The Jerker Episode

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30Speaker 01

  Good evening, gentle listeners or watchers, and welcome to Distractible. This episode, Wallowing Wade gets bumped from the book, then indulges in deep weepies. Mysterious Mark refuses chitchat, foreshadows fear, has an anniversary, remembers Henry, and brain boggles. Bibliographic Bob translates for the heart of thinking, finds French cleats, goes gambling, and maintains morale with hope. From Guam resets to missing zombie. Heh heh heh heh heh. It's time for the Jerker episode.

• 1:11Speaker 01

  Now, sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show.

• 1:19Speaker 02

  Hey, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Distractible. I'm today's host again. Yes, I am part of this show. You might have forgotten because it's been so long between my hosting times.

• 1:30Speaker 03

  Oh, I didn't know we started. Sorry, I forgot Wade could host these.

• 1:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, I didn't know who was talking, but if you want to redo something, you got to go to Guam first, then come back and restart.

• 1:40Speaker 02

  I'm way too lazy to even ask to be sent to Guam, so I guess that won't happen to me, but we'll just keep it.

• 1:46Speaker 02

  As you all can see, I'm joined as always by my co-hosts and today's competitors, Mark and Bob.

• 1:51Speaker 03

  Hello.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  Is it weird to have you two pitted against each other because it happens so infrequently?

• 1:56Speaker 03

  I mean, he and I are clearly on the same team here, so it's really not that.

• 1:59Speaker 02

  To be really awkward for the score, then maybe I'll just host forever. The last one I hosted, I think, was the Choose Your Own Adventure, right?

• 2:07Speaker 02

  In today's episode, we're going to start it the same way. We do all of these things where I give these guys a platform to talk about their lives, themselves, what's new, whatever they want, I guess. So what's up, guys?

• 2:19Speaker 04

  Doing stuff and things, very important things, very big important things, the likes of which you wouldn't even believe what I'm doing. Always an interesting thing, Mark, coming in. What craziness am I up to this week? What have I built in what room? Nobody knows. Whoa.

• 2:34Speaker 02

  I'm going to give you the gave us no details point.

• 2:38Speaker 03

  It was full of details.

• 2:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  Is this a detail?

• 2:46Speaker 02

  Turned into a zombie? What's happening?

• 2:53Speaker 04

  Oh, this is an ad for the Scary Tapes episodes coming up soon. Yes, that's it. That's it. That's it. The Scary Tapes are coming up. You finally got there.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  Wow, that was clever.

• 3:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, it was. I'm very clever, but we got there eventually. Anyway, Scary Tapes, as we all know, something I'm very in charge of and responsible for and can take the credit for. It's very scary. Very scary times are ahead. Very, very. Everyone should run. Start screaming now so that you, you know, you can get ahead of the other screams. Your screams will actually be heard now if you start screaming before everyone else screams, which they will.

• 3:33Speaker 02

  That was such a high level, like, way to describe that, that was like kind of over our dumb heads.

• 3:39Speaker 04

  No, I don't have a dumb head.

• 3:41Speaker 02

  There's not an insult to you, Bob, but do you want to give us the dumber explanation of what the Scary Tapes are and what's upcoming?

• 3:47Speaker 04

  Stories. Too scary.

• 3:52Speaker 03

  AI. Oh, well, and that's confusing. They're written by people. They're written by, they're written about AI. It's speculative horror about, but they're all human.

• 4:01Speaker 02

  So we're going to be doing, is it five episodes where we read one per episode? Is that how it's going?

• 4:05Speaker 03

  Yep, we got five winners and there's five Fridays in October, leading up to the penultimate Friday, right? The Fafter Halloween?

• 4:13Speaker 04

  Buffafter? Buffafter?

• 4:16Speaker 03

  It's right before. I knew that. It's right before.

• 4:18Speaker 02

  Oh, man, thank God. I thought it was going to be Buffafter.

• 4:21Speaker 03

  But yeah, no, it should be cool. There's also going to be a book, Scary Tapes Anthology, because there were so many good. We got so many more submissions than expected. There's going to be a hardcover book that's going to have the five winners plus additional stories that were also so good. We just can't make an infinite number of podcast episodes about them.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  My name was almost going to be in that book.

• 4:40Speaker 03

  It could still be it. It just can't be in the good ones.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  I was within about five seconds of having my name in the good parts of that book, but man, Bob and someone else, really, if you know, you know, I got beaten to the punch. It was a crazy time, so look forward to that. That's coming up in October, which is now almost.

• 4:56Speaker 03

  I've been married for a year now.

• 4:58Speaker 02

  Oh, that's right. Congratulations.

• 4:59Speaker 04

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. One year anniversary came up. I remembered it.

• 5:03Speaker 02

  That's good.

• 5:04Speaker 04

  I did. I did. I remembered it. No, I just know if that was you throwing shade, like, at least I remembered it.

• 5:10Speaker 03

  I thought you were calling us out because I didn't, I didn't like send you a message or anything. Traditionally, people may send you a message. It's like, hey, happy anniversary. And I didn't. I am the one who receives those messages, just to be clear, but.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, you really should have gotten married on one of our birthdays. It makes it easier to remember each year.

• 5:25Speaker 04

  I mean, it's true. It's true, but then, you know, I would disappoint everyone of forgetting about everything.

• 5:30Speaker 03

  Hey, get it all, you get it out of the way.

• 5:32Speaker 02

  Get it all at once. Just one day.

• 5:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, it focuses it in and you just tone, tune it all out and then move on. It's fine.

• 5:39Speaker 02

  One bad day a year and then you move on. I don't know if I'm starting this off correctly, but congrats, man. That's honestly, it goes by fast.

• 5:46Speaker 04

  Yes, it does. It really did. It was a kind of a shock of being like, oh, shit. Well, all right.

• 5:51Speaker 02

  I feel that, and I think Bob and Mandy feel that even more than I do because they've been married the longest here.

• 5:58Speaker 03

  Oh, I actually do have small talk.

• 5:59Speaker 04

  He wasn't even looking. He was looking to my cool device. Keeps cold, keeps cans cold.

• 6:03Speaker 03

  Tact, wait, is that, is that like a frost buddy?

• 6:06Speaker 04

  I don't know what is frost buddy.

• 6:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it's a frost buddy. It's a thing keeps cans cold. I have one of those for, what, for energy drinks?

• 6:13Speaker 02

  Man, I don't even drink cold water. Just broom temp.

• 6:16Speaker 03

  I talked about this on the last one. My foot is better, which means I can do stuff again.

• 6:21Speaker 04

  Guys.

• 6:22Speaker 03

  I'm going to be a woodworker again. Now that I'm allowed to walk, I definitely won't hurt myself and I definitely won't hurt my foot. I have a deck box to build and I have, I have plans and ideas and I have, there's a wall that needs to be framed in in the basement. I can probably do that. I think I can do everything. I'm invincible now, but mostly I have a table saw now, which is possibly the most dangerous tool that I own, but I'm very excited about it.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  Not if you use your feet to solve things, then you won't lose a finger.

• 6:53Speaker 03

  Well, if that is the explicit goal.

• 6:55Speaker 02

  I hear all the time about people losing fingers and stuff on table saws. I never hear about people losing feet or toes.

• 6:59Speaker 03

  All right, I hate to admit it, but I guess he has a point. Okay, I have a table saw and I solemnly oath, I will use only my feet and lose no fingers.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  All right, my man.

• 7:10Speaker 03

  Who needs feet anyway? It's not like I just had a big wound on my foot or anything to worry about. It'll be fine.

• 7:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, you've got extra strong feet now. You've healed. You have super feet. Are you going to make, do you have plans to make anything like specific or anything cool?

• 7:21Speaker 03

  Uh, mostly little stuff. I have sketched out a design for a wall of French cleats, which is really good because it lets you do modular storage. A French cleat is basically where you take like a one by four or one by, or two by four, and you cut a 45 degree angle on one edge of it, and then you put it on the wall so that the angle is up. And then you do the same thing on like a cabinet or something, but then when you slide it on the wall, they like angle into each other so that it attaches. Just a really firm way that you can attach a thing to a wall where it will be really solid, but also you could just move them around. And I want to build a modular French cleat wall of storage and stuff, or all my cool stuff to hang on the walls. Also, because I haven't been like walking and stuff, the garage is just a huge pile

• 8:06Speaker 03

  of shit, so I have to start by kind of cleaning the things I haven't been taking care of. But then, the sky's the limit. A birdhouse? Who knows?

• 8:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, I usually hear people that start with woodworking instead of making the birdhouse, they start with French cleating and then they go to bird housing.

• 8:23Speaker 03

  I mean, French cleaning is like the easiest thing you could do because all you have to do is cut one thing a couple of times and then screw it on the wall, but I'm glad it sounds fancy.

• 8:30Speaker 02

  It does. It sounds very.

• 8:31Speaker 04

  It does sound fancy. Yeah, it does.

• 8:33Speaker 02

  Like, oh, nice boxes. Actually, they're French cleats.

• 8:37Speaker 03

  I'm just really excited about it because I, I got this table saw right before I wasn't allowed to do anything, so I haven't actually used it yet. It makes me feel kind of bummed out, but I'm back. I'm so back.

• 8:47Speaker 02

  Bummed out.

• 8:48Speaker 03

  But what?

• 8:49Speaker 02

  Mark, Bob, I'm so excited for you, Bob. Bummed out. You get the segue point because we are in Sad Part Six.

• 8:58Speaker 01

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  Wrong and probably cut out.

• 9:06Speaker 03

  I, yeah, I was just thinking, is that gonna be words or beeps in the final cut? I would love to know.

• 9:15Speaker 04

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• 9:31Speaker 03

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• 9:32Speaker 04

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  Did I get them right?

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  Ah, that was only four.

• 10:13Speaker 04

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• 10:31Speaker 02

  Like the Swiss Army knife of charging.

• 10:33Speaker 04

  For the longest time until this came out, I was always like, man, why don't any of my power banks that I've had charge a watch? That was the big thing for me, right? Cause you could, you could plug your, anything into a power bank and it'll charge your phone or whatever, it's fine. But this one literally is the only thing you need to bring, which is sick. You don't need to bring your little watch dongle charger, you don't need to bring, if you bring this with you and like a, a thing to plug it into the wall, it'll charge all your shit, literally all of it.

• 11:02Speaker 02

  That is so compact. We still have one of those old chargers that like, is actually like holding a brick and you have to bring your own cable? So this thing is that small and has two wires in it?

• 11:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, it, the reason it is, and this is getting into the technical parameters of it, is most every power bank that you can get off the shelf has those Panasonic cylindrical cells and they're made up of those. This actually has their own designed, flat like, like you see in phones and laptops, they have flat pack lithium batteries in here. That's why it's, it's designed specifically to be, you know, compact and better.

• 11:35Speaker 02

  I'm glad you two were in on this ad and I was not because I think it worked and I'm gonna go buy one, cause that's so nice compared to what I use. What the heck?

• 11:44Speaker 03

  It's my favorite power bank I've ever owned. Uh, Mark and I are both huge tech guys and I, it's like the only thing you need. It's crazy.

• 11:52Speaker 04

  Oh, it's got a kickstand too.

• 11:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, it, so it attaches to the back of your phone if your phone has MagSafe, so it literally, you can use it to like sit your phone up to watch a thing while it charge it.

• 12:03Speaker 05

  It does everything.

• 12:05Speaker 02

  That beats this thing I've been carrying around everywhere.

• 12:08Speaker 03

  I honestly even use mine around the house, cause like, we have phone chargers around, but sometimes you're in that one spot on the couch where it's like, well, none, none of the phone chargers reach over here or whatever. Power bank, don't matter.

• 12:20Speaker 04

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• 12:30Speaker 02

  Who's lifetime? Like ours? It's lifetime, as long as it's alive, you have a warranty on it, like, huh?

• 12:36Speaker 03

  Don't worry, everybody, it's definitely longer than Wade's lifetime.

• 12:40Speaker 04

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  Please tell them, please.

• 13:43Speaker 04

  You have to tell them.

• 13:47Speaker 02

  Well, as I was saying last week, we've got a less fun week ahead and there's a lot of things weighing down, so, uh, I don't know what you guys do. Whenever I get sad, I go and I like find sad clips on the internet. I'm like, you know what? I'm sad. Let's go find something to cry about. Like, not, not like necessarily sad, but like tearjerker stuff like, oh, this guy's seeing his dog for the first time in four years, cause he went to the war. I wanna cry, let's listen to sad songs, I wanna cry, like, I, I don't know, I seek out sad, so I've got sad on the mind and, uh, there's a lot of, there's a lot of sad. So, we're gonna, we're gonna get some of the sad out. This is your, grab your Kleenex, not the lotion for this one unless, just the Kleenex, cause this is the tearjerker episode.

• 14:28Speaker 04

  Don't say unless, you're opening things up for people.

• 14:31Speaker 02

  Well, it, it still is jerker, it could be, still be the jerker episode, but it's supposed to be for tears.

• 14:35Speaker 03

  It's not unless, no.

• 14:37Speaker 02

  Put the lube away, Tim.

• 14:38Speaker 04

  I know you're retired from Apple, but you gotta put it away, man. You got a lot of free time on your hands, you just can't do that.

• 14:46Speaker 03

  Gotta find new stuff to enjoy, moved on.

• 14:50Speaker 02

  So yeah, we're gonna get the sad out.

• 14:51Speaker 03

  You seek those out though? I thought you were just gonna say like, social media delivers, cause whether I want it or not, I feel like all of my social media feeds are just some amalgamation of different versions of sad things for me to cry about while I'm trying to go to the bathroom.

• 15:06Speaker 02

  No, there are just times where I'm like, I feel like I need to get it out of my system, so I seek out the stuff that I know is gonna get the, the wells flowing.

• 15:14Speaker 04

  Really? I don't know, I'm saying that like, nah, like, like I'm a, it, I'm an investigator and you're a criminal and I'm interrogating you. Oh, really? Oh, really?

• 15:22Speaker 02

  It's not something I talk about. I don't really talk about it with anybody, but I do. I, I'll have nights where I just go to my computer, I'm like, I'm just gonna spend an hour looking through things that make me wanna well up, cause I just wanna get it out of my system.

• 15:32Speaker 03

  Does that work for you? That does not make it better for me.

• 15:35Speaker 02

  Not that night, but sometimes the next day I'll feel better. Like, I'll go to bed and like, there'll still be like, tears flowing, it's like, oh, my pillow, got tears on my pillow. The next day I'll wake up, I'm usually feeling better.

• 15:44Speaker 04

  And are you controlling for, you know, not doing that and then waking up? Maybe it was just the night of sleep that got you better.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  If you do it every night, it doesn't count.

• 15:51Speaker 02

  It's not very frequent. This is like, uh, maybe two to three times a year thing that I do. Where I've just like, I don't know, I feel like getting the pent up emotion out. I, I don't, it's not even like, sometimes it's like, that's what I plan to do. I just go to my computer, I'm like, maybe I'll see a recommended video, it's like, hmm, you know what? This is one of those nights. So I've not actually had one in a minute, even though this is all going on right now, it's been a while since I've done it, but it's just on my mind. Maybe today will be the day. Uh, you guys can bring up whatever you wanna talk about. I've, I've got some stuff here and they're not necessarily like the saddest things in the world, they're just things that like, I think about and it's like, man, kinda hate that. For example, uh, one thing that we've always tried to avoid promoting, I think, as a group, is like sports betting type stuff, right?

• 16:33Speaker 02

  We don't really do much with the betting, but like, I have seen so much betting advertisement everywhere. And then like, I think about Gotcha games, which I have been, you know, a player of in the past. Even buying like Pokemon cards and stuff, right? There's, there's a gambling aspect to it. You don't buy a pack of cards.

• 16:49Speaker 03

  It's basically gambling.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, you, you buy the cards, you don't know what you're getting unless you buy that specific card. You buy a pack of cards, it's like, man, I sure hope this has a full art, I sure hope this has a secret, like, I sure hope this has what I want, but you're not guaranteed. And then like, even through like social media and sports shows, right? Social media, you see advertising for all kinds of stuff now, sports betting is one of them. There's a couple of sports shows I like, and one of the sports shows I like watching is First Things First. I enjoy the banter that those three have on that show. But one of the things they often talk about are like betting lines or the over under or stuff like that. And it's like, man, I feel like whenever I was watching like ESPN and stuff, 10, maybe I was just too young to know what was going up. I don't remember betting lines and stuff being talked about on sports programming.

• 17:29Speaker 03

  Stuart Scott never gave his picks for your top five bets for the weekend. No, that, that didn't happen.

• 17:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, or like, here's a, here's a parlay, you pick these five things and you're more than likely going to get that, like, that's just such common stuff now and it, I don't know, it diminishes my enjoyment. Like, I liked fantasy football when I had no money in the game, but everyone does fantasy football, there's a lot of money involved now and players are getting like threatened and harassed. It's like, Jamar Chase, you only had two catches in the Bengals' first game? How dare you? I lost my house. And it's like-

• 17:58Speaker 03

  He didn't do goddamn thing in that game, but, but he doesn't deserve to be threatened about it or anything. But man, the whole time I was like, and throw it to Chase, and they didn't do it, but-

• 18:09Speaker 02

  I think he's still recovering from the hyperextended knee in the preseason, but in any case, it's just like one of those things where, I don't know, it just, I feel like all this betting and gambling, it used to be able to like go to a casino, I think, to do it. It's just so invasive and pervasive in our lives now. They're just betting and gambling on anything is anywhere and everywhere and slam down our throats.

• 18:29Speaker 04

  Uh, this is gonna sound strange because it's gonna seem like I'm glorifying gambling, but the juxtaposition of when people say went to Vegas and you go there and it was like, oh, the lights, oh, the big bill, whoa, is that a pyramid? Oh, it's a castle! Like, you know, there's- A lot of stuff going on that is part of the gambling and go to someone on their phone, sitting on their couch with 16 more chins than they usually do, looking and scrolling, like picking bets on their phone. There's a lot less glam, you know, at the very least, when gambling was like localized just to Vegas for the most part and other places around the country, it was dressed up. You know, there was this illusion that, you know, it was if you're gonna lose money, at least you were gonna enjoy it in this kind of.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  And you were going out of your way to go find that it wasn't at your fingertips.

• 19:17Speaker 04

  Exactly. Yeah, it's like, I'm going here specifically to do this because this is the only cause I'm doing it. Now everyone does it in their, in their, in their own home. They're ruining their life in the most boring way possible. That's the thing is they're, it's all ruining your life in one way or another, small or large, but it's like, it's so boring now. It's so not interesting.

• 19:35Speaker 03

  I will, I will, I'm not gonna pretend like I don't bet on sports games, but like I literally, I think last year, I think I deposited like 75 bucks or a hundred bucks total. So I could bet on like Bengals games and Columbus Blue Jackets hockey games because just because I watch those games anyway, I do that for fun. For myself, I don't mind the gambling being everywhere because it's exactly what you're saying, Mark. It's not like, it's not like Vegas. I don't like get my phone out and get the exhilaration of like, oh, I'm gonna, I do it because it's like, well, I'm watching the game and I'm like, ah, I think T Higgins is gonna get a touchdown today. Like, ah, and I can put like that five bucks on it, which is inconsequential, right? This is money I could have spent at Dave

• 20:17Speaker 03

  and Buster's or on some other thing I enjoy. It's just for fun. The thing that's such a bummer about it is how predatory the industry is, I think. Because I think, I hope, a lot of people, most people, I hope are more like me, where it's like, yeah, I'll bet five bucks, 10 bucks. Maybe if it's like the Super Bowl, maybe I'll bet 20 bucks on the Super Bowl because like, it's two teams I don't really care about, but then maybe I'm invested in who wins because we're, you know, my family, we always watch the Super Bowl, even if it's two shitty teams you don't give a shit about. And it's like, then it's, then it's kind of fun. But there are, I think, a lot of people, possibly a huge number of people, I don't know the statistics on gambling, where it's not just like a boring thing that they do as a part of a hobby they have or the thing they do with friends and family

• 20:59Speaker 03

  anyway. It is crushing. I have had close, well, not close, but like family and acquaintances who've had trouble with gambling in the past, and it's destructive. It's not, it's not just some innocuous thing, right? It is very dangerous. And so there is a reason it was regulated. And if we're talking about why that's a bummer, it doesn't bother me on a personal level. When I see people talk about, you know, betting on sports shows or whatever, usually I just turn it off because I don't fucking care. But the industry is so, such a negative impact and the numbers on like, people who are really into betting and especially I think people who go on to like the call she poly market stuff

• 21:41Speaker 03

  also, right? It's not because it's good. Treating that like it's an investment is not healthy. It's a real, it's gross. If you do it casually, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Just like there's nothing wrong with going to Vegas. It's fun. If you like it, it's whatever. But like, that's not the, that's not how those companies make money. They don't make money off of betting a hundred bucks a year on several sports games.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  I've not gotten myself into financial issues with it, thankfully, but I have had like days playing a gotcha game, right? Where you're just like already annoyed. You're like, oh, well, at least this new unit I really wanted is coming out and you go to summon, you've got your whatever currency and you pull, you don't get it. Okay, well, I'll do another one. Pull, don't get it. I just really want this unit. So fine, I'll buy the pack. Got three summon, three 10 pulls in it. No, no, no. Okay. Well, there's this worst value pack, two more, two more, just two more. And you go down that line and then like, I don't know, the exacerbation of like, now I'm pissed. I'm gonna get my one copy. I'll show them. And it's like, if I show them, you mean you're gonna keep swiping your credit card, giving them money and you'll eventually get the thing and then feel worse about

• 22:45Speaker 02

  it later. Because like, when you get something and like your first multi, right? It's like the, the dopamine hits there, but there's something about the not getting it and you keep going until you get it. Then you're not even happy when you pull it. You're just like.

• 22:55Speaker 04

  Yes, Simon, Simon rewarding.

• 22:57Speaker 02

  I don't know. There's that like, it's right at your fingertips. They make it easier than ever. You, you know, you double click your phone. It's like face recognition. Yep, there goes 30 bucks. And you can go down, I, you know, tens of dollars, hundreds of dollars, probably thousands, $10,000, very quickly doing this kind of stuff, especially, I've not gotten into like the sports betting and stuff where you can, I imagine, put down large sums. You know, at least the things I'm talking about are smaller amounts of tens of dollars rather than hundreds or thousands, but like it adds up quick. I have had days where I've spent upwards of a thousand bucks, like very easily. Then afterward, I just, I feel like absolute shit. But then that sunken cost fallacy keeps me going. I mean, I love playing Dokon, but for years, that sunk cost fallacy kept me going on that. And it was like, I don't want to miss out on the new meta unit for a game that had no PvP even compared to other ones where

• 23:40Speaker 02

  it's like, you have to have the new thing to keep up. And this is just gotcha games. Again, this is still very different than like buying cards, which is worse than ever thanks to scalpers or like you guys said, sports betting or whatever else. It's just, it's all everywhere at our fingertips, which is convenient for responsible betters. But I consider myself responsible and I've had a few days where I've slipped and just been like, having a bad day, I'm gonna get this thing no matter what. And then I regret it later because it's like, why did I do that? Why did I spend $300 getting this digital unit for a game I quit playing two months later? And I imagine there's a lot of people that go through a lot worse than me.

• 24:13Speaker 04

  Couldn't be me. Learned my lesson long ago.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  Would never happen again.

• 24:17Speaker 04

  How long ago?

• 24:19Speaker 02

  Ah, long, long, long ago.

• 24:21Speaker 04

  Before I got married, you know.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. A year ago. It's been year and year.

• 24:27Speaker 04

  Year plus. Could be one to 10, 20, 50. Who knows, really?

• 24:31Speaker 03

  So like, you're talking about the gambling and gotcha stuff. For me, that's kind of like bad, sad, not in a judgy way, but like, that, that sincerely makes me kind of feel bummed when, if I get drawn into that, you know, or whatever. But I do have things where it's like, good, good, sad for me, happy, sad, I guess. And I'm curious if you guys have any, and it's changed a lot for me since James was born. But the thing, the stupid thing that I get sucked into, what I feel, what I need reassurance is there's so much like dad hope core stuff on social media, where it's just like guys out there posting videos of them, whatever, they're working out, they're cooking food for the

• 25:13Speaker 03

  family, they're doing whatever. And just like giving some so corny, it's like eye watering, like it's cringey. If I wasn't in the right mood, I would look at it and be like, geez, get a life. But there, I get into that mood where I just go and I scroll through like Hope Core Dad TikToks and I'm just like weeping and I feel better because I assume it's not just me, but one of my biggest issues with parenting, aside from hoping that James turns out good, is just generally feeling like I'm not doing the right things, generally feeling like a failure. Like, it's impossible, I think, to be a parent and have any self-awareness and not feel at some points like, ah, I'm such a

• 25:55Speaker 03

  fuck up. I'm doing something wrong. Something went poorly today. It's all my fault. And the, the like cringey Hope Corps stuff absolutely does it for me. It like, doesn't cheer me up, but it like gets me through that, right? It takes me from feeling super bad about myself, hating myself to like, turning that around and still feeling, you know, maybe it was a hard day, but hopeful. And it does, it's like sad, but in a good way. You guys have any stuff that's like that where you have to be in the right mood, but you go to it because it helps you like process and then turn the corner back towards, I'm gonna, you know, I'm not gonna just mope. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do something. I'm gonna make this, you know, turn this into productive feelings or whatever.

• 26:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think I do. This kind of, kind of after Henry had passed, Henry, me and Amy's dog. So when he passed, it was very much like, why am I working so hard on this stupid movie, you know, taking up so much of my time doing all this, this work and not spending time with, you know, my dog. But we did spend a lot of time with him and, and, you know, we were never not, you know, with him for the majority of that. And, and so, but still, there was a feeling of just like, my God. And so I wanted, it was kind of like, when I was doing that, I was just in the final stages of it, as I've said a thousand times before. But it's very much like, I just gotta get it. I just gotta get it out. So then we put up the tickets for sale, but then it did so good. So I don't know what

• 27:22Speaker 04

  the lesson is. So it's like, hey, it worked. But so it's, it's, it's kind of a conflicted feeling because coming out of that is very much just like, man, I either gotta really focus and get things done in a timely manner, or I need to be ambitious and chase things while I still can, but also not because I need to spend time with the ones I love, but I have opportu, you know, it's kind of weird pulling in different directions because there's a whole bunch of different lessons I could take from it. But at the end of the day, I just, you know, I still have pictures of him, like right here. I've got, I've got pictures of him always. So I'm able to look at that and I'm always able, if I ever feel like, oh, I'm not, not on the right path, I'm like, ah, you know what? I'll do it for him, you know, do it for him, kind of thing. It's just whatever it is, I'll use it

• 28:06Speaker 04

  to motivate me in one way or another. And yeah, of course, I get very sad thinking about him. But, you know, we gave him a good life from where he was and now we got Sandy too, to, to think about and Chica's still, you know, doing well. So do it for them.

• 28:17Speaker 03

  I actually, this is really corny, but I recently decided to change my phone lock screen to a picture of James and Mandy, which I only ever hadn't done because like, I always have sort of aesthetic stuff. My phone is like a hobby, right? So it's not a sentimental thing. But I just had a night where I was like, I need to focus. I need to focus on what's important. And I put them on my phone screen. And every time I've looked at it since I did that, I, it seems, feels silly, but I do have that flash of like, I should do it for them. I should, I should, whatever it is, I should do it.

• 28:49Speaker 04

  I always got this. This is a picture of Henry. This is a picture of Henry looking up at Amy. And I know that, know that about this picture. And so it's just like, it's a really pretty picture. And I always just think of it as like, oh, always looking up at Amy.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  Default starry night.

• 29:04Speaker 03

  Nice, nice. Yeah.

• 29:06Speaker 04

  And that's the stuff. Yeah.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  Oh, and my calendar event is my dogs need ear medicine. So, you know, fun, fun combo there.

• 29:12Speaker 04

  How many days you've been putting that off?

• 29:14Speaker 02

  No, they get it daily, starting yesterday. Ear infections are fun. So, yeah, I don't, I don't do that with the pictures and stuff. I do go scroll through mine. One of the things I know, when like, when Avengers first came out, I, I get emotional during movies, like Molly is like statue during movies. Even like emotional scenes. I don't know if she just like tries to contain it or whatever, but like she holds it together. I'll have like tears streaming down my face at like big like hurrah moments and stuff. I feel like there was a lot of powerful moments between Infinity Wars and Endgame. Uh, Infinity War and Endgame. So I went and I watched like reaction content and reaction compilations of people that like saw like, like Black Panther, you know, being like one of the first like black superheroes that was like really powerful and seeing people be like,

• 29:53Speaker 02

  Black Panther, that's so cool. Or there's like the female team up moment in Endgame and like seeing people be like, this is so like, I don't know, just moments where like, there's a big like triumphant like orchestra, like when the portals open and stuff and like all the music swelling. I'll watch like reactions to those moments. Like those are like the, get the tears flowing, but I'm like, oh hell yeah. Like feeling pumped. Like it's a, it's a sad like tear moment, but it's like, actually this is really positive and amazing. Like everyone's tearing up and I'm tearing up like, yes.

• 30:22Speaker 04

  Kind of like beauty of humanity kind of thing. Like, oh man, this is, this is what we can really be.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  I don't know. It makes me feel good to see that kind of stuff. So.

• 30:29Speaker 04

  Meanwhile, other people are like, oh, yay, women.

• 30:36Speaker 04

  You, you joke, but they absolutely are. There are basements full of them.

• 30:40Speaker 02

  But for me, and I think those are really cool moments and I'm not one that watches a lot of reaction content, but seeing the occasional like specific moments to react to. I'm like, those are, those are fun for me to watch. Do you guys have more before I delve into some?

• 30:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, how sad you want to get.

• 30:54Speaker 02

  Go, go as deep as you'd like, man. The floor is open.

• 30:57Speaker 04

  There's a story that was on the Washington Post, where it's a can of worms. But uh, the, the thing is ICE is quietly firing new hires. For one recruit, it was devastating because he got this job from being an unhireable person and then ended up being fired. And then as a result, he took his own life. So it's, it's one of those things where it's like, well, that's sad, but also, you know,

• 31:21Speaker 02

  there's a lot of layers and it's a convoluted thing. Yeah.

• 31:25Speaker 04

  You know, just chucking that out there in the complexity pool.

• 31:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's certainly a complex type of downer. I have to give you that.

• 31:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, you never want to see someone take their own life. Obviously we can disagree with choices people make and politics is a thing we always avoid on this show just because it's not fun or funny and just causes more divisiveness typically. Yeah. ICE is a controversial thing, especially with how it's been executed in the last few years.

• 31:49Speaker 03

  The thing about that too is, and this is a broader statement on society, that sort of thing, it's honestly, I feel a little bit like I've been numbed to crazy headlines like that. Like

• 32:01Speaker 02

  That's also true.

• 32:02Speaker 03

  That as a story, if that happened in my life, that would be an unthinkable thing. Like depending on who that is, how close that's, that is a terrible sequence of events. It would be devastating. But seeing that in the news is like, even as intense as that story is, it barely holds up to the constant deluge of terrible things to concerning things, shit that's happening that's unbelievable that it's happening and people are whatever. But the, I think the thing about that specific story too is what I just know is out there. Cause I haven't, I haven't read that or, or looked at it specifically. If there's a comment section, that is disheartening, I'm sure.

• 32:43Speaker 03

  And if there are people talking about that on social media, it is disheartening, I'm sure. Because the complete lack of humanity, and this is again, kind of apolitical because it's not one side that's no, that has no humanity and the other side, just generally the lack of humanity on the internet in the discourse. I haven't looked at this one, but I could guess what it's like. And it's probably very disheartening in general and probably nothing redeeming to find in those comments or those social media arguments, right? That's, that's a part of that. Cause be, being numb to the news absolutely happens. I think anyone who reads a lot, reads the news or follows the news

• 33:25Speaker 03

  just sort of happens because the world is fucking crazy. But that, that is to me, maybe more disheartening even than the headline. Because it's just, this is just all the same. You know what that comment section looks like. You could guess exactly what that looks like.

• 33:39Speaker 04

  For sure. And, and the whole, the whole thing is fine. I don't know who this guy was. I don't know what his history was. But it's like the, the biggest problem of all this is like the military-esque drive for recruitment, offering, I don't know how many thousands they were offering people to.

• 33:52Speaker 03

  It's like huge bonuses and stuff, right?

• 33:54Speaker 04

  Huge bonuses to people. And of course people are desperate because times are not good for a lot of people out there. I don't know who, uh, who, who might disagree with that, but you know, inflation is doing funny things and interest rates are on the rise and tariffs. What? No, those are, those are helping, right?

• 34:12Speaker 03

  Those are making a lot of money. We're going to get checks or something.

• 34:15Speaker 04

  Sam, please put in loud winking noises for listeners.

• 34:20Speaker 02

  Is there a such thing as a winking noise?

• 34:23Speaker 03

  It's just Spark going blonk, blonk, blink, blonk, blonk.

• 34:27Speaker 04

  When you have these desperate people that are, you know, you know, they, they see a however many thousands of dollars bonus check that they could get for this. You know, even if it's a reprehensible thing to, to join up for, or the reasons thereof, or, you know, motivated purely by this like building up this militarist force to do horrible things. Some people will take that out of desperation. And then to be fired of it, if the people are like, this is the last chance. And also all of my family and friends hate me for joining this. And then suddenly they're fired and they don't have the money or the, you know, you know, or their friends and family, you know, because they, they all look down upon it.

• 35:02Speaker 02

  It could happen. I don't know if that's what happened here, but it's like, it could happen. Tangentially, like talking about the desensitization of all this stuff, like headlines in general, man, that, that's one of the things I have on here is like news stories always focusing on violence, war, controversy, death, just horrible things. So my mom's sister was killed in a car accident in like the seventies. I never got to meet her, my aunt. But it's a, it's a, it was a thing that happened that obviously was devastating for my mom. It was devastating for her parents and like their extended families and stuff. Cause they lost, you know, I think she was in like her early to mid twenties when she passed away in a car accident. And then like you see something on the news and it says like car crash, one fatality. And like they'll give like a brief like so and so died in a car. Like every day we have those things on the news, right? Like accident, these people died.

• 35:44Speaker 02

  You look at the, the really big events in like the world this year, like we were talking a little bit about it earlier, Nepal, right? The horrible floods in Nepal, Tibet and all that stuff that claimed, I don't even know how many hundreds or thousands of lives at this point. I have no idea what the number's gotten to. But we hear those and we're like, oh, that's so terrible. That's awful. And we'll see like, you know, donation link pop up or something. Hopefully people are donating to help support these causes. But like, what's lost in all that is individuality. There's like each of these people lost. It affected them. They're gone. Parents, grandparents, children, spouses, cousins, like, you know, there, there's this radius of people affected by this around them. And that hundreds of times over, thousands of times over is happening. And we hear the event and we're so desensitized to it that it's like, tragic, tragic. What happened in sports today?

• 36:28Speaker 02

  And it's just like, you kind of, you see that, you're sad for a moment, you move on. Some people will give it more attention. It'll, it was in the news for week, couple of weeks, whatever it was. Then it's kind of like, oh yeah, I forgot about that big horrible event. And there's just so much dwelling on these things that we are super desensitized to. We get war casualties. It's like, oh, that's tragic. That's really sad. All right. So what's next? And I don't know. There's just something about that mindset that seems terrible to me. Where we get used to hearing accidents, casualties, victims. We, we get those things. It's like, what can you do? Sad. I guess we move on to the next topic. What's next on the news?

• 37:01Speaker 04

  It's the unfortunate thing of normalization. Humans can become used to anything, which is a very scary thing. Because anything can become normalized. Good things can become normalized and bad things can become normalized. With the Nepal flood, it's like not saying like this was caused by someone, but there was a little bit of lack of information coming through about warning systems. Monitoring, you know, these things. Cause I, I don't, I didn't read everything about it. I don't know the full scope of the situation, but I believe that there was at least, there should have been at least some kind of early monitoring of this that could have led to more, you know, evacuations, more preparedness. I don't know. But the death toll as of an article this morning, I, I had no idea it was this many, 1,395.

• 37:46Speaker 04

  And it's still rising because there's still 5,130 people still missing. So it's like, it's, every single one of those could be, could be dead. Probably not. They have rescued a few people, but it's nowhere near the proportion of the amount of people that have, uh, died. And it's just like, it's crazy to think about it. Wiped out like just in. Go on. There's the levity. There's the always count on Bob with the levity.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  That was perfectly timed on purpose.

• 38:14Speaker 04

  Yes, yes, that's it. That's what these are for. Uh, but yeah, it's just like seeing the before and after pictures of some of those cities that they had like, like then towns that are very large. Like I, I mean, I grew up in Milford. We were in Milford. It's not that big of a, big of a city, you know, and town just like getting wiped, half of it wiped off the map is crazy to think about.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, I saw, I wasn't going out of my way looking for it, but one of the videos crossed my feed of like, I don't know if it was like a checkpoint or what, what it was, but it was a structure with a bunch of people that were really small looking on the video like running away. And then you just see, I don't know how to describe the amount of like water and debris, what it looked like compared to the P. It's just such an enormously large amount of stuff coming through that within what a couple, a second, half a second, two seconds, whatever the timeframe is, just so quickly envelops that whole area. And like you said, we've become desensitized to stuff like that, but to actually think about, actually think about it is, it's crushing. It's devastating to think about.

• 39:07Speaker 04

  Cause it's like, it's more than just like, imagine everyone you knew is gone. It's somehow more than that, you know? Imagine every single friend, person you've become acquainted with, good friends, even your coworkers was just gone. That's like the quantity and it's, it boggles the mind, you know, it's something we can't really, really relate to, but also in human history, it's, that's a very common thing. They used to be much more common. But at the same time, you know, wars are still happening. Genocide's still happening. It's, it's all boggles the mind.

• 39:37Speaker 02

  One of the things that annoys and pisses me off the most in the political spectrum, there's so much misdirect. We focus on such tiny stupid issues when there's so many big concerning global human facing things that we could be focusing on. And instead we find minute things that like, I don't like that. Well, why? That's a stupid thing to not like. Let's all fight each other while meanwhile overhead, all this other bullshit's happening that we're ignoring because we're so busy focused in the trenches on the world's dumbest, least important things. Instead of focusing on grouping together and like, what can we do to help Nepal to bet like, can we? Is there something we, we don't focus on the positive aspects of what we can do to make the world a better place or what we can stop doing to keep it from getting worse.

• 40:18Speaker 02

  Instead, there's a lot of just focus on vitriol hatred and everyone pitting each other against each other so that we're all so busy holding our pitchforks that people making decisions are doing basically whatever the fuck they want. And like, oh, you guys are done fighting about that? Here, the last chicken nugget. Who wants it? Fight to the death over this.

• 40:34Speaker 04

  I have a strong belief actually that the majority of people, uh, arguing online are arguing with robots. I think more than ever now. It's, there are just bots that are specifically made to go into various comment sections that are tied into keywords and produce the opposite opinion. I don't even think that they're like, there's a core message they're trying to do. They just exist to be like antagonistic. Yeah. And I think, I think that that is, it may not be all of it. I believe there are dumb and bad people out there, of course, that think dumb and stupid things. More and more as L L M's get better and as these bots just they, they take over the internet. I think a lot of these conversations come from just like nonsense, like you're arguing with a nobody.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  Well, and Twitter specifically monetizing tweets to where if you get a viral tweet, you get more money if you're partnered or subscribed or whatever. Also is added to the, let's rage bait, whether it's bots or people. The whole point is post something that's going to get a lot of controversy, a lot of clicks and a lot of typing things about because if 5,000 people have something to say about my opinion, that's a lot, that's a lot more money for me than if only three people responded.

• 41:43Speaker 04

  Yep, it's true.

• 41:44Speaker 02

  Sorry, I've, I've got more things. If you, unless you guys have something else you wanna, you got one time for one or two more probably, quick things.

• 41:51Speaker 03

  I'm just spinning, I guess I'm doing it wrong. I was spinning, trying to think of stuff that's like the things I think of when I'm sad, but it's all stuff that turns it around for me.

• 42:00Speaker 02

  Even if you do that, I, I feel like that's still, you were welcome to bring those things up. I would, I would not mind us spinning this at the end. You're welcome to spin it.

• 42:07Speaker 03

  I have a really small one that I just like, um, that pops up for me a lot personally. My, uh, mom's mom, so my maternal grandmother. I feel like I get a lot of my, my like temperament and personality kind of from her. And I don't know if that's true or if it's just because I see it after the fact, but like, uh, she is, she died years ago now. I mean, it would have been coming up on a decade ago. It's been a while. Uh, actually almost exactly a decade, just over. But so, and she had Alzheimer's, which is like one of my biggest personal fears is

• 42:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, same.

• 42:46Speaker 03

  Having seen that so up close and being afraid of getting that, but, um, she was, I think, I think it's uncommon. She was always happy. She was always like the happiest, even when she was, the Alzheimer's was very advanced and she, she was living in assisted care. She was always just like even keel happy. Like we would come and visit and you know, the whole family would show up and visit her in her room and she would just be like, she wouldn't say this, but she clearly, she would think like, okay, I don't understand what's happening. Everyone is here. We're all hanging out. Must be a holiday. And her go-to is we would all walk in and be like, hey, I grab what?

• 43:25Speaker 03

  And she would just go, happy Easter, probably like, hey, what's up everybody? Happy Easter. Welcome. I'm hosting you for Easter now. Uh, but like, that's uncommon because a lot of people when they're disoriented, they get angry, scared, pretty normal reactions. Uh, but I think I get bummed out a lot when like Alzheimer's brought up or if I'm thinking about her, I miss her. Um, but there's one thing, it's literally one word that she said that always like brings me back when I started thinking about her. Is we're playing scatagories, which if you don't know is a game where you pass a little thing around and it has a word, or I don't know if it's called scatagories. Catchphrase, pass phrase, has a word on it and you're trying to get your team to guess the word, right? And then you push the button and hand it to the next player.

• 44:07Speaker 03

  And, um, she was not good at that game. We were all playing it around the table at Christmas. And she got the thing handed to her and she kept, she liked to say the word that was on the screen. So she would just get it and be like butterflies, ah, uh, Christmas tree. And one time she was getting really pissed off because she couldn't do it right. And she did, she like said the word three times in a row and then she just went, oh shit. And handed it off and no one in that entire house had ever heard her like swear really, right? We were all kids. And I, that's like a cornerstone of who I try to be as a person. Cause she wasn't angry. It was really funny. It is like, she just was so in the moment that she swore and she was really embarrassed about it, but, uh, it's just a thing when I get sad

• 44:52Speaker 03

  about like family members having health issues or my own health issues I've been dealing with, especially recently. It's just a thing that always comes back where I'm like, no matter what happens, like be more like grandma. And I think about her just yelling, oh shit, in the middle of the Christmas party. And it's such a random memory because it didn't really accurately capture what I'm feeling. Or like her as a person in a big way. Um, but it's just like a funny little thing that I has been in my head since it happened, probably 16 years ago or whatever. And I guess I was wondering if you guys have anything like that where it's like, does, it could do something that's sad too. Cause I certainly have those, but that's like a defining thing for me that always re-centers me and reminds me like whatever's

• 45:35Speaker 05

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• 46:05Speaker 03

  Happening. You can choose how you react to it still, right? You can choose how you choose to move forward.

• 46:10Speaker 02

  I guess I didn't get like a lesson from this, but a funny one I think back to a lot, even though we lost Zombie Mole, I think five years ago now. He and I were becoming really close friends. Uh, we obviously met through doing drunk Minecraft with the three of us. And then Molly and I kept playing on the, the Vox popular Minecraft server and got to know him and Latin, whenever they were together there for a while and stuff. And then finally he was coming out of his shell and he came to Cincinnati couple of times and we went to LA and hung out and we played Among Us, uh, whenever Among Us was booming, I think in what 2020? I don't know, just his brain worked differently than ours. And it was always, it led to some funny encounters, but we did a match where I don't remember if somebody was getting killed a lot or thought they were being targeted, but like, okay.

• 46:48Speaker 02

  We're going to make all of our names, just some simple colors. And that way no one knows who they're killing or who's the killer, whatever else. We're just gonna be like, you know, whatever. So everyone just pick a color. And so we had like red, blue, black, green, white, fucking zombie picked chartreuse. And right away we all knew it was him. And I don't know how, but we're all like, Zombie, did you pick chartreuse as your colors? Like, yeah, it's a good green. We're like

• 47:15Speaker 02

  Dude, the closest we have to chartreuse is yellow because it's the only other color here with two symbols to it or syllables to it.

• 47:22Speaker 04

  Chartreuse is the funny color that can both be described as green or yellow. It is basically exactly in between the two.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  So he picked that and I don't know, it just, it's one of those moments where it makes me sad to remember that moment because it's like he's gone, but it makes me laugh and happy because it was just such a funny moment where literally everyone was simple, one syllable color. And then a color like half the people in the call had never even heard of that. I don't even know what chartreuse is. I thought that was like a dessert. So again, no, no big lesson learned or anything, but just one of those moments. It's like a sad, happy, like it makes you laugh and you're kind of sad because you miss the person. But then you're kind of like, you think of other silly things that happened with them. And it's like, okay, well, I, I feel like I'm in better spirits, but also like there's still that hollow part of me that feels hollow thinking about it, which I think similar to this experience you're talking about, just, I didn't get that lesson.

• 48:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, it doesn't have to have some, I think this only has gravity to me because, I mean, I think very much because she had Alzheimer's and that's a, that was a very formative like experience for me, knowing her, seeing how it affected her. But yeah, doesn't have to be some huge thing. That's pretty funny. I, I didn't know zombie nearly as well as you guys did, but that does fit pretty good.

• 48:28Speaker 02

  My grandma that my mom's mom lived with us for a couple of years after my grandpa passed away and toward the end, she had like an oxygen tank. So she had like the little tubes and stuff in her nose and stuff. She was starting to slip. She, she didn't really know where she was. It wasn't Alzheimer's, but it was like that last stages of life where your mind's going all over the place. And there were moments of clarity where she knew who we all were. And there were moments where she thought it was one of her cousins or, you know, whatever from her childhood. And there was a night that, um, she was in her room and she was making all kinds of noise. We all went to go check on her and she was like standing on her bed and holding up her, she took it, taken her oxygen out, was holding it up in the air and telling us we had to help collect the water dust. He's like, the water dust, it's escaping, get the water dust. And we're like, Graham, what are you talking about? Okay. All right. Well, she

• 49:11Speaker 02

  got my, we're like, she's get the water dust. And we're like, okay. So we started doing something and you know, we were laughing about it and we're like, I don't know what the hell was happening. That was really silly. My mom was a little bit more reserved about it all, which was, why aren't you laughing? And she's like, I think this is referencing a moment in her childhood where someone like drowned in a river and she was remembering that. But our experience not knowing that was like grandma's completely lost it. Ha, ha. This is so silly. Funny. We're collecting the water dust. She's hold their oxygen in the air and dancing on the bed. And I guess it was reliving a traumatic moment that my, that Lisa's my mom's interpretation was, but that was another one of those like, haha, but uh, maybe I shouldn't have been laughing and enjoying it quite so much. Now that I know what maybe it was being represented.

• 49:49Speaker 04

  A laugh's a laugh, you know, you just gotta take them when they come, you know? Funeral, you know, baby shower, other horrible event.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 49:58Speaker 04

  Uh, what's it trying to say? Baby shower is a horrible event. I was like, no, I was trying to go, no, I was trying to go horrible event. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not bad. Good one. Horrible event. I was trying to make a pattern. I wasn't saying, no, no, come on guys, please.

• 50:10Speaker 03

  We're on patterns with James Alon. I see it. Truck, car, truck, car. Truck. I see it.

• 50:15Speaker 02

  That might be the, maybe I should rename the title funeral, baby shower, other horrible events. Good title for it.

• 50:24Speaker 02

  Well, thank you all for embarking. I know that this wasn't the most uplifting, uplifting moments, but I just got sad on the mind, you know, I've got, got some stress in life and it's bringing out the, the sad. So we went through it. So let me go through points. Mark, you have points for gave us no details. I don't remember about what, but gave us no details. The scary tapes ad, one year married. Congrats on that. Cool drink. Cause I got distracted by your drink cup. Uh, dressing up for Vegas, no gambling since you've been married. Uh, you brought up the work, life balance. You got a point from Bob, complex layers, whatever that means. Bots? Question mark. And then funeral, baby showers and other horrible events.

• 51:02Speaker 04

  All right. I'll take it.

• 51:03Speaker 02

  Bring them out. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 11 points.

• 51:08Speaker 02

  Bob, you got points for stories, scary AI. Uh, you've been married for forever. Uh, you can do stuff now. Fancy ass French cleats. Uh, you got the bummed out segue point, predatory gambling versus responsible betting points, corny dad TikToks. You are consistently are uplifting sad, desensitizing news. You dropped a ball or dropped something at one point that shocked Mark and I so much. We just had to look up to see.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  Huge brass thing. That's a really, really heavy and loud when you drop it accidentally.

• 51:39Speaker 02

  It's also very loud when it lands under your microphone. Uh, you got a point for sad becoming positivity. And then grandma's first swear word. You have 13 points.

• 51:49Speaker 03

  What the hell? Told you I never stood a chance.

• 51:51Speaker 02

  I think literally the segue point and dropping the ball is what broke the tie. But we'll find out. Uh, we gotta do wheel spins.

• 51:58Speaker 03

  How many spins will there be?

• 52:01Speaker 04

  I want to say it'll be three.

• 52:04Speaker 03

  Damn. It'll be two. Are you adding something to the wheel?

• 52:09Speaker 02

  We really gotta add in betting points during this, the number of spins spin.

• 52:14Speaker 04

  I really want to get the wagers.

• 52:16Speaker 02

  Get some wagers. Had the happiest week. Unless someone had a really awful week and it's just being rubbed in, but we'll take it as a positive side.

• 52:23Speaker 03

  Had the least terrifying week. We got two spins coming. Two spin, two spins. There's the first one.

• 52:34Speaker 03

  It deserves most sympathy. Kind of thematic with the episode, but.

• 52:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, it kinda is. Um.

• 52:40Speaker 03

  I don't really feel like I deserve any particular sympathy. My foot's healed. I feel like that's good.

• 52:47Speaker 04

  I'm lower on points. That really deserves some sympathy, guys. If you want to give me a chance at all, you would have to give it this to me. Come on, guys. Otherwise I don't, if I lose this right off, we don't even get to do the second because it wouldn't matter really, would it?

• 53:02Speaker 03

  It could be golf rules.

• 53:03Speaker 04

  It could be. What are the odds? It's not gonna happen again.

• 53:07Speaker 03

  Oh, not good. Yeah, it wouldn't be good.

• 53:09Speaker 02

  I'm just gonna say respin. I don't think either one of you deserve sympathy.

• 53:11Speaker 04

  No, I'm so pathetic right now.

• 53:13Speaker 03

  Hey, I thought you made a pretty strong case, Mark. I thought that was very pathetic. Spin number one, back in the spin.

• 53:23Speaker 03

  Half point for Bob. I feel like I should get this one.

• 53:27Speaker 04

  I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I can't really argue that one. That one's pretty just straightforward.

• 53:33Speaker 03

  Now we, there's, there's not even a point. What, what is this? What is this world? It could be golf rules.

• 53:38Speaker 02

  Oh no, there's no way. It won't happen. Oh God, I'm so pathetic.

• 53:43Speaker 03

  Spin number two. We wouldn't do golf rules. Honest.

• 53:52Speaker 03

  Fun fact this episode.

• 53:54Speaker 04

  Oh, so many fun facts.

• 53:57Speaker 02

  I think that's a respin.

• 53:58Speaker 03

  Don't worry, Mark. You're just increasing your chances of golf rules coming up. Half way for Wade.

• 54:08Speaker 02

  I'm on the board.

• 54:10Speaker 03

  Oh, now we would really get the sympathy point. Look at this guy.

• 54:17Speaker 02

  You know what? I feel so bad. I'm going to let you go first with the loser speech.

• 54:21Speaker 04

  Oh man, guys, this is a sad day for me especially. The saddest, actually the only way to make this the saddest possible episode was for me to lose. So honestly, you know, it's as fitting as ever it could be. All of you are rooting for me. Everyone was pulling for me. Everyone was pulling everything for me. And yet I couldn't pull it out. I lost because I just couldn't pull it out.

• 54:45Speaker 03

  I've been there.

• 54:46Speaker 02

  Very sadly and pathetically spoken. Well done. Uh, Bob, winner's speech.

• 54:52Speaker 03

  It's that thing again. It's still loud.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  Guys, I can't give many more points. I want to, I want to spew them out right now, but I just can't spew all over your points.

• 54:59Speaker 03

  I win so much these days that honestly, I'm getting kind of numb to it. I better, I better start hunting for something that really scratches that itch. Uh, better than just winning another episode does, you know, I'm piling them up. Clearly the leader in total wins and I don't see that changing anytime soon. So maybe I'll, maybe I'll start trying to lose and that way, you know, someone else will stand a chance.

• 55:23Speaker 02

  Wow. Uh, I guess Mark and I would appreciate that because we could use some more wins, right?

• 55:28Speaker 04

  Me especially.

• 55:29Speaker 02

  I don't know if the wins point totals says that, but you know, on this, in this particular time when I'm hosting, yes. Well, thank you guys. Uh, appreciate it. Good episode. Uh, for everybody out there watching, sorry if we made you sad, but you know, I think Bob winning being as the, you know, the only uplifting sad stuff, whereas I think Mark and I were just kind of down in the, we're real down in the dumps. Uh, Bob picked us up. He got the win. So stay tuned for the next one with Bob will host. If you haven't already, go follow these guys, Bob at my scrum, Mark at Mark, me at minion77, our lord minion777, whatever. Uh, we have merch at distractible.shop. I'm at least 99.7% sure that's correct. And merch comes and goes. So make sure you check it out frequently because there's new stuff, there's old stuff, there's no stuff. Who knows? I miss you every time you look. And I guess we'll see in the next one where Bob will host and we'll see what we get into.

• 56:14Speaker 02

  He won't win that one probably unless.

• 56:16Speaker 03

  Oh, you know what the next one's gonna be?

• 56:18Speaker 04

  It's gonna be scary tapes.

• 56:20Speaker 02

  Get your big person pants buckled for some scary tapes. That's what they say in the nowhere ever. Until then, okay.

• 56:28Speaker 00

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