Pod Insights Dear Hank & John 447: Everything Is Over About this episode What do you do with a check once it’s deposited? How does Vitamin D work? When someone compliments my necklace, is there a concise way of saying it’s cremation jewelry and contains the ashes of my grandpas (plural)? What should I do in my free time? How do glow in the dark stickers work? What’s up with teeth? …Hank and John Green have answers!
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0:01 Hank Green? You're listening to a Complexly podcast.
0:09 Hank Green? Hello and welcome to Dear Hank and John.
0:12 John Green? Or as I prefer to think of it, Dear John and Hank.
0:14 Hank Green? It's a podcast where two brothers try to answer your questions, give you dubious advice, and bring you all the week's news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon. John?
0:22 John Green? Yeah.
0:22 Hank Green? When Buzz Aldrin walked on the moon, he said, "I am Buzz Aldrin, first man to walk on the moon, kneel before me."
0:32 John Green? Well, second man to walk on the moon, kneel before me.
0:36 Hank Green? Well, yeah, but yeah, just the first aside from kneel before me.
0:40 John Green? I think, I don't like to workshop your jokes, but I think that it's got, I think it's two revisions away from being a really good dad joke.
0:47 Hank Green? It's there, it's almost there, okay.
0:49 John Green? Speaking of revisions, I am deep, deep in edits for Hollywood Ending, my new novel that comes out September 22nd, and I do not have time to make this podcast, but I'm going to, out of respect for you and our listeners, and especially out of respect for one particular listener, who I want to mention here at the top of the podcast. You know, Hank, we have a top, top podcast for teens, top podcast for elderly people, of course, a hit exercise podcast and a hit sleep podcast, but did you know that we have a hit migraine podcast, according to Tiffany, who writes, "Dear John and Hank, since y'all have been discussing the different types of hit podcasts you are, I wanted to let you know that you're my migraine podcast. Treating my migraines usually involves lying down in a dark room for a while, but I don't want to sleep because it'll totally screw up my sleep schedule.
1:34 John Green? Enter Dear Hank and John. Y'all hit on just the right balance of silly and serious." Well, thank you, Tiffany. Sorry about your migraine.
1:40 Hank Green? Sorry about your migraine, and I'm glad that we don't do Million Dollar Idea anymore. That probably wouldn't help.
1:45 John Green? No, it's too loud.
1:47 Hank Green? It's too loud of a segment.
1:48 John Green? Oh, God, the editing is overwhelming, Hank. It's so, it requires such intense concentration.
1:56 Hank Green? Oh, interesting, because right now in my expert reviews, it's really not that way. It's just like scroll, scroll, they have a comment, I read the comment, I change a line. Scroll, scroll, they have a comment, I read the comment, I change a line. It's great. It's like the best thing that I've ever done in the writing experience, because it's just like, you, you mess this up, fix it. And I'm like, okay. I, I just feel like I'm being directed by experts to do something I know how to do.
2:25 John Green? I remember that wonderful feeling when Everything is Tuberculosis was being fact-checked. This is different because a novel, everything has to fit together just so. It's like a thousand-piece puzzle. And every time you move a piece, you have to move a bunch of other pieces. And some of those pieces might have been 200 pages ago.
2:45 Hank Green? Yeah.
2:46 John Green? And so the, that's the kind of concentration it requires is like, you have to remember, not just is it Tuesday, but also what color is this person's hair and what's their name? And what do they want out of life? And are they satisfied with the role that they're playing in my story?
3:03 Hank Green? Would they, would they say these words? Would they make this choice? Would they?
3:07 John Green? Yeah.
3:07 Hank Green? How would they react to this situation? And, oh, man.
3:10 John Green? Yeah. And it's dual, it's dual point of views. So making sure that the point of views not just are different in terms of voice, but that, you know, they don't, they don't make similar observations or make them in the same way, things like that. It's exhausting. It's fun. I mean, look, look, this is child's play. I should not complain about my child's play job, but it's, it just requires focus.
3:37 Hank Green? You're feeling it.
3:38 John Green? I'm feeling it.
3:38 Hank Green? I can feel you feeling it. I, I remember doing multiple points of view and at the end of it being like, I shouldn't say this, but boy, these people are all quite similar to each other.
3:49 John Green? Yeah. I mean, there's only two of them, so it's a little easier to make them different from each other.
3:53 Hank Green? Yeah, it was easy to make the space alien different. That was the big, that was easy. Everybody else was all humans. And I only, I only really know one of those close up.
4:02 John Green? I wish I had a space alien. Yeah. Yeah. That is one of the challenges of writing a novel or indeed participating in any kind of artistic endeavor is that it's inherently an attempt to get out of the prison of oneself, which of course one cannot actually do.
4:16 Hank Green? Preach.
4:19 John Green? All right, Hank, let's answer some questions from our listeners. But full disclosure, this entire time we're recording, I'm going to be thinking about my novel. The other day, Sarah, it was like Sunday, and Sarah was like, you're thinking about the story, aren't you? And I was like, I'm never not thinking about the story, just so you know. All right. M writes, Dear John and Hank, I just got a tax refund for $1.44 from the US government in the form of a check.
4:39 Hank Green? A gross pennies.
4:41 John Green? A gross of pennies, that's right. If they still made them, which they don't. While I contemplate what to do with my newfound wealth, what should I do with the check after it's deposited? I deposit all my checks with the bank app, and so it feels wrong to throw them away. But like, I'm not going to buy a shredder. Taxes and tyrannosaurs, M.
4:59 Hank Green? What are you, I don't, I, now I'm worried about what I'm doing with my checks I don't want to say.
5:04 John Green? Oh, I keep them.
5:06 Hank Green? You keep them in like a bag?
5:08 John Green? Basically. I should probably shred them.
5:11 Hank Green? You got like a, like a check bag? Is it like a, is it a cloth bag with a big dollar sign on the side of it?
5:18 John Green? Yes, I'm Rich Uncle Pennybags from the board game Monopoly.
5:25 Hank Green? Yeah. Throw it over your shoulder, then when you're going camping, you bring it with you and toss it on the fire.
5:31 John Green? Yeah, once a year, I ceremoniously burn the checks. That's how I deal with it, but everybody's got a different way.
5:38 Hank Green? I write deposited really big on the front of it, and then I rip it up and put it in the trash.
5:43 John Green? Oh, that's good. I like that. That's fine. I think that's fine. That's like having a shredder.
5:48 Hank Green? I should, no, no, no, take this out, because I feel like people can figure out my account numbers. What should I be doing?
5:55 John Green? Not if you're, not if you do a good job tearing it up, but also, people shouldn't be going through your trash, Hank.
6:02 Hank Green? Well.
6:03 John Green? If people are going through your trash, we've got another problem.
6:06 Hank Green? This didn't used to be a problem, because you used to deposit the checks and they'd be in the bank.
6:11 John Green? Yeah.
6:12 Hank Green? You'd bring them to the bank.
6:13 John Green? The bank would have to deal with it.
6:14 Hank Green? And they'd have, now I have the check. Okay, what should I do with my checks after? Stamp it with deposited, write deposited on it in ink or shred it? Okay, I'm doing good. I'm doing the right thing.
6:26 John Green? Yeah, you're fine, Hank. I'm not worried about you. I am, however, worried about M, who only got a buck 44 from the federal government for a tax refund.
6:37 John Green? Although I guess that means you paid like approximately the right amount of taxes. So in that sense, it's a good, good outcome.
6:43 Hank Green? Apparently you should keep the check until it clears because you don't want to lose one gross of pennies.
6:49 John Green? That's right. Well, I keep the check until it clears and then I'm just like, ah, why throw away these checks? And then I wait a year and I put them in my rich uncle Penny Bag's bag and I burn them. I like that idea. That's my way. Everybody's got a different way, Em.
7:01 Hank Green? Yeah, you know, paper's valuable. So maybe, wouldn't it be like the baller move to have one of your bathrooms just wallpapered in your checks?
7:09 John Green? I did once frame a check in the old days when you could, when framing a check was included, basically not depositing it. I received an 87 cent check from the Screen Actors Guild for my cut scene from The Fault in Our Stars and I framed that.
7:27 Hank Green? I, yeah, I receive, I receive a fair amount of royalty checks now that I've like done things.
7:32 John Green? Mr. Fancy Pants over here with his fair amount of royalty checks.
7:37 Hank Green? And this would be a great thing to wallpaper your bathroom with because they're all for like $2. It's just, it's just sort of a hilarious, you know, just deposit your $2 and then just got like, you gotta show what everybody would, I bet like TV writers, oh my God, they gotta be getting 200 checks and they still come in checks. Like, nobody will do direct deposit.
8:00 John Green? They still come in checks.
8:01 Hank Green? Dropout does direct deposit.
8:03 John Green? Now SAG only sends you, they send you a royalty statement and you only get money if it's over a dollar. So like, it's like 14 cents, I think, for every, every, every six months or so is what I make from The Fault in Our Stars movie that I got cut from because I'm in the DVD extras.
8:21 Hank Green? Yep.
8:21 John Green? And that means that it takes like X number of years before I get to a dollar and they send me a dollar.
8:27 Hank Green? For all those people still buying DVDs, John, we should get back into DVDs.
8:31 John Green? Oh yeah, physical media should make a return.
8:34 Hank Green? What's the new DVD, though? Maybe there's a thing that's like a DVD, but it's not a DVD.
8:38 John Green? A LaserDisc.
8:40 Hank Green? It's even bigger than a DVD.
8:42 John Green? An 8-track.
8:43 Hank Green? It's even bigger than a LaserDisc.
8:46 John Green? Yeah.
8:47 Hank Green? Or it's... Hmm. I want it, what I, what I want it to be is like a crystal. I want it to be like a little diamond that I buy and it's like in a, on like a ring pop situation.
9:00 John Green? Yep.
9:01 Hank Green? We gotta figure out how to get physical media really bizarre. We need to get bizarre physical media.
9:07 John Green? And you actually hallucinate the film?
9:09 Hank Green? Yes.
9:10 John Green? So you like get, get the Twilight ring pop and you lick the Twilight ring pop and you see all of Twilight, but it comes to you like a dream.
9:16 Hank Green? People in the future will be like, can you believe that they watch these things on screens instead of just licking their ring pops?
9:23 John Green? Having, having, having the movie play behind their eyelids whether they want it or not.
9:29 Hank Green? You can't, you can't stop.
9:31 John Green? Once, once you lick that ring pop, you will be watching Twilight.
9:35 Hank Green? Yeah. You're being supervised by a robot to make sure you don't injure yourself pretending to be a spider monkey.
9:42 John Green? Have you seen Twilight? Because based on that particular detail, I feel like you haven't.
9:47 Hank Green? I have. The, the piece that sticks out the most to me is when Edward says to Bella, hold on tight spider monkey, which is not like a name he has for her. He says it once.
9:58 John Green? Yeah. But there's no spider monkeys in the movie. It's just a line of dialogue.
10:03 Hank Green? No, she's pretending to be a spider monkey by holding on to him like a spider monkey.
10:08 John Green? Yeah.
10:09 Hank Green? And that's what I would do. I would pretend to hold on to Edward and then we would careen through the canopy of the Pacific Northwest.
10:16 John Green? Oh, so you're imagining that it would be sort of a first person film from Bella's perspective?
10:22 Hank Green? Oh, heck yes. And also it would be far more detailed.
10:27 John Green? Yeah.
10:29 Hank Green? They would have way, and if there'd be some, some real choice scenes added.
10:33 John Green? Well, there, would there still be all those pregnant pauses where they're just staring at each other? That's my favorite part of the movie. Somebody cut together all the pregnant pauses and it's like 14 minutes long.
10:41 Hank Green? And then in the third movie, there's actual pregnant pauses.
10:44 John Green? Heyo.
10:45 Hank Green? Which would be unpleasant to live through, but you know, we all gotta know.
10:49 John Green? Yeah. I, I was gonna say in the third movie, you're going to get pregnant and not just pregnant, but pregnant with a special kind of baby.
10:57 Hank Green? Special kind of baby that's gonna kill you if you, let's not spoil it. I actually haven't seen the third movie. I just know, I just know these things.
11:07 John Green? Yeah, I mean, I think that's a problem. This is one of my big issues is that like way more people have opinions on books like Twilight and the Fault in Our Stars than have actually read those books. We're seeing this a little bit now with, um, uh, there's always like some kind of like drama in the world of publishing, but the books that generate all the drama don't necessarily sell that well. It's just like a vehicle for discourse.
11:31 Hank Green? Yeah.
11:32 John Green? And then people have the discourse and the book doesn't actually get read.
11:37 Hank Green? What a terrible thing to have like a Fault in Our Stars level discourse without Fault in Our Stars level sales.
11:44 John Green? Totally.
11:45 Hank Green? Would be like a deep misery.
11:48 John Green? Because like, uh, there was a lot of discourse around the Fault in Our Stars, some of which I found annoying, but at, at least 30 million people bought that book.
11:57 Hank Green? Yeah. Which nobody gets.
12:00 John Green? These days, if you're part of the discourse, that doesn't mean that you're selling even 10,000 copies. It just means that like-
12:05 Hank Green? No, no.
12:06 John Green? -the discourse has picked you up for whatever reason. And usually when the discourse picks you up, it's to be dismissive of you or your work. And therefore you don't have to read it because you can just have an opinion without reading.
12:15 Hank Green? Yeah. Uh huh.
12:18 John Green? Oh, boy.
12:19 Hank Green? But you can watch somebody have their opinion about what they read.
12:23 John Green? Anyway, you do want to read Hollywood Ending, the new book from John Green coming out in, uh, September. It's John's first book in nine years, not novel, first novel in nine years.
12:32 Hank Green? He's been doing it this whole time. He's been writing books that weren't Hollywood Ending and then giving up on them this whole time.
12:40 John Green? Well, I also wrote a lot of Hollywood Ending, um, in the period when I was also writing other books that I gave up on.
12:46 Hank Green? What was the, Ian, the initial, uh, title slash frame of Hollywood Ending?
12:50 John Green? The Junket.
12:52 Hank Green? Yeah, okay.
12:53 John Green? It was called The Junket and it was entirely about the- Lead up to the premiere, not about the movie at all. And I've decided that was so, so joyless that I needed, I needed some movie in there.
13:07 Hank Green? As they, as the kids say these days, I don't think I would suck on that Ring Pop.
13:14 Hank Green? All right, John, this next question comes from June, who asks, Dear Hank and John, I recently got my blood tested and my doctor told me I had vitamin D deficiency. I'm from California. I moved to Washington state last year. Thus I have not seen the sun in many weeks. And this got me wondering how vitamin D works? How is it that I go into the sun and it hits my skin and the levels of the vitamin in my blood go up? The sunniest month, June. Oh, that's lovely.
13:36 John Green? I've also been wondering this Hank, because I have to take a vitamin D supplement now.
13:40 Hank Green? Yeah, me too.
13:42 John Green? But I would rather just get five minutes of sunshine per day, which seems to be enough.
13:47 Hank Green? I have, I don't know what the actual timing is. I did not look that up, but I did look up the mechanism.
13:52 John Green? All right, walk, walk me through the mechanism. How does my skin turn sunlight into a vitamin that lives in my blood?
14:01 Hank Green? So there is already a molecule in your blood. It's called seven dehydrocholesterol.
14:07 John Green? God, they gotta work on these names.
14:10 Hank Green? I mean, it says what it is. I promise. And UVB, so this is specific wavelengths of UV light, can turn that into vitamin D3. So the sun does not like eject you with vitamin D. It is triggering a chemical reaction in your skin that makes this precursor form of vitamin D. And then the vitamin D3 goes into your bloodstream, then goes to your liver, and there it is converted into 25 hydroxy vitamin D. And that's the main circulating form of vitamin D, though there are like others. But when you take vitamin D, you're usually taking one of, one of these various molecules. I think a lot of times you take the precursor and then it just gets converted. The, and, and it's weird. So this is a strange
14:53 Hank Green? thing. Most animals that you run into don't do this. Like, imagine a cat, for example. When does the sun touch a cat?
15:02 John Green? Never.
15:02 Hank Green? They're covered in hair. So they get their vitamin D. Some animals get their vitamin D from eating things that make vitamin D and some animals make it themselves. So we have lost the ability to make vitamin D, but we could, like, we, you know, we couldn't. You can't, but like, there's no physiological reason, there's no like chemical reason why a body can't make vitamin D. And indeed, many animals do make vitamin D, but we don't. And so we, because it, it happens naturally when you're out in the sun and all of our ancestors spent enough time in the sun that we got it. But now, we're always wearing clothes, we're always inside, we're protecting ourselves from the harmful effects of the sun, which are many. And then we don't get this. And so we have to take a supplement,
15:47 Hank Green? which is, I think, probably a pretty good trade off.
15:49 John Green? I, so I was never a believer in supplements. And my doctor was like, you have low vitamin D. And I was like, well, just get out in the sun more. And she was like, no, you won't. I know you like, you're an inside cat.
15:59 Hank Green? Yeah.
16:00 John Green? And so she was right. And eventually I was like, well, I'll take the vitamin D supplement. But my vitamin D is not going to go up because supplements are BS. And she was like, well, your vitamin D will go up because supplements are BS if you don't have low vitamin D, but you do. I also have low vitamin B12. And I started taking them and it worked.
16:20 Hank Green? You felt better?
16:22 John Green? Well, I don't know if I felt better, but my numbers went up. The lab, the lab says that I'm fine.
16:27 Hank Green? I have, I have had to fight to get my vitamin D levels up because I'm not really, I'm, I have not been good at taking the pills every day. But, but interestingly, vitamin D, there's like debate over whether it's technically a vitamin, which I think is very weird.
16:43 John Green? What is it instead?
16:44 Hank Green? It might be, it's like, kind of more like a hormone. So, so like vitamin C, for example, is like very quintessential vitamin. It is a necessary chemical to make collagen, I think, which is why when you get scurvy, what's happening is all of your collagen is breaking down because you can't repair or create new collagen. I think that this is right. I have, this is like information that I have last looked at, like more than a month ago. So fact check me. But, but I think vitamin D is more like sort of just a carrier of information and it like activates certain things in certain places. It like maybe fills more of a hormonal role than like a, like a catalytic role. It's not like used as much in the process of chemical reactions. It is more
17:30 Hank Green? carrying, it is more like a delivery mechanism for information. Throughout the body.
17:35 John Green? I, after your summary of that, have no idea what a vitamin is. And not only that, I don't want to learn. I don't, there's some things I don't want to be curious about, some things I'm never going to know or have an opinion about. And now one of them is whether vitamin D is in fact a vitamin. I'm never going to have an opinion about that.
17:51 Hank Green? You probably shouldn't.
17:53 John Green? I don't, I shouldn't, I shouldn't. It's like.
17:55 Hank Green? I shouldn't. It doesn't mean it's not important.
17:59 John Green? No, it means that I trust other people to have better opinions than I ever will. I feel the same way about the Super Mario Odyssey movie. It's not that I have, it's not that I, I don't think that it's important to have opinions on the Super Mario Odyssey movie. It's just that I in particular, don't want to have those opinions. I don't trust myself. I don't feel like I'm invested enough in the Super Mario universe in order to have a really deeply informed opinion. And also, if I have an opinion on every single thing, then I don't, then I don't do a good job of digging deep. Like, I have a lot of opinions about tuberculosis, but that's because I'm deeply informed about tuberculosis. I don't want to have an opinion on whether vitamin D is a vitamin.
18:42 Hank Green? I gotta tell you, as you've been talking, I've been more and more convinced that vitamin D isn't a vitamin in particular, because the idea of a vitamin is that it's a thing that your body needs to function normally, that you can't get naturally. And you can get it, well, like that you, that you have to consume in order to get it into your body. But you don't consume vitamin D. Your body does kind of make it.
19:06 John Green? No, you consume sunshine.
19:08 Hank Green? The fact that it requires UVB to me is like, well, yeah, but like, all of my molecules require that I breathe oxygen.
19:15 John Green? All right.
19:15 Hank Green? Like, they require external outputs, but this isn't, it's not that chemical that's the external output.
19:21 John Green? You're so passionate about this, I find myself coming to an opinion, and it's the opinion opposite yours. I take back my previous perspective that I don't have opinions. Instead, I do want to participate in vitamin D discourse. Not only that, I want to take the provocative take that you are consuming something when you take in vitamin D, and the thing that you're consuming is sunshine. And that isn't the same thing as consuming oxygen, although that is also a form of consumption, because sunshine is external to our atmosphere. It's essential, but it's external. In the same way that like consuming broccoli to get your vitamin A is essential, but external.
20:06 Hank Green? All right. I disagree, but I still respect you.
20:08 John Green? No, the whole Hank, that's not how fighting on the internet works. You got mad. I got mad and now you get more mad. You don't deescalate.
20:20 Hank Green? I disagree with you and I no longer want to be your brother.
20:24 John Green? There you go. End of the podcast. Cancel the whole affair.
20:30 Hank Green? Cancel the whole affair. Everything's over, everybody. We're done. We're done.
20:34 John Green? It reminds me that today's podcast is brought to you by Dear Hank and John. Dear Hank and John, 2016 to 2026, R I P.
20:41 Hank Green? This podcast is also brought to you by one gross of pennies. One gross of pennies. Good luck. From the government.
20:50 John Green? Today's podcast is also brought to you by Rich Uncle Pennybags. Rich Uncle Pennybags, not just the star of Monopoly, also the way that John deals with his deposited checks.
20:58 Hank Green? And this podcast is brought to you by Hollywood Ending. You could buy it now or you can wait for it to come out on Ring Pop.
21:04 John Green? No, no, no, you can't wait. You gotta buy it now. Illusion of scarcity. There's only so many signed copies in the world.
21:10 Hank Green? Oh, can you order it now? Is it orderable now?
21:13 John Green? Yeah.
21:14 Hank Green? Oh, it's orderable now.
21:16 John Green? Yeah. Wherever you get books.
21:18 Hank Green? Deliver it in September.
21:20 John Green? Yeah. Pay now, get in September. It's a classic bargain.
21:28 Hank Green? It's cheaper if you use your tax return.
21:32 John Green? It's only 28 bucks after your tax return.
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24:35 John Green? All right, let's answer this question from Anya, who writes, "Dear John and Hank, I wear two matching teardrop-shaped necklaces every day. They are cremation jewelry. One is gold and houses, my paternal papa, and the other is silver and houses, my maternal grandpa. They passed two months apart a few years ago and I've worn the necklaces since. The problem, sometimes people compliment them. How am I supposed to respond to this? Do I simply say, 'Thank you'? There is usually, that is usually my go-to, but I feel like I should explain. Is there a concise way to say, 'These are my dead grandpas', without sounding like a complete crazy person? 'Grandpas in grave dirt, Anya.'
25:07 Hank Green? That's gotta be a case-by-case situation.
25:10 John Green? Yeah, if you're like at a restaurant and somebody, and like the server is like, "I like your necklaces," you say, "Thank you." And if you're at, on a date and somebody says, "I like your necklaces," say, "Thank you, they're my grandpas." Because what a great conversation starter.
25:26 Hank Green? But John, what if the server is cute?
25:29 John Green? Oh, then you say, "Thank you, they're my grandpas."
25:32 Hank Green? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but, yep, yeah.
25:35 John Green? It's a good opening.
25:36 Hank Green? Because, because look, they want, they want to talk about something. Like, I don't say, "Hey, nice shoes," unless I want to have a little bit of a shoe conversation.
25:44 John Green? Sure, sure.
25:45 Hank Green? What if, that's true, we start a business where you get to wear your grandpas on your shoes?
25:53 John Green? Cremation jewelry, but it's shoes.
25:55 Hank Green? Like, put them in the aglets? Or put them in the rubber soles? You wear through them and then you're like, well, I guess. They're all, they're spread across my entire town.
26:05 John Green? No, I think jewelry is the right vibe for, I think we should get in the cremation jewelry business. So that seems like a great business.
26:11 Hank Green? You know what I've always wanted to do? I feel, I feel like we could totally do is, is do like copper burial rods? Because copper is one of the things that lasts forever. And so if you inscribe like a little message on a copper rod, I don't know why I feel like a rod is the right way to go. I guess we could do a coin.
26:27 John Green? Yeah, I think rod is the wrong impulse, but I'm, I'm with you on copper.
26:31 Hank Green? There's something about, there's something about a rod that I like, but anyway.
26:35 John Green? Hey.
26:35 Hank Green? I want, I want a rod. I want to be buried with a rod. You can't stop me.
26:42 John Green? Okay.
26:44 Hank Green? Not a rod. He's gonna die first. I, um, but, but so copper.
26:50 John Green? Bold prediction. I mean, he's not that much older than you.
26:53 Hank Green? He is very healthy as well.
26:54 John Green? I was gonna say, and he's fit.
26:58 John Green? I bet he gets his 150 minutes of weekly exercise in.
27:01 Hank Green? I bet he's never had shingles. Jesus.
27:03 John Green? I bet he hasn't had it three times.
27:07 Hank Green? So, uh, and, and this is a problem that like most, like almost everything that you bury with a person, it doesn't last very long. And so sometimes when you dig them up, it's like, what do we actually transport to the grave? Where we, we're gonna move the cemetery to a new place. And so they just like take a fistful of dirt or something. But I think that if they like could grab the rod, that would be great. Just like a fistful of dirt and the rod, so that there's always a little identifying information there.
27:29 John Green? Okay, so you're not talking about a copper rod that's a grave marker? You're talking about a copper rod that goes into the coffin?
27:36 Hank Green? Yeah, or the bag.
27:37 John Green? Okay.
27:38 Hank Green? The bag with a big dollar sign on the side of it. That's what I want to be buried in.
27:46 John Green? Yeah. You remember the 1910s? You know how robbers used to haul away stuff in bags marked with a dollar sign? I'd like that to be my cremation urn. Thank you.
28:00 Hank Green? I just want you to remember the value I delivered for shareholders.
28:07 John Green? Yeah, I don't dislike the copper rod idea. And I think, again, getting into the copper rod death sales business would be a good business. High margin, you're dealing with fine metals, you know, it seems good to me. I like it. I don't dislike it at all.
28:24 Hank Green? Coin is also nice. I like a coin.
28:26 John Green? A coin might be good. A copper coin that's got a message on it. You know, we have your grandmother's and my grandmother's wedding ring. My mom and I were looking at it and we looked at the date inscribed on the inside of the wedding ring and it was not nanny and Papa's anniversary. Because it was her grandmother's ring.
28:46 Hank Green? Wow. Yeah.
28:48 John Green? She inherited and that she wore her whole life.
28:50 Hank Green? I have Catherine's engagement ring was Papa's sister's ring, I think.
28:55 John Green? Okay.
28:57 Hank Green? And that's, that's what mom gave me to do the proposing?
29:01 John Green? I'll tell you a couple of things that are unlikely about that story.
29:04 Hank Green? Oh, no.
29:06 John Green? Papa had no sisters.
29:07 Hank Green? It was something like that, though.
29:09 John Green? And.
29:12 John Green? Something like that, though.
29:14 John Green? Oh, no.
29:15 Hank Green? Oh, I guess there's Aunt Nell. But Aunt Nell had kids of her own.
29:19 John Green? I think.
29:20 Hank Green? Yeah. It wasn't her wedding ring. It was just like a ring that he gave her at some point and then he got it back.
29:27 John Green? He took it back?
29:28 Hank Green? I think so.
29:29 John Green? It does sound like Papa.
29:31 Hank Green? I gotta ask mom. It was like, I don't know, it's been 20 years since I proposed. This was all very fresh in my mind.
29:36 John Green? I feel like you're besmirching Papa's good name one way or the other.
29:39 Hank Green? It had something to do with Miami.
29:42 John Green? Miami, that's a, that's a different, that's a different, that's an uncle, not an aunt.
29:46 Hank Green? Okay. All right.
29:48 John Green? Miami would be, uh, Tad.
29:53 Hank Green? That's a great name.
29:54 John Green? He used to give us $2 bills.
29:56 Hank Green? What? Oh, on dad's side?
29:59 John Green? Huh?
30:00 Hank Green? On dad's side?
30:01 John Green? No, mom's side.
30:02 Hank Green? Oh, I know. I remember that dad's dad used to give us $2 bills. He gave me a $2 bill with a Clemson stamp on it.
30:08 John Green? Nope. You are, I mean, your ability to misremember family history is truly astonishing.
30:15 Hank Green? That was Tad.
30:15 John Green? Ask yourself, did your grandfather go to Clemson? Or did he spend his entire life in Indianapolis?
30:24 Hank Green? That one.
30:25 John Green? Yeah. That's how you know that it wouldn't make sense for him to give you a Clemson $2 bill.
30:30 Hank Green? This whole time I've thought Clemson was in Indianapolis.
30:33 John Green? Nope. It's in South Carolina.
30:35 Hank Green? Oh.
30:37 John Green? Yeah. Go Tigers. It's, it's funny because you know so much about vitamin D and so little about your family history.
30:44 Hank Green? That's, it is. Do mom and dad listen to this podcast?
30:47 John Green? Probably, probably this episode they will. Uncle Mike listens. Uncle Mike's sitting there horrified right now. And baffled.
30:54 Hank Green? Yeah.
30:55 John Green? All right. Here we go. This question's from Rosie. She writes, Dear John and Hank, I just got unceremoniously and suddenly laid off yesterday after a successful five-year career with a company I loved. I'm sorry, Rosie, that sucks. I'm scrambling to pick up the pieces and just starting to deal with the emotional and financial whiplash of the situation. Whiplash is a great word for it, right? Because like, it's, it's like, everything is like ripped out from under you. Like, your whole life becomes so different so suddenly. And eh, I'm just sorry. Anyway, now that I'm looking for work, besides the typical suggestions of take a class or do a hobby, what else should I be doing with all my extra time? It's hard to focus on self-improvement things when you're stressed about your livelihood. Really appreciate any advice you have. While it's dark now, I hope the future looks a bit more. Rosie, nerd fighter since 2007. Thank you for sticking around all that time, Rosie. That's pretty cool of you.
31:40 John Green? Uh, I suggest a, a garden, a container garden, if you're not feeling ambitious. Where you just, uh, use any kind of containers you got around and put some dirt in them or, or some compost in them and, or some potting soil and grow a single tomato plant or a single pepper plant or something. I just find that caring for something that's alive, but doesn't need all of the support that say a dog needs or a gerbil needs is very helpful.
32:11 Hank Green? Yeah, yeah, jar, dirt, seed, all accessible, all accessible things. There's, um, there's this thing that Catherine does that I think is amazing where she'll take people's houseplants that are not doing well. And she'll like nurse them back to health.
32:29 John Green? She'll foster them.
32:30 Hank Green? Yeah, she like fosters a plant and she's like, oh, you got a lot of bugs on this one. And she, you know, she, she gives, totally repots it. She makes, she neems them up, gets that neem oil all over them. I just respect this, the heck out of this. And I'm like, just got a new plant in the downstairs shower. Where'd that one come from?
32:47 John Green? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so maybe foster some, some struggling plants from your friends. I just think like being with stuff that's, I, somebody told me once that when you hit middle age, you either become a bird person or a tree person. And I have very much become a tree person. And so maybe my bias is showing here, Rosie. But I feel like we are supposed to be with plants. That's the one thing, that's the one thing that I'm sure of, is that this is a plant planet and we are supposed to be in communion with them.
33:15 Hank Green? Yeah.
33:18 John Green? And they make food. And so at the end of it, you have some food, which is kind of a fun feeling. You're like, oh, man, I grew a tomato and I get to eat it.
33:26 Hank Green? Yeah. And that, and then also vitamins.
33:30 John Green? Also gives you a real appreciation for food systems in general, because it takes a hell of a lot of work to make one tomato.
33:37 Hank Green? Sometimes I'll see like an Instagram reel where they're out in like a broccoli field. And I'll be like, there ain't no way. I try to grow broccoli. It's, I got slugs, it's like everything is so hard. And then they're just like, it is like, nope. And yeah, I mean, obviously like there's broccoli at the store, so somebody's doing it.
33:56 John Green? Yeah.
33:56 Hank Green? Boy, they got a big broccoli field out there in California somewhere. I seen it on Instagram.
34:02 John Green? So anyway, we wish you well, Rosie, and we're sorry that you're going through this. Hopefully, indeed, rosier days are to come.
34:09 Hank Green? This next question comes from Sorin, who asks, Dear Hank and John, tonight I noticed one of the stickers on my sketchbook. It is a possum that says, "It's a beautiful day to scream. It glows in the dark. How do glow-in-the-dark stickers and other stuff work? Why do they need to charge under light first? The glowing reminded me of radium, which also made me wonder if glow-in-the-dark things can be different colors or only green? If only green, brothers, green, why? If they could be other colors, why do I only see green glow-in-the-dark things? Is it meant to resemble radium? Stay curious. Sorin." I love your, I love your possum, first of all. It's a beautiful day to scream. There's always a thing. There's always a reason.
34:49 John Green? I know the answer to this.
34:51 Hank Green? All right, hit me.
34:52 John Green? It could only be green.
34:54 Hank Green? Oh, oh, okay.
34:56 John Green? It can't be red.
34:59 Hank Green? Hmm, okay.
35:01 John Green? And it glows in the dark because it holds the energy. And the reason it, I'm not done, and the reason it is green is because of optics. And as we all know, Hank doesn't understand optics.
35:18 Hank Green? There's actually not very much optics going on here.
35:21 John Green? How much did I get right?
35:23 Hank Green? I think none.
35:24 John Green? None.
35:25 Hank Green? I mean, you got one thing right, which is that, like, it has to be charged. The light has to come from somewhere. So, so with, with radium, this actually isn't, I mean, it's coming from somewhere. It's coming from radioactive decay, which is going on over a long time. So you don't have to charge things up when, when they're being charged up by radioactive decay. But, um,
35:45 John Green? But there's some downsides to having your glow-in-the-dark possum be a radium possum.
35:49 Hank Green? Yes, the, the energy is coming from ionizing radiation, which also might ionize your cells. But phosphorescence is what we're talking about here. So the, the light will get absorbed. And then it, like, it basically raises the energy of the electrons to a different, higher state. And then slowly, those electrons relax back down. And every time they relax from one shell to another, from one, like, higher energy state to a lower energy state. A photon will be emitted. And because that does not happen immediately, it happens slowly over time. You get this glowing happening and it happens at the way, like the color comes from the wavelength of the photon that is released by the electron
36:34 Hank Green? shell. But like, it's defined by the amount of energy that it's dropping. So I think that this is like a, like, lower energy drop in the green.
36:44 John Green? All of this is literally what I said.
36:47 Hank Green? Is it?
36:48 John Green? You're just quoting me back to myself.
36:51 Hank Green? This is, this is interesting. This is interesting.
36:55 John Green? Yeah.
36:56 Hank Green? That is not, that is not how I am experiencing it.
36:59 John Green? It's interesting to be plagiarized.
37:01 Hank Green? Well, for example.
37:02 John Green? To have somebody take your answer and then answer it the same way. What a, what a fun thing for our listeners to hear the exact same answer twice.
37:10 Hank Green? Green is not the only wavelength that can be emitted. Is that a useful addition to know?
37:17 John Green? I said that, too.
37:21 Hank Green? But I think that the higher, the higher energy wavelengths are harder. And so I don't, I don't, like, I think that you might get red, but you, but like, in order to get red, they're doing weird things. That's, but I don't know.
37:35 John Green? All right. That was helpful to me, Hank. Thank you. I didn't know that every time a photon, an electron went from a higher state to a lower state, a photon was released. But that's kind of a beautiful idea.
37:44 Hank Green? Uh, yeah, it's, it, a lot of stuff is going on there, down there at the, at the weird molecular or the atomic level. And color turns out to be really fricking weird.
37:57 John Green? Yeah.
37:58 Hank Green? Seems pretty normal. See it all the time. Why is, why is things the colors they are? Way weirder than you think.
38:06 John Green? Yeah.
38:07 Hank Green? I just scratched my shingles, John, and it, it is such a crazy mix of.
38:13 John Green? Relief and pain.
38:14 Hank Green? Yes. It is like, like the, the intensity of the satisfaction feeling is beyond any itch I've ever had in my life. Like, I feel it in my brain. It's like full body dopamine wash, but then at the same time, pain.
38:33 John Green? Mm hmm. It's like giving into compulsive behaviors when you have bad OCD.
38:37 Hank Green? Maybe, yeah. It certainly is compulsing.
38:40 John Green? I know. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry that you have shingles. You've made now, I think, three podcasts while you had shingles, and I would have made none. I would have, I, I, you couldn't get me out of bed for a million dollars if I had shingles.
38:52 Hank Green? I am pretty exhausted. It is taking it out of me.
38:56 John Green? Well, let's hope mom and dad don't listen because they do worry about you.
39:00 Hank Green? Understandably.
39:01 John Green? All right, Hank, before we get to the all important news from our A F C Wimbledon, let's answer one more question from Mike, who writes, Dear John and Hank, teeth?
39:07 Hank Green? Teeth?
39:09 John Green? Feels like I have bones growing through my skin, which is not great. The need to perform daily maintenance seems to support that hunch. As to the existence of medical specialists, I need to visit annually in order to continue to have teeth. Have any creatures figured out a better answer? Flossing, flossing under protest, Mike.
39:27 Hank Green? As Titus Andromeda says, outside bones, outside bones. Never forget your teeth are outside bones. They're not, they're not like a hundred percent outside bones, but they are pretty amazing.
39:43 John Green? They are the closest thing to a bone currently outside my body that's connected to my body.
39:48 Hank Green? Yeah, I wrote a short story once that took place in a magical town that was sort of, you know, like a little bit teen, teen edgy. This was when I was a young person.
40:03 John Green? Oh, you wrote it when you were young. I thought this was a recent short story.
40:06 Hank Green? But no.
40:07 John Green? In that world, did people not have teeth?
40:09 Hank Green? No, but they did. There was a character who had done a magic thing so that his fingertips were his bones. And so he could like clack them and he was like a scary guy and he clacked the bones on the table when you were in meetings with him.
40:25 John Green? That's kind of good. I like, I like that. The fact that you wrote that as an edgy teen is actually quite impressive to me.
40:30 Hank Green? I was probably 23.
40:32 John Green? Okay.
40:33 Hank Green? Less impressive.
40:35 Hank Green? And who knows, who knows if I even have a copy of that anymore? Be interested to read. But that is not actually a solution that anyone has ever created. There are like other tooth solutions.
40:49 John Green? Yeah.
40:50 Hank Green? Obviously teeth are very useful. That's why so many things have them. But, but we, there are, of course, there's sharks that have the tooth conveyor belt that replaced them. Actually elephants replace their molars, though only a certain number of times. And at the end, they like, like have like their sixth molar come in and then with that one wears out, they just die.
41:10 John Green? Wow.
41:11 Hank Green? Crazy, unless they're in captivity and they get to eat mashed up stuff.
41:16 John Green? Wow.
41:17 Hank Green? And, uh, and like rodents that grow forever. That's a, that's a thing you can do. Beavers have their teeth doped with iron so that they're stronger. All kinds of crazy things happen in, in the teeth world, but we, we have teeth because like we, like extraordinarily useful to be able to grind stuff up. You know what I was thinking this morning, John? I'm always eating stuff.
41:40 John Green? Yeah.
41:40 Hank Green? Super, super strong ability. Like I can chew, I can chew some hard stuff.
41:46 John Green? Yep.
41:46 Hank Green? And you know what's like always less than a centimeter away from my hard chewers is my soft talker. He's just in there.
41:55 John Green? One of your softest parts and your soft cheek.
41:59 Hank Green? He's just in there like pushing, pushing the food right up into the teeth so it can get chewed on. And he gets bit so rarely.
42:07 John Green? And then when you do bite your tongue, I know when you do bite your tongue, it's so painful and so horrible. And then you think, then you should be thinking about all the times you didn't bite your tongue.
42:17 Hank Green? You should.
42:17 John Green? You know, we should be thinking with gratitude for, about all the days where the tongue went unbidden.
42:22 Hank Green? Yeah.
42:23 John Green? But man.
42:23 Hank Green? But, but we won't.
42:24 John Green? Because you do, you, you, you chomp with such ferocity.
42:29 Hank Green? Oh yeah, I could eat a tongue.
42:31 John Green? Oh yeah, I think I have.
42:34 Hank Green? Yeah, I definitely have.
42:36 John Green? Yeah.
42:36 Hank Green? I, yeah, yeah.
42:37 John Green? Yeah, I mean, I feel bad about it, but I've, I've had beef tongue.
42:41 Hank Green? Yeah.
42:42 John Green? Yeah.
42:42 Hank Green? Now that, now that you say it, for sure. The, the, and that's a big, that's way bigger than mine.
42:49 John Green? How weird is it in general that we have to masticate recently deceased plant and animal matter in order to continue thinking?
42:58 Hank Green? How weird is it?
43:00 John Green? So weird.
43:00 Hank Green? At all.
43:01 John Green? Oh, it's so weird. If you pitched that idea to an alien, they would hate it.
43:05 Hank Green? I don't know that we can be brothers anymore. I disagree with you and the project is over.
43:13 Hank Green? I mean, in terms of like earth animals, it's extremely normal because there's nobody who doesn't do it.
43:19 John Green? Yeah, but you would think we could just keep going from sunlight.
43:22 Hank Green? Right. Well, I think that, I feel the same way about babies where I'm like, boy, I know that this is how it all, all of us happened, but that's nuts.
43:31 John Green? Yeah, live birth is pretty wild.
43:33 Hank Green? That's nuts that you, that like, do you grow one in, you grow one?
43:37 John Green? On the inside.
43:38 Hank Green? From scratch?
43:39 John Green? Yeah.
43:41 John Green? Instead of just having some warm eggs.
43:44 Hank Green? I mean, even that's pretty weird, but yeah, not as weird.
43:47 John Green? Yeah. I just think if you pitched, for, okay, imagine pitching it to a tree. Imagine saying to a tree, yes, the only way you can live is by eating cows. Although you can, or, or eating, eat, worse still, eating other trees.
44:07 John Green? Like imagine pitching that to a plant.
44:09 Hank Green? Yeah, the tree's gonna be like, lick the nuts, lick the nuts? No, no, the whole tree.
44:13 John Green? No, the whole dang, well, what happens to the tree then? Well, it does. It's dead now. The tree is dead. That's the only way. In fact, you have to kill the tree first. You have to use, use the energy you got from killing the previous tree to kill a new tree so that you can have energy to kill the next tree.
44:31 Hank Green? There was like a time on earth before predation. You know, there was like, like afterlife, but before predation. And I don't think that it was long. I think that it was quite brief. But like, there's no reason why carnivores have to exist.
44:49 John Green? Well, and indeed, there's no reason why we have to be carnivores.
44:52 Hank Green? No, yes, yes, even more specific.
44:55 John Green? As I have lately learned by dramatically cutting my meat consumption.
44:59 Hank Green? Good for you.
45:00 John Green? I just had a Caesar salad. It wasn't very good.
45:05 Hank Green? Did it have meat in it?
45:07 John Green? Anyway, I would have made it better.
45:14 John Green? Anyway, we've got teeth. Lots of things have teeth, Mike. You got a floss and it is ridiculous, the amount of maintenance that teeth require, but they have such an upside.
45:25 Hank Green? They have such an upside.
45:28 Hank Green? They have such an upside, but they also have always been like a huge source of problems. Now, I will say our teeth are worse now than they probably would be if we had a sort of pure hunter-gatherer diet.
45:44 Hank Green? But there are lots of advantages to living the lifestyle that we have.
45:49 John Green? Lots of advantages.
45:50 Hank Green? And also, many animals have lived totally natural lives and have teeth problems that they die of very painfully. So glad that we have the dentists. Thank you for doing the work.
46:01 John Green? You know what we got in addition to dentistry from our modern lives, Hank?
46:07 Hank Green? What?
46:08 John Green? Football. Football, which did not exist just 200 years ago.
46:12 Hank Green? Of course.
46:13 John Green? 200 years ago, people would go farm. Most of them people were still farmers and they would come home and they would have no football to watch because it hadn't been invented yet.
46:25 Hank Green? Yeah, they just had to go to bed.
46:26 John Green? And now, now I can watch third-tier English football on a streaming service called Don's TV and enjoy AFC Wimbledon getting their absolute butts handed to them by Stockport County.
46:40 John Green? 3-0 and that scoreline, as that scoreline does flatter Stockport a little. As my friend Jonathan, longtime nerd fighter, texted me after the game. That was the most encouraging 3-0 loss I've ever seen. So there were reasons to be encouraged, but Wimbledon, realistically, I think we have eight games left in the season, or seven games left in the season. And to be safe, I think we might need one or two more points.
47:10 Hank Green? Okay, I think you can get them.
47:13 John Green? I hope so.
47:14 Hank Green? Are you playing any baddies?
47:16 John Green? No, we're playing mostly goodies.
47:18 Hank Green? Oh.
47:19 John Green? Like this weekend, we're playing Lincoln City, the best team in League One by a country mile.
47:22 Hank Green? A whole city?
47:23 John Green? They're gonna play us off the pitch. I know, it's not fair. It's not like AFC London gets to play Lincoln City, no. No, just little Wimbledon, just in that little corner of southwest London is playing Lincoln City.
47:35 Hank Green? And Stockton, the whole county as well.
47:37 John Green? I know, it's hard. It's hard to play a whole Stockport county. Fortunately, coming after that, we've got Luton Town, and we got a chance there.
47:44 Hank Green? You know, I feel like I know how Stockport got its name, John.
47:48 John Green? Yes, I believe it is, although it is not on the coast. So there's a surprise for you.
47:53 Hank Green? Is it on a river?
47:55 John Green? Probably.
47:56 Hank Green? They all are. It's England.
47:57 John Green? I don't like to judge places other than Milton Keynes. But I would say Stockport is a hard place, you know? Some places are soft, some places are hard. Stockport's a little harder than most places.
48:10 Hank Green? Yeah, yeah, Stockport's got some calluses.
48:13 John Green? Speaking of the franchise currently plying its trade in Milton Keynes, though, they are near the top of League Two. So there is a chance that next season... I know, that is too bad. There's a chance that next season we could play them. But there's also a chance that they could heroically fall down the ranks in the last few games of the season, which would be very funny, and lose in the playoffs, which would be a delight. So, a kid can dream.
48:50 Hank Green? In Mars News, the guy who wrote The Martian wrote another book that turned into another... Other movie that's just been an absolute smash hit.
49:00 John Green? Project Hail Mary. Big hit. Big hit.
49:03 Hank Green? Have you gone to see it yet?
49:05 John Green? I'm seeing it on Tuesday with my daughter.
49:07 Hank Green? Nice. Nice. It was a delight. I enjoyed it very much. And I also enjoy movies, you know? I just don't think I do it enough. Orin loved it, got a little bored at certain moments. It was quite long, but was enamored and was a big fan of the the secondary main character, who you meet in the, you know, first half of the movie.
49:33 John Green? My book, Hollywood Ending, is a Hollywood story. It's about Hollywood and it's really a love letter to movies on some level. Like, I love movies. And as I've gotten older, I've learned to love movies more and appreciate the art of them. So I'm really excited to see Project Hail Mary in the theater. I'm one of those old people that really enjoys going to the theater, getting the popcorn, getting the Coke Zero, that whole shebang. So it should be a good time. And it's great. It's great to go to a place where you watch a movie with strangers. I still think that has value.
50:08 Hank Green? Yeah, for sure.
50:10 John Green? You know, it doesn't have value.
50:13 Hank Green? Uh oh, ring pops.
50:14 John Green? Milton Keynes.
50:16 Hank Green? Oh, wow.
50:18 Hank Green? If you want to send us your questions, you can do that at [email protected] . That's how we have a podcast. There isn't anything without all of your lovely thoughts. So thank you to everybody who sent in your questions. This podcast is edited by Bridget Kennison. It's mixed by Callie Dishman. Our marketing specialist is Brooke Shotwell. It's produced by Rosiana Halsro, Hassan Hannah West. Our executive producer is Seth Radley. Our editorial assistant is Tabuki Chakravarti. The music you're hearing now at the beginning of the podcast is by the great Gonna Rolla. And as they say in our hometown,
50:48 John Green? Don't forget to be awesome.
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