. Brother ew. And then I unblocked him after the whole Todd thing, but- Because you were in a vulnerable state. But can I be honest with you, Bunny? Yeah.

• 58:36Bunnie XO?

  I think the reason why um, I was so upset with myself is because I never gave grace after the Todd, how he treated me. And this. Yeah. With him, Ron. So I was just so mad at myself, all this anger, and I'm like, I'm a fucking great person. Ron, when you say, I thought you- Oh, can you silence this shit, Ron? I crack up when I hear that. So I'm a great fucking person. So it's just like, why the fuck does this keep fucking happening to me? Yeah. I don't get it. Seriously, do you see the, between the lines? Can you fucking tell me? Dems, you have something that, some sort of trauma in you that needs to be

• 59:19Bunnie XO?

  addressed before you can even get into the type of relationship that you yearn for. Yes, your heart and your mind want a certain type of relationship, but because there's something that happened maybe in your childhood or in a, in a relationship that triggered some sort of trauma in you, you're going to keep seeking out that same type of man until you can figure out what's going on inside of you, you know? Yeah. That's what I tried to tell you last time. I just, it was a shame that things ended-

• 59:47Speaker 05

  The way it did and um I'm not gonna ba- I'm not gonna sit here on your podcast and bash someone because.

• 59:54Bunnie XO?

  So let's get into your guys' relationship. You guys re cer- you guys were circle back around. You guys start dating again. How does that even happen? You start Snapchatting and then you guys just see each other and you're like, we decided we want to be together because didn't he start dating somebody too? That like worked at a bar the first time too. Yeah, I remember, girl.

• 1:00:13Speaker 05

  She was on.

• 1:00:14Bunnie XO?

  And she was online.

• 1:00:15Speaker 05

  You don't forget nothing.

• 1:00:16Bunnie XO?

  No, she no, because I don't, I don't forget people who are rude to my friends, you know, like that. Like people can be rude to me all day, but if you're fucking rude to my friends, I'm, I'm gonna remember that.

• 1:00:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:00:25Bunnie XO?

  I just immediately saw and I think that girl has me blocked and it's like, bitch, I don't even know you. Like remember, I think I went to go like lurk one day and fuck it. I was like, how am I blocked? I didn't even know who you were until today.

• 1:00:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, I, there was a time, well, they were running with all that crew with my ex.

• 1:00:41Bunnie XO?

  Which I don't care, bitches, block me, please, because it, the only thing you're gonna see is success and thriving over here, so.

• 1:00:47Speaker 05

  I think after we started hanging out the second time around, um, he started coming over. Um, again, mind you, I was paying for babysitters to go out on dates with him. Mind you, you know, taking time away from my daughter because I wanted to spend time with him, you know what I mean? And I, we just grew to like each other's company, if I might say, and we grew like fond of each other. And I remember like, wow, I think he really changed and I really love this man. I mean, and then slowly. After like five months of us dating, I finally brought him around Lily. And that was like, it made my heart so full to see Lily, um, because mind you.

• 1:01:32Speaker 05

  This is the first guy Lily's ever seen me affectionate with.

• 1:01:35Bunnie XO?

  She didn't see affectionate with Todd though?

• 1:01:37Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:01:37Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:01:38Speaker 05

  Mm-mm.

• 1:01:40Speaker 05

  No. So, you know, I mean, laying on the couch, you know, kissing and loving on. So Lily sees that and she knows like, oh, mommy loves this person.

• 1:01:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:49Speaker 05

  And everything. So it was just a special moment for me to share that with my daughter and everything. And I was like, wow.

• 1:01:56Bunnie XO?

  Did Lily like him?

• 1:01:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, Lily did like him. And it was really sad to her to like tell me, you know, mommy, I'm really gonna miss him. You know, he was fun and everything. But one day, I think it's for the better, the things that worked out because I opened up my eyes. Like, I don't need someone like that in my life because of my needs. If I'm being too much because I'm over communicating with you because, hey, I need this. I need to be told that I'm this because the way I perceive love is I'm words of affirmation. I need to be told I'm doing a good job. I need to be told that, you know, hey, you look beautiful today. You know what I mean?

• 1:02:38Speaker 05

  And that comes with past trauma with domestic violence. I mean, getting called a cunt and a bitch every day for almost fucking four years, you know, with my Lily's father. So, and I expressed this to him. And I think it just became too much.

• 1:02:56Bunnie XO?

  So you guys were, you guys got back together for how long?

• 1:02:59Speaker 03

  Sorry, can we hold on real quick? Someone's opening the garage.

• 1:03:03Bunnie XO?

  Hold on, sorry, Dems.

• 1:03:04Speaker 05

  No, you're on. I'm not gonna get emotional on this. I'm not trying to give him anything.

• 1:03:10Speaker 03

  Uh-uh. You can get emotional.

• 1:03:12Bunnie XO?

  It's okay if you can't, if you do get emotional, though. You're going through a fucking breakup. You're human.

• 1:03:16Speaker 05

  But he's on fucking TikTok saying Dems likes to play the victim. Like, you motherfucking narcissist. How dare you sit there two weeks ago and tell me you love me back home in Indiana for you to leave me on red? For damn.

• 1:03:32Speaker 06

  Days and you break up with me over text?

• 1:03:36Speaker 06

  That's really fucked up.

• 1:03:38Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:03:41Bunnie XO?

  It is.

• 1:03:42Speaker 06

  Bunny, when I say I, it was bad bitch. It was really bad. I was over at Priscilla's house. I had no makeup on. She called me. She was like, just come over for coffee. And I remember just in Priscilla's kitchen. I was like, I don't know what's wrong with me.

• 1:03:59Speaker 06

  That, this one fucking hurt. And I know, fuck Todd. I wasn't even upset with Todd, but this, this,

• 1:04:08Speaker 06

  I felt pain like I leaving Lily's father and it fucking fucked with my head.

• 1:04:15Bunnie XO?

  I think it's because you really genuinely loved him though Dempsey. I think, and, and it's okay to love people and it's okay to be sad about it. You don't have to be hard just because of what he's saying on the internet right now, or he's trying to gaslight you, you know, and we know how guys are. There's, and there's always three sides to every story. There's your side, his side and the truth, you know? But the truth is you're hurt right now and that's okay. That doesn't give him more power because you're showing emotion. It's, you're fucking human dude.

• 1:04:43Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:04:43Bunnie XO?

  You know, and breaking up with anybody fucking sucks. And I think that you deserved more than a text message.

• 1:04:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, for real girl. Because my daughter was involved and we were together for a year. And there was, it would, it would have been different if it was just like a month fling, like the first time we dated.

• 1:05:04Bunnie XO?

  Today, I have a triple threat. I mean, I don't even know. I think he might be a quadruple threat, but this man needs no introduction. Mr. MGK in the house, baby.

• 1:05:15Speaker 03

  Hi, everybody.

• 1:05:16Bunnie XO?

  You've had a day.

• 1:05:18Speaker 03

  I've had, yeah, it's been a gnarly 96 hours for sure.

• 1:05:23Bunnie XO?

  I feel like you don't ever stop though.

• 1:05:25Speaker 03

  Nah, this was my first four day music video shoot, which you were in.

• 1:05:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:29Speaker 03

  Cool.

• 1:05:30Bunnie XO?

  And thank you for having us. Let's talk about it. What, what was, what was the video shoot about?

• 1:05:35Speaker 03

  Um, well, it was visually inspired by Beyond the Pines, I think, story-wise as well. Um, the first twenty minutes, anyway.

• 1:05:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, if you guys are gonna watch, if you're gonna watch Beyond the Pine, don't watch any more than thirty. After Ryan Gosling has his moment, don't watch it.

• 1:05:54Speaker 03

  It is, it's quite, uh...

• 1:05:57Bunnie XO?

  Thrill kill.

• 1:05:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:58Bunnie XO?

  It's like a thrill and then it's just like, what happened?

• 1:06:00Speaker 03

  You're like, wait a minute, like, he's on every poster, this movie has to be about him. Yeah, that was kind of a trip. But aesthetically, that, I love riding motorcycles. I think telling the story of, uh...

• 1:06:17Speaker 03

  Lower-middle-class, struggling family and relationship is really what I grew up seeing. So it was something that felt, um, right to do on a song that everyone keeps telling me is a hit. So I think the glamorous approach was obvious, and I kinda went the other way and kept it G. Like how me and Jelly's, um...

• 1:06:48Speaker 03

  Background is.

• 1:06:49Bunnie XO?

  You guys went back to your roots.

• 1:06:51Speaker 03

  I think, absolutely, I think, like, you know, we repped for...

• 1:06:57Speaker 03

  You know, when you get it, when you are exploring yourself in front of all these cameras and in the industry, um...

• 1:07:06Speaker 03

  Sorry, guys.

• 1:07:07Bunnie XO?

  These are some beautiful cats, by the way. Yeah, these are some awesome cats that just walked in, they're like, "Dad's home."

• 1:07:14Speaker 03

  But when you're exploring yourself in front of the cameras, and, you know, you're seeing success, and, you know, you obviously idolize people and lifestyles and things, you kind of, you know, you're doing your own outfit changes metaphorically towards what you think would look cool with this era, what would look cool with that era. And this era for me, after all the glitz and glam of the last run that I've had, is just back to my roots, man. I went all the way to the top and I am just like...

• 1:07:50Speaker 03

  Alright, I've seen it.

• 1:07:51Bunnie XO?

  I'm so excited.

• 1:07:52Speaker 03

  I'm out.

• 1:07:53Bunnie XO?

  I'm so excited to deep dive all of this with you. Um, so, circling back to the video though, so the song is for Lonely Roads, which my husband is gonna be featuring on. And, that's out, right now.

• 1:08:06Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:08:06Bunnie XO?

  Cause by the time this drops, it's gonna be out, so you guys need to go listen to it. And, when do you think the music video's gonna drop? Is it gonna drop before?

• 1:08:14Speaker 03

  I think the music video will be out by the time this is out.

• 1:08:16Bunnie XO?

  Yes, so you guys gotta go watch it. Cause it's gonna be awesome.

• 1:08:19Speaker 03

  I feel really, I don't really know what to do with my hands. Is it cool if I roll a cigarette?

• 1:08:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, of course. I would sit back, you know, this is your house, so I'm not telling you what to do on your couch. Um, so, you have talked a lot about your childhood. And, I just kinda wanna go back in time a little bit with you on that. Can we speak on your childhood a little bit?

• 1:08:41Speaker 03

  Yeah. If I've spoken on my childhood, you know, if you're reflecting on past interviews, I don't really know how far they go back, but some of them was a very insecure, uh, uh, excuse me. Insecure with speaking on just almost any interview I had done, in which I covered myself with a egoic exoskeleton, but I, as far as my childhood,

• 1:09:06Speaker 03

  some of that I've spoke on in a way that I was still just very confused and very angry, and so I do

• 1:09:15Speaker 03

  not stand by everything that I said, um, about the people in my life and my childhood, because they deserve forgiveness and something different than the way that I may have, uh,

• 1:09:31Speaker 03

  just, you know. So anyway, I proceeded with the question.

• 1:09:34Bunnie XO?

  That actually kinda made me wanna tear up, because anybody that's ever, ugh, let me get a hold of myself here. Anybody that's ever dealt with childhood trauma has gone through a time in their life where they were just so angry, that they've said so many things about the people that were in their life, that until you get to a breakthrough and you come, I don't wanna say come out of the darkness, because I feel like we're always sort of gonna have one foot in, um, but when you get to a point where you can look at them with love or forgiveness is huge.

• 1:10:03Speaker 03

  And?

• 1:10:06Speaker 03

  They're just big kids. Like as a parent, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing every single day

• 1:10:14Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:10:14Speaker 03

  of my life as a parent. You're just figuring it out constantly, but hopefully doing it with love.

• 1:10:23Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 1:10:25Speaker 03

  And sometimes, like in my situation with my father, he was so tormented from

• 1:10:36Speaker 03

  some of the most insane shit that I could imagine a kid could go through that

• 1:10:46Speaker 03

  he had to figure it out. But with almost every possible bad circumstance going against him too. So it's, it's, it's almost like the expectations are too high. Because we think, uh,

• 1:11:07Speaker 03

  that they're just, that, that they know everything because we grew up looking up at them.

• 1:11:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:12Speaker 03

  We, we're, we're all just lost and trying to figure it out.

• 1:11:16Bunnie XO?

  I feel like you've been fighting since you came out of the womb. Um, I'm just looking down at my notes here, but it says, you know, you, you were born with your umbilical cord wrapped around your neck, correct?

• 1:11:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:26Bunnie XO?

  So I mean, you were already fighting the minute that you came out.

• 1:11:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:29Bunnie XO?

  Um, when you were born, um, you had your mom and your dad. I don't ever really hear you talk about your mom a lot. And a lot of the stuff that I got from your childhood, I didn't take from interviews. I kind of, if you listen to your music, you tell a story.

• 1:11:43Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:11:43Bunnie XO?

  You speak a lot about your life in music. And I think that anybody that is, you know, a fan of yours or a listener of yours would know them.

• 1:11:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, I saved a lot of my, um, interview moments for my lyrics. So I think a lot of my childhood is represented in, in my songs. Um, my mom and I actually have reconnected in a really

• 1:12:12Speaker 03

  intense way in the past three or four years. Um, you know, that's how my fam- family is. They're, they're all from Norway. They're extremely Norwegian, so very stoic. You know, so the emotional side of things I get from my father, who was very, um,

• 1:12:34Speaker 03

  You know, he wore everything on his sleeve, right? So like, his depression was very obvious. His need for love was very, you know, like,

• 1:12:47Speaker 03

  I was, I wish, I wish I could have told him,

• 1:12:53Speaker 03

  before he died, that I was really inspired by how emotional he was. And like how, I thought that was really cool in hindsight.

• 1:13:02Speaker 03

  Because I am very emotional as well. Probably because everything on my chart is so Pisces, but,

• 1:13:10Speaker 03

  yeah, I was saying that on July 5th, it's the same day Hotel Diablo came out. But that's also the day he died and it trips me out because on the album, I said, doctors said my dad won't be here a year from now and then a year to the date he died. And then on that date this year, I was outside and I was doing a ritual for him just to try and see if I could channel any,

• 1:13:38Speaker 03

  if I could hear him at all. But I did tell him what I, what I just said. Sorry if I'm very long-winded, I'm pretty awkward as a human and so I don't really know if, what I'm saying, if anyone gives a fuck. So maybe I'll just move on. What was the next question?

• 1:13:54Bunnie XO?

  You don't have to apologize, though. It's actually beautiful what you say and it's so real. And I think people need to hear what you have to say because there's a lot of people who are working through, including myself, who I just lost my dad last month. And I, I know exactly what you're going through with, you know, a father who was absent, you know, in certain things and like, you know, just, we're all dealing with childhood trauma. But your dad, actually, it says that, your dad was tried at nine years old for his own father's death.

• 1:14:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:29Bunnie XO?

  Can we talk about that?

• 1:14:36Speaker 03

  I think so. That's interesting that you.

• 1:14:40Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, sure.

• 1:14:43Bunnie XO?

  That has to contribute to how he was as a father to you because it seems like it was almost generational, like passed down.

• 1:14:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, every medium that I've spoke to or seer that I've spoke to says there's a generational curse on all the men in my family that they will die alone. And they've all died alone. I'm the seventh generation, which means that I should be able to break the curse. And I was born on the twenty second, which is a master number and the numerology behind mine is a curse breaker. So I do hope in this lifetime that I master my best self and what I'm supposed to do. It's a very difficult road that I'm on right now with that. And my father's childhood journey definitely bled into mine because we, we shared the same bed. The same bed for years. And that was

• 1:15:41Speaker 03

  you know, the

• 1:15:44Speaker 03

  the body, especially if you're intuitive or born intuitive, your body receives the energy from all around you. So you know, those years that my dad slept,

• 1:15:56Speaker 03

  depressed, I took on all that. And I just remember finding that I always used to get so mad at him when I was a kid because if I scared him or he heard a loud boom or a loud noise, he would freak out, like gnarly freak out. And I would be like,

• 1:16:19Speaker 03

  you're supposed to be like, you're supposed to be a man, dude. Like, why are you acting like this? And I would we would, you know, it just made me hate him. And then you sit there and you think about a kid who was on trial at nine years old for the murder of his father. And knowing that the police came and found the shotgun underneath the bed. And the story that was told to me was always that, you know, their dad dropped the gun in his head.

• 1:16:54Speaker 03

  Essentially blew off and so that all happened in the room with my dad. At nine years old. And so him and my grandmother were tried for the murder.

• 1:17:05Speaker 03

  They were both acquitted.

• 1:17:09Speaker 03

  I had a very interesting.

• 1:17:12Speaker 03

  Talk with him on his deathbed about that moment.

• 1:17:18Speaker 03

  Which.

• 1:17:21Speaker 03

  I think I'll leave that between me and my father.

• 1:17:26Speaker 03

  You know, that led to a lot of like, you know, he had split personality and, and, and. You know, schizophrenia runs really heavy in my, in that side of the family.

• 1:17:38Speaker 03

  So a lot of things, man, I, I've taken on and I, I think.

• 1:17:44Speaker 03

  I've. Projected myself to be somebody.

• 1:17:51Speaker 03

  Who.

• 1:17:54Speaker 03

  Has the stamina to endure. All of these.

• 1:18:04Speaker 03

  Things that come with fame and.

• 1:18:08Speaker 03

  Criticism and hate. Because I.

• 1:18:13Speaker 03

  Fought back with all those traumas by becoming.

• 1:18:19Speaker 03

  What I always wanted my dad to be. Which was like tough and. You know, shake everything off and just.

• 1:18:27Speaker 03

  Fight anyone who. You know, comes at you, I, I. I never understood why he. Was so. Closed.

• 1:18:38Speaker 03

  But dude, I'm tired and I'm a really shy. Fucked up kid and internally. And really broken and I'm just now fixing myself and I don't have the energy to be. The image that I was.

• 1:18:56Speaker 03

  Because I'm also kind of sick of being on an island alone where no one is. Outside of my fans, you know, my fans who really can read the music and read into the music side. But. As far as like public persona, I'm really, really sick of being.

• 1:19:12Speaker 03

  What they think I am, so. I don't really know how I got onto that from my dad's story, but. I don't know how you found that either. That's a very like.

• 1:19:23Speaker 03

  That was a very, uh.

• 1:19:29Speaker 03

  Quite the piece of information to stumble upon.

• 1:19:32Speaker 04

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• 1:20:02Bunnie XO?

  I am so excited because I have been wanting this guest forever. Ever since your first album came out, I have been obsessed with you. And not to mention, your dad was one of my childhood crushes.

• 1:20:14Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:20:17Bunnie XO?

  L King is in the house, baby.

• 1:20:20Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 1:20:21Bunnie XO?

  I have been waiting for you to come because you do not know how obsessed I was with Deuce Bigelow.

• 1:20:26Speaker 05

  No, you know, I was in that.

• 1:20:27Bunnie XO?

  I did not know that.

• 1:20:29Speaker 05

  Wow, a little foreshadowing. You're like, we're gonna be friends.

• 1:20:31Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:20:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, I was the little Girl Scout.

• 1:20:34Bunnie XO?

  I love that. I never even knew that. But I mean, I just, I'm, I've always been a try, like John Candy and like. Funny comedians were always my thing. And your dad, like, I knew, I knew he was like the tiniest little thing ever.

• 1:20:47Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:20:47Bunnie XO?

  But I was just like.

• 1:20:48Speaker 05

  If he finds this out, he's gonna be like, I've still got it.

• 1:20:51Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 1:20:53Bunnie XO?

  Dude, Rob Schneider was like, it was Rob Schneider, Drew Carey, like, I had a list of like comedians that I loved as a child.

• 1:21:00Speaker 05

  I, I always go for funny over anything.

• 1:21:02Bunnie XO?

  Me too.

• 1:21:03Speaker 05

  I mean, I've, I've dated all kinds of different people. But if you make me laugh, you get my heart and.

• 1:21:10Bunnie XO?

  My vagina.

• 1:21:11Speaker 05

  And my vagina.

• 1:21:12Bunnie XO?

  I'm telling you, man, you make me laugh, my legs are spread wide open.

• 1:21:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, and like throwing like a neck tat, like, sold.

• 1:21:18Bunnie XO?

  Oh, they have to have tattoos. Do you have to date a man with tattoos or can you date a man who has bear skin?

• 1:21:23Speaker 05

  I, I'll try anything twice.

• 1:21:25Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 1:21:27Speaker 05

  But I do tend to get along better.

• 1:21:32Speaker 05

  With, I don't know, it just, I, I like people who have tattoos. It's.

• 1:21:36Bunnie XO?

  Same.

• 1:21:37Speaker 05

  You can withstand, if someone's like covered in tattoos, like, they can withstand. Dance and things.

• 1:21:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, they can take some shit.

• 1:21:43Speaker 05

  Or they've been through things, you know?

• 1:21:44Bunnie XO?

  Or they have that like rough around the edges thing.

• 1:21:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:21:47Bunnie XO?

  I feel like if if we're flesh all enmesh and I'm the only one with tattoos, I feel like one of these kids is doing its own thing. And I like want you to be on my team, you know? Like you need to be covered in tattoos too.

• 1:21:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, definitely.

• 1:21:58Bunnie XO?

  Are you dating right now?

• 1:22:00Speaker 05

  I am actually um back with my baby daddy.

• 1:22:03Bunnie XO?

  Ah, we're gonna dive into this.

• 1:22:06Speaker 05

  I know, I know.

• 1:22:07Bunnie XO?

  Okay, hence the tour name, right?

• 1:22:09Speaker 05

  Um, yes, yes. And we broke up for um a year and I was going through really, really insane postpartum. And I I don't even think that I realized I was going through it until I kind of got out of it. Um, and we were already broken up and he just kept showing up and we became best friends. And then uh through like custody and everything and working together and like a lot of therapy on my part. Um, we've we like restarted our communication, our like respect for each other. And um I just, I never stopped being in love with him. And then finally, he was just like, I wore the right set of underwear and she's like locked in.

• 1:22:54Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 1:22:55Speaker 05

  And we're doing really, really well.

• 1:22:57Bunnie XO?

  I feel, I love that you're talking about postpartum though, because I feel like a lot of women in the spotlight, like you guys literally will have babies and then you're thrust back into the spotlight. And it's like you don't have time to heal, you don't have time to nurture yourself.

• 1:23:10Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:23:11Bunnie XO?

  And then the world wants to be mad at you if like you're not this picture perfect human that they've put you on this pedestal.

• 1:23:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's honestly like it's kind of fucked up because I I really struggled to get pregnant um in a lot of different relationships. And now I know it's like God's timing is is not up to us and even our baby's timing is not up to us. And um I think that like the pandemic, everything was shut down and I was able to like rest. I sold my house in LA, I moved to New Mexico, I had donkeys and goats and I got pregnant. Um, and because I wasn't on the road. I didn't have all this pressure. Um, I ballooned up. I got so heavy and I got up to two hundred and eighty-four pounds uh the day that I delivered my son. And then um.

• 1:24:03Bunnie XO?

  It was happy weight, though.

• 1:24:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, it was, it was miserable weight, but it was also like, my body did what it had to do. And then it took me three years to lose baby weight. And the thing that made me so mad is like, in this day and age, like, no one gives any credit for anything. I don't care how anybody lose weight. If somebody takes charge of their own life, not that anyone has to, because I've been every single size. But like, I worked really, really hard because I was so depressed. I started working three months after I had my son. I was back on the road and I was like trying to, I like already stopped breastfeeding. I was so stressed out. And then I just started working out to try and get my mind right because I was like,

• 1:24:45Speaker 05

  blue. I was really sad, really miserable. And then my song with Miranda Drunk like really went crazy during my pregnancy. So so many changes happened so quickly, so fast. And um, then, I don't know, I just like, you'd think, anything that I know about or had known about postpartum was like, oh, like you could like be kind of sad like for a couple of weeks, a couple of months after. And I'm like looking down and like it's two years after and like I'm getting ready to celebrate my son's second birthday. And I'm not with his dad and I'm like, I feel so lost. I tried a lot of different therapies.

• 1:25:26Speaker 05

  I tried like all kinds of like different psychedelic stuff. I tried talk therapy. I tried everything. And ultimately, I had to go through certain experiences on my own, some of which I didn't want to go through, but.

• 1:25:40Bunnie XO?

  Like life experiences?

• 1:25:41Speaker 05

  Like life experiences, like, you know, I I'm already kind of, I don't want to say like I'm sick of talking about like what happened in January in the Dolly incident. Um, and I'm sure people are not gonna like what I have to say about a lot of it, but like, I can already look back and be like, you know what? I have this good thing that came. From it. This thing changed in my life. This, I was presented with an opportunity to grow. And I think that every experience is an opportunity for change. And change is inevitable. It's the blade that carves itself and or sharpens itself, whatever that quote is. And I really like that. Um, but like.

• 1:26:22Bunnie XO?

  When that Dolly incident happened, were you still going through postpartum? Was that part of it?

• 1:26:27Speaker 05

  Honestly, I, I don't, I think I'd kind of come out of postpartum. And then everything that had accumulated, everything that I had just like sucked on to my life. Uh, in my like depression, um, all just kind of came to a head. And I, I think it was probably just rock bottom, right? I just, if it wasn't that, it was gonna be something else. And I just took, for the first time, like, you know, when I was pregnant, like, I was like, okay, maybe I've, I've got this time given to me. This was, this year was the first time I was like, I'm stepping, I'm stepping away from this. Everyone's telling me to kill myself. Everyone's telling me to surrender my child.

• 1:27:08Speaker 05

  And, uh, it was just so, so wrong. And, you know, if a man did it, it would have been a completely different story. But also like, I, I've spoken to everybody and I've spoken to everyone at the Opry and, um, they said that I'm not banned.

• 1:27:25Bunnie XO?

  Country is forgiving. They are really forgiving people.

• 1:27:28Speaker 05

  It is. And this, the saddest part about it is like, and I don't even really want to use these words, but like, somebody is gonna get arrested. Somebody is gonna get something that happens and, you know, some people might say it's good for you, but like, for me, I'm like, that's sad. The biggest thing I learned was like, okay, take nothing that you read online for like, full blown truth. Because everything, you never know, from my experience, especially what was going on then. I was going through some like heavy, heavy, heavy shit, not even postpartum, not even my breakup, not even just that, it's just like.

• 1:28:06Bunnie XO?

  Can we touch on it?

• 1:28:07Speaker 05

  I mean, it was just, it was a dark situation that I can't, I can't talk about and I don't really want to, but like.

• 1:28:14Bunnie XO?

  Like a relationship?

• 1:28:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was, it was like bad shit that was going on and, um, I've.

• 1:28:22Speaker 05

  Because of that, no one knew what was really going on and they just thought like, God forbid, somebody looks and thinks, wow, like, what was going on with her that day? You know, like, I, I played two shows that day. I played two fucking shows. The first show was great. It was perfect. But I hadn't eaten. I hadn't done anything. I hadn't slept in days. I was so, I had such bad anxiety and everything. And um, I just walked back on stage and I'd taken one shot too many. We went through that alleyway and went to Robert's Western World and a bunch of people were celebrating and I took, you know, one shot of tequila when I'd been drinking a martini and like, that, I was like the tiniest I'd ever been. And boom, I come to and like the curtains down.

• 1:29:05Speaker 05

  And it sucks. It's awful. Um, but at the same time, I went home and I was like, I'd never, I never want to cry like that in a car ride home. I never want to wake up feeling like that ever again. I never want to feel that shame. I never want to like, you know, any, anytime Dolly Parton calls you is cool, but like, I didn't want it to be under those circumstances. And like, but she called me to make me feel better, you know?

• 1:29:32Bunnie XO?

  She's a sweet angel of a woman.

• 1:29:34Speaker 05

  She's literally, she's like proof of angels. She truly is. And um, I, I think what that taught, like, I learned so much from this experience and um, like, if I can come out of it, literally, anyone can.

• 1:29:50Bunnie XO?

  Um, so going back, so you had said that you did not want to, you got to a point where you stopped wanting to go and spend summers with your dad?

• 1:29:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, like, he was filming this one, like, prison movie in, like, Stockton, California, in a prison, and I-

• 1:30:05Bunnie XO?

  I was gonna say, there's not very many

• 1:30:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:30:07Bunnie XO?

  cool hang spots in Stockton.

• 1:30:09Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 1:30:10Bunnie XO?

  Shout out the Diaz brothers.

• 1:30:11Speaker 05

  Yeah. I had already started getting tattooed and it was like a hundred and eight degrees, like, every single day. So I was having to wear sweaters because my dad was like very anti-tattoos or like any form of self-expression that differed from what he wanted for me. Not that he ever even thought about me, but-

• 1:30:28Bunnie XO?

  You're killing my fantasy of robbery.

• 1:30:30Speaker 05

  I'm so sorry.

• 1:30:31Bunnie XO?

  It's over. It's done. It's over with.

• 1:30:32Speaker 05

  I'm so sorry.

• 1:30:33Bunnie XO?

  I'm T M L all day.

• 1:30:35Speaker 05

  Oh, I'm so sorry.

• 1:30:36Bunnie XO?

  I'm T M L all day.

• 1:30:38Speaker 05

  Um, yeah, I just like, I would get in so much trouble and now like a massive part like of like, I guess little, little tees that have turned into massive paranoia, paranormal, wait, paranoia.

• 1:30:53Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:30:53Speaker 05

  What's paranormal?

• 1:30:55Bunnie XO?

  I don't know. I was gonna say, is that like ghosts or something?

• 1:30:57Speaker 05

  I don't know, but like it'd be a ghoul, like.

• 1:30:58Bunnie XO?

  Paranormal.

• 1:30:59Speaker 05

  Ghoul dog name. I like spend one day in this like witchy house. It's cool.

• 1:31:06Speaker 05

  And I don't remember what I was talking about.

• 1:31:07Bunnie XO?

  Oh dad, you had to wear sweaters covering the tattoos.

• 1:31:11Speaker 05

  And so like I didn't want to be, oh okay, my little teeth. So I would get in so much trouble. If I ever, oh my gosh, if I ever messed up a shot, or if I ever was like, it like an arm in the camera, or like if I ever was talking, like I would get in fucking trouble. And like I spent, you know, I'm really putting shit out there right now, but like my dad forgot about every single birthday. Like I spent my eighteenth birthday in a summer school, um, like class with like algebra one. And because if I didn't take it, I wouldn't graduate. And they brought me cupcakes and I came home, my dad forgot my birthday.

• 1:31:53Speaker 05

  It's okay. I read, I read an entire, yeah, it's totally hurtful, but like, you know what?

• 1:31:58Bunnie XO?

  That shapes and molds you.

• 1:31:59Speaker 05

  I put every, I put every ounce of my being into my son's birthday. Like every birthday, even for my friends, like every birthday, because I know how it feels to be forgotten on your birthday. And that's so sad. It's like, come on, it's my one fucking day. It's my one day.

• 1:32:16Bunnie XO?

  Give me that.

• 1:32:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, give me that. And, uh, and so like I stopped wanting to go. And then I got kicked out of school in New York in sixth or seventh grade. And my mom was like, I am done with her. Um, I was being bad. I got my tongue pierced. My mom walked in on me and, and a boy. And she was like, mom's losing her. Yes, and my mom is tough. My mom like, she doesn't give up on me ever, but my mom was like, she's fucking your problem. And he was like, what do you want me to do with her? And he was going to Amsterdam, so I was fourteen. And he took me to Amsterdam and he.

• 1:32:53Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 1:32:57Speaker 05

  My dad hired this um, a twenty-one-year-old, sweet, sweet, she was an Indian young woman, she was a virgin. And her name was Aman and she was like, she was lovely. And every single day I'd say, let's go to the flower markets. And, and I would be like, oh, yeah, wow, look at those tulips. And then I would dip back behind, I'd like, watch her freak out looking for me and I'd go straight to the red light district. I still to this day roll the best joints ever. But like, I wanted culture, I wanted to see things and I didn't want, every single day I would ditch the nanny and she didn't want to lose her job, so she never told my dad.

• 1:33:37Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 1:33:38Speaker 05

  So, I basically just spent however many months we were there in Amsterdam. I had, I mean, I would go to like my, my homeschool like teacher, I was like, I don't even, I was learning some Dutch and French or something, but like, I never paid attention, I can always distract somebody, like I had this one tutor, I'd be like, oh, you're into Dungeons and Dragons? That's cool, like, I don't really want to learn about like, science, man. And, um, and then, you know, like one time we went to, anytime, uh, my dad would like have me on a trip, he would like forget that he had me. And so, he, I, I know, I know, because he, he's not a great planner and.

• 1:34:15Bunnie XO?

  Is that, that's the least of his worries.

• 1:34:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, and, and so he took, he took me to Russia and with him and.

• 1:34:22Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 1:34:22Speaker 05

  I was probably eighteen, actually, but the thing is like, I refuse to like waste a trip.

• 1:34:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I love that even at such a young age, you were like, motherfucker, I'm here to live.

• 1:34:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:34:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:35Speaker 05

  We were in Russia and he was like in a basement, like getting ready to do some TV show. He had two security guards and I was like, hey, hey, we're in Moscow, like, I'm not sitting in this basement TV studio. I was like, um, I'm gonna go out and he. Always just be like, like, reading something like, whatever, take, take one of the security guards with you. I was like, great. So this like beautiful Russian like tuxedo fucking wearing like young handsome security guard. I was like, what do you do in Moscow? And he's like, do you like to ride rides? And I was like, I fucking love rides. Takes me to an amusement park, rides all the fucking rides with me. Is in like photo booth pictures with me, takes me to get like the big Russian hat.

• 1:35:17Speaker 05

  And then like I, I had, I had started to lose some of my like teenage weight. And um, I, he was staying with like this very, my, my dad was like there for this like really rich lady. And she let me buy this like La Perla gown and like heels because they had some fashion show. And I was like, I'm such a tomboy. I don't know how to walk in heels. And there was like 25 steps down from this party. And the guy was like Nikolai, he picked me up, walks me down the steps, opens the limo with me in his arms and like sets me down. And I was like, yeah, thank you. Thank you.

• 1:35:56Bunnie XO?

  Did, did you and Nikolai ever hook up? Hello babies. Welcome back to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today is so special to me because I started this podcast six years ago. And when I named this podcast, I named it after a specific song. That was tongue in cheek, but also was an oxymoron to my life, but also a woman who I have admired. And literally just patterned my entire life after um, the iconic, the queen of not just country, but the queen of everything, Ms. Dolly Parton is here today.

• 1:36:31Speaker 04

  Well, hello. Now we should put an S on the dumb blonde.

• 1:36:34Bunnie XO?

  I'm telling you.

• 1:36:35Speaker 04

  We got two of us here today.

• 1:36:36Bunnie XO?

  Will you be my co-host?

• 1:36:37Speaker 04

  I'll be your co-host.

• 1:36:38Bunnie XO?

  I would love for you to be my.

• 1:36:39Speaker 04

  If you'd love that, I would love it.

• 1:36:41Bunnie XO?

  I would love for you to be my co-host.

• 1:36:42Speaker 04

  We got a bunny and a squirrel.

• 1:36:44Bunnie XO?

  I love it. I love it so much. Both are fast though. Very, very slippery suckers, right?

• 1:36:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, very, very, very.

• 1:36:51Bunnie XO?

  This has been something that I have pretty much manifested since I started this podcast. Everybody has always asked me, who is your dream guest? And there's two of you. Dolly Parton and Joyce Myers are the two people that I have said that I have wanted since the beginning. And sitting here with you today is such an honor. And I just want to say thank you for making time for me today.

• 1:37:09Speaker 04

  Well, I'm happy to do it. We love you.

• 1:37:12Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love you too. And my husband loves you too.

• 1:37:14Speaker 04

  Well, we love your husband very much. But every time I see you, I see you. And vice versa. So yeah, we, we love you both. You make a great couple.

• 1:37:21Bunnie XO?

  Thank you.

• 1:37:22Speaker 04

  But you're great on your own.

• 1:37:23Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:37:23Speaker 04

  And you're no dumb blonde.

• 1:37:25Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:37:25Speaker 04

  I can tell you that.

• 1:37:26Bunnie XO?

  Thank you. And neither one of us are though, right? Isn't that just?

• 1:37:29Speaker 04

  I don't know about me, but I know you're okay.

• 1:37:31Bunnie XO?

  Well, I mean, the testimony to your life is pretty much shows how brilliant of a woman you are. And I kind of want to dive into that with you. Um, starting with, I want to paint a picture for my viewers at home. For some people who might not even know your backstory. I'd like to start, um, you know, with your childhood and where you grew up and stuff like that. If you could tell me a little bit about that.

• 1:37:51Speaker 04

  Well, I grew up in the great Smoky Mountains of East Tennessee, way up in the hills. Actually, I was actually born in a little cabin on the Little Pigeon River. My dad was a sharecropper for a while. And then eventually we moved over to the little place we call Locust Ridge, where you hear me talk a lot about my Tennessee mountain home. But there's 12 of us in all. Mama had 12 kids and, uh, six boys and six girls. We were pretty even. And we were just country people just trying to scratch a living out of, out of dirt up there in the hills. But I, I was blessed to have a good mom and dad. And they managed pretty good, uh, to work with nothing to try to, you know, to raise a house full of kids. And none of us wound up in jail.

• 1:38:35Speaker 04

  None of us had to get married. So all in all, I think they did a pretty good job. But we were just, a lot of folks in our area were poor. That's just the way it was in, in that area. But it's been one of the greatest things really that I've carried with me, all my memories of my childhood. And it's made me appreciate life and people more than if I had been brought up a different way, I think.

• 1:38:58Bunnie XO?

  Yes, ma'am. I always feel like, um, harder childhoods make for, um, great adult hoods. It like sets you up for just a lifetime of, you know, knowing that you have to work for what you want and going after your dreams. And you, I feel like you dream a little bit bigger too.

• 1:39:12Speaker 04

  I think you do. I think you also kind of can relate, you know, to, to things more. And you also, because if you, like us, you stay so close together as a family in order to try to make it. And I think that in itself gives you a strength that you wouldn't have had you not had. You know, to know what it's like, to work together.

• 1:39:34Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:39:34Speaker 04

  You know, to make things work and to keep a family together.

• 1:39:37Bunnie XO?

  Let's talk about the Grand Old Opry, because you made your first appearance at the Grand Old Opry when you were 13 years old. How was that for you, walking out on that stage at 13, being introduced by Johnny Cash?

• 1:39:50Speaker 04

  It was scary.

• 1:39:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I can imagine.

• 1:39:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, I remember my heart was beating like a drum, but I always said my desire to do a thing has always been greater than my fear of it. So I just tried to hold on to that. I thought, well, I can't, I can't turn around in the middle of the stage and run back. I thought, I gotta finish.

• 1:40:10Bunnie XO?

  It's kind of how I felt today.

• 1:40:11Speaker 04

  No matter what.

• 1:40:12Bunnie XO?

  I was so scared.

• 1:40:13Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 1:40:15Bunnie XO?

  In a good way, though. I feel like if you're not scared of what you're doing, you're not growing.

• 1:40:19Speaker 04

  Well, I agree with that. But anyway, that was scary. That was big. That was, you know, working with, just being around all those big guys. But I was also in awe of it.

• 1:40:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:29Speaker 04

  And I, like I said, of course, I'm not just a country kid. You know, you're always nervous when you, first time you ever eat in a restaurant around people. You're not used to knowing how to do that, what spoons and forks and, even to this day, I still don't know exactly.

• 1:40:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, same.

• 1:40:44Speaker 04

  When I go to these big five meals and all that, but I figure, well, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't a star, so to hell with them. I'm gonna eat what I eat and do how I do it.

• 1:40:53Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:40:54Speaker 04

  But I still would like to know those things, but I just never learned it. And now I don't care, you know, that I, you know, sometimes you think, ooh.

• 1:41:01Bunnie XO?

  Gets to a point where you've earned not being able to care.

• 1:41:03Speaker 04

  You just kind of watch other people. That's how you, how you learn. It's like, I'll watch them and when they pick that up, I'll pick that up and I'll do this and I'll do that.

• 1:41:11Bunnie XO?

  I could never, I could not point out a solid fork to you if somebody paid me. I don't know how to do that either.

• 1:41:15Speaker 04

  Well, that's what I'm saying. I just kind of watch. If it's a big old, big thing, like if I'm invited to eat with the royal family or something, you think, I'm very uncomfortable.

• 1:41:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:26Speaker 04

  But, so I mean, I better watch so I don't make a fool of myself.

• 1:41:29Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:41:30Speaker 04

  Or they'll...

• 1:41:31Bunnie XO?

  So circling back to the Opry, Johnny Cash introduced you, and he's known for his powerful presence and mentorship. What do you remember about your interaction with him that night? And did he say anything to you that stuck with you throughout your career?

• 1:41:46Speaker 04

  He said hello.

• 1:41:49Speaker 04

  That stuck with me because at that time, I thought, see, I had seen Johnny Cash at another time when we were sitting in the audience and I had the biggest crush on him.

• 1:41:58Bunnie XO?

  Oh my goodness, yeah.

• 1:41:59Speaker 04

  Cause he had so much magnetism and I was young, you know, I was just beginning to feel those hormones.

• 1:42:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:05Speaker 04

  Look at, you know, to where you feel those things. I never felt.

• 1:42:08Bunnie XO?

  Very masculine energy.

• 1:42:09Speaker 04

  Well, he did, you know, he had all that, you know, movement and I found out later it's because he was coming off drugs.

• 1:42:16Bunnie XO?

  Oh no.

• 1:42:16Speaker 04

  He had, he was just had twitches of what I thought was magnetism.

• 1:42:21Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 1:42:22Speaker 04

  But there was some truth in that. I think, you know, the way he was kind of moving.

• 1:42:26Bunnie XO?

  He was a Pisces, right?

• 1:42:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I loved him and I, and as for years and years, I told him he was my first crush and he was.

• 1:42:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:34Speaker 04

  And then, so in my Broadway musical, The Life Story, I, I cover that about Johnny touching me on the shoulder.

• 1:42:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:43Speaker 04

  It's like, I mean, it made, just changed my life.

• 1:42:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:45Speaker 04

  You know, because I wanted, I thought I was grown then, you know, because I felt all those feelings. But he was, he was a real nice guy and very quiet, but I became best friends with June and Johnny after. So as the years went by, you know, we, we would visit and we liked each other a lot.

• 1:43:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. She was a good woman. I really, I really admire her.

• 1:43:06Speaker 04

  She was a loud mouth like me.

• 1:43:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:09Speaker 04

  So we got along just fine. And Johnny, I remember where somebody said something about Johnny, don't you get tired of hearing June talk all the time? And he said, no, I do some of my best thinking when June's talking. So.

• 1:43:23Bunnie XO?

  Speaking like a true man.

• 1:43:24Speaker 04

  But I think, I think he does some of his best thinking when I'm talking.

• 1:43:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I think that's how all husbands are. They just tune us out, you know, they're just so used to us.

• 1:43:33Speaker 04

  I'm sure they do.

• 1:43:34Bunnie XO?

  Um, when you performed that night, did you already have a sense of like the legacy that you wanted to build in country music? Or did that experience at the Opry shift your perspective on what was possible for you as an artist?

• 1:43:47Speaker 04

  Well, at that time I was just so nervous and, and I reflected on that years later, as I still do.

• 1:43:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:54Speaker 04

  But at that time, it was just a big deal, you know, to be there on, at the Grand Ole Opry with all those big name artists. And so I, I think that I, I was just. It was just kind of addling at that time. I was just kind of addled about the whole thing. But I knew that that was, you know, just like when I got my encore on the Cas Walker Show, the first time I was on there. And I thought, oh, boy, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be a star. And now, years later, I realized they weren't applauding so much because I was good. It was just because I was little.

• 1:44:28Bunnie XO?

  Stop it.

• 1:44:29Speaker 04

  No, it wasn't because I wasn't, you know, you have to develop and grow. But you know how everybody wants to be good to a kid? And the fact that I was out there doing it, I think they, you know, people were just extra nice. And I think a whole lot of that might have been so with the opera. It was just kind of cute when you see a young person doing something. So, but I did feel, and I thought back on it shortly after, thinking, wow, you know, I was on the Randall opera and they liked me.

• 1:44:56Bunnie XO?

  They asked you for three encore?

• 1:44:58Speaker 04

  This is what I want to do.

• 1:45:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. They asked you for three encore's after your first performance there?

• 1:45:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I didn't give them to them.

• 1:45:05Bunnie XO?

  No, I'm joking.

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