Pod Insights Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend The Prophet and The Reacharound with Special Guest Kevin Nealon About this episode Conan and special guest Kevin Nealon chat with luchador Chris from Tucson about his wrestling persona The Prophet, his new agua frescas line, and what Conan and Kevin’s wrestling tag team duo would be called.
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1:43 Speaker 01 Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Wanna talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com/callconan. Okay, let's get started. Hey, Chris, welcome to Conan Needs a Fan with Conan and special guest Kevin Nealon.
1:58 Conan O'Brien? Kevin Nealon's joining us today. Chris, how are ya?
2:01 Speaker 02 I'm doing well, and yourself?
2:03 Conan O'Brien? Oh, great. We're doing okay. Where are you coming to us from, Chris?
2:06 Speaker 02 The Dirty T, Tucktown, Tucson, Arizona.
2:10 Conan O'Brien? All right. I was gonna say Tijuana. I know.
2:15 Conan O'Brien? And tell us a little bit about yourself. I just have a little scrap of paper here that says that you are a... This is impressive. You're a luchador, is that right? You're a wrestler?
2:24 Speaker 02 Yeah, I've been in the wrestling business for 27 years now.
2:28 Conan O'Brien? Okay. Jeez. This is incredible. And you wrestle yourself? Do you have a... He wrestles himself. Yeah, well, we've all done that. What is that all about? Mostly in adolescence. That's not very fair.
2:40 Conan O'Brien? There's a fix in. He always throws it to himself. Christopher, you have a character, right, when you're wrestling?
2:48 Speaker 02 Yeah, I'm fully masked. I have a character named The Prophet.
2:51 Conan O'Brien? The Prophet? That's a great name. It's a great, it's a great name for a wrestler. And do we have a photograph? I think we have a photograph of you. Oh. Oh my god. Look at this. Look at that. That is impressive. So...
3:05 Speaker 02 Thank you.
3:06 Conan O'Brien? You are The Prophet. Tell us, when you're in character as the... These are great. Jeez, look at this. Tell us a little bit about this character, The Prophet. Are you someone who believes he's a prophet, or is your character really a prophet? Does he have magical powers? Can he see the future?
3:23 Speaker 02 It's more of a mystique type thing. A very quiet, just straight to the point. I get in the ring and do my job.
3:30 Conan O'Brien? Yep.
3:31 Speaker 02 And just represent myself that way.
3:33 Conan O'Brien? Do you have a signature move you do, Chris?
3:36 Speaker 02 It's called the prophecy.
3:37 Conan O'Brien? Oh, what does that involve? Yeah, tell us about the prophecy. Do you... That sounds great. So, this signature move is called the prophecy, and at some point during your battle, you say, "Now it's time for the prophecy." And then what do you do?
3:53 Speaker 02 So I hook their arm over mine. I pick them up sideways like a body slam. I swing their body out and sit down and slam it.
4:03 Conan O'Brien? My god. That's so prophetic. Can I say something?
4:08 Speaker 03 That's so prophetic, man.
4:10 Conan O'Brien? Can I say something? That is a greater prophecy than anything I've read in the Old or New Testament. And I think, I think if those were the prophecies, people would really pay attention. There'd be much more religion in the world.
4:20 Speaker 03 Absolutely.
4:21 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, that's very impressive.
4:23 Speaker 02 Thank you.
4:24 Conan O'Brien? You have to be an amazing athlete to be a wrestler and to do it at the level that you've been doing it at for so long. Have you had some bad injuries? Tell us about that.
4:36 Speaker 02 I think I've been pretty fortunate, but around 10 years in, I did break my elbow. I had to get surgery on that.
4:42 Conan O'Brien? Mm-hmm.
4:43 Speaker 02 But the weirdest thing that happened to me is I came down with a condition called rhabdomyolysis.
4:48 Conan O'Brien? Hmm.
4:50 Speaker 02 And that's basically where my muscles were breaking down and being filtered through my kidneys. So my urine was black.
4:58 Speaker 03 And that's bad?
5:02 Conan O'Brien? No, no, no, no, no. No, not yet.
5:05 Speaker 03 Here, amount.
5:05 Conan O'Brien? Uh, Chris, get to the bad part. Yeah, get to the part where it's really... I mean, I don't think it's someone... There's not a person here who's not peeing some black urine right now. But wait a minute, why did this happen? Why... What is it about this condition? It breaks down your muscles, uh, and then converts it into a thick sludge that you then pee out.
5:27 Speaker 03 When you're on... You do that while you're standing on the ropes in the corner? Is that some kind of a defense, like an oil slick?
5:34 Conan O'Brien? It's like a... You know what you should have done, Chris? You should have called your character... You should have called your character "The Squid", and just whenever you're about to lose, you shoot out this black stream. And your, your opponent is immediately immobilized.
5:50 Speaker 03 How many costumes do you have, Chris?
5:53 Speaker 02 Uh, probably around 15.
5:56 Conan O'Brien? Okay.
5:57 Speaker 03 Do you have one for more of like a formal fight? Or is it, uh...
6:01 Speaker 02 They're all the same, just different colors, and I make all my outfits myself.
6:04 Conan O'Brien? I want to show some empathy here. Kevin, just stop for a second.
6:08 Speaker 03 I'm loving it.
6:09 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, I know you're loving it, but I wanted to make sure. Chris, how did you get rid of this terrible disease? And are you cured now? And then we'll get on to all the bits about... Have you got a cumberbund? You know?
6:22 Speaker 02 So basically.
6:23 Conan O'Brien? Do you ever wear a carnation? What happened to this disease?
6:28 Speaker 02 They needed to flush my system out, so I was in the hospital for a week on a IV. That was all I was doing.
6:34 Conan O'Brien? Right.
6:34 Speaker 02 It was for me a vacation.
6:36 Conan O'Brien? Okay, it's always a vacation when you can just squirt out some black urine in a hospital. So then you recovered and the disease does not continue once it's flushed out, is that correct?
6:46 Speaker 02 I haven't got it again, but I'll honestly say I don't think I was ever 100% after that.
6:50 Conan O'Brien? Oh, I apologize.
6:52 Speaker 03 It kinda looks like you have black pee coming out of your ears right now from those wires.
6:55 Conan O'Brien? Oh, those are, those are headphones, Kevin.
6:59 Speaker 03 I'm talking about the wires.
7:01 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, I know.
7:04 Speaker 03 Chris, let's get back to the cummerbund.
7:06 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, hey, Chris, I'm sorry that I asked you momentarily about your health.
7:10 Speaker 03 Followed up on that question.
7:11 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, I'm really sorry about it. So yeah, so you went wee wee, it was all black. Hey, would you wear a tuxedo in the ring ever?
7:20 Speaker 03 You got a lot of fans, you got a lot of fans, Chris? What's your fan base?
7:26 Speaker 02 Tucson, Tucson, Arizona, I built a pretty good following here. We do regular shows at the Rialto Theater downtown.
7:33 Conan O'Brien? Hey, are you a good guy or a bad guy? Are you the heel or are you the hero?
7:37 Speaker 02 Uh, so I've been the hero for the majority of my career, but two years ago I turned heel and had a little feud with another wrestler. That was the last time I wrestled, I haven't had a match in two years.
7:48 Conan O'Brien? Okay, who's your arch enemy? Did you have a nemesis, someone who the prophet always hated? You know, the cummerbund or whatever the other guy was?
7:58 Speaker 02 Well, the coolest thing I've done storyline wise was I had a feud against myself, the false prophet.
8:05 Conan O'Brien? Oh, that's a great idea.
8:08 Speaker 02 Yeah, we stressed it out for a year, year and a half, we had a series of matches and we were playing tricks, you know, look over here while he's over there and vice versa, so it was fun.
8:19 Conan O'Brien? But wait a minute, did you play both characters?
8:22 Speaker 02 So I had, one of my original trainees became my disciple, basically.
8:28 Conan O'Brien? That's a great idea. Yeah, it's pretty cool. The false prophet is a terrific, and would the false prophet try to do the prophecy on you?
8:37 Speaker 02 Yes.
8:37 Conan O'Brien? I knew it.
8:39 Speaker 02 As agile as me, so we're able to do each other's moves.
8:42 Conan O'Brien? Now, if you each did the prophecy to each other, was it one of those things where it cancels out and there's like a bright flash?
8:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, a black hole.
8:51 Conan O'Brien? Yeah. These are good questions, Kevin. I'm sorry. Oh, this isn't sticky enough for my partner here.
8:57 Speaker 03 Can I get to like a real question?
8:59 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, sure. Go ahead. Yeah.
9:01 Speaker 03 Uh, Chris, you grew up as a Mormon, correct?
9:03 Speaker 02 I did.
9:03 Speaker 03 And did you watch wrestling growing up?
9:05 Speaker 02 Not till, uh, teenage years.
9:08 Conan O'Brien? Do you think the fact that you grew up in the Mormon faith steered you towards more of a religious character?
9:16 Speaker 02 That did, but the other factor was the 36 Mafia, because their record label was called Prophet Entertainment.
9:23 Conan O'Brien? Tell me about 36 Mafia. You're going crazy here.
9:26 Speaker 03 Yeah, hip hop, a famous hip hop group, rap group from the 90s and 2000s. Yeah.
9:30 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, yeah. And so, and so you were a fan of their music and then you saw that their record label was the Prophet or the Prophecy?
9:37 Speaker 02 Prophet, it was Prophet Entertainment.
9:39 Conan O'Brien? Nice.
9:40 Speaker 02 So I kind of ripped that off.
9:42 Conan O'Brien? We don't rip it off. You say, I was influenced. I was inspired, you know? I'm trying to protect you from legal action.
9:49 Speaker 03 Chris, you haven't wrestled in two years, right?
9:52 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's just really hard on my body these days, just trying to take it easy.
9:56 Speaker 03 Yeah. How do you stay busy?
9:58 Speaker 02 Uh, well, with the wrestling business, besides doing that, I also rent rings and get books for festivals and I'm also in the food world too, trying to start a food trailer.
10:11 Conan O'Brien? Oh, tell us about that.
10:13 Speaker 02 So I love Mexican food and I worked in a restaurant for a few years and I just came up with, uh, an Aguas Frescas drink line.
10:22 Conan O'Brien? Oh.
10:23 Speaker 02 So I want to start selling Aguas Frescas, but I want to call it Lucha Fresca, Fight Fresh.
10:28 Conan O'Brien? Nice. I like, hey, wait, that's a good idea. I would drink Lucha Fresca. I could do an ad for you. Um, you know, I would do, I would, I would be a, uh, and I know that
10:40 Speaker 03 You'd be a great spokesperson.
10:41 Conan O'Brien? You'll do an ad for anyone, uh, Kevin.
10:43 Speaker 03 I'll do it. I'll do anything for anybody. You know, the thing about drinks, what are they, is this water? Or is it?
10:49 Speaker 02 They're made out of water with the ingredient and then sugar.
10:52 Speaker 03 Okay, those are always healthy. Uh, I think a lot of times, you know, when you're selling a product, it's really the packaging that sells it. You know, like if you see these Topo Chico bottles, they look so refreshing.
11:04 Conan O'Brien? Yeah.
11:05 Speaker 03 A little condensation on them and, uh, cold bottle. What's your packaging looks like, Chris?
11:10 Conan O'Brien? That's not about the packaging at all.
11:12 Speaker 03 I'm talking to Chris.
11:13 Conan O'Brien? That's just a cold bottle. Any cold bottle has condensation on it.
11:16 Speaker 03 Chris, I'm sorry.
11:17 Conan O'Brien? How do you give the company credit for it being cold?
11:19 Speaker 03 You're our guest.
11:20 Conan O'Brien? That doesn't make any sense at all. You know, I love the, the new Ford Fiesta. Oh, what do you like about it? It's got some dew on it.
11:26 Speaker 03 Chris, if you want to call me later.
11:28 Conan O'Brien? It's been outside and we're in Portland. Yeah, that's what I like about it. It's just nice when it has that dew, that dewy look.
11:34 Speaker 03 Does it make you feel good to do that?
11:36 Conan O'Brien? It did.
11:36 Speaker 03 Does it make you feel good to bounce on people?
11:39 Conan O'Brien? I crushed you.
11:39 Speaker 03 You can call me later. We'll talk about it.
11:42 Conan O'Brien? Okay. Chris, I like this idea. I like this idea and what are you doing to make, uh?
11:48 Speaker 03 What kind of packaging are you putting on there?
11:50 Speaker 02 So I do have a clear bottles. They're very sleek and I do have a logo already. I might modify it, but I was just at a pop-up market this weekend and I sold uh, at least 15 bottles there. So that's my start.
12:04 Conan O'Brien? Okay. And do they have each one, is it coming in different flavors?
12:07 Speaker 02 Yeah. My main flavors right now is Jamaica and Tamarindo.
12:11 Speaker 03 My favorite flavors, by the way.
12:13 Conan O'Brien? Um, those are, I mean, this sounds promising. I think you might be on to something. Do you have any big money backers behind you?
12:19 Speaker 02 No.
12:19 Speaker 03 Have you taken it on Shark Tank?
12:22 Conan O'Brien? Would you take it on Shark Tank?
12:24 Speaker 02 I don't know. I mean, it's been done before. The Alves Frescas does exist, but maybe the way the packaging and the marketing might sell more than the other brands.
12:33 Conan O'Brien? I like the idea of Lucha Fresca. I think that's great.
12:35 Speaker 03 I like the name. Do you speak Spanish, Chris?
12:38 Speaker 02 Uh, I do. I've been practicing for like four years now on Duolingo, but I'm still not fluent.
12:43 Speaker 03 But that, that, uh, Lucha Fresca, man, that comes out nice.
12:47 Conan O'Brien? What are you talking about? Comes out nice?
12:48 Speaker 03 The way he says it.
12:49 Conan O'Brien? Oh, the way he says it.
12:51 Speaker 03 It also comes out nice.
12:53 Conan O'Brien? So, so strange, man.
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13:21 Speaker 01 Nice.
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16:35 Speaker 04 Oh.
17:12 Conan O'Brien? So you haven't wrestled, you think you're done wrestling, your wrestling day is over. It sounds to me like if you've done, if you haven't wrestled in two years, maybe that's it.
17:18 Speaker 03 No comeback?
17:19 Speaker 02 I'm not retired.
17:21 Speaker 03 Alright.
17:21 Speaker 02 Pretty much in the wrestling business, even if you retire, you don't.
17:25 Conan O'Brien? Right.
17:25 Speaker 02 Because you always get sucked back in, but, but I have wrestling ring, I still train and stuff like that, so.
17:31 Conan O'Brien? Now.
17:31 Speaker 02 I'm trying to just teach the new people.
17:33 Conan O'Brien? Chris, I hate to make this about me, but I, a number of years ago, did a show that I was very proud of in Mexico City and, um...
17:42 Speaker 03 Does it have a pony in it?
17:45 Conan O'Brien? What?
17:45 Speaker 03 Was there a pony in it?
17:46 Conan O'Brien? Why would there be a pony in it?
17:48 Speaker 03 Because it was a show in Mexico.
17:50 Conan O'Brien? Yeah? What's the connection?
17:52 Speaker 03 You don't travel much there.
17:56 Speaker 02 You're bringing up Tijuana again, huh?
17:58 Conan O'Brien? Just call an ambulance.
17:58 Speaker 03 I'm in a donkey, I'm in a donkey.
18:01 Conan O'Brien? Call an ambulance.
18:02 Speaker 03 Chris is dying, man, Chris is loving this.
18:04 Speaker 04 You said pony instead of donkey.
18:08 Conan O'Brien? Hey, I really don't get out much, I don't get out much. Kevin, I don't get out much, so I didn't know that ponies and Mexico City are synonymous.
18:18 Speaker 04 He meant donkey.
18:19 Conan O'Brien? He meant donkey.
18:20 Speaker 03 He got it, Chris got it.
18:22 Conan O'Brien? Hey, Mexico City, did you have a stapler when you went? Stapler? Why would I have a stapler?
18:26 Speaker 03 He's doing his bit.
18:26 Conan O'Brien? How do you know, Mexico City?
18:27 Speaker 03 He's doing his bit. He's doing the bit.
18:29 Conan O'Brien? Oh yeah, oh, you're doing that comedy thing, look at Conan doing his comedy thing.
18:33 Speaker 03 Doing a bit off of a bit now.
18:35 Conan O'Brien? Bit off a bit is just as legitimate as any bit. Hey, Christopher, I did this, uh, bunch of shows in Mexico City, very proud of that, those shows. One of the things I wanted to ask you was, did you see my luchador segment? I actually went into a ring in Mexico City and I had my own luchador character that I dressed up as. Anyone can see this as they go on, uh, what's it called?
18:57 Speaker 02 YouTube.
18:58 Speaker 03 I can pull it up now.
18:59 Conan O'Brien? There it is, the crazy rooster, I was the crazy rooster. There I am.
19:02 Speaker 02 A guy who local.
19:03 Conan O'Brien? I wrestled, what did you, have you, A, have you, are you familiar with that segment? And B, how do you think I did?
19:09 Speaker 02 Yeah, I've seen it multiple times, I love all your travel shows and that episode means a lot to me.
19:15 Conan O'Brien? Okay.
19:15 Speaker 03 Have you seen any of my stuff, Chris?
19:20 Speaker 02 In Mexico? No.
19:21 Speaker 03 It's all about Conan.
19:25 Conan O'Brien? We'll get through this, Chris. Just hang in there. Well, what did you think of my wrestling moves? Be honest.
19:30 Speaker 02 Yeah, I was, you're, I will say you are athletic and I know you have all this energy, so you pulled it off very well. And one of the guys in the ring with you is a former champion of mine.
19:41 Conan O'Brien? Oh, wow. Okay. So you actually, do you know where I was in Mexico City? Do you know the, the gym I was in?
19:46 Speaker 02 No, I don't.
19:47 Conan O'Brien? Okay, it was just a gym.
19:49 Speaker 02 Okay.
19:50 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, I think if I had to really wrestle, I'd be killed almost instantly.
19:56 Speaker 03 You'd be broken in half.
19:56 Conan O'Brien? Everyone was going very easy on me because they knew, oh, here's the comedian. We gotta go easy on him. I have a lot of respect for, for what you do and I think I'd have died within seconds of me entering. I think before I entered the ring, I would have died.
20:11 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
20:12 Conan O'Brien? You know?
20:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, I went to one of these wrestling matches a couple of years ago in New Jersey, whatever that big stadium is. And it was packed. It was like a Super Bowl.
20:21 Conan O'Brien? It's huge.
20:21 Speaker 03 And the ring in the bottom, John Cena come, came out, Cena? People going crazy.
20:26 Conan O'Brien? Yeah.
20:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
20:27 Speaker 03 I never knew it was that, that big.
20:30 Conan O'Brien? I did know it was that big. It's been big for a long, I'm sorry. And I
20:34 Speaker 03 No, because I like to read.
20:37 Conan O'Brien? Sure. Okay. Well, I also enjoy a book every now and then, but I've known for a while that wrestling is massive. So I'm glad that you've caught up to what's happening.
20:49 Speaker 03 You know, everything's massive. I just didn't know it.
20:51 Conan O'Brien? Uh huh.
20:52 Speaker 03 Because I live in my small world of knowledge.
20:57 Conan O'Brien? Okay, Chris.
20:58 Speaker 03 Chris, I'm sorry. We're back to you.
20:59 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, back to you.
21:01 Speaker 03 Enough about Conan.
21:03 Conan O'Brien? And his career. But I'm impressed that you keep coming up with new ideas. You're trying new stuff. I mean, that's, that's the game. We've all gotta keep going. We gotta keep trying things. And so I root for you. I do root for you. And this lucha fresca drink. I think it sounds great.
21:20 Speaker 02 Thank you. I appreciate it.
21:22 Conan O'Brien? Yeah.
21:22 Speaker 02 Everything I do to this day is basically out of necessity to get me to the next spot in life where I'm trying to go. So I've learned how to weld just to build rings and, you know, learn how to cook to sell it, to make money and stuff like that.
21:36 Speaker 03 Who do you like? Who's your favorite wrestler?
21:38 Speaker 02 Probably Mick Foley and Rey Mysterio Jr.
21:42 Conan O'Brien? What did you like about them particularly?
21:44 Speaker 02 Well Mick Foley is the hardcore legend. He just gives up his whole body to the business and just does everything he has to to make an impact.
21:53 Conan O'Brien? Yep.
21:54 Speaker 02 Mysterio is the biggest influence for me because I started becoming a luchador.
21:59 Conan O'Brien? Right.
21:59 Speaker 02 Inspired by what he could do and that made me think, well, can I do it? So 27 years later, the answer is yes.
22:06 Conan O'Brien? Isn't that, it's funny, you're talking about wrestling, it's really the same with comedy. We we grow up seeing people and you identify people that you wanna emulate. You wanna emulate them. You had that, right Kevin?
22:21 Speaker 03 Yeah, everybody does.
22:22 Conan O'Brien? Who did you have grown up?
22:24 Speaker 03 Mine were three, uh, three people. Uh, one was Chris, actually.
22:29 Conan O'Brien? Besides Chris, yeah.
22:30 Speaker 03 Chris, uh, no, it was, uh, Andy Kaufman.
22:32 Conan O'Brien? Yep.
22:33 Speaker 03 Uh, Albert Brooks and, uh, Steve Martin.
22:34 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, yeah.
22:35 Speaker 03 And you? You never really did stand up though.
22:37 Conan O'Brien? No, I never did stand up.
22:38 Speaker 03 But you did it at monologues on your shows.
22:40 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, uh, that's good. I'll put down before, um, he's amazing.
22:46 Speaker 03 Did you feel comfortable doing those monologues?
22:47 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, I did.
22:48 Speaker 03 Really?
22:49 Conan O'Brien? Yeah. Just called talent. Um, I, uh,
22:54 Speaker 03 Chris is watching this like watching his parents fight.
22:56 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, I'm sorry about this, Chris. Um, yeah, I had the same thing. It was, uh, Steve Martin and I mean, I'll also Albert Brooks. I mean, watching his films, watching the stuff that he would do on The Tonight Show, uh, that really inspired me. This, uh, conceptual comedy is that that blew me away. And of course, uh, Python, when Python finally showed up on my television, that blew my mind. SCTV, um.
23:22 Speaker 03 Well, I was basically just asking about comics, but okay.
23:28 Conan O'Brien? Okay, well, let's keep it to that now.
23:29 Speaker 03 I don't really want a history of comedy.
23:30 Conan O'Brien? I forgot how narrow you were. I'm sorry.
23:32 Speaker 03 I don't really want a history of comedy.
23:33 Conan O'Brien? No, no.
23:34 Speaker 03 I like, you know, Amati Python and I like, you know, I like, uh,
23:38 Conan O'Brien? Oh, bit off a bit, huh?
23:39 Speaker 03 Jackie Benny Show. Oh yeah, I do like a lot of that.
23:42 Conan O'Brien? Bit off a bit.
23:46 Conan O'Brien? We criticize what we are.
23:49 Conan O'Brien? Okay, well, listen. Christopher, it's very unusual. I've never had Kevin here when I talk to a fan, and we've tried this once. We won't do it again.
23:57 Speaker 03 Not with Conan, anyway.
24:03 Conan O'Brien? It's just gonna be Kevin from now on. But I understand you might have a question. Is that right?
24:08 Speaker 02 If you were a tag team, you and Kevin, what would be your characters or your names?
24:12 Conan O'Brien? That's interesting. So we're a team.
24:16 Speaker 03 The amoebas.
24:17 Conan O'Brien? The amoebas?
24:18 Speaker 03 Because we're kind of, right?
24:20 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, we're very similar. And then we could be amoebas where we have to, we enter the ring together, sort of enmeshed together, and then we split apart, one fights, and then that has to...
24:33 Speaker 03 I got a better idea.
24:34 Conan O'Brien? Wait, are you saying I shouldn't have run with this idea?
24:36 Speaker 01 This is lame.
24:37 Speaker 03 I got a better idea.
24:38 Speaker 01 Let's be amoebas.
24:39 Speaker 03 The Siamese twins.
24:42 Speaker 03 We fight in one costume.
24:44 Conan O'Brien? Wait.
24:46 Conan O'Brien? So...
24:46 Speaker 03 We're both in one costume.
24:47 Conan O'Brien? We're joined. And so the other one just doesn't do any... Well, one of, only one can fight at a time, and the other's just, is just sitting there?
24:54 Speaker 03 No, they both fight the same time. We both fight.
24:56 Conan O'Brien? It's much better if we're attached, but when I'm fighting, Chris, you're just doing nothing but looking around.
25:04 Speaker 03 As always.
25:05 Conan O'Brien? And you're very, and yeah, and, and kind of, yeah, you're just inert. And then when I tag you, you switch, and I, I swing to the rear.
25:13 Speaker 03 Oh.
25:13 Conan O'Brien? And now I'm behind you, and I'm looking at the crowd, and I'm a nerd.
25:16 Speaker 03 What move is that called, Chris? What we call that move? The little reach around?
25:21 Conan O'Brien? It's called, yeah, it's called the reach around. Yeah.
25:24 Speaker 03 Why? That sounds like a good idea.
25:27 Conan O'Brien? Yeah. Hey, look, they're doing the reach around. Conan and Kevin are doing the reach around.
25:32 Speaker 01 You guys would just be, you guys would die instantly. I think you're right.
25:37 Speaker 03 They would die.
25:37 Speaker 01 The moment that you walk into the ring, you would, everybody would hate you.
25:41 Conan O'Brien? They would hate us.
25:42 Speaker 01 Because you guys would be doing so many bits.
25:43 Conan O'Brien? We'd be doing bits in the ring. We'd be arguing and doing bits. And then whichever one wasn't wrestling, the other's just hanging off his back.
25:52 Speaker 03 On the phone.
25:53 Conan O'Brien? On the phone and doing bits. Yeah. On the phone buying stuff.
25:58 Speaker 01 The most hated duo in all of wrestling.
26:02 Conan O'Brien? Yeah.
26:03 Speaker 01 Everyone hates you guys so much.
26:06 Speaker 03 Hey, Boo says we're coming out on the walkway.
26:11 Conan O'Brien? You gotta admit, we would be hated. We would be good heels.
26:14 Speaker 03 But that's good to be hated in the ring, right? If you get a lot of hate coming at you, that's a good-
26:18 Speaker 02 Yeah, you're doing your job. You're doing your job properly.
26:21 Speaker 03 That's like Conan here.
26:23 Conan O'Brien? Okay.
26:25 Speaker 03 He's doing a good job, by the way.
26:27 Conan O'Brien? No, you're not cool. Just not cool.
26:31 Speaker 03 Chris, what are you doing tonight?
26:34 Speaker 02 Uh, I'm going to record drums with my band.
26:36 Conan O'Brien? Oh, tell us about your band.
26:39 Speaker 02 I'm in a punk rock band here in Tucson called Planet Strict Nine, PS9.
26:44 Conan O'Brien? That is great. And so, uh, you play drums?
26:47 Speaker 02 I'm the drummer, and we're gonna put out a record pretty soon. I just recorded like 20 tracks.
26:52 Conan O'Brien? Is it kind of like thrash metal? What are we talking? How hardcore is this?
26:55 Speaker 02 Uh, it's kind of like Bad Religion and those type of punk bands, Bouncing Souls.
27:01 Conan O'Brien? Yep. You gotta, where do you perform?
27:03 Speaker 02 Uh, the Rialto Theater sometimes, 191 Tool here, and we usually go to Bisbee, Arizona. That's where the band originally was from.
27:12 Speaker 03 Chris, is it a music we could dance to?
27:14 Speaker 02 You could get down to that, but you might get hit in the face.
27:18 Conan O'Brien? I'm about to hit him in the face. He's gonna get hit in the face. It won't have anything to do with your music.
27:23 Speaker 03 No, I like to go to the Rialto and dance.
27:25 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, I'm sure you do.
27:26 Speaker 01 Oh my god, if you guys were a tag team, you would fight each other more than you would fight the other people.
27:31 Conan O'Brien? Yeah, the wrestler, the wrestler, the wrestler would just be like, wait, what's going on? And you and I would just be wailing on each other.
27:38 Speaker 01 In one costume.
27:39 Conan O'Brien? In one costume, wailing on each other for the old reach around. We each reach around. Uh, all right, Chris, uh, I'm gonna let you go, Christopher. Christopher Hack, you are, uh, you're a gentleman, uh, and you seem like a very cool guy, and thank you very much for listening to our nonsense. Yeah, you're a good man.
27:58 Speaker 03 I apologize for Conan.
27:59 Conan O'Brien? And I apologize for Kevin, but I don't apologize for you, because you seem like a cool guy.
28:03 Speaker 03 Good luck with the band and the drink.
28:05 Conan O'Brien? Let the man speak!
28:06 Speaker 02 It was a pleasure.
28:06 Conan O'Brien? Yes, Chris?
28:08 Speaker 02 Uh, I just wanna shout out my company. It's called Rockstar Wrestling Alliance, because I do music and wrestling and put it together.
28:14 Conan O'Brien? Cool. Well, I always leave room, always leave room for the plug. Carson taught me that. Carson Daly.
28:19 Speaker 03 Hey, Chris, paintings, kevinnealanart.com.
28:23 Conan O'Brien? Unbelievable. Yeah, if you ever have trouble, just dial 911. All right, man. Take care. Bye-bye.
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