Pod Insights The Clark Howard Podcast 09.03.25 Clark’s Streaming Service Update / A Senior Facility Payment Warning About this episode Today - How Clark saved money solving his streaming dilemma just in time for football season. Also, paying for skilled nursing, assisted living, memory care and long-term care facilities only gets more costly & complicated. Clark has a warning for those trying to navigate the system. Streaming Update: Segment 1 Ask Clark: Segment 2 Senior Facility Payment Warning: Segment 3 Ask Clark: Segment 4 Mentioned on the show: Clark Howard Is Making These Changes to His Streaming TV Strategy Streaming TV Tool: Find Cheapest Way to Stream Your Favorite TV Channels Is the New Sling Select Subscription Tier Worth It? Clark.com - Streaming TV / How To Watch Local Channels Without Cable 4 Things To Know Before You Buy a TV Antenna Making Sense of the Disney, ESPN, Hulu and NFL Streaming TV Headlines 5 Things You Should Re-Shop To Save Money 3 Reasons You Should Never Book a Nonrefundable Hotel Room Automatic Bill Pay: How It Works and How To Do It Safely Clark.com resources Episode transcripts Community. Clark.com / Ask Clark Clark.com daily money newsletter Consumer Action Center Free Helpline: 636-492-5275 Learn more about your ad choices: megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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0:50 Speaker 03 It's great to have you here on the Clark Howard Show. You know, our mission is to serve you with advice and information that empowers you so you make better financial decisions in your life. And I'm going to begin today's show with an update on how I decided to work out my streaming TV dilemma. I realized I never explained what I did other than firing YouTube TV. And people want to know, how did I deal with my addiction to football? And lower my bills at the same time? And later, as more and more of us are living longer, paying for nursing home and long-term care is going to get even more complicated.
1:35 Speaker 03 If you have a loved one or you're helping a friend try to navigate the system, I've got something so important to warn you about as the helper or as the relative of the individual seeking care. But right now, the streaming update. So back in the spring, YouTube TV, which used to be a screaming deal, became so expensive, basically $83 a month base.
2:06 Speaker 03 So I dumped it. And when I went to dump it, they offered to roll back the price for a period of time. So I said, okay, I'll see what happens. So I went through that period of time. And then I dumped them again, and they didn't offer another retention deal. So then got rid of it. And so, okay, this is terrible. Maybe because it was summer, nobody noticed. Nobody noticed that we had no TV streaming service that was like traditional cable TV,
2:48 Speaker 03 which is kind of what YouTube TV, Hulu Live, Sling, and Fubo. There are all these things that kind of are their version of what people used to buy in a cable bundle. And so eventually, my wife said, weeks after I had disconnected YouTube TV, our YouTube TV is not working. I said, that's because I disconnected it. And she said, well, what are we going to do instead? So I went hunting and we looked at Philo. What I did is I went on our streaming guide tool at Clark.com. And I went through channels with her.
3:33 Speaker 03 I said, well, do you need this? Do you need that? And eventually, it turned out that the best deal we could do was Sling. And Sling is costing, if I remember right, 62 a month instead of the 83 a month with YouTube TV. And so far, so good. I've got my ESPN feeds and I bought a 50-mile range antenna for the TVs. And what I've discovered watching some college games is I'm getting a better picture for the games with the antenna than I can get through Sling TV.
4:16 Speaker 03 Or in some markets, Sling TV doesn't have all the local channels, but you're going to get them. With that antenna. And so the antenna sits behind the TVs. You don't see it and it pulls a strong signal. Now, the thing I did was I tried just a antenna, didn't pull enough signal. So then I looked at reviews online and I bought 50 mile range indoor antennas that just attach to each TV. And now I'm getting a fine signal of local channels, getting a lot more local channels I even knew existed. Then I've got the Dish Network, you know, the sling TV that's
4:59 Speaker 03 Dish Network digitally or streaming. And I've been fine. I have not renewed for the first time ever, I have not renewed NFL Sunday Ticket. I don't know how long I'm going to be able to hold out. I'm not having the shakes at all without NFL Sunday Ticket. It's not bothering me a bit. But maybe I'm going to end up with enough football, just with what I have available with my antenna and with what I'm able to get on sling. Do you think I'll make it? I mean, I've, I've been an NFL Sunday Ticket subscriber since the beginning of NFL Sunday Ticket.
5:42 Speaker 04 So I just entered an NFL like, I don't know what you call it. It's not a fancy football league, but Joe, super fan of the show. He got me into this thing where every week you pick the winning teams on the NFL games. Cause I wanted to care. I wanted a reason to care about the games. And so
5:58 Speaker 03 You have to be a gambler to care?
6:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
6:00 Speaker 03 Okay.
6:02 Speaker 04 And then each week, like, there's like, I don't know how many people in there, you, you can win like more than you put in for the whole season each week. If you get the games, the most games right. So we'll see. But what I did, I canceled my YouTube TV because I do not watch it. And
6:17 Speaker 03 You canceled yours also?
6:18 Speaker 04 I did. And I signed up with ESPN standalone service, which is
6:23 Speaker 03 Oh, $29 a month?
6:24 Speaker 04 Or 30, yeah, $30 a month.
6:26 Speaker 03 And for a year, you get Disney Plus and basic Hulu included.
6:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
6:33 Speaker 03 And after that, you'll pay who knows what.
6:36 Speaker 04 I won't. I won't. So we'll see what else is available then, I guess. But and I may cancel it after football season because I won't watch it.
6:43 Speaker 03 Because football is your life?
6:45 Speaker 04 Football's not my life, but I enjoy a college football Saturday.
6:48 Speaker 03 So you got a better deal if you don't think you're going to cancel the new ESPN bundle, which is the new standalone thing, if you pay a year upfront,
6:58 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
6:58 Speaker 03 which is $2.99 versus $29.99 a month. And so that means you're getting two months free
7:06 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
7:07 Speaker 03 out of 12. But doing what you're doing, if you're only doing it for football season, canceling at the end of the season would be a much cheaper option.
7:17 Speaker 04 Yeah. Okay, and of course, because I'm a flake, I need to put on my calendar when to cancel it.
7:23 Speaker 03 100% with any subscription, any streaming service.
7:27 Speaker 04 All right, we'll go to questions. James in Georgia says, "Hey Clark, I love football as much as you do."
7:32 Speaker 03 Because football is my life.
7:33 Speaker 04 "And my wife loves you more than we love football. We listen to the radio where you do segments too, and every weekday morning, she hears both your segments, and I wake up to see your face every Saturday morning while she catches up on your podcast from the week. She works hard to keep us on a Clark-approved budget, so we don't pay for TV except during football season. As much as it pained her, last year we subscribed to YouTube TV for five months because it was the best deal she could find for the NFL ticket and Red Zone. Help me out this year. What is the cheapest way to watch as many NFL games as possible without breaking the bank? Keep up the amazing work and go Falcons."
8:10 Speaker 03 So, again, the antenna is the cheapest show in town.
8:17 Speaker 04 But they want Sunday Ticket. Let's answer that one.
8:21 Speaker 03 Well, yeah, NFL Sunday Ticket.
8:23 Speaker 04 Is there the Amazon Prime deal still around? Remember you did that one year? Like, if you're a Prime member?
8:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, if you're a Prime member, then you get just the games that Amazon carries. You know, you look, I saw an article in USA Today showing if you wanted to watch all the games from your favorite team, how many different streaming services you would have to subscribe to over the course of a season to watch all of them. Now, the greatest way to get NFL Sunday Ticket is enroll full-time in college. Then you get it for the season for $109 instead of, is it $400 now? Something like that.
9:02 Speaker 04 So if you had a college student,
9:04 Speaker 03 If you had a college student.
9:05 Speaker 04 They might share their...
9:06 Speaker 03 If you had a college student...
9:09 Speaker 04 Which you happen to have, interestingly enough.
9:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, but he won't share his NFL Sunday ticket with me. Are you kidding? If Grant gets the $109 student deal, he's never giving me the username and password because only one person can watch at a time. But yeah, you got a college student or you can rent one from a friend. That's the cheapest way to get NFL Sunday ticket.
9:38 Speaker 04 All right.
9:40 Speaker 04 I've got a college student you can rent who doesn't watch the NFL, actually.
9:43 Speaker 03 He doesn't?
9:44 Speaker 04 No. Mark in West Virginia says, "My cable provider is recommending a $10 a month discount if I change my auto pay from credit card to checking account. This seems like a huge savings. What's the catch? Would you recommend it? For context, they offer a $5 a month discount of paying by debit card and no discount of paying with a credit card."
10:05 Speaker 03 So here's the catch. Everybody's trying to wean people off of using credit cards. And so for now, they'll offer you a $10 monthly discount if you link it to a checking account and have them automatically through ACH grab the money. So for now, it will save you the 120 a year. At some point, they won't let people pay by credit card at all, or they may surcharge credit cards. So I would say you grab the money you can get for now. And there is a slightly higher risk of financial shenanigans when you link your checking account than when you link a credit card.
10:50 Speaker 03 But the risk is low enough that I would take the $10 a month savings for as long as that's something you can do. But this is getting serious with merchants of all sizes saying, "No, we're not going to be ripped off by the Visa, MasterCard cartel anymore."
11:12 Speaker 03 And so we're going to either charge people more if they use a card, or give them a discount if they don't use a card, which is what's happening in this case. Because the credit card merchant fees are out of control because of the price fixing and collusion in the United States. And by the way, this doesn't happen elsewhere in the world. This is a US unique problem.
11:38 Speaker 04 Dan in Minnesota wrote in with this. Thanks for all the great work you do. You saved me a few hundred pounds on summer travel in the UK this year by reminding me to reshop my hotel reservations prior to departure. We raised a pint to you at a London pub in thanks. Recently, our family donated items that belonged to Claudette, a family member who had been living at a senior memory care facility. One of the items was a smart TV. A few months later, Claudette incurred about $50 in Amazon fees for various movie rentals and a monthly subscription to a karaoke channel.
12:15 Speaker 03 Really?
12:15 Speaker 04 We discovered-
12:16 Speaker 03 You don't want to hear me sing karaoke.
12:18 Speaker 04 Me either, unfortunately. I wish. We discovered that the donated television had an Amazon Prime app that was still registered to Claudette's Amazon account. We are chalking up the fees as an oversight. Hopefully, the new person using the TV enjoyed the movies and the karaoke. But please remind your listeners to deactivate any account logins to smart TV apps before donating an old television.
12:42 Speaker 03 100%. This happens over and over again, embedded in brand name TVs like a Samsung, or an LG, or a Vizio. Or it happens with things like Roku, an Amazon Fire TV, anything like that. If you do not wipe it clean, whoever gets that TV after you donate it, suddenly is streaming at your expense. And this is something I'm hearing more and more of. Because when you donate an old TV, you don't think to wipe it clean. When you donate a computer- You might drill the hard drive or whatever you do, you're certainly going to wipe it clean.
13:26 Speaker 03 But we don't think about smart TVs now, and all TVs are pretty much smart now. We don't think about them being essentially a computer and important information could be on it. So please wipe it clean. On the first thing you said about reshopping your hotel, this is something I do for air flights, car rentals, and hotels every single trip. And I know it seems like a lot of busy work, but I even, I think we posted a video on social media of me on a flight a couple of weeks ago, and I was going to two different cities on that trip.
14:09 Speaker 03 And on my flight, I had access to free Wi-Fi. And I reshopped my car rentals and I was getting the first one in just two hours. And the car rental price dropped like a rock for the first rental. And then I went, oh, well, I need another car two days from now. Let me reshop it. The car rental fell in half in price by shopping same day I got a much cheaper deal. So everybody's pushing you now to prepay or do non-refundable flights, hotel rooms, car rentals. With an airline flight, don't buy basic economy where you're stuck.
14:52 Speaker 03 Buy regular economy where you have the ability to at least get a credit at no cost, changing to a cheaper flight, or even rebooking cheaper on the flight you're already on. Reshop your hotel. Hotels push so hard, hey, we'll give you an extra 10% discount if you buy the hotel room non-refundable. Bad on so many levels, don't do it. Shop that hotel room again and again, refundable room rates. And you'll be amazed, if you'll do this consistently, how much money you'll save on all three phases of a typical trip by air, car rental, flight, hotel.
15:35 Speaker 03 And coming up ahead, there's something you gotta know that is a plague hitting people around the country. And it's when you're being a good Samaritan. Or a good relative, helping a friend or family member shop for a place to move when they need some form of assistance and care. Most often, it can be skilled nursing, memory care, or assisted living. There's something you gotta know.
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17:54 Speaker 03 Something that I've given warnings about for so long, I don't even know how long it's been, it is dishonest people at care facilities for senior citizens where you as an individual, maybe just a friend of the individual, have been helping them find the place they should go. And most often, it will be an adult child, or an adult daughter-in-law or son-in-law, who's helping a relative find a placement that's appropriate. And then you find the place you want to go to, you want them to live in. And there's a whole
18:34 Speaker 03 bunch of paperwork, a flurry of paperwork. And you need to know that over and over and over again, without realizing it, you as the person who's the shepherd, helping the individual find the place, taking them there, looking through the paperwork, and then they'll ask you to sign something. Remember, you're not the person who's moving in. You're just the person who was with them. They try to get you to sign paperwork that obligates you, when that individual can no longer afford their stay, that you become legally liable
19:15 Speaker 03 for the bills. It's despicable practice. So when you're there accompanying somebody, never sign anything. Hear me on this. You sign nothing. Now, I want to deal with consequences also is occurring. And this one, I've addressed based on questions we've gotten from people. So you have a relative, or you're the person listed on paperwork as the person to contact if something happens, you're a non-relative, but you're listed on the paperwork. And that individual passes away, or moves out of that facility for whatever reason.
20:01 Speaker 03 And then you start getting contacted by a collection agency trying to get you as a family member, or as that loving, caring friend, to pay their bills and dunning you, telling you, you are legally liable for them. Now, this is for somebody who signed nothing. You are not responsible for those bills. You are not liable for them, and you do not let anybody con you into paying one cent. You hear me on this? Not one cent. You don't let them con you. Now, there's another thing that confuses people. There are about,
20:43 Speaker 03 the thing is about half the nation states have laws on the books that are seldom actually enforced, that if you have a parent, you're an adult child, you have a parent who has lived in a facility, and they are impoverished, and the parent ends up on the state Medicaid program. There are laws on the books in a number of states, again, seldom enforced, that going back to English common law, hold you responsible as an adult child, or if there's multiple children, you're all held liable for the state's costs, for the Medicaid
21:27 Speaker 03 coverage that the state provided, for your parents, late parents' care in a facility, a nursing home, whatever. Now, it is theoretically possible, and you can look up on a search, whatever your search engine you use, or AI tool, you can see whether the state that your parent resides in has a law on the books, holding adult children responsible. You can also research, are they actually enforcing it? That's the one circumstance where it could be a legitimate demand of money from an adult child for the care of a parent,
22:06 Speaker 03 when you have pulled on, the parent has needed state resources to pay for their care. That's a lot to spit out, isn't it?
22:15 Speaker 04 It's so much to navigate, navigating this with my parents right now. So, there's a lot I'm learning, and I'm going to try to share a lot of what I'm learning on Clark.com soon.
22:26 Speaker 03 That's awesome.
22:27 Speaker 04 And then we'll do some on the podcast, too. Irene in Alabama says, Clark, can you talk about what to look for in senior housing options? I want to live around other active seniors where I can have community and support as I grow older, but I hesitate getting stuck in a CCRC, unable to move if it's not properly managed.
22:47 Speaker 03 You and I have talked so much with each other about CCRCs.
22:52 Speaker 04 Continuing care retirement community.
22:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, I have a relative that I recently helped move into a CCRC. You have been doing a lot of that for a relative. And continuing care retirement community, the way it tends to work is they're geared towards more affluent senior citizens. And you move into an amenities oriented facility, campus if you will, that tends to have on it semi-independent living and mid-rise or your own townhouse kind of thing.
23:29 Speaker 04 Cottage.
23:30 Speaker 03 Cottage, yeah. And then when you need it, on the campus, they will have.
23:35 Speaker 04 Assisted living.
23:36 Speaker 03 Assisted living, nursing care, or memory care.
23:38 Speaker 04 And then memory, yeah.
23:40 Speaker 03 The biggest ones have all three of the more acute care kind of facilities. You have to buy in.
23:48 Speaker 04 Not always.
23:50 Speaker 03 Well, that's what I'm going to get to.
23:52 Speaker 04 Okay.
23:53 Speaker 03 The business model geared towards more affluent people is you buy in at a most common figure of somewhere around a million dollars to buy in. Depending on the facility, it could be much more than that. I was talking to a friend, or less, talking to a friend who a relative just spent $3.1 million, yeah, buying into a CCRC.
24:22 Speaker 04 And I know of someone who's spent $300,000.
24:25 Speaker 03 That's right. It's all over the board. These CCRCs, if they go bust, you lose all that money. And you may not have a place to live anymore.
24:36 Speaker 04 And the money, depending on how much you put in in the plan at the CCRC, if you leave, you can get up to like some-
24:43 Speaker 03 Eighty percent.
24:43 Speaker 04 Eighty percent back, or-
24:45 Speaker 03 Fifty percent.
24:46 Speaker 04 Or zero percent. If you pay a lower fee, you might, or your estate gets it.
24:50 Speaker 03 In other words, these are very complicated. And it's why you want to pay someone who is an expert at this to find the appropriate facility. But this, again, only is for people that are very wealthy. Because if you take everything you've got, and you put it into the buy-in to one of these CCRCs, and the place goes bust, the experience again and again and again, all your money's gone. You, all your life savings, whatever you made from selling your house, all that. And then you're, where are you going to go next? The alternative that your relatives are doing is they're going in a place geared towards the middle class that there's no buy-in.
25:34 Speaker 04 Well, it's, it's definitely, you have to have a lot of monthly income to do a place like they're looking at. So there's different levels. But this one has pretty much all the amenities of the beautiful CCRCs we've toured as well. But you have a high monthly rent to be in this facility. But it's like you're renting, you can get out at any time. You pay like basically one month down to get in on the rent. But then the rent might include a couple of meals a day. And so-
26:00 Speaker 03 And, and a lot of the amenities and classes and exercise and that sort of thing included in them. So this is an area that is very hard to navigate. And that's why I like- For you to hire a navigator to help you. Now, the navigators come in two flavors. Ones that you pay who operate as a fiduciary, who are working legally, fully for you. And there are others that will navigate for you for free. But they work based on commission from the facilities. And so you have that inherent conflict of interest.
26:42 Speaker 03 You have to have the most Florence Nightingale kind of person who's not charging you a fee, who is not just recommending the place that pays them the highest commission.
26:53 Speaker 04 And there are lots of people out there who are legitimate, who care. But yeah, just like any other thing, you might have, say you get a real estate agent, you know, do they want to steer you to the most expensive house? Or the house that's right for you?
27:07 Speaker 03 Right. And so this is an area that the financial decision you make at that point can be critical. And that's why you need to be really, really careful. And I hope that we did a good job, Irene, answering your question. And one thing, a lot of Americans who don't have large resources available are actually going outside the United States for senior care. There's a big movement of people to various countries, Mexico and other places in Central America, where your dollar goes so much further. And the care in many cases is more personal
27:52 Speaker 03 than it's going to be in the United States because of the forever labor shortages for this kind of care in the U.S.
28:00 Speaker 04 Carrie in Idaho says, "I recently decided to purchase a medical vibration platform to help with osteoporosis, muscle tightness, lymphatic drainage, et cetera. The brand that was recommended by two friends who own them didn't have the most amazing reviews online, customer service issues. But it does say it has a lifetime warranty. Since it's about a $400 purchase, I don't want to throw money away. My question, which would offer?" For more consumer protection, buying directly from the company or buying through Amazon? And would this answer be true for most purchases?
28:33 Speaker 03 So, Amazon used to be the automatic answer, that Amazon was there for you when you bought something. But Amazon is not as helpful as they used to be with third-party sellers, which almost everything on Amazon now is a third-party seller. So if the reviews online for customer service are mediocre, I would read what Amazon says where you purchase it, what they say about how returns are done, that sort of thing. But if Amazon's kind of non-committal about it and you do want to buy this brand, I would definitely buy it through Amazon instead of from the company itself,
29:18 Speaker 03 because then you do have a chance, what you're saying, you're saying there's a chance?
29:23 Speaker 04 Saying there's a chance.
29:24 Speaker 03 That you may get an additional layer of help in the event that you do have a problem with the product and the company itself is not helping you as their warranty says they would and should.
29:39 Speaker 04 And just hate to be negative, but we had someone who wrote in about refrigerator she bought on Amazon. She works with autistic, it turns out, adults. We thought it was children on the show. And she went back to Amazon and they're not helping her because I think the company offered a replacement fridge, but like she couldn't choose the color, which, you know, and some other things. So, Amazon kind of told her to pound sand.
30:00 Speaker 03 Yeah, I mean, Amazon is not who they were before. They're not in the hungry, help the customer, we don't care if we make money kind of phase. Now they're all about using their market share as muscle, and that's just the fact.
30:17 Speaker 04 Ray in California says, I own a 2016 Honda Clarity. Is that right?
30:21 Speaker 03 Yup.
30:22 Speaker 04 Whose EV mileage range has reduced from its original 42 miles to a current 32 mile range.
30:28 Speaker 03 Sounds like a leaf.
30:30 Speaker 04 Yes, yes.
30:30 Speaker 03 Nissan Leaf.
30:31 Speaker 04 Fearing a further range reduction, I'm considering selling the car valued at approximately $17,000.
30:37 Speaker 03 What?
30:38 Speaker 04 I know, that's high. But also I'm considering giving the car to my 18-year-old niece.
30:42 Speaker 03 No.
30:43 Speaker 04 The car is in very good condition, but my niece would not have access to electric charging and would be only able to use the gas option to run the vehicle. Would this be a good use of this hybrid? Or would we be better off selling and buying her a vehicle that better fits her needs?
30:57 Speaker 03 It's the second one. Sell it and use the money to buy something else for your niece.
31:05 Speaker 04 Okay, that's a simple thing.
31:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
31:07 Speaker 04 Also, they say the car is paid off and I've already replaced it with a 2025 Prius.
31:13 Speaker 03 It's funny how the Prius was kind of given up for dead for a while. Prius is hot again. Do you know that it's extremely hard to find a Prius available to buy in the United States right now?
31:28 Speaker 04 Wow.
31:28 Speaker 03 People are really into buying them again because they average, I think, like 56 miles a gallon or something. So it's half of what a typical electric vehicle equivalent would be. But it's also cheaper than the typical electric vehicle. So...
31:48 Speaker 04 I have some bad news. I stink. Everyone's gonna be upset. But Friday, we're not gonna do a Clark stinks because you have...
31:54 Speaker 03 Well, there's a... You don't blame yourself.
31:56 Speaker 04 It's okay. I made this...
31:58 Speaker 03 It's the calendar.
31:58 Speaker 04 I made the decision because we didn't do a show on Monday.
32:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:01 Speaker 04 And there are so many questions that we need to get to, so...
32:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, so since Monday, Labor Day, I was goofing off. We did... You weren't goofing off. I was goofing off.
32:11 Speaker 04 Oh, I goofed off, sure.
32:12 Speaker 03 So I took Labor Day off. So that means what we sacrificed was Clark stinks. So basically Friday is Monday in this case. They were doing a normal...
32:25 Speaker 04 Okay.
32:26 Speaker 03 A normal podcast, not Clark Stinks.
32:29 Speaker 04 But we'll be back the following week.
32:31 Speaker 03 With?
32:31 Speaker 04 With the Clark Stinks.
32:32 Speaker 03 With Clark Stinks. So, I mean, they're going to pile up, Krista. What are you going to do?
32:37 Speaker 04 I know, but the questions have been piling up because we do a higher percentage of Clark Stinks than we ever did in terms of content since you went to three days a week.
32:46 Speaker 03 You never let me get past my guilt.
32:48 Speaker 04 No, I think it's great that you did that. I want you to enjoy your life and have balance. I think it's wonderful that you're doing the podcast, for sure. You're projecting. That's called projection.
33:00 Speaker 03 Oh, so work-life balance is, is out of style right now. You know that?
33:05 Speaker 04 No, it's not.
33:07 Speaker 03 According to corporate America, they're only looking for people who want to spend 168 hours a week being committed to the employer. That it's like their revenge for what they feel like they got taken advantage of with remote work the last few years. But anyway, I digress. Friday, normal podcast. Following Friday, back to Clark Stinks. And know what we're all about. We're about you learning ways to save more, spend less, and avoid getting ripped off. And see you on Friday.
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