The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Live Engaged: How to Tap Into Your Divine Feminine & Unlock Your Superpower by Erem Latif

Live Engaged: How to Tap Into Your Divine Feminine & Unlock Your Superpower by Erem Latif https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FWYLTYC7 Eremlatif.com Engagementlab.com Women make up almost 50% of the global population. We are not only leaders, innovators, entrepreneurs, healers, and mothers but at our core, we are also divine creators; yet so many of us feel disconnected from our True Selves. In a world that often asks us to fit into molds that were never designed for us, it’s time to step into our Power and rewrite the rules, especially now. In this groundbreaking book, you’ll embark on a journey to align your mind, body, and soul through a unique blend of spiritual wisdom and proven, cutting-edge science. Learn how to tap into your Sacred Feminine, optimize your energetics and frequency, and create heart-brain coherence to live a life of authenticity, abundance, joy, and radiant health. Through practical tools, transformative exercises, and deeply personal insights, readers will discover: Why awareness is the first step to unlocking your human potential. The secrets to creating a personalized health and wellness blueprint, leveraging time-honored tools of meditation, breathwork, frequency healing, somatic therapy, to name a few. How to imbue your lives with purpose and soul alignment in order to to transform your life experience and excel at all your personal and professional goals. How to cultivate your true power and magnetism, becoming the light that inspires others. This book will guide you HOME—to yourself, your dreams, and the limitless possibilities that await you. Engage with your life. Engage with your dreams. Engage with the Divine within you. Your Superpower is glowing. Will you let her SHINE? About the author Erem Latif is a medically trained neurophysiologist, best-selling author, international speaker, educator, and executive coach who empowers leaders, women, and seekers to align science and soul for peak performance and purpose-driven living. With more than 20 years of experience in human performance design, whole health optimization, and transformational leadership, she is recognized as a global thought leader at the intersection of neuroscience, quantum leadership, and conscious business strategy. As the CEO and Founder of Engagement Lab, Erem has pioneered patented protocols that merge cutting-edge science with timeless spiritual principles to foster sustainable transformation. Her signature framework, the Helix of Health™, combines insights from neuroscience, quantum physics, psycho-cybernetics, behavioral health, somatic therapy, and integrative wellness to help individuals and organizations unlock coherence, resilience, and resonance. From CEOs and investors to entrepreneurs, executives, and changemakers, her work equips clients to reduce burnout, enhance clarity, and thrive in high-pressure environments.

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  show may be advertising on the podcast, but it is not endorsement or review of any kind. Today's featured author is brought to you by majestic authors media specializing in strategic marketing and publishing to help authors reach their ideal audience and maximize their book's success, turning powerful messages into global impact, one story at a time. We have an amazing young lady on the show this today. We're going to be talking about her book, her insights to some of the coaching and work that she does to help others. Her book is entitled, Life. I'm sorry, let me recut that. Her book is entitled, Live Engaged, How to Tap Into Your Divine Feminine and Unlock Your Superpower by Aram Latif. We're going to get into with her and find out some of the details, what she's talking about

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  and doing to make the world a better place. She is an MS MBA and a neuropsychologist by training, Amazon bestselling author, global speaker, executive advisor and founder of Engagement Lab and Live Engaged Media. Across more than 25 years in healthcare and business, her work has spanned clinical research, patient engagement, commercialization, leadership, human centered design and organizational growth. She's a creator of human technology, architecture, and integrative framework for understanding how identity, physiology, attention, belief, and behavior and relationships shape how people think, decide, lead, perform, and

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  live. Through Live Engaged, she brings those ideas into everyday life through the Engagement Lab, and she applies them to growth, innovation, leadership and performance. She's confirmed to speak on a TEDx stage in 2017. Welcome to the show. How are you, Aram?

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  I'm doing well. How are you?

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  I am doing excellent. It's wonderful to have you. Give us your dot coms. Where can people find you on the interwebs?

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  Aramlatif.com is the easiest place to navigate and find me. We also have Engagement Lab.com. In, in development, it should be launching actually this week for, for corporate entities, organizations, et cetera. But I'm also across LinkedIn, Instagram, and yeah, I'm pretty available anyway, anywhere. I actually have a YouTube channel as well.

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  Ah, got the YouTube channel going on there. And so give us a overview of this book and what's inside, please.

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  Yeah, absolutely. So this book is, I describe it as part memoir, part field guide, right? It was, it's my own story of how I discovered my own power. And, and this happens incrementally over 20 plus years as I lived life, had what I describe as curveballs thrown at me from left, right, center, and how I managed those curveballs and came out on top and then realized after the fact, what exactly was happening in the background. And I wanted to share that story with other women so that they too can tap into that,

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  what I call divine feminine. Another way to talk about it is feminine intelligence at the end of the day. And we have this feminine intelligence within us and we can tap into it and honestly alter our experience of reality.

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  Ah, the life is always full of challenges. It's a, it's a game of survival, which is pretty crazy. Let's lay a foundation on definitions. What, what is the divine feminine? Is it different than just the feminine nature? And give us a little foundation on that, if you would.

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  I wanted to build, it's a great question. I wanted to build, for all intents and purposes, an identity around it, right? So I feel like in multiple places across social, the internet, it's, it's given a very soft and a very compliant vibe. And to me-

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  Are you talking about, which term are you talking about?

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  Divine feminine.

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  Okay.

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  So to me, that divine feminine captures our feminine intelligence, period, full stop. We as women are capable of tapping into our own knowing and our own intelligence. We're just, in my opinion, not necessarily supported, taught to really cultivate that over our lives. And I think that that is the difference in what a lot of women experience. And, and it impacts how, how they go through life, quite frankly. And what I wanted them to capture is that they can, in fact, instead of externalizing their power, they can go

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  inward, basically, and foster and build that power. And instead of looking for validation outside, they return to themselves and know who they are and what they're capable of.

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  Yeah, that's definitely important, knowing who we are and valuing ourselves and not needing someone else to do it. I think it's, is it hard for women to override that though? It's built in their nature, the need for attention and validation externally.

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  Yeah, I, I think that, I think that that's something that women learn from cultural programming. And I believe that we can unplug from that need, once we learn to foster and create that own internal power. And then that need for external validation, you can step away from it because you know who you are and what you possess. It's given a lot of words. I think people use the term authenticity. People use, there's a lot of words that are used out there, but ultimately that, the goal is to stop seeking validation from external sources.

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  Okay. Okay. And then what you talk about this live engaged concept, and what made you realize a lot of successful people don't live their lives fully engaged? And maybe give us a definition on that, if you would, too. So we-

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  Sure, sure. Absolutely. So to live engaged is to really be present for your life, to consciously live your life, right? Not go through the motions, not sleepwalk through it. Every day you get a choice to show up as a person and be this amazing human being, living this amazing life. And you can, it's, it's all a framework. It's all a belief, right? So if you wake up thinking, oh, I have to go to work. Oh, I have to get my kids to school, to daycare. Oh, I have to take care of my parents or check on my mom or whatever those have to's are. You are truly minimizing what it means to be alive. And

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  living engaged is truly experiencing life at its fullest in every micro moment that is given to you, right? Day to day, no matter what you're doing, no matter where you are in life. It's the simplest pauses of holding a loved one's hand or taking a bite of amazing food or a sip of amazing wine. It's truly just dialing into those micro moments that make it amazing to be human.

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  Yeah. How do you get present? Being present is one of the things that I discovered late in life. I kind of wish I would have discovered earlier, but I was, I was having some severe depression when, after my dog had passed and, and then it really got worse when the hard drive that had the last few hundred pictures on it crashed. And, and it was, it was kind of like a kick in the head. I can't even say, you're going to take my dog from the universe, but you, I can't even save the pictures too. And it was a victimhood mentality I was in at the time. And I was depressed. I had spent a year and a half babying her through hospice care and cancer. That, that was really destructive, too. I didn't understand how challenging it was to be a caretaker in that sense. And

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  how much mentally it can do damage if you don't take care of yourself. But yeah, I, a friend of mine recommended the book, what was it? Eckhart Tolle's book on being present. And I just felt like I was cruising. My dogs would come up to me and they'll give me love and attention. And, and I just felt so disconnected from them. I just felt like I couldn't feel anything about it. I couldn't, I just felt like I was always disconnected. And so learning to be present was really important. I realized just my life was blasting by, right? Yeah. You just feel like you're just whipshod behind this out of control race car that's driving through life. And you're, you're right. A lot of people go

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  through life in a bot mode. They lock in and they just figure, I'm just going to go head down and, and just do the things. And yeah, life goes by you. And there's no one who ever said on their deathbed, I wish I'd spent more time in the office.

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  A hundred percent.

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  So people need to live engaged. Now you talk about how people are not broken, but they're misaligned. What is the distinction and why is it change how we approach transformation?

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  So I am a personal development junkie, right? I've been reading these books since I was like early, early twenties, right? I'm sure no one my age was reading these books and I just love them because of the inspirational and motivational messages within them. But lately I've realized that there is a lot of content out there focusing on healing and how you're broken and what to do to fix yourself. And to me, I think that creates yet another identity that people adapt, right? So if they identify with being broken, then they miss that message that they actually have

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  the power internally to fix themselves. And then they, they just wear that hat, right?

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  Yeah.

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  I'm broken, I need fixing, right? And to me, it's easier and I think almost better for folks if they are trying to improve themselves from a transformational perspective, to look at it as you're just simply misaligned. You just need to recalibrate what's going on internally and everything externally will shift. But it's understanding that it's, it's as simple as a realignment or a recalibration is also what I call it. And it changed, it shifts the narrative.

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  Yeah.

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  You're not broken. You're not broken. You just need to recalibrate and shift things. That's it. It makes it easier. It makes it more palatable and it makes it easier to achieve. And then it becomes less this gargantuan task out in the, in front of you for the rest of your life.

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  Life is about, it's about how you respond to things. This is something a lot of men study with Marcus Aurelius and meditations. And it's about how you respond to the things that happen in life. Two people can go to a party, one person can see a great party. I think I got this from Anthony Robbins. One person can see a great party and the other person sees the worst party they've ever been. It's boring and no one's happy. And, and two people see two different things. And it's because of their perspectives and how they look at life. And what you look for, you will find.

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  The brain, the brain's miraculous that way.

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  I walk into situ, I hate flight travel. I hate the TSA experience. If they wouldn't limit the lines, I'd be fine with it. But the fact that they have these long lines and you see people just standing around and you're just like, this is not fun at all. But what I do is I try and make it fun. I get on the plane, I talk to people, I try and make them laugh. I do a little bit of stand up. I get a little, I get everybody on a couple rows laughing at stupid jokes or just making funny stuff. And so I try and have fun with it. And that's what you need to do when it's difficult to life. Or you alluded to, if you've got a major task or major beast you're trying to get done, it can be overwhelming to look at the whole thing. And I've just learned, okay, let's eat the elephant one bite at a time.

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  Take one bite, chew a lot and take another bite. And then pretty soon you're through the task and it's done. But you're, how you approach stuff and your mental game that you put into it. And, and life is so precious. Life is so precious. And, and people, people need to realize that all these moments make a difference. You can believe in an afterlife if you want. But what if the, this is all there is? You should make the most of it. And if it's, and if you make the most of this and there's a life afterwards for you, surprise, bonus round. But still, I see so many people that waste this life and they're just like, yeah, I'll work it out later in, in eternity or something. I've seen people that they don't settle their differences with loved ones before they pass. And they're just like, yeah, I'm

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  gonna work out someday, I suppose. No, it's you, this may be your only time here. And you can gamble one way or another if it's not, but make the best of what you can. And that perception and that mindset, does, do you think people have to be more grateful to ground themselves in being present and, and be appreciative of what they have? I think, I think that helps me.

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  I think so, yes. Gratitude is definitely a huge, a huge practice that I think we, a lot of people don't take advantage of. And it's as simple as taking a sip of coffee and being grateful that you got that damn coffee, right? In the morning, being able to just sit and enjoy that. But it's also about you, I think you mentioned it earlier, right? It's that meditation, it's that building awareness, that space within yourself so that you can almost observe yourself and observe what's happening and start seeing your feelings and your emotions and your thoughts and how they are impacting your, right? And, and when you start becoming aware of these things, then you can start shifting it. And then your perspective shifts, right? But it's just being aware.

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  Yeah. You gotta be aware. And, and, and you can't change the past. I think that's what a lot of people get stuck in with victimization is they wear the badge of the past. I should write that down. I put on a coffee cup, badge of the past. But yeah, the, and, and we seem to live in this world now where everyone's on victimhood Olympics competition. It's like, I'm gonna know my victimhood's bigger than yours. No, my experience is worse than yours. I remember, I really noticed it one time. It was during the view with Whoopi Goldberg. And, did I get that name right? Yeah. And there was someone on the show who was talking about Jewish Holocaust and stuff like that. And, and Whoopi Goldberg just lit up one day

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  and, and in talking, this person who was talking about the Jewish Holocaust and some of the suffering Jews, the Jewish people had gone through. And she was like, no, blacks had it worse. And she basically tried to one up the, the victimhood competition of who was the biggest victim. She got a lot of crap for it. But it was really interesting to see it in real time, where I was like, wow, people are trying to one up each other on who, who had the worst lives or worst history. And it's not empowering when you live that way because the past is your badge and you can't change the past.

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  Yep.

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  All you can do is change what's, what, what, what you're doing right now, this very second, and that will impact the future. But the future's going to be the same if you don't take control of the horse right now and get on it. You talk about the helix of health. Why must mind, body and soul be addressed together?

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  So after what, 25 years plus in the healthcare space, I started realizing that not only the patients that I was working with in early days, and then even later, as you just observe patients in general, that we are, Western medicine at least, is very much focused on cause, effect, disease, symptom and symptom management. That's it. But the whole perspective of whole health has been lost in the shuffle. Eastern medicine practices do touch on it more and look at the human being as this holistic self, this holistic being, right?

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  And that is the essence of helix of health. It's not just addressing the body, but seeing that the mind and the soul also need to be in equilibrium with the body in order to truly be healthy and to affect and bring forth that inner power. If you are lopsided, so to speak, right? And you go to the gym every day, you're like eating, your macros are on point, but you don't meditate, but you are doing whatever at night and whatever. You don't have that alignment from your soul perspective, then you are lopsided, right? Your health is very one dimensional almost.

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  Yeah.

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  So the way I describe it is you have to have and foster that equilibrium across all three aspects of yourself.

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  Yeah, you can't just work on your muscles. I've, I've, I've met lots of people who are muscly and stupid as hell. But, but then I met people like me who are just stupid as hell and have some muscles. But you're right, you have to develop all the different things. It, it's, it's just a shame people don't, we don't teach this in, in school.

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  Yeah.

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  Like, why do people have to learn this when they're like 40 and 50? They're starting to, they're starting to get their head above water of chasing the ring of work and money and success and being able to do things and things. And, and then they, you start to, as you get successful, you get your life down a little bit in some places. You, you start looking around and going, maybe there's more I need to think about here. And yeah, it's really a shame. They don't teach. I, I, I've often said they, they need to, we need to have trauma class in highs, in high school, man. Just, just from high school, actually.

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  From high school.

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  From high school to deal with that trauma. But i- i- it's so funny. We don't teach this stuff and we don't, we don't teach hardly any life lessons to people. In school and how to, how to deal, how to use credit, how to understand interest rates, how to manage your credit, how to balance a checkbook. I mean, does anybody know what a checkbook is anymore? Is Gen Z?

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  A handful, a handful of kids, I think. How to write checks. If I remember correctly, my daughter's third or fourth grade teacher taught them how to write checks and I was so impressed. But yeah, our education system needs a huge overhaul.

• 19:52Speaker 01

  It really does. Let's, let's, let's get people to deal with their, their things. I've often said, I want, I want people to have a college degree for one or two years on how to be a parent. And how to, how to have successful relationships.

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  Yep.

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  I, I think that should be a prerequisite. You shouldn't even be able to breed until you've gone through a course on how to be a decent human being and fix all your problems. And then how to have relationships with people.

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  Yep.

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  Who are healthy. I, it's just astounding to me. We still operate in this thing where I'm the most fucked up individual in the world and I'm going to breed and make more fucked up people. And then give them generational trauma. So my whole lineage is, is, I don't know. So yeah, it's, it's pretty crazy. The way we go through life. And when you really think about it, you're like, what? Now you're trained in neurophysiology or yeah, physiology and more than 25 years in healthcare. In form, the way you bring science, spirituality, energy and consciousness together in the book. How, how did your training in that to help you develop this?

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  So it's interesting. I, so one of my pivotal stories that I still remember is when I was getting my master's degree, we were in embryology class. And embryology is study of field development, right? How, how a baby's made, if you will, from the science, the science version. And the book is half filled with pink pages and our professor explains that the pink pages are everything that can go wrong during human development. As a baby progresses through the different stages of development and it's fascinating that half that book is everything that can go wrong. Yet so many wonderful, beautiful, healthy babies are born every day. So that

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  kind of started opening up my curiosity, right? What is it that, that makes this happen, right? What is that in intelligence, if you will, that allows that to happen? And then fast forward, when I was working with patients, I began to see that the same patient, same diagnosis, same treatment. And two different patients would have two different outcomes. And I started, I double clicked into that, right? I wanted to understand why. So I would have different conversations with these patients, find out what else they were doing at home in their free time. And it became obvious that the patients that had some other anchor within themselves, whether it was like they went, went home and played the piano. One, one woman was like a marathon runner, right?

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  It was, they still had that sense of who they were and some other practice that made them align with themselves. And that's when it all started coming together and I started seeing it more and more, right? Once you see something, you can't unsee it, right? And so I was continually looking for evidence of it and having spent so much time in clinical research, that's how my brain works. So that's where it all came together.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  Clinical research and the brain and all that wonderful stuff that goes on there. Now, what is the hidden cost of being highly capable, especially for women who've learned to over function?

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  It's a great question. At the end of the day, we lose ourselves, right? We give, again, we talked about it earlier, we lose ourselves. Chronic exhaustion becomes labeled as ambition, right? Or over functioning is labeled as, oh, she's a great leader. And I saw it over and over again in the corporate space is that these amazingly intelligent, capable, highly capable women were on paper hugely successful, paychecks, titles, et cetera. And when they would go home, they would be exhausted. They are literally living from vacation to vacation. When's my next vacation?

• 23:37Speaker 02

  And that's when you realize that that version of success is just chronic activation. It's, that's all we, we, we've ever been taught. So that's all we knew. And that's when I started pulling back myself and I started observing myself more and trying to make different choices. And that eventually led for me to step away in 2024 and do something different. And one of the reasons I wrote this book is for us all to remember that, that, that version of success is just one version. It's one story. And we can redefine success and whatever that looks like and feels like in our lives as individuals.

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  Yeah, it's, it's, it's hard to get caught up in all that ambition. And I think when I talk to today's women, I have a big, huge dating group. They really believe that they can do everything.

• 24:31Speaker 02

  Yep.

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  And that is insane. It's just flat out insane. There's no, as a man, we don't sit around and go, we can do everything. We think we can fix everything. Cause we're men. That's what we do. But even we can't do everything. We know that. We, we have a logic and reason brain and we just go, yeah, it's not possible. And it, it's a long, it's a long road. You gotta pace yourself. And I think that's one challenge that women have been sold that they have to do everything and be everything. And the fact that they think that it was possible because their mom told them, I think is the biggest, the biggest challenge. You can't do everything. Your head will explode. You, it's, we're not built to do everything.

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  In fact, the reason there, we have men and masculinity and we have women and femininity is because they're different. We balance each other out and we complement each other so we can team up and kick ass and take names. I mean, we live in a world that's highly just ugly from all different frames, especially right now.

• 25:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's very lopsided. That, that equilibrium across, like you said, masculinity and femininity has definitely been lost. And we each have our own strengths and we need to regain, re-acknowledge and regain our, our strengths.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, definitely, definitely. But trying to do everything is just madness, sheer madness. There's, there's no way that no one can do everything. And I think that's, I think that's where a lot of our, our lives are out of alignment now. Excuse me. Let's touch on your, you've got some other books. How many books do you have total?

• 26:01Speaker 02

  I have three totals. We, I contributed with an amazing group early, right before I wrote my standalone book and we wrote some business books. So one is leading with compassion. One is called, are we friends or are we coworkers? So really diving into some of the inherent questions that come up after spending years and years in, in the workplace, right? That what are we doing? How are we doing it? How are we showing up? So these books are very much focused on conscious business leadership, which I am a huge advocate for. And that's one of the, one of the, you know, flags that I'm planting in the ground that I do want to change what corporate, what corporate looks like, what the professional space looks like. And then obviously I've got live engage that came out shortly after.

• 26:44Speaker 01

  You, you mentioned an interesting point about friends at work and stuff. There was a video I was watching yesterday of, I guess there was another round of layoffs of, at Oracle. It might've been an older video that, for rounds of layoffs, but they laid off a thousand people at the time. And so this gal was on there, a fairly young lady. She looked like she might be in her twenties. She was getting paid 250,000 a year at Oracle and she just got laid off. And so she was talking about what her future was going to be and kind of where she was at and, and stuff. But what was interesting to me is she said, it's a weird place to be in right now because my work was my social life.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  It was where my friends were and everything about my life revolved around that job. And now I'm lost because I don't have my friends anymore at work. She based her whole life, her whole, everything was that work. And so now she's, I'm going to have to go make some new friends, I guess. And making friends at work, it's not the most healthy thing to do usually from what I've found. Yeah, everyone's got their knives out and they wanna go up the ladder and, and yeah, there's a lot of that stuff. So I, I never thought of anyone at my work as my friend, especially as a CEO. And you can't treat people that way. Otherwise they'll walk all over you. But it was interesting to me and kind of sad. I was like, geez, you don't have a home life.

• 28:08Speaker 01

  You don't have friends you go and hang out at the bar with, with an artwork related. You know, I mean, that just, it sounded so one dimensional of a life. It's still life and she's having a good time, I guess. But you, you have to plan. If you work for other people, you gotta plan to be laid off. That's just a fact of life. I grew up and I, I came of age in the eighties when, when they started that whole, let's lay off people and raise stock prices because we don't give a crap anymore. Now let's talk about some of the offerings that you have on your website. What do, what do you do there? How do people onboard with you and engage with you and, and, and take advantage of the programs you have? What do you have there?

• 28:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. I love working with organizations to help them recalibrate their C suite. So I do have different programs to help. Individuals at the leadership level so that they can next level their own performance. So I've quantified everything into the Human Technology Index, which is what I use to evaluate leaders and what their decision making skills are, where their nervous systems are. And we work on that. We can run decision intelligence labs. We've got all kinds of intelligence reports from marketing to sales. We have all kinds of systems for the corporate space. I also work with

• 29:27Speaker 02

  individuals in groups and do smaller, smaller exercises. So we've got a six week capability lab coming up in mid October. I think it's starting. So for any fans of the Benjamin Hardy 10x books and Dan Felvin, right? So I am a huge advocate and believer in that. And we're coming on to Q4. And I know I am always that person who wants to get a jump start on the new year. And for anyone else out there that wants to, that you've got an idea, a program, a course, something you've been trying to build or launch over the last year and just haven't gotten the momentum, reach out and we'll help you get through it. It's a six week performance sprint. And I use human centered design and

• 30:11Speaker 02

  human technology architecture to get people over the finish line. But otherwise, I've got all kinds of exciting offers and programs and retreats coming up. And you can just check my, check out my website.

• 30:22Speaker 01

  You've got some programs here. Build your foundation, start on your own terms, signature experience for high performing group of peers, one on one, private, deep tailored partnership retreats. And now I think I saw in the notes that you have something coming up in October. Do we want to plug that?

• 30:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was what I was speaking about, the capability lab. So that's that six week performance sprint that we're starting. Yeah, that's, that's what I'm really excited about because I know that my fellow ambitious folks out there will reach out because October is the best time to get things done before the holidays start.

• 30:56Speaker 01

  And then people can go for corporate and organizations, enterprise stuff, they can go to myengagementlab.com there. And so we'll put that on the show too. And any future books, maybe you're working on or things you're working on that's coming up in the future?

• 31:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. Thanks. I am working on a book that is focusing on my overarching framework for human performance, which I call Human Technology Architecture. And it's going to be somewhat technical, but then very practical in how it's applied to how you live, how you work, and how you perform, and what I call the art of living human. So TBD on, on the, the release date on that.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  That should be wonderful to take and get involved with. And on your website, what, what does your customer or client look like? Do they need to have a certain amount of net worth, yada, yada, yada? How does that all work?

• 31:51Speaker 02

  So I, most of my clients and customers do come from that kind of inflection point, right? They are working on career 2.0, version 2.0, 3.0 of themselves. They've dealt with random events in their life and they're reconstructing their life. And so I do help individuals at that level. I help business owners, founders, entrepreneurs even, who are looking to next level their business. And I work with different groups, private equity groups, like I said, C suite organizational groups to help them next level their performance. So it's all about human performance, very similar to what athletes and Olympians do, right? But I'm translating everything to, to life and to the business.

• 32:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. Wonderful stuff. And, and they can, is there a reach out point on your website? They can?

• 32:42Speaker 02

  Absolutely. You can just reach out. Yep. And, and happy to chat at any time.

• 32:48Speaker 01

  Wonderful stuff. What a, what a wonderful thing. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a shame they don't teach this in school, but this gives an opportunity to a lot of folks like yourself and us to help other people and lift them up and do the things that they should be taught. People always ask me, what would, what would you tell yourself when you were young? I don't know, maybe I should have said buy Bitcoin when it was low and then sell it when it was high. But no, my, my thing was go to, go to, go to therapy for that childhood drama. And people always look at me funny when I say that. They're like, really? That's, that's how you'd use that? And I'm like, yeah, because I create a lot of, I create a lot of damage through life up until the time I was 50. And then I look back and went, maybe it's me.

• 33:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. But you know, it's, once again, you can't change the past. So you're, you know, grabbing hold of the present and holding on tight. I deal with massive ADHD, especially now since I started testosterone replacement a few years ago. And we've been adjusting it. And every time we adjust it, my ADHD just goes right off the fuck, right off the rails. And, and squirrel. The, so it's, it's even harder for me to, to hold on to being present and, and stuff. And so it's, it's just a daily, hourly battle with me. Yeah. Some people have addiction. I think I just have ADHD. So it's one day, every day is a battle.

• 34:10Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 34:10Speaker 01

  So yeah, hold on to being present, folks. It's really important. But you're never, you can't change the past. If 90%, I don't know what, there's a stat on, I think 95% of stuff you worry about usually never happens. You kind of worry because you, you think about it because you, you want to plan around it if you can avoid a

• 34:28Speaker 02

  Right.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  obstacle. But sometimes the, the only way through the obstacle is through the obstacle. Final thoughts and pitch out to people as we go out and dot coms where people can find you.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. So obviously swing by my website, aramlatif.com. I'm on Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube. And one final thought would be just to truly live, live life like it is your life. It is your work of art. So take us, take a beat, right? Become more present, become built, foster that awareness. Live engaged because it'll truly alter your experience of life.

• 35:03Speaker 01

  It really will. I can attest to that. It was one of the most important things I learned to be present. I was just sleepwalking through life and like I'd be petting my dogs and I still couldn't connect with the moment of just being present and giving my dogs love. I'd be petting them and I just feel like I was another different world or different room. It was really, it was really, it wasn't healthy. Let's put it that way. But being able to be present, enjoying every moment, the smile on their face. That's why I have two huskies, man. If they, if they, if they're hitting ground you.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  Animals have a way of bringing it out in you. If you just take them as an example, they, they, they actually are the easiest, easiest way to learn how to be present because that's how they live.

• 35:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. And it's, it's so important to remember to remember them too. And, and look at them and go, oh, yeah, they're being goofy. They, they really kind of make me laugh and all the stuff they're usually up to. And I think sometimes they do it to perform a little. They, they're like, hey, look at our goofy asses, Chris. We, we're trying to make you, we're trying to make you laugh because you need to laugh. We can tell you. Thank you very much, Erin, for coming to the show. We really appreciate it.

• 36:14Speaker 02

  Appreciate it. Thank you.

• 36:15Speaker 01

  All right. Thank you. And folks, pick up our book wherever fine books are sold. There'll be a link on the Chris Voss Show. Live Engaged. How to tap in your divine feminine and unlock your superpower. I'm going to read it and unlock my divine feminine.

• 36:28Speaker 02

  I love it. I love it. Report back, please.

• 36:30Speaker 01

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