Bonus Episode: Extreme Music, Extremely Bad Things, and Always Doing the Right Thing

On this episode, Jake is stuck in Boston so guest host Dr. Lundy is talking about extreme music being blamed for extremely bad things, from Slipknot to Ozzy to Judas Priest. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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  Hey, Discos. Need a little more DisgraceLand in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to DisgraceLand: The Afterparty. Welcome to the DisgraceLand bonus episode, a little thing we like to call "The Afterparty." This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of DisgraceLand to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt.

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  Our mission: to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, the person that you expected to be here, behind the mic, talking to all of you beautiful people out there, the man, the myth, the legend, Jake Brennan. Jake is stuck, man. He's at the airport, he's at the terminal, he's hanging on the telephone, flight after flight canceled. And so, just like he is stuck in aviation purgatory, so too you are stuck with me today, the good doctor, Dr. Lundey, talking about extreme music and extreme moments from music history. Plus, we've got a brand-new spanking episode of this film should be played loud to talk about. All right, Discos?

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  Let's get into it. It's true, guys, this is a first. The after-party will not be hosted by Jake as usual today. This is not a drill. This ain't no prank. I'm not "fool in," as Def Leppard would say. I was absolutely telling you the truth earlier. Typically, the way this works is that Jake writes and records these after-party episodes on Wednesdays. He and I tape the exclusive all-access portion on Wednesdays as well, and then, of course, they're released into the wild on Thursdays. But Jake called me on Tuesday afternoon this week.

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  He's been traveling with his family, and he called me to say that his flight home that night had been canceled, and by the time his rescheduled flight got him back on the saddle the next day, he wouldn't have enough time to write and record the after-party. So, here we are. I'm like, you know, Elvis Costello when he used to guest host for Letterman when Letterman went on vacation. And I'm psyched to be here, actually. You know, I really am, talking with all of you Discos, because you guys are the best. You know that. And I know that a lot of you are already probably familiar with my voice, since I host the rap party over on our sister show, Hollywoodland. But all that said, thanks for bearing with us here. And you know, like Steve Winwood once said, "You gotta roll with it."

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  Speaking of "roll with it," that's a song that the band Slipknot would likely never cover. Well, I don't know. Never say never. Did you guys know that way back in the day, way back in the early days of Slipknot, they covered "The Humpty Dance" by Digital Underground? Hell, yeah, man. "My name is Humpty, pronounced with an umpty, how I'd like to funk thee." Slipknot, definitely one of the most extreme-sounding bands we've ever covered here in DisgraceLand. I was thinking about the other bands and artists that we've covered that are in a similar extreme-sounding zone. There's Mayhem and Burzum and all the bands at the center of the Norwegian black metal

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  scene that we covered way back in season one. There's Gigi Allen, we covered him in season two. Pantera and "The Murder of Dimebag Darrell." Metallica, early Metallica, which features in our story about the tragic death of their original bassist Cliff Burton. Pentagram, perhaps? But of course, in the case of Slipknot, their music has been accused of being so extreme that it led, in one case, to murder. Back in 2003, in San Bernardino, California, 22-year-old Terry Ray Taylor was brutally murdered by a 20-year-old and a 16-year-old who said that they had been listening to

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  Slipknot immediately before and after the murder, specifically the song "Disaster Piece", which was analyzed by authorities as this case went to trial. I'm not going to burn this story here. You can hear all about it in our new episode on Slipknot that just hit your feed this week on Tuesday. It's right behind this episode, if you haven't listened to it yet. And as I know you guys know, this, of course, isn't the first time that music, rock and roll, heavy metal, whatever you want to call it, has been put in the hot seat when something truly bad happens. We've covered a lot of these stories here, as you guys know, but here are some of the most disgraceful instances of music being blamed for extreme violence.

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  In 1985, two teenagers in Nevada entered a suicide pact. One died, the other one sustained severe injuries. Their families later sued Judas Priest, claiming that the band had purposely inserted the phrase "do it" into their song "Better By You, Better By Me." Also, in 1985, the family of a 19-year-old Indian California boy who had taken his own life the year prior sued Ozzy Osbourne, alleging that the tragedy happened after he listened to Ozzy's song "Suicide Solution." In 2000, the parents of a 15-year-old girl who had been murdered a few years prior by

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  a group of teenage boys sued Slayer, claiming that the band's music had inspired the killing. And then, there's all the stuff with, you know, the Beatles and Charles Manson, the Helter Skelter thing, the party line about Manson being inspired by the White Album to start a race war. There's AC/DC and the Night Stalker. Richard Ramirez, a fan of the band, and the AC/DC hat left behind at one of the crime scenes, and how the band was blamed in the press for inspiring that killing spree. Heavy music, extreme music, always had this stigma attached to it when I was growing up back in the 1980s. You didn't fuck with the dudes who listened to Priest or Slayer or early Metallica.

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  Okay? They wore jean jackets and they grew peach fuzz mustaches. You crossed the street when they were coming your way. They were these social outcasts who were into weird shit, extreme shit. Or so went the thinking. It's really fucked up to me, you know? Once I grew up and realized that the stigma, what I believed about extreme music people, for lack of a better term...

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  It was fabricated by so-called polite society, you know, and then the flames were fanned by the media to turn us against the kind of music that, again, so-called polite society found offensive. The same thing would happen with hip hop as well, though by that time, I was catching on and figuring this shit out, you know? It's also funny to get older and to discover that the metal community or the hardcore community, these subcultures of quote unquote, extreme music, were actually full of some of the nicest people, people who were not at all what they appeared to be to kids like me, extremely uncool kids who were blasting Huey Lewis and John Mellencamp and oldies

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  radio. I will fully own how uncool I was when I was a kid, by the way. But, you know, be thinking about all this, be thinking about extreme music and the stigma of these, you know, musical subcultures while you're listening to our new episode on Slipknot, which is in your feed right now. Coming up next, right after this after-party, is our rewind episode from our archive on Talking Heads. This was originally released on July 9th, 2024. This episode deals with New York City in the 1970s, when a psycho killer was on the loose. You don't want to miss this episode. Listen to it to find out all

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  about all the crazy shit that was happening in New York at this time. Not only the Son of Sam, who was terrorizing all five boroughs, but, you know, the blackouts, the trash strikes, the Yankees on a tear, and how all of it coincided with the birth of punk rock. Then, after the rewind, coming next Tuesday, we've got a brand new episode on John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Also, it's about River Phoenix and about how River Phoenix really died. John and River were friends. River Phoenix, if those of you don't know, was also a musician. He had a band. We covered River's story previously in Hollywoodland, but now this is the John Frusciante story, largely set during the making of Blood, Sugar,

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  Sex, Magic, and immediately thereafter. And then to bridge the gap here between, we've got Slipknot this week and then the Chili Peppers next week. Later, here in the exclusive portion of this episode, I'm going to dig into the history of the mansion, which is the house on Laurel Canyon Boulevard in Los Angeles that Rick Rubin purchased and turned into a recording studio, a studio and a house that is allegedly haunted, according to bands like Slipknot and the Chili Peppers who have recorded there. And I'm also going to talk about other supposedly haunted recording studios as well. These are some really freaky stories, guys, some that you probably have heard and others that you've never heard.

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  And again, I'm going to talk about that later in the exclusive portion. If you're not yet a member of Disgraceland All-Access, which is how you hear the exclusive portion of the after-party, just go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up today. Perks of membership include ad-free listening of all Disgraceland and Hollywoodland episodes, plus bonus material, like the exclusive section I'm talking about. And if you join on Patreon, you also get access to our monthly video podcast, This Film Should Be Played Loud, co-hosted by yours truly, and Jake Brennan, all about the greatest music and some of our favorite

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  movies of all time. Now, when you're listening next week to our brand new episode of Disgraceland on John Frusciante, be thinking about the 1990s, all right? Be thinking about your favorite songs from the 1990s and what made them resonate so much with you. Maybe it's a song like the Chili Peppers' "Under the Bridge," which is dominated so much by Frusciante's, like, iconic guitar part. Or maybe it's something much more underground than that. Let us know. Give us a call. Send us a text, 617-906-6638. You can also email us, [email protected],

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  or hit us up on the socials, @disgracelandpod, and you might hear your answer on next week's after-party. All right, discos, gonna take a real quick break here, but when we come back, I'm gonna have your voicemails, texts, DMs, and more, so don't nobody go nowhere.

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  Okay, so you want to be a rock and roll star, then listen how, hear what I say. I'm in the phone booth, it's the one across the hall, discos, 617-906-6638. That's how you get in touch and participate in the after-party. Real quick, before I get to your calls and your texts and stuff, I just wanted to mention, guys, this just came across the news as I was preparing to record this this morning, but word came down that Glenn Hansard, the great Irish singer-songwriter, Oscar-winning songwriter, has died at the age of 56. He was killed in a motorcycle crash in Dublin. Glenn Hansard was in this band called The

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  Frames, and then later in the swell season, and he co-starred in a great movie from 2007 called Once, about a couple of struggling musicians in Dublin. His song, Falling Slowly, from that film, won him an Academy Award. That was the first time I had ever heard of Glenn Hansard. I think a lot of us here in the States heard about him for the first time with that movie. Totally worth checking out if you haven't seen it. It felt very original and very fresh when it was released, and this is really shitty news, RIP to Glenn Hansard. All right, so as promised, we're gonna hear from you guys, and first, we're gonna go over to the 214. We got a call here from Dee, who has an awesome Slipknot story for us. Dee, take it away.

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  Hey Jake, it's Dee from Dallas. It's been a while, and I just listened to your Slipknot episode, and I had to call and tell you about my interaction with them. Want to say it was 2004 and Ausfest was in town. We didn't have the cash to go to the show, but we did have a plan to hopefully meet up with some of the bands after the show. We went to the clubhouse in Dallas, as you know, which was opened by Vinnie Paul and Dimebag Darrell from Pantera, as it was always the final destination of any reputable band. We got

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  there early and were watching people as they came in. There's a guy at the bar who was wearing an Exorcist t-shirt, was like, "Oh, that's a really fucking cool shirt. Let me go find out where he got it." And so I went to him and asked, and he said, "Oh, someone gave it to me backstage." And I said, "Backstage? What are you talking about?" And he said, "My name is Corey, and I'm in a band that you probably haven't heard of called Slipknot." That's right. "Are you fucking kidding me?" I said, "Please, don't go anywhere." I went, got my husband, came back, and we said, "We are huge fans. We love what you guys are

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  doing. You guys are just gonna be mega-stars." And he thanked us and was very, he was so sweet and so kind. And as he started to walk away, he turned back and gave us like the universal, like, "Hey, come with me." And we ended up at a table where later Twiggy Ramirez, Marilyn Manson, and what I can only assume are additional members of Slipknot, and also Vinnie Paul, and the biggest bottle of tequila I've ever seen in my life. We partied, had a great time. There were girls everywhere. We didn't have to worry about

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  esping. And as we're leaving, Vinnie Paul is at the door, and in his gravelly voice is like, "You guys aren't driving, right?" "No, we're not driving. We're, we're responsible. We're gonna get a cab." And he said, "No, you're not." He arranged for us a private town car to take us back to our room. And I just wanted to say a huge thank you to Corey. I always knew you guys were gonna make it and just be super mega-stars. I just want to thank you for one of the most memorable moments of my life. I've always been a fan

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  of metal. I've done VIP backstage, and that night was still, to this day, hands down, my best rock and roll experience. So, thank you, Corey, and I hope you get to hear this.

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  Dee, that is an, that is an incredible story. Thank you so much for calling in and sharing that with us all. And you're proving my point from earlier, the whole, like, stigma that we had back in the day of, like, extreme music makers and listeners, and how they're the nicest fucking people. You know what I mean? For those of you who know, if you know, you know, like, you're not surprised by this story at all. But, you know, 11-year-old me, back in 1986, or '07, or '08, or whatever, would have been very fucking surprised by this. So, incredible story. Thank you so much for calling in, Dee. Love that. Love

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  to hear from you. We got another voicemail here from the 617, from, let's see, Jake in the 617. Let's take a listen to this.

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  Hey, this is Jake in the 617. What's up? My first question is, what in the hell is going on? Where are you? Wait, by you, I mean me. Where am I? I'm in Boston. I am stuck here. And you might be like, why? How do you get stuck in Boston? Well, the weather, apparently, up there in the skies, has made for some tough flying, so our flight was canceled. Supposed to be back recording the after-party. I'm not. Zest, I know I said I was gonna be back Thursday. It's now looking like I'm gonna be back on Saturday, but guys, have no fear. All is well. Everybody's healthy. Everybody's got all the fingers and toes.

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  It's all good. Life could be much worse. It's not, thankfully. Hopefully, we get home safely. What's going on? What's, what's happening? What do you, what, I don't even know what you're talking about there. I guess we had the Slipknot episode this week. We had Dolly Parton last weekend. We've got John Frusciante coming up next week, which I'm very, very, very excited about. I can't wait for you guys to hear the story. It's not just the story of John Frusciante. It's the story of John and his pal River Phoenix and the idea that some people have that John had something to do with River's death and that he was more than something to do with it. The idea allegedly that he was directly responsible for River's death. So we get into all of that Johnny Depp's

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  Viper Room. That's all coming up next week. I can't wait to talk to you all about it. Having fun up here. Went to a Sox game. They're out of town now. They're out on the West Coast. And I went to see my dad play with his band the other night. Brought my kids. My eight year old had a Jay Giles T-shirt on. Some drunk dude went up to him, sat down right at our table. He was like, why do you like Jay Giles? Like very kind of ornery. And I gotta say, my son handled himself very well. He was prepared for the moment. He immediately responded. He said, well, I liked them because my three favorite songs are Must've Got Lost,

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  Angel in the Centerfold, and Free Spring. And then the guy pressed him even harder. He was like, how did you, how did you learn about Jay Giles? He said, well, I heard Angel in the Centerfold, and then I saw the cassette at a store and I bought it and I put it on. And I was like, I like this band. And then the guy offered to buy him a Corona. It was fantastic. Um, so yeah, we're having fun in Boston. I can't wait to get back though. And, uh, back in the chair, talking to all you guys into the microphone. Big thank you, Zeph, for holding it down in my absence. Lots of cool stuff coming your way, guys, very shortly. Again, can't wait to talk about that Frusciante episode with you. That's next week.

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  I thought that was you, Jake. Oh, sneaky, sneaky. Um, great to hear your voice. That sucks. You guys are stuck there until Saturday. Hopefully you don't meet any more ornery Jay Giles fans. Like, give the fucking kid a break, man, you know? He gave you his three favorite songs. Like, why do you have to press him even harder? And I'm also glad you got to see the Red Sox, though. I'd like to blow your cover there, uh, or out your little secret and let people know that you guys attended, I believe, the game in which they lost their win streak, right? They were on like a 15 game win streak and then you guys went and they lost. So, I don't know. Do with that what you will. But yeah, I'm

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  excited to hear this, uh, John Frusciante episode next week as well. You know, you mentioned River Phoenix, who was a big part of this episode. And I remember when I wrote the River Phoenix episode for Hollywood Land, you know, this subject came up about Frusciante and, and River's death and stuff. And I just didn't want to, I didn't even want to touch it with a 10 foot pole. So, uh, I may have alluded to it at some point in the episode, but I didn't really get into it. But of course, leave it to Jake to figure out a, uh, a really thoughtful, creative way to get into this, to talk about it, to, to face it head on and to come out at the end with some, some conclusions. So anyways, good to hear from your brother and, uh, looking forward to having you, uh, back in the saddle here with us again soon. Barring any more crazy ass Boston weather, which I think it's sunny

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  there. I'm not really sure what the issue is with the weather. Jake Brennan will return to the after party next week. Meanwhile, let's go on to some other text messages we've got here. 617-906-6638 is how you get in touch. Uh, we got a text here from the 203 and it reads, hi Jake and Zeph. This is Melissa from the 203. I heard you mention that there will be a Smashing Pumpkins episode coming up. I will of course listen, but I have never been into those guys. I went to Lollapalooza in 1994 with my friend Walter. The Beastie Boys played second to last and Smashing Pumpkins were the headliners. Five minutes into Smashing Pumpkins, Walter and I looked at each other and said, let's get

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  out of here. That festival was amazing back then, but I still cannot understand how the Smashing Pumpkins were the headliners over the Beastie Boys. Fun fact, I heard on one of those MTV shows that the name for Hello Nasty, which is a Beastie Boys record, came from a receptionist answering the phone and saying, hello nasty. The business was part of their production or management team and the full name had the word nasty in it. Thanks for all the pods. Rock-a-rola. Melissa, great, great message here. Lots to get into here. First of all, yes, Hello Nasty, the Beastie Boys record was, uh, named after their publicity. Their PR firm called Nasty Little Man and they would answer the, people would answer

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  the phone, hello nasty. And that's, and that's where that, that phrase came from. When I was a music critic in my former life, um, worked with Nasty Little Man a lot. They represented a lot of really, really big, great artists like the Beasties and, and Beck and, uh, Paul McCartney and Foo Fighters and all the, all the heavy hitters were with Nasty Little Man, it seemed. And also the guy that ran that company was named Steve Martin, but it wasn't the Steve Martin. It was Nasty Little Man's Steve Martin. Anyways, Smashing Pumpkins headlining Lollapalooza. I think that there was some sort of shenanigans there with how they got to headline Lollapalooza. I think Nirvana had pulled out and then they went in the top slot. Um, and looking back, it's, you go, why, why would Smashing Pumpkins

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  be there? I agree with you, over the Beastie Boys, just because the Beastie Boys seemed to have so much more lasting cultural resonance. But remember at the time, this is 94, this is the year that Kurt Cobain died. The Smashing Pumpkins were sort of like filling the void, the Nirvana void at the time, as like the biggest rock band on the planet. I mean, Si Me's Dream and Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness were fucking huge records. Um, we get into that in the episode that we have coming out on them. So anyways, there's a little, uh, behind the scenes there on Nasty Little Man and the Pumpkins. Thanks for the message, Melissa. 617-906-6638. We've got a text here from the 763. We're, Jake was

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  talking about summer reading, watching and, uh, listening recommendations last week. So the 763 text in, good evening Jake. Summer recommendations for books. I have joined the Dungeon Crawler Carl Bandwagon. Great read. Really easy to get into, more so if you've ever played video games. For movies, I just re-watched Be Kind Rewind with Jack Black and Mos Def. Very funny. Doesn't take itself too seriously. For music, I've been listening to a lot of live Bruce Springsteen. Just listened to his show from the Born to Run Tour in New Jersey in 1985. Great show, great music, especially for July 4th. Thanks for all you do.

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  Well, thank you very much, 763, for the recommendations. I remember liking Be Kind Rewind, uh, when that came out. That's a Michelle Gondry film. I think that's the one he made right after Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. You know, you can't go wrong with Bruce circa 1985. Um, the guy was just, uh, a machine. Even the clips now of Bruce and the East Street Band playing look amazing. I saw them. The one time I ever saw them was 1999, um, when I think the, I think everybody was back in the fold, like Little Steven and Clarence and like, uh, it was all the original members of the East Street Band were back together for the first time in a little bit, I think. It was after like Bruce's, a couple of solo

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  records he had done there or whatever. And, uh, I just remember it was at the Garden in Boston and I just remember the seating was completely surrounded the stage. It filled up the entire garden and Bruce, like throughout the show would turn so that he would face all four sides of the, of the garden so that everybody, so, you know, you weren't looking at Bruce's back the whole time. It was a cool thing. He was, uh, he was really, uh, giving it, giving it up for the fans there. It was great. Got a text here from 304 that says, were you guys talking about Edward Hopper's New York interior? Why, yes, 304. That is the painting that, uh, Jake and I were talking about in one of the shows last week. And Jake

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  had a controversial take on that painting. A little bit more later in this episode about that. Okay. Everybody else out there, uh, be like your fellow discos here, uh, that we just heard from and give us a call or send us a text at 617-906-6638. Uh, maybe give me your answer to next week's question of the week, which is, when you're listening to the new Disgrace Line episode on John Frusciante, be thinking about the 1990s. What's your favorite song from the 90s? Uh, favorite songs from the 90s? What made them resonate so much? 617-906-6638. All right, guys, I'm going to take another quick break here, but when we come back, I'm going to get into your emails and much more. So stay

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  tuned.

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  All right, discos, we are back in the after-party. Dr. Lundy here, holding it down today while Jake Brennan is, in parts unknown. Actually, we know where he is. He's in Boston. He's in the greater Boston area. Don't worry, he's safe. Someone's giving him water and they've left the windows cracked and Steely Dan is on the stereo. So he's fine. Don't worry about it. If you want to get in touch with us here, guys, 617-906-6638 is the number. Or you can always email [email protected] to connect with us and your fellow discos. Just like our guy Delbert here, who wrote an email to us with the subject line, "Dolly."

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  It reads, "Just want to throw out some love. The Dolly Parton episode was an amazing testament to your storytelling. You finally smoked the Pentagram episode ending. From the intro expressing what anyone growing up in the eighties or nineties thought of Dolly, to the understanding we have now, the background record scratches and the gradual guitar strumming as the story progresses. Man, just wanted to tell you that this new chapter of disgraceland is something to experience. Thanks for all you do and the guys at Double Elvis do. Rock-a-rola." Thanks so much, Delbert. That means so much because as you alluded to there, you know, we're always evolving the way that we, always evolving, always iterating how we do what we do. The creative part of our job, the editorial part of our job.

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  And we've been slowly sort of massaging, you know, the structure of our episodes, how we tell these stories, partly because as will all become clear soon, we're working on some new stuff and it's going to, it's going to fit into what this new stuff that we're working on. But I'm glad that it's landing and I'm glad you enjoyed this episode in particular, not to toot my own horn or anything, but I wrote the Dolly Parton episode and I was really happy with it and I'm glad that it resonated with you. Delbert, thank you for writing in and letting us know. All right, got another email here from Bill and the subject line is art/Edward Hopper/covers. And it reads, "Hey Jake, Bill from the 215 here.

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  You guys were so all over the place on that last rap party and it was great. I'm a working artist in Philadelphia. That's how I make my living. I know you know how hard that can be sometimes and I appreciate your grind as a musician and media person. Anyway, my ears perked up when you referenced the Hopper painting that featured on your screen at home. Am I right that it's called New York Interior? Hopper was such a voyeur in his painting and I think you're on the right track in your assessment of what's happening. There seems to be a man's hat behind her, giving us a clue that she has company. The front of her dress is hyped up, but no other evidence of a second party other than the things around her. I'm attaching a pic of the painting. If it's not the one, even better, let's see that. Music, movies, stories and art are basically my whole life.

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  So thanks to you and the good doctor for helping me to scratch those itches. Rock-a-rola." And then Bill followed up with, "We apparently may have our minds in the gutter, though. Some research says she's sewing a white garment with that outstretched arm raised with a needle. Who's to say?" Thanks, Bill. Thank you for your investigation into this. Guys, if you missed this last week, Jake was talking about, he's got this thing on his TV where when he's not watching TV, it's, it displays a piece of art. And he has this Edward Hopper painting up that we've discovered is called New York Interior of a, of a woman and she's, we're looking at her from behind and Jake thinks that she's getting it on in this painting, that there's some like mystery man beneath her there.

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  It was a very controversial take. It was a take that I did not believe, although I did not believe it. And then he sent me the, a text of the picture after we recorded the episode. That was like, now I can't unsee it. And probably just because our minds are in the gutter, as, as Bill alluded to. Bill, appreciate the, again, the investigation here and appreciate you being an artist. I do know how hard that can be and appreciate your grind there, brother. Guys, we're also on Patreon in the chat, not just on texts or voicemail or emails or the social, you know, we're, we're talking always over there about recommendations. This week, if you guys heard the rap party over in the Hollywoodland podcast, that was

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  yesterday, I had Matt on, Matt Bowden, our head of production here at Double Elvis with Jake being out of town. Matt and I were talking about biopics, everything from the Marilyn Monroe biopic Blonde to this one called Born to be Blue about Chet Baker starring Ethan Hawke. Because over in Hollywoodland, the feed this week, we have our part one episode from the archive on Marilyn Monroe. And I was thinking about, you know, I had recently watched the Blonde biopic and I was just thinking about biopics in general. That prompted the question to all of you guys over there. What is your favorite Marilyn Monroe film? I want to know. So again, 617-906-6638, [email protected] or over in Patreon.

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  Let me know what your favorite film is. I really, really, really like Niagara, which is a movie that we're going to cover in the screening room in the Hollywoodland feed tomorrow on Friday. But this weekend, we're all going to be watching River of No Return, which is the 1954 Otto Preminger film starring Marilyn Monroe and Robert Mitchum. Believe it was the only time those two performed together. And I'm going to talk about it next week, in next Friday's screening room. So make sure you're subscribed to Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, guys, as promised, I'm going to talk about The Mansion and other haunted recording studios coming up in the exclusive section of this episode right after this.

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  Again, go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up and listen and to unlock more exclusive content like this, plus ad-free listening. All right, guys, we'll be right back after this.

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  All right, Dr. Lundy here with you guys in the hot seat one last time for one last block of this after-party. Listen, it's been a pleasure guest hosting the after-party here today. I hope you guys have had a good time and I wish, I wish our guy Jake Brennan, you know, an unexpected few more days in Boston. Sorry to hear that you're stuck, but there are worse places to be. Looking forward to having you back here with us very soon. Just wanted to say, guys, we mentioned earlier, episodes on Judas Priest, Ozzy Osbourne and Metallica in this episode. And of course, we have episodes on all of those artists in our archive of over 250 artists. Matt will grab the episode info on these subjects and put them in the show notes so that you can easily navigate to hear those stories. So now I guess we're at the recap time, right? Here we go. What's recap?

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  Strap in. Number one, this week, our new episode is out on Slipknot. Number two, in the rewind slot this week, our classic episode on Talking Heads. Number three, next week, coming up, our next new episode on Tuesday is all about John Fraschante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers and River Phoenix. Number four, Zeth Hey, That's Me, gives you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodland. So make sure you are subscribed and listen every week, usually every week, not this week, but every week. Jake and I give you guys music and movie recommendations there in the rap party as well. Number five, our latest, this film should be played loud video podcast episode on Do the Right Thing is available right now.

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  And our next episode on Licorice Pizza is coming August 26. Go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become an all-access member and unlock exclusive content just like this, along with ad-free listening. Number six, hit us up, 617-906-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling, texting with your answers to this week's question of the week, or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget, discos, this isn't just content, it's a community, a community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace.

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  All right, back on May 23rd, 2003, two California teenagers committed a brutal murder and this is what America was listening to that day, according to the Billboard charts. Number one, Get Busy by Sean Paul. Last week, one, peak position, one, weeks on chart, 13. Number two, 21 Questions, 50 Cent featuring Nate Dogg. Last week, four, peak position, two, weeks on chart, nine. Number three, Ignition by R. Kelly. Last week, three, peak position, two, weeks on chart, 28. Number four, In the Club, 50 Cent.

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  Last week, two, peak position, one, weeks on chart, 19. Number five, Can't Let You Go, fabulous, featuring Mike Short.

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