The Mothman Cometh

Conan talks to Sam in Chicago about designing cryptid-themed adult toys and accessories. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:02Conan O'Brien?

  The holidays are supposed to be about making memories, not managing the mess that comes with them. Between winter weather, road trips, shopping and family gatherings, your vehicle can take a beating. Mine sure does.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  Same.

• 0:14Conan O'Brien?

  Especially when I'm back in the Northeast, driving around. I mean, I grew up with that.

• 0:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:18Conan O'Brien?

  Cars were red, the salt on the road, people throwing rocks at me.

• 0:22Speaker 01

  Whaaat?

• 0:23Conan O'Brien?

  That's not a weather thing. That's more of a me being, making people angry problem. WeatherTech helps protect your vehicle from snow, slush, salt and seasonal messes. They also make the best gifts for automobile protection, from floor liners and cargo liner to side window deflectors, even gift cards. Great for today and to prevent future messes. Everything is built to last, easy to clean and designed for harsh winter conditions, okay? I grew up with this.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:49Conan O'Brien?

  And the salt would eat away the car. We actually did have a Chevy. My dad had a Chevy Impala and the floor rusted out and you could see the road going by.

• 0:56Speaker 01

  Ohhh.

• 0:57Conan O'Brien?

  Boy, we were praying for WeatherTech and we didn't even know it. That was before it existed.

• 1:02Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 1:03Conan O'Brien?

  So get a gift today at weathertech.com.

• 1:09Conan O'Brien?

  Now Sona, clearly I'm a very important person to you.

• 1:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12Conan O'Brien?

  Just accept the premise and we'll move ahead.

• 1:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:15Conan O'Brien?

  I'm a very important person to you. What would you get me from Macy's for the holidays?

• 1:20Speaker 01

  A vase.

• 1:22Conan O'Brien?

  No, I don't want a vase. I want something better.

• 1:24Speaker 01

  A jacket.

• 1:26Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, nice jacket. I love a nice jacket.

• 1:27Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, that jacket. Nice jacket.

• 1:28Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, so now you have to do it because you said you would.

• 1:30Speaker 01

  Aw man, I didn't know you were doing that. I didn't know you were trapping me.

• 1:33Conan O'Brien?

  I know the holidays are months away, but it's never too early, Sona, to find gifts that I will love, gifts I will wear and surprises that make the season unforgettable for me.

• 1:44Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:44Conan O'Brien?

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• 2:10Speaker 01

  Conan O'Brien Needs a Fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com/callconan. Okay, let's get started.

• 2:19Speaker 02

  Hi, Sam. Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Fan.

• 2:22Speaker 03

  Hey, how are you there?

• 2:23Conan O'Brien?

  Hey, Sam. How are you?

• 2:25Speaker 03

  I'm doing really good. How are you doing?

• 2:26Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, doing great. First of all, loving the hair, Sam.

• 2:30Speaker 03

  Thank you. Yeah, I know. I felt inspired.

• 2:34Conan O'Brien?

  I, uh, I love, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm not egotistical enough to say it's the Conan swoop. Cause, uh, you know, I didn't invent it. I think Bob's big boy invented it, but, uh, looks very cool. So I'm loving that. Tell us a little bit about yourself, Sam.

• 2:49Speaker 03

  So, uh, my name's Sam and I live in Chicago and, uh, you know, been a big fan of yours since, you know, forever.

• 2:57Conan O'Brien?

  Thank you.

• 2:58Speaker 03

  Actually, used, uh, with my first paychecks, I actually bought a TV. Uh, like, it was like back in like 2003, a little tiny LCD TV that I could watch Conan, like the show, like your guys' show, uh, in my room right before I went to bed. Uh, so I wouldn't keep everyone else in the house up.

• 3:17Conan O'Brien?

  Wow. So you have excellent comedy taste and you're considerate. That's a great combination.

• 3:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, I try, I try to be. And, uh, my brother, who's, his name is also Matt, also loves, uh, has always loved, uh, you two. He's about as tall as you two.

• 3:32Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, wow. Okay.

• 3:34Speaker 03

  I would have been as tall as you if I, uh, had, uh, if I had a, if I had a Y chromosome. Uh, but, uh, I am a trans guy.

• 3:42Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 3:42Speaker 03

  Uh, which means that I started life as a girl and, and when I was 33, I transitioned to being a guy.

• 3:49Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 3:50Speaker 03

  Um, yeah.

• 3:51Conan O'Brien?

  And tell us, and, and so you, so how old are you now? How long ago did you transition?

• 3:56Speaker 03

  So I, I transitioned when I was 33 years old. I started and I'm going to be 39 next month.

• 4:02Conan O'Brien?

  Mm-hmm.

• 4:02Speaker 03

  So.

• 4:03Conan O'Brien?

  You look fantastic, by the way. I was gonna say, you look like you're like 22 years old.

• 4:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:09Speaker 03

  I know. Well, that's kind of like one of the perks of like, you know, transitioning a little bit later is, you know, you look, you always look a little bit younger, like when you're transitioning from, uh, female to male. But like for me, like for some people, like in their early twenties, like that's not so great. But like when you're in your thirties, you know, I'll take it. I, I'll look younger.

• 4:29Conan O'Brien?

  I was gonna say, I was thinking, I want to transition from a man my age to a man who's much younger.

• 4:36Conan O'Brien?

  Someone figure it out.

• 4:37Speaker 03

  Don't we all, though?

• 4:38Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 4:39Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, I gotta figure, I gotta figure that one out, too. If I could figure out how to transition my joints and all of my problems.

• 4:44Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, they're gonna figure it all out. Have you watched The Substance?

• 4:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, we'll figure it out.

• 4:48Conan O'Brien?

  They've, they're working on, Demi Moore is working very hard on this.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, it worked out great for her, too.

• 4:52Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah. Looked like it did to me. So, Sam, what do you, what's your, what's your, what's your gig? What's your job? What do you do?

• 5:01Speaker 03

  So, um, pretty much, I, I run my own business. I actually make adult toys.

• 5:07Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 5:08Speaker 03

  And, uh, we, uh, when I, I've actually been in the industry since 2008. But when I started transitioning, which was, I think it was, that was like 2019,

• 5:20Speaker 03

  I kind of noticed that there wasn't toys on the market that like were super compatible with like trans anatomy and like the changes that your body goes through.

• 5:27Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, that would be true, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I was like, hey, I've got these skills from working in the industry. Can I translate that into something that works good for, you know, for a variety of different body types? So, uh, and that's what I've been doing, uh, pretty much since then. It's, it's mostly just been me, um, my designer who lives in Denmark. And then just recently, one of my partners started helping me make toys like just, you know, to keep up on orders.

• 5:55Conan O'Brien?

  Now, I'm curious, so you were, uh, in the adult toy business before you transitioned, is that right?

• 6:02Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 6:02Conan O'Brien?

  I see, okay, that, okay. And then realized that, hey, wait a minute, um, there needs, there's a market here that's not being taken care of.

• 6:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. And it was like, I, I mean, there was definitely stuff out there. Um, and I swear I probably bought like one of everything, uh, just to see. And then it's taken, um, you know, it's taken a while, but like we've, we've, like, one of our toys took like four years to finally design, so it would be combat compatible. Um, and then another thing we completely came up with, uh, that nobody else has done is, uh, we came up with what's called a grindable, which is like halfway between, uh, like a, like a, like a sleeve and like a grind pad, which is something that like some people use, like, you know, like cis women will generally use to, uh, like grind up against.

• 6:53Speaker 03

  So we kind of invented something that was halfway between that, me and my designer.

• 6:57Conan O'Brien?

  And then when it's, when it's ready for market, how do you get the word out?

• 7:01Speaker 03

  So, um, one of the things, uh, like, so our toys are cryptid themed, so they're, they're basically like fantasy toys themed. So that was like what my old business did, so I kind of just kept going with that. But mine are cryptid based, so.

• 7:17Conan O'Brien?

  Meaning like, like monsters and stuff like that?

• 7:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, so they're based on like monsters and, uh, you know, folklore.

• 7:24Conan O'Brien?

  Oh my god.

• 7:24Speaker 03

  We have like a Mothman, we have Minotaur, um, you know, we've got the Jersey Devil, uh, you know, we're, we're trying to come up with more stuff.

• 7:33Conan O'Brien?

  What's the Mothman one like?

• 7:35Speaker 03

  Uh, so.

• 7:36Conan O'Brien?

  I think you have a customer here.

• 7:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, so this is our Mothman.

• 7:41Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, wait a minute.

• 7:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, so this is our, yeah, this is our medium.

• 7:45Speaker 01

  No, it's not.

• 7:46Conan O'Brien?

  That's a medium?

• 7:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, we have two sizes smaller.

• 7:50Conan O'Brien?

  What's the big deal?

• 7:51Speaker 03

  And two sizes bigger.

• 7:54Speaker 03

  But yeah, and then these are all made of platinum cure, um, medical grade silicone. So these are not like the toys that you just buy, like, you know, online that are just made of unknown materials, you know?

• 8:06Conan O'Brien?

  Right, right, you want to make sure you're using medical grade.

• 8:08Speaker 03

  Safe, yeah, yeah, so, um, yeah, we, uh, you know, that, and then we, and then we make these, we, we can say, I, I, like, one of the cool things that I can do is I can fade the silicone to.

• 8:19Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 8:20Speaker 03

  Like this is, this is, you start with one, it's one bucket and you fade all the way down to a different color, so it's.

• 8:26Speaker 01

  It's jiggles so much.

• 8:27Speaker 03

  It's fun, I mean, like, I have a background in art too, so that's.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 8:30Speaker 03

  That helps.

• 8:31Speaker 01

  It is beautiful.

• 8:32Speaker 03

  Art and comedy, so, I mean, you have to have a sense of.

• 8:34Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, you do comedy as well?

• 8:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, uh, you know, all throughout high school, I did improv and theater and all of that. And then when I got out of high school, I was like, man, I really miss this. So I ended up starting a, um, we go to furry conventions, which is another way that we market, because there's a big market for like,

• 8:55Conan O'Brien?

  And, and explain, for anyone who's listening who doesn't know, including me, exactly, the fur, what is the, the furry world is?

• 9:03Speaker 03

  So the furry fandom is just like a group of people that enjoy anthropomorphic animals. So we're talking stuff like, you know, as, you know, like, like, like Bugs Bunny all the way up to like Zootopia, things like that. People just enjoy that. And for the most part, it's, you know, it's, it's very just like family friendly, but there is a, like a not safe for work kind of side of the fandom.

• 9:25Conan O'Brien?

  There's a, there's a not safe for work echelon of every, of every fandom.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:32Conan O'Brien?

  Including probably Team Coco.

• 9:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. This work is not safe for work.

• 9:36Speaker 03

  I did, I did hear those, uh, those, uh, someone was reading those fan, I think it was Sona had the fan fictions that, uh,

• 9:43Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, yeah. No, no, there's that echelon of, uh, in, in every world. You can't go, if you, if you're a geologist, there's a not safe for work fandom.

• 9:51Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. And, and the same goes for like the cryptozoology stuff. And that's why there's like a whole monster lover community, things like that. But when I first started going to these.

• 10:02Conan O'Brien?

  You, you're, um, cause, cause you have all these different worlds. There's, um, that you're, that you're exploring or that you're part of. And you said that you're also in the, in the, in the, in the comedy world, but in the furry world as well. So do those cross over? Do you do comedy in the furry, at furry conventions?

• 10:22Speaker 03

  Yeah. So, uh, I, I really missed, uh, doing, um, I really missed doing improv specifically. So one year, uh, I asked a convention if I could host like an improv panel. Um, and we just called it Who's Lion? So it was like an animal pun on who's lion is it anyway?

• 10:42Conan O'Brien?

  I, I don't know why, but I think that's a very marketable idea. Who's lion?

• 10:47Speaker 03

  It was, and it was,

• 10:48Conan O'Brien?

  I like that.

• 10:49Speaker 03

  And we ended up, uh, our first show had like 60 people and like, what we ended up doing was we just kind of let the audience come up and participate. Like I would, you know, work and play the games. I was just basically like running like, hey, we're playing this game now. And, uh, you know, we've had like up to 500 people at one show. I mean, obviously not everybody can participate at that point when there's like that many people. Um, but we do try to get as many people up as possible to play in these games. So we can just share in like the love of.

• 11:18Conan O'Brien?

  Everyone's dressed as animals.

• 11:21Speaker 03

  Not everybody. Uh, so I would say like 10% of a furry convention actually like, actually has like costumes. Um, but then these are just people who are, you know, were coming to hang out and we have like a common interest and uh, they, you know, they want to come up on stage and you know, have a good time. And some of them are in suit. Um, like I've done it in suit, like when we do a charity version of Who's Lion, I'll generally be in my fursuit.

• 11:46Conan O'Brien?

  And what's, what's your fursuit?

• 11:48Speaker 03

  So my fursuit's an African wild dog. I've had like a bunch of different fursuits throughout the years, but my current one is an African wild dog.

• 11:54Conan O'Brien?

  So you're onstage doing comedy dressed as an, as an African wild dog?

• 12:00Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 12:00Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, I, we're, there's so many, I mean, my mind is expanding in so many amazing ways.

• 12:05Speaker 02

  I'm still on that Mothman schlong.

• 12:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, the Mothman schlong.

• 12:18Conan O'Brien?

  Your name represents everything you've built, okay? Everything. Like, I feel that way about my name.

• 12:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:23Conan O'Brien?

  It stands for, uh, all of the work, good and not so good that I've been in my life. But guess what? Your children's names represent their whole futures.

• 12:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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• 12:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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• 13:02Speaker 01

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• 13:03Conan O'Brien?

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• 13:09Speaker 01

  What?

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• 13:32Conan O'Brien?

  Who do you shop for first on the holidays, Sona? Was it, do you shop for the kids or do you shop for Tac?

• 13:36Speaker 01

  My kids.

• 13:37Conan O'Brien?

  Okay.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  Or Oki.

• 13:38Conan O'Brien?

  You gotta get them your stuff.

• 13:39Speaker 01

  Or my dog.

• 13:40Conan O'Brien?

  And then your husband is last. Well, guess what? It's that time of year. You feel that, you smell that cinnamon cider in the air? Do you smell that?

• 13:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:49Conan O'Brien?

  And you see pumpkins around, people buying turkeys. A little early to buy a turkey.

• 13:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:54Conan O'Brien?

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• 14:27Conan O'Brien?

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• 14:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:30Conan O'Brien?

  And a sun that will gulf us in about 5 billion years, give or take.

• 14:34Speaker 01

  Oh, good.

• 14:34Conan O'Brien?

  It is going to eventually incinerate us, the sun, but we've got 5 billion years.

• 14:38Speaker 01

  Okay, that's time.

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• 15:13Conan O'Brien?

  Sona, you have to admit, the holidays, it's really about hanging with the people you love.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:20Conan O'Brien?

  And getting to be yourself. Not going to some stuffy holiday party where you need to conform to what the man wants you to think about the holidays.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:29Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, it's about being yourself. Turn your holiday time into Miller time by enjoying a Miller Lite in a place where you're free to enjoy yourself on a walk with a cousin. With a cousin? Why are they getting all specific about?

• 15:40Speaker 01

  Because it's family.

• 15:41Conan O'Brien?

  But what about a niece or a nephew?

• 15:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:45Conan O'Brien?

  Like a walk with an ex-wife?

• 15:48Conan O'Brien?

  I don't know, I mean, they're just throwing, that's a weird, they just made a very specific choice.

• 15:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:52Conan O'Brien?

  Now's the time for those unexpected holiday side guests and enjoy a great tasting light beer. 'Tis Miller time, as Dickens wrote. Miller Lite is brewed for taste, the taste you can depend on. The original light beer since 1975 and still iconic more than 50 years later. I like to be with my bros, my chums, my posse. Crack open a Miller Lite, take a swig, sip, look around and see my friends. We've known each other forever and we're just hanging out.

• 16:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, you guys are just doing chest bumps and high fiving.

• 16:22Conan O'Brien?

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• 16:45Speaker 02

  You just said that ready to go, that was right off camera.

• 16:47Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 16:48Speaker 02

  What else you got?

• 16:48Speaker 03

  Oh, I have a ton right off camera.

• 16:50Speaker 02

  Well, let's see 'em! Do a parade, come on!

• 16:53Speaker 03

  Let's do a parade. So first of all, um, remember I talked about like the grindable?

• 16:57Speaker 02

  Whoa!

• 16:59Speaker 03

  So this is like our invention. We actually have the provisional patent on these. We have two of them.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  We have the serpent interface and the zeno interface.

• 17:06Conan O'Brien?

  That must have been a fun day at the patent office. I can't just picture a really nerdy guy. And tell me what you have, I have these, me!

• 17:14Speaker 03

  Well, thankfully, my business lawyer is a patent lawyer and he's just like, he's so cool about it, he's like, whatever. And then, you know, another thing that we did was we actually ended up scaling it up.

• 17:24Conan O'Brien?

  Oh!

• 17:25Speaker 03

  So cis men could use it as like a masturbatory.

• 17:29Speaker 02

  Wait, is that just friction based or you, is it electronic?

• 17:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, you, so you do, yeah, it's all silicone.

• 17:36Conan O'Brien?

  I've never seen you this involved in the engineering of anything.

• 17:39Speaker 03

  Like you would like a flashlight.

• 17:40Speaker 02

  What?

• 17:40Speaker 03

  You use it like you would a flashlight.

• 17:42Speaker 01

  Oh, flashlight.

• 17:43Speaker 03

  And it's all textured on the inside and everything like.

• 17:46Speaker 01

  It's like a tube that you stick your dick into.

• 17:48Speaker 02

  It's a flashlight that you fuck.

• 17:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a, you fuck a flashlight.

• 17:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:51Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 17:52Speaker 01

  But it's like, inside is not like a.

• 17:54Conan O'Brien?

  That's what a paper towel tube is for. My wife's always like, where's the tube? Why is a paper towel just everywhere?

• 18:02Speaker 03

  See, we want stuff that lasts a little bit longer than that, though.

• 18:04Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, I can make them last.

• 18:06Speaker 02

  Oh!

• 18:08Conan O'Brien?

  You just gotta shellac them first and bake them in the sun.

• 18:11Speaker 01

  Oh, God!

• 18:13Conan O'Brien?

  My wife, why are all these towels just all over the place?

• 18:16Speaker 01

  Oh, God!

• 18:18Conan O'Brien?

  Sorry, dear. I was fashioning a flashlight.

• 18:23Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 18:24Conan O'Brien?

  Um, wow, my marriage is over now.

• 18:29Conan O'Brien?

  You're just gonna see me walking alone down the highway with a suitcase.

• 18:33Speaker 02

  And a paper towel.

• 18:34Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, no. You open the suitcase and fifteen paper towel holders fall out. Oh my god. This thing is broken. This thing is broken. So, alright, I'm picturing you doing improv or stand-up onstage, dressed as an African wild dog. That must be a little challenging, because it's hard enough to do improv, but when you're dressed as a furry animal, that's gotta be really challenging.

• 18:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, like, we have microphones onstage, so one of the funny things about it is that, like, when you do have, like, a fursuit and you are onstage, and especially, like, even if it's like a smaller crowd, like, we still have to get the microphones on the fursuiters.

• 19:11Conan O'Brien?

  Yep.

• 19:13Speaker 03

  You know, normally I have no problem projecting, but even in suit, like, I have issues with it. So, you have to, like, put the microphone, like, all the way in the fursuit mouth, so it's up against your mouth in the head, so it kinda just, like, looks like you're, well, deep-throating a microphone when you're doing that. But, uh...

• 19:34Conan O'Brien?

  Well, I'd hate for something untoward to happen.

• 19:37Speaker 03

  Yeah. So, but yeah, no, we always have, like, a really good time.

• 19:42Conan O'Brien?

  I love how delicate you were about, oh, and it's, I don't know how else to say this, you just showed us nine different products that would get me arrested in any airport.

• 19:53Speaker 02

  I just saw a purple spiked clam that was a sex toy.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  A clam?

• 19:59Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, like, I go through the airports all the time with these in my carry-on.

• 20:03Speaker 01

  Oh, well, they don't beep.

• 20:04Speaker 03

  Because I wanna have, I wanna make sure that they don't get lost, because we've had, like, like, because we go to conventions to sell, and I've had, like, packages get lost. Like, there's, in Boston specifically, there are two boxes of my toys that just never showed up to a convention in Boston that we were at.

• 20:24Conan O'Brien?

  Because they were confiscated?

• 20:25Speaker 03

  So those are just somewhere.

• 20:26Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  No, they got delivered to the hotel, and someone signed for them, but nobody could find them.

• 20:32Conan O'Brien?

  Right.

• 20:33Speaker 03

  So, I don't know where they are.

• 20:35Conan O'Brien?

  They knew what they had there.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  So now we put air tags in all of our boxes.

• 20:38Conan O'Brien?

  They probably think they're staplers or something. Exotic staplers. Kachinka, kachinka, kachinka.

• 20:44Speaker 02

  Hey, I got this new paperweight.

• 20:46Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  You mean the moth man?

• 20:48Conan O'Brien?

  I have a paperweight, and look, I have a stapler that looks like...

• 20:55Conan O'Brien?

  As you would call it a clam.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 20:57Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, listen.

• 20:58Speaker 03

  A clam.

• 20:59Conan O'Brien?

  Listen, I, um, you've expanded my mind in wonderful ways. And, uh, this is an impressive, this is impressive business that you've got going here.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  Thank you. It means a lot.

• 21:11Conan O'Brien?

  Do you have a factory? Where's the, where's the actual production done?

• 21:15Speaker 03

  So it's done right here at my house. Uh, my entire basement is, uh, finished and like, it's a finished basement that we've like completely, uh, set up to do all the, uh, we have, um, we have seven 3D printers.

• 21:31Conan O'Brien?

  Wow.

• 21:32Speaker 03

  We have, um, my, we have a couple of vacuum chambers. Uh, you know, cause we have to take all the air out of the silicone before we pour it. Um, so there's no bubbles in the toy. Um, and, um, yeah, we just do everything here, uh, like just locally, you know? And I get all my supplies locally.

• 21:50Conan O'Brien?

  And there's no like, there's no, I mean, I'm thinking there's chemicals then in your basement. You would hate there for there to be, there's never could be an explosion or anything. Cause you don't want these things raining down in the neighborhood.

• 22:00Speaker 03

  Silicone's not flammable.

• 22:01Conan O'Brien?

  Look out, put up your umbrellas.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  Like a meth lab?

• 22:04Speaker 03

  We do have a.

• 22:05Conan O'Brien?

  Comblam! And I'm just picturing them coming down like missiles.

• 22:08Speaker 03

  All the dildos just raining from the sky.

• 22:11Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 22:11Speaker 03

  But no, there's.

• 22:12Conan O'Brien?

  Someone looks up and goes, oh no! Glup! Um, out of control. This is an out of control interview.

• 22:19Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 22:20Conan O'Brien?

  I blame you, Sam. This is your fault. You know, you took a very serious sober podcast.

• 22:25Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 22:26Conan O'Brien?

  And you, uh, it's become.

• 22:27Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, uh-huh.

• 22:30Speaker 01

  Very serious. We're very dramatic, serious podcast.

• 22:34Conan O'Brien?

  Did Sam have a question for me?

• 22:34Speaker 02

  You have a question, Sam?

• 22:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, um, one of the things that I always wondered is, do you ever wish that they still made the O-Taco? At Taco Bell?

• 22:44Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, uh, what, what, what, oh, that's right. I didn't, I think I did a remote once. Did I do a remote once?

• 22:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, you did a remote. It's one of my favorites.

• 22:52Conan O'Brien?

  And, um.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  It's a.

• 22:54Conan O'Brien?

  I went with, who did I go?

• 22:56Speaker 01

  Hayes.

• 22:56Conan O'Brien?

  I went with, uh, yeah, I went with Chris Hayes.

• 22:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:59Conan O'Brien?

  That was a fun remote.

• 23:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was.

• 23:00Conan O'Brien?

  I have to say, and I'm not, uh, we are not sponsored by Taco Bell or anything, but man, that was delicious.

• 23:06Speaker 02

  What was in it?

• 23:07Conan O'Brien?

  Do you remember? I'm trying to remember. It was delicious.

• 23:10Speaker 03

  It was like corned beef hash, potatoes.

• 23:13Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 23:14Speaker 03

  And then I believe you dumped it, you dumped a Guinness on it.

• 23:17Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 23:20Conan O'Brien?

  You can't go wrong dumping a Guinness on anything. But yes, I remember Taco Bell, they asked me to design something and so I went all Irish on them. And I think I had one bite and then had a massive heart attack.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm shocked it's not like in every Taco Bell.

• 23:37Conan O'Brien?

  I guess Taco Bell decided not to go wide with it. But if you're ever at the Dublin Taco Bell, it's their biggest seller.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  The old Taco.

• 23:52Speaker 03

  But yeah, like ever since then, anytime I can get potatoes and tacos, like there's like a couple of places. I mean, like Taco Bell does do that, but like there's like other places that like sell mashed potatoes and tacos and stuff like that. I always have to get it because I always think about.

• 24:04Conan O'Brien?

  Well, they rip me off, man. They rip me off. You've got to make sure no one's ripping you off too. Hey, that's a good, that's a good question because you're, it sounds like you're onto a market. There might be people out there that are like, hey, wait a minute, I'm glad you got the patents. That's the important thing, especially on the moth.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, for the, for that one. Yeah, especially, yeah. It's still, yeah, it's still provisional patent, so it's, you know, rest assured that's sitting on some government office somewhere waiting to get approved.

• 24:31Conan O'Brien?

  Right on their desk.

• 24:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's waiting there, yeah.

• 24:35Conan O'Brien?

  Sam, it was very cool talking to you. You're very funny and best of luck with your business. And we're very lucky to have you as a fan.

• 24:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm lucky to have you guys to listen to because you guys are always on when I'm working on stuff. So I say, I always save the podcast for when I have like, you know, long days to get through orders.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  We inspire the dildos.

• 24:59Conan O'Brien?

  We do.

• 25:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:00Speaker 03

  You do.

• 25:01Conan O'Brien?

  There's a little bit of us in that thing.

• 25:04Speaker 03

  Yes, in every single joint. And then my, my one partner wanted me to show you this. He made a Team Coco colored.

• 25:10Conan O'Brien?

  Look at that.

• 25:12Speaker 03

  This is a biomec.

• 25:13Conan O'Brien?

  Actually, that's exactly what mine looks like. Well, I'm sorry, but I was in an industrial accident when I was nine.

• 25:23Conan O'Brien?

  It was in a pumpkin patch that exploded. All right, Sam, we're gonna take off, but thank you so much. Take care.

• 25:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was nice meeting you all.

• 25:31Conan O'Brien?

  Really cool meeting you, Sam. Bye bye.

• 25:32Speaker 03

  Bye bye.

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