Burnout

The guys have a heart to heart, bald to Bob, and Go to Pro conversation about their personal struggles with feeling burnout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

• 0:00Speaker 00

  Good evening, gentle listeners or watchers, and welcome to Distractible. This episode, Malevolent Mark finally gets his just rewards, has a blue bucket for blood, and has supply issues. Brainy Bob, crainly cooks, lands cool tuition, and experiences excruciatingly harrowing, explosive eruptions. White whiskered Wade gets befuddled like Drake, demands lube, and opens up about his truly terrible trials. From cold opens to heartfelt hard truths. Yes, it's time for Burnout.

• 0:40Speaker 00

  Now, sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  Alright, ready?

• 0:52Speaker 02

  Fart noise.

• 0:53Speaker 01

  That was my mouth sound.

• 0:55Speaker 02

  I was making a fart noise as a sound of acquiescence. It's how I communicate with James, sorry, I'm ready.

• 1:01Speaker 03

  That's how I show your dominance.

• 1:03Speaker 02

  Insert your dominance.

• 1:05Speaker 01

  Welcome to Distractible.

• 1:07Speaker 03

  Oh no, no, no, no, no.

• 1:08Speaker 01

  This is the show where we have a very concise, clean intro every time, and cold opens are a thing that are relegated to Voldemort, who is way better at them than us as we are.

• 1:23Speaker 03

  Did you emphasize Bald more than usual in that name this time?

• 1:25Speaker 01

  Are you just sensitive to it?

• 1:27Speaker 03

  I really thought you were calling me a name.

• 1:29Speaker 01

  You're just sensitive to it, man.

• 1:32Speaker 02

  I feel like you were calling me his name, and I don't like that. Call me by my name, Bald.

• 1:37Speaker 01

  Alright, I'm gonna give you a bald point.

• 1:39Speaker 03

  I'm typically sensitive about that today, apparently.

• 1:41Speaker 01

  It's alright, man, it's alright, man, that's what this episode's gonna be all about. Spoiler warning.

• 1:46Speaker 02

  What spoiler? I was trying to think of what the spoiler was, but then I realized it was a bit.

• 1:50Speaker 01

  Why don't we say to us what the episode's gonna be before, you know? Cause the audience knows. Well, they don't know.

• 1:57Speaker 02

  Maybe they don't, maybe the title's confusing.

• 2:00Speaker 01

  No, Voldemort gives a complete description of what's gonna happen in really elocan ways, yeah.

• 2:04Speaker 02

  But he says it in British words, which is confusing.

• 2:07Speaker 01

  You're right, you're right. What a weirdo, am I right, guys?

• 2:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like a different language, so who knows?

• 2:15Speaker 01

  Alright, I'm giving you a Voldemort point.

• 2:16Speaker 02

  Bald, make sure you emphasize the bald part, Voldemort.

• 2:20Speaker 03

  I feel dirty.

• 2:21Speaker 02

  Spent his name the whole time, dude.

• 2:22Speaker 03

  You must always feel dirty.

• 2:24Speaker 01

  What the hell?

• 2:25Speaker 03

  What the hell? Today's Voldemort.

• 2:27Speaker 02

  Please don't quit.

• 2:28Speaker 03

  Please, yeah, please, please.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  Voldemort. Don't listen to Wade, he doesn't speak for us.

• 2:33Speaker 03

  Look, we both have bald going on.

• 2:34Speaker 02

  Does that mean you feel dirty all the time? What are you getting at?

• 2:37Speaker 03

  Kinda, yeah, sometimes like you have no hair to absorb the grease, it just kinda sits there and then like you go to fry dinner on your head. It's like, all right, well, at least the grease is already in place, you know? You have to get like your little coffee can to like scrape it in, cause you don't want it to get in the sink or whatever.

• 2:50Speaker 01

  I don't wanna yes and you. I do not want to yes and you.

• 2:53Speaker 02

  No, you have to yes and, that's the rules of the show.

• 2:56Speaker 03

  Abstaining from this yes and.

• 2:58Speaker 02

  He's just highlighting one of the advantages that bald people have. When I cook dinner on my head, there's so many hairs and it's gross. Imagine scrambled eggs with this. And how?

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Welcome to Distractible. We are the triumvirate of men. A very unique perspective in the world of podcasting. Three dudes on a podcast.

• 3:20Speaker 02

  That's what my mom keeps telling me.

• 3:22Speaker 01

  But, did you know also, we like to play games? That's a unique thing about us.

• 3:27Speaker 03

  Throw the jigsaw.

• 3:29Speaker 01

  Actually, there was never really any ga- alright, I don't wanna get into this. There's never really any, okay, there was never any game. He was like, you wanna play a game? Yeah, well, too bad. You have a key in your liver. Get it?

• 3:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, that one's called Operation.

• 3:43Speaker 03

  Do this or die.

• 3:44Speaker 02

  If you don't hit the right spot, you go, and then you die.

• 3:48Speaker 01

  This one's called, there's a shotgun pointed at your face.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  That one's actually called Duck, ironically.

• 3:55Speaker 03

  I think it's called Peekaboo.

• 3:59Speaker 01

  There was the pit of needles.

• 4:00Speaker 02

  It's a very modern take on the children's game Peekaboo.

• 4:08Speaker 03

  Shotgun Peekaboo.

• 4:09Speaker 02

  Dude, that sounds like a crazy ass indie film or something. 824 Presents Shotgun Peekaboo.

• 4:15Speaker 01

  Today's episode kinda rolls small talk all into one. We're gonna be doing a ye olde fireside chat. We're gonna be talking, yapping up a storm. Life has been getting us, Wade mentioned something about burnout before this. I just finally am in the final, final stretch.

• 4:34Speaker 02

  Final stretch?

• 4:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:38Speaker 03

  It's been three years, the final stretch.

• 4:41Speaker 01

  And I, it's basically done now. It came out on YouTube digitally. I've got a few things left of like getting last translations for the other countries. There's still the Blu-ray and the DVD. And, but once that's done, it'll be like, well, that's, that's Iron Lung. It's not like I'm gonna make a theme park deal out of it and have Iron Lung, the ride, you know, or anything like that. It's, I kind of forget about it at this point, you know?

• 5:03Speaker 02

  Dude, that'd be such an easy ride to make, though. You just, y'all pile in and it's like a motion thing, right? But there, there's no visuals. It's just like,

• 5:16Speaker 02

  and you're like, oh, what's that? We'll never know.

• 5:19Speaker 01

  And then a tooth comes through the top and you get your fire extinguishers and you, oh, spoiler.

• 5:26Speaker 03

  I zoned out for like one second at the beginning and then I have no idea what the hell's happening.

• 5:32Speaker 01

  What do you mean?

• 5:33Speaker 02

  How do you zone out before a conversation happens?

• 5:36Speaker 03

  What? Well, cause Mark mentioned it coming out in more countries and I was like, huh, what's a funny joke? It's out in USA's dad. It's out in USA. It's out to be soon to be USA. It's down, it's out, it's out right now in Down Under USA and Hobbit Town USA. Is that funny? And then I tuned back in and you're like,

• 5:56Speaker 03

  it's like a tooth coming in the top and I was like,

• 5:59Speaker 01

  Alright, I'll give you an, uh, uh, hey, what was it? Like, uh, Hobbit USA? I think that one made me laugh.

• 6:06Speaker 03

  It's all USA. It's so funny. It's why I didn't want to make the joke, but then I had to explain it cause my brain does that.

• 6:12Speaker 01

  Uh, but you know, I think it's time for us to all just kind of talk, talk about the world, maybe a little bit, uh, talk about, you know, everything going on in life, where it is. But before we do that.

• 6:27Speaker 02

  Oh, they sent you one?

• 6:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, you finally got sent one.

• 6:29Speaker 02

  You had a meeting and they were like, yeah, we love you, Mark. Here's, here's the thing you wanted.

• 6:33Speaker 01

  No, well, you know, I, I hope, I hope now, cause I'm showing it. I'm showing my brand loyalty. Uh, I have my GoPro for everyone who's listening at home. You can hear the, hear the quality of the camera.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  Slam it on the desk. Let them hear it.

• 6:52Speaker 03

  Don't you have a spinning, uh, stage for it?

• 6:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I do. Yeah. On this, on this, uh, I showed the consist. So this is the, the, the editing wheel someone gave to me, uh, or, uh, or I think I bought it actually. And I have never used it for editing, but I am using it as a rotary display for my GoPro.

• 7:13Speaker 02

  Dude, look how, well, look at your lighting though. Elite level lighting. Look at those.

• 7:16Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that's pretty good.

• 7:17Speaker 02

  It's flashing, it's catching.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  Wow. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 7:20Speaker 02

  No. Flies off. You hear the cartoony glass breaking sound as it leaves frame.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  It wouldn't do that. It's tough. It's meant to be thrown around. Well, I mean, I know they're not, they're not calling it an action cam, but it's like.

• 7:34Speaker 02

  It's GoPro. I would certainly believe it's still tough.

• 7:37Speaker 03

  What did it take for them to finally send you one?

• 7:39Speaker 01

  Uh, me paying money and then the release date happening.

• 7:44Speaker 03

  So a business transaction is what took place.

• 7:47Speaker 02

  So they, they sent you one because they legally had to because of money. I see, I see.

• 7:55Speaker 03

  Even then, they were like, uh, do we have a worse one they could get? Like the prototype?

• 8:01Speaker 02

  Can we ship this guy like an open box or do we have any returns yet or?

• 8:06Speaker 01

  Nah, we just released it. No returns. Ah, shit. All right. Well, open one up banging around a little bit and put it back in the box.

• 8:13Speaker 02

  Lick one and then put it in the packaging and see if he notices.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  Oh, good. Anyway, I got it. Uh, not many people know or remember I used GoPros a lot on the van vlogs.

• 8:25Speaker 02

  Dude, I love the van, the barrel.

• 8:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I, I use it. So I'm very familiar with using GoPros and it was funny, uh, because I just Googled barrel as if that was gonna get me anywhere. What the fuck's wrong with me?

• 8:37Speaker 02

  Top hits, Cracker Barrel, barrels in general, Mark's van.

• 8:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. Uh, it's entirely filmed with like a GoPro Hero 8 or whatever the one from that year would have been. Uh, and I am, I'm rooting. Damn, I look different. Fuck, I've gotten old.

• 8:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, man, your genes are terrible.

• 8:55Speaker 01

  Anyway, I I really like the uh the I've always liked the convenience of it and it's really nice and I'm not sponsored, obviously, because I'm trying so desperately to be. But this this this new one is fucking awesome. It is so cool.

• 9:12Speaker 02

  This is the one that has the static lens, right? The one with the interchangeable lenses, the fancier one is not.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, it's not out yet. I wish they would just open up the pre-orders because of.

• 9:22Speaker 03

  Well, it's out for everyone else.

• 9:26Speaker 02

  Not supposed to tell them, man.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  There's a giant conspiracy that it's just not me.

• 9:30Speaker 02

  You're gonna get kicked out of the grow the GoPro club.

• 9:33Speaker 01

  Uh, but it's it's just, I I've I've always liked it because versus big cinema cameras and even big DSLRs, there's something so I said, but it's being like, doo, boop, flop. I'm filming something and it being usable is is anyway, I filmed Chica's tail in slow motion because I realized like when I got it, I was like, oh, I gotta film some cool shit in slow motion. What what's cool in my life?

• 9:58Speaker 01

  My dog's ass? Yeah, well, hey, look, it's Chica's tail. It was really pretty in slow motion, but come on, man. It was very pretty and people liked it, but, you know, I I realize I actually don't have that much uh cool things to film in slow mo, but I'll find them. I filmed the faucet because I didn't know what else to film and it was like, wow, nine hundred and sixty frames.

• 10:20Speaker 02

  Did you get? Did you get the shot of like the like the drops coming across frame and everything or?

• 10:26Speaker 01

  Man, I would. It's this one doesn't do macro yet, even though although I did an experiment where I held one of my other lenses, like my Minolta's in front of it like this and I got I got actually a pretty cool shot out of it. Um, so there's I'm going to fake it until it happens. I don't care if I have to have 3D print like an amount to get other optical things on there. I'll figure out a way. I can do it. I can do it. I was I was almost an engineer. Yeah, cuz it I know it's going to have like adapt. Anyway, I don't need to talk about, but I'm very excited about this. I truly anyway, it's gonna have like the hero 13 had where it's like interchangeable lenses. You can have the macro and the things like that because this comes off for in case it breaks. That's why it won't break because it'll just break this lens cover and then you can just boop.

• 11:11Speaker 01

  It's a little cheaper placement. You put it right back on. But they'll have adaptable lenses and then I can probably get a macro thing in here, but I still want the actual micro four thirds one.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  And then you're going to film your next movie on it.

• 11:22Speaker 01

  I would, I actually would, um, not the whole thing. No, no one take that quote and run.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  I would, I actually would.

• 11:30Speaker 01

  Hey, look, if, if GoPro wants to fund my, my adventures and, and, and sponsor me and I'll film a movie on, I'll film an entire movie on.

• 11:38Speaker 03

  Well, you're on the final stretch of this one. So you could start a new one anytime.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're almost free for a new one.

• 11:43Speaker 01

  I would love to be involved in it. Please, I could, I could make really pretty footage. I could, I could make things happen. Wait, I see you shaking your head. I literally can see.

• 11:52Speaker 03

  That was edited in by Sam. It's called a live edit.

• 11:56Speaker 01

  I, I have this video idea where it's like, because I was trying to think like, I don't, you know, I keep saying I could be the next tech review channel, but I'm like, man, how do you make a tech review video? What do I test? And I thought, hey, how about I just do a video where I compare it to every camera I can find in my house? And I've got like a trail cam over there. I've got like an endoscope camera. I've got like some random bullshit, but I've got also a Nikon ZR. I've got like a black magic. I could be like, ooh, that might be fun comparison.

• 12:25Speaker 03

  You've also got a few lenses I hear. So you could every lens, every video you have to use every lens.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  Oh, I'll try. I guess, but I, I got a lot of lens. You don't know, man. You don't know how many lenses I have. No one really knows.

• 12:37Speaker 02

  It's a totally normal and countable number. I'm sure.

• 12:41Speaker 01

  Yes, and I definitely know the count.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  Cause it's not very high.

• 12:44Speaker 01

  One lens, ah, ah, ah.

• 12:48Speaker 01

  Those are the. I might. You're just so bad. I'm going to leave.

• 12:52Speaker 03

  Look, you guys are smart. You're entrenched in tech and knowledge and I, I'm fart joke guy. I'm off in the corner. I got, I got a word or two to share.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  Look, if I was going to boil you down to one bit, I'd say that you're Dracula impression guy, if anything. Okay?

• 13:07Speaker 03

  Somebody comes to my stream. I can't verify this, but they told me they legally changed their name, like their legal name to Drake Ulysses Law.

• 13:16Speaker 02

  I believe them.

• 13:17Speaker 03

  And I didn't have the heart to tell them this, but the way they spelled it out in my chat, I was like, I think they spelled it wrong.

• 13:25Speaker 03

  I hope they're not watching right now, but also they changed their name to Drake Ulysses Law. Can you imagine getting the application like, you know, someone applying for a job, you're like, all right, we got Tim Robbins, we got Michael Bowman, we got Drake, Drake, Drake, is this a joke? Drake, Ulysses Law?

• 13:43Speaker 02

  I don't think if, if you're not saying it with a voice, especially, I don't know if that reads. I feel like the person would look at it and be like Drake Ulysses Law.

• 13:51Speaker 03

  If it's spelled D R A K E, maybe, but if it's D R A C E, I feel like I would immediately go Drac.

• 13:56Speaker 02

  Uh, Drac Ulysses Law, uh, maybe.

• 13:59Speaker 01

  We could not tell what you were going for when you were saying it to us, so I wouldn't be so sure.

• 14:04Speaker 03

  I'm rooting for you out there, I'm rooting for you. Also, I might think you're absolutely insane for doing that.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  Don't mind me, I'm taking selfies.

• 14:11Speaker 02

  The next episode without either of our inputs is just gonna be like sponsored by GoPro, filmed entirely on GoPro, it's just Mark's camera the whole time, but it's him on Go.

• 14:18Speaker 03

  Can you live stream, can I use this as a webcam?

• 14:20Speaker 02

  Yes, you can. You can do it wired for sure, and I believe some of, I only have a 10, so I don't know what the newest ones are, I believe you could do it wirelessly if you, cause I have looked into using those as like the camera in the corner of my room. Or for like when Manny and I did cooking streams for a long time, we did stream, we used a GoPro for that, but we had it wired into a laptop, it's very good.

• 14:42Speaker 01

  Oh, I will look into that.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm looking for a stream cam. Hey, GoPro, I know how much you love working with Mark and how much you're supporting him. If there's any splash off. You know, this, this camera could be a GoPro, it's just some webcam right now, you could look for an upgrade.

• 14:59Speaker 01

  Please, please, GoPro, I'm so, I will sell my soul and my audience. I've volunteered to sacrifice my audience for this. And, and my audience has been like, yeah, yeah, sacrifice me and.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  I don't want it that bad, but if you send me one, I'll probably use it.

• 15:13Speaker 03

  You've heard of Jonestown, have you heard of Mark Town?

• 15:17Speaker 02

  Markville.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  Say that joke again, but in a Dracula voice.

• 15:21Speaker 03

  You've heard of Jonestown, but have you heard of Mark Town? Take this GoPro and this cyanide pill, put them together and swallow.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  You know what I fucking just realized you sound like, then we might be about to say the same thing.

• 15:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 15:35Speaker 02

  Have you heard, oh no, now I can't remember, what's it called, Dungeon Suit?

• 15:38Speaker 01

  I don't know the name, yeah, but it's like the vampires and the normal guy.

• 15:42Speaker 03

  You're talking about like the Dingle mire, yes.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  Dingle mire, is that fucking Holy Father?

• 15:47Speaker 03

  I'm sorry, master.

• 15:49Speaker 01

  Stupid, stupid Tegelmeyer. Oh, I was thinking of there's some TV show with like, uh, the, the vampires and then there's the one guy that's like their butler. I don't know the show because I only see clips of it on YouTube shorts.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  Are you talking about, uh, the show with, uh, Matt Berry, uh, what we do in the shadows?

• 16:07Speaker 01

  Yes, yes, that's it.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  That's what we, that's what we do in the shadows. Yeah. That was also a very funny show.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  No, well, I'll pretty much, I don't have many unique voices. Pretty much all of the ones I do are impressions of something I've heard in the past. I mean, Dracula's got a kind of a baseline, right?

• 16:20Speaker 02

  It just really hit this time that that's that voice. Cause it's pretty dead on.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  We still have not contacted Avengers. I want that Torbeck.

• 16:28Speaker 02

  No, no, I'm emailing with Andy. I'm emailing with Andy.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  Email with Andy?

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Whoa. Andy, Andy reached out and was like, hey, thanks for the shout out. I will definitely, I'll be happy to teach you the Torbeck voice. And I was like, dude, that sounds sick. I am in emails with Andy from, uh, the voices Torbeck on Legend of, well, not voices, plays as Torbeck.

• 16:51Speaker 03

  We have cool jobs. We get to talk to cool people, do cool things.

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Cool jobs.

• 16:55Speaker 02

  It's very cool.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  You think the reason ghosts are, I'm not gonna talk about it. I'm done. All right. I'm done talking about.

• 17:01Speaker 03

  I have no idea what you were just starting to ask. Do you think ghosts are real? Is that what you said?

• 17:05Speaker 01

  No, I was just saying like, you know, I look at the promo video of GoPro and they're so good at making those promo videos. Cause they have so many talented people that are filming them and helping support it. And you think that the reason they don't want to support me is because, I don't, I can't, I don't even know how to make cool shit like that. I don't go outside. This is because I don't go outside.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  It's cause you don't snowboard, Mark.

• 17:25Speaker 01

  But imagine like, you know, going through, I don't want to spoil anything in your movie, but imagine all of the blood, but like GoPro vision of going through it. That's the thing I have. I would have used it. We had the fuck it bucket. I haven't even talked about the fuck it bucket on set. We had the fuck it bucket, right?

• 17:42Speaker 03

  I might've, when everyone I guess gets in the mood sometimes. I'm glad you had some stress relief on set.

• 17:46Speaker 01

  No, come on, man.

• 17:48Speaker 03

  Is that why we saw the white edit of Iron Lung?

• 17:50Speaker 01

  No.

• 17:54Speaker 02

  Mark actually made that. That's just him.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  No, we had to, well, because, okay, I don't know if I should.

• 17:59Speaker 03

  Mr. Fuck it, you put your balls in my tub.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  It's a very professional, very insurance company safe way of putting a red camera into a waterproof Home Depot bucket. And so you have a Home Depot bucket and you put the camera in there with some kind of platform. And then you get an acrylic dome and you glue it all up and you put it in the blood. And so we had that.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  This sounds awesome.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  It was awesome. I was super doubtful when it happened, but the problem was because the camera's in the bucket and it's like sealed in there. So to redo anything or, or get it out of there, it's like a whole process, 30 minutes just to get it in and out, even with like quick drying glue and stuff. But once it's in there, it's like, let's go. So difficult to do. If I just had this for that shot specifically was like under the crawl space and like going there again, I'm talking spoilers now. I can talk about the movie and I'm going to talk about the movie.

• 18:55Speaker 02

  It's out. It's avail. If you haven't seen it at this point, that's on you. Or if you live in a country where it's not available, because it's whatever.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  So it would have been so nice to have something like this, which is of a quality where it's like, okay, we can get this. And this didn't exist then, but it's like, put this in the blood, go through, have a bunch of just these covers. Because cleaning the blood off of this, it's so sticky. It like, it leaves residue. So it's like, you just pop one of these off, pop another like back on here, or you just have another GoPro off to the side, ready to go. And you, and I even had like behind the scenes with GoPro on that movie where there were some angles that it was getting where I was like, oh, if this footage was, oh my God. I was really debating using the footage for that. I, I, it would take a ton of cleanup for painting out the other people and the cameramen and all the other people standing behind the main camera.

• 19:45Speaker 01

  But, oh, it was a very good.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  I just want to reiterate for our audience, we are not sponsored by GoPro despite how hard it feels like we are.

• 19:52Speaker 01

  I don't even have like a coupon. I realize that. I don't even have like a, hey, get 10% off by using my code. I don't even have a code.

• 20:00Speaker 03

  I think Bob and I even have GoPro codes.

• 20:02Speaker 01

  You've got codes? How'd you get codes?

• 20:04Speaker 03

  They just like us, I guess.

• 20:05Speaker 02

  I don't know if we're allowed to tell him about that, but yeah, it's fine. Everyone's in your boat, Mark. No one, no one's more left out than you are. That's for sure.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  Well, we have GoPros in our boat. He's got Go Amateurs in his.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  No, that's not what you said. I'd like you to stick to what you said the first time around.

• 20:21Speaker 03

  Couldn't remember. You have to remind me.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  No, I'm pretty sure you remember.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  You remember.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  Babe.

• 20:27Speaker 02

  Do you actually not remember?

• 20:28Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 20:29Speaker 02

  Jesus.

• 20:30Speaker 03

  If I have a superpower, it's that I can't remember much.

• 20:34Speaker 02

  Anything. I require you to refer to them as come amateurs from now on.

• 20:39Speaker 03

  Did I say that already today? Come amateur?

• 20:40Speaker 02

  No, not from today, from previous episodes. It was a whole thing we talked about.

• 20:45Speaker 03

  Thank God. I thought it was today. Oh, man. That's a pretty good one. I should have remembered that.

• 20:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, the audience loved it. They were, they thought it was very funny. Yeah.

• 20:52Speaker 03

  What were we saying? Yeah, we're not sponsored, but Mark wants us to be, or he wants him to be.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  And if there's some splashdown, if there's some trickle down sponsorship that drips onto you guys, that's fine. I'm okay with that.

• 21:03Speaker 02

  Trickle on me, GoPro.

• 21:06Speaker 03

  Yeah. We'll crash down so we can get trickled on. Cause you're short.

• 21:11Speaker 03

  Minus one. Shit, I forgot you were hosting.

• 21:15Speaker 03

  Because you're average.

• 21:19Speaker 02

  Can't be mad about that. Can't be mad.

• 21:21Speaker 01

  I'm done talking now. It'll be you guys' turn and because.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  Sam's sitting in the live edit control room just like, God, I missed one. Fuck.

• 21:32Speaker 01

  I need my transparent head, Wade head shaking gift to put over his.

• 21:39Speaker 01

  All right, since Wade is mean, Bob, you get to go first on.

• 21:45Speaker 03

  How many different names did you think of that you didn't want to call me out?

• 21:51Speaker 03

  Mean.

• 21:52Speaker 02

  I'm the nice one. Anyway, it's not a very fair competition for you, Wade.

• 21:56Speaker 03

  Let me get him this little stepping stool so we can get to my level.

• 21:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I knew it was. I knew it was. I knew there was something coming. Minus another, minus another.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  It's gonna be a close game, except for Wade's negative 13 short joke points.

• 22:08Speaker 03

  Mark, it's a really tall, above average stepping stool.

• 22:13Speaker 02

  Isn't that worse?

• 22:14Speaker 03

  Shut up, Bob.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  All right, minus one more. Mike, keep it up, man. Extra tall stool.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  All right, I get to go first. Well, it's hard for multiple reasons. It's hard for me to think of anything right now, except for the evening, not last evening, but the night before that I spent. Honestly, probably the second most worried I've ever been about a person, which not for good reason. He was fine, but James was sick. We put James to bed Sunday night. We always turn the monitor on, right? And it's with a video monitor so we can watch him. And he always just sort of sleeps. Sometimes he gets up and gets a drink or whatever. He's very independent now. I know I moaned a lot about how he had trouble sleeping when he was younger. He's great now at sleeping. He sleeps on his own. He'll wake up and he'll like put it, he'll soothe himself and get back to sleep.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Awesome. With the monitor on, it was like a normal Sunday and we were kind of like, whoo, like got through the weekend, had some fun times. Now we got to get ready. Monday, Tuesday, we got to pack because we're going on this big trip. Lots to do. We were putting it off over the weekend and like half an hour after James went down. I heard like a weird noise, which happens, but usually if I hear something that I'm not a hundred percent sure what it is, like it's, you know, sounds he makes every night when he sleeps. I look and I pulled up the monitor and looked and it was like, oh, that's a weird, it's like really shadowy. Ah, that looks funny. And then he sort of just looks up and goes, ah, and I was like, oh, fuck. Oh, my God. He had thrown up, but we get up there and if James watches this in the future, I mean this in the nicest way possible.

• 23:48Speaker 02

  God, the smell. Man, you just never get used to it. Like there, I always was like, man, how do parents deal with that? And then for me, at least, the truth is you don't get used to it. Poops always smell bad. Throw up always smells bad. It really gets me, but you don't have a choice. He threw up in his bed and he had it on himself and on his jammies. And so I like, I had to grab him and touch the throw up and get him to the bathroom and like, it was rough, but was like, okay, that's weird. This is out of nowhere. He wasn't sick today. He was totally happy. And we put him in the bath and got him cleaned up. And after a while of like, God, okay, let's like air it out. Let's change the sheets. He's in the bath and everything's

• 24:31Speaker 02

  great. He seems happy. He seems chill. I stand him up, get him out of the bath, start drying him off. And he's standing there in the bathroom with his towel around him. And he just looks up at me and goes like, into the towel, into my hands, onto the floor. He proceeded to throw up about every 15 minutes for the next four hours of the evening, which is a long time for that pattern to go on. The first, the first couple, obviously, we had just had dinner and then had the ice cream as a little treat and then gone to bed. Eventually, he was empty, but for several hours, he was totally empty. There was no food left. And still, he would like, I was holding him in the chair, sitting with him, and he would like, lay down and just be like,

• 25:14Speaker 02

  oh, because he's fucking exhausted, because it's horrific to throw up constantly. And he's like, passing out, just like, and I'm sitting there watching, I'm making sure he's still breathing, everything's good. And every 15 minutes, he just sits up and goes,

• 25:29Speaker 02

  nothing comes out like, just like bile, like nothing is coming out misery. And every time he throws up, it's like, I'm just holding him like, so that whole night, like I held him until he stopped throwing up, which was like, a little more than four hours, maybe. And actually, Manny swapped out for, for like, the second half. That's not fair. But we were like, crazy. We were considering going to the ER because, and we were watching him like, okay, if he doesn't stop, we're gonna have to go. But it's the middle of the night right now. It's gonna be traumatic experience for him if we have to take him, especially if he's fine. And right when we were like, okay, we should go, stopped. He just chilled out and finally was like, done.

• 26:10Speaker 02

  But I I basically laid, we put him in bed and I laid next to him the whole night, just staring at him, just being like, cause he likes to sleep on his back. So I'm staring at him like, don't sleep on your back and throw up in your sleep. But like, that's horrific. Don't, you know, if you do get sick, I need to be here to help or try and catch it. Like, I'm just laying there, just staring at him like, and then at some point, I fell asleep at like six or seven in the morning for a bit. And Mandy had gone and got, tried to get some sleep in the bed so that at least one of us had some sleep for the next day. And she got like, three hours of sleep. And then he was fine. Yesterday, the whole day, we were like, what's happening? Is he sick? Is it a virus? Is it a what? He's fine. He woke up and was like,

• 26:52Speaker 02

  I'm thirsty. I'm hungry. Give him. We were like, you know, let's go slow. Let's see what happens. Totally fine. Didn't throw up again. He did have some like dummy troubles. Uh, but that's pretty normal. Otherwise, he was like energetic and fine and confused why we weren't letting him eat food, basically. But Jesus Christ, laying up all night, staring at him, wondering if he was okay, trying to figure out what the fuck to do in the middle of the night. That's the, I have not felt that kind of worry since, uh, James was born and Mandy's, uh, was a C-section and everything that happened in the hospital was more stressful for me than her, thankfully. But like, it's awful. And like, this is not the point. But the whole

• 27:34Speaker 02

  time, I kept my mind kept going back to like, okay, but imagine this, but like, you have a child who has like a terminal illness, or a child who has like a chronic illness or something. I don't know what people do. Not the point, and not my experience. But thanks to TikTok, I see a lot of videos about kids who, you know, have different disorders, diseases, whatever. I can't imagine. It was one night for me and I felt like I was going to pass out from stress. And he's fine. And I shouldn't have been so worried because it was a long time of throwing up, but he was fine. But like, god damn, that now, now when TikTok shows me those videos, even more than before, I'm immediately just like, I can't. And I have to scroll or close TikTok or whatever, because I don't know what people do. I don't know that

• 28:18Speaker 02

  kind of, I don't know if it's a particular. Button for me that I don't handle very well, or if that's just how it feels for everyone, but it's an actual nightmare to just be laying and it doesn't have to be a kid either. I'm sure if you have a parent or sibling or anyone you know who's ill, who you care that much about. I cannot fucking imagine and it's exhausting. And the punchline of my story is he's totally fine. He possibly had a stomach virus or maybe he's like lactose intolerant. Cause he's never really liked milk or ice cream and he ate more ice cream than he ever has before, which was like a small scoop of ice cream on Sunday. Like, so we put him to bed last night and it felt like we finally got him to bed after Sunday night. Cause all day we were like watching him and it was whatever. Put him to bed last night and it was like, okay, well, there's 24 hours gone.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  In 24 hours from now, we'll be on a plane to England. Better start packing and stuff, I guess.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  That's, that's intense, man. The good news is you got two points for that story. Was it worth it? Do it again.

• 29:16Speaker 02

  How much sadder does it need to be to get another point out of it?

• 29:20Speaker 01

  Well, okay.

• 29:20Speaker 02

  Did I emphasize how much he was crying about how upset he was?

• 29:24Speaker 01

  Okay, you're getting a little, you're getting a little uppity about this whole milking it thing. So I'm like, I'm just saying two points is pretty generous. You're already in the lead, so maybe don't push your luck. Come on, man.

• 29:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, man. Two points for a vomit story. You got plenty.

• 29:36Speaker 02

  I'll just let Wade beat himself. That's fine. Actually, you know, one, one funny thing that kept happening that was really funny in the moment compared to everything else. He was, I, every time when I was holding him, Mandy was like going and we doing other stuff. Cause we had two dogs in the house also. He would like get sick, whatever, and I would text Mandy to be like, oh, it happened again. Like, can you, you know, whatever, can you come help? And he started sitting up and be like, oh, I'm going to be sick. Are you going to text mom? Hey Siri, text Mandy.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  Cause I, cause I was using hands free Siri to just be like, ah, no, not now, not now. Stop phone. Stop. Not you.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  But I was doing, I was doing that because I was holding him, I was holding him, right? So I was like, hey, phone, text Mandy, help or whatever. And but so while he's being sick and I'm super worried, he just like pauses and is like, uh, text, you should text Mandy.

• 30:34Speaker 02

  Are you gonna text Mandy or do I? Weird.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  Wait, I'll give you a point if you shout out at the top of your lungs, every call out to every like listening voice from our listeners and tell them to buy like a 55 gallon drum of lube. You know what I mean?

• 30:50Speaker 02

  He doesn't.

• 30:51Speaker 03

  Everybody out there, we're taking a quick ad break here to let you all know that 55 gallon drum bags of lube are on sale and you can buy them right now. Mark.com slash lube.

• 31:02Speaker 02

  I told you a hundred percent, he didn't know what you meant.

• 31:05Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 31:07Speaker 03

  Did I do it?

• 31:08Speaker 02

  No. He wanted you to like, ask their Amazon echoes to buy a 55 gallon drum of lube.

• 31:16Speaker 03

  Hey Alexa, buy a 55 gallon drum of lube. Hey Siri, buy a 55 gallon drum of lube. Hey Tony in the corner that has my phone for some reason, buy a 55 gallon drum of lube. Mom, it's your son and or daughter, buy me some lube. My birthday is coming up sometime in the next year.

• 31:35Speaker 02

  I can't believe you left out Bigsby.

• 31:38Speaker 03

  Bigsby? Hey Bigsby, I don't drink coffee, but I think you have lube too.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  Isn't that the, um, that the name of the Samsung guy?

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Bigsby?

• 31:48Speaker 02

  Bigsby?

• 31:48Speaker 01

  Wait, oh no, no, wait, isn't that the one where they made it like a female avatar of it? And then they had to like, put her down basically because the internet got too horny about it?

• 31:59Speaker 02

  Galaxy AI. Oh, perhaps it's not, maybe Bigsby is just demonstrating how old I am to people.

• 32:06Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that wasn't Bigsby, it was Samsung Sam? I don't know. We're not sponsored by them either.

• 32:13Speaker 03

  Last. All right, Wade, it's your turn. Oh, where do I begin? Well, I guess you mentioned the burnout thing. So I guess I'll address the burnout thing. So Mark and I were talking, Bob wouldn't even call yet. Late. Somehow life has just been kind of rough here on the Barnes household for the last like six, seven months. A lot of people that watch my content outside of Distractible, I've talked about some of it on stream and whatnot. But like, without going into specifics, we've had a lot of family health issues. I've had a lot of personal health issues, which has devolved into mental health issues, I think, which is what I think the palpitations in my chest supposedly are, which I don't know if I fully trust it, but that's what they tell me. So I'm going to go with it. Cause I get, I guess they're panic attacks. I don't know.

• 32:54Speaker 03

  For me, it's just like randomly, my heart goes like from zero to a thousand beats per second, especially whenever I'm laying down at night. I'm like, oh man, time for sleep.

• 33:04Speaker 03

  And it's really fucking terrible. It's an awful feeling, but that's rolled over into my professional life where like, you know, I have fun making YouTube videos. I have fun streaming. I have fun on the podcast, but like, right now, everything in life just feels like, I really don't want to do that. I don't have any motivation to do that. And I'm guessing that, I mean, you know, I've gone through some phases of burnout throughout my career, but just, there's just been a big culmination of just being really tired. My sleep hasn't been great. The days are very just full. There's a lot of crap and I don't know. I just, uh, Mark was saying, maybe I needed a vacation. I think maybe that's true. Every vacation I've taken since our honeymoon has had some work component to it.

• 33:45Speaker 03

  I just haven't had like a, I'm actually not working or doing anything like, you know, Molly and I are just getting away. It's like, you know, I love hanging out with friends and family and stuff, but we've not had a trip, just the two of us actually getting away since our honeymoon. And I feel like a lot of people probably do that, but I don't even feel like I take days off. Like I won't stream for three or four days, but those days are still filled with like meetings or, you know, tax conversations or going through emails, going through DMs and stuff. Cause I work with like a management company for ads and sponsors and stuff for my, my stuff. And there's always something, there's always something work related. I never turn it off. And I really feel like more than ever for the first Time in a long time. It's just really impacting me. My focus is off. There've been some highlights and there's still games I enjoy playing.

• 34:30Speaker 03

  I recorded Blueprints again last night for a few hours, which is a game I still absolutely love. I've gone back to Diablo two for the first time in like 10 years, which I absolutely love. Dungeon Crawler Carl, you guys getting me to start reading that series. I just finished Parade of Horribles last night. Finished reading that. It wasn't like everything sucks and I'm like depressed or you know, whatever. It's just physical health issues and then having people you care about going through physical health issues. And a lot of that is really just mentally taxing. Like you were talking about the caregiver type stuff, you know? We were just raising money for St. Jude. Uh, May, St. Jude does their play live every year. So Molly had a campaign and I was joining her and we did some different campaigns to raise money for St. Jude, which get not sponsored, but shout out to them because whenever they're going, whenever you're talking about someone like with a terminally ill child

• 35:15Speaker 03

  or you know, people going through cancer, stuff like that. Like I've gotten to go down and tour St. Jude's facilities a couple of times and seeing it feels like you're in a school more than a hospital. I know people are like, ew, school, but like school so much better than the feeling of being in a hospital. And the kids down there genuinely seem like, you know, they're happy, they're enjoying life, they're living it to the fullest. And they're well taken care of. It removes a lot of the burdens from families and stuff. So people that are going through that kind of thing, I implore you to look into St. Jude or organizations like that. And I'm really happy to help fundraise for stuff like that. I'll be doing something for the American Heart Association here soon too. We have a lot of heart stuff in my family. So personal connections, everyone's gone through cancer in their family or friend. If someone knows someone, right? Everyone knows someone that's gone through stuff like that. So it's nice being able to do things like that.

• 35:58Speaker 03

  It's nice being able to do have the careers that we have. But I think we all go through burnout and I'm just, I'm just going through some phase of it right now, which sucks. But I've got this knee brace I was showing off earlier because I had messed up my knee playing basketball with my nephew like a month and a half ago. You all know, I've got the slap tear in my shoulder. I've not had surgery on. Apparently I've got a deviated septum and I started developing like panic attacks this year. It's like, those are all relatively minor health issues and they're great. Like maybe it's not palpitations if they're more than stress, but I think they're just stress. I can live with it. The slap tear, I don't have to have surgery. The knee, it'll heal probably on prednisone. For 10 days and got the knee brace, whatever. So it's all minor for me, but some of the stuff in my family is a little bit more severe.

• 36:41Speaker 03

  I don't know. It's just, it's been taxing and uh, it's been really hard to find motivation. And I know people have it a lot worse than I do, and that's not an excuse. Like you're allowed to be depressed even, or you know, have burnout, even if you're not going through it as bad as someone else, but it's still, there's still an added pressure about it that feels like I shouldn't for some reason, which makes things even worse. Whenever you're like, so and so's got it so much worse than I needed to buck up. And then you can't buck up and it's like, oh God, I'm so pathetic. I'm so weak. I'm so like, and you start beating yourself up even more about it. It just exacerbates the situation and I've been going through cycles of that for about seven or eight months on and off. Just like since about October of last year, it's just been like every week it's something and I was so, at the end of the year, I was like, oh God, thank God 2026 is almost here.

• 37:25Speaker 03

  I am so done with 2025 and now hindsight, I'm like, 2025, come back. We had it so good, you and I, I didn't know what I had. I took you for granted. I love you 2025.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  That's not good.

• 37:36Speaker 03

  But I'll get over it. I'll be fine. It's just a thing I'm going through right now. And I don't go into stuff like that too often publicly. I don't know why. I've always looked at my job as like, I'm here to entertain, but like more so, it's whatever people kind of view my content as. Some people probably put stuff on that we do or I do to go to sleep. Some people turn it on for a laugh. Some people turn it on for community. Some people turn it on just to see specific games whatsoever. It doesn't matter. If you enjoy the content, if you lurk, if you chat, if you comment, whatever. But my job is, hey, you're getting home from work. You have your own problems. You've had your own long day. You're looking for something to watch or you know, listen to. And that's what I'm supposed to provide, not sit here and bitch and moan about my own personal shit, which I do occasionally sometimes, but typically I try to keep all that separate

• 38:20Speaker 03

  and just give people something to enjoy during their free time. Cause there's a lot of content to consume. So for people to choose anything that we do. Like, well, I want you to enjoy it, but however you enjoy it, whatever you enjoy it for, I want them to enjoy it, but been a struggle. It's been a struggle lately. And again, there's been some highs. I went folding. You guys heard of folding? Bob, did you, have you ever been folding?

• 38:39Speaker 02

  I have not, no. I know what it is.

• 38:41Speaker 03

  Yeah. So friends, mutual friends of ours invited us out to go folding over the weekend, which is basically like you take, um, oh God, what's the game called? We throw the goddamn bean bags at the boards. Cornhole. It's like a flat cornhole board, which is just rectangle of wood on the ground. You set up bowling pins on it. You stand on opposite. You've got two of these across from each other like in cornhole. You have teams on opposite sides and you throw a football and try to knock over the bowling pins. It was a lot of fun. I shouldn't have done it. My doctor literally two days before gave me an knee brace, told me to take two weeks, not do anything. And then I went and threw football for an hour. And now I was going pretty easy on it, but they were plans I had in progress and I don't like cancelling plans on people. I was telling Mark, another problem of mine is I'm way too like people pleaser.

• 39:25Speaker 03

  I have people pleaser running through my veins where I go out of my way for everyone, no matter what, uh, at my own expense quite often. And I, again, I had fun. I enjoyed it. I'd love to do it again, but I really shouldn't have done it while my knees messed up. I don't know, not to be depressing, derailing. Uh, I hate, I hate being a downer, but it's a, it's been a time. Some of the health issues I think are going to resolve themselves and be fine, both for myself and people around me. But some of them I don't know. I just genuinely don't know how it's going to play out. Uh, I've got a couple of people in my life that are just getting up there in years and starting to show signs of I've got concerns. Um, and I think just mortality itself has been a lot more present on my mind in the last half a year or so. I've just had a lot more concerns and a lot, a lot of people around me are struggling.

• 40:09Speaker 03

  And whenever you were struggling and people around you were struggling and you're trying to lift them up, often what you end up doing is pushing yourself down further. I think that's what I've been doing, if I'm being honest.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  I mean, that's, that's a lot to, to dump out and you keep saying like, oh, I'll get over it. Like, oh, I'll be fine. And, but you were also saying like, oh, you shouldn't have the buck up, you know, man up, pull yourself up by the bootstraps mentality. Cause I mean, it's a, it's not nothing, the things you got going on, even if the job is to be an entertainer. I've definitely had plenty of times on this podcast where in the midst of all of it, uh, that people have not, and probably won't see of me blowing up for one reason or another and storming out of a recording session, only to come back and be like, oh man, it's real tough, you know? When that's the truth of it, like it's just like, man, it's just really tough and I don't know how to deal with it and it'll blow up in some way or some form. And that's not fair to the people around me, you know?

• 41:01Speaker 01

  It's a, but still it's like, it's real, you know? I don't think you should be ashamed of that. I don't think anybody should.

• 41:08Speaker 02

  Well, and that's the funny thing about this job. I don't think we're going to edit that out of this episode, but like the, you know, part of the thing about being entertaining is like, you don't, you don't have to exclusively be like that your entire life to make sure that what you're offering people when they're trying to like be entertained by your content is like that. And it's probably actually good not to. Mark's point about just being the, the lie of just be like, no, I'll be fine. That works right until it doesn't, right? Like, I believe that you probably will be fine because you're pretty resilient and like things are going okay for you outside of the stressful stuff as far as I know, but you can't just say that and brush it away. I don't know if you specifically, but like, maybe you need to talk to someone. I've

• 41:53Speaker 02

  certainly lately been feeling like maybe I need to talk to somebody and I put that as like the lowest possible priority, just because like everything else, everything around me is important. What other people that I care about have going on is important. Having a kid, he's pretty much top importance 24 seven, regardless of how I feel or what's going on with me, but like, that doesn't mean that you never should take care of it. And like, again, I'm not accusing you of anything. It's a weird way to put it, but I believe you probably do have it handled because it's just stuff that you're going through. And I think, I think most of it will resolve because I know some of what you're going through. Don't just assume that it's easy to just be like, I'll be fine and then push it down. But that's not always necessarily

• 42:38Speaker 02

  true. And it's fine to go and talk to someone. It's healthy to do that. Talk to a friend or family or talk to someone professionally for whatever, like.

• 42:47Speaker 03

  Truth is I've done both. Um, last fall, I actually preemptively started going in and talking to, um, I guess counselors, the proper term. Um, I went in for just some counseling. It was more preemptive than anything because I felt, I felt the start of this even before the things that actually caused me to like, kind of fall off the cliff of the burnout feeling. We've been very fortunate that we've had success, you know, with podcasts, our own channels and stuff like that over the years. Success is great, but success also comes at different costs. I've talked to my community about how like I miss. It's really nice having like hundreds of people come and watch, you know, a live stream, right? I'm never gonna complain about having people come hundreds or thousands or whatever it is, but like, there was also something nice about like that. There's 10 people and we can, I can chat with each of them, get to know them, like it's kind of a friend field,

• 43:31Speaker 03

  like hang out with friends. And that vibe from content creation is pretty much gone now, right? Cause we just, we've blown up to that point. In personal lives too, though, people see success and, you know, a lot of them are happy for you and, you know, you know, are nice about it. But some people see it and they get jealous, or they have their own things going on and they feel like they reach a point of desperation. They have to reach out like, you're doing well, can you help me with this? Can you help me with that? And that's kind of happened a lot lately. You know, the first time's one thing and then the 10th time one person does it's like, okay, you're not wanting help, you're wanting me to be your like, sugar, whatever relationship it is, sugar friend, sugar.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  Sugar friend's definitely the thing.

• 44:08Speaker 03

  It's not, you know, friends, family, whatever. People have done it. And feeling some of my personal relationships change was bothering me. So I actually went in and I started talking about that last fall with somebody and we ended up working through some other stuff too. And I actually just finished a couple of months ago, you know, like this four to six month, like once a week chat, council session, whatever you want to call it. And it was helpful. But a lot of my life, I mean, I hearken back to when I was four years old and my parents first split up. And I don't think anyone meant to put me under pressure, but my grandparents, my mom, my dad, they would ask like, hey, who do you want to go spend time with this weekend? Do you want to go to your mom's? You want to go to your dad's? Like your grandparents? We're never gonna make you go anywhere you don't want to go? Where do you want to go? And I guess I had an ego even as a kid. Cause

• 44:50Speaker 03

  I was like, well, everyone loves spending time with me. So whoever I don't choose is gonna be so sad that I didn't pick them. No one wants a break from the kid. But like, you know, as a kid, it was like, I don't want to let them down. So I'm gonna, I'll choose you this weekend, you that weekend and them the weekend after. I'll rotate. I want to go here and hang out with my friends, but I'm gonna choose this way. Cause I want to make everybody happy. And my people pleasing was just like instituted then. And then, um, I lost my dad when I was 11. My grandpa died three months later. And then we had like 20 some odd more deaths in the family and close friends over like the next five or six years. After my dad died, it was the first time I ever got straight A's. And I did it because I knew my grandparents always seemed really happy when I did well in school. They they wanted me to have a good future. So when my dad died and my grandma was

• 45:35Speaker 03

  very obviously torn up about it was her son. I was like, okay, I'm gonna work harder in school. I'm gonna get good grades. I'm gonna try to give them something to some beacon of light. I will be the beacon of light. And so I've just always had this pressure of like, even before making content, that I'm responsible for people's happiness. And with the platform we have, sometimes there's a pressure of like, am I doing enough? Am I saying all the things I should say? Like, there's a lot of issues we don't touch on, and I don't know that I want to touch on. But sometimes my brain's like, should we go into all of these things? Should we share a really uninformed opinion? At least my opinion would be uninformed. Should I do this? Am I doing enough? Am I entertaining enough? Am I helping people enough? And I've never taken time to really consider what life would be like if I just took a break from trying

• 46:20Speaker 03

  to uplift all those around me. And for whatever reason, like I said, health wise, people around me, the last six months, it's just that pressure is finally just hit me to the point where it's like, I can't, I can't lift up everyone else. Cause I'm, I'm really kind of at a point of burnout. That's pretty strong. But I have been talking about it. I've been open about, you know, Molly and some friends and family. We've talked about it a little bit, you know, before show here on this episode. But I do generally try to just probably unhealthy, but I do try to just shove it down. Sometimes I'm like, you know, I've gotten my entire life. I have gone through a lot of stuff. I've lost a lot of people. I've dealt with a lot of shit. I'm sure we, you know, we all, I know you guys have, I know everyone has, but I've always handled it one way. And it's like, whoa, that must be the perfect way to handle it. Cause it's always

• 47:02Speaker 03

  worked so far. It hasn't this past six months. So I'm adapting, but it has been a challenge. And it's new waters for me to be like, my walls are down and I can't put them back up. I'm out of that wall material, concrete, mortar, bricks.

• 47:18Speaker 01

  Wall material, I think is adequate.

• 47:20Speaker 03

  Drywall. I was like, not dry rope. It's something like that.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  Dry rope.

• 47:24Speaker 03

  That's, that's my long winded spiel about the burnout and stuff.

• 47:27Speaker 01

  I really appreciate you sharing that. It's important for a lot of people to know. And just say in general, I'll give you one point.

• 47:34Speaker 03

  Cut up a little short there on the points, aren't you?

• 47:37Speaker 02

  Just let him have one.

• 47:38Speaker 03

  I'm not gonna take away a point for that because I think you're just lashing out because you're shoving things too far down and they always just erupt and you're you're just lashing out. And I can understand that as a friend.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  Right?

• 47:52Speaker 03

  We're friends, right?

• 47:53Speaker 01

  He's nodding. That's Sam doing it. I know that's a live edit nod.

• 47:57Speaker 02

  That's a live edit, yeah. Sam saving it right there.

• 48:00Speaker 03

  I'm nodding with six fingers.

• 48:01Speaker 01

  What?

• 48:02Speaker 03

  I don't know why I thought editing and AI were the same thing for a minute there. I'm fine.

• 48:06Speaker 01

  We we've been talking a lot about it, a lot of our our issues that we're dealing with. Uh, and I think we've-

• 48:13Speaker 03

  Sick baby, depression or burnout and-

• 48:15Speaker 01

  A GoPro.

• 48:18Speaker 01

  We all got problems. They've all equivalent here. I can't get a GoPro sponsorship, a sick kid, you know, general depression and burnout. We're all unfulfilled in life. I think we can all agree on that. I don't know. For once, I I think actually for the first time, I don't have the the the main complaints of the era. Um, I'm, everything is coming up roses with the movie and it's it's a weirdly good time for YouTube movies in general or YouTuber movies. Um, content creation is is booming and and I'm very excited to go into the future about that. Um, so I'm kind of grateful that the thing that I have to complain about is as funny as, uh, I want more, I want silly camera.

• 49:03Speaker 01

  I want, uh, I want thing like that. Um.

• 49:06Speaker 03

  You had your share of stresses over the last few years. I think you deserve a little, uh, break.

• 49:10Speaker 01

  That's fair. That's fair. I appreciate that. All right. Shall we tally the points?

• 49:15Speaker 03

  Well, hold on.

• 49:16Speaker 02

  I'm feeling pretty strong about-

• 49:17Speaker 03

  Maybe we should go a little longer.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  All right, all right. Bob, uh, you got a Bald- Baltimore point, emphasis on the bald. You got a GoPro sympathy point. You got a point for the second biggest worry ever. And then future James trauma. Uh, you got another point for that. So you're, it's a low scoring game, but it's like four points. I was mostly just listening.

• 49:37Speaker 02

  I feel even better about it now. I think Wade lost more points than I had right there.

• 49:41Speaker 03

  Now, hold on. I think if I if I lost points, there is something on the wheel that makes negative points positive, right?

• 49:46Speaker 02

  That is true.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  It's technically true. Right? Yeah. So you got a bald point. I gave you a point for Hobbit Town, USA. Uh, you got a point for Dracula impression guy. You lost a point for a short joke. You lost a point for a stool short joke. You lost a point for the extra tall stool joke.

• 50:05Speaker 01

  I gave you a half a point for your barely understanding the lube joke I was going for. You did it. You did it. So I gave you half a point for that. And then one point for burnout for, for you talking about that. And I think that's very impressive. You have one and a half points.

• 50:19Speaker 03

  If I pull this off, it might be the lowest scoring win in distractible history.

• 50:26Speaker 01

  All right, let's see if that happens because yes, those three points would put you half a point above Bob. If you can just get three points out of this.

• 50:34Speaker 03

  Live, not live points, the other, the negative points, positive and.

• 50:37Speaker 02

  It's, it's absolute value. Yeah. Or golf rules. That's true. Well, let's see how many spins you get to try and make this up.

• 50:44Speaker 03

  I only need one to beat you.

• 50:47Speaker 02

  Okay. Well, I'll, I'll, I'll agree to one or we'll just do three again.

• 50:50Speaker 01

  Three. We got three on the wheel.

• 50:53Speaker 02

  Okay, fine.

• 50:54Speaker 03

  I'm just gonna call it now. It's gonna somehow be host wins.

• 50:57Speaker 01

  Uh, I think we already have like smallest violin, so we can't do anything like that of like the saddest story.

• 51:03Speaker 03

  That would be such a dick, kicking the dick to get that after what we talked about.

• 51:07Speaker 02

  sickest child.

• 51:09Speaker 01

  Sickest child, no, when some of us don't have children.

• 51:12Speaker 02

  Well, whose fault is that?

• 51:14Speaker 01

  That we know of, I guess. I don't know. What are you talking about?

• 51:17Speaker 03

  I just realized that I never mentioned the fact Molly and I celebrated our eight year wedding anniversary this week and our dogs both had birthdays.

• 51:24Speaker 02

  Whoops.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, no points. Yeah, no points for that. Oh, uh, closest to a sponsorship or currently sponsored point for whoever is currently sponsored. And general podcast, uh.

• 51:35Speaker 02

  Has to be like one of us has a sponsorship kind of deal. Okay.

• 51:39Speaker 03

  Okay. Define sponsorship because I've recorded a sponsored video last night that hasn't come out yet. So my.

• 51:44Speaker 01

  That would count. I think that would count. Yeah. And it's like this, we could put this on the bounty board too. Just be like, go get a sponsor for a bounty board.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  It has to be a spite sponsor. The sponsorship has to be about how you are getting it and you're not sharing it with us. And then you have, you show it. Yeah.

• 51:59Speaker 01

  Perfect. Oh, what we should do actually, after we spin the wheel, we decide who the winner is. We'll do a quick, like a few minutes talking about the, the subreddit and the bounty board conversations, the, the, the, the coin flip thing, when we meet fans, all that yada yadas. Uh, it's been really cool seeing people's responses and I want to acknowledge that, but, um, yeah.

• 52:19Speaker 02

  Okay. Let's finish the spins and then yeah, we should talk about that.

• 52:22Speaker 01

  Currently sponsored.

• 52:23Speaker 02

  We have 110 options on the wheel and several of them will save Wade.

• 52:28Speaker 01

  All I needed to hear.

• 52:32Speaker 02

  Tinfoil hat point.

• 52:34Speaker 01

  I think that would go for me for like the GoPros.

• 52:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, honestly, yeah.

• 52:40Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm gonna give myself a point for that.

• 52:43Speaker 03

  That's the most tinfoil hat you think we've had all day.

• 52:45Speaker 01

  It's not that they're ignoring me on purpose, right? They wouldn't do that. I'm.

• 52:49Speaker 02

  Oh, no, no. Mark is gonna finish second place. I can feel it. He just needs one more point to pass away.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  And then surprise golf rules.

• 53:02Speaker 02

  That does also mean if we get golf rules now, Mark is winning.

• 53:06Speaker 01

  That's true. I didn't think about that.

• 53:10Speaker 02

  So that took away one of Wade's avenues to actually succeed. It'll be fine. I'm sure Wade will.

• 53:16Speaker 01

  Unless I get a point and then it's golf rules and then you could still be the lowest.

• 53:20Speaker 02

  Got the flattest. You know what I mean?

• 53:25Speaker 01

  I don't know. Got past tense. Wait, you did this last time too. You tried to get flat.

• 53:30Speaker 02

  Gets the flattest. It's who got the flattest.

• 53:33Speaker 03

  Wasn't it? Isn't it dead? Best Scottish accent too? We still do that current?

• 53:37Speaker 01

  Well, that will approach that next time we get to that.

• 53:39Speaker 02

  It's written into the rules of the rule. Okay, calm down.

• 53:42Speaker 01

  All right. So I don't think any of us got flat. Actually, I think, um, unless you count all my short jokes that Wade was making for me. I got pretty flattened, but no.

• 53:53Speaker 02

  All right, spin number two again.

• 53:55Speaker 03

  That would give me another chance to win if we counted it.

• 53:59Speaker 02

  Coolest illness since last episode.

• 54:02Speaker 03

  James?

• 54:03Speaker 01

  I mean, James gets that point. So James gets a point and by proxy.

• 54:08Speaker 03

  Is he ready to host, Bob?

• 54:09Speaker 02

  He's probably ready to host an episode. He's pretty funny.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  All right, James gets a point there and by proxy is kind of Bob's point, but you know, technically James was.

• 54:17Speaker 03

  Until James turns 18, James points or Bob's points.

• 54:20Speaker 02

  I don't even need it.

• 54:21Speaker 01

  Yep, that's true. He doesn't need it. He's well in the lead. All right.

• 54:24Speaker 03

  Because here comes golf rules.

• 54:26Speaker 01

  Well, then it would be a tie between me and James. Yeah.

• 54:28Speaker 02

  Spin number three.

• 54:31Speaker 02

  Man, I hope one of these just says Wade wins.

• 54:35Speaker 02

  Live points don't count.

• 54:37Speaker 01

  Wow, that's absolute.

• 54:40Speaker 03

  I didn't have any live points, I don't think.

• 54:42Speaker 01

  All right, no live points, but it's not a respin. That is what that is. All right. So with Wade remaining at one and a half points, those short jokes didn't feel very worth it now, did they?

• 54:53Speaker 03

  They were funny. I don't regret it.

• 54:55Speaker 01

  Minus one future point.

• 54:57Speaker 03

  You won't remember that.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  Every episode for the next year that Mark hosts, there's gonna be an entire subreddit panic about like, did he do the point? Wade, minus one Wade point. Did he do it? It's still out there.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  All right. Speaking of the subreddit, the subreddit's been buzzing with activity. Uh, there's been so many people that are excited since the last time we did a constitution update, which is the first time people have ever been excited about a constitutional update.

• 55:23Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna lie.

• 55:24Speaker 02

  In the world in general?

• 55:26Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, yeah, something like that. I think so. Oh, my God.

• 55:30Speaker 03

  I like how the top post on the subreddit is Mark asking for a referral code for GoPro.

• 55:36Speaker 01

  I know. I just saw that. I'm just like, I'm not asking for a referral code. I'm just saying I don't have one. But there's a lot of people talking, but there's an official bounty board point posting thing? There's a lot of bounties on here. I'm actually afraid there are too many bounties.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, I do think while some of these are funny, I feel like they sort of don't work and could be taken off the board. I don't wanna, I don't wanna overcomplicate things, cuz none of the three of us made this happen. This is all courtesy of the mods of the subreddit.

• 56:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:08Speaker 02

  Putting things together. Um, but yeah, like, some of these are very funny.

• 56:12Speaker 01

  And some are easier than others, but only one person can claim it. So I guess the first person to do it claims it, you know, we, it's up to us to pay attention to these. If the bounty boards, you know, can just absolutely devastate the landscape, then so be it.

• 56:27Speaker 02

  This is not clear, I think, in the constitution. How many points are these worth? Is that like an on the fly thing? Like when you cash in the bounty, we'll debate between ourselves. How many? Cause some of them, I know the person who posted it was like, this should be worth 10 points or whatever. And I think the mods kind of took the ideas and sort of disregarded the points. Cause the points were all over the place and that's not really, that's not a balanced approach. To just let whomever comes up with it.

• 56:54Speaker 01

  There should be a one point bounty for easier things. Maybe a two point, three point, or maybe only one in a two point thing. So it's like easy. I don't think any more than three. I think one or two sounds, cause you want it to be able to like help, but you don't want it to be the entire episode.

• 57:10Speaker 02

  I, I like either one or two, or maybe like one or three. But then it to be a three, it needs to be like way above and beyond. So there's basically like regular bounties and special bounties.

• 57:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. So we need to, we need to coordinate that. That would be.

• 57:25Speaker 02

  I think we can do it on the fly. I think we should leave that to where like when someone cashes a bounty in.

• 57:30Speaker 01

  It's up to the judge.

• 57:31Speaker 02

  Part of that process is, okay, that counts as getting that bounty. Now is that a normal or an extra special? I feel like we're all on board with the bounties seem really fun. So we're going to play along, right? And, and be, you know, be relatively fair with the point, the point bartering. Plus, if you're a total bitch about it, then you're never, you're never getting any bounty points. You gotta be careful. You gotta play your card check.

• 57:54Speaker 03

  I'm fucked. I'm always a total bitch.

• 57:56Speaker 01

  Can we play this like immunity, you know, charms where it's like at the right before the point counting? We're like, wait a minute, God, I was on a farm.

• 58:04Speaker 02

  I do think that that should like, cause then you could hold it in your pocket too, right? If you have one and it gets to a thing where it's like, it's, you're down by one or it's tied. Or you can just be like, ah, you know, with that noise and.

• 58:17Speaker 03

  Your honor, may I approach the bench? I have a bounty to turn in.

• 58:20Speaker 02

  Perhaps the rule should be just for clarity, before any wheels spin. So like, as soon as the wheel determining how many, as soon as the first wheel spins, how many spins wheel? No more bounties, but up until a wheel spin is initiated, you can interrupt with a bounty.

• 58:36Speaker 01

  And then the budget, uh, there's, I don't think there's any solid decision on how the hell the audience's budget even can work or does work. But we're still working on that.

• 58:45Speaker 02

  I was just gonna read, read the Reddit and do the ones I thought were funny.

• 58:49Speaker 01

  I don't remember a budget.

• 58:51Speaker 02

  Remember we were like, we talked about this at $600 a month. We're going to allow the subreddit to pick things for us to spend money on. It's like 200 each or 600 total. And we're going to, they have, they have some sort of vote. They have to come around, coalesce around an idea enough that we feel like it's endorsed by the subreddit. And then we will spend the money on the thing.

• 59:14Speaker 03

  Okay. Why are we buying things? What are we doing with them?

• 59:17Speaker 02

  For, for, for fun.

• 59:18Speaker 01

  For fun, for to improve the podcast.

• 59:21Speaker 02

  We need a flair for that so that if, if we're looking for budget for money, budget stuff, we can just like go on the Reddit and be like the flair for spending money or whatever the hell it's called. Budget committee or something.

• 59:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. But the thing it was like, it was going to be something they're autonomous about. So it's like, if they vote, they only have so much budget and they have to vote on what the budget is spent on. So they all have to agree on what is spent on, I think, is generally the idea.

• 59:47Speaker 03

  All right. Fair enough. I'm sure I will forget and you guys will remind me next time.

• 59:50Speaker 02

  We'll just do it all. You just show up. It's fine. It's fine.

• 59:52Speaker 03

  And if you guys end up spending the money, I'll just send you the money that I don't have to have things in my house.

• 59:56Speaker 02

  We'll just take it out of your cup before it goes your way. It'll be fine.

• 59:59Speaker 03

  That's even easier. Don't just pay it.

• 1:00:00Speaker 02

  I'll just take out whatever amount I think is fair out of your.

• 1:00:07Speaker 02

  It'll be fine. It'll be fine.

• 1:00:08Speaker 01

  All in favor of taking it out of Wade's portion? Say aye.

• 1:00:11Speaker 02

  Aye.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  All right. It passed.

• 1:00:14Speaker 03

  Sam edited the fourth member.

• 1:00:16Speaker 04

  Aye.

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  Fuck.

• 1:00:19Speaker 03

  Good thing this isn't a constitution episode.

• 1:00:21Speaker 02

  It says somehow it's an edited of Wade saying aye.

• 1:00:24Speaker 03

  You know that video where, uh, the guys like breaking into someone's house and they're like, I'm going to find him. And the person's like hiding in the claws and they go red robin in the claws. You hear yum like, ha, gotcha. It'd be like that. But you guys be like, are you ready kids? So I'll go, aye, aye, fuck.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  That's it. We're done. Uh, there is, is there merch right now?

• 1:00:45Speaker 02

  There is something.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  If you were wondering why quantities are limited on these drops, it's people, people want it both ways, but it's because we're desperately scrambling to fulfill all the iron lung things of which there are, we're, it's like you can't even imagine, you can't even imagine, you can't even imagine. I'm gonna take my GoPro and I'm gonna go film what we've had to do to do it. It's and people were like, just get a third party logistics fulfillment company. I'm like, oh, it's so fucking easy, isn't it? I'll just instantly, I'll go next door to my third party logistics. And I was just like, knock, knock, hey, let's get a contract going and I'm gonna give you 50,000 fucking items. And you just, you get going, oh, what, you didn't have the system integrated before?

• 1:01:32Speaker 01

  And we gotta hand over a fucking, god damn it, alright. We're working on it.

• 1:01:36Speaker 02

  Hey, look, you guys are doing a great job. I got my iron lung stuff.

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, yeah, there's still like, uh, there's still like 15,000 orders left to fill.

• 1:01:43Speaker 02

  What's that, three days work?

• 1:01:45Speaker 03

  Those will be done like tomorrow, yeah.

• 1:01:47Speaker 01

  We, we didn't even have regular pickups from the post office and from the shipping companies. The, setting that up and giving them, getting them to even believe us that we had 5,000 orders that we needed to ship out. We tried to show up at the, the place with the orders. We got turned away. So it's like, you can't do this. What do you mean we can't do this?

• 1:02:09Speaker 03

  I just picture this really tiny post office, one guy working behind the car and you walk in, you're like, I have a 5,000 boxes I need shipped. They're like, okay, sure. And they look outside, you have like four semi trucks just side by side with all the bags open. You're like, the guy just pulls the window down, it's like we are closed for the day.

• 1:02:25Speaker 01

  Dude, you have no idea, man. You have no idea. You have no idea.

• 1:02:28Speaker 02

  And also, we don't order enough shirts just to make you mad.

• 1:02:32Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:02:33Speaker 02

  Gotcha.

• 1:02:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's true.

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  It's on purpose. Mark's just lying to cover it, but I think it's fun. No.

• 1:02:39Speaker 03

  Dude, even my family's got, they're like, are you intentionally trying to keep me from getting your merch? It's like, no.

• 1:02:45Speaker 02

  No, dude.

• 1:02:46Speaker 03

  Blame those assholes online. They keep buying it. It's not my fault.

• 1:02:48Speaker 01

  And it's also like, we, we did a restock of certain custom things and we said like, this'll, the long lead time to get this restock in. And then the whole world's shipping industry kind of exploded.

• 1:03:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:03Speaker 01

  So, so to, to like have an umbrella, like, no, I'm gonna complain. That's what this episode's all about. It's like talking about struggles, right? My struggles are just valid to your guys' struggles, even though it's after we've declared the winner and said the points.

• 1:03:15Speaker 02

  Sure, sure.

• 1:03:16Speaker 01

  Patty, who's been helping coordinate everything, has us really smart, you know, because we have manufacturers in America and not just China at all. It's like we have manufacturers in, in all kinds of different places so that we can have a redundancy if, if anything happens to one or if one can't meet the quality, things like that. We, we have, we source from a lot of different places and try to source responsibly from different places. And it's like, okay, we got a wide net. Doesn't help when the whole fucking world's shipping industry explodes. And, and it's only been a few months there. And I know that sounds like a long time, but when it working in business stuff like business takes a long time to get things going.

• 1:03:53Speaker 02

  Dude, it takes an agonizingly long time for anything to happen if you're doing like enterprise level, anything is fucking infuriating. When you're used to what we do and it's like you show up and either you do it or you pay this one person that you know to do the thing that you're, and then you're like, you're emailing chains and you're emailing groups and they're like, oh, forward this on to the right person and just a person you've never heard of. And you're like, oh, but they don't know this. Oh, no. This is like starting over, but we've been doing this for a week. It's great. It's lovely. Businesses are very efficient and great, and there's nothing that could be streamlined about this entire process. And I don't even know what all the shit you're dealing with. This is just my experience.

• 1:04:34Speaker 01

  Well, Mark's currently writing a new book. It's called All Work and No GoPro Makes Mark A Sad Boy. And it's just that line over and over again for 600 pages.

• 1:04:42Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. Weird, huh?

• 1:04:45Speaker 02

  A year from now, when Mark finally does get a GoPro, it's just gonna be him filming himself, sitting on a computer violently sending emails, trying to make one thing happen.

• 1:04:54Speaker 01

  We're ending the episode. Thank you so much for being a listener and or viewer of this episode. We are in entering our best season yet. Uh, I think probably hopefully, or most disastrous, which would be equally as cool. Anything but average is gonna be the theme of this season.

• 1:05:10Speaker 05

  Wait.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  No, what would I have to say?

• 1:05:14Speaker 03

  Oh, my quality of, my quality will be below average.

• 1:05:18Speaker 05

  All right. Okay. Good. Good. That's.

• 1:05:19Speaker 03

  Like Mark's hike.

• 1:05:22Speaker 02

  Oh, my fuck, he actually cut out.

• 1:05:25Speaker 03

  You actually cut.

• 1:05:27Speaker 01

  That was so fucking funny.

• 1:05:29Speaker 02

  That was so good.

• 1:05:31Speaker 01

  Whoa, that was great. I hope that got captured. Oh my god.

• 1:05:35Speaker 03

  All of my shit just crashed.

• 1:05:37Speaker 02

  I thought he just left. I didn't.

• 1:05:40Speaker 03

  My computer gave me an error. My GoXLR crashed.

• 1:05:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, you've got the, you've got like your webcam mic right now. It's all fucked.

• 1:05:48Speaker 01

  All right, we're gonna end it. That's what Wade gets. Thank you. Uh, follow the podcast, follow these guys. Podcast out before it blows up.