You Don't Need Credit

Perhaps you remember reading The Odyssey in high school or college (or possibly you picked up Emily Wilson’s fabulous new translation). Even if you haven’t, you’re probably familiar with the cyclops scene. Odysseus and his men find themselves trapped in a cave with Polyphemus, the deranged, man-eating, sheep herding, one-eyed beast. Odysseus hatches an ingenious escape plan: they wait for the cyclops to fall asleep and then stab him in the eye with a sharpened log. Enraged and blinded, Polyphemus staggers to remove the stone he had rolled in front of the entrance of the cave, which frees Odysseus and his men. It’s brilliant and, best of all, Odysseus, never having given the cyclops his real name, is off scot-free. But then, just out of reach of the bleeding, angry, shouting cyclops, he turns back and taunts:“Cyclops! If any mortal asks you howYour eye was mutilated and made blind,Say that Odysseus, the city-saker,Laertes’ son, who lives in Ithaca,Destroyed your sight.”Odysseus just couldn’t help himself. He wanted the credit. And he stupidly forgot that Polyphemus’ father was Poseidon, and that the lord of the sea was unlikely to act kindly towards someone who had blinded his son. This moment of hubris cost Odysseus something like ten years of his life, as Poseidon threw up countless obstacles, one after the other, between Odysseus and his wife, Penelope, back home in Ithaca. It’s a lesson that many people have heeded (and plenty of others have painfully forgotten) ever since. Marcus Aurelius, for his part, talked often about the worthlessness of credit. So you did a good thing, he says, why do you need to be thanked for it? It felt good to do, it helped someone else, why do you need the third thing of credit or recognition or gratitude? The same goes for a clever plan or successful business deal. Do you really need people to know you pulled it off? The answer is that you don’t. In fact, it’s usually better not to get credit (because the ‘right thing’ is not always appreciated, because other people might get jealous, because it puffs up your ego). Think about that today, and remember it always. You don’t need credit. That’s not what should motivate you. Do the right thing because it’s right. Pursue excellence because that’s what you do. Leave the recognition and the rewards alone. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. 📢 Share | ⚙️ Manage Subscription

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• 0:06Ryan Holiday?

  Welcome to The Daily Stoic, where each day we read a short passage designed to help you cultivate the strength, insight, wisdom necessary for living the good life. Each one of these passages is based on the 2,000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women. For more, you can visit us at DailyStoic.com. You don't need credit. Perhaps you remember reading the Odyssey in high school or college, or possibly you picked up Emily Wilson's fabulous new translation. Even if you haven't, you're probably familiar with the cyclops scene. Odysseus and his men find themselves trapped in a cave with

• 0:45Ryan Holiday?

  Polyphemus, the deranged, man-eating, sheep-hurting, one-eyed beast. Odysseus hatches an ingenious escape plan. They wait for the cyclops to fall asleep and then stab him in the eye with a sharpened log. Enraged and blinded, Polyphemus staggers to remove the stone he had rolled in front of the entrance of the cave, which frees Odysseus and his men. It's brilliant, and best of all, Odysseus, never having given the cyclops his real name, is off scot-free. But then, just out of reach of the bleeding, angry, shouting cyclops, he turns back and taunts, "Cyclops, if any mortal asks you how your eye was mutilated

• 1:27Ryan Holiday?

  and made blind, say that Odysseus, the city-sacker, Laertes's son, who lives in Ithaca, destroyed your sight." Odysseus couldn't help himself. He wanted the credit, and he stupidly forgot that Polyphemus's father was Poseidon, and that the lord of the sea was unlikely to act kindly to someone who had blinded his son. This moment of hubris cost Odysseus something like 10 years of his life, as Poseidon threw up countless obstacles, one after the other, between Odysseus and his wife Penelope, back home in Ithaca. It's a lesson that many people have heeded, and plenty of others have painfully forgotten ever since.

• 2:09Ryan Holiday?

  Marcus Aurelius, for his part, talked often about the worthlessness of credit. "So you did a good thing," he says. "What do you need to be thanked for it? It felt good to do. It helped someone else. Why do you need the third thing of credit or recognition or gratitude?" The same goes for a clever plan or a successful business deal. Do you really need people to know you pulled it off? The answer is that you don't. In fact, it's usually better not to get credit because the right thing isn't always appreciated, because other people might get jealous, because it puffs up your ego. Think about that today and remember it always. You don't need credit. That's not what should motivate you. Do the right thing because it's right. Pursue excellence

• 2:54Ryan Holiday?

  because it's what you do. Leave the recognition and the rewards alone. Please check out the Daily Stoic store where we sell products that we ourselves use that are designed to take these Stoic lessons to the next level. Just go to dailystoic.com/store.