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0:05 Ryan Holiday? Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, where each day we bring you a Stoic-inspired meditation, designed to help you find strength and insight and wisdom into everyday life. Each one of these episodes is based on the 2,000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women, help you learn from them, to follow in their example, and to start your day off with a little dose of courage and discipline and justice and wisdom. For more, visit DailyStoic.com.
0:55 Ryan Holiday? None of us are perfect. It's clear that Commodus was no chip off the old block. Marcus Aurelius's son, the man he reluctantly made emperor in his place, all four of his immediate predecessors, not having had a male heir, was impulsive and fragile, cruel and bloodthirsty. We don't know exactly what Commodus was like, but Joaquin Phoenix seems to have gotten close to his essence in the movie Gladiator. Was Marcus Aurelius a bad father, then? How did he not manage to pass on his Stoicism to say nothing of his kindness and sense of responsibility to his son? We don't know, and it does make some people doubt whether Marcus Aurelius was as great of a man as we'd like to think he was.
1:39 Ryan Holiday? Yet, because of our focus on the men of history, we often miss an equally compelling example of Marcus Aurelius's parenting and the power of his example. In the year 212 AD, his daughter Cornificia was sentenced to death by the emperor Calacalla on what appears to be spurious charges. Here, the historians tell us a child of Marcus showed herself to be equal, not just to his example, a Tucato and his daughter Portia. Her last words, the writer Horace White Parsons and Lucy Larkham explain in The Atlantic in 1888, "Were my poor unhappy soul trapped in an unworthy body. Go forth, be free, show them that you are the daughter of Marcus Aurelius."
2:23 Ryan Holiday? Then she took off her ornaments, composed herself, opened her veins, and died. Cassius Dio, the ancient historian, said of her wistful words and serene self-possession that whether innocent or guilty of the unknown crime for which she suffered, she has at least established her claim to an imperial birthright. It is a risky thing to speculate about people's parenting, let alone someone you didn't know who lived very long ago. Like all of us, Marcus Aurelius clearly made mistakes as a parent, but he also clearly did something right. His male heir seemed to be a coward and a murderer, but his daughter, she was heroic and selfless and every bit the equal
3:05 Ryan Holiday? of her father. Indeed, one of the great Stoics of history.
3:20 Ryan Holiday? Judge yourself, not others. There is nothing less philosophical than being a know-it-all. This is especially true of those who use their knowledge to scold others for their mistakes while claiming the superiority of their knowledge or insight. The Stoics taught that behaving this way was to miss the entire purpose of philosophy as a tool for self-correction, medicine for our own souls, not a weapon for putting down others. Seneca's letters twice employ the metaphor of scrubbing down or scraping off our faults. "We need to see ourselves as in the care of philosophy's principles," he says, "or," as Epictetus put it later, when referring to the philosopher's lecture hall, "we need to see it as a hospital
4:04 Ryan Holiday? for our own therapy." So try not to write down a single complaint or problem of another person in your journal this week. Focus on what ails you. We have two quotes from Seneca's moral letters and one from the discourses. "When philosophy is wielded with arrogance and stubbornly, it is the cause for the ruin of many. Let philosophy scrape off your own faults rather than be a way to rail against the faults of others." That's Seneca, letter 103. Some people with exceptional minds quickly grasp virtue or produce it within themselves, but other dim and lazy types hindered by bad habits must have their rusty souls constantly scrubbed down. The weaker sorts will be helped and lifted from their bad opinions if we put them in the care of philosophy's principles.
4:49 Ryan Holiday? That's Epictetus's Moral Letters 95. And then Epictetus's Discourses 323, "Men, the philosopher's lecture hall is a hospital. You shouldn't walk out of it feeling pleasure but pain, for you weren't well when you entered it." I think this is a tension here, and I've seen it. Some people maybe get it wrong, probably in bad faith, when they reply to stuff I've posted or written. Who are you to criticize, I don't know, anti-vaxxers? Or who are you to say that have this political opinion? Or to say that this is right or wrong? You're not perfect, of course, right? Of course, I'm not perfect. Of course, a Stoic is primarily focused on their own edification, their own improvement.
5:34 Ryan Holiday? They're trying to look in the mirror. They're trying to scrub off their own faults. That doesn't mean that we turn a blind eye to what's happening in the world. That doesn't mean we indulge and accept and encourage ridiculousness or injustices by other people. I mean, some of the best Stoic lines are quips or criticisms of other people, right? The Stoics were also teachers. Zeno, Seneca, Musonius Rufus, Epictetus, they were writers and thinkers. They were responsible for teaching philosophy to people. Of course, we have to make judgments. I think what the Stoics are really talking about is not being a Monday morning quarterback at the expense of your performance on Sunday, right?
6:16 Ryan Holiday? When I study history, obviously, part of my job is to make judgments and communicate these ideas to you and to people and to myself. And that really is what I'm doing. And I have a chapter in Courage is Calling about why we don't judge another person's courage, right? We don't fully understand everything that's going on with them. But in another sense, we do judge their courage. But instead of criticizing them, instead of feeling better than them because they made this mistake, we try to look at them as cautionary tales, almost like we would in a Greek tragedy or a Roman play, a Shakespearean play, and try to apply those lessons to our own lives. So the point is, when you see someone else doing something wrong, when you see something you don't like, when you see someone debasing themselves, when you see someone advocating
7:00 Ryan Holiday? a preposterous or dangerous opinion, you can criticize it, you can call it out for what it is, but don't feel superior for it. Try to learn from it. Try to apply lessons from that to your own life. That's the journey that we're on here. Obviously, as a writer and a speaker, I have to draw on examples. My work would be not very compelling if I didn't do that. So I have to walk a slightly different razor's edge. And, and I mean, look, that's what's so funny, right? The Stoics are saying, don't criticize other people. And yet, even in this quote from Seneca, Moreau Letters 95, he's saying, look, some people get this naturally, but there are other dim and lazy types hindered by bad
7:41 Ryan Holiday? habits, and they must have their rusty souls constantly scrubbed. So that does exist, right? And somebody has to do that job. And perhaps that's your job with a friend or a family member. Just remember that your real job is scrubbing down your own rusty soul. And if you ever think that it is not rusty, well, that is a compelling sign right there that it is. Just a funny note, I get this all the time because of ego is the enemy. People go, what do I do about my boss's ego? What do you do about all the egos in our organization? Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. But much less often do I get the question, I have an ego. What do I do about my ego? Right? The question we often are gravitating towards solving other people's issues, focusing on
8:26 Ryan Holiday? other people's flaws. But as they say in the Bible, don't worry about the splinter in your neighbor's eye when you have a log in your own. So that's what philosophy is about. You are not well. Treat yourself first. But of course, you may recognize similar symptoms in other people if you need to point them out. Go right ahead.
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