Hollywood Undead: The Masks Came Off

This week Bunnie sits down with Johnny 3 Tears and Charlie Scene from Hollywood Undead for a raw, unfiltered conversation. The guys look back on their early days—from first concerts and parental influence to the chaos of addiction and life-changing lessons. They open up about the band’s struggles, including Deuce’s dramatic exit and legal fallout, and how those hurdles shaped their journey. Despite the setbacks, Hollywood Undead has kept its brotherhood intact, now rolling strong with J-Dog, Funny Man, Johnny 3 Tears, Charlie Scene, and Danny. They dive into the band’s evolution, swapping personal stories, reflecting on the authenticity of their earliest music, and debating the challenges of living up to past hits like Undead. The episode also teases what’s next: a September tour with Falling in Reverse, studio time with producer Tyler Smith, and even a possible dip into country music—because if there’s one thing this band thrives on, it’s breaking boundaries. Hollywood Undead: Website https://www.hollywoodundead.com Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com

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• 2:10Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on?

• 2:14Bunnie XO?

  What's up you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, I have some of my west coast boys in the house, baby. Johnny Three Terrace, Charlie Sheen from Hollywood Undead.

• 2:25Speaker 04

  Sheen or Sheen.

• 2:27Bunnie XO?

  Charlie Sheen. Charlie Sheen. I wish, you know, I love Charlie Sheen though too.

• 2:31Speaker 05

  He gets them mixed up too.

• 2:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm so sorry. It was the, it was the shh that I had on it.

• 2:35Speaker 04

  You know what's weird is by chance, we have the same birthday, September 3rd, me and Charlie Sheen. And he tweeted me on our birthday and he said, "Happy birthday to us."

• 2:43Bunnie XO?

  How fucking iconic is that?

• 2:45Speaker 04

  Insane.

• 2:46Bunnie XO?

  That he even knows who you are?

• 2:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 2:48Bunnie XO?

  Oh my God, I love that so much. So you're a Virgo?

• 2:51Speaker 04

  I'm a Virgo.

• 2:52Bunnie XO?

  Are you a ladies man?

• 2:53Speaker 04

  Um, no.

• 2:55Speaker 05

  Man's man.

• 2:55Bunnie XO?

  I don't believe it. I don't believe it. My dad was September 4th and he loved vagina. Like he literally, you could not get that man away from women to save his life. I feel like Virgo men just love women. He's like, no. He's like, maybe in another life.

• 3:12Speaker 05

  He loves his wife vagina.

• 3:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:14Speaker 05

  Like more than most men who are married that long.

• 3:16Bunnie XO?

  Oh, how long have you guys been married?

• 3:19Speaker 04

  Uh, for, since 2013, 12 years?

• 3:23Bunnie XO?

  Oh, that's a long time. I love that you still love her vagina.

• 3:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:27Bunnie XO?

  Cause most men need variety. Do you need variety?

• 3:29Speaker 05

  No, no, I've been married a long time as well and one vagina.

• 3:33Bunnie XO?

  I love that. I love that you guys have like this rowdy reputation and yet you guys are just like...

• 3:38Speaker 05

  Well, that's why we're so rowdy. We're, one vagina pisses you off, you gotta go like smash other stuff.

• 3:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you just gotta go and break shit on stage.

• 3:46Speaker 05

  The rest of the world's like a wrestling ring to us.

• 3:48Bunnie XO?

  So take me back to this conversation we were just having about the vapes.

• 3:53Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, well, yeah, so the vaping, cause it messes my vocal cords up and, you know, I mean, it's obviously not good. And I did the hypnotist thing. I actually went to the hypnotist for other things to try and be less crazy and like some other, cause they'd say they can do anything.

• 4:06Bunnie XO?

  Was this recent?

• 4:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's been over the course of like a year. I've been going.

• 4:10Bunnie XO?

  So you, okay, so the reason why this even got brought up, let me just bring you guys in the circle of trust here is because Charlie wanted to vape. And I was just like, no, this is a no vaping zone, but you can go outside and vape, but whatever. And I was telling them that vaping is bad for you. And then that's when you told me that you went to the hypnotist.

• 4:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, so I was trying to quit.

• 4:27Bunnie XO?

  So did they like put you on, did it really work? Do you feel like you really got put under?

• 4:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, so I've gone like 10 times. I went for other things first, like for anxiety. You can go for anything.

• 4:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 4:38Speaker 05

  People go in there for all PTSD, all kinds of stuff. Um, so I went just to see what it was like because I wanted, uh, just to see if it worked.

• 4:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 4:45Speaker 05

  Just got curious by nature. And so we were doing other things and yeah, I would say it works. Like you kind of go and then it's not like the TV shows though, or the movies where like you like, you're and they do in the clock thing. None of that stuff happens. You feel like you fell asleep though, is what I would say. And you feel like it's almost like when you take a nap and you're not sure if you did.

• 5:06Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God.

• 5:06Speaker 05

  Did I fall asleep? You have to almost say, was I asleep?

• 5:08Bunnie XO?

  That would give me anxiety.

• 5:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, but you're not, you're not sure if you fell asleep. Um.

• 5:14Bunnie XO?

  I'd be like, did you touch me inappropriately? Like, you know, because you don't even know what's happening. Like, did we, did we just get naked?

• 5:19Speaker 05

  Scottish guy too, so I'd be like, dude. But yeah, so I did it and it didn't work, like the, the vaping thing. But he also told me, he's like, do you really want to stop vaping? And I was like, no. He's like, well, it's probably not going to work. Like you have to really, you still have to like want to do those things.

• 5:33Speaker 04

  Most people see it's a one time thing. That's what I've always heard. Like you go in and then you leave and you don't want to smoke anymore.

• 5:38Speaker 05

  That, that, that I, that was not my experience. I, I quit for that day. And by the end of the day I was at, I put all my vapes in water, like so I could, you know, to, yeah.

• 5:48Bunnie XO?

  Really trying to stop.

• 5:49Speaker 05

  I was at 7-Eleven by the end of that day. Yeah, it was true. Yeah, guzzling the juices.

• 5:53Bunnie XO?

  Is it, is it your only vice though? Cause I mean, coming from the lifestyle that you guys used to live, if you're, if all you're doing is vaping, I mean, it's like fucking have your fun.

• 6:01Speaker 05

  Sometimes, sometimes it's one of many.

• 6:03Speaker 04

  Johnny has one of the most addictive personalities you'll ever find.

• 6:06Speaker 05

  I have four vapes on me.

• 6:08Speaker 04

  Johnny, four vapes, we call him.

• 6:10Bunnie XO?

  That's some sort of your childhood though. So I grew, I grew up on you guys, but I never knew your entire lore. I knew kind of like the drama around the band and stuff like that. Cause of course, you know, being from Vegas and Cali, we heard about all the shit that went down.

• 6:23Speaker 05

  Run around out there too.

• 6:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, for sure. Um, but I never got to like really get into you guys' lore. And I actually got to like really deep dive you guys and you guys have really fascinating stories. Like, I think it's really interesting and I want to dive into that. But first I have a very serious question I want to ask you. Do you really have a weenie that you like to show?

• 6:41Speaker 04

  No.

• 6:43Speaker 05

  He did though.

• 6:44Bunnie XO?

  Did you use to flap it around all the time?

• 6:47Speaker 04

  Well, just like in front of my friends, I had this trick.

• 6:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:50Speaker 04

  I had this trick where if you take a knife, but you don't, you use the, the flat side, not the sharp side, and you put your D on a cutting board and then you say, hey, guys, look at this. And you smoosh the knife, like not the sharp side onto your D. It looks like it's halfway through your penis. So it looks like you're chopping your dick off. So I do that as a gag.

• 7:09Bunnie XO?

  Do we have a cutting board here? I gotta see this. Like, this is amazing.

• 7:14Speaker 04

  But then I got a girlfriend, so I couldn't be showing my dick around.

• 7:16Speaker 05

  It's terrifying looking on first sight too, cause it's shot. But I, so he wouldn't do that, but I would. So I took, he, he'd come up with these great things and then I would just do them, use his material. And we'd be on like the tour bus, there'd be people be on there and I would do it and people were like, ah.

• 7:32Speaker 04

  He'll be in front of strangers and shit.

• 7:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't mind as much.

• 7:35Bunnie XO?

  How did you figure this out? Did somebody teach you?

• 7:38Speaker 05

  That's a good question.

• 7:38Bunnie XO?

  Did somebody teach you this trick? Is it like a generational thing, like passed down in the family?

• 7:43Speaker 04

  I think I just saw a knife and I was like, oh, I bet you could cut your dick, but with the dull side, it won't go through. I gotta show the guys this. One time for my birthday, I had him light his dick on fire.

• 7:53Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God. Tell me about this story. I gotta hear this story. Okay, the dicks are out. I'm loving this. This is my kind of party.

• 8:00Speaker 04

  I had a party, there was probably like 50 people. There was like George, I had some lighter fluid. I was like, let me put this lighter fluid on your dick and you just run out into the crowd and be like, ah, my dick's on fire. So he's like, okay, fine. He's all fucked up.

• 8:12Bunnie XO?

  Okay, how did he talk you into that? Is what I want to know?

• 8:15Speaker 05

  That was it.

• 8:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, it took very little convincing.

• 8:19Speaker 05

  I'm game.

• 8:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 8:20Bunnie XO?

  Did it burn your wiener off?

• 8:22Speaker 05

  No, no, cause no, it was on my pants. I wasn't like on my.

• 8:25Bunnie XO?

  Okay, okay.

• 8:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 8:27Bunnie XO?

  I thought we were like running around with socks on.

• 8:31Speaker 05

  Well, okay, so it was open. My pants were open.

• 8:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:33Speaker 05

  I didn't have any pubes after.

• 8:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:35Speaker 05

  So it was like a free waxing.

• 8:37Bunnie XO?

  Did they ever grow back?

• 8:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, unfortunately.

• 8:40Bunnie XO?

  Just like patchy.

• 8:41Speaker 05

  That was the one downside as they grew back.

• 8:42Bunnie XO?

  Oh, just all patchy, looking like a Calico cat down there.

• 8:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, it doesn't look, yeah. It's bad looking.

• 8:47Bunnie XO?

  That is hilarious. You guys seem like you guys have such a cool camaraderie with you guys with there being so many of you in the band. Cause I know in the beginning, there was like seven of you, right?

• 8:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 8:57Bunnie XO?

  And then now it's down to five.

• 8:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 8:59Bunnie XO?

  Is that, I know back in the day, you guys had your drama, but now that you guys are older and more, you know, evolved, how is it with you guys now, the five of you?

• 9:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, I would say, I mean, being in a, now that you're, we're a little older and probably, you know, it's easier now. We get along a lot better than, we've always gotten along. The good thing about, we've been friends since I'm, some of us since preschool, like really, really young. Um, some of us known each other since like before we can, three, four years old.

• 9:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 9:26Speaker 05

  Um, so that helped us get through a lot of the harder times. You know, being in a band is, is, as anybody who's been in the band has a lot of ups and downs. It's very trying at different times. And we've been a band for 20 years and there's been ups, been downs and everything in between. So it's a lot like a marriage. And when you're going through those things, it can test those relationships. I mean, you hear about bands who were best friends and then they're suing each other.

• 9:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 9:48Speaker 05

  And these things going on. We've never gotten in any of those situations. You know, relationships can kind of suffer under those circumstances, but we've gone through most of them because of the, the friendships we had prior to those things. You know, some things don't make it through that. Sometimes people just change and things change and that's unfortunate. But if we didn't have the basis of, I think, friendship prior to that with what we've been through with, we've been, you know, we've been on four labels. We've been sued, sued back. We've been on five, six, seven management groups. Everything that you can, you've heard of that a band can go through with the music industry.

• 10:21Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:22Speaker 05

  We've been through.

• 10:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, we're gonna talk about that too.

• 10:24Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, everything you can imagine that can go wrong has gone wrong.

• 10:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. But you guys are still standing, which is like such a testament to you guys just individually and together.

• 10:34Speaker 04

  Well, we get along better now than we ever did. Like I'd say, like in the past five years, like we're all like best friends. We all hang out like, you know, and yeah, we all get along very well.

• 10:43Bunnie XO?

  You could hear that in the music too, because you guys have grown so much and the music has evolved. But before we jump into that, I want to, you guys to take me back to your childhoods and growing up. Where did you guys grow up and how did you guys meet?

• 10:55Speaker 05

  Um, I grew up in Glassell Park by like Dodger Stadium, Northeast LA. And then, uh, I grew up with, uh, Jay, who's in the band. And then Deuce, who used to be in the band. We grew up in the same area, um, in Northeast Los Angeles. Um, and we kind of, I, those are the two guys. We used to go to the same preschool and stuff like that.

• 11:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 11:15Speaker 05

  Our parents would drive us to school and stuff.

• 11:17Bunnie XO?

  That's insane.

• 11:18Speaker 05

  I know. Yeah, it is kind of wild to think about like his, Jay's mom used to, they would like take turns driving us to school. We go, went to school, um, on Los Feliz in Hollywood. And that was back when it was like east, east Hollywood, kind of ghetto area. And it was a long time ago now. It's kind of weird to think about because it's like, it doesn't even look like it used to. It's weird when I go back there now, it's like, uh, one of the reasons I left LA in general is because growing up there, we, it was like our neighborhood, Hollywood in general, that whole area was kind of ours. And towards the end, it, there was so many more people there. And I suppose this is probably how Nashville feels to people who lived here for a long time. Is, um, like I felt like an outsider, there was far more of them than us.

• 11:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 11:57Speaker 05

  And so I was like, well, I might as well just go. And then him and Funny.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Yeah. I grew up in a town called Shadow Hills, which is around Burbank area in LA. Um, it's like kind of like a horse town. I had horses growing up, like, um, and then, yeah, the first guy I met in the band was Jarrell, uh, J-Dog. Cause our parents worked together, we were probably like 12. I met Funny Man playing basketball. We actually had a mutual friend. You ready for a name drop?

• 12:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 12:23Speaker 04

  Shia LaBeouf.

• 12:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I have that in my notes here.

• 12:26Speaker 04

  Alright.

• 12:26Bunnie XO?

  Like how ironic.

• 12:28Speaker 04

  I've dropped it many a times, obviously, from the internet.

• 12:30Bunnie XO?

  You've told the story on other podcasts, okay? But no, that, I think, I think that's still awesome though, you know? Like that, like what a fucking piece of lore to grow up with that crazy nutcase.

• 12:40Speaker 04

  Oh my God. Yeah. He was always crazy as shit.

• 12:42Bunnie XO?

  Was he always crazy?

• 12:43Speaker 05

  That's what's nice to know though, that it's authentic.

• 12:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's real.

• 12:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 12:46Speaker 05

  Appreciate that.

• 12:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, absolutely. 100%. And to, to stem off of what you said a second ago, I grew up in Vegas. Every time I go back to Vegas or Cali.

• 12:54Speaker 05

  That's another place, I'm sure.

• 12:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Every time I go back to Vegas or Cali, I'm like, this is not the same city that we grew up in. Like it's just, it's, I, I swear it's so commercial now and it's like lost at sparkle.

• 13:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, it really, do we, we're recording right now in Glassell Park, which used to be like, I'm not even kidding, like a no go zone. The cops wouldn't go there.

• 13:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 13:11Speaker 05

  It was so bad. Um, they, the cops wouldn't, the helicopters wouldn't go over. Cause the, there was a gang there that had like bazookas and anti aircraft stuff. It was like in the nineties. It was insane.

• 13:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 13:22Speaker 05

  And they, they, there's, the gangs are all still there, but the guy we're, who's producing us now lives there and we're, and I'm like, he doesn't get it.

• 13:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 13:31Speaker 05

  A, it's still rough, it's bad, but this guy who's like a little white dude lives in what used to be like the, one of the worst neighborhoods in LA and he doesn't know that. And that's how different it is, is like this dude lives there where, you know, back in the day, you couldn't walk through there.

• 13:44Bunnie XO?

  Unless you grew up in that whole scene, you don't get it. Nobody understands.

• 13:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, the nineties LA was, it was just a different world. And I mean, I, maybe there's certain things that are better about it, but I almost prefer like the gangsters over the hipsters.

• 13:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 13:58Speaker 05

  At least it was like.

• 13:58Bunnie XO?

  At least they had more balls.

• 14:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, and they were more, it was like, I don't know, they had better.

• 14:03Bunnie XO?

  I feel like the hipsters.

• 14:04Speaker 05

  Something to offer.

• 14:04Bunnie XO?

  I feel like the hipsters lost their balls in their skinny jeans, you know, like they, they've got camel toes.

• 14:09Speaker 05

  They just, then they just complain all the time and the real estate's all, you know, they, they.

• 14:13Bunnie XO?

  It's gentrified, that's what they call it. It's like totally gentrified.

• 14:16Speaker 05

  Totally, yeah.

• 14:17Bunnie XO?

  For sure.

• 14:17Speaker 05

  I know.

• 14:18Bunnie XO?

  So how did you two meet?

• 14:19Speaker 04

  Um, I met him through my older brother, I guess. I don't know how you met Jesse. Do you remember?

• 14:24Speaker 05

  We, we got in a fight, we were wrestling.

• 14:27Bunnie XO?

  Was it a real fight?

• 14:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 14:28Bunnie XO?

  Was it a real fight?

• 14:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, he called me Goldilocks because I had long hair and then I called him Sonic the Hedgehog because he had like spiky hair.

• 14:35Speaker 04

  So you guys fought?

• 14:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, we fought, but it wasn't like a mean fight. It was a fight to see like a male dominance, but not trying to hurt the others to see who was stronger.

• 14:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 14:44Speaker 05

  And then we just became buddies.

• 14:45Bunnie XO?

  Figure out shit back in the day. Like we used to fight and then you would be friends after that.

• 14:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, you know, it really was like that. We were too old for that, but we still, that's how it happened.

• 14:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's what happens. If there's no girls at a party, then you just fight and wrestle.

• 14:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 14:58Bunnie XO?

  It's all that testosterone, you guys gotta get rid of it somehow.

• 15:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, we just became buddies and then we just started hanging out all the time and then.

• 15:03Speaker 04

  Well, no, the, yeah, the way I met you was I came home from playing basketball and he was on the driveway with my older brother. He's like, hey, this is my friend George. But he got so drunk that night, my mom bought El Pollo Loco and he was trying to eat it, but he was so drunk. It fell on the floor and he tried to pick it up. So he just like fell and was eating beans like laying down on the floor. I was like, Jesse, this is the biggest piece of shit I've ever fucking met in my life.

• 15:25Speaker 05

  And I didn't eat the beans off the floor, I was pretending to eat the beans off the floor.

• 15:27Bunnie XO?

  Can we have a moment of silence for the creamy cilantro sauce with El Pollo Loco?

• 15:31Speaker 04

  God, that was so good.

• 15:32Speaker 05

  El Pollo Loco and Del Taco.

• 15:34Bunnie XO?

  Del Taco fire. No, the previous Elantra is still there. You just gotta pay extra for it now. Like back in the day, they used to give you fucking loads of it.

• 15:40Speaker 05

  Right.

• 15:40Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so let's talk about mom and the mommy stuff that's going on. What was going on in your household?

• 15:46Speaker 05

  Oh, well, you know, I didn't have a good, you know, the upbringing stuff wasn't good. I just had a lot of resentment and stuff.

• 15:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Was she a single mom?

• 15:55Speaker 05

  No, my parents are kind of nuts, you know, and as I've gotten older, I guess I I've learned to separate something, you know, we're all human beings and stuff.

• 16:05Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 16:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, and just a lot of resentment and it was a very, very bad environment. And I ended up, you know, I got in a lot of trouble when I was young. I ended up in juvie and stuff like that.

• 16:14Bunnie XO?

  Cause you were acting out. Yeah, you got your first felony at 15?

• 16:18Speaker 05

  Mm hmm. Yeah, I got a burglary charge. Well, I ended up graduating high school. I went to Central and this place called Challenger Camp. It's in the Antelope Valley, which is where I ended up going to, like I had to go to, because you have to go to school if you're in jail when you're still a minor. So I ended up going there and I was there until I was 18 and I got taken out. So it was all, you know, it was juvie. It was nothing that, well, it's not good, but it wasn't bad. But my whole childhood was kind of, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't good.

• 16:43Bunnie XO?

  You were acting out because you needed love and attention, though.

• 16:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't like to say that because it sounds lame.

• 16:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, but you know.

• 16:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, I was very angry and stuff.

• 16:52Bunnie XO?

  Of course, but you deserve love and attention as a child.

• 16:55Speaker 05

  I didn't have any place to go when I was little and, you know, I was living in people's houses and, you know, so you, when you're all the things that I probably needed when I was young, at that point, I think I was like 18 years old. Um, I had got that, that I was sad when I was young. I was just depressed about it.

• 17:12Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 17:12Speaker 05

  When I became old enough, then I was just angry about it. And, you know, I went through a period of like, yeah, probably a lot of aggression. Now, you know, getting in fights and all that stuff was all just an extension of trying that repressed stuff coming out. Um, and same with like, you know, drinking and drugs, all that stuff. You start kind of sorting out that all of that stuff is an expression of coming from the same well sort of thing. And it took me a long time to figure it out, even though you might know it, it takes a long time to kind of actually realize it.

• 17:41Bunnie XO?

  It takes, yeah, it takes, I've always told everybody, I wish we could be born with the wisdom we have now, because God, wouldn't life be so much fucking easier if we just knew everything was going on?

• 17:51Speaker 05

  Even someone telling you, knowing, hearing something is different than knowing it. You know what I mean? Someone could tell you a million things, but you have to kind of realize it for yourself. So, you know, and as I've gotten older and I have three kids of my own and stuff, you start to realize that, you know, other people are human and a lot of them are fucked up and a lot of fucked up people have kids of their own.

• 18:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, pass on generational trauma.

• 18:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, and so, you know, you're, my role now is to kind of, you know, to arrest those things and, you know, steer a different course. And I'm very actively participating and making sure those things don't, you know, go the same way.

• 18:21Bunnie XO?

  You're breaking those generational curses.

• 18:23Speaker 05

  That's all you can do, you know?

• 18:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. It's, I think, I think a lot of that trauma stops with us because our parents back in the day, those motherfuckers do not care. They don't want to hear anything about therapy. They don't want help. They are like set in their ways with being how they were, that generation that raised us. And I feel like a lot of us have learned from our parents' mistakes and we're like, we don't want to be like them.

• 18:43Speaker 05

  Totally.

• 18:44Bunnie XO?

  In the end, it just, they're not happy and they're hurt and they're, they literally were just bleeding on people who didn't cut them.

• 18:49Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 18:50Bunnie XO?

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• 19:57Speaker 06

  Attention all new and existing members of the W D N C. I'm Melanie Sanders and this is the We Do Not Care Club Podcast. We got to midlife and realized we just simply do not care much anymore. Now, we gotta help each other make sense of hot flashes, dry coochie, chin hair, trifling families, brain fog, and bat wings. We are not alone and we will be heard. So come join the W D N C. Follow and listen to the We Do Not Care Club Podcast with Melanie Sanders wherever you get your podcasts.

• 20:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, it is true. And you know, that's the terrible thing is that, you know, people, the children typically pay the price for

• 20:33Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely, yeah.

• 20:34Speaker 05

  You know, their unfulfilled dreams or whatever it is they're unhappy about. And it's really unfortunate because the worst thing in the world is seeing a kid in pain. I don't care who you are. I don't care whose kid it is, seeing a kid that's a sad child. It's just terrible and it breaks my heart to think about it. So, you know, if you, if you, any adult with their own problems, they really, it is really is their responsibility to sort through those things out without bringing their, their own children into it. Cause it's just, you're setting up that kid up for a lifetime of their own pain. And then another kid up for a lifetime or whomever that person marries or that person becomes connected to

• 21:08Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 21:09Speaker 05

  is going to suffer all because you're unhappy with yourself.

• 21:12Bunnie XO?

  And you know, that, that, that generational trauma, it's, it's a handful. Yeah, no, it's a lot. How was your childhood?

• 21:20Speaker 04

  Um, mine was pretty good.

• 21:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 21:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, it was, it was good.

• 21:24Speaker 05

  He has the coolest mom.

• 21:25Bunnie XO?

  Oh, we love cool moms. Cause I didn't have a cool mom. So shout out to the cool moms out there.

• 21:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, my house was always the party house. She let everyone go there and crash and yeah, she was awesome.

• 21:36Bunnie XO?

  So she gave you guys like a safe space?

• 21:37Speaker 04

  Totally, yep. She allowed me to talk shit to her all the time. She told us to keep it down and I'd say, shut up bitch, go to bed. If you're like, damn, you talk to your mom like that? That's my fucking maid, she's annoying. She liked it though. It's like, ah, get shut up.

• 21:54Speaker 05

  She got a kick out of it.

• 21:55Bunnie XO?

  I love that, that's so awesome.

• 21:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, so she always, and she, they were cool. They never forced me to go to college. My dad was a, he wanted to be an actor.

• 22:02Bunnie XO?

  He said they were cool, they never forced me to go to college.

• 22:04Speaker 04

  No, they didn't give a shit. They were like, do music, act if you want. Like they, they're all about the arts. So they just supported all the decisions I made with music and all that stuff, so.

• 22:13Bunnie XO?

  I love that, that's amazing.

• 22:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, and George moved in with us too. He lived with, yeah.

• 22:18Bunnie XO?

  George, I love this. This is awesome.

• 22:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, his parents are the best.

• 22:23Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 22:23Bunnie XO?

  I love parents like that. That's how my best friend Tasha is and I literally moved them out here to Nashville to be with me. Cause I grew, I left home at 14 and ended up moving in the trailer park with her and her mom. And, you know, you didn't, you never forget friends like that. Like you never forget people who were there for you in your lowest fucking time.

• 22:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:39Bunnie XO?

  So you guys have a pretty special bond.

• 22:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, 100%.

• 22:42Bunnie XO?

  So after you moved in with him, with them, is this when you guys started forming the band or how did that, that work out?

• 22:48Speaker 04

  It was around that time.

• 22:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, we, we, cause we, we were in bands together and separate. He was in a band called Upright Radio. We were in a band called Three Tears. I was another. We were like off and on doing bands and then we, we, so we like were in bands together and separate for like years.

• 23:03Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 23:03Speaker 05

  So we would live together and then we, you know, we'd hang out and stuff. And then Hollywood Undead kind of formed from like pieces of other bands.

• 23:09Bunnie XO?

  Why did you guys not just out of the gates, start a band together? Was it just kind of like you guys wanted to have?

• 23:14Speaker 05

  We did and then we would just go, that wouldn't work out and we'd go do another band. He did another band. I would do, I stopped doing bands. You said, you know, when you're young in a band, it's a pain in the ass. Cause it's like, you know, so we would, bands would break up and he would do it. So everybody was kind of doing their own thing and then we kind of formed Hollywood Undead from like pieces of everybody's thing. And that was, I think really, uh, like more of a, like a last ditch, like the, one of the reasons Hollywood and Dead, I think is so, um, different, differentiated from everything we did. And we had kind of all done bands. We're like, we're, you know, I love the Deftones. I wanted to be in a band like the Deftones. Everybody had those, those models. Hollywood and Dead was really like, let's just do whatever the fuck we want. Cause nothing we had done worked. Like when you're trying to,

• 23:57Speaker 05

  oh, be in a band like this, or I want to be in a rock band. We, it really was like, let's just make whatever the fuck we want. That's what Hollywood and Dead was. And ironically, when we stopped caring about whatever, you know, the rules were, was when it actually worked out. So it was kind of born from all the broken piece of, pieces of other things of bands from all of us prior.

• 24:16Bunnie XO?

  Experience. You guys got to go your separate ways, experience life and then come together and put all those pieces together like a puzzle piece. How did you guys come up with your names? Have you always been Charlie Sean?

• 24:27Speaker 04

  Oh, no, no, no.

• 24:29Bunnie XO?

  I need to hear some of the OG names.

• 24:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, shit. Well, Charlie Sean, like I, I never expected this band to blow up like it did.

• 24:37Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 24:37Speaker 04

  So we, we were like.

• 24:38Speaker 05

  You'd end up something cool like Blade or some shit.

• 24:43Speaker 04

  Exactly. Um, no. So it was just like on a whim. Like we were seen kids back then.

• 24:48Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 24:48Speaker 04

  Been rapping about seen kids. So I was like, oh, Charlie seen. And then here we we are 20 years later too. We just had our 20 year anniversary from the date we put our music on MySpace.

• 24:57Bunnie XO?

  That's insane.

• 24:58Speaker 04

  I was seven years old. Now I'm 27. It's crazy shit.

• 25:02Speaker 05

  Put that on Wikipedia.

• 25:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:03Bunnie XO?

  How did you come up with Johnny Three Tears?

• 25:06Speaker 05

  Name of the first band I was in was Three Tears. So I always called myself Johnny Three Tears way before Hollywood and the Dead. So when we did monikers, that was it just, that was that.

• 25:15Speaker 04

  And you called yourself Johnny back then?

• 25:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, Johnny. I always thought Johnny Johnny can go ahead of anything.

• 25:20Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 25:20Speaker 05

  You know what I mean? Johnny, any, anything. So Three Tears was the name of the band I was in since I was like 17, 18 years old. So I just put Johnny in front of it.

• 25:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:29Speaker 05

  You know, so that was the whole, the whole deal with that. Um, the mon- and when we did masks, we were like, well, we got to do monikers and stuff. And that was all just at that point, you know, um, the names, because with the masks, you want to, if you're, it would be lame to have masks and be like, I am George. You know what I mean? So it's kind of like, you know, it kind of fit the whole.

• 25:49Bunnie XO?

  But you're a good looking guy. So I'm sure that if you even had a, you know, put a mask on and called yourself George, girls were still gonna go crazy.

• 25:57Speaker 05

  I wish that was true.

• 25:59Bunnie XO?

  You're married. So obviously you're doing just fine.

• 26:02Speaker 05

  Dude, I had to get the first one that went for it. I was like, you want to get married, babe?

• 26:07Bunnie XO?

  You tricked her.

• 26:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, the first night I met her.

• 26:10Bunnie XO?

  I love that. How did you guys decide on your masks? Like, I, because you guys each have one catered to like your personality, correct?

• 26:16Speaker 05

  Yeah. We got lucky. This dude, his name's Jerry Constantine. I always shout this dude out because he's like, he's awesome. He's one like, I think, he won an Academy Award for doing makeup on like Winston Churchill makeup, but he, pretty much any movie you've seen with like crazy monsters in it. This guy makes them.

• 26:31Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 26:32Speaker 05

  Like all the famous horror movies that you, that aren't CGI now, because most of them are.

• 26:37Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 26:37Speaker 05

  But like The Thing and all these things, he builds these monsters. And so we got in touch with him way back when we first started. And he made them like, so we went in and kind of told them what we wanted. You know, I mean, the butterflies and the three and stuff. And he made them out of, you know, clay with his hands and designed them by hand. So we got to work with this dude who's like a genius. And he's made like, you know, some of the most famous monsters that, you know, you, anybody's seen from these movies and. And he did it from start to finish with us.

• 27:05Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 27:06Speaker 05

  Gary Constantine.

• 27:06Speaker 04

  I never did a mask back then. I did a Del Taco bag originally because Del Taco is fucking fire.

• 27:11Bunnie XO?

  I love you. I love him.

• 27:14Speaker 05

  We're doing all these cool masks. Like, I'll just do the bag.

• 27:16Speaker 04

  I'll do a Del Taco bag.

• 27:17Bunnie XO?

  You set yourself apart, right?

• 27:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 27:19Bunnie XO?

  I love it. Okay, so how long did the bag last?

• 27:22Speaker 04

  The bag lasted until we signed our record deal. They're like, you can't do a Del Taco bag. I was like, fuck.

• 27:28Bunnie XO?

  Unless they pay you, right?

• 27:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, or yeah.

• 27:31Speaker 05

  Free tacos.

• 27:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, I just wanted free fucking soft tacos.

• 27:34Bunnie XO?

  Do the double Del cheeseburger all day long?

• 27:36Speaker 04

  Oh, it's so good.

• 27:37Bunnie XO?

  All day long.

• 27:37Speaker 04

  Um, so they wanted me to like change the design on it and shit, but it just looked dumb. I was like, ah, defeats the purpose just wearing a bag on my head that says Charlie. Uh, so I was like, I'll just do a bandana, you know? I always like cowboy movies and shit, you know, the Outlaws with the bandana and it's just easy as fuck to put off and on.

• 27:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:52Speaker 04

  Because the back was annoying.

• 27:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:53Speaker 04

  You can't drink beer through it. Like, it gets soggy and starts falling through your fucking dick shit.

• 27:57Bunnie XO?

  That's like the paper straws. I hate those. Yeah, that's the worst.

• 28:00Speaker 04

  We turned it up. So I was like, you know what? I'm gonna do a bandana.

• 28:02Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love that. It's crazy sitting here with you guys and like getting to feel your energy now because you guys look so intimidating, like on stage or like even if you guys like just listen to your record and don't even know who you guys are. You guys have such alpha, you know, personas, but sitting here, you guys are like, just like sweet little babies.

• 28:18Speaker 05

  What the fuck?

• 28:18Bunnie XO?

  I love that. I love that.

• 28:20Speaker 05

  Wait till you see me vape, dude. Wait till you see me vaping, bro.

• 28:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:25Bunnie XO?

  I love it. I love it. Um, so we have something in common. Your first concert that you went to was Stone Temple Pilots.

• 28:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:33Bunnie XO?

  Mine too.

• 28:33Speaker 04

  Really?

• 28:34Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 28:34Speaker 04

  Oh, shit.

• 28:35Bunnie XO?

  I was like, I don't share that lore with too many other people, but like Scott, uh, is it Wyland? Scott Wyland was on stage. And we got to see one song. Somebody threw a fucking bottle and it hit him in the head and he fucking lost his shit on stage and then walked off.

• 28:51Speaker 05

  Damn.

• 28:51Bunnie XO?

  That was my first concert.

• 28:53Speaker 04

  That was the first song they, that happened that he left?

• 28:55Bunnie XO?

  Yep, and he left.

• 28:56Speaker 05

  Was this like pre the heroin days or like?

• 28:58Bunnie XO?

  Uh, it might've been in the middle of it.

• 29:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:00Bunnie XO?

  I'm not sure. This was in the nineties, so.

• 29:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, I feel like he was always on that.

• 29:04Speaker 05

  Did I saw a video of him playing acoustic with one of the De La Lo brothers or whatever? And he's like, kind of, yeah, in the park. He's like, almost like chubby.

• 29:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, you could tell that's pre.

• 29:12Speaker 05

  Like it really did make me sad because obviously towards the end he looked like the skeleton.

• 29:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:18Speaker 05

  He's such a talented dude, but he looked so like young and healthy and it's weird because it was such a brief window where he looked like real healthy and normal. He just looked like a normal dude. And then later he looked so torn up and stuff, but he was such a dialogue because I'm a big STP fan too.

• 29:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:33Speaker 05

  Just a sad story.

• 29:34Bunnie XO?

  Same. Yeah. No, it's, it's so sad. The Alice in Chains, all that like, those were like, I feel like we don't have any like rock stars like that anymore.

• 29:43Speaker 05

  No, and with that pain and those, that music especially.

• 29:46Speaker 04

  The real deal. He had like a really rough life too. He was like raped as a kid and shit.

• 29:50Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 29:51Speaker 04

  All the drugs, crazy.

• 29:53Bunnie XO?

  Well, that explains a lot of, you know, why he was acting out like that.

• 29:56Speaker 05

  Totally. Yeah. Well, like we were talking about earlier, it all comes out in the end.

• 29:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. So you had talked about how you were involved in drugs. When did your drug addiction start?

• 30:06Speaker 05

  Right when I had enough money to do them consistently.

• 30:08Bunnie XO?

  Okay. So was this after Hollywood Undead or during or before?

• 30:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, I started doing like, all call was like, when I was 13 is when I really started drinking, like right when I stopped found. I knew I was in trouble when I started drinking because it wasn't like, ooh, this is fun. It was like, to me, like, it was a like, oh, I can, like, I found something that was gonna like, gonna get me through life. You know what I mean?

• 30:28Bunnie XO?

  Like an outlet.

• 30:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, it was a bad relationship right from the get go. So I tried, when I started, I did coke, you know, a couple of times when I was like a teenager, like just from other people. And so I would do that periodically. And then when we got signed and stuff like that and we got money, then I started buying it and you know, because you, once you, coke is obviously not, it's an expensive drug by comparison to some. And then, yeah, it just escalated and you know, I started doing coke.

• 30:54Speaker 04

  And yeah, then on tour where it's like so easy to get.

• 30:57Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah. It used to be everywhere. Cocaine used to be, and we didn't have to worry about fentanyl. So we'd be, I'd be doing bumps off the back of fucking dirty bathroom stalls at a dive bar.

• 31:06Speaker 05

  Yeah. Coke's trouble. So I mean, I remember like when I started doing coke, I could buy like an eight ball and it would be like, it would last me like a weekend or something. And then it would be like, okay. And then it was like an eight ball and it would last Friday. And it was like, I wouldn't even leave the house anymore. And it really catches up with you. And it, you know, causes you no end of trade, it just escalates and escalates and escalates. And you know, the, the losses that you incur doing this stuff of, you know, I won't even get into that stuff. But yeah, it's really bad. And I always thought, you know, we, we talk about those things in our songs and always make sure that people understand it's in a negative light. Cause coke is, you know, weed, drink and all that stuff. It's a good time. It could, I would never tell someone that cocaine is something that you should do recreationally. It's not fun.

• 31:49Speaker 05

  It always ends in a dark, dangerous, horrible place. That, that stuff has caused me no end of pain and trouble. And other people that I know trouble and stuff and

• 31:58Bunnie XO?

  I get it. I was so, I was so coked out one night. I tried to smoke it like it was crack.

• 32:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:03Bunnie XO?

  You know, like it, that it's a very deep, dark hole that you go down whenever you are partying, fucking, you know, and I used to date like the biggest drug dealer. So I got eight balls of cocaine for 80 bucks, you know? So I was just fucking, you know, and I'm in the strip club. Just, it was bad, bad scene, but I get it. And I totally understand what you're saying. I do think that it's important for people to hear the struggles that you've gone through because, you know, they, they look at you like as role models, you know? And they're like, these people have come from the depths of hell and they're out here busting their ass, you know, on tour, performing, but before all, before they've gotten to where they are now, there was this time in their life. You know what I'm saying? So.

• 32:40Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, the years and years and years of it. I'm like, I've only cleaned up my act in the past few years. I mean, it was gradual too. Like I wasn't going insane. Like there was probably 10 to 15 years where it was just like all hell broke loose. But then my wife left me and like, you know, things like got real bad.

• 32:57Bunnie XO?

  But that's good. We love a woman that's has boundaries too.

• 32:59Speaker 05

  No, in every, she had every right to, and it was the right thing to do. Cause that was actually the only thing that kind of like made me like, holy shit, you can't act. There are consequences and stuff to these things. Um, but you will lose everything in pursuit of these things. There's no doubt. Eventually, um, it's really just about what you, whether you're lucky enough to hit rock bottom before you're dead. Because one of those two things is going to happen. You're either going to get, you're going to die or you're going to hit a rock bottom enough to turn you around before that happens.

• 33:27Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 33:27Speaker 05

  And it's like a 50 50 shot that one or the other is going to happen. Something bad enough is going to happen to make you go, okay, I'm never going to do this again. And it will stick. Or you're gonna be dead, because those are really the two outcomes typically.

• 33:37Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 33:38Speaker 05

  You know, your wife or your family leaves, or you have an overdose that, you know, will make you, that will scare you enough. Or you'll skate along with these smaller losses until you're homeless or something, God knows what, but. Yeah, i- it's devastating stuff and anybody who's seen it knows, like, you know. You know, people end up selling their own shit, other people's shit.

• 33:58Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:59Speaker 05

  The cost is very high, but we have, we do have a lot of young fans. One thing that really makes me happy is we do meet and greets and stuff like most bands and. From what I, we talk to them and I have never, the number of kids that don't do drugs and don't drink. Now it has skyrocketed in compared, when I was young, every kid drank and did drugs.

• 34:18Bunnie XO?

  Same.

• 34:19Speaker 05

  That was ninety percent.

• 34:19Bunnie XO?

  That was our era.

• 34:20Speaker 05

  Yeah. It's not popular anymore. It isn't, it isn't like, like it's very normal to meet a twenty year old and be like, oh, I've never even had a drink.

• 34:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 34:28Speaker 05

  That was like, that would blow my mind when I was young.

• 34:30Bunnie XO?

  My makeup artist has never even done cocaine. I'm like, how?

• 34:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 34:34Bunnie XO?

  How does that even?

• 34:35Speaker 05

  I thought that was, it wasn't those makeup cases.

• 34:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, literally. That's what I used to use my makeup case mirror for, you know what I'm saying? So when she told me she had never done cocaine, I'm like, this is crazy, but it's, you're right, it really is.

• 34:46Speaker 05

  You said that too, people are learning, the newer generations, I think they're learning from our mistakes and that gives me a lot of hope and I don't know what it is, what the shift is. But um, yeah, it seems a lot less common and I, I saw some statistics with like alcohol consumption. That, you know, alcohol companies are losing business rapidly.

• 35:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 35:03Speaker 05

  And you know, by all means, go drink, have fun and all that stuff, but um. You know, it's one of those things. It can get out of hand really quick. You don't need to be drinking every day and um, you don't need to be drinking Tuesday in the morning like I used to or whatever.

• 35:17Bunnie XO?

  And I feel like alcohol is sometimes worse than drugs because it's so fucking available.

• 35:22Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:22Bunnie XO?

  You can literally go and get alcohol any time of the day.

• 35:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:26Bunnie XO?

  And nobody's gonna say anything.

• 35:27Speaker 05

  When you're in a band, we'd show up in the morning shows and stuff. We'd be six in the morning, we've fucking hammered. Oh, yeah. And drinking whiskey, that's completely acceptable. If you, if you worked at a bank or any other job, you'd be like, you're fired, but we'd tell, people laugh it off, it's okay. Um, we were, we could get away with it. So it's a much more slippery slope where these things are accepted in our field and. You know, so that probably was not the best recipe for a bunch of addicts to work, or not a bunch of addicts, but some, uh, me.

• 35:56Bunnie XO?

  It's like I'm speaking for everybody.

• 35:58Speaker 05

  To work in a field where that stuff is not only allowed, but almost encouraged to a degree.

• 36:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 36:03Speaker 05

  Oh, they're fucking crazy. That's awesome.

• 36:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 36:05Speaker 05

  You know what I mean? So, um, you know, if you can handle it, you can handle it. And you know, everybody has their limits and it's cool that people encourage people to not, you know, your, your husband and stuff and you see these public displays of, hey, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to get healthy. I'm trying to do better. That was like frowned upon at one point. People tried to hide that. Now it's like, hey, everybody's rooting everybody on. And to me, that's just really refreshing because that wasn't like cool for a long time. And now it's like, hey, let's see how, let's everybody, let's do all these challenges with each other and see who can, you know,

• 36:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 36:36Speaker 05

  get their lives better. And you know, I think, I think kids today are a lot smarter than the kids were when I was a kid myself.

• 36:42Bunnie XO?

  Thank God, right?

• 36:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, we caused enough trouble.

• 36:45Bunnie XO?

  Let's switch it over here to you. Growing up in such a, you know, stable environment and loving home, did you battle with addiction also?

• 36:52Speaker 04

  Well, my, my childhood did shift, kind of dark. My dad got addicted to drugs. Like he ended up having to go to rehab. He got, he had like insomnia, crazy insomnia that he passed along to me, which fucking sucks. But, um, he got addicted to somas and all this other shit where he was passing out at our table on Thanksgiving and shit. So it got really bad and it made me like never want to do drugs ever. So I would like see anyone do drugs and be like, it's, I would see him, I grew up with him. Getting drunk with him was fun. He started doing coke and like, we'd be having fun and laughing. As soon as he does coke, now he's like fucking weird and serious. So I'm like,

• 37:25Bunnie XO?

  Shitting your pants.

• 37:26Speaker 04

  It sucked the fun out of your soul. Like I'd never want to do that shit. So it's like, I have, I have dabbled in things here and there, but for the most part, like, you know, beer is fine for me.

• 37:38Speaker 05

  And he's a good time. He's who you want to hang out with when you're, when you're drinking and stuff.

• 37:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, he seems like it.

• 37:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's, he's usually the life of the party. He'll make you laugh and stuff.

• 37:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. You remind me of my best friend, Kyle, who passed away. Uh, he was just such a sweet soul. Isn't that crazy though? How like you can go one of two ways.

• 37:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 37:53Bunnie XO?

  Whenever you see a parent that's an addict, you can either follow in their footsteps, like even unwillingly, it just sometimes happens, or you go the complete opposite way of like, which you did and you were just like, no.

• 38:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:03Bunnie XO?

  Learned from a very young age that that's something that you didn't want to do.

• 38:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe.

• 38:08Bunnie XO?

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• 40:12Speaker 04

  Kind of grossed out.

• 40:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. So moving on, you guys have formed Hollywood Undead and the original lineup was J-Dog. I feel like J-Dog's been around for everybody. Like you, you, you met J-Dog first, you met J-Dog first, and then you guys all intertwined. Yeah. So it was J-Dog, Deuce, Shady Jeff, Charlie Scene, Johnny Three Tears, Funny Man, and De Curls.

• 40:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 40:34Bunnie XO?

  So that was the original group. Can you guys take me on that journey with you guys? Like when you started dropping music on MySpace, you guys said that Tom from MySpace wanted to sign you?

• 40:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. He, he, he almost did. Yeah.

• 40:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 40:48Speaker 04

  Uh, the band first started actually with Deuce and J-Dog. They made like a hip hop song, like 50 Cent had just come out. They're like, damn, let's make a song. Or what was the song?

• 40:56Speaker 05

  I forget. Yeah. Maybe a 50 Cent?

• 40:59Speaker 04

  Uh, something like that. But they're like, hey, let's make a hip hop song and wear masks and put it on MySpace. And J-Dog sent it to, to me before he released it. Cause he's like, he knew I had freestyle. Like back in the day, I'd love freestyle battling and freestyle rapping and shit. Like I was obsessed with it.

• 41:12Bunnie XO?

  That's a dying art.

• 41:12Speaker 04

  Uh, it really is. Yeah. And now when people freestyle, it's written as fuck. Like I used to bring a boombox to high school and shit and freestyle with all the Bloods and like battle people.

• 41:20Bunnie XO?

  I love that. Yeah.

• 41:21Speaker 04

  So when J-Dog started doing hip hop, he sent it to me. He's like, hey, I want you to write a verse for this. And when I first heard the song, I was like literally blown away. It was called The Kids.

• 41:28Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 41:29Speaker 04

  This is the best fucking thing I've ever heard.

• 41:31Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 41:32Speaker 04

  So then I wrote a verse to song number two called Scene For Dummies. And that was the first written verse I'd ever done in my entire life. Cause I would only freestyle back then. Um, and then George, what song did you start with?

• 41:44Speaker 05

  I forget.

• 41:45Speaker 04

  Number five?

• 41:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 41:46Speaker 04

  Or Black Dahlia?

• 41:47Speaker 05

  No.

• 41:48Bunnie XO?

  Black Dahlia was my fave.

• 41:50Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 41:51Bunnie XO?

  I love.

• 41:52Speaker 05

  I forget. Okay. I forget.

• 41:54Speaker 04

  I think it was number five.

• 41:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, not really number five.

• 41:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:57Speaker 05

  Because we were like spurting him out then. Oh, yeah. Cause you had Jeffrey Star on it. We did, our third song had Jeffrey Star on it.

• 42:04Bunnie XO?

  Jeffrey's one of my best friends.

• 42:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's cool as hell.

• 42:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 42:06Speaker 04

  So awesome.

• 42:08Speaker 05

  He was like, he was like a Hollywood local back then and we had him do Turn Off The Lights. He did a song with us way back.

• 42:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 42:14Speaker 05

  That was like the third song we put out.

• 42:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 42:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:16Speaker 05

  And that was a trip when you had him on. I was like, holy shit. Cause I hadn't seen him or heard about him in so long. I know he was doing his thing. Um.

• 42:22Bunnie XO?

  He's fucking hilarious. He just walks in a room and you start fucking cackling.

• 42:26Speaker 04

  He's so funny.

• 42:27Bunnie XO?

  So funny.

• 42:28Speaker 05

  No, he's hilarious. He was always one of the like the sharpest dudes and he would.

• 42:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:32Speaker 05

  Way, even back then, like we were like nut jobs. He was like. He stuck out then.

• 42:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:37Speaker 05

  This guy's crazy.

• 42:38Bunnie XO?

  No, he's always been authentic and that's what I've loved about him is.

• 42:41Speaker 05

  Oh, no, he's great.

• 42:41Bunnie XO?

  Doesn't change who he is.

• 42:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, our car broke down or Jarell's car broke down and he's like, uh, he drove like, fuck, I wonder what it is. And then Jeffrey Star is like, well, if it's any, if you need tranny fluid, I got a little for you.

• 42:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's exactly how he is. We, he literally tried to make out with, he tried to make out with Jaime, my videographer.

• 43:00Speaker 05

  Did you do it?

• 43:00Bunnie XO?

  It was so, yeah, it was very close. If we weren't filming, it would have happened, all right? And he's got a beautiful fucking girlfriend. Like, I mean, just gorgeous. But yeah, no, Jeffrey's still the same fucking way.

• 43:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, he was on the third song we ever put out.

• 43:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 43:15Speaker 05

  It was really funny.

• 43:16Bunnie XO?

  I'm gonna have to take it up and listen.

• 43:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:18Speaker 05

  We, we were like, so now you know, like SoundCloud and all this stuff. I guess it was kind of like the original SoundCloud thing. We just started, we, it was like very rapid too. It was like a song a week. We just started, once one came out, it was just like, just kept pushing it and going. Cause people were listening to it and they kind of had a, uh, and then I remember, you know, MySpace had like an inbox and like, or there was a message there from, what was it? Like Elektra Records or one of them?

• 43:43Speaker 04

  Uh, it was Tom, Tom messaged us directly.

• 43:46Speaker 05

  Message, but then a label did.

• 43:48Speaker 04

  Oh, Capitol did. Yeah. Um, Rick Ross hit us up. The Strokes posted for us, like one of my favorite bands back then, like.

• 43:56Speaker 05

  We thought it was like a prank at first.

• 43:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 43:58Speaker 04

  And this shit happened so fast.

• 43:59Bunnie XO?

  We were just getting used to the internet back then when MySpace came around. So you never knew what was real or what wasn't.

• 44:04Speaker 04

  It was happening so fast too. Within three months, all these people messaging us and labels hitting us up and shit was like overwhelming and it didn't feel real.

• 44:11Speaker 05

  Yeah. And then I remember like we, so we, we ended up signing with Interscope, but I'm sorry.

• 44:16Bunnie XO?

  Thank you.

• 44:21Bunnie XO?

  I do it all the time too. She's always over there like.

• 44:25Speaker 05

  We actually went to a meeting. That was when it was like, dude, this is real. Like we met with Jimmy Iovine.

• 44:30Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 44:30Speaker 05

  I know.

• 44:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 44:31Speaker 05

  He, which is who we ended up signing with was Interscope, but that was when it was insane. We're like sitting in his office and he had like John Lennon's piano from Imagine and like frame two rock lyrics. And it was just like the most insane thing in the world, posting stuff on the internet.

• 44:44Bunnie XO?

  Where are you guys at in your life right there? So you're sitting, you're, you signed with Interscope, you're sitting in this office.

• 44:49Speaker 05

  I'll tell you something funny. We were so broke, we would ask for CDs in their office to go sell at Amoeba. Like, cause we, we didn't have any money. So we'd ask, hey, can we have like a box? We love like Led Zeppelin is when we're Atlantic and they'd give us like a box set of Led Zeppelin. We'd go to Amoeba to sell it for like secondhand for like 20 or 30 bucks. Cause we didn't have any money. And then they, Atlantic was like, I remember this, they were involved in like hypnotic, which was like this drink.

• 45:14Bunnie XO?

  Yes, I used to drink it in the strip club all the time. That shit would get you fucked up.

• 45:19Speaker 05

  We'd ask for like a case of it and we would just get drunk off of, for a few days and then go back to another meeting to get another case. And like, yeah, we were like, so it was funny, we're going all these meetings, but we had no money. Our manager had like this hoop-dee ride that we'd all like pile into.

• 45:33Bunnie XO?

  How did you find the manager? Where did he come from? Just out of the blue or was he a friend?

• 45:36Speaker 05

  That was our biggest mistake.

• 45:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, biggest mistake. He managed my band I was in before Hollywood Undead. So he kinda came in. But they managed Papa Roach at the time. So it's like, hey, they seem legit. Let's have them manage us. So yeah.

• 45:48Speaker 05

  He was just the only manager we knew.

• 45:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. And willing to like see the vision.

• 45:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:54Speaker 05

  He didn't know what the fuck he was doing. He was a nice guy. Uh, we just hired him because he was British. We thought he sounded smart.

• 46:00Bunnie XO?

  Something about that accent though, it does convince people.

• 46:03Speaker 05

  Might. Um, but yeah, it was just a wild time. Cause it was like, yeah, from nothing. And then yeah, we got a bunch of money or at least like in our mind, what was a ton of money at the time.

• 46:12Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 46:12Speaker 05

  And then, um, yeah, the rest was history.

• 46:15Bunnie XO?

  What's the story with Good Charlotte? Because they took interest in you guys too, or?

• 46:19Speaker 04

  Great Charlotte, right?

• 46:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, dude. They're the best.

• 46:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, they took interest. How did, how did we even meet up with them? They message us or something?

• 46:26Speaker 05

  No, so we.

• 46:27Bunnie XO?

  I love that everybody's DMing you guys. This is hilarious.

• 46:30Speaker 05

  Well, we used to go out in Hollywood all the time.

• 46:32Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 46:32Speaker 05

  But we were like dirt squirrel dudes. We were street kids.

• 46:35Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 46:36Speaker 05

  So we would go to this place called Powerhouse and like this place called Tiny's. These real like street bars, gangster kinda cholo bars. And there was all these clubs. We would never go to those clubs. They wouldn't like let us in there. But then we, when the band started hyping up, we were allowed, like we could start getting into these clubs and Good Charlotte DJed at this place called LAX.

• 46:54Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 46:54Speaker 05

  Um, and so we started going there and they knew who we were and we knew this guy named Tony Lovato, who was in this band called Mest. And he knew them. He had lived with Benji. And so we like got connected to them. And those guys are like the coolest dudes in the world. One of the coolest things, because they were big, famous dudes and they, you know, they were balling and stuff. We were like, still like, like just street rats. And they're like, hey, they had these like mansions and stuff and they'd be like coming to our house and we'd roll up there and they'd let us like, we'd go swimming and stuff. And they were just super, super cool, super supportive.

• 47:22Bunnie XO?

  Like Big Brothers.

• 47:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. And they just wanted to help it. They never asked for anything from us and stuff. They just thought we were gonna do well and they would give us advice and hey, man, make sure you do this.

• 47:33Bunnie XO?

  Which in this industry, that means a lot.

• 47:35Speaker 05

  They were just looking out for us. Seriously. Yeah. Taking us under their wing, like Big Brothers, really.

• 47:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 47:41Speaker 05

  Really cool. They had like, they invited us to Vegas once when he was like with Hilary Duff, Joel.

• 47:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 47:46Speaker 05

  And they had like this crazy suite, like all slept on the floor in it. Like, I don't even know why they let us hang out there, really.

• 47:51Bunnie XO?

  How do you let Hilary Duff go? That's just what I want to know.

• 47:54Speaker 05

  I don't know, dude. They were.

• 47:55Bunnie XO?

  Hilary Duff is hot.

• 47:56Speaker 05

  I know, he was big pimpin' back then.

• 47:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, he was.

• 47:59Speaker 05

  But yeah, he was just, they like, they would just like let us hang out with them for some reason, but they were just the coolest dudes.

• 48:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:04Speaker 05

  Super cool dudes.

• 48:05Bunnie XO?

  But you guys ended up, they helped you, but then you got fired by them? Or is that?

• 48:09Speaker 05

  No, no. So this is when we first started and then we, we, we, you know, hung out with them and then we went on our separate ways and blah, blah, blah. We ended up hiring as managers.

• 48:18Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 48:19Speaker 05

  Like a decade later.

• 48:20Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 48:21Speaker 05

  Um, they're great managers.

• 48:22Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 48:22Speaker 05

  Um, and we hired them, we did a record with them. The reason we're not, we weren't, they're, they work more in like the pop world.

• 48:29Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 48:29Speaker 05

  Um, they do like Chase Atlantic and they have some great bands, but we're, you know, we're a rock band really. So it just wasn't like the best fit. They're great managers, great dudes. And they look out for their artists. It just, we love the dudes. It just was not, we were in two different kinds of ecosystems.

• 48:44Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 48:44Speaker 05

  Um, but they're great dudes.

• 48:46Bunnie XO?

  Do you guys consider yourself rock or do you guys consider yourself rap?

• 48:49Speaker 05

  No, I, I, I really don't in a lot of ways, but that's just the world that we've come, like with the festivals we do and stuff. We've always been like. We'll play with like Slipknot and like Wage War and these bands. We're like, why are we on these? That's the world we've been accepted.

• 49:05Speaker 04

  For some reason, even though there's hip hop.

• 49:07Bunnie XO?

  I think it's because it's like you guys have that alpha angry music.

• 49:10Speaker 04

  Probably.

• 49:11Bunnie XO?

  That's literally how rock is now too.

• 49:13Speaker 05

  We kind of just ended up in that world. That was never like the world we pushed or anything like that. We would like I we thought we were going to be a hip hop band.

• 49:20Bunnie XO?

  Shockingly, my husband was on all those rock festivals too.

• 49:23Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 49:23Bunnie XO?

  How is this fucking, we're like the fray over here. Like, what are we doing in this rock festival?

• 49:28Speaker 05

  They they in Tech nines always on them.

• 49:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I love Tech. We just had Tech on.

• 49:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, I watched that. It was great.

• 49:34Speaker 04

  I think you're right. It's just it's just the energy of the band that fits into the rock.

• 49:38Speaker 05

  And Hip Hop is so popular that obviously they always have had like some hip hop type bands. That I guess it makes sense, but yeah, we were just embraced by that world more so and like rock radio played us and you know, obviously like Power 106 wasn't going to play us. So it was like, all right, fine. So it was just kind of where we ended up.

• 49:59Bunnie XO?

  And you guys have been touring with Ronnie Falling in Reverse, right?

• 50:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, a lot.

• 50:02Bunnie XO?

  So yeah, how's that going for you guys?

• 50:04Speaker 04

  Awesome. Yeah, it's great. We're about to go back out with them too for all of September.

• 50:10Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 50:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:11Bunnie XO?

  He's a special, special man.

• 50:12Speaker 04

  Oh, man. He's hilarious. I've become a major fan. I told him like I might sign up for the meet and greet.

• 50:18Bunnie XO?

  Literally. If Ronnie wanted to, he could be a fucking opera singer.

• 50:22Speaker 04

  Seriously.

• 50:22Speaker 05

  He's great. Super talented.

• 50:23Bunnie XO?

  He's got that crazy vocal range.

• 50:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:26Speaker 05

  And he's just funny as hell.

• 50:27Bunnie XO?

  So take me on this journey with you guys after you guys developed this band and the seven of you. There was a little bit of drama. We don't have to really go too deep into it, but I just want to touch base on it because your Reddit thread, for some reason, they have so many questions because they feel like they don't really know the whole story with you guys and like why Deuce left and all that stuff. So can we talk about that?

• 50:46Speaker 05

  We never talked. It's funny because we never really told anyone.

• 50:49Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 50:49Speaker 05

  Like people always, uh, part of that was because, uh, They would talk like shit. We didn't want to give it any air. You know what I mean?

• 50:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:58Speaker 05

  But really, it was just, you know, differences of opinion. And it was like which direction the band was going. And, you know, people, people act like assholes. It was just kind of like, you know, first and foremost, like me and I grew up with that dude. We were like best friends from when we were little kids. It was not like easy, but people change. And it was like one of those things, it sucked. No one wanted that to happen, but none of us made that decision.

• 51:23Speaker 04

  Right. He got, he, he.

• 51:25Bunnie XO?

  So he left on his own?

• 51:26Speaker 04

  Something snapped with him. Something changed to where he all of a sudden got very controlling and very crazy and very weird. And it was, it was hard to be around, but we dealt with it, you know? And it got to a point where he left the band. Like he's the one who left. We were at the airport. He didn't show up. So we're like, oh, fuck. So I had to sing and do all my rap parts. It was a lot of shit to do. So that was hard, but it was not our idea to do that. That was.

• 51:52Speaker 05

  None of us fought it because at that point we were all so almost relieved.

• 51:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:56Speaker 05

  Because it was just like, but dude, it wasn't like the way we wanted it. And it wasn't like the way we planned it. But, you know, it's funny, you see this stuff and you hear about this stuff happening. And when it happens in your world, you're like, what the fuck is going on with this guy? But that's, that's really what happened. And it was kind of like one of those things. So I don't know how to explain it, partially because I've never talked to him since. But we were best friends from when we were little kids prior to that and everything shifted. So.

• 52:25Bunnie XO?

  Do you think it maybe was just too young to handle that much?

• 52:28Speaker 04

  I think so.

• 52:28Bunnie XO?

  At once. Because that's a lot. Like when you guys post on MySpace and then you guys are signing record deals and then money's coming into play and there's seven of you. It's like.

• 52:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, maybe some people just aren't made for that or whatever. But, you know, to turn your friends into enemies is not the, the smartest thing to do. And that's really what happened. So it was just like, well, fuck you then. And we just decided to move on. So it was never like F this dude. It was just like, whatever to us.

• 52:55Bunnie XO?

  Even though he, didn't he make a diss album about you guys or was it?

• 52:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, that was the whole thing. So there was this, he's, he's saying this, that and the other thing. And then, you know, it was either like, do we respond? Our response was let's just not do anything because it's just going to give them air. And then obviously there was a time where Jay and Dylan were down in Hollywood and they beat him up with it. He was with a bunch of people down there.

• 53:16Bunnie XO?

  That was my next question. So there was really a fight.

• 53:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, I wouldn't even bring that up, but TMZ like

• 53:21Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 53:22Speaker 05

  Covered it. So it's already public knowledge. They found him down there and he had said enough stuff to that point, but we were never going to like

• 53:28Bunnie XO?

  I love that you guys are about it though.

• 53:30Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, we weren't going to say anything, but when we saw him, it was on, you know what I mean? And then, so they did that. And then he sued us and it was like, so we got a lot, like you talk all this shit and then you get your ass kicked. It was, there was like three of them and like, wait dude, it was a very lopsided competition.

• 53:47Bunnie XO?

  Competition.

• 53:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, and they all ran, they all lost. The ones who stayed got their asses kicked and then you sue as a response and act like you got jumped. It's like, dude, there was 10 of you guys and there was three of them. And then you sue. And so there was this big lawsuit and all this stuff and a bunch of made up stuff. He said, I wasn't even there. And he said, I was there with an AK. I wasn't even there. I was 20 miles away and he put, so I wasn't there. I wish I was there, but I wasn't there.

• 54:12Bunnie XO?

  Don't you love when your reputation precedes you?

• 54:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. So I wasn't even there and I have to fucking hire a lawyer to defend myself, to prove I wasn't there. I'm, I was at home.

• 54:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 54:22Speaker 05

  And trust me, I wish I was there, but I wasn't there.

• 54:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 54:25Speaker 05

  So that he, all this stuff. So who, who starts a fight, loses and then sues those people?

• 54:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 54:31Speaker 05

  So all this stuff happened. Um, so we never fed the fire or anything else. We handled what we had to handle when it came down to it. We ended up winning the lawsuit, settling the lawsuit because we had enough ammo to say, hey, look, this guy was making enough threats that when we saw him. We could prove that it was defense when we fought or whatever. So that all went away. The other stuff was just bullshit drama with the other dudes just not getting along, you know, normal stuff.

• 54:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 54:56Speaker 05

  That was the only real fire fiery stuff. And, you know, the other stuff was just normal. Hey, we don't get along anymore type of stuff.

• 55:03Bunnie XO?

  But I love that you guys, even through all of this, have managed to still stay together and still, because a lot like this would have broke up a band like normally this would have like you guys would have probably done your own adventures on side quests and just let the Hollywood undead name kind of rest. But you guys literally just kept trucking. And I think that's awesome.

• 55:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, we want to end it at least on our terms.

• 55:25Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 55:25Speaker 05

  You know what I mean?

• 55:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:26Speaker 05

  You know, when, at the end of the day, we'll do it our way. And now it like, now that that stuff is behind us, I think we enjoy ourselves now more than ever. And we've kind of settled into what we want to do. And, you know, the bygones are bygones. And I, to be honest with you, I don't even have any hard feelings towards any of these people now. I don't even care. So.

• 55:47Bunnie XO?

  That's good. That's growth, though. That's, you know.

• 55:49Speaker 05

  I still want to stomp somebody out.

• 55:52Bunnie XO?

  So there's J Dog, Funny Man, Johnny Three Tears, Charlie Sein, and Danny in the group now.

• 55:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:59Bunnie XO?

  Can you guys describe each other in three brutally honest words, each one of you guys?

• 56:06Speaker 05

  Three words per person?

• 56:07Bunnie XO?

  Or just you two?

• 56:11Bunnie XO?

  You've been saying that since you guys were kids.

• 56:15Bunnie XO?

  What would you say? He called you a piece of shit. So what would you say?

• 56:19Speaker 04

  No, I was just counting how many words it was.

• 56:23Speaker 04

  That was about me.

• 56:23Speaker 05

  He just likes to count.

• 56:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:25Speaker 05

  It's one of those things like Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man.

• 56:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 56:29Speaker 05

  Counts words.

• 56:31Speaker 05

  I'd just say totally great guy.

• 56:34Speaker 05

  Even with the piece of shit thing, I just, I'm not going to sing that low. I'm not going to do what Deuce did.

• 56:38Speaker 04

  What a good guy. Fuck, that's four, one, a good guy.

• 56:41Bunnie XO?

  I love it. I love it. So how do you guys balance individual egos and visions within the band now?

• 56:49Speaker 05

  You get married and get your ego crushed.

• 56:51Bunnie XO?

  So are all of you guys married now or pretty much settled down?

• 56:54Speaker 04

  Everyone except for Funny Man got divorced.

• 56:57Speaker 05

  Yeah. Be married and divorced. Yeah.

• 57:00Bunnie XO?

  That's all right. You live and you learn.

• 57:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 57:02Bunnie XO?

  Sometimes that's how it goes, but you guys are holding on strong in your marriages.

• 57:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 57:06Bunnie XO?

  You've been married for 12 years.

• 57:06Speaker 05

  Cheaper to keep her, as they say, right?

• 57:09Bunnie XO?

  That's what I tell my husband too, you know?

• 57:11Speaker 05

  My wife loves this show, so.

• 57:12Bunnie XO?

  Oh, tell her I said hi. What's her name?

• 57:15Speaker 05

  Asia, and she told me to say hi.

• 57:16Bunnie XO?

  Hi, Asia.

• 57:17Speaker 05

  Hi, see?

• 57:19Bunnie XO?

  I bet you she's hot too. I want to see you guys as wives. I don't think I've ever seen you guys as wives. I've seen J Dog's wife and I love J Dog and shout out to J Dog because people give me shit about my cows on fucking online and he'll be in the comments sticking up for me.

• 57:32Speaker 05

  Oh, hell yeah.

• 57:33Bunnie XO?

  I'm like, that is so sweet.

• 57:35Speaker 05

  That's cool.

• 57:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 57:36Speaker 05

  He's, he's an animal lover.

• 57:37Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love that.

• 57:38Speaker 05

  He's got like 90 cats.

• 57:40Bunnie XO?

  Oh, damn.

• 57:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, he like, he's always got some animals.

• 57:42Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy cat man. I don't know if that's an animal lover. That's a crazy cat man.

• 57:46Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah, he's a cat. Well, he's always, I remember I, when we used to work in North Hollywood together. He had, we had like this kind of like trap house type thing.

• 57:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 57:56Speaker 05

  And it was right, there was like a bum village right by it.

• 57:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 57:59Speaker 05

  And we're always going in there to like rescue the cats that live there or he would go in there and the bums didn't want to give up the cats, so we'd have to like bribe them to get the cats.

• 58:06Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God.

• 58:07Speaker 05

  Cause otherwise they would just run around out of control, having more kittens and they die and stuff. So, you know, negotiating with these bums and like to give us the cats. We're always on these crazy cat adventures.

• 58:20Bunnie XO?

  I love that though.

• 58:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 58:21Bunnie XO?

  So you guys do contribute like calming down to being married, having babies. Do you have babies?

• 58:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, I have two boys.

• 58:27Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love that. How old are they?

• 58:29Speaker 05

  Five and six.

• 58:30Bunnie XO?

  Five and six and how old are your babies?

• 58:32Speaker 05

  Three girls, one's three, one's five and one is 16.

• 58:35Bunnie XO?

  Karma came for you, Tuck.

• 58:37Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. You want to hear something cool? Me and him had a kid on the exact same day. He has got a boy and I have a girl born in this, at the same day, at the same hospital, right down the hall from each other. Yeah, it was like a Disney movie. It was beautiful.

• 58:48Bunnie XO?

  You guys were either brothers in another life or something. You guys definitely have a soul time.

• 58:54Speaker 05

  We're going to be related too, because my son's going to be hitting that.

• 58:56Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 58:58Speaker 05

  Just one. He's, he's going to be his first threesome with the two youngest.

• 59:01Bunnie XO?

  Oh, for the, the Eiffel Tower.

• 59:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 59:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Love that.

• 59:04Speaker 05

  I'm going to be proud.

• 59:05Bunnie XO?

  Love that, love that. I love that. Do you guys feel like your recent music reflects growth and, or like, do you guys feel like your recent? Albums that you've dropped reflect growth from the boys that you guys used to be? Or are those wild party boys still in there?

• 59:22Speaker 07

  I hope I don't have to cancel again tonight.

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• 1:00:52Speaker 04

  Uh, for sure.

• 1:00:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:00:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:55Speaker 05

  You know, I honestly, it's funny, I look at like, I used to think of it, it's, music's not like linear like that, you know? So I don't, there's something that's great. Like when I listen to like early Beastie Boys stuff, you could say like, oh, they grew because their music became more like complex or because the subject matter was, but I love their early stuff just as much. It's more just like where someone is at. You know what I mean? So it's like, our early stuff, we were just really young and like, one of the things I love about it is like all the anger was so sincere. And that's the, you know, in like the party stuff, we really were just still doing all that stuff. So I don't look at it as, it's just two different time periods. And I really cherish, when I listen to that stuff, I used to get kind of like, oh, I would have done something different. I really did get caught up in that.

• 1:01:40Speaker 05

  And now I don't. And now I listen to it and I really do like, look at it and kind of like encapsulated as something special. Whereas before I used to be like, we should have done this different or that different, or we could have made this better as opposed. Now I just kind of go, you know what? That was, it was cool for what it was.

• 1:01:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:01:55Bunnie XO?

  How do you feel about that?

• 1:01:56Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like, I think we try for the most part, or we do write from honesty. And like, we're not like saying we're doing something that we're not. So it's like, do I show my dick and go to the club and fucking do Jager bombs? No, I don't do that anymore.

• 1:02:13Bunnie XO?

  No dick on the chopping block, which I still wanna see. Maybe we'll catch you guys out on tour and you can show Jay and I that type of place.

• 1:02:19Speaker 04

  We'll do that at the meet and greet.

• 1:02:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:02:22Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 1:02:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, M E A T.

• 1:02:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I like that.

• 1:02:26Speaker 04

  Yes, we're just writing from real places now. And we still write party songs too, but it, but they're just different now, you know?

• 1:02:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:02:32Bunnie XO?

  You have to evolve.

• 1:02:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, you have to.

• 1:02:34Bunnie XO?

  My husband says that all the time because, you know, people want rap a rollback. And he's like, what, I'm fucking 40 years old. What am I supposed to sing about, rap about drugs and fucking bitches?

• 1:02:43Speaker 05

  The truth is, if you're not, you're like, uh, you're, you're trying not to then. Cause if you're, you know what I mean? It's like, if we wrote Undead again, cause a lot, we've heard that.

• 1:02:51Bunnie XO?

  I love Undead. I will fucking, I will beat somebody up listening to Undead.

• 1:02:56Speaker 05

  Every label we ever, every man, hey, why, you guys ever try and write another Undead? It's like, that doesn't hap, it doesn't exist. Because it was organic. We were mad. And it was like, a period in time.

• 1:03:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:06Speaker 05

  And if we wrote another Undead, people were like, oh, this isn't as good as the Undead.

• 1:03:09Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:03:10Speaker 05

  You can't. So it's like, the whole concept of redoing, like a remaking something you've already done is impossible because we're, you're like a completely different person. It was 20 years ago.

• 1:03:20Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:03:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, you just gotta find the next thing that's as good, but just honest.

• 1:03:24Speaker 05

  It's always gonna be different though.

• 1:03:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:03:26Speaker 05

  And, um, you know, it's like, uh, your, your concerns and where you're at emotionally and spiritually and stuff is much different 20 years later.

• 1:03:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:35Speaker 05

  That doesn't mean your music can't be just as good. It's just going to be about something else.

• 1:03:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. Can you tell me the story about when you hung out with my husband and ended up having to sleep in your car?

• 1:03:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, the truth too, right?

• 1:03:49Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:03:51Speaker 05

  That was a good night. Can I tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth? So help me God, I'll tell you my version of the truth.

• 1:03:57Bunnie XO?

  Listen, we can cut out whatever you need to, but I would like to hear.

• 1:04:00Speaker 05

  No, I don't care.

• 1:04:00Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:04:01Speaker 05

  So we went there and I actually drove there because I was like, I'm not going to drink or anything.

• 1:04:06Speaker 05

  So normally like if I was gonna, you know, I would Uber or something.

• 1:04:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:09Speaker 05

  So I drove there and we're sitting around with Baylish and Jelly and some other dudes and him and stuff. And then they started, we had some like tequila and stuff and then there was like some drugs, you know, cocaine came out. So like, oh boy, this is going to turn into something different. I was like, oh, I drove, you know, so I was trying to kind of be like, I drove, I can't really. He's like, oh, don't worry about it. My security card will drive your car home. And I was like, well, then how's he gonna get back? He's like, my other security guard will drive him back. And I was like, I, so I kind of ran out of excuses. So I was like, okay. And so we drank and then we like, we had like, I remember we were, he spelled out a giant G and a giant J and cocaine.

• 1:04:52Speaker 05

  Like spelled out the lettering, but he, he didn't touch it. So I did the whole G.

• 1:04:58Bunnie XO?

  He's like, I took it upon myself.

• 1:05:01Speaker 05

  And we recorded the song and I remember too, it took me, because I was so yacked out, it took me.

• 1:05:05Bunnie XO?

  I was gonna say, I thought you turned into like the not the fun guy when you did blow.

• 1:05:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, it wasn't, no, Jelly Roll even said, he's like, man, you said when you did coke, you changed. And when you do coke, you change. Yeah. Cause I get really like wired up and.

• 1:05:16Bunnie XO?

  It makes me want to rock, if I'm not absolutely completely shitfaced and I do a line of cocaine, I will rock back and forth like I'm in a straitjacket. Like I don't, I don't like it.

• 1:05:25Speaker 05

  The problem is, so you're in a studio trying to record and you're boxed in and you're trying to like focus. That is the worst thing for me to try and do if I'm doing blow.

• 1:05:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:32Speaker 05

  So anyway, the end of the night comes around and the dude, this big ass security guard is like driving me home. I don't even know, it was the most awkward.

• 1:05:39Bunnie XO?

  Probably Maui.

• 1:05:40Speaker 05

  He's super cool.

• 1:05:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:42Speaker 05

  But you know, he was just like.

• 1:05:46Speaker 05

  You know, he's like, shut the fuck up, white boy. So he drives me and another guy follows and then we get there and I'm knocking on the door and no one will let me in. I'm pretty sure my wife.

• 1:05:57Speaker 04

  It's like seven in the morning or six in the morning.

• 1:05:59Speaker 05

  No, the sun was coming up. So it was like.

• 1:06:00Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I hate that feeling.

• 1:06:02Speaker 05

  It was worse. I was like, dude, I'll just go in my car. It's fine. He's like, no. Jelly told me not to leave until I see you go in the house. And I was like, dude, leave. And he's like, I can't do that. And I was like, dude, you're gonna get me like, this is gonna be way worse if my wife wakes up and I'm here with some giant security guard. It's gonna make me, he's like, I'm sorry. He's my boss. I can't go. And I was like, oh my God, what am I gonna do? And like, people are waking up and walking their dogs. This guy's like seven feet tall and I'm standing up front of my house, poked out of my brain. And so I was like, what am I gonna do? What am I gonna do? So I was like, okay, well, let me try the garage and I open it and there's like a fridge that blocks the garage door. And I acted like I was opening the door and he was like standing out there like this. And so I was like, oh, it's open. And he was like, like this. And I saw I went like this behind the fridge.

• 1:06:51Speaker 05

  All right. And I just hid there like that until he drove away. I went and hid my car for the rest of the night.

• 1:06:56Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God, that is brutal. You had to sleep in the car. Did you sleep at all? What happened when you got in the car? That's what I'm curious about.

• 1:07:03Speaker 05

  No, I laid there and then, uh, I don't know. I probably listened like some Billy Joel and just.

• 1:07:10Bunnie XO?

  I used to drink mouthwash to go to sleep on like cocaine nights. Yeah.

• 1:07:13Speaker 05

  When I didn't have any alcohol. I was probably just laying there scared of my wife.

• 1:07:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Oh, God. So was wifey pissed?

• 1:07:20Speaker 05

  No, she was cool about it. I don't know if she knows what happened. So now probably.

• 1:07:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I'm gonna have to ask my husband if I can release the whole story. I love that.

• 1:07:30Speaker 05

  It's okay with me because now, you know, it's funny because I haven't drank or done drugs in two years. And she asked me if I could do it for a year and I said, yes. I did a year and then I was allowed to drink or do whatever I wanted. And I just did another year because I was like, why not keep going?

• 1:07:44Bunnie XO?

  Dude, you got two years behind. I'm telling you, when I got sober, I got sober in 2017 off pills and cocaine, 2018 off alcohol. Sobriety sucks. It's the worst journey that you'll ever go on, but it is the most rewarding and most fulfilling. The more years you get under your belt, you don't even, I used to wake up and crave chewing a Xanax and like drinking vodka. And now I couldn't, I can't even fucking take cough syrup, you know, like it's crazy how we change as we get older. And when you really just have a goal that you want to reach, you know, as far as sobriety.

• 1:08:14Speaker 04

  That's really good for you.

• 1:08:15Speaker 05

  I didn't know that. It's tough. And life is much more fulfilling without that stuff. At least, you know, the, the way I look at it too is like, stuff's hard, but at least you have like a chance to fix things and you're at least up to bat. If you keep, if I kept drinking or you keep doing that stuff, you're never even gonna get up to the plate. You're just gonna keep knocking yourself back down before you even have a shot. So.

• 1:08:33Bunnie XO?

  And having to start over.

• 1:08:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:08:34Bunnie XO?

  You know?

• 1:08:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:35Bunnie XO?

  It's like, is it worth it to have to knock all those days down that you just accumulated under your belt to for a drink or for a night of just feeling like shit? And hangovers are not the same. Are you guys in your 40s?

• 1:08:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:45Bunnie XO?

  Okay, me too. Hangovers are not the fucking same.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  No, they're two days minimum.

• 1:08:50Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I get three. And then my mental health afterwards is just fucking wrecked.

• 1:08:55Speaker 04

  The worst.

• 1:08:56Bunnie XO?

  It's so bad. You get anxiety, you get depression, like all that.

• 1:08:59Speaker 05

  People talk to you like.

• 1:09:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, I, I won't leave my house. Like Thai food all for all three days. I'm not leaving my house.

• 1:09:06Speaker 04

  Weird Thai food. Same, we do the same cuisine when we're hungover.

• 1:09:09Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 1:09:10Speaker 09

  I don't even like Thai food.

• 1:09:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:12Bunnie XO?

  I'll drink coconut soup all day long. I can eat fucking curry. Like, give me drinks.

• 1:09:16Speaker 05

  And imagine those wasted days, three days where you could have been doing all this stuff.

• 1:09:20Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:09:20Speaker 05

  You're just watching X-Files, which is what I do.

• 1:09:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:23Speaker 05

  And it's like, I just waste my life.

• 1:09:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:26Speaker 05

  All these, all that time. And then, you know, I have three kids.

• 1:09:29Bunnie XO?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:09:29Speaker 05

  When my, when, oh damn, tired. I can't go to the park because I'm, you know, and lying and shit. It's just like, fuck this.

• 1:09:35Bunnie XO?

  They don't take no, and these kids these days do not take no for an answer.

• 1:09:38Speaker 04

  Hell no.

• 1:09:38Speaker 05

  No, I know. Yeah. You're, you're missing all these good memories and stuff. Just meh.

• 1:09:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Well, I'm proud of you for the two years.

• 1:09:44Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 1:09:45Bunnie XO?

  I'm very proud of you. So moving on, what do, what do we have to look forward from you guys this year, 2025 and next year, 2026?

• 1:09:52Speaker 04

  We got that tour with Falling in Reverse in September, and then we're working with the producer Tyler Smith, who, um, we're super excited to work with. He, um, he did the song Savior that just came out and he's just the most talented producer I've ever worked with personally. And the crazy thing about him.

• 1:10:07Speaker 05

  He doesn't know he lives in the hood though.

• 1:10:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, he lives in the hood.

• 1:10:10Bunnie XO?

  That's the one in, uh, East LA?

• 1:10:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Um, he produced I Prevail and Falling in Reverse when both those bands used to open for us. And he produced them and they're. The biggest rock bands out there now.

• 1:10:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:10:23Speaker 04

  So we're hoping he can do that for us.

• 1:10:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I think you guys are like, you guys have had nine lives. Like it's for this band to make it through all you guys have in 20 years. You guys are still making new albums, recreating yourself. I mean, you guys are gonna be here for a while. You guys aren't going anywhere.

• 1:10:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, you never know, right?

• 1:10:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:41Speaker 05

  That's what keeps us going.

• 1:10:42Bunnie XO?

  What do you think the sound is gonna be like on this next album? What are you guys hoping it'll be?

• 1:10:47Speaker 05

  I mean, well, the song we just, we had two songs come out so far and both of them are like completely disidentical from each other.

• 1:10:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:53Speaker 05

  Um, what I always, what I always liked, I, I just wanna make sure that what we're doing is nothing like what we've done before. That's always what I go for and I think what we go for and

• 1:11:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:03Speaker 05

  Um, keeping it original. When I listen, you know, when I listen to the radio, I always listen to it to make sure we don't sound like anything on it.

• 1:11:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Would you guys ever do country?

• 1:11:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:13Speaker 05

  He loves country.

• 1:11:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, I, I like write and produce country since I moved out here to Nashville. Yeah, shout out LaCade. I told him I'd drop his name on here.

• 1:11:20Bunnie XO?

  Ah, I love it. I love that.

• 1:11:22Speaker 05

  Should I show him my dick since we're here?

• 1:11:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:24Speaker 05

  I always send him pictures of my dick.

• 1:11:25Bunnie XO?

  Let's do it, yes. No, I'm just kidding. Asia, come on down, baby.

• 1:11:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:28Bunnie XO?

  Um, so would you guys do like a country song? Cause I, when you guys, you know, collabed with my husband.

• 1:11:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:35Bunnie XO?

  And I think that that song was, was great. It wasn't country, but it was great.

• 1:11:38Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:11:38Bunnie XO?

  Um, you guys should collab again and do like something country.

• 1:11:41Speaker 04

  Heck, yeah, we would love to do that. That would be awesome. No, I've always, I think like in Hollywood Undead, we do have the luxury of doing any genre and I've talked about country enough to where fans are almost expecting us to do a country song that also is Hollywood Undead.

• 1:11:53Speaker 05

  We could essentially do anything we want.

• 1:11:55Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:11:56Speaker 05

  Be like, whatever. Okay.

• 1:11:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:58Bunnie XO?

  I could see you guys doing a do-si-do thing on stage.

• 1:12:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:12:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, that would be lit. You guys, thank you so much for coming by.

• 1:12:05Speaker 05

  Our pleasure.

• 1:12:06Speaker 04

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:12:06Bunnie XO?

  I'm glad we finally made this happen.

• 1:12:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, totally. Us too.

• 1:12:09Bunnie XO?

  Long time coming. Tell everybody where they can find you guys on your social medias if they aren't already following you.

• 1:12:14Speaker 04

  Um, just any social media slash Hollywood Undead.

• 1:12:18Bunnie XO?

  There you go.

• 1:12:18Speaker 05

  Yeah. I don't know anything about that.

• 1:12:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:12:20Bunnie XO?

  Do you guys have personal profiles?

• 1:12:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, the real Charlie Scene, easy.

• 1:12:24Speaker 05

  Hey, no piece of shit.

• 1:12:25Speaker 04

  The real Charlie Scene, T H E N.

• 1:12:28Bunnie XO?

  Not Sheen, Scene.

• 1:12:29Speaker 04

  Not Sheen. And then what's yours, Johnny Three Tears?

• 1:12:32Speaker 05

  I'm guessing.

• 1:12:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:34Speaker 05

  Johnny 32 or something, or piece of shit, slash piece of shit. No, I take that back. Handsome devil, fuck that's two words.

• 1:12:40Bunnie XO?

  And catch you guys on tour with Falling Underverse this summer, correct?

• 1:12:43Speaker 05

  September, yep. Slaughter to prevail.

• 1:12:45Bunnie XO?

  Where are you guys going? Is this out of the country or is this here?

• 1:12:48Speaker 05

  US, Canada.

• 1:12:49Bunnie XO?

  Okay, awesome. Yay, well go get your tickets, guys. And if we're on the road, when you guys are on the road, I want to come see a show.

• 1:12:55Speaker 05

  Heck, yeah, please do.

• 1:12:56Bunnie XO?

  All right.

• 1:12:57Speaker 05

  Cool.

• 1:12:57Bunnie XO?

  Thank you, guys, for tuning into another episode of Dumb Blonde. See you, guys, next week. Bye.