We Aren’t Rational, We Become Rational

Most of us don’t think of ourselves as irrational. We don’t think we’re reactive creatures. We presume that we’re in control of our emotions, not the other way around. Other people are irrational of course, but what we feel is what reality is. Robert Greene’s latest book The Laws Of Human Nature begins from the premise that humans, by the way we’re wired, are irrational beings. The part of our brain that processes reason, cognition, and thought is separate from the part that processes emotion. He says that while we think we’re naturally rational, we’re not. We become rational. It’s an effort. As Robert said in his interview with us about the book,We descended from chimpanzees. It’s the fact that we tend to react to what’s immediately in front of our face, like a cow or a dog or anything. We bark and that’s who we are. And we tend to always want things to be easier to take the path of least resistance. We all have that lower part of our nature and it’s a lot stronger, but at the same time, there’s a higher self that we’re straining to become. And maybe I’m being optimistic, but I’m saying that everybody has that desire to reach the higher self. There is a strong element of Stoicism in this. Although Marcus and Epictetus and Seneca spoke of living in accordance with nature, they knew how unnaturally this came to most people. They knew how much work it was to get to that higher self, to transcend our baser instincts and emotions. Epictetus said we must put every impression to the test, to say to it, “hold on a moment, let me see who you are and what you represent.” To stop and put it to the test takes an effort. Socrates, who the Stoics considered as the rational ideal, said one must always begin from the premise of ignorance because what you presume to know is often quite wrong. To presume you know is acting from emotion, not reason. To presume that what you feel like doing in the moment is obviously the right thing, is taking the easy way out, it’s taking the path of least resistance, it’s leaping over the space between stimulus and response. The key then is to work towards that higher self, to become rational. Through journaling. Through discussion. Through challenges and courses and other exercises. Through reading books like Robert’s and other books on psychology and philosophy that help you understand what’s really going on inside your brain. Through taking the time to put every impression and impulse to the test—to not let that monkey part of the self be in control. It’s hard work, but it’s worth it. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. 📢 Share | ⚙️ Manage Subscription

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• 0:06Ryan Holiday?

  Welcome to The Daily Stoic, where each day we read a short passage designed to help you cultivate the strength, insight, wisdom necessary for living the good life. Each one of these passages is based on the 2,000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women. For more, you can visit us at dailystoic.com. We aren't rational, we become rational. Most of us don't think of ourselves as irrational. We don't think we're reactive creatures. We presume that we are in control of our emotions, not the other way around. Other people are irrational, of course, but what

• 0:47Ryan Holiday?

  we feel is what reality is. Robert Greene's newest book, The Laws of Human Nature, begins from the premise that humans, by the way we're wired, are irrational beings. The part of our brain that processes reason, cognition, and thought is separate from the part that processes emotion. He says that while we think we're naturally rational, we are not. No, we become rational. It is an effort. As Robert said in his interview with us about the book, "We descended from chimpanzees." It's the fact that we tend to react to what's immediately in front of our face, like a cow, or a dog, or anything. We bark, and

• 1:28Ryan Holiday?

  that's who we are. And we tend to always want things to be easier, to take the path of least resistance. We all have that lower part of our nature, and it's a lot stronger. But at the same time, there's a higher self that we're straining to become. And maybe I'm optimistic, but I'm saying that everyone has that desire to reach the higher self. Of course, there's a strong element of Stoicism in what Robert is saying. Although Marcus and Epictetus and Seneca spoke of living in accordance with nature, they knew how unnaturally this came to most people. They knew how much work it was to get to that higher self, to transcend our baser instincts and emotions.

• 2:12Ryan Holiday?

  Epictetus said that we must put every impression to the test and say to it, "Hold on a moment. Let me see who you are and what you represent." To stop and put it to the test takes effort. Socrates, who the Stoics considered as the rational ideal, said, "One must always begin from the premise of ignorance, because what you presume to know is often wrong." To presume you know is acting from emotion, not reason. To presume that what you feel like doing in the moment is obviously the right thing is taking the easy way out. It's taking the path of least resistance. It's leaping over the space between stimulus and response.

• 2:54Ryan Holiday?

  The key, then, is to work towards that higher self, to become rational, through journaling, through discussion, through challenges and courses and other exercises. Through reading books like Robert's and other books on psychology and philosophy that help you understand what's really going on inside your brain. Through taking the time to put every impression and impulse to the test and to not let that monkey part of the self be in control. It's hard work, but it's worth it. Check out Robert Greene's new book, The Laws of Human Nature. It's on sale everywhere books are sold.