Farrah Abraham: Trauma and Comedy

Throwback Episode (Originally aired: 4/17/24) This week, Bunnie gets up close and personal with the iconic mother-daughter duo that refuses to be defined by rumors or the past. Farrah Abraham and Sophia sit down for an unfiltered chat about their lives navigating fame and family ties. Farrah spills the tea on all the tabloid tales, from Nicki Minaj beefs to poop sales. She also gives a sneak peek at her upcoming comedy tour, where she's taking her candid humor nationwide to break trauma bonds through laughter. Sophia reflects on her passion for music and how she learned to follow her own path while growing up under a microscope. Farrah Abraham: IG https://www.instagram.com/farrahabraham/?hl=en| Website https://farrahabraham.com/ Sophia: IG https://www.instagram.com/sophialabraham/?hl=en Watch Full Episodes & More: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Dumbblondepod

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• 1:47Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on?

• 1:49Speaker 02

  Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.

• 1:53Bunnie XO?

  Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit and I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money, and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child and here we are.

• 2:04Bunnie XO?

  What's up you sexy motherfuckers. Welcome to another episode of Done Blonde. Today I have a mother-daughter duo, which is a first for me because I normally don't do mother-daughter duos, but these two have grown up together in the public eye and I figured what better duo to bring on than Sophia and Farrah Abrams?

• 2:25Speaker 03

  Yes, I know. What a good duo. That is true. I feel like we've definitely grown up together. I am her mom, but yes.

• 2:35Bunnie XO?

  I just want to say you look beautiful.

• 2:37Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:38Bunnie XO?

  I feel like the tabloids attack you so much for like work that you get done. And I mean, you know, they attack me too. So I know how it feels, but it's like seeing you in person. I'm like, you look fucking gorgeous. Like what, what are they talking about?

• 2:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, thanks. You know, I can't help but social media cameras look like that cracks me up because literally as we're flying in here, I'm like, Sophia, someone tagged me on this crazy like artwork of my botched face that doesn't look like my botched face. I'm like, this is funny today. This gives me some laughter. Sophia just like laughs at it too, but I'm like, I'm really happy. I don't do like much work. I take things out of my face. I really am on a journey of like really getting back to myself. And so it's kind of funny when I just do a live and our cameras are weird and people think I've gone crazy with plastic surgery, but that's not the case.

• 3:33Bunnie XO?

  Well, I figured it out because I went down a wormhole just like reading and it's because you use filters. And so that's honestly, I, the same thing was happening to me. People were like, how much work have you had done? And I'm like, bro, I've had botox and fucking a little bit of filler in my lips done. Like, what are they talking about?

• 3:48Speaker 03

  And that stuff is gone.

• 3:49Bunnie XO?

  The filters that we use make us look like we have way more work done than we do because you're sitting here and you look gorgeous. So I'm just like.

• 3:56Speaker 03

  But I do have my Farrah filter that has like had billions of hits and I love it. And if I don't like to get ready that day, I will totally use that.

• 4:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. What have you had done so that we can clarify that with everybody?

• 4:12Speaker 03

  Well, I, you know, okay. So I will just say I have had a nose job. I have had a chin implant. I.

• 4:21Speaker 03

  And then I just dabble here and there with fillers at times that go, you know, they stay, they go. Um, but I also like was trying to do a lip implant and I was on Botch, the show. Uh, because I almost died from that. So, and I took out my chin implant. Um, but for some reason, yeah, I took out my chin implant. And for some reason, people always go back and compare. Farrah looks great like this with the face that had a chin implant, a swollen nose from a surgery. Um, just, I was actually really depressed at that year of my life. Like that was the most. Um, what's it called? Like when you're just.

• 5:03Bunnie XO?

  The lowest, your lowest point.

• 5:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like a face dysmorphia. Like when you have body dysmorphia. I had that at that time when I had that chin implant. And so for people to say, oh, we love Farrah better than when I was definitely like anti myself. Um, and peer pressured and just like, oh, I want to look good. That was just like way too much. So I love my face now. I love who I am. I love coming back to myself. Maybe like just rejuvenation and skin tightening and really taking care and upkeep of myself is what I pride myself on. And that's like good self-love.

• 5:42Bunnie XO?

  And there's nothing wrong with that. I think people get it twisted. They're like, when women get filter, uh, fillers and botox and stuff like that. They're like, oh, she must be unhappy with herself. And it's like, no, I like to invest in myself. Your body is an investment.

• 5:55Speaker 03

  It is an investment.

• 5:56Bunnie XO?

  It's a temple. You gotta dress it up or dress it down, whatever you want to do, but it's your body to do that with. So. Well, yeah, enough about your looks. I just wanted to hone in on that because I feel like the tabloids just tear you apart for that and that's not fair. You know, so I don't like that at all. But Sophia, we have you sitting here too. How are you doing, baby?

• 6:13Speaker 04

  I'm doing good.

• 6:14Bunnie XO?

  She just got her tongue pierced, so she said she doesn't want to talk a lot. The tongue piercing actually caused a ton of controversy.

• 6:21Speaker 04

  I know people hate it a lot. I'm like every single piercing I get and it's just like chill. Like it's not that big of a deal, you know, but I do know some people are really strict about that. Growing up and, um. But it's just me and I feel like getting piercings enhances my looks. And I feel really confident about them and I make sure to get ones that I know I would actually look good in.

• 6:50Speaker 04

  So yeah, I'm confident in my piercings and I love them and they are all healing really good.

• 6:58Bunnie XO?

  I love that. I went through a piercing phase when I was young too. I did it behind my parents' back though because they wouldn't allow it. How do you feel about everybody just questioning your parenting because you let your kid get, uh, what is it, a tongue piercing and snake bites?

• 7:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, good, good point Bunny. Segue.

• 7:17Speaker 03

  So we've had parents even come with us to the piercing place like on her birthday. And I do see the psychological like spiral. That other parents go through when they're seeing Sophia choose this, consent to do this. I have to sign off as a parent and give consent to it. And I'm not there to freak out, go in a spiral like shame, blame, reject my child. I'm here to make sure my child's seen. She is safe and she is supported. So if those three things are always top of mind.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  Then I know that what I'm doing, the footsteps that I'm walking in my parent journey are right where they need to be for my child. So. Yeah, I could, I could say a lot about other parents and what they feel about me and my daughter's friends' parents. But I also know, once they calm themselves and maybe do a therapy session, they usually text me. And really are like, wow, you opened my eyes to parenting in a different way.

• 8:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was never the girl though. I was never the kid growing up to be like, could I get a piercing? Could I get a tattoo? Could I get this? Could I get that? It was just, no one ever had any of those things growing up. And so I just never thought about it. And when. I'm like famous and people are just like, I'll give you free this, free this, free this, free tattoos. Like I could tattoo up my whole body. I could do all that. I just myself personally, I'm not prepared for that. But I see like Sophia is prepared. She's at that point in her mental state and her life and she can do that. And I'm not the person to, I don't know, I've just gone through this whole thing with a lot of legal battles that I am going through.

• 9:10Speaker 03

  And I learned so much about consent culture and leading with that and allowing someone to have their will, their rights, their freedoms. And I think that's just very important on maybe the littlest things like a piercing or tattoos. And so I'm just, again, those three things, seeing safe, supported. That's all I need to be for my child.

• 9:32Bunnie XO?

  I never thought that I would agree with you more. I totally feel the same way because I feel like in this generation of parenting and children, because we have a 16 year old, she's about to be 16.

• 9:45Bunnie XO?

  There's so much more shit. You gotta choose your battles. There is so much more shit, worse shit that these kids could get into, excuse my language Sophia, that these kids could be getting into. And it's like if they want to get a piercing, they're gonna, it's either it's a phase or it's not. I kept mine for 20 years. You know what I'm saying? So it's like if Bailey wants to come to me and get a piercing, that's gonna make me happy because she could be like doing other things that are way worse behind my, our, you know, her parents back. And I just totally agree with that. I think making kids feel seen and heard and letting them be who they want to be and having free will is an amazing route to go. How do you feel about that? Do you love that your mom lets you get piercings and stuff like that?

• 10:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm very grateful that she supports all my decisions and my piercings.

• 10:27Bunnie XO?

  We love your look. We were just talking about it. I was like, if I could look like Sophia, I would, because that's really how I look on the inside.

• 10:35Speaker 03

  I love Sophia's look too, and I'm happy with whatever look she decides and what she loves. Yeah, I just feel like I was just raised in a different way. Like I was called a witch for wanting a rhinoplasty. I like.

• 10:49Bunnie XO?

  By your mom?

• 10:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, by my mom. So I know that that doesn't give anyone self-worth, like feeling worthy. And that is number one, when you're getting, you know, if you have fame, or if you have anything, your self-worth needs to be built up so that you are not vulnerable for other things. Like I was very much predatored on um, and still dealing with some of those problems. So I'm just trying to set up a, a next generation to have that

• 11:19Bunnie XO?

  sacred.

• 11:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, that safe place, be seen, know who they are, and not seek that in other people.

• 11:26Bunnie XO?

  Not seek validation in other people. Speaking of moms, would you consider your mom your best friend?

• 11:31Speaker 04

  I mean, yeah, she is my mom.

• 11:34Speaker 03

  I am your mom.

• 11:35Speaker 04

  My best friend.

• 11:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, thank you, Sophie. I love you. You're so, you're so cute. I'm so cold, but I want to give you a hug.

• 11:44Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 11:45Speaker 03

  I love you, honey. I love you.

• 11:48Bunnie XO?

  You guys have pretty much grown up together. The world has watched both of you guys grow up. Like literally you as a baby, you have grown up in front of the world, and I think that's why everybody is so obsessed with you now. Like you're kind of like the new it girl on TikTok right now because everybody's like, what's Sophia doing?

• 12:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, Sophia does not like to show much that she does, though.

• 12:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 12:08Speaker 03

  That could be the emo in her, but yes.

• 12:11Speaker 04

  I'm not emo, I'm goth.

• 12:12Speaker 03

  Oh, goth. That could be the goth in her.

• 12:14Bunnie XO?

  Describe to us, or explain to us what the difference between emo and goth is, just in case people at home don't know.

• 12:19Speaker 04

  So I do know that there is many types of goth, goths out there, like traditional goth, and just, I would say, regular goth. Um, but emo is like regular dark clothes, I feel like, and accessories. I mean, today I'm kind of emo because I didn't want to go all out. Um, but goth, I feel like is like black dresses, corsets, and lots of jewelry, sometimes belts.

• 12:55Speaker 04

  I follow a lot of Goth people on TikTok and they're so cool. I admire them and I want to be like traditional Goth, I feel like, one day. Um, but yeah, today I'm kind of emo, I would say.

• 13:08Bunnie XO?

  I love it all. I love Goth, I love emo, I love it all. I always thought it was music selection. I always thought, Mimi, haven't we talked about this before? Isn't like emo and Goth like music selection, isn't it?

• 13:19Speaker 05

  Music and interest of like the culture, because like emo culture is significantly different than a Gothic culture, like what your interests are in per se of those things and their music is completely fifty fifty different.

• 13:30Bunnie XO?

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• 15:04Bunnie XO?

  Farrah, do you feel like you are having an opportunity to be the mom that you never had with Sophia?

• 15:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's the opportunity to be the mom that I never have, but I have one opportunity to be the best parent that I can be in my life. I have no competition with my mom, my grandma, my sister. I have no competition with anyone to be the best mom. I am running my own race in being the best parent that I can be. And I was giving, given like eye-opening experiences in my lifetime to say like, I'm not repeating that with my child. So like, public school, it wasn't going to be repeated. Um, I had a superintendent as a neighbor, no matter how much we push and push and push, to have a better, safer, public school environment, it just never happened for me. Like, fights,

• 15:53Speaker 03

  bad situations, and I guess like when like a public or governmental system fails, I take it upon myself to just lead. Um, so I found like best homeschooling practices and whatever else like for Sophia's career, those type of things. I don't know. No one's laid out the, no one's laid out that path. So I've definitely am just like I'm on this journey and figuring out as fast and as best as I can.

• 16:20Bunnie XO?

  I don't think anybody knows how to be a parent. I inherited a child and we're still figuring it out. You know, we got full custody of Bailey seven years ago and that nobody gives you a handbook and says, hey, this is how you have to be a parent. And there's also no one size fits all to being a parent.

• 16:36Speaker 03

  That's right, yeah.

• 16:36Bunnie XO?

  Every child is different.

• 16:38Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 16:38Bunnie XO?

  Every emotion, every personality, every, it's just all different.

• 16:42Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 16:42Bunnie XO?

  And so I think, what, I think as long as Sophia is happy and healthy and feels like she's safe, that's, you're already winning.

• 16:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:50Bunnie XO?

  You know, and do you feel these things, Sophia?

• 16:52Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 16:53Bunnie XO?

  She's shaking her head over here.

• 16:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, everyone is different. I mean, I got Sophia's brain scanned and I got my brain scanned.

• 17:00Bunnie XO?

  From Doc, Doc Amen, right?

• 17:02Speaker 03

  Doctor Amen.

• 17:03Bunnie XO?

  How was that? Cause I was gonna do that with him too, but I chickened out.

• 17:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, it is life-changing. I, I feel like that is literally what, I mean, to know yourself better than anyone else could tell you who you are. I think that's probably like the biggest gift in our journey of life is to know yourself, see yourself fully. Not guess from a therapist and be like, oh, I, I have this, I'm dealing with this and well, let's try to like guess. Um, but I also think for children who just aren't diagnosed properly with different ADA compliances.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  I just was kind of tired of not having the help or the support and that's why we kept switching schools. Uh, but myself, I found out that I was like ADA compliant, ADHD I like when I was twenty nine. And to go through my whole life of people just wrongfully firing me, telling me I'm difficult, like girls not liking me. My family like kind of disowning me. I just was like, I, I can't be mad at them. I can't dislike them. I can't like have hate towards them. But I also know like, I just need people who are educated around me. I need to thrive. I'm done with all that traumatic.

• 18:17Speaker 03

  Crisis behavior and just, I really want to have education in my journey now as parenting. So.

• 18:23Bunnie XO?

  So you feel like getting that diagnosis helped kind of clear things up for you of like, oh, this is why I've acted the way that I've acted. And this is why people have perceived me of how I've been acting.

• 18:34Speaker 03

  And I also think like dating, when you know like what your brain type is and what you like. Like I think only certain dating shows show like, oh, this is a pet peeve and this is what I don't like. But if we really like started employing like, brain matching and like those psychological factors, we would find. Our soulmates faster. We would understand what we need, like what's going to be a good match for us. So.

• 18:59Bunnie XO?

  Describe to me what a brain match is.

• 19:01Speaker 03

  Yeah. So Dr. Amen has something free online and it's like a brain survey and you find your brain type. So I have brain type two, Sophia's ten, right? Pretty, yeah. Sophia's brain type of ten and it.

• 19:16Bunnie XO?

  Can you describe what they are to me? Like what is a two and what is a ten?

• 19:18Speaker 03

  Okay. So part of me with my eighty, ADHD and a 10 of disorder is like, I will like short-term memory loss. Like I can't recite it back. I'd have to look it up. Um, so just being frank, but so mine's like, I don't even know. I forgot like the foods, um, types of friends, types of jobs.

• 19:37Bunnie XO?

  Okay. So it breaks it down.

• 19:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, they break it down. They kind of make it individualistic. And yeah, so when I went on this like 12 step dating journey and learning how to date again. And we were talking so much. So she was like, go on all these dates. And I stopped doing dating shows because it just was not happening there. And I was like, talking to these people in depth, like about intentional dating, like trying to figure out like their brain types. And sure enough, the boyfriend I have right now, he has the same brain type as me. He took the survey and he's gonna get his brain scanned.

• 20:13Bunnie XO?

  That's like us with the autism test. We make everybody that wants to come in our circle and hang out, take the autism test because I am high on the autism thing. So is Haley and so is Mimi. We all.

• 20:25Speaker 03

  Oh, I have no idea. What's the autism test?

• 20:27Bunnie XO?

  I'm gonna give it to you. What is it? Rads? Yeah, we'll send it to you. You guys take it tonight. No, please. You guys have to take it tonight and I want to know you guys' scores.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  Okay. So does this mean everyone has autism?

• 20:40Bunnie XO?

  I mean, I think a lot of us have a splash of it for sure.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  For some reason, that didn't show up on my brain scan. I just want to let you know. I don't know if I can be in your friend group.

• 20:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Does autism show up on brain scans? I wonder if it does or if it doesn't. I'm not positive about that.

• 20:55Speaker 03

  From what I know, he does describe how he diagnoses people with certain levels of autism and many different kinds of brains.

• 21:05Bunnie XO?

  Okay, I didn't know that.

• 21:06Speaker 03

  I'm trying to think back. Well, anyways, there's graphs. I also did direct neural feedback for my brain too, after having a brain scan. And they talked about all different kinds of things to correct it, help those. So I did like 200 sessions of that.

• 21:21Bunnie XO?

  That's amazing. I love that you're always working on yourself.

• 21:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, I did a whole year of that. Now I'm kind of done with it, but it was, it was needed.

• 21:29Bunnie XO?

  Take me on this journey that you did a 12-step therapy, trauma therapy program?

• 21:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, I did. And I think it was, it's gonna be two years in March, I did a trauma 12-step program. I think that's what it was, like a recovery program and literally changed my life. So I had, the reason why I finally went, I feel like a lot of us don't understand, like if you could search up like spiritual melody chart, I didn't know what that was at all until I stepped foot in here, but I saw it in life. All of us see it in life. Like when we're looking at someone going through a hard time, maybe depression, maybe anxiety, all of these things, their spiritual melody is being like.

• 22:16Speaker 03

  Upset. And when someone reaches such a certain level, they're at risk of harming themselves, death, whatever, attracting a lot of negative things. So at the time when I was going to the trauma center, I um was kind of stuck in a repetitive pattern that was attracting a lot of criminal activity to me. And now it's so funny because after the center, I just attract the best people to me.

• 22:43Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 22:44Speaker 03

  So I think that's something to keep in mind. If you are feeling like, whoa, I keep dating lots of bad people. I keep like being attacked on the street. I keep having a lot of fights and arguments. It's because you need a reset. You need to recover. And a lot of people just don't think they deserve trauma help.

• 23:03Bunnie XO?

  Hmm. So when you went to the, what was this exact program? Was it like to actually treat like childhood trauma? Or was it like?

• 23:12Speaker 03

  Oh, so I was sexually assaulted.

• 23:15Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 23:15Speaker 03

  Um, recently. It wasn't like in childhood. And I think a lot of the people who I met, they had significant amount of like sexual assaults, trauma, those type of things, very deep, like veterans were there. Um, all sorts of things that they had held on for a very long time. I think with one trauma, uh, like a sexual assault trauma, I don't think I could endure or live if I didn't go get help. So I was like, I need something. Um.

• 23:50Bunnie XO?

  Can you, can you talk about the sexual assault? What happened? Is this the situation that happened with the mayor?

• 23:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, we're like really dealing with all that stuff like right now.

• 24:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 24:01Speaker 03

  So I, I don't like mean to like, hold anything back because I'm sure would help so many people.

• 24:08Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 24:09Speaker 03

  Um, but I also know like. We are dealing with someone who is systemic, like habitually a rapist. So I probably don't want to give any fuel to that, but if we want to just talk about, like, great things for other, you know, like honestly, I said to myself this week because I'm dealing with so many legal issues. I said to myself, I was like, I think I'm gonna have to break down and just go get a support group. Because I'm like-

• 24:36Bunnie XO?

  It's gotta be tough to hold all that in and not talk about it.

• 24:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, because again, like rapey vibes, right? Rape culture vibes, opposite of consent, consensual vibes is lying, continually like masking. And when you're going through a legal issue and someone's always lying and speaking for you and covering their ass and it's just like, huh. You know, I can journal about it, but I also like, I truly like to watch movies that dive into like someone making peace, getting past it, and like moving on. So it's like, I've made peace with it. I'm trying to move past it, but then you have these legal court problems that just go on for years.

• 25:22Speaker 03

  Like my lawyer said at the beginning. And I just feel, you know, like my heart goes out to so many other rape victims who are like going through this stuff for years. It's just, it's really tedious.

• 25:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's very hard. I do think talking about it, like you said, is probably the best thing, one, for you, therapy, and two, to help your, that's your testimony, you know, something that you've survived and that you've gone through. So maybe people are able to connect with you if they, you know, were to, were to know more details of what had happened or what is going on.

• 25:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, I think it's just, um, this is sad, but um, from reading so many legal documents about assaults because again, I didn't understand the situation that- I became a part of, uh, which was like a sexual assault, like problem. And so my lawyers just kept sending me a lot of like legal documents to read of like Jane Does. So I like would understand what it looks like, why this happens, like all these things. And then I got so interested in it and so passionate that I was like, ah, I'm gonna go get a legal degree. Um, I went down that, got my paralegal certificate and I'm getting ready to do a JD in law.

• 26:40Speaker 03

  But I think the comment, like this is so weird that this happened at this time in my life. But I saw like innocent people not being believed. And then I saw a lot of people who actually lied. This could be men or women, lie about being sexually assaulted. And I think learning from lawyers, what we're looking at, how we're seeing that, how this comes up. You really know like to fight for your truth, to stand firm. Because others who lie and kind of like put it or like men or women who they claimed that they were assaulted by. Um, that's like a whole other psychological thing.

• 27:22Speaker 03

  So I think there's like a lot of trauma work, no matter what, even if you're lying about it, if you're telling the truth. I've been going through all this stuff and breaking that down because I started writing a screenplay about it. And I used it in one of my Harvard classes for screenwriting. And I got to see it like acted out with actors and read. And I think like, maybe just for me, I would feel safer, um, showing that in like artistic form, like a series. And I love watching movies and TV series that really help comfort people who are actually really going through a long, long legal battle. With sexual assault because I think like Sophia showed me some funny uh

• 28:07Speaker 03

  episode on Shameless about one of the guys like pretending that he got sexually assaulted and going in um and going through this whole process and I think sometimes you need you need someone like my daughter to let you laugh and make light of a really deep dark situation that I was put on medication for the medication wasn't helping.

• 28:31Bunnie XO?

  Were you raped?

• 28:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:33Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 28:33Speaker 03

  Sexually assaulted.

• 28:34Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 28:35Speaker 03

  Or I don't know what that means to you, so sorry.

• 28:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I mean, I mean, there's so many.

• 28:38Speaker 03

  I don't know if you know what I'm saying.

• 28:39Bunnie XO?

  There's so many different, um, you know, falls under that umbrella. A sexual assault could be being groped, could be, you know, being kissed when you don't want to be or like this like you, that's why I asked if you were raped.

• 28:52Speaker 03

  So this was like some, oh, sorry, I didn't like know that you didn't know that of what, yeah. So there you go. It's like, oh, you know, sometimes you can limit yourself because you don't want to get too close to the problem at hand, right?

• 29:02Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 29:03Speaker 03

  Just vulnerability. Uh, so yeah, I um was drugged and woke up like thinking like did someone set me up? Like, are we both in this together? Who would do this? And then I realized it was him who did that and I was stark naked, did not know where any of my clothes were.

• 29:24Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 29:25Speaker 03

  Um, my necklace was broken, all that stuff and it was just like flight, like I just like ran. I just really didn't know how to behave.

• 29:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:34Speaker 03

  So doing the best you can, and I think for a lot of other um sexual assault victims, you do the best you can when you are the crime scene, straight up. It's just like a lot of people are like, I'm watching Crime Stoppers and Dateline and all these other criminal shows. But I think I I was raised with that too. I love watching criminal shows too, but like when you're in it, it's way different. It was literally like, sometimes I used to say like, you know, different red carpets are doing these things. Oh, it's so surreal. Being sexually assaulted and being like the crime scene was surreal. That was like it just felt like my brain and my body was not connected.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  And so I had to do a lot of therapeutic work, somatic experiencing work on that.

• 30:22Bunnie XO?

  Hmm, that's heavy. I've never heard anybody refer to themselves as the crime scene. That's pretty heavy. That's deep.

• 30:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's real. Moving on from that, I've heard you say a bunch of things in there. So let me see if I can catch up. You said you did a screenplay in your Harvard class. So are you attending Harvard or?

• 30:41Speaker 03

  So I actually got in an argument with Harvard about my neurodivergence.

• 30:45Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 30:46Speaker 03

  So even though I'm ADA compliant and turned that in. Uh, yeah. So that lady kicked me out, or not the lady with screenwriting. She gave me E for exemplary. She like raved. She was like, this is what you need to do. And I think sometimes when you are going through trauma, the power of the pen and writing it and kind of sharing it in like a theatrical way. It's like, that has always been there for me. So like even when I was pregnant with Sophia, I lost her father. That was super traumatic for me. I was in acting class at that time. And my acting teacher's like, you need to continue this or just continue going to classes. He's just like, you need to use this as a power. So if anything, I would say that for people who are going through really traumatic experiences.

• 31:30Bunnie XO?

  So you were going to Harvard and then somebody kicked you out?

• 31:34Speaker 03

  Yeah. And one of my other classes, um, neurodivergence was an issue for her. So even though that's against the law in education, educational places. So I have found better colleges. Yeah.

• 31:48Bunnie XO?

  Um, when you just touched base on her father passing, can we talk about that? Cause you were so young when that happened and that had to have crushed you.

• 31:57Speaker 03

  It did. And you know what? Speaking of the trauma center, I know I went to the trauma center for a recent situation that was traumatic. But I did not know that I should have gone to a trauma center at 16 when I lost her father. Because yes, that's the first time I was put on like medication. I was suicidal. Again, not knowing my ADA compliant disability and knowing how to deal with loss. It was just scary. Um, and so, yeah, when I was at the trauma center, I met other women who were there because they lost their boyfriends in traumatic situations.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  And like other kind of like people who had just lost a lot of people. So um I was like, why did I, why did I not come to the trauma center when I was sixteen and pregnant and have all these cool tools now that I have in my mind, in my brain, at home? It really probably would have helped me bounce back quicker, maybe from a sexual assault, or bounce back quicker from other traumas that I continually have. So I'm just, again, thankful for that.

• 33:03Bunnie XO?

  Circling back to the traumatic experience of losing her father, do you feel like your mom was not there for you emotionally whenever? Because it plays out on the show, you and your mom have a very tumultuous relationship, where it's like very on again, off again. And I feel as a viewer that your mom almost wasn't emotionally there for you. And do you feel like that has been like a huge thing in you and your mom's relationship even to this day?

• 33:33Speaker 03

  Yes. Um, you see like on this show that maybe my mom and I disagree about a lot of things. I would say in all, because I had to like really, you know, like 12-step inventory trauma center. You actually write down, it's called the fifth step. You write down anyone you have relationships with. So I'm writing down my mom, I'm writing down my dad, anything. And what came up, just so you know, in those like 12 steps and like going through relationships, and why maybe people saw like, maybe I didn't feel like my mom was supportive. It's actually way more than just not having support. It's like, was I seeing?

• 34:12Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 34:12Speaker 03

  She never saw how much I love someone. She like, she came up after hearing that he had passed away, that she was happy that he was gone. And I think we might have, we might have our own feelings. Like I would with Sophia and her boyfriends in those situations. But I do, I do know that like I have reasoning and capability of understanding like someone's, someone has feelings here and I need to put my stuff to the side.

• 34:43Speaker 03

  That was crazy, but a lot of what came up at the 12-step trauma center when you're writing down your relationships is abandonment, abandonment, abandonment. And most people will say, well, I didn't abandon you. Like you were living at my house. I was giving you shelter. I was doing this. But abandonment might come from not being seen, not being feeling safe. I didn't feel safe in that environment. And not being supported, like we say, just support. But it's really like a lot of those three things that I said I wanted to do for my daughter that I realized I did not have in my home with my dad, with my mom, maybe with my whole family at large when I look back at it. So there was no surprise. And once I got out of the trauma center,

• 35:29Speaker 03

  like I stopped talking to my dad. I stopped talking to my mom. I haven't talked to them in almost, I think my mom, she was like at 30, so, 32. So everyone's been kind of around two years I've stopped talking to my family. Like I am so flourishing, happy, independent in my life. And it's good that I got to again, write down inventory and see why and what. So there's these prompts about childhood, what I would like to say, do I want to write letters to them? And half the letters I wrote when I was there, no one responded or no one wanted to talk about those things when I got out.

• 36:09Speaker 03

  So I'm just taught to be like, okay, that's where someone is. They can't meet me and I have to go live my own life. So that's what I've been doing. It's been really relieving, relief.

• 36:22Bunnie XO?

  Does your relationship with your mom affect Sophia's too? Sophia, do you choose to talk? Do you, do we call her grandma?

• 36:29Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 36:29Bunnie XO?

  Do you choose to talk to grandma or just be, or because mom and her don't have a relationship? You choose not to also?

• 36:36Speaker 04

  Um, honestly, I'm really comfortable not talking to her at all. And with my grandpa too. Um, it hasn't really bothered me at all, not talking to them over the years.

• 36:49Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 36:51Speaker 03

  I'd have to say like, anything that I do does not need to affect someone else.

• 36:56Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 36:57Speaker 03

  A lot of the grandparents in my family, I've just noticed a habitual thing where they feel like

• 37:06Speaker 03

  fair as like me, I'm the horrible person because I, I'm making someone else not talk to them. To be completely transparent, I saw that my daughter was being affected by their bad behavior every time that they were around. Um, you know, to not feel loved, to not be heard again like as a kid, or just be like, like just back and forth, stuck between all these.

• 37:34Speaker 03

  I can't say the word immature, it's just a lack of education of how to have communication. That's really just, um, such a mess that I was raised in, that I knew I did not want that for my daughter and I was trying to be like a good daughter and like I flew, I flew my daughter out to Arizona to meet her other grandparents. I've flown her back and forth for sixteen years or whatever to like see her dad's side of the family. But when you go to a trauma center and you take time for yourself that is so needed and everything's quiet, and you see, wow, I am such a damn good parent because I'm the only one who's paying, flying, doing. No one else is.

• 38:17Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 38:18Speaker 03

  It's been over a decade. Like, let's stop this charade.

• 38:21Bunnie XO?

  But more importantly, you're there for your daughter. Like, I don't see you without Sophia.

• 38:26Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. Like, I am number one, I think.

• 38:30Bunnie XO?

  And you're making her feel, you're making her feel every way that your parents never did. And to me, that's a sign of a good parent, is breaking generational trauma and generational curses.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:39Bunnie XO?

  And I think you're doing the best that you can.

• 38:41Speaker 03

  All the way. And so it can be seen transparently of who, what, everything, genetics, what's going on, why someone might be doing this, why someone might not, and to choose better choices. So Sophia was kind of the one to say, like, I don't want to hang out, or I need a break from certain grandparents. So the charade of the grandparents continually always acting like I hinder anything, I've, I've seen with clear eyes what it is now, so.

• 39:13Bunnie XO?

  And you just choose to remove yourself from a toxic situation, which that's not a bad, that doesn't make you a bad person. Especially if you said that you wrote them letters and you were trying to communicate how you were feeling, and they completely told you, like, look, I don't want to deal with this right now. So that's not fair to you, because it's like, when is the time to deal with it? Y'all know I'm always doing something to the house, and lately I've been working on our outdoor space. I'd been looking for something to pull the patio together when I found the Hardigan black and white outdoor rug on Wayfair. Once I put it down, I loved how the clean, modern, geometric pattern completely pulled the space together without having to redo everything. Plus, it's stain and water resistant, pet friendly, and you can literally hose it off

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• 41:34Speaker 03

  And that's fine if they're never there. So I'm just, I'm just like, okay, I'm gonna go live my life. And this is what I've been waiting for and healing. And I think like that's been so good for me to get out of trauma bonds. Like, let's have bonds of like, I don't even know, happiness.

• 41:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:52Speaker 03

  Um, so I'm just excited to build good, healthy, happy bonds and leave all those trauma bonds behind. And if other people would like to stay there, that's not me. It's not helping my mental health in any capacity.

• 42:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 42:05Speaker 03

  Um, and so, yeah, from that, I was like, okay, I'm gonna keep 12-stepping in like dating and like career and life. And it's really been beautiful.

• 42:14Bunnie XO?

  When you say 12-stepping, does that mean sobriety?

• 42:17Speaker 03

  Um, some people think it's about sobriety. I actually... I just have to say it like this, twelve stepping is about like the twelve step principles. So you don't have, it's not about like drinking. It's like, I think there's humility, brotherly love. Like there's twelve principles of life that I think are just amazing and help me be my best self and connect and see myself. And others, um, like serving, um, so those are the twelve step things I do in life.

• 42:46Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha. I've, I've never heard of it. So that's why I hear, you know, like most people when they hear twelve steps are like, oh, okay. She's in the program or like, you know, doing the twelve steps for like alcoholism, or I don't know if they have twelve steps for drugs. I'm not positive about that.

• 42:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's twelve steps for everything. I honestly say like twelve steps for anxiety. I feel like I've looked at every group, um, Court's definitely had me do like fifty hours of AA. Um, and over that, but when I came to the trauma center, I was so disgusted, to be honest with you. I was so disgusted by alcohol and what alcohol had done because there was just alcohol involved with my sexual assaults or rape. And so everybody else maybe around me was like, I can't wait to drink. I can't wait to do drugs. And I was like, whoa, I could stay here all day long and I don't even care about that stuff. But I am super excited to learn about these principles and like, see if it works.

• 43:44Speaker 03

  And like, if I turn on church, does it connect? And like, everything just really showed me like, this is what I have been yearning for my whole life. And so that's why I just say I'm twelve step in dating. I'm twelve step in my career. Like it's just principles that work.

• 44:01Bunnie XO?

  I do feel, or do you feel actually not, it doesn't matter how I feel. Do you feel that alcohol has played a part in some of your legal issues as well? Because didn't, didn't you get it like a DUI? And then also, um, you had like a little thing with us, was it a security guard outside of a nightclub? Um, when you were drunk and like they cuffed you and put you on the ground and stuff like that. Do you feel like alcohol has played a part in some of your legal troubles?

• 44:26Speaker 03

  So alcohol definitely is a depressant and attracts negatives to you.

• 44:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 44:33Speaker 03

  I'm literally

• 44:34Bunnie XO?

  That's why they call it a spirit, because it lowers your spirits.

• 44:37Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, it lowers your spirit. Um, and I wouldn't recommend anyone who's been assaulted or attacked or hasn't been educated on trauma work should not be drinking. It really makes your life worse. Um, and so yeah, that I'm dealing with that legal problem even today.

• 44:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 45:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, two years later, she won't stop harassing me. Um, so yeah, so now she's trying to do.

• 45:07Bunnie XO?

  You're lightweight funny as fuck dude, like really, if people really paid attention, they would see that you are funny.

• 45:12Speaker 03

  Sophia's hearing me like on court, like lawyer calls before this because of her. Uh, she didn't know how to serve me. Uh, so she claims that she's gonna get lots of money from me right now.

• 45:23Bunnie XO?

  Okay, I thought it was a man that you, that they, that's saying that you slapped him or something or kicked him?

• 45:28Speaker 03

  No, this is a woman who's a liar, but she is just like, that's why I have to postpone even like me doing like a comedy portfolio that I've been working on. Like, could you imagine me going to work? And then being served in front of everyone. I'd so it's like, I have to now reorganize my life around people who target me and won't stop harassing me because I just won't put up with it anymore.

• 45:53Bunnie XO?

  What happened? Like you, you were out drinking with friends and then?

• 45:57Speaker 03

  I went to a dinner.

• 45:58Bunnie XO?

  Uh huh.

• 45:58Speaker 03

  So I was definitely more about the food. There was alcohol.

• 46:01Bunnie XO?

  We love food.

• 46:02Speaker 03

  Yeah. And I was asked with my two other colleagues to go upstairs and see their new little rooftop thing. I didn't have a drink up there. I went to the bathroom. It felt like I was set up. One of their customers was in front of my purse and my bag in between my friends. Not with her group. And I was like, could you please like move? That, that's my stuff. These are my friends. She wanted to keep going at me, hitting me, hitting my friend who was trying to block me.

• 46:28Bunnie XO?

  She hit you.

• 46:29Speaker 03

  And then her friends are pointing to remove me. I'm being then manhandled by huge security guys. This woman puts herself in between this mix coming at me and I say, leave me alone. You see me yelling. And this is like a girl, a different girl than I am today at that time, who has been sexually assaulted. Can't handle too much. She's just been physically.

• 46:50Bunnie XO?

  Been through a lifetime of trauma. You've had trauma started when you were younger.

• 46:54Speaker 03

  And so she doesn't want to listen. And so I do this with my arm and you see the full movement on the camera. And she wants to try to touch my hand. And so literally my hand is like touching this woman's like mask, not her face. Uh, so her glasses are on, her mask is on. She keeps wanting to manhandle me with all the men. She then goes into an elevator with me. I'm like, leave me alone. I walk off property, waiting for my other friend who wants to call the police, wants to do all this stuff. And sure enough, then her and the other guy, um, just finagle up to come after me off property.

• 47:38Speaker 03

  Then he cuffs himself to me, is like touching me all over. She's over there yelling that I hit her in her face and whatever. I'm yelling back. And so, yeah, basically I'm winning a personal injury case on top of this. The criminal case got thrown out. Cause I did nothing. The personal injury case, I'm recovering all of my trauma costs and me moving and everything else. Like I had death threats because this woman would not shut her mouth with all of her lies. Like people literally thought. I would hit and target security people. And that's just completely not the case. So dealing with all of this, it's just like.

• 48:18Bunnie XO?

  Stressful.

• 48:19Speaker 03

  I've had a lot of people just continually try to sue me, sue me, come after me, come after me, come after me. And I just don't want that in this next chapter of whether it's my comedy career, me showing up to places. And I also have to realize like I have to do, I don't even like security guards to be honest. So me getting security is also like. A trust fall.

• 48:41Bunnie XO?

  No, that's how I am. My husband makes me travel with security everywhere. And I'm like, why? I feel like I have a babysitter. I'm like, I hate it. It drives me crazy.

• 48:50Speaker 03

  I don't know. I've never, I've had a lot of issues with security guards. This is not the first one.

• 48:54Bunnie XO?

  I think you need to have somebody in your life that's there to protect you though, because you are. You know, the fanbase that you guys have from Teen Mom is wild. Like, I've had Janelle and Kale on the podcast.

• 49:07Speaker 03

  That's awesome. Yeah.

• 49:08Bunnie XO?

  It is like, those people are really invested in you guys' lives. You guys have a lot of great fans, but it is like a cult fanbase, you know, and

• 49:19Speaker 03

  We love it. I love it.

• 49:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And but the thing is, is in that sea of people who love you guys, there's a few people who have it out for you. And these are the people that you're like running into. So I think having somebody to protect you from that isn't a bad idea.

• 49:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, I will say

• 49:34Bunnie XO?

  One less lawsuit to worry about.

• 49:36Speaker 03

  One less lawsuit. They keep coming. I actually embrace them. I just surf on lawsuits at this point.

• 49:41Bunnie XO?

  How many lawsuits do you have right now?

• 49:43Speaker 03

  I'm like trying to close up like three.

• 49:45Bunnie XO?

  Oh, God, that's so stressful.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  Like, who knows? But I think like we're just reinventing the wheel of like, okay, if we're gonna do not a tour, if we're going to just like present it and package it, then we can, you know, control like who's on sets and how we do those things. So like I can still keep moving forward in my life.

• 50:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:07Speaker 03

  Um, so yeah, I'm just kind of tired of sitting still, but it's been good.

• 50:12Bunnie XO?

  Take me on this journey of you doing comedy.

• 50:16Speaker 03

  I feel like a Farrah Abraham roast is overdue.

• 50:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I would attend. I think it would be hilarious.

• 50:22Speaker 03

  We'll, we'll give you the mic. So

• 50:25Bunnie XO?

  I don't want to be mean, though. I just want to watch.

• 50:27Speaker 03

  It's good to roast people. You know, it's good to see if I've overcome.

• 50:30Bunnie XO?

  I love that you can laugh. I love that you can laugh at yourself, though, and you don't take yourself so serious. I think that's a great quality to have.

• 50:37Speaker 03

  It's definitely been a challenge, you know.

• 50:40Bunnie XO?

  She's like, I've been working on it.

• 50:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, I've been working on it so hard. I can't wait. Um, but yeah, I just want to do some things uh, with comedy and maybe just talk about like behavior in a funny way. And I think learning behavior and learning myself, I think it's like been a good soul journey and I want to share that in comedy.

• 51:01Bunnie XO?

  What spawned this whole entire journey with comedy?

• 51:05Speaker 03

  Um.

• 51:06Bunnie XO?

  Have you just always been a comedy fan?

• 51:09Speaker 03

  I don't even know. I mean, who doesn't love some Ace Ventura Pet Detective?

• 51:13Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 51:14Speaker 03

  But I actually got my SAG credits from a Comedy Central special that they did for me. And after I got wrongfully fired from Teen Mom, I started getting SAG checks in the mail and I started seeing where it was from. And I was like, oh my God, it's from Dave Attell inviting me for my comedy special. And I was like, well, I really did like that and it was so fun and I liked the people. And I think in this next endeavor of my life, I'm kind of more intentional about who I'm working around.

• 51:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 51:47Speaker 03

  Um, how they're making me feel and I can't.

• 51:50Bunnie XO?

  Comes with age too. You're what 32 now?

• 51:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm 44. So it takes like, as you get older, you get to a point where you're just like, I don't care what, what the look is or how many people are gonna see it. I care about being around people who are gonna build me up.

• 52:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:05Bunnie XO?

  Make me feel good about myself, who people I can learn from.

• 52:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:08Bunnie XO?

  You know, so I think that's awesome that you're realizing that now.

• 52:11Speaker 03

  Yeah. So it's just wonderful and um, I just hope to have great work environments and enjoy myself.

• 52:19Bunnie XO?

  When can we expect this comedy tour?

• 52:21Speaker 03

  Oh my God. Or the specials. I can say specials. I don't know about tour, but um, I would, I would hope by the end of this year. I know some other shows are coming out and we'll see like what happens. Um, but yeah, I'm just kind of like risk assessing.

• 52:36Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 52:37Speaker 03

  My career and just making sure, but I don't.

• 52:40Bunnie XO?

  You're reinventing yourself.

• 52:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:42Bunnie XO?

  I feel like you do that all the time. You have done, is there anything you haven't done? You've made albums.

• 52:48Speaker 03

  I haven't done like my law degree yet. Like yeah, Sarah's Court will be, I like Judge Judy. Oh my God.

• 52:55Bunnie XO?

  That would be awesome.

• 52:56Speaker 03

  I love her. I would love to do a court show, please.

• 52:59Bunnie XO?

  Oh, let's put it in the air. Manifest it. That would be awesome because you literally, one thing I do admire about you, you have fucking hustle. You're not lazy.

• 53:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, ADHD doesn't sit.

• 53:10Bunnie XO?

  Is that what I have? Is that why I can't sit still? I'm literally always on to the next goal.

• 53:15Speaker 03

  It's fun.

• 53:16Bunnie XO?

  No, you literally are always doing something, always selling something. I mean, you're like.

• 53:22Speaker 03

  Who doesn't like sales? I love sales. I do love sales. I think if you're like good at serving people and like matching people and doing things, oh my God, sales is like a dream.

• 53:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. Let's bring it over to Sophia for a little bit here. What do you want to be when you grow up? Have you ever thought about that?

• 53:39Speaker 04

  Um, yeah, I've been getting into music. So I think when I grow up, I want to be a music artist, maybe. And a entrepreneur and an influencer.

• 53:50Bunnie XO?

  I love that. Does your mom influence that a lot? Do you really look up to your mom?

• 53:54Speaker 04

  She did, um, really support me doing my music when I was younger. Um, I have two music videos from like a super long time ago, which is like, kind of cringe.

• 54:05Speaker 03

  Before God.

• 54:06Bunnie XO?

  I mean, we all, we all have that we look back on and we're like, what the hell was I thinking?

• 54:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, I wrote those songs myself.

• 54:14Bunnie XO?

  That's amazing. You and Bailey would really get along. She writes her own music and stuff like that. We'll have to introduce the girlies for sure.

• 54:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, for sure.

• 54:22Bunnie XO?

  What's your favorite thing about your mom? What do you admire the most about her?

• 54:26Speaker 04

  Um, her beauty and.

• 54:28Speaker 03

  You think I'm beautiful?

• 54:30Bunnie XO?

  That is sweet.

• 54:31Speaker 04

  You are.

• 54:32Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 54:33Speaker 04

  She does that kind of often, but she's beautiful.

• 54:37Speaker 03

  That's good that I know where I need to work on.

• 54:39Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love that.

• 54:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love that. Thank you, Sophie. I appreciate you.

• 54:44Bunnie XO?

  What's your favorite thing about Sophia?

• 54:46Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh. Well, I love Sophia's beauty, like no joke. I always am like, you have like your dad's nose, eyebrows, the chin, like I just, I love it. Um, and I'm so happy you have the, all that going for you. You're gorgeous. And what else? I mean, I pretty much love everything about my daughter. Like I love, I loved you, like parenting you as a kid. I love parenting you as a teen. I love your silliness. I mean, there's so much I just love it all. There's, I don't know why.

• 55:18Bunnie XO?

  It's making me smile.

• 55:19Speaker 03

  I don't know why. A lot of parents are like, I don't know if I like my teenager today, but like I really, I practice my gratefuls and I think I just have always loved my daughter totally. Yeah.

• 55:33Bunnie XO?

  Holy, you love her for who she is?

• 55:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:35Bunnie XO?

  Do you guys feel like you're soulmates? Cause you know, soulmates, soulmates don't have to be lovers. Soulmates can be friends, children, parents, like that's.

• 55:46Speaker 03

  Um, I do always wonder, I don't know if other parents wonder this or whatever, but I do feel like I was given my child, like Sophia, like I was given Sophia. I don't know what it is, like even when like her dad wasn't there, I had her in the um, uh, birthing room and like I'm just looking at her. I just like, there was this eye connection and like, I knew that even though nothing was perfect, however, I wanted to plan it growing up. That I was meant to be there at this time with her and I will never forget that from the hospital room. So I like, life can just totally fall apart around you like it has with me.

• 56:31Speaker 03

  But yeah, I, I don't know if that's soulmate, if that's exactly what you meant. But I do know, like, I was supposed to be with Sophia and like, she is my child. Like, I do know that. It's just crazy.

• 56:44Bunnie XO?

  You guys are gonna make me cry. I think that is so sweet. And Farah, I want to give you your flowers because I watched a, a lot of interviews the other night, just trying to get a feel for you and stuff like that. And I feel like a lot of people have you on their shows to attack you and they don't give you a chance to actually like kind of flourish in the moment with you. And I'm sorry for that, for how people treat you like that. But also, people don't realize that you were at such a young age, having a child on television, losing the father of your child and having to go through this with the world watching you, with parents who didn't support and did not give you the proper guidance.

• 57:28Bunnie XO?

  And you are literally just figuring this shit out on your own.

• 57:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:33Bunnie XO?

  And that's heavy. And I just want you to say, I see you and I see what you're doing and I think you're doing wonderful.

• 57:38Speaker 03

  Oh, I love that. And thank you for seeing me. And I appreciate, I appreciate you being an amazing host.

• 57:44Bunnie XO?

  No, thank you.

• 57:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, allowing it to be whatever it will be.

• 57:48Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no, I appreciate that. Let's talk about love.

• 57:51Speaker 03

  Let's talk about love.

• 57:52Bunnie XO?

  Let's talk about love. You got a new boyfriend? Well, he's been around since what, 2021?

• 57:56Speaker 03

  No.

• 57:57Bunnie XO?

  No? I read that wrong then. Okay. Is that a different one?

• 58:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, maybe it was a different one.

• 58:03Bunnie XO?

  All right. Well, when did this one come about?

• 58:04Speaker 03

  I have to say, I date differently now. So I did this guardian of your soul, dating naked thing. I graduated from that when I turned 32. So last

• 58:14Bunnie XO?

  What? Okay, what is that? Is that part of the 12 step?

• 58:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. So Lisa Shield, who does this, she has her own amazing podcast, but she does this with her husband. You were there for 12 weeks. You have your own coach. You do your own like manifestation journal. She has 12 modules. You're reading books. You're hearing podcasts. You're hearing psychologists. Like you're in a vortex of train yourself to be like a weapon of dating, basically. And so I did it. I committed and I was like, you know, going on these dates. Feel like this is wasting my time. And I got this weird like dating show offer during that. And I declined because I've done so many dating shows and I just don't like, I

• 58:59Speaker 03

  was at this point of like, I'm tired of repeating, tired of repeating, like clearly something's disconnected. And it was more personal work and really diving in on that. And so Lisa did a 12 step program too. So when I shared about my 12 step program, she's like, yeah, so this is why we have 12 weeks, 12 modules, and we are focused on getting this alignment before your dating life. So I love it. I graduated and I was just like, look, I don't have anyone who I'll call my fiance or anything like that. But I'll keep doing this. And like, I'm kind of like a late bloomer, even though I like zoom through things. And so like, the

• 59:41Speaker 03

  leaders are like, well, keep checking in with us, keep coming to the groups, like whatever. And sure enough, like, I don't know, I went on. Almost like a hundred dates.

• 59:51Bunnie XO?

  And A hundred dates?

• 59:53Speaker 03

  Like almost a hundred dates.

• 59:54Bunnie XO?

  Goodness. That's like a speed dating.

• 59:56Speaker 03

  And then one, one gentleman, uh, wasn't even like on, I realized he was on one of my dating apps after the fact.

• 1:00:05Bunnie XO?

  But I feel like the cream of the crop is never on the dating apps.

• 1:00:09Speaker 03

  Or I'm just not paying attention to it, you know?

• 1:00:11Bunnie XO?

  Well, we're not attracting it.

• 1:00:12Speaker 03

  Even though, yeah, even though like we redo our online profiles and all this cool stuff.

• 1:00:17Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:00:18Speaker 03

  So, uh, he actually got my attention on my OnlyFans page.

• 1:00:22Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:00:23Speaker 03

  So, um, and then was like zooming with me and then I'm telling him about this dating program. Like I'm just intentionally dating. Like if you wanna joke around and be like, I wanna date Farrah Abraham, like whatever. But I was just like so on my game from this program about dating. So he ended up flying in to Austin to come see me. And we have just kind of been just, I don't know, he ended up getting a second house, a second car, a second everything and lives in Austin right now. Like, I don't know, it just is like magical.

• 1:00:56Bunnie XO?

  I love it. When, so when did he come in the picture?

• 1:00:59Speaker 03

  So we started talking in October. So like from June, July, August, September, like

• 1:01:07Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so since last year?

• 1:01:08Speaker 03

  Yeah. So five months after this program, I really have like superly connected with someone.

• 1:01:14Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:01:15Speaker 03

  Crazy.

• 1:01:16Bunnie XO?

  And he just loves every bit of you.

• 1:01:18Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:01:18Bunnie XO?

  Are you ever gonna say who he is or make him public?

• 1:01:21Speaker 03

  Um, you know, I, we both kind of were like NDAs on both sides. So like I can share fun bits and stuff, but we don't really like share who, who are me. Uh, like I am like, I will not be meeting your family and like,

• 1:01:35Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:01:35Speaker 03

  I'm dating you. And I think I've also learned to date differently from not having my family around and truly being my most best self. Um, so yeah, like he, I just love like, he is all about self-improvement with me. Um, we're doing fun things together all the time and I really just wanna make sure like, that's right. Like that's really important.

• 1:01:57Bunnie XO?

  So if you guys do end up getting more serious, will you eventually meet his family?

• 1:02:03Speaker 03

  Um, I don't really need to.

• 1:02:05Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 1:02:06Speaker 03

  Like, I'm really like.

• 1:02:07Bunnie XO?

  Do you think part of you is scared? Because like every you, I, I feel like you're one of those people who kind of like waits for the ball to drop. Like if something's going too good, you're like, okay, what's gonna fuck this up?

• 1:02:18Speaker 03

  Well, I'm trying to not have those brain patterns in my brain, but thank you. Um, so I just want the ball to keep rising and elevating. Um, hot air balloon. Let's keep going up. Um, and I do think, uh, from learning so much about him, like he's learned so much about my family, where I've come from. I think sometimes when you're building like a interdependent relationship where you're both coming together and rising up together. There is no need for the background noise. Like I'm not trying to attend a circus. He doesn't need to come to my circus. We just need to focus on going forth, building our own lives, building our own family.

• 1:02:58Speaker 03

  Um, like flourishing careers, the whole thing right now. And so that's why I'm kind of like. His, his parents and everyone are very like, why won't you tell me your name? Oh, like they're always very like nosey, but I think I don't need anyone like. Googling me, searching me when they know who I am, who I'm dating.

• 1:03:18Bunnie XO?

  Right. And that's what I mean. Like, uh, does that scare you? That his family could Google you and then just get the wrong opinion of you. And then you feel like you're gonna have to. Be trying to change these people's opinion about you.

• 1:03:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I just don't operate like that anymore. So like when my mom or my dad got married and I was there for their weddings and stuff. And then they were their fiancees or everyone else was always like Googling me and seeing what I was up to. I actually stopped like posting for a while. I was like, you know? It's just not worth it. I don't care what I'm up to or what I've been up to. Like if you can't be present with me and family. I don't need it. So I think that's all, I think that's why this relationship is flourishing so much. Is that I don't talk about it much with other people, um, from what I've been trained to do. We're very present, we're flourishing.

• 1:04:07Speaker 03

  And like we go on trips, we have fun. We're I I just want that for my life. I deserve an amazing relationship. And I saw like even bits of it when I was like saying I was in a relationship. People really wanted to ruin and find and source and break break me down. So like I don't have a relationship, but that's actually what I've been working so hard for for like two to three years is getting in this place. So and like with no one else's help, just me. And so I like really need this.

• 1:04:39Bunnie XO?

  Have you met him yet, Sophia? Yes, I have. Do you approve? He's okay.

• 1:04:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, like, it's not like a year in or anything. It's totally serious, but um Sophia and I met both of our boyfriends that we have now at the winter trip.

• 1:04:58Bunnie XO?

  Sophia, you have a boyfriend. Oh, we're gonna talk about this after.

• 1:05:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. Um, so yeah, we met together, our boyfriends together on our winter break trip this winter. So.

• 1:05:10Bunnie XO?

  What do you think about Sophia's boyfriend?

• 1:05:12Speaker 03

  You know, I can't really judge when the kids are, you know, fifteen, sixteen. I mean, wow, they have so so much to do and grow. Um, cause I was once there. So, yeah.

• 1:05:24Bunnie XO?

  Isn't it wild to think that she's pretty much the age that you got pregnant at?

• 1:05:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was saying that the other night. So her boyfriend actually flew into Austin, Texas, cause he lives in Utah for her birthday. And she's also homeschooled, which is like great. Um, so we had a great birthday weekend together. And I was like sitting at dinner with them after she like blew out her candles and everything. And I was like at fifteen. I was like on party buses with like twenty seven year olds.

• 1:05:55Bunnie XO?

  Isn't it wild how the opposite of us?

• 1:05:59Speaker 03

  I was like. This wild child and I was like, I am just so happy that Sophia is in like an amazing restaurant, has like all this stuff, has someone who like actually cares, you know, they're just building like a great friendship and and just quality, quality time, quality people that I kind of really, to be honest, did not have and it was just chaos and I was like, I am so fortunate to see this for my child. It's just crazy to me. I love it.

• 1:06:28Bunnie XO?

  I love it and I love watching Sophia smile at you when you talk about her. It's the cutest thing ever.

• 1:06:33Speaker 03

  It's just, I'm so happy for my daughter. She totally deserves this amazing journey that she's been blessed with. So God is good. Yeah.

• 1:06:41Bunnie XO?

  That. Where'd you meet your boyfriend at, Sophia?

• 1:06:44Speaker 04

  Um, I met him on VR.

• 1:06:49Bunnie XO?

  On what? Virtual reality?

• 1:06:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:52Bunnie XO?

  Is that like a video game or?

• 1:06:54Speaker 04

  Um, it's like those headsets, you know?

• 1:06:56Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 1:06:57Speaker 04

  With like the virtual games and stuff.

• 1:06:59Bunnie XO?

  Oh, gotcha. Okay.

• 1:07:00Speaker 04

  Um, specifically VR chat.

• 1:07:02Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha. Okay.

• 1:07:04Speaker 03

  Those kids are in VR chat. Watch out.

• 1:07:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's that's like AOL chat when we were growing up.

• 1:07:09Speaker 03

  Literally. So yeah, both of us met our boyfriends online, essentially.

• 1:07:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Well, I would think that being who you are, it's gotta be hard to meet people a normal way. It's not like you're just gonna go to church and meet somebody, you know? And I would think growing up with who your mom is, is probably makes it hard for you to meet people in a normal way also. And you don't go to school, so it's like, you know, you have to meet people where you are at, you know, in life. So how has your mom's um stardom affected you?

• 1:07:45Speaker 04

  Um, I mean, it's kind of been hard to make friends like in real life and stuff. Um.

• 1:07:53Speaker 04

  But I would say, once they accept, like, who I am online, then we become like best friends, you know?

• 1:08:00Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 1:08:00Speaker 04

  But some people, once they find out who I really am, they like, don't wanna, like, be friends with me.

• 1:08:05Bunnie XO?

  Oh, because of your mom.

• 1:08:07Speaker 04

  But, I mean, I don't really get hurt by that, because in the end, then you're just fake.

• 1:08:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:11Speaker 04

  So I just block them, you know?

• 1:08:14Bunnie XO?

  No, I love that. Uh, Bailey had to go through that too, whenever, you know, whenever we were first coming up in the limelight, there was a lot of parents who didn't want Bailey hanging out with her because of who her parents were. And I was just like, you don't need friends like that. If they have parents that are gonna judge them so harshly, that they won't let their kid hang out with you because of who their parents are, when they haven't even met us or shook our hands, then you don't want those people in your life anyways. Twelve celebrities, one don, and cold hard cash from the producers of Traitors, comes The Mob, a new Hulu original series, now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus. In this unique new reality competition show hosted by the iconic Parker Posey, what up,

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• 1:10:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, so it is kind of fun. I mean, I've been seeing Sophia, uh, kind of like catfish people.

• 1:10:31Bunnie XO?

  What do you mean?

• 1:10:32Speaker 04

  It's not catfishing, okay? I have, it's called secret accounts.

• 1:10:36Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:10:37Bunnie XO?

  Oh, they're called, uh, finstas, right? Or isn't that what they're, what they're?

• 1:10:41Speaker 04

  I mean, it's basically like all accounts, you know?

• 1:10:44Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 1:10:45Speaker 04

  Like, I don't use my public profiles or my real name.

• 1:10:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:49Speaker 04

  On stuff. Like, my friends know my first name.

• 1:10:52Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:10:52Speaker 04

  But like, I usually don't tell them my last name.

• 1:10:55Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:10:55Speaker 04

  Until they find out who like I really am.

• 1:10:57Speaker 03

  Like, for instance.

• 1:10:58Bunnie XO?

  But that's actually kind of smart.

• 1:11:00Speaker 03

  That is smart. Like, like, we have this show like called Catfish, right? But I have to say, like, Sophia's doing it in a catfish positive way, not a toxic way.

• 1:11:10Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:11:11Speaker 03

  Because, like, for instance, like, we flew into Utah so that her and her boyfriend could meet. They do know each other's names. It's kind of up in the air on the first, the first date, which was at a trampoline park.

• 1:11:25Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:11:25Speaker 03

  And everyone brought their families. And so I loved how refreshing it was, actually. I was refreshed by his mom, his family, not knowing who I was, just taking me in like a glass of water, just having a good time.

• 1:11:45Bunnie XO?

  Just loving you for who you were in that moment.

• 1:11:47Speaker 03

  And also the same for Sophia. And then her daughter arrives and she knew exactly who I was and everything else. And then it was like, hmm, like, it just kind of sucks the fun out of just being present in real life.

• 1:12:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:02Speaker 03

  Um, but yeah, I really loved like how we've gotten to know each other, even though you could definitely see.

• 1:12:11Speaker 03

  They are definitely affected by someone's fame, what they might, might not have, how we live. And that's sad. And so I just say, whatever Sophia needs to do to see positive and have positive interactions and relationships, that's awesome. I support it, even if it's a little catfishy. I'm okay with it.

• 1:12:35Bunnie XO?

  All right. Because I see the joy. I kinda understand the method to the madness, though. She wants to make sure that the people that are in her life are there for a reason, not because of who you are, because of who she is. So I think it's actually kind of genius.

• 1:12:46Speaker 03

  It is genius.

• 1:12:47Bunnie XO?

  I like it. When's your birthday?

• 1:12:49Speaker 04

  Uh, February 23rd.

• 1:12:50Bunnie XO?

  Oh, you're a Pisces. Well, you're like an Aquarius Pisces. You're like right on the cusp.

• 1:12:54Speaker 03

  Oh, really? Really? I don't know. Well, she likes to swim.

• 1:12:57Bunnie XO?

  Ah, yeah, she's a little fishy.

• 1:12:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, a Gothic swimmer.

• 1:13:02Bunnie XO?

  Little black fish swimming in the pond.

• 1:13:04Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:13:05Bunnie XO?

  Can we talk about your beef with Nicki Minaj? What happened with that whole situation?

• 1:13:10Speaker 03

  She's not a Barbie.

• 1:13:15Bunnie XO?

  Cause I feel like she kinda called you out and brought that on herself. And I feel like...

• 1:13:19Speaker 03

  A lot of people bring things upon themselves in my career, but yes.

• 1:13:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I feel like she's doing that now to make the stallion also. And I think people didn't, people didn't take her, her, people didn't consider it bullying whenever she did it to you because it was a few years ago. But now that they're seeing a pattern and how she treats people, I think it kind of, you know, is putting a spotlight on how she acts as a person.

• 1:13:44Speaker 03

  I have to say, like, Nicki Minaj, I believe she said, like, I was a cunt because of how I treated my mom. She was watching like a Teen Mom rerun one day when she was doing that.

• 1:13:54Speaker 03

  I have to say, anyone who talks to me or towards anyone, bullying them out loud, doing whatever they're doing. Not paying attention to their own mental health and why she's doing that. The reason why someone reaches out in a toxic way, calls someone another name, tries to degrade them, acts like they know how to be a better daughter to their mom or whatever. That is a denial. They're delusional. So I have never thought greatly of anyone similar to Nicki Minaj, like a Chrissy Teigen, who also does that to me, or other people who do that, or women who do that. It also very much reminds me a little bit of the toxicity between my mom, my sister, my grandma, towards me growing up.

• 1:14:40Bunnie XO?

  So it's a trigger for you?

• 1:14:42Speaker 03

  You know, I just recognize it as complete mental illness almost, um, to be honest. So I don't think, uh, my daughter has anything to worry about of like, listening, paying attention to anything, uh, from women who have like a platform and they're just like lashing out in mental illness. Because that's not having self-control, that's not therapeutically dealing with it. Um, she also wasn't a mom. I don't really think Nicki Minaj is a great mom. I don't think she really has done the personal work. She's married, I think, like a convict, who I guess is like, done very weird things.

• 1:15:21Speaker 03

  Um, so I can't really care about anyone who, that comes from, that's like caring about a hater online, who says the same things. Whether it was Nicki Minaj, or a deep fake account online saying it, it's going to the same place of like, ooh, that's unhealthy for my mental health. That's like mental illness coming at me. I don't have time for that toxicity. So, and I'm sorry that Megan Thee Stallion had to go through all sorts of stuff and criminal behavior, uh, but she doesn't deserve that in her present success, or her future success. And I really hope that she finds other great artists to work with and have friendships with.

• 1:15:59Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely. How do you deal with all of the online stuff that comes to you? Are you used to it now? Or, I don't think anybody ever gets used to people just bullying, but does it hurt still? Or did it, did it ever hurt you, like in the beginning? And how do you deal with it now?

• 1:16:15Speaker 03

  I definitely had a shame spiral many a times with online toxicity. And I think that's why I am totally cool with Sophia not being on it, uh, not posting as much, not doing whatever. Because it's really not needed.

• 1:16:31Bunnie XO?

  It's not a safe space.

• 1:16:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's not a safe space. And I think we just tried to, again, pardon me, create that safe space for us, our own selves. So if that's like posting once a year, that's what's good for us. Um, like, and I don't even know, like, this whole thing with, like, limiting teenagers on social media, I think in a way, it feels like we're letting like criminals and deep fakes and all these things control and take over and oversaturate the internet when the internet would be so much more better with, like, credible, real people who enjoy the internet. So I just wish I had better people to play with on the internet.

• 1:17:17Bunnie XO?

  But the, the internet has hurt you before to where it sent you into shame. What did you say?

• 1:17:23Speaker 03

  Like definite, like depression or maybe anxiety at times and

• 1:17:29Bunnie XO?

  It's gotta be heavy, especially when they run like news articles about you and stuff like that.

• 1:17:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, I

• 1:17:34Bunnie XO?

  Do you feel like the press bullies you?

• 1:17:35Speaker 03

  I feel, I feel like we need to work on, um, just reporting in a non-bullish, fraudulent way. Um, like when I've been dealing, you know, like when I was like attacked at dinner by security and then everyone acts like I did something to them and I have reporters calling me everywhere and they're making me up to be a bad person. My lawyer, lawyers were literally like, you cannot talk to them anymore. If they wanna behave this way, if they can't tell the right news, I'm not responding to them. Do not respond to them. And that's just kind of sad because again, like just kind of being raised with news reporters and even some of them being my friends.

• 1:18:21Speaker 03

  I it's just been really sad to see like people use their jobs and inflict toxicity and affect someone's mental health, or it could. I'm not letting that happen, but it definitely does to other people.

• 1:18:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. I couldn't agree more. I think online is um, kind of like the devil's playground, you know, like people can say and do whatever the hell they want and there's no recourse.

• 1:18:46Speaker 03

  Well, I feel like the good people uh get the recourse, like they actually get like, I can't even get on TikTok live because someone said it was like sexually explicit, sitting in my office doing nothing.

• 1:18:57Bunnie XO?

  Did you appeal it?

• 1:18:59Speaker 03

  Oh, I've appealed it. My agencies have reached out. They say that they don't have footage. They can't see it, so they can't redo it. I just feel like, or undo it. I feel like internet platforms are just crumbling. Period. Like they're crumbling, they're not doing that well. They're relying so heavily on marketing. They don't care to keep health, number one, even though we're giving all of these things like healthy mindset and track your time and do all this. But we just keep allowing again, like deep fakes, toxicity, everything nonstop. Um, so like if I go and look on my dashboard right now,

• 1:19:42Speaker 03

  you'll see like my account on the back end flagged all the time for bullying. But are we deleting or blocking those bullies?

• 1:19:50Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:19:50Speaker 03

  So I just, I let the

• 1:19:52Bunnie XO?

  There's no solution to the problem.

• 1:19:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, I just let the internet crumble. And I like to use it um to post, to share things, uh whether that's about mental health or something fun or birthdays or whatever, but I don't know. I maybe just one day. Who knows if I need any of it. I really don't know if I need social media.

• 1:20:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I don't think you do. I think you've made a name for yourself that if you didn't have social media, people would still you know, be obsessed with you because that's just how they are. I have read mixed reviews. Have, did you sell poop or did you not sell poop?

• 1:20:29Speaker 03

  Oh my god, that's so funny. I sell my poop slime in my office. I made poop slime and we sold out of that. But yeah, it's crazy. I don't know why people are obsessed with poop. Um, I have never sold my poop. I do get offers literally every day, every day for it. And it's crazy. Like my boyfriend's like, you, he's like, I find, like I just, it's like, I find it so disgusting. But he's like, you have all these guys just wanting to pay you like $5,000 for you to send them shit. And he's like, I can't even pick up your own dog shit. Like, he's like, I don't know how this is.

• 1:21:12Bunnie XO?

  They waft in it. It's crazy. I used to sell my panties when I had OF.

• 1:21:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:21:17Bunnie XO?

  They, they like vacuum sealed and sitting for like two weeks. Like it's wild.

• 1:21:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. So, um, yeah, I don't know, but I, I haven't done that, but I, I don't know. I heard it was like against the law. So I just don't do that.

• 1:21:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Um, how, what's the weirdest request you have gotten on your OnlyFans?

• 1:21:37Speaker 03

  Um, I mean, what's weird anymore?

• 1:21:42Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:21:42Speaker 03

  I don't know. There's so many weird.

• 1:21:43Bunnie XO?

  What's the oddest or you know, wildest?

• 1:21:46Speaker 03

  There's so many weird things I hear, uh, every day.

• 1:21:51Speaker 03

  I just don't know what's odd right now. I don't know. I have to like think so much, but, um,

• 1:21:59Speaker 03

  I don't know. I just find it weird when people really want to like have customs and like, they always try to like get in my personal life. So it's like your boyfriend or like, could you ask for a friend to do the, I just am like, why would you even get on here? And, and like insinuate, I would ask anyone else to be a part of your crazy imagination. Um, so.

• 1:22:25Bunnie XO?

  How is your OF doing? How is your OF doing? Is it?

• 1:22:28Speaker 03

  Um, my OF is doing fabulous and I love my OF. I can't, I like, I often ask myself, when I think to just shutting it down, um,

• 1:22:40Speaker 03

  Cause I I felt like I was getting so sexually shamed. Um, and I just don't like dealing with any like sexual shaming stuff. And so I was like, maybe I'll shut it down. Maybe I won't. And then I keep it up and I often like, sometimes I'll just post some funny comments that I get. But I often like, there's a lot of negativity online. But I will say OF is a lot of positivity compared to all the negativity.

• 1:23:06Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I loved my OF. I have, it was great. If you're a hater on somebody's OF, you've got fucking problems.

• 1:23:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:12Bunnie XO?

  You're paying them monthly to talk shit to them.

• 1:23:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's crazy and that happens all the time. But there's a lot of men who, or women even, who always send me like the best messages. And I'm like, God, I needed that for my self-worth today, or like my self-compassion, or like just loving myself today. So I have to say, if that's so positive out of all the other social medias. I've kept my OnlyFans. I, and I think maybe I even rave about it sometimes. I'm like, I can't delete this. It makes me so happy.

• 1:23:46Bunnie XO?

  And you shouldn't have to delete it. If it does bring you happiness and joy and as well as monetary value. Why would you delete it? Because people online don't agree with the lifestyle? I've never understood that, that stigma with OF. It's wild to me that we're not touching anybody. Nobody is touching us. There's no bodily fluid exchange. It's literally all online consenting adults. And people have a problem with that. Would they rather you be in hotel rooms? You know, being an escort? Like, it's wild to me.

• 1:24:14Speaker 03

  So I, yeah, I just, I think OnlyFans has just, again, been positive for my mental health. Positive for me. Um, I don't know, like I literally screen grab and save some of these messages. Cause I was like, if I ever just goodbye from it. I would love to save these memories because they're such good memories. I mean. I don't know, like, my boyfriend doesn't have a problem with it. So, and honestly, I think he, he actually likes it. So like, he makes his like own little funny username and he's like, oh, chat with me on there. It's just kind of like a fun play thing.

• 1:24:50Bunnie XO?

  Role play.

• 1:24:51Speaker 03

  Honestly, if that's good for my relationship, if it's good for my business, if it's good for me, I'm like, God, could, could life get any greater? And I think I do have that need because I had managers and agents, basically like, be like, I'll run it, I'll start it, I'll do it, like, you have to do this. And I didn't even do it myself, open it. So, um, I think because it was like a different journey and that, and again, like I am a sex symbol, like I am something in that arena. And I think you can't disown that or act like it's not. Um, and so.

• 1:25:31Bunnie XO?

  Well, you had a sex tape that came out.

• 1:25:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, and a lot of, you know, then I had a novelty line from that odd, traumatic, successful experience of a tape situation. I was like, you know what, for like sexual health and wellbeing, I want to come out with a men's and women's line of novelty toys. And I also won an AVN award for that. So I've, like, those are things that happened in my life journey.

• 1:25:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:59Speaker 03

  And I'm happy they were successful. And I think to do that justice, you know, to have some of those adult platform pages, that's, that's a no brainer in that, you know, journey. So I'm fine with it and it makes me happy.

• 1:26:14Bunnie XO?

  How much did you end up making off of that sex tape?

• 1:26:18Speaker 03

  I don't know, I still make money off of it.

• 1:26:20Bunnie XO?

  She's like, it hasn't stopped, baby.

• 1:26:22Speaker 03

  No, it hasn't stopped. And I also made, you know, millions from my novelty toys, those licenses. I actually just enjoy business. Like a lot of people, and I love my friends who are all into adult entertainment, that was not my. Allure, that's not like my thing, um, but I do like business in certain senses of my comfort level. Um, so yeah.

• 1:26:51Bunnie XO?

  You like multiple streams of income.

• 1:26:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, who doesn't?

• 1:26:54Bunnie XO?

  Right, right. Preach this stuff.

• 1:26:57Speaker 03

  So, yeah, I have my own way of how I live, you know, my sex life and my choices and me as a woman. And I'm just really happy, like happier than I've ever been. So I think whatever happened in my life along the way, I was meant to be, even though it was like not the greatest thing. Um, but yeah, it can certainly get you predators. It can certainly lead to like sexual assaults and those things. So I just want other women or even my own child, my own daughter to know like there's nothing to glorify about anything of what I went through or what I've done.

• 1:27:37Speaker 03

  I literally look at my sex tape and I see someone who is battling face dysmorphia, who feels so unloved, who is like going through just like bereavement of the loss of her dad. And so when I see a sex tape, I see something so of nothing I want ever in my life again. But I have people every day who bring up my sex tape or like the toys that I made and it brings them joy. And so I have to really take myself away from that. But I do love that. It's helped me become aware that I needed to do personal and mental help and health on myself, for sure.

• 1:28:18Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 1:28:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:20Bunnie XO?

  What does twenty twenty four hold for Farrah and Sophia? What do you guys want?

• 1:28:24Speaker 03

  Lots of laughs.

• 1:28:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:26Speaker 03

  Um, laughing a bunch this year, traveling, having fun. Sophia's working on whatever she wants to write, create and make.

• 1:28:34Bunnie XO?

  Are you guys gonna do a song together?

• 1:28:36Speaker 03

  Well, we have.

• 1:28:37Bunnie XO?

  Ah, I love it.

• 1:28:39Speaker 04

  No, thank you.

• 1:28:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, Sophia has to know.

• 1:28:41Speaker 04

  She does not know how to sing.

• 1:28:42Speaker 03

  I don't know how to sing. And that's okay. For some reason, I have a cult following of people who loved my music when I was depressed. So again, like some people love your stuff when you're depressed and going through like a mental breakdown. So I love

• 1:28:56Bunnie XO?

  Well, I think it's relatable. I feel like people feel like they're like, fuck, I'm going through it too. You know, like this is relatable. That's why people relate to my husband because of the music he makes, you know?

• 1:29:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's crazy. However, you will enjoy someone's music or whatever. So yeah, Sophia is gonna go on her own journey of Gothic music.

• 1:29:17Speaker 03

  See how people relate to that and have fun and write. So yeah, I mean, every, every year is about creating something new and finding more of ourselves. So I think that's what we kind of are doing. Um, besides shows and besides stuff that I'm already doing. I'm just like back to school again.

• 1:29:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. So are we gonna get that law? He's over here sawing logs. I'm over here shaking his head. Um, so are you gonna, are you gonna move forward to getting your law degree?

• 1:29:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm moving forward with, I'm in a master's program right now and you can start doing like your JD and even your PhD. So I'm just going all the way. I'm getting my PhD, but I'm going through the masters, almost done with that at the end of this year. And then doing law the next year and everything like that. So I feel like as much as I've spent in legal fees and everything, I should already have the law degree.

• 1:30:09Bunnie XO?

  You should be your own lawyer, Farrah, at this point.

• 1:30:12Speaker 03

  I keep learning new things every day though. So, um, yeah, there's a lot going on in 2024. I can't wait till it's actually done, but I'm excited for it.

• 1:30:20Bunnie XO?

  I love that. And I love watching you guys grow and flourish together. And I think it's amazing. And I just want you guys to stay on this journey. I love that you're the happiest you've ever been. That makes me happy for you. Cause happiness is hard to come by, man. You have to choose happiness.

• 1:30:34Speaker 03

  Yeah. Go mom and daughter teams.

• 1:30:35Bunnie XO?

  Let's go. Thank you guys for coming on the podcast. I really appreciate it.

• 1:30:40Speaker 03

  Thanks for having us.

• 1:30:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, awesome. Thank you guys for tuning into another episode of Done Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.

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