Possible Child Abductor Dressed as Pink Panther on the Loose

Fredericksburg, Virginia police are searching for someone who was spotted in a "Pink Panther" costume. They were allegedly following children on May 14, 2026, and the case went viral after a local realtor captured him on video along Lafayette Boulevard, amassing over a million TikTok views and drawing national attention.

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• 0:14Derrick Levasseur?

  Hey everybody, welcome back to Crime Weekly News. I'm Derrick Levasseur.

• 0:17Stephanie Harlowe?

  And I'm Stephanie Harlow.

• 0:18Derrick Levasseur?

  And as of right now, whether you're listening or watching this, Stephanie and I are, well, I'm on my way to Vegas. Stephanie will be leaving in the morning, and so we're excited about that. We're hoping to see some of you there. But today, we're talking about something that's not good news and something that everyone should be concerned about.

• 0:36Stephanie Harlowe?

  And it's weird.

• 0:37Derrick Levasseur?

  Because it's not just this specific area, it's anywhere. It can happen anywhere in the country. And anybody who has children out there, you definitely want to know this story. So, Thursday, May 14th, a person dressed in a pink panther costume was spotted in several locations around the Old Greenwich area of Fredericksburg, Virginia. This person reportedly was following a group of children who had gotten off a school bus, and police are now asking for the public's help to find this potential child stalker. And listen, I just gave you the short version. I actually stumbled on this on Instagram. Somebody else was talking about it. I didn't hear about it anywhere else. And then I sent the link, once I started researching it, to Stephanie. Did you already know about it, Stephanie?

• 1:19Stephanie Harlowe?

  No.

• 1:20Derrick Levasseur?

  Okay, see, that's a problem.

• 1:22Stephanie Harlowe?

  But when you sent it to me and I looked into it, it reminded me of something else, which we're going to talk about.

• 1:26Derrick Levasseur?

  You said that. And by the way, if you're not watching on video right now, you need to go over there and check it out, because there's this eerie photo of this person. I'm assuming it's a guy.

• 1:36Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, they think it's a guy.

• 1:37Derrick Levasseur?

  But they're standing there in this costume, and there was like a passerby who was smart enough to take a photo of it. And the person in the pink panther costume is just like staring at him. It looks like something-

• 1:48Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, a ton of people saw this thing.

• 1:49Derrick Levasseur?

  Straight out of a horror movie. Yeah, there's a lot of-

• 1:51Stephanie Harlowe?

  They were talking about it, and they're like, local Facebook pages and stuff, because they kept seeing them.

• 1:55Derrick Levasseur?

  And there's video too. There's video too. So people should definitely check that out, because you can see his gait, his walk. These are all things that could help identify him.

• 2:04Stephanie Harlowe?

  So the reports say that the pink predator ominously trailed a group of terrified youngsters fresh off the school bus in Fredericksburg. This was around 4:30 PM on May 14th. And then this horrifying video shows him prowling along the grassy roadside near the Lafayette Boulevard corridor.

• 2:20Derrick Levasseur?

  Yes.

• 2:21Stephanie Harlowe?

  So this, this was happening and then a local resident posted on Facebook, quote, "This man stared down my son and one of the older neighbors from across the road." That's when this picture was snapped, unquote. Yep, that's the weird photo.

• 2:34Derrick Levasseur?

  It's just like, they didn't even care. They just like, sitting there staring. There might be something wrong with this person.

• 2:39Stephanie Harlowe?

  Now, apparently, according to eyewitnesses, he went after these four children who got off the bus. But he wasn't just following them. He like ran after them. They were terrified. And then he tried to grab the smallest one, but her sister pulled her away. So this isn't somebody who's just kind of dressed up like weird and trying to scare people. It looks like allegedly and reportedly that they're trying to grab kids. So

• 3:02Derrick Levasseur?

  Scary.

• 3:02Stephanie Harlowe?

  This was concerning.

• 3:03Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah.

• 3:04Stephanie Harlowe?

  And we're not, we're not really sure what's going on, but I guess the Pink Panther guy has been spotted multiple times and he even went into the store wearing the costume and then the store owner and several customers were like, "Hey, take your mask off." And they, he just ignored them and then kind of eventually left. But according to a clerk at one of the stores, she said, based on like a hole or like a tear in his costume, that she believes this was, uh, this is a man. But it's just weird because not only is it a Pink Panther costume, but he's kind of added stuff to it. So he's added like cowboy boots and this like plaid shirt.

• 3:48Stephanie Harlowe?

  And it's just very, very odd. So.

• 3:51Derrick Levasseur?

  Well, I think, I, I mean, it could be part of the costume. I don't know until we find this person. The cowboy boots and also this thing tied around their neck, which looks kind of like a bag. It's like a yellow printed, it almost looks like camo a little bit. It's not, but it looks camo. I do wonder if someone's gonna see this and recognize the boots. Or this bag as something they've seen someone else wearing at a particular time. And they might say, "Oh, you know what? I don't know where the Pink Panther costume came from, but I recognize those cowboy boots or I recognize that bag because this might be something that contains items this person is known to carry. There's only one other thing before you continue, Stephanie, that I want to point out. We're recording this on May 22nd. So you guys aren't going to

• 4:36Derrick Levasseur?

  be seeing or hearing this till next Wednesday. So just in case, because it's my guess, this person will be in custody long before this episode drops. Just keep that in mind. We're putting it out in the hopes that he is caught beforehand, but if you're watching this going, he's already been caught. We already know who he is. That is why we're recording this on May 22nd because we'll be gone next week for CrimeCon.

• 4:57Stephanie Harlowe?

  I don't know.

• 4:58Derrick Levasseur?

  Okay, so that's good. I think he gets caught.

• 5:01Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, I mean, that would be ideal, right? Because it's a very stressful situation. People are very, in Fredericksburg, people are very, very like stressed out about this. They don't like it at all, which I don't blame them. Just as you said, the way that they're taking pictures of him and he's just standing there across the street, looking at them, like not trying to hide, not afraid. And is this the fact that it's the boldness that you get when your, when your face is covered, when you know that no one can recognize you. But one of the women who was talking about this said, listen, like, I don't, I don't find this cute. I don't find this funny. If somebody's going to do something like this dressed in this ridiculous Pink Panther costume, what are they doing when their mask is off? Like,

• 5:44Stephanie Harlowe?

  this is not a normal person. This is not a person that has, you know, good intentions. This isn't someone who's trying to bring joy to children. This is someone who's trying to use this outfit as either a way to like lure children in or to not be spotted when he's, when he's taking them. And that's a concern.

• 6:02Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, for me, and this is speculation, but there's, there's one particular video where this person is just driving down like the center barrier. It's grass, but it's like between the roads and this person, it looks like it's hot out, is just walking down the road, not really paying attention to anyone. There's cars stopping, there's people taking photos and they're just walking. Now, my guess, just from just watching the couple of things we Have this person wasn't really being secretive about what they were doing. They were walking around in broad daylight.

• 6:33Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah.

• 6:33Derrick Levasseur?

  I'm going to.

• 6:34Stephanie Harlowe?

  Knew they were being filmed.

• 6:35Derrick Levasseur?

  They knew they were being filmed, didn't care.

• 6:36Stephanie Harlowe?

  Taking pictures.

• 6:37Derrick Levasseur?

  I'm going to speculate that when we find this person, it's more than likely going to be someone who either has some underlying mental health issues. Or is someone who is homeless right now and is just doing something. Because they don't care. I don't know. But that's my first thought where I'm thinking this is going to be someone who is known to the community. Who may have been seen without this costume on. And this is going to be someone that people are going to come forward and go, oh, that's. That's Joe. We always see Joe walk around with those cop, those cowboy boots and that backpack on. So that that's what I'm hoping because we need to figure out what their intention was.

• 7:13Stephanie Harlowe?

  Well, the Fredericksburg Police Department says they take these incidents very seriously. They've increased paroles in the Lafayette Boulevard corridor, and they said residents are encouraged to remain vigilant and report any suspicious activities to authorities immediately. The investigation remains ongoing and the Fredericksburg Police Department is seeking the public's assistance. Anyone who has seen or interacted with the suspect. The Pink Panther is urged to contact the police department at five four zero three seven three three one two two. You can also make an anonymous tip and you can send a text to eight four seven four one one and text F P D tip.

• 7:50Stephanie Harlowe?

  Followed by your tip, or you can download the free F P D tip app available for Android and iPhones. So there's a lot of options. To make a tip. Now, I would assume when they say the suspect, they don't simply mean. This person wearing a Pink Panther costume. They mean, hey, if there's anybody you know, who like Derek said, has those boots or.

• 8:11Derrick Levasseur?

  Yes.

• 8:11Stephanie Harlowe?

  You know, has donned a Pink Panther costume before, has that walk, has that bag. Has talked to you or or you've heard someone talking about like, oh, I've been harassing kids wearing a Pink Panther costume, anything that might be related. Even if it's somebody you know or know of that you think could be the Pink Panther, you know, it's not like you're just accusing someone randomly. This isn't a weird witch trial, but. If you see something, say something.

• 8:34Derrick Levasseur?

  We have to identify the person. And once, like I said, once we figure out who this person is, then you could do a background on them, see what their criminal history at all is. Um, do they have stuff in their background that suggests that they've done something like this before? These are all things that need to be done. You can't take it for granted because clearly. You could have an innocent child who sees this person in a costume and to you and I, it looks creepy, but to them it might be like, oh my God, that's so cool. And if nobody's around, if there's no adult supervision and this person's small, whoever this guy is in the costume, they could take advantage of that. So we need to identify them immediately. And what I'm gonna do-

• 9:09Stephanie Harlowe?

  Well, that's the thing with these costumes, right? Where I saw firsthand, I just went on vacation with my kids and there was like these characters and costumes walking around this place and kids love it, okay? They love it. It's like they just immediately feel safe going up to an adult dressed in like a fluffy costume because it's, it's just something that I think as parents, we've almost trained our kids to do. Like we're at the mall and you know, the Cookie Monster is there and it's like, oh, it's Cookie Monster, go say hi to the Cookie Monster, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, you know, things like that. That's how they're growing up to think that that's a safe thing. Whereas adults, given the context, we're like, this is not a safe thing. This is weird. I don't care what this person's intention is. What you're doing is weird.

• 9:50Derrick Levasseur?

  Oh yeah, we have to-

• 9:51Stephanie Harlowe?

  And you need to stop.

• 9:52Derrick Levasseur?

  Definitely need to stop. And we're gonna put it out on our, our social media. If you're following us on Instagram, you'll see it's gonna be, we want people to be aware of this because more people should know about it. So again, it'll be out on our social media now as of this day. But if you see this video, I'm hoping if there's an update, I'll put it in the caption that this person has been identified. But you said there was another case that you felt was similar to this. I'm not aware of it. You just kind of alluded to it. I want to talk about that, but let's take a break. We'll be right back.

• 10:22Stephanie Harlowe?

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• 10:27Derrick Levasseur?

  What does that even mean?

• 10:28Stephanie Harlowe?

  You know, pretty packaging, trendy ingredients, promises nobody can actually explain. And at a certain point, when you keep trying things and buying things and seeing stuff that's like trendy, you have to ask yourself, is this stuff even doing anything?

• 10:43Derrick Levasseur?

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• 10:57Stephanie Harlowe?

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• 11:21Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, exactly. It's designed to strengthen the skin barrier and support collagen at the cellular level instead of just temporarily smoothing things over.

• 11:29Stephanie Harlowe?

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• 11:52Derrick Levasseur?

  Okay, well, at least you're honest.

• 11:54Stephanie Harlowe?

  But then I have to switch the number out in all of my like subscriptions and I never do that.

• 11:58Derrick Levasseur?

  Not good, you missed it.

• 12:00Stephanie Harlowe?

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• 12:59Stephanie Harlowe?

  Alright, so when you brought this to my attention, I was like, this reminds me of something that happened in 2016. And the reason that I know something about it is because I do Halloween every year on my channel. And so I'm always looking out for like creepy things that don't make sense to be a good Halloween case. And I, and I found out that there was this, this thing, this like rash of clown sightings in 2016. So it looks like it began on August 1st, 2016 in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Five pictures of a creepy clown in a vacant parking lot under a bridge in downtown Green Bay started coming in around 2am local time. And then they created a Facebook group shortly after this claiming that the

• 13:42Stephanie Harlowe?

  clown was named Gags. And then in the days that followed, pictures were discussed on numerous news outlets. So this kind of went viral, the same way this Pink Panther thing is going. They were wondering like, oh, you know, was this because of an unreleased film? And it was promotion. But then after the Wisconsin incident, numerous other incidents started popping up across the US. And at the end of 2016, according to the New York Times, reports began to surface of clown sightings in Greenville County, South Carolina in late August. And it was rumored in Greenville that clowns were attempting to lure children into the woods with money. Where these clowns are like loitering around parks, schools, things like that. There was a clown sighting in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, where this

• 14:25Stephanie Harlowe?

  clown was offering treats to children. And then when the police arrived, the clown fled. And then in early October of 2016, there were other incidents reported in Canada. And then there were incidents that were occurring after this in the United Kingdom and Australia. And this kind of went like, it seems to start in the United States, but then kind of went over to Canada, and then into the UK, and then into Australia. And it was stressing people out. So according to the New York Times, the clown sightings resulted in at least 12 arrests across the United States. And in Redding, Pennsylvania, a 16 year old boy was fatally stabbed during an incident that could have been provoked by a prowler

• 15:06Stephanie Harlowe?

  wearing a clown mask. And the charges, obviously related to the sightings, included making false reports, threats, chasing people. So as this is kind of going on...

• 15:18Stephanie Harlowe?

  You're hearing more and more people on social media saying, oh, I'm seeing a clown here. Now, you don't know which ones are real or which ones are people kind of just taking advantage of the initial clown sightings. Yeah. Or just people doing it for social media clout like, hey, hey, Mark, my friend, dress up in a clown costume. And I'm going to take a picture of you acting creepy in the woods and I'm going to post it on social media.

• 15:37Derrick Levasseur?

  Yep, and see people's reactions. Yeah. Stephanie, that's a dangerous game to play these days.

• 15:41Stephanie Harlowe?

  Right?

• 15:42Derrick Levasseur?

  That's a day I wouldn't, uh, we're talking about a lot tonight. I wouldn't recommend anybody and someone who has a teenager. Don't be out there messing with people for TikTok videos because you've seen since situations where you choose the wrong person. And they end up defending themselves and someone can end up dead. So not a game you want to play.

• 16:01Stephanie Harlowe?

  Have you ever seen those videos where people dress up like they look like creepy? And then they're like rushing into elevators where people are and like scaring them.

• 16:09Derrick Levasseur?

  I've seen a lot of that stuff and I it's not, it's gonna, there's gonna be a tragedy for sure.

• 16:13Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yes, I if there I'm surprised there hasn't been already.

• 16:16Derrick Levasseur?

  There has been one. I don't know the name of it. It was a TikTok video. A guy was doing it. And, uh, someone was shot. Someone was shot because they were messing around with this guy. And yeah, it was, it was not good.

• 16:26Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah. So I mean, what it ends up looking like, because we're obviously, you know, a good 10 years past 2016. It ends up looking like that original Green Bay, Wisconsin sighting was like a marketing stunt for an indie horror film called Gags. Okay. So not anything nefarious on its own there. And then a lot of the other clowns were pranksters, social media people, local teenagers aspiring TikTok content people. But then there was a small, dangerous minority that consisted of actual criminals who were using the anonymous nature of this clown mask and clown costume to commit crimes, uh, to chase people with weapons or make anonymous threats against schools and children.

• 17:11Stephanie Harlowe?

  So once again, it kind of boils down to. Yes, the whole point of this costume is it could be, oh, it's just maybe it's a Pink Panther marketing thing. No, I don't think so.

• 17:22Derrick Levasseur?

  This definitely isn't for sure. The costume isn't even that nice. It looks like tattered and beat up.

• 17:27Stephanie Harlowe?

  It looks pretty bad. Looks like something you just kind of found in a garbage, maybe, right?

• 17:31Derrick Levasseur?

  That's why I'm leaning, by the way. It's not like I'm trying to target a specific group. That's why I'm leaning towards someone who who may be homeless, who may have found this and threw it on, thought it was funny. Maybe they were scaring the children. We need to find out what they were doing and where they got it from.

• 17:44Stephanie Harlowe?

  That's where it comes down to the small percentage of these clown people were actual criminals or unstable individuals that were using

• 17:52Derrick Levasseur?

  They were hiding it.

• 17:53Stephanie Harlowe?

  Being covered up by the costume to pretty much be like, hey, I I'm not Clark Kent anymore. I'm Superman. I can do whatever the hell I want. And so that's what we have to be concerned about. And because I don't think this Pink Panther thing falls in the other two categories of a marketing thing or a copycat because there's no Pink Panther copycatting thing to do here. It seems to be something that we really need to take seriously and get to the bottom of.

• 18:15Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, especially with the allegations that they were trying to grab kids. I mean,

• 18:19Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah.

• 18:19Derrick Levasseur?

  Overall, it's it's not a good situation and it's not something that anybody should take lightly. But there is a possibility that when they find this person, again, without seeing the reports of what actually occurred, from what we're hearing, they tried to grab a kid. And so I'm going to take them at their word. That's a problem. That could be a charge right there. But I we need to identify this person, like I said before, figure out who they are, their past, any issues they've had, where they're from, all these different things. Let them tell their side of the story. But it it's concerning on the surface because I think about this person being somewhere that's more secluded, maybe not on a main road. And if nobody's watching and they run into a child, what's going to happen then?

• 19:03Stephanie Harlowe?

  Well, if you do it in broad daylight, when you know people are driving by and people are watching and people are taking, you know, videos, then what's

• 19:09Derrick Levasseur?

  Complete disregard for what anybody thinks.

• 19:10Stephanie Harlowe?

  Exactly.

• 19:11Derrick Levasseur?

  And that's the concern. Like if nobody else is around or in that instance that you brought up there where You have those multiple children there where they were able to help the smallest one. What if it's only a solo child? What if they're by themselves? So it is definitely concerning and I think I, I do have a, a hot take about costumes and masks in general. I, I want to take the break and then we could talk about it because I have a feeling you may not agree with me and I have a feeling that maybe.

• 19:38Stephanie Harlowe?

  I probably will. If you have a hot take about masks and costumes, I'm probably going to agree with you because I do too.

• 19:43Derrick Levasseur?

  Maybe you guys out there won't agree with me, but I want to talk about it because this is a perfect segue to discuss it because I've always felt this way. But let's take our last break and we'll be right back.

• 20:00Derrick Levasseur?

  Okay, we're back from break and again, I might get some heat for this one. I'm fine with it and there may even be some constitutional issues with it. I'm just speaking out loud with you guys. It's a circle of trust and we're talking. You know, COVID happened and obviously we had to take some precautions there because of, you know, there was the report that it was airborne and all. That's a whole different conversation, right? Cause a lot of the masks people were using were not protecting them anyways. But there's something to be said about people covering up their face in public situations. Now let me just put it out there. If you have a medical condition or something of that and you need.

• 20:36Stephanie Harlowe?

  An immune, you're immune.

• 20:37Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, and you need to wear a mask. I'm all for it. Maybe there's something that can be given by a doctor where you can carry a card to let them know like you need to do this for your health.

• 20:47Stephanie Harlowe?

  But there was a lot of people there who weren't just wearing a mask during that time. They were wearing a mask like that covered their full face. They had their hoods up. It's like, these were the people that were taking advantage of the COVID situation.

• 20:58Derrick Levasseur?

  Right.

• 20:59Stephanie Harlowe?

  To, to mask their faces and then do whatever they wanted. This is not, this is a different thing.

• 21:03Derrick Levasseur?

  And this has been going on even before COVID, right? Because even now you'll have people who are wearing masks or even around Halloween, not just Halloween, but like the month of October and into November, where people are wearing, they're covering their faces and I can just speak about myself. Those situations have always concerned me because I'm going to ask the natural question, why are they covering their face? It's, you know, 70, 80, 90. Degrees outside and they're even even they're just wearing a small mask, not a full costume, which is an obvious red flag. I have always gotten concerned in those environments because it makes me wonder what their intention is. Do are they are their immune systems compromised? Are they trying to do something that they don't want their identity to be revealed?

• 21:45Derrick Levasseur?

  And as a former cop, my I always go to worst case scenario. Like, are they about to pull out a gun on us? You know, I don't know. And what do you what's your first thoughts on that? Before we keep going?

• 21:55Stephanie Harlowe?

  I mean, for me, it's not even about like medical masks. Like, if it's not Halloween, there is absolutely no reason for you to be out in public, wearing a costume or a mask of any kind. Get the hell out of here. What are you doing? If it is not Halloween, you need to go back home and put on normal people clothes. Because I am not comfortable with this, because if I see anybody wearing like a mask or a costume, and it's like August or March, and you're walking about in the public, I immediately think you're up to no good.

• 22:24Derrick Levasseur?

  Right. And you know, there's gonna be marketing stunts and things like that. That's cool. Because here's the thing.

• 22:31Stephanie Harlowe?

  If it's in a dedicated place where you're aware that's happening.

• 22:34Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, if you're standing outside a pizza place and you're

• 22:36Stephanie Harlowe?

  If you're at a Comic Con, if I'm at a Comic Con, and I'm walking around the city where Comic Con is happening, yeah, I'm gonna expect to see that, right? I'm gonna expect to see people dressed up like Zelda or Link, you know, that's that's whatever.

• 22:48Derrick Levasseur?

  I may be dressed up as Iron Man.

• 22:49Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, exactly. That's fine. That's fun. But if it's just a right, there's nothing, there's no event happening, there's not like a dedicated thing that I'm aware is happening, I'm suspicious, I'm unsettled.

• 23:00Derrick Levasseur?

  Definitely wary.

• 23:01Stephanie Harlowe?

  I don't want to be around you.

• 23:02Derrick Levasseur?

  I got a ton of masks at my house. I posted on Instagram a couple of times. I love the masks. I have all the Marvel and DC masks.

• 23:07Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yes, they're fun. But you're not walking to the store and buying milk in it.

• 23:11Derrick Levasseur?

  And I I'm interested to hear the general take on this from you guys. I just think if you're out in public, and you don't have a medical condition, or it's not a marketing thing where you have a permit for it, and you're not in a public area where everyone can see you, I think there should be, you know, it's not gonna be a law that gets passed, but like a city ordinance, where you're not allowed to wear a mask unless you have some type of medical documentation supporting why you would need to wear that mask. I think it makes people uncomfortable. And yeah, there is a constitutional side to it where on the surface, you can wear whatever you want. But I'll also say you can't walk into a public place naked. That's a crime.

• 23:48Stephanie Harlowe?

  You can't technically wear whatever you want.

• 23:51Derrick Levasseur?

  So there are restrictions and

• 23:54Derrick Levasseur?

  Maybe, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe everyone's gonna come at us and say, Stephanie and Derek, you're wrong. But I think most people, ask yourself truly, when someone walks in and they look relatively healthy and they're wearing a mask and it's, they're in a t-shirt, right? Are you concerned? Or is it something where you're like, eh, I'm just kind of used to it now after, you know, post-COVID? Doesn't really bother me.

• 24:15Stephanie Harlowe?

  See, for that, it really, it doesn't bother me if it doesn't feel like they're trying to conceal more. Like, if you don't have, like, one of those masks where it's like, hiding everything but your eyes, and you have your hood pulled up, like, and I saw plenty of that during COVID, and that made me, and there were reports of many people using that anonymous nature to commit crimes. So I don't think you're trying to protect your health at that point. I think you're trying to hide your identity.

• 24:38Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah.

• 24:39Stephanie Harlowe?

  But yeah, just a normal, like, what the hell, N95 mask?

• 24:44Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, the little paper mask, the little paper mask.

• 24:45Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, you don't have a hood up, I can see your eyes, you know, like, nowadays.

• 24:50Derrick Levasseur?

  That is true. That is a good point, like, totality, right? Like, and also, I feel like I have to qualify everything. If I see a 70, 80-year-old little woman coming in with her mask on, I'm not like, oh, she's probably gonna be the next shooter, you know, like, I use common sense, too, right? But you're right. If you see bigger guy come in there, he's got a mask on, he's got a hood up, and it's 85 degrees outside and he's got a backpack on, the mask really, really concerns me. Where, without the mask, the backpack wouldn't be as concerning. But when you're covering up your identity, I do ask myself naturally, why don't this, why doesn't this person want me to see their face? Could be completely innocent.

• 25:27Stephanie Harlowe?

  I think a backpack is concerning to me all the time now, too. What is up with that? Like, I'm nervous about that.

• 25:32Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, I mean, I wear a back, you know I wear a backpack. I, I have a backpack everywhere I go. If you see me at Crime Count, I got a backpack on, or a backpack with me.

• 25:39Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, but if you're traveling or whatever, but if you're just like, walking into, into a store, you know, like, why do you have a backpack on?

• 25:45Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, no, it's, it's definitely totality, but to bring it back to these, to, to more, the more extreme, what we're talking about tonight, this Pink Panther thing, guys walking around, grown adults walking around in costumes, this seems like it could be something more nefarious, but we have seen the TikToks and the Instagram reels where people are dressing up in costumes and scaring people. It's something that needs to be regulated because it gives...

• 26:10Derrick Levasseur?

  Those people who have ill intentions, opportunities to disguise themselves. And that's concerning, but.

• 26:16Stephanie Harlowe?

  Yeah, you might be just be trying to have fun, but some people ruin the fun for all of us.

• 26:19Derrick Levasseur?

  Exactly, and someone could see it not as fun and you could end up getting hurt. Can you give them the, could you give them the call to action one more time on the Pink Panther thing? Where they can go, we'll end it with that, where if you guys see this person, by all means, call in, or if you think you know who the person is, please, call in, it's, it's better to identify them sooner than later.

• 26:38Stephanie Harlowe?

  Anyone who has seen or interacted with the suspect is urged to contact the Fredericksburg Police Department at 540-373-3122. To make an anonymous tip, you can text 847-411 and text FPDtip, followed by the tip, or download the free FPDtip app available for Android and iPhones.

• 26:57Derrick Levasseur?

  Okay, and to end this episode on a positive note, we have one more birthday shout out, Patreon shout out, Alyssa Glavin.

• 27:04Stephanie Harlowe?

  May 30th.

• 27:05Derrick Levasseur?

  May 30th, I think I can say that, not your, I won't say your year. Stephanie, give them the horoscope real quick.

• 27:10Stephanie Harlowe?

  Well, I mean, listen, this is, Alyssa's a Gemini, so I love, I love me a Gemini. Um, some of my longest relationships and my best relationships are with Geminis. My sister Samantha, her birthday is May 24th, she's a Gemini, my mother's a Gemini. And you know, they get bad, they get bad reps, okay? They get the whole like, oh, two personalities, like duality thing, which, yeah, that's true, but listen, Aquarius and Geminis get along very, very well. They do have a tendency, I think, more so June Geminis to kind of have that duality. Uh, but most of my Geminis are May Geminis, like Alyssa. And I just think they're very, um, creative.

• 27:54Stephanie Harlowe?

  They can get very focused on things, they have a great like personal drive. Yes, they can be a little flighty sometimes, but so, so can I, okay, so can I. And I'm, I'm totally okay with that. I love my air signs. Geminis are great. You might think Aquarius is a water sign because they're the water bearer, but Aquarius is an air sign, so I love my air signs. And so, happy birthday Alyssa, we appreciate you, we appreciate you being a part of Patreon. And, uh, love me some Gemini.

• 28:19Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, and Patreon is is we're building it right now. It's been popping in there in the discussion boards. We got multiple chats going on. We release our episodes early and ad free. So if you're someone who doesn't like the ads, both audio and video, you'll get them ad free. If it's not something you want to deal with, you don't have to anymore. We also have Crime Weekly Plus on Apple Podcast where if you want to go on there and get the episodes ad free, you can do that as well. Plus, probably the biggest plus about Patreon and Crime Weekly Plus, it's not the discussion, it's not the cameos or birthday shout outs, it's the bonus episodes. We've already done two. They've been really fascinating cases and you can get access to them either through Patreon or Crime Weekly Plus.

• 29:01Derrick Levasseur?

  And here's the best part, if you're a Spotify user, but you have the Patreon account, it integrates right with it. So you can go on your Spotify and it automatically links your Patreon account. So you don't even have to go on Patreon if you want the free episodes. It's really cool. If you want to check it out, head over on Patreon. Think you're gonna love it. You can even do a free trial to check it out without any cost at first. It's a you get a lot of value out of it. So we'd love to have you in the discussion chats. That's gonna do it for us. We'll be back later this week with Carrie Farver, part three. Gonna be a good one. I think this is, is this our last part? We got one more after this.

• 29:35Stephanie Harlowe?

  One more part.

• 29:35Derrick Levasseur?

  We got part three. The case is crazy right now. The twists and turns are insane.

• 29:39Stephanie Harlowe?

  Remember at the end of part two, you were like, this is where it should be ending, but it's just beginning.

• 29:44Derrick Levasseur?

  Yeah, and here we are. You're telling me there's a part four. So now my head's already thinking like, okay, what else could happen?

• 29:49Stephanie Harlowe?

  Oh, what else could happen?

• 29:50Derrick Levasseur?

  Where we need a part four, but here we are. We appreciate the love and support, guys. We'll see you later this week. Be safe out there. Talk to you soon.

• 29:57Stephanie Harlowe?

  Bye.