#425 - "They Control Trump & Netanyahu" The Secret Family No One Talks About | Professor Jiang

Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Professor Jiang (Xueqin Jiang) is a teacher in China who has a popular YouTube channel @PredictiveHistory that covers philosophy, politics, education, and geopolitical forecasting. SPONSORS https://hims.com/danny - Get simple online access to personalized & affordable care for hair loss, ED, weight loss, and more. https://quo.com/danny - Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months. https://irestore.com/djp - Use code DJP to unlock your best hair, skin, & body plus HUGE savings. https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/zralgyl0 - Download Cash App today. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off. EPISODE LINKS Professor Jiang's channel: @PredictiveHistory Substack: https://substack.com/@predictivehistory *NEW* DJP MERCH https://dannyjonespodcast.com FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Danny confronts Jiang on being CCP spy 05:06 - Why Chinese people are so good at math 10:15 - The video that made Professor Jiang viral 13:44 - WeChat, the Chinese super-app 17:31 - Misconceptions about life in China 19:35 - China's one-child policy 25:40 - Raising kids in U. S. vs. China 29:49 - American food is poisonous 32:00 - Apple's Chinese factories are like prisons 35:38 - Chinese launders money for Mexican cartels 42:09 - How Xi Jinping and the CCP came to power 49:10 - Importance of the "Creative Class" in a global economy 56:02 - The most sensitive topic in China right now 57:37 - Xi Jinping is losing control of China 01:05:27 - The China-Taiwan dilemma 01:14:34 - Japan's Quad alliance 01:17:02 - China is in a lot of danger 01:18:38 - The Chabad-Lubavitch movement 01:19:27 - The Clean Break Memo 01:24:21 - The Jackson-Vanik amendment 01:28:43 - Henry "Scoop" Jackson & Rebbe Schneerson 01:35:36 - Most powerful Zionist in American history 01:43:37 - Rebbe Schneerson meets Netanyahu 01:50:46 - How Mark Zuckerberg REALLY made his money 01:56:23 - Mark Zuckerberg's connection to Rebbe Schneerson 02:05:59 - Kushner family's connection to Netanyahu & Trump 02:13:20 - Rebbe Schneerson & mysteries of the Bible 02:21:25 - Kabbalists believe the Holocaust was God's punishment 02:27:31 - Building the Third Temple in Jerusalem 02:35:31 - Natalie Harp believes Trump is Jesus 02:38:00 - Gog & Magog 02:42:59 - Laura Loomer's meeting with Ukraine's Chabad rabbi 02:46:15 - Why Trump invaded Iran 02:52:59 - The Iran & Ukraine wars are about to merge 02:59:35 - The Japanese yen carry trade 03:05:22 - American general's confession about foreign invasion 03:10:41 - How Trump gets a 3rd term 03:18:01 - Butler assassination attempt was a "ritual" 03:24:10 - Rothschilds' connection to religious elites 03:35:43 - Strangest details about Jeffrey Epstein 03:45:35 - The redacted Epstein files around 9/11 03:51:50 - History is about to repeat on free speech 03:55:25 - Jiang's 10-year prediction Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:51Danny Jones?

  First of all, I just gotta say, the CCP deserves a round of applause for this amazing American influence campaign.

• 0:58Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 0:58Danny Jones?

  You're doing an incredible job.

• 0:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, so how does it feel?

• 1:01Danny Jones?

  Make sure we sweep this place after he leaves.

• 1:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, how does it feel to have a Chinese spy on your podcast for the first time?

• 1:07Danny Jones?

  I think you might be the second. I think, uh, Lee might have been the first Chinese spy. I think you might be the second.

• 1:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, but I'm better than she is, right?

• 1:17Danny Jones?

  You're doing an incredible job. Oh, you're a superstar.

• 1:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that's what I want to say, you know.

• 1:21Speaker 05

  No, I'm on this.

• 1:22Danny Jones?

  Hats off to the CCP.

• 1:23Speaker 05

  So I'm doing this national tour and I'm going around the United States on this secret mission to undermine American democracy by teaching Americans facts and logic and how to think for themselves. That's my secret mission. And it might be impossible.

• 1:38Danny Jones?

  I mean, it's the first time I've ever seen anything like it, man.

• 1:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:41Danny Jones?

  Very impressive.

• 1:42Speaker 05

  Thank you, yeah.

• 1:44Danny Jones?

  So how did you get into all this stuff with creating this? First of all, how does a guy like you get away with talking about the things you talk about in China?

• 1:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, so, um, I work at a part school in Beijing and it's a very gray zone because it's not public, meaning we don't train our students to take the national entrance examination to get into Chinese college. And these are students who are wealthy enough to apply to US colleges. So we, we teach them English, we teach them, um, philosophy. And I was brought on to teach philosophy and geopolitics. And, um, I started to record my lectures on YouTube and I'm a maverick in education.

• 2:36Speaker 05

  I don't like how schools are run and I try to provoke students into deep thought. So, um, one thing that I did was make predictions in my history class. And my argument was that you can look at historical analogies and history repeats itself. So as long as you're able to apply current events to, um, the past, then you should be able to make pretty accurate predictions about what's going to happen in the near future. So, um, I structured my class around three predictions and this was May 2024. My first prediction was that, uh, Trump would win a second term. He would get a second term.

• 3:20Speaker 05

  My second prediction was that he would start a war against Iran. And my third prediction, um, is that the United States would lose this war and thus reset the global order. And so two of my three predictions have panned out and that's what made me viral online.

• 3:39Danny Jones?

  How long have you been teaching in China?

• 3:41Speaker 05

  Um, so I went to Yale, um, and after I got from Yale.

• 3:47Danny Jones?

  So you were born in China?

• 3:49Speaker 05

  No, yeah, so I, so my background is I was born in China.

• 3:51Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 3:52Speaker 05

  In a small village, we were very poor. And then when I was six years old, uh, we went to Toronto and that's where I grew up and went to school. And then I got a scholarship to go to Yale College and I studied English literature there. And then after Yale, I want to return to China.

• 4:08Speaker 05

  And I've been there ever since. So I've been there for about 26 years now. And I've been working in education, um, in different capacities since then.

• 4:19Danny Jones?

  And you said that the, the school that hired you, it's a, it's like a private school that's not, it's not traditional school in China.

• 4:29Speaker 05

  That's right, that's right. So, um, the vast majority of schools train students to get into a Chinese college. And there's a system of rote memorization. So you just have to memorize books and books of knowledge. And then you take a multiple choice test. If you pass it, then you go into a good college. Um, and these are students whose parents don't want their kids to go through that path because it's very stressful. You know, 80% of Beijing high school students have been diagnosed as depressed or, uh,

• 5:03Danny Jones?

  8%?

• 5:03Speaker 05

  80%.

• 5:04Danny Jones?

  Oh, 80%?

• 5:05Speaker 05

  80% of Beijing high school students have been diagnosed as having some sort of mental problem. And it could be, um, stress, it could be burnt out, um, it could be depression, uh, but it's a huge issue in China. And so these are students who have opted out of that traditional path and they want to go to the United States. And so you need to provide them an education that focuses on English as well as teaching them like reading and writing skills.

• 5:37Danny Jones?

  Now, is this specific to Beijing or is this throughout China?

• 5:40Speaker 05

  This is throughout China.

• 5:41Danny Jones?

  Throughout China.

• 5:41Speaker 05

  So, um, right now there are about 300,000, 300,000 Chinese students studying in an American college, like a four-year undergraduate program.

• 5:51Danny Jones?

  I heard something about, I read in this book one time, I can't remember what book it was, but it was explaining how the reason that Chinese are so much better at, uh, math is something to do with the language, like the Chinese language?

• 6:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, so, um, I think you're referring to Malcolm Gladwell.

• 6:12Danny Jones?

  Yes, that's what it was.

• 6:13Speaker 05

  And he wrote a book called Outliers.

• 6:15Danny Jones?

  Yes, that's what it was, thank you.

• 6:16Speaker 05

  Trying to explain why, um, um, Chinese are so good at math. He has a very funny theory, um, that is not, uh, scholarly or academic in any way. But his argument is that, um, the human brain can only absorb so many syllables at once. And because in English, a lot of these, uh, numbers have multiple syllables, like 11, right? Uh, but in, in Chinese, they're just one syllable. So it's easier for, uh, Chinese to remember long strings of, of digits. And that's his theory.

• 6:53Danny Jones?

  You don't, I mean, you don't agree with that?

• 6:55Speaker 05

  I don't agree with Malcolm Gladwell.

• 6:56Danny Jones?

  So what makes the, the Chinese so much better at math than us?

• 7:00Speaker 05

  It's a system that prioritizes math above everything else. So our math students are like football stars in high school.

• 7:10Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that's wild.

• 7:11Speaker 05

  That's, it's wild. And so what happens is, you know, you show an aptitude for mathematics and you are, um, given very special treatment by the teachers, right? So if you do well math tests, you're considered a genius and therefore you don't have to follow the rules. You can curse out the teacher, you can bully your classmates.

• 7:31Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 7:31Speaker 05

  Same, that's like football stars in the United States, exactly the same system.

• 7:35Danny Jones?

  What kind of jobs are these math wizards in China getting? Like what, what's the ultimate goal for these guys? Is there, is there any sort of, is it, is it sort of, any similarities with sort of the individualistic view of the United States where people want to climb the ladder, gain wealth, you know, drive a nice car, get a hot girl? How is it compared to that, like the US?

• 7:56Speaker 05

  It's exactly the same.

• 7:58Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 7:58Speaker 05

  Because, you know, these football stars, they're aiming for the NFL, right? These math stars are aiming for AI, artificial intelligence. Cause if you work for Meta, right? That's like half a million starting salary. That's the NFL of AI.

• 8:14Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 8:15Speaker 05

  It's the same system.

• 8:16Danny Jones?

  And they can do that from China or they have to move to the US?

• 8:19Speaker 05

  Um, so they go for the Chinese system and then they come to the United States for graduate study. So they go to Stanford or.

• 8:27Danny Jones?

  Is that a, um, a common thing for these people in the Chinese education system to strive to want to go to the United States?

• 8:36Speaker 05

  That's exactly right, yeah.

• 8:37Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 8:38Speaker 05

  Because, um, the dream is this, the dream is to work your ass off, come to the United States to do a graduate program in data science or artificial intelligence, then get a professorship for about 10 years and you go back to China and then you are now like a superstar. Uh, you have unlimited funding, um, and, uh, you get hot girls.

• 9:02Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 9:02Speaker 05

  And, uh, yeah.

• 9:04Danny Jones?

  Are there, is there anyone else like you that is educating people in China on the things that you're talking about, like these, you know, I mean, to the common, to the uninitiated, this stuff sounds wacky, right? You're talking about secret societies and you're talking about all kinds, the Rothschilds and you're talking about a geopolitics and like the, the, the devil's chessboard type stuff. So how many Chinese students in China are aware of this kind of stuff?

• 9:31Speaker 05

  Well, I mean, uh, when you watch my video and I'm teaching, there's in the back exactly one student, uh, watching me. So.

• 9:43Danny Jones?

  Just one?

• 9:44Speaker 05

  Maybe there's, sometimes when I'm lucky, there's two. You know, if I'm, if I'm having a good day, I get two students.

• 9:51Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 9:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, but, um.

• 9:53Danny Jones?

  One's running, one runs the camera?

• 9:56Speaker 05

  Uh, no, no, what, it's a serious operation because what I do is I get a tripod and I put the camera on the tripod, I turn on, then I teach, then I turn it off, then I upload it to YouTube. That's the extent of my production values.

• 10:10Danny Jones?

  I really love your whiteboard because I thought, I was, I was fooled. I thought it was a chalkboard and then you started changing the colors on it and I was super impressed. That's a really cool little setup.

• 10:19Speaker 05

  Everyone loves that thing.

• 10:20Danny Jones?

  Yeah. I think Patrick Bet David loves it a lot too.

• 10:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, he does.

• 10:24Danny Jones?

  He tried to take a page out of your book, you see that?

• 10:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. No, uh, everyone complains because I've left the school and they're like, you need to go back to the school and get, get that blackboard, whiteboard back and go back to your old teaching.

• 10:37Danny Jones?

  Did that, that whiteboard company needs to reach out to you. They need to, you need to do a deal with them. I'm sure they would, they're getting a lot of promo.

• 10:44Speaker 05

  They are, they are getting a lot of promo. Yeah.

• 10:47Danny Jones?

  So you started doing these videos about the history of the United States and you have a couple of students in your class in China and, uh,

• 10:58Danny Jones?

  You said it was, was there a specific video that sort of like exploded on YouTube? And you were just like, holy shit, what's happening?

• 11:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, so the video that started to gain traction online is last June, I made a video on the fall and decline of American empire. And towards the end of the video, I predicted that Israel would attack Iran. And a couple of days later, that's exactly what happened. And that got me about, so last May, I was at 200 subscribers on YouTube. And my goal was to reach 5,000 in maybe a year. My, my dream was a 5,000 YouTube subscribers. And I thought that I would have made it if that, if I did that.

• 11:51Speaker 05

  So after that video and after the 12 day war last June, I went in a month to about 400,000 subscribers. And then this March, the United States attacks Iran. And now I'm close to 2.8 million subscribers.

• 12:09Danny Jones?

  That's bonkers in a year.

• 12:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.

• 12:14Danny Jones?

  And I was kind of asking you.

• 12:16Speaker 05

  Thank you CCP. Thank you for, for.

• 12:19Danny Jones?

  They're doing a great job.

• 12:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, thank, thank you for, um, yes, investing in me. Yes.

• 12:23Danny Jones?

  By the way, is there like different rules in China for YouTube than there is in the United States?

• 12:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's not allowed.

• 12:31Danny Jones?

  No, YouTube's not allowed. How the hell do you do it then?

• 12:33Speaker 05

  It's illegal to watch YouTube and it's illegal to post on YouTube.

• 12:38Danny Jones?

  Then how, so why aren't you in jail? Oh yeah, CCP, I forgot that.

• 12:43Danny Jones?

  Special privileges.

• 12:44Speaker 05

  That's right. No, um, so, um, I'm a foreigner. And I'm basically posting to a foreign audience. The best way to see, the best way to understand this is like, just pretend I'm a Martian, making videos for people back on Mars, right? Does it really affect people on Earth? Not really. Do the governments of Earth care? Not really.

• 13:06Danny Jones?

  Right, but like, so how do you go on to YouTube then if you're in China?

• 13:08Speaker 05

  Oh, VPN. Everyone has a VPN.

• 13:10Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 13:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 13:11Danny Jones?

  So the Chinese haven't figured out how to stop the VPNs?

• 13:13Speaker 05

  Um, they have.

• 13:15Danny Jones?

  I thought they have some like crazy firewall.

• 13:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, so I think there are secret agreements between VPN companies and the Chinese state. Because, uh, and I, and I think this because there are Chinese VPNs will block certain sensitive news articles about China. Right? So what the Chinese state recognizes is you can't block off the internet because how will scholars, how will professors do research? Right? The reality is that most information is on, is in English. And it's across the firewall. So you just block China off, then your professors, your researchers, uh, your academics will fall way behind.

• 14:00Speaker 05

  So I think they make this compromise where, okay, well, there's this gray area where we allow certain people to access the internet. Because remember, uh, the thing about the internet is that it's in English. And 99% of people in China do not speak English. So it's not really a problem for China.

• 14:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah, if you were speaking in Chinese to a Chinese audience, well, first of all, they would catch you because you can't, people in China can't watch YouTube. They have a specific platform.

• 14:27Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 14:28Danny Jones?

  Right?

• 14:28Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 14:29Danny Jones?

  And what is it called? So this, there's one giant social media platform that everyone talks on and communicates on, is that true?

• 14:34Speaker 05

  It's called WeChat.

• 14:36Danny Jones?

  So WeChat is all there is?

• 14:40Speaker 05

  Um, there are other social media, but WeChat is the most common. And WeChat is crazy because you just open up WeChat and you can order Uber, a taxi on WeChat, go to the restaurant. And then on your WeChat, you can order a meal and then pay for it. And, and then leave. And WeChat has all your data. Like from the moment you get up to the moment you go to bed, WeChat is monitoring everything you do. It has all your communication with all your friends and it's able to track you.

• 15:15Danny Jones?

  Do they, do they make, do they have like wearable devices you have to wear to like track your heart rate and all that stuff?

• 15:20Speaker 05

  Um, it's coming.

• 15:21Danny Jones?

  Right. You know, like Oura Ring, just at a partnership with Palantir.

• 15:24Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 15:25Danny Jones?

  Where they're getting, I don't know what they're doing, but they're, they have access to the data.

• 15:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:29Danny Jones?

  Something like that, I would imagine.

• 15:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, so I will say this, I will say that the surveillance in the United States, it is much more sophisticated than in China. Because for example, um, I can turn off my geolocator on my phone in China. But with my Apple iPhone in the United States, I don't, I don't know how to do that. Um, my phone in the United States, it's tracking a lot more information about me than my phone back, back in China.

• 15:59Danny Jones?

  How so?

• 16:00Speaker 05

  Um, it's just.

• 16:01Danny Jones?

  Cause it, cause you're, you're saying with the way the iPhones are set up, you can turn it, you can basically turn the iPhone completely off and it's still listens and tracks locations and stuff like that?

• 16:11Speaker 05

  Right, so on my Chinese phone, um, I usually turn off my GPS. Um, but like on my, on my iPhone here in the United States, I'm not sure how I turn off my GPS, my geo tracker, yeah.

• 16:27Danny Jones?

  Right, I see what you're saying. Do you guys have TikTok in China still?

• 16:31Speaker 05

  Uh, it's not called TikTok, it's called Douyin, but it's the Chinese version, yes.

• 16:35Danny Jones?

  And is it true, I've heard so many, uh, people talk about how there's a curfew for that app for kids? When it's only like educational content?

• 16:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's a great thing. Yeah.

• 16:45Danny Jones?

  It's true.

• 16:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, you, you guys should do it. Look, look, I mean, I talk trash about China all the time, but I think the fact that they limit social media exposure to kids, it's a wonderful thing.

• 16:56Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 16:56Speaker 05

  Because you look at how depressed teenagers are, especially girls, because of their exposure to social media. I mean, it's, it's a mental health crisis in the United States.

• 17:05Danny Jones?

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• 18:31Danny Jones?

  You know, like you talked about with the WeChat, monitoring all that stuff. And you know, everyone is the same, they're treated like robots.

• 18:39Speaker 05

  We have a great healthcare system. Um, so I don't have a health insurance, but you know, if I were to break my arm, I would go to a hospital and, um, I would pay maybe a hundred dollars for them to do an X-ray and for them to subscribe, prescribe some medication and for them to put me in a cast. It'd be nothing. Whereas the United States, it would literally cost you an arm and a leg.

• 19:07Danny Jones?

  What do you think's the more optimal nation-state, China or the United States?

• 19:11Speaker 05

  Um, I mean, if I had to choose where to live, I would definitely choose to live in the United States.

• 19:18Danny Jones?

  If you had to choose which country you were, you, you got to run?

• 19:21Speaker 05

  Oh, well, China. It's a lot easier to run a nation without guns.

• 19:27Danny Jones?

  I, I think that, I think the American leaders are very envious of China.

• 19:31Speaker 05

  I think so, but, but not just the leaders, I think the elite in general, right? The oligarchy. They're very envious of the Chinese system because of how obedient Chinese are.

• 19:44Danny Jones?

  And I think that they're just, I think we're frustrated, not we, but those people, the elite of the United States are frustrated that they have to continue this lie of democracy. Because that's not what they are or what they want to be.

• 19:58Speaker 05

  No, you look at, you look at the opposition towards data centers in the United States, right? I mean, people are angry about data centers. But in China, no one ever complains about data centers.

• 20:10Speaker 05

  People just don't believe they have a right to protest.

• 20:15Danny Jones?

  And then talk to me about that. We were talking a little bit about this last night. The one child policy.

• 20:21Speaker 05

  Sure, sure.

• 20:22Danny Jones?

  In China. So you were explaining to me that people don't want to have girls.

• 20:28Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 20:29Danny Jones?

  Because the girls marry after their family and it's and like there the lineage of a family is very, very important to the culture of China and to the families that are living in China.

• 20:40Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 20:41Danny Jones?

  So and and the healthcare system doesn't extend past the first child.

• 20:45Speaker 05

  Yes, okay. So for most of its history, I'm saying I'm talking about like the People's Republic of China, which was founded in nineteen forty nine. For most of its history, it was a socialist nation. And we call this the iron rice bowl system in that the state guarantees you a job, healthcare and a pension. And during this time,

• 21:12Speaker 05

  the first major leader was Chairman Mao Zedong. And he had certain ideas about how to run a country. And he believed in population growth. He believed that nations that encourage childbearing would be more successful than other nations. And so during this time, and this this from the nineteen fifties until the nineteen late nineteen seventies,

• 21:42Speaker 05

  parents were encouraged to have as many children as possible. And you have this population explosion in China. And then the next leader, the next paramount leader named Deng Xiaoping, he comes into power in the late seventies, early eighties. And he's very concerned about population growth because he understands that the more people you have, the greater the strain on resources. So to reverse a lot of Mao Zedong's policies, they institute something called the one child policy. And as a family, you only permitted one child. And if you had more than one child,

• 22:27Speaker 05

  these children would be removed from the social system. They would not be guaranteed jobs. They would lose access to schooling and to healthcare. Plus, parents would be given a huge fine. So this was pretty easily implemented in the cities, in the urban areas. If you're government official, you got promoted based on your adherence to the one child policy. If you had more than one child, then you lost your job as a government official. This was this was a lot harder implement in the countryside because the countryside is obviously much more traditional. And they believe in the importance of having sons for a variety of reasons. The main reason is

• 23:14Speaker 05

  the socialist system didn't really extend to the countryside. So there was no welfare. There was no pension. So you needed you needed labor. You needed you needed boys. If you had girls, you could spend twenty years feeding and raising this girl. But then when she was twenty, she could run off and marry someone else and you would lose that labor. Also, lineage is very important. So you want to continue your family clan. You know, a source of pride is

• 23:46Speaker 05

  is to have a family that extended like back thousands of years. And there are families that do extend back thousands of years. So a son is really important. So this this was a huge problem in the countryside. So much so that infanticide became a huge problem. Right? Infanticide is where they kill the girl at maybe one month or one week after she she's born in order to have a son. And there are families who might kill three or four girls before they have a son. And now there's a fifty million gender imbalance in China. There are fifty million more boys than there are girls in China.

• 24:29Danny Jones?

  That's insane.

• 24:30Speaker 05

  It is insane.

• 24:31Danny Jones?

  And is that strictly strictly within a specific age group? Or is that like, is it like that with the older population as well as the younger population?

• 24:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, so the one child policy was implemented in nineteen eighties. So we're talking about people between, basically, yeah.

• 24:52Danny Jones?

  Wow. Not that like I am an advocate of killing any baby, whether it's born or unborn, but why do they wait until after it's born?

• 25:03Speaker 05

  Because they don't know if it's a girl or boy until after it's born.

• 25:06Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah. So they don't do the

• 25:08Speaker 05

  It is illegal.

• 25:09Danny Jones?

  It's illegal.

• 25:10Speaker 05

  For a doctor to tell you the gender of your child.

• 25:15Danny Jones?

  So they have to wait until the, why is that illegal?

• 25:18Speaker 05

  Because if they if they told the parents, then every parent would abort the girl.

• 25:31Speaker 05

  Right? Because they want the boy. So if you at each at one month, if the fetus is one month and you know it's it's a girl, then you abort it right away.

• 25:40Danny Jones?

  Oh, I see.

• 25:41Speaker 05

  Right? So they make it illegal.

• 25:44Danny Jones?

  Wow, that's insane.

• 25:46Speaker 05

  Yeah. I have three kids. They're all born in China and

• 25:52Speaker 05

  you know, we really wanted a girl. And we didn't know it was a boy or girl until, you know, he came out of the womb and we saw the penis.

• 26:05Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 26:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. The doctor, the doctor is not allowed.

• 26:09Danny Jones?

  On the edge of your seat, but the doctor knows?

• 26:11Speaker 05

  The doctor knows, yes.

• 26:12Danny Jones?

  Right, because you guys still have the technology to do all the early screening.

• 26:15Speaker 05

  Will not tell you.

• 26:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 26:19Danny Jones?

  So none of your children are born in the US?

• 26:21Speaker 05

  That's right. They're all born in China.

• 26:22Danny Jones?

  Wow, man. And do you think that, do you think, so you think you want to raise your kids in the US? Or somewhere outside of China?

• 26:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, so this is an issue we're struggling with because we don't like the Chinese system. Because you know how in the United States, kids start doing sports at like three or four, right?

• 26:43Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 26:44Speaker 05

  Well, in China, they start doing math at three or four. You know, they literally go to cram schools and they start doing algebra at age three or four. And we're like, that's insane.

• 26:54Danny Jones?

  That is insane.

• 26:55Speaker 05

  Because the kids are not mentally equipped to do abstract thinking at that age. I know because I've worked I've worked in education all my life. And you're really stunting the mental growth of majority of of kids. The problem is that Chinese system is a winner take all system. So it's almost like this. It's really the same as the football system here where you know what, a thousand kids try football, one will make it and everyone else will have an injury or

• 27:22Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 27:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:24Danny Jones?

  Well, I don't understand, like, I I mean, I see what you're saying. There's no emphasis on abstract thinking because it's all very mathematical. And, you know, if you look at the economy of China, it's you know, the majority, it's not creative.

• 27:40Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 27:41Danny Jones?

  For the most part, right?

• 27:42Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 27:42Danny Jones?

  But you know, the schools in the US aren't really promoting abstract or creative thinking either. It's also a very rigidized, like cookie cutter system.

• 27:53Speaker 05

  Yes, yes. Also, what I don't like about about the United States is how kids are prescribed medication at a very early age. So if you're a boy and you're, you know, you jump around and ask questions.

• 28:08Danny Jones?

  Adderall, yeah.

• 28:09Speaker 05

  They they think they think you have ADHD just for being a boy.

• 28:13Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 28:13Speaker 05

  And I think that is just inhumane. I mean, boys, I have two boys and you you have two boys as well. They run around.

• 28:20Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 28:20Speaker 05

  They have a lot of energy. They're going to challenge authority. They're going to ask questions. They're curious. And this is something that should be encouraged. But when they go to school, they're considered a problem. They're considered to have ADHD. They prescribe Adderall. And I think it really screws them up for the rest of their lives. So I'm not, I would not be happy sending my children to a formal school anywhere.

• 28:43Danny Jones?

  Right. Well, at least you have, you know, the ability to stay informed with that stuff here. Right, right. We have with access to things like the internet and you can get a variety of different opinions on what's going on and, you know, listen to people like you talk about this stuff. And, you know, the problem, the problem is like the uneducated lower class of people who don't have the time to pay attention to any of that stuff. And they're just sort of like in the system.

• 29:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:07Danny Jones?

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• 30:34Speaker 05

  The other thing I will say about the US system that's bad for kids is the food. Yeah, I mean, we've been here for about two weeks. My my son and I, my eldest son, who you met last night. And like the food, it's poison, right? Because it's so much salt, fat and sugar. And obesity obesity is a huge problem here. It's a growing problem actually in China as well.

• 31:01Danny Jones?

  Really? There's fat people in China?

• 31:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, because there's rich people in China now.

• 31:05Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 31:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, so.

• 31:07Danny Jones?

  I haven't seen any China fatties before. I've never been. Yeah. I mean, I mean, talking about here.

• 31:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:13Danny Jones?

  You know, most Chinese, most Chinese are very fit that I've seen.

• 31:17Speaker 05

  Well, they're thin. I wouldn't say they're fit. But if you go to Beijing, it's a growing problem because because the Western lifestyle, it's penetrating China. So it's a high carb, high fat diet.

• 31:32Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 31:35Danny Jones?

  Yeah, so China has a food problem, right?

• 31:39Speaker 05

  Um, what do you mean by food problem?

• 31:42Danny Jones?

  I believe that La Lei, when she was here, she was explaining to us that there's a China relies on importing all of its food.

• 31:52Speaker 05

  That's correct, yes. So China imports about a quarter of its food, which is crazy because China is primarily an agricultural nation. So what happened was that during the 1980s, they transferred farmers into factories, right? They encouraged people to leave the countryside and move to the cities to work in factories. And if you do that, you industrialize, then you are no longer food self-sufficient. And so they started to import a lot of food from overseas. Before, China was importing most of its soybeans actually from the United States. But after the trade war started, you know, the trade war started in 2018, China started

• 32:36Speaker 05

  to import more soybeans from Brazil. But China does import most of its oil and most of its food from overseas.

• 32:44Danny Jones?

  Does Apple, I think Apple diversified a bunch of its manufacturing hubs out of China.

• 32:52Speaker 05

  Not really.

• 32:53Danny Jones?

  Not really?

• 32:53Speaker 05

  So what happened was this. So it's almost impossible to compete with China in terms of low-cost manufacturing, just because the Chinese system, there's so many people and they have basic skills and they're pretty obedient. Also, China has an amazing logistics network. So what happened was to get around sanctions, a lot of these factories that used to be based in China moved to Vietnam.

• 33:23Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 33:24Speaker 05

  And other parts of Southeast Asia, even Mexico.

• 33:27Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 33:27Speaker 05

  So you're still working with these Chinese subcontractors, but to get around trade.

• 33:33Danny Jones?

  So the Chinese companies put warehouses in other countries?

• 33:37Speaker 05

  Factories in Malaysia, Vietnam. Yes, they moved their factories. Yes. So it's still, China is still supplying most of the world's manufacturing, yes.

• 33:45Danny Jones?

  Is this suicide net thing real? You know how they had the stories that there were suicide nets around the factories, like the Apple factories?

• 33:51Speaker 05

  That's right. So the factory you're referring to is called Foxconn.

• 33:56Danny Jones?

  Foxconn, yes.

• 33:56Speaker 05

  And Foxconn is the main subcontractor to Apple. So Apple is mainly design and marketing. It's Foxconn that actually manufactures the iPhones. And these are cities, these are like huge dystopian cities of like hundreds of thousands of workers. And they treat like cattle. They literally are human cattle. And as you can imagine, to, yeah, yeah, this is exactly what it was.

• 34:25Danny Jones?

  Whoa, this looks like something out of a frickin' Adam Curtis documentary.

• 34:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's dystopian. Yeah. And they're huge. They're like, they're literally cities.

• 34:33Danny Jones?

  Show me some more pictures.

• 34:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 34:35Danny Jones?

  Oh, wow, there's the nets. Oh, wow.

• 34:39Speaker 05

  And they're designed like prison systems, right? So you live in a place and when you get up, you go to the assembly line and you do this thing for like eight, 10 hours. And as you can imagine, it has tremendous impact on the mental health of these people.

• 34:55Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 34:56Speaker 05

  So some people become suicidal and then they, you know, in a moment of anxiety and stress, they just jump and kill themselves. And that's why they have these suicide nets. But this is a huge problem in China. And Terry.

• 35:11Danny Jones?

  This was very bad PR for Apple.

• 35:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm sure it's pretty bad PR and they deserve it.

• 35:16Danny Jones?

  Did they do anything about it?

• 35:18Speaker 05

  I don't think they did. Yeah. Because people like their iPhones. And honestly, I think that if you were to manufacture iPhone in the United States, it'd be like five times the cost at least.

• 35:31Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 35:31Speaker 05

  Right? So like, do you want your cheap iPhone or do you want human rights in China? That's your option.

• 35:40Danny Jones?

  That's crazy.

• 35:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:41Danny Jones?

  Absolutely crazy. Not only that, they're using slave labor to get all the lithium, right? They have the, they're the mines that they're mining all the, not lithium, what's the other, there's.

• 35:50Speaker 05

  The rare earths.

• 35:51Danny Jones?

  The rare earth minerals that they need to create like the batteries.

• 35:53Speaker 05

  So, yeah, it's, so, I mean, people don't appreciate that China has a rare earths monopoly because China is willing to sacrifice its people and its environment in order to extract the rare earths. The United States has plenty of rare earths, but you guys want clean water and clean air and trees and grass.

• 36:11Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 36:11Speaker 05

  Right? So.

• 36:13Danny Jones?

  Yeah, we don't want to pollute all that stuff.

• 36:15Speaker 05

  That's right. And like, and honestly, like, rare earths extraction is probably the most environmentally costly activity on the planet.

• 36:22Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm. What do you know about, or how much have you looked into Chinese involvement with the Mexican cartels?

• 36:28Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, it's huge.

• 36:29Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 36:29Speaker 05

  It's huge.

• 36:30Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I know there, I've heard stories from cartel reporters that I've talked to where, you know, they've explained, you know, the cartel is basically everywhere. It's ubiquitous in Mexico. They do everything from security, they'll run security for like, you know, the Ford Motor Company, you know, when they're, you know, patrolling like the perimeter of their factories and things like that. Also, companies that are running lithium mines in Mexico, they also need heavy security. So the cartel kind of, they're kind of like fixers everywhere there. And I know that China is very deeply involved.

• 37:02Speaker 05

  Yeah. So, you know, the reality is that if you go to Mexico, the cartels are probably the most efficient part of the country.

• 37:11Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 37:12Speaker 05

  Right? So, and the Chinese have, don't care who they work with, as long as the job gets done. But the main point of cooperation between the cartels and China is actually in money laundering. So the cartels have a lot of cash.

• 37:26Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 37:27Speaker 05

  Right? They're a cash-rich business. The problem is how do they legitimize this cash, right? That's the cartel problem. The China, China has a different problem because there are lots of rich Chinese and they need to move their money out of the country and preferably into the United States. Because there's lots of financial restrictions against moving your money out of the United States. So a Chinese citizen is only allowed to move 50,000 US out of China into the United States.

• 38:03Danny Jones?

  Every year?

• 38:05Speaker 05

  Every year. So if you're a millionaire, that sucks.

• 38:07Danny Jones?

  That's a slow process.

• 38:08Speaker 05

  Right? So, so the way around this is through trade. Okay, so, so what I do is this, okay, and I'm talking hypothetically as well, for simplicity's sake. All right, so the Mexican cartel has boatloads of US cash, right? So you borrow from the cartel, like maybe $2 million, and they buy you a house in Flushing, Queens, New York. Okay? Now you owe the cartels $2 million. And so how do you compensate them for that? Well, you do it through trade, right? So the cartels set up a factory and

• 38:50Speaker 05

  you buy goods from this factory at an inflated price.

• 38:54Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 38:55Speaker 05

  And then the cartels now are able to launder their, you know, drug money. And the Chinese are able to launder their money in the United States to buy real estate.

• 39:07Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 39:08Speaker 05

  And that's a main point of cooperation.

• 39:09Danny Jones?

  Chinese rich people in China are using the Mexican cartels sort of as like, like mortgage, mortgage lenders on real estate in the United States?

• 39:20Speaker 05

  Banks, basically.

• 39:20Danny Jones?

  Banks, right.

• 39:23Danny Jones?

  That's crazy. And this is all to get around like the sanctions or like international laws, like trade laws?

• 39:29Speaker 05

  It's to get around the financial repression in China.

• 39:33Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 39:34Speaker 05

  Because.

• 39:34Danny Jones?

  And this is because of the, this is not the United States that's making this rule.

• 39:37Speaker 05

  Right. So you are not allowed to convert, so the US dollar and the renminbi are not convertible, right? So, so you, because the reality is, if you are a Chinese person and you're allowed, and you're allowed to convert, you would just convert all your renminbi into US dollars, right?

• 39:55Danny Jones?

  Right, right.

• 39:55Speaker 05

  So, and this would cause a collapse of the renminbi, of the Chinese economy. So there are tremendous restrictions on that. And so the way you get around that is by working with Mexican cartels. If you're a millionaire or billionaire, right? Obviously, if you're an ordinary person, you don't really care, right? But you have a lot of money to burn and you need to invest it and you need to move this capital overseas.

• 40:18Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 40:19Speaker 05

  Then you work for the cartels. And right now, there's all anxiety in China because over these past 10 years, there's been growing repression in China, especially against the financial elite. So the classic case is Jack Ma.

• 40:35Danny Jones?

  Who's he?

• 40:35Speaker 05

  Jack Ma used to be China's wealthiest person and he, he runs a company called Alibaba.

• 40:42Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 40:44Speaker 05

  And he's pretty famous here, here in the United States.

• 40:46Danny Jones?

  Oh, this guy?

• 40:47Speaker 05

  Yep, Jack Ma, right? And he's the poster boy for Chinese entrepreneurship. He's, he was a rock star in China for the longest time. And he really thought he was untouchable because he represented Chinese entrepreneurship. And at this time, and this like, you know, about, I've got the year, but maybe 2016, 2017, the Chinese economy was considered what legitimized the Communist Party. So the Communist Party had to ensure the entrepreneurs

• 41:24Speaker 05

  were happy. And he was the poster boy of entrepreneurship. So he started to be arrogant and then they shut him down.

• 41:34Danny Jones?

  He's like the Jeff Bezos of China.

• 41:36Speaker 05

  That's right, that's right. And you can't touch Jeff Bezos in the United States, right?

• 41:39Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 41:40Speaker 05

  Right? Donald Trump cannot call Jeff Bezos in the White House and says, hey, Jeff, you've been, you've been naughty recently and we're gonna have to teach you a lesson.

• 41:51Danny Jones?

  Naughty, naughty.

• 41:51Speaker 05

  You've been naughty, right? You can't do that.

• 41:53Danny Jones?

  No. Jeff's gonna hop on the yacht and he'll be out of town in no time.

• 41:56Speaker 05

  Exactly. Right? So, so they did that to Jack Ma, they sanctioned him. And ever since, Chinese entrepreneurship has been very afraid.

• 42:05Danny Jones?

  They sanctioned him?

• 42:06Speaker 05

  Yes, yes.

• 42:08Danny Jones?

  So he doesn't have, he didn't have a, I mean, if I'm him and I'm the richest dude in China.

• 42:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:14Danny Jones?

  I would be doing everything I can to diversify my wealth out of China, right?

• 42:21Speaker 05

  Yes, but.

• 42:21Danny Jones?

  To where if China sanctioned my money, my Chinese bank accounts, I'm fine.

• 42:26Speaker 05

  That's right. And so a lot of entrepreneurs are doing that. The problem is that within each Chinese company is a Communist Party cell that monitors the activities of this company.

• 42:40Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 42:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:42Danny Jones?

  So what ended up happening to Jack Ma?

• 42:45Speaker 05

  Jack Ma moved to Japan and he's basically retired. Yeah. Yeah. He's still rich, but he's not as powerful as he used to be.

• 42:53Danny Jones?

  So what is the current?

• 42:57Danny Jones?

  Um, state of affairs with Xi Jinping. Where do you think uh he is gonna end up in the near to mid future? As far as like, um, how much support does he have? From the people, from the people around him, the powerful people around him in the government? Is there any sort of like opposition against him right now? Or and then also, what is his whole view? And this is getting too complicated, but what is his whole view on like? Everything else that's happening with the US and all this stuff?

• 43:34Speaker 05

  Right, okay, uh, that's a great question, uh, but it's a very complicated question.

• 43:38Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 43:38Speaker 05

  Okay, so I I need to explain to you how this Chinese system works first. Okay, so the year is nineteen forty nine and the Communist Party comes into power. Mao Zedong is the leader and there's tremendous jubilation um and joy. That the Communist Party has come into power because they promise a socialist paradise. They promise work worker rights, um, they wanna modernize, industrialize the economy. Okay, so there are millions of overseas Chinese um who've who returned to China to help build China.

• 44:16Speaker 05

  And but over time, there is a split between Mao Zedong, the supreme leader, and the Chinese Communist Party elite.

• 44:25Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 44:26Speaker 05

  Um, Mao Zedong wants a new China that is focused on equality, on um worker rights. But the revolutionary elite, uh, his comrades, they want a more bureaucratic China. And Mao Zedong believed that uh if you had a bureaucratic China, you know, a nation run by bureaucrats, China would end up being corrupt because China has been a bureaucratic state for the past five thousand years. And throughout this time, it was very corrupt, meaning you had an elite that exploited the people. And um, the phrase that I would use to describe China is a plantation economy.

• 45:10Speaker 05

  It's a slave society, right? Where um you have landlords and everyone else is a peasant and they're working their ass off in order

• 45:19Speaker 05

  so that the landlord can play mahjong every day. And and and over time, um, this leads to famine and peasant rebellions. Okay, so Mao wanted to create a new China. And and so he launched a cultural revolution and the main purpose of the cultural revolution was destroy the bureaucratic elite to go after the revolutionary elite, the the people he came into power with.

• 45:43Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 45:44Speaker 05

  He died before the revolution was completed. And so these the old guard came together and says, screw this, we're never going through uh this again. We will not allow another man like Mao Zedong to come into power. And we will never allow for the people to rise up again, again, up against us. Okay, so they created collective leadership under Deng Xiaoping. And they created essentially the fundamentals of a plantation economy where the majority stakeholders would be these red nobility, these families that came into power because of because of a revolution. Over time, this is really important, many members of the red nobility

• 46:27Speaker 05

  moved to the United States for education and for work. Okay, so the people who run China are not actually in China, they're actually in the United States. And they are inconspicuous, you don't know who they are. The State Department knows who they are, the State Department keeps very close track of these people. And there's like tens of thousands of them um scattered throughout the world, um, primarily in the United States. And China is essentially their plantation. It's no different from like these British aristocrats who had circumplantations back in the Caribbean. Okay, it's the same concept.

• 47:02Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 47:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, okay, so that's the very structure of the Chinese system. Now, um, after Deng Xiaoping died, you had a new set of leaders who came into power. And these were technocrats, people like Jiang Zemin, Zhu Rongji, Hu Jintao, Wen Jiaobao. And they ran China for.

• 47:21Danny Jones?

  What year are we talking?

• 47:21Speaker 05

  So uh Deng Xiaoping died in about nine ninety seven.

• 47:25Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 47:25Speaker 05

  Uh, and then Zhu Rongji and um Jiang Zemin came in power in about ninety eight. Okay, and they established a technocracy. And the best way to understand a technocracy is um building a middle class, right? So you have this revolutionary elite that are the stakeholders of China. They have the real power because they control the military. Okay, these are these are military families, they control the guns, okay? And then the compromise is let's create a middle class to interface with the global economy. Right, you because these multinational are coming in and you need um economists, you need uh professionals, you need managers. And um they helped the Chinese economy to boom.

• 48:08Speaker 05

  And um, and this was good, but at the same time, it was causing a lot of conflict and contradiction in China because it was leading to a lot of inequality, it was leading to a lot, a lot to corruption, it was creating a lot of debt. Okay, and the problem with working with the United States is Wall Street wanted China to liberalize its financial system. And what that means, it's very simple, is Chinese household um households save more money than anyone else in the world. They save forty percent of their income. Wall Street wanted access to this capital to invest, to speculate.

• 48:50Speaker 05

  Okay, they wanted um access to the Chinese financial system.

• 48:54Danny Jones?

  They wanted people to invest in US companies.

• 48:56Speaker 05

  And US stocks.

• 48:57Danny Jones?

  In US stocks.

• 48:58Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 48:59Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 48:59Speaker 05

  They want to liberalize the Chinese financial system. And um, the Chinese didn't want to do that because you, as you can imagine, if the Chinese had an option of investing in US companies, all the money in China would flow out of China in the United States.

• 49:17Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 49:17Speaker 05

  And China would go bankrupt. So President Xi Jinping was brought into power to um

• 49:27Speaker 05

  basically get rid of the cooperation between Wall Street and the middle class to nationalize China again, right? To.

• 49:34Danny Jones?

  Oh, so there at one point was this cooperation?

• 49:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, between Wall Street and.

• 49:38Danny Jones?

  So people at one point were allowed to invest in Wall Street stocks and companies?

• 49:44Speaker 05

  So um, it didn't get to that point.

• 49:47Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 49:47Speaker 05

  But the but the but a lot of the um ingredients were already in place for this to happen. Meaning um, Wall Street had a huge presence in China, Wall Street had joint ventures with Chinese financial companies. A lot of Chinese middle class people were moving to the United States and getting education.

• 50:05Danny Jones?

  Now, is there any argument to be made that that would be a good thing for China?

• 50:10Speaker 05

  Sorry, that, no, you're good, that's a very sensitive question.

• 50:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, okay.

• 50:15Danny Jones?

  Sorry, I hit a nerve.

• 50:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, sorry, you shook me there, right? I I don't know how to go tell back my superiors in Beijing, uh, but no, um. The argument is that the middle class is what drives democracy and what drives innovation in China. They are what um is called the creative class. And in a global economy, whichever nation state has the most creative class will win out. Because.

• 50:44Danny Jones?

  In a global economy, say that one more time, in a global economy.

• 50:47Speaker 05

  In a globalized economy, the nation state that has the most creative class.

• 50:52Danny Jones?

  Uh huh.

• 50:52Speaker 05

  Will win out.

• 50:54Danny Jones?

  Why?

• 50:55Speaker 05

  Because um what drives the global economy is human knowledge, right? So um, before maybe resources drove the economy. But now it's really about uh a nation state's capacity to produce knowledge, soft power, basically. So if they're able to create really good AI, that would that would control the world economy, right? But to have really good AI, artificial intelligence, you need um a very vibrant middle class.

• 51:32Speaker 05

  Right, so nation states are competing for human capital.

• 51:36Danny Jones?

  Got it.

• 51:37Speaker 05

  Okay, so if you want human capital, you need democracy, you need.

• 51:44Danny Jones?

  Talk about like, is this similar to what you're saying?

• 51:49Danny Jones?

  Would this be equivalent to like innovation? That'd be a good word to use.

• 51:51Speaker 05

  Exactly. If you want to drive innovation, you need a middle class.

• 51:54Danny Jones?

  Got it.

• 51:55Speaker 05

  Okay, but this middle class also has to be cosmopolitan and liberal and forward looking. So there's a book, there's a book by Richard Florida called The Rise of the Creative Class.

• 52:07Danny Jones?

  The Rise of the Creative Class.

• 52:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, by Richard Florida. And in it, he argues

• 52:13Speaker 05

  that the most creative people are drawn to cities that are the most open minded. And he calls this the gay index. Okay, so cities with the highest proportion of gay people tend to be the most creative. He refers to places like San Francisco, Austin, Texas. And what he argues is it's these cities that will ultimately drive the global economy. So the argument is if China really wants to overtake the United States, it needs a creative class and therefore it needs to liberalize not only its economy,

• 52:52Speaker 05

  but its society. And the Red Nobility and President Xi Jinping said, we don't want that. Right? Because it's a plantation economy.

• 53:02Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 53:02Speaker 05

  Right? We just want to be able to extract value from the people. We don't want the people to be creative. Because if they're creative, that means they will want to overthrow the government.

• 53:12Speaker 05

  Right?

• 53:13Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 53:14Speaker 05

  So, so there was this contradiction. Did you want innovation or did you want control? And they said, no, we prefer control. President Xi was brought in power in order to exert control over the economy.

• 53:27Danny Jones?

  Got it.

• 53:28Speaker 05

  Yeah. And the classic example is COVID. Because I was actually in China when COVID happened.

• 53:34Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 53:34Speaker 05

  Yeah. So in 2003, I was in China during SARS and I was in Beijing. And SARS was the best time of my life because like for two weeks, everyone just stayed in their apartment. And I could just go out and drink beer and like the entire city was mine. It was like paradise.

• 53:51Danny Jones?

  You weren't scared.

• 53:52Speaker 05

  I wasn't scared because everyone was at home.

• 53:54Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 53:54Speaker 05

  Right? So like, like it's, it's an infectious disease. Are you better off in an apartment with like thousands of other people off the apartments?

• 54:02Danny Jones?

  Right, right, right.

• 54:03Speaker 05

  And regulation is bad? Or are you better off outside drinking beer? You're probably better off outside drinking beer, right? So I thought, I thought it was a great time. And then COVID happens in this year 2021.

• 54:18Speaker 05

  And I thought, same thing, man. But it was the complete opposite. And what I believe, because I, because you know, by 2021, I, I was in China for a long, long time. And I believe the main paradigm was economic growth at all costs. We didn't care what we had to do.

• 54:35Danny Jones?

  What kind of growth?

• 54:36Speaker 05

  Economic growth at all costs. Right? We're going to grow the economy no matter what it takes.

• 54:42Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 54:42Speaker 05

  Because that's the source of our legitimacy. But during COVID, they completely upended that. It was a paradigm shift. And I didn't think that was possible. But during COVID, entrepreneurs were no, were no longer able to go to the factories. Factories closed now. The real estate market tanked during COVID. The economy was basically destroyed and it's never really recovered. And I'm like, why would they do that? Why would they intentionally implode the Chinese economy?

• 55:11Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 55:12Speaker 05

  And the answer is they wanted control, not innovation. It's a plantation economy. They wanted to exert control over the economy.

• 55:24Danny Jones?

  Even if it meant the entire economy collapses?

• 55:27Speaker 05

  Yes. Yes. Because they did not like the direction the economy was going.

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• 56:52Speaker 05

  That's a state secret, man. Yeah, that would, that would get me killed.

• 56:56Danny Jones?

  None of that, none of that stuff is public? They don't, they don't, I mean, I'm sure they made some sort of claims, right? Even though if it's true or not, there's got to be some sort of statements on it, no?

• 57:06Speaker 05

  I think it was a lot higher than is public knowledge.

• 57:09Danny Jones?

  Right. I would, I would assume that.

• 57:11Speaker 05

  But that is a state secret. Yeah.

• 57:15Speaker 05

  COVID is probably the most sensitive topic right now in China.

• 57:17Danny Jones?

  Still to this day.

• 57:18Speaker 05

  Yeah. How it started, government policies, how many people died, why they ultimately decided to lift restrictions. It's all state secret. It's really, it's really interesting because if you go to China, one thing that you'll discover about China is that it has no memory. It's a really interesting place. But if you talk to people about the 1980s, they don't remember anything from 1980s. It's really strange. And the reason why is an authoritarian nation state, memory has to be curated.

• 57:49Danny Jones?

  Right, right, right, right. History class has to be very.

• 57:53Speaker 05

  Exactly. Right. So you're not allowed to have your own memory. You're only allowed.

• 57:58Danny Jones?

  Here's how many people Mao killed, okay?

• 58:02Danny Jones?

  You don't want to tell them that, right?

• 58:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 58:04Danny Jones?

  Or is it, is it like that? Do they tell them like the truth about Mao?

• 58:08Speaker 05

  No.

• 58:10Danny Jones?

  This is what I found.

• 58:13Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's probably not true anyways.

• 58:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 58:17Danny Jones?

  Okay, what, what, the back end of that question I was asking you is

• 58:22Danny Jones?

  how much support does Xi have right now in, in China? And, and what do you think? Do you think?

• 58:31Danny Jones?

  What do you think Xi's view of the geopolitical landscape is?

• 58:35Speaker 05

  Okay, so, all right, so let's continue this narrative, okay? So I've, I've already established that China is a plantation economy. And the majority stakeholders actually overseas. And what they're interested in is that innovation, because innovation, innovation does not help them. They're only interested in stability and control. Right? Because these are the people who control the hospitals, the power plants, the infrastructure, the telecommunications network. So as long as the nation state is stable, they're able to extract value. But with innovation, a lot of innovation, the profits from innovation would go to the middle class,

• 59:14Speaker 05

  to people like Jack Ma. And then they could present a threat to the control of the Communist Party.

• 59:21Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 59:21Speaker 05

  Okay, so they don't want innovation, they want control. That's, that's part one. Part two is within China, even within the Red Nobility, there are many different political factions. And these political factions are fighting over control of the country. And you know, we can argue about how many factions there are, but there's quite a few. And so what is generally agreed is there has to be a strong man at the top to give the appearance of authoritarianism. And then these factions fight amongst themselves for the spoils. And what they agree on is

• 1:00:03Speaker 05

  right now President Xi is the only possible strong man for China. There can be no alternative to him. There's no successor to him. There's no succession plan in place.

• 1:00:17Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:00:18Speaker 05

  So he is really the front man, the strong man for the system. But the problem with this is he has actually very little control over China.

• 1:00:32Speaker 05

  He's an emperor of no close. It's the factions, the Red Nobility that have control.

• 1:00:37Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 1:00:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:00:39Danny Jones?

  Uh, and what is his view of, or what, what, what do you think? His view and or strategy is right now on the world stage?

• 1:00:50Speaker 05

  He has absolutely no strategy.

• 1:00:52Danny Jones?

  No strategy?

• 1:00:52Speaker 05

  No strategy. So, um, I think, um, maybe seven, eight years ago, many American journalists were kicked out of China. New York Times, Washington Post, Washington Journal, they were kicked out of China. So ever since then, China's essentially become a black box. There's very little reporting about China. And if you think about it, um, that doesn't really impact the world. I mean, Russia matters in the world. Iran matters. Israel matters a lot. But China doesn't really matter. And the reason why China doesn't really matter is it doesn't seem to have a

• 1:01:32Speaker 05

  concrete foreign policy. It doesn't seem to have a grand vision for the, the world. For China, what matters is peace and trade, right? Let's just trade peacefully with everyone. And China's not actually trying to, trying to expand its borders. It's not actually trying to influence other nations. Um, and the example is, um, the Ukraine war and the Iran war. The Ukraine, in the Ukraine war, it was expected that China would support Russia because President Xi and President Putin are good friends. But if you actually-

• 1:02:09Danny Jones?

  Well, but the, the theory was that would push them even closer, right?

• 1:02:12Speaker 05

  But that, but that's not what happened. Um, in fact, if you look at Chinese companies, for the most part, they've respected US sanctions against Russia, for the most part. And China doesn't really talk about the war in Ukraine. Like, when I was in China during all this time, no one talked about the war in Ukraine. In fact, if people were to talk about it, they would say that Russia is the aggressor and Putin is the wrong-

• 1:02:36Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:02:37Speaker 05

  Yes. There was no propaganda push by the Chinese state to promote the war in Ukraine. China was very neutral.

• 1:02:46Danny Jones?

  What is like the sentiment of normal, everyday Chinese people, uh, about the United States?

• 1:02:55Speaker 05

  Most people like the United States a lot. And the reason why is American soft, soft power is really powerful. These are people who grew up watching Hollywood movies, right? They, they watch Friends. Um, they watch Seinfeld. They love America. Even today, um, you know, if you were to go to China, lots of Chinese would come up to you and ask you, are you American? And they would ask, keep on asking you questions. They would, they would want to become your friend. Right? But, but as you can appreciate, if you're American, you go to other places, you wouldn't get that reaction.

• 1:03:26Danny Jones?

  No.

• 1:03:27Speaker 05

  Right? So it's really strange in that there's this trade war going on between the United States and China. But at a people-to-people level, the Chinese people are extremely, have really strong impressions of, of Americans. They, they like Americans a lot. There's a strong affinity between Chinese and Americans.

• 1:03:42Danny Jones?

  That's wild.

• 1:03:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:03:44Danny Jones?

  It seems to me like, you know, China is being very rational in playing out this long game of the, this tug of war between all these nation-states right now. And it's trying to be quiet, keep its head down, play the long game, and it's learned from all the mistakes of the United States and, uh, other countries that, you know, it's not the greatest idea to go, you know, run around the world waving your gun around and overthrowing governments and all this stuff. Uh, it, it seems like they are being practical for,

• 1:04:23Danny Jones?

  lack of a better word, and playing the long game throughout all this. And you don't think that's, that's by intention? You don't think that's by design?

• 1:04:29Speaker 05

  I don't think, I, I think that's not by design. I think the Chinese system has become extremely bureaucratic, very ossified, and, uh, there's really no one in control. It lacks the capacity to make, um, critical decisions. Right? So President Xi is not President Putin. President Putin can by himself declare war against Ukraine. President Trump can by himself declare war against Iran. President Xi cannot declare war against anyone. The system won't, won't, won't, won't allow it.

• 1:05:07Danny Jones?

  Well, one of the things that's interesting is, is there's been reporting on this conflict or this threat for them to take Taiwan.

• 1:05:15Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:05:15Danny Jones?

  Right?

• 1:05:16Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:05:16Danny Jones?

  And I've had, you know, people, your friend Andrew Bustamante, Bustamante.

• 1:05:21Speaker 05

  Well, we're best friends.

• 1:05:22Danny Jones?

  You're a good friend, yeah. I don't know how you guys know each other, but you guys, you guys met somewhere.

• 1:05:27Speaker 05

  Went to school together.

• 1:05:28Danny Jones?

  We'll let the commenters try to figure that one out.

• 1:05:31Danny Jones?

  He, he's been on here speculating that I think he, I think he tried to, he predicted on this show one time that, that China would take Ukraine by force.

• 1:05:42Speaker 05

  Oh, you're talking Taiwan?

• 1:05:43Danny Jones?

  I, that's, I'm sorry, Taiwan, yeah.

• 1:05:44Speaker 05

  Right, right, okay. Because Ukraine's kind of far away.

• 1:05:46Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. He predicted that China would take Taiwan by force. Um, I think sometime before 2025.

• 1:05:55Danny Jones?

  That obviously didn't come true. What it seems like now is there's more of a diplomatic thing going on where one of the parties in Taiwan is, seems to be visiting China, and it's like they're, they're working together now.

• 1:06:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's right. Okay, so some background, okay? So in Taiwan, there are two main political parties. There's the Democratic Progressive Party, which is now currently in power. And then there's the opposition party, uh, the KMT, uh, the Kuomintang. And the new leader of the Kuomintang is this very charismatic, um, woman named Chiang Lee Wen. And she's very forceful. She's very tall. I'm, I'm, I'm sure if you've seen pictures of her, but she's very tall.

• 1:06:36Danny Jones?

  What's her, how, how, what's her name?

• 1:06:37Speaker 05

  Uh, Chiang Lee Wen. But, but you, you, but you can just Google Taiwan KMT leader.

• 1:06:41Danny Jones?

  Okay, Taiwan KMT leader.

• 1:06:42Speaker 05

  Yeah. And, um, she, she recently went to China and she was met by President Xi Jinping. And they had a very good conversation, and she's very much, uh, in favor of strong relations between China, yeah, that's who she is, between China and Taiwan.

• 1:07:01Danny Jones?

  Get us a full body shot, Steve.

• 1:07:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, and like you can see how tall she is. She's as tall as President Xi Jinping.

• 1:07:06Danny Jones?

  Wow, look at that.

• 1:07:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, so she's, she's a very forceful personality.

• 1:07:10Danny Jones?

  All right.

• 1:07:11Speaker 05

  And, um, she was educated in the United States, so she knows the US system very well. Okay, so she will probably be the future leader of, um, Taiwan. But her argument is very, very simple. Look, if you look at China and Taiwan, there's no reason for any animosity between these two, uh, places. There's about like, you know, um, um, half a million Taiwanese in Suzhou, just, just in one city, Suzhou, doing business there. You've got millions-

• 1:07:45Danny Jones?

  Suzhou's a city in China?

• 1:07:46Speaker 05

  That's right. It, it's right beside Shanghai.

• 1:07:48Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:07:48Speaker 05

  And you've got millions of Taiwanese going to China to do business every single year. Taiwan's only a population of 20 million people.

• 1:07:56Speaker 05

  The trade between Taiwan and China is growing rapidly. Um, right now, um, as the global economy, um, sinks, then Taiwan will probably become even more dependent on China. If you're a Taiwanese person, all you want is a good standard of living. You don't, you're not interested in independence because what does independence get you? Right? So just over time, what's gonna happen is Taiwan and China will just reunify peacefully over time. I'm talking, talking over like the next 10, 20 years. Right? And so what China can do is use economic carrots to lure Taiwan back in.

• 1:08:34Speaker 05

  And again, like, you know, if I'm offering, um, Taiwanese security as well as double their current income, I think the majority would take this deal, right? Okay, so that I think is China and Taiwan. And also, I will also point out that if I'm Donald Trump, I would encourage Taiwan and China to reunify. Do you know why? Because my main, because my main problem is Taiwan controls the semiconductor industry. Right? They manufacture most of the world's semiconductors. If Taiwan and China were to unify,

• 1:09:18Speaker 05

  I guarantee you the entire semiconductor industry in Taiwan would move over to the United States.

• 1:09:25Danny Jones?

  Why?

• 1:09:26Speaker 05

  Because, um, as a semiconductor, um, manufacturer, I need to integrate with the global economy. Right? So if I'm the United States, it's a lot, like, like I can be secure in the knowledge that I'm still part of the global supply chain.

• 1:09:43Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 1:09:44Speaker 05

  If I'm part of China now, they can basically use me as a point of leverage, like, like China's using rare herbs, right? So it's basically reunification would force, uh, these Taiwanese semiconductor companies to move to the United States. In fact, it's already happening. So TSMC has opened a plant in Arizona. I think it's like $20 billion.

• 1:10:06Danny Jones?

  Really? When was this?

• 1:10:07Speaker 05

  I, I think this was like a year ago. Can, can, can you, can you?

• 1:10:10Danny Jones?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:10:10Speaker 05

  Can you Google this? TSMC?

• 1:10:12Danny Jones?

  TSMC?

• 1:10:13Speaker 05

  Arizona plant.

• 1:10:14Danny Jones?

  Semiconductor plant?

• 1:10:15Speaker 05

  Yeah. So TSMC is the largest-

• 1:10:18Danny Jones?

  And it's owned by?

• 1:10:19Speaker 05

  The Taiwanese.

• 1:10:20Danny Jones?

  The Taiwanese.

• 1:10:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's a private company, but, but it, it's based in Taiwan. And, and they're trying to move operations to Arizona.

• 1:10:26Danny Jones?

  And they want to manufacture there?

• 1:10:29Danny Jones?

  That's funny. So we're manufacturing everything in China and China's manufacturing shit in the United States.

• 1:10:33Speaker 05

  Right, okay.

• 1:10:35Danny Jones?

  TSMC Arizona started high-volume production in its first fabrication plant, uh, Fab 21 in Phoenix. And the company recently expanded its total plant investment in the region to 265 billion?

• 1:10:49Speaker 05

  Yeah. So I, so, so yeah, it's not 20, 20 billion, it's, yeah.

• 1:10:55Speaker 05

  But you can see it's already happening, right? So if I'm Trump, I'm like, go ahead, reunify, okay? But, but, but here's the kicker. Reunification is impossible. And the reason why is Japan, okay? All right, so China, so it's not, the issue is not China invading Taiwan. The issue is not the United States blocking the reunification. It's Japan would not allow reunification to happen.

• 1:11:20Danny Jones?

  What could Japan do to stop it?

• 1:11:22Speaker 05

  Okay, so let me explain why Japan would not be, would not go for this. So, um, the new Prime Minister Takeuchi has said that Taiwan is core to Japan's national security interests. And there's a really good reason why, okay? So I'm, I'm, I'm gonna draw your map, all right?

• 1:11:40Danny Jones?

  Steve can pull one up here if you want.

• 1:11:41Speaker 05

  Okay, could you have a map of Taiwan and Southeast Asia and Japan?

• 1:11:46Danny Jones?

  We should have, we should have brought him a, a whiteboard like that, uh, the CEO diary guy.

• 1:11:51Speaker 06

  Yeah, okay. Oops, that was the wrong button. Where's?

• 1:11:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, just go to map.

• 1:11:56Danny Jones?

  Maps?

• 1:11:56Speaker 05

  Okay. If you see a map, okay?

• 1:11:59Danny Jones?

  Just click on the, yeah, there you go.

• 1:12:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, can, can you just draw it out? Uh, can you just zoom out for me? Okay, all right.

• 1:12:03Danny Jones?

  Get rid of that sidebar. Click the little arrow in the middle. Yeah, right there.

• 1:12:06Speaker 05

  Okay, all right, guy. All right, so you see Japan at the top, right?

• 1:12:11Danny Jones?

  Where's Japan? Right there, that's right there, I got it, I see it.

• 1:12:14Speaker 05

  So Japan is resource poor. And traditionally, Southeast Asia is what supplies Japan with most of its resources.

• 1:12:23Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:12:23Speaker 05

  Oil, food, all that, okay? So Japan has very little resources. Um, historically, it's, it's engaged in piracy. Um, recently, it's engaged in, um, resource extraction from Southeast Asia, okay? So Japan needs Southeast Asia. What's between Japan and Southeast Asia?

• 1:12:42Danny Jones?

  The East China Sea.

• 1:12:44Speaker 05

  What's in the East China Sea?

• 1:12:46Danny Jones?

  Uh.

• 1:12:47Speaker 05

  Taiwan.

• 1:12:48Danny Jones?

  Oh, it's right in the middle.

• 1:12:50Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 1:12:50Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:12:51Speaker 05

  So what would happen is if Taiwan and China were to unify, China could use Taiwan to embargo Japan from Southeast Asia. And China could now go to colonize Southeast Asia. Do you see? And then Japan would be completely and utterly screwed for all, for, it, it would cease to exist as a nation state.

• 1:13:13Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 1:13:15Speaker 05

  Right, you see that?

• 1:13:16Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah, I can see it now.

• 1:13:18Speaker 05

  Yeah. So Japan needs access to Southeast Asia for its resources. Taiwan would block that access.

• 1:13:24Danny Jones?

  Can you, can you show me on this? Like, what, what do you consider Southeast Asia here?

• 1:13:29Speaker 05

  All right, so you see?

• 1:13:30Danny Jones?

  It's hard to see the, the, it's hard to see the borders and the boundaries.

• 1:13:33Speaker 05

  Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, uh, Malaysia, Indonesia, that's Southeast Asia.

• 1:13:40Speaker 06

  All of this.

• 1:13:40Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:13:41Danny Jones?

  That whole area is Southeast Asia.

• 1:13:43Speaker 05

  Right, and you can see how Taiwan blocks access.

• 1:13:47Danny Jones?

  So if China now owns Taiwan, you're saying that China will be able to, like, charge a tax to everything that goes to Japan?

• 1:13:58Speaker 05

  No, no, what would happen is China would then go into Southeast Asia to colonize it. And if that would have happened, Japan would lose.

• 1:14:06Danny Jones?

  But why would they be able to colonize all of Southeast Asia just because they have that Taiwan?

• 1:14:10Speaker 05

  Uh, so if Taiwan were not part of the picture, Japan and China work, were to compete for influence in Southeast Asia, okay? Does that make sense?

• 1:14:21Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 1:14:22Speaker 05

  Okay? The problem is Japan has a far greater influence over Southeast Asia than China, because Japan has soft power, it has NMA. It has, like, like, Southeast Asians, like, if you just look at polling, Southeast Asians have a very high, uh...

• 1:14:41Danny Jones?

  They like Japan.

• 1:14:42Speaker 05

  They like Japan a lot.

• 1:14:43Danny Jones?

  Japan does better, yeah. They, they got a better PR team.

• 1:14:47Speaker 05

  Right, so you're like, Vietnam, you're like, um, you know, do I want to work with China more? Or do I want to work with Japan more? Well, obviously, Japan, because China is this big dragon, right?

• 1:14:57Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:14:58Speaker 05

  Okay? And so if China were to take over Taiwan, then Taiwan could embargo Japan, and then China can just, like, very easily move into Southeast Asia.

• 1:15:11Danny Jones?

  Hmm, that makes sense.

• 1:15:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:15:14Danny Jones?

  How could Japan possibly stop that from happening?

• 1:15:17Speaker 05

  Um, well, what's happening right now is Japan is building an alliance. It's called a Quad, okay? And the Quad has, is four, four nations. You have Japan.

• 1:15:28Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:15:29Speaker 05

  You have the Philippines, you have Australia, and you have India. This is, this is called a Quad.

• 1:15:34Danny Jones?

  Japan, the Philippines, Australia, and Indonesia.

• 1:15:38Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:15:38Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:15:39Speaker 05

  And the goal...

• 1:15:41Danny Jones?

  Go, scoot down a little bit? Zoom out a little bit?

• 1:15:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, right, so that's a Quad, right?

• 1:15:46Danny Jones?

  There you go, right there, perfect, got it.

• 1:15:47Speaker 05

  So what's a Quad doing? A Quad is embargoing China from the open sea lanes. Right, do you see that?

• 1:15:53Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:15:54Speaker 05

  Yes, the Philippines, Japan, India, and Australia together can embargo China from, uh, oceanic trade.

• 1:16:04Danny Jones?

  Okay, they could if they wanted to.

• 1:16:05Speaker 05

  They could if they wanted, exactly. Right, do you, you see that?

• 1:16:08Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 1:16:09Speaker 05

  Okay, so that's, that's the game plan.

• 1:16:11Danny Jones?

  So if China tried to take Taiwan, you believe that, uh, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Australia would all gang up with Japan?

• 1:16:24Speaker 05

  India, India. The Philippines, Australia, and Japan are the Quad. These are the four nations, India.

• 1:16:33Danny Jones?

  Okay, so they would all group up and they would push back against this?

• 1:16:38Speaker 05

  That's right, that's right. And already, what's happening is the Philippines are challenging Chinese control over the South China Sea. So there's been a lot of conflicts between the Filipino Coast Guard and the Chinese Coast Guard.

• 1:16:51Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 1:16:52Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:16:54Danny Jones?

  So you, you kind of explain this in, um, this general idea of how, I forget which one of your video, but you did a great video, one of your presentations, explains how, I think it was how evil triumphs? You explain how this, this arms race of teaming up with other nations.

• 1:17:16Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 1:17:17Danny Jones?

  Right? Can you give it like a high level view of like, I mean, that, that's similar to what you're explaining here, right? To where like, two nations team up to gain more power and influence, and that incentivizes three other nations to do the same thing, to get more power over there, of, you know, more power compared to the other two. And it's just a never-ending thing where people are constantly in this tug of war for power and control and see who has the most friends.

• 1:17:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, so China is a lot of, China is actually in a lot of danger and trouble. And the reason why is everyone in Southeast Asia sees China as the main threat. So they're more likely to team together against China than China trying to ally, ally with other nations. So like, if you look at, uh, if we go to the map, okay? And this is really important. China has exactly one friend in Southeast Asia, and it's North Korea. Right? That's it.

• 1:18:20Speaker 05

  Right, and the reason why is every other nation...

• 1:18:22Danny Jones?

  This map is hard for me to see because I don't like the, I don't like the borders. I don't, I can't really see the borders very well.

• 1:18:27Speaker 05

  But, but like, you, you know, if you zoom into...

• 1:18:29Danny Jones?

  There it is, right there.

• 1:18:29Speaker 05

  If you, yeah, if you zoom into, um, East Asia, China has exactly one ally, and that's North Korea. South Korea, Japan, Southeast Asia, India, Australia, they all see China as a ma- major threat that they have to team up against. Especially now that the United States is choosing to leave the, um, uh, Asia-Pacific, right? This is part of Trump's, um, grand strategy, where the United States leaves, um, Asia-Pacific and arms Japan in challenging China.

• 1:19:04Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:19:05Speaker 05

  Yep, that's part, part of, um, the grand strategy.

• 1:19:09Danny Jones?

  And North Korea, are they, they're also allies with Russia, right?

• 1:19:15Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 1:19:15Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:16Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:19:18Danny Jones?

  Um, quick pause, I gotta use the restroom.

• 1:19:21Speaker 05

  Okay, yeah, sure.

• 1:19:21Danny Jones?

  We'll be right back. But you were telling me last night that this basically all ties back, everything that's happening on the entire landscape of American foreign policy all ties back to this Shabat Lubavich stuff.

• 1:19:33Speaker 05

  That's right. Yeah, it's crazy.

• 1:19:36Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's insane, it's absolutely insane. It almost seems too simple of an explanation.

• 1:19:41Speaker 05

  That's right, that's right. But, um, what I want to do is maybe just show you some videos. Some YouTube videos. And then, um, we're just gonna focus on facts, okay? What is verifiable? Uh, what we can Google? What, um, we can...

• 1:20:04Speaker 05

  Have, what we're gonna show on YouTube.

• 1:20:10Speaker 05

  And so, the first thing I wanna talk about is the Clean Brick Memo.

• 1:20:17Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:20:18Speaker 05

  Nineteen ninety-six, okay?

• 1:20:21Speaker 05

  And the Clean Brick Memo.

• 1:20:25Danny Jones?

  We should have put a camera that looks down on his notepad, Steve.

• 1:20:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, I mean, it's just easier for him to keep track of what I'm saying.

• 1:20:33Danny Jones?

  No, it's fine.

• 1:20:33Speaker 05

  It's very convoluted.

• 1:20:34Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:20:34Speaker 05

  Right, the story I'm telling you.

• 1:20:35Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:20:36Speaker 05

  So nineteen ninety-six, there's a study group composed of certain individuals. And the two most prominent are Richard Pearl and Douglas Fife, okay? And they write a memo for the incoming Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu. He just won election. And what they argue is that Netanyahu has to break away from traditional Israeli political thinking. Okay, and there are two facets to this political thinking. The first is that Israel needs to be a socialist state.

• 1:21:18Speaker 05

  So the main political party at this time are the Labor Zionists. And the Clean Brick Memo says, no, you have to embrace neoliberalism. You have to embrace economic reform, you have to embrace innovation. The second thing that's much important is, for the longest time, the Israelis believed that the only way to guarantee the long-term security of Israel is to come to peace with the Arab nations around them. And to do that, you need to resolve the Palestinian issue. You need to give the Palestinians their own state, the two-state solution. And Isaac Rabin, who was previously the Prime Minister before he got assassinated, he worked with Bill Clinton to implement the Oslo Peace Process.

• 1:22:01Speaker 05

  And Arafat was involved as well. But this was just how people understood, like, if there is to be peace in the Middle East, there has to be compromise. The Palestinians, the Arab nations, they have to be respected, okay? But the Clean Brick Memo was like, no, that's not how these things work in the Middle East. These people only respect power. So you have to show them strength. You have to bully them before they can respect you. And once Israel shows that it's strong, then the Palestinians will cower. They will obey the Israelis, and this will bring peace to the Middle East.

• 1:22:42Speaker 05

  And they also argue, what ultimately brings peace is balance of power. So we need to alter the landscape of the Middle East so that Israel is a dominant nation and Israel is able to balance out other nations, okay? So this memo calls for regime change in Iraq as well as Syria. In fact, what's really interesting is, in nineteen ninety-six, Israel says that what will happen is, we will divide Syria with Turkey. Turkey will split up Syria with Israel. Turkey will attack from the north and will attack from the south. That's exactly what happened last year, if you remember.

• 1:23:28Speaker 05

  ISIS, the proxy for Turkey, comes in from the north, and then they overthrow Syria.

• 1:23:35Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:23:35Speaker 05

  Okay, so it's really interesting how this memo written in nineteen ninety-six is able to foretell all these events, because you have regime change in Iraq and also regime change in Syria to create balance of power. Now, was it important that this memo was written by Richard Pearl and Douglas Fife? Because these two individuals will then go on the Bush administration, and they'll become the chief architects of the Iraq War.

• 1:24:00Danny Jones?

  Where did Richard Pearl and Douglas Fife come from?

• 1:24:03Speaker 05

  Richard Pearl and Douglas Fife all used to work for a senator called Henry Scoop Jackson.

• 1:24:10Danny Jones?

  Henry Scoop Jackson.

• 1:24:11Speaker 05

  Right. And all the neocons, Wolfowitz, Fife, and Pearl, all used to work for this guy. Henry Jackson was a senator from Washington State. And he advocated for the Soviet Union to allow Jews to immigrate to Israel. In fact, he said that any precondition, and this is in nineteen seventies, right, at the height of the Cold War, any precondition for peace between the United States and the Soviet Union had to be the Soviet Union agree to let Jews immigrate to Israel.

• 1:24:54Danny Jones?

  Why, this guy is an American?

• 1:24:57Speaker 05

  He's a Christian, and he's an American, yes.

• 1:24:59Danny Jones?

  Why would he do that? Why would he care?

• 1:25:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, so there are two things. The first thing is, Henry Jackson made this his main foreign policy achievement. This is what he cared about.

• 1:25:12Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:12Speaker 05

  And he passed something called the Jackson-Vanik Amendment.

• 1:25:16Danny Jones?

  Jackson-Vanik?

• 1:25:17Speaker 05

  Vanik, V-A-N-I-K. Okay, it's called the Jackson-Vanik Amendment, okay? And we'll look at it together.

• 1:25:23Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:25:24Speaker 05

  Again, like, this is all gonna sound crazy, so I'll make sure we are fully, you know, adhering to the facts.

• 1:25:31Danny Jones?

  Okay. The Jackson-Vanik Amendment to the Trade Act of nineteen seventy-four is the nineteen seventy-four provision in the United States federal law intended to affect US trade relations with countries with non-market economies, originally countries of Soviet bloc, of the Soviet bloc, that restricted freedom of immigration and other human rights. The amendment is contained in the Trade Act of nineteen seventy-four, which passed both houses of the United States Congress unanimously and was signed by President Gerald Ford into law.

• 1:26:04Danny Jones?

  Over time, a number of countries were granted conditional normal trade relations subject to annual review, and a number of countries were liberated from the amendment. Twenty twelve, Obama signed the Magnitsky Act, formerly titled the Russia-Maldives-Jackson-Vanik Appeal and Sergey-Magnitsky Rule of Law Accountability Act of two thousand and twelve, Jesus Christ, that repealed the application of the Jackson-Vanik Amendment to Russia and gave normal US trade relations to Russia and Moldova, instead punishing individuals violating human rights.

• 1:26:48Danny Jones?

  Okay, I don't know what I just read.

• 1:26:50Speaker 05

  No, okay, so Soviet immigration policy, okay?

• 1:26:52Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:26:53Speaker 05

  That's what's important.

• 1:26:54Danny Jones?

  Which part?

• 1:26:55Speaker 05

  The Soviet immigration policy.

• 1:26:56Danny Jones?

  Okay, got it. Oh, yeah, yeah, got it, yeah, yeah, okay.

• 1:27:00Speaker 05

  So immigration from the Soviet Union was restricted. Okay, so what the Jackson-Vanik Amendment called for is, for the Soviet Union to relax its immigration policy, specifically with regard to Jews who want to immigrate to Israel.

• 1:27:16Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:27:17Speaker 05

  Right? That's what it did.

• 1:27:19Danny Jones?

  Okay, got it.

• 1:27:21Speaker 05

  So the question for us is, why would?

• 1:27:23Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah, it says it right there. After Soviet Union allowed a number of Soviet Jews to immigrate in the years after nineteen sixty-seven June War in the Middle East, expectations of freer immigration to buttress Jewish settlers to Israel were raised, but they were soon shattered as the nineteen seventy-two Soviet immigration head tax made immigration very difficult.

• 1:27:52Speaker 05

  Okay, so this is really important. This guy, who is a Christian and who is a senator from Washington State, is an American. He wanted the Soviet Union to allow Jews to immigrate to Israel so that Israel could expand its population.

• 1:28:04Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:04Speaker 05

  Why would he care?

• 1:28:05Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:28:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's interesting.

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• 1:29:27Speaker 05

  There are two things about Henry Jackson. The first is, he was friends with a man named Rebbe Schneerson.

• 1:29:37Danny Jones?

  Pull up the Scoop Jackson guy on here. Let's just get a basic Wikipedia on him.

• 1:29:40Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:29:41Danny Jones?

  Okay, he was friends with Rabbi Schneerson.

• 1:29:43Speaker 05

  Rebbe, Rebbe, there's Rabbi.

• 1:29:45Danny Jones?

  Oh, he wasn't a Rabbi.

• 1:29:46Speaker 05

  No, so Rebbe is the Rabbi of Rabbis.

• 1:29:49Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 1:29:50Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:29:50Danny Jones?

  He's like the final boss Rabbi.

• 1:29:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, the Godfather.

• 1:29:54Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:29:54Speaker 05

  The Pope, okay? And all Rabbis are under him, okay? So.

• 1:29:58Danny Jones?

  How many of these types of Rabbis are there, by the way? Do they get into the new ones? Like the Pope, there's a new Pope? Is there a new Rabbi?

• 1:30:04Speaker 05

  Right, so the Jewish faith is different from the Catholic faith. The Catholic faith is very centralized, right? There's one guy, the Pope at the top.

• 1:30:11Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:30:12Speaker 05

  But the Jewish faith, it's very decentralized. And so there are different dynasties, and these are family dynasties. And so Rebbe Schneerson was head of something called the Habad Lubavitch Movement, okay?

• 1:30:23Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:30:24Speaker 05

  Henry Jackson, and.

• 1:30:26Danny Jones?

  Pull up his Wiki, bro.

• 1:30:29Danny Jones?

  Okay, sorry, continue.

• 1:30:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, and so the how about Lubovitch, it's a family dynasty. And it was founded in, you know, the mid 19th century in Russia. And for about, you know, most of its history, it was persecuted by the Russians. Uh, first by the Russian Tsar, but then later by the Soviet Union.

• 1:30:53Danny Jones?

  Uh huh.

• 1:30:54Speaker 05

  And then it's the turning point was they were imported to the United States. They moved from the Soviet Union to the United States. Um, at the outbreak of World War Two to to escape Nazi and Soviet persecution.

• 1:31:08Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:31:08Speaker 05

  And that was the turning point because they landed in in Brooklyn. And then they started to invest in Brooklyn real estate. And today they basically control most of Brooklyn real estate.

• 1:31:15Danny Jones?

  Can you pull up a photo of this Schneerson fella?

• 1:31:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, Rebbe Schneerson.

• 1:31:19Danny Jones?

  Right there.

• 1:31:20Speaker 05

  There it is. He's called the Rebbe, okay?

• 1:31:22Danny Jones?

  Get some images, hit images, the Rebbe.

• 1:31:25Speaker 05

  Yes. Okay, and the Rebbe just means the Rabbi of Rabbis.

• 1:31:29Danny Jones?

  Whoa. What is that thing he's wearing on his head on the very left?

• 1:31:33Speaker 05

  The Cube of Saturn.

• 1:31:36Danny Jones?

  Whoa.

• 1:31:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:31:38Danny Jones?

  The Cube of Saturn?

• 1:31:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:31:41Speaker 06

  It's like a miniature hat.

• 1:31:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, this this is who he is.

• 1:31:48Danny Jones?

  What the hell's the Cube of Saturn, bro?

• 1:31:51Speaker 05

  Okay, so, um, um, the Cube of Saturn, um, will be found throughout most of corporate America. So Blackstone?

• 1:32:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:01Speaker 05

  Blackrock, it's all Cube of Saturn.

• 1:32:06Speaker 05

  Okay, uh, and.

• 1:32:11Danny Jones?

  What's going on, Steve? Are you spazzing out over there?

• 1:32:13Speaker 06

  Well, it's not relevant. I didn't want to distract you.

• 1:32:15Danny Jones?

  No, it's cool looking stuff. It's like fucking looked like some death metal album covers. So so Blackrock is the Cube of Saturn?

• 1:32:23Speaker 05

  Blackrock, Blackstone, and.

• 1:32:26Danny Jones?

  Is this, is this official? Like, like, are you just speculating this?

• 1:32:30Speaker 05

  I speculate.

• 1:32:31Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:32:31Speaker 05

  But but you ask yourself, why is it called Blackrock, Blackstone?

• 1:32:34Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:32:34Speaker 05

  You look at it, it's very similar to what Rebbe Schneerson is wearing.

• 1:32:37Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:32:38Speaker 05

  Right?

• 1:32:38Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:39Speaker 05

  Um, so, um, what people believe is that, um, Saturn is, um, the, um, main god that the Jews used to worship. Um, and so the, um, um, idea of Saturday, right? Saturday.

• 1:33:01Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:33:02Speaker 05

  It's Saturn.

• 1:33:04Danny Jones?

  Isn't Saturn also synonymous with the devil? Like, isn't Saturn connected with the devil in like certain, uh, like ancient Christian writings?

• 1:33:15Speaker 05

  Right, so if you look at Greek mythology.

• 1:33:17Danny Jones?

  Greek, yeah.

• 1:33:18Speaker 05

  Saturn was, um, Cronus, the father of the Titans. And what Cronus did was to ensure forever power, to ensure that he would be God forever. He ate his children. So whenever his wife gave birth.

• 1:33:35Danny Jones?

  Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 1:33:37Speaker 05

  He would eat that person.

• 1:33:38Danny Jones?

  Right, right.

• 1:33:39Speaker 05

  And then the children under Zeus rebelled against him and killed him.

• 1:33:42Danny Jones?

  This is that painting, that famous painting, right?

• 1:33:45Speaker 05

  That's right, that's right, exactly.

• 1:33:46Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:33:46Speaker 05

  Right, so Saturn, if you think about it, represents total control and domination.

• 1:33:52Danny Jones?

  Yes, right.

• 1:33:54Speaker 05

  And, um, um, so, so I, I honestly, I don't know why, but the Jews seem to worship him.

• 1:34:03Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:34:03Speaker 05

  So, um, Sa- Saturday is named after Saturn. And Saturday is when the Jews rest, right? The Sabbath.

• 1:34:12Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:13Speaker 05

  And, um, and there.

• 1:34:16Danny Jones?

  Somebody was showing me these Jewish elevators there. I saw it on Twitter, I think. There's there's actual elevators in certain office buildings for the Sabbath. Where they don't have, they stop at every floor, so they don't have to touch any buttons.

• 1:34:26Speaker 05

  That's right, that's right.

• 1:34:28Danny Jones?

  That's hilarious.

• 1:34:28Speaker 05

  That's right, and, um, and, um, the, there's a man named Septhi Zevi, who is very important to the story, but Septhi Zevi is named after Saturn. And he's considered by many Jews to be the Messiah.

• 1:34:44Danny Jones?

  Okay, so Schneerson is wearing this black Cube of Saturn on his head.

• 1:34:48Speaker 05

  Yeah. Okay.

• 1:34:50Danny Jones?

  So that's like his Pope hat.

• 1:34:53Speaker 05

  Um, or he uses uses to meditate and to pray, yeah.

• 1:34:56Danny Jones?

  Okay, got it. All right, I don't want to derail you too much on the Saturn stuff.

• 1:34:59Speaker 05

  Right, okay, yeah, so I'm not familiar with with with Saturnalia, they call it Saturnalia.

• 1:35:04Danny Jones?

  Right, um, okay.

• 1:35:05Speaker 05

  But, so Rebbe Schneerson is good friends with Henry Jackson. All right, so so let me tell you some background about, um, Rebbe Schneerson.

• 1:35:17Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:35:17Speaker 05

  Rebbe Schneerson was born in Marder, Ukraine, into the Habad Lubavitch movement. Okay, so he he married his cousin and his father-in-law, Rebbe Schneerson. It's the same family name, they were their cousins. Uh, because because only a Schneerson can inherit the title of Rebbe. Okay, so it's a family dynasty.

• 1:35:39Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:35:40Speaker 05

  Um, this is a persecuted movement. And as a result, they become messianic, right? Because if you become persecuted, your followers are under intense pressure to convert or to give guilt to religion. And the only way to convince them to stay is if you convince them that you're suffering for a reason. You're suffering because God is testing you. And you will usher in the end times and bring about the Messiah and, um, the salvation of the world. And so it's a very small movement, but they come to belief and they become very messianic, okay? Their turning point is World War Two.

• 1:36:24Speaker 05

  And Rebbe Schneerson and his family, they're brought to America by a name, by a man named Louis Brandeis. Okay, I'll spot for you, Brandeis.

• 1:36:33Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:36:34Speaker 05

  Why is he important? Because at this time in history, and this is like, you know, the late 1930s. Um, can you Google, can you Google this guy, Steve? Brandeis.

• 1:36:42Speaker 06

  I already got it.

• 1:36:43Speaker 05

  There you go. He is the most powerful Jew in America. Why? Because he's the, um, he's the Supreme Court Justice. And also at this time in history, and this is very important for us, he is the most ardent Zionist in the United States.

• 1:36:57Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 1:36:58Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:36:59Danny Jones?

  Died in 41.

• 1:37:01Speaker 05

  Yes, he is the most ardent Zionist in the United States. And so, uh, people don't appreciate this, but there's a huge debate among Zionists at this point, okay? So, um, there are many Zionists who are afraid of the Jews going to Israel. Why? Because this raises a problem of dual loyalty, right? Because Jews at this time in history are heavily integrated into Western society, in Germany, in the United States. And if a lot of them were to were to return to Israel, this might cause a spread of antisemitism.

• 1:37:40Speaker 05

  Right? Because because, uh, a lot of people would say, well, you know, if Jews have a homeland called Israel, why not just go to Israel, get out of our country? Right, if if are you Jewish or are you American? Right, so a lot, a lot of Zionists is like, you know, let's not do this, guys. Let's not advocate for the creation of the State of Israel, because this would create problems for most Jews around the world.

• 1:38:05Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:38:05Speaker 05

  Okay, and Louis.

• 1:38:07Danny Jones?

  So so this is assuming that Jews and Israelis are already like in the same bucket or or conflated.

• 1:38:15Speaker 05

  Well, Israel is not created at this point. Israel is created in 1948, right? This is like the the 30s and the 20s, right?

• 1:38:21Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:22Speaker 05

  Louis Brandeis, throughout this time, was saying, no, we need to create the State of Israel. Okay, and there's this guy who brought the Schneerson family into America. And let me tell the story of how he he did so.

• 1:38:36Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:38:37Speaker 05

  All right, so he needed, um, World War Two has just broken out. And Warsaw was, um, being invaded by both the Soviet Union and by Germany, okay? And the Rebbe Schneerson, like basically this Rebbe Schneerson's father-in-law was at Warsaw at this time. So what Louis Brandeis did was he called a friend in Germany. And this guy was the head of German military intelligence.

• 1:39:03Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:39:04Speaker 05

  Okay, this guy was the head of German military intelligence.

• 1:39:07Danny Jones?

  In the.

• 1:39:08Speaker 05

  In Nazi, in Nazi Germany.

• 1:39:10Danny Jones?

  Got it.

• 1:39:10Speaker 05

  Okay, and then what he did was he assembled an elite force of half-Jew Nazis. There were Nazis who were half Jewish, but because of their valor valor in World War One, Hitler granted granted them full German Aryan status. Okay, so so these were half Jews. And they were tasked with going to Warsaw and finding, um, this family and bringing them to the United States. So they went to Warsaw, and then they took, um, this family. And like, look, look, they're clearly Jews, okay? So you've got you've got these Nazis protecting these Jews. And then they shipped them to Brooklyn.

• 1:39:52Speaker 05

  And and this is where they built their Habad Lubavitch movement.

• 1:39:56Danny Jones?

  The Nazis rendered the this Lubavitch group, this little secret society.

• 1:40:03Speaker 05

  As a favor to Louis Brandeis.

• 1:40:05Danny Jones?

  As a favor to Louis Brandeis and saved them and brought them to the United States so that they wouldn't be killed in the war.

• 1:40:10Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 1:40:13Danny Jones?

  Okay, that's insane.

• 1:40:15Speaker 05

  Okay, so that's a background into the Rebbe, okay?

• 1:40:20Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:40:21Speaker 05

  And what will happen over time is the Habbat Lubens, they will have three basic principles. Okay, the first principle is we will pour our resources because they're poor, right? But what this means is everyone in the movement will just surrender the money to the leadership and the leadership will invest in Brooklyn real estate. And this is again the 1940s. And now today, they control most of Brooklyn real estate. So they're pulling the resources, okay? The other thing they will do is they will spread across the United States. They're now leaving Brooklyn, building communities in Wyoming, in other places. And when they do so, they become very insulated.

• 1:41:05Speaker 05

  So they refuse to acknowledge their neighbors. In fact, they teach their children not to play with other kids. You're only allowed to play amongst your community. It's basically the cult, okay?

• 1:41:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:41:20Speaker 05

  And the third thing that they do, which is the most important, is they have lots and lots of children. The men are encouraged to study the Torah, the biblical law, and the women are encouraged to work and have lots of children. And so you can imagine, this is 1940s, you can imagine how fast they grow throughout the United States, okay? And so this is Rebbe Snarson. And we, let's go into his psychology because for most, throughout most of his adult life, he's been persecuted by the authorities. And his brother dies in the war. Nazis killed his brother. He experienced the Holocaust.

• 1:42:06Speaker 05

  He comes to America and he becomes an ardent Zionist because of his association with Louis Brandeis. And Habbat Lubens is growing really rapidly. So I think that if you're the Rebbe, what you believe is you're on a mission from God.

• 1:42:28Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:42:28Speaker 05

  Because how else can you explain why you're being persecuted? And why you found sudden success in the United States? It's the will of God. The persecution is to test you, to make you a true believer. And this success is so that you can have the power and authority to implement God's vision for the world, God's plan for the world.

• 1:42:49Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:42:50Speaker 05

  All right? Does that make sense?

• 1:42:51Danny Jones?

  Of course. I mean, you can see the parallels with all kinds of other cults. I mean, Heaven's Gate Scientology, it's very... Yeah, my question though is, does he actually believe this? Or is he actually just using this as a stunt to get more power and more control over his group?

• 1:43:08Speaker 05

  I think he believes this. Okay, so what I want, what I want to show you now is how he goes and implements this vision, okay? So he went into the Jackson-Vanik Amendment, which allowed Jews to immigrate to Israel, right? Why is this important? Because these Jews, these Russian Jews, now make up 15% of the Israeli population.

• 1:43:37Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 1:43:38Speaker 05

  And who do they thank for being allowed to go to Israel? This guy, right? Because it's this guy who promotes the Jackson-Vanik Amendment.

• 1:43:54Speaker 05

  So they're very thankful to him and they believe he's actually the Messiah.

• 1:43:58Danny Jones?

  They believe he's Christ? Or not Christ?

• 1:44:00Speaker 05

  No, no, no. These are Jews.

• 1:44:02Danny Jones?

  Right, they're not, they're not fans of Christ.

• 1:44:04Speaker 05

  Right, right. So, so, so this is the Messiah.

• 1:44:07Danny Jones?

  The Messiah.

• 1:44:07Speaker 05

  Ben David.

• 1:44:11Speaker 05

  Okay, so now, what I want to show you is how he goes and builds a network in order to implement his eschatology, his Messiah vision, okay? The first video I'm gonna show you is of him meeting Netanyahu. Okay, so Netanyahu in 1980s, he is Israel's ambassador to the United Nations. So he's in New York, Rebbe Snarson is also in New York. And so they become friends. And Rebbe Snarson encourages his political career. Okay, so Steve, can you drop the video where the first, the first YouTube video I sent you where Netanyahu is talking to...

• 1:44:50Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it should be this one, yeah.

• 1:44:55Speaker 06

  No, there's another one.

• 1:44:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, the first one. The first one. So I'll show you two, okay? So this is him, and this is in 1990, when Netanyahu first wins a seat in the Knesset, which is basically Israel's parliament. Okay? So I, so I want to show you this video.

• 1:45:11Danny Jones?

  Is there audio that we should hear?

• 1:45:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:45:12Danny Jones?

  There's audio, yeah. The headphones, we'll hear it.

• 1:45:16Speaker 05

  I, I, I don't need the audio because you're speaking Hebrew.

• 1:45:18Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay, we don't need the audio.

• 1:45:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:45:20Danny Jones?

  Got it.

• 1:45:21Speaker 05

  Okay. But we'll look, look at the subtitles together, okay?

• 1:45:27Speaker 05

  Okay, so they're good friends, okay? I haven't seen in a long time. Blessings succeed, success, okay? And this is New York City.

• 1:45:33Danny Jones?

  A double portion of benediction. I came to ask your blessing and help in everything, in all areas, both personal and political. This is BB talking.

• 1:45:41Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:45:41Danny Jones?

  Rebbe says, since we last met, many things have progressed.

• 1:45:46Danny Jones?

  Many things have progressed. What hasn't changed, however, is that Mosheia still hasn't, the Messiah still hasn't come. So do something and hasten the coming. We're doing, we're doing, says BB. Apparently it's not enough, says the Rebbe, since many hours have already passed today and he's still not here.

• 1:46:06Danny Jones?

  But there are still a few hours left in the day. So try still for today. Yes, good tidings, with joy and happiness.

• 1:46:17Speaker 05

  Okay, so the year is 1990, okay? And Netanyahu is like, I need your help, I need your blessing to do all Israeli politics. And the Rebbe is like...

• 1:46:29Danny Jones?

  The Messiah hasn't come.

• 1:46:30Speaker 05

  The Messiah's come, hurry it up, man, okay? All right, so, so, so clearly this guy has a plan. And clearly he expects Netanyahu to help him implement this plan, okay? So, so now, the next video I want to show you is Miriam and Sheldon Adelson going to the Rebbe to ask for his blessing. Okay, so can we drop that video? Sheldon and Miriam Adelson asking the Rebbe for...

• 1:46:51Danny Jones?

  And what year did this happen?

• 1:46:53Speaker 05

  A year later.

• 1:46:53Danny Jones?

  Is this also subtitled?

• 1:46:55Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:46:56Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:46:56Speaker 05

  All right, so this is in 1991.

• 1:46:58Danny Jones?

  What are they doing? Counting money?

• 1:47:00Speaker 05

  No, no, it's blessing. Like I give you all the bills as a blessing. I give you all the bills as a double blessing. Oh, sorry, sorry, we probably need, need audio for this.

• 1:47:09Danny Jones?

  We need audio, okay.

• 1:47:10Speaker 05

  Because now they're speaking in English.

• 1:47:11Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:47:14Danny Jones?

  All right, that is Steveo.

• 1:48:11Danny Jones?

  Why is he handing her dollar bills?

• 1:48:13Speaker 05

  Oh, it's just the blessing. Like the dollar represents a blessing. I give you two dollar bills, it's a double blessing.

• 1:48:18Danny Jones?

  That's so weird.

• 1:48:19Speaker 05

  Yeah. But I want to show you this because the year is 1991. So this is the year after Netanyahu comes and asked for Rebbe's blessing. And now, on the eve of the wedding, Miriam and Sheldon Adelson ask the Rebbe for his blessing. Why is this important? Because who finances Netanyahu's political career in Israel? It's Sheldon Adelson, okay? Sheldon Adelson is gonna spend millions of dollars to buy up Israeli media in order to support Netanyahu.

• 1:48:51Speaker 05

  And what is, and so Netanyahu and Sheldon Adelson both asked for Rebbe's blessing. It's on YouTube, guys, you can just look at it yourself. Is this all coincidence? Now, now also remember, Sheldon Adelson is the one who financed Trump's political career. 2016, 2020, Sheldon Adelson is the biggest financial backer.

• 1:49:11Danny Jones?

  Sheldon owned the Brooklyn Nets, right? Or was the NBA team that he owned? I think it was the Nets.

• 1:49:15Speaker 05

  Well, I'm not sure what team he owns, but he basically controls Las Vegas.

• 1:49:20Danny Jones?

  Right, but he also owned an NBA team. I wonder, I think, I think I was remembering that correctly.

• 1:49:26Danny Jones?

  Just type in Sheldon Adelson NBA, NBA team.

• 1:49:32Danny Jones?

  This is probably not relevant, but this is just for...

• 1:49:36Danny Jones?

  Oh, the Mavericks, he owned the Dallas Mavericks, okay. So is there any kind of...

• 1:49:42Danny Jones?

  With Sheldon, and Sheldon was not Israeli, right?

• 1:49:48Speaker 05

  His wife is Israeli.

• 1:49:49Danny Jones?

  His wife, but he's not, right? He was not.

• 1:49:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's kind of strange, right?

• 1:49:52Danny Jones?

  So...

• 1:49:55Danny Jones?

  It is very strange, yeah.

• 1:49:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:49:58Danny Jones?

  So this is mainly a push by his wife.

• 1:50:00Speaker 05

  Rupert Murdoch recently married, recently remarried to an Israeli woman.

• 1:50:07Danny Jones?

  Did he really?

• 1:50:08Speaker 05

  I think so, yeah. Can we fact check that, Steve? Rupert Murdoch's new wife...

• 1:50:13Danny Jones?

  Yeah, type in Rupert Murdoch's new wife.

• 1:50:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think, I think she's Israeli.

• 1:50:20Danny Jones?

  Rupert Murdoch's current wife is Elena Zukova, a retired molecular biologist. They married in June 2024 at his Marega Vineyard Estate in Bel Air, California. This marks Murdoch's fifth marriage.

• 1:50:37Speaker 05

  She's Jewish, I know that.

• 1:50:39Danny Jones?

  Type it, yeah, hit her.

• 1:50:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, she's Jewish for sure, but she's from Israel.

• 1:50:46Danny Jones?

  No, go down, go down, go down. It says, is she Russian? There's a thing right there. Is Elena Zikir Russian? Click that. Yeah, she's Russian. Born in Moscow, Soviet Union, now Russia, and retired molecular biologist of Russian Jewish heritage. Moved to the United States in 1991. So she's a Russian Jew.

• 1:51:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, okay. Right. Habad Lubavitch is also very big in Russia, by the way. Anyway. Anyway, so.

• 1:51:11Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 1:51:12Speaker 05

  So Shona Idelson finances the political career of both Donald Trump and Netanyahu. And these are the two people responsible for the war in Iran. Okay. Now, I want to show you another point of convergence. And it's Mark Zuckerberg. Have you ever asked yourself? How Mark Zuckerberg? Made his money?

• 1:51:36Danny Jones?

  Uh, yeah, I watched the Facebook movie.

• 1:51:38Speaker 05

  Okay. Right. Okay. So.

• 1:51:43Speaker 05

  I want to show you.

• 1:51:44Danny Jones?

  You got insanely lucky.

• 1:51:46Speaker 05

  Right, that's what we all believe, right? He's insanely lucky. He met these two dudes who were kind of stupid.

• 1:51:51Danny Jones?

  Right, right.

• 1:51:51Speaker 05

  They had a great idea, so he just stole the idea from them. That's it.

• 1:51:54Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:51:55Speaker 05

  Okay, that's what the movie says. Alright, so I went to Yale in 1995. The moment you step on campus, they give you something called a Facebook. The Facebook is just like this big. Picture book of all the freshmen at Yale. And we obsessed over it for a whole year. Because that Facebook had every picture of every freshman. With their personal details, with his or her personal details. You can.

• 1:52:24Danny Jones?

  That's how you find all the hot girls, right?

• 1:52:25Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 1:52:26Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:26Speaker 05

  Right, so we spent a whole year obsessing over this. In fact, even the seniors obsessed over this. Because they wanted to know who the hot girls were, so they could like go. Pick on them, right? Go, go, go, go date them, right? So. Imagine how profitable it would be if you could digitize this. Because if you were able to digitize this Facebook, you could now interact with people seamlessly, right? Now. Everyone wanted to do this, but the university would not allow this to happen because of privacy laws.

• 1:52:55Speaker 05

  Right? Because once you digitize it, then it was. Then these people could be harassed all the time. Okay, that's number one. But number two is. If it was digitized, then every person in the United States would want access to this data as well, because. Hot girls at Harvard and Yale, right?

• 1:53:14Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:53:15Speaker 05

  Okay. So the university, of course, would be very protective of students' privacy. That would be the thing that we'd be most protective of. So the question is. Why would Harvard University not only allow Mark Zuckerberg to privatize student?

• 1:53:33Speaker 05

  Data? But also. To. Allow people from other universities to access this data. Because basically he's leveraging the Harvard brand. Right? And also, like, the people who invested in Facebook did something really weird. The people who invested in Facebook, Peter Thiel and others.

• 1:53:54Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:53:55Speaker 05

  Basically gave. Mark Zuckerberg. Total control over the company. He was given Class B shares. Which had 10 times the voting power of Class A shares. So the public, others were allowed to buy Class A shares. But Mark Zuckerberg and his friends were allowed to have control over Class B shares. So even today, Mark Zuckerberg has complete control over Facebook. And he can do whatever he wants, including start a stupid enterprise called The Metaverse.

• 1:54:21Danny Jones?

  Is he, out of all of the big? Tech. Platforms that are out there like Facebook, is he the only? CEO that, or founder, that has complete and total control over their company?

• 1:54:35Speaker 05

  There's only two more.

• 1:54:36Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:54:36Speaker 05

  Sergey Byrne and Larry Page at Google.

• 1:54:38Danny Jones?

  Sergey Byrne and Larry Page.

• 1:54:40Speaker 05

  Yes. Only they also have complete control over the companies. But Mark Zuckerberg is the only person who has complete control.

• 1:54:45Danny Jones?

  Sergey Byrne is not even in Google anymore, right?

• 1:54:48Speaker 05

  I'm not sure about that, but I do know that they have complete control over Google. But Mark Zuckerberg has complete control over Facebook, okay? Alright, so. The story is, of course, that he just stole this idea from the Van Gogh Ross twins.

• 1:55:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:55:03Speaker 05

  But if you look at what he did at Harvard. As a freshman. He participated in a society called the Harvard Habad. Society. It was an off-branch, a campus off-branch of Habad Lubavitch. Okay? The seniors at that time who were part of Harvard Habad, who were very active, were Jared Kushner and Natalie Portman.

• 1:55:26Danny Jones?

  Look up the Harvard Habad.

• 1:55:28Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:55:29Danny Jones?

  What's it called? The Harvard Habad Group Community?

• 1:55:31Speaker 05

  You can just Google Harvard Habad, okay? C-H-A-B-A-D, okay? No, no, no, no, that's a Yale, that's a Yale. We're looking at Harvard.

• 1:55:39Danny Jones?

  Harvard C-H-A-B-A-D.

• 1:55:43Speaker 05

  And you can just Google.

• 1:55:44Danny Jones?

  Members.

• 1:55:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's their website.

• 1:55:48Danny Jones?

  The soul of Jewish life on campus, the Harvard Habad. Alumni, click on alumni.

• 1:55:54Speaker 05

  Yeah. And this is basically their.

• 1:56:04Speaker 05

  Okay, let's just go back, maybe we can find something.

• 1:56:05Danny Jones?

  Find the Wiki, find the Wikipedia.

• 1:56:09Speaker 05

  You can just Google Harvard Habad alumni, right?

• 1:56:12Danny Jones?

  Members, like notable members of Harvard Habad.

• 1:56:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's good.

• 1:56:22Danny Jones?

  Okay, Rabbi Hershiz Arkary. Zarci? I don't know any of these people. Jared Kushner, okay, Jared Kushner, Ben Landau. Joe Katzman.

• 1:56:36Danny Jones?

  Alan Dershowitz.

• 1:56:37Speaker 05

  So Alan Dershowitz was the faculty advisor. And the patron was Larry Summers.

• 1:56:43Danny Jones?

  Okay, and then type in Mark Zuckerberg. Is Mark Zuckerberg? No, no, we're down there, Ask Anything, Siri says Ask Anything. Type in Mark Zuckerberg. No, no, you don't have to type that, just type in Mark Zuckerberg, yeah.

• 1:56:59Danny Jones?

  Mark Zuckerberg did attend some events during his undergraduate days, but he's not considered a primary leader. Okay. So he was, he attended some events.

• 1:57:07Speaker 05

  Okay, so, okay, so there's another connection that Mark Zuckerberg has to Harvard, which is more important. In an interview, Mark Zuckerberg said this. He said that his parents had three daughters before they had him. And they really wanted a son. So they went to Rebbe Schneerson. Our good friend Rebbe Schneerson, and says.

• 1:57:29Danny Jones?

  Zuckerberg's parents?

• 1:57:30Speaker 05

  Yes. Could you please bless us with a son? And Rebbe Schneerson's. Yes, I will bless. You with a son. And then they had Mark Zuckerberg. Okay, now, this sounds like a pretty knackered story to us. But if you know the Bible. And these people do know their Bible very well. There's tremendous significance to this story. Because some major prophets, some major political figures. Were born of parents who begged. For a child from God, okay? So the most famous is Abraham and Sarah couldn't conceive. So they begged God for a child and they had Isaac. And then God asked Abraham to sacrifice Isaac.

• 1:58:16Speaker 05

  And Abraham did before God stopped him, okay? That's Isaac. They have Samuel. Samuel's parents couldn't conceive. They went to the chief priest of Jerusalem and begged for a child. And said that if we have a child, then we will. Have this child become servant of God. And then they had this child named Samuel. And Samuel's a prophet who anoints David to be the leader of Israel. And then you have John the Baptist as well. So I would interpret Mark Zuckerberg telling everyone that, you know, like, my parents asked. For a blessing from Rebbe Schneerson, as saying that Mark Zuckerberg.

• 1:58:59Speaker 05

  Sorry, Mark Zuckerberg was conceived to be a servant of God. He was born to be a servant of God.

• 1:59:04Danny Jones?

  Do you know what interview he said that in?

• 1:59:06Speaker 05

  Well, I sent Steve the link. Okay, can you drop the link?

• 1:59:11Danny Jones?

  There's an actual link to the interview on YouTube where he talks.

• 1:59:14Speaker 05

  So in the email, I shared a link to the interview.

• 1:59:19Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:59:19Danny Jones?

  Surprising connection between Zuckerberg and Lubavitcher Rebbe.

• 1:59:24Speaker 05

  Rebbe Schneerson.

• 1:59:25Danny Jones?

  Right. Okay. Let's play it. Can you play it?

• 1:59:32Danny Jones?

  Hit not now. Scroll down. Oh, my God, ads. Scroll down. Is there a video or is this all? Okay.

• 1:59:39Speaker 05

  It's just an article.

• 1:59:40Danny Jones?

  It's just an article.

• 1:59:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:59:42Danny Jones?

  In a recent interview with, uh, what is this website?

• 1:59:47Danny Jones?

  Uh, in a recent, uh, interview with Jewish magazine in the U.S., Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg shared a special connection he has to the Lubavitcher Rebbe, a bond that began before he was even born. Before, quote, "Before I was born, my parents had three daughters and my father wanted a son. They visited several doctors, but weren't successful. They were nearly at a total loss until a close family friend, who was affiliated with the Shabbat movement, advised that my father to seek the Rebbe's blessing. In 1982, Zuckerberg's father found himself in New York, uh, the seat of the Rebbe. He waited in a long line, and when his turn came, he requested the Rebbe's blessing of a son.

• 2:00:31Danny Jones?

  To his surprise, before granting the blessing, the Rebbe warmly asked whether he was observant of the Torah or the Mitzvah."

• 2:00:40Danny Jones?

  Keep going down.

• 2:00:43Danny Jones?

  Uh, when the father admitted he was an observant, the Rebbe explained to him that the philosophy of the Shabbat and asked him to commit to giving the future son a Jewish education. Quote, "My father promised he would, and I was born less than 18 months after the Rebbe's blessing." Zuckerberg said with a smile. But the story doesn't end there. Quote, "When my Bar Mitzvah came, my father gave me that dollar bill he received from the Rebbe and passed along the message that came with it. I held on to that dollar without giving it much thought. During my college years, the idea for Facebook began, uh, to form, and suddenly I recalled what my father told me. I felt there was a connection between the Rebbe's message and my social media network.

• 2:01:26Danny Jones?

  When it came time to officially establish the Facebook as an active company, I felt it was time to use the dollar and deposit it in the bank on the day the company was founded. Though I'm not religious, I can vouch for this man's extraordinary intuition," referring to Rabbi Lubavitch, Rabbi Shneurson, "and I regret not having met him."

• 2:01:46Danny Jones?

  Interesting. This is a weird, uh, website, though. I can't believe there's no other. So you can find any other, um, like, mentions of this? This could be a bullshit website.

• 2:01:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, um, yeah, I mean, I asked ChatGPT, and ChatGPT does confirm.

• 2:02:02Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 2:02:03Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:02:03Danny Jones?

  Oh, wow.

• 2:02:04Speaker 05

  Confirm the story. But I actually didn't believe ChatGPT, so I, I looked for a source, and this is like a Jewish website.

• 2:02:10Danny Jones?

  Oh, wow.

• 2:02:10Speaker 05

  So it's like an in-group messaging.

• 2:02:12Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:13Speaker 05

  Right? So he's saying, like, Facebook was founded with the blessing of Rebbe Shneurson.

• 2:02:18Danny Jones?

  Wow. Now, Sam, I was telling you last night, too, Sam Tripoli told me this crazy thing about, uh, DARPA being, remember when Sam Tripoli was telling us about the connection with DARPA and Facebook? And it's a, it was a, it was a program inside DARPA that basically got turned into Facebook.

• 2:02:31Speaker 05

  That's right. That's right, right? Because you wanted access to people's personal data. But like, if DARPA came out and says, like, you know, "Give it to us," everyone'd be like, "Screw you, you're the government, you're the Pentagon."

• 2:02:40Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:02:41Speaker 05

  But if you had this nerd, Mark Zuckerberg, saying, you know, like, so, so, you know...

• 2:02:45Danny Jones?

  Well, that's so interesting, too, because DARPA was fundamental in creating and incubating the Google.

• 2:02:50Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 2:02:50Danny Jones?

  The Google search engine.

• 2:02:51Speaker 05

  That's right. So it all ties back. Also, Oracle as well. So a lot of these tech companies come from the Pentagon. Um, but, you know, like, there's this very famous exchange where Mark Zuckerberg is talking to someone and says, you know, like, "Hey, I have access to all of Harvard students' personal data." And the person replies and says, "How are we, how are you able to get this data?" And then Mark Zuckerberg was like, "Well, they trust me, those dumb fucks." This, this is like a real email exchange between Mark Zuckerberg and, and, and the friend.

• 2:03:20Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 2:03:20Speaker 05

  Yeah. And he's right. It's like, people will, are willing to trust a nerd with their personal data, knowing, thinking that the nerd won't abuse it. They wouldn't give it to the government, right? So the government needs a front. So, uh, this...

• 2:03:34Danny Jones?

  And this is also early days before people were really aware of, like, what data even meant.

• 2:03:38Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 2:03:39Danny Jones?

  And what the value of it was and any of that stuff.

• 2:03:41Speaker 05

  That's right. So, so, um, the idea that Mark Zuckerberg just got lucky doesn't hold water. You know, he has this very close connection to the Haba Lubavitch movement, and he, Haba Lubavitch was very prominent on the Harvard campus. The patron of Harvard Haba was Larry Summers. Faculty advisor was Alan Dershowitz. And two prominent members at that time were Jared Kushner and Natalie Portman. Okay? What is important is, the year 2016, um, it's a Cambridge Analytica scandal. Do you remember this?

• 2:04:10Danny Jones?

  I do.

• 2:04:10Speaker 05

  When Cambridge Analytica was able to access 50 million Facebook users and then allow the Trump campaign to create micro-targeting to sway their political opinion.

• 2:04:21Danny Jones?

  I know Steve Bannon was a part of this.

• 2:04:23Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 2:04:23Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:23Speaker 05

  And, um, so, at that time, the two heads of Facebook were Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg. Sheryl Sandberg is a prodigy of Larry Summers. And today, she's an arts lioness. Running the Trump campaign is Steve Bannon, but also Jared Kushner. So it could all be coincidence, okay? It could all be coincidence, but there are dots connected, right? The first dot, sorry, the first dot is Rebbe Shneurson has a family connection to Mark Zuckerberg. And Mark Zuckerberg was born with Rebbe Shneurson's blessing, which meant that now he must serve God. Okay? That's, that's what the Jewish tradition believes.

• 2:05:07Speaker 05

  When, um, Mark Zuckerberg was at Harvard, he was able to use the Harvard brand and circumvent Harvard's privacy laws to create Facebook. The president at that time was Larry Summers, and, um, the faculty advisor to Harvard Haba was Alan Dershowitz. Okay? And then 2016, Mark Zuckerberg and Jared Kushner, um, are both in, involved in the Cambridge Analytica scandal.

• 2:05:37Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:05:38Speaker 05

  Again, it could be entirely coincidence.

• 2:05:40Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:40Speaker 05

  Okay? But it's kind of strange how these things line up.

• 2:05:45Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:45Speaker 05

  Okay? Another thing that I will point out is, um, and you can Google this, just to confirm, okay?

• 2:05:51Danny Jones?

  Did you look at ChatGPT with that, with that, uh, Zuckerberg Shabbat blessing?

• 2:05:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, it couldn't give me any other. It seems like that's like the only outlet.

• 2:05:59Danny Jones?

  That was the only source?

• 2:06:00Speaker 06

  It is an official...

• 2:06:00Danny Jones?

  Can you show me?

• 2:06:02Speaker 06

  Well, I already got rid of it. No, I think I did. Did I? It is an official, uh, Jewish...

• 2:06:09Danny Jones?

  Just pull it, yeah, sure, just, you can do it again, just show me on, on ChatGPT. The Jewish Journal, uh, "Additional Verified Facts of Mark Zuckerberg's Family's Jewish Journey," uh, while Meta's official investor, uh, relations of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

• 2:06:24Speaker 06

  No, it's not that.

• 2:06:28Danny Jones?

  Do this, Steve. Paste the link to that article.

• 2:06:33Speaker 06

  I was in the process of doing that.

• 2:06:34Danny Jones?

  That we were looking into the AI and say, uh, can you corroborate this story with any other sources?

• 2:06:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, but like, you, you know that Jared Kushner is, the family is a very prominent family in the Haba Lubavitch movement, right?

• 2:06:52Danny Jones?

  Uh, vaguely aware.

• 2:06:53Speaker 05

  Right, so the Kushner family is very prominent in the Haba Lubavitch movement. And Netanyahu and Charles Kushner, uh, who is Jared Kushner's father.

• 2:07:04Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:07:05Speaker 05

  They were very, very close. So close, in fact, that whenever Netanyahu visited the United States, he stayed with the Kushner family.

• 2:07:12Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:12Speaker 05

  He slept in Jared Kushner's bedroom.

• 2:07:15Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:07:16Speaker 05

  Okay? So it all aligns.

• 2:07:19Danny Jones?

  That's crazy.

• 2:07:19Speaker 05

  It's crazy. Okay? So, again, it could all be coincidence, but it's really strange how you have this small group of people, and they're always associating, and they're all, like, now in the highest positions of power in the world.

• 2:07:32Danny Jones?

  Are you familiar with the story of Jared Kushner's dad on how he blackmailed, like, his brother-in-law or something like that?

• 2:07:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:07:38Danny Jones?

  By putting a prostitute in his hotel room?

• 2:07:41Speaker 05

  That's right. And he was, uh, persecuted. No, sorry, he was prosecuted by, um, by Christie for that.

• 2:07:47Danny Jones?

  Chris Christie.

• 2:07:48Speaker 05

  That's right. And that's why Chris Christie and Jared Kushner have bad blood, because they were both involved in the 2016, uh, campaign for Trump.

• 2:07:54Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:54Speaker 05

  And then Jared Kushner got rid of Chris Christie.

• 2:07:57Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:07:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:07:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, so there's a lot about...

• 2:07:59Danny Jones?

  That's an insane story.

• 2:08:00Speaker 05

  Yeah. But, um, but the story gets more insane because in 2016 and 2020, on the, on the eve of the election, the presidential election, Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump both visit the grave of Rebbe Shneurson. Rebbe Shneurson dies in 1984, by the way.

• 2:08:16Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:16Speaker 05

  And ask for his blessing. Rebbe Shneurson's grave in Queens, New York is the most visited Jewish holy site outside of Israel.

• 2:08:28Speaker 05

  2024 Donald Trump with Ben Shapiro visit the grave of Rabbi Snerston to ask for his blessing before his presidential presidential election against Kamala Harris.

• 2:08:39Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:08:40Speaker 05

  Why would they do that? Like, who is this guy?

• 2:08:43Danny Jones?

  Well, I mean, if he's getting all of his money from people like the Adelsons and all of these other Zionist billionaires, you know, I would imagine that there could be some influence there. Like, hey, we want to do this, this PR, this will be great for the voting base, you know, the Zionist and the Jewish voting base, you'll get a lot of voters from them. And this will be a good PR thing to do.

• 2:09:07Speaker 05

  All right.

• 2:09:07Danny Jones?

  Okay, okay, about Zuckerberg, let me see your question. Can you go? Okay, you just pasted the link to it. And it said, the interview this story describes in an article. Okay, the interview and the story described in the article are entirely fabricated. While the article frames these quotes as direct testimony from Zuckerberg to a Jewish magazine, no such interview or statement ever took place. This story is a well-known piece of internet folklore, often referred to in Jewish media circles as a Chabad urban legend and has been thoroughly debunked. Why the story is false? The story claims Zuckerberg's father visited the rabbi in 1982 because he had, yeah, yeah, yeah,

• 2:09:52Danny Jones?

  because he had the issues with having a kid. And then it says, okay, he has an older sister, Randy, and two younger sisters, Donna and Ariel. In 1982, his parents did not have three daughters. I thought it said it had two in the article. No record of the interview. There is absolutely no record in any reputable mainstream or Jewish publications of Mark Zuckerberg ever making these statements, nor did he deposit a Chabad dollar into the bank that found Facebook. Well, how would this AI know that?

• 2:10:25Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 2:10:25Danny Jones?

  Fabric, go up, go up, go up. Fabricated quotes, the quotes attributed to Zuckerberg discussing his father's medical struggles, the rabbi's philosophy and the mystery linked to the creation of Facebook were completely invented for the viral internet story.

• 2:10:42Speaker 05

  I asked if Zuckerberg himself.

• 2:10:45Danny Jones?

  He's never commented on it.

• 2:10:46Speaker 05

  So it's like, who knows?

• 2:10:47Danny Jones?

  So go, it's very interesting how defensive AI is being.

• 2:10:54Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:10:54Danny Jones?

  It doesn't sound like it's.

• 2:10:55Speaker 05

  It's weird.

• 2:10:56Danny Jones?

  It's debunking it, right? But it's not being like very neutral about it. It's, it seems to be being a very aggressive debunking this story.

• 2:11:05Speaker 05

  It's funny because I asked, I asked it simply if that information, if that did happen. And it says, yes, his father did go to Rabbi Snerston.

• 2:11:12Danny Jones?

  Whoa.

• 2:11:13Speaker 05

  So it's.

• 2:11:15Danny Jones?

  So you asked it previously and it said, yes.

• 2:11:17Speaker 05

  Yes. But then it cites that one article from Hittah.

• 2:11:23Danny Jones?

  It cites that one article, okay, according to this interview.

• 2:11:26Speaker 05

  It's a Jewish outlet.

• 2:11:27Danny Jones?

  And then when you asked it again down below, it said, this is an entirely fabricated article.

• 2:11:32Speaker 05

  In a separate chat, I asked it in a separate one. This is a different tab.

• 2:11:37Danny Jones?

  So you can find the author of it? I don't know. That's interesting. But.

• 2:11:43Speaker 05

  And why would, how about Luvic just make this up out of veneer?

• 2:11:46Danny Jones?

  Why would who make it up?

• 2:11:47Speaker 05

  How about Luvovic? Why would they just make this up?

• 2:11:50Danny Jones?

  Why would this, this article?

• 2:11:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, just be completely made up. If there's no, if there's no validity to it, why would you just make it up?

• 2:11:58Danny Jones?

  Uh, I mean, people make shit up all the time. People make, you know, people do smear campaigns on people all the time, try to tie them.

• 2:12:04Speaker 05

  But this isn't a smear campaign. This is like to praise Mark Zuckerberg, right? This is a Jewish magazine. It's read by Jewish people.

• 2:12:12Danny Jones?

  When was that published? That's, that's, that's what we should have paid attention to.

• 2:12:15Speaker 05

  2015.

• 2:12:16Danny Jones?

  That was published in 2015.

• 2:12:18Speaker 05

  And this is a Jewish magazine.

• 2:12:19Danny Jones?

  Well, it's, it's just weird because it's the only article on the entire internet that references it. You know, and it's the only source for it. So it's like, I don't know, I feel like we gotta, we gotta scrutinize it a little bit harder just because of that.

• 2:12:33Speaker 05

  There is no off, oh, wait, wait, there is an author, Shira Da Bush.

• 2:12:39Danny Jones?

  You know how many stories online that we reference or, you know, use in context of coming up with a bigger theory on something? Only have one public, one article posted about it. Usually there's, you know, lots of corroborating stories or different takes on it, at least acknowledging that this event actually happened.

• 2:12:59Speaker 05

  Right, you're absolutely right. So, yeah, but you know, it doesn't really, yeah, I mean, like, this is just a theory. And I'm not saying this is, this is what happened, I'm saying like there are certain thoughts. And, you know, the connection between the Krishna family and the Rabbi Snerston and Rabbi Snerston are definitely true.

• 2:13:19Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:13:20Speaker 05

  This is heavily acknowledged, acknowledged. Something else that I want to bring up is how we got into this, how the United States got into this war in Iraq. Okay, so, so Rabbi Snerston, he's casting a pretty wide net, right? So he's got the connections to Henry Jackson, he's got connections to.

• 2:13:41Danny Jones?

  So, yeah, we started talking about Scoop Jackson.

• 2:13:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:13:43Danny Jones?

  And we started talking about how they brought Snerston and his family back to the US.

• 2:13:48Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 2:13:48Danny Jones?

  And the connection to Wolfowitz and Pearl.

• 2:13:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:13:53Danny Jones?

  And how they came up with this plan.

• 2:13:55Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:13:56Danny Jones?

  Right, the Wolfowitz doctrine?

• 2:13:58Speaker 05

  No, that's, no, the clean break memo.

• 2:14:00Danny Jones?

  The clean break memo, okay, right, right, right.

• 2:14:02Speaker 05

  So, so something that's really important for us to keep in mind is Rabbi Snerston wants the Messiah to come. Okay, and so I'm going to go into how he thinks. And, and then we'll tie it to current events.

• 2:14:17Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:14:18Speaker 05

  All right, so the question is, how much influence does Rabbi Snerston have? And what I want to do now is go into how he perceives the world. And he perceives the world through something called Kabbalah. Okay, Kabbalah is just the Jewish mystical tradition. So you have the Bible, rather than a Bible or a collection of stories. So you have Adam and Eve, the story of the patriarchs, Moses, and then you have the story of King David.

• 2:14:46Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:14:46Speaker 05

  Right? And the idea of the Kabbalah is trying to interpret these stories in a mystical lens so as to understand the soul of the universe, the mind of God. Right? And the understanding of the Kabbalah is the world that we see around us, this material world, it's a fake reality, it's a simulation. The universe itself is pure consciousness. And the totality of this consciousness is God. Okay?

• 2:15:18Danny Jones?

  So the universe itself is, the totality of the universe is pure consciousness.

• 2:15:23Speaker 05

  Yeah. Okay, so, so think of energy, okay, energy that vibrates, and that's consciousness. And then at a lower level, this vibration becomes much more concrete, much more visible to the human eye. And that's the world that we live in. All right?

• 2:15:39Danny Jones?

  And you're saying that this is the view of?

• 2:15:41Speaker 05

  The Kabbalah.

• 2:15:42Danny Jones?

  The Kabbalah, okay.

• 2:15:43Speaker 05

  Okay, and this is generally accepted.

• 2:15:44Danny Jones?

  Understood.

• 2:15:45Speaker 05

  Okay, so the idea is rather than seeing that consciousness emerges from matter, it's really consciousness that creates matter.

• 2:15:54Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:15:55Speaker 05

  Okay, so mind before matter. Because in school, we're taught that matter leads to mind. Okay, the brain is what creates the mind. Well, these Kabbalists believe it's the mind that creates the brain as well as the body.

• 2:16:07Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:16:08Speaker 05

  Okay, so now what they're going to do is they're going to take this major idea, consciousness is the universe, and apply it to the Bible, the stories of the Bible, and resolve some mysteries as to what happened in the Bible. So the first mystery in the Bible is, why did Adam and Eve disobey God? Right? Because God just basically said, this is paradise, the garden of Eden. You, you will live forever here and you can eat as much food as you want, you'll never have to labor. But there's only one rule, and the rule is do not eat from the fruit of the tree of knowledge.

• 2:16:44Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:16:44Speaker 05

  That's all you have to do. And Adam and Eve just managed to break that one rule, which condemned humanity to the world that we live in today. We were cast aside from paradise.

• 2:16:56Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:16:56Speaker 05

  Okay, and so the Kabbalists are trying to figure out, why did this happen? And what does this mean for us in the universe?

• 2:17:03Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:17:04Speaker 05

  And so the explanation is this, the explanation is, in the beginning, there's only God. God's a totality. And God is the will to bestow, he is pure love. And love means giving. The problem is, there's nothing to give to. So God creates a new being called Adam Kenman, which is the will to receive. So that God can know itself, God can complete itself by giving to someone else. The problem is that Adam Kenman is an immature being. It is the will to receive, therefore it is pure ego. And therefore it does not understand.

• 2:17:43Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:17:44Speaker 05

  Why God gives, because it only receives. And so Adam Kenman receives this gift of divine light, but at some point, he hesitates, he doubts, and he rejects the light. And he breaks, and this is the shadowing of the world. Okay? And the shadowing of the world descends into our world, and these divine sparks become, become embodied by husks, by bodies. Okay, so humans are this divine light that come from Adam Kenman that now become embodied in husks, in bodies. And because we have bodies, we become blind to our divine origins.

• 2:18:27Speaker 05

  And we engage in all sorts of.

• 2:18:30Danny Jones?

  Sin.

• 2:18:31Speaker 05

  Sin, right? Okay, and that's why Adam and Eve disobeyed God. And that's why when we go into the world, we commit all sorts of sin and evil. And this, this explains how the Bible progressed, right?

• 2:18:45Danny Jones?

  That was the original sin.

• 2:18:46Speaker 05

  That was the original sin. And so the purpose of the universe is for the Jews to repair the world, because the Jews are the chosen people. They will repair the world and then bring all these shards of light back together again. And this will allow God to have a reunion with humanity. And this will repair the world, and this will be the end of days. Okay? So that is the general idea.

• 2:19:16Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:19:16Speaker 05

  But there's a logic to all this process in that God is all-knowing. So God knew that we would reject his light, but that was part of the plan.

• 2:19:27Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:19:28Speaker 05

  Because it's only through our sin that we will have knowledge that we can repent.

• 2:19:34Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:19:34Speaker 05

  And therefore we can welcome God. And the classic example is the story of King David, who is the most beloved by God. Right, I'm not sure how familiar you are with the Bible.

• 2:19:43Danny Jones?

  I'm fairly familiar.

• 2:19:44Speaker 05

  Okay, so the story of King David is, he becomes king of Israel, and he starts an affair with Bathsheba.

• 2:19:53Speaker 05

  The promise of Sheba is already married to a man named Uriel Haithite, who happens to be David's greatest warrior. So David, in order to marry your Sheba, kills Uriel Haithite. Okay, and then Nathan, the prophet of God, comes to David and says, you've committed great sin. Do you feel sorry for what's happened? And David's like, not really. So God kills Sheba's son with David. And this forces David into tremendous mourning.

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• 2:21:38Speaker 05

  he opens his heart to God, and they become the best of friends. Now there's a reunion between God and David. And that is the point of our existence, to commit so much evil in the world that we ultimately have to repent. And the moment we repent, then God forgives us, and now we can be one

• 2:21:57Danny Jones?

  With God.

• 2:21:58Speaker 05

  With God.

• 2:21:58Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:21:58Speaker 05

  Okay, and this, this is what an extreme faction of the Kabbalists believe. The problem is, this extreme faction also includes Rebbe Schneerson and the Habad Lubavitch movement. And that's why he is telling Netanyahu to hurry up the coming of the Messiah. Why? Because if you interpret the universe through this lens, and you apply it to current affairs, then you want to create conditions for the eventual redemption of humanity. Okay, so three things have to happen in order for the Jews to repent and for humanity to be redeemed.

• 2:22:38Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:22:38Speaker 05

  The first thing that has to happen is the creation of the Greater Israel Project. Okay, why? Because the Greater Israel Project was God's original covenant with the Jews. Okay, the Greater Israel Project. Number two is the return of the Jews' diaspora to Israel and their repentance. Okay, and what would cause their repentance? What will cause the return to Israel? And the answer is antisemitism.

• 2:23:08Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:23:09Speaker 05

  Right? So the Kabbalists interpret the Holocaust very differently from the way you and I interpret the Holocaust. What you and I were taught was, okay, the Holocaust happened because Hitler was an antisemite. He had this hatred for the Jews. But the Kabbalists believe something different. Okay, again, these are an extreme faction of Kabbalists.

• 2:23:26Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:23:27Speaker 05

  They believe it was the Jews who forced the Holocaust. The Jews are at fault for the Holocaust. Because if you read the Bible, every time bad things happen to the Jews, it's because the Jews disobey God.

• 2:23:42Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:23:43Speaker 05

  And nothing else, right? So Moses is leading the Jews out of slavery in Egypt to the promised land. And what do the Jews do? They build a calf to worship. But God already told them, do not worship false idols. Do not engage in idolatry.

• 2:23:59Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:24:00Speaker 05

  Right? So then God's like, I have to punish you, and so you will spend 40 years in the desert, wandering in the desert. All right? The, um, the greatest trauma for the Jews in the Bible is the destruction of the temple, because the temple is the house of God. It was the Babylonians who came to destroy the temple. But the prophet Jeremiah said to the Jews, it's, the Babylonians are just a tool of God. Okay, it's not the Babylonians who are doing this. It is God who is doing this. Why? Because God told you not to worship false idols, and you continue to worship other gods when we told you not to do so. So why did the Holocaust happen? It's because that God dispersed the Jews around the world

• 2:24:45Speaker 05

  to teach them a lesson, to force them to repent. What did the Jews do instead? They assimilated into Western society. They engaged in Reformed Judaism. They became secular. They became intellectuals. They want to stay in Germany and the United States, when they should have returned to Israel to build the temple of God and to repent. So God had to teach them a lesson. And the lesson was the Holocaust. Okay?

• 2:25:13Danny Jones?

  Got it.

• 2:25:14Speaker 05

  Okay, so the same thing is happening today where most Jews are secular. There's 40% of Jews in Israel.

• 2:25:22Danny Jones?

  Including Netanyahu, right?

• 2:25:23Speaker 05

  Yeah. 40% of Jews in Israel are secular. One-third of American Jews are secular. God cannot have this, okay? God wants Jews to repent and to worship Him so they can be together. So given all that's happening, the only thing that can force repentance among the Jews is a major tragedy for the Jews, very similar to the Holocaust. Okay, that's number two, to have the Jews return to Israel and to repent. And number three is the building of the third temple, which means the destruction of the Alexic Mosque in Jerusalem. So like, God can come to earth and be with the Jews again. Okay?

• 2:26:07Speaker 05

  So this is what Rebbe Schneerson, given his cabalistic leanings, believe must happen. Now, why am I saying this? It's because if you look at all three things, they track with current events.

• 2:26:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah, they do. This is one of the crazier things. When I, when I initially heard you say this, I thought it was completely batshit crazy. And then the more I thought about it, and the more I saw happening, and the more I saw these public events playing out with Netanyahu on camera, who's a very smart guy, like Netanyahu is not dumb by any stretch of the imagination. I thought, okay, maybe this guy's starting to lose his fastball, right? He's saying shit in front of cameras, like, listen, class, we have to buy TikTok, looking like a mobster, and, and other things, and that are, are just unbelievably terrible for PR for Israel, right? And it's like, either this guy just lost his mind.

• 2:26:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:26:58Danny Jones?

  Or he's doing this on purpose.

• 2:26:59Speaker 05

  He's doing it on purpose, yeah.

• 2:27:00Danny Jones?

  And it's just, it's really hard for me to cope with. That, that's actually, and again, like, he's not a religious guy. So like, and, and also, like, I thought about this. I can't imagine, I have a lot of Jewish friends. I've always had, I have a bunch of Jewish friends, friends. And if I asked them in today's day, I mean antisemitism, antisemitism, like, yeah, it's, it's ramping up online. You have, there was a crazy thing that happened in Tampa the other day, where some guy like went to a synagogue and like, like with a gun or something, got arrested. Like, there's a lot of, lots of these types of things happening more, more,

• 2:27:44Danny Jones?

  more recently, like a lot more of them popping up. And obviously, there's lots of antisemitism online. But, I mean, I could call up any of my Jewish friends right now and ask them like, hey, uh, if antisemitism, you know, continued on this trajectory where it is now and got a little bit worse over the next few years, would it ever convince you to move back to Israel? I think they would say, fuck no. I don't think they would ever want to go back to Israel. You know, I think maybe a certain types of Jewish folks who are more religious might do that. But I don't think the secular ones could ever be convinced to go back.

• 2:28:26Speaker 05

  Well.

• 2:28:27Danny Jones?

  Do you think that they could?

• 2:28:28Speaker 05

  Well, I mean, if we were talking the year 1910, 1920, and like, you know, like, so they want to build this nation called Israel. It's, it's in the middle of a desert. It's really, it's literally a desert.

• 2:28:39Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:39Speaker 05

  And it's, it's already, people are already living there. And like, they want to convince Jews to go back to Israel. And we were like, there's no way they could succeed. There's absolutely no way. The Jews are really established in the United States and throughout Europe.

• 2:28:55Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:28:56Speaker 05

  And both of these societies are very tolerant, very welcoming of Jews. They're very successful where they are. Why the hell would any Jews go to Israel?

• 2:29:08Danny Jones?

  Right. But they did.

• 2:29:11Speaker 05

  But, but they did. Right?

• 2:29:16Danny Jones?

  So what's holding them back from rebuilding this temple and doing this whole thing?

• 2:29:21Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:29:22Danny Jones?

  Bringing back the Antichrist or whatever they want to do?

• 2:29:25Speaker 05

  Right. So right now, the foundation stone for the third temple is also where the Isaac Mosque is.

• 2:29:34Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 2:29:35Speaker 05

  The Isaac Mosque is the third holiest site in the Islamic tradition, in the Islamic world. Right? So there's Mecca, Medina, and there is the Isaac Mosque, where they believe is where Mohammed ascended to heaven. So if they were to destroy the Isaac Mosque in order to build the third temple, this would ignite sectarian violence throughout the world. And this is also part of the eschatology, because this is really the war of Gog and Magog.

• 2:30:08Speaker 05

  This is all part of the plan as well. Now, certain things about the Isaac Mosque is

• 2:30:16Speaker 05

  to build the third temple, you need certain preconditions. A major precondition is you would need a perfect red heifer to sacrifice on the grounds of the mosque in order to consecrate the grounds to build the third temple. And they have the perfect red heifer. So this guy in Texas, he bioengineered perfect red heifers.

• 2:30:44Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 2:30:45Speaker 05

  Yes, the red heifers in Texas. And like Steve can Google this right now.

• 2:30:49Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 2:30:50Speaker 05

  And they were transported to Israel about two years ago. So now Israel has

• 2:30:56Danny Jones?

  A genetically engineered red heifer.

• 2:30:58Speaker 05

  That's right. That is perfect. And for, I'm not joking here, guys.

• 2:31:05Danny Jones?

  Texas man ships red heifer to Israel, and he's wearing a yarmulke for ceremony. The Fort Worth Star.

• 2:31:13Speaker 05

  This is very well known. Okay?

• 2:31:15Danny Jones?

  Well, look at this. Look at this YouTube video. Texas red heifers' arrival stirs prophetic

• 2:31:22Danny Jones?

  excitement in Israel in September of 2022.

• 2:31:25Speaker 05

  Okay, so that's number one.

• 2:31:27Danny Jones?

  Jesus.

• 2:31:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, they're serious about this, man. They got millions of dollars in years and years just to bioengineer a perfect red heifer. Okay, they're very serious about this. Okay, that's number one. The perfect red heifers are in place. Number two is there's the organization that wants to build a third temple, something called a Temple Institute. The Temple Institute. And they've already built the third temple, like brick by brick. And so like all that they do is move this third temple to the site. Okay, it's called the Temple Institute.

• 2:31:59Danny Jones?

  They prefabbed it and they can just go like drop it?

• 2:32:02Speaker 05

  Exactly. They prefabbed it. Okay, that's number two. Number three is for the past two years, there have been archaeological surveys underneath the Isaac Mosque. And people suspect that what they're really trying to do is undermine foundations of the Isaac Mosque. Because if that would have happened, and there's this war going on between Israel and Iran, right? If Iran were to lob a missile over Jerusalem, they could implode the Isaac Mosque and blame it on Iranians.

• 2:32:34Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:32:35Speaker 05

  And in fact, there's a video of this Jewish rabbi in Israel saying how this is the perfect plan to cause war between the Persians and the Arabs, right? Because the Iranians are Persians and Saudi Arabia, they're Arabs, and just have them kill each other, right? And that'd be perfect. Do you want to watch the video?

• 2:32:56Danny Jones?

  Sure, yeah, yeah.

• 2:32:57Speaker 05

  Okay?

• 2:32:57Danny Jones?

  You got it?

• 2:32:58Speaker 05

  So you have to Google this, Steve, okay? But it's basically Israel, rabbi, Isaac Mosque, missile. While you look for

• 2:33:08Danny Jones?

  Al-Aqsa Mosque. You want to use the restroom?

• 2:33:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:33:11Danny Jones?

  All right, cool. We'll pause real quick. Hit it, Steve.

• 2:33:15Speaker 03

  We don't know. Maybe one of the missiles will hit the mosque and clear the place for the third Veta Mikdash. That could also be a miracle.

• 2:33:28Speaker 03

  If it was up to me, the last time when they shot hundreds of missiles, I would pretend that one missile came from Iran and shoot it down. You know, then all the Arabs will go against Iran. It will be the end of the problems. You make them fight with each other, this bunch of lunatics. Never too late. You deal with a bunch of cowards. The Israeli leaders, they just want to pass the week. Let us survive this week. They don't think long term.

• 2:33:59Danny Jones?

  Some of the shit that comes out of the mouths of these people.

• 2:34:01Speaker 05

  They're honest about it. They're direct about it.

• 2:34:03Danny Jones?

  They are.

• 2:34:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:34:04Danny Jones?

  And they aren't concerned about what people are going to think, you know? They're not concerned about long-term ramifications of this.

• 2:34:10Speaker 05

  Well, first of all

• 2:34:11Danny Jones?

  Which tracks with them wanting the end time.

• 2:34:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, first of all, I think they think we're too stupid to know what's going on. Also, like as part of

• 2:34:20Danny Jones?

  Have they checked Twitter?

• 2:34:21Speaker 05

  As part of their grand eschatology, they want us to know what's going on.

• 2:34:25Danny Jones?

  Right. Right.

• 2:34:27Speaker 05

  And third of all, I think like they believe it's all part of God's plan, so there's nothing anyone can do to stop it. Okay?

• 2:34:34Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:34:34Speaker 05

  But I'll show you another video, and this is Peter Hexef, who is now obviously the war secretary.

• 2:34:40Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I watched this last night, yeah.

• 2:34:41Speaker 05

  But he's also talking about the beginning of the third temple and how it's God's plan to build the third temple. So can we show the

• 2:34:48Danny Jones?

  Yeah, show that clip of Hexef. It's towards the end of it. I want to say it's about nine minutes in, nine and a half minutes in.

• 2:34:53Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:34:55Danny Jones?

  Where he's talking in front of that, at the podium or whatever, and yeah, right there.

• 2:34:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:34:59Speaker 06

  The Western Wall tunnels.

• 2:35:01Danny Jones?

  A little bit before this?

• 2:35:02Speaker 06

  So much of the old Jewish people of the scripture of this land and the understanding that for years, if not this year in Jerusalem, then next year in Jerusalem. But we are here in Jerusalem.

• 2:35:19Speaker 06

  And today Jennifer and I and others had a chance to go see the Western Wall of the Temple Mount, the Western Wall tunnels, so much of the old city. And as you stand there, you can't help but behold the miracle before you. And it got me thinking about another miracle that I hope all of you don't see too far away. Because 1917 was a miracle, 1948 was a miracle, 1967 was a miracle, 2017, the Declaration of Jerusalem as the capital was a miracle. And there's no reason why the miracle of the re-establishment of the temple on the Temple Mount is not possible.

• 2:36:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah, when he said that, people were gasping in the background.

• 2:36:04Speaker 05

  It's part of God's plan, right? Because how else can you explain how history has developed, right? He's saying how 1917, the Balfour Declaration is a miracle.

• 2:36:12Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 2:36:13Speaker 05

  1948, the founding of the state of Israel is a miracle. 1967, the war against the Arabs is a miracle.

• 2:36:18Danny Jones?

  Moving of the capital to Jerusalem.

• 2:36:20Speaker 05

  It's all a miracle, right? And what is important is, you know, in July, Donald Trump was in Ankara, Turkey for a NATO conference. And

• 2:36:33Danny Jones?

  This past month?

• 2:36:34Speaker 05

  In July, in early July.

• 2:36:37Danny Jones?

  This past July, though?

• 2:36:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's right. And intelligence, Israel's told him, look, there's a bomb on your plane, Air Force One. So Donald Trump sneaks out of Air Force One on a catering truck. And this is reported, okay? This is recent news, right?

• 2:36:54Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:36:55Speaker 05

  And like the news reporters are still on the plane.

• 2:37:00Danny Jones?

  They told him to stay on the plane.

• 2:37:01Speaker 05

  They told him to stay on the plane. Most of his cabinet are still on the plane. Karen Lovett is still on the plane, okay? He brings two people with him. There are Peter Hexef, his war secretary, the guy who's calling for the third temple, and also Natalie Harp. Okay, so there's a lot of scrutiny around Natalie Harp. Who is Natalie Harp? Natalie Harp is someone who is very close with Trump. And basically, she writes off Trump's social media posts, okay? And remember a few months ago how Trump released a tweet social of him being Jesus?

• 2:37:40Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 2:37:40Speaker 05

  That's Natalie Harp. This woman, who's, you know, like 35, 36, she literally believes Trump is Jesus. So this is a new story of how she was not allowed on the motorcade with Trump. So she forced herself on the back of an SUV, the trunk of an SUV, just so she could ride with Trump in the motorcade.

• 2:38:06Danny Jones?

  Didn't she also sleep in the locker room, you said?

• 2:38:08Speaker 05

  And there's another story of how Trump was at Bedminster Golf Club, and there was no room for her. So it's like, fine, I'll just sleep in the locker room. So that's not who Natalie Harp is. And Natalie Harp is probably the person closest to Trump.

• 2:38:22Danny Jones?

  She Jewish?

• 2:38:23Speaker 05

  She's not Jewish, okay? But there are people around Trump who are very close with him, who are not Jewish, but they are Christian Zionists. And this includes Peter Hexef.

• 2:38:33Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:38:33Speaker 05

  And it also includes Sean Hannity. It also includes Natalie Harp. Right? And I think that why they're so influential around Trump is after January 6th, 2020, Trump was isolated. There were a lot of people who were close to Trump, even his own daughter, who abandoned him because of the controversy around January 6th. But certain individuals who did not abandon him, they include Natalie Harp, Sean Hannity, Mary Medeson. Okay? And that's why they

• 2:39:06Speaker 05

  are so influential around Trump. Natalie Harp literally believes Trump is Jesus.

• 2:39:12Danny Jones?

  She said this, or you're saying this because of her post?

• 2:39:15Speaker 05

  Just the way she behaves.

• 2:39:16Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:39:17Speaker 05

  Right? I mean, I mean, I mean, everyone's like, she's just crazy, but isn't it just easier to believe that she literally believes Trump is Jesus and he's doing God's work? And Trump has him with, Trump has her with him all the time.

• 2:39:36Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:39:36Speaker 05

  So that tells us that Trump probably believes it's himself.

• 2:39:39Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:39:41Danny Jones?

  So

• 2:39:45Danny Jones?

  What is the whole Gog Magog thing?

• 2:39:48Speaker 05

  Okay, so in this eschatology.

• 2:39:51Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:39:52Speaker 05

  Okay, the world ends when the Jews repent.

• 2:39:57Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:39:58Speaker 05

  When the Jews call for God. But the Jews will only call for God at the moment of their worst suffering. At the moment when their very existence is most threatened. That's when they know the Messiah is coming. Because when all is lost, God will save them. Okay, so the moment of the greatest despair for Israel will be the war of Gog Magog. And in this eschatology, they believe that it will be an alliance of Russia and Persia that will attack Israel. An alliance between the Orthodox Church and the Islamic world that would try to destroy Israel. And at this moment, all Jews around the world will call to God.

• 2:40:43Speaker 05

  They will repent because the very existence of the Jews is being threatened. And at this time, God will come and save the world. Christians believe this will force the return of Jesus. Jews believe this will force the coming of the Messiah.

• 2:41:00Danny Jones?

  And is there something to do, like, is there a connection between all of the wars in the Middle East, including the Iran War? And maybe even the Russia-Ukraine war that connects to this? Like, does it have to be like worldwide chaos?

• 2:41:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, that's right. So if you look at Habbat Luvitch.

• 2:41:24Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:41:24Speaker 05

  They are throughout the world, okay? And they are most dominant in a few places. They are dominant in the United States. They are dominant in Israel, of course, right? And Habbat Luvitch has influence over Trump, and they also have influence over Netanyahu. But what people don't appreciate is Habbat Luvitch is also influential in Russia. And they have a very strong alliance with Putin. In fact, one of Putin's officials came out and said that Habbat Luvitch, it is a supremacist cult. It's a cult, and Putin fired him. Okay? Habbat Luvitch is also very prominent in Ukraine because that's where they're from.

• 2:42:06Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:42:06Speaker 05

  And what's really interesting is that this was all engineered by Rebbe Snerzen. Because go back to 1970s, okay? 1970s, Rebbe Snerzen was supporting Harris Jackson. And Harry Jackson wanted the Soviet Union to allow Jews to immigrate to Israel.

• 2:42:33Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 2:42:33Speaker 05

  Now, if you watch YouTube, okay? There are lots of people who worship Rebbe Snerzen. And it's too long a video, okay? But in one of the videos, which was about an hour long, a rabbi who was a translator for Rebbe Snerzen tells a story of how Rebbe Snerzen communicated with the Habbat Luvitch in the Soviet Union back in 1970s. Because at this time, Habbat Luvitch was being persecuted by the Soviet authorities.

• 2:42:59Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:43:00Speaker 05

  So what happened was that the Habbat Lubavitch movement was under a lot of scrutiny. And they wanted to know if they should immigrate or should they stay in the Soviet Union? So they sent a message to Rebbe Snerzen in Brooklyn. And Brooklyn, and Rebbe Snerzen then asked one of his rabbis to go to the Soviet Union and give two Bibles to two powerful rabbis of the Habbat Lubavitch movement, okay? And he didn't even know what his mission was. But he was told to give a Bible to these two individuals. So he goes, he does this, and the first person opens the Bible. And there's a page that is marked.

• 2:43:42Speaker 05

  He opens it, he reads the story, and he's like, oh, I understand now. Rebbe Snerzen wants me to immigrate to Israel. But right now, the Soviet authorities won't let us immigrate. So what should I do? Well, I should trust the rabbi because he's a prophet. And we know we will be allowed to immigrate. And I will prepare my flock to move to Israel when the time is ready, okay?

• 2:44:07Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:44:08Speaker 05

  And the person, the emissary, then goes to a second person. The second person opens the Bible and says to another page, and he's like, oh, the rabbi has told me to stay in the Soviet Union. So that's what I'll do. I will prepare my flock to weather the storm and stay in the Soviet Union forever. Okay? So 1970s, Rebbe Snerzen had this all mapped out. He knew exactly who should be where. Which rabbi should be in Ukraine or in Russia or in Israel? He had it all mapped out in his head. Laura Loomer recently visited Ukraine, and he met with two people.

• 2:44:47Speaker 05

  He met with Zelensky, and she met with the head of the Habbat Lubavitch movement in Ukraine. And we can fact check this.

• 2:44:56Danny Jones?

  Laura Loomer? The crazy face lady?

• 2:44:58Speaker 05

  Yes, I don't know what's going on. Why is Habbat Luvitch all over the news? But just Google, did Laura Loomer meet with Habbat Luvitch in Ukraine?

• 2:45:08Danny Jones?

  Are you talking about Lindsey Graham?

• 2:45:09Speaker 05

  No, Laura Loomer.

• 2:45:10Danny Jones?

  What? That's crazy.

• 2:45:14Danny Jones?

  I believe you.

• 2:45:16Speaker 05

  We can fact check it right now. I can't believe it when I saw it as well. Like, why are they everywhere?

• 2:45:20Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:45:22Speaker 05

  Okay?

• 2:45:22Danny Jones?

  Yeah, well, she's also like a psycho.

• 2:45:25Speaker 05

  Look at this.

• 2:45:27Danny Jones?

  Laura Loomer met with Rabbi Moshe, whatever, the Shabbat affiliated rabbi who holds the title of chief rabbi in Ukraine during her trip to Kiev in July of 2026.

• 2:45:38Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 2:45:39Speaker 06

  The guardian. Yeah, that's good.

• 2:45:41Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:45:42Speaker 05

  Like, what's going on here? Why are they everywhere? And why is everyone meeting with them, right? So Laura Loomer met with Zelensky.

• 2:45:48Danny Jones?

  Well, she's like a nobody. She just gets a lot of attention online because everybody hates her.

• 2:45:51Speaker 05

  She has a lot of influence on the White House, though.

• 2:45:53Danny Jones?

  Does she really?

• 2:45:54Speaker 05

  So I was in Los Angeles, and I met with Max Blumenthal. Do you know Max?

• 2:45:58Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I'm familiar with Max Blumenthal.

• 2:46:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, you know, he was in Iran for the Ayatollah's funeral. He comes back to.

• 2:46:07Danny Jones?

  Max was?

• 2:46:08Speaker 05

  Yes, he comes back to the United States, and his devices were confiscated. And before, and now Max is suing the Department of Homeland Security because he wants to know who did this. And his suspicion is it was Laura Loomer. Because Laura Loomer was posting how

• 2:46:26Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 2:46:27Speaker 05

  how Max was a traitor or, you know, this guy should be prosecuted for doing this. So Laura Loomer has a lot of pull in the White House. I don't know why.

• 2:46:36Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:46:37Speaker 05

  But apparently, she's able to get people fired in the White House as well.

• 2:46:41Danny Jones?

  Yeah, well, it seems like anyone who kisses Trump's ass hard enough will get some sway. You know, like, he'll bring them in as long as they, like, talk nice about him, build him up, kiss his ass. You know, it's like, I had a hard time believing that Trump could do this whole war in Iran just because Netanyahu schmoozed him. Said, oh, you're going to be looked at like, you know, one of the greatest presidents in American history. Everyone's gonna love you. It's gonna be the best thing America has ever accomplished when you take down Iran. It's gonna be super easy. You know, just with words like that and compliments and buttering him up.

• 2:47:23Danny Jones?

  I found it very hard to believe that that would be possible. But the more I think about it is like, maybe. Because it seems to be that way with everyone else. You know, all you really need to do is just, you know, talk nice about him in public.

• 2:47:38Speaker 05

  And the people who have the most influence over Donald Trump right now happen to believe in this eschatology. Yeah. Netanyahu, but also like Sean Hannity. They talk on the phone every day. Fox News, he watches three hours of Fox News every single day. Natalie Har, Peter Hegseth. The people who most believe in this have the most sway over Trump right now.

• 2:47:59Danny Jones?

  Well, do you think that the Epstein stuff had anything to do with him invading Iran? Because there's that great, there's, not great, but it's a fucking crazy email that was in the Epstein files. I believe it was in 2017 or 2018, a year before he died, where he said in an email to, fuck, I can't remember who the email was to. But Epstein wrote in an email saying that if Trump feels cornered like a rat, he will invade Iran.

• 2:48:29Speaker 05

  That could be true, but, you know, I predicted he would do so two years ago, right? And how was I able to do so?

• 2:48:37Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:48:38Speaker 05

  Just pattern recognition, right? I'm just connecting the dots. Trump comes into office, right? And what does he do? He gets out of the JCPOA.

• 2:48:46Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 2:48:47Speaker 05

  The Iran nuclear deal. But he's like, screw that, we're not doing that. That's number one. Number two is he moves to capital.

• 2:48:53Danny Jones?

  To Jerusalem.

• 2:48:53Speaker 05

  He moves the embassy to Jerusalem, which is a no-go for past presidents. Like, this is the worst thing you could possibly do for the Middle East. But Trump said, screw that, we're moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. That's number two. Number three is he recognized Israel's control of the Golden Heights. Okay, that's number three. Number four is he orders the assassination of Iranian general Qasem Soleimani.

• 2:49:19Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 2:49:19Speaker 05

  Right? You just connect the dots, and you're like, well, then the next logical step is he attacks Iran.

• 2:49:26Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:49:27Speaker 05

  Right, so, so, I mean, there's a, there's a

• 2:49:34Speaker 05

  a pattern of behavior.

• 2:49:36Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:49:37Speaker 05

  Right, and again, like, the only explanation I have is, this is all eschatological. Because just from a pure geopolitical perspective, this makes no sense. None of this makes any sense. Why are you destroying the global economy? Right? I mean, like, the Iranians, everyone knew, the first thing the Iranians will do is, close all the Shuhamu's, and attack the energy infrastructure of

• 2:50:01Danny Jones?

  The Gulf states.

• 2:50:02Speaker 05

  The Gulf states. Why wouldn't they do? So, they have to save themselves, right? You forced their head.

• 2:50:07Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:50:08Speaker 05

  And Trump's like, no, I didn't know that, I didn't know that.

• 2:50:12Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's insane that they didn't game this out.

• 2:50:15Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:50:15Danny Jones?

  It's crazy to me.

• 2:50:16Speaker 05

  Even today, we don't know why this war is happening. Trump has yet to articulate a good reason.

• 2:50:22Danny Jones?

  Well, because we can't let them have a nuclear weapon, according to Hexeth, and that appearance that he made in front of Congress in July.

• 2:50:29Speaker 05

  Right, but remember, before the Americans assassinated the Atolla, he had a fat whip.

• 2:50:36Danny Jones?

  Yes, he did.

• 2:50:37Speaker 05

  Saying, no nuclear weapons for any reason.

• 2:50:40Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 2:50:41Speaker 05

  So, as long as he was in charge.

• 2:50:43Danny Jones?

  Not only no nuclear, no development of nuclear weapons, but not to ever use a nuclear weapon, let alone develop one. I actually had a former Mossad guy on here telling me that, and that's true.

• 2:50:53Speaker 05

  Right, so, so, so you don't kill the guy. Iran cannot have nuclear weapons.

• 2:50:57Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:50:58Speaker 05

  Because it's a theocracy. They take the religious law seriously.

• 2:51:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah, John, yeah, John Kerryaki was on the show, he was telling me, he's a former CIA officer who worked in the Middle East, he was one of the guys, he captured Abu Zabeda during the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he, he was telling me that there was two of these national intelligence assessments. And this is when all, whatever, seventeen or eighteen of the US intelligence agencies, they all get together, and individually, they all go into their corners and do an assessment on, does Iran have a nuclear weapon program? And independently, all eighteen intelligence agencies went and did their assessment, and

• 2:51:44Danny Jones?

  the head of each agency came together in a roundtable, and unanimously decided that they all agree that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon. This happened twice.

• 2:51:53Speaker 05

  Yes, yes. There's also something called the Millennium Challenge, where, like, twenty years ago, they war game a war with Iran. And the conclusion was, the United States could not possibly defeat Iran in a war.

• 2:52:08Danny Jones?

  When was this?

• 2:52:08Speaker 05

  This is, this is called the Millennium Challenge, I believe it was two thousand and two. Okay, so, so maybe Steve, you

• 2:52:14Danny Jones?

  What was it?

• 2:52:15Speaker 05

  The Millennium Challenge.

• 2:52:16Danny Jones?

  Millennium.

• 2:52:16Speaker 05

  The Millennium Challenge.

• 2:52:17Danny Jones?

  Millennium Challenge.

• 2:52:18Speaker 05

  I believe it was two thousand and two, okay? I could be wrong, but I believe it was two thousand and two.

• 2:52:21Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:52:21Speaker 05

  And the war game, the conclusion was, the United, that Iran would use asymmetrical warfare.

• 2:52:30Danny Jones?

  A two hundred and fifty dollar military war game, wow.

• 2:52:36Danny Jones?

  The largest, most expensive war game in US history, held from July twenty four to August fifteen, two thousand and two, to test network-centric warfare concepts. Keep going down.

• 2:52:51Danny Jones?

  What does it say about Iran? Keep going.

• 2:52:54Speaker 05

  Right, so, they war game a war against Iran. And they kept on losing, because Iran could just use asymmetrical warfare, just drones against their aircraft carriers. There's absolutely no way for the aircraft carriers to protect against a drone swarm, which is exactly what's happening right now.

• 2:53:14Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:53:14Speaker 05

  So they knew exactly what's gonna happen, in two thousand and two.

• 2:53:17Danny Jones?

  Right, and we spend, like, billions of dollars on a single aircraft carrier, and the type of equipment that we build and we've developed is, yeah, it's shiny and it's new, but it's not suitable for warfare against a country that does war like that.

• 2:53:38Speaker 05

  Exactly. Another issue is, sailors live in the aircraft carrier, and there's only so much time that human beings can live in a confined space, right?

• 2:53:48Danny Jones?

  Well, they're already trying to commit suicide off the aircraft carrier.

• 2:53:50Speaker 05

  Because they've been deployed for nine months. And like, the maximum you're supposed to be out deployed is six months. So they're all going crazy, right? And rather than admit the problem, Peter Hexeth is trying to bury the problem.

• 2:54:04Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:54:05Speaker 05

  Right?

• 2:54:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah, the story just came out a couple of days ago, where there's at least one or two sailors on one of the aircraft carriers, Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln, maybe, who jumped overboard trying to kill themselves, and one guy was in the water for like, an hour, and they didn't tell his wife or his family. They like, one of his friends had to reach out to his wife and tell him about that.

• 2:54:26Speaker 05

  So, again, it's very hard to understand what's going on unless you look at it from an eschatological lens.

• 2:54:32Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:54:32Speaker 05

  Right? They literally believe this is the end of the world, and they're preparing for the coming of God.

• 2:54:44Danny Jones?

  So how do you predict that this Iran war is gonna play out? How much longer do you think it's gonna last? And what are gonna be the downstream effects of it?

• 2:54:55Speaker 05

  This war is almost unstoppable at this point, because what's happened is, both sides have become eschatological. So, the United States has become more extreme, so Trump is surrounding himself with people who are gonna reinforce his religious zeal, people like Natalie Harp and Peter Hexeth. Okay? And this really has gone all in, in this eschatology as well. But the Iranians have changed as well. So, at the onset of this war, the Iranians were led by a very pragmatic leadership.

• 2:55:37Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 2:55:38Speaker 05

  But the Americans have come, have killed them all.

• 2:55:41Danny Jones?

  Right, they killed Soleimani, and they literally did nothing.

• 2:55:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:55:45Danny Jones?

  There was no reaction.

• 2:55:46Speaker 05

  That's right. So, a lot of the pragmatic leadership, the wise moderates, have been eliminated, and whose rising in the ranks in the IRGC, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corp, are these radicals who are eschatological, they're young, they're angry, and they want vengeance for what the United States is doing to Iran. And they are eschatological, because they believe that this is, this is the end of the world, this is the war to end all wars, and when this happens, then their Messiah,

• 2:56:26Speaker 05

  called the Twelfth Imam, the Magdi, will come to lead them. Okay, so this has become a religious war on both sides. And it's almost intentional, because, remember, the United States had an MOU with Iran.

• 2:56:45Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 2:56:45Speaker 05

  And the United States kept on regnaging on the MOU, which embarrassed the moderates in Iran.

• 2:56:55Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:56:55Speaker 05

  Right, it basically delegitimized them, and now the zealots are in control. So, what Iran has said is, we now refuse to negotiate with Americans, and also, from now on, we will go on offensive, we will no longer retaliate against bombing, we will now initiate attack.

• 2:57:18Danny Jones?

  So, as of today, what is the date today? August nineteenth, there's no negotiating, there's no, they're not trying to negotiate at all.

• 2:57:26Speaker 05

  It's done, the Iranians no longer want to negotiate, and there's even discussion that the Iranians will attack as far as Europe, because they believe that a lot of weaponry is coming from Europe. So, if this would have happened, what's gonna happen is, the Ukraine war and the Iran war would merge together to engulf the entire world.

• 2:57:52Danny Jones?

  How the hell would they merge together?

• 2:57:55Speaker 05

  So, Iran is being embargoed by the United States right now. And there are two countries that support Iran, right? You have China, you have Russia.

• 2:58:06Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 2:58:07Speaker 05

  China supports Iran through the, through railways, through Central Asia. Russia supports Iran through the Caspian Sea, right? Can we draw a map, Steve? It's really important we see the map, okay? So, we'll just see a map of Central Asia and the Middle East, and I'll show you how the wars will link up.

• 2:58:24Danny Jones?

  Is Zelensky going to try to supply the United States with drones and shit?

• 2:58:30Speaker 05

  No, no, it's much worse than that, okay? So, so, so you see Ukraine, right? You see Ukraine, you see Iran, okay?

• 2:58:39Danny Jones?

  Uh, yes, I see Ukraine, and I see Iran.

• 2:58:41Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:58:42Danny Jones?

  Punch in a little bit, Steve, just a little bit.

• 2:58:44Speaker 05

  Okay, okay, here we go, okay. All right, so, right now, there are two, there are two wars, the one, the war in Ukraine, Eastern Ukraine, and the war in Iran.

• 2:58:52Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:58:52Speaker 05

  Now, Russia supplies Iran through the Caspian Sea, right? You see that big lake in the middle, okay?

• 2:58:59Danny Jones?

  Yep, yep.

• 2:59:00Speaker 05

  What happened a couple of weeks ago was, the Ukrainians launched a drone strike against an Iranian cargo ship, killing one person in the Caspian Sea. You see how far Ukraine is from the Caspian Sea, right?

• 2:59:13Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 2:59:14Speaker 05

  Zelensky admitted it was the Ukrainians who did this, and he said, though, and he said it was justified, because the Iranians are supplying the Russians in the war. Okay? But people suspect that it's because Zelensky is trying to get American financing and support for the war in Ukraine, and that's why he's trying to merge these two wars.

• 2:59:38Speaker 05

  Right, so, so as this war continues, what's gonna happen is the United States will try to cut off Russia's supplies to Tehran, and that means a war in the Caspian, which could involve Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. And if these three involve, then all, then, then, like, basically, you have the merging of these two fronts, the Ukraine and the Iranian fronts. Also, what's been happening is Iran's proxies have been brought into the war. Okay, so at the onset of the war, it was Israel United States versus Iran. Now, there are more, there have been more fronts opened up, okay? So you have Hezbollah in Lebanon,

• 3:00:19Speaker 05

  Israel is attacking Hezbollah in Lebanon. There's talk of Syria attacking Hezbollah from the north, okay? That's one front. Another front is, if you go down to Yemen, okay, there's something called the Bab al Mandad Strait, okay? You, you, you, you see, you see this, right? Okay? This is where the Houthis are. The Houthis are also a proxy of Iranians, and they have been brought into the war. And what, and what is important is, the Houthis live in mountains. It is impossible to attack mountains. They tried during Operation Prosperity Garden, it did not work, okay? The Houthis are in striking range of the entire Saudi

• 3:00:59Speaker 05

  Arabian energy infrastructure, and they've been attacking Aramco oil fields with their drones. Because at the end of the day, the entire Middle East is this one giant oil field that you can blow up with ballistic missiles or drone strikes, okay? So you can see how this war is expanding very rapidly throughout the world. Something else that is happening is, on the economic front, Japan is under a lot of pressure. And the reason why is, Japan provides a lot of liquidity to the world. It's something called the Japanese yen carry trade, okay? And, and this, this is very complicated concept, but I'll try

• 3:01:40Speaker 05

  my best to explain it in reversible terms. Basically, the idea is this, for the past 30 years, Japan has been suffering from deflation. So, the government is like, we'll just lend money at zero interest to Japanese banks and corporations in order to refinance the Japanese economy, right? But if you're getting money at 0%, you're like, why don't we just take this money and then buy US Treasuries, which gives you 5% a year? It's called the yen carry trade. So it's like, free money, right? So what's happening is, Japan is literally financing the entire world with the yen carry trade. But with this war in the Middle East, Japan is losing most of its oil supply, which is putting strain on the Japanese yen. So

• 3:02:24Speaker 05

  that's why these past few months, the Japanese yen has been sinking, because investors believe the Japanese economy is heading towards collapse. In order to shore up the yen-

• 3:02:32Danny Jones?

  Where do they, where do they buy their oil from?

• 3:02:34Speaker 05

  Uh, from the Middle East.

• 3:02:36Danny Jones?

  From, specifically where, though?

• 3:02:38Speaker 05

  Uh, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait.

• 3:02:40Danny Jones?

  Okay, all of them, okay.

• 3:02:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, like, maybe 80% of Japanese oil comes from the Middle East, right? And Japan still has strategic petroleum reserves, but it's gonna run out in like, six months. And Japan doesn't have any oil, okay? So investors are putting strain on the Japanese yen, which means that eventually what's gonna happen is, Japan is going to have to end the yen carry trade. And so Japan can no longer finance the world. And then, what is important is, Japan right now is the world's biggest buyer of US Treasuries. Japan has like, over a trillion dollars in US Treasuries. And if Japan stops buying US Treasuries, then

• 3:03:24Speaker 05

  this is gonna put, this is gonna put strain on the US economy. And it's possible that this will burst two bubbles, the AI bubble, and the private credit bubble in the United States. And this would cause tremendous contagion throughout the United States. Basically, it would cause a white collar apocalypse. You know how during the 80s and 90s, a lot of boot collar jobs were shipped off to China, right? And so workers suffered. Well, if the economy were to collapse, then a lot of white collar people would lose their livelihoods, right? The middle class would cease to exist in the United States.

• 3:03:55Danny Jones?

  Right. Yeah, Japan's the largest owner of foreign holder of US Treasuries, approximately 1.16 trillion. So, in the beginning of this Iran thing, like, one of the craziest things, like, I was, there was a documentary that Vice did where Shane Smith went to Iran and was talking to one of the spokespeople for Iran. And they were showing how, I forget which president it was, but I think it was in the 70s, one of the presidents gifted Iran with its first

• 3:04:35Danny Jones?

  nuclear reactor, and it was called Atoms for Peace, to help them with nuclear energy.

• 3:04:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:04:43Danny Jones?

  And, you know, the question was asked, like, if, it seems like nukes are the biggest question, or the biggest excuse that everyone's using to go after you, like, they can't have a nuclear program, they can't have a nuclear program. Eisenhower did the Atoms for Peace thing, where they gave them their first five megawatt nuclear reactor. And it's still sitting there in Tehran. And it's just funny that now, like, that's the, that's the excuse they're using to invade. But, so he was asking, like, this is, you know, a hotbed, or this is like, one of the primary locations on Earth for oil reserves, like, you're surrounded by oil. Why not just use oil? Like, why do you need nuclear energy?

• 3:05:26Danny Jones?

  It seems like that would be a, a huge, a huge answer to all of your biggest problems.

• 3:05:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:05:32Danny Jones?

  And the guy gave, gave kind of a bullshit answer. He kind of was like, his answer was like, oh, climate change. But if I was a leader of Iran, and like, they were accusing me of, of having a nuclear program and doing that, and I was like, no, I need to have this much nuclear energy, we need to refine this much to have nuclear power, I would just fucking go off nuclear, and I would just do all oil, fossil fuels.

• 3:05:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:05:52Danny Jones?

  You know, like, don't you think that seems, would seem like a reasonable thing for them to do?

• 3:05:59Speaker 05

  Yeah. Look, I think, if you just look at the Middle East, not, not a lot of things make sense, okay? So one of the biggest mysteries is, why did the United States invade Iraq in 2003? Right? Because, if you just look at, if you just look at Saddam Hussein at this point, his advisers went to him and says, look, I think the Americans are trying to invade us. Saddam Hussein's like, there, there's no way they would invade us. The reason why is this-

• 3:06:26Danny Jones?

  It makes no sense, right?

• 3:06:27Speaker 05

  If they came and destroyed Iraq, Iran would become the regional super, superpower. Why would they do that? Why not, why not just have Iraq and Iran kill each other, like, like, like, like what happened in 1980s, Iraq, Iran War, right? Power to power. That's how empires behave. There's no way they would come destroy us. So he just, no, it's not gonna happen. It makes no sense. Even today, it makes no sense. Unless-

• 3:06:55Danny Jones?

  You have some crazy, some crazy religious zealots that have the answer to everything.

• 3:06:59Speaker 05

  Yeah. So, so, so, so let's look, look, look at another video, okay? This is Wesley Clark talking to Amy Goodman. And this is after 9/11. And Wesley Clark is saying how the United States has this plan to invade seven countries-

• 3:07:17Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:07:18Speaker 05

  Right?

• 3:07:19Danny Jones?

  In like, a certain amount of years.

• 3:07:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. In five years.

• 3:07:22Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:07:23Speaker 05

  And-

• 3:07:24Danny Jones?

  How long is this video, Steve? Seven minutes. You know which part of the video he says this? Go ahead, hit play.

• 3:07:34Speaker 06

  About 10 days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon, and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld, and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs, just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who had used, used to work for me. And one of the generals called me, and he said, sir, you gotta, come in, you gotta come in and talk to me a second. I said, well, you're too busy. He said, no, no. He says, we've made the decision, we're going to war with Iraq. This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, we're going to war with Iraq? Why? He said, I don't know. He said, I guess they don't know what else to do. So, I said, well, did they find some information, connecting Saddam to Al Qaeda? He said, no, no. He says, there's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq. He said, I guess it's like, we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we got a good military and we can take down governments. And he said, I guess if, if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like

• 3:08:17Speaker 06

  a nail. So, I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time, we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, he said, I just, he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense Office today. And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're gonna take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. I said, is it classified? He said, yes, sir. I said, I said, well, don't show it to me. And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, you remember that? He said, sir, I didn't show you that memo, I didn't show it to you.

• 3:08:49Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, what did you say his name was?

• 3:08:51Speaker 06

  I'm not gonna give you his name.

• 3:08:53Speaker 02

  So go through the countries again?

• 3:08:55Speaker 06

  Well, starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebanon, then Libya, then Somalia and Sudan, and then back to Iran. So, when you look at Iran, you say, is it a replay? It's not exactly a replay, but here's the truth, that Iran from the beginning has seen that the presence of the United States in Iraq was a threat. A blessing, because we took out Saddam Hussein and the Ba'athists. They couldn't handle him. We could, took care of it for them. But also a threat, because they knew that they were next on the hit list. And so, of course, they got engaged. They lost a million people during the war with Iraq. And they got a long and unprotectable, unsecure border. So it was in their vital interest to be deeply involved inside Iraq.

• 3:09:33Speaker 03

  tolerated our attacks on the Balthus, they were happy we captured Saddam Hussein. But they're building up their own network of influence and to cement it, they occasionally give some military assistance and training and advice either directly or indirectly to both the insurgents and the militias. And

• 3:09:47Danny Jones?

  Jesus.

• 3:09:47Speaker 03

  in that sense, it's not exactly parallel because

• 3:09:49Speaker 05

  So there are three things I want to point out about this video, okay?

• 3:09:52Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:09:53Speaker 05

  Number one is, um, they've already achieved six of the seven countries, okay?

• 3:10:02Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:10:02Speaker 05

  Right? They've destroyed Libya, Syria, Iraq.

• 3:10:08Danny Jones?

  Somalia, Sudan.

• 3:10:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, and the last country is Iraq, okay?

• 3:10:12Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:10:12Speaker 05

  So if we think that this war was completely accidental, how do we explain this video?

• 3:10:17Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:10:17Speaker 05

  Okay, um, that's the first point I will make. Second point I will make is this aligns with the clean brick memo of nineteen ninety six. Right? So he's like, you know, where this come from, we don't know. Well, it comes from the clean brick memo. So this, this is something that goes back for a long time. Okay, that's number two. Number three is, uh, people don't appreciate this, but he should not be allowed to say these things. Because this is confidential information. This is a state secret. The guy went to a Pentagon and he's like a US general, so they will tell them the truth, but now he's saying in public. So why would they want us to know this? Also, he's talking this to Amy Goodman. Do you know what Amy Goodman is?

• 3:10:59Danny Jones?

  I'm not familiar. I mean, I'm familiar with who she is, but I don't know her background.

• 3:11:02Speaker 05

  She is one of the most prominent left wing voices in American media. She is extremely anti-war and anti-imperial. So why would he pick this? Why would he pick Amy Goodman to be the person to receive this news and not be like someone like Sean Hannity or Fox News? Who would be more sympathetic towards war against Iraq?

• 3:11:23Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:11:24Speaker 05

  Okay, so it seems kind of planned to me. It's, it's, it's, again, he is a US general who has received confidential information from a source within the Pentagon. And it would be considered, um, you know, um, I mean,

• 3:11:42Danny Jones?

  So you think he's letting out this secret plan to invade all these countries to the public intentionally?

• 3:11:50Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 3:11:51Danny Jones?

  To, to sow distrust in the United States, the American empire?

• 3:11:56Speaker 05

  Or to, to prepare the public for what's about to happen.

• 3:11:59Danny Jones?

  To prepare the public.

• 3:12:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's called predictive programming. You know, like if you tell people what's about to happen, they are less likely to be angry about it. So for example, you know, you know how Donald Trump has been joking about twenty twenty eight, right? He's got this baseball cap saying, you know, like, you know, twenty, Trump twenty twenty eight everywhere. And then during the White House Correspondents Dinner, he's like, hey, I've got a scoop for you guys. I'm gonna run for a third term. It's meant as a joke, but was it

• 3:12:24Danny Jones?

  So Kurt Metzger told me you had a theory

• 3:12:28Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:12:28Danny Jones?

  on the Venezuela operation.

• 3:12:31Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 3:12:32Danny Jones?

  And how this all ties into Trump getting another term. He's gonna, can you explain that? You're saying that when Maduro, uh, goes into his trial, Trump's gonna get him to testify that they stole the election, something like that?

• 3:12:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, so, um, what Trump is obsessed about, okay, more than anything else in the world, is the twenty twenty election and how it was stolen from him.

• 3:12:54Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:12:55Speaker 05

  Okay, he talks about this all the time. The Butler assassination attack, he never talks about it. Okay?

• 3:13:01Danny Jones?

  That's also very weird.

• 3:13:03Speaker 05

  If someone tried to kill you

• 3:13:04Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:13:04Speaker 05

  and you survived, you'd be like, talk about it every single day. He never talks about it.

• 3:13:08Danny Jones?

  Do you have a theory on that?

• 3:13:09Speaker 05

  Um, well, we, we, we go on this later.

• 3:13:11Danny Jones?

  Come back to it.

• 3:13:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, we'll come back, come, come back to it. Okay, but like, not only does he not talk about it, like, no one talks about it. No one in his administration talks about, um, how they tried to kill him, right? But he talks about the twenty twenty election all the time.

• 3:13:28Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:13:28Speaker 05

  How it's stolen from him. He's obsessed about it. He has his entire administration working overtime to, to, um, uncover how they stole it. Remember, Tulsi Gabbard, before she left the DNI, her job was basically to figure out how they stole the elections, right? And the theory is, um, the smart, smartmatic machines.

• 3:13:49Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 3:13:50Speaker 05

  Right, the, the polling machines, the smartmatic machines, okay? So, um, I think that Maduro is a CIA asset. Because otherwise, it's very hard to explain how this operation went so smoothly. And how, um, after Maduro left, the Venezuelan government has been so cooperative. Did you know that Maduro is still the president of Venezuela?

• 3:14:14Danny Jones?

  I did not know that.

• 3:14:14Speaker 05

  He's still the president of Venezuela. There's, there's been no change in leadership.

• 3:14:19Danny Jones?

  He's running it from New York.

• 3:14:21Speaker 05

  It's really weird. He's still technically the president of Venezuela.

• 3:14:25Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 3:14:25Speaker 05

  Even though he is in prison in, uh, in New York.

• 3:14:29Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 3:14:29Speaker 05

  So I think there's a secret deal between Maduro and Trump. And, uh, Maduro is going to testify that the smartmatic machines are rigged. And, um, and the Democrats basically were able to use the smartmatic machines to steal the twenty twenty election.

• 3:14:52Danny Jones?

  And he's gonna use that as an excuse to get another term.

• 3:14:56Speaker 05

  Um, he's been the case, yeah, right? Because honestly, um, if you are the, the American public, you have to believe something weird happened during the, um, twenty twenty election, right? Because Trump won on election night, and then two weeks later, you have all these mail-in ballots come into, um, mail-in, in, in, in, come in and it overturned the election. Now, I, I want to show you a video, okay?

• 3:15:26Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 3:15:27Speaker 05

  So can you find Bernie Sanders, Jimmy Kimmel, the blue tide?

• 3:15:34Danny Jones?

  Blue tide?

• 3:15:35Speaker 05

  Yes. All right?

• 3:15:37Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 3:15:37Speaker 05

  And this happened before the election in November twenty twenty.

• 3:15:44Speaker 05

  Um, no, Jimmy Kimmel, uh, blue tide. No, Jimmy Kimmel.

• 3:15:51Speaker 06

  It's gonna be a short, maybe?

• 3:15:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's a, it's a short video, but, but basically

• 3:15:57Danny Jones?

  What does blue, blue tide mean?

• 3:15:59Speaker 05

  So the, no, so the blue tide

• 3:16:02Danny Jones?

  What is the context of it? Like, what is said?

• 3:16:04Speaker 05

  So, so what, um, Bernie Sanders told Jimmy Kimmel.

• 3:16:08Danny Jones?

  Was he suspended over this?

• 3:16:12Speaker 06

  Oh, Black Tide.

• 3:16:13Speaker 05

  No, Blue Tide.

• 3:16:14Speaker 06

  Oh, okay.

• 3:16:15Speaker 05

  The Blue Tide.

• 3:16:16Speaker 06

  Black Tide is a metal band.

• 3:16:19Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 3:16:20Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 3:16:21Danny Jones?

  Explain what happened.

• 3:16:22Speaker 05

  Okay, so what happened was this, okay? Before, uh, the election, Bernie Sanders appeared on Jimmy Kimmel, um, and said, "Listen, I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen on election night. On election night, it will seem as though Trump had win, had won."

• 3:16:39Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:16:40Speaker 05

  Do not worry, okay? Because what's gonna happen is there are all these, millions of these mail-in ballots that are gonna come in the next two weeks in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. And they are the blue tide. And they will overturn the election and let Biden win. So guys, on election night, do not freak out. Do not riot, do not worry, we've got this. This is before November twenty twenty election. This is Bernie Sanders appearing on Jimmy Kimmel saying this.

• 3:17:12Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 3:17:14Speaker 05

  And like, you're like, how would he know this was gonna happen? Because that's exactly what happened.

• 3:17:22Speaker 05

  That's exactly what happened.

• 3:17:23Danny Jones?

  Can you find that, him talking about mail-in ballots, Bernie Sanders talking about mail-in ballots on before twenty twenty election on Jimmy Kimmel?

• 3:17:31Speaker 05

  I believe it was Jimmy Kimmel, but it might have been Jimmy Fallon.

• 3:17:34Danny Jones?

  Jimmy Fallon.

• 3:17:35Speaker 05

  I, I think it was Jimmy Kimmel, yeah.

• 3:17:36Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 3:17:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, but it's on YouTube.

• 3:17:38Danny Jones?

  Yeah, why would he come out and admit that on a, on a huge

• 3:17:42Speaker 05

  This is before the election, by the way.

• 3:17:43Danny Jones?

  Show like that, right?

• 3:17:44Speaker 05

  This is before the election.

• 3:17:45Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:17:46Speaker 05

  How did he know?

• 3:17:49Speaker 05

  Did you know that six billion dollars were spent on that election? Six billion dollars.

• 3:17:52Danny Jones?

  Between both parties?

• 3:17:53Speaker 05

  No, no, just by the Democrats.

• 3:17:55Danny Jones?

  By the Democrats.

• 3:17:56Speaker 05

  Against Trump. Six billion dollars were spent, were spent to defeat Trump on that, that election.

• 3:18:03Danny Jones?

  That's insane. That's totally crazy.

• 3:18:07Speaker 05

  So it's weird. Uh, I'm not saying the Democrats cheated, but like, I don't understand how Bernie Sanders was able to come out a few weeks before the general election

• 3:18:17Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:18:17Speaker 05

  and make that comment. And that's exactly what happened.

• 3:18:20Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:18:21Speaker 05

  The blue tide.

• 3:18:24Danny Jones?

  Do you think that those, there was anything to those smart manic voting machines? Do you think there was any legitimacy to that? That those things were actually used for voter fraud, maybe in other countries, in other South American countries, or anything like that?

• 3:18:37Speaker 05

  So Glenn Gwynn will mention this, but he lives in Brazil.

• 3:18:41Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:18:42Speaker 05

  And he's saying that every time there's a national presidential election, they were able to, and Brazil's a population of 200 million people, right? But they're able to tabulate results in a day. They're able to like literally tell you that night who won. Why does it take a month in the United States to figure out who won?

• 3:19:00Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:19:00Speaker 05

  Right?

• 3:19:01Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:19:03Speaker 05

  The United States is the most technologically advanced country in the world. Why does it take a month to figure out who won?

• 3:19:08Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:19:09Speaker 05

  It's really strange that way.

• 3:19:10Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:19:11Speaker 05

  Okay, so, so what I think is, if you just look at the two party system, there's a lot of shenanigans in elections.

• 3:19:20Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:19:21Speaker 05

  And they do sort of protect the two party dual op.

• 3:19:24Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:19:24Speaker 05

  And that's why it takes so long to count the votes. Um, to enable cheating. So I think like everyone cheats. I think every election, there's a lot cheating.

• 3:19:38Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:19:38Speaker 05

  And then in 2020, the Democrats cheated better than the Republicans.

• 3:19:41Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I think that makes sense.

• 3:19:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:19:45Danny Jones?

  I think that makes a lot of sense. So, so what do you think happened with the Butler assassination? What do you think that was all about? Cause there's so many weird things about that, that whole thing.

• 3:19:53Speaker 05

  Okay, um, so I think when they do these things, it's a ritual. It's a ceremony of some sort.

• 3:20:01Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:20:02Speaker 05

  Okay. Uh, because remember what happened was that the bullet grazed Trump's right ear and it bled.

• 3:20:11Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 3:20:11Speaker 05

  And then when he fell to the ground and the, and the secret service was trying to remove him from the podium, he said, no, no, no, no. Like my, my shoe, uh, my, my left foot, um, there's no, I, I, I need to get my shoe. And they let him get his shoe. That's really weird, man.

• 3:20:27Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:20:28Speaker 05

  Like if someone's shooting at you, get the hell out of there. Like, no, no, I, I, I, no, I need my shoe. It's my lucky shoe. That's retarded.

• 3:20:35Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:20:35Speaker 05

  Right? And they let him do that, okay? So, so, so this is an anomaly. Um, the right ear is bleeding and the, um, left foot is without a shoe.

• 3:20:49Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:20:50Speaker 05

  So if you go to the Bible, Leviticus.

• 3:20:52Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:20:53Speaker 05

  Um, whenever someone is anointed for a special purpose by God, they have a ceremony. The ceremony is you first make a sacrifice to God and you take the blood of that sacrifice and you dab it on your right ear as well as your left foot.

• 3:21:07Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:21:08Speaker 05

  And that anoints you as the special agent of God, like the chosen one, basically.

• 3:21:14Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:21:15Speaker 05

  Um, so I think that's what happened at Butler. I think it was a staged event in order to anoint Trump for the special mission ahead of him. And, um, he's doing it.

• 3:21:29Danny Jones?

  So you think this could have been a plot by one of these extremist religious groups to perform it unbeknownst to Trump? And then later convince him that he was anointed by God?

• 3:21:47Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 3:21:48Danny Jones?

  Or do you think he was a part of it?

• 3:21:49Speaker 05

  So, um, the bullet grazed his ear, right?

• 3:21:53Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:21:54Speaker 05

  If you talk to any ballistics, if you talk to any ballistics expert, they were like, that's impossible.

• 3:21:58Danny Jones?

  Right, but some guy did get shot in the head.

• 3:22:00Speaker 05

  Wait, wait, I'm saying like, how's it possible for the bullet just grazes the ear? And then magically the ear is fine a week later.

• 3:22:08Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:22:08Speaker 05

  Right? And you talk to any ballistics expert and they're like, that's impossible.

• 3:22:12Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:22:12Speaker 05

  That can't possibly happen. I mean, like the ears could get blown off.

• 3:22:15Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:22:16Speaker 05

  Regardless of how, you know, of, of like how, how it grazes it, okay?

• 3:22:20Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 3:22:20Speaker 05

  So what people believe is that Trump had a razor in his hand. And then he slightly, uh, cut his ear so that it bled.

• 3:22:35Speaker 05

  Okay?

• 3:22:36Danny Jones?

  Like an old wrestling trick.

• 3:22:37Speaker 05

  Well, he used to be part of that world, right?

• 3:22:39Danny Jones?

  He did, used to be a part of that world, yeah.

• 3:22:42Speaker 05

  Right? He had this, he had this death match with Vince, Vince McMahon.

• 3:22:45Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 3:22:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:22:46Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 3:22:49Danny Jones?

  That's so bonkers.

• 3:22:50Speaker 05

  Yeah. If you talk to a lot of people.

• 3:22:52Danny Jones?

  I hope that's true. I hope he admits it. I think if he admitted it, his followers would accept it.

• 3:22:59Speaker 05

  But even, he never talks about it, right?

• 3:23:01Danny Jones?

  No, never.

• 3:23:02Speaker 05

  It goes against his person, his character.

• 3:23:03Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:23:04Speaker 05

  Right? He's not a shy guy. He's not humble or, you know, he, you know, I mean, if it really happened, he, he would have said, God saved me that day. He would say it every single day. He would make everyone say it around him. God saved me that day for a special purpose.

• 3:23:23Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm. And I mean, god damn it. Unfortunately, it does track with all of this other crazy stuff that's happening right now with these religious wars. And with the, you know, the, the reporting that came out where the, the leaders of all of those military commands and different groups, factions of the US military came out and said that Trump was anointed by Jesus.

• 3:23:49Speaker 05

  Yes. This is a religious war, yes?

• 3:23:51Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:23:52Speaker 05

  Yeah. And right now there's this purge in the Pentagon, right? So if you don't agree with the war, you're being purged.

• 3:24:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah, right, like Joe Kent.

• 3:24:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:24:04Danny Jones?

  But he resigned, right?

• 3:24:05Speaker 05

  Right, no, but a lot of generals who are opposed to the war are being purged right now.

• 3:24:10Danny Jones?

  Yeah, Dan Kane is still a part of it though, right? Cause Dan Kane was one of the guys that originally pushed back on the war.

• 3:24:15Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 3:24:15Danny Jones?

  But now he's got the, now they, he's supporting it.

• 3:24:18Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 3:24:18Danny Jones?

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• 3:24:59Danny Jones?

  cultists that are influencing all of these billionaires, Zionists like the Adelsons or whatever, that are funding world leaders like Netanyahu and like Trump and everyone else.

• 3:25:14Speaker 05

  Right, and, and Putin as well.

• 3:25:15Danny Jones?

  And Putin as well.

• 3:25:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, and Zelensky.

• 3:25:18Danny Jones?

  So, so.

• 3:25:19Speaker 05

  And Javier Malé of Argentina.

• 3:25:21Danny Jones?

  These super powerful billionaires believe, have these religious beliefs. And for some reason, they put so much faith in this cult, I'm just gonna call it a cult because it sounds like a cult.

• 3:25:37Danny Jones?

  That they're willing to do whatever it takes to put these people in power using their money, using their unlimited wealth essentially. But, so in this sort of like puzzle, where do the groups like the Rothschilds fit into all this? And like the, the crazy, the, the huge families of international wealth, global wealth?

• 3:26:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:26:08Danny Jones?

  How do they fit in to all this?

• 3:26:10Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 3:26:11Danny Jones?

  And like people even, I mean, even tangentially like people like Epstein.

• 3:26:14Speaker 05

  I could go into 12 hours on this topic alone.

• 3:26:16Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:26:17Speaker 05

  Because this goes way back, okay? It's, I mean, like, it makes no sense that this suddenly comes out of nowhere, right? This has been going on for like a long, long time. Um, and it started with a man named Sabatide Zevi. Okay, so, so I'll give you the quick version, vision, okay, version, okay? Uh, but Sabatide Zevi.

• 3:26:42Speaker 05

  And he, so the year is 1666, okay? And this is like Anatolia, which is like modern day Turkey. Okay, Sabatide Zevi, okay? And in the year 1666, he, um, proclaims himself as the Messiah, promise to the Jews.

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• 3:28:02Speaker 05

  In the Bible.

• 3:28:03Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:28:04Speaker 05

  And a third of the Jewish diaspora at this time in history, believe he is the Messiah. Okay, so the question then is, who is this guy? Where did he come from? And why are Jews following this guy around?

• 3:28:17Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:28:18Speaker 05

  So, um, let's go back in time, 1492. 1492, the Spanish expelled the Jews from Spain. Basically, the Spanish give the Jews a choice. Either you convert to Catholic, to the Catholic religion, or you are forced out of Spain. And a lot converted and a lot moved elsewhere. Uh, primarily Turkey, the Ottoman Empire. Because the Muslims welcomed Jews. Because the Muslims saw the Jews as God's people.

• 3:28:51Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:28:52Speaker 05

  Right? Um, and this criticism within the Jewish religion. Because again, the greatest sin you commit as a Jew is to convert to worship false idols. And in their religion, they believe that if you do so, you will be condemned to burn in hell for all eternity. Okay, that's what they believe. But Judaism, it's a religion of blood. So you're born into the religion.

• 3:29:19Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:29:20Speaker 05

  So in other words, a lot of Jews are being forced to believe that their brothers, their uncles, their mothers are burning in hell because they converted.

• 3:29:29Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:29:30Speaker 05

  And this causes a major crisis of faith within the Jewish religion. Okay, that's point number one. Point number two is that during this time, all wars are breaking out throughout Europe. So Jews are being persecuted. Um, and they're dying in numbers. And at this time, remember, in their religion, at a time of the greatest darkness, God will appear. The Messiah will come. So there's this messianic fever throughout the Jewish diaspora at this time, because there's so much suffering. So when Zabale Zevi proclaims himself the Messiah, Jews are convinced, okay? And so he becomes the first Messiah in the Jewish religion.

• 3:30:11Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 3:30:12Speaker 05

  And there's only one Messiah, okay? And supposedly something strange happens. The Ottoman Sultan, here's about this, and thinks that Zabale Zevi is trying to foment a revolution against him. Right, because the Messiah is supposed to bring the Jews back to Israel, proclaim himself the king of the world, and build the third temple. And so the Sultan sees this as a revolution. So he says to Zabale Zevi, you either, so either the turban or your head, either you convert to Islam, or I will kill you, I will behead you. And Zabale Zevi surprises everyone by converting. Okay? And this shocks the Jewish world.

• 3:30:57Speaker 05

  But there's a core group of people around him who understand that is his messianic mission. Okay, so remember Jesus. What was Jesus' role? Jesus' role was to come to earth and save us, redeem us from the original sin.

• 3:31:12Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:31:13Speaker 05

  Okay, and how did he do so? He killed himself. Right? Well, what's the original sin of the Jews? The original sin of the Jews is conversion. So by converting, Zabale Zevi is redeeming the Jews from the original sin. Because if the Messiah converts, that's telling all Jews that conversion does not matter. So what Zabale Zevi believes is, what the clothes you wear, the religion you practice does not matter. What matters is your heart. So as long as you practice Kabbalah at home, you're still Jewish, because you are Jewish by blood.

• 3:31:51Speaker 05

  And if you are, you know, a Catholic or a Muslim, it doesn't matter. Okay? And so this starts something called Sabbathism. And the Sabbathians believe that, first thing, it doesn't matter what you believe, the faith you practice in public. What matters is what you believe in private, okay? That's number one. But number two is, they also believe in something called redemption by sin. And redemption by sin is the idea that we've been discussing, which is the idea of accelerationism.

• 3:32:22Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:32:22Speaker 05

  Okay, so yes, we will eventually all be unified with God at the end of time. But if we have true faith, we would accelerate the process. And how do you accelerate the process? By committing as much sin as possible. Because if we lead humanity into darkness, God must come and save us. So you force God's hand.

• 3:32:45Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:32:46Speaker 05

  Does it make sense?

• 3:32:46Danny Jones?

  It makes sense.

• 3:32:47Speaker 05

  Okay. All right, so why this happens is,

• 3:32:53Speaker 05

  Zabale Zevi will then be reincarnated in Jacob Frank. Jacob Frank is also a cultist along the lines of Rabbi Snerison.

• 3:33:02Danny Jones?

  Okay, Jacob Frank.

• 3:33:03Speaker 05

  Jacob Frank, okay? And the movement is called Sabbathian Frankism. Okay, so you just bring this up, Sabbathian Frankism.

• 3:33:12Speaker 05

  And now what's really important about Sabbathian Frankism is they encourage conversion and the infiltration of different religious groups.

• 3:33:25Speaker 05

  And in the 18th century, Frankism becomes dominant among the European elite. There are a lot of European nobility who become Frankists, okay? Including the Rothschild family.

• 3:33:44Speaker 05

  The Rothschild family.

• 3:33:45Danny Jones?

  They became Frankists.

• 3:33:46Speaker 05

  Yes. The Frankism is extremely popular among elite European Jewish nobility.

• 3:33:54Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 3:33:55Speaker 05

  And remember how Jeffrey Epstein, in an email, wrote to Arana the Rothschild and said that there were three elite banking families in Europe. They are the Rothschilds, the Epsteins, and the Guttmans.

• 3:34:11Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 3:34:11Speaker 05

  They were all Sabbathian Frankists.

• 3:34:15Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 3:34:16Speaker 05

  Okay? And who was the American Frankist? Oh, sorry, who was the American Sabbathian Frankist? His name was Louis Brandeis. Louis Brandeis was a Sabbathian Frankist. You can Google this.

• 3:34:31Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:34:32Speaker 05

  Louis Brandeis Frankism, okay? He was the most prominent believer in Sabbathian Frankism in America. He was also the most ardent Zionist in America. He was also the man who sponsored How about Louvies Coming to America? So you see how all this fits in together?

• 3:34:52Speaker 05

  Now, in their religion, and again, this is not Judaism, by the way, okay?

• 3:34:56Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:34:57Speaker 05

  This is a heretical cult.

• 3:34:58Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 3:34:59Speaker 05

  Within Judaism, that actually looks down upon all Jews. Okay, they think that Jews are just morons and idiots. Okay? So this is a radical sect. Now, the thing about them is they believe in reincarnation. So the Messiah can never die. The Messiah can just reincarnate. So Zabale Zevi, when he died, he reincarnated as Jacob Frank. When Jacob Frank, when he died, who in the world could he reincarnate as? Rabbi Snerison.

• 3:35:29Danny Jones?

  People believe this?

• 3:35:31Speaker 05

  Unfortunately, people do believe this.

• 3:35:33Danny Jones?

  That Jacob Frank reincarnated as Rabbi Snerison?

• 3:35:36Speaker 05

  That is a great secret of How about Louvies Coming to America, yes. No one is allowed to talk about it. But I make this assumption based on game theory. Because remember, Jacob Frank, he died a very wolfy man. He died with a lot of European nobility being his followers.

• 3:35:55Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:35:56Speaker 05

  Um, do you know what's really interesting that Candace Owens talked about?

• 3:36:02Danny Jones?

  What'd she talk about? With the, on her podcast or with that debate?

• 3:36:06Speaker 05

  On her podcast, okay? Frankism gave birth to Simon Freud. Simon Freud is an agent of Sabbathian Frankism. Okay, so let me tell you a story. Something that the Sabbathians practice is ritual incest. Okay? Because ritual incest is a form of bonding. Okay? Because in their religion, to sin is to show faith in God. Because to sin is to break the laws of man because you have true faith in God. Right?

• 3:36:41Danny Jones?

  To break the laws of man because you have true faith in God?

• 3:36:44Speaker 05

  Right, okay, so, um, for example, you're not allowed to steal. Well, why are you not allowed to steal? You're not allowed to masturbate in public. Why are you not allowed to masturbate in public? Does God care if you masturbate in public? No, God doesn't care if you masturbate in public, but your neighbors do.

• 3:37:06Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:37:06Speaker 05

  Right? So if you masturbate in public, what you're doing is you're defying the laws of man to show your true faith in God. Because you know in your heart that God loves you and God gives you free will, and God has empowered you. Right, so Jacob Frank has a very famous saying.

• 3:37:23Speaker 05

  He has the power to, um, lift something that 10,000 men cannot lift. And if he teaches you that power, you'll be able to lift this thing like a feather, okay? So what is it that 10,000 men cannot lift, but you can lift? And the answer is taboo.

• 3:37:47Speaker 05

  Right? Social taboo is something that most men cannot break.

• 3:37:52Speaker 05

  But you can, because you have true faith in God.

• 3:37:54Danny Jones?

  Is this something he said specifically about taboo?

• 3:37:57Speaker 05

  Yes. Yes, he says that all sin, all religion is made up by men. It is not the true word of God. Only you know the true word of God. And the true word of God is, he wants you to enjoy life.

• 3:38:14Danny Jones?

  Do you think this is something that Jeffrey Epstein subscribed to?

• 3:38:17Speaker 05

  Jeffrey Epstein was an Epstein, right? He wrote that email to Aaron the Rothschild. There are three families in Europe that control finance, the Rothschilds, the Epsteins, and the Guttmans.

• 3:38:27Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:38:28Speaker 05

  Right, why was Jeffrey Epstein given so much power? Where did this guy come from?

• 3:38:32Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:38:34Speaker 05

  Right?

• 3:38:34Danny Jones?

  It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense.

• 3:38:35Speaker 05

  Okay, so Jeffrey Epstein, okay? There are so many strange things about Jeffrey Epstein. But the strangest is, in the year 1991, Leslie Wexner, a billionaire, founder of Victoria's Secrets, he signed over power of attorney to Jeffrey Epstein in 1991. Who would you sign power of attorney over to in your life? Who, you?

• 3:38:58Danny Jones?

  My wife. That's all. That's all. I mean, there's no one else I would do it.

• 3:39:02Speaker 05

  Right, with someone you love and trust, right?

• 3:39:04Danny Jones?

  Exactly.

• 3:39:04Speaker 05

  Because that person has literally the power of life and death over you.

• 3:39:07Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 3:39:08Speaker 05

  So Leslie Wexner signed over power of attorney to a guy he doesn't really know, Jeffrey Epstein.

• 3:39:13Danny Jones?

  Right, good question.

• 3:39:17Speaker 05

  Right?

• 3:39:17Danny Jones?

  Right, and why would he be chosen to go to the Trilateral Commission?

• 3:39:21Speaker 05

  At age thirty, yeah.

• 3:39:22Danny Jones?

  At age thirty?

• 3:39:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, no, he had an interview with Steve Bannon where Jeffrey Epstein said to Jeffrey,

• 3:39:30Speaker 05

  Jeffrey Epstein said to Steve Bannon, "At age thirty, I was selected to be on the Trilateral Commission by David Rockefeller." David Rockefeller himself approached me and says, "You're a financial genius, I need you to be on the Trilateral Commission."

• 3:39:41Speaker 05

  Right, so if you look at his life, okay, so um, his first job was at the Dalton School, he was hired by Donald Barr, who was Wim Barr's father. Then after the Dalton School, he goes to work for Bear Stearns. After Bear Stearns, he works for Douglas Lees, who is one of the major arms trafficker in the world. And, and, and then, um, so people are like, well, he just fell from job to job, right? But you can look at it as he's being mentored by the most powerful people in the world. The Dalton School is old money. It's where the most powerful families send their kids, right? So you're learning how to interact with powerful nobility. Then you go to Bear Stearns to learn how the financial world works. Then you go do arms trafficking to learn how the criminal underworld works.

• 3:40:25Speaker 05

  Right, so he's being mentored, he's being trained to be um, almost a special agent.

• 3:40:32Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:40:34Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it, it does, it, it seems like, uh, also, one of the things that just kinda like, I can't ignore is what you were saying about Rabbi Schneerson wearing that Saturn, the Cube of Saturn on his head.

• 3:40:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:40:46Danny Jones?

  And Saturn being the god that ate its children.

• 3:40:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:40:51Danny Jones?

  And all the Epstein stuff with him allegedly eating human flesh and like disappearing children and all that taboo stuff.

• 3:40:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:40:59Danny Jones?

  That's very...

• 3:41:00Speaker 05

  A lot of this ties back to Sebastian Frankenstein.

• 3:41:02Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:41:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, because they practice ritual incest.

• 3:41:04Danny Jones?

  I can see the connections.

• 3:41:05Speaker 05

  They practice ritual incest. Like, they, they practice like redemption for sin, like how do you show your true faith in God? By sinning, okay? But you can't sin by yourself because it's too hard, so you sin as a group.

• 3:41:17Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:41:17Speaker 05

  So um, Jacob Frank and his followers, they convert to the Catholic religion. And on the day they convert, what happens is he organizes a group orgy, okay? And again, this is online, this is something that is well-known about the Sebastian Frankis. And so it's a group orgy, and it's inside a mansion. And the group orgy is almost a blood oath, meaning like, even though we convert, and even though we will, we will go to different parts of the world, we are now bound by this blood oath through this group sex, through this group orgy. But not only that, but our, but our descendants will also engage in this sort of activity to um, um,

• 3:42:02Speaker 05

  you know, to basically renew this blood oath. Did, did you ever watch um, Eyes Wide Shut?

• 3:42:08Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's been a while, but yeah.

• 3:42:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, why would they organize these, these parties?

• 3:42:14Danny Jones?

  Right. To get blackmail on people and to build bonds with people?

• 3:42:18Speaker 05

  No, I don't think it's blackmail, I do not think it's blackmail, I think it is social bonding.

• 3:42:23Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:42:23Speaker 05

  I, I think it's just the elite um, having a frat party, right?

• 3:42:29Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:42:30Speaker 05

  Like, like, like, like, that's what I think Epstein Island was, it's a, it's a big frat party.

• 3:42:38Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it certainly seems like something really weird was going on. And um, you know, I'm always like, racking my brain over why the government lets out things that it does. You know, not only this interview you just showed of this general explaining the seven countries it wants to invade in five years, uh, to a group of people who would be very against that and want to expose something like that. But also, you know, the government releasing these Epstein files with all this crazy shit in it.

• 3:43:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:43:12Danny Jones?

  And doing absolutely nothing about it and giving no, giving no analysis of what it is and sort of just leaving it to the internet to battle out, have a battle of ideas.

• 3:43:24Speaker 05

  So there's one connection that people, people don't, don't really talk about, okay? It, it's a connection between Robert Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. Okay, so Robert Maxwell was a very known uh, triple agent. He, he was working for MI6, the KGB, and Mossad. Uh, this is pretty well documented.

• 3:43:41Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:43:41Speaker 05

  Okay, and he was basically Epstein before Epstein. Uh, because he was trying to create as much influence as possible through his publishing company.

• 3:43:50Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:43:50Speaker 05

  So he was publishing textbooks um, as well as academic journals, right? Because remember Epstein invited these scientists to his island, like Steven Pinker, Marvin Mansky, Noam Chomsky. Um, and also Epstein was donating, donating a lot of money to scientific research and to universities uh, as well.

• 3:44:09Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:44:09Speaker 05

  Um, so the connection is that after Robert Maxwell died, Glenn Maxwell, the daughter, the favorite daughter of Robert Maxwell, she starts to date Jeffrey Epstein.

• 3:44:21Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:44:22Speaker 05

  Also, there's about six hundred million dollars in a pension fund associated with one of Robert Maxwell's companies that, that goes missing.

• 3:44:29Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:44:29Speaker 05

  And people speculate that that money went to finance and start um, Epstein's influence career.

• 3:44:35Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:44:36Speaker 05

  Okay, so another way of saying this is um, Epstein is the new Robert Maxwell.

• 3:44:44Speaker 05

  And he is this transnational agent of Zionist influence.

• 3:44:51Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that tracks, yeah, there was that famous, you know, that uh, very well documented case of the butler or housekeeper at his house in Manhattan um,

• 3:45:04Danny Jones?

  where he was interviewed, I think by Tara Palmer during her podcast on the Epstein stuff. And he said like, in the eighties, Epstein was always very rich, millions of dollars. And then in like the early nineties, he just became, he went from millions to billions. Something crazy happened.

• 3:45:23Danny Jones?

  And that tracks right when Robert Maxwell died.

• 3:45:25Speaker 05

  That's right, the moment that Robert Maxwell died, you know, nineteen ninety-one, Glenn Maxwell starts to date Jeffrey Epstein, and Jeffrey Epstein starts to come out of nowhere.

• 3:45:32Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:45:32Speaker 05

  To um, yeah.

• 3:45:34Danny Jones?

  You know, one of the other crazy things to me is how Epstein was super into like...

• 3:45:38Speaker 05

  Sorry, sorry, nineteen ninety-one is also the year that Leslie Wexner signs over power to attorney to Jeffrey Epstein.

• 3:45:44Danny Jones?

  The same year.

• 3:45:44Speaker 05

  The same year, yeah, you, you want to Google this?

• 3:45:46Danny Jones?

  No, I believe you, I, I've heard this before, yeah.

• 3:45:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:45:50Danny Jones?

  Yeah, the Leslie Wexner connection is very weird. And it's also like the interviews too, like the, the um, the depositions that were done where they interviewed Wexner.

• 3:45:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:45:58Danny Jones?

  And they also interviewed Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton, right, about the Epstein stuff. And neither of the interviewers asked them about the Rothschilds.

• 3:46:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:46:08Danny Jones?

  But they volunteered the Rothschilds during the questioning.

• 3:46:14Speaker 05

  That's weird. But, but also like, remember during the deposition when this congressman flew into Leslie Wexner's mansion?

• 3:46:20Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 3:46:21Speaker 05

  Leslie Wexner had a lawyer beside him.

• 3:46:22Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 3:46:23Speaker 05

  And the lawyer whispered like loudly into Leslie Wexner's ears, like, "If you answer this, I will, I will kill, I will kill you."

• 3:46:30Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 3:46:31Speaker 05

  It's like, wait a minute here, like who's working for who, man?

• 3:46:34Danny Jones?

  Right, there's just too much weirdness around it.

• 3:46:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:46:39Danny Jones?

  And it's like, like I was getting at earlier, it's, it's almost like it's deliberately, they're deliberately letting out, putting on this performative show with the media and, and dripping out all of this crazy evidence with no conclusion, like almost provoking the public to come up with all these insane theories and argue about it online.

• 3:47:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's called karmic responsibility, have you heard the term?

• 3:47:06Danny Jones?

  What, what responsibility?

• 3:47:07Speaker 05

  Karmic responsibility.

• 3:47:08Danny Jones?

  I have not heard that, no.

• 3:47:09Speaker 05

  Okay, uh, maybe Steve, you, you, you can Google the term karmic responsibility? Okay, so this is a theory, okay? And the idea is the elite...

• 3:47:21Danny Jones?

  Karmic responsibility. The spiritual principle that you are accountable for your own thoughts, intentions, and actions, that the energy you bring into, and for the energy you bring into the world, okay?

• 3:47:32Speaker 05

  Okay, so the idea is the elite are superstitious, that's why they do this stuff.

• 3:47:36Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:47:37Speaker 05

  Right? And so um, they believe in karma. And the way to reduce your karmic responsibility is by telling the truth to everyone. Right, because like, let's just pretend we're all dead because they blew up the world with nuclear weapons. We're all, we're all in heaven, and God's like, "Hey, man, why are you all here?" And we're like, "Well, we don't know," right? Then God will put all the, all the responsibility on the elite for causing nuclear war. But if the elite told us, but we just don't connect the dots, then it's our responsibility now, right? The elite's like, "Well, we told you, man." Like, like, look at the evidence before you, like, look at the videos, man!

• 3:48:14Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:48:15Speaker 05

  Right? Like, how much evidence do you guys need to connect the dots?

• 3:48:18Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:48:20Danny Jones?

  And what did you make in the Epstein files of that, the, the, the fact that all of the stuff was redacted between 1999 and 2002? 9/11 and there was like that. If you look at, there's a, a great chart, I think that Ian Carroll released on X.

• 3:48:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:48:33Danny Jones?

  Where it shows all the emails and the dates of the emails and there's just a blank slate between like a year and a half when 9/11 happened.

• 3:48:41Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. So, um, Howard Lutnick and, um, Jeffrey Epstein were neighbors in Manhattan, right? And I think Jeffrey Epstein lived in number 11.

• 3:48:53Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm. Nine.

• 3:48:55Speaker 05

  Like, like, that's kind of weird.

• 3:48:57Danny Jones?

  That's insane.

• 3:48:57Speaker 05

  Yeah. Like all these coincidences, right? And Howard Lutnick, um, didn't report to work that day.

• 3:49:04Danny Jones?

  Yeah. He dropped his kid off at school that day.

• 3:49:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:49:06Danny Jones?

  First time ever.

• 3:49:07Speaker 05

  Yeah. And Kenneth Fitzhugh suffered the most casualties that day. Like, like, like it was that floor.

• 3:49:12Danny Jones?

  His brother died.

• 3:49:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, his brother died. Um, Larry Silverstein didn't go to work either. Like the only day he missed worked in his entire life. Yeah, there were a lot of weird things.

• 3:49:22Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:49:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:49:24Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Again, just leaving us to speculate about the craziest shit, you know? It's almost like if I'm the government, what's going to happen if I leave out all the emails from between those years? We know people online are going to come up with all kinds of crazy theories.

• 3:49:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:49:37Danny Jones?

  And maybe this is just some sort of, you know, flood the zone tactic, just to divert attention away from what this hand is doing over here. Oh, let's, by the way, let's drop all this UFO stuff.

• 3:49:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:49:47Danny Jones?

  Which, you know, it's just, it's just too much. It becomes overwhelming for people to track.

• 3:49:53Speaker 05

  But I also think that if you, they want to make it obvious to people. Because if you just look at the JFK assassination, 9/11, the Charlie Kirk, it's all so obvious. If you just look at it with an open mind, but so many of us are, you know, kind of dissonance. We absolutely refuse to believe there are people like this in the world doing this sort of thing.

• 3:50:15Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:50:16Speaker 05

  So we just block it out.

• 3:50:18Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it is interesting. Like why, yeah, there's, it's, it's almost like, uh, like a group think, right? Where it's like you're in, you're in this one group who automatically assumes that conspiracies are for dumb people.

• 3:50:31Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 3:50:31Danny Jones?

  And this, uh, level of, of secret societies or intelligence people, spooky people that do illegal things for the US government. That's not real. It's just crazy people making, connecting dots. And then you have like this other group of people who think everything is a conspiracy and every dot connects to everything. Everything is, you know, everything is the Jews or whatever. And it's like, the truth is actually very much in the middle of all this stuff, but it doesn't matter because you've created this diversion. Because you've created these two groups, isolated groups that are constantly fighting against each other and just creating all this noise. And the signal gets lost in all the noise.

• 3:51:05Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 3:51:08Danny Jones?

  And that's my frustration with all of it. And, uh,

• 3:51:14Danny Jones?

  I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. I'm very concerned about the future of freedom of speech online.

• 3:51:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:51:24Danny Jones?

  With especially like YouTube and podcasts.

• 3:51:26Speaker 05

  I think so.

• 3:51:26Danny Jones?

  Like the fact that you can come on this podcast right now and say all of this shit is kind of bonkers, considering where we were. I don't know if you didn't see it in 2020, but here, uh, internet was extremely censored and clamped down.

• 3:51:40Speaker 05

  Covid, yeah.

• 3:51:41Danny Jones?

  Because of Covid. And, you know, it doesn't matter. If you, if you gave, talked about any sort of medical, uh, stories or advice or whatever that was, that deviated from the government, what the government was saying, you would most likely get your accounts taken away. People would lose their livelihoods and think it was terrifying.

• 3:52:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:52:02Danny Jones?

  And it seems like that pendulum has swung all the way to the other side right now. It's almost like the wild, wild west. You can get away with anything right now.

• 3:52:10Speaker 05

  Um, you know, YouTube has these new rules, right? Starting next week, um, the, uh, they will, um, count any click as a view.

• 3:52:21Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 3:52:22Speaker 05

  Like you, you know about this, right?

• 3:52:23Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that's how it used to be where if you watch, click on a video, click play, that counted as a view. Then it changed to where like they had to watch maybe like the first 30 seconds of it and now it would count as a view.

• 3:52:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:52:33Danny Jones?

  Now they're doing it going back to where every click counts as a view.

• 3:52:36Speaker 05

  Well, I mean, the difference is now you have bots and AI, right?

• 3:52:40Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:52:41Speaker 05

  So like now if you were to do this, like these bot accounts could just dominate YouTube. They would have much more influence over public opinion. Because like before, how could you determine whether a video was worth watching or not? Just, just the view counts, right?

• 3:52:58Danny Jones?

  Yes, but Google is, and YouTube are very good at tracking that kind of stuff. If you, if you, if you flood fake bot accounts to a YouTube video, YouTube can figure that out very quickly. And they automatically will take you out of the algorithm.

• 3:53:11Speaker 05

  Okay, okay. Well, um, I just think like now there's just going to inflate the statistics. So now it's going to be very hard for people to filter what's.

• 3:53:22Danny Jones?

  Yeah, but here's the thing though, like YouTube didn't, like they can, here's the crazy thing about companies like YouTube is they can change stuff behind the scenes and they don't have to announce it publicly.

• 3:53:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's right.

• 3:53:34Danny Jones?

  They can make little changes and like they tell you generally how the algorithm works. Like people have to watch it for this long. It'll show up as long as they're subscribed or whatever.

• 3:53:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:53:43Danny Jones?

  But they have the ability to turn you up or turn you down.

• 3:53:49Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 3:53:49Danny Jones?

  Without ever telling you.

• 3:53:50Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 3:53:51Danny Jones?

  And this happens to people all the time.

• 3:53:52Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 3:53:53Danny Jones?

  So,

• 3:53:55Danny Jones?

  you know, why would they, why would they make this a public statement? Maybe they, maybe they explained it in their, in their press release about this, but, um,

• 3:54:06Danny Jones?

  yeah, it's, it's very, it's very strange because they, they can manipulate the amount of reach any video gets and they never have to let you know.

• 3:54:16Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 3:54:18Danny Jones?

  You know, it's, uh,

• 3:54:21Danny Jones?

  and I, like I was saying, I'm, I'm, I'm very concerned about how this pendulum, is it going to swing back to something that,

• 3:54:31Danny Jones?

  we're not prepared for, you know? Is this, is this some sort of like, is this some sort of like test? To see how people act during these years, during all this stuff, to see what people are saying with the crazy emergence of AI being implemented into all these platforms and being able to track, what did Jang say?

• 3:54:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think so.

• 3:54:53Danny Jones?

  Throughout the last five years.

• 3:54:55Speaker 05

  I think so.

• 3:54:55Danny Jones?

  Now that AI is taking over, we're going to be able to figure out, put people in boxes and control things even more. But right now, we want to make it the wild, wild west.

• 3:55:03Speaker 05

  That's right. That's right.

• 3:55:04Danny Jones?

  To see who people really are.

• 3:55:06Speaker 05

  Yeah. And this is a very, you know, um, this is a pattern that repeats itself throughout history. So during 1950s, in 1957, uh, Trevor Maltz had done something called like, let the hundred, uh, let a hundred flowers bloom campaign. And basically, uh, he was trying to encourage people to speak up against the government, against society.

• 3:55:25Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 3:55:25Speaker 05

  And then after a few months, these people were tracked down and they were arrested and labeled as anti-government revolutionary.

• 3:55:33Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:55:33Speaker 05

  Rightists, right? So it's very, I, I think it's very possible that this will happen soon. Because nowadays with the algorithm, it's very easy to track people, um, and like to categorize people. You know, that, that's what Palantir does, right?

• 3:55:49Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 3:55:50Speaker 05

  So I, I think it's very possible. I, I, I think they're letting us speak because they want to know how much traction these views get. And who's, and who is actually, um, commenting, liking this video.

• 3:56:02Danny Jones?

  Right, right. And one of the wild, and one of the, you know, the, the one platform that took all the, the, you know, breaks off was X. X is like, you can completely wild, wild west right now on X. Anyone can get away with anything.

• 3:56:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:56:18Danny Jones?

  And Elon's controlling with Grok. People are, are, you know, the accounts that I'm following, like the shit that I see. And the crazy like

• 3:56:31Danny Jones?

  people, powerful people that there's these accounts that like show these quotes, like that this guy, this leader of this country said this horrific thing. Grok, can you confirm it? And Grok's like, yeah, he said this. Like, you know, it's just insane to me with, with Elon and the power that he has. And that he's not spoken out at all about any of this stuff that Trump's come back on with the war. He hasn't said anything about the Gaza stuff.

• 3:56:56Speaker 05

  Well, well, he did. And then he had to go visit the, the wall, right? And Auschwitz.

• 3:57:01Danny Jones?

  Right. Yeah, he did do that.

• 3:57:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:57:03Danny Jones?

  But it's like, he just constantly talks about like the border, immigration and all this stuff, ICE. But he won't say anything. He won't even touch this topic.

• 3:57:13Danny Jones?

  Which is very odd to me.

• 3:57:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:57:19Danny Jones?

  Anything else that we missed that we should cover?

• 3:57:21Speaker 05

  We covered a lot, man.

• 3:57:23Danny Jones?

  We did cover a lot, man.

• 3:57:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:57:24Danny Jones?

  Yeah, we're like four hours in right now.

• 3:57:26Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 3:57:29Danny Jones?

  You getting tired?

• 3:57:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:57:33Speaker 05

  It's probably my longest podcast so far.

• 3:57:35Danny Jones?

  Longest one?

• 3:57:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we covered a lot. That, how about Louvitch material was pretty tiring, actually. Just thinking like these people are in charge and they, you know.

• 3:57:48Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it really blows my mind how it all comes back, how the way you described the Ha-Bod thing connected to all the wars.

• 3:57:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:58:00Danny Jones?

  And it all kinda is coming back to that whole end times eschatology.

• 3:58:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:58:06Speaker 05

  It's pretty scary.

• 3:58:07Danny Jones?

  It is terrifying. So, so

• 3:58:10Danny Jones?

  how do you think this plays out in like the short term? Like the next five years, what do you predict happens? What do you think happens with like

• 3:58:17Danny Jones?

  the US economy, the global economy?

• 3:58:20Speaker 05

  Yeah. I think we're in a rough, we're in for a rough 10 years. I think the global economy collapses. I think the US economy collapses. I think, I think the midterms will not turn out the way people expect. There are a lot of Democrats who think the midterms will mark a turning point. And maybe, you know, when Democrats come into power in the House, they will start to limit Trump's war powers. And they will impeach him. I don't think that.

• 3:58:47Danny Jones?

  It seems like they want the war just as much as he does.

• 3:58:49Speaker 05

  Exactly. Because they're not really doing anything to stop him, right? And so the theory is they want this war, but they don't want to be on the public record supporting this war. Because that's what happened in 2003, right? And a lot were punished for supporting the war.

• 3:59:05Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:59:05Speaker 05

  2003, so they don't want to vote. You know, they want, they don't do not, they do not want to force a vote and have a public record saying who supported this war and who was against this war. And so they're probably happy to advocate the responsibility and just let Trump continue this war.

• 3:59:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:59:19Speaker 05

  Because at the end of the day, how about Louvitch is able to control all levers, levers of Washington, of Washington DC.

• 3:59:26Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 3:59:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:59:27Danny Jones?

  The, the, I don't know if you saw, but there was these elections in Florida last night.

• 3:59:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:59:32Danny Jones?

  And Dan Bilzerian was actually running and he was, who was he tied with? Was it Randy Fine?

• 3:59:38Speaker 05

  Well, he was running against Randy Fine, yeah.

• 3:59:39Danny Jones?

  Running against Randy Fine. And it looks like they were close to tie, to being tied. And like last minute, Randy Fine got like all of these extra votes.

• 3:59:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:59:48Danny Jones?

  From somewhere and people are speculating that it was stolen or something?

• 3:59:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it tracks.

• 3:59:57Danny Jones?

  It, it's crazy just how much influence Israeli influence is in the United States. You know, especially with DeSantis and, you know, all the crazy laws that they've been implementing.

• 4:00:06Speaker 05

  I also think Trump will run in 2028. And there'll be a lot of cheating in 2028. So I think they're just gonna test out a lot of systems during the midterms. So I think if Trump gets a third term, this will be a crossing, crossing the Rubicon. I mean, this will be a breaking point in the United States.

• 4:00:22Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 4:00:23Speaker 05

  Yeah. Because if Trump were to get a third term, then I think you would have a lot of violence in the United States. I think you would have like these democratic part, democratic cities, New York City, California, Boston, Chicago, who might be in open rebellion against Trump.

• 4:00:39Danny Jones?

  Well, I don't think it will just be Democrats. I think everyone will rebel against him. I don't think most of the Republican base is, is stoked on Trump either. You know, he's lost some of his biggest supporters.

• 4:00:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, like I was talking to some friends and they were like, the apathy in America right now, it is overwhelming. You know, there's this war going on in the Middle East that no one voted for. And which could potentially collapse the global and the American economies. And no one seems to like know what's going on.

• 4:01:09Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 4:01:09Speaker 05

  People just blocked it all out.

• 4:01:11Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 4:01:11Speaker 05

  So I'm not sure.

• 4:01:13Danny Jones?

  It's like the hyper-normalization.

• 4:01:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. People are just stuck in their little bubbles and they put their head in the sand.

• 4:01:21Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 4:01:22Speaker 05

  And I'm not sure how, how people will react to a Trump third term. I think most people will be like, we don't care.

• 4:01:30Speaker 05

  And, but I think that the Democratic Party might be in open rebellion against Trump. And this could lead to a lot of street violence. Very similar to like George Floyd protests.

• 4:01:41Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 4:01:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 4:01:44Danny Jones?

  I hope you're wrong.

• 4:01:45Speaker 05

  I hope I'm wrong too. I, I hope I'm, I'm completely wrong about everything we said today. I hope that everything is completely coincidence and I'm just making this crap up. And I just have a, like, I'm just like an active imagination.

• 4:01:57Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 4:01:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, because, you know, both, both you and I have children.

• 4:02:02Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 4:02:02Speaker 05

  And we do not want our children grow up in this world.

• 4:02:04Danny Jones?

  No.

• 4:02:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 4:02:05Danny Jones?

  No, not at all.

• 4:02:06Speaker 05

  Yeah. But at the same time, I also think it's important that people be open to the possibility that this is true. Because, you know, we, we urge ourselves to keep ourselves informed.

• 4:02:17Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's really important to notice these patterns. And you do an incredible job of exposing that stuff and making it easy to understand and digest. So, uh, thank you for all your work. Thank you for your time.

• 4:02:28Speaker 05

  Thanks so much for giving the time to like make my case.

• 4:02:31Danny Jones?

  Of course, man. Yeah, of course, my pleasure. It's great to have you here.

• 4:02:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, and, and, and I think I did a great job of undermining the United States.

• 4:02:38Danny Jones?

  You did.

• 4:02:39Speaker 05

  By spreading the truth. And, and, and you're now my collaborator, so.

• 4:02:42Danny Jones?

  Yes, exactly.

• 4:02:43Speaker 05

  So if the feds come knocking.

• 4:02:44Danny Jones?

  I'm not recruitable. I'm not.

• 4:02:46Speaker 05

  Okay, all right, all right.

• 4:02:47Danny Jones?

  Just, just tell, tell Xi that, uh, I better come up with a good extraction plan. It better save me from the, from the CIA when they come knocking.

• 4:02:55Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 4:02:56Danny Jones?

  All right, man. Thanks again, man. This was super fun.

• 4:03:00Danny Jones?

  We'll just tell people to find your YouTube channel. We'll link it below. Is there anything else we should tell people?

• 4:03:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, my Substack.

• 4:03:04Danny Jones?

  Substack?

• 4:03:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 4:03:04Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 4:03:05Speaker 05

  And I'll say my Substack.

• 4:03:06Danny Jones?

  Perfect. We'll link it all below. All right, man. Thanks again.

• 4:03:08Speaker 05

  Thanks, Danny.

• 4:03:09Danny Jones?

  Good night, folks.