TBT: Bam Margera

This week, legendary skateboarder and Jackass star Bam Margera gets candid about battling addiction and embracing sobriety. He opens up about the "Florida Shuffle" he endured in rehab, as well as the legal battles we've both seen and not seen reported in the news. Bam also reflects on life after skyrocketing to fame with Jackass in the early 2000s. Joining Bam for the raw conversation is his model fiancée Dannii Marie, to share her own perspective on their chance meeting in LA and travels across the country together that have brought them to this new chapter. Bam Margera: IG https://www.instagram.com/bam__margera/?hl=en Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Bunnie XO?

  Hey guys, I need to ask you a question. I want to know, why in the hell are you not on Patreon? I don't think you guys even realize how much content we have on Patreon. Let me break it down for you. We have the Bunny XO Show, we have Meet the D-Fords, we have Popaganda, we have a cooking show that's coming, we have more shows that we're adding, and not to mention, we have the visuals of the podcast. Not only that, we have four tiers that caters to everybody's budget, and everybody gets the podcast. There's no more excuses. Stop listening right now and head over to www.patreon.com/dumbblondpodcast and sign up. Stop missing out. We have built a huge community over there, guys. I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of people over there.

• 0:45Bunnie XO?

  We even have live chats, live chats that I actually am talking in every single night. I'm in there just confessing all of my sins to you guys. I mean, it gets a little ridiculous. Last but not least, we give away gifts every frickin' month. I'm talking like signed stuff from Jay and I lives. You just never know what kind of surprise you're gonna get. It's like a Cracker Jack box. I love the community that we've built over there at Patreon. If you are already a Patreon member, I freaking love you, dude. Thank you so much. From my sideshow tier, to the carnival tier, to the ringleader tier, to the main attraction, you guys are my babies for life, my writers. If I could, I would literally make out with each and every one of you. I love you guys so much, and that's a lot of kisses, actually. Got to go bye.

• 1:30Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on?

• 1:31Speaker 01

  Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.

• 1:36Bunnie XO?

  Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit, and I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money, and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child, and here we are.

• 1:46Bunnie XO?

  What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, we have the one, the only Bam Margera and his girlfriend, Danny Marie. What's up, guys? What up? I know, so excited to be here. I think she says the F-bomb more than me. I do. I am constantly cussing. People get so mad at me. They're like, why do you say fuck? I said, because intelligent people cuss. It's what we do.

• 2:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love it. It's like my favorite word. When I heard your first podcast, I'm like, oh, this is gonna be fun. I don't have to think before I say that word.

• 2:15Bunnie XO?

  I love that. What have you guys been up to, Bam? What have you guys been doing?

• 2:19Speaker 03

  We've actually been on the road. Um, we met eight months ago and about six of the months, we've been all over the place. Texas, New Mexico, Florida, South Carolina, Indiana, made our way down here. Um, and, uh, we've just been enjoying the road trip. We have two dogs and, uh, and soon we'll be making our way to California, but we have been booking a lot of Comic Cons and Horror Cons just because, um, you know, we've been doing so well at them and I've been in treatment for the longest Florida shuffle. You could call the Guinness Book because it was like two and a half years at $660,000.

• 2:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, we're gonna get into that later because I did, I did research a little bit of that and I'm, I'm telling you right now, I preach it on my podcast nonstop. The mental health system in America is fucking broken.

• 3:05Speaker 02

  Wax. Like, especially in Florida.

• 3:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's so bad. I want to let everybody know at home that since you've walked in here, you've literally had like a smile on your face. And that makes me happy because, you know.

• 3:16Speaker 03

  Why wouldn't I? Look at this eye candy.

• 3:18Bunnie XO?

  Dude, she's, I was, when you were, I was hitting on her when you walked out. I was like, hey, baby, you are fine, girl.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  Fine girls in here.

• 3:24Bunnie XO?

  Oh, you manifested her though. I heard on an interview that you manifested her. Tell me about that.

• 3:30Speaker 03

  Well, I was pretty much, I checked into the Sunset Marquis in, in Los Angeles, right on, uh, Hollywood Boulevard. I was just over everything. I'm, I have five lawsuits, a custody battle that is never ending. I'm just spending all my money on that. I just got three of my credit cards stolen and they all racked up 20 grand on each one. The last one was a stripper from, from Spearmint Rhino who racked up 20 grand at a nightclub at one night. How do you do that? That means every valet, don't know those guys, but I'll pay for them. Uh, don't know that crew, but I'll pay for their bottle service. How? 20 grand in one night at one nightclub? Come on.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  I worked at a strip club, so that's very easy as a bartender. You can get all your girlfriend's drinks and there, there's the 20K.

• 4:13Speaker 03

  So, so when I checked in, I, I got a whole bunch of drugs and I was like, I, I really just don't even care to wake up. And if I do, F you, God. So the next morning I'm like, man, I'm awake. Fuck. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go to the pool bar. You better, God, you better deliver me the hottest eye candy. I want a tan pitbull and eight cup tits. Because because my prior girlfriends, I they always talk me into buying these fake boobs and they were always rocks. And they always say that they'll settle down within a year and then three years goes by. I'm like, they're still rocks.

• 4:48Bunnie XO?

  They didn't massage them properly.

• 4:51Speaker 03

  So, um, when I went to the pool bar, I ordered a drink, of course, and I overhear somebody talking. Listen, I'm forty three years old. I was born in Jersey. I'm Sicilian and Irish. I'm like, and I look over like, wow, who's Sicilian Irish? I'm Sicilian Irish. I was born in Philly over the bridge. Who are you? She's like, I'm a stretch coach. I'm like, and she's like, I have to go home and walk my dogs. I'm like, what kind of dog? A tan pit bull. I'm like, thank you, God. I've been saved and I was on a mission.

• 5:18Speaker 03

  And, and you know, the doctor told me in two thousand thirteen that my legs were like dry rotted rubber bands from alcohol abuse. And he was pretty much like, good luck trying to skateboard again, which is what my passion was. I've been pro since I was seventeen. And, um, because of that, it just made me drink more. So when I met her, she's like, don't listen to him at all. I stretch you an hour a day and you're gonna get your legs back. And sure enough, they're like a hundred percent again. Every day, first thing, first thing we do is stretch, walk the dogs, and then I'm out looking for a skate spot.

• 5:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's what I heard. What was your first impression of of this hot mess over here?

• 5:50Speaker 02

  We were actually looking at photos today. I don't even, I mean, I don't, I mean, it's so hard to even say how it connected. But it was, I was invited by somebody who I didn't really know, but it was the Hollywood scene, you know? And later found out wasn't the best crowd, but I showed up by myself. My friend Heather, call her out. She couldn't make it that day, but that's okay. I went alone and, um, you know, I didn't know anybody. And she sent me this text that was like, celebrities are here. I hate that, of course. But my mom's like, well, I'm literally fighting myself because I lived in Koreatown. Couldn't find parking. It was a disaster. So to leave your house in Koreatown is a big deal. You have to take an Uber. It's just a nightmare.

• 6:30Bunnie XO?

  Fucking LA is a nightmare, dude.

• 6:31Speaker 02

  So I'm like, is it really worth going? Like, she's already dropped a celebrity name. Like, who knows if, whatever. So my mom's like, well, You didn't go to LA to stay in bed, blah, blah, blah. So she put a little I like mom. cracker in my ass. Yeah. So I got dressed, put on my little LA hat and then I went to the pool party and of course, how some girls can be, they weren't, you know, being very friendly. Once this one and I started talking, I do remember him kind of coming over, but I was alone, blindfolded and just wasn't really wanting to date at the time. I just got out of something really shitty. Did you know who he was? I remember like, they were like Bam Margera's here. I'm like Bam, I'm like, you know, they're like, oh, jackass. Like, okay. But we're, are the same age. So it wasn't like I was really watching it every day. Like, Right. I hate to bring up ridiculousness, but how it's like constantly on the TV, you know,

• 7:16Speaker 02

  like you can't get away from it. So I knew, but I didn't really know, you know, the whole Story. hype of fam. Right. So when we, when we interacted, um, you know, uh, the girls, as they know who they are, had kind of like pushed me towards him because they weren't being bullyish, but they weren't being friendly because the one girl had taken a shower with him the day before. Oh. So. Did you even remember that Bam?

• 7:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, I did.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  Okay. Cause he was fucked up. So you gotta ask. Cause he pretty was. I did a lot of shit when I was fucked up that I don't remember, you know? So basically they just. His face is turning three shades of red right now. I don't think I've ever seen you blush. He admitted it. I mean, he, at least he told me and I'm like, okay, well, are y'all like dating? Because I'm single. It's LA, like whatever. And I just, we just had fun. Like we ended up going, I can't even tell you where. Um, it was just some little place in LA. It was like a strip club of some sort that was completely packed. Were you using then or were you sober? No, I haven't. Okay. So we'll get into all that, but I was a drinker. I mean, I've had my share of things. I've been a model since I was 14, so I've definitely partied, lived in Vegas,

• 8:20Speaker 02

  lived in LA. Um, but for me, I won Miss Pekin. I went through, okay, so 2019, I had an ankle surgery, which was mortifying. I lost my 14 year old dog and then a 10 year, almost 10 year relationship ended all within like a year. So I went through a really bad time. I was drinking a little too much, started drinking more. And then, you know, I started getting sick, like literally sick and in the hospital. I was getting alcohol poisoning is what was happening. And I just didn't want to tell anybody that I knew when I was throwing up what was happening.

• 8:47Bunnie XO?

  Cause you're like binge drinking.

• 8:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was just like, you know, rosé starts at 10 a.m. And then before you know it, it's eight o'clock at night. And you know, it's just.

• 8:54Bunnie XO?

  Sounds like a good time.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, bad. Just I was going down a bad, bad path. I was getting, after the breakup, I hung out with the wrong guy. He was younger than me and I started doing bad things again and then just really nipped it in the butt and just had to break up with a lot of people. So I ended up entering a bikini contest and didn't realize how intense it was. But I was already in it. I couldn't pull out. I wanted to because it was like, I'd rather just have another cocktail and go whatever. So um, I ended up placing fifth and I stayed serious that whole like four months of training for the bikini. So once I started to get away from the alcohol, I just quit completely. So I really haven't been drinking since 2021. But when I went out to LA, it was like a couple of drinks here and there, but then I'd,

• 9:37Speaker 02

  you know, you're not drinking, a couple of drinks will get you buzzed. So that was the day like I was in a F it mood, fuck it mood, whatever. So I was drinking at the pool that day and we had a great time. The connection was obviously there because as a person, you know, and alcohol helped me kiss him a little bit, you know, a little make out bandit. We were FaceTiming Jessica.

• 9:57Speaker 03

  She still committed to the gym at 5 a.m. The next day, dropped a 40 pound weight on her till it broke that joint.

• 10:02Bunnie XO?

  Oh my god.

• 10:03Speaker 02

  I like shattered the toe and then I wake up the next day and I'm like, damn, I think I made out with Bam. Like I woke up, like the dogs are like, where were you for seven hours? So I woke up, yeah, feeling rough. And then I just, I remember like wanting him to call. Like I really wanted him to call and I was like, oh, it's already four o'clock. He hasn't called yet. That's weird. So something inside told me to take a shower, which I did. And I'm laying in Koreatown and of course the phone rings and he's like,

• 10:28Speaker 03

  Not from my phone because the stripper stole it as well as my credit card. So I called randomly from a number that had South Carolina area code, which is where she's from.

• 10:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, I grew up in Charleston, so it would be 843. I'm like, where are you?

• 10:41Bunnie XO?

  Poor Bam. Bam got his, his card stolen, his phone stolen.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  He was in hot mess that weekend.

• 10:47Speaker 03

  Know this, but then I I saw this um psychic lady who basically told me to be a yes man to say yes to everything. So I'm going to see my.

• 10:58Bunnie XO?

  Oh, that's not, don't tell Bam that.

• 11:00Speaker 03

  I pull in with, with, I pull in with the Bentley to this gas station in Vista, California. Cause my phone died and I didn't know how to get to his house. So I had to charge it in, in the gas station. So as soon as I pull up these M 13 gangsters with their tattoos, face and everything, they go, yo, you banned from Jackass? I'm like, yeah, they're like, can we get a photo? I'm like, yes. And they're like, can we sit in your car and get a photo? I'm like, yes. They're like, yo, man, this thing must be fast. Can we go around the block and, and whatever? I'm like, yes. So then we go around the block and we're cracking jokes.

• 11:27Bunnie XO?

  I do not know this.

• 11:28Speaker 03

  I park at the gas station, knowing that my phone's still charging and I'm like, hang on guys. I leave the car running. I'm like, I gotta go get my phone. They're like, all right, cool. So I go in and I'm like, hey ma'am, could I get my phone? They're like, she's like, I gave it to your friend. I'm like, what friend? I'm from Pennsylvania. I don't have any friends here. She's like, well, I gave it to somebody, but you gave my phone away? I was forced to call 911. So three cop cars pull up and I guess they were all larried up on whatever, but they thought it was for them. So they took my car as the police show up, not knowing that it's for me and my phone. It had nothing to do with them. This guy just got out of jail for five years for guns and drugs. And apparently he had guns and drugs on him. So he took my car. I walk out, there's three helicopters in the sky and I hear from Officer Bentley. I'll never forget.

• 12:11Speaker 03

  Bentley's been crashed in the house. I'm like, awesome. And I didn't want to press charges because I don't need these guys after me. I, I tagged him. I'm at the Vista skate park. Next thing you know, I'm getting, getting drive by shootings. So ate the cash on that as well.

• 12:24Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I had no idea about that. So. Why does, why does, why do you think this shit happens to you all the time, Bam?

• 12:31Speaker 03

  Because I listened to a lady to say yes to everything that day.

• 12:35Bunnie XO?

  There has to be some level of discernment in your gut though. You gotta be like, no, maybe I shouldn't be riding around with these guys. I don't understand that one.

• 12:44Speaker 03

  It was just like she just said it. So the first thing that just say yes to everything. Yo Bam, can we get a photo? Yes.

• 12:49Bunnie XO?

  What was her point in this? I would love to talk to her and just be like, what was your point? Why? Do you think telling Bam Margera to say yes?

• 12:56Speaker 03

  She's one of the ones who spent 20 grand on my card.

• 13:00Bunnie XO?

  Oh my gosh. Was she a stripper psychic?

• 13:03Speaker 03

  No, she was a psychic. And then the stripper was next and then a buddy.

• 13:06Bunnie XO?

  Was the psychic in the strip club?

• 13:07Speaker 03

  He had a tiny bill. No, it was not.

• 13:10Bunnie XO?

  Totally unrelated.

• 13:12Speaker 03

  My buddy was recording at Sun Studios in Memphis at Elvis's place and he had a small bill to pay like three grand. So I gave him my credit card information because the label was gonna pay it back. He gets so drunk that night that he spends 20 grand on sunglasses and jackets on my card and doesn't remember doing it.

• 13:28Bunnie XO?

  It sounds like you're surrounded by a lot of people.

• 13:31Speaker 03

  And he's so broke. I think he has a payment plan of like $50 a month, which will take eternity to pay off.

• 13:38Speaker 02

  Well, that's why you're attracted to Bam because Bam is funny all of the time. So it's never a dull moment with with him. And it was like that, you know, people always, you know, he's when he's not drinking anymore, but he's just elevated and it's just funnier. Not that we want him drinking, but he's not like a bad drunk. I mean, he's fun. He just gets funnier.

• 13:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  So that's where the attraction definitely happened. I mean, who doesn't love a guy or a girl or whomever you're with?

• 14:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that makes you smile. Oh, I love funny guys. That's why I married my husband.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. So like he just, I just, we died rolling all night long. And I just remember like really wanted him to call the next day. And then once he called and said, do you want to go for pizza at the Rainbow Room? I'm like, the Rainbow Room has pizza? He's like, it's the best pizza.

• 14:19Bunnie XO?

  Jay's favorite fucking place. So forever in LA, I'll call you guys. Because Jay, last time for the Grammys, he went and ruined it out the Rainbow Room. And got shitfaced and then swam in the pool or swam in the fucking fountain at the fucking Beverly Hills, whatever the fuck we were at.

• 14:34Speaker 03

  So, so on our first date, I was, I really wanted to know, but I was just doing small talk, you know? I'm like, I just gotta know, how are your teeth so perfectly white? She's like, because I brushed my teeth with your dick. I'm like, fuck it, bro. I love you.

• 14:46Speaker 02

  That was after he had tortured me in a funny way for two days.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  I know how to handle somebody like you and your fucking.

• 14:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was like, I can keep up with you. So it was cute. It was just like the Rainbow Room pizza. And then honestly, Bunny, like it just, I never left.

• 14:59Bunnie XO?

  That's how it happens. That's how Jay and I were. Once you meet that soul partner, that soul connection, it's just like, it's like fireworks and you, you guys are just together.

• 15:07Speaker 03

  Well, I was in my turmoil of being over it. I was ready to just check out. I didn't care unless, unless I. I knew she was the runaway and I asked what happened to her. She's like, I had to flee the scene in Miami. I was dating a professional baseball player who was very abusive and I just packed up the dogs and I just hit the road and LA was my destination. And um, you know, he saw a photo of like us and Us Weekly holding hands in a little tablet thing with a purple dress on. He's like, I'm coming out there. I'm gonna find you and like hunt you down. And this, I, I believe that he died of a fentanyl overdose in Texas on the way here.

• 15:40Bunnie XO?

  Oh my gosh.

• 15:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, so she just knew that if she stayed in that relationship, it was not gonna end well.

• 15:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, he wasn't a good guy.

• 15:45Bunnie XO?

  How long were you guys together for?

• 15:47Speaker 02

  It was, it was, you know what, if we ever write a book, it'll just be the booty call gone bad.

• 15:51Bunnie XO?

  Oh, fuck, that's the worst.

• 15:53Speaker 02

  It was like the first guy I slept with in nine years. So it was just like.

• 15:56Bunnie XO?

  Wait, you didn't have dick for nine years?

• 15:58Speaker 02

  Well, I was with somebody for nine years.

• 15:59Bunnie XO?

  Oh, okay, gotcha, gotcha. Okay, I was like, wait a second. How did that work?

• 16:02Speaker 02

  But he was like the first after the la- after the ex. So it was just, you know, he was a professional baseball player and he just was, you know, rest his soul, because we don't want to send bad energy in the air. But he was like dating multiple women who one of them I'm not friends with.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  At the funeral, all the girls were like, who are you and why you here? Well, I'm her boy. For how long? Nine months? What about you? Nine years? What about you? Two years? What about you?

• 16:23Bunnie XO?

  That's how, that's how athletes are though. Athletes, musicians, like, that's how, that's the whole, you know, that's the whole game that they play.

• 16:31Speaker 03

  I'm surprised it didn't wind up being one big brawl with a bunch of chicks.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  But he doesn't understand, like, sometimes the world doesn't understand that. I wasn't really happy in LA though. Because if you go back to LA, no offense to LA, I love LA. I lived in LA when I was nineteen to twenty. And it's just changed.

• 16:45Bunnie XO?

  It's, I always tell everybody, Los Angeles has lost its sparkle.

• 16:48Speaker 02

  It really has. It really has.

• 16:50Bunnie XO?

  Back in like ten, fifteen years ago, that place was fucking just like glitter everywhere, you know? And now it's like, it has no soul.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  And another thing is like, you, you could barely get a one bedroom, one bath with no land near the beach of Santa Monica for four million or whatever. Out here you could have 20 acres.

• 17:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  If you're so obsessed with the beach, just buy a nice pool, put a sandbox next to it. What a fucking day.

• 17:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Are you guys gonna move to Nashville?

• 17:20Speaker 02

  We don't know what we're doing. We're just trying to figure out what the best place is.

• 17:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 17:24Speaker 02

  Because he needs to be close to Phoenix. Me, I just need great girlfriends, some water and some sun.

• 17:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, well, there's not a lot of water and a lot, a lot of sun here, except for in the summertime. I'm a Vegas girl, I'm a west coast girl too. It took a long time for me to get adjusted here, but once I did. Nashville is like LA but with a soul and it's like your peace. Like, it's like, everybody here is just so sweet and welcoming and loving.

• 17:46Speaker 02

  Southern hospitality.

• 17:47Bunnie XO?

  It's so healing.

• 17:48Speaker 03

  That's what I love about little towns like this and in Westchester, Pennsylvania. If you're a bartender, you're just simply happy being a bartender.

• 17:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 17:54Speaker 03

  If you're one in Los Angeles, you are just simply trying to make ends meet until your big break of becoming a model or an actor or whatever it is. And everybody's so fake that I, I just did a test with a friend because we were at a party. I'm like, just watch this. Yo, Ben, what are you up to? Oh, I'm actually gotta do, um, uh, Jimmy Kimmel, uh, because Jackass 2 is coming out, which was true. And they're like, dude, we gotta work together. Next person that comes up, yo, Ben, what are you up to? I actually just flew myself out here with my own money and I'm kinda looking for work. You got anything going on? Uh, good talking to you, pal. Like, if, if you're up to something, they all wanna be a part of it. And if you're not, then it's just, it's really fake town is what it is.

• 18:30Bunnie XO?

  No, it is, it is. It's, it's definitely gone down the drain in the past few years. So let's circle back to, um, how are Phil and, uh, April doing? How's your relationship with them?

• 18:42Speaker 03

  Um, well, I just realized that it, right now, it's just a good time to just back off and, and, and time, because they were a part of the whole treatment thing. Like, I got a guardian just like Britney Spears and her only answer to everything was lock me up and throw away the key, put him in treatment, put him in treatment. And I knew that that was not the way.

• 19:06Bunnie XO?

  That's the Lima girl.

• 19:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, and, and like.

• 19:08Bunnie XO?

  Lima.

• 19:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, and her last client, Amanda Rabb, she, she faked the autopsy report. They did research and found out that she, she died in the care of her own hands of having a seizure. And I've never had a seizure in my life until I met her. I went into five of them in a row. And the last one, I couldn't breathe on my own. I woke up eight days later on a fucking life support tube with COVID and pneumonia.

• 19:29Bunnie XO?

  That's wild.

• 19:30Speaker 03

  So like, I, I, all I knew is I, I had to. Once you get Martzman acted or Baker acted, it usually happens in Florida. That means that you have to do 90 days in treatment. And if the interventionalist knows that you have good insurance, they will find reasons to keep you there for eternity. So, I'm like 88 days in and I'm like, I get two, in two more days, I get out hip, hip, hooray. Then he walks in, he's like, you've been rocking those same shorts for like three days now. I'm like, yeah, I'm not trying to get any pussy around here. I don't care. They're like, it's bad hygiene. You're doing another 90 days at another place. Then I'll do 88 days at another place. Flick the cigarette out into a bush. They filmed it smoking like any cigarette would smoke. It was not on fire. They're like, you could lit the whole national forest on fire. You're doing another 90 days in another place. They just kept doing it and doing it, doing it.

• 20:13Speaker 02

  It's called body snatching, basically. It's the insurance. They just toss you through.

• 20:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  You know?

• 20:20Speaker 03

  And I realized that there's nothing that you could do to get out there. They will find, yeah.

• 20:24Bunnie XO?

  Oh yeah. Once you're in the system.

• 20:25Speaker 03

  So I did everything right. And I'm like, you know, we're gonna keep you here for another 90 days. For what? I've done everything you've asked. I've been here for two and a half years. Get me the fuck out. And when I did got out, I appreciated life a lot more. I'm like, I'm in a car. It's a convertible. There's the beach. I'm in a fucking Starbucks outside talking to you.

• 20:44Speaker 02

  Or just the music. They can't even hear the music.

• 20:46Speaker 03

  I had no interweb, no fucking music, no TV. A little bit of TV, but it was just terrible.

• 20:53Bunnie XO?

  Well, let's, let's rewind. So you feel like, you feel like April and Phil had something to do with the, was it a conservatorship that you had?

• 21:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, I guess guardian alitem, but, but.

• 21:05Bunnie XO?

  Did they hire this lady?

• 21:07Speaker 02

  So basically.

• 21:07Bunnie XO?

  Where did she come from?

• 21:08Speaker 03

  She got hired from, from Nikki's brother. They all teamed up on me and, and said that he needs to go away for a long, long time. They talked my parents into it by like saying, uh, yeah, $500,000 is a lot of money, but if you don't write this check, you're gonna be real sorry when he's six feet in the ground, you know, making her, my mom feel really bad about it. So she just got talked into this and then Lima has such a nice voice that she could pretty much con anybody into anything.

• 21:36Bunnie XO?

  Is she an interventionalist? What do they call those people?

• 21:39Speaker 02

  She tried to like create rehabs and stuff. If you look up her, I try not to talk about her. Too much because she's listening to everything and I don't care if she hears me today. It's about time she does. But it's if you're speaking truth.

• 21:48Speaker 03

  I would have been dead if I would have kept doing what she was making me do. And she was making me say things like, I was in the longest Florida shuffle. It's a fact. It's called a shuffle. She's like, Bam, there's no such thing as a Florida shuffle. You have to do a statement saying that you didn't know what you were talking about. And I really went on. She like forced me to do it like, hey, guys, I know I was talking about the Florida shuffle, but I don't know anything about it or what I was talking about. And I was not in the Florida shuffle whatsoever.

• 22:12Speaker 02

  Lies. How did she get?

• 22:13Speaker 03

  Like, I was definitely in the fucking Florida shuffle. I was in thirteen different treatment centers at ninety days apiece and one of them was two hundred and twenty. It's called a shuffle. They kept me in there. For why? For no reason. I already know the alcohol is good and it's not any bad. What do I have to do at the next class? Learned alcohol is bad. It's not any good. I'm very aware of that. What are you gonna do when you get out? I'm gonna sit on a white claw because fuck all y'all.

• 22:35Speaker 02

  So Nikki's Nikki and her brother hired this girl.

• 22:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  Okay, this woman and she came in and pretty much just like took over your life and fifty one fifty to you?

• 22:47Speaker 03

  The answer to everything is, yeah, fifty one fifty me. And, uh, you know, is what hurts the most is that this, Uh, chick, very good friend of mine, BJ Investigates, uh, it's also called The Surprise Witness. She does a podcast.

• 22:59Speaker 02

  That surprise witness.

• 23:01Speaker 03

  She decided to buy every nine one one call of me or that I've done.

• 23:05Speaker 02

  And body cam.

• 23:06Speaker 03

  Body cam footage, every document, every house I bought and sold, every car. She just wanted everything. And why? Because she just wanted to find out the truth. She knows that something shady was going on. And she, when we looked at the body cam footage, Uh, my Aunt Missy, my mom, they were all in on it. I'm like hiding in a hotel. And then all of a sudden the police show up. I'm like, are you in all this? My mom's like, Bam, I have no idea. I have no idea about it. Then as soon as I get handcuffed and taken away, she's talking to the cops like, like they fucking arranged this.

• 23:35Speaker 02

  Well, the Aunt Missy, whoever she is, was like, tell them I'm not here. Tell, when you watch it, you'll cry. I can't watch it. Because it shows betrayal from family and I can't watch it. I was crying through like the third one. And BJ is a very good friend of ours. They don't like her because she's speaking the truth.

• 23:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:51Speaker 02

  And she's uncovered things that he was too fucked up to realize.

• 23:55Speaker 03

  And, and you can't deny. Physical body cam proof, which is what she has and documented proof. So she doesn't, BJ doesn't know what she's talking about. Yes, she does because it's documented in the court of law.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  She's a lawyer.

• 24:09Speaker 03

  She's a lawyer, yeah.

• 24:10Bunnie XO?

  So, okay, circling back, I'm sorry I had to cut you off in such a crucial moment, but that betrayal has got to be fucking traumatic.

• 24:18Speaker 03

  Yeah. And if, if, if my mom is able to say that for a whole year, she's like, bam, I swear I, I had no idea about it. And then a year later BJ got the body cam footage. I'm like, what do you have to say about this? Well, Pam, we didn't know what to do. It's like, but, but you lied to me for a whole year. Like, I think you even swore on your whatever's, you know what I mean? Like.

• 24:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. What, were you using a lot then?

• 24:41Speaker 03

  No, because I was in treatment for two years, but as soon as I would get out, the first thing I wanted to do was that because I had no reason to stop. My kid has been taken away from me and they have no plans on arranging me a visit. I'm paying rent, um, for my girlfriend's place and I said, if you move to Burbank, you're your brainwashing brother. I'm leaving you for good. So I'm like, I'll move to anywhere with you in Phoenix on the planet, except there. So I sent the money. I'm like, congratulations. I heard you got a place. Where is it? She's like Burbank. I'm like, all right, I'm leaving you. And she thought that I was fibbing, but like, I, the, the only reason it made me stop right here. She gave me the perfect ultimatum, her Poussoir or the vodka. I really like vodka, but I'm not going to go with that. I'm going to go with the first option.

• 25:27Speaker 03

  And, um, her stretching an hour a day is so effective. Anytime I was sore back in the day, I'm like, man, I'm sore. I need a massage. I should have got a stretch coach.

• 25:35Speaker 02

  I just want to go back to like the, just because the family and everything, because we could talk all day. We all probably have ADHD in this room. But I, the thing that I noticed when we got together is, and I'm going to say it because this is the honesty day today, is I've never had a chance to talk to the world. So what I experienced in the beginning. Would be devastating to me because whatever issue you have, your family's supposed to be the ones that you can count on and your friends. So when you see a situation like Brittany and now and Bam, it's, it's the money. I worked for a piece of shit who was in the Florida shuttle shuffle. His name's Joe McBride, I dare him to come for me. He owes me $900. But like he was in the Florida shuffle and he was sleeping with these girls. Like I'm, I'm a very.

• 26:19Bunnie XO?

  What was he?

• 26:20Speaker 02

  He was, he was an owner of a rehabilitation center. So the, the definition of the Florida shuffle where Bam was, which his parents seemed to be in denial at times, is that they will just take you and then say, you and I have one. It's like, hey, Bam's about to get out, so let's get him fucked up. So they'll let, they would let the girls.

• 26:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, because if they let you out and you have a couple of days left, they're hoping that you relapse so they could keep you for another 90 days for insurance purposes.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  So they would let the girls go out and then say, I'd say, hey, you know, Haley's over on 10th Street in Delray, go get her. And then you would keep her for 30 days and we would split the $100,000. And that's how it goes. And that's what he was in. So when you have someone like our men here that have money, it's just a constant shuffle. So when I saw some of the body cam, I was like pretty disturbed that people that were calling my phone, brand new, trying to get ahold of him that I'm realizing don't want to call me either, right? Because they just wanted to get to him. There's just a lot of facts out there that show that they just wanted to keep him there. And if he wouldn't have met me, he'd either be dead or he would have just been in the Florida shuffle.

• 27:19Speaker 03

  For sure. And these places are so shady that I had a roommate named Big Ben and an ambulance took him out at three in the morning when everybody was asleep and they pronounced him dead. And they, I woke up and I overhear everybody saying like, hey, where's Big Ben? He left. And, and all the staff members were like, oh, he moved along to a different facility. I'm like, different facility? Yeah, the fucking morgue, he's dead or than shit. They pronounced him dead when I was sitting next to him.

• 27:45Bunnie XO?

  That's gotta be traumatic.

• 27:46Speaker 03

  But this whole place is trained, they were, they, they taught everybody to say that he moved along to a different facility. Yeah, the morgue, he's dead.

• 27:53Bunnie XO?

  That's gotta be traumatic also having your roommate die right next to you.

• 27:57Speaker 03

  They put me in, I had to go in on, on, under jackass rules with Paramount that I go to treatment and pay for it.

• 28:02Bunnie XO?

  I read about this. It was wild.

• 28:04Speaker 03

  So I'm going in on Adderall and alcohol, which I had a prescription for, and uh, I go in, I'm on more drugs than I've ever had. I was a fucking zombie to the point where I couldn't even cry or come. They put me on fucking biproprion, propanolol, lithium, lituda, trazodone, seriquil, um, e- every well butcher and an abilify known to man, but, but you could say like, hey Bam, your uh, cat, oh, my cat died neat. You know, hey, uh, Angelina's over there naked and she wants to have at it. Oh, she does? Cool. Like, I was just numb. I had no feelings whatsoever. I was better out at the fucking Irish Bubs cracking jokes on Adderall and alcohol rather than all that shit.

• 28:42Bunnie XO?

  Do you feel like they keep people overmedicated in these places so that they can control them?

• 28:47Speaker 03

  That, of course, that and, and they, and the doctor probably gets a big kickback on writing all these prescriptions. If, if they leave, if you leave on nothing, then they lose a client.

• 28:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 28:58Speaker 03

  Oh, he's good to go. Well, it looks like we don't need him anymore. No, they want you forever to be on their shit.

• 29:02Bunnie XO?

  They farm with poison.

• 29:03Speaker 03

  What did it do? Nothing. I, they said, they diagnosed me with manic bipolar and then they said, are you depressed? I go, I don't know. If I am depressed, it's because I'm now too, I'm, I'm top heavy and I can't skateboard how I used to. So they give me all these new prescriptions and I'm eating salads in there and I'm like gaining weight. I'm like, that's it. So I type in Depakote, number one weight gaining pill, Zyprexa, number one weight gaining pill. I'm like, doc, why would you give me a weight gaining pill if, if I told you I'm depressed because I'm heavier than I'm supposed to be? He's like, well, it's an antidepressant. Well, if I keep getting fatter, I'm gonna be fucking more depressed, you he-eyed.

• 29:37Bunnie XO?

  They um, they literally just give you a pill for everything. That's why I won't take any medication. I, I barely even wanna take a leave like around my period because it just fucking, medications are just, they're like a Band-Aid and they don't fucking help. You don't, they don't heal you.

• 29:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:53Bunnie XO?

  If anything, you get strung out on them or you are dependent on them for the rest of your life.

• 29:56Speaker 03

  Exactly. And, and I did learn this, the interventionalist Steve Timmer was on the body cam footage and uh, if you tell the police, don't listen to a word he says, he's schizophrenic. If you say he's schizophrenic, you could be like, Hey police, if you look right there and just lean your head over, you will find a dead body. Yeah, yeah, you're not. No, no, no, just take two steps and take a look. Yeah, you're schizophrenic. You don't know what you're talking about. Like, no, just fucking take two steps and fucking look. Like, they just do not believe anything. As soon as you say schizophrenic, don't believe a word.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  It's actually one of the body cams. You can hear one of the cops go. He's about to go in the room. That's when I can't watch it anymore. His friend Paul was on the phone. Now that I'm very good friends with Paul, and Paul said it was devastating, but you can hear the one cop go, "Oh, he's just schizophrenic. Don't worry about it." Like, it's something in that manner of like, "Don't pay attention to anything he says."

• 30:44Bunnie XO?

  Did they diagnose you with schizophrenia?

• 30:46Speaker 02

  He doesn't even know. He's like, it's always something. And the answer is no, he's not schizophrenic.

• 30:51Speaker 03

  Just wanted to see me get arrested and go back to a mental institution.

• 30:54Speaker 02

  My stepdad was schizophrenic. He ain't schizophrenic.

• 30:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, what are your diagnoses?

• 30:58Speaker 03

  So, out of the 13 places I've been to, I think two of them diagnosed me with manic bipolar. The other 11 says that I'm not that. Every time I go to a new treatment center, which would be every 90 days, they'd be like, "They have you on this, that, and the other thing, and this, this, this. What kind of cocktail is this? We've never seen anything like that." I'm like, "They said that they were the best of the best." "No, we're the best of the best, and you're gonna be on this, that, and the other thing now, and switch it up." Then I go to another place, they'd be like, "What did that place put you on? This is the craziest cocktail I've ever seen." I'm like, "Well, they said that they were the best of the best, and that place that was the best of the best said that they sucked." I'm like, "You're all fucking idiots."

• 31:32Speaker 02

  Minus the only one that wasn't an idiot that we just happened to run into, how angels come back around, is his, and I'm gonna say her name, is Anne Marie. We were just in Doylestown, Pennsylvania, and she hasn't seen this person in so long. And there's a table we usually set up with the Duffs. Um, the Duffs, this is, uh, Ed Duff rides for Tony Hawk and Pamela Duff.

• 31:52Speaker 03

  She was just sitting there, I'm like, "What? My therapist, what are you doing?" She was there for a different thing.

• 31:57Bunnie XO?

  She's your original therapist?

• 31:59Speaker 03

  And she was the only one that I listened to and loved. Everybody else, you know? And that's another thing. I just spill my guts to a whole new therapist out of... I had 13 therapists in the past two years, so it's like, here we go again. I gotta spill my whole guts out to every, another person and get nowhere, because I'm just gonna leave again and they're gonna give me another.

• 32:18Speaker 02

  Okay, you be quiet for one minute. So, she basically, we just ran into her, though. And it was, so she was one of the only ones that told me personally that she didn't wanna do what... Companies were making him do the Paramount thing and everything that she didn't want him on all these things. So they didn't want, they didn't like her because she wasn't following the poisonous rules.

• 32:38Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 32:38Speaker 02

  So somehow they lost contact. We're going to meet Pamela for dinner. We walk in this restaurant to go to Pamela's table. And she's sitting there. She's in this beautiful pink suit. I'm like, who's this bombshell? Where's Pamela? And then they're like almost crying because they haven't seen each other in so long. So I just want to say like, there was one good one, but she was too good to make it because they want good to go away.

• 33:01Bunnie XO?

  They want to feed the system.

• 33:02Speaker 03

  So if I stop taking the 18 medications, then I don't get the five million that I usually get on a jackass movie because I broke my contract. So I stopped taking it. They're like, looks like you broke your contract. I'm like, yeah, what's the point? What's the point of getting five million dollars if I'm dead?

• 33:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 33:16Speaker 03

  Cause that's what was gonna happen.

• 33:18Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 33:18Speaker 03

  Taking that.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  But if you read about Britney, they say how they open your mouth. They make you swallow the pills.

• 33:22Speaker 03

  I had to show my tongue.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  So it was like they were making him do that.

• 33:25Bunnie XO?

  Didn't you have to like sit on FaceTimes with them and take your medication every day?

• 33:28Speaker 03

  All fucking day, only to get up to piss or go to the refrigerator. And I would just go back to bed. I, I, I was like, basically just dead inside.

• 33:37Speaker 02

  They did it to him. They did it to him again recently when I went to go pick him up. That's like another part of the family like. And now that I can talk about it, you know, everyone is aware that it happened fast, but when we started dating and then we had our one first fight ever. And he was like, I'm going to Nobu to bang bowl. I was like, you are? Don't do that. I like you. So then I met my best friend Heather. I was like, do you really think he's going to go to Nobu and do that? She's like, I don't think so. And then two hours later, he's like, bam, knocking on her door, La Brea in Hollywood. And I'm like, all right, we're dating. It's over. Don't do that again. To me, I was stressed out. But um, you know, when he had to go to court was when it was a reality check. He asked me, will you fly to Pennsylvania with me and go to court? And it was a really big deal, but I didn't know that he wasn't coming back. So they kept.

• 34:19Speaker 03

  I didn't know either. So.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  So it was.

• 34:21Speaker 03

  Because I had a little tiff with my brother. I, I lent him Castle Bam to turn into a recording studio. He got Prince's soundboard from Paisley Park and um. And I knew that I would be in treatment and, and once I got out, I was gonna go to California to hike with the shaman to lose all his weight. So I came home, didn't think that I had to make an announcement that I'm coming home because it's my home. So instead of like, hey, welcome back. It was more like, so when are you leaving? Fuck you's when I'm leaving. So we got in a little tiff about that. I, I read his phone on a three-way conversation with the people that were working in the studio at my house saying, we did not know Bam would be home. Um, he's ruining our program.

• 35:01Speaker 03

  We need to get him back to California ASAP or 5150 him for no reason. Just to not, so I ripped off, the first thing I saw, which is a signed Billy Idol guitar and, and either smashed it with him or on the kitchen, whatever. And then I told his girlfriend, who was trying to rescue a cat, she fell off the ladder and shattered her heel. So I said I'd put a bear trap on her other foot, knowing that I don't own a bear trap and I certainly didn't fly in with one. So I got a terroristic death threat charge of a bear trap and I put my fucking hand in one and jackass too, and it didn't even break. So cool your goddamn jets, everyone.

• 35:33Bunnie XO?

  It's gotta be so hurtful that the people that you're, are supposed to love you the most seem to be so against you. It's almost like they're just-

• 35:40Speaker 03

  Just, it's the little things that piss me off. Villa Vallow from him is my favorite band. So I have a big, a picture right as soon as you walk in. There's a piece of cardboard duct taped over his face with like a, you know, just super disrespectful. And then I just bought Phoenix a little blue Lamborghini car, special car that I left because when I got arrested on the manhunt, when they called the police on me to 5150 me, I left that car there because I got locked up. He could've just put it right in the house. It got so sun dried that it's gray. It's not even worth giving it to him anymore.

• 36:14Bunnie XO?

  What is your relationship with Nikki now?

• 36:17Speaker 03

  There isn't one.

• 36:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 36:18Speaker 03

  The, the lawyers, she, she lawyered up with a lawyer, which- Was completely ridiculous because we're not married. We got married. It was a fake wedding in Iceland that you you have to be a resident there to make it legit. We didn't know that. So thank God on that. We're we. So she's trying to tell the the lawyer that her name is Nicole Margera. That name does not exist on paper. It doesn't exist on the planet of Earth. So I was giving her five grand a month out of the kindness of my own heart for child support. I'm like, I'm being more than fair. And then finally, we went to court with her getting a lawyer and the judge was like, you only get $500 a month. You're not even married. So I'm like, you you should have been happy with the five grand. Now I've given 200 grand to my lawyer and your lawyer wants me to pay for him too. All the money has gone to the

• 37:03Speaker 03

  lawyers. Congratulations. If we're a matter, we could have figured out in one second. When's a better FaceTime for Phoenix? High noon on Wednesday or is Tuesday better? But they always say, we're still working on it. So if you send me another 50 grand, we'll still be working on it. Yeah, you're gonna work on it for eternity till my bank's running dry.

• 37:20Bunnie XO?

  So you aren't in Phoenix's life right now, or you are?

• 37:25Speaker 03

  It's still it's still an issue. Apparently, I get to see him once um every weekend, but I'm fully booked with these Comic Cons every weekend to pay these legal fees.

• 37:37Speaker 02

  It's it's working out, though. Like, they have, you know, unfortunately, just to speak on the subject, I, you know, push him. I come from a divorced family. I have daddy issues right now. I'm pissed at him right now, but um it'll work out. And Phoenix is so young that he just wants to see dad. Dad's dad's famous. So dad's busy and he's doing better than ever and he'll be okay. You know, it's just getting on a schedule so they can see each other and spend time. Right now, it's monitored. So that's went a little hard on him. But, you know, you got to prove to the system that you're not a nutball, even though he's kind of crazy. But I told him just to do his part. They're gonna be just fine.

• 38:09Speaker 03

  It almost doesn't even matter if a decade went by, like. Hey, do you know, uh, can Bam see Phoenix now? Because it's been 10 years and he's been sober as a judge. Well, he'll probably just relapse. I know him. You know, there's nothing I could do to win on this matter and.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  Unfortunately, he's been so up and down that there, I don't think that they believe this. I think they think I'm a flyby girlfriend.

• 38:30Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 38:31Speaker 02

  Some people think I'm here for the fame. I'm famous in my own way. I don't need it.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  And it's really shitty because I'm missing him grow up.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:38Speaker 03

  You know, if I walk in the mall and I see some teddy bears or a fucking Paw Patrol poster, I'm crying my eyes out. If I even go past a playground and I see kids play, it's like, that's all I want to do, but I have to have a fucking supervised visit from the Supreme Court with a microphone on. Just, it's like, I've been living at the Black Rifle Coffee Compound with a little eight year old and a, and a 10 year old. How come I get to live there and play with them all day? But when it comes to my own kid, I have to have a Supreme Court visit with a fucking microphone and people filming me just to make sure I don't do anything wrong. What am I gonna do wrong?

• 39:12Speaker 02

  But my sister is not famous and she had to go through this.

• 39:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  And she just in Georgia has like, and he won 51% and my sister is an angel. She has to pay child support. So they have a good connection and he knows he's not alone. There's a lot of parents out there that are fighting for their kids, whether you're famous and have money or broke and have nothing and they're fighting for no reason, when it should just be about the child. So I support him 100% and he knows that.

• 39:36Speaker 03

  I don't even know what school he goes to. I don't even know where he lives, even though I'm paying for it. I don't even know anything about him. What friends he has, what he even likes, what cartoons he likes. Don't know anymore. Because everything has to go through the lawyer and it's just such a pain in the ass.

• 39:52Bunnie XO?

  Is Nikki willing to put her hurt aside and have some sort of friendship with you so that you guys can, can co-parent together?

• 39:59Speaker 03

  When a girl is scorned, then all they see is fire in their eyes and Babylon's burning and it's gonna burn your fucking house down. There's nothing you could do to save it. It's just.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  It's hard and the kid's young. So just I think right now like me personally, I just like I said, I come from a, you know, divorced family and you know, it's all about him and Phoenix. It's not about her. It's not about me. It's not about April and Phil. It's about those two.

• 40:26Speaker 03

  And you know that everybody on her end, they're hearing her one sided story. She's probably going around saying, Bam left me high and dry and, and he gives me only $400 a month. Yeah, I was giving you five until the judge said you're only getting four. And I gave it all my money to lawyers when I begged you not to get one because we don't need that. So it's all gone anyway. There's nothing to divide anymore. Her and I have started from scratch and I love it that way. So now if we want to get a house, we pick out our own furniture. We do it. I like starting from, I've never been more happy in my life on this great adventure of just going from spot to spot, meeting new people, coming up with new deals, new what, whatever. It's great.

• 41:07Bunnie XO?

  Sounds like you.

• 41:08Speaker 03

  Before I was just stuck at home in, in a vicious circle of the hair of the dog. I wake up like, oh, I feel like shit from drinking, but if I have a drink, I'm going to feel pretty good. And if I have another one, I'm going to feel even better. If I have a third one, I'll feel great. Next thing you know, you wake up, oh, fuck, I feel like shit, but if I have a beer, I know.

• 41:27Bunnie XO?

  It's a cycle.

• 41:28Speaker 02

  Why do they call it hair of the dog?

• 41:30Bunnie XO?

  I've never understood that.

• 41:31Speaker 03

  The dog that bit you.

• 41:33Speaker 02

  But why the dog hair doesn't bite?

• 41:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:36Speaker 02

  I like dog hair.

• 41:37Bunnie XO?

  I've never understood that saying either.

• 41:40Speaker 02

  But I use the method often in the past.

• 41:43Bunnie XO?

  It sounds to me like you have found some sort of purpose.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 41:47Bunnie XO?

  And that's what's driving you and that's exciting to you because even though you have done everything that you've done, it, it almost like seems like it started so young for you that you weren't able to appreciate it.

• 41:57Speaker 03

  Exactly. Like.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  Amen, buddy.

• 42:00Speaker 03

  I mean. I made my own video at the age of 16 and through word of mouth sold over a million copies without even putting an ad in anything, just mom and pop skate shops were selling it and everybody said, you need to see this video. So then I did another one and then that's when Jackass found me. I was the first person ever ride for Nike. And um, when Element put out my skateboards, they also put out Bam wallets, Bam sunglasses, Bam everything. And when Jackass became bigger than MTV could imagine, I already had all this Bam stuff out before they could even make Jackass stuff. So I was clocking Mega Bank. And every wish that I had, any goal that I set would come true quicker than my deadline date and I fucking ran out of goals.

• 42:45Bunnie XO?

  I feel like you made Jackass though, because you already had like a little mini empire with CKY before even getting on to Jack. I knew who you were before Jackass. Everybody says, all the fans really say that. Like people who really grew up with you, because you raised some of us, you know, like we grew up with you and you were like, you were pretty much like one of the first real content creators. If you think about it, like really influencer, whatever the fuck they want to call it.

• 43:09Speaker 03

  That's the thing, living in Pennsylvania.

• 43:10Bunnie XO?

  And he's the hottest.

• 43:11Speaker 03

  That's when Tremaine and Knoxville, they would be in, in Los Angeles making all these secret deals. Then they do a fucking documentary about how Jackass got created. And talking about Big Brother the whole time. And at the very tail end, probably about 5%, oh yeah. And then Ben was doing CKY in Pennsylvania. If you do the math, I sold millions of copies. You fucking barely sold 20,000 copies of Big Brother's video called poop and tit and fucking crap.

• 43:36Bunnie XO?

  I don't even know. I've never even heard of them. Yeah. Exactly. I know who CKY is. Never heard of that.

• 43:43Speaker 03

  I have learned how to fucking forgive and be happy and I deleted anybody that's giving me a problem, but I just want to take my anger out on one person. Jeff Tremaine's too much of a fucking pussy. Knoxville, get into a ring with me. Take off your boxing gloves. One, two, three, you're fucking done for.

• 44:00Bunnie XO?

  So you're still really angry with Knoxville?

• 44:03Speaker 03

  Put me through hell, made me pay all this fucking treatment money and they're filming behind my back while I'm in treatment. So they already set me up to fucking fail. And then, and then as soon as I do the slightest thing wrong, I'm not in the movie. So I paid a hundred grand to go to treatment only for me to fuck up. And then now I'm not in the movie. They had it all planned out and I think that Knoxville tried to do this movie called Action Point in South Africa. And they had a 15 million dollar budget and he tried to do it without us and it was a fucking flop. They only made $2 million. So when that happens, the label says you're not free to go. You're either gonna have to pay this back or fucking put your house up for sale or do a Jackass 5. Well, if Bam's not in it, then that's already 6 million, 5 million dollars that we don't have to pay back.

• 44:46Speaker 03

  So we could already say he's a fucking liability because he's drunk out in front of a hotel room on TMZ. Yeah, well, in Jackass 2, I got a high five for fucking good press when I got a felony charge having brats knuckles at the LAX airport. Drunk as hell.

• 45:00Speaker 02

  That's all what they need from you at the time.

• 45:01Speaker 03

  But now I'm a liability, fuck you guys.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  I'm just gonna say on that note, since we skipped right forward to that, you know, it's funny how recently my DMs and phone calls and text messages. I'm gonna let them all know right now to stop texting him.

• 45:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, and if you double dog Knoxville to do any stunt, I'm so brave, I'll have to do it. Why triple dog dare you step into a fucking ring with me, you're done for. You're over.

• 45:24Bunnie XO?

  When you say your DMs and stuff like that, who's DMing you and calling?

• 45:28Speaker 02

  Well, just in the beginning, I mean, I'll just say, you know, Novak reached out, but I don't even know who he is. So I don't want to get involved with their relationship. I have a 30 year friendship relationship and no one will get involved in that either, you know?

• 45:39Bunnie XO?

  Brandon was around during the CKY days too, wasn't he?

• 45:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, he was and you know, I, I've helped him with over a dozen treatment centers. I rescued him over a dozen fucking overdoses at the hospital. I've. Paid for all of his mistakes and I don't want any of that money back now that he's doing good, but like he stole my S55 Mercedes, a hundred twenty-five thousand dollar car when I was in Germany, high on pills to go get more pills, wrecked into the dean's car in Westchester, fleed the scene, they tried to charge me over until I proved I was in Germany. But he says you always gotta take a cone of booey for your actions. Alright, well you owe me a fucking car. You're buying your seventh treatment house in Delaware, driving around in your Range Rover, you owe me a car.

• 46:20Speaker 02

  But even just recently, like I went, because I go through his phones, anybody who's texting, I read everything because I'm allowed to, and if I need to change the number, I will, because there's nobody allowed but our little small circle right now. Which is probably what's keeping him safe and sober. Yeah, I can't have any of that. And I've gone through the phone and I saw the message, like, let's go to the sausage castle and you can knock me out. I'm like, I love Mike, but I'm like, and Mike Busey wasn't the one texting, but you know, Steve was asking him to like, punch him, like, we're not, what are you talking, like, we're doing, he's doing great, like, you should probably want to talk to him and ask how he's doing, instead of doing something that would benefit you.

• 46:54Speaker 03

  And that's why I like just putting my phone down. I like to just focus on, we spent all day, every day, like, we are such a fucking powerhouse team that she takes better photos than most of the people on Thrash.

• 47:06Speaker 02

  Those are all my pictures of the skateboarding.

• 47:08Speaker 03

  Angle is, we get the shot, she stretches me beforehand and it's, we just have like a perfect day that I don't need any fucking phone calls interrupting the flow of that and, you know, everybody asks me, like, if they did another Jackass, would you want to be, hell no, it is done. Tremaine has ruined the legacy. It was supposed to be a fucking tribute to Ryan Dunn. Now he puts these fucking new hee-haw heads in there and, and it's just.

• 47:33Speaker 02

  And too many balls, like, why are we stapling balls the whole time? It was very disturbing.

• 47:36Speaker 03

  And all he does is sit behind the camera and say, get hurt in action. Poopies got bitten by a fucking shark, he could have died. And the movie made a hundred and fifty million dollars in the box office and apparently he got like less than forty grand. You can't even buy a fucking Datsun with a used tire on with that kind of money. Meanwhile, yeah, you had to, or a Hyundai, but you had to sign a contract on Jackass four. Everybody could get fucked with at any given moment, except for Tremaine because he's the director. No, because he's a fucking pussy.

• 48:06Bunnie XO?

  So circling back to Steveo, I had a conversation with him the other day because he's coming on the podcast and Jay just did his podcast. And I told him that you were coming on and he said, um, that he is, I can't, I'd have to look at the text message, but so much. I think he said around the, like he's hurt, he's reached out to you and he's hurt because he hasn't heard a response.

• 48:27Speaker 02

  I won't let him respond right now. So he could be mad at me, but that's okay.

• 48:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:31Speaker 02

  Maybe when I get, um, to know a little bit more of the situation, right now my focus is his mental health and my relationship. Like I've only been with this person for eight months and it went public kind of immediately, which I can handle. But you know, right now they don't know him anymore. Right now this person is on a whole new chapter. It's not about counting days. It's not about how, you know, it's about he's changed, he's turned a page. And if, if those friendships can survive, then that's great. But right now.

• 48:58Speaker 03

  I love Steveo. When the time is right, we'll, we'll talk and everything's cool. But I mean, like I did his tour. He asked me to go on tour to do, open up for his comedy show and get some money to pay some legal fee bills of the mess that I'm in. And I completed my mission. Everything was success. I didn't drink like how he asked and, uh, and then I find out that he puts all my money in a Phoenix Wolf Trust Fund when he turns 18. I'm like, I earned that money. Yeah, but we didn't want you to spend it on alcohol or drugs. It doesn't matter. I did the work. Fucking pay me. And it's, it's not like I need your money. I have a fucking couple of bank accounts. I could just go right to the store and get some, but like you're not at liberty to be starting a Phoenix, the Wolf Trust Fund. And he gets it when he's 18. It's fuck, fuck that.

• 49:43Bunnie XO?

  It sounds to me like you're really hurt and upset and tired of people making fucking decisions for you.

• 49:48Speaker 03

  Making decisions for me and I, I can't even trust, you know, I, it's just hard to trust anybody. I don't know what their fucking real agenda is.

• 49:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's tough.

• 49:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:58Bunnie XO?

  That's heavy to not be able to trust anybody like that.

• 50:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:01Bunnie XO?

  I always say friendships are meant to be like they will. Yeah. I mean, they've known each other a really long time.

• 50:05Speaker 03

  We have created such a tight bubble of friends that, that, that.

• 50:09Bunnie XO?

  Right now is.

• 50:10Speaker 03

  You know, we have a perfect circle of tight friends and I'm not going to let anybody fucking dent it anymore.

• 50:15Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 50:16Speaker 03

  Viva La Bam, I let in so many friends that a bubble just bursted.

• 50:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:20Speaker 03

  And you, when you keep giving everybody your phone number, then you start talking, you start forgetting to talk about the important ones. There was a point where my manager Terry Hardy was so great, he would get me fucking commercials to do Right Guard for a million dollars of one day of work.

• 50:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:35Speaker 03

  And now I'm pawning off his phone calls to a friend of a friend because I don't have time to fucking answer it now. Which I've highly regret doing. You know, when I look back at everything, I'm like, shit.

• 50:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:46Speaker 03

  He, he had this movie.

• 50:48Bunnie XO?

  The crowd got too big.

• 50:48Speaker 03

  All ready for me to go. I was too hungover to make the flight. And because of that, I think that's when he was just like, you know what? Enough is enough. I can't, I just had a lot of money on the line for you to be producing this movie in Hollywood. And you were just too hungover to get on the flight. Well, I'm done.

• 51:03Bunnie XO?

  I think that circles back to doing this at such a young age and just not appreciating the opportunities because you didn't know. Like you literally grew up doing this. So to you, it was just like, oh, another fucking deal. I'll get another one, you know?

• 51:16Speaker 03

  And to have three hundred thousand dollars to spend a week for sixty five weeks.

• 51:20Bunnie XO?

  That's unheard of. They would never give somebody a budget like that now. That's unheard of.

• 51:25Speaker 03

  Our meetings at MTV would be fucking bonkers. It's like, so what do you want to do this week? And I, most people be like, is this guy crazy? I'll be like, how about we paint the entire kitchen blue? And then we'll have an elephant come in and we'll make the outside a fucking moat with a drawbridge. And then I'll keep wrecking Don Vito, my uncle's car until he gets fed up and drives my Hummer off a cliff.

• 51:43Bunnie XO?

  Don Vito.

• 51:43Speaker 03

  Boom, done, deal.

• 51:45Bunnie XO?

  Now he saves elephants.

• 51:49Bunnie XO?

  I love that. So going back to you and Ryan Dunn's relationship, let's focus on that for a little bit. You guys were like best of friends.

• 51:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:58Bunnie XO?

  Take me on that journey with you guys.

• 52:00Speaker 03

  Um, well, we met in, I was in ninth grade. He was in 11th at East High School in Westchester, Pennsylvania. He just, um, moved from Cleveland, Ohio. And, um, he was just such a character. He was, he didn't know how to skateboard and he knew that I was making the CKY video. And, uh, he became a part of the crew just because he would be the guy to do the gnarly thing that everybody would back out on, you know? He's big, so, so what does everybody put out on? To get in that wheelbarrow and get pushed off of that three story building into this pricker bush? Just give me a shot of Crown Royal and let's get it done and over with. So, so he would be like, we called him random hero because he would always save the day. And, um, and we did everything together.

• 52:44Speaker 03

  Anytime we did an MTV interview, he would always be right there. If I started trailing off or, you know, he would always take over. So to find out that he got in a, um, car accident, it, it was very devastating because I never had anybody die that I was close to, and I never knew what it felt like. It was always like, hey, did you hear Aunt Audrey from Pittsburgh died? I'm like, who? We had Thanksgiving dinner with her, five Thanksgiving, all right, whatever. Are you gonna go to the funeral? I guess if I have to, I don't know. So anybody that died until then, I never knew, I didn't.

• 53:17Bunnie XO?

  You never knew a pain.

• 53:19Speaker 03

  But then when that, it hit so hard to the point where I remember we were in, outside of Phoenix, Arizona, I was doing an appearance the next day and we were in the woods having a campfire. You could see all the stars and I'm like, man, I am really happy right now. I couldn't be happier. Then all of a sudden I just punch out the van window and break it for no reason. And the tour manager was like, why did you do that? I'm like, I don't know. I'm just mad and I don't know why. I just don't know why. Turns out he wrecked at. Twelve twenty eight in Pennsylvania and I smashed the window at fucking nine twenty eight in Phoenix. So it's like we had such a connection that I knew something bad happened and I didn't know what till I found out the next morning.

• 53:59Bunnie XO?

  So it was like he was one like a soulmate. Like he wanted you to know, yeah. Soulmate, soulmates can be your friends too. It's not always a romantic link.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  And my mom would always tell him like, you get these fucking fast cars with these fast engines. You're gonna get into a wreck. He's like, yeah, a fiery wreck. And that's how, and that's how it happened. He wrecked. He flipped me in a car eight times in the oncoming traffic when I was sixteen years old. In, in school, he, he was doing a radio, he was installing radios and he's like, cop in the car. I got this Jetta.

• 54:27Bunnie XO?

  I bet he's happy and happy that he calmed down a little bit.

• 54:30Speaker 03

  So, so we were flying a hundred and ten miles per hour. Somebody caught us off. We slid for so long like a football field. As soon as we hit the, uh, grass in the median, we started flipping into oncoming traffic. My brother got flown out on the last flip. He was forty feet in like a moat. I could see his feet sticking out. And when I saw him, he was just like, uh, a helicopter had to come and get him out. I had a big softball on my head from bashing the window out on the first flip. But I gotta thank Chris Rab because he was sitting next to me and he put my seatbelt on and I ejected. I said, I'm not a pussy. And then he put it on again and then we flipped instantly after the second time he put it on.

• 55:07Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 55:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:09Bunnie XO?

  Do you feel like after Ryan's death is kind of when you started spiraling?

• 55:13Speaker 03

  Hell, yeah, because I was so lost that I didn't know what to do. It's like, well, now we can't make a CKY video. If we do another jagged, it won't be the same.

• 55:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 55:22Speaker 03

  And, uh, uh, instead of like drinking as a celebration, it was just drinking to forget.

• 55:28Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 55:28Speaker 03

  And it became a real fucking problem and I didn't even know it. I would always. I was always that guy to go, you know, ninety days and be like, all right, you know what? We're going to Ruth Chris Steakhouse tonight. I could have one wine for dinner. Yeah, it might be one wine that night for dinner, but the next day I'm gonna have two. The next day it's gonna be two bottles and then I'm out looking for drugs. It always happens that way.

• 55:51Bunnie XO?

  And getting your phone stolen was.

• 55:52Speaker 03

  Over a big dozen of tries to realize that.

• 55:55Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness. So jumping back in, do you think Bam, um, you know, all the trauma that you've been through? Have you had, I know you've been to all, did the Florida shuffle, but have you ever had any like trauma therapy?

• 56:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, they put me through everything. I like a part of the uh jackass thing. I had to blow into a soberling four times a day. I had to pay for eight hundred dollars of therapy twice a week, neurofeedback, same thing. Um, uh, yeah, and, and

• 56:25Speaker 02

  But I think you were forced. I think if you did it like on your own.

• 56:28Speaker 03

  I have therapy of hearing sirens when I, cause I was on, when I was on that manhunt. It was gnarly. There was three helicopters in the sky, eight police officers circling around, trying to find me through the woods. I am a professional and hopping barbed wire fences. I was scared shitless on the fourth one, but on the eighth one, I became a pro and then I drank the brandy wine river because I was dying of thirst. I slept in a box in a fucking house that I thought was abandoned until they pulled up and they were so terrified. They come up to unlock the door and they just see a pair of feet hanging out this box and all of a sudden I just jump out like a bat out of hell. I just go, I'm sorry. And I keep running down the railroad tracks.

• 57:03Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh.

• 57:04Speaker 03

  I was fucking Harriet Tubman from the Underground Railroad. I had families hide me, take me to a Albanian restaurant and then they took me from there. Finally, I, I made it to the Jersey shore at a buddy's house and, and I was telling random people just to see how far it would go. I told my mom that I was in North Carolina, just to see if that would travel anywhere. Sure enough, turns out like we found out Bam's in North Carolina on a high P speed chase, all larried up because if he made it to North Carolina that quick, that that means he was driving a hundred and twenty miles per hour. I'm like, that was a lie that I told to my mom just to see how far it would go.

• 57:41Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh.

• 57:42Speaker 03

  I'm in Jersey assholes.

• 57:44Bunnie XO?

  There's just so much betrayal and there's so much trauma here. And I think that whenever you're ready to sit down and kind of deal with it without, with it being on your terms, like Danny said, I think it would help you out a lot because you just are so hurt. You know, like there's just so much turmoil inside and that's why you drink. That's why you do the drugs you do is to hide and cover up all this pain that you have.

• 58:06Speaker 03

  And with the relationship, it's all about trust. If you don't have trust, you got nothing.

• 58:10Bunnie XO?

  Right. Absolutely. That's 100% right. And now you've got Danny.

• 58:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, hell yeah. Fuck a queen.

• 58:16Speaker 02

  We know there's no filter here. It works for sure.

• 58:21Bunnie XO?

  So how many days sober are you now?

• 58:22Speaker 03

  Since August 1st.

• 58:24Bunnie XO?

  Okay. So that's, that's actually a good while. Is that the longest you've been sober?

• 58:28Speaker 03

  Well, minus. The Florida Shuffle because I I was forced to be.

• 58:32Bunnie XO?

  Right, right, on your own. This is you on your own. Yeah, that's amazing.

• 58:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:37Bunnie XO?

  Love it. What are you guys' plans to just keep this going? And like, what do you guys do differently now than any other time?

• 58:44Speaker 03

  I had known this. All I needed all along was a structured schedule. It's fun because I had no nine to five job. I had no boss ever tell me what to do. And, you know, I I need a structured bedtime schedule. I know when I'm with her, I'm in bed.

• 59:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I text her last night at like nine thirty.

• 59:06Speaker 02

  Thirty. I woke up this morning. I was like, I missed something. We were in bed. He was already asleep.

• 59:10Speaker 03

  And that's why I love having the dogs because we wake up, I walk the dogs, we take care of them. If I if I can't take care of myself, I can't take care of the dogs. But we walk the dogs, she stretches me, we go to the gym. Then I look for a skate spot. She shoots the skate photo or films it for me. We get it done. We go get something to eat. And then I either paint or read or write or edit or whatever it is. It's a whole fun structured schedule. And Steve O would always tell me, dude, if you just get sober, you'll see that neat things will happen. I'm like, well, I've been sober and the only neat things that happen is nothing because I'm forced to go to treatment. I'm forced to go to AA to learn that alcohol is banned. It's not any good. I'm forced to go to therapy. I'm forced to go to nerve free. Make nothing fun is happening at all.

• 59:52Speaker 02

  I couldn't imagine. Could you? Our personalities, I could not imagine someone making me swallow a pill and put me in a room with no freaking music or my phone or you or a text. They want you to go crazy.

• 1:00:04Speaker 03

  And I gotta say this.

• 1:00:05Speaker 02

  I mean, it's like a setup for disaster.

• 1:00:06Speaker 03

  How come the fucking FBI or no one has done research about this Amanda Rab client at Lima, my guardian? She died under her care and she changed the autopsy saying that it wasn't from what she died from. It was from a cardiac arrest seizure, which is what I started getting as soon as I met her.

• 1:00:24Bunnie XO?

  And it's online. So these things that are being, she's already tried to go after BJ.

• 1:00:28Speaker 02

  She tried, but it's all on the internet. I mean, people are now aware of her lies.

• 1:00:34Bunnie XO?

  People aren't still in her care, are they?

• 1:00:36Speaker 03

  Well, I don't know. They better not be. But she made me, she made me talk about. About this neato fucking helmet that she made.

• 1:00:42Bunnie XO?

  Listen to this.

• 1:00:42Speaker 03

  And I put on this helmet and I'm and she forced me to say how how neat it is and how it helps with therapy. In one eye, you see a little fucking kitten drinking milk. And then the other eye, you see a Tyrannosaurus Rex is coming at you at full speed, trying to eat you. And she's like, which eye do you pick? I picked the kitty cat. You're on the right path. No shit, I'm on the right fucking path. Why would I pick? The left eye, which is a T-Rex coming at me to eat me.

• 1:01:06Speaker 02

  So they're basically using like psychedelic, you know, things to kind of trick your brain.

• 1:01:12Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  And you know, if I I went down the rabbit hole of BJ investigates and that's that's how I, when he was sleeping and resting, I wanted to know and Pamela and BJ are friends and they showed me things that I started to understand the system, even working in the shuffle. I was familiar with it.

• 1:01:29Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  And then watching how they use certain tools to manipulate the brain and they can keep them. So. Um, there's a word for it, but it's it's a very scary.

• 1:01:42Speaker 03

  All BJ investigates wanted to do was free Bam. She started the free Bam movement. So if you're against that, then you're against me.

• 1:01:49Speaker 02

  BJ is a big, big deal with the Free Britney movement. So she's the one in case, not just Bam, but she's uncovered the Wendy Williams recently, Casey Kasem back in the day, like she's someone who is speaking for those.

• 1:01:59Bunnie XO?

  Get her on the podcast.

• 1:02:00Speaker 02

  I would, I'll definitely connect you to. Um, let's not forget, this isn't just happening to famous people. This is happening to someone like you and I. Well, you're, you know.

• 1:02:08Bunnie XO?

  I don't care.

• 1:02:08Speaker 02

  But I mean, just like you and I, like, sitting in a room and your mom thinks you're okay and you're not. Because the person that's in control of you is a liar.

• 1:02:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:17Speaker 02

  And money hungry and.

• 1:02:18Bunnie XO?

  No, we went through this with our daughter. We had, we had to put her in a treatment.

• 1:02:21Speaker 02

  This is awful what they do.

• 1:02:23Bunnie XO?

  Last year in September and I researched everything because I was so scared of something like what happened to you happening to her. So.

• 1:02:30Speaker 02

  It's scary. I mean, yes.

• 1:02:31Bunnie XO?

  Mental health system is a fucking nightmare.

• 1:02:33Speaker 02

  And we definitely don't want to bash the good ones. I'm sorry.

• 1:02:35Speaker 03

  Well, I went to Aurora Mental Health in Pasadena, California, and I was just talking to the other people. I'm like, so what happened to you? He's like, I was just here for a forty eight hour hold. And then they found out that I insurance and I had nowhere to go and I've been here for fucking a hundred and fifty days.

• 1:02:51Speaker 02

  Keep you like a shell, like it's really scary.

• 1:02:54Speaker 03

  And I can't even get on the phone and I don't even know who I would call for help. But they found, I was only on a forty eight hour hold. And then they found out our insurance and I had nowhere to go. I've been here for a hundred and fifty fucking days. I'm like, this is fucked up.

• 1:03:07Speaker 02

  And then if you go and say you kind of need help, like we just had a friend and we're not going to name drop him, but he was going through kind of the same thing that Bam's going through with custody and he said he just had a couple of bad days and he went to fifty one or he went and they fifty one fiftyed him and he had to check out. He was like, I don't belong here. Like I just am having some personal issues and asking for help. They put him in with, you know, the people that really need help. So it's like, you're having a bad day. You can't really get the help. And then once you do, you're labeled, you're in the system and they want your money.

• 1:03:35Speaker 03

  If you're in a mental institution and you're hanging out with dudes that are fucking yelling at the trash can saying, why didn't you marry me? And the other one's trying to fucking French kiss their own sneaker. You're gonna start doing that shit too over time.

• 1:03:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you can't, if you can't beat them, join them.

• 1:03:49Speaker 03

  Why? Cause everybody else.

• 1:03:51Speaker 02

  Just grab your sneaker and make out. It's fine.

• 1:03:53Bunnie XO?

  Oh my God. Bam, just hearing this stuff is just fucking wild, dude. Like it is cra- this is, it hurts my heart for you, honestly.

• 1:04:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, and, and

• 1:04:02Bunnie XO?

  You seem like such a jovial

• 1:04:03Speaker 03

  The best thing to do is just to just shut your fucking cocksucker because the more you talk, the more they can hold against you. My one buddy Hannah, if he called me from the mental, she's like, Bam, you don't understand. I don't belong here. You gotta get me out of here. And I hear kum, kum, kum. I'm like, are you banging your head against the wall? He's like, yeah. I'm like, you just bought yourself another month, you idiot.

• 1:04:19Speaker 02

  Don't do that. Then you're definitely

• 1:04:20Speaker 03

  Don't do that, you hot air buffoon. You just bought yourself, yeah, bang your head against the wall. That's a real good idea.

• 1:04:26Speaker 02

  He's actually really good in the gym too. This one, this one has been giving himself benefits for

• 1:04:31Bunnie XO?

  Let's talk about some good stuff. So what are you doing now that's different? Like you're getting stretched, which I just discovered stretching this year because I too, I heard you say something that you had ripped your thing, your hamstring. I was fucking doing a TikTok thing. I fucking like was joking around and like doing this fucking stupid dance, not like a genuine TikTok dance, but I was like making fun of something and snapped my fucking Achilles heel in half, dude.

• 1:04:56Speaker 02

  That is so painful.

• 1:04:57Bunnie XO?

  Bro, it's still fucked up. And this was on Halloween.

• 1:05:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:01Bunnie XO?

  And I fucking was like, fuck that. I gotta start stretching.

• 1:05:04Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. And, and

• 1:05:05Bunnie XO?

  I guess what I've been doing is stretching and it's phenomenal.

• 1:05:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, I thought that there was, there was no hope for me. Like I was even, I was putting tacks in the, in my calf muscles. Like there was a bunch My friend was like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm putting taxes on it. Why? I'm like, to relieve the pain.

• 1:05:22Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:05:23Speaker 03

  So like, tha- that's how stiff they were from just alcohol abuse and all the medication of side effects of stiff muscles. It was for real. It was that painful. And, and, uh, one yoga guy was like, just reach down and touch your toes. See if you can do that. I doubt I can. And I went and my hamstring popped right here. I was out for a year from that. I, I even, when I got out of treatment, they let me skate a three foot half plate with my friend Jeff Rasp. And I didn't even get to drop in yet. I ran up the three foot ramp and, and basically got such a cramp that I couldn't do it anymore. Tried the easiest trick on the planet, looped out because some little shit ass waxed the coping like a fucking Eskimo. And I hyperextended my elbow to the bone coming out and broke my wrist for the sixteenth time and my arm still won't go straight from it.

• 1:06:08Bunnie XO?

  My gosh.

• 1:06:10Speaker 02

  We'll straighten that shit out too.

• 1:06:11Bunnie XO?

  So stretching, working out, being on a regimen.

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  Dogs.

• 1:06:15Bunnie XO?

  Dogs.

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  He has such a good relationship with them. That's like another thing, um, not to backtrack, but.

• 1:06:20Bunnie XO?

  Did you never have animals before?

• 1:06:23Speaker 03

  I've always had cats because, you know, yeah, but, but anytime I would have a dog, I, I, I leave too much. I travel too much. So a friend would watch them and when a friend watches your dog for a month and it's a brand new puppy, you come back and they're like, I can't give this back to you. I get it.

• 1:06:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, gotcha.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  But you know, Bam, I think a lot of his friends will say like, you know, bringing up how he has been in this world for so long, but he's always had people around him. And sometimes they'll say, gosh, I just can't believe you're letting him go hiking with the dogs. I'm like, letting him hike with the dogs? Like, what do you mean letting him? Like, number one, I get a few free moment to hang out and watch maybe some trash TV for a second. And then, you know, I'm, I'm thinking and, and learning that people have never left, let him be like alone.

• 1:07:09Bunnie XO?

  Let him be a human.

• 1:07:11Speaker 02

  Be in the woods and I've, they've kind of created anxiety for me, which who wants that? I don't want him going, you can't go work out in the woods. You know, it's like, who, who wants that relationship? So if Bam's gonna fuck up, he's gonna fuck up. He knows what he's gonna lose if he fucks up.

• 1:07:24Bunnie XO?

  It sounds like he's finding peace though. I don't feel like you've ever had peace your entire.

• 1:07:32Speaker 03

  Which is one thing that was like, we have such a harmonious, harmonious day. Harmony is what I needed. And, um. Man, I

• 1:07:42Speaker 02

  Just spending time like alone with the dogs and he takes them for hikes, like things that, you know, at forty degree weather, Pennsylvania is very cold for me. So

• 1:07:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:49Speaker 02

  I'm not hiking at five AM with them. I don't want to.

• 1:07:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  But he goes and does that and it gives them time to bond with the dogs and, and it gets him, you know, they have their own little relationship, which I love.

• 1:07:58Speaker 03

  I'm starting to think, you know what, maybe the, the interventionalist really thought that I was schizophrenic because some of the stories that I tell just seems like a nut in treatment. Like I was telling somebody, yeah, so I shipped my purple Lamborghini to North Korea because Kim Jong Il likes sports cars and he wouldn't let me drive it around, but he let me park it at the airport. And then Iggy Pop played my wedding and Billy Idol cut the roof off of the Lamborghini. He's probably like, this guy is fucking batshit crazy, but if you look it up on YouTube, you're gonna find that shit.

• 1:08:26Bunnie XO?

  You've lived twenty lives, dude.

• 1:08:28Speaker 02

  He really has. I mean, the people that he knows are insane.

• 1:08:31Bunnie XO?

  I feel like you

• 1:08:31Speaker 03

  This guy's talking about shipping his Lamborghini for Kim Jong Il? What? Nobody goes to North Korea. He probably doesn't even have a Lamborghini. Fuck you. It's all true.

• 1:08:39Bunnie XO?

  I feel like the reason why you're so happy right now is because you actually don't have to put on a show every day.

• 1:08:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:45Bunnie XO?

  You don't have to please anybody else but yourself and Danny and you're actually just being able to be Bam. And I think you're finding who you are now.

• 1:08:53Speaker 03

  And I have a strict diet. The only thing I eat is pussy meat.

• 1:08:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:58Bunnie XO?

  Well, I mean, that doesn't sound like a bad diet at all. It's not a bad diet. And I mean, I don't blame you. It's like filet mignon over here, you know?

• 1:09:08Speaker 02

  Filet lobster.

• 1:09:11Bunnie XO?

  Are you eating healthier though and stuff like that? I'm sure Danny has you.

• 1:09:14Speaker 03

  Once, once my leg, my body feels so good now that all I want to do is eat right and I, I really don't, I ne- I never thought the day would come to where I, I would stop because it's always free if you're at a nightclub, you wouldn't do a bump in the bathroom? Sure, you know, and then, you know, you get really addicted to it.

• 1:09:36Bunnie XO?

  Not these days, you'll die in the bathroom.

• 1:09:38Speaker 03

  I've, I've been on the ground on this rug with a fucking microscope looking for crumbs, you know, and I'm like, I'm never gonna stop. It's just a matter of time I'm gonna do it again. Now I don't feel that way. You could put it right in front of me, I'll Wash it down the toilet. Don't want any.

• 1:09:52Speaker 02

  But you know, like, people always say, forget the haters online too, like, oh, I can't believe you're fucking bad, blah, blah. Number one, mind your business, fuck who I want. Right. And number two, like, I wasn't gonna leave him as a person. Like, I'm a good person, a people person, and I, you know, the people that I believe were connected to, and when you have a connection, it was, whether we were gonna last sexually or not, or what booty call or not, I still wanted to be his friend. And like, when he, especially in Hollywood, like, it's so hard to find normal people in this world as it is, but when he did have to go to Pennsylvania and we had the two days together, which people don't know, the judge gave him two days with me before I had to leave. And the attorney, because I was upset, and the attorney said, you know, you guys have to have him in by Sunday, and this was Friday. So we had a couple of two really good days, and I remember saying, like,

• 1:10:37Speaker 02

  he just said, just don't leave me here, because they're gonna shuffle me. Like, he knew that if he stayed in the system, we weren't gonna be able to see each other.

• 1:10:45Speaker 03

  What the little tip with my brother, when we went to court, we flew in from California, my Bentley was there parked at the LAX airport, because we thought we were coming right back, we put the dogs up, and, and he's like, you're sentenced to stay in, in Pennsylvania for three months or something. I'm like, but your honor, we live in California, my car's in the airport. Our dogs are there, and my brother lives at my house. So, he's like, ain't my problem. Yeah, it's my problem, it's a fucking big one. So now,

• 1:11:13Speaker 02

  The judge basically said, tell your girlfriend to go get your car. I was like.

• 1:11:16Speaker 03

  I'm like, what do you want me to do? Float around of motel sixes around fucking Pennsylvania all day? Why am I sentenced to be in Pennsylvania? All my stuff, I moved to California. Well, tough shit. Like, yeah, it's very tough.

• 1:11:28Speaker 02

  So that's when you know you like somebody, because basically I had to fly back to LA by myself, had a lot to think about, and then I went to my best friend Heather's house, in Hollywood and La Brea, and I'm like, and his good friend Dre, you know, a few good people, I said, what do I do? And they're like, go get him. He had eight days, and he said, if you don't come get me on the eighth day, they're gonna keep me here. So basically everyone gathered, it got his, I got his Bentley. They checked the oil. They made sure it was fine. I grabbed the dogs. Heather packed me up. Dre packed me up.

• 1:11:54Bunnie XO?

  Two dogs in the Bentley?

• 1:11:56Speaker 02

  Two dogs in the Bentley and me and enough to get across.

• 1:11:58Bunnie XO?

  That's a fucking, that's a TV show.

• 1:12:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, it took me five days to get there.

• 1:12:02Speaker 03

  It really like made me appreciate everything again. Well, we'll be on a road trip and I'll just like pull over on the side of the road. She'll be like, what are you doing? I'm like, just appreciating this view for a moment.

• 1:12:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:13Speaker 03

  Like you gotta understand.

• 1:12:14Speaker 02

  Probably sees it different than we do.

• 1:12:15Speaker 03

  I was locked away, like the only outside I got to see was a fucking barbed wire fence to smoke a cigarette.

• 1:12:22Speaker 02

  Brutal.

• 1:12:23Bunnie XO?

  God, it's like prison.

• 1:12:24Speaker 03

  And it's such a dick tease because the beach is literally right there.

• 1:12:27Speaker 02

  This doesn't feel helpful.

• 1:12:28Bunnie XO?

  That's terrible.

• 1:12:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, they make it seem all nice on the brochure. It's right by the beach in Delray. Yeah, but I'm locked up and the beach is right there and you won't even let me go to it.

• 1:12:38Bunnie XO?

  That is so sad. So you guys are engaged now?

• 1:12:42Speaker 02

  We are.

• 1:12:43Bunnie XO?

  Is there gonna be a wedding?

• 1:12:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, yes, but we wanted to.

• 1:12:46Bunnie XO?

  Okay, I wanna be the, I wanna be the flower girl.

• 1:12:48Speaker 02

  Okay, perfect. I don't have one.

• 1:12:49Bunnie XO?

  And Jay gets to be the ring bearer.

• 1:12:50Speaker 02

  Yay.

• 1:12:52Bunnie XO?

  No, we don't want to take it from Phoenix.

• 1:12:53Speaker 03

  We really want, you know, like Yellow Wolf or Tokyo Hotel or something to

• 1:12:59Speaker 03

  play during it. And that's not an easy thing because you need the lighting and the stage and all that. So it's not something that's gonna happen soon. We're gonna plan this really well.

• 1:13:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, it happened, you know, it was just a fun day. And then I forget that people zoom in on us now.

• 1:13:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:13Speaker 02

  So I, I wasn't gonna take the ring off, even though it was like a cute little antique. He made me pick his hand. He's like, pick a hand.

• 1:13:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, tell me how it happened. How to be asking.

• 1:13:21Speaker 02

  So there was this house in Pennsylvania, Miss Pamela, Mrs. Pamela Duff that they have that has a waterfall and a lot of potential to live.

• 1:13:29Speaker 03

  The Duff family, Ed Duff is a pro skateboarder for Tony Hawk's company, Birdhouse. And me and him are friends. And when I had nowhere to go and I'm sentenced to stay in Pennsylvania and I can't even go home, he said, come stay with it because they own Duff Electric. They have a bunch of properties.

• 1:13:43Bunnie XO?

  And you couldn't stay in your own house or you didn't want to?

• 1:13:45Speaker 03

  So they took us in and um, they had this really nice house that, that they wanted to, that they just owned, but it, it needs a lot of work and it's right on the Delaware River in this cool town called New Hope, which is like this cool little Wix town.

• 1:13:58Speaker 02

  But you're gonna leave out a fun detail and the girls need a detail.

• 1:14:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, we need the, we need the girly details.

• 1:14:03Speaker 02

  Details. I'm a butterfly mom. I raise butterflies. I've been doing it for like nine years. I want to be a bee mom one day too. So I saw potential at this place. He was talking skate parks. I saw the waterfall. Pamela just would love for us to live there because she's ready for another project.

• 1:14:17Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  And I see in the front, I'm like, oh, that'd be a cool butterfly garden, you know? And I'm like, looking around because it used to be a restaurant. So there's a lot of potential, but could be a little crazy. So as we're like driving, which I thought when we were in the Poconos, I was in the worst outfit, this purple jumpsuit with a beanie. And he takes me to this like heart shaped hotel and I'm like, not in this outfit. Please lord, no. I was thinking like, I hope he's not being like romantic and weird. This heart, you know what I mean? It was like heart shaped. I'm like, okay. Not looking too good. Long story short, it was that night.

• 1:14:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:50Speaker 02

  That we left that place. Nothing happened. So I was like, oh, cool. It was like, that was fun. So we're like driving, driving, driving, and he literally goes, oh, my gosh, do you know? And it was pitch black. It was like 10 o'clock at night and he's like.

• 1:15:00Speaker 03

  Well, we were just having such a good road trip, listening to all of our favorite music. And I noticed that that was the house that we wanted to fix up and everything. So I just pulled over.

• 1:15:11Speaker 02

  In the butterfly garden.

• 1:15:12Speaker 03

  I had these rings in my hand. Once, once I kissed her at the, at the Dove property, I threw the rings near the waterfall and they're still sitting in there somewhere. We haven't been back long enough to go find them again.

• 1:15:24Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so he proposed to you with the rings? Pick one and then threw them.

• 1:15:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:29Bunnie XO?

  Such a Bam move.

• 1:15:31Speaker 02

  And I'm like, okay. And then he like sat up against this little wall and he's like, will you marry me? And I'm like, are you fucking around? Like, are you kidding or whatever? Because we were like sitting in that little butterfly garden and it was just like super cute and romantic. He knows I'm not like all blingy and need anything crazy. So it was just really fun. And I, and I was like, well, duh, yeah. Like, if you're being serious, you know, we kept it quiet for a little bit. But then, of course, those little people out there got a hold of my finger and we're zooming in. So they started asking questions. I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess I should say something. Then a really good friend of mine asked, so I told her yes. And then that's how we know Leanne with us. So you're in good hands with her because she's like, can I talk about it? And I just looked at him. I'm like, well, I'd rather someone talk about it from us before they start talking about it.

• 1:16:12Bunnie XO?

  Before the rumors start. Yeah.

• 1:16:14Speaker 02

  So then I was like, all right, let's talk to her. And here we are. It's been crazy.

• 1:16:18Bunnie XO?

  So what does 2024 have for Bam and Danny? What do you guys have planned? I know you guys are doing all these horror cons and.

• 1:16:24Speaker 02

  We're booked to like October, which is exciting.

• 1:16:26Speaker 03

  Die and save the world or what?

• 1:16:28Speaker 02

  We skate, we save. Well, I'm the big animal.

• 1:16:31Speaker 03

  To save the world or what we can of it tour.

• 1:16:33Speaker 02

  So like he skates and I'm like checking it. We were in New Orleans and the people are just walking over the pit bull and then all glam. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna cry. Glam's gone. I'm like holding the pit bull. He was all broken.

• 1:16:45Speaker 03

  And everybody walking past the dog like he's just searching for food and starving to death. They're just like, look at, they didn't want anything to do with it. And she gets out. She's all done up like this because we have to go to a horror comic con.

• 1:16:57Speaker 02

  I just picked the dog up.

• 1:16:58Speaker 03

  And we're in the ghetto at the skate park under a bridge. They're probably like, who is this chick that just pulled up in a purple fucking Bentley to save this dog with fleas all over it?

• 1:17:06Speaker 02

  Don't care. But then, you know, the skater community, people don't understand how rad they are. Yeah. So these two like rad chicks come over their skater. Do you need help? These skater chicks? And I said, well, I just called the SPCA and she happened to have a five, six, one number, West Palm, me. I had the same area code. So she scooped them right up, took them out of hell and it's just, it's, it's a good balance because I'm not a skateboarder, but I can kind of fit in anywhere. And you know, the skate parks we go to unfortunately aren't very, you know, they're not in the best areas. So you see a lot.

• 1:17:37Speaker 03

  And you can always find weed there.

• 1:17:39Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, true. But you know, you see like the cats and the dogs and it's, it's, it's sad because to bring up the world we live in, everyone wants to play pickleball and tennis and basketball when the skate parks are like in the middle of bad places that you really don't want to take your six year old after five, five o'clock. So those are the places that we're hitting up and opening my eyes to this world needs to change.

• 1:17:59Speaker 03

  And we'll be sitting there fucking planning shit and I'll be like, I thought the rule is no phones. Hold on. I'm saving a goat from fucking Idaho right now. I'm like, give me that. You really are doing that.

• 1:18:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. We have like a phone thing, but I'm like, hold on. I have to pledge on this elephant real quick. That is hilarious. It's true. Like most of the time I'm on my phone. I'm just yelling at the mayor of LA or screaming with PETA. So.

• 1:18:23Speaker 03

  What are you doing? I'm calling 911. Why?

• 1:18:25Speaker 02

  Pedal him a duck.

• 1:18:26Speaker 03

  Cause this guy got arrested for trying to save dogs. He gets a trespass card. Yeah, what's up with that Wayne?

• 1:18:32Speaker 02

  Wayne and Zoe Rooster, you're gonna see, hopefully the Today Show here soon, they're ready.

• 1:18:36Bunnie XO?

  I love that. I want to tell you guys, when Jay and I first got together, we immediately went out on tour, and it's the best bonding experience for a couple. It will either make or break you. You guys are either meant to be together or not. Once you guys are in a car, fucking traveling all the time, like, working together, that's when you really figure out what you guys are about. And you fall in love fast, because you get to know somebody so personally and so quickly.

• 1:18:59Speaker 03

  Totally. And there's a lot of things that I didn't know, you know? If we show up in Indiana and I have a bunch of friends there to do a Comic Con and we're only there for two days, like, she'll be like, "I know you guys got to see him, and I'm sorry, but we're having fucking date night tonight." Because, you know, I'm like, "Cool," you know? I've never had the courage to say that.

• 1:19:14Speaker 02

  I'm like, "It's 8:00 PM, it's over."

• 1:19:15Speaker 03

  "Everybody come along to date night."

• 1:19:18Speaker 02

  I'm like, "It's 8:00 PM, we're done." He's like, "Another hour?" Nope, I'm in bed by 10, Dateline's on, I need Keith Morrison.

• 1:19:24Bunnie XO?

  I think he needs you, because nobody's ever really been able to not tell you no. Or like, I don't even know if the word, I think it's you guys run wild together. You just have more structured wildness.

• 1:19:36Speaker 02

  Structured wild.

• 1:19:37Speaker 03

  You know, I'm sitting in a hotel, it's 10 o'clock, and I'm just like, "You have tamed the Apollo." I'm all sitting there, what is that supposed to mean? You've tamed the Apollo? What do you mean? You've got me in bed by 10, I'm very, you've tamed the Apollo.

• 1:19:50Bunnie XO?

  And then you really just go to sleep, or you don't have sleeping problems or anything?

• 1:19:54Speaker 03

  No, I was always on so much Trazodone in Syracuse, and I thought I needed that to sleep, but at the end of the day, I'm so exhausted from skating and going to the gym and, you know, having such a fun, productive day that I sleep on time.

• 1:20:07Bunnie XO?

  Are you 100% sober? Like, raw dog in life?

• 1:20:10Speaker 03

  Just a couple puffs of weed.

• 1:20:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's sober to me. Yeah, that's sober to me.

• 1:20:14Speaker 02

  And he has a medical card, people, relax.

• 1:20:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I don't think weed, there's a, you know, there's, everybody has a different definition of sober. I'm completely straight edge.

• 1:20:21Speaker 03

  Dream water and skateboarding is my medicine.

• 1:20:23Speaker 02

  Because someone just told that the other day, they were like, "Well, then you're not 100% sober." I'm like, "You need to chill, like, he's fine."

• 1:20:28Bunnie XO?

  There's California sober and there's straight edge. I'm straight edge, my husband's California sober. He'll drink and he smokes weed all day, you know? So, some people have to have a vice, you know? I would love to have a vice, but my anxiety, the way it's set up, I can't, so it's like, I have to just...

• 1:20:41Speaker 03

  Skateboarding and pussy meat, my life.

• 1:20:43Speaker 02

  See, weed for me is something that just levels my brain out, so that's why I smoke.

• 1:20:46Bunnie XO?

  I'm never gonna call a vagina a vagina again, it's strictly pussy meat from now on.

• 1:20:50Speaker 02

  That's, that was the word of the month when we first started dating at the restaurants. I was like, "Can we not say that in the middle of 4:00 PM?" Geez.

• 1:20:59Bunnie XO?

  Aw.

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  He'd be like, is her pussy meat on the menu? I'm like, oh my God. I'm just gonna go to the bathroom.

• 1:21:05Bunnie XO?

  Oh my God.

• 1:21:06Speaker 03

  Shock value, that's what I'm after. You know how to handle it.

• 1:21:08Bunnie XO?

  I think you guys are fucking adorable and I love seeing him so happy. Like that really makes me happy to see him just smiling.

• 1:21:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, learning like the, you guys and the fans that have loved him so much are teaching me like where he really was. I mean, I knew he had some things going on, but when, when I'm, you know, the best part about working with him and seeing, you know, helping run the show and make sure he's downstairs and the fan, you know, I say hi to them. They're so, most of the time they've been really nice to me. I know it's just the trolls. His fans that are in line are very sweet to me. They're not.

• 1:21:37Bunnie XO?

  Bam's iconic.

• 1:21:38Speaker 02

  They're not coming up trying to spit in my face or whatever, but you know, they're teaching me so much about him and I love all the people that are coming up and saying that you're helping them get through recovery or they're just so proud of you to be back on the skateboard. It's amazing to see the skateboarding community. They're so stoked to see him back on the skateboard.

• 1:21:54Bunnie XO?

  There's so many people rooting for you.

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  I'm learning like what a badass skateboarder he was. I, and it.

• 1:21:58Bunnie XO?

  You have to watch all the CKYs. You have to make her watch. Slumber one day and do that. You have to watch them because then you'll really.

• 1:22:04Speaker 03

  She's seen like bits and pieces. The last one she saw, she's like, so hold on. Ryan Dunn was drunk at the bar in Westchester.

• 1:22:12Speaker 02

  I saw that one.

• 1:22:13Speaker 03

  He's like all drunk. He's like, if we're in Iceland tomorrow, I would have gone off that water, that forty foot waterfall. I'm like, but you didn't last time because you pushed out. Yeah, but if we're there tomorrow, I would do it. I'm like, sign this right here. Next day he wakes up and I'm like, you signed the contract and I bought eight tickets to Iceland. He's like, son of a bitch. So we get there, we didn't even scope anything out. I found a random ass barrel on the side of the road, sealed it up, pushed him off head first by accident. She's like.

• 1:22:38Speaker 02

  I'm like, you did that to Ryan? I'm like.

• 1:22:40Speaker 03

  You pushed him head first. What if something bad happened? I'm like, we really didn't think about that. We're fucking punk ass kids. So you guys are fucking crazy.

• 1:22:48Bunnie XO?

  What's your relationship with Vili Valo now?

• 1:22:51Speaker 03

  It's good. We saw him, um, at his last tour in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. We went up with Jimmy Pop from the Bloodhound Gang and, um.

• 1:23:00Speaker 03

  It was rad catching up with him, but, um.

• 1:23:02Speaker 02

  Quiet, quiet, quiet.

• 1:23:03Speaker 03

  You know, the last time. The first time he went to treatment, we were at the Chateau Marmont and we just got a deal signed for him to be on Warner. They got a really good deal and um, he was drinking a lot and he knew I had a prescription of Adderall and he kept asking me for one. And I'm like, dude, I've given you enough and and he's like, I'm like, you know what? Just because it's you, I'm not gonna say no. So he like started hyperventilating and an ambulance came and that was the first time he went to treatment and I think Warner Brothers found out that I was the one that had my prescription that he kept asking for. Which kinda sucks because you know, I didn't drink at all. I didn't drink till I was well

• 1:23:48Speaker 03

  23 years old and all that. And when I was hanging out with him in Helsinki, Finland, I was so mesmerized by just how rad he was that when we stayed in the same hotel together, he opened up the minibar and cracked open a beer. I'm like, you're just drinking in the day? I thought people only do that at nighttime. That's crazy. He's like, I'm like, I'm not gonna let you do it alone. So that was the first time I've been introduced to like day drinking. That's crazy. Tables turned to where I'm the fucking bad. When did you start using drugs? Probably about.

• 1:24:18Bunnie XO?

  Tell the truth.

• 1:24:19Speaker 03

  I'd say 24 or 25. That's wild. I would've thought it would've been so younger. We were in Davos, Switzerland, doing this thing called the Winter Jam for MTV. Sum 41 was playing and this band called Guano Apes and Jackass was there to host the whole thing. And I remember we were staying at this nice hotel in the Alps and somebody like started putting these lines out on the table and that was the first time I tried it. And I had a massage booked right after that. I'm like. Oh, God. I got a massage. Alright, if everybody else is doing it, I'll do it. And I did it. I was getting a massage like, I can't even relax.

• 1:24:57Bunnie XO?

  God, I couldn't imagine my first fucking bump of coke and I'm getting massaged. I would go crazy. There's no way.

• 1:25:03Speaker 03

  But never, always terrified of a needle, never messed with heroin or anything.

• 1:25:07Speaker 02

  I was surprised to hear that.

• 1:25:08Bunnie XO?

  What's the hardest drugs you've done?

• 1:25:10Speaker 03

  Probably just meth and coke, anything upper.

• 1:25:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:13Speaker 03

  You know, like I

• 1:25:14Bunnie XO?

  Shocking.

• 1:25:14Speaker 03

  I don't know why people would do heroin or Valium and show up to a bar and fall asleep into their beer. It makes no sense.

• 1:25:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I used to be one of those. I loved Xanax.

• 1:25:22Speaker 03

  The dope fiend lean.

• 1:25:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, Xanax was my shit.

• 1:25:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was an upper person.

• 1:25:26Bunnie XO?

  Anna Nicole, I used to call myself Xan.

• 1:25:27Speaker 03

  Like, I would only take that if it was on like an airplane.

• 1:25:30Speaker 02

  At least you owned it.

• 1:25:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:31Speaker 03

  But man, you have one beer on a Xanax, you're fucking lary.

• 1:25:34Bunnie XO?

  Oh, lit, just lit. It's a party.

• 1:25:36Speaker 02

  There's the closet problems.

• 1:25:39Bunnie XO?

  I appreciate you guys coming on the podcast and I look forward to seeing you guys just blossom. And I really feel like this is a new friendship for all of us too. Because my husband loves you and I love you. So, yeah.

• 1:25:50Speaker 02

  I already told Jen and Jesse.

• 1:25:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:53Speaker 02

  We need to, us three can be on the bus and you guys can get your own bus.

• 1:25:57Bunnie XO?

  Are you guys gonna come see us on tour?

• 1:25:58Speaker 02

  We are. San Antonio.

• 1:26:00Bunnie XO?

  Yay. Yeah, come to a show. We always have so much fun and it's, I have, the girls have their own bus. The boys have their own bus and I know all the, the band would love to see you guys.

• 1:26:09Speaker 02

  And I'll steal Melissa. I want to let them know Melissa Quinn, Michael Quinn, um, they're, they love you. So the boys will be together. We'll steal her. Melissa actually manifested this. I love her.

• 1:26:18Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 1:26:19Speaker 02

  Saying that you and I would get along great. And that was literally two days later. I had your phone number. I'm like, this is crazy.

• 1:26:25Bunnie XO?

  Ah, I love it. I'm so happy that we were able to work this out.

• 1:26:30Speaker 02

  No, well, hopefully Jenna can come, but Melissa and Michael will go.

• 1:26:33Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:26:33Speaker 02

  Meet her then, yeah.

• 1:26:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Well, thank you guys for coming. What, you got, you want to shout out your socials so everybody, I'm sure everybody knows where to find you.

• 1:26:39Speaker 02

  Oh, they know me.

• 1:26:40Bunnie XO?

  January official.

• 1:26:41Speaker 03

  I'm Captain Cream Stain or Captain Crumblay or something. I don't know.

• 1:26:46Bunnie XO?

  Just save a dog. Just Google Bam Margera. You guys will find everything.

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  I think maybe the fans are realizing, like, they wanted to see me, uh, every now and then, but I'm just gonna blast them with shelter dogs. So please adopt.

• 1:26:56Bunnie XO?

  I, yeah, I watched your story the other day and it was all dogs. I was like, I love this girl.

• 1:27:00Speaker 02

  I go through my moments where I'm like, shh, shh, shh.

• 1:27:03Bunnie XO?

  Then I might calm down.

• 1:27:04Speaker 03

  Everybody wants to give shout outs and plugs, everything. I give a plug to curiosity doughnuts from fucking Doylestown. They're awesome.

• 1:27:11Bunnie XO?

  Ah, I love that.

• 1:27:13Speaker 03

  They only open on Wednesdays because they make them so fresh.

• 1:27:15Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God. We'll have to try it on tour. We'll go on tour. We'll literally say Bam recommended this and do a whole TikTok on it. It'll be awesome.

• 1:27:23Speaker 03

  Black Rifle Coffee, rock and roll.

• 1:27:25Bunnie XO?

  Thank you, guys, so much for coming.

• 1:27:27Speaker 02

  You're stuck with us.

• 1:27:28Bunnie XO?

  I appreciate you.

• 1:27:29Speaker 02

  You too.

• 1:27:29Bunnie XO?

  Thank you, guys, for tuning into another episode of Done Blonde. I'll see you, guys, next week. Bye.