Spinal Tap Live From The SiriusXM Garage

Conan is joined by Spinal Tap’s Nigel Tufnel, Derek Smalls, and David St. Hubbins (Christopher Guest, Harry Shearer, and Michael McKean) as well as filmmaker Marty Di Bergi (Rob Reiner) for a conversation live from the SiriusXM Garage in anticipation of their long-awaited sequel documentary Spinal Tap II: The End Continues. Episode Sponsored by Airbnb For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com. Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (669) 587-2847.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Conan O'Brien?

  Hey, Conan O'Brien here. We're trying a little something different on this episode because it's a very special episode. We're gonna start out with fans, people who are here in the audience telling you how they feel about being Conan O'Brien's friend. But let's see what's on people's minds.

• 0:19Speaker 01

  Hi, my name's Eric D.

• 0:23Speaker 01

  And I feel wistful about being Conan O'Brien's friend.

• 0:26Speaker 02

  My name is Rebecca, and I feel vengeful. I feel elated. Overeager. So-so. Nervous.

• 0:33Speaker 03

  Lactose intolerant.

• 0:34Speaker 02

  Unprepared.

• 0:34Speaker 03

  Cautiously optimistic.

• 0:35Speaker 02

  I feel fine.

• 0:36Speaker 03

  Honored.

• 0:37Speaker 02

  Ginger chic. Fantastic.

• 0:38Speaker 03

  Swell. Fabulous.

• 0:39Speaker 03

  Unworthy. Stupendous. Shaking. Unoriginal. Nostalgic.

• 0:41Speaker 02

  Special. Suspicious.

• 0:41Speaker 02

  Vertically challenged. Triple like. Shocked. Committed. Convinced.

• 0:43Speaker 02

  Feliz.

• 0:44Speaker 03

  Short as fuck. Rasputaz.

• 0:44Speaker 02

  Preposterous. Lucky.

• 0:45Speaker 03

  Sneaky.

• 0:45Speaker 03

  Thankful. Silly. Flaccid. Choice. Mental.

• 0:47Speaker 02

  Stoked. Effusive.

• 0:47Speaker 03

  In awe.

• 0:47Speaker 03

  Kosher. Anxious. Apprehensive.

• 0:48Speaker 02

  Electric. Nuts. Stunned. Blessed. Ecstatic.

• 0:50Speaker 04

  Aroused. We excited. Everything. Rad as.

• 0:54Speaker 03

  Eep. Hi, my name's Amanda, and I feel frog about being Conan O'Brien's friend.

• 1:23Conan O'Brien?

  Thank you. Thank you very much. Please, please, please.

• 1:30Conan O'Brien?

  Don't chant the Conan. It sounds like a Salem witch trial. Very nice to see you. A gentleman tried to high-five me, fist bump on the way in. I don't do well with those. Do you? If you saw me on the street, would you hold up your hand? I don't. I never make a good connection. I'm usually holding something. I apologize to that gentleman, but those frighten me. How? All right.

• 1:53Conan O'Brien?

  Also, that can be confused for a fascist salute, which would have been funny five years ago, but now it's getting scary. How you all doing? You ready to go? All right.

• 2:07Conan O'Brien?

  This guy over here grew the beard that I had about eight years ago. Fantastic. That's my beard, man. I want it back. How are you? How long did it take you to grow that? Six hours. Six hours? Wow. You're just infused with testosterone. Mine took nine years. I mean, I sneezed and it fell off. This is a very special show that we have today. These guys are my heroes. I will time travel with you to 1984. I'm an incredible comedy nerd. I'm in Cambridge, Massachusetts. And one of my friends says, I believe it was Mark Silber, said, "Hey, let's go see Spinal Tap. It just came out. I hear it's funny." I said, "What is that?" He said, "You never seem to know anything. Your career will flounder."

• 2:51Conan O'Brien?

  And we took the tea over to a theater, and we saw Spinal Tap. And it opened so many doors in my mind to what was possible in comedy. And I just saw you, wearing the Conan shirt. You look lovely. How are you? Okay, all right. How are you? Nice to see you.

• 3:11Conan O'Brien?

  I used to go "awrrr," and I go "awrrr." Like a cat with leukemia. Sorry, dark image, but it happens. It happens all the time. Okay, that was nothing. My point is that that movie meant so much to me. And if you had told that guy, I'm not at all jaded. I'm very sentimental, and I have a very good contact with the young Conan of 1984. And I'm able to access that guy. And he's freaking out right now because he's gonna hang out with the people who changed his life all those years ago. So that's awesome for me. And it's nice that you're all here to take part in that.

• 3:53Conan O'Brien?

  I think we're gonna have a very good time. Play Spinal Tap, guys. Do they mean anything to you? I know you're very young. I mean, when I say young, you're like in your late 50s. Yeah, iconic. I'm so excited. Okay, very good. You've been working on that answer all day. He was riding in his car. Iconic, I'm so excited. Iconic, I'm so excited. Iconic, excited me I am. Uh, we're gonna have a good time. We're gonna have a great time. I've been looking forward to this show for a while. Look, there are times I'm talking to a guest and I absolutely loathe them. And I think you can tell, all of them, uh, I mean, people I despise.

• 4:24Speaker 05

  I think we just saw that when you talked to me.

• 4:26Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah. Well, no, we've never done it. You've never been on a guest on the podcast.

• 4:28Speaker 05

  Oh, that's true.

• 4:29Conan O'Brien?

  And for good reason. Um, you and I are oil and water in the best way. We make a good salad dressing. Uh, I think we should get the show started. Um, thank you all very much for being here. You're a big part of this show. And we're gonna have a good time, but really, there is no Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend without two of my good friends. And I say that in quotes. Um, cause I wanna create some emotional detachment from them. Sona Movsesian and Matt Gora. Let's get them in here.

• 5:02Speaker 06

  Yay, us, everybody. Yay.

• 5:05Conan O'Brien?

  Um, it's a very long corridor to get from backstage to this. It's a strange setup here at Sirius XM in LA. And so what happens is, what people are hearing at home is a sustained applause. Like our screening of our movie at the Venice Film Festival just aired.

• 5:21Speaker 05

  Oh, like a 10 minute.

• 5:22Conan O'Brien?

  And it's getting a nine minute, because that's people very graciously applauding and cheering after we've been announced, but then 10 minutes of us walking and avoiding high fibers. I see you, you son of a bitch.

• 5:35Conan O'Brien?

  In the hallway, it's this long walk. And that creates the, uh, audio illusion for the people listening, uh, at home, that you guys got that long sustained applause.

• 5:45Speaker 04

  We were right outside the door.

• 5:47Conan O'Brien?

  No, you weren't.

• 5:47Speaker 04

  When you called us. Yeah, we were.

• 5:48Conan O'Brien?

  No, you weren't.

• 5:49Speaker 04

  And we walked in and they just wouldn't stop.

• 5:51Conan O'Brien?

  You, I announced you, and I have, I'm access to your app. You called an Uber. You called an Uber as I announced you.

• 5:59Speaker 04

  You have access to my app?

• 6:00Conan O'Brien?

  I have access to all your apps. You pervert. I have access to your own app. I don't have.

• 6:04Speaker 04

  I have access to your apps, and that's true.

• 6:06Conan O'Brien?

  Do you know that I can't, I can't post on social media? I'm not allowed to? I'm like Ronald Reagan with the nuclear codes. They... They, they, they won't let me near any way that I could possibly start riffing spontaneously online. And so Sona, I would have to call you.

• 6:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's true.

• 6:28Conan O'Brien?

  If I want to order a hamburger on Grubhub, not a sponsor, um, I would, I would have to call you. I do that with my wife, too. I'm like, can you order the pizza that's next door?

• 6:40Speaker 04

  I do, my email is attached to your Uber and the food delivery services. So every time you order something or an Uber, it pops up and I know exactly where you're going.

• 6:52Conan O'Brien?

  Right.

• 6:52Speaker 04

  I know exactly what you're eating.

• 6:54Speaker 07

  Yeah, so we have some questions about some places you've been going.

• 6:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:58Conan O'Brien?

  I didn't know Hooters delivered. I was just stunned. Wait, Stacy's a wonderful lady.

• 7:05Speaker 07

  They deliver waitresses?

• 7:06Conan O'Brien?

  Stacy with an I and it's a little heart. She comes and delivers it and we just chat about, you know, how the Berlin Wall fell and it just, uh, all kinds of fascinating stuff. Yeah.

• 7:17Speaker 07

  We have some interesting facts about this audience. Do you know that some of them come from far and wide to be here?

• 7:22Conan O'Brien?

  I would hope so, because this is a, this of all the shows we've done, this is going to be up there with one of the most important ones.

• 7:28Speaker 07

  I think so. When you hear this, not only Toronto, where are you?

• 7:31Speaker 04

  Awkward.

• 7:34Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, that is so awkward. Maybe they didn't make it here.

• 7:37Speaker 04

  Awkward.

• 7:39Conan O'Brien?

  Wait, who gave you this information?

• 7:40Speaker 07

  So I, I was, I think it's just.

• 7:42Speaker 04

  You don't, you don't need the mic, Blay.

• 7:43Conan O'Brien?

  You know, I love that your mic doesn't even hurt.

• 7:46Speaker 04

  You don't need it, though. That's the good.

• 7:47Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, Mike, you don't need your mic. Just speak.

• 7:49Speaker 07

  I think it's just.

• 7:49Conan O'Brien?

  No, you don't have to, Mike, Blay.

• 7:51Speaker 04

  You're so close to the microphone, too.

• 7:53Speaker 07

  If anything, could you step out of the room and just talk at a whisper? We'll still hear you.

• 7:56Conan O'Brien?

  Blay, you're the loudest person we know and you're in a small room.

• 7:59Speaker 04

  You inserted it into your mouth.

• 8:00Speaker 07

  Maybe just Canada. I thought it was Toronto, but maybe just Canada.

• 8:03Speaker 04

  Canada.

• 8:04Speaker 07

  No, maybe.

• 8:05Conan O'Brien?

  You know what, can I just?

• 8:06Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 8:07Speaker 07

  I don't know.

• 8:08Conan O'Brien?

  So who are you?

• 8:09Speaker 07

  How about California?

• 8:10Conan O'Brien?

  Okay. Wait a minute. Well, Blay.

• 8:12Speaker 07

  All right, I'm sorry.

• 8:13Conan O'Brien?

  You came to us all giddy and you said, I've got some info. It's going to be rocket fuel for the top of the show. We've got someone from Toronto. We don't have anyone from Toronto.

• 8:22Speaker 07

  Well, there's other, there's other places.

• 8:23Speaker 05

  There's other places, there's other places.

• 8:25Speaker 04

  Oh, someone?

• 8:25Speaker 07

  Oh, there is someone outside.

• 8:27Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 8:27Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, that's true. It's High Five McGee. Yeah, okay.

• 8:30Speaker 05

  But that's not all, but that's not all.

• 8:32Speaker 07

  Yes, Mexico.

• 8:33Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 8:36Speaker 07

  Right there.

• 8:37Speaker 04

  Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey.

• 8:38Conan O'Brien?

  Wow.

• 8:40Speaker 07

  And then finally-

• 8:40Conan O'Brien?

  Very reluctantly raised his hand.

• 8:42Speaker 04

  I know.

• 8:43Conan O'Brien?

  You are welcome here. We're happy to have you.

• 8:46Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 8:46Conan O'Brien?

  Hola, como esta?

• 8:47Speaker 07

  Please let this one be real. New Zealand?

• 8:50Conan O'Brien?

  Wow!

• 8:51Speaker 04

  No!

• 8:52Speaker 07

  Just for the show!

• 8:52Speaker 04

  Check that guy out!

• 8:53Conan O'Brien?

  No, no. Can I tell you something? People say, when they see a guy like Blay, they say, "I came all the way just for the show." But whenever I question these people for more than two seconds, it's, "Well, of course, I'm getting a heart replaced while I'm here." "At Cedar Sinai, and I had an extra hour, so were you here just for the show? Be honest." "Are you ..." Yes! I knew it! Whenever someone says "just for the show," it's not true. No one, and, and first of all, I don't blame you, sir, although I'm gonna ask you to leave.

• 9:24Conan O'Brien?

  It's just what happened.

• 9:26Speaker 07

  Blay, you like cable news.

• 9:28Speaker 05

  I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry. I'm really sorry about that.

• 9:31Conan O'Brien?

  You get excited, you get very loud, and you get very excited, and then your, your information is all wrong.

• 9:35Speaker 04

  I've been here.

• 9:36Speaker 07

  Alright.

• 9:37Speaker 04

  I've been, I've been here for two and a half months.

• 9:40Speaker 07

  I've been here for two and a half minutes.

• 9:42Speaker 04

  I've been here for two... I'm not making fun of you. I'm trying to perfect my accent.

• 9:46Conan O'Brien?

  Wait a minute, how is this not making fun of me?

• 9:47Speaker 04

  I'm not making fun of you!

• 9:49Conan O'Brien?

  By the way, I'm just making fun of her. I'm not making fun of you.

• 9:51Speaker 04

  I'm a, I'm a student in accents. This is what I do.

• 9:54Speaker 07

  Is it really?

• 9:55Speaker 04

  Yes, this, this podcast is my real job.

• 9:58Speaker 07

  Could you do Australian, then do New Zealand?

• 10:00Speaker 04

  Okay, so, Australian means like putting all the shrimp in the barbie, park the car in the car park, mate.

• 10:05Speaker 07

  No, that's someone that's at the dentist's.

• 10:07Speaker 04

  Park, park the car in the car park.

• 10:08Conan O'Brien?

  That's someone with a terrible facial wound.

• 10:11Speaker 04

  Park the car in the car park.

• 10:13Conan O'Brien?

  That's Sean F. Kennedy, yeah.

• 10:16Speaker 04

  Park the car in the car park.

• 10:17Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, stop it. You're, you're... You know what I love? You're my assistant. I hired you as my assistant, and now you're out here doing 10 minutes of impressions. I honest to God don't know what's happened. Oh, you want French? Oh, give us your French guy.

• 10:32Speaker 04

  Ooh, the French is very easy!

• 10:34Conan O'Brien?

  That's pretty good.

• 10:35Speaker 04

  French, French is very easy.

• 10:38Conan O'Brien?

  It's unbelievable! I hired her to help with correspondence!

• 10:45Conan O'Brien?

  Get me into the DMV and out?

• 10:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:48Conan O'Brien?

  And no, now you're doing this. Balloon animals. Do you do balloon animals?

• 10:53Conan O'Brien?

  You would, I mean, you gotta-

• 10:54Speaker 04

  Should I do a yes and? Yes and I do balloon animals and I do face painting.

• 10:58Conan O'Brien?

  That's good improv. Should I do yes and? Welcome to the Unconfident Improv Troop.

• 11:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:05Conan O'Brien?

  Welcome to my candy shop. Should I do yes and?

• 11:08Speaker 04

  Yes and?

• 11:09Conan O'Brien?

  Yes and?

• 11:10Speaker 04

  I wasn't making fun of you, I promise. I love, I feel like I'm just like becoming an accent expert, so that's why I was just doing a study.

• 11:17Conan O'Brien?

  And she did nail you, because that's, you know, you did-

• 11:19Speaker 04

  I've been here.

• 11:20Conan O'Brien?

  You went, "I've been here."

• 11:21Speaker 04

  I've been here.

• 11:22Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, well, you're welcome, and I hope that the business that you're doing here is productive. You've been here a long time. And then you, I guess, found this ticket on the street.

• 11:34Conan O'Brien?

  I love upfront, you created this, "People have come from all over the world." Cut to, "Ah, I was in Glendale and getting my car washed next door here in mid-central Hollywood." What do you say? Should we get going? I think it's time. It's very exciting. Let's do this.

• 11:49Speaker 04

  Let's do this.

• 11:50Conan O'Brien?

  All right, we are very excited, this is really happening. My guests today are absolute legends of rock and roll and known as one of England's loudest bands. Their new documentary, Spinal Tap 2: The End Continues, such a great title, is in theaters September 12th. I am very honored that they are here today. These gentlemen changed my life, I think they changed many the lives of people here.

• 12:12Speaker 04

  Yes, definitely.

• 12:12Conan O'Brien?

  Please welcome filmmaker Marty De Burge and members of Spinal Tap Nigel Tufnel, Derek Smalls, and David St. Hubbs.

• 12:24Speaker 08

  Thank you. Hello. We are Spinal Tap. Yep. And we feel, what do we feel? About what? About-

• 12:33Speaker 08

  About being Conan O'Brien's friend. Mixed, right? So mixed. Very mixed. Yeah, mixed. Marty, mixed?

• 12:42Speaker 06

  Well, I, I'm very happy to be Conan's friend.

• 12:45Speaker 08

  Well, that's where the mix comes in.

• 12:47Speaker 06

  I'd like anybody to be my friend, and if I can be yours-

• 12:50Conan O'Brien?

  It's not a two-way street.

• 12:51Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 12:52Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I hate to break it to you.

• 12:53Speaker 06

  It's not even a street.

• 12:54Speaker 08

  You look so much smarter with the glasses on.

• 12:55Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, thank you, you like the glasses, huh? Isn't that nice?

• 12:57Speaker 08

  It's shorter, too, while you're sitting down.

• 13:01Conan O'Brien?

  I'm gonna go with mixed. You feel mixed? Mixed. Because we don't know what's gonna happen today.

• 13:05Speaker 08

  There were more than one of us.

• 13:06Conan O'Brien?

  It's always happening.

• 13:07Speaker 08

  We're all the same and yet we're all completely different.

• 13:09Conan O'Brien?

  Let me begin by telling you it's an honor to have you here. It really is. And I made this very clear to my audience before you came out. I saw your original film, This is Spinal Tap.

• 13:20Speaker 06

  Marty's original film.

• 13:22Conan O'Brien?

  The documentary made by the great Murray De Burge in 1984, and it changed my life. I was not aware of your band.

• 13:28Speaker 06

  In what way did it change your life?

• 13:30Conan O'Brien?

  For the worse. It changed it for the worse. Yeah, I went into a long depression.

• 13:35Speaker 06

  Your life must have been an open wound before this film.

• 13:36Speaker 09

  Did it make you taller?

• 13:37Conan O'Brien?

  I came out during second, I think the second Obama administration, I recovered myself. But a deep depression, but it really did in so many ways, it introduced me to my, to your work that I was not aware of. I hate to say that, but I really wasn't. I just missed.

• 13:53Speaker 08

  No, no.

• 13:54Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 13:55Speaker 06

  But you said it.

• 13:56Conan O'Brien?

  What's that?

• 13:56Speaker 06

  But you said it.

• 13:57Conan O'Brien?

  I know, I did say it, and it was wrong. It was wrong to say it, and I apologize. I just was unaware. I won't use the term niche, but somehow your oeuvre had escaped me. And then Marty did this incredible thing. He brought you to my attention. And Marty, this has been 41 years since the original film.

• 14:17Speaker 06

  And I must say that this is the first time that I've ever been allowed to be on a stage with these gentlemen who I've admired for so many years. I was always a big fan. And I've never been allowed to be on the stage with them.

• 14:35Conan O'Brien?

  You have it on thin ice right now.

• 14:37Speaker 09

  You keep that up, and it'll be the last time.

• 14:39Speaker 06

  Uh-oh.

• 14:41Conan O'Brien?

  It doesn't feel like it's going well so far, but I think you will acquit yourself well, Marty. Marty, I hate to bring this up, but one of the reasons that you got involved in this project is that you have struggled since you made the original, This is Spinal Tap in 1984.

• 14:57Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 14:58Conan O'Brien?

  You have struggled greatly. You have had difficulty finding employment.

• 15:04Speaker 06

  Well, I was hoping that when I made this as Spinal Tap, which by the way... The members of the band were not too thrilled when they saw it. They called it a hatchet job. And they were not happy with how they were portrayed. I thought it was a loving portrayal, but I guess they were, they felt differently. But I was hoping that it would, you know, basically boost my career, give me an opportunity to do like a Hollywood feature, which I was able, I finally was able to do. They did a sequel to a very important feature film that won an Academy Award, it was called Kramer vs. Kramer with Meryl Streep and Dustin Hoffman.

• 15:48Speaker 06

  And I did the sequel, which was Kramer vs. Kramer vs. Godzilla. And it didn't do as well as I had hoped.

• 15:57Conan O'Brien?

  High concept.

• 15:59Speaker 06

  And it sent me into a tailspin and I left the business for a while and I went to, I went to a retreat. A retreat, which was, the guru there was a gentleman by the name of Baba Ramdas Boat. And I was trying to find myself and one morning I was drinking my spirulina smoothie and I noticed in Deadline Hollywood that they were thinking of getting back, that there was gonna be another concert.

• 16:33Speaker 08

  We were forced into it and there was, there was a, there was a contract that was left dangling on the death of Ian Faye.

• 16:40Conan O'Brien?

  This was not born of inspiration, I hate to say as many reunions are. That you were contractually forced to get back together again, as is made clear in the new documentary.

• 16:49Speaker 06

  Induced.

• 16:50Conan O'Brien?

  Induced. You were induced. It was an induced pregnancy.

• 16:54Speaker 08

  It was an induction, yes.

• 16:55Conan O'Brien?

  It was an induction. And, and I'm glad that you did get back together. You, you brought so much joy to hundreds of people.

• 17:04Speaker 08

  It gave us an opportunity. It did give us an opportunity to get back together again. And break up again, and then get back together again. And then we broke up once more since then, and now here we are.

• 17:16Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 17:17Speaker 08

  So, third time, or the ninth time.

• 17:19Speaker 10

  Do we change seats at any point?

• 17:20Conan O'Brien?

  No.

• 17:22Speaker 08

  You're actually fine then.

• 17:23Conan O'Brien?

  We've talked about that format. The, it's called a...

• 17:27Speaker 10

  I wouldn't call it a format exactly, it's more like just seats.

• 17:30Speaker 08

  Three mat.

• 17:30Conan O'Brien?

  Okay. Trying to put a nice gloss on what you had said.

• 17:34Speaker 10

  Okay.

• 17:35Conan O'Brien?

  I, I wanted to ask you something, Nigel. You, I was very surprised when I saw the documentary, what you've been up to. You own a shop?

• 17:44Speaker 10

  I do, yes, a cheese shop.

• 17:46Conan O'Brien?

  Well, not just cheese.

• 17:47Speaker 10

  Not just cheese, no, cheese and guitars.

• 17:51Conan O'Brien?

  And it's fascinating, you see this in the film. Someone comes in and I thought you could buy cheese or buy guitars, but you can trade cheese for guitars.

• 18:00Speaker 10

  Yes.

• 18:00Conan O'Brien?

  Or trade guitars for cheese.

• 18:03Speaker 10

  Yes. It's a barter system, like they had back in prehistoric times. You know, when there were dinosaurs, people would say...

• 18:11Speaker 08

  No.

• 18:12Conan O'Brien?

  No.

• 18:14Speaker 08

  Did dinosaurs have no barter?

• 18:16Conan O'Brien?

  Dinosaurs and men did not coexist.

• 18:18Speaker 10

  Kind of things, they would trade things. So, I say, someone comes in with a nice brie. And I'll say, maybe a flying V for the brie.

• 18:27Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 18:29Speaker 10

  But we'll have to see. I've got to weigh it, literally, and then play the guitar and vice versa as well. Yeah.

• 18:37Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I, I saw that you were doing that business and I thought... Sometimes you see a business and you think, why didn't anyone else think of this? I didn't have that thought.

• 18:45Speaker 10

  Interesting, yeah. No, it's very, it's perfect for me, because I like...

• 18:48Speaker 08

  Have you turned a profit yet?

• 18:51Speaker 10

  In what sense?

• 18:53Speaker 08

  In monetary, in a barter sense.

• 18:57Speaker 08

  No, listen, I admire him, but he lives in a world of his own.

• 19:01Conan O'Brien?

  Um, David, what have you been up to? Bring us up to date, because I don't want to spoil, and don't do too many spoilers, but it is revealed in the documentary, you've been living in Morro Bay.

• 19:10Speaker 08

  Morro Bay, California. Anyone here from Morro Bay? No, never, really?

• 19:15Conan O'Brien?

  Toronto, people often do that, too.

• 19:18Speaker 08

  Oh, they're all Toronto, yeah, clearly, except for the one New Zealander. That's right. Yeah. Uh, yeah, well, I've been staying busy, you know, I, I, um, I'm a bit of a, a bit of a star in Morro Bay. Not a lot of, uh, uh, famous people there. They're all retired, uh, English musicians, all the famous ones, and I happen to be number six or seven. But, um, I'm, I'm having a really nice, I love it, I love, I'm a total Californian now. And I, I play a little bit of music on the side.

• 19:51Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, tell us about your music career, because you've managed to stay in the audio business, but in a way that surprised me.

• 19:57Speaker 08

  Well, listen, I, I, I've got fairly proficient on the keyboards, and of course, all you need is about four or five keys and, and a computer, you know, and just pluck it out like this. And I do a lot of, uh, scores for, uh, podcasts, crime podcasts.

• 20:13Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 20:14Speaker 08

  And it's, it's very rewarding.

• 20:17Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, I was, uh, you also record hold music, is that correct?

• 20:22Speaker 08

  Yes, oh, yeah, yeah. The music you get when you call up, that's not just pulled out of the, the sky, you know, someone has to do that. And I'm able to express sort of my, my inner middle of the road, if you will, it's not, it's not hard rock, it's not quite Dixieland, it's somewhere in between. What's in between hard rock and Dixieland?

• 20:43Speaker 06

  I don't know, but you did win an award for that music.

• 20:45Speaker 08

  I won a Holdi, I did, yeah. I did. Very proud, very proud.

• 20:53Speaker 06

  And also, I, I, you, you, I, I know maybe you don't wanna, you know, you know, put a light on it, but you do still play with a band, I, I noticed.

• 21:03Speaker 08

  There's a bunch of, of blokes I get together with, yeah, yeah, and we, I, I really got heavy into mariachi music. And I've been writing tunes, uh, actually, some of them are traditional tunes, but I've been translating harder, more demonic lyrics into the, into Spanish.

• 21:22Speaker 06

  Into mariachi.

• 21:23Speaker 08

  With the help of Maria, Maria's my live-in chef, and, uh, she helps me with the lyrics, and it's really fun, it's lovely.

• 21:29Conan O'Brien?

  Again, something I, uh, when I saw it, I thought, this is not something I'd have thought of, and, or if I had thought of, I might have dismissed it immediately, but incredible, and it's incredible.

• 21:39Speaker 08

  It feels good under, from the inside, put it that way.

• 21:42Conan O'Brien?

  Um, Derek, uh, you-

• 21:44Speaker 09

  You're pointing at me now.

• 21:45Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 21:45Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 21:46Speaker 08

  Passed me to you, yes.

• 21:48Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 21:48Speaker 06

  He also said your name, so.

• 21:50Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I thought that-

• 21:52Speaker 09

  Woke, woke me right up.

• 21:53Conan O'Brien?

  I thought, I thought the name was, yeah, yeah, the main indicator, not the pointing.

• 21:58Speaker 09

  But that's a bonus.

• 21:59Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, you get both, you get the pointing and the name, Derek. Uh, you've confounded me instantly. Uh, you run a shop that sells, I, I, glue.

• 22:09Speaker 09

  No, it's not a shop, there's no profit.

• 22:14Speaker 09

  It is the, it is a-

• 22:15Conan O'Brien?

  So you're in the same business as the cheese and guitar.

• 22:18Speaker 09

  No, but-

• 22:19Conan O'Brien?

  I kinda zinged you there, sorry, man.

• 22:21Speaker 08

  No, it's, it's okay, but here's, here's a different situation.

• 22:24Speaker 09

  Yeah, mine's deliberate.

• 22:25Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 22:30Speaker 09

  People would say to me over the years, you know, and, and, I'm, not just me, but bass players generally, well, you guys are kind of the glue, you know, that hold the band together because these other guys are, you know, up there, and, uh-

• 22:44Speaker 08

  Unglued.

• 22:45Speaker 09

  Unglued.

• 22:45Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 22:47Speaker 09

  And one day I just thought, glue.

• 22:52Speaker 09

  You don't think about glue all that often.

• 22:55Conan O'Brien?

  Never. I hardly ever think about it.

• 22:58Speaker 09

  Well, I did. And I became, I guess you'd say fixated. Well, you wouldn't, but I'd say fixated.

• 23:05Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 23:06Speaker 09

  And I've opened a museum of glue.

• 23:09Conan O'Brien?

  It's a museum, that's right. Oh, some museums are for profit, so I think I redeemed myself there. Um, but we should move on. I think I'm getting into a little bit of a conversational cul-de-sac, if you will. Yes? No, just wondering why you're here. Yeah.

• 23:28Speaker 06

  Good question.

• 23:29Conan O'Brien?

  I'm feeling that way myself. Gentlemen, um, I, it has to sting that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has refused to induct you. You have such a body of work. There's a lot of it of what you do. Uh, people can debate the quality, but there's a lot of it. There's a tremendous amount of what you did. And you, you have to admit, Marty, it's, it's, it's a shock. And the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame did not just pass on them. They sort of stepped outside their lane a little bit.

• 23:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, I think they said, they, they, you know, they made a letter, they said, and the letter came back, uh, "Go fuck yourself."

• 24:07Conan O'Brien?

  So, unusual.

• 24:08Speaker 06

  It was a little harsh.

• 24:10Conan O'Brien?

  That's not Hall of Fame language.

• 24:12Speaker 06

  No, no, no.

• 24:13Conan O'Brien?

  No, it's just terrible, you know, it was, uh, and they rarely send a letter like that. They have, Milli Vanilli, I think, out one, but... Milli Vanilli, yeah. They got two. They got two. Yeah.

• 24:24Speaker 06

  Willie and Vanilli.

• 24:25Conan O'Brien?

  Yes. Right.

• 24:27Speaker 09

  But here's the irony.

• 24:28Conan O'Brien?

  Are you pointing at me?

• 24:28Speaker 09

  I am pointing at you.

• 24:30Conan O'Brien?

  Cause I'm pointing right back at you.

• 24:31Speaker 09

  I didn't say your name.

• 24:32Conan O'Brien?

  You don't know my name?

• 24:33Speaker 09

  I, I do.

• 24:35Conan O'Brien?

  It's that Spider-Man meme.

• 24:41Conan O'Brien?

  A bit frightening to be in the middle of it.

• 24:44Speaker 09

  The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will not admit us, but in the gift shop, they sell "Hello Cleveland" t-shirts.

• 24:51Conan O'Brien?

  It's true, yeah. It's not, it's not right. It's not right. And you should, I hope you're getting a taste of that. No. You're not getting a taste? No.

• 24:59Speaker 09

  Well, I'm getting a taste, but that's a different thing.

• 25:02Conan O'Brien?

  It tastes like burnt toast. That's a stroke symptom. I just want you to know.

• 25:07Speaker 09

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 25:08Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, you didn't like where I went? You're a doctor, I suppose. Uh, well, uh, I, I watched enough television, yeah. I feel like I can diagnose anyone. Um...

• 25:17Speaker 10

  Where do they hide the cameras? I'm a little bit confused.

• 25:21Speaker 08

  They're all filming.

• 25:22Conan O'Brien?

  That's a camera right there.

• 25:23Speaker 10

  Each person must have one.

• 25:24Speaker 08

  Phones up.

• 25:25Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, there's one right there.

• 25:27Speaker 08

  Especially the New Zealander.

• 25:29Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 25:30Speaker 08

  Can't trust them.

• 25:31Speaker 10

  Where in New Zealand are you from? I'm from Auckland.

• 25:34Speaker 08

  Of course.

• 25:35Speaker 10

  Auckland, really? I was there, yeah.

• 25:36Speaker 08

  Yeah, that's a lovely town.

• 25:38Conan O'Brien?

  Have you guys played Auckland?

• 25:39Speaker 10

  Yeah, we did a thing there. I can't remember what it was, though.

• 25:43Conan O'Brien?

  These are terrific stories.

• 25:45Speaker 10

  No, no, no, no, I don't want to embarrass you. Can you stand up? Not literally, but can you... Where are you?

• 25:52Speaker 08

  There we are.

• 25:54Speaker 10

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 25:54Speaker 08

  The bearded bloke.

• 25:55Conan O'Brien?

  This is another stroke symptom.

• 25:56Speaker 10

  I didn't meet you there, no.

• 26:01Speaker 10

  You look familiar from not meeting you there.

• 26:04Conan O'Brien?

  Gentlemen, let's address a very dark subject. You've lost countless drummers. How many, Marty, has it been?

• 26:12Speaker 06

  Well, according to the band, I think it's 12.

• 26:15Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 26:15Speaker 06

  I think it's 12.

• 26:16Speaker 08

  An even dozen.

• 26:17Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, an even dozen. And this latest film, and I'm not going to give anything away, but it begins with you looking for a new drummer.

• 26:27Speaker 08

  Right, yeah.

• 26:28Conan O'Brien?

  Why not just use a drum machine at this point?

• 26:31Speaker 08

  We tried that, it died.

• 26:34Speaker 10

  Lugged it in.

• 26:36Speaker 08

  That's true.

• 26:37Speaker 10

  Go back 10 bars into the tune, and then it went, "Nope, I'm out."

• 26:40Speaker 08

  Fizzled.

• 26:43Speaker 10

  Yeah.

• 26:44Speaker 08

  Just left this burn mark on the desk.

• 26:46Conan O'Brien?

  Incredible, all right, well...

• 26:48Speaker 06

  I don't think it's giving anything away from the film, but if you want, what happened to the last drummer that you had? Skippy Scuffleton.

• 26:57Speaker 08

  Oh, my God, poor kid. Yeah, Skippy Scuffleton, or Scuffy Skipleton, or Skiffy Scuffleton. We never could get it straight. He had some entirely different name that he got paid through. But he had a terrible allergy to something. I thought it was the little berries inside the maracas that make the seeds. I think he was allergic because he'd never used them before, and he played about half the day, and then he said, "I'm feeling funny." He started sneezing, and he never stopped, until it all stopped. So it was pretty sad. He sneezed himself.

• 27:32Conan O'Brien?

  Is that the actual coroner's report? That he sneezes?

• 27:34Speaker 10

  No, there's a Latin term for that. It's a real thing.

• 27:38Speaker 08

  And he latins in. No. What's the Latin term for sneezing yourself to death?

• 27:44Speaker 10

  I don't know, but there is one, because it's a medical thing.

• 27:47Speaker 08

  Well, you know there's a German one.

• 27:48Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 27:49Speaker 08

  Yeah, Gesundheit.

• 27:50Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, there you go. Um, I, uh, I was, I mean, so much, so much to catch up on with you guys, because again, it's been, I know you've had your reunions, uh, but 41 years since the last film.

• 28:03Speaker 10

  Yeah. Can I ask you, why you keep putting on and taking off your glasses?

• 28:08Conan O'Brien?

  I like to create different looks throughout the podcast.

• 28:11Speaker 08

  Two.

• 28:12Speaker 10

  Yes.

• 28:13Speaker 08

  Two looks.

• 28:13Conan O'Brien?

  I found it best, especially in an audio medium.

• 28:18Speaker 10

  Yes.

• 28:18Conan O'Brien?

  In an audio medium, it's good to have two looks as opposed to one.

• 28:22Speaker 10

  No, I'm quite impressed.

• 28:23Conan O'Brien?

  And you know, can I, uh, just, you asked.

• 28:26Speaker 10

  Have you ever thought of a hat?

• 28:27Conan O'Brien?

  I have thought of a hat, but that would obscure the hair, which is the trademark. I mean, really think about it.

• 28:32Speaker 08

  Or contact lenses. Imagine taking out your contact lenses to make a point.

• 28:36Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Listen here, Senator.

• 28:40Conan O'Brien?

  That would be tough, yeah. Very difficult.

• 28:42Speaker 08

  How dare you, sir.

• 28:44Conan O'Brien?

  I am able to do this in an interview, is whip them off.

• 28:48Speaker 08

  Fantastic.

• 28:48Conan O'Brien?

  And it was not incredible?

• 28:49Speaker 10

  I wasn't being critical.

• 28:51Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, it came across as critical.

• 28:52Speaker 10

  Oh, look, you're so sensitive. That's why people like you, though.

• 28:56Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 28:56Speaker 10

  No, it's true. It's true.

• 28:58Conan O'Brien?

  You, um, I have to ask you, because I'm a bit of a guitar enthusiast myself.

• 29:01Speaker 10

  Who are you talking to now?

• 29:02Conan O'Brien?

  I'm pointing to you.

• 29:03Speaker 10

  Okay.

• 29:04Speaker 08

  Everyone pointed, Nigel.

• 29:05Conan O'Brien?

  I've noticed, uh, that, uh, Nigel, you have no peripheral vision. None. You couldn't see a camera that's right there, and you have no idea where I am right now.

• 29:14Speaker 10

  Well, I do. I could pinpoint it if you gave me a compass.

• 29:21Conan O'Brien?

  Has it hurt you in rock and roll to have no peripheral vision?

• 29:24Speaker 08

  No.

• 29:25Speaker 10

  No, I, I do have. I can see this, I can see this, so I do. I was just being cheeky.

• 29:30Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, got it.

• 29:31Speaker 10

  What was your question?

• 29:32Conan O'Brien?

  I don't remember.

• 29:32Speaker 10

  No.

• 29:34Conan O'Brien?

  You have a guitar that I absolutely adore. It's a guitar that's beautiful. It has the Union Jack on it. But if you turn the guitar over, and this is featured in the film.

• 29:44Speaker 10

  Well, it's a surprise, yeah.

• 29:46Conan O'Brien?

  I don't want to give it away.

• 29:47Speaker 10

  Well, you have, but go ahead.

• 29:48Conan O'Brien?

  I haven't said what it is. There's a secret compartment in the guitar. I adore this guitar. And it's got a... You have to see the film to see this guitar. It's wonderful.

• 29:59Speaker 10

  Yes.

• 29:59Conan O'Brien?

  Is that available for purchase? Could I buy one? Or is there only one, and is it yours?

• 30:03Speaker 10

  They made one.

• 30:05Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 30:05Speaker 10

  It's just mine.

• 30:07Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 30:07Speaker 10

  I'm getting the feeling you want me to give it to you, though.

• 30:12Conan O'Brien?

  I'm glad you brought that up.

• 30:13Speaker 10

  Nice it done, yeah.

• 30:14Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 30:14Speaker 10

  It's a wonderful guitar, yeah. I have many, many guitars, and that's one of the really good ones, yeah.

• 30:20Speaker 08

  Now, you did invent that, though. You did.

• 30:22Speaker 10

  I did, yeah. I came up with the idea for it, and they built it for me.

• 30:25Speaker 08

  Because some of your inventions are great, and others are not.

• 30:29Speaker 10

  I have other inventions, yes, which have not been as successful.

• 30:32Speaker 08

  No.

• 30:33Conan O'Brien?

  Would you care to elaborate?

• 30:34Speaker 08

  Finger bowls for dogs.

• 30:35Speaker 10

  Yeah.

• 30:36Speaker 08

  That was never gonna happen.

• 30:37Speaker 10

  Well, I had this folding wine glass, you see.

• 30:40Speaker 08

  That's true, yeah.

• 30:40Speaker 10

  Because I thought, if you're going on a picnic, and you don't want to carry things, you know, you want to just throw everything in. The glass folded in on four sides.

• 30:52Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 30:52Speaker 10

  So it had hinges on all the sides.

• 30:56Conan O'Brien?

  Were they completely waterproof?

• 30:58Speaker 10

  No. So what would happen is...

• 31:00Speaker 08

  Or wine proof.

• 31:01Speaker 10

  If you're pouring, let's say, a Beaujolais, whatever. It doesn't really matter. It could be a Meadoc or whatever, you know. Eighty-one. It could be a... Whatever it is, Chateau Nifte Pau. It could be any number of things.

• 31:13Speaker 08

  Just two more, just two more, please.

• 31:14Conan O'Brien?

  Just a few more, yeah.

• 31:15Speaker 10

  And you pour it in, and it just would leak out the bottom.

• 31:18Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 31:19Speaker 10

  So by the time you raise it to your lips, your crotch was soaked in wine.

• 31:24Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 31:26Speaker 10

  That was that one.

• 31:29Conan O'Brien?

  You know, Marty, I want to bring you back in because there were some moments in the documentary, and I don't care if I'm giving anything away in the new one, but I was stunned. At one point, the lads, I'll call you the lads.

• 31:42Speaker 09

  Because we're so old.

• 31:44Conan O'Brien?

  You all served bravely in the Korean War. I want to say, settle down, I want to say, I was stunned when Sir Paul McCartney enters the rehearsal space and starts jamming with them. It was, I mean, even as a viewer, as someone who's met McCartney myself countless times, probably more than you guys have, and spent a lot of quality time with him. I was, I mean, he's on my speed dial, we talk three times a day. But my point is, it was such a stunning moment, and I was, he is the royalty of rock. He enters the room, and I'm going to say this right now, David, I didn't think you were, I didn't think you were kind to him initially, you seemed a little...

• 32:27Speaker 08

  Well, you know, that's a two-way street. I mean, we all have this picture of Paul, and he's the cute Beatle and all that. You know, let's not go nuts here, I mean, he's just a person, you know? And he comes in, and he's just throwing his weight around. I'm not going to tell you what it is, it was difficult for me. Because I'm a creative person, he's a creative person, but that doesn't mean we're going to be on the same page.

• 32:52Speaker 09

  We were stunned, to tell you the truth, when he came into the room. And as he went through his, whatever he was doing, it struck me, odd, that he never mentioned your name.

• 33:06Speaker 08

  I know, you'd think.

• 33:09Conan O'Brien?

  He never brought up Conan O'Brien one time?

• 33:11Speaker 08

  No, no.

• 33:13Conan O'Brien?

  That's odd, I'll talk about that with Paul when I see you. We usually meet for flan in West Hollywood around this time of day.

• 33:19Speaker 09

  He didn't mention any O'Brien.

• 33:21Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 33:21Speaker 08

  I have a fear of flan.

• 33:23Conan O'Brien?

  Really? Okay.

• 33:25Conan O'Brien?

  That will be expunged from the record.

• 33:26Speaker 08

  Don't trust it.

• 33:27Conan O'Brien?

  You will not. That will be edited out. The fear of fun. We won't have wordplay on this podcast.

• 33:31Speaker 08

  It's better if people don't know it.

• 33:33Conan O'Brien?

  But Marty, you were there when this amazing meeting of the rock gods happened, and you knew to keep the cameras rolling.

• 33:41Speaker 06

  Well, of course.

• 33:42Conan O'Brien?

  And then, were you at all stunned that David was... Paul offered one hint for a bridge on the song, and then David was less than gracious to Sir Paul McCartney? How did you feel about that moment?

• 33:55Speaker 06

  Well, you know, as... I... See, I put David on the same level as Paul McCartney. That's very sweet. To me... Oh.

• 34:09Speaker 06

  And from one musician, I don't take sides on this, and from one musician to another, he was basically denigrating what David was putting forth. Now, in all fairness, so was Nigel, and so was Derek. They both hated what he was doing. So, it was kind of three against one, but I mean, I... But that's the great flaw in a democracy, isn't it?

• 34:33Conan O'Brien?

  What?

• 34:36Speaker 08

  I think I've jumped ahead. But trust me, you'll catch up.

• 34:41Conan O'Brien?

  And Nigel, Sir Elton John, joining you guys, and revealing that he's a fan and has been a fan?

• 34:50Speaker 10

  Yes. Well, you know, it works both ways, as he says. He's a very sensitive chap, you know? I've known him since we were kids. He's very sensitive. So, the thing with Sir Paul, I wasn't surprised at that because he reacts like that sometimes. With Sir Elton, two Sirs, amazing, you know? It was just, he was so open to playing with us. It was great. It was really fantastic, I thought. Yeah. Two Sirs, no madam.

• 35:18Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 35:19Speaker 06

  Nice.

• 35:20Conan O'Brien?

  Very nice. Again, I'm gonna end all wordplay now. There'll be no more wordplay.

• 35:26Speaker 06

  Well, you're done.

• 35:27Conan O'Brien?

  Um, this, I think there's gonna be one more before we go. Um, I won't say again, I don't wanna spoil anything. Uh, I hope you've mended fences, uh, with Elton.

• 35:37Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, oh, no, no, yeah, it's difficult.

• 35:39Conan O'Brien?

  Some things happen, and you're gonna have to see this for yourself.

• 35:42Speaker 06

  You know, I meant to ask you that, you know, afterwards. Did, did they ever sue, were there, was there any lawsuits?

• 35:49Speaker 10

  No, I didn't hear anything.

• 35:51Conan O'Brien?

  No.

• 35:52Speaker 10

  Wouldn't he have sued you as well?

• 35:54Speaker 06

  Uh, probably, yeah.

• 35:56Conan O'Brien?

  Well, I've got news for you. Uh, this is, as of an hour ago, you've all been served.

• 36:00Speaker 06

  Hmm.

• 36:01Conan O'Brien?

  You are being sued.

• 36:02Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 36:03Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, and it's a figure that's shocking.

• 36:05Speaker 10

  Well, it won't matter much, will it?

• 36:08Speaker 10

  Why's that?

• 36:09Conan O'Brien?

  What was that?

• 36:10Speaker 10

  What are they gonna take?

• 36:12Conan O'Brien?

  Well, apparently, yeah, no. Sir Elton John is taking possession of your cheese and guitar shop. As I've been told.

• 36:19Speaker 10

  Don't think so.

• 36:19Speaker 06

  I don't think so.

• 36:20Speaker 10

  The people in the village where I live, with my girlfriend, um...

• 36:26Speaker 06

  How come you put quotes around the girlfriend?

• 36:28Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, why did you put quotes around girlfriend?

• 36:30Speaker 10

  That's for me to know, isn't it?

• 36:33Speaker 06

  She's great.

• 36:34Speaker 10

  Nicely done.

• 36:35Speaker 06

  She's exactly what you've needed all along.

• 36:37Speaker 10

  Yes.

• 36:38Speaker 06

  Really, it's true. She's a lovely girl.

• 36:40Speaker 10

  No, but it's a cheese shop, the people in the village love it. They wouldn't allow that to be taken away, boarded up, anything.

• 36:46Conan O'Brien?

  Well, I have news for you. They're, the town loves Elton John, and they're thrilled that he's taking over.

• 36:51Speaker 10

  Well, you've never been to the town, so you don't know that, you're just...

• 36:54Conan O'Brien?

  Reading what I know, I read the local...

• 36:56Speaker 10

  Reading what you don't know is what you're doing.

• 36:58Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, all right, well, if we're gonna, this is getting contentious, and I'm uncomfortable, and I feel a little bit like Paul McCartney, sitting in with Spinal Tap. Unwelcome. Um, gentlemen, uh, I, there's so many more questions I have for you. One is, uh, you two fellows grew up together in Squatney, I believe, that's right?

• 37:16Speaker 10

  Squatney, yeah, East End of London, yeah.

• 37:19Conan O'Brien?

  I've never heard of Squatney.

• 37:20Speaker 10

  Well, it's gone, it's, it's, it's gone now.

• 37:22Conan O'Brien?

  How could it be gone? It's a place on the map.

• 37:25Speaker 10

  Because most of it's been replaced by a Tesco. Oh, okay. It's a huge supermarket change. Every city has areas that change or they're renamed. You know this. Yes, but when you said it was gone, I just. Well, it's gone in the city. It's not, we can go to the street where we were, but it's not called that anymore. They incorporate other things and then they have a new name or whatever they think.

• 37:44Speaker 08

  The pub that we used to go to, the Queen's Lips.

• 37:47Speaker 10

  Yeah.

• 37:47Speaker 08

  Not that. It's gone. Now it's an apple store.

• 37:50Speaker 10

  Yeah, it's just.

• 37:51Speaker 08

  Progress of sorts.

• 37:52Speaker 10

  It was a working class neighborhood then.

• 37:54Speaker 08

  Yeah, it was lovely.

• 37:55Conan O'Brien?

  Has there any, if you go to Liverpool, you will see little statues of the Beatles everywhere you go. Um, is it like that if you go to Squatney? I mean, you are, you are heroes in Squatney. Is there any memorial? And, and Marty, do you think there should be in Squatney?

• 38:10Speaker 06

  Well, of course there should be, but as they say, they've changed this place so much. I don't know that the young people of today would even know those, what those statues represented.

• 38:21Speaker 10

  Yeah, I don't think I would know.

• 38:24Conan O'Brien?

  If you saw a statue to yourself, you wouldn't recognize that statue.

• 38:27Speaker 08

  Have you ever seen the statue of Lucille Ball in your hometown?

• 38:31Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, yes, I have.

• 38:31Speaker 08

  You've seen that, right?

• 38:32Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 38:32Speaker 08

  We don't want that.

• 38:35Speaker 06

  Well, they wouldn't put a statue of Lucille Ball there. They'd put a statue of you guys.

• 38:40Speaker 08

  They'd put a statue of Lucille Ball before they'd put one of us.

• 38:43Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I think that's a fair point.

• 38:45Speaker 10

  Yeah.

• 38:45Conan O'Brien?

  Derek.

• 38:46Speaker 09

  Yes.

• 38:47Conan O'Brien?

  This, what a journey for you to go from being this iconic rock star to having a glue museum, a non-for-profit glue museum. And when you got the call that this was happening, you were getting back together with the band. Explain your emotional roller coaster.

• 39:05Speaker 09

  No, there's so much a roller coaster as a merry-go-round.

• 39:10Conan O'Brien?

  So still a wheel, but turning in a different dimension.

• 39:12Speaker 09

  In a horizontal direction as opposed to a vertical direction.

• 39:15Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, all right. Okay, that's a good differentiation too.

• 39:19Speaker 09

  Um, you know, I, I didn't just have the glue museum. I was doing some telly work and commercials and adverts, things like that.

• 39:27Speaker 06

  But you also played with the Symphony Orchestra.

• 39:29Speaker 09

  I did some of that, yeah, but I was promoting a crypto product called Bruegel Coin.

• 39:37Conan O'Brien?

  Bruegel Coin, yeah.

• 39:39Speaker 09

  Um, but I was happy to join the lads.

• 39:43Speaker 08

  Um, in theory.

• 39:44Speaker 09

  In theory, yeah. It's, it's been bumpy since, but.

• 39:50Speaker 10

  It's been a long time. It's 15 years since we spoke.

• 39:52Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 39:53Speaker 10

  In between.

• 39:54Speaker 09

  But I kind of like the bumps.

• 39:56Speaker 10

  What was that noise?

• 39:57Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, please, they're doing other podcasts, very popular ones all around us.

• 40:01Speaker 10

  Yeah.

• 40:01Conan O'Brien?

  Um, huge, huge rock bands. Um. Gentlemen, you, uh, it, the mind boggles at the journeys that you have taken in rock and roll.

• 40:13Speaker 10

  Imagine that.

• 40:13Conan O'Brien?

  Financially, how are you doing?

• 40:16Speaker 08

  Oh, I get by, you know, I, uh, my, uh, my, my friend, uh, Maria, I mentioned her before, my, my Libyan chef. Uh, and, uh, significant other.

• 40:28Speaker 08

  She, she does marvelously well on the catering circuit in the central coast.

• 40:34Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 40:35Speaker 08

  And, uh, so I don't have to worry about a thing, really. I do all these other musical things, they, they pay some of the rent and all this, and like I say, I enjoy a certain bit of stardom.

• 40:44Speaker 06

  Is Maria new to you? Because she wasn't there when I first visited you.

• 40:48Speaker 08

  Oh, on and off, on and off for six or seven years, yeah.

• 40:51Speaker 06

  Ah.

• 40:52Speaker 08

  Yeah, you, you might meet her one day.

• 40:53Speaker 10

  First I'm hearing about it, right?

• 40:55Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 40:55Speaker 10

  No, I think financially, you know, I, I, the, the shop seriously does get by, the cheese shop, we do make enough. We have a small house just outside the village and, uh, I'll get some residuals, as you'd call them here. Royalties and things for music that we do, so I still get, and I play in a pub, I'm playing in a pub with a group, which is, uh, that doesn't pay at all, actually.

• 41:20Conan O'Brien?

  Well, I guess the point I'm making, and I, I, I don't want to tread on a sensitive area or be in any way, um, cruel or rude. Um, but I'm just gonna go for this. Uh, you guys are in an iconic rock band. If you look at other rock bands from your era, I mean, Rolling Stones, uh, Beatles, I mean, anyone involved in those groups is fantastically rich. We're talking about billionaires.

• 41:42Speaker 08

  Some, some cases, yeah.

• 41:44Conan O'Brien?

  Some cases.

• 41:45Speaker 10

  Paul Revere and the Raiders?

• 41:47Conan O'Brien?

  Huge.

• 41:47Speaker 10

  Rolling in it?

• 41:48Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 41:48Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, no.

• 41:49Speaker 08

  No, no, no.

• 41:50Conan O'Brien?

  Excuse me.

• 41:50Speaker 08

  There are lots of people that didn't make a lot of money, lots of people. Most people didn't make a lot of money. The famous ones, the ones you mentioned, obviously did, but there are lots and lots of people, hundreds of bands who played that were famous for a minute or two, nothing, they have nothing. Freddie and the Dreamers, for example.

• 42:09Conan O'Brien?

  Again, I have the facts on my fingertips. Freddie and the Dreamers are in the Forbes 500 last year.

• 42:14Speaker 09

  No, you don't.

• 42:15Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, hugely, hugely, hugely successful.

• 42:18Speaker 08

  Can't make fun of Freddie and the Dreamers anymore.

• 42:20Speaker 09

  No.

• 42:20Speaker 08

  Or Jerry and the Pace Bankers.

• 42:22Speaker 09

  I have to be, I have to be honest with you. That's one of the reasons I rejoined the band, was financial difficulties.

• 42:29Conan O'Brien?

  Thank you for being honest.

• 42:30Speaker 09

  Thank you for noticing it.

• 42:31Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 42:36Speaker 09

  I had been, as I told you, promoting this cryptocurrency.

• 42:40Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, yes.

• 42:42Speaker 09

  And they paid me in cryptocurrency.

• 42:44Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 42:45Speaker 09

  When they went under, I went under.

• 42:46Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, yeah. So you have less than nothing.

• 42:48Speaker 09

  Yeah, I'm working my way back to nothing.

• 42:51Speaker 06

  You, you also, Derek, I, I remember, we didn't talk about it, but I think you also tried to start an amusement park, a Tapland, like Dolly, Dollywood. Didn't you try to get them to make an amusement park themed park based on tap?

• 43:09Speaker 09

  I thought about it.

• 43:11Speaker 08

  Well, you did think about it because you asked us the money.

• 43:14Conan O'Brien?

  Well.

• 43:15Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 43:15Conan O'Brien?

  I thought about that too.

• 43:17Speaker 08

  We sent you money, we sent you money.

• 43:18Conan O'Brien?

  You sent him money to create a final tap? And where, where did this money go? When you got the money from Nigel, what did you do with the money?

• 43:27Speaker 09

  Built the glue museum.

• 43:31Speaker 09

  They don't grow on trees, you know.

• 43:33Speaker 08

  Well, rubber trees.

• 43:34Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, rubber tree, it actually comes from the tree.

• 43:36Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 43:37Conan O'Brien?

  It's a terrible example.

• 43:38Speaker 08

  What's the difference between glue, and since I'm sitting with an expert,

• 43:41Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 43:41Speaker 08

  between glue and mucilage?

• 43:43Speaker 09

  Mucilage is got animal fat.

• 43:47Conan O'Brien?

  Ah, very good.

• 43:48Speaker 08

  Thank you.

• 43:48Conan O'Brien?

  What about epoxy? Now, some people think I'm taking us into a very dry area.

• 43:53Speaker 08

  You gotta wait for it to dry. Yeah.

• 43:56Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, that's not, that is it. That is it. I'm not having any more work. No, don't applaud that. We're not having it.

• 44:04Speaker 10

  What do you mean, some people think?

• 44:06Conan O'Brien?

  I just think there's probably a discerning person in the audience.

• 44:09Speaker 10

  Epoxy, epoxy, which I use on a daily basis, by the way. Epoxy.

• 44:14Speaker 08

  This is not an advert.

• 44:16Speaker 10

  Completely different animal than what he does. Completely different thing. It's a scientific thing that has no organic.

• 44:24Conan O'Brien?

  I see.

• 44:24Speaker 10

  Elements at all.

• 44:25Conan O'Brien?

  Just chemical, pure chemical.

• 44:26Speaker 08

  What do you mean, you use it on a daily basis? What do you do with it on a daily basis?

• 44:31Speaker 10

  Oh, what are you, Ironsides or something? What is this?

• 44:35Conan O'Brien?

  Ironsides?

• 44:36Speaker 10

  Bloody hell, is that?

• 44:38Speaker 08

  Oh, I'm a detective. I'm gonna find out what he's doing. What the [__] is that all about?

• 44:43Conan O'Brien?

  Getting in touch with his inner mopples. What was the last time you watched television? I'm just curious.

• 44:46Speaker 10

  I don't have a television. I don't have a television.

• 44:48Conan O'Brien?

  Well, I have to tell you, no one's referenced Ironsides, the TV show starring Raymond Burr, in over 47 years.

• 44:54Speaker 10

  And that's my fault?

• 44:55Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 44:56Speaker 10

  Well, okay. Look.

• 45:01Speaker 10

  I liked it when it was out in the 70s.

• 45:03Speaker 08

  Yeah, we get them after you had to hear.

• 45:05Speaker 10

  Yeah, of course.

• 45:06Speaker 08

  What was the name of the bloke that pushed him around? What was it? That's all I recall is there was someone pushing him around.

• 45:12Conan O'Brien?

  Again, I love, I'm getting into some areas I didn't think would get into.

• 45:16Speaker 10

  Yeah.

• 45:16Conan O'Brien?

  Who pushed Ironsides around on the original series? And that's something for...

• 45:20Speaker 10

  If one of you can answer that, well, just keep it to yourself, my man, basically.

• 45:27Conan O'Brien?

  Well, did you have, you've now come back together again. And I know there's some difficulties that are well discussed and well chronicled in the documentary. Do you feel enthusiastic about the future of Tap?

• 45:39Speaker 08

  Oh, that's two different things, the future and Tap.

• 45:43Conan O'Brien?

  The future of Tap is one thing.

• 45:45Speaker 10

  Yes, no, no, I see, I see.

• 45:46Conan O'Brien?

  What happens to you guys in the future.

• 45:47Speaker 08

  That's wordplay right there.

• 45:48Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, listen.

• 45:49Speaker 10

  It's not one opinion.

• 45:50Conan O'Brien?

  Don't ever point at me again.

• 45:52Speaker 10

  It's individual opinions on that as well, you know?

• 45:55Conan O'Brien?

  Well, are you enthusiastic about the future of Tap?

• 45:57Speaker 10

  I'm positive generally and think it might be possible to regroup again.

• 46:02Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, it's possible.

• 46:03Speaker 08

  Wide open. Listen, whatever works.

• 46:06Speaker 10

  Possible, yeah.

• 46:06Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, wow, that's a very, this is a nice end.

• 46:09Speaker 08

  If you...

• 46:11Speaker 10

  Inzie Outzie.

• 46:12Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, depending on maybe your financial...

• 46:14Speaker 10

  Well, depending on whether we call him is the thing.

• 46:17Speaker 08

  Or if we called him Inzie Outzie, then... And if you did, and if you did reunite, do you think there's another film there?

• 46:25Speaker 10

  Go to hell.

• 46:28Conan O'Brien?

  It's as good a place to end as any, gentlemen. I'll say it again, I saw the first film in 1984, it introduced me to you and your work, and it changed my life in many ways. I don't say this often, wait a minute, I say it just about every time. All the time, yeah. Constantly. It's an honor to have you here, I mean, I've said it to complete nobodies in the business. It's a formality more than anything else, but a complete and utter honor. Thank you. To have you here, this is, uh, this is a dream. And I thank you all very much. It's a dream come true, is what you mean. Thank all of you, by the way. It's a dream come true. Yes, I'm sorry, because they're bad dreams. You're right. All right, Spinal Tap, Marty DeBurgi, thank you guys so much.

• 47:12Conan O'Brien?

  And, Spinal Tap 2: The End Continues is in theaters September 12th. And their new book, A Fine Line Between Clever and Stupid.

• 47:21Speaker 06

  No, no, no, no. A fine line between stupid and clever.

• 47:25Conan O'Brien?

  Right. Whoever wrote this is just stupid.

• 47:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 47:30Conan O'Brien?

  But reading it was clever. Uh, is, uh, that's available September 9th, and I'm in for all things Tap, as I think our audience is, and many people listening. Spinal Tap, ladies and gentlemen, Marty DeBurgi. Thank you.

• 47:48Speaker 04

  That was great. Thank you so much for including us in that.

• 47:52Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 47:53Speaker 04

  That was really sweet of you.

• 47:55Conan O'Brien?

  I'm sorry. I was looking for a moment when one of your obsessions would come up in the conversation.

• 48:02Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 48:03Conan O'Brien?

  You know what I mean? But it didn't.

• 48:05Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 48:06Conan O'Brien?

  It didn't happen.

• 48:06Speaker 04

  That's all right.

• 48:07Conan O'Brien?

  Channing Tatum never came up.

• 48:10Speaker 04

  Abs.

• 48:11Conan O'Brien?

  I told you guys, jump in at any time. Did I not say that beforehand? You did. Okay, then shut up.

• 48:17Conan O'Brien?

  I'm not even complaining. I know, I just wanted to go after you. It's fun.

• 48:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, go after him, boss.

• 48:23Conan O'Brien?

  That was, that was, uh, that was really fun.

• 48:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was. That was amazing.

• 48:25Conan O'Brien?

  Lovely to talk to those guys and, I mean, saw them years ago and to finally meet them and altogether, it was just one of those pinch me moments.

• 48:32Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 48:32Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 48:33Speaker 04

  Big time.

• 48:33Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, that's an awkward silence.

• 48:35Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 48:36Conan O'Brien?

  Sorry, a little sincerity and everyone's like, "What the fuck was that?" We don't know what to do with it.

• 48:40Speaker 07

  How is that funny?

• 48:40Conan O'Brien?

  Because we're just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

• 48:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know. What, there's...

• 48:45Conan O'Brien?

  No, nothing. I just had a really lovely moment. You can both shut up now.

• 48:47Speaker 04

  Oh, that's just sincerity? We don't know what that looks like. I mean, that's what that is?

• 48:52Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, people look very attractive. Guys, I do have the glasses on sometimes and I take them off sometimes and I think I'm a fidgety person, but I like the movement, I like the action. Let me...

• 49:00Speaker 04

  Nobody was asking about it.

• 49:02Conan O'Brien?

  Well, they asked me about it.

• 49:03Speaker 04

  I know, but it's, you know, you do that. I'll do it again. Uh, yeah, look at that guy. Oh. Oh, yeah, I can't see now, I'm gonna read.

• 49:13Conan O'Brien?

  What'd you say? What are you doing? You doing a little bit? He can't hear you when his glasses are on. Yeah. Take your glasses off. What a prick.

• 49:20Speaker 04

  Oh, what's going on? Oh, hey, guys, this is nice.

• 49:23Conan O'Brien?

  Does he know?

• 49:24Speaker 04

  Oh, great time.

• 49:25Conan O'Brien?

  Right, you're great. You like that bit?

• 49:28Speaker 04

  That was fun.

• 49:29Conan O'Brien?

  Guy who can't hear when his glasses are off?

• 49:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was doing the effects in your head and stuff, too.

• 49:32Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, let's do it again.

• 49:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, okay. Ah, this is fun. Oh, hey.

• 49:35Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, man, I wanna quit so bad.

• 49:37Speaker 04

  Life is nice.

• 49:37Conan O'Brien?

  I wanna quit so bad.

• 49:39Speaker 04

  I love how everything is.

• 49:40Conan O'Brien?

  My god, if I just walk out of here, I love this job. So I go, "Oh," when I put my glasses back on? I hired you as an assistant! You do sound effects, you do voices, you do tricks.

• 49:51Speaker 04

  I know, you had no idea.

• 49:53Conan O'Brien?

  Hey, Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend is brought to you by Airbnb. Yeah. Hello and welcome to the very first Conan O'Brien Airbnb Original Experience. This is our first time. Yeah. Very exciting.

• 50:08Conan O'Brien?

  For our audio listeners, we're at the SiriusXM Garage here in Los Angeles and we are having a blast. And whoever wrote that put an exclamation point at the end, which makes me think it was Blay.

• 50:20Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 50:20Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, it's guilty. Yeah, yeah.

• 50:24Speaker 04

  A blast!

• 50:24Conan O'Brien?

  You would talk that way at a funeral. Isn't this awesome?

• 50:30Conan O'Brien?

  No one expected you to die that young.

• 50:34Conan O'Brien?

  This is a very special event. This is really fun. Everyone here today is getting custom rock and roll merch. Yeah.

• 50:44Conan O'Brien?

  And Blay, what else are they getting?

• 50:46Speaker 05

  Well, everybody got to say how they feel about being Conan O'Brien's friend, which is a first for our podcast.

• 50:54Speaker 05

  As well as, after the recording is done, stick around because we've got the US Air Guitar Association is here. They're the NFL of air guitar. You're going to compete for fame and glory, see a showcase of air guitar all-stars in the first ever Team Coco Air Guitar Championship, which is very exciting.

• 51:14Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, there's some cool signed stuff you can... It's all signed by Blay, though, just so you know. Yeah. And the stuff is pieces of asbestos from a decommissioned battleship. Enjoy that asbestos. No, we have some great stuff for you. A US Air Guitar Championship. What happened to our podcast? What happened? I ascended the very highest heights of show business. Stick around for our Air Guitar Championship. It's fun. People are gonna have a good time. How do you guys like our original Airbnb experience? How great is Spinal Tap? What, did you have a good time? Everyone have a good time? I wanna, just big thanks to everyone who came out to our Team Coco Airbnb experience,

• 51:54Conan O'Brien?

  and thank you to Airbnb for making this happen. They've been terrific partners, and I'm also a satisfied Airbnb customer. And I believe now is the part of the show... We're gonna introduce your real assistant. Well, I shouldn't say that. My true assistant. Oh, sorry. Okay. That's not cool. The Hammer of Thor sits beside me. This is, you were forged in Asgard. You are the original immortal weapon, the Sona of Sesion. When you say Conan's assistant, it's Sona. That is Sona's assistant. Conan's assistant is Sona. Sona is the assistant to Conan. It's just one of those universal truths. But, Sona, of course, went on to bigger, better things. She's now on a giant billboard in Times Square. She's got her own book. She's gone on to... She drives around in a Bentley. Did you know that Sona has a Bentley?

• 52:39Speaker 04

  Not me alone.

• 52:40Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, and her license plate says, "Suck it." It would. Yeah, it would. You would get that.

• 52:45Speaker 04

  I would. I know.

• 52:46Conan O'Brien?

  But she's in the stratosphere. I need someone who actually can show me how to use my apps. And these days, that man is... Where is he? David Hopping. Are you here?

• 52:54Speaker 11

  David Hopping!

• 52:57Conan O'Brien?

  David, join us.

• 52:58Speaker 11

  All right, right here. Sit or stand.

• 53:01Conan O'Brien?

  David, your current obsession, why don't you have a seat? You can have a seat, it's okay.

• 53:05Speaker 11

  I'm gonna sit as far away as possible.

• 53:07Conan O'Brien?

  I'm gonna make you leave. Yeah, that's great. It looks like you're being punished.

• 53:09Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 53:10Conan O'Brien?

  This is like a COVID protocol. Okay. David.

• 53:13Speaker 11

  Yes.

• 53:13Conan O'Brien?

  Um, you're obsessed lately with The Summer I Turned Pretty, right?

• 53:17Speaker 11

  Sona and I both are.

• 53:19Conan O'Brien?

  What's going on with that? Because every time I will call you about something important, like there's a small fire in my kitchen, how do I contact the fire department? And you'll say, are you watching The Summer I Turned Pretty?

• 53:29Speaker 11

  Well, yeah, because it comes out every Wednesday, as you know.

• 53:31Conan O'Brien?

  Which one are you, Team Brenda or JoJo? What is it?

• 53:33Speaker 04

  I can't with you.

• 53:34Conan O'Brien?

  I don't, I don't know the names of the people. How is it?

• 53:36Speaker 11

  I think we're all Team Conrad.

• 53:37Speaker 04

  I do, ooh!

• 53:38Speaker 11

  Yeah!

• 53:39Speaker 04

  Hey, there's our homies in the back.

• 53:41Speaker 11

  In the back.

• 53:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:42Speaker 11

  No, Sona and I text about this show.

• 53:44Speaker 04

  We do. It's very important.

• 53:45Speaker 11

  Anytime there's like a Netflix show or like a show made for like 16-year-old girls, I know I can rely on Sona to watch it as well.

• 53:54Speaker 04

  Anything with like hot 20-something-year-olds just like doing it, we'll watch it.

• 53:59Conan O'Brien?

  At what point, I mean...

• 54:00Speaker 11

  I have this question too.

• 54:01Conan O'Brien?

  At what point is it creepy that you're watching that stuff and getting excited about it? If I were to admit that I love watching hot 20-year-olds go at it, I'm immediately arrested and rightfully so. What about you? When does it become creepy?

• 54:13Speaker 04

  I don't know, probably now. Is that weird?

• 54:16Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 54:17Speaker 04

  Like, as I was saying it, I was like, I mean, they're not...

• 54:21Speaker 11

  It's not great for us.

• 54:22Speaker 04

  It's not great. It's not a good look.

• 54:24Speaker 11

  We're helping the business.

• 54:26Conan O'Brien?

  You know what I love about you? This is how you help me the most, is that I bring you in to ask you about various things and you tell me, David, what's going on in the youth culture, what's happening in America? Because you're from the heartland, you're still very innocent, you're very naive. He is.

• 54:42Speaker 11

  Thank you, I think.

• 54:43Conan O'Brien?

  He grew up not near a cornfield, he grew up in and amongst corn.

• 54:47Speaker 11

  Surrounded by, um...

• 54:48Conan O'Brien?

  Corn grew up around him. And, um, you are always telling me, this is what people are watching now, I'm Team Conrad. I don't know what's happening.

• 54:56Speaker 11

  Well...

• 54:57Conan O'Brien?

  And so I use you to keep me aware of what's happening.

• 55:00Speaker 11

  It's job security.

• 55:01Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 55:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:02Conan O'Brien?

  And how to use my apps.

• 55:03Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 55:03Conan O'Brien?

  All right, what are we doing here, David?

• 55:05Speaker 11

  You're gonna take some questions from the audience.

• 55:07Conan O'Brien?

  Sure.

• 55:07Speaker 11

  And then give them answers.

• 55:08Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Well, no, we're just taking questions, but no answers.

• 55:11Speaker 11

  Raise your hand if you have a question.

• 55:12Conan O'Brien?

  David, I can hear your shoes. It's awkward. Sorry.

• 55:16Speaker 12

  Hi, I'm Alon. I'm very nervous right now.

• 55:19Conan O'Brien?

  Don't be nervous. This is a safe space. We're all friends. I might attack you at any moment. I've also hired people to attack you from behind. Don't be nervous. Seriously, we're just people, but I'm exceptionally talented. Go ahead. I'm one of those people, it's like, "Oh my god, you met him, what did you say?" And there's a lot of... What's that?

• 55:37Speaker 12

  If you want to stand?

• 55:38Conan O'Brien?

  This was fine.

• 55:43Conan O'Brien?

  Goddamn. Blay, I love you.

• 55:45Speaker 07

  Oh, Blay!

• 55:46Conan O'Brien?

  Hey, we love you. You know, we know you... Oh, and this doesn't work. That's great.

• 55:51Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, I now have this mic, and I can stand.

• 55:56Conan O'Brien?

  What's your name again?

• 55:57Speaker 12

  Alon.

• 55:58Conan O'Brien?

  Alon.

• 55:59Speaker 12

  Alon.

• 55:59Conan O'Brien?

  Ilon.

• 56:00Speaker 12

  Alon.

• 56:00Conan O'Brien?

  Olan.

• 56:01Speaker 12

  Like along came Alon.

• 56:03Conan O'Brien?

  You were right to be nervous.

• 56:04Speaker 12

  Alright.

• 56:05Speaker 07

  Alon!

• 56:06Conan O'Brien?

  I'm kidding, I'm totally kidding. Alright, Joe, how are you?

• 56:11Speaker 12

  Fornane, I was wondering, I started watching you when I was 12, so this was always a dream of mine.

• 56:17Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, that's cool.

• 56:18Speaker 12

  Yeah. Are there guests who you still get nervous to talk to?

• 56:22Conan O'Brien?

  I wouldn't say I get nervous. That would be the wrong word. I get focused. I get very focused. I think, this has been thousands and thousands of hours, and I've talked to so many people, there's no nervous anymore, but there is a moment before I go out where I look at, I think about what I'm gonna talk about, and I get, with certain people, and I get very focused.

• 56:50Speaker 12

  So you don't have to fight through anything?

• 56:52Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, I don't think I have to fight through anything anymore. And, this sounds like a joke, but I just think, I've been through so much, that at this point, it's hard to summon that. That was probably more in my earlier life, in my twenties and early thirties, but at this point, I think all of my dignity's been shredded. And I'm just, I don't know, I, there's a, it is, I'm being truthful, I think, there's a, okay, let's see what happens.

• 57:22Speaker 07

  Does anything make you nervous, anything else?

• 57:24Conan O'Brien?

  What do you mean? Am I capable of feeling, am I like the guy who scales? Do you have feelings? Are you human? Is it like free solo? Do I not have the part of my brain? Yeah. Um, I fear, uh, yeah, I would fear, um, there are plenty of things I would fear. Uh, but not, not getting up in front of people. Yeah, I think, um, making a terrible financial decision would frighten me. Cause I think I'd be blamed and mocked, you know?

• 57:50Speaker 04

  I thought you were gonna say something about your like family.

• 57:52Conan O'Brien?

  No, god, no. You can always get another family.

• 57:56Conan O'Brien?

  Hey, nice to meet you and good question. Yes. Alon.

• 57:59Speaker 04

  Alon.

• 57:59Conan O'Brien?

  Alon. I'm not doing this on purpose. I have a new favorite podcast now. Ahhh! I deserve that. Whose alarm is going off? I think it's someone's sincerity alarm. Did you hear a beeping sound? No. I, nope, someone, did you hear it? Anyone? Oh my god, I think I'm very ill. Wow. Yes, how can I help you, sir?

• 58:17Speaker 13

  So I have less of a question, more of a quick request. I have my instant camera on me. Could I take a picture with the gang?

• 58:24Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, of course.

• 58:25Speaker 13

  Can I come down now?

• 58:26Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I like your, uh, late show with Stephen Colbert. Yeah, you're gonna have to change your shirt. No, seriously, uh, good friend, Stephen, and, uh, I'm glad you're out representing. Good man. So let's get down here and let's take this picture.

• 58:39Speaker 04

  Do we have to stand up? Why don't you lie down? There you go.

• 58:47Conan O'Brien?

  Wow, this is all gonna be requests now. No one's gonna ask a question anymore. Conan, I'm type O positive. Can I have a pancreas? Okay, we're gonna go back to questions. Um, who, gentlemen, yes, you brought your own microphone. Very good. How can I help you? I would love it if people brought their own microphones. I know. That was our one request. Go ahead, sir.

• 59:06Speaker 01

  Um, so I was wondering, outside of This is Spinal Tap, what's your favorite Christopher Guest movie?

• 59:12Conan O'Brien?

  Oh wow, I'm gonna say Waiting for Guffman. Hell yeah. Yeah, I love Waiting for Guffman. I mean, I can just watch it endlessly. He's, uh, genius level funny, uh, and I, so I'm delighted by so much of his work. So, so a follow-up call, uh, Conan? No, you guys are getting out of hand. Last guy had a question, but turned it into a photo op. You took one question and turned it into two. I don't like the way this is going. Go ahead, sir.

• 59:37Speaker 01

  So, when you saw This is Spinal Tap in 1984, was that like... So, for me, watching The Simpsons, late, early 90s, that was my first look at satire and parody ever.

• 59:46Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, yeah.

• 59:46Speaker 01

  So, for you, can you think of anything? Because Monty Python was a bit more sketch comedy and less satire and parody in a, in a direct sense.

• 59:53Conan O'Brien?

  Yep.

• 59:53Speaker 01

  Do you think This is Spinal Tap was like, helped mold you into wanting to do satire?

• 59:57Conan O'Brien?

  Definitely, definitely. I mean, there's nobody, my, from my era, um, who wasn't influenced by that film. I believe that there's a period of your life that only happens once. When music, comedy, all the things that are important to you, can hit you in a very pure, unadulterated way. And then, a window closes. It doesn't close completely, but there's a period in your life, and it's like, 15, 16, 17. And for me, that was SCTV, definitely Monty Python, you know, Clouseau films, select ones, uh, with Peter Sellers. There were just things that were moments on Saturday Night Live. Um, there were, you know, things that just hit me directly,

• 1:00:41Conan O'Brien?

  mainlined into my brainstem. And 1984, I'm working for this college humor magazine. I've sworn myself, I, it's like, I remembered saying, "I don't care if I totally never make a penny if I'm, if it never goes anywhere, I'm gonna devote myself to comedy." I recently cleaned out my parents' house, and I found all these comedy ideas I was writing when I was like, 19, 20, and they're not good. And there's a, at the bottom of one page, I was writing them on a typewriter. Um, and no one was even, I mean, computers existed at the time, so I don't know. I'm still writing things on a typewriter. But I, in ink, at the bottom, I had reviewed my work and said, "Please, comedy gods, help me to do better than this crap."

• 1:01:26Conan O'Brien?

  I mean, I was so hard on myself, and so... And that's the age I am when I go to this theater in like, Alston, Massachusetts, and see...

• 1:01:35Speaker 01

  That's where we're from.

• 1:01:36Conan O'Brien?

  All right, you are being arrested.

• 1:01:40Conan O'Brien?

  You look amazing, by the way. You look lovely. Um, but, uh, yeah, I, I saw This is Spinal Tap, and you've, uh, you, I think a lot of us had the same feeling, which is, this is a way of being funny. That was so ahead of its time. And if you think about The Office and Parks and Rec and all these shows that do reportage kind of mockumentary style, to me, it really starts with, I know The Ruttles precedes that, but the real pure dose is Spinal Tap. So, meant everything to me. Yeah. Thank you. Great question. Take some more questions here, and David will get to. He's just taking his time, that's all.

• 1:02:23Speaker 02

  He got the mic, but he's my husband, so he gave it to me.

• 1:02:26Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, that's such a nice... That...

• 1:02:29Speaker 02

  I think he might have an actual question, but, oh, this is so awkward.

• 1:02:32Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, don't worry about it.

• 1:02:34Speaker 02

  It's more of a, can I give you a gift?

• 1:02:37Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, sure.

• 1:02:38Speaker 02

  Or something. I'm an illustrator, and I drew a picture of you.

• 1:02:42Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, my God. Bring it on up. That's so nice. Come on up. Check it out.

• 1:02:49Conan O'Brien?

  That's so cool. That's so nice.

• 1:02:51Speaker 02

  I can't show everyone the whole thing.

• 1:02:54Conan O'Brien?

  What is it?

• 1:02:55Speaker 02

  Because I think I might get in trouble with work if I show you the whole thing.

• 1:02:57Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, I shouldn't... Will I get you in trouble?

• 1:02:59Speaker 02

  You can show that part.

• 1:03:00Conan O'Brien?

  Will we edit this out?

• 1:03:01Speaker 02

  Yes, you can show that.

• 1:03:02Conan O'Brien?

  You can show it and edit it out. You just yell things. Take off your pants! Put a stapler in your ass! What? Oh, I see what this is. I can show this. That's so great. This is me looking at, I mean, we may have to, I think it's been made public, actually.

• 1:03:19Speaker 02

  Okay, good. I don't know, they don't tell me things.

• 1:03:21Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, but this is the character I'm gonna play in Toy Story 5, whose name's Smarty Pants.

• 1:03:27Conan O'Brien?

  That's right. I love that. And who do you work for?

• 1:03:33Speaker 02

  Disney Pixar.

• 1:03:34Conan O'Brien?

  I see, so...

• 1:03:35Speaker 02

  Yay!

• 1:03:36Conan O'Brien?

  Well, you're not only fired, but they're gonna pursue you the rest of your life.

• 1:03:39Speaker 02

  I hope none of them like you.

• 1:03:41Conan O'Brien?

  Do you work up at the Bay Area?

• 1:03:43Speaker 02

  No, no, Glendale, but I do visit Emeryville sometimes.

• 1:03:45Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, so I'm working on the Toy Story 5. I have a character in it, which is one of the coolest things I've been a part of. And I got to go up to the Pixar studios in the Bay Area, and they showed me all the offices and all these iconic things. And it was like Willy Wonka saying, "Do you want to see my chocolate factory?"

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  It was crazy, yeah.

• 1:04:07Conan O'Brien?

  It was really fun.

• 1:04:08Speaker 02

  I've seen the offices before, too, just once, and it was kind of mind blowing.

• 1:04:12Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, well, you guys are so talented. So cool. Did you actually make this yourself?

• 1:04:16Speaker 02

  So I work on product. So I work on things like I drew smarty pants for product, but it doesn't look as like nice. It's like for kids. If they really want it.

• 1:04:25Conan O'Brien?

  That's alright, that's alright. You're doing well. I love it when creative, talented people just find a way to make their mark on the world. That's really impressive to me.

• 1:04:34Speaker 02

  It's good to be here because I was in legal for nine years before this and it's nice to make.

• 1:04:38Conan O'Brien?

  You escaped hell.

• 1:04:39Speaker 02

  I escaped hell, yes.

• 1:04:41Conan O'Brien?

  I'm not putting down lawyers, but you're terrible people.

• 1:04:43Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 1:04:44Conan O'Brien?

  And what is your, let's give a shout out to you. What is your husband's name?

• 1:04:46Speaker 02

  Jonathan, John John.

• 1:04:47Conan O'Brien?

  You forgot his name for a second, didn't you? This marriage is in terrible trouble. He surrendered the microphone out of fear. Are you a, is he a creative person as well?

• 1:04:59Speaker 02

  He likes to write poems.

• 1:05:01Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, that's lovely.

• 1:05:03Speaker 07

  Recite, recite.

• 1:05:05Conan O'Brien?

  Wait a minute, recite. You stand up and say, recite it!

• 1:05:10Speaker 02

  I can say he did spoken word at our wedding and I was mortified.

• 1:05:16Conan O'Brien?

  Wait, but wait a minute. Wow. I'm gonna stick up for him. I think, A, that's lovely that you would do that. That guy's got, I mean, that's very cool.

• 1:05:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is.

• 1:05:25Conan O'Brien?

  I'm, I'm, you know what? I wanted someone to do spoken word at my wedding and someone did. It was just a, it turned out it was just a drunken diatribe about the many ways I've fucked people over in life. By my new wife.

• 1:05:39Conan O'Brien?

  Lovely to meet you. Thank you so much for this. And give my best to the gang at Pixar. You're really talented. So cool. What's that? Why are you yelling now? Oh, wait, I'm sorry. That was his, that was his latest poem.

• 1:05:54Conan O'Brien?

  Very cool. Now I'm just cruising around like a creep. Hey, how are ya? Hello, how are ya? You scared of me now, right? Love the hair.

• 1:06:07Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, anybody else? I can just go to you and have a question? Yes, how are you, sir? What do you have? Just shout it out.

• 1:06:11Speaker 03

  Okay, thank you. Uh, so first I want to say thank you very much.

• 1:06:14Conan O'Brien?

  I'm gonna get behind you in case you prove to be dangerous. You're dressed like a Batman villain. I love it. Two faces here. No, stand up, sir. Show everyone your outfit. Man, you dressed up for this. Good for you. Look at that! Very nice. What is your name? Christopher. Christopher.

• 1:06:29Speaker 07

  Can you use the mic on him real quick?

• 1:06:32Conan O'Brien?

  What's that? Hold on, watch this, I'll do it. I've watched game shows. What's your name again, sir? My name is Christopher. Christopher, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I'm moving a microphone between us, so this conversation will be staccato, is that okay with you? That is very okay with me. Okay, where'd you get the outfit? Uh, H&M. Okay, terrific, wonderful company. But not a sponsor, they can go to hell. What's your question, sir? Uh, so my question is, what do you use for your hair, and when can we expect a hair care line from you? You know what? Okay, this is a great question. This is a terrific question, because my manager, Gavin Pallone, a true animal, uh, who I've been with since like 1992, he's always wanting me to be involved with some kind of product. He says there's a lot of money in that stuff, man. And I'll say, "That's not me, I don't do that."

• 1:07:17Conan O'Brien?

  But then, we did come up with an idea. A while ago, and we just haven't done it, which is a pomade. A pomade, uh, where's my illustrator friend? There we go. A pomade, but like, it's got that cool kind of 1930's, it comes in that tin, and it's got like a cool logo, and it's the Conan Pomade. And I'm telling you, it would be the goop of the modern era. Do you s- It's not, I was just referencing the company, but it would be, you know, because that's done great for Gwyneth, I mean, she drives around in nine Bentleys strapped together. That all say "Suck it." Which you can't have more than one license plate that says the same thing, but she got around it, because she's Gwyneth. I think a pomade.

• 1:08:01Conan O'Brien?

  I think a pomade, and a couple of pomades, what do you think?

• 1:08:05Speaker 03

  I, I'll buy it right now.

• 1:08:06Conan O'Brien?

  What's that? Say again.

• 1:08:07Speaker 03

  If you have it, I'll buy it right now.

• 1:08:09Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, well, you seem like a sap.

• 1:08:12Conan O'Brien?

  I'll buy anything! I'm gonna somehow make this happen. A Conan Pomade, and I'll donate all the, well, no, I'm not gonna say that, that's just stupid. I mean, what if it really blows up? I'll say this, if it doesn't do well, I'll donate the proceeds to a good cause. If it does really well, I'm buying an island somewhere, okay? Uh, and I'm just gonna go there and be a total freak. Alright, so yeah, what's that?

• 1:08:34Speaker 04

  I said Konaid, and then I got really embarrassed I did that.

• 1:08:38Conan O'Brien?

  I've never known you to be embarrassed about anything you've said.

• 1:08:41Speaker 04

  I know, cuz I said it so quietly and no one heard it. And I was like, I got away with it. And then you turned around to me and asked me-

• 1:08:47Conan O'Brien?

  No, I sensed that you were in danger.

• 1:08:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:49Conan O'Brien?

  I'm like a T-Rex that sees movement. If someone slightly misspeaks, I can see for 900 miles. That's true.

• 1:08:56Speaker 04

  So true.

• 1:08:57Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I'm like this pomade idea. I'm telling you, it could have like a cool logo that looks like it's like kinda from the 20s. And it's, what's that? Outline of my hair, but you know what I mean? It has, it needs just the right font. I've gotta get right, the right mixture of different spices and oils. I want it to be something you can also eat if you're hungry. I wanna, I wanna put a little protein in it. So there's a little bit of, you know, cow collagen in there. And you can just put it in your hair, but then go like, mm, I'm feeling tired. I want there to be little tiny pieces of bacon inside. This is the cream- And then that bacon goes in your hair? Yeah. Okay. Duh. What's with dummy over here?

• 1:09:39Conan O'Brien?

  I love this. I think this is a fantastic idea. What's your name? I just like wandering around, but use the mic, it's good. Cuz this is all gonna end up on the podcast. Hi, how are you? Nice to see you. Delighted. I saw you ladies backstage. Don't know how you got back there. It frightened me. Yes, go ahead.

• 1:09:56Speaker 14

  I was just letting you schmooze, which is totally cool. Not letting you, obviously.

• 1:10:01Conan O'Brien?

  Like a wingman, that's very cool. You're like, oh, Conan's talking to these ladies up front. I better give him his space so that he can cheat on his wife?

• 1:10:09Speaker 14

  No, absolutely not.

• 1:10:10Conan O'Brien?

  How dare you turn against Liza like that?

• 1:10:12Speaker 14

  No, absolutely not.

• 1:10:13Conan O'Brien?

  Anyway, drinks later?

• 1:10:16Speaker 14

  I also had another movie question.

• 1:10:19Conan O'Brien?

  Yep.

• 1:10:19Speaker 14

  And it's probably open-ended, but you're obviously like the creator of your universe and going in-

• 1:10:26Conan O'Brien?

  What are you talking about? Do not give him any ideas.

• 1:10:29Speaker 14

  With everyone.

• 1:10:30Conan O'Brien?

  The creator of my universe? I'm looking at the people out here so that they feel included. It's the guy that high-fived me. I don't do well with them. I don't get a good connection. It's not you. You, what, your elbow? Look at the elbow? Yeah?

• 1:10:46Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, sir, I, no, I'm sorry. I will take your question in one second.

• 1:10:50Speaker 14

  It's totally fine.

• 1:10:51Conan O'Brien?

  You had a question about me creating the universe and then this guy. Go ahead, sir. So, I will teach you how to give a perfect high five every time. But I don't like doing them. Then I will not teach you how to give a perfect high. Teach me so I know how to do it if I need to do it. Go ahead. I'm assuming you're right-handed? Yes, I am, sir. What a dick.

• 1:11:11Conan O'Brien?

  I'm being mansplained and I'm a man. Alright. Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:11:20Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah! Yours was much stronger than mine and it pulled my elbow out of my socket. My shoulder, I'm bleeding into my shirt. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna start, but you know what? A lot of people.

• 1:11:31Speaker 14

  You're doing it hard on purpose.

• 1:11:33Conan O'Brien?

  So are you. What's that? What? Oh, you have your own podcast going on over here? There's a lot of people, there's a lot of people on the street, and this is what gets me. Sometimes people are maybe 30 yards away and they'll be like, "Turn it!" And they stand there like the fucking Statue of Liberty. And uh, uh, uh, uh, click, you know what I mean? And then it's, they've been eating a sloppy joe, they haven't washed their hands, it's a mess. Sir, what's your name? Hypes. Okay, Hypes?

• 1:12:02Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, you're the, you're the air guitar guy. I could tell there was something about you that, uh, caused me an existential dread. Well, best of luck to you. Your parents must be thrilled. Let's shake it out? Thank you so much. Nice to meet you, sir. Well, you're in for a treat with Hypes. Hypes, the master of air guitar. I'm so sorry, your name again? I, you know, when Hypes takes over, I mean, he literally smashed through the window.

• 1:12:25Speaker 14

  Totally fine.

• 1:12:26Conan O'Brien?

  There's a reason they put him behind that salad guard.

• 1:12:28Speaker 14

  It's totally fine. But, it's your movie with Rose Byrne.

• 1:12:32Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, yeah.

• 1:12:32Speaker 14

  Yeah.

• 1:12:33Conan O'Brien?

  If I had legs, I'd kick you.

• 1:12:34Speaker 14

  Yeah, and again, it's very open-ended, but like, you obviously are you, you know?

• 1:12:41Conan O'Brien?

  You said it like there's nothing that can be done. Tragically, you are you, and this is a condition from which no one recovers.

• 1:12:49Speaker 14

  But it's just that shift, right? Like, obviously, you've acted all that, but even when I saw the trailer, I was like, oh, wow. This is something totally different.

• 1:12:57Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:58Speaker 14

  And again, open-ended question.

• 1:12:59Conan O'Brien?

  Well, there is no question there.

• 1:13:02Speaker 14

  Yeah, I know, I'm sorry.

• 1:13:03Conan O'Brien?

  I think I know what you're getting at, which is talk about that thing that you did. I'm thrilled because I got a, it's an 824 film, and I love their, I mean, I love everything 824 does. I get a call to an 824 film, the director wants to show you a script that she's written. Her name's Mary Bronstein. I meet with her. She's got such a cool vision. She writes the script that is, floors me. And then Rose Byrne is cast, and all my scenes are opposite Rose. And I, like anyone who's sentient, adores Rose Byrne. I just adore her. I just think she's amazing. And so I do this. I took it really seriously.

• 1:13:45Conan O'Brien?

  And Rose gives this insane performance. Who here has seen it? Have you seen it, Sona? You haven't seen it?

• 1:13:50Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:13:51Conan O'Brien?

  Who has? I think, David, you saw it. And Rose, right? Here, you should have a microphone, too.

• 1:13:56Speaker 04

  Oh, cool. David saw it. That's cool.

• 1:13:58Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Because I took, because you gave me your job.

• 1:14:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm happy for you. You guys do cool things.

• 1:14:03Conan O'Brien?

  Rose is incredible in it. It's just insane. And David was with me during the shooting of it, because that's what a real assistant does. He comes with you. And it was a really difficult time, and you were...

• 1:14:12Speaker 04

  You never shot movies when I worked for you, so that's on you, bro.

• 1:14:16Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, I guess it is. I guess it is. It's my fault.

• 1:14:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, and he went to Pixar with you, too, didn't he?

• 1:14:22Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:24Conan O'Brien?

  You know what's great? My career has just blossomed into this wonderful thing, and Sona stepped off the boat. Sona was on a boat that went to Pittsburgh, Cleveland. Now we've hit the Caribbean, and just beforehand, she stepped off. So you screwed up, Sona. Anyway, it's really fun. It was a great experience. I really think the movie is fantastic, and I credit completely, I mean, it's Mary Bronstein, it's Rose Byrne, ASAP Rocky. I'm in there, too, but I give it up totally for them. I just was, so I love being a part of that. And I'm excited to hear what people think when it comes out.

• 1:15:02Speaker 14

  I'm really excited to see you in like, in that medium space, you know what I mean?

• 1:15:07Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, not so shrill and needy. Words created by other people.

• 1:15:12Speaker 14

  He just seems so mean and like unapologetically mean.

• 1:15:15Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, it's funny. I guess I'm a great actor. I pretended and was able to act as if I have a mean part of me. And it was just a complete transformation. Unbelievable. No one can believe, but I... What I did is I read about people being mean and cruel. And I tried to imagine what that was like.

• 1:15:38Conan O'Brien?

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