KHC 172 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 20

Join us for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly podcast episode where we discuss James’ First Buck at Cactus Jack Ranch and Cam’s own epic Cactus Jack harvest, complete with horseback adventures and memories of Cam’s grandpa. They’ll discuss the Treadmill Blackout Challenge from Matt Renz, a spotlight on the Lift. Run. Shoot. training app for those grinding in the gym, on the trail, and at the range, current social media trends and more! Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – James’ First Buck - Cactus Jack Coal Buck 00:07:22 – Cam’s Cactus Jack Buck, Horse Back Riding, & Cam’s Grandpa 00:11:30 – Treadmill Blackout Challenge - Matt Rens 00:12:55 – Grab Your Ankles 00:13:55 – Lift. Run. Shoot. Training App 00:15:06 – Social Media Trends: the GOAT, 10 Year Glow-Ups, and Power Slaps 00:22:16 – Trainers That Use AI Reviews 00:26:07 – Fernando Mendoza’s UNREAL Touchdown Run 00:27:48 – Haters Gonna Hate: Jeremy Miller 00:32:34 – Upcoming Guests: Jayson Hopper, Rachel Entrekin, and Savannah 00:36:53 – Chris Brackett: Redemption Story 00:40:54 – Final Thoughts & Quote of the Week Thank you to our sponsors: Wild Alaskan Company: https://wildalaskancompany.com/cameron use code CAMERON for $35 off your first box Ketone IQ: https://www.ketone.com/Cam use code CAM for 30% off your first subscription Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 10% your order Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off LMNT: Visit https://drinklmnt.com/cam for a free sample pack with any purchase

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• 0:00Cameron Hanes?

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• 0:45Cameron Hanes?

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• 1:28Cameron Hanes?

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• 2:10Cameron Hanes?

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• 2:33Cameron Hanes?

  All right. This is the Keep Hammering Collective. This is not the Keep Hammering Collective. Check one.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  Check two.

• 2:38Cameron Hanes?

  Check two, check two, check three, check. This is Shit Talkers Weekly, dose, times 10.

• 2:49Cameron Hanes?

  That's a story problem.

• 2:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. How many apples did I have?

• 2:56Speaker 01

  Reading comprehension.

• 2:58Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Okay. So let's pay attention here. Um, we could do the, we could make a multiple choice. So dose times 10, five?

• 3:09Speaker 01

  A.

• 3:10Cameron Hanes?

  Five. B, seven. C, all of the above.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  Oh, usually when there's all of the above, it's that.

• 3:20Cameron Hanes?

  Indeed, none of the above.

• 3:23Speaker 01

  That's tricky.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  Smash that comment button once.

• 3:29Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, that's another thing. I cannot stand when people, to me, when somebody's like, "Hey, I really appreciate the reviews and five star whatever on the podcast." To me, that's like, you're begging.

• 3:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:43Cameron Hanes?

  You're like, "Excuse me. Excuse me, sir. Could I, could I have a couple? Could I have a, borrow a quarter for a burger today and I'll pay you back tomorrow, sir?" It's like, I don't hear reviews.

• 4:00Speaker 01

  I'm gonna beg for, for a, we don't give a about your.

• 4:05Cameron Hanes?

  I don't care if you've been listening.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Are we doing cuss words on this one? This should be the one.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  People get bit, get.

• 4:16Cameron Hanes?

  What?

• 4:18Speaker 01

  Would you like to buy a vowel?

• 4:21Speaker 01

  Today, Junior? People have been getting pissed about us bleeping cuss words.

• 4:27Cameron Hanes?

  We can't win.

• 4:29Speaker 01

  I know.

• 4:29Cameron Hanes?

  We can't win.

• 4:31Speaker 01

  We're getting it from all sides.

• 4:33Cameron Hanes?

  God, you guys are over the top. It's whatever. It's like, then we're sick of the edited. So, hey, I got some advice.

• 4:45Cameron Hanes?

  You don't like it? Don't listen.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I have another piece of advice. If you do like it and listen.

• 4:50Cameron Hanes?

  Smash that like button.

• 4:53Speaker 01

  Wop, wop, wop, wop. It's all love.

• 4:57Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Oh, was that it?

• 4:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:58Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  Just so people remember.

• 5:00Cameron Hanes?

  No, even if you don't like it, it's all love. Just go on with love.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. Go diddle yourself somewhere else.

• 5:08Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, we're good.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  So, all right, well, we got some things to talk about.

• 5:14Cameron Hanes?

  Big buck killer. Big buck killer.

• 5:17Speaker 01

  You want that to be first?

• 5:18Cameron Hanes?

  Is that on the list?

• 5:19Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 5:20Cameron Hanes?

  Jay Dog.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  Actually, it's not, but.

• 5:22Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, tell me.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, it is.

• 5:24Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, you killed a buck?

• 5:26Speaker 01

  I did.

• 5:26Cameron Hanes?

  How was that?

• 5:27Speaker 01

  It was good. It took five arrows and an extra shot from a gun.

• 5:33Cameron Hanes?

  In dogs?

• 5:36Speaker 01

  Tore that thing apart. No meat.

• 5:39Cameron Hanes?

  But it's pretty dead.

• 5:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. No, it was good. I got to shoot a management buck, a coal buck, not a management buck, a coal buck down at Cactus Jack, which is where you're a member. So, I'm super grateful for that. It was really fun. Also, pretty nerve wracking.

• 5:55Cameron Hanes?

  Well, it wasn't your bow. It was Jake's bow, the ranch manager at Cactus Jack.

• 6:00Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 6:00Cameron Hanes?

  Nice, nicest guy ever.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  Shout out Jake.

• 6:03Cameron Hanes?

  Jake Albritton.

• 6:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:05Cameron Hanes?

  Such a stud, cutest little kid. Yeah, just, but anyway, he had a good Matthews. You're shooting that pretty good. Draw length was about the same. And skipped a few off the ground getting ready, which I was like, oh, boy.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, you were like, hmm, maybe we're not hunting.

• 6:25Cameron Hanes?

  But when it came down to the moment of truth, tell me.

• 6:28Speaker 01

  What happened is I switched to that wise guy. And when I loosed my arrow with tipped with a.

• 6:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Thunder grain 125.

• 6:37Speaker 01

  Thunder cheeks.

• 6:41Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, you gotta go back. My, my Easton tipped thunderhead 125.

• 6:49Cameron Hanes?

  Released from my Cobra Matthews.

• 6:51Speaker 01

  With my helical patterned fletches.

• 6:53Cameron Hanes?

  Scorpion stinger.

• 6:56Speaker 01

  Yes. Tipped with scorpion venom.

• 7:02Speaker 01

  No.

• 7:02Cameron Hanes?

  You made a great shot.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was good. Um, had a bunch of deer coming there and then for some reason, I have no idea why. They all spooked.

• 7:12Cameron Hanes?

  Wasn't you?

• 7:13Speaker 01

  No, and the fart definitely wasn't louder than I thought it was gonna be.

• 7:18Speaker 01

  But, uh.

• 7:18Cameron Hanes?

  Just coincidence.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  My phone was dying and I was shooting pictures to Jake of bucks that had come in so I could confirm this is a cold buck.

• 7:25Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  And it was at like 3% and this deer was kind of coming in across the field and I was like, ah, probably not. Put the binos on him and he had this weird little kind of cagey. Like a basket thing going on with like a little crab claw and I was like, oh, maybe. So I took a picture of it. Sent it to Jake and I was like, my phone's gonna die, so I'll probably just sit tight until you get here. And he responded pretty quick and was like, kill him.

• 7:45Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, nice.

• 7:46Speaker 01

  Like, alright. And then my phone died. Deer hung out for maybe 10, 15 minutes. Um, I came to full drawn him twice. And either a deer walked behind him or I just wasn't super comfortable. He was at like 28 to 32. And I knew on the, the near side of the cottonseed was like 26, 24. So I was like, I'll wait. I told myself the, the, uh.

• 8:12Speaker 01

  Disappointment of watching the deer walk away was far less than disappointment of making a bad shot and having to deal with that shit show.

• 8:19Cameron Hanes?

  For sure.

• 8:20Speaker 01

  So anyways, he comes in front of the cottonseed, stops, opens his leg a little bit quartering away. And yeah, just made a good shot. So I, uh, yeah, it, it went in, hit the far shoulder and bounced out. And, uh, he took off across the field and I was like, oh no.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was like, I thought I made a good shot. I felt really good. And then he piled up.

• 8:42Cameron Hanes?

  Were you shaking?

• 8:43Speaker 01

  No, I was good. I was on the first one, but you know, he's there for so long, you, you calm your nerves down.

• 8:48Cameron Hanes?

  Good.

• 8:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was good. Uh, that was, yeah, it was fun.

• 8:51Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 8:52Speaker 01

  Biggest buck.

• 8:53Cameron Hanes?

  He didn't make it 20.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  Didn't go 20.

• 8:55Cameron Hanes?

  Didn't go, he didn't make it out of the field. I know that.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, didn't go 75.

• 8:58Speaker 01

  Eighty, eighty-five.

• 9:00Cameron Hanes?

  Didn't go a hundred. I know he didn't go a hundred, but yeah, that, yeah, that was great.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. So thanks for letting me do that. That was, uh, that was awesome.

• 9:09Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. All it takes is about a hundred grand in membership fees and get a free call.

• 9:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't, I didn't know about.

• 9:17Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, you'll get the invoice. You'll get the invoice.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  Take it out of my paycheck.

• 9:25Speaker 01

  No paycheck.

• 9:27Cameron Hanes?

  Paycheck.

• 9:28Speaker 01

  But what do you call it?

• 9:33Cameron Hanes?

  I'd call it voluntold. You're voluntold what to do. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, good job on that. That was fun.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  So that was fun. You also.

• 9:43Cameron Hanes?

  I did. I did. We got, I don't know when this is coming out, probably never, but whatever. New bow and, uh, I guess we gotta, we'll have to sit on this until, well, yeah, maybe I just won't say anything. But brand new bow.

• 9:59Speaker 01

  Doesn't come out tomorrow?

• 10:00Cameron Hanes?

  Thursday.

• 10:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:03Cameron Hanes?

  Is today Tuesday?

• 10:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. No, Thursday.

• 10:07Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So anyway, had to get down there and, and, uh, christen the new bow with a kill and, uh, had a big old buck come in and made a good shot at, I think that was twenty-six. Or was that twenty-six? Something like that?

• 10:22Speaker 01

  Something right in there.

• 10:23Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Um, yeah. Smoked him and, uh, he did go twenty. He went further than twenty. How far did he think? Maybe a hundred?

• 10:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, maybe.

• 10:35Cameron Hanes?

  Maybe.

• 10:36Speaker 01

  It wasn't that far. We just walked around because we didn't find him.

• 10:38Cameron Hanes?

  I know. Yeah. I was like, I thought, well, you were filming from like the, the heist or the rifle stand. And you thought you heard, heard him pile up. So we kind of were focusing on that area and he just had kind of, uh, run beside, kind of, there's a road that goes in there. Dirt road and he was just piled up beside that, but didn't go anywhere.

• 10:57Speaker 01

  No, but yeah, that was fun. Uh, there was some, well,

• 11:04Speaker 01

  there wasn't really anybody else. There were some people in camp. Nice people. Good.

• 11:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, um, okay.

• 11:14Cameron Hanes?

  Did a horseback ride.

• 11:15Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 11:16Cameron Hanes?

  A little, yeah.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  That's on here.

• 11:18Cameron Hanes?

  So that was fun.

• 11:19Speaker 01

  How much, uh?

• 11:22Cameron Hanes?

  What was on, what's on there?

• 11:24Speaker 01

  Just says the horses.

• 11:25Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, the horses. Yeah, yeah. No, that's good. I like, uh, my goal was, I was on a run and I saw the horses out there. I'm like, I saw some halters, like the lead rope. I said, I think I could fashion out like a sort of a bridle, use a lead rope as reins, jump on their bare back. Good to go. So that's what we did. And it was fun.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, went perfectly.

• 11:49Cameron Hanes?

  It did, it did. Eventually it went perfectly.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:52Cameron Hanes?

  But, uh, no, it was great. Robin's horses are amazing. Robin and Tim, best people. Um, but yeah. So yeah, that might be part of my routine down there.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 12:03Cameron Hanes?

  I like that.

• 12:03Speaker 01

  Horseback riding. I'm terrified. I have like an actual phobia of horses.

• 12:06Cameron Hanes?

  Do you?

• 12:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. I wasn't kidding.

• 12:08Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  Oh, I was so scared in there. I don't know. I don't, it's like I've had it since I was little.

• 12:12Cameron Hanes?

  They're big.

• 12:13Speaker 01

  I am, I think that they want to kill me.

• 12:15Cameron Hanes?

  They're, I mean, they can. That's it. They're so big.

• 12:19Speaker 01

  I, I don't, I don't have it with like cows or anything else. It's just horses. I don't know. Like, I think every time they turn slightly away from me, they're just gonna kick me right in the face.

• 12:29Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, God, dude.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  It's like the bear thing. You know what I mean? Like they can feel my energy. So they're like, I'm gonna this up.

• 12:34Cameron Hanes?

  No, they definitely can. And I mean, my grandpa, you know, I, I've probably talked about it here, but so I worked for him. He, he ra- raised and, or bred quarter horses and raced them. So I would warm up the horses on the track like as a jo- he called a jockey boy. But anyway, he would shoe his horses also. Um, and one time he got kicked right in the quad and it broke his, cut his quad in half. So this, his quad had a huge divot in it from where he took a kick from a horse. How do you think that felt?

• 13:09Speaker 01

  Not good.

• 13:10Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 13:10Speaker 01

  Did it break his femur?

• 13:12Cameron Hanes?

  I can't even remember. I mean, he this is the kind of guy he was. He was 15, moved out of the house, lied about his age so he could go to, I guess it, what war would that have been? Anyway, wanted to go to war.

• 13:29Speaker 01

  Korea, maybe.

• 13:30Cameron Hanes?

  Probably Korea.

• 13:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:33Cameron Hanes?

  And yeah, and then rodeoed and was a frickin badass.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  Tough.

• 13:40Cameron Hanes?

  He was a, it, you think working for me is not fun sometimes? You would really hate working for him.

• 13:48Speaker 01

  Um, okay. Something else, something random.

• 13:52Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 13:52Speaker 01

  But I came across this guy on Instagram who's doing what he calls a treadmill blackout. His name is Matt Rens.

• 13:58Speaker 02

  It's day 20 of treadmill blackout.

• 14:00Speaker 03

  We're running mile at every treadmill setting, 15% incline to 12 miles an hour. At four miles an hour.

• 14:09Speaker 03

  One mile, 12%. Send this to somebody who needs 634 feet of gain in their life.

• 14:14Speaker 02

  We're pushing our nope slope to the right. We're making progress.

• 14:18Speaker 01

  Okay. So you know, like a treadmill has 15% grade, 12% or 12 speed. Those are like the full settings. So this year, his goal, he's got it up on a whiteboard is to do each one of those settings. So 15% grade at 12 speed and everything in between.

• 14:35Cameron Hanes?

  For how long?

• 14:35Speaker 01

  For a mile.

• 14:36Cameron Hanes?

  A mile?

• 14:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:38Cameron Hanes?

  Ooh, that's gonna be brutal.

• 14:40Speaker 01

  I know. He's tried, he's like, so far there's a line that goes across the grid. It's like, he can't go over it. He needs, you know, more endurance.

• 14:47Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 14:47Speaker 01

  But I was like, that's, I don't think anyone can.

• 14:51Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  15%?

• 14:53Cameron Hanes?

  Maybe Killian Journe.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  I mean, that's faster than a.

• 14:57Cameron Hanes?

  Cause he's got like the V, somebody, I don't know. He's done these VK, which is a vertical K. They run up, they race that.

• 15:06Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 15:07Cameron Hanes?

  And I don't know.

• 15:08Speaker 01

  He's got like the record?

• 15:09Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know, but anyway.

• 15:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:11Cameron Hanes?

  If anybody could do something like that.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  I had a, another note on here that said,

• 15:20Speaker 01

  grab your ankles.

• 15:22Cameron Hanes?

  Ooh.

• 15:24Cameron Hanes?

  That, see, that could go a couple of different ways, but where that went was when I would get in trouble from my dad. So it's like, we have the two different families here. We got the mom and stepdad, which.

• 15:38Cameron Hanes?

  Rough.

• 15:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:40Cameron Hanes?

  The stepmom dad, which was usually okay, except for when I would do something stupid.

• 15:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 15:49Cameron Hanes?

  And then when that would happen, it would just be grab your ankles. So that means you're going to get your ass whooped. So you bend over, grab your ankles and then not good.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  That means something different in my heart.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  Usually my boyfriend's.

• 16:06Cameron Hanes?

  That's a family reunion for you.

• 16:09Speaker 01

  Hey, my uncle tells me.

• 16:12Cameron Hanes?

  God.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  Okay. I had another, you know, we got this app that people have been using. We haven't officially, it's launched, but we haven't like pushed it. Anyways, someone had a great recommendation on there. I think you'll like this. It's the same app, but for whitetail guys.

• 16:27Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 16:28Speaker 01

  Lift, run, endure. This is quote, lift, run, endurance in the stand and shoot.

• 16:34Cameron Hanes?

  Endurance in the stand. So just sitting. Lit. So why are they lifting and running? I don't, okay. Cause.

• 16:44Speaker 01

  You think that's a good one?

• 16:45Cameron Hanes?

  If you're whitetail hunting, basically you don't have to do anything.

• 16:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:50Cameron Hanes?

  Do you? You just bolt your whisker biscuit on your bow and shoot at 20.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  Listen, guys, you know, I had the controversial take after I did the 50K.

• 17:00Cameron Hanes?

  And of course, I'm just talking shit. It's all love. I love white. I actually love whitetail hunting. It's actually fun. So I'm not, I'm just joking.

• 17:08Speaker 01

  Oh, it's really fun. Just like the 50K's.

• 17:10Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  Because it's not really.

• 17:12Cameron Hanes?

  They're so easy.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  Well, that'll, that'll ruffle some feathers for sure.

• 17:18Cameron Hanes?

  Just a joke.

• 17:18Speaker 01

  It's just love, guys. It's all, well, it's not just love. It's all love.

• 17:22Cameron Hanes?

  It's all love, not just love.

• 17:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, something else I saw on Instagram that this has really started to piss me off is uh, people calling their friends or people they know are commenting like the goat.

• 17:36Cameron Hanes?

  Oh yeah. That's, that's, people do that a lot. I say Tom Brady is the goat.

• 17:41Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 17:43Cameron Hanes?

  Levi Morgan's the goat.

• 17:45Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 17:46Cameron Hanes?

  Of shooting.

• 17:50Cameron Hanes?

  MJ MJ is definitely the goat.

• 17:53Speaker 01

  You the MJ guy?

• 17:55Cameron Hanes?

  Well, you're not.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  No, no, I'm it's not that it's not that I'm not.

• 17:59Cameron Hanes?

  What?

• 18:00Speaker 01

  I don't and I don't think it's LeBron.

• 18:03Cameron Hanes?

  What?

• 18:03Speaker 01

  I think.

• 18:04Cameron Hanes?

  You better say Kobe. You.

• 18:07Speaker 01

  I think here in a couple of years, there could be real conversation for Steph Curry.

• 18:12Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 18:13Speaker 01

  The impact he's had on the game.

• 18:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, he's changed the game, but.

• 18:17Speaker 01

  He gets a couple more rings.

• 18:18Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, but did he get the rings or with would he got him without KD? Or would Katie have got, you know, there's that argument.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 18:27Cameron Hanes?

  The super teams.

• 18:27Speaker 01

  MJ with Pippen.

• 18:30Cameron Hanes?

  They were drafted. They were drafted.

• 18:32Speaker 01

  Right, but.

• 18:33Cameron Hanes?

  They did.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  One without the other.

• 18:34Cameron Hanes?

  No super team.

• 18:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:36Cameron Hanes?

  No super team.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  I mean, yeah.

• 18:38Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So anyway, was what was your point about the goat?

• 18:42Speaker 01

  Oh, I just don't like.

• 18:43Cameron Hanes?

  People like.

• 18:44Speaker 01

  Don't call somebody the goat. That's not the goat.

• 18:46Cameron Hanes?

  Like, give me an example.

• 18:47Speaker 01

  Like. Okay.

• 18:49Cameron Hanes?

  J. Mew.

• 18:55Cameron Hanes?

  Just kidding.

• 18:57Cameron Hanes?

  It's all love, baby.

• 19:00Cameron Hanes?

  That started a whole.

• 19:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that's on my list, too. We'll be talking about that. So.

• 19:06Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 19:06Speaker 01

  J. Mew taste. Stay tuned.

• 19:08Cameron Hanes?

  Who's the goat?

• 19:09Speaker 01

  No, I'm just mean like somebody.

• 19:10Cameron Hanes?

  That's not the goat.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  Somebody like benches 225 for the first time. They're like, you're the goat, bro.

• 19:15Cameron Hanes?

  Well, when you do it for your first time, we'll call you the goat. Would that be better?

• 19:20Speaker 01

  I already did it for my first time. I'm a has been.

• 19:24Cameron Hanes?

  That's right. That's right.

• 19:25Speaker 01

  Now I'm running for now I'm training.

• 19:26Cameron Hanes?

  Have I ever seen you do 225? I don't think so. I think this is all hearsay and innuendo.

• 19:35Speaker 01

  You have to subscribe to my only fans to see.

• 19:38Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, you know, okay. You know what? I don't know. I haven't done it yet. Have you done it like?

• 19:45Speaker 01

  Don't.

• 19:46Cameron Hanes?

  The 10 year 26 to God, people are balls deep on that, aren't they?

• 19:53Speaker 01

  I think it's gay.

• 19:54Cameron Hanes?

  Well, because normally here's how it works. When you're 16, you're just gangly dork.

• 20:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:01Cameron Hanes?

  And then like when you're 26, you should be kind of a stud. So it was kind of fun to show that.

• 20:05Speaker 01

  Well, some of us don't have that.

• 20:08Cameron Hanes?

  Well, maybe 36.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:10Cameron Hanes?

  Maybe it'll be you get 10 more.

• 20:11Speaker 01

  2036, 2026.

• 20:14Cameron Hanes?

  So, but like for me, like if I go back 10 years, however, so I was like cut in a lot better shape, probably looked 10 years younger. Now I'm just old. So I don't want to put up this where people are like, oh, man, you look, you looked way better 10 years ago.

• 20:32Speaker 01

  Do you think you could have run yourself under the table though 10 years ago?

• 20:36Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah.

• 20:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. So you're a better runner now.

• 20:39Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, no.

• 20:40Speaker 01

  Oh, you think you're better then?

• 20:43Cameron Hanes?

  2016, I did my first 200 in 2016. I did Bigfoot, got eighth.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  That's pretty.

• 20:49Cameron Hanes?

  Could I have done that? Could I do that now?

• 20:52Speaker 01

  Well, but the field, I mean, I feel like the fields are stacked, more stacked now.

• 20:57Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm. I don't know.

• 20:59Speaker 01

  So that what I'm saying is that eighth place doesn't really count.

• 21:03Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know. It's like a 50th place.

• 21:05Speaker 01

  Got to adjust for inflation.

• 21:06Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Yeah. Cost of living.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  I don't know. I, if I did, I think people would shit their pants if I showed what I looked like in 2016.

• 21:15Cameron Hanes?

  Really? With the hair? Is that the long hair?

• 21:19Speaker 01

  You gotta see this. There's no audio on it now. You gotta see this video.

• 21:23Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 21:24Speaker 01

  It's.

• 21:25Cameron Hanes?

  This'll be fun. We got Macy, put this out.

• 21:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, I can say, I don't know if I want this. This is bad.

• 21:31Cameron Hanes?

  Nobody's gonna see it. Don't worry. Nobody's even listening. We got canceled.

• 21:40Cameron Hanes?

  Holy shit. Is that a male?

• 21:45Speaker 01

  I'm saying.

• 21:47Cameron Hanes?

  Is that a video?

• 21:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:49Cameron Hanes?

  You're skinny.

• 21:50Speaker 01

  I'm.

• 21:51Cameron Hanes?

  Let me see the video. Let's see it play. What are you doing? Going to flex?

• 21:53Speaker 01

  No.

• 21:56Speaker 01

  It was the, like, this is like a frozen pond and.

• 21:59Cameron Hanes?

  Dude, you look like any other 16 year.

• 22:02Speaker 01

  Oh, my.

• 22:03Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  I look like I just.

• 22:04Cameron Hanes?

  You're actually shredded. What are you talking about?

• 22:07Speaker 01

  Well, okay, I'm not.

• 22:08Cameron Hanes?

  You almost hit your face on the edge of the boat, but.

• 22:12Speaker 01

  Macy, I'll send that to you.

• 22:14Cameron Hanes?

  No, I, you look norm, you look like a normal, normal 16 year old.

• 22:18Speaker 01

  You think?

• 22:19Cameron Hanes?

  Yes, dude.

• 22:20Speaker 01

  Six foot and 115 pounds?

• 22:22Cameron Hanes?

  You're shredded.

• 22:24Speaker 01

  That's what you're calling shredded?

• 22:26Cameron Hanes?

  You could be a mount, a cliff, or what is that, rock climber?

• 22:29Speaker 01

  I was.

• 22:30Cameron Hanes?

  Alex Honnold?

• 22:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, Alex Honnold. I, I look like, for everybody that's not watching, the videos, uh, me with, um, Kylie Jenner, we were dating at the time, and I look like Timothy Chalamet.

• 22:43Cameron Hanes?

  I thought, no, I thought that was Brad Pitt from Fight Club.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 22:47Cameron Hanes?

  I didn't know with the hair, cause he had short hair, but you had longer hair. So I was like, what is going on?

• 22:53Speaker 01

  Confusing, for sure.

• 22:54Cameron Hanes?

  This is weird. It's like, or wait, no, maybe it's a more autistic Alex Honnold?

• 23:01Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 23:01Cameron Hanes?

  I didn't know.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good point. But yeah, no, it, it was me.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  Okay. Well.

• 23:10Cameron Hanes?

  Not Brad Pitt.

• 23:12Speaker 01

  Okay. Hopefully this isn't too far.

• 23:14Cameron Hanes?

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• 23:57Cameron Hanes?

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• 24:35Cameron Hanes?

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• 25:20Cameron Hanes?

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• 25:56Speaker 01

  But this is another note from one of our conversations.

• 25:58Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, God.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  You're familiar with the slap league?

• 26:02Cameron Hanes?

  Yes.

• 26:03Speaker 01

  So imagine if it was slap league but with your penis.

• 26:08Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Yeah, I know. That would be... See, I think that would get the viewer numbers up. It's called power slap.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 26:16Cameron Hanes?

  So power penis.

• 26:22Speaker 01

  And you win if you can leave a mushroom stamp.

• 26:24Cameron Hanes?

  And it's just the frickin', it's hips, dude. You just gotta get sort of the momentum, like you go back one way, then boosh. I mean, you've done it.

• 26:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, some guys are definitely a big advantage.

• 26:37Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 26:38Speaker 01

  Some of us, you know, really.

• 26:39Cameron Hanes?

  Not so much.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  Activate the hips.

• 26:43Cameron Hanes?

  The glutes?

• 26:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:44Cameron Hanes?

  No, you got to activate the glutes, too.

• 26:46Speaker 01

  Oh, that's right.

• 26:47Cameron Hanes?

  But anyway, yeah, the Power Penis League, look out for it.

• 26:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, so stay tuned on that. We're starting a new league.

• 26:53Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 26:53Speaker 01

  Sponsored by. Shit Talkers Weekly.

• 26:57Cameron Hanes?

  That's the only sponsor we'll have.

• 26:59Speaker 01

  Right now, we only have two athletes.

• 27:01Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, and Shit Talkers Weekly will probably cancel us also.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, probably. The Shit Talkers Weekly is getting canceled. This is the final episode, so thanks for listening.

• 27:14Speaker 01

  No.

• 27:17Speaker 01

  Okay, this one I got to tread lightly around.

• 27:19Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  Let me think about. Okay, so if you are a trainer, let's say,

• 27:31Speaker 01

  and you post

• 27:33Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, boy.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  reviews from clients that actually aren't from clients but are instead from ChatGPT, talking about how good you are. Do you think that's a good look?

• 27:47Cameron Hanes?

  That doesn't seem legit.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  Especially when you look like.

• 27:53Cameron Hanes?

  I don't, I don't want to know who did. I don't want to have this image of who did this, but no, it's a.

• 28:02Cameron Hanes?

  If, if you have a client and you help them make improvements, great, that's how it works. We don't take work that another trainer has done and take credit for it, essentially, or maybe that individual did it on themselves or by themselves, and all of a sudden you're attaching.

• 28:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, to be fair, it could have been a client review and then they put it into ChatGPT to make it seem better.

• 28:27Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, maybe.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  Still, I think that's a gray area.

• 28:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 28:30Speaker 01

  But I just think it's hard, especially when you look like you had leg lengthening surgery.

• 28:38Cameron Hanes?

  Are you talking about me? Cause I was, I've been looking into that. I've been like, I could get up to five eight. If I could add like four more inches. Yeah. So am I, I mean, how long does that take for the shins to grow back?

• 28:52Speaker 01

  I think it's a like a couple of years. And then I think you're out for another couple of years. You can start walking in five years. Worth it.

• 29:01Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. So it's not arthroscopic?

• 29:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. Remember, God, arthroscopic?

• 29:08Cameron Hanes?

  What is it?

• 29:09Speaker 01

  Orthoscopic?

• 29:10Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know. Is it?

• 29:12Speaker 01

  I don't know either.

• 29:13Cameron Hanes?

  I'm not a doctor.

• 29:15Speaker 01

  But the problem is you can get leg lengthening surgery. So you're six feet. I don't think you can get dick lengthening surgery.

• 29:21Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, to match? So it would just make it look smaller, wouldn't it? That's not good.

• 29:26Speaker 01

  Proportions are gonna be way off.

• 29:28Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. You don't want, I mean, yeah. So it, what you, okay. You don't want to have like a, a human, like a full grown human with a baby dick.

• 29:46Cameron Hanes?

  But also you don't want a baby with a full.

• 29:52Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, so, yeah. I mean, it's actually some, we've got to think about this.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a stout observation.

• 30:00Cameron Hanes?

  No, you bring up a great point. Yeah. You brought up a great point.

• 30:09Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 30:10Speaker 01

  That may very well be the question of our generation.

• 30:12Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, exactly. And what was it?

• 30:19Cameron Hanes?

  What was the question of our generation?

• 30:21Speaker 01

  Oh, I think what would you, what's worse? A man with a baby penis or?

• 30:27Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I don't know. I mean, a baby could grow into it like a big nose.

• 30:41Speaker 01

  It's gonna be, diapers are gonna be rough for a couple of years.

• 30:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Look at the bull in that diaper. Holy shit.

• 30:58Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 31:00Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 31:00Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, man, I thought we were gonna do better on this one.

• 31:03Speaker 01

  Baby shit himself?

• 31:08Speaker 01

  National championship. Did you watch it?

• 31:11Cameron Hanes?

  I did. What a game.

• 31:13Speaker 01

  Dude, that was a great game.

• 31:15Cameron Hanes?

  Mendoza, that touchdown run?

• 31:18Speaker 01

  That was electric.

• 31:19Cameron Hanes?

  That was. He for a dorky white guy can ball.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  Dude, I've been saying this is like, that's exactly what it takes. You kind of need a kid who's just like dorks out on football.

• 31:31Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, my, he just, he lives for that shit, dude. He was saying, I would die for these guys and they would die for me.

• 31:37Speaker 01

  He was like, take shots in the back?

• 31:39Cameron Hanes?

  I know.

• 31:40Speaker 01

  Back shots?

• 31:41Cameron Hanes?

  What? Yeah, no, but that loves football and he's really good.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  I think that might be one of the best college football stories. Everything put together.

• 31:54Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  I mean, how sweet is his taste of victory?

• 31:57Cameron Hanes?

  Going back, going back to home, basically.

• 31:59Speaker 01

  Where you got denied to be a walk on?

• 32:02Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, he's a two star recruit, couldn't even make the, come on as a walk and then beat him in the national championship. And won the Heisman?

• 32:09Speaker 01

  It's pretty sick. And in a statement too, I mean, it's not like he, you know, his team carried him in that game.

• 32:15Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 32:15Speaker 01

  He had that rush and.

• 32:17Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I know. That was fourth down.

• 32:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:19Cameron Hanes?

  Got in the end zone. Yeah, that was, it would have been really nice if the Ducks could have been in that, but we decided not to be there.

• 32:28Speaker 01

  I don't know if he could have beat that story. I mean, they were destined to win.

• 32:32Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that was destiny.

• 32:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:33Cameron Hanes?

  For sure.

• 32:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, pretty crazy, especially with his mom and everything.

• 32:36Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know. It's a, that, yeah, that story's got to be one of the best of college football in a long time.

• 32:43Speaker 01

  I know. I hope they make a movie out of it.

• 32:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 32:46Speaker 01

  Make a good movie.

• 32:46Cameron Hanes?

  No, it would. It's amazing.

• 32:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, should we talk about the elephant in the room?

• 32:53Cameron Hanes?

  Sure.

• 32:54Speaker 01

  That we got.

• 32:57Speaker 01

  Did we get hate or were we the haters?

• 32:59Cameron Hanes?

  What'd we do?

• 33:00Speaker 01

  Jay Moe?

• 33:01Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, God.

• 33:04Cameron Hanes?

  Um, let me think about, let me think about this. Uh.

• 33:11Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't, I don't even know what his post was.

• 33:17Cameron Hanes?

  He'll never meet a hater doing better than you, but he was the one who was hating on Truitt. Nobody's ever hated on him.

• 33:25Cameron Hanes?

  So is he saying he's a hater and that's why Truitt's better?

• 33:29Speaker 01

  Hmm. I don't feel like we were hating on him.

• 33:32Cameron Hanes?

  No, that's what I'm saying. I wasn't hating on, I never.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  I think it's just like, and we say this all the time, talk some shit, get people like interested.

• 33:41Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  You know, they can't go head to head because we know who's going to win, but you could do something cool.

• 33:47Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I just did, when I went all the way back to Truitt got his PR at, what, I can't remember what that was.

• 33:55Speaker 01

  Was it St. George?

• 33:56Cameron Hanes?

  St. George, yeah. 2541, fastest he's ever, yes, it's downhill. Still as fast as PR, right? So it's like you, can we feel good about, hey, I just did this faster than I've ever done it? That's, but Jeremy has to go in there and pre, whatever. He wanted to throw shade on it. He pretended like he wasn't, but obviously he was. To say you weren't as weak, so whatever, you wanted to talk shit. Good job. We don't give a, all I said at that time was, cool, you're not invited to hang out with us. That's it. You can talk your shit, but you're going to be an outcast forever. Whatever, it doesn't matter. It's not like we ever hang out anyway. Who, who cares?

• 34:40Speaker 01

  Weekly dinners are canceled.

• 34:42Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's just like, it doesn't matter, dude. It, whatever.

• 34:46Speaker 01

  From, I guess, I don't know, other people's scope at the time, to us, we knew what Truitt, what his, you know, goal was. And so 225 didn't matter at all.

• 34:57Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  Whether it was downhill or up, it like, it doesn't matter because that's not the final stop.

• 35:01Cameron Hanes?

  No, it was part of the training.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 35:02Cameron Hanes?

  It was just like, as I said, it's just like running faster on a treadmill. So you get that leg turnover, right? So we just looked at it as like, hey, this is a good opportunity to push your limit and that's how you grow.

• 35:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. If, if Truitt was gonna be like, oh, I'm going to get under 231 and then I'm going to dip. Okay, sure. You can say, oh, well, it doesn't really count down at whatever, but 225 is nothing.

• 35:23Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 35:24Speaker 01

  Compared to where he's going. So.

• 35:25Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 35:26Speaker 01

  Why even talk about it?

• 35:27Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know. I, because people.

• 35:31Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, because it's social media and then people, you know, people are, we're humans. So we have emotions tied to different things and sometimes it comes out as support, hate. Sometimes it comes out weird. Sometimes it seems like criticism, but it wasn't. I don't really know. I don't give a

• 35:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:50Cameron Hanes?

  That's it.

• 35:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:51Cameron Hanes?

  Truitt is, is on to bigger things. If you want to talk shit about some other times he's got in some other races. Do it. It's great. There's in the Yeah. So whatever. It's just, it's just fricking stupid.

• 36:08Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, go Run, run, just do your shit.

• 36:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. People, I do think, you know, and I'm going to keep saying this, but I think like the comments, people get interested and they're like, oh, what's, people like drama.

• 36:19Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I know.

• 36:19Speaker 01

  Guys, it's not.

• 36:21Cameron Hanes?

  No, it's running drama.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. Like, you guys gonna fight?

• 36:27Speaker 01

  No.

• 36:28Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know. I did see, was Matt Johnson, did he comment on something?

• 36:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:33Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 36:34Speaker 01

  What did he say? Oh, it's probably because you put your PB time in your bio.

• 36:37Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I, I think my bio says bow hunter. So it's like,

• 36:47Cameron Hanes?

  I, I don't, oh, people, whatever.

• 36:51Speaker 01

  Mine says.

• 36:54Cameron Hanes?

  Dunkirk?

• 36:56Speaker 01

  Dunkirk. Yeah. If you're in this family, reach out to me. I'll give you your hat back.

• 36:59Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 37:00Speaker 01

  I don't even know how to pronounce your name. I got it off eBay.

• 37:04Cameron Hanes?

  It looks cool.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  Duke, Duke and

• 37:07Cameron Hanes?

  I don't even know. Do尼克, Do尼克? Doon in Nick, Do尼克.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  Do尼克.

• 37:14Cameron Hanes?

  I, I don't know, but

• 37:16Speaker 01

  Mr. And Mrs. Do尼克.

• 37:17Cameron Hanes?

  You got the safety award for them.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  Is that what it says?

• 37:20Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 37:21Speaker 01

  Damn straight.

• 37:22Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, you did. Safety first, baby.

• 37:24Speaker 01

  OSHA, right? I've never worked construction. Is that, is that who we're watching out for?

• 37:30Cameron Hanes?

  That is

• 37:31Speaker 01

  Something, yeah.

• 37:31Cameron Hanes?

  Here comes OSHA. Get your, get your hard hat on.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  Well, we got

• 37:35Cameron Hanes?

  That's usually how it goes.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  We got a busy next couple of days.

• 37:38Cameron Hanes?

  Oh my God, dude. I've been trying to forget about this. Holy shit.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  I know.

• 37:44Cameron Hanes?

  This is like, uh, I feel like I'm getting ready to go boot camp.

• 37:50Speaker 01

  It's gonna feel like that. And I woke up this morning feeling like shit.

• 37:53Cameron Hanes?

  What do you mean, sick?

• 37:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:55Cameron Hanes?

  Wow. You've been running?

• 37:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:59Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 38:00Speaker 01

  I did. Actually, I ran on Sunday, I ran a half and I felt.

• 38:05Cameron Hanes?

  Half mile?

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I felt so good for that half.

• 38:10Cameron Hanes?

  Half marathon, that's good.

• 38:12Speaker 01

  And I felt it was the best I've ever felt in a run.

• 38:14Cameron Hanes?

  Really?

• 38:15Speaker 01

  I was just cruising. Yeah.

• 38:16Cameron Hanes?

  And then today didn't?

• 38:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. I was at like, heart rate was like 145 and my pace was 920 maybe, which is bad for some people, but for me, I was like, actually enjoyed the run, which might be the first time ever.

• 38:29Cameron Hanes?

  Jeremy Miller would talk shit on you for that.

• 38:32Speaker 01

  Oh, it was a downhill. It was a loop, but it was all downhill.

• 38:38Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. No, that's not bad. I mean, heart, heart rate's kind of low. That's good.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:43Cameron Hanes?

  Means you're getting in better shape.

• 38:44Speaker 01

  Low for me. Yeah.

• 38:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So that's good. But hey, some days we've got good days, some days we've got bad days.

• 38:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, today's a bad day.

• 38:52Cameron Hanes?

  Um, if this helps you in any way, today I felt great.

• 38:57Speaker 01

  Oh, good. Okay. What'd you do?

• 38:59Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know.

• 39:00Speaker 01

  Oh, good.

• 39:01Cameron Hanes?

  This is my, this is my watch.

• 39:03Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Was your heart rate on?

• 39:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. It was a, uh, 645. What time it is. No, I ran from here to Alton Baker and back.

• 39:13Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a good one.

• 39:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's like 11, I think. I was, I was feeling so good. I was going to go further, but I'm like, this is usually, usually when I get hurt. So maybe before these freaks get here this weekend, maybe I just won't get hurt for a change. How about that?

• 39:32Speaker 01

  That'd be nice.

• 39:32Cameron Hanes?

  Won't tweak something? So I actually came back and I don't dare I say the last couple of days I felt pretty good.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  You, you maybe throw in there though, like you have something that kind of, just in case.

• 39:49Cameron Hanes?

  Uh, feel pretty good other than my, yeah.

• 39:53Speaker 01

  IT band.

• 39:54Cameron Hanes?

  IT band.

• 39:57Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no, it's something will come up, but old Jay Hop is a hopper?

• 40:03Speaker 01

  Jason.

• 40:05Cameron Hanes?

  Hopper.

• 40:05Speaker 01

  Hopper.

• 40:06Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, so I'm Rachel, one overall win on her hundred sixteen hours.

• 40:14Speaker 01

  She is a beast.

• 40:15Cameron Hanes?

  She's, she is a machine. So I'm a little worried about that, even though she has a hundred miles on her legs from this weekend. I just don't think it's gonna matter.

• 40:23Speaker 01

  Didn't seem to matter that she had, she didn't taper.

• 40:26Cameron Hanes?

  No, she did the burrito league, running back and forth on sidewalks all day. So.

• 40:31Speaker 01

  Are you hitting the local burrito league here?

• 40:33Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 40:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, a big fan.

• 40:35Cameron Hanes?

  I definitely something up doing that. But, uh, no, so that between Jason, starting tomorrow and, uh, Rachel, starting Friday?

• 40:49Cameron Hanes?

  Cannot wait till Monday.

• 40:51Speaker 01

  Saturday, Sunday.

• 40:52Cameron Hanes?

  And all this is over. Or no, she's still here Monday.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  What?

• 40:56Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 40:58Cameron Hanes?

  I think she leaves Monday. Thank God.

• 41:00Speaker 01

  Early, hopefully really.

• 41:03Cameron Hanes?

  No, Rachel, we love you. I'm just scared is all it is. Sit.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:08Cameron Hanes?

  I'm just scared about what's gonna happen to, to my body.

• 41:11Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 41:12Cameron Hanes?

  Since.

• 41:13Speaker 01

  Maybe you should just grab your ankles.

• 41:16Cameron Hanes?

  Basically, that's what it's gonna be. I'm gonna get my ass whooped like when I was a kid.

• 41:23Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Oh, and also, so we got Savannah coming on. I told her Sunday, she's got my antlers done from Wenaha.

• 41:31Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 41:32Cameron Hanes?

  She did European, but then did some artwork on them. So I said, I told her, well, I didn't tell her, but Rachel's gonna be here, but I figured we could have a little, she could explain what she did, like a little short, little discussion we could put up and she could talk about her work on, on the Wenaha. Yeah. So that'll be Sunday afternoon. Little bonus.

• 41:50Speaker 01

  Look at that, planning ahead.

• 41:53Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know.

• 41:54Speaker 01

  You know, we were talking about the 2016 thing.

• 41:56Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 41:57Speaker 01

  Uh, people throwing it back, but people, uh, in the hunting industry, like Tiffany Lakowski.

• 42:05Speaker 01

  Um, who was another one? Uh, Chris Brackett.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  I remember I used to watch his show would come on the Sportsman Channel. My buddy only got like three channels on this little shitty TV.

• 42:17Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  And we would stay up all night and fall asleep watching that channel.

• 42:20Cameron Hanes?

  Archery affliction?

• 42:21Speaker 01

  And he would come on sometimes.

• 42:22Cameron Hanes?

  Arrow affliction, arrow affliction.

• 42:24Speaker 01

  I can't remember what it was called. I just remember his name.

• 42:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, he was like a rock star back then. But yeah, he got in a little bit of hot water. I think we talked about that with Greg Poole, but.

• 42:34Cameron Hanes?

  I'm all about the redemption story. He had a huge personality, played the rock star thing up. When you, you know, play with fire, sometimes you get burned. He got burned and, uh, I don't know. I hope he's successful and. Yeah, so he tagged an old picture of, of me and him at one of the shows. I had a lift, run, shoot shirt on, I think, one of the originals and, uh. Yeah, I got, I got, you know, I, I want no hate. I want him to succeed. Um, I haven't talked to him in years, but. One thing I did respect about him, well, he talks shit about me plenty of times and. Just the way it goes.

• 43:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:13Cameron Hanes?

  One thing I do like about, like, I would take him over Dudley. Cause at least he'll admit that he talks shit.

• 43:22Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 43:23Cameron Hanes?

  Doesn't like.

• 43:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, make excuses or out of context. So if you're gonna talk shit, own it.

• 43:31Speaker 01

  I, that's, that's how I feel. It's like, if you're gonna talk shit, at least stand on it.

• 43:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't.

• 43:35Speaker 01

  Then it, I think it becomes kind of fun.

• 43:37Cameron Hanes?

  It's, I don't give a. I mean, I just don't like, if somebody doesn't like me, just don't like me.

• 43:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:44Cameron Hanes?

  All the time.

• 43:45Speaker 01

  That's fine.

• 43:45Cameron Hanes?

  Don't pretend like you like me like we're boys and then talk shit about me.

• 43:49Speaker 01

  That shit pisses me off.

• 43:51Cameron Hanes?

  Or if you do talk shit, own it.

• 43:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:54Cameron Hanes?

  I don't, I'm. I can handle it. I, we talk shit. It is all love.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  That's, yeah, that's why under Jeremy's video, I commented, I qualify as a hater. Cause I'm doing worse than everybody.

• 44:08Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know. People take this shit too seriously. I mean, it's, it's all good. It all helps engagement.

• 44:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:15Cameron Hanes?

  Shit talking.

• 44:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, if this is what we have to complain about and bitch about, life's pretty good.

• 44:21Cameron Hanes?

  We're pretty lucky. I mean, hey, we're talking about runners who don't like each other or bow hunter. Who gives a does that matter? Does this shit matter? Yes, we love it. We love the, the test of, of running. We love the test of bow hunting. It's, it's, you know, gives us something to train for. That's all luxury. That's all, there's people out there struggling to put food in their refrigerator and in their cupboards. It's like, if you told them about, oh, there's some drama about, they'd be like, what? So who gives a, this isn't, this is fun. This is just for fun. We do this stuff. We love, this is a, a huge, I mean, it's not like,

• 45:03Cameron Hanes?

  a hobby. We take this very serious, but also it's not life and death.

• 45:08Speaker 01

  No. So, no. And we're not, well, you know, at the end of the day, it's not like we're trying to take people down or make them do worse. Everybody can win. Everybody can be happy.

• 45:18Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Or not happy. You don't have to like me. I don't have to like you. I can still want you to win.

• 45:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:24Cameron Hanes?

  I want you to be successful. Every person we've talked about here tonight, I want you to win and be successful. Trust me. That's it. I have no ill will towards anybody, but we're humans. Some people irritate you some days. Some, maybe they might motivate you other days and, and build you up. Maybe you're going to be down in the dumps and you need somebody to lift you up. Maybe we're there here for each other. None of this is life or death, personal bullshit. This is just like, just

• 45:54Cameron Hanes?

  life.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, well, for a closing sentiment.

• 45:59Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 45:59Speaker 01

  One Truitt's podcast, I said a quote, I'd rather a live donkey than a deadline and you guys did not like it at all, but

• 46:09Cameron Hanes?

  Which one was this on?

• 46:10Speaker 01

  This is on Truitt's at the end. This is peanut gallery.

• 46:13Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 46:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. It was a, um, Ernest Shackleton.

• 46:17Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, right. From the endurance book?

• 46:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, so I got messages and there were a couple of comments like, damn, I thought that was a good quote, but they didn't like it.

• 46:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 46:27Speaker 01

  So now I'm going to start implementing the weekly quote.

• 46:31Cameron Hanes?

  What is it?

• 46:32Speaker 01

  You can tell me if you like it.

• 46:33Cameron Hanes?

  Thumbs up. Cisco and Ebert did thumbs up, thumbs down for the movies.

• 46:38Speaker 01

  And I think

• 46:39Cameron Hanes?

  So here we are.

• 46:40Speaker 01

  I think most weeks I'm going to try and come up with it.

• 46:42Cameron Hanes?

  It's your quote?

• 46:43Speaker 01

  This is going to be my quote for this first one.

• 46:45Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. So remember like in, uh, was it Gladiator?

• 46:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:51Cameron Hanes?

  You know, so you're either going to be alive or dead.

• 46:56Speaker 01

  Unalived.

• 46:56Cameron Hanes?

  Unalived.

• 46:57Speaker 01

  Can't say dead anymore or kill.

• 46:58Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Unalived or alive?

• 47:01Speaker 01

  This is a short one, so don't miss it.

• 47:09Speaker 01

  Don't be a hostage in your own story.

• 47:17Speaker 01

  There's probably more I could add to that, but I, you know what I mean? Pretty good.

• 47:28Cameron Hanes?

  Off with his head.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  Let me think. Lack of depth, context.

• 47:35Cameron Hanes?

  Intelligence and meaning.

• 47:41Speaker 01

  But that's it. So first quote was, it could be improved on.

• 47:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Yeah. It's all good. Uh, all right. Well, that's a great segment that'll, well, I mean, great episode, which will all be cut.

• 47:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:54Cameron Hanes?

  It'll be about five minutes long.

• 47:55Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 47:56Cameron Hanes?

  So if you're wondering what happened, five minutes is the whole thing. All right. Thanks, guys. Don't be offended. It's all love. Peace.

• 48:08Cameron Hanes?

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