The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Squatch in Daga by Cindy Mauro Reisenauer

Squatch in Daga by Cindy Mauro Reisenauer https://www.amazon.com/Squatch-Daga-Cindy-Mauro-Reisenauer/dp/1954264089 Returning to the idyllic Adirondack Mountain, newlyweds Kat and Dillon Walker learn of an escalating crisis in the dense forests surrounding their Great Lake Sacandaga home. Hikers are being hunted by an unknown assailant, and a vicious attack in the nearby village is tied to unsolved area disappearances. For Dillon, whispers of monsters lurking in the nearby woods reveal a long-buried secret, jeopardizing the new life he and Kat have begun to build. Having survived last year's shark attacks, all their hopes of a peaceful summer fade away as Kat and Dillon's growing connection to the attacks puts them in greater peril. As the danger deepens, it falls to them to unravel this mystery before more of their loved ones fall prey to the elusive Squatch in Daga.

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  Hey folks, Voss here from the ChrisVossShow.com. Ladies and gentlemen, there on this season of the Mix Official, welcome to Big Show for 18 years and nearly 3,000, well, 3,000 episodes we've been bringing the Chris Voss Show, the oldest living podcast that still broadcasts one or two new shows every single day. Today's featured author comes to us from BookstalifeMarketing.co.uk. With expert publishing to strategic marketing, they help authors reach their audience and maximize their book's success. Today we had amazing lady on the show with us today. Her book is entitled Squatch in Daga by Cindy Morrow-Ryzenhour. We're going to get into her and all of her

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  details and find out to some of the other books she's writing as well, or written as well. So we'll do that. Cindy, welcome to the show. How are you?

• 1:25Speaker 02

  Hi, Chris. Thank you for having me.

• 1:27Speaker 01

  Thank you for coming. Really appreciate it. Give us your dot coms. Where can people find you on the interwebs?

• 1:32Speaker 02

  Cindy Morrow-Ryzenhour.com.

• 1:35Speaker 01

  Okay. And so Cindy, give us a 30,000 overview. What's inside your book, please?

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  Squatch in Daga transforms a folk legend into a story that involves relationships, courage, and determination to protect those we love most. It's, it takes place in the magnificent Adirondack Mountains where promises of a peaceful summer turn into a life-threatening situation. It's, it's in the immense forest. It takes what's familiar and it turns it into a landscape of uncertainty where every, where every, how do you put it? Every shadow holds a secret and, and every rustle in the forest could signal danger. It's also an epic love story besides even your grand adventure. It involves Kat and Dylan Walker, their newlywed couple. They are exactly where they want to be, surrounded by those they love. Their

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  happiness is threatened by forces they don't quite understand. And when they go looking for answers, they find some, they uncover some dark secrets and they realize that everything they love is in jeopardy. And it's for them to, to find a way to fix things.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  Now, is this a sequel to your book Shark in Daga?

• 2:42Speaker 02

  There's a connection because it's, it's the same char, many of the same characters, same setting, and but it's its own separate adventure. But there is a similarity. They're both roller coaster thrill rides. So if you like a good adventure, I think you'll like both of them.

• 2:57Speaker 01

  Now, I think you have at least two other books that I see here on, on, or no, hold on. Yeah, that is yours. Okay. Yeah. On, on Amazon. Are these two other ones tied to the Squatch in Daga and Shark in Daga? Or are they standalones?

• 3:11Speaker 02

  They're standalones. One, The Knowing Alex, Life with the Genesis of the Corpus Colossum, is a memoir.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  Okay. And is Alex your husband or relation?

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  My son. He's my son.

• 3:23Speaker 01

  Your son? Oh, cool. You're writing books with your son. That's a good way to get them started in the right direction. With the Squatch, so kind of the similar characters going on, is this a series that you see further coming along with these characters and maybe the same sort of scenario in Daga?

• 3:41Speaker 02

  It's been so much fun to write them. I'm toying with a third. They take a while to write, but it's, it's, it's great fun. There's a third in the works. I don't know when or how, but it's coming.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  It's coming. So stay tuned, folks. Subscribe to our newsletter on our website. They, now the, I guess the Daga is short for Great Lake Sacandaga? Am I pronouncing it? Sakanda?

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  Yes.

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  Sacandaga. Is there, is there a real place called that somewhere? Or did you fictionalize it?

• 4:12Speaker 02

  Two lakes. One is Lake Sacandaga and one is the Great Lake Sacandaga. The, the title made sense with Shark in Daga because we had friends up at the lake and one got bit by something in the lake. So she was referring to it as the Shark in Daga. So I said, that's a great title. I might take that. So the story rose up around the title.

• 4:33Speaker 01

  Ah, title first, then everything comes together. So, and so how many books have you written total? I see four here on Amazon.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  There's Emerita, which was a picture book. There's Line by Line, Everyone Can Draw Dinosaurs, another picture book. And then there's Knowing Alex, Shark in Daga, now Squatch in Daga.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  All right. We're just going through all the things. Maybe you can do the Loch Ness Monster next in Daga.

• 4:58Speaker 02

  I have to go to Scotland and do lots of research.

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  That's true, huh? That's a great way to get a free vacation there. You're doing research. You can write it off.

• 5:07Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. I love to research.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  So why did you pick a married couple, newlyweds, instead of maybe some other choices you could have done? There's no right or wrong choice here, but I'm just curious why you decided to ruin a newlywed's honeymoon, not?

• 5:21Speaker 02

  They, they didn't start out as newlyweds. In Shark in Daga, they meet as, as actually teenagers. And they, there's a very intense, brief relationship. And then there's a heartbreaking parting, which goes along with teenage love. And they reunite years later when, when the woman, when Kat returns to the lake and she's had a life-threatening incident and she goes to recuperate, recover, find the new direction in her life. And when she's strolling along the beach, she finds evidence of a brutal crime. And when she calls for help, Dylan's the one that answers. And that sort of rekindles their relationship.

• 5:56Speaker 01

  Ah, the love story, and I guess, I get, maybe that's a good way to do team building in your early relationships to, to solve mysteries, maybe.

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  Or prevent each other from being eaten by a shark.

• 6:08Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. That's, that's, that's always high on my list, too. I'm always, but I don't know. If, if I was in a relationship, I'd have to evaluate if we had to decide which one of us is going to eat by the shark by how well they're behaving. And it's kind of like when the bear is chasing, you always trip the fat guy because both, it's a win-win for both parties. Or it's a party years running, let's put it that way. So, you know, and the bear gets a great meal because you don't want to eat, you don't want the bear eating a skinny guy. So, but yeah, it's good. It's good. Probably good family building. Maybe they want to end up in divorce court if they learn to solve mysteries and survive what's coming after them.

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  You hope not. You hope not. That's a terrible place to be.

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  I don't want to blow the middle or the ending, which you can't in novels. Is this involve Sasquatch in any shape or form? Or can we talk about that?

• 6:57Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Some people call it Bigfoot. I just called it Sasquatch because it flowed better with Indaga. But yeah, there, it was very much, there's a lot of, there's a lot of talk of in the Adirondacks, it's immense and isolated that there are, some believe there are Sasquatch that live there.

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  Ah, yeah.

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  There's a, there's actually a town, Whitehall, where they have a festival every year. And there's been documentaries and books written about accounters people have had in Whitehall and, and other places, Speculator in Wells and Old Forge, many places in the Adirondacks.

• 7:27Speaker 01

  Wow. So I have a 13 to 14 inch foot. One foot's bigger than the other. So if I ever want to be Bigfoot, I just wake up in the morning, look at my feet. Yeah, I'd say, I've been, I've been fascinated with that mystery since I was a kid. I think when the first, was it the first announcers or the first sightings of it came out, they had that famous picture, the black and white picture that looks sketch. And yeah, and so it's, it's always been a mystery, but I think technically I've been alive for 58 years. Shouldn't they have found it by now? But maybe that's, yeah, that's what makes a good mystery, a good mystery. You can never solve it.

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  Although sometimes it takes a while. I know when they, they discovered in the mid 1800s, people that didn't live in Central Africa, they'd heard about the wild man in the woods in the jungle. And it turns out it was a gorilla. But at the time, they just thought it was a legend. So you just never know when or if.

• 8:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. I saw, I saw, I saw Robin Williams once with that shirt and he looked like a gorilla. So it's possible that it could have been a man in the. He was one of those guys that had just carpet for, for body hair.

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  Yeah, yeah.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then, so hopefully this will maybe turn into a series for you. People fall in love with characters and they love to follow them. And we have the Clancy folks on and the Jack Ryan and Jack Ryan Jr. And then there's the, who's the Matt Damon one? I get confused. There's so many of the people that are doing it. And, and people just love following these characters. They love being involved with them. They love seeing them involved. They love following their story. It's really interesting how people are that way. I don't know if you found the same.

• 9:06Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, it's like visiting old friends. You enjoy being with them for their adventure and then you hope that you get to go back.

• 9:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a great analogy. It's just like visiting old friends. You know, what's that old line from Cheers, the TV show? You wanna, you wanna go where everybody knows your name?

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  Absolutely.

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  Being comfortable. How do your characters come to you? Do you have to spend a lot of time developing on them? Or do they haunt you and pester you to get you to write about them? Some people have that kind of experience.

• 9:35Speaker 02

  The way, it, it had changes. It started with Shark and Daga and once we had the name, I, I wanted to, I said, who would they be? And what would be the scenario? And the names just come. And once you have the names and the setting and the direction, the characters write their own story. They're just here to write it down for them. So they, they tell their, they tell their tale.

• 9:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. I wish they would just write the story for me and then just hand me the manuscript and I can turn it in. That would, that would be, I'd just do a little bit editing, change the periods and commas and put a big V end at the end.

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  Grammar's tough.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm stealing, I'm stealing from Get Shorty at this point in the movie. There's a scene in it where he goes, "Ah, there's nothing to write in manuscripts at all. You just make sure and put the commas and the periods in the right place and put a big V end and wrap it up like a bow and that's it.

• 10:25Speaker 02

  Oh, I wish it were that easy.

• 10:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know. It was a great line from Get Shorty. And, and then John Travolta says, "So if it's that easy, what do I need you for?" Oh. So yeah, there's, there's a lot of authors that their, their characters come to them and actually annoy them into writing about them. They're, they're almost stalkerish, I guess, for some people. But when I write business books, it's just really factual and real stories. And it's a little, it's a little, it's a, I don't know, sometimes, what is it? Reality is stranger than fiction.

• 10:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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  And how long have you been writing? When did you start? When did you kind of have this feeling that, "I think I kind of have a knack for this?"

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  I always wanted to, I wanted to be a photojournalist. And then to combine writing with, with photography. Life Magazine growing up was my favorite.

• 11:10Speaker 01

  Oh.

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  National Geographic. And then I, things changed, but it was something that always stayed. And whenever there was a quiet moment, you'd sit down and write a story. And since I like, I, I draw, it always came, words and pictures were an easy, an easy reunion. And then from that, once I started writing the children's books, it expanded once with the memoir, Knowing Alex. And then, then we came down to Shark and Daga. It was really my first attempt at writing fiction.

• 11:38Speaker 01

  Oh, Shark and Daga.

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  Shark and Daga.

• 11:41Speaker 01

  Now, so you think you might have a third book out. Let's talk a little bit about the, the other book, the shark version that was preceded this. Tell us a little about that. Is this like, uh, Jaws meets a future newlywed couple? Or how's it work?

• 11:56Speaker 02

  No, there was, it was a

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  bad deal. It was a, it was a business deal gone bad and revenge.

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  Ah, revenge.

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  And, and that's how the shark found its way to a lake.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  That's not connected to any saltwater body or tributary.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  Ah, so, somebody put a shark in there.

• 12:18Speaker 02

  Pretty much had to.

• 12:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. Did your friend, did your friend who got bitten by something, she maybe thought it was a shark? Or was it, sharks leave pretty good teeth marks?

• 12:26Speaker 02

  No, it was probably a carp or, or a pike, which was bad enough. But it got her attention.

• 12:32Speaker 01

  That'll definitely get your attention. When I used to be a kid growing up on the beach in Santa Monica, back then in the seventies, you'd go into the water and you'd have glass and beer cans and, I don't know, probably needles. I don't know. I don't think I ever saw any needles, but we saw a lot of beer cans, pop cans. Just everything was in there, tires, you name it. You'd walk through the sand and you're just like, I don't know what I just stepped on, but I'm just gonna keep moving. If I can. And yeah, so you know, you never know. But yeah, they definitely get your, they definitely get your attention when something happens in the water and you're like, you can't, you can't figure it out. And so this is set in the same area, same scenario, city, I guess, and lake?

• 13:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's on, in the Adirondacks. It's, it's, actually it's a reservoir. It's 26 miles long. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful place to be. And the contrast between the danger of the shark or the danger of the Sasquatch in the woods, is that it's in contrast to the beauty that you're surrounded by. It's not a dangerous place and it is.

• 13:33Speaker 01

  Sounds like every girlfriend I ever had. Beautiful and dangerous. Don't, don't, don't get bitten. Or your face ripped off by Sasquatch. Mind your manners. But yeah. And then, when did you start writing the shark book?

• 13:47Speaker 02

  That happened about, I think probably around COVID. So it was about COVID.

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  COVID was such a great book. Authorship, period. It was, it was so great. I've, I've almost been joking, because we, we used to have all these, tons of book authors on. And now it's leaned out a little bit, because everyone's working. And I'm just like, can we do another COVID? That was cool, all the book authors, you know. A lot of people became new authors from COVID. So there was a lot, there was something good out of that darkness.

• 14:15Speaker 02

  It was, yeah. It was go to work, come home and couldn't go anywhere. So it was just a really, a quiet time.

• 14:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, definitely. Maybe we need more quiet times. It was harder on some other people. They went home and went, "I really don't like you. I just, I've been able to stay married to you all these years, but that's because I can escape for eight hours a day or 10 hours a day."

• 14:39Speaker 01

  And now that I, now that I'm living with you 24/7 during COVID, I stay working. So there was a lot of that that went on. A lot of divorces that came out of it. But maybe that was a good thing. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe people were just living quiet lives of desperation and stuff. And then is it, I guess you're, we write what we know. That's the thing we usually talk about with authors and pending, and potential authors that we give away instructions or data on the show. You write, you tend to write what you know. I guess you're pretty familiar with that part of the woods?

• 15:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, we, we've, we've got a family home there.

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  Oh, do you?

• 15:17Speaker 02

  Most of my life. So we spent a great deal of time there. Also, my husband's a backpacker, so we, he's done the Northfield Lake Placid Trail, which is 133 miles through the wilderness 11 times. And because of that, we want to take our grandson to the trailhead when he was a newborn. And symbolically sign him into the trail registry and take him onto the trail. And when we did that, we had a really odd experience that sort of piqued my interest in things that shouldn't be in the forest. Because everything, the sound shut down. It was the weirdest sensation. The two dogs we had with us were howling in fear. And we only were about 50 feet in and we said, "Something's wrong. We have to leave." And we stepped off the trail. And everything resumed,

• 16:00Speaker 02

  sound resumed normally. The dogs stopped screaming. And that was the oddest sensation I've ever had. So that, that was another thing. It's like you store these experiences and you say, "Oh, maybe I can use that."

• 16:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. Get lots of crazy experiences in the, doing things like that and traveling and stuff. Yeah. He did the, that 130 miles 11 times, did you say?

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. It takes you through some of the most remote country in the eastern part of the United States.

• 16:28Speaker 01

  Has, has he ever met the TV? You can just sit and just get entertained?

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  He's probably healthier than the rest of us who do. So he's, he's living his best life and getting out there in the sunshine with the vitamin D. But I don't know, that's a, that's a hell of a hobby. It's a lot of walking.

• 16:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, only, only 33 miles a day.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  Only 33? Oh, yeah, sure. No, only three. I'm not sure I do 33 miles a year.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  If I do, what is it? Is it 10,000 steps a day or a thousand? I think it's 10,000 steps a day. If you do 10,000 steps, then that's like a miracle.

• 17:04Speaker 02

  That's pretty good.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  And then I'm gonna be erect the next day going, "I can't feel my legs." But I wonder how many miles 10,000 steps is. I should look it up. You, you're writing quite a lot of variances, but it sounds like maybe you've settled in on a, on this particular genre these two books are about. Is that a good assessment or?

• 17:22Speaker 02

  It's where I'm at right now. I'm still working on, I have some children's books that I've started and halfway finished. So it depends on the mood. But once I started writing, once I started with Shark and Daga and certainly Squatch and Daga, it, you say, I stayed with it. And I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the writing process. I enjoyed the editing. So if I don't get distracted by anything else, I hope to pursue the third book without.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  And this book, what age group was this book targeted to? Both these sharks and the Sas, and the Squatch?

• 17:55Speaker 02

  Probably young adult through adult.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  Like teens, maybe?

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  Teens through adult, yeah.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. I remember when I was a teen, I loved those, was it Tom and Hardy books? I'm thinking of Laurel and Hardy.

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  Yeah.

• 18:09Speaker 01

  Tom, it was, they were the two young guys. And I think the girls had another one. There was a, a gal who did mystery books and she would solve them. And Nancy Drew, thank you. Thank you, Nancy Drew. The, so they had theirs. And they were really popular. Just really popular. And, and really fun to read. And especially when you had a whole pile of them, because you could just, you just blast through them and absorb them. But it's the same concept of why we put out one to two new shows a day. If you give people content that they'll, they like, then they'll keep absorbing it. But if you don't give them a regular injection drip of, of adrenaline and fun, they're gonna go find it someplace else on their podcast or another book. Having these series, people love reading

• 18:51Speaker 01

  the series and following them and they binge them. Just like they binge us, they binge Netflix. People love that stuff. They just eat it up when they find something they like. And, and sometimes having more than one, because there's sometimes where I watch a movie and I'd be like, that'd be, it'd be great if they had a sequel to it. Like Godfather was that way for a while. And then there's some movies. But then sometimes a sequel's Hollywood makes her just, you're just like, that really didn't need to happen.

• 19:17Speaker 01

  But you know, being as you're the book author for your books, you have control of probably Hollywood. You gotta trust some guy with the money in the back room or whatever. So what more about your books and writing? Should I be asking you? Maybe you left something off the table.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  Just that I think you should, you have to write what, as you said, what you know. Write what interests you, because if you're interested, your audio, audience will be interested. You hope. And, and don't be afraid to try new things.

• 19:42Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 19:43Speaker 02

  You know, stepping from children's books into more adult writing was a stretch initially. And then it was okay. Found I could do it. It was fine.

• 19:54Speaker 01

  Yeah. Developing characters. And I imagine once you have that skill set down of developing plots, subplots, characters, learning to flesh them out over the period of the writing of the book, and developing them so that they become more in-depth to the reader. Once you can master that, you're, you're, after that, you're just messing with scenarios, setups, and looking for inspiration of, of maybe titles or, or scenarios. And, and then just take it from there. And you've, now you've built the process too, where you can make all your books in Daga. You can have Loch Ness Monster next, and Aliens, fourth book. I'm just.

• 20:32Speaker 02

  Some people think Sasquatches are aliens.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  Oh, don't, don't tell anyone. That's the secret. That's why we can't find them most of the times. They're, they're, they're gone.

• 20:42Speaker 02

  Traveling portals.

• 20:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. Everybody knows that, right? I thought so. Anyway, just the people listening to this podcast, I think we're, don't start a religion off by conspiracy theories, folks. I'm just having fun with you, just making jokes.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Oh, no, there's, in the Sasquatch world, there's a difference of opinion.

• 21:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  And you don't offend anybody.

• 21:05Speaker 01

  Is, is that place you mentioned that has a Sasquatch, I think, festival, you said? Is that, there's, there's, I know I've seen, like, there's a place you can go somewhere in America, and they have a big Sasquatch store where you can buy Sasquatch stuff. And they have, I think, a museum of lore, or something. Is that the same area?

• 21:25Speaker 02

  It could be. I'm not sure. But White Hole does have a festival every year. I believe it's in September.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. Do a lot of people go dress as Sasquatch just to confuse people?

• 21:36Speaker 02

  I think they do.

• 21:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. Like, if I was Sasquatch, I'd go to it, but I'd dress up like a human or something different. You ever seen how the Hollywood stars will dress up as their characters in the movies? And they'll go to Comic Con, where everyone dresses up as characters. And they just fit right in. They can say hi to people and they can, no one has any idea they're a movie star. That's what Sasquatch should do. He should just show up at the festival. And that, or, that, or he should announce himself. Wouldn't that be great? Because then you get, like, free popcorn and beer, and everyone worship you. Oh, it's a great Sasquatch. I'd just start my own cult of Sasquatch. I'd be like, lo and behold, give me 10% of all your money. And then he's, he's, he's, they carry around a throne, all

• 22:18Speaker 01

  that good stuff. I think, I think Sasquatch is missing out on some, from merch and branding. But maybe you can entice him with your books to come out of the woods.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  That would be lovely. In addition to White Hole, in, not recently, they had the second New York State Sasquatch Convention, or Bigfoot Convention, which actually, a lot of scientists attended. So there's this whole lightheartedness and this very serious aspect to the, the study of Bigfoot or Sasquatch.

• 22:48Speaker 01

  There you go. They got, there's one in 2027, I believe, the Ohio Bigfoot Conference. And there's a great Florida Bigfoot Conference. And there's Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference. And why would there be a Florida one? I don't, has Sasquatch ever been seen in Florida? I thought he was, like, in the Northwest.

• 23:10Speaker 02

  It might be Skunk Ape. I think Skunk Ape might be what they're called.

• 23:13Speaker 01

  Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Maybe it's just an alligator that got really hairy or something. I don't know. But, I don't know, maybe, maybe, maybe there's just, maybe I'm just misunderstanding Bigfoot. A lot of people do vacation in Florida. And maybe that's where he goes. He needs a break from Portland. Like, we all do. So as we go out, give people a final pitch out to pick up your books, your dot coms, and what they can find on your website, et cetera, et cetera.

• 23:40Speaker 02

  I just wanted to announce that Squatch and Daga is going to be presented by Books to Life Marketing at the London Book Fair, 27, in March. You can find me and my books at cindymorrowisenhour.com. And, and if you're looking for a roller coaster thrill ride, Squatch and Daga and Shark and Daga would be wonderful. You have a wonderful time reading them. They're, they're a great adventure.

• 24:07Speaker 01

  You know how there was Mothra and Godzilla? And they would fight each other? Maybe you should do in the third book, you should do a Squatch and Daga versus Shark and Daga. And they, and they go at it, just like the, the Godzilla movies. That'd be, that might be something there.

• 24:22Speaker 02

  That is an excellent idea.

• 24:24Speaker 01

  I can, I can see Sasquatch wrestling the shark. And sharks, ah, maybe he's a land shark, too. He comes on land and fights Sasquatch. But he, I don't know, what's Mothra do? He blows fire? Or is that, oh, Godzilla blows fire? I can't remember what Mothra blows. But, yeah, they can have a whole thing. And people in the, people in the, you could have maybe some Japanese people for a funny scene that, that go, oh, my God, Squatch! Or something like they do. Godzilla! Godzilla! Anyway, that's my fun, folks. Thank you very much, Cindy, for coming to the show. We really appreciate it. And I think you gave me your dot coms right there, didn't we?

• 24:59Speaker 02

  I did.

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  Okay. So folks, check that out. And there'll be a link for dot coms and the website for the book on the Chris Voss Show as well. Pick up her book, found wherever fine books are sold, Squatch and Daga. And also check out Shark and Daga and her other stuff. See, there's somebody on here who's got Bigfoot, Bigfoot versus Yeti, Clash of the Cryptids, here on Amazon. So maybe the setting for the Squatch and Shark. All right, folks, thanks for tuning in. Go to Goodreads.com for Chris Voss, LinkedIn.com for Chris Voss, YouTube.com for Chris Voss, and all those crazy places in the internet. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you guys next time.