Pod Insights Canadian True Crime Introducing: Someone Knows Something About this episode Christine Harron, a book-loving teenager from Hanover, Ontario, leaves for school in the spring of 1993 and is never seen again. A suspect emerges, confessing to her murder, but the case falls apart and Christine's family are left without answers.
In Season 9 of the award winning podcast Someone Knows Something, David Ridgen, along with Christine's mother, reopen the investigation and come face to face with the man who said he killed Chrissy.
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Transcript 0:03 Speaker 00 Hi everyone, we'll be back with a new episode next week. But today, I've got a special bonus episode to share with you from another podcast we think you'll love. Someone Knows Something from CBC is back with a brand new season. Host David Ridgen is an award-winning podcaster, filmmaker and investigator who specialises in hard-hitting, character-driven stories. He's been credited with reopening cold cases, putting a Klansman behind bars for a civil rights-era double murder, and spurring victim reconciliation with perpetrators. Now in season nine of Someone Knows Something, David Ridgen dives into the case of Christine Harron.
0:46 Speaker 00 Chrissie was a book-loving teenager from Hanover, Ontario, who left for school in the spring of 1993 and was never seen again. A suspect emerges, confessing to her murder, but the case falls apart and Christine's family are left without answers. David Ridgen, along with Christine's mother, reopen the investigation and come face-to-face with the man who said he killed Chrissy. So, as a special bonus, here's the first episode of the new season of Someone Knows Something, the Christine Harron case.
1:24 Speaker 01 I'm at another river, this one flowing through a southwestern Ontario town on a clear but darkening springtime evening.
1:33 Speaker 01 I recorded these nature sounds well over a decade ago for a TV documentary using the same microphone I now use for the podcast. This thing always seems to be standing between me and the unknown, somehow oddly comforting.
1:51 Speaker 01 Just crouching at the riverside here in a park in Hanover, Ontario. This is the Soggyne River, which, the mouth of the Soggyne actually empties out into Lake Huron. It's about 60 kilometres downstream, I think. The river's flowing clear, but there's lots of debris kind of pushed against the shoreline. There's obviously a pretty high flood plain here.
2:19 Speaker 01 There's an old gazebo, a swing set. There's an old gate.
2:27 Speaker 01 I remember focusing on the sounds these things made here. Chains on a swing, muddy logs at the high water mark, brushy grasses along the path, and that metal gate. I wonder if these objects, or the sounds they made, ever held any actual comfort for anyone.
2:49 Speaker 01 At one time, this park was Christine Heron's favorite place in the whole world, I've been told. If I'd been here before May 18, 1993, I might have seen her down here, catching frogs or fishing. And nobody here today. Just this path next to the river.
3:14 Speaker 01 The sounds I've recorded here don't reveal any secrets, but I feel pulled back to places like this again and again. Pulled back into long-term investigations, their grief and the hope. Even after some questions have been answered, there's always more, and more difficult ones.
3:36 Speaker 01 Over 30 years ago, just one week after her 15th birthday, Christine Heron disappeared. And her full story has yet to be told.
3:49 Speaker 01 I'm David Ridgen, and this is Someone Knows Something, Season 9, The Christine Heron Case, Episode 1, Chrissy.
4:05 Speaker 01 I first learned about Christine in the late 2000s as I was scanning through some of the many unsolved cases out of Ontario. I was preparing to make a documentary series for CBC Television's news program, The National. I sorted Chrissy's case into a much smaller pile, a shortlist of sorts, cases that for some reason spoke to me.
4:28 Speaker 02 We gather here this morning for a celebration of life, the life of Christine Heron.
4:37 Speaker 01 I'd learned that a memorial service was being held at a church 17 years after Christine disappeared, so I traveled west to Hanover in the springtime of 2010.
4:51 Speaker 02 Let us pray. Loving God, look with mercy on those who mourn for Christine, who has died by the violence of our fallen world.
5:03 Speaker 02 Be with us as we struggle with the mysteries of life and death.
5:07 Speaker 01 Framed photos of Christine, in curly dark hair and glasses, sit on a small table at the front of the church, next to the minister. There are others, sad people whom I assume are her family, standing close by, including the woman that I know as her mother, Mary Ann.
5:26 Speaker 02 Described by her mom as a bit of a loner, Christine didn't have a lot of close friends. In our culture, her loner mentality meant that she was viewed as being different. She wasn't someone who was hung up on appearances, or who was doing what with whom. She had other things to do, other things.
5:47 Speaker 01 This minister's words, his impressions of Christine, fill me with a chill of sadness. Tears suddenly roll down my face for this young person I'd never met. And right there, I decide that I'm going to do this case.
6:06 Speaker 03 This is the last place Chrissy had lived.
6:11 Speaker 01 I would take several more months of information gathering before I contacted Chrissy's mother, Mary Ann.
6:18 Speaker 03 That front window was the living room, and that's where her and I had spent the morning together, watching television, with her laying her head on my lap.
6:31 Speaker 01 I've got Mary Ann framed up in my documentary camera, on a cool windy day. Pale-skinned in glasses, with meticulous makeup and shorter hair, Mary Ann stands in front of the small brick two-story she'd been renting back in the spring of 1993, at the time Chrissy disappeared. Mary Ann gestures to where she says Chrissy walked away from home that day.
6:56 Speaker 03 And then she left to go to school. She walked down the other side of the street, and around the corner.
7:04 Speaker 03 And that was the last I've seen of her.
7:09 Speaker 01 Mary Ann says she watched from an upstairs window as Chrissy turned the corner. On the way, Mary Ann thought, to grade nine classes at John Deefenbaker High School. Not that far away. It was sometime between 1:30 and 2:00 P.M. Chrissy had not felt well that morning, so stayed home. She'd been known to skip classes and didn't want to go to school that afternoon either. She and her mom had argued about it, and Mary Ann suggested that perhaps Chrissy should get a job instead. Chrissy walked out, saying, "See you later," and slammed the door. She was wearing blue jeans, a jean jacket, black running shoes,
7:49 Speaker 01 plastic glasses with a broken nosepiece on one side, and possibly, a silver bracelet.
7:58 Speaker 03 She was in a good mood that morning, but she was mad that she had to go to school. She even, we were in the process of packing and moving to another place. And she says, "Well, even let me stay home and I'll pack all the time instead of going that day." But I said, "You can't. The sheriff's waiting."
8:15 Speaker 01 There were other tensions in the household at the time as well. Chrissy had been deeply troubled by her parents' divorce years earlier. Her father, Lorne, lived in western Canada at the time of Chrissy's disappearance, and has since passed away. Chrissy got along with her younger brother, named Sean, but did not always see eye to eye with her stepfather, who was also named Sean, Sean Russworm, who was then aged 26.
8:42 Speaker 04 Well, she didn't like keeping her room clean. She's kind of a tomboy.
8:49 Speaker 01 Russworm is a large man in a t-shirt, sporting a mustache and smudgy blue-lined tattoos on each shoulder. Back at their current home, he and Mary Ann are settled into a couch. Two chihuahuas named Chloe and Angel sit on their laps.
9:06 Speaker 04 As long as they be here, then maybe they can stay.
9:11 Speaker 03 You know, the best thing to do is to hand her to you and let you hold her.
9:18 Speaker 03 There, Angel. See?
9:22 Speaker 01 Mary Ann hands me Angel, the extra small one, so she can get used to me and stop barking. I walk around the room a bit with the dog in hand, looking at some photos of Chrissy spread out on a coffee table, with a yellow lunch pail on her first day of kindergarten, blowing out birthday candles in red ribbed pigtails, and Christmas tree moments. I'm just gonna try something with that light.
9:50 Speaker 01 The dogs seem calm, and we start talking about Chrissy.
9:56 Speaker 04 She liked to take stuff apart.
9:58 Speaker 03 And put it back together, to see what made it work. She loved kids.
10:03 Speaker 04 Real bookworm.
10:05 Speaker 03 Loved going for walks, into cricks, catching frogs, and what have you.
10:11 Speaker 01 I see Chrissy seeming to watch me through her big glasses in the photos.
10:17 Speaker 04 I love those glasses.
10:19 Speaker 03 She hated them.
10:21 Speaker 04 There was times where other people would pick on her younger brother Sean, and then Chrissy'd be right there, sticking up for her brother. Chrissy was right there and punched out a couple of boys that were picking on Sean. This was some public school already. So she could hold her own, when she was feisty and when she needed to be.
10:46 Speaker 01 Sean admits that his relationship with Chrissy was sometimes strained, and he says that he's bipolar and sometimes can be aggressive. But he says that one of his last memories of Chrissy is her helping him replace the spark plugs in his car.
11:01 Speaker 04 When we started to get closer, she'd uh come out to the garage and asked me if she could use my tools, yeah, they're right there. If I'd go to help, no, no, I'd she wanna do it herself.
11:15 Speaker 03 But she wasn't one to go out to parties or anything like that, like she'd come home a couple of times and said, well, they're drinking, so I left.
11:23 Speaker 04 She left.
11:24 Speaker 03 She was against smoking, she was against drinking.
11:26 Speaker 04 Told her we were really proud of her for that.
11:29 Speaker 03 Yeah. She was close to her grandma, my mom.
11:32 Speaker 04 Very close.
11:34 Speaker 03 Yeah. They spent a lot of time together.
11:39 Speaker 05 Uh, we always had a good relationship. For any reason, if she just wanted to talk, she'd call me. She used to spend a lot of time out there with me.
11:49 Speaker 01 Grandma Phyllis Sacks at her home.
11:52 Speaker 05 And then when ninety-three, we moved to Guelph. That's what upset me so bad because I felt she, if she's out there, she's gonna try and reach me. Cause she always did. If she wanted something or other and uh and I thought when I move away, she won't have my phone number and that's upset me and once I moved away, I couldn't even look at her pictures anymore for a long time. It really upset me bad.
12:21 Speaker 06 It says grandma.
12:24 Speaker 06 No, it says grandpa. It says grandma. Grandpa. Well, they saw. P T R A N P A. Grandpa. Uh huh, it's a grandma. Huh?
12:40 Speaker 01 Christine sits around a Christmas tree with her family in nineteen ninety. I watched the grainy archival video as she quietly makes sure that everyone has a gift to open before she does. Then the footage shifts to a Santa theme park and Christine's pretending to be a reindeer in front of a big red sleigh. A mischievous strength to her every move, just three years before she walks off into oblivion.
13:08 Speaker 05 Well, I got a new sewing machine. I remember bringing her out and letting her use it. She made an apron the one time she was out and we'd bake and we'd just play games. We always used to go do worm hunting, picking one or two, and she'd go fishing.
13:25 Speaker 05 I just couldn't believe it when she disappeared and she didn't call me.
13:30 Speaker 05 It's something you can't never forget, I don't know.
13:34 Speaker 05 No matter what, you can't forget about it.
13:39 Speaker 01 Mary Ann reported Chrissy missing to Hanover Police at 9:21 PM on the day she disappeared, May 18, 1993. Chrissy was known to have a poor sense of direction and would get lost easily, but despite this and her habit of skipping classes or sleeping over at friends' houses, Mary Ann and others say that Chrissy would always call home and never go far.
14:04 Speaker 03 When she didn't show home, I started phoning her friends and my family just to see if maybe she went to one of her friends' house after school or something.
14:15 Speaker 01 The story of Christine's case, at least in the beginning, is a familiar one. A teenager leaves home, supposed to be somewhere, school, but never makes it. Local police, investigatively inexperienced, finding nothing and flying in the face of what a mother knows.
14:33 Speaker 03 And nobody had seen her or heard from her, so then the family and I, we started going out and looking for her. Looking in parks and in the area just to see, you know, if she was someplace else and just hadn't come home yet. We had phoned the police and they said it was too soon yet to do anything. What we actually got from the Hanover Police Chief himself was that his daughter runs away a lot, takes off for days, so mine probably did the same thing. So she never showed home and I sat up all night and waited for her and worried. I even had the feeling too, all along, that she was down there by the park somewhere.
15:17 Speaker 03 I kept trying to get them to search more. And the church and I, we even got together and formed our own search. And we wanted to search down there and they wouldn't let us. They made us go in the opposite direction.
15:31 Speaker 04 And the town police was very upset when we
15:35 Speaker 03 Yes.
15:36 Speaker 04 When we set that up, they were not impressed.
15:39 Speaker 07 That you had set up a search?
15:41 Speaker 03 Yes.
15:41 Speaker 04 Yes.
15:42 Speaker 03 They didn't want the public to panic.
15:44 Speaker 04 We were told if we went anywhere near the park that weekend, the very first weekend she disappeared, there would be consequences and repercussions.
15:54 Speaker 07 Who told you that?
15:55 Speaker 03 The police.
16:00 Speaker 01 There had been an antique car show on at the park that coming Victoria Day weekend, and police were concerned about disrupting it, according to Mary Ann. The Hanover Police and Fire Department did eventually coordinate and conduct a single search using volunteers on May 23, 1993, five days after she disappeared. The search encompassed the Hanover Park, the south shore of the soggy river going east, and the town water tower. No trace of Christine was found.
16:34 Speaker 03 I think everybody just wanted to believe she was a runaway. Nobody would actually think of her as something had happened, not in a small town, not to their town. So everybody just told us, no, she's a runaway, she'll come back when she's ready. Even when we were putting up posters, people would take them down. They just didn't want to believe it.
16:54 Speaker 04 The town police took them down.
16:56 Speaker 03 Yeah. But nobody would believe it. I actually got phone calls from people, you know, stop making such a fuss. She'll come back.
17:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:09 Speaker 07 Did you ever cast any suspicion or doubt, suspicious of people in town or anything?
17:14 Speaker 04 No.
17:15 Speaker 03 No.
17:18 Speaker 01 Mary Ann and Sean didn't have any suspects, but almost a year later, they had to be ruled out as suspects themselves.
17:27 Speaker 03 Yes, we all were at one point. They asked us to take polygraphs and I agreed just to rule out being a suspect, so that they would get on with the case and find the person that did it. I did it willingly, knowing that it would clear me and would help the case. I would do, would have done anything at that time. And you went through two of them.
17:47 Speaker 04 I went through two. The first one was fairly basic. It didn't bother me too much. The second one was at a very tense time in my life. My employer at the time was on strike in 1999. I had the interview over at Mal Forest OPB station in, I believe it was October of 1999. And I was interviewed by one of their forensic people from Kingston, supposedly one of their head people. It was very, very intense. It was about a four to
18:27 Speaker 04 five hour process and they accused me in many different ways of murdering Christine, strangling, rape, shooting her, drowning her, and just everything they could to push my buttons. What pushed my buttons the most during this process, I know that they were videotaping and, and recording the session, they mentioned that they had Paul Bernardo in another room. They wanted to know what my thoughts were.
19:03 Speaker 01 Paul Bernardo was a serial rapist and murderer in Ontario in the 1980s and 1990s. He and his partner Carla Homolka horribly murdered two young women. Bernardo had been arrested and jailed months before Chrissy disappeared, so using his name here was a tactic to get Shaun talking.
19:23 Speaker 04 And with myself already being bipolar and things that were going on in my life at that time, I completely lost it. I jumped out of my seat. I seem to remember throwing a couple of things around. I just said, "Let me at the son of a bitch, because only one of us is gonna walk out of their room alive." I completely lost control. They tried to calm me down. I shook them off. All I had in my mind was looking for Paul Bernardo. I wanted at him. And I wanted him dead. And that's the last I can remember.
19:58 Speaker 01 Russ Worm had been at work until 3:00 PM in Durham, Ontario at the time Chrissy disappeared, about a 15-minute drive away from Hanover. After work, he drove to Mary Anne's, where he heard that Christine had left for school shortly before he arrived.
20:14 Speaker 07 And what did they tell you about the results of either of those polygraphs that you took, Shaun?
20:19 Speaker 04 That I was cleared. As far as they were concerned, I had nothing to do with it. What they said, they had to do what they had to do to prove that I was not guilty.
20:31 Speaker 01 Shaun and Mary Anne did pass their first polygraph tests, according to documents, and neither was ever arrested or charged in Christine's case.
20:41 Speaker 04 Do I wish anyone to ever go through a process like that? No, it's hell. It's not a very nice process. But they did everything that they needed to do, and I commend them for doing it. I just still wish that we had something more to bring justice and bring Christine home.
21:02 Speaker 03 I did know before the night was over she was dead, though. Call it mother's intuition, or whatever, I knew she was gone.
21:23 Speaker 01 There weren't many Christine Heron news reports to look at early on in my investigation. Items I could find talked about the local Hanover police making no headway in Christine's case, claiming even a year later that there was no evidence of foul play. Even though Chrissy had left her house without her ID, any extra clothing, or the $80 in birthday money she had just received, police continued to suggest that she was a runaway, that there were sightings of her. Christine was in Toronto with skinheads who had been seen in Hanover. She'd dyed her hair blond and shaved the side of her head, or she'd left home to go live with her father Lauren out west. But she never appeared there, or Toronto, or was seen anywhere else again after May
22:08 Speaker 01 18th, 1993.
22:12 Speaker 04 Mary Ann and I spent a lot of time, the first six months to a year, we went to Kitchener, London, Toronto. Where else did we go, dear? I can't even remember.
22:27 Speaker 01 Even if police weren't looking for Christine, Mary Ann and Sean were trying their best.
22:32 Speaker 04 Every chance we had going to places that we probably, we checked shelters. We went into, I'm not sure if it's a halfway house, or a drug house, or what it was.
22:44 Speaker 01 The media would report on these supposed sightings of Chrissy and help to generate more rumors. And to make matters worse, according to Mary Ann, the few articles that were written were often filled with inaccuracy.
22:58 Speaker 03 I found that whenever you tried to tell them something, they twisted it into something else. It was never what you were trying to explain.
23:10 Speaker 03 They always just took bits and pieces and made their own sentences.
23:13 Speaker 04 It wasn't always the truth. The truth that we had said. So it became frustrating and upsetting, to the point where we just had to refuse to speak with them. We were so scared of jeopardizing Christine's case that we shut out all reporters for quite a while.
23:38 Speaker 04 Until now.
23:42 Speaker 03 I've kept most of the clippings for the newspapers all these years. Got those and the posters.
23:53 Speaker 03 Typical girl.
23:56 Speaker 07 So, do you think that there's a chance in this case still? Or what's your aim then?
24:02 Speaker 03 I want it solved. Justice is solved.
24:06 Speaker 04 I think there's still a chance. And I hope...
24:13 Speaker 04 I hope this will bring her home.
24:17 Speaker 04 Well, we'll do our best.
24:20 Speaker 03 No barking.
24:21 Speaker 04 Sure you will.
24:24 Speaker 03 But Hannover does not feel like home anymore.
24:28 Speaker 03 Ever since she went missing.
24:29 Speaker 04 No, not us.
24:31 Speaker 03 It's not our home.
24:40 Speaker 05 We had the same homeroom in grade nine. So the only desk was right beside her. So that's how I met her. And from there, we pretty much were like fast friends. Like Christine was very shy.
24:57 Speaker 01 Cindy Galen McPherson, one of Christine Heron's school friends.
25:01 Speaker 05 I mean, if you didn't know her, it took a long time to kind of get to know her. And a lot of people liked to pick on her because she was really easy to pick on. How so? If somebody said, "Well, why don't you go do this?", she'd go and do it because she wanted to be accepted. People would like throw in a locker. She'd just stay there until like we were gone and I'd come and be like, "Okay, you can quit out now." She really wasn't one for conflict either. If people were fighting or if there was a chance that they could be fighting, she was out of there.
25:38 Speaker 05 We'd hang out pretty much every weekend.
25:43 Speaker 05 The day she disappeared, I phoned her house, then her mom answered, and I'm like, "Is Chrissy there?" She's like, "No, she hasn't gotten home from school yet." I thought it was kinda weird, and I'm like, "Well, she didn't, she wasn't at school." And her mom's like, "Oh, okay." And then, I think it was about two hours later, I got another phone call, and she's like, "Are you sure Chrissy isn't there?" And I'm like, "No."
26:08 Speaker 01 Cindy and her father drove the roads that Chrissy might have traveled to get to their farm.
26:14 Speaker 05 We didn't see her, so my dad's like, "Well, we can't stay out," you know, so I went home. And I phoned her mom, and I said, "Well, we didn't find her on any other roads coming from Hanover."
26:27 Speaker 01 Cindy had spoken to Chrissy on the phone the night before she disappeared. They were planning the May long weekend where Chrissy was supposed to come to Cindy's farm.
26:38 Speaker 05 So, like, I was the last person to talk to her. And everything seemed fine, she was excited, she loved being at my house because of all the animals and everything like that. Being May, we had baby goats and sheep and calves and pigs, and she was excited to come and see them. And I didn't really think anything was up.
27:01 Speaker 05 Okay, so the police, then, did they talk to you? Every couple of years, they come and they try to get...
27:08 Speaker 01 Cindy says she spoke to police several times over the years, and that sometimes they would insist that Cindy knew more, that she knew where Chrissy was. But she didn't. The best Cindy could do was tell police about what Chrissy was like, her routines and habits, certain places she liked to go.
27:29 Speaker 05 Chrissy used to go and put on the swings at the park and just drink. She said that's what she liked to do, and she wanted to think, was go and sit on the swings. Like, Chrissy was a very good friend to me. And, uh, it kinda hurts me to know that she's missed out on a lot of stuff that I've gotten to do. What's your theory? Everyone's got one. I think somebody picked her up because she would've gotten into a car with somebody. You think that she would have run into a stranger's car? If they were nice to her, probably. She was like just striving for some sort of, oh, adult approval.
28:07 Speaker 05 So if you were older and you were nice to her, she would like move having a nurse to keep that like, uh, um, I don't even know the word I'm looking for. That kind of attention? Yeah, to keep that attention on her. So, um, you think she got into a car and you think that it was the wrong car? I honestly do.
28:34 Speaker 01 It should be noted here that some feel Chrissy would be shy of strangers or even run away from them if she were alone.
28:42 Speaker 05 It just, for sure she would have phoned me if she was still alive, like, for sure she would have phoned me. And I kinda knew deep down, I had the feeling, I'm like, she's not around anymore. She's dead.
29:02 Speaker 01 I'm sitting in the passenger seat as Shaun and Mary Anne give me a short tour of Hanover. Main street, the river, the school, the park. Population about seventy-seven hundred, Hanover rose and then fell as a furniture-making capital of Canada, with much of that business gone now overseas. A town at the time of her disappearance, down on its luck, but where Chrissy called home. Shaun and Mary Anne moved not long after Chrissy disappeared to shelter themselves from what sounds like an onslaught of neighbors.
29:39 Speaker 03 They were very rude with us.
29:40 Speaker 04 A lot of, a lot of negativity.
29:43 Speaker 03 Yeah. I actually had phone calls. You get a lot of calls in the middle of the night, we're hanging up, so we, uh,
29:53 Speaker 03 had the Hanover police put a trace on our phone. So they could try and find out who was doing the phone calls, but they never did.
30:03 Speaker 01 A brief flurry of police activity surrounded a call that a boy going into grade 10 named Mark Kuntz received in July 1993, a couple of months after Chrissy disappeared. The call, Kuntz told his parents and police, came from someone who said they were Chrissy. The girl on the other end said she was calling from a payphone and that she was near one of the abandoned factories in town. The person on the phone said she had run out of money and asked Kuntz to meet her behind a shed near the school. She also told him that she wanted to have sex with him. Kuntz says the person sounded like Chrissy, but when he went to the shed with police standing by, nobody appeared.
30:47 Speaker 01 Later that night, another call came in where the girl's voice asked Kuntz if he had told police. He said he had, and the voice said, "Thanks a lot," and hung up. Kuntz admitted later that he had previously received crank calls on other topics, and also that he had not heard Chrissy's voice for well over a year and barely knew her or saw her even then.
31:11 Speaker 04 We had asked for the OPP to be able to step in. We pleaded with Hanover Police to bring the OPP in. They said, "No, it's their jurisdiction. They don't have to bring an outside source in." And it turned out to be six years later before we were able to have the OPP come in.
31:30 Speaker 01 In 1999, Hanover Police requested the assistance of the Ontario Provincial Police on Chrissy's case. At that time, a cataloguing of the case was undertaken by the OPP, and new interviews were conducted, along with re-interviews. DNA samples were taken from Mary Anne and a profile obtained for Chrissy from a tube of her lipstick. A reward fund for $30,000 was renewed on the 10-year anniversary of Chrissy's disappearance. In 2003, one of the original investigating officers on the case, Stanley Edwards, is charged with several criminal offences, including robbing a bank, forcible confinement,
32:14 Speaker 01 and sexual assault. None of the charges were connected to Chrissy's case.
32:22 Speaker 07 Let's move back now. This talks will be a nice and quiet place. Did you ever receive any documents from the OPP about the case?
32:30 Speaker 03 No. The OPP wouldn't let us know anything.
32:35 Speaker 07 And since that time, we're now in 2011 here, what has the OPP done, or to your knowledge? How have they communicated to you?
32:43 Speaker 03 They followed up on some other leads, but we've never been told any results from those. We haven't heard from them, so as far as I know, the case is closed.
32:56 Speaker 07 I'll get into telling you what I know to myself. I'm gonna leave you with some today that you guys can read.
33:04 Speaker 01 Back at Mary Anne and Sean's place, I share some documents with them that the Ontario Ministry of the Attorney General has sent me. The basic story that they tell is known to Mary Anne and Sean, but the crucial details have remained hidden and out of reach. Until now.
33:23 Speaker 01 Details about a local man named Anthony, who had a frustrating night at an August 2004 party. He'd had a few drinks, and then confessed to killing Christine Heron.
33:47 Speaker 01 This season on Someone Knows Something: The Christine Heron Case.
33:51 Speaker 04 The Crown Attorney told us it was a slam dunk at one point. He was ninety percent sure he was gonna be convicted.
34:01 Speaker 07 Listen to me very carefully. Right now, you're under arrest for the murder of Christine Heron because you told that police officer that you killed her. This story here, movie, till the day I die, pumpkin doesn't-
34:13 Speaker 01 Weave these lips.
34:17 Speaker 01 Did you know Christie?
34:20 Speaker 01 Did you kill Christie? Why did you confess to her murder?
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