Jelly Roll: Leading with Love

Jelly Roll is back, and there’s so much to catch up on! He opens up about embracing his health journey and recent weight loss, his “Farmer Roll” era, the Roast of Jelly Roll and one of his favorite parts of his tour setup—a skull named Kevin. He and Bunnie get into a little of what’s ahead for 2025 and beyond, teasing some giant collabs and a tour with Post Malone. Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Bunnie XO?

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• 1:58Bunnie XO?

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• 2:27Speaker 02

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• 2:28Bunnie XO?

  Bunny XO.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  She changed my life.

• 2:30Bunnie XO?

  Dumb blonde podcast. And Bunny XO. Kelly Rose White, Bunny XO. This Bunny.

• 2:35Speaker 02

  Bunny XO. Dumb blonde podcast. Hello, Barney.

• 2:38Speaker 03

  Get to the coolest kids.

• 2:49Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on?

• 2:51Speaker 04

  Was y'all looking up Richard Gere and the gerbil butt story?

• 2:54Bunnie XO?

  Yes, yes, we were.

• 2:55Speaker 04

  Is that what was happening on Ask Tell Confess this week? As I'd just seen the TV pull up, I was like, alright. Are we, are we recording? Are we recording? Yeah, we're up. Good. Yeah, cuz I wanna, I got, I got two. First of all, in true disconnected from life fashion, I didn't know this was a real thing. This has been a rumor since 98?

• 3:14Speaker 04

  What? Richard Gere, they been talking about him putting a gerbil up his ass since the 90s?

• 3:19Bunnie XO?

  You didn't, you've never heard that rumor?

• 3:20Speaker 04

  Never in my life, dude. This part, this article was published on March 28th, 1998?

• 3:25Bunnie XO?

  We were just talking about this on Ask Tell Confess because they were talking about people that, things that people find in other people's butts. And like nurses have had x-rays and found and um.

• 3:38Speaker 04

  Do they have an x-ray of a gerbil in somebody's butt?

• 3:40Bunnie XO?

  Yes, numerous.

• 3:41Speaker 04

  No way, just a skeleton of a gerbil, obviously, right?

• 3:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. No, not a skeleton, like they're alive.

• 3:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I'm saying an x-ray would show the skeleton, right?

• 3:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 3:49Speaker 05

  Pull it up.

• 3:53Speaker 04

  No way!

• 3:56Speaker 05

  Bottom left hand corner, I'm pretty sure that's an animal.

• 3:58Speaker 04

  Look, look, look, this one right here, hold on, with the lime green dildo stuck in there? It looks like the pelvis is holding it. You know what I'm saying?

• 4:06Bunnie XO?

  What is that?

• 4:07Speaker 04

  It looks like the pelvis is two little hands holding it in there.

• 4:10Bunnie XO?

  What is that, though? Like a, you know one of those recorders that you record?

• 4:13Speaker 04

  I know what that is. No, that's a, that's a dildo.

• 4:15Bunnie XO?

  Oh, that's a dildo?

• 4:16Speaker 04

  That's a vibrator.

• 4:17Bunnie XO?

  I can't see it cuz of the angle of the TV. Yeah. So anyways, Jelly Roll, welcome.

• 4:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, look at the, look, somebody had a whole, a whole wrench in their shit.

• 4:28Bunnie XO?

  First of all, how are you so horny that you put a wrench in your asshole? I don't understand that.

• 4:33Speaker 04

  No, that's not horny. That's not. That's sick. That's not horny. That's a different.

• 4:39Bunnie XO?

  How can you lube up a wrench and get excited? Like, there's nothing about that.

• 4:43Speaker 04

  God, that thing is all the way from the tailbone. Jesus.

• 4:46Bunnie XO?

  What was the point?

• 4:48Speaker 04

  God, they was in there trying to fix something. That's.

• 4:52Speaker 05

  I don't want the vagina open because it's pliers.

• 4:55Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God. That would be horrific.

• 4:59Speaker 04

  Nasty, nasty.

• 5:01Bunnie XO?

  Anyways, Jelly Roll.

• 5:03Speaker 04

  It's funny.

• 5:04Bunnie XO?

  Hello.

• 5:05Speaker 04

  Gerbilin ass. Hey.

• 5:06Bunnie XO?

  Nice of you to join us. Thank you for being here.

• 5:09Speaker 04

  Hello, my beautiful people.

• 5:12Bunnie XO?

  I'm like trying to get his damn attention over here.

• 5:14Speaker 04

  You got gerbils getting pushed in people's ass on the TV screen on the podcast, buddy. It's crazy.

• 5:18Bunnie XO?

  Well, you walked in mid-recording, we were recording something before you came in, but it's so nice to finally get you on the podcast.

• 5:25Speaker 04

  I'm glad to be on the pod. I'm glad that we started it talking about gerbils and butts.

• 5:28Bunnie XO?

  I mean, would it be your wife's podcast?

• 5:31Speaker 04

  What a dumb blonde way to start it.

• 5:32Bunnie XO?

  Talking about some weird shit. Happy to see you here though. Was Theo Von too busy or was Joe Rogan too busy or?

• 5:39Speaker 04

  No, no, no, I just, I owed you one.

• 5:42Bunnie XO?

  I missed you being on the couch.

• 5:44Speaker 04

  I missed you.

• 5:45Bunnie XO?

  You haven't got to be in the new studio either, so it's really cool to get you.

• 5:49Speaker 04

  I've been in it, but I haven't got the pod in it.

• 5:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 5:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, so it was really cool.

• 5:52Bunnie XO?

  I love it.

• 5:53Speaker 04

  Really, really. Such a cool setup, man. And I love the screen. Such a whole new vibe.

• 5:57Bunnie XO?

  Yep, yep, yep. We incorporate that into the pod now and into Ask Tell Confessors and stuff.

• 6:04Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 6:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, we're excited.

• 6:05Speaker 04

  We're a growing production company over here at Dumb Blonde Headquarters. Maybe I send another podcast set up in the next room?

• 6:11Bunnie XO?

  Uh, that's for propaganda. But yeah, we have, we have multiple sets in here.

• 6:15Speaker 04

  I like it. I like it a lot.

• 6:17Bunnie XO?

  Soon to have a closet built here too.

• 6:19Speaker 04

  Good. Build it.

• 6:20Bunnie XO?

  Cause I don't have a closet at home that fits everything. I have to just build it.

• 6:24Speaker 04

  I'm glad you're being more honest with people. You used to would just say, I don't have a closet at home and people would believe you were robbed of. Closet at home.

• 6:31Bunnie XO?

  You were trying to offer me your closet the other day.

• 6:33Speaker 04

  Hey, I'll have, I was offering you space. I was like, hey, you got some over here.

• 6:36Bunnie XO?

  I know. Well, we have like so much to catch up on. I feel like you haven't been on here in forever and there's just so much shit that we need to fucking talk about. You just finished a tour. That was massive. It was your first arena tour, right?

• 6:49Speaker 04

  Yes. Yeah, we did a bunch of arenas the last couple of years, but we'd never did like an arena proper tour.

• 6:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 6:54Speaker 04

  So the difference is we get to actually build the production.

• 6:59Bunnie XO?

  Mm hmm.

• 7:00Speaker 04

  In an arena. So for those of y'all watching, the explanation is like,

• 7:06Speaker 04

  if there's a um,

• 7:10Speaker 04

  a state like stadiums don't have roofs, right? Amphitheaters, you don't, you know, the way they're set up, your production is limited to what the stage is.

• 7:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 7:19Speaker 04

  You know what I mean?

• 7:19Bunnie XO?

  Mm hmm.

• 7:20Speaker 04

  Um, and even if you go into like something as big as a stadium, you can build really big production, but it's hard to build up.

• 7:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 7:27Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? You gotta kind of build out. You go into an arena and it's, those things are made to hang stuff everywhere and stuff come up from here and down from here and it's just set for you to build a really cool set. So that that was my excitement about doing an arena tour was you're not limited to, I did a bunch of amphitheater tours and you're kind of limited to how the stage is set up, which I love amp tours. I love them a lot for their own like reason.

• 7:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 7:50Speaker 04

  They have the whole of my hey dudes are squeaching on your clean floor.

• 7:53Bunnie XO?

  Shameless plug.

• 7:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, shameless plug from my hey dudes.

• 7:56Bunnie XO?

  Show, go ahead, show them your hey dudes.

• 7:57Speaker 04

  There they are.

• 7:58Bunnie XO?

  Give them a little, pick it up and maybe show it.

• 8:01Speaker 04

  Make it. It's too far.

• 8:05Speaker 04

  But I was excited to do real production. So that was like the cool part. I love amphitheaters because you're kind of just there for the music, not the show, which is really cool. It's kind of an outside party and everybody's just kind of jamming.

• 8:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 8:16Speaker 04

  But arenas, I feel like you're there for the show.

• 8:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 8:19Speaker 04

  I don't know. When I buy a ticket to an amphitheater, I want to sit on the lawn and smoke a doobie and just listen to the music and have fun.

• 8:24Bunnie XO?

  Mm hmm.

• 8:24Speaker 04

  And watch the show, but. When I'm in an arena, I want to see a show.

• 8:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 8:29Speaker 04

  You know, so it was cool for us to get to put on a show.

• 8:31Bunnie XO?

  And your stage this year was fucking insane.

• 8:34Speaker 04

  I haven't got to talk about it yet.

• 8:35Bunnie XO?

  Can we talk about it? Because, okay, you have-

• 8:38Speaker 04

  If you're from Canada, don't listen.

• 8:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, if you're from Canada, it's all a surprise.

• 8:44Bunnie XO?

  There is a skull that is your logo that somehow became our logo for the house and just our lives. It's the Jelly Roll Good Night Nashville logo. And how big, what is the name of the skull? What was the crew members calling it? Do you remember? What, they used to have a name for it?

• 9:01Speaker 05

  Kevin?

• 9:02Bunnie XO?

  Kevin? Yeah, they call him Kevin.

• 9:05Speaker 04

  Oh, they call him Kevin?

• 9:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, they call the, they call the big skull Kevin.

• 9:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:09Bunnie XO?

  How big is that thing? Tell me about your set because it's phenomenal.

• 9:14Speaker 04

  I'm trying to quantify it. Mimi and Haley, y'all helped. Y'all were there every day too. But I'm not, I would say the height of this room.

• 9:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 9:22Speaker 04

  From the floor to the top of this room.

• 9:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. So that's about what, like six feet?

• 9:27Speaker 04

  No, that's, oh, no, God, baby. That's like-

• 9:29Bunnie XO?

  Hey, man. I only know how to measure wieners.

• 9:32Speaker 04

  Over six feet tall.

• 9:34Speaker 05

  That, that's easily a 12 foot too.

• 9:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's 12 to 15, 20, yeah, that's 15 feet probably. Yeah, I'm six. That helps. Six one. So I mean, we're talking about probably 12, 15 feet. You know what I should have did? Cause I knew I was going to talk about this with you.

• 9:48Bunnie XO?

  I lie and tell everybody you're six two.

• 9:50Speaker 04

  I should have emailed and got the information. Huh?

• 9:52Bunnie XO?

  I said, I lie and tell everybody you're six two.

• 9:54Speaker 04

  Why, thank you.

• 9:55Bunnie XO?

  You're welcome.

• 9:56Speaker 04

  I am sometimes. Sometimes I am. Remember when Ron, right? You said it depends on what gas station he's walking out of? He goes, I'm between 5'11" and 6'4", depending on what the gas station said.

• 10:07Speaker 04

  But no, it's huge, man. And it had a pyro effect. So can we start from the top of the show?

• 10:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, let's go.

• 10:15Speaker 04

  It was important to me to start the show. Once again, I'm not joking. If you're from Canada, please, I promise.

• 10:21Bunnie XO?

  Turn off.

• 10:22Speaker 04

  The only podcast I don't want you to listen to because we're doing tricks for y'all that we didn't do for America. But still, I want this to be a surprise.

• 10:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 10:30Speaker 04

  It was important to start on the B stage because I wanted to touch people at the top of the show.

• 10:34Bunnie XO?

  Which the B stage is insane.

• 10:36Speaker 04

  It's awesome. So the B stage, for those that wasn't there is when you ever go to a concert and they have a all satellite stage, not the original stage, another stage, it's the B stage. So ours was in the back floor, middle of the arena. And I would walk to it, me and you would walk to it every night. You were there from stage right or stage left. And that was so important to me because I wanted to touch people. Before I sang a song or said a word, I wanted to physically touch people and tell them thank you for coming. And um. So anyways, and I was inspired by Pro Wrestling for that. I love the way wrestlers walk down and take their time on their walk-ins and like interact.

• 11:11Bunnie XO?

  And fighters.

• 11:11Speaker 04

  Fighters, same way. You know what I mean?

• 11:13Bunnie XO?

  Which you're a huge wrestler, wrestling fan and fighting fan.

• 11:16Speaker 04

  Yeah. So both of these are just tricks. And then we start when I'm not okay and we catch the frame of that fire, house on fire.

• 11:23Bunnie XO?

  Which I was scared at first when he told me he was opening the show with a slow song. I couldn't see the vision. And the first night that I saw it, I was like, okay, okay, I get it.

• 11:35Speaker 04

  Cause it's like you go through and you touch everybody and then we get in the middle and I kiss you and I walk up on stage, big pop every time I kiss you, by the way.

• 11:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, he forgot to kiss me at the last show.

• 11:43Speaker 04

  I would tell you.

• 11:54Bunnie XO?

  I'm never letting him down.

• 11:56Speaker 04

  Jason, edit this, okay?

• 12:03Bunnie XO?

  Fucking asshole.

• 12:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, just bleep it out so we can keep the last, Jason, actually.

• 12:09Bunnie XO?

  It was our hometown show.

• 12:11Speaker 04

  Now I'm gonna go apologize every time I'm on stage. Like, I just want to say thank you to my wife and I'm so sorry that I didn't bring her kiss her at one show, that one time. So we would walk up on the stage and then I knew that I'm not okay. I felt like if I was gonna start in the middle of the arena, I wanted to be intimate, like intimate, intimate, intimate. I wanted to be intimate. I wanted to be like right here. And I thought that a song like I'm Not Okay would bring everybody in.

• 12:33Speaker 04

  And I think it did. And then we caught the house on fire. And that was all symbolic of like, I wanted to start the show with touching people and I wanted to start the show with fire. I wanted to have the whole arena immersed in the show immediately. And then we go back to the A stage and kind of kick off some more up tempo stuff. But this is where the story starts too. The story starts at the firehouse, right? But when you go up on a stage, the first thing you see is the broken skull. And that was all like, we wanted Kevin, the big skull, to be the feeling of this thing coming together. Like, we all started in a really hot place and we all started, we all started forged by the fire and we all started a little broken. You know what I mean? And then the show develops and it tells a story from there. And I don't know, you know,

• 13:20Speaker 04

  we probably thought about it more than anybody watching it did, but we wanted the show to tell a story. So like, when that skull goes away, and then you see Kevin, the big skull, for the first time, and then you see the crown, and then you see the skull and the crown connect, you know? And then at the end, this Kevin, I love that we're calling this guy Kevin now. This big skull would shoot fire clean across the arena.

• 13:44Bunnie XO?

  Which is crazy to see.

• 13:46Speaker 04

  You know what was funny about that? I'll never forget when I told you about that at first. You were like, is this a Rymstein concert?

• 13:54Speaker 04

  You were like, what is going on? I was like, trust me, it's gonna be fire. You were like, it sounds like a bit much. And I was like, it is, but trust me, it's all the right ways. And it catches the house back on fire. And then the rain effect at the beginning. So to me, it was like, you know, we went through all the emotions throughout the show and forged by the fire and broken and figuring it out and finally putting it together and then having to go through the fire again just to let it all wash away. And it was literally thought out to that detail. Cool thing is, you know, we're doing- In Canada.

• 14:27Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 14:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're doing.

• 14:30Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy. No, that's awesome.

• 14:32Speaker 04

  Tell me that's not really good. That's really cool.

• 14:34Bunnie XO?

  It's so cool. So being under the fire, does it ever get hot? Can you feel it?

• 14:39Speaker 04

  Oh dude, that fire sucks. It's um, not the house.

• 14:42Bunnie XO?

  I mean, you're surrounded by fire.

• 14:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, the house wasn't as bad, but when you get to doing them big pyro hits like in Liar.

• 14:48Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 14:49Speaker 04

  Or the um.

• 14:50Bunnie XO?

  My hair, I have so much hairspray on my hair that I can feel it side stage. So I couldn't imagine what it feels like onstage.

• 14:56Speaker 04

  Dude, halfway to hell, the very end pyro effect when it's a. Halfway to heaven or hell. And on the downbeat, all the flames go up and they stay there for the 20 second outro.

• 15:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 15:10Speaker 04

  That'll cook you.

• 15:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 15:11Speaker 04

  You'll feel that. You know what I mean? That's, that's the part of the show where I break my first sweat. That's my first perspiration of the night.

• 15:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 15:19Speaker 04

  I'm like, alright, we're, we're now in show mode.

• 15:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 15:22Speaker 04

  I love it though, man. I like.

• 15:26Speaker 04

  I don't like hot shows. They're miserable. I'm like everybody, but I love being hot during a show.

• 15:33Bunnie XO?

  Cause it just makes you feel like you're.

• 15:34Speaker 04

  I don't want the room to be 98 degrees and everybody being here miserable together. But I like to feel, I like to feel like I'm really into the show.

• 15:42Bunnie XO?

  You're an agile big guy though. I've always said that, like you're very, for your size, and I mean, you're 100 pounds lighter. But even when you were at your biggest, you will run up and down a stage like it's nothing.

• 15:54Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, young tenderfoot.

• 15:56Bunnie XO?

  You literally, literally, oh little pussy foot willer, just fucking running around. Like you will run from one side of the stage to the other and it's crazy. Like I've always been fascinated with the energy that you bring onstage because not a lot of people do that. You know, like there's a lot of artists who just sit stationary and they'll just play their guitar or like, you know, they don't work the stage. And like you have, you work the stage so much that you have two. Well, I don't even know what to call him.

• 16:22Speaker 04

  I call them wings or whatever.

• 16:23Bunnie XO?

  Two wings built out to where you can walk into, you know, walk on each side. So like you really work the stage and it's very admirable.

• 16:31Speaker 04

  Well, it goes back to wanting to just touch and see people. Like I want to see people. You know what I mean? Like I am a, I love when people post stuff at shows are like, I felt like he was looking right at me. Like I was, I go out of my way to point and like, I'm looking, point back at me to acknowledge I'm pointing at you. You know what I mean? I'll do hand waves and mimic hand waves with people so they know I'm like, there's something.

• 16:54Bunnie XO?

  They're doing your hand waves.

• 16:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:58Bunnie XO?

  I was talking to somebody the other day. I was talking to somebody the other day and I even said that to them. They're like, they said, um, he sees everything on stage. I said, oh, my husband sees everything. He doesn't miss a fucking thing. He knows.

• 17:12Speaker 04

  Except the last show when I forget to turn around and kiss my wife.

• 17:14Bunnie XO?

  Hey, I didn't bring it up again, right? I let it alone.

• 17:19Bunnie XO?

  I just, I had to bust your balls about that because I was just there like, I was like, you want me to go get him? And I was like, no. He's like, you want to go up there? I'm like, no. But I was just like, you know, just sitting there waiting for my little kiss, but.

• 17:37Bunnie XO?

  I love you. I'm always.

• 17:38Speaker 04

  I was miserable.

• 17:39Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I'm always.

• 17:40Speaker 04

  I was absolutely miserable that show.

• 17:42Bunnie XO?

  Oh, baby, you had just come off a fucking.

• 17:44Speaker 04

  Yeah. And I just wasn't, we just didn't, I didn't know the set list. We had too much stuff, variable in there and I didn't get to run through it because we were doing all that stuff that day. So I just wasn't, it wasn't, definitely wasn't my best show.

• 17:55Bunnie XO?

  I think you're fucking amazing at what you do. Even on your worst day, baby, like you are such a perfectionist. It's crazy.

• 18:03Speaker 04

  No, the Nashville show was great, but it was, I was just, I couldn't, I couldn't fix, I had done one set, one way for 58 cities or 57 cities.

• 18:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 18:14Speaker 04

  And then got into this place where it's like all these different songs, songs we'd never done, took songs out we normally did. We just changed so much stuff and I'm thinking of all that walking to the stage. I'm like. And then I don't know if such and such is here yet.

• 18:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 18:27Speaker 04

  So I'm having to think like, is this dude even gonna make it?

• 18:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 18:29Speaker 04

  And if he does make it, is he gonna be ready? You know what I'm saying? Which, you know, whatever. So you're thinking of that kinda shit.

• 18:34Bunnie XO?

  Which some of them were, some of them weren't.

• 18:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's how it happens. You know what I mean? And then, um.

• 18:38Bunnie XO?

  But also, people don't realize, baby, and I know this might be a little bit personal for you, and if you wanna cut it out, we can, but, you know, you were doing that tour under kind of extreme duress. You had fucking a root canal in the middle of it. You had an infection going on in your jaw, like.

• 18:56Speaker 04

  I was on antibiotics for seventy of the ninety days of that tour.

• 18:59Bunnie XO?

  My husband literally went to the dentist, to the oral surgeon, had surgery on his mouth, pulled up, walked in, and walked on that stage. Like, I couldn't believe.

• 19:14Speaker 04

  My mouth was still numb. I did the first three songs feeling like I had slobber coming off my face.

• 19:19Bunnie XO?

  I know. I know. And I'm just like, and you know, as your wife, it's like, you just wanna cuddle you because it's just like, fuck.

• 19:26Speaker 04

  That was Lexington.

• 19:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, it was rough. So I don't think people understand, like, you were really dealing with like, a severe situation going on in your mouth and still showing up.

• 19:36Speaker 04

  It's still there. I still gotta go get the cyst removed this month.

• 19:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 19:38Speaker 04

  I still gotta get a dime-sized cyst removed out of the middle of my teeth. Um, yeah, no, it was, I was telling somebody, it's weird. Spiritually, it was the best tour of my life. Uh, performance-wise, it was the best tour of my life. Like, the ninety minutes we were on stage, I think we connected in a way I've never connected from the stage. Overall.

• 19:57Speaker 04

  The, every, physically, even though I lost a hundred pounds, worst tour of my career. I mean, I heard it. I mean, I don't know what, I had a stomach, I thought we were gonna have to cancel the first five shows because I thought I was gonna have to get a gallbladder removed.

• 20:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh, he was in so much pain. And I just remember, like, you had, he spent the opening day of the show in Utah, you were in the hospital.

• 20:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:18Bunnie XO?

  Getting tests ran because we thought you were having like, uh, appendicitis and like, we didn't know what it was.

• 20:24Speaker 04

  Wasn't sure what it was. I hadn't ate for a week and just could not.

• 20:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:27Speaker 04

  It was horrible. And then, but I got through, the good news was, all that. Kind of pushed me further into the health journey.

• 20:34Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 20:34Speaker 04

  Like, these were all little guides, and I was already on the health journey, but these were all little things like, started now, even now. I thought about this today because I was gonna ask you if you want to go get some of our favorite sushi because I weighed in today.

• 20:45Bunnie XO?

  Yay.

• 20:46Speaker 04

  And I'm like, my cheat night is sushi.

• 20:48Bunnie XO?

  Oh. How do you think I feel when I get my blood work back and I'm like, I haven't had sugar in two years and my blood work's still wonky? My cheat days are literally eating a fucking piece of like breaded chicken.

• 20:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:00Bunnie XO?

  You know, like, it's like, we, we really have been making healthy decisions and especially you this year, like, I'm so proud of you. To lose a hundred pounds, naturally, I would like to let everybody know that it's naturally, no Ozempic, no shots, no nothing, you have regulated your hormones, you have done the work, you, before each show, you were boxing mitts.

• 21:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:22Bunnie XO?

  You had, um.

• 21:23Speaker 04

  Played basketball?

• 21:24Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 21:24Speaker 04

  I feel like a bum. I've been home three weeks and I've worked out four times. I worked out five times a week on tour.

• 21:29Bunnie XO?

  And still lot, has lost weight, though. Still losing weight. But he's doing it naturally and like, he's putting in the work and that's why I don't want anybody to ever take that from you, like, you know how I am, I'm very defensive of my husband, but I, like.

• 21:41Speaker 04

  And listen, we're not against Ozempic or any of that stuff.

• 21:43Bunnie XO?

  I wish I could take it.

• 21:44Speaker 04

  Doctor I've talked to is for it. They said it helps. I just, I was afraid of it.

• 21:48Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 21:49Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? I just, I was afraid of it. Um, so here's the truth about it. It's biggest side effects is acid reflux. And I have a hor, I had a horrible stomach issue this year. And dude, I'm just, as a singer, few things scare me more than acid reflux. Like, you'll watch me get up out of a bed, I'll burp and wake up panicked and go take something for it, you know? Because that stuff will just trip the vocal cords. Puking and that are the two things that are like the worst for your vocal cords. Besides screaming or something on a cold voice, you know?

• 22:17Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 22:18Speaker 04

  So it's like, I was petrified because everybody I talked to, it gave some sort of a stomach thing to.

• 22:22Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 22:23Speaker 04

  And I just could not afford any acid reflux. So I, I want to be very clear that not, I've done it naturally, but it wasn't out of stubbornness or trying to prove a point. If it helps you, go get it. But for me, I was just petrified of the side effects of it.

• 22:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 22:35Speaker 04

  You know, I'm in such a good, such a weird place now. I'm getting an, an antibiotic today. My wife gave me pneumonia. And, um.

• 22:42Bunnie XO?

  Son of a bitch.

• 22:43Speaker 04

  It's how it happened. It's how it happened. And I'm getting an antibiotic.

• 22:46Bunnie XO?

  You like how he snuck it in there really fast. He was like, hmm. That's for Mitch and the kiss bitch.

• 22:53Speaker 04

  You remember when you got me pneumonia?

• 22:57Bunnie XO?

  I've had pneumonia 575 times. He finally gets it one time.

• 23:02Speaker 04

  And you sent it to our doctor today and I was like, I don't want to sound, I was on antibiotics so much for my teeth. I was like, I just got, Matt, I love your podcast. We talk about real home shit.

• 23:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:13Speaker 04

  I got actual consistent motility finally.

• 23:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:18Speaker 04

  I didn't have motility the first half of this year.

• 23:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:20Speaker 04

  Until like first half, first nine months till September, when I started getting regular, a little bit of regular motility. I'm just now because I'm home and like the anxiety is off me now, really starting to get regular motility. So it's like, I told the doctor, I was like, I would rather have pneumonia than taking antibiotic. You gotta give me a shot. I'm not going through the gut. I'm not fucking my gut up.

• 23:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. And I love to hear that because literally for the past, I've been on my whole health journey for what? Since like 2018, when I've stopped drinking.

• 23:47Speaker 04

  Been almost five years, six years.

• 23:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I've been like trying to get it right. And it's, I'm just so happy that we have this in common now because it's like, we can talk about it. And like you get it and like you under, like before it was just like, kind of like, I was pissing in the wind because I didn't know what I was doing. And I was trying to learn everything and you know, trying to teach you while I'm learning. And it's like, now that you're actually going through it too, we get to just kind of relate to each other on it. And I'm just proud of you.

• 24:12Speaker 04

  I thank you.

• 24:13Bunnie XO?

  You've really done so good. And when you dial in on something, people might not know this about you, or maybe they do. When you dial in on something and you obsess about something and it becomes your fixation, you are going to fine tune it. And I love the fact that you have set a goal. Can we speak it into existence? You told me this goal that you had the other day.

• 24:32Speaker 04

  Never said this out loud.

• 24:34Bunnie XO?

  Made me so giddy because I'm so excited and I know it's going to happen. I can already visualize it. Tell everybody what it is.

• 24:39Speaker 04

  I want to be on the cover of Men's Health by March of 2026.

• 24:42Bunnie XO?

  Let's go.

• 24:44Speaker 04

  That's my new goal. So I want to have one of the biggest transformations. Also, this is where I'm at. Ooh, I'm so glad we're talking about all this. I want this to be, it's, I did this publicly for a reason. I want to be honest about my struggles with it with people. I wore it for so long. I think that people that become as big as I became, when they lose the weight, they're kind of ashamed. They're so ashamed that they go hide and lose the weight and then they come back out and they don't really know how to interact with the world, looking different or feeling different, you know? And they kind of got to find their whole new way. Where it's, I wanted to lose it in front of everybody. I wanted to talk about it. It's on my daily role vlogs. You know what I mean? I mean, it's like, this is constantly what

• 25:27Speaker 04

  I'm putting in the air because I want to bring people along with me. You know what I mean? I want people to know. And also, me and you had a conversation once that was, I thought about this a lot, and you can clip this if you don't want to use it. But one night you said something to the effect of, are you worried about the fat effect? And that most Hollywood stars who have lost a large amount of weight, ended up not getting placed in their career. And one of my buddies, Ethan, is like that. Y'all know, pull it up. I don't want to say his name wrong, Jaime. Ethan Suppley? He was on, um, Remember the Titans? Great actor. You know, he lost, he's a shredded, he's an animal. He, um,

• 26:06Bunnie XO?

  He used to be big?

• 26:07Speaker 04

  He used to be huge, like, big like me, like 400 and something pounds. Bigger than me. Not as, not as big as me, but he said, he talked about it on Rogan, that he had trouble getting, like, jobs at first when he lost the weight. You know what I mean? Because his entire-

• 26:20Bunnie XO?

  Why do you think that is?

• 26:21Speaker 04

  Well, I think what happens is the characters, like, around your size, you book a lot of these things, like, around you being kind of a big dude. Because that's a specific role. Like, a big dude is either normally a big funny dude or a big sad dude. It's definitely very, look at this dude. This is so inspiring, dude. I want to do this so bad. Um, Ethan, I'm gonna call you soon, brother. He, he offered to mentor me about this a couple of years ago. I just wasn't ready. But he, he gave me the most sound advice. He spoke my language. I, I've never heard another fat person's story that I related to like his.

• 26:52Bunnie XO?

  The transformation is wild.

• 26:54Speaker 04

  Yeah. He, um, yeah, it's a great transformation, man. And now he's getting big roles again, and leading roles again, and like, really kicking life in the ass again. But I realized that night, I thought about us talking about that. And what I want the world to know, and I want the people to see, Bunny, is that I'm, I didn't become successful because of my weight. I came, became successful in spite of it.

• 27:17Speaker 04

  I somehow managed to be this successful with carrying 550 pounds. That's insane.

• 27:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:25Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? It's like this isn't a, this is, this is, this is way.

• 27:29Bunnie XO?

  It was because you have the mentality of a skinny man. You are a skinny man trapped in a big guy's body.

• 27:36Bunnie XO?

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• 28:21Bunnie XO?

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• 29:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, for sure, for sure. But yeah, this dude right here, super inspired me.

• 29:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's awesome.

• 29:12Speaker 04

  But he's another guy that, you know, but he kinda, he kinda broke that curse and he had to go through it. He talked about it real openly on the Rogan pod where he was like, yeah, man, at first it was kinda shitty getting gigs. You know what I mean? Like people, this wasn't the dude they were looking for. They were looking for the big funny dude. You know what I mean?

• 29:26Bunnie XO?

  I think it's awesome that people get to watch your transformation too, because they get to feel like it's not alone. But like how he inspires you gets what you're doing for other people too. And people need that right now because in a world where there's so many surgeries, there's a shot you can take, which again, we're not, I wish I could take the shot. I can't. It makes me sick. But there's so much that you can do in the shadows. And instead you're just like, this is me. Here it is. This is my cross to bear. And you know, will you help me carry it?

• 29:54Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 29:55Bunnie XO?

  And I think everybody's loving it. And I think that you've always been honest and truthful. And this just is par for the course for you and people are just rooting for you and they believe in you.

• 30:06Speaker 04

  I think I also got honest about like looking at my food addiction as an addiction. Like, I used to feel like it was such an injustice to real addicts to call food something you could be addicted to. You know, because I've seen people fight for their life on heroin. But I've seen people fight for their life in their own body. You know what I mean? And I started realizing that the same patterns that I had did towards drugs or alcohol at different times of my life, is it was small compared to the consistent bad pattern I'd had with food.

• 30:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 30:41Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? It's like completely breaking that addiction. Oh, I got something else to announce on your podcast.

• 30:45Bunnie XO?

  Let's go.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  About weight.

• 30:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 30:48Speaker 04

  We are gonna do the Two Bears 5K again this year. Uh, with Bert and Tom, of course, with the boys. Love Bertie Boy.

• 30:55Bunnie XO?

  Love you, Leanne.

• 30:56Speaker 04

  Love you, Leanne and Bert. Um, I'm sure they don't mind me sharing. We haven't got no details yet, but I've talked to both of them about it. I'm gonna do the Jelly Roll Challenge this year. I'm gonna announce it really in January. I hope to partner with Kyle from Nelk to do it again, since he was the place I announced it last time I really got this journey going. But what I want to do this year is what Bert did for me last year for people like me. So Bert woke up and ran the 5K at 8 o'clock that morning and then walked it with me at 10. So what I'm gonna do this year is my goal is to wake up and run it in the morning and then I'm gonna walk it with anybody who wants to start on this journey with us. I'm gonna put together the Jelly Roll Challenge. We're gonna hold accountability, you know what I mean? Together, we're gonna do it from January until the 5K, 5K by May again.

• 31:37Speaker 04

  And dude, I hope to have several hundred plus size men and women out there busting their ass and setting goal weights to get to there before they show up. Like, I really want to do something really big for it. Me and Chef Larios, it's something we really want to cook together.

• 31:50Bunnie XO?

  I love that, we'll join in too. We did it last year with you and it was not easy. I'm just gonna let you, I'm gonna preface that now, like, and I'm pretty, I like to think I'm pretty in shape. It was rough.

• 32:03Speaker 05

  Wasn't expecting uphill.

• 32:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:07Speaker 05

  She jumped on the golf cart.

• 32:08Speaker 04

  Does she have a microphone?

• 32:10Bunnie XO?

  She's thinking we can hear, she's thinking here.

• 32:11Speaker 04

  Good.

• 32:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, it's, uh, it was rough. So, you know, if you guys are gonna do this, we would love to have you, that would be amazing. But also, please prepare.

• 32:19Speaker 04

  You gotta train. Yeah, you can't show up, um, I don't know how we're gonna do it yet, so this is like the pre-announcement, but we're gonna have a system where we'll be able to check in every week and probably put together some sort of an app or a Discord community around it. Because what I learned in that process was I trained for it pretty hard, January, February, and a little bit of March, and then fell off all of the rest of March and all of April. And I showed up in May, just the five or six weeks I took off to get back in my hole of badness.

• 32:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:48Speaker 04

  I was struggling. You know what I mean? So it's like, you gotta really take it. But, um, we're gonna walk it at a really cool pace for everybody that wants to walk it at one, you know?

• 32:56Bunnie XO?

  You also smoked weed the entire time.

• 32:59Speaker 04

  I smoke weed. Okay. This is what I do.

• 33:01Bunnie XO?

  Like, he, he wasn't just smoking joints. He was like hitting dabs while he's fucking doing this.

• 33:08Speaker 04

  Sometimes you gotta take a mid 5K dab. You know what I'm saying? I do my little walks in the morning. I go rip a little pin or something. Soon as I get to the top of that hill, I hit the pin a couple of times to congratulate myself.

• 33:19Bunnie XO?

  I can't fucking breathe. The last thing I want to breathe is fucking smoke. You're a fucking beast. You're just a beast. You're built different. It's crazy.

• 33:27Speaker 04

  I'm a D Ford.

• 33:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. True, true and true. Buddy is so proud of you. Uh, coming off that tour and, you know, losing this weight and just having all of these exciting things that you have going on. My favorite version of you is the version that I've gotten to see these past few weeks with your journey of becoming Farmer Roll.

• 33:47Speaker 04

  Farmer Roll, dude.

• 33:48Bunnie XO?

  Farmer Roll is the most content and jovial, happy version of you I've been able to see in a really long time.

• 33:56Speaker 04

  Thank you. I don't, I think it's got a lot to do with the farm because I'm getting a good peace of mind out there.

• 34:00Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 34:01Speaker 04

  But dude, I think that you're gonna say this next year when I lose another hundred pounds and be like, dude, just when I thought you couldn't get any cooler or more happy in life and more light in your eyes, like that behind the scenes talk again. Me and my wife are there the other day and we're, we snuggle in the kitchen and dance all the time. It's just big, we're big touch each other people.

• 34:21Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 34:21Speaker 04

  And, uh, when we were, we were, we were doing it and I go, dude, I'm so in love with you right now. And you go, well, welcome back. Where you been? And I said, I said, I'm sorry it took so long. I cannot believe I walked around like a 550 pound zombie for years. You know what I mean? Like, I even look back at the pictures and you could, I mean, I was just hollow, but I'm still morbidly obese, but I'm gonna lose the weight. I'm gonna keep getting it off like I have been. Just a hundred and thirty or a hundred, whatever I've lost, whatever that number is today. I think it's like literally like a hundred and forty or something.

• 34:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. That's a cra- that's a human.

• 34:56Speaker 04

  It's a human.

• 34:56Bunnie XO?

  You lost a human.

• 34:57Speaker 04

  I lost a whole.

• 34:58Bunnie XO?

  You're li- you literally lost somebody my size, but ten, plus seventeen pounds.

• 35:02Speaker 04

  No, I lost a human. So it's like, and I feel great and my lower back still hurts and I still feel lethargic and I still struggle on my walks and I'm still, I'm still three hundred and ninety pounds.

• 35:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 35:14Speaker 04

  Three hundred, you know what I mean? Three hundred and ninety-five pounds. So I think that we're gonna see this just get better and better.

• 35:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 35:21Speaker 04

  Also, man, I just, I'm managing my stress. This isn't maybe not the healthy way to do it, but. I can confidently tell people I'm not gonna have a phone all of 25.

• 35:31Bunnie XO?

  Well, let's talk about it. So you threw your phone in the Cumberland River.

• 35:37Bunnie XO?

  And I'd like to think Bailey and I egged it on a little bit because we knew you were drunk. And if we were like, yeah, go do it. You'd be like, okay.

• 35:43Speaker 04

  No, no, no. You know what's cool? It's the thank you for that. I needed the egg. But I was determined. I talked about this in interviews all year. I was like, if this tour, if this tour goes the way I want it to, I'm gonna throw my phone off the Shelby Street Bridge.

• 35:58Speaker 04

  And I was proud of myself for getting in the passenger seat of that car in that condition that night. And looking at the driver who had no clue where we were going and be like, go over the interstate, just keep going straight. And he's like, where are we going? I'm like, bust a right. Go around the loop, go there. And we're pulling up the bridge and I hit the hazards and I was like, stop right in the middle of the bridge.

• 36:14Bunnie XO?

  He probably thought you were gonna jump off the bridge.

• 36:18Speaker 04

  What is this dude doing? I was very persistent. And got out and but I

• 36:26Speaker 04

  I was getting to a point that I was getting hundreds and hundreds of text messages a day. And I just was overwhelmed. I just could not feel them all. And then when I would finally sit down to go back through them, I would just feel like such a bad human for missing them and like I just, I was carrying a lot of guilt. This phone was causing me a lot of guilt.

• 36:46Bunnie XO?

  Which honestly, it shouldn't because people should understand that you are so busy.

• 36:51Speaker 04

  This is on me though. Like they wouldn't even say, I would, I would just feel guilty of like, looking back and seeing six or seven missed text messages from somebody I love. You're just like, man, I just, you know, I just, and then you get to a point where like, but I love so many people. There's so much love in my phone and I just, I don't, I can't feel it. I just cannot, I don't have the I don't have the personality for this anyways. I'm glad we're talking about this on this podcast because people think this is like, that's why I said it the day before I threw the phone. I was like,

• 37:20Speaker 04

  People that know me, this is like on par for me. You know what I mean?

• 37:24Bunnie XO?

  You did this when we first got together. Like, I don't, I don't want people to think that this is something new and that he's just being dramatic. Like, my husband has been throwing phones away. I've had the same number for almost a decade. My husband has had about seventeen.

• 37:38Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 37:39Bunnie XO?

  Like, the first year we were, we were together, he refused to have a phone. The only way people could get a hold of him was through me. Like, and then he finally got a flip phone, like, after a year.

• 37:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:50Bunnie XO?

  So, I mean, this isn't-

• 37:51Speaker 04

  And that's where I'm at now. I'm gonna flip phone next year. I'm in a complete, you know, I'm like, I don't, it's healthy for me. I would use my phone as a way to avoid as well, so-

• 38:03Bunnie XO?

  Disassociate.

• 38:03Speaker 04

  It would, yeah, for sure. It's like, I would be missing text messages and know there were so many over there that it was too stressful to go check. So, I would avoid that by mindless scrolling or, you know, um, I had these news alerts on my phone. And then we become big news stories all the time. And like, I started getting caught up in that and it's just not who I want to be. It doesn't make me a better person. And ultimately, I just want to be a better person. Like, I want to just, I want to be a better husband. I want to be a better father. I want to be a better human. I want to be a better artist. You know what I mean? I just, these are, I realize the phone does not help me be any of the stuff I actually want to be.

• 38:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 38:44Speaker 04

  You know what I mean?

• 38:45Bunnie XO?

  Oh, that's stressful. And social media, you've always had a love-hate relationship with social media. And I think it's because you are so extroverted that when you do finally speak up on social media, it, it's always like a big statement, you know? So, it always ends up going viral and like, you know, and you're just literally being you. Like, whenever you did that thing on Twitter where you were like, hey, I'm gonna expose the industry. Like, can we talk about that?

• 39:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, for sure.

• 39:10Bunnie XO?

  What, when you made that tweet, what led up to you making that tweet? And then what did you mean by that?

• 39:15Speaker 04

  It's funny, I talked about this on McAfee a little bit. So for the sake of not wanting it to be a news headline again, I won't go as in depth as I did with McAfee.

• 39:24Bunnie XO?

  I won't clip it. How about that?

• 39:25Speaker 04

  So go, go check McAfee's if you want to see it.

• 39:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 39:29Speaker 04

  I learned that with my Jesus talk on Flagrant when people were like, what's that view again? I was like, go watch it.

• 39:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 39:36Bunnie XO?

  That's good though. That's smart.

• 39:37Speaker 04

  Straight up. Go watch it. I said it. It's there.

• 39:42Speaker 04

  I'm not hiding. That's how I feel. I would just like it not to be on Fox News again.

• 39:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 39:48Speaker 04

  But I, you know what's so funny about the Twitter thing? One, how just, I was so wrong at how I handled that across the board. I was kind of not familiar with Twitter, like, you know, and I was getting ready. Ah, man, please y'all know, don't judge me for this, but the only time I'm on social media really at all is when I'm in album mode, when it's time, because somebody's got to promote the album and nobody's ever promoted my stuff but me.

• 40:14Bunnie XO?

  You're an artist. Most artists do hate social media. They want nothing to do with it.

• 40:19Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 40:19Bunnie XO?

  Like The Weeknd, you think he's on fucking social media? Fuck no.

• 40:22Speaker 04

  For sure, but.

• 40:22Bunnie XO?

  Only when it's album time.

• 40:23Speaker 04

  Yeah. So it's like when it's album time, I'm definitely a lot more active. So I was like, I should get on Twitter and get more active. And I have a lot of friends over there that speak highly of the place. You know what I mean? That do their business solely on X. You know what I mean? So I was like, oh, this, you know, this might be a good place for me. And I had never experienced viral Twitter, except for like award speeches, never, nothing I posted. Any viral Twitter X moment I'd ever had, I, I wasn't responsible for the content being uploaded. So I just never thought I would say, you know, I kind of get loose and just say, you know, I just tweet stuff. I don't, like everybody else. I'm mindless. And, uh, I think I tweeted, yeah, I think, I'm, I think, man, I'm going to expose industry. First of all, wow, the

• 41:04Speaker 04

  word expose. Right. I don't regret the tweet, but I mean, in hindsight, like I had some real top secret Illuminati information. You know what I mean? And that is how Twitter received it, by the way.

• 41:18Bunnie XO?

  Anytime you say expose an industry, they automatically go to devil worshiping.

• 41:22Speaker 04

  Yeah. And it's like, I didn't see that coming.

• 41:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  And that hurt my heart. Um, I talked about this on McAfee, but I'll go a lot deeper here with you on this because you know my heart. And I just have such a heart for Jesus, man. That just hurt me to even. It's like, how much do you not know me?

• 41:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:39Speaker 04

  To even think that like, if you think, the Illuminati can't call me. I, I am friends with the name that makes them scatter. Devils can't come to me. I am, I am, the king of kings is my friend. The lord of, that's my guy. I am safe. I don't worry about any satanic stuff. I'll watch it on TV. I'm not bothered by it in any regard.

• 42:04Bunnie XO?

  Can I interject? When he says he doesn't watch it on TV, he means that him and I both, if there's something gruesome on TV, we both cover our eyes.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  For sure. Yeah.

• 42:13Bunnie XO?

  He really does not fuck with that.

• 42:15Speaker 04

  But, but I don't avoid it. You know what I mean? It's like, I won't not watch something because I don't live in that world. I don't, oh, you gotta be careful. I remember them old, old crazy Christians would always be like, you gotta be careful. You open that big of a gateway and Satan will come through. It's like, I'll open the door and dare him.

• 42:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 42:31Speaker 04

  I got God. You know what I'm saying? Like, we live in two different faiths. You know, it's like, so that hurt my feelings. Cause then I was like, I'm not

• 42:39Speaker 04

  going to go on here and defend my faith to a bunch of people that don't know me at all.

• 42:43Bunnie XO?

  That are just dead set on trying to misunderstand you, no matter what you say.

• 42:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like, that's something else I've learned is like, every one of these things I've went through where people were weird towards me about anything, it was people that were never gonna be for me anyways.

• 42:54Bunnie XO?

  Exactly.

• 42:55Speaker 04

  You know what I mean?

• 42:55Bunnie XO?

  You had to teach me that.

• 42:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, they were already looking for a reason to be against me. So anything they could hang on is like, and I try not to go into talking about my faith a lot, not because I'm ashamed. I'm so unashamed of my faith. I wear it on my face. But I believe that faith is an action word. I don't believe it's something you just talk about on podcasts. In short, I think that, you know, I just, I try to wear my faith and not talk about it.

• 43:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 43:17Speaker 04

  You know, and uh, so yeah, that just hurt my feelings. The whole, that whole Twitter exchange. And then, so not only did I use a bad word when I said exposed, then I doubled down. You wanna talk about committing, just doing it wrong twice in a row?

• 43:30Bunnie XO?

  You're like your wife.

• 43:31Speaker 04

  Then I, then I doubled down on my fuck up and I'm like, pretty much, you're mean here. I'm taking my ball and going home. That's pretty much what I said. I don't remember the tweet exactly, but it pretty much translated to,

• 43:41Bunnie XO?

  That's how it translated.

• 43:42Speaker 04

  It translated to, y'all are mean to me. I'm taking my ball and going home.

• 43:46Bunnie XO?

  I'm telling my mom.

• 43:47Speaker 04

  It's exactly like, I'm telling the principal. You know what I mean? I just fucking, I'm so embarrassed at how I handled that.

• 43:54Bunnie XO?

  But, but, okay, you know, I'm gonna hindsight's 2020 and the internet is a fucking ruthless place and X, I'm scared of X. That's my lowest platform. I won't even get on there. They're fucking insane over there. So you had every right to be like, yo, I'm fucking done with this. I'm taking a mental health break. I don't want to deal with you guys. Like, I completely 100% understand it.

• 44:16Speaker 04

  I'm also used to post and go sites. Like, you put something on Twitter and you get a re- I mean, on TikTok and you get a reaction, but it grows over the course of a week because people aren't that engaged all the time. They're looking at constant new content. Most of the average X users on there just sitting, waiting to have one of their things they said to somebody ding so they can respond right back.

• 44:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 44:37Speaker 04

  It's like that engagement. It's like a text thread. It's crazy. So it's like, when I realized that, I was like, oh, this place. And listen, I don't think Twitter's a bad spot or X is a bad spot. I think that it's like any other platform and I ended up on the other side of it. Like, you can't, like, you know, sometimes you just end up in an algorithm of mean people. You know what I'm saying?

• 44:55Bunnie XO?

  It happened to me.

• 44:56Speaker 04

  And they have an algorithm. There are mean people out there that are on the internet that have an algorithm of stuff they're just mean about. It's just what they do.

• 45:01Bunnie XO?

  That's why I don't go on Twitter. I accidentally ended up on that side of it. Like, the first time I tried to start using it by posting just a quote, you know, like people post quotes and I got accused of like plagiarism and was attacked, remember?

• 45:13Speaker 04

  I fought for you then. I don't know why I went, you know, why I went back after that. I should have seen that. But I think, I think I'll be back. I'll go back to X one day. Um, I just, I should have handled that differently. I blew that one. I'm glad we clipped that, by the way. That's fine to clip. I blew that one. I should have, I should have handled that whole X thing totally differently.

• 45:30Bunnie XO?

  I feel like social media is draining, period.

• 45:33Speaker 04

  I'm off of it now. It's like, I'm just out of it. But in hindsight, like you said, where it's all 2020, I just should have, you know, I just, I shouldn't have even responded. I don't know why.

• 45:41Bunnie XO?

  Well, we, we are learning how to handle, I don't even like using the word fame because I don't feel famous. You're famous. I don't feel famous.

• 45:48Speaker 04

  I don't feel famous. I got famous friends. I'm not famous.

• 45:51Bunnie XO?

  But we're learning how to handle this new world. And, you know, I'm outspoken and you're pretty outspoken in things that you're passionate about. So I think whenever, um, you know, we do speak up, we feel like we're fighting the good fight. But in reality, it's like, we can't win and we've just learned that we have to be silent about things.

• 46:09Speaker 04

  And I've also learned that like, I don't, we don't, I don't have to fight any of those fights anymore.

• 46:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 46:15Speaker 04

  Like I fight, we fight the good fight.

• 46:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 46:17Speaker 04

  At the biggest scale you can fight it at, we fight Congress for reform and fentanyl and drug addiction and how they treat addicts. And we fight for rights of people like we, we fight, you know what I mean? Like our, our ministry is way bigger than our internet presence anyways. You know what I mean? We physically, and I just feel like we, I just gotta keep doing that. Cause that's my existence on social media only exists because I write songs that I think people relate to. And because I stand up for people that aren't stood up for in a critical mass scale. Like I'm so proud of I'm not okay.

• 46:53Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 46:54Speaker 04

  To have a song that sat in the top 20 of the Billboard Hot 100 for six months. That's talking about mental health.

• 47:01Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 47:01Speaker 04

  That doesn't happen. Those kinds of songs don't live in those spaces for that long. You know what I mean? The subject matter I sing about doesn't live in that critical of a mass. Like Believe being the number one most added song on country radio this week. You know what I mean? Like this is a, you know, like, so I learned that I don't gotta fight a, a fight on X about, you know, I should've, I should've never posted. There was nothing, I exposed what it was to be, I didn't expose. New word, damn, I blew it again. I didn't expose, I told the truth about the scenario.

• 47:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 47:31Speaker 04

  And it happened and.

• 47:32Bunnie XO?

  And what she talks about that on Pat McAfee and.

• 47:35Speaker 04

  That's the, we'll leave that there. Everything else you can clip, but the, leave that there. But that was what the actual problem was.

• 47:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 47:41Speaker 04

  And, uh, yeah, man, X is all good, man. Peace and love. I met Elon. I wonder why he looked at me weird, man.

• 47:46Bunnie XO?

  What was it like meeting Elon and Trump? Can we talk about that?

• 47:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, let's talk about it.

• 47:49Bunnie XO?

  Let's talk about it because it has been such a huge debacle on the internet that you, um, we are raised in a generation where in elementary school, you are told that, hey, you can become the president. Hey, you, the president is like the highest honor that you can have in the world. So when you meet a president, that's a fucking honor. No matter if you like them or not, it's still a fucking honor.

• 48:12Speaker 04

  It's, dude, there's like.

• 48:16Speaker 04

  There's not a chance in hell I'm not going to meet the president-elect.

• 48:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:21Speaker 04

  I don't care, you know, how that would have, if I would have got a call to go meet Joe Biden, at any point, I would have stopped what I was doing to go meet him. That's the active president. I wouldn't have cared what people thought about, even what I think about his policies. I don't, because I don't, I don't hide behind the "I'm not political" stuff. I'm not political. Like, people who actually know me know that I am, I'm also one of them old-school dudes. You talked about this earlier with me. I like to talk about things I'm passionate about. With that, I like to know about them. I don't know enough about politics to act like I know anything that's going on, what anybody's standing for policy-wise. I genuinely don't know.

• 48:59Bunnie XO?

  I think the government's a sham, and I have been a conspiracy theorist my entire life. I voted one time when I was 18. I think it was from Ronald Reagan. I don't even remember. It was fucking way back in the fucking, the fucking 90s and shit. Or maybe it was like, Bush. I don't fucking know. I don't know. But either way, I didn't know what I was doing. I just knew that I was 18 and it was time to vote, and that's what I was taught to do, you know?

• 49:23Speaker 04

  I didn't grow up in a voting culture. My father didn't push voting on me. My mother didn't push voting on me. Like, like, they did push "respect our president" on me, though. They did, like, like, my father was real big about, "You don't disrespect," you know what I mean? Like, you just, you know, like, that's the hardest job in the world. Like, respect to whoever has it, you know? And, uh...

• 49:44Bunnie XO?

  I grew up in a family that fought over politics. I had a Republican mom and a Democrat father who I watched how it would tear people apart at a young age, before any of this was on the fucking internet. There was nothing about that that I wanted to even be involved in. I actually have political trauma. I have just coined that term. Everybody, start using that term.

• 50:05Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, I feel that. I, when I look back at my relationship with politics... Like, we didn't watch election night.

• 50:12Bunnie XO?

  Mm hmm.

• 50:12Speaker 04

  I don't have one memory of us like as a family really giving a shit who was getting elected.

• 50:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:18Speaker 04

  So I just always carried that.

• 50:20Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 50:20Speaker 04

  Now, fast forward, like, I knew who Robert Kennedy was because I liked how he was talking. When he was an independent, it's the first time I seen a podcast. Also, I'm a podcast listener. Politicians just made it my way this year.

• 50:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:36Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? You feel me?

• 50:38Bunnie XO?

  Because Trump was on Joe Rogan.

• 50:40Speaker 04

  He was on Theo.

• 50:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:41Speaker 04

  It's like, I caught him on Theo. It's the first time I listened to a fool and Schultz. He did Schultz, he did all my boys, he did bust them with the boys.

• 50:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:48Speaker 04

  So it's like.

• 50:48Bunnie XO?

  He did the circuit.

• 50:49Speaker 04

  Even that, like, I remember when the Vivek guy, Ramaswamy, was doing a podcast where I didn't know who he was from The Man on the Moon. He just showed up on one of the podcasts I like.

• 50:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:57Speaker 04

  So I'm listening to it on YouTube. So I don't. And I was like, oh, this dude's kind of like, I dig what he's doing. So the only time my ears perked at all, because he speaks for like, you know, he's a recovering addict.

• 51:12Speaker 04

  Works the steps in the program. Believes in food addiction, believes in, you know, changing the food in America. Like, these core things that, this is all I heard him talk about.

• 51:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I respect it too.

• 51:23Speaker 04

  There's a thousand comments right now, people going, he also, and you know, he did something bad. Yeah, you know what I mean? I was just like, fucking, I don't know.

• 51:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 51:28Speaker 04

  You know, there's gonna be somebody commenting the horrible things he's done. But it's like, I'm just telling you what I heard on the podcast. I was like, this dude makes sense.

• 51:34Bunnie XO?

  I only know Robert Kennedy, and that this, this will go to show you how much we do not know about politics. I only know Robert Kennedy for wanting to improve the food also. And that's the only thing I know about him. But that also speaks volumes of how social media versus the media on TV, like, you know, the, the news channels control people's opinions. We don't watch those news channels. We watch social media and podcast clips and stuff like that. And that's kind of where we've gotten our information from. Again, not enough information to go to the voting polls.

• 52:06Speaker 04

  Still, still not enough. I watched quite a few hours of Trump podcasts and I still didn't have enough information about his policies, frankly.

• 52:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 52:13Speaker 04

  To be like, I'm gonna go vote for this guy. You know what I mean? Cause, but I don't, because I wanna, I don't know enough about it to talk about it.

• 52:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 52:19Speaker 04

  But I liked Robert Kennedy because he was really for addicts and he was really for changing food and he was really for like. Broken America, my people, our people.

• 52:27Bunnie XO?

  He used to be an addict.

• 52:28Speaker 04

  For sure. That's what I said. He works the steps. He sponsors people. I mean, this dude's a real recovery story.

• 52:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 52:34Speaker 04

  So I was just, when I heard Trump put him there, I was like, oh, this is cool. So Robert Kennedy had heard my speech on fentanyl and he came and him and Tulsi came and talked to me first. Um, you know, they were great. They were awesome. And then we went out there and sat down. And I looked over and I mean, I was excited to do like, first of all, I hope we get to use this because this is such a cool story.

• 52:58Speaker 04

  The music goes silent in the room for about two minutes and I'm out there watching the fights before the main card starts. And the lights come up and one big loud, you hear a American badass and I'm telling you,

• 53:11Speaker 04

  I've never, I've been to festivals, I've experienced, I mean, dude, I remember sitting out front of house tripping acid, watching Guns N' Roses at Louder Than Life. Like I've had some bone chilling moments, 68 degrees with a breeze. You know what I mean? Just those moments that you think about forever.

• 53:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 53:31Speaker 04

  I don't care who you were, if you were in that building, the hair on your skin stood up.

• 53:37Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 53:38Speaker 04

  When that came out and you looked and all you're watching is the president-elect who got elected like eight days ago, walking in with his entire cabinet with him almost.

• 53:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 53:50Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? And his kids and his grandchildren. And it was powerful, dude. Like, I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. I don't know anything about politics, but I'm telling you, everybody's like, you look really, you got a goofy smile on your face. I'm like, y'all couldn't feel what we were feeling.

• 54:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 54:04Speaker 04

  Like that room was palpitating.

• 54:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 54:08Speaker 04

  And when Trump walks right by me, I'm like, he don't know who I am. So right then I was like, well, damn, I'm not gonna get to meet the president. I was kind of sad. You know what I'm saying? I was like, damn, I kind of want to meet the president.

• 54:16Bunnie XO?

  That's your little boy.

• 54:17Speaker 04

  Right, I want to meet the president. This is the president of the U. He's just the president.

• 54:21Bunnie XO?

  If we went to Noah right now and said, Noah, do you want to meet the president? His eyes would probably light up right now.

• 54:27Speaker 04

  He would lose his mind. You know what I mean? It'd be like, you know, he, uh, so I was like, this is the president. And then I kind of got like, damn, I'm not gonna meet him. And Amber had came to me. She's a hero. If we do publish this, I gotta use this part because Amber is. The goat. She's Dana's right hand for all that stuff. And she's, you know, she just, she comes to me. She's like, hey, don't worry. I'm gonna make sure you meet him. I was like, I don't think he knows who I am. And I didn't want to go meet him and kind of it be a hollow thing, to be honest. So I was kind of in that torn ego spot. Not ego place, but I was like, do I want to meet him and it just be like a hollow? And I kind of look over and he makes eye contact. And what you don't see in the video was, he gives me the Trump point. He goes, he goes, bring it in. And I start walking over and I'm like,

• 55:09Bunnie XO?

  That's like grandpa.

• 55:10Speaker 04

  Dude, I'm like, I'm like, my heart is like,

• 55:15Speaker 04

  And I go to shake his hand. I put my hand on his shoulder, which right then I was like, I hope Secret Service don't choke me out or something. I know you're not supposed to touch him. And he puts his hand on my shoulder. So we're doing this thing, you know? And he's like, uh, I can't do the impression. I wish I could. But he's like, I love save me. He's like, and he quits shaking my hand and he does the Trump hands. He goes, love, save me. And uh, he's like, you're doing incredible things. And I was like, thank you.

• 55:44Speaker 04

  And about that time, Kid Rock displays the ultimate homie move.

• 55:49Bunnie XO?

  Value.

• 55:50Speaker 04

  He leans right over Kid Rock. I've just shook the president's hand. He's just told me he knows who I am. And he leans right over and he goes,

• 56:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 56:03Speaker 04

  That's what he said in that moment. How gangster was that?

• 56:06Bunnie XO?

  Amazing.

• 56:07Speaker 04

  Right? Just me. And I'm looking at Bob and I'm like, I love you, dude. Like, thank you. And then I'm starting to, as I start to turn around, Dana comes over. And this is who Dana is.

• 56:20Bunnie XO?

  I love Dana White.

• 56:21Speaker 04

  Dana White is the dude.

• 56:22Bunnie XO?

  He's a fucking G.

• 56:23Speaker 04

  Clip Dana White is the dude.

• 56:25Bunnie XO?

  Dana White is a fucking G.

• 56:27Speaker 04

  He's a G. He's the nicest dude. He's to give you anything, do anything.

• 56:30Bunnie XO?

  He's an Aquarius, right?

• 56:32Speaker 04

  I don't know. He's, I tell you what he is. Dana White is Jesus. He's very close to Jesus.

• 56:37Bunnie XO?

  Jesus for fighters.

• 56:38Speaker 04

  Dana, Dana is Jesus. Dana and Jesus are very close to the same person.

• 56:43Bunnie XO?

  Messiah.

• 56:43Speaker 04

  Yeah. Dana White, I bet he's a, I bet he's a, uh, August baby. Yeah.

• 56:48Bunnie XO?

  Oh, he's a Leo.

• 56:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, I bet he's a Leo.

• 56:49Bunnie XO?

  Okay. Love that.

• 56:50Speaker 04

  Um, him and Hunter Campbell, which you know who Hunter is. Uh, Hunter's our boy, Las Vegas born and raised guy. Dana's right hand man. Great guy. And Dana walks over and right then grabs Trump and goes,

• 57:08Speaker 04

  Help us out.

• 57:11Bunnie XO?

  You know what I love though is that all these boys like you guys are so tough. You guys are so alpha. You guys are just like represent everything masculine or whatever the world wants to say toxic masculine, not you. You're not included in that. But it's like they're really just soft teddy bears who just love their people and are loyal AF.

• 57:31Speaker 04

  Loyal, man. Dana is, Dana taught me something, man. He said, I'll pick people over money 100% of the time. He said, I'll invest in people before I will businesses. I believe in people. I believe in tight groups. Like he like, and you look at it, his staff is like Amber and them people, they've been with him forever, decades. You know what I mean? Like he carries, you know, that his, who he is shows and who's around him and how, and that's why he, dude Dana White is the dude.

• 57:58Bunnie XO?

  I was nervous to meet him the first time we met him in Vegas. Well, the first time I met him, but you had already hung out with him. I was so nervous. You guys were there, remember?

• 58:04Speaker 05

  He was so nice.

• 58:05Bunnie XO?

  And he was the sweetest human ever. Like I did not, because on camera, he's, you know, says crazy shit and is very aggressive. So it's like, you never know what you're gonna get. And then you meet him in person and he is the sweetest human, just very loving, very welcoming. Like it's just the epitome of.

• 58:21Speaker 04

  To cheer my boy on for a second. He got on that Gary Brekka shit, lost all that weight. That dude is, that dude is different, man. He's gotten cooler. Like if you watch his pest crofters now, you don't even get mad at people no more. That's how much his health journey's changed him. He's just like, whatever, he'll just move on. Dana does not give a fuck.

• 58:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 58:37Speaker 04

  He's a, but he's a ride for you kind of guy, man. I'm so glad we got to talk about Dana on here, dude. I haven't got to really just, that dude is one of the most special humans I've ever met in my life, man.

• 58:46Bunnie XO?

  He deserves his flowers. He's a powerhouse man. And to create the community that he's created in the UFC is phenomenal.

• 58:53Speaker 04

  And it's bad. It's his people too, though, man. He, I mean, um, every one of those guys I've met from the UFC were great, but Hunter Campbell is just.

• 59:03Bunnie XO?

  We met him at, I met him at your Vegas show, right?

• 59:06Speaker 04

  Exactly. Yep. He came out to the, he comes out all the time. Hunter's the homie too, man. He is. And you know what I love about him and I know because I love you and I love how you love Vegas, like as a local girl, like born in Houston, Vegas. He's a local Vegas dude, tried and true. Like he's proud of that stuff.

• 59:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 59:22Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? Like went to a public high school. Like he's a Vegas dude.

• 59:25Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I know. The first thing he asked me was, what's your cross streets? Anybody from Vegas, that's, that's, that's our, hi, how you doing? It's what, what's your cross streets? And then you know what side they grew up on? And then you're like, oh, okay. You get your flowers. Okay. You're fucking spoiled. You know, like we, we get it.

• 59:39Speaker 04

  That's awesome, dude. That's cool. No, hundreds to do, man. So we're there, the UFC, you know, also, so we're clear, I was at the UFC event that night.

• 59:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 59:48Speaker 04

  Because John Jones is the greatest fighter ever.

• 59:51Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 59:51Speaker 04

  He is the greatest.

• 59:52Bunnie XO?

  John Jones fan forever.

• 59:53Speaker 04

  Man, let's get real deep here on this podcast. Day one Jelly Roll fans will trip about this. He was Mondo's favorite fighter. He was Armando Smoo, God rest his soul. For those that don't know, Mondo was one of my best little, he was like a little brother to me. And he was tragically shot and killed probably a decade plus ago now. But Dana White, I mean, uh, John Jones was his, was our favorite fighter. In fact, this is fun to tell. We drove down to watch John Jones fight Rashad Evans for the belt at the Phillips Arena in Atlanta, Georgia. And sat up in section 312 or something like that. I mean, we sat up there by God. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? We sat up there, you feel me? And we had the best night of our life up there. Me and, me and Mondo and Jonathan Ivey, we partied.

• 1:00:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:35Speaker 04

  And we just went to go see John Jones. We were just so into the John Jones hype train.

• 1:00:38Bunnie XO?

  And you've always been a fight fan. I've always been a fight fan too, which is one thing that we've bonded on.

• 1:00:43Speaker 04

  Uh, you know, Dana's been inviting me to these things for a couple of years now. People from the UFC, even before Dana.

• 1:00:48Bunnie XO?

  And I don't think you even need a Trump.

• 1:00:50Speaker 04

  Cowboy Seroni and me are really close. I have a lot, so many fighter friends, you know, Ian Larios, uh, just won trainer of the year. Thank y'all.

• 1:00:56Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:00:57Speaker 04

  Thank y'all for that. By the way, this is for y'all that voted on Larios. World MMA trainer of the year, huge deal. And I found him through George Lockhart, who I found because I was a fight fan.

• 1:01:07Bunnie XO?

  We miss you, George.

• 1:01:08Speaker 04

  Love you, Georgie. These are dudes who worked with fighters and I was such a fight fan. I knew so much about fighting. I knew who their chefs were.

• 1:01:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:14Speaker 04

  You know what I'm saying? Like I was that ingrained, I'm that ingrained in fight culture. So, you know, this was, this, I'm, I'm going to the UFC events because I'm a huge dude. Who's going to miss John Jones at Madison Square Garden? And John's at that age where you just never know if he's going to hang it up or not.

• 1:01:29Bunnie XO?

  I thought he was retired already.

• 1:01:31Speaker 04

  Super rich. You never know. It's like he's, he's, what more can he do?

• 1:01:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:35Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? At this point, he's just showing out. You know what I mean? So at any time, I'm like, I'll go to every John Jones fight he has, because one day, he's gonna clip those gloves off, and I'm gonna be able to say, dude, I seen the greatest fighter ever do it.

• 1:01:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:46Speaker 04

  Multiple. I seen him do it at Madison Square Garden, Phillips Arena, and Vegas. I wanna go see him in Vegas now.

• 1:01:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:52Speaker 04

  But, um.

• 1:01:53Bunnie XO?

  Be awesome.

• 1:01:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, so meeting President Trump was cool. Ultimately, I don't really care. Any blowback I get about it, the truth is, it was really cool to meet the president.

• 1:02:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, and I mean, anybody who gets the opportunity to meet a president, a vice president, anything like that, it's, it's a fucking honor.

• 1:02:08Speaker 04

  I'm honored, man. I was honored to every senator that took the time to come talk to me about my testimony. I was honored. And I didn't know if, what side any of them were on the aisle.

• 1:02:17Bunnie XO?

  That's what we're doing this for, to make a change. You know, you're gonna go, what are you gonna be rude to the president and then go speak in front of Congress? And asking him for favors to help with the, you know, like, it's just, people don't think.

• 1:02:28Speaker 04

  I'm trying to bring things together here, man. It's, I, I'm gonna work with whatever administrations in play for the rest of my life, because my cause will always be what it is.

• 1:02:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:38Speaker 04

  And that's always gonna involve me having to go figure this, you know, have these conversations, so.

• 1:02:43Bunnie XO?

  You lead with love in everything you do, and I, if people can't see that, then it's like you said, they're just not wanting to.

• 1:02:49Speaker 04

  It's also about seeing people for people. The fight before that, I'd sat next to Don Jr. and, um, his, his whole family, his wife, daughter, I sat next to their whole family. And what a sweet guy.

• 1:03:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:01Speaker 04

  You know, as a human, right? Like, as a human being, like, he was self-deprecating, he was funny, he made light of himself, like, he was charming, he was just fun to sit next to. You know what I mean? It's like, the dude's a great guy. You know what I mean? Like, the time I spent with him, what a great guy. So it's like, you start meeting these people as humans, you know?

• 1:03:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:22Speaker 04

  When I got to spend an hour talking to Bobby Kennedy in Tulsi, and they were really telling me what their plans are, and help addicts, and what their plans are to kind of change the health, I don't wanna, you know, speak, but they got real plans on how to help. My people.

• 1:03:36Bunnie XO?

  America.

• 1:03:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, people that are really struggling.

• 1:03:39Bunnie XO?

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• 1:05:50Bunnie XO?

  Head to masterclass.com slash bunny to see the latest offer. Moving on from that amazing story, because it is amazing. You're going on tour with Posty Maloney. First, you're going on tour in Canada and then you're doing Post.

• 1:06:06Speaker 04

  Yes. Well, yeah.

• 1:06:08Bunnie XO?

  I can't believe that they're, they were finally getting into camp.

• 1:06:11Speaker 04

  We'll go do Canada in March. It's my first time headlining in Canada. I mean, I did those three festivals last year. This is our first headline in an arena tour in Canada. Sold out pretty much, like two venues that aren't completely sold. It's crazy. I'm going to take, we had shows. I mean, it's couldn't even wrap my head around this kind of reception, really.

• 1:06:30Speaker 04

  And then Post, you know, it was cool. I was looking at the calendar today on the laptop at the house right before I came. That tour is like bigger than I thought it was.

• 1:06:37Bunnie XO?

  It's pretty big.

• 1:06:38Speaker 04

  It's a big tour.

• 1:06:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. And you're hitting all the major cities.

• 1:06:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:06:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're hitting every, you know, we're hitting big parks and I'm just, I love Posty, dude. He's such a good guy.

• 1:06:47Bunnie XO?

  He's so funny, you guys. He's so funny. If there's one thing I want people to know about Post Malone is how funny he is.

• 1:06:57Speaker 04

  There's one thing I want people to know is that he's actually as nice as y'all think he is. He's actually almost too nice.

• 1:07:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:03Speaker 04

  Like, it's insane how nice that guy is and just respectful of every situation he's in and just, you know, just he, like you said, he leads with love, too.

• 1:07:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:13Speaker 04

  He's just one of those guys.

• 1:07:14Bunnie XO?

  I feel like you guys all find each other, though. Like, the people that are loyal and that are loving and like, you, you put out what you attract, you know? And I think that that's a testimony of just who you are as a human also.

• 1:07:25Speaker 04

  I'm just so glad God gave this to us at this age. Because God knows if he gave this to me in my late twenties, I'd have tried to divide and conquer. I'd have had a whole different mentality. Because I've just had a whole different moral compass then.

• 1:07:37Bunnie XO?

  Same. I would have probably killed myself.

• 1:07:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, me too. I really worried. I would have purposely done it, but yeah, I would have, I would have took it too far.

• 1:07:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:43Speaker 04

  Doing something. So I'm really glad that success came for us later because, you know, and it's also cool because I get to kind of be.

• 1:07:51Speaker 04

  I'm the newest artist in the game, but I'm like automatically the big brother. You know what I mean? Because of life experiences and the fact that it just took me a lot longer to get to the dance. You know what I mean? So, but Post, man.

• 1:08:02Bunnie XO?

  But man, we're dancing.

• 1:08:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're dancing, dude. Uh, when Post called, I was like, it's a no brainer, man. This is like, this is the coolest thing ever. So I'm so excited, dude.

• 1:08:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm excited for you guys. We're gonna come out to a couple of the shows too, and I just can't wait to see you guys together because it's just electric. You know, and he comes and supports you even when it's just behind the scenes, like no, no notoriety, nothing. He doesn't want the cameras or the glitz and the glamour. He just comes to see you. Moving on from Post, let's talk about another big accomplishment that you have going on. Sonic the frickin Hedgehog Daddy.

• 1:08:36Speaker 04

  Oh dude.

• 1:08:38Speaker 04

  How co- Ryan Teter. Thank you, Ryan Teter. Ryan Teter just get, that was a layup from him.

• 1:08:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:43Speaker 04

  He called and was like, yo, I wrote the Sonic the Hedgehog theme song, but they want you to sing it. I was like, they want me to do the Sonic the Hedgehog song? He's like, yeah, dude. Just like, Teter has been doing crazy stuff at a high level for so long.

• 1:08:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:56Speaker 04

  That he forgets how crazy some of the stuff he says is because it's just his day to day life. And I'm still new enough to this and I'm like rewind one more time, Teter. He's like, because he was kind of like, you know, he's just, and went on to talk about being in Asia. Like, Teter's just such a fun dude to talk to. He breezed through it kind of. And then I was like, yo, yo, rewind. You're talking about Sonic the Hedgehog three? He's like, yeah. I was like, and Jim Carrey's coming back? He's like, oh yeah, yeah. This is the best. I was like, this is huge.

• 1:09:21Bunnie XO?

  Huge.

• 1:09:21Speaker 04

  I was like, this is a really big deal, dude. He was like, yeah, yeah. You want to do it? I was like, yeah, Teter, for sure. I want to do it, bubba. And, uh, just want, you know, Teter's just a dude, man. He sent it straight over. We cut it on the middle of tour. Um, taking Noah to the premiere. I'm excited.

• 1:09:36Bunnie XO?

  So excited. Noah broke his first bone.

• 1:09:39Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:09:39Bunnie XO?

  Being playing with, oh yeah, I forgot to tell you guys.

• 1:09:42Speaker 04

  You should have seen his cast. He was, I went to eat with lunch with him at school today and he was like showing the cast of The Badger Man.

• 1:09:47Bunnie XO?

  Go ahead and tell them how he broke his bone.

• 1:09:50Speaker 04

  Oh, riding a four wheeler. He was coming down a hill. So a couple of weeks ago, we took him out, a couple of months ago, I took him out on a four wheeler for the first time. And we were coming down a hill and he slid a little bit and got scared and he bailed off the bike, off the four wheeler. And, uh, we talked about it then and he didn't have no problem getting right back on and riding. So I kind of thought he'd learned from it. So him and.

• 1:10:11Speaker 04

  And when this other little boy coming down this hill and Noah just got down the hill and kind of got scared and bailed a little bit and went up on the side of a embankment. So it flipped over and he went to catch it to try to push it off of him and it ended up fracturing his wrist. But I learned something about that little dude that day. He's so tough. He wouldn't let us know he was hurt because he didn't want to quit riding.

• 1:10:32Bunnie XO?

  Oh, what a kid.

• 1:10:34Speaker 04

  So I was like, no, I'm totally fine. He brushed it off. I was like, you sure? He's like, no, totally fine. Can I ride again? I was like, if you're fine. And he got right back on the road for hours and then went to dinner and went to sleep and then woke up the next morning it was swollen. So he went and got it. Do you want to talk about how cute this kid is?

• 1:10:50Bunnie XO?

  I know.

• 1:10:51Speaker 04

  He's got a really cool little blue cast. And today I'm like, uh, I'm like, what, did you tell somebody you got in a fight with a bear? And he was like, why would I when getting flipped off an ATV is way cooler. That's what he said. And then I said, I like your cast. I was like, I had one whenever I was a kid. I was riding my bike and I told him the story about how I broke my wrist as a kid on riding a bike. And I go, but we didn't get cool blue ones like that. He said, you know why I did blue? I said, why? He said, for Sonic.

• 1:11:16Bunnie XO?

  No. He's.

• 1:11:19Speaker 04

  Of course I signed it.

• 1:11:20Bunnie XO?

  Noah is the sweetest, like.

• 1:11:22Speaker 04

  I signed it D A D.

• 1:11:24Bunnie XO?

  I love that. I love that so much. Noah is the sweetest boy. Like he just, he loves, it's the funniest thing, or not funniest, let me rephrase that. It's the sweetest thing to watch. When he comes over to the house, he is so fascinated with Jay that he just watches him. Like everything he does. And he just wants, he is a daddy's boy. Like he is not a mama's boy. Sorry, Melissa. He is a daddy's boy. Like he follows him around, watches him and just wants to hang out with him. Like that's all he wants.

• 1:11:58Speaker 04

  He just wants to hang.

• 1:11:59Speaker 05

  Olivia loves Noah. She love bombs him when she's around him.

• 1:12:02Bunnie XO?

  I think they're gonna be girlfriend and boyfriend.

• 1:12:04Speaker 05

  He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And she's just like, love me.

• 1:12:06Bunnie XO?

  I love that. He reminds me, Noah reminds me so much of Jay's dad. He's literally like a little, just a little buddy.

• 1:12:17Speaker 04

  100%. He's just calm and collective about everything. Really bothers him. He gets excited, but not overly excited.

• 1:12:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:23Speaker 04

  But not overly sad, just kind of real down the middle.

• 1:12:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it just that's Buddy though.

• 1:12:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:12:28Bunnie XO?

  Buddy was always very just coast, you know, so I think he's just our little present from heaven. He's a doll and.

• 1:12:35Speaker 04

  I have never experienced innocence like him. Cause you think, man, you know, Bailey came up in a house with the trauma. I came up in a house similar. You came up in a house similar. I mean, you know, that that little boy grew up. In that little quiet part of America with his mama, same little group of friends from birth. I mean, she's, I give her credit, hat tip to her. She has raised that boy right.

• 1:12:57Bunnie XO?

  Melissa's done such a great.

• 1:12:58Speaker 04

  She has done such a great job with him, man. She is.

• 1:13:00Bunnie XO?

  We love Melissa. She's the baby mama. We love.

• 1:13:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, she is super mom. Um.

• 1:13:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:05Speaker 04

  And he's so put to do the Titan game the other day. I was so proud of him right before I got out of the car. I was like, hey buddy, cause you know, it's one thing I worry about with him sometimes. I was like, look people in the eye and just introduce yourself. And he jumped out and walked up to the first person he's seen. Hey, my name's Noah.

• 1:13:19Speaker 04

  To the point I had to be like, you don't have to introduce yourself to everybody.

• 1:13:28Bunnie XO?

  That's just proof of how he hangs on every word that his dad says. Like he just wants to make dad happy so bad that he's just like.

• 1:13:35Speaker 04

  He's killing. We watched the game. He's cool, man. But he's proud of his little, proud of his little.

• 1:13:38Bunnie XO?

  I can't wait to see it.

• 1:13:39Speaker 04

  Little wrist lock.

• 1:13:40Bunnie XO?

  Um, moving on from Noah, you have a song dropping with Snoop D O double G, baby.

• 1:13:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, dude, Snoop Doggy Dogg.

• 1:13:49Bunnie XO?

  The first time I got to hear it was at Bridgestone and I was really impressed. Like it's a good song.

• 1:13:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's, it's great song.

• 1:13:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:59Speaker 04

  So we did a Mary Jane's Last Dance, Tom Petty. Uh, they actually, the Petty Estate gave us the files. Us gave Dre, Dr. Dre the files. And Dr. Dre, uh, actually used Tom Petty's actual original vocal. And went and tuned up, uh, put it in there. Um, that beginning of Keep Moving On is actually the beginning of the original record. That's the original vocal take of that.

• 1:14:22Bunnie XO?

  Ah.

• 1:14:23Speaker 04

  So.

• 1:14:25Speaker 04

  Spoiler alert, the end of the video, the one me and Snoop are doing for it, has a clip of Tom Petty talking about, "I hope Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg do Mary Jane's Last Dance one day."

• 1:14:39Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 1:14:40Speaker 04

  "Hey Dre, that's gonna be a big ol' hit when you do it." Crazy. Tom Petty did it in an interview.

• 1:14:45Bunnie XO?

  When did he talk that? Like, was there an interview?

• 1:14:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:48Bunnie XO?

  He said that in?

• 1:14:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, he said in an interview and they showed the clip of the interview. It was crazy, man.

• 1:14:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:53Speaker 04

  It was really cool. So I want to start with the Snoop story a few places. One, I got to go record that with Dr. Dre. You remember when Dr. Dre and Jimmy Iovine FaceTiming on our back balcony? I was like, "I'm talking to Dr. Dre and Jimmy Iovine."

• 1:15:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:07Speaker 04

  And I opened up FaceTime and Jimmy Iovine's already on there and I'm like, it's a Skype or whatever, and I was like, "This is fucking Jimmy Iovine." And I was like, "This is crazy." And he's just being so casual. He's like, "Oh, I think Andre's coming now." And then Dre comes in, Dre's like, "What's up, big dog?" And then Dre goes, "So how do you want to go about working? Do you want me to just send it to you and you can work on it? Or do you want me to get somebody to put something together and you mess with that? Or do you want to come out here and write?" And when he said that, I was there, I just smiled, not even to myself, just clearly smiled. And I was just like, "Dre, do you think I was gonna take any option but writing with you?" You know what I'm saying? He was like, he just smiled. He was like, "Good choice, good choice." I was like, he's like, "Come to LA."

• 1:15:47Speaker 04

  And I went to LA, I pulled up to Dre's house by myself, walked in, I walked into the studio, rode it with Dre and his team. It was like, the kid in me was exploding. Now, keep in mind-

• 1:15:59Bunnie XO?

  And we've had to keep this a secret for months.

• 1:16:01Speaker 04

  Eight months.

• 1:16:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:03Speaker 04

  So this happened right after the Eminem song came out.

• 1:16:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, which that, we'll talk about that.

• 1:16:07Speaker 04

  Whole nother thing to talk about, which was insanely unreal. And the time I got to spend with him through all this process, just Marshall was just, wow. But I'm working with Dre in there, Snoop wasn't there that day, but I'm working with Dre. It's the greatest day ever. And I left, because when you do stuff like that, the reality of our business that people don't know is, you don't always make it, right? Like, and it's no hard feelings. Like, sometimes you come and you paint on something and they don't use it. It just, it's happened. I could, I could tell songs, "One day we'll do a podcast." Podcast of all the almosts in my career. Of like little cool things that were like that close to happening that didn't happen. You know, you leave and you're like, even if it's, I've still live in this world where I'm like, I'm one step closer. Like if this doesn't make the album, I'm okay. I'm one step closer. I met Dre. I went to his house.

• 1:16:50Speaker 04

  I believe that if you go somewhere, you can go again. I believe if you do something, you could do it twice. I just always have believed that. So it's like, I know that this will come back around, but I left there a little nervous. Like, I don't know if. First of all, Dre, whoa. That dude's ear.

• 1:17:06Speaker 04

  I've worked with so many producers, never nothing like this. I would do something, he'd be like, yo, a little sharp on the V. He'd be like, yo, you were a little sharp on this word, like flat here. Like he would, he would catch it in real time and. Coach you through it.

• 1:17:18Bunnie XO?

  That's a talent.

• 1:17:19Speaker 04

  A talent, but he also did it in this way of like.

• 1:17:23Speaker 04

  He knows he's Dr. Dre, so he has this way of making you feel like he's not Dr. Dre. Like he has this way of making you feel like he's just the homie trying to get a good take. You know what I mean? So like, he's like, he's like, ah, that was so close, a little flat right there, baby. One more time, one more time, big dog. Like he just like. Really got, he's like, it's crazy dude. It's like, it's so Dr. Dre.

• 1:17:44Speaker 04

  So getting to do the Snoop song, man, you know, and then Snoop coming to the Bridgestone and doing it, you probably, I don't know. Have y'all talked about Snoop?

• 1:17:50Bunnie XO?

  We did. We talked about Uncle Snoopy.

• 1:17:52Speaker 04

  About how great he is to everybody? Okay.

• 1:17:54Bunnie XO?

  And how the rings and everything, like he's just a great human.

• 1:17:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, just the sweetest dude ever, man.

• 1:18:00Bunnie XO?

  So sweet.

• 1:18:01Speaker 04

  Working with him, working with him.

• 1:18:02Bunnie XO?

  His whole team, his whole team is amazing.

• 1:18:05Speaker 04

  I had this, I had a moment. I was thinking about yesterday.

• 1:18:11Speaker 04

  I prayed for this. Like I prayed. Whenever I started having a success, like God. My heart is so for hip hop and always has been like, it's not my space anymore, but I would love to contribute. You know, I'd love to still be a part of that, you know, of any way I could be.

• 1:18:30Speaker 04

  And then the first year I got sent like a bunch of super gangster young rappers. I won't say their name, but like you remember like all the real like. You know what I mean? And I love their music. I listen to it in the gym, but it's like, it just wasn't my spirit. But then I kind of got more clear with God because God says, you gotta ask directly. I'm like, God, I need a conscious rapper. Like send me J. Cole or like Eminem or Joyner Lucas or something. Joyner Lucas sends a song. Eminem flips save me. Dr. Dre sends me a Snoop Dogg record.

• 1:18:57Speaker 04

  So then I pray.

• 1:19:00Speaker 04

  God, send me a Christian record then. Like, you know my faith and of course, belief is a, to me, is a Christian record, but it's a country record, right?

• 1:19:07Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:19:08Speaker 04

  Man, I got a call. You gotta believe this too. Have you told them?

• 1:19:12Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:19:12Speaker 04

  Cause I bet Mimi knows this, cause she's more on Tik, she's not more on TikTok than you, but her algorithm's wider. Have y'all heard that?

• 1:19:20Speaker 04

  I'm doing that song with that guy.

• 1:19:22Bunnie XO?

  With him?

• 1:19:23Speaker 04

  With him. That song. He sent, he sent the stems over today.

• 1:19:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. My husband, let me just tell you what my husband hit me with today. Okay. I'm laying in bed, just, my husband, it's the cutest thing now that he's home. He waits for me to wake up and then the minute I open my eyes, he comes in the room like a little boy on Christmas and just unloads his morning on me and I never want to change it. Like, I love it. It's the sweetest thing ever. Um, and in his unloading this morning, he was like, what if I'm being called to ministry? And I was like, okay, hold on. I was like, hold on a second here. I'm like, I married a fucking rapper, okay? I've dealt with you moving to country. I was like,

• 1:20:07Bunnie XO?

  please, Lord, if, and from country to whatever else, acting, whatever you want to do. But I asked you this years ago. I said, please, if you are going to become one of these huge pastors that preaches at mega churches, please let me get my affairs in order, okay? Because that is going to be a huge jump for me.

• 1:20:32Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 1:20:34Bunnie XO?

  I'll be like, I will be the real life Mary Magdalene at that point, you know, like, it's just crazy.

• 1:20:39Speaker 04

  No, no, no. I think we'll end up serving God to bigger purpose one day, but it's not now.

• 1:20:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:44Speaker 04

  Right now, we're a gateway to God. We're like a gateway drug to Christianity.

• 1:20:48Bunnie XO?

  I like that. I like that.

• 1:20:49Speaker 04

  You come to a Jelly Roll show, next thing you know, you're at like, you know, Nate Bargatze show.

• 1:20:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:56Speaker 04

  And next thing you know, you're at a Casting Crowns concert. You know what I'm saying? You never know, dude. It's like a gateway. You know what I mean?

• 1:21:03Bunnie XO?

  It's definitely a gateway for spirituality, which that's one thing, the reason why you resonate with people so much is you're not religious, you're spiritual. And that's huge. And people, you know, people who are, you know, hardcore Christians, no shame or disrespect towards you, but sometimes their approach is a little harsh.

• 1:21:23Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 1:21:23Bunnie XO?

  And with you, it's more of like how Dr. Dre coached you in the studio. That's how you are with people, getting them to see their faith and see that there's something more to believe in.

• 1:21:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, it just, to me, it even starts back to like the basic principles of like the 12 steps. Like, they immediately are like, we don't care what the higher power is, but you gotta get out of the ego narcissist of yourself.

• 1:21:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:47Speaker 04

  Like, you can't count on yourself to get you out of this hole. Like, you're gonna, you're gonna have to lean on something outside of your own understanding. This is a far back in time as it goes, you know, the Buddhists believing the, um, having the, the right mind, you know what I mean? Being able to see more clearly and being more in tune with their inner spirit. And you know what I mean? Like, because that doesn't, at the end of the day, man, I'm a, all right, I'm a dumb songwriter, right? You know, all that other, you know, I talk a good game, but at the end of the day, I'm a, I'm an idiot that, you know, writes melodies, right? You know what I mean?

• 1:22:18Bunnie XO?

  Very smart man.

• 1:22:19Speaker 04

  That's what I do. That's what I do. I'm a dumb songwriter. Don't listen to me.

• 1:22:24Bunnie XO?

  So let's talk about Eminem really quick. What was that like working with him? What was it like meeting him? Like, I haven't really got to hear you talk about the whole Eminem experience.

• 1:22:34Speaker 04

  It was a dream come true, man. I mean, I can, I can recite, I don't think I know more songs of anybody than I do of Garth Brooks, Eminem, and James Taylor, Jim Croce. I mean, I probably sing every song they ever wrote.

• 1:22:46Bunnie XO?

  Would you even incorporate James Taylor in the whole concert, Fire and Rain?

• 1:22:52Speaker 04

  For sure. That's how much James inspired me in every way. I got to tell him that at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame when I sung for Ozzy.

• 1:22:57Bunnie XO?

  I'm so fucking jealous.

• 1:22:58Speaker 04

  It was so awesome. Him and Kenny Chesney were in the same room together with Mac, Mac and Ally, and I just walked in there like a little kid.

• 1:23:05Bunnie XO?

  I love it.

• 1:23:05Speaker 04

  And I just left Dr. Dre's room. So I was already just like.

• 1:23:10Bunnie XO?

  Just a kid in a candy store.

• 1:23:11Speaker 04

  I think I was skipping, you know what I'm saying? I had my little arms flailing. And I was having a ball. So, um.

• 1:23:19Speaker 04

  I seen something on my calendar the other day that I don't even know if it's real, but it's, um, I don't, I don't want to say it because it might get canceled from me.

• 1:23:27Bunnie XO?

  You can say it, but just we can bleep it.

• 1:23:29Speaker 04

  The, the day we play Michigan, they have a scheduled meeting with me.

• 1:23:36Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:23:38Speaker 04

  And if I get to meet, that will be the final check of like my dream in life to meet the dude that inspired me.

• 1:23:46Bunnie XO?

  He loves.

• 1:23:48Speaker 04

  But meeting Eminem was like meeting him, you know, it's like meeting Garth, like meeting James Taylor for me. It was that big of a deal, you know? Uh, I love the meme that got famous that said Eminem got me through my childhood, Jada Rose getting me through my adulthood. Cause like Eminem got me through my childhood. And then the irony that to some degree saved me would impact him enough that he would create art to it. So to some degree, maybe I helped him in his adulthood in this weird way of the universal music circle. You know what I mean? I always arrogantly felt like me and him were going to connect. I always felt like there was.

• 1:24:22Bunnie XO?

  Manifesting.

• 1:24:22Speaker 04

  Yeah. I felt like there was too much me, too much him in me for him not to see eventually. You know, like similar stories with our addictive, uh, addictive past, similar personality stories of getting custody of our children, uh, having to go through all this stuff kind of publicly with our children, our, our daughter, you know what I mean? Like that, that there's so many little parallels there of like, you know, like ultimately just trashy kids, you know, just white trash kids. Like it was just so many, and it was everything I thought it'd be, dude. It connected in that way. He's, first of all, he's funny. He's like funny, funny. Um, and Paul Rosenberg is the real hero in this. You were talking about how, we

• 1:25:04Speaker 04

  know how we spent 20 minutes talking about how great Dana White is? That's Paul Rosenberg in the music business.

• 1:25:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:09Speaker 04

  Paul Rosenberg is Dana White. He's like, what can I do to help you? You know, cause dude, when you've had the biggest artist of this century, pretty much, you're just in a place, you don't want to help people. You know what I'm saying? You know, that's, that's who Paul is.

• 1:25:21Bunnie XO?

  That's so funny because in all of, um, Eminem's records, he's just shitting on Paul. That's like his thing.

• 1:25:28Speaker 04

  It's his thing.

• 1:25:29Bunnie XO?

  That's, I think that's his way of saying, I love you.

• 1:25:31Speaker 04

  It's his way of telling Paul he loves him.

• 1:25:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:32Speaker 04

  And him and Paul are as thick as thieves, dude.

• 1:25:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:35Speaker 04

  Him and Paul, I, I. I hope me and John live long enough to have that kind of kinship. You can just tell it's 20 something years of managing each other and day to day, just being best friends in the foxhole and figuring it out.

• 1:25:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:48Speaker 04

  You know, it's just awesome, man. Paul's also old school management, man.

• 1:25:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:53Speaker 04

  You know, just great dudes. Working with them was, it was awesome. Uh, we'll do, talk about the Aussie thing while we're here though. I didn't talk about this. That was, besides SummerSlam, it was in the top coolest moments of the year too.

• 1:26:05Bunnie XO?

  First of all, SummerSlam still has me in a chokehold, literally, because you pulled that off so seamlessly. Like, I even had my wrestler, wrestling friends texting me like, dude, what the fuck? Are you gonna become a wrestler too?

• 1:26:19Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:26:20Bunnie XO?

  Oh my.

• 1:26:21Speaker 04

  Holler at me. Side quest, side quest WWE, Neil Lowry, that's my boy, man. Uh, Triple H, call me, I'm getting in shape. Y'all think I'm getting in shape not to become a wrestler? This is craziness. No, for sure.

• 1:26:33Bunnie XO?

  I would like to see you in a little sling thing.

• 1:26:36Speaker 04

  I have a dream. John Cena is doing his farewell tour for the next year. And in the next year, I want to get in shape enough to do a tag team match and he'll be my tag team partner.

• 1:26:46Bunnie XO?

  That'd be awesome.

• 1:26:48Speaker 04

  Just like on some just random childhood, scratch it stuff. Like, imagine me getting to do, be John Cena's tag team partner. You know what I mean? Or maybe me and the Miz can do a tag team match. I want the Miz to coach me.

• 1:26:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:00Speaker 04

  If I, if I really do do it, I would, I would go move in with the Miz for a few months.

• 1:27:04Bunnie XO?

  I love that. I love that. I think it'd be great, amazing.

• 1:27:08Speaker 04

  True story.

• 1:27:09Bunnie XO?

  I'd listen, I don't put anything past you. If you say you want it to happen, it's, and you want it to happen bad enough, it's gonna fucking happen.

• 1:27:15Speaker 04

  Dude, Jelly Roll, John Cena, Jelly Roll, John Cena, the Miz, R-Truth or something, that'd be so cool.

• 1:27:20Bunnie XO?

  I don't think people realize that you've been manifesting so much, even in, when you were rapping back in the day, like, your songs, you manifested like A Woman Like Me, you manifested. Grammy nominations, you've manifested.

• 1:27:34Speaker 04

  We got two more this year, baby.

• 1:27:35Bunnie XO?

  Two more this year.

• 1:27:36Speaker 04

  We're going back again. We're back. We've made it twice.

• 1:27:40Bunnie XO?

  What does that feel like, though? Like, I know you get, probably get asked this question all the time, but as your wife getting to see this journey so up close and personal to just being like a little boy in your room, saying that you want, or you know, even a teenager rapping and sleeping in your car, you know, did you always know that you were gonna get Grammy nominations? Is that just another way that you manifest?

• 1:28:01Speaker 04

  I don't know. I remember singing songs about, I don't know if I'll ever be nominated for a Grammy, because you know, like, you're just like manifesting that kind of idea that you would even be in those conversations.

• 1:28:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:13Speaker 04

  I remember leaving the Grammys this year thinking about that big pun line, "In Miami, almost came home with the Grammy. Next year, bringing home three for the family." You know what I'm saying? I was like, that's how I left this Grammy feeling anyways, was like, I'm coming back next year, we're gonna win.

• 1:28:29Speaker 04

  There's nothing in the music biz, there's no title that means more in our business than being a Grammy award winner. The only title that means less than that, but still holds a lot of weight is being a Grammy nominated musician. That's how big the word Grammy is when it comes in our business, that it's, it, I've won CMA New Artist of the Year, I've won AC, I've won CMAs, ACMs, and CMTs. I've won the big three in country music. I've won People's Choice. I've, I've won triple plays for having three number ones in a year I wrote. I mean, I've, I've won things that I never, I just got Touchtunes Artist of the Year. I was the Artist of the Year.

• 1:29:11Bunnie XO?

  For like, for bars?

• 1:29:13Speaker 04

  Boom. Yeah, for bars. The Touchtunes, the new group.

• 1:29:16Bunnie XO?

  Are people depressed?

• 1:29:17Speaker 04

  You don't worry about what happens in a bar, okay? You don't worry about me.

• 1:29:21Bunnie XO?

  If I'm in a bar and they put on Jelly Roll.

• 1:29:23Speaker 04

  How do you know they're not banging halfway to hell?

• 1:29:25Bunnie XO?

  All right, baby, okay.

• 1:29:26Speaker 04

  How do you know they're not banging, you judgmental motherfucker?

• 1:29:29Bunnie XO?

  We listen and we don't judge.

• 1:29:31Speaker 04

  You don't try to take my little shine away from me. I won an award and you were like, what a group of sad people to listen to you.

• 1:29:36Bunnie XO?

  Listen, I'm the only one, listen, I'm the only person that can get away with saying that to you.

• 1:29:43Speaker 04

  But, all of those, think about all those accolades and accomplishments, platinum albums, plat, things I never. Ever thought could be possible. In the moment you're nominated for a Grammy, all of that stuff gets pushed to the side and you're introduced as Grammy nominated. That's how much the Grammys. You know what I mean is that? All those other things that you could list, you know what I mean? All of that gets swallowed by just being nominated. The Recording Academy considering you swallows every other one of those accolades in an introductory setting. Like the fastest way to explain to somebody what I am. If you were trying to explain it to somebody is he's a Grammy nominated singer.

• 1:30:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, they never list the other ones.

• 1:30:29Speaker 04

  And they would immediately be like, okay, this dude can sing or something. He does something good enough to recording. So yeah, man, you want to win one, dude. I want to win one really, really, really bad.

• 1:30:39Bunnie XO?

  You will win one.

• 1:30:41Speaker 04

  That's the dream.

• 1:30:42Bunnie XO?

  You will.

• 1:30:42Speaker 04

  I would love to win one. I'm not okay he's nominated. It would mean a lot if it won. Because the subject matter of the song like Save Me last year when me and Laney were nominated for the country event of the year. We lost to Zack and Casey, which was right. I mean, they had a huge record, but it would admit so much to have had Save Me work because, you know, it's such a cathartic song. It's not like, not like a pop song. It's not like a dancing kind of a, you know, like, it's just like real shit. Like, first of all, I'll take a Grammy any way they want to give it to me. Any Grammy you want to give me, I'll accept. But if I could get it with something cathartic, it means that much more.

• 1:31:20Bunnie XO?

  Just because that's part of your healing journey that you're on, so.

• 1:31:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's just part of, well, I'm healing and helping people heal and music just heals people anyway. Like, I say this every night to the point of redundancy, but I believe it like I believe in my faith. That music truly is, you know, there's a record I'm listening to right now to learn to do, but.

• 1:31:47Speaker 04

  Man, that record is doing more for me. If I don't cut this song, I don't care. Because I'm just doing so much for me, listening to it every day.

• 1:31:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I've never seen you have to, I don't want to say, use the word struggle because I don't know, I don't think you're struggling. But I've never, everything comes so seamlessly and effortlessly to you that you're actually having to work for this one.

• 1:32:06Speaker 04

  Well, no, you know what it is? You've never seen me in there with my lunch pail.

• 1:32:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:10Speaker 04

  The studio's one place you've never really frequented much, even when it's at our house. So you don't see that, but I struggle a lot. That is actually way more common than, that is the place where I struggle the most.

• 1:32:20Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 1:32:20Speaker 04

  You know why? Because I believe in getting it right, so I'll take my time.

• 1:32:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:25Speaker 04

  And I'll change the key of it two or three times and I'll, I'll go through all these processes. Cause I learned a lot. This is inside baseball. I, I would have done Son of a Sinner in a different key.

• 1:32:36Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 1:32:36Speaker 04

  Had I know what I know about music now. Like how, if I knew how my voice sat over the drop D chords and like, had I just had a better understanding of that on the guitar at the time, I would have totally, I'd have sung it probably like G or something more even, something I really could have vocally excelled on. You know what I mean? But I'm learning that. I didn't know, you know, I'm just now learning the guitar still. I'm still learning the guitar at the pace of a snail.

• 1:33:00Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:33:01Speaker 04

  I'm learning at the pace of a slug with salt on it.

• 1:33:03Bunnie XO?

  Well, you know how to play Lonely Roads.

• 1:33:05Speaker 05

  That was a funny take.

• 1:33:06Speaker 04

  Didn't you like that?

• 1:33:07Bunnie XO?

  I asked for a serenade and fucking, I got Lonely Roads.

• 1:33:10Speaker 04

  One, two, three, Lonely Road.

• 1:33:14Bunnie XO?

  I feel like we have adopted Kels as our little brother. He's like the uncle.

• 1:33:18Speaker 04

  I love him, man. I love that dude so much, man. He's just, I don't know, man. He's such a misunderstood guy.

• 1:33:26Bunnie XO?

  But yeah, Kels, I feel like is our adopted uncle that is just, he's the sweetest storm.

• 1:33:35Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. He's a, he's healing too, man. He's got a lot of healing to do and he's working on it. Just watching the progress he's made in the last year.

• 1:33:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:45Speaker 04

  For me has been really cool. Like I see leaps and bounds just from the dude I talked to at the Grammys earlier this year.

• 1:33:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:51Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? Or the dude that I was on FaceTime with for multiple hours all last year. You know what I mean? So. He's um.

• 1:33:58Bunnie XO?

  I think you've been a really good influence on him also. I think, um, I think I've said this numerous times, but I think you guys both needed each other. I think he needed someone to help guide him and figure out his shit. And then you needed somebody to kind of like.

• 1:34:13Speaker 04

  I need somebody who understood me too.

• 1:34:14Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:34:15Speaker 04

  Like I'm, I'm relatively misunderstood in my business. Not in the work. What I love about this is because of you and you letting people into our living room, like I'm not misunderstood on social media because they get a full context of our family and who we are as humans. But like in our business, I'm pretty misunderstood because I don't really have a lot in common with a lot of these people.

• 1:34:35Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:34:36Speaker 04

  And I don't mean that in a mean way, like, but the friendships I have, I had to work really hard to build in this business, or they were just supernatural. But for the most part, I'm surrounded by people that don't really understand me.

• 1:34:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:46Speaker 04

  You know?

• 1:34:47Bunnie XO?

  Well, you're different.

• 1:34:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, I came from a different place. Kels came from the same place. You know what I mean? It's like, uh, it, it hits a little different whenever I get to talk to him because, you know, he went through some of the stuff I had to go through early, he went through, especially whenever he switched from hip hop to making the kind of that pop punk.

• 1:35:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:05Speaker 04

  So that was, that was really cool.

• 1:35:07Bunnie XO?

  Let me talk about your birthday.

• 1:35:09Speaker 04

  Best birthday ever.

• 1:35:10Bunnie XO?

  Big four O, baby.

• 1:35:11Speaker 04

  Fawdy.

• 1:35:12Bunnie XO?

  Fawdy Wada.

• 1:35:16Bunnie XO?

  Get out of, get out of my studio.

• 1:35:20Bunnie XO?

  Tell me about it. Like, so.

• 1:35:23Speaker 04

  Did y'all surprise me with the roast of Jelly Roll?

• 1:35:26Bunnie XO?

  Hold on, let's tell the truth here. Kels.

• 1:35:29Speaker 04

  Kels surprised me. Well, you set the surprise up and Kels ruined it.

• 1:35:32Bunnie XO?

  Kels fucking, Kels ruined it. I called him and I was like, you are so fired, dude. I said, first of all, it is so hard to keep something away from my husband because we're just so close that we just tell each other everything and we're the worst at surprising each other with anything. And I, we finally made it to like, up to like the day before his birthday, he had no, right, day before, he had no idea, everything was fine. Like we were, it was going off about a hitch and Kels fucking calls him and is like, so they're doing a roast for your birthday.

• 1:36:06Bunnie XO?

  And then my husband calls me, he's like, so I know you guys are doing a roast. And I'm like, how do you, and he tried to do it so calmly and like, just put it in there. And I'm like talking to him and I'm like, yeah, so yeah, wait, how do you know we're doing a roast? Like, what are you like, who fucking told you? But yes. 12 celebrities, one Don and cold hard cash from the producers of Traitors comes The Mob, a new Hulu original series now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus. And this unique new reality competition show hosted by the iconic Parker Posey. What up, girl? 12 celebrity contestants are about to become members of a powerful family for two weeks in a lavish Italian villa. They'll shake down and hustle to win a share of up to $250,000.

• 1:36:50Bunnie XO?

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• 1:38:21Bunnie XO?

  You ended up getting a roast for your birthday.

• 1:38:23Speaker 04

  It was so awesome.

• 1:38:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:26Speaker 04

  I was, um. One, I was so overwhelmed with who all y'all got to show up for me. Like, when I pulled up there and I knew you were doing a roast, I was like. So the easiest way to say this is. Burt Kreischer, Mark Norman, Jay Okerson, Whitney Cummings, Tony Hinchcliffe, Adam Ray are all at this roast.

• 1:38:52Bunnie XO?

  Busting with the boys.

• 1:38:53Speaker 04

  For sure. But I'm talking about, I'm starting with just the comedian.

• 1:38:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:38:57Speaker 04

  If you would have got any one of those six comedians to come, I would have been blown away. Like, it would have blew my mind that Tony Hinchcliffe flew out for my birthday on the middle of the week. Like, it would have blew my mind that Burt came from Los Angeles, California to Nashville, Tennessee on a Wednesday to tell jokes about me for my birthday. Then I show up and all six of them are there. Like, I walk into the room and I see Burt, I'm like, holy fuck, Burt. And then in that moment, it hits me, I was like, and I look over Burt's shoulder and I think I seen Chris Porter. And I was like, Zach Myers, and I was like. And then I looked to the left and I seen Whitney Cummings, and that was crazy, because you know how much I love Whitney and how much you love Whitney. And I don't have a relationship with Whitney.

• 1:39:42Speaker 04

  You do, which is even cooler. Whitney just like.

• 1:39:44Bunnie XO?

  Fresh. Grace introduced us.

• 1:39:46Speaker 04

  Even cooler. Like, the fact Whitney would show up just on some, like, I know who these people are. I know they're good people, you know? And then I see Tony Hinchcliffe and I was like, there's no fucking way. And like, just for perspective, Whitney Cummings, let me finish this and explain it like this way, but then I, I hear Burt go, "I'll wait till you see what Mark Norman's got." And I was like, Mark fucking Norman's here? He's like, "Oh, yeah." And then Jay Okerson walks in and I'm like, dude, you know how much I love Legion of Skanks, one of my favorite podcasts, like, these are like, these are my friends, but also the stuff that I actually consume. Like, this is the stuff I listen to, like.

• 1:40:27Bunnie XO?

  But you also go out of your way, like, you go to Skank Fest every year. Like, you are a huge comedian fan.

• 1:40:32Speaker 04

  For sure. I'm a huge fan of the, yeah, I show up, I love the stuff. It's, it's what I love.

• 1:40:39Speaker 04

  So I'm looking, I'm like, this is crazy. And then of course, I see way Taylor and Will, the Bussin' with the Boys are there. And I'm like, yo, this John Crist is here. And I'm just looking, I'm like, Big David Lucas walks in, I'm like, what the fuck is going on right now? Like, these are like, and I was telling you this, because I'm sure you knew it when you did it by design, you and John Maniglia and John Craig, but you couldn't have picked the, like, you picked the, the roasters, like Whitney's a roaster.

• 1:41:05Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no, I know.

• 1:41:06Speaker 04

  Tony's a roaster.

• 1:41:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:07Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? Like David Lucas is a roaster.

• 1:41:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's what they do.

• 1:41:11Speaker 04

  These are, that, these dudes coming, they're, they're, they're gonna spray shit.

• 1:41:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:15Speaker 04

  This is real. You know what I mean? It's like, I was just blown away, man. And then that, that's just what was happening on the stage.

• 1:41:21Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:41:22Speaker 04

  Who showed up out there? And I love that nobody knows who showed up, because there's no proof of it.

• 1:41:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:28Speaker 04

  There was no phones?

• 1:41:29Bunnie XO?

  Yes, that was the highlight of the night for us, too.

• 1:41:32Speaker 04

  Truly, was that it didn't turn into a big meet and greet, or, you know what I mean? Like, even with internally, like, we actually partied and hung out all night.

• 1:41:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:42Speaker 04

  The roast was awesome. You know what else was great about it? It wasn't too long. Sometimes those things are too long.

• 1:41:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:47Speaker 04

  It wasn't too redundant. It was perfectly timed out. Everybody had a great moment. I, I cried laughing in a way I haven't laughed ever, probably.

• 1:41:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:56Speaker 04

  Um, and then we went out to Kid Rock's bar and sung, and then we went, broke into my bar and checked it out. You know what I mean?

• 1:42:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:05Speaker 04

  Hoping I get in trouble for that. But, um, you know, it's just, that's, that's where we ended up at. It was just, it truly was the coolest thing ever, man. I couldn't thank y'all enough. I was blown away by just who all showed up, how cool everybody was, just.

• 1:42:21Bunnie XO?

  Baby, everybody loves you. And John Maniglia and Jonathan really did a lot for that.

• 1:42:25Speaker 04

  Dude, I mean, I'm telling you, dude, Titan players. I mean, it was like-

• 1:42:28Speaker 05

  Josh Adam Myers opening it.

• 1:42:29Speaker 04

  Josh Adam Myers, the goddamn comedy jam, starting it?

• 1:42:32Bunnie XO?

  Bro.

• 1:42:33Speaker 04

  With the, what did Jelly Roll do when he was young, you song, talking, and he listed every bad thing I could have done?

• 1:42:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:39Speaker 04

  And blamed me for every crisis in American history?

• 1:42:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:42Speaker 04

  It was so awesome. I was like- And you know, even his band, like touring with them dudes and getting to see them and like.

• 1:42:51Bunnie XO?

  And I miss them on tour.

• 1:42:52Speaker 04

  I do too, man. Their energy was so pure. I gotta bring Josh back out. I was gonna do Canada, but it just wasn't in the budget. Yeah, dude, it was cool. It was the best night ever, man. I genuinely was just, in every way I could be blown away, man.

• 1:43:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:03Speaker 04

  It was so cool. Only regret I have is I didn't get to say hi to everybody.

• 1:43:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, but I mean, you deserve to have a night where you don't have to say hi to anybody and just be there for you.

• 1:43:12Speaker 04

  And I'm glad that everybody was cool with that, because I was a little worried about that. And I'd called John finally, because, you know, me and you had talked, I had called Bunny specifically. And said, hey, baby, I love you, but I don't want to do a birthday party for my 40th. I don't like birthday parties at all. I don't dig them. I don't, I just don't like them. I don't, because it becomes, it's a me thing. And it's like, I live in a me world. Like, I already have to fight that of like, everything being about us. Like, when we went to our niece's wedding, I went there with one goal, to only take a picture with my niece.

• 1:43:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:41Speaker 04

  Not because I didn't want to take a picture with everybody, but I didn't want anything about her big day to be about anything but her.

• 1:43:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:46Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? It's like, I just always want to be conscious of that. So I didn't want to have a big me fest for my birthday. But, uh, it was the best me fest ever. It was the best me fest ever. It was so cool.

• 1:43:56Bunnie XO?

  It was a me fest how you needed it.

• 1:44:00Speaker 04

  It was also funny because me and Tony are, me and Bert are really frie-, me and Bert are really, really friends.

• 1:44:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:07Speaker 04

  Me and Tony are really, really friends. Me and Adam are like, me and Tony have got so close. I mean, that is my boy, boy.

• 1:44:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:14Speaker 04

  You know, and we've had some of the coolest moments with each other, where we would just be dicking around and say, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this, like manifesting wild, dreamy scenarios to each other down in a bar in a comedy club.

• 1:44:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:26Speaker 04

  And they've come true.

• 1:44:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:28Speaker 04

  When Tony's like, I'm gonna do a arena. And I'm like, dude, when you do an arena, I'll come sing the National Anthem. He's like, alright. He does his first arena, I show up and sing the fucking National Anthem. Like, you know, it's been so cool to see these kind of moments. And one night we were drinking and Tony said, your next big birthday, I'm gonna roast you. And he did it.

• 1:44:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:49Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? And this was pre arena Kill Tony. You know what I'm saying? And like, he didn't, back to, I'm sorry, I keep talking about it, but

• 1:44:57Bunnie XO?

  No, you're fine.

• 1:44:58Speaker 04

  You had multiple arena acts in there on a Wednesday night that flew commercial to tell jokes for me. Multiple theater acts, like real deal, full blown, two, three, 5,000 person theaters everywhere in America, multiple nights in a row. Whitney's huge. Adam Ray's, Adam Ray's Dr. Philly's huge. Like, just looking at who all was there. Just from that perspective, I was like, if we did, if you had to pay these people their rate, this is a $5 million stage.

• 1:45:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Now, and they all showed up because they love you, baby. And you give, you give to them too. And they, it's, it, it goes back to what we said about like, the, the UFC thing. Uh, the comedians are the same fucking way. They are literally like, they're, they're brash, they're tacky, they're rude on stage, but in real life, they're loyal, they're loving, and they love you. And that's why they showed up, baby.

• 1:45:54Speaker 04

  They, uh,

• 1:45:57Speaker 04

  I'm so blessed that in the middle of the country music explosion and the comedy explosion, I got to thread both needles in that.

• 1:46:04Bunnie XO?

  Bringing worlds together.

• 1:46:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, man. And it's, I truly have more comedian friends than I do musicians. That's the truth.

• 1:46:10Bunnie XO?

  No, yeah, you really do. I don't, you don't really hang out with too many, like musicians, like

• 1:46:15Speaker 04

  The boys.

• 1:46:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:16Speaker 04

  Cody and the boys.

• 1:46:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:46:17Speaker 04

  My, my little crew, I got my little

• 1:46:18Bunnie XO?

  Which Cody just won his first award.

• 1:46:20Speaker 04

  Cody got his album of the year, dude.

• 1:46:22Bunnie XO?

  Bro.

• 1:46:22Speaker 04

  I love that clip. Do y'all have that clip? When I jump, it's the aerial view, so you won't see it. It's from a fan. But you watched me explode out of my seat like I won to rush and tell Cody.

• 1:46:33Bunnie XO?

  I know.

• 1:46:33Speaker 04

  And I was waiting on to hug his wife like a little kid, like, all right, now hug me, now hug me, I'm excited.

• 1:46:37Bunnie XO?

  I know, I told Brandy, I told Brandy, I was like, trying to like, hold you back from stealing their moment because you were so excited for him, from him. It was the cutest thing ever.

• 1:46:45Speaker 04

  I was so excited for him, man. He deserved that though, man. He's been right there on the list of it, like 10 times.

• 1:46:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:53Speaker 04

  And just He deserved it, man. He deserved that so much, dude. And I love that album. And you know, the other thing I said in my, I said this in my post about it. I'm like, oh, I'm just, I'm like, I gotta wait my turn.

• 1:47:06Bunnie XO?

  Randy, you're cool and I'll get the fuck out of my way.

• 1:47:08Speaker 04

  Oh, look at him. I was so happy for him, dude. I love that dude, man.

• 1:47:12Bunnie XO?

  I feel like if you can't go to award shows and be happy for other people, then why are you even there?

• 1:47:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, dude, it's just like, also, Cody's my boy. Like, he deserved that. That album's fire.

• 1:47:23Bunnie XO?

  Randy are so sweet.

• 1:47:26Speaker 04

  I was the only feature on the original version of Leather. Carrie's the only one on the full album now, me and her. So dude, it's like, you know, and that was a win for all of us. Do This With The Chicken? What's that about?

• 1:47:40Speaker 05

  He wants me to do this with one of my chickens and I am. I've got a rooster at home.

• 1:47:45Bunnie XO?

  You guys know his attention span is of a squirrel. So if you give him an opportunity to get lost, he's gonna get lost.

• 1:47:52Speaker 04

  Did you do something with the chicken?

• 1:47:54Speaker 05

  I'm gonna put my chicken on my phone and I'm gonna make a TikTok.

• 1:47:59Speaker 04

  That's cool.

• 1:48:01Bunnie XO?

  That's how they sext. That's how they, that's sexy.

• 1:48:07Speaker 04

  I'm gonna send my work wife a content idea.

• 1:48:12Speaker 04

  Why was that chicken blue? That chicken was Pepsi Blue.

• 1:48:17Speaker 05

  No, it's the light behind. It's an orb.

• 1:48:21Speaker 04

  Okay. All right, never mind. I was like, that chicken was, that chicken, yeah, that's a big problem.

• 1:48:25Speaker 05

  It's a small chicken.

• 1:48:27Bunnie XO?

  Okay, everything about that just looks crazy. What if it shits on you while you're doing it?

• 1:48:32Speaker 04

  Hey, man, chickens be shitting.

• 1:48:33Speaker 05

  I bring them in the house a lot more often than you guys would realize.

• 1:48:37Speaker 04

  Sing them on a chicken. Who's going chicken hunting?

• 1:48:40Bunnie XO?

  We going chicken hunting.

• 1:48:41Speaker 04

  Who's going chicken hunting?

• 1:48:42Bunnie XO?

  We's going chicken hunting.

• 1:48:45Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:48:46Speaker 04

  Oh, boo, Haley. I see pee.

• 1:48:50Bunnie XO?

  This girl.

• 1:48:51Speaker 04

  Get down with the clowns.

• 1:48:52Bunnie XO?

  Listen, I use this as an example all the time. She didn't even know who Stevie Nicks was until she got with our crew, so. I did. I didn't know. Fleetwood Mac. Yeah.

• 1:49:00Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:49:01Bunnie XO?

  I there's. A little worse. I still introduce her to so many, so much different music. It's crazy. Seeger was the dad on Full House, so.

• 1:49:09Speaker 04

  All right, we'll wrap it up here.

• 1:49:10Bunnie XO?

  All right.

• 1:49:11Speaker 04

  Well, that's Bob Saget, by the way, not Seeger.

• 1:49:14Bunnie XO?

  Which rest in peace, Bob.

• 1:49:16Speaker 04

  Was the dad on Rest in Peace, Bob Saget, by the way, who was a comedian on Full House.

• 1:49:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:21Speaker 04

  Not to be mistaken for Bob Seeger, the famous rocker from the seventies.

• 1:49:26Bunnie XO?

  Daddy, I love you.

• 1:49:27Speaker 04

  I love you.

• 1:49:27Bunnie XO?

  Thank you for coming by the podcast.

• 1:49:29Speaker 04

  Well, thank you for having me on Dumb Blonde Plus Two.

• 1:49:31Bunnie XO?

  Oh, you'll be, you will be here in the night, probably, next time I see you, it'll probably be another fucking three years.

• 1:49:37Speaker 04

  You know, I'll try to squeeze you in.

• 1:49:39Bunnie XO?

  Oh, you know, I hope you do. I hope you do. I love you so much. Thank you.

• 1:49:44Speaker 04

  I'm glad I came and did this.

• 1:49:45Bunnie XO?

  Thank you.

• 1:49:45Speaker 04

  Love you, baby.

• 1:49:46Bunnie XO?

  Love you. Sign out for us.

• 1:49:48Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Till next week. Is that how you do it? I forgot.

• 1:49:53Bunnie XO?

  Thanks for listening to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I'll see you guys next week.

• 1:49:58Speaker 04

  Thanks for listening to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I'll see you guys next week.

• 1:50:02Bunnie XO?

  Bye. Nope, do it, do it.