KHC 116 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly

Join us for a conversation with Cameron Hanes and James G. Williams as they cover current events, thoughts on Truett breaking the world record again, an update on the truck and Kawasaki giveaway winners and more. Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Follow James: https://www.instagram.com/james_g_williams/ Thank you to our sponsors: Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off GoHunt: https://gohunt.com/ use code CAM when you sign up for $50 towards the gear shop + 10% off the GoHunt store MTN OPS Supplements: https://mtnops.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off and Free Shipping Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% your first order Timestamps: 00:00:00 Intro, Luka Trade, and Beyoncé 00:05:14 Recap on Max Jolliffe - King of Moab 00:08:52 Truet’s New Pull-Ups World Record 00:16:12 Ad Break 00:18:36 Truett’s Upcoming Pull-Up Film 00:23:22 Truck & Kawasaki Giveaway Finalist 00:26:50 New Apparel, Signing with Sitka, & Hotel Hypothermia 00:31:02 Proud But Not Surprised - Onto the Next 00:33:48 Meals & Coffee During Truett’s Pull-Up Challenge 00:39:01 Upcoming Guests & the UNDENIABLE Book 00:42:48 Outro

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:15Cameron Hanes?

  This is the Keep Hammer Collective with James Gideon Williams and Kramer and Haynes. That's it, true. I think one time I went to his school and he's in the first grade. He still denies it, but I think he said, I think it was Parents Day, and so he introduced me as Kramer.

• 0:37Speaker 01

  Some guy called me, what did he call me? Givian?

• 0:42Speaker 01

  At Spike Camp.

• 0:44Cameron Hanes?

  Gideon?

• 0:44Speaker 01

  Givian.

• 0:45Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, Givian.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:46Cameron Hanes?

  Close enough.

• 0:47Speaker 01

  Are you, are you Givian?

• 0:50Speaker 02

  No, it was, it was Gillian.

• 0:51Speaker 01

  Gillian.

• 0:52Speaker 02

  Gillian.

• 0:53Cameron Hanes?

  Gilligan.

• 0:54Speaker 01

  Gilligan's Island.

• 0:55Cameron Hanes?

  Did you guys watch that? Was that around?

• 0:57Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 0:57Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Gilligan's kinda cool.

• 1:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, maybe that's what I should go by.

• 1:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, so this is your idea. What's this all about?

• 1:08Speaker 01

  We got a couple of things to cover. The most important, I'm gonna start with the most important, which is Punk Sutani Phil saw his shadow.

• 1:16Cameron Hanes?

  So six more months of, what is it, spring, winter? Or no, no.

• 1:21Speaker 01

  Six weeks of winter?

• 1:22Cameron Hanes?

  I don't even know. Six years of winter.

• 1:26Speaker 01

  I don't know either, but Rihanna sent us Google Trends and that was at the top of the list.

• 1:30Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, right. So Kip's idea was if we talk about like current events.

• 1:36Speaker 01

  That we talk about Groundhog Day.

• 1:38Cameron Hanes?

  Well, that six more months of winter reminds me of when Biden said for the unvaccinated, it's gonna be a winter of sickness and death. So thanks for the pep talk, President. Appreciate that.

• 1:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, we were playing, uh, speaking of Biden, we were playing, playing a game.

• 1:54Cameron Hanes?

  Shit your pants?

• 1:58Cameron Hanes?

  I love that game.

• 2:00Speaker 01

  First time to shit their pants wins.

• 2:04Cameron Hanes?

  That's a fun one.

• 2:05Speaker 01

  What was that game called? Anyways, you had to do these charades and one of the cards was Joe Biden.

• 2:12Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 2:12Speaker 01

  So I walked around holding my ass.

• 2:16Cameron Hanes?

  What?

• 2:17Speaker 01

  Like I shit my pants.

• 2:18Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's a good one. Well, or you could like kids and they shit their diaper, how they kinda walk, you know, or they stand behind the couch and they're like.

• 2:30Cameron Hanes?

  What are you doing over there, James? You going big potty?

• 2:35Speaker 01

  Papa, I flew up.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  Anyways.

• 2:42Cameron Hanes?

  So fun.

• 2:43Speaker 01

  Something else in the Google trends, I, I think you'll have an interesting opinion on this. How about the Luka trade?

• 2:49Cameron Hanes?

  Crazy.

• 2:49Speaker 01

  Nobody knows what, what's going on there.

• 2:51Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's, I don't even know. Yeah. So, so the, the scuttlebutt is that he's like 300 pounds, hurt, out of shape, fat, 25 years old and what, so they're worried about whatever his work ethic, I think is why Dallas didn't want to offer him a max contract, which I think is like 350 million, apparently. So, but man, when, when he's balling, he's unbelievable.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  Easily one of the best in the league.

• 3:22Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I mean, on offense, I don't know that he played, other than that one clip where he like dives after the ball and throws it to Kyrie and does whatever. I don't know if he ever plays defense. And so, and I don't think LeBron plays defense anymore. So they better score a lot.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  I saw a clip that was like, this is the reason Luca got traded and it was all his terrible defense highlights.

• 3:42Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. He, I mean, but he, he can score.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  Yeah. So that's good.

• 3:47Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 3:48Speaker 01

  The other thing in, in the trends right now is, uh, country album of the year. And this one sucks because it's hoping Jelly Roll is going to get it. Wasn't even.

• 3:57Cameron Hanes?

  Beyonce?

• 3:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:59Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, come on. What? I know. I saw the country artists were, I mean, I think Kacey Musgraves or Groves, or whatever the hell her name is, was, uh, nominated and they asked her and she just went.

• 4:15Cameron Hanes?

  They, they're kind of in a tough position. You know, but what I, what I also read was, I don't, when did I find out all this fucking rumor mill, but, uh, that Jay-Z paid like, you know, tens of millions to radio stations or whatever, basically bought the Grammy and whatever. I mean, if I had the money, I'd do it. Maybe I could win.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  I guess it depends what he's getting in return.

• 4:41Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I mean, hopefully it's legal, but yeah. Jelly Roll, was he nominated?

• 4:45Speaker 01

  I don't think he was even nominated.

• 4:47Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, that's stupid.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. Uh, a Post Malone was, right?

• 4:51Cameron Hanes?

  For country?

• 4:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. For, uh, F1, what was it called? F1?

• 4:56Cameron Hanes?

  F1 trillion.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  F1 trillion.

• 4:58Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, but disappointing.

• 5:01Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  Anyways.

• 5:02Cameron Hanes?

  That is.

• 5:03Speaker 01

  That's all our trending news.

• 5:04Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 5:05Speaker 01

  So.

• 5:06Cameron Hanes?

  There you go, Kip.

• 5:09Cameron Hanes?

  So we're done.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's it. Thanks for tuning.

• 5:13Speaker 01

  No, I wanted to talk, you and Max did a podcast before you went running. Then we went, you guys got a summit in. How was that?

• 5:21Cameron Hanes?

  Good.

• 5:22Speaker 01

  Good.

• 5:22Cameron Hanes?

  He's fun. He's fun.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:24Cameron Hanes?

  Such a good kid.

• 5:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I did want to ask you, you know, we watched the film, King of Moab, and then obviously talking to him on the podcast and how dialed in he was for his ultra. Are you going to take any of that with you into yours or?

• 5:37Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's, you know, for mileage, it's, you know, there's David Roach, of course, is like famously doing less 65 miles, whatever, super fast. But I think we talked about that on the pod, but yeah, it's just volume. I didn't know how much Max was doing, but 130 mile, 30 mile weeks, big weeks.

• 5:59Cameron Hanes?

  And it's, so it's no wonder the success he's had. He's just working. I mean, grinding out those miles. So between him and Courtney, yeah, it's hard not to be, you know, I, I did a couple summits, just got back. Haven't even been in the house yet and it feels like, what is that? That's like nothing, you know? I mean, I did two big loops. I don't know how many miles it was, but I, I feel like if I don't, I'm not running 20 miles a day. It's like, I, I feel like I'm getting outworked and I don't like that feeling. Let me see. So this, this says I did, yeah, not good. 8.6 or no. So what, well, what did I do?

• 6:43Cameron Hanes?

  I went up and did some, I went back to the Vargate and back up. It seems like it should be further, but great. Nine miles. God.

• 6:52Speaker 01

  Oh, boy. Yeah.

• 6:55Cameron Hanes?

  That's like, so just for reference, a nine mile week, of course, is, or I mean, nine miles a day is a 63 mile week. So nine miles is like nothing. So I'll have to do like a couple 20, 30 mile days this week just to get bare minimum.

• 7:12Speaker 01

  Fuck, that's rough.

• 7:13Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 7:14Speaker 01

  I like thinking about that, especially since you're trying to get me to do this 100K.

• 7:17Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know. It's, uh, and it's not the easiest 100K.

• 7:22Speaker 01

  That's what Tanner said.

• 7:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 7:24Speaker 01

  I talked to him about it.

• 7:25Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, did you? I know. That one's legit, dude.

• 7:28Speaker 01

  I know. He said it's like 11,000 feet, 12,000.

• 7:32Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  I'm fucked.

• 7:34Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, it's over 60 some miles, but that's still quite a bit of climbing.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  Have you seen my legs?

• 7:39Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Hundred and hundred and, or yeah, 100K is 62 miles. So it's spread out a little bit, but it's not, and it's, I haven't run this race, but the, it's not like groomed trail. It's rock.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  That's what Tanner said too. He said there's, there's no trail. It's terrible footing.

• 7:57Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Did you, did you ever find that 100 I was talking about? The one that Greg did? There's a hundred, like it's a, it's over eastern Oregon.

• 8:07Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I didn't.

• 8:08Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, we need to find that one out. But that'd almost be easier, even though it's 38 more miles. Cause it's, it is rolling.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  Right.

• 8:19Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I mean, just if you could just cruise an easy 38.

• 8:25Cameron Hanes?

  After 62, see, sounds, sounds good.

• 8:28Speaker 01

  Well, my first 32 or 31, 32, I guess, was not easy. So thinking about doing that after.

• 8:36Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, 100K. Well, a little bit more too. Just a little titch more, like six more miles. Plus 100K plus the 30. Yeah. That's what it's just numbers.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Easy. Yeah, shouldn't be a problem. But, uh, yeah. So I talked to Tanner in Salt Lake. We were just in Salt Lake.

• 8:53Cameron Hanes?

  Yes.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  Something quite, you know, pretty average happened.

• 8:58Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 8:58Speaker 01

  You know, anyone can do it, especially since they're not real pull ups, you know?

• 9:02Cameron Hanes?

  God, yeah, it's nuts. But yeah, we were back in Salt Lake, Truett, broke the world record again. Um, big mark. First human to go over 10,024 hours at 2001. Big effort. Not surprised, but relieved that you never know how your body's going to respond to it. To a test like that. And I knew he was prepared, definitely prepared, but you know, it's a lot of small muscles, joints, ligaments, tendons in your hands and your hands are the contact point. So it doesn't matter how fit you are, how shredded you are, how prepared you are. If something goes wrong in either hand in any place, like,

• 9:46Cameron Hanes?

  like an actual injury, not blisters or whatever, those you're going to get those, but, or, you know, Goggins had a forearm injury before. I think he was live on Good Morning America and had to quit at like 1700. So you, it's, there's no guarantee. It's a lot of pressure and reps and lifting your body weight up thousands and thousands, thousands. So I was just relieved that, uh, that his body held together and then his training paid off and, and, uh, yeah, he, he crushed the mark.

• 10:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. Uh, I mean, it was the most impressive thing I've ever seen. It was insane. I mean, like I told Connor was like, I think I texted you at 8100 and said, well, I just did a set of 10 to, to get to his, you know, personal max. And then at 9250, he did another set of 10.

• 10:38Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  How the f**k do you do 10 pull-ups after doing 9200?

• 10:43Cameron Hanes?

  It's a machine, dude.

• 10:45Speaker 01

  And his 10th one looked just as good as the first. It was nuts.

• 10:48Cameron Hanes?

  His 10,001 looked just as good as a first. So I just don't know how many he, if his hands could, you know, I, I don't know if anybody's ever had the answer for the hands, because everybody who's attempted it. I mean, if you do 100 pull-ups right here, your hands will probably, you probably have a little blister. 100.

• 11:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:07Cameron Hanes?

  So nobody's ever had the answer for your hands, just because, as I mentioned, that contact point. But if he did, if somebody did have a solution for keeping your hands and people say, you know, I saw a lot of, you know, dumb comments on there about wear gloves, this and that. I mean, he wore, had everything, tape, gloves, victory grips, whatever. Um, but if there was a solution, I'm not sure how many he could get because his body. It was not, he could keep going.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:35Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, he could have, he never fatigued.

• 11:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I looked at the guy who had the ninety two fifty and same thing happened to him. He quit. Three hours, he had three hours left and he just said his hands were torn up. So.

• 11:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, censor.

• 11:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:50Cameron Hanes?

  I saw that you saw that post wealth put up, but uh, it's yeah, cause his goal that day was eleven thousand one hundred and eleven. But he had to quit at ninety two fifty because of the hands. Um, so it's. It's always the thing, but Truett never got up there and couldn't do a pull up. It's like every single time is a perfect pull up. All the way. I mean, so I don't know what his limit is.

• 12:15Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't know either because he'd like come over and eat and you know. Eric would be, Eric McCormick would be like, oh, how are your lats? And she would be like, oh, they're fine.

• 12:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 12:25Speaker 01

  What do you mean they're fine?

• 12:27Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And on the other attempts, I mean, he had one that was, I would call one of failure. Um, and it's not, it was just, he still did over four thousand. But his body just, his shoulders and you know, so we've had issues, had massage guns on shoulders and maybe back and lats. On the previous attempts, but he was so much more prepared this time with doing the two thousand a day for seven days, fourteen thousand in a week. He had a few days of five thousand and six thousand over twelve hours. Um, so much more prepared. His body was basically bulletproof. And so dedicated on the diet because he lost twenty pounds while training.

• 13:08Cameron Hanes?

  Training, running ten miles a day, thousands of pull ups a day, added eight hundred calorie deficit for a while. So to be able to just, I don't think people understand, most people, first of all, overindulge in eating. Eat way more than they burn anyway. But when you perform at that level with the, just the running the ten miles. But then also lifting and doing two thousand pull ups to be able to do that at an eight hundred calorie deficit for months. I don't, that's way harder than the exercise. The diet is way harder. People, food is such a weakness for people and just.

• 13:48Cameron Hanes?

  You know, if you've ever, I don't know, it's just, it's just really hard to, to get it done.

• 13:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, and he was looking diced.

• 14:00Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, he's done. Yeah. I mean, people are saying he looks bigger. He definitely wasn't bigger. He's more shredded, but he was at one, probably about one sixty-five that night.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:10Cameron Hanes?

  And, uh, yeah, veins in his abs.

• 14:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:14Cameron Hanes?

  I don't have veins in my abs.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  I don't have abs.

• 14:18Cameron Hanes?

  Or veins.

• 14:21Cameron Hanes?

  You're a jellyfish.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  Or a brain. I don't have organs.

• 14:28Speaker 01

  No, I don't think some people know, like, when you, when you are, you know, bulked up and you cut, yeah, you weigh less, but you look bigger because, you know, all that fat shreds and then your proportions, you look bigger. And he was, yeah, I mean, Nick the trainer dude was like, oh, we're gonna go to a bodybuilding show after this because, yeah, what was he at, like seven point five body fat percentage?

• 14:47Cameron Hanes?

  Pretty low.

• 14:48Speaker 01

  That's, I mean, that's low. I don't think people understand, like, a real seven point five is low. A lot of people like to say.

• 14:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's DEXA scan. So those are usually come in, people will say, yeah, I'm at eight percent. They go get a DEXA, DEXA scan and they're at thirteen.

• 15:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 15:03Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, those things, his calipers are so much different. I mean, I remember we did calipers before at the gym and I was at six, they said, and not even, it was over whatever true it was. So it's like, that, that, I've never done a DEXA scan. I don't know, he, because he laid down.

• 15:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:24Cameron Hanes?

  And went through the machine. I did a, God, you hold something. Never done that one?

• 15:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:29Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't know what it, but it, it comes in, it's probably accurate because it comes in like, it's like, what, fifty percent body fat?

• 15:39Speaker 01

  I'm fifty percent body fat.

• 15:41Cameron Hanes?

  That's what it said, you know, and the caliper said I was two, so.

• 15:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:48Cameron Hanes?

  You just test your finger.

• 15:51Cameron Hanes?

  God, I'm diced. Look at this.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  I just test my foreskin.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  Which I don't have. Thanks, mom.

• 16:02Cameron Hanes?

  That's why it comes in so low.

• 16:04Speaker 01

  Seer up.

• 16:08Cameron Hanes?

  Well, that's good.

• 16:12Speaker 01

  But something cool with the with Truett's record is got some great footage there. Connor's got some great old footage and so we should be able to put together a really cool film.

• 16:22Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I was just talking to him before before I got pissed about everything, which I always get pissed about everything. So I don't know when I talked to him when I wasn't pissed, but if that ever happened, I told him, I think this could be a movie. And I said, you know, I said, I just wanted to see what what Luke's plans were and what, I don't know, because I'm sure he has a vision.

• 16:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 16:48Cameron Hanes?

  And he's a, he makes great films, too. But I just said, with this old stuff, then I was gonna go and see if I can get Goggins to get do an interview to just because he's such an integral part of it. I mean, it all started with Goggins at workout back in 2018. It could be like a movie.

• 17:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:06Cameron Hanes?

  And I said, also, I go, it doesn't hurt that I said, I, you know, there's all sorts of shit talkers on the internet, but the fact of the matter is, I said, you look like a movie star. I mean, people can say whatever they want. They can say, oh, like, short collarbones or whatever the are nuts. They are absolutely nuts. I've never heard any comments on clavicles.

• 17:32Speaker 01

  You suck in your short collarbones.

• 17:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's like, what is going on? Yeah, but I said, so just besides the idiotic comments, I said, he, you look like a movie star. So first of all, or a superhero. So that doesn't hurt. But then we got the whole backstory, all the old footage that Connor's gathered, just, you know, we hired Connor just to go through mostly all my old hunting footage, but then I was always filming the kids.

• 17:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:57Cameron Hanes?

  Always. And so, you know, when you do something.

• 18:03Cameron Hanes?

  No man has ever done that old footage can actually now it might mean something. It might mean a little more.

• 18:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:10Cameron Hanes?

  So usually home movies are like, people are like, oh my God, we got to watch home movies of these kids, but now it might be kind of cool.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  No, I think so. Yeah. I had talked to Luke a little bit about it, but I think there's definitely a potential to be something a lot bigger than, I mean, I know I had talked to you too. It was like, kind of have to.

• 18:28Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 18:29Speaker 01

  Set up, it's set up well, at least.

• 18:31Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. All we're worried about is, you know, the world's a big place. There could be some freak out there, like some little Asian gymnast that's just going to pump out 15,000 or something that weighs a hundred pounds. It's always a risk. There's the guy in Australia. There's, I mean, the world's big. There are freaks out there.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:52Cameron Hanes?

  There's like, you never know.

• 18:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:55Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, I never knew about this sensor until he went and busted out 9250.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 19:00Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So it's a, if it gets beat while we're dicking around with the movie, not as cool.

• 19:06Speaker 01

  Not as cool, but it's like Eddie Hall when he was the first person to lift 500 kilograms.

• 19:11Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  You know, it's like, you're still the first person to reach a benchmark.

• 19:15Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 19:15Speaker 01

  I feel like 10,000.

• 19:16Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  Is that benchmark?

• 19:17Cameron Hanes?

  First in, in human history.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:19Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So I mean, that's never going to lose its luster, really. It'd be nice if, and it's not just like somebody can be like, oh, that's the new record. Maybe I'll go try that tomorrow.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  No.

• 19:31Cameron Hanes?

  It's a, the problem is that this record has got a lot of attention lately.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 19:37Cameron Hanes?

  And as I said, what is there seven, eight billion people out there? There's probably a couple of freaks.

• 19:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. I think, I think the hands are probably going to, I'm hoping the hands will protect it. It sounds like no matter how hard you train.

• 19:50Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 19:51Speaker 01

  You know, if you get to that certain point, the, the condition that true is in, you're still battling the same thing he was, which is the hands.

• 19:57Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I don't know. Russians probably have tough hands, right? Is there, there's still Russians, is there? Or wait, yeah, there's Russia, not Soviet Union. Or wait, I'm not good. Whatever.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  Whatever. Geography.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  Ukrainians.

• 20:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't, oh yeah, there is Russia. What? Something changed over there.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  USSR no longer exists.

• 20:25Cameron Hanes?

  That's it. I knew. The way I learned that the history of that area is from Rocky.

• 20:32Cameron Hanes?

  So if it's changed since Rocky V, I don't know about it.

• 20:37Speaker 01

  So we need a Rocky six so you can learn.

• 20:41Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, Drago.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  Drago.

• 20:45Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, he could probably beat it.

• 20:47Speaker 01

  Pull him out of retirement.

• 20:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, don't tell him. He was on all the sauce. Remember that?

• 20:51Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 20:52Cameron Hanes?

  God.

• 20:53Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, that concludes the Truett section. Now, we have a fun section. Well, not that fun because we can't actually announce anything. But there are finalists for the truck giveaway.

• 21:05Cameron Hanes?

  I know. Yeah, we, uh, it's quite a process.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:10Cameron Hanes?

  Getting this narrowed down, but and also the truck and the buggy.

• 21:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was just gonna say, so the Kawasaki should probably check your email. You know, you might be a finalist.

• 21:20Cameron Hanes?

  Did I win?

• 21:23Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no, it's so it's within what what is today? What camera am I on? No, today's Tuesday. I mean, this week we should know.

• 21:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, so.

• 21:35Speaker 01

  That's exciting.

• 21:35Cameron Hanes?

  Stay tuned. I'm pumped. I'm pumped to give this. I mean, I'm kind of kind of like driving it.

• 21:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, we also got a Grizzly Hunt winner and he did accept the hunt.

• 21:44Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 21:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, so that's good.

• 21:45Cameron Hanes?

  Who's that? Did I win?

• 21:49Speaker 01

  I think I don't think he did.

• 21:50Cameron Hanes?

  Oh.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, let's see.

• 21:54Cameron Hanes?

  Do we have a name?

• 21:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 21:55Cameron Hanes?

  Show me the name.

• 21:58Cameron Hanes?

  Don't say it.

• 21:59Speaker 01

  Where did she send that?

• 22:00Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I don't know.

• 22:01Speaker 01

  Oh, top one.

• 22:06Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Oh, yeah, I remember that. I selected that actually back at Nine Line.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 22:12Cameron Hanes?

  Wasn't it?

• 22:13Speaker 01

  Must be.

• 22:13Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, you weren't there?

• 22:14Speaker 01

  No.

• 22:14Cameron Hanes?

  No, yeah, so we did. Yeah, I remember I signed, I wrote, um, signed a book for him.

• 22:18Speaker 01

  Oh, nice.

• 22:19Cameron Hanes?

  I had, yeah, we knew that one a little while ago, but I was just kind of waiting for like the grand, grand, whatever this is.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  Okay. And then as soon as we get the truck winner selected and that's, you know, people should stay tuned. There might be giveaways in the future.

• 22:38Speaker 01

  Can't launch them yet.

• 22:40Cameron Hanes?

  We have more? Yeah, yeah, we're gonna give away a lot of cool shit.

• 22:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:43Cameron Hanes?

  That's what, I mean, yeah, I'm, the business part, what I hate the business part of what I do. I like giving shit away. So I have to like, if I wasn't making any money, it'd be hard to give stuff away.

• 22:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 22:59Cameron Hanes?

  So it's, it's a, it's a, the good and bad of the deal, but I'm thankful for how well this is going and how much people listen, because when people listen, then I can, the sponsors

• 23:09Speaker 01

  Right.

• 23:10Cameron Hanes?

  want to pay me more, and then when they want to pay me more, I want to give away more.

• 23:13Speaker 01

  Well, to be fair, you're not getting paid.

• 23:16Cameron Hanes?

  I haven't got paid yet. I mean, but it's only been two years. So

• 23:20Speaker 01

  To be fair, yeah.

• 23:21Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, at least you guys have begun, you got paid, right?

• 23:23Speaker 01

  I think your paycheck's in the mail.

• 23:25Cameron Hanes?

  It's on, I'll get paid.

• 23:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:27Cameron Hanes?

  Someday.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  I'll, you know what? I'll talk to my people and

• 23:29Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 23:30Speaker 01

  we'll get that figured out.

• 23:31Cameron Hanes?

  That'd be great.

• 23:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then we got some new stuff launching. The long sleeve I'm wearing and the long sleeve you're wearing.

• 23:39Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, we're like, well, look at this. I actually signed this deal.

• 23:43Speaker 01

  Did you?

• 23:43Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 23:44Speaker 01

  Can we talk about it?

• 23:45Cameron Hanes?

  No. No, I don't know. I sent it in.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 23:50Cameron Hanes?

  Actually, I took a picture of, so I got, I got the contract and I took a picture with my phone and they're like, "Yeah, our legal people might not, could we do something like, could you scan it?" It was just an iPhone photo.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  Shitty little scribble.

• 24:06Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So, but anyway, I did do a scan and I, I don't know when we're announcing it, but

• 24:14Speaker 01

  Well.

• 24:14Cameron Hanes?

  I guess right now. I guess today.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  You didn't say their name. You just flipped the jacket.

• 24:20Cameron Hanes?

  I know, we all know.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, anything else?

• 24:27Cameron Hanes?

  Larry?

• 24:29Speaker 01

  Oh, boy. This is a liability.

• 24:33Cameron Hanes?

  I'm not sure if I have anything else to say.

• 24:37Speaker 01

  Boss?

• 24:41Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that was like, was that the Green Mile?

• 24:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:45Cameron Hanes?

  I know what love is. Didn't he have like a bunch of butterflies or shit come out of his mouth or what was it moths? What was that? I haven't seen that movie.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  It was moths, yeah.

• 24:56Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's pretty, pretty cool.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  Same as um, Mummy with Brendan Fraser. He has bugs come out of his mouth too.

• 25:04Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:06Speaker 01

  So.

• 25:07Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. You know who was, the Indiana Pacers are staying at my hotel.

• 25:12Speaker 01

  What?

• 25:13Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, in Salt Lake.

• 25:14Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 25:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, they must have been playing the jazz. I saw, I don't know, it's like a nine foot tall guy walked by.

• 25:20Speaker 01

  Has to be the Pacers.

• 25:22Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, but it was pretty good. Other than the breakfast, I, I went to breakfast one time and they said something like,

• 25:32Cameron Hanes?

  yeah, we got, we got brunch, this and that, and maybe if you don't want, uh, is, oh, it was like some fancy thing or I don't know what it was, but it said, maybe they saw how I was dressed and they're like, maybe you want to eat across the street, like, so I'm like, I know how brunches work. I didn't know it was 200 bucks.

• 25:50Speaker 01

  Maybe you want to eat across the street.

• 25:52Cameron Hanes?

  I was like, I wish they would have told me that price beforehand, but.

• 25:55Speaker 01

  You're right, I do want to eat across the street.

• 25:57Cameron Hanes?

  After I got the bill.

• 25:59Speaker 01

  I take it, here, let me throw this up real quick.

• 26:02Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I was like, shit, did I just pay for the Indiana Pacers to eat or what happened here?

• 26:06Speaker 01

  You can have this back.

• 26:07Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Oh, man.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:11Cameron Hanes?

  But, uh, yeah, so the hotel was cool.

• 26:14Speaker 01

  I, I walked and we got back, well, first of all, I laid down for a split second and then woke up at like four P M.

• 26:22Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that was a long, I mean, you think Troot was hard tired being doing Pulse on that? We were freezing, first of all, and freezing in there. Yeah, and true, it's just busting shit out while everybody else is dying of hypothermia. God.

• 26:37Speaker 01

  Can we shut the damn door?

• 26:39Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know, I know, but what, here's what, the cool part of that was all the support he had. I mean, by, I mean, so many people, but, you know, Black Rifle was huge, that was sick.

• 26:53Cameron Hanes?

  You know, Mountain Ops, Trevor swung by from Mountain Ops. Of course, Michael Brand was there from Ketone. But yeah, this is, and then the overall community, the live strong, or wait, not live strong, the recovery strong.

• 27:06Speaker 01

  Recovery strong.

• 27:07Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. All the Shaw family, awesome people. They're all there. It's just epic.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was like one big, one big party.

• 27:15Cameron Hanes?

  It was.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  Which is nice for, you know, everyone watching because you get tired and someone amps up the energy and you wake up a little bit.

• 27:23Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I mean, it was a, it's a long night.

• 27:26Speaker 01

  I mean, I just kept thinking if Truett can stay up for 24 hours while doing pull ups, I can probably not be a pussy.

• 27:34Cameron Hanes?

  Well, you're wrong.

• 27:37Cameron Hanes?

  You would have thought that, but nope.

• 27:39Speaker 01

  We all learned something that day.

• 27:42Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, we all learned something. You're right. I learned a lot about myself.

• 27:47Speaker 01

  Watching Truett do a pull.

• 27:50Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. All I know is like after he broke it, that's when it got tough because everybody left and he's still had 700 more to go to get to 10,000 and everybody's laying around, the crowd's gone, fricking, I don't even know if there's music playing anymore. It was just like, wow.

• 28:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Can you turn that down?

• 28:10Cameron Hanes?

  And he's like 700 more. God, that was brutal.

• 28:14Speaker 01

  I was dying when, you know, getting the IV and you're laying down.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  That guy comes in and is like, what the?

• 28:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know. I know. A slumber party.

• 28:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:26Cameron Hanes?

  That's what it looked like. God.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was good.

• 28:30Cameron Hanes?

  It was, uh, it was quite an event. Uh, super proud of them for getting that done. And as I said in the post, um, proud, but not surprised. I mean, I know it sounds crazy that to say you're not surprised that, you know, your son did something no human has ever done, but that's, that's just, that's always been the goal. I've always told them, told the kids, it's like, yeah, you're not, we're not trying to be regular, not trying to be average.

• 28:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:59Cameron Hanes?

  Trying to be special.

• 29:01Speaker 01

  They're definitely not.

• 29:01Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So it's like, I'm not, I'm not surprised because that's been, that's what we're supposed to do. So. I'm proud though.

• 29:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:10Cameron Hanes?

  That's huge.

• 29:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, I watched his YouTube video and you know, he's like, well, probably gonna take today off, take my dog for a walk and then tomorrow, right back at it. Need to go for a run.

• 29:21Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 29:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:22Cameron Hanes?

  I guarantee you did.

• 29:23Speaker 01

  Oh, I know. He posted.

• 29:24Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, did he?

• 29:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I went for like an eight mile run or something.

• 29:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, it's uh, on to the next. I mean, you can't, you're not, we're not, we don't celebrate accolades. We don't, you know, it's in the past, really. I mean, it's cool and it's great. We're gonna, we're gonna make films and we're gonna, I think that part of the celebration in that regard is that it can be a big inspiration to people just like Goggins. And I said this that night, um, Goggins inspired him seven years ago when we, when we trained. And so who knows what that ripple effect will be. That's the beauty of, you know, there's a lot of shit that comes to social media, but also we can reach so many people now. And it's like, you never know who you're gonna impact or how are you gonna impact them and how it's gonna change their life. So we'll

• 30:07Cameron Hanes?

  tell the story in the best way we can. And then hopefully it just leaves a lasting legacy and then that continues on and it's just, I don't know, it's a big deal. It's a big deal.

• 30:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was, uh, I got a kick out of, you know, he does 10,001 pull ups, walks up to the live stream and he's like, all right, thanks, guys.

• 30:29Cameron Hanes?

  I know. Yeah, he was pretty gassed by that time.

• 30:33Speaker 01

  For sure he was, yeah.

• 30:35Cameron Hanes?

  Obviously, he used all that he had on that physical test, basically. And yeah, not a lot left for mental acuity, but, but yeah, I know, I, he was trying to think what to say. So I said a few things and he's like, yeah, what he said.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, he said, take what you said, put a dash below it and then my name.

• 30:58Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, I, I, you know, when he was doing it, I can't just stand or sit, I was like pacing the whole time.

• 31:05Speaker 01

  You were, yeah.

• 31:06Cameron Hanes?

  Back and forth, back and forth, just because I just can't, I don't know. I don't know.

• 31:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:13Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, but that's how, basically at their basketball games, I was just a psycho when they were five years old. So not much has changed.

• 31:24Speaker 01

  Well, I had a, a physical challenge right after.

• 31:27Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, wow.

• 31:27Speaker 01

  From my hotel.

• 31:28Cameron Hanes?

  Tell me about it.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  And I have to say this because I feel cheated. I walked my, uh, half a mile.

• 31:33Cameron Hanes?

  Ooh.

• 31:34Speaker 01

  To a sandwich shop that had.

• 31:35Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, like all in one go?

• 31:37Speaker 01

  All in one. I mean, I took a couple of breaks crossing the streets, you know, but that was forced upon me.

• 31:42Cameron Hanes?

  Safety.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. And, um, anyways, I chose a sandwich shop that was supposed to be the best Philly cheesesteak around.

• 31:50Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 31:51Speaker 01

  They had Guy Fieri.

• 31:53Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 31:53Speaker 01

  He said.

• 31:53Cameron Hanes?

  Sure.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  It was, hands down.

• 31:57Cameron Hanes?

  The best.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  Easily the worst Philly cheesesteak I've ever had.

• 32:02Cameron Hanes?

  Nice.

• 32:03Speaker 01

  And on top of it.

• 32:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 32:05Speaker 01

  The person I ordered it from was one of me, a tranny.

• 32:12Cameron Hanes?

  Wow.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  And they were wearing a mask.

• 32:14Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, for safety.

• 32:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:16Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 32:17Speaker 01

  At least I know they didn't spit in it.

• 32:18Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, well. Maybe they still did.

• 32:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. So ate half of it.

• 32:25Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 32:25Speaker 01

  Bagged the other half, walked down to the nearest seven eleven, got a, a bag of Doritos.

• 32:31Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 32:32Speaker 01

  Bag of Cheetos. And.

• 32:34Cameron Hanes?

  Those never let you down.

• 32:35Speaker 01

  And sour punch straws.

• 32:37Cameron Hanes?

  Those never let you down, dude.

• 32:39Speaker 01

  Took that back to my hotel room and that was dessert.

• 32:43Cameron Hanes?

  Sounds good.

• 32:44Speaker 01

  It was.

• 32:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Um, for true, it's a pull up thing. I had pizza, a donut. About, I don't know, 22 cups of coffee. Cause it was freezing. I think I heard you were drinking hot water.

• 33:00Speaker 01

  I was just drinking hot water because I had too much caffeine.

• 33:03Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I think Truett had 2,600 milligrams of caffeine, which is. Not sure if that's, that's recommended. I think it is.

• 33:14Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well.

• 33:16Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Um, what else did I have? I had some, yeah, crackers.

• 33:21Speaker 01

  Did you have steak?

• 33:22Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, a steak. Okay. Yeah. No, Evan hooked up the steak. That was actually pretty good. Yeah. Big old fat rib eye.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  Just for you guys.

• 33:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Not, not, yeah, no scrubs.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  No.

• 33:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, just the VIPs. That was pretty nice. It's just like, they would, like Evan and Logan made really good cups of coffee. And I must not. To me, a Keurig is just as good. So I'm like, I, it was good, but man, I just don't know if I can't tell the difference, but I mean, a Black Rifle Keurig, it hits the spot too. So maybe, maybe it's just a sign of how good their Keurigs are.

• 34:05Speaker 01

  Could be.

• 34:05Cameron Hanes?

  I think that's what it is, but I go over to, to the office there and Evan's like in the lab. It's actual lab.

• 34:11Speaker 01

  It is. Yeah, yeah.

• 34:12Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. It has a green beans and he's, he's like, well, or the raw, or is it raw? I don't know, but a coffee bean, then they have to roast them, right? So it's, I didn't even seen a, is it green, a green bean is that what it's called? Or was, or a raw, is it a Robbie?

• 34:28Cameron Hanes?

  What's a, what's a, what's a coffee bean that's not roasted?

• 34:31Speaker 01

  I don't know. It's gotta be green.

• 34:33Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. They, they were green colored.

• 34:37Cameron Hanes?

  Anyway.

• 34:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:37Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know shit about coffee. I think is what we can take away from this.

• 34:40Speaker 01

  I got.

• 34:42Cameron Hanes?

  Larry, are you trying to chime in over there?

• 34:44Speaker 02

  I was just gonna say something.

• 34:47Speaker 01

  But, but boss, I got something to say if you, if you allow me.

• 34:51Cameron Hanes?

  Yes.

• 34:52Speaker 02

  I honestly forgot what I was gonna say. I think I was gonna say something about coffee beans and the USSR and geography. I was gonna tie it all back together.

• 35:01Speaker 01

  What I love about you trying to chime in is it takes a second for the mic to come on and then the joke's already.

• 35:07Speaker 01

  I did, I became familiar with the lab though, as I was going in and out to the bathroom.

• 35:11Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 35:11Speaker 01

  I think I broke, I broke a record.

• 35:14Cameron Hanes?

  Well, I, I went to the bathroom, wearing the mic, Luke's mic. So sorry, Luke. I mean, that was after that, all that night of coffee. It's just like, you know, we went in there and it was just, you know, not good. And then I was like, saw this blue light on my shirt. Yeah. Oh my God. That's gonna be good audio.

• 35:36Speaker 01

  It's like Dale Brisbee.

• 35:37Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. I had, I think I, I had four of those, uh, Black Rifle Energy Drinks, which.

• 35:44Cameron Hanes?

  Those are good.

• 35:44Speaker 01

  Those are really good.

• 35:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 35:46Speaker 01

  Have those come out?

• 35:47Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know.

• 35:48Speaker 01

  Huh. Well, if they haven't, people should keep an eye out for them because they were actually really good.

• 35:52Cameron Hanes?

  Those are hitters.

• 35:56Speaker 01

  Can we say that?

• 35:57Cameron Hanes?

  Hitter?

• 35:57Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 35:58Cameron Hanes?

  That's Yvonne.

• 35:59Speaker 01

  You're saying it with the A, so it's.

• 36:00Cameron Hanes?

  Oh yeah. No, you're thinking of something different.

• 36:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:07Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no, we can say Hitta.

• 36:08Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 36:09Cameron Hanes?

  So I ordered

• 36:12Cameron Hanes?

  a bacon cheeseburger with no cheese. You know what I got?

• 36:15Speaker 01

  Cheese.

• 36:16Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 36:17Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 36:18Cameron Hanes?

  Two patties, no bacon. What? But the guy was like, did your son break the record? So he knew something was going on. So anyway, I gave, I gave him a pass on the no bacon. I don't know how you get a bacon cheeseburger and you just say no cheese and then somehow don't get bacon either.

• 36:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, things to look forward to. We have a guest on the 11th.

• 36:39Cameron Hanes?

  We do, who?

• 36:40Speaker 01

  Casey Anderson.

• 36:42Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, really?

• 36:42Speaker 01

  Grizzly guy?

• 36:43Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, good, okay.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  That should be a fun one.

• 36:44Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  I think you guys will have some good stuff to talk about.

• 36:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. When do I have to do my audible read?

• 36:50Speaker 01

  Oh, that's, yeah. Actually, I wanted to, I saw what you posted on the, your book.

• 36:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 36:56Speaker 01

  Looks good.

• 36:57Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 36:57Speaker 01

  Those are the, uh, the images or how it's printed on there. I noticed lines in the printing. Is that just because it's a pre?

• 37:05Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's just, that's just cheap print, just to, just to verify everything looks pretty good on the, in the book format. But, um, yeah, it's all just low quality, low res.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 37:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, there won't be like, like copy printer lines on there. Like, or your copy, your copier's running out of ink lines. Yeah, I think it's gonna be, the book should be barely high, a little high qual- quality than that if I could talk.

• 37:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was pretty stoked to, I mean, a couple of my images are in there, so.

• 37:33Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 37:34Speaker 01

  Honored to have those.

• 37:35Cameron Hanes?

  No, it looks good. It looks good. I, I'll give you one of them if you want. They sent me a box.

• 37:38Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 37:39Cameron Hanes?

  Check it out. But yeah, I think it looks, I think it looks pretty, pretty damn good. I mean, and I, like I said in that caption, it's like, when you got Goggins, Rogan and Huberman chiming in on it, it's like, even if I didn't write one word, but just what they wrote, that should sell.

• 37:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's a picture book.

• 37:58Cameron Hanes?

  Who gives a, what this guy said?

• 37:59Speaker 01

  Did, um, did Rogan say anything about Truett breaking the record?

• 38:04Cameron Hanes?

  He just texted me and he said, I can't believe he did it again.

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:07Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 38:07Speaker 01

  Wild.

• 38:08Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So, no, he, yeah, he was paying attention.

• 38:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:11Cameron Hanes?

  And everybody's kinda knew what was going on and checking in, I think, you know, um, just, uh, it was quite a, I think guys that people, uh, Jesus, I can't, why can't I talk? But guys at Tanner's work were checking in and, uh, just, you know, the live stream was going the whole time. God, I need a cigarette.

• 38:34Speaker 01

  Kramer and Haynes on the live stream.

• 38:35Cameron Hanes?

  I know. I need a bump to get my head straight. Maybe I need some ketone.

• 38:39Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 38:40Cameron Hanes?

  That's what we didn't do. That's why I can't talk.

• 38:42Speaker 01

  Ketone IQ.

• 38:44Cameron Hanes?

  Where's Lindsay Brewer?

• 38:50Cameron Hanes?

  You're setting up Grizzly Guy Podcast. How come you can't get her here?

• 38:54Speaker 01

  I'll reach out.

• 38:56Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, no, I thought, aren't you guys still dating?

• 38:58Speaker 01

  We're married.

• 38:59Cameron Hanes?

  You said you, you're married.

• 39:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, but we're on a little, you know, we did couples therapy, so we're on a hiatus.

• 39:05Cameron Hanes?

  Oh.

• 39:06Speaker 01

  Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

• 39:09Cameron Hanes?

  Nice.

• 39:09Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 39:10Cameron Hanes?

  Nailed that one.

• 39:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:11Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's, so that's what you guys are doing?

• 39:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. So she's, um, she's on a three week girls' trip to Miami.

• 39:18Cameron Hanes?

  What's the worst that could happen?

• 39:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 39:28Speaker 01

  You know what? Hot take. If you're a guy and you let your girlfriend take a girls' trip to Miami, you're a cuck.

• 39:35Cameron Hanes?

  And also, if those FaceTimes never get picked up, not a great sign.

• 39:41Speaker 01

  I was sleeping.

• 39:42Cameron Hanes?

  Not a great sign. Let me just say that.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  Sorry, I was, I was taking a nap.

• 39:48Cameron Hanes?

  Decline or whatever. What does it say?

• 39:50Speaker 01

  Beep beep beep.

• 39:51Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 39:54Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. No, my, my battery went dead.

• 39:59Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no. All right. So get that Lindsay pod. Is it? Is it a Lindsay Williams now?

• 40:08Speaker 01

  Uh, she decided to keep her last name.

• 40:10Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, Lindsay Gideon?

• 40:13Speaker 01

  Gillian.

• 40:13Cameron Hanes?

  Gillian.

• 40:14Speaker 01

  Lindsay Gilligan.

• 40:17Cameron Hanes?

  That's got, it's got a nice ring to it, kinda.

• 40:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:21Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. All right. Well, so that was productive.

• 40:28Cameron Hanes?

  I have no, yeah, I have no idea how, I don't know how Macy does, makes like what we do coherent.

• 40:36Speaker 01

  I don't either because there's been a couple of times where I'm like.

• 40:39Cameron Hanes?

  There's gonna be nothing in there. And then it's like, I listened to it and I'm like, how did that work?

• 40:44Speaker 01

  I don't remember saying that like that.

• 40:46Cameron Hanes?

  I think she added somehow AI is a normal conversation.

• 40:51Speaker 01

  I think she's trained the AI to talk like us.

• 40:53Cameron Hanes?

  I think so. Yeah. Oh, that's a fascinating observation, James.

• 40:59Speaker 01

  Hmm. That is interesting. If you did caliper your foreskin.

• 41:07Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Speaking of, um, that.

• 41:15Cameron Hanes?

  That, uh, hand sex.

• 41:26Speaker 01

  Oh my, I'm gonna start calling it that.

• 41:31Speaker 01

  I gave him hand sex.

• 41:35Cameron Hanes?

  I have never actually heard or said that in my life. So. That's kinda cool. That's a key term right there. Right there. That's.

• 41:44Speaker 01

  Locking in, baby.

• 41:45Cameron Hanes?

  Oh my God, I am so locked in. I could come up with hand sex out of nowhere. Genius.

• 41:51Speaker 01

  Honestly?

• 41:52Cameron Hanes?

  So if you, if you don't need a better sales pitch than that, I don't know what to tell you.

• 41:56Speaker 01

  You might need to add that one to your, uh, Kill Tony hand sex.

• 42:00Cameron Hanes?

  No, I'm gonna add it to my Riley Reid reel.

• 42:05Speaker 01

  That's who we need to get on the podcast.

• 42:06Cameron Hanes?

  Yes. Entertainer.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  Actress and my stepmom.

• 42:13Cameron Hanes?

  And my stepsister.

• 42:18Cameron Hanes?

  And my babysitter.

• 42:20Speaker 01

  And my teacher.

• 42:28Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, now I actually think we could probably end this. So that's all we have. Thanks for tuning in. Keep hammering, crammering.

• 42:36Speaker 01

  And get Gilligan.

• 42:38Cameron Hanes?

  Cam crammering.