Sonja & Luann: Pirates, Palm Beach & Picking Up Men

Join Alex in the studio for an interview with Sonja Morgan and Luann de Lesseps! Sonja and Luann look back on their wildest years on The Real Housewives of New York City and reflect on the friendship, lessons, and adventures that have brought them to their next chapter together, The Golden Life. They give their unfiltered takes on former castmates, relive some of their most iconic moments from the show, and set the record straight on what really went down during the most unhinged ones. Enjoy!

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  What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.

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  Sonia Morgan and Luann De La Seps, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

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  Thank you for having us, Alex. It's our first time here, so we're so excited.

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  I am so thrilled to have these two icons in the building with me. Okay, I was thinking about it. You guys changed reality television forever, for over a decade on Real Housewives. You're just so fun and chaotic, off the cuff. And I just, I cannot wait to talk with you guys today. We're gonna talk reality TV. We're gonna talk toaster ovens. We're gonna talk pirates. We're gonna get into it all.

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  Cabberlesque.

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  Okay, tell me about the outfits. Did you, you guys clearly didn't get dressed together.

• 2:43Speaker 03

  No, we did not get dressed together. And you know, when I was looking at the podcast, I think I watched Andy and I watched a couple other people on the podcast. Everybody was so casual. So I was like, you know, I'm gonna wear a statement necklace and be comfy because I'm flying out tonight. And I love that you've dressed for comfort.

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  Thank you. Sonia, how did you pick your outfit?

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  I just decided I'd wear whatever, you know, whatever was on the hotel floor.

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  Here I am, fresh as a daisy.

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  Okay.

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  In sequence, looking fabulous.

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  Looking so good. And you love a statement necklace, so we love that for you.

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  Okay, your new show, The Golden Life, is coming out October 20th. I think I can speak for everyone when we say, thank God, thank God, thank God, you're back. Can you tell me a little bit about this cast? Because obviously, we are getting a lot of OG rony people back together. How did it come to be?

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  Well, Luann and I have been working on it for a few years, since we were surprisingly not doing our life story series any longer. And we were meeting with different... Yeah, the one-offs weren't pulling it, you know? So we were always interviewing with different networks, and it was just timing and the money came together. So thank God, but thank E Network.

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  Well, we've got a lot of life left to live. I mean, we did 20 years of, you know, the OG cast.

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  For the OGs, did you guys have any say in the cast? Like?

• 4:08Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. It started with me and Lou, right? Let's say that. We weren't sure if Ramona would join. Timing was very, very good for us with Ramona because she was not with her serious boyfriend any longer.

• 4:22Speaker 00

  Oh, and if the serious boyfriend, if they were together?

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  How many cocktail parties can you go to? Okay.

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  Well, Ramona wasn't gonna go on TV if she was still very serious. If she, if Ramona was very seriously involved with a financier from New York, she wasn't really happy to go back on TV. But she's in between boyfriends, so she has us.

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  Oh, my God, this worked out perfectly.

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  Coz before bros, babe.

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  Well, more maybe because they broke up.

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  Yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right. It was bro.

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  And she had FOMO. Let's put it that way, right?

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  And then maybe she's also like dump him for now, film, then get back with him.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  I've heard people do that. I didn't do that for Love Hotel, so I skipped it.

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  Okay, the show kind of follows you in Palm Beach, and we also have later in the Hamptons. Sonia, what is the biggest difference between living in Palm Beach and New York?

• 5:08Speaker 02

  Wardrobe.

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  Tell me.

• 5:10Speaker 02

  Well, they have men everywhere, right? It's not, that's not hard for us. No, no, it's, I would say wardrobe, because in Florida, you wear pink and green and white and very summery colors and florals. The Hamptons is a little more, it's like, um, streetwear.

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  It's New York chic.

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  But, but linen, for sure.

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  So we're not wearing this, obviously, in the Hamptons. Would you wear this in Palm Beach?

• 5:32Speaker 02

  Yes. But I wouldn't wear this in the Hamptons.

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  Anywhere, Joan, for breakfast. I mean, look at her.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  Well, sometimes I wake up with this on the next day, and it will be for breakfast.

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  You'll just show up to brunch. Okay, that's fair.

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  Run right into brunch, dinner to brunch.

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  You know, listen, Palm Beach, and it's like apples and, I don't know.

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  Yes.

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  Oranges, or lemons.

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  You said, Luann, in the trailer, the libido is more active in Palm Beach. Explain.

• 5:57Speaker 03

  Well, I think that, you know, there's a lot of women looking for men. So there's a lot of estrogen going around on the streets. So the libido is high and...

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  No, I was just thinking about what makes you, what makes you warmer and hornier in Palm Beach is the sun.

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  The sun.

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  And being outdoors.

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  Okay, explain to me the difference in the Palm Beach men versus the New York men.

• 6:19Speaker 02

  Well, most of the men my age are married, the, the good ones. And then the younger guys all have very wealthy girlfriends or fiancés, and they're visiting the girl's family. That's what I discovered after I moved there. Um, I don't really go out much on-season, so the crowds just drive me nuts. Dating, the men are very generous in New York. That's the difference. The men in New York, they like to take you out and spend a lot of money. If you're in a retirement or semi-retirement mode, so I'm gonna have to start going out, Alex, on-season, because that's when the single guys come down, when it's cold in New York.

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  I was gonna say, what about like the recently divorced? Do we like recently divorced men or no?

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  They're widowed.

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  Oh, widowed.

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  Ramona said I should be checking those obituaries. See if any of my friends are on there.

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  Oh, my God, that's literally your version of like Tinder.

• 7:11Speaker 02

  Exactly. Much better.

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  So much better.

• 7:13Speaker 02

  Because I know their backgrounds. You don't know what you're gonna get on Tinder.

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  Or the home goods sections of any department store. I always talk about that. Like, they always need a toaster, or they always need, you know, a toaster.

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  A toaster, and they're wandering around, and you can say, hello, boys. Let me show you how to use a toaster.

• 7:31Speaker 02

  Well, Bethany said, Bethany said, on my dating app, I have, I'm a professional toaster oven loving chef.

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  And do you think that that is what really gets men going? Like, they really like that?

• 7:41Speaker 02

  Yes, they do, Alex. You know, you have to feed your man first. Once they're fed, there's only one thing they're thinking about.

• 7:47Speaker 03

  Mine likes to cook, so that's... You know, I kind of manifested a chef, but I, and he is like a self, you know, self-made chef, in terms of meaning that he loves to cook. And I love that about a man.

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  And are you actually a good cook, Sonia?

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  Well, I was on, you know, worst cooks, celebrity worst cooks. I set the whole kitchen on fire, as you know.

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  So let's pretend you find a man in the obituary section. He's ready. He's, he wants to come over. What are you cooking him?

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  Well, I'll make him filet of sole or rack of lamb.

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  I've had the flames.

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  And I've cooked for her several times in the toaster.

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  And it's okay. We will be...

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  It was okay.

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  Hold on, hold on.

• 8:25Speaker 02

  I just cooked for Kelly Ben Simone. It was so good.

• 8:28Speaker 00

  Putting a rack of lamb in the toaster oven?

• 8:31Speaker 02

  I, did you see Emerald the chef? Right after I came out with the toaster, and I had been talking to Martha Stewart about it for a while. Next thing, Emerald comes out with the toaster oven, you know, demonstrations. It's just a great way to live. You don't heat up your whole kitchen. You don't have to drain your electricity bill. You have more time for yourself and your man afterwards.

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  And you feel like you're cooking the fish enough in the toaster?

• 8:53Speaker 02

  Eight minutes.

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  It's thin.

• 8:54Speaker 00

  It's thin.

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  Fish cooks in 18 minutes in the toaster.

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  Oh, I gotta come over for a meal.

• 8:59Speaker 02

  Oh, you'll love it. You need to know this as a new mom, because the kids like to also cook with you.

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  Okay, and no one's having any like, you know, diarrhea after. Everyone's good?

• 9:07Speaker 02

  Not after my cooking, no, but other things, yes.

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  She likes my eggs au la française.

• 9:12Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, it's very good. Last time I came over, she put her caviar on. She has the new caviar.

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  I work on a caviar brand.

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  Oh, congratulations. That's so bougie of you. I love that for you.

• 9:21Speaker 03

  Why not have caviar and eggs au la française in the morning? Why should it be for cocktail parties? Let's have it in the morning. It's sexy.

• 9:27Speaker 02

  I mean, Alex, you knew what she said.

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  What?

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  She goes, I just want everyone to be able to afford it. It's more affordable.

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  I mean, you...

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  The 1% that buys caviar is gonna be able to afford it.

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  Well, the 1% is a lot.

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  Let's not discount the 1%, okay?

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  I'm not okay.

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  I'm not okay with that.

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  I love that for you. That's so bougie. It's like, why not have a caviar line if you can have a caviar line?

• 9:48Speaker 02

  So Countess.

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  Now, I want to know your guys' thoughts on the new, new seasons and cast of The Real Housewives of New York City. Obviously, like, have you guys watched it? Do you just see it on the news? Like, what's your relationship?

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  I'm not, you know, I catch it here and there. And listen, I think that we have very big shoes to fill. And I think they're different women. And, you know, there's a room for all of us. So, you know, we wish them the best.

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  That's a good answer. You were obviously both on Rony with Carol. Now she's back. Were you surprised?

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  Yes.

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  You were.

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  I wasn't surprised because of BravoCon.

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  I was surprised because when Carol filmed with us, she always acted like, you know, she wasn't in 100%. She was always like, well, this is a bit beneath me. You know, she always gave that air. And then when she decided to do that after so much time off, I was shocked. But I did hear through the grapevine that she's been a good addition.

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  Okay, so do you think she's 100% in now?

• 10:50Speaker 02

  No, I don't know about that. She's a friend status. It's called friend status.

• 10:53Speaker 03

  You know, like I said, I can't remember where I said that, but I said, you know, what was she doing before, right? She wasn't that busy. So.

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  Where you're like, everyone needs a job.

• 11:01Speaker 03

  She did it like a TikTok or something which said, I'm retired, I'm going fishing. And so I, so I text her and go, how's the fishing going for you? She laughs. She goes, that was the best shade you've ever thrown me.

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  That's actually amazing. Okay, speaking of Carol, she was married to Anthony Radswell. Um, did you guys watch Love Story? Did you see the show, Love Story?

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  Yes.

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  Okay, did any of you, either of you, ever have any run ins with, I don't know, JFK Junior back in the day?

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  I did not. I think Sonia might have.

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  Yes.

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  I was living in Europe.

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  You know, this was before Wi-Fi. Everywhere you went, it was just the same group. So you go to the park, there's John John. You go skiing, there's John John. And I used to hang out at, um.

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  We're calling him John John?

• 11:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, the Michael Todd Room at the Palladium. And so Madonna was there and John John and so many other people, so many other. And it was just like this, you know, a couch of people. No one cared if you were famous or you just got in because you were cool. And there were no cell phones.

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  It was before fame was fame.

• 12:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, before fame was fame.

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  Simpler fame.

• 12:04Speaker 00

  Wait, why do you call him John John?

• 12:06Speaker 02

  Because he's the, he's the junior. Should I say John Junior? I don't know. Everyone just said John John. Everyone says John John.

• 12:12Speaker 00

  Okay, so you had a little run ins with Madonna. You were just, you were making your way around, seeing the people.

• 12:17Speaker 02

  Absolutely. I was 14 years old at Studio 54.

• 12:21Speaker 00

  Oh, Sonia.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  With a chaperone.

• 12:23Speaker 00

  Oh, with a chaperone. Who was your chaperone?

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  My aunt from upstate New York.

• 12:26Speaker 00

  Oh, you had a cool aunt.

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  She loved all that. You know, I was modeling and all that. It was fun.

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  I love that for you.

• 12:31Speaker 03

  And you know, uh, you know, her daughter, Lourdes, comes to my cabaret shows. Cause I know Madonna from Switzerland, actually, because she was a big friend of Valentino's who used to have, uh, New Year's Eve parties in Stad. So that's where I spent my, the 90s was, I was like missing for, I missed a decade in New York. So I missed a lot of pub culture from that time.

• 12:49Speaker 02

  Well, Stad's not a bad thing.

• 12:50Speaker 03

  No.

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  Do your kids know how cool you are?

• 12:53Speaker 02

  Not really.

• 12:54Speaker 03

  Not really.

• 12:55Speaker 02

  But we start to figure it out. When we hear about how it is for young people today, we start to understand things were so much simpler. And everywhere you met, you met people and you didn't leave until you were ready to leave. Because you didn't go home and listen to your answering machine and say, oh gosh, he was at another place.

• 13:12Speaker 03

  Well, we were waiting on phone calls. You don't even remember. It's like, oh, you didn't leave me a voicemail. You didn't leave me a voicemail. I'm talking at home, you know.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  Or you go to the, um, you go to the payphone and you, you call into your answering machine and then you're like, that's 20 blocks from here. I'll take the one I have. One in the hand is better than two in the bush.

• 13:29Speaker 00

  Do you two still have a landline?

• 13:31Speaker 02

  I do not. I still have a fax machine, which people think is weird. They think it's weird. They still sell them.

• 13:37Speaker 00

  What do you do with your fax machine?

• 13:38Speaker 02

  Um, lots of banks, medical offices.

• 13:42Speaker 00

  What's the bank?

• 13:43Speaker 02

  And schools always want you to use a fax. But my friends at lunch yesterday at the Bel-Air, you know what they told me? They said, you could just do it on your cell phone. You can email from your cell phone.

• 13:54Speaker 00

  Like, what, what schools are you faxing? What are they asking you to fax?

• 13:58Speaker 02

  Well, Quincy only, you know, Quincy, you know, my daughter, she only really graduated a short time ago.

• 14:02Speaker 00

  Okay, so you're over there faxing. You're a very involved mother.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  A faxing.

• 14:06Speaker 00

  You're a faxer. Okay, I am going to play a little game with you guys. I'm going to say a superlative. And you're going to tell us which of your Golden Life cast members fits the bill the most. Ready? Most likely to show up late to the reservation.

• 14:24Speaker 02

  And you, you've been late this whole season as well. I think we're tied.

• 14:28Speaker 03

  And what about Ramona? Come on, Ramona's been late. She leaves early. She thinks she's the queen of Palm Beach.

• 14:34Speaker 00

  Oh, is Ramona the queen of Palm Beach?

• 14:36Speaker 03

  Oh, no. She thinks she's the queen. There's a difference.

• 14:39Speaker 00

  You're like, sweetie, do not get it twisted. Absolutely not. Okay, so she, do we have a queen of Palm Beach in our group or no?

• 14:46Speaker 02

  In our group, not really.

• 14:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 14:48Speaker 02

  To quote Luann again, not really.

• 14:50Speaker 00

  Why are you guys always late?

• 14:52Speaker 02

  To be fair, Ramona has a lovely group of girlfriends and, um, they like to socialize.

• 14:59Speaker 00

  Oh, and do you want to be friends with her friends?

• 15:02Speaker 02

  I know a lot of her friends, but I really don't like socializing at big parties. I'm a reckless. But I will, oh my gosh, okay, nevermind. I just was going to tell you, Ramona gets up in the morning, she has her breakfast, she goes to tennis, then she has, you know,

• 15:14Speaker 03

  Golf.

• 15:14Speaker 02

  Lunch, then she goes to golf, and then she goes to dinner. After dinner, a little tete a tet.

• 15:20Speaker 00

  Oh, so she's busy?

• 15:21Speaker 02

  Every day.

• 15:22Speaker 00

  So do you think that's why she's late?

• 15:23Speaker 03

  That's why she's late.

• 15:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, because we're like not her, her first choice.

• 15:27Speaker 00

  Oh, you're not like, you guys kind of are not tier one. How does that make you feel?

• 15:32Speaker 03

  Well, I wouldn't call us not tier one, but she's got a lot of, uh, social stops on the way. So yeah, either she's late or she's early, or she, I mean, she leaves early.

• 15:41Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 15:42Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 15:43Speaker 03

  She's got many things on her schedule.

• 15:44Speaker 00

  Why are you two late?

• 15:46Speaker 02

  I'm just like someone on Sonia time, you know, I just, I always think, oh, five minutes is an hour for me.

• 15:51Speaker 03

  We're respectable in time late.

• 15:53Speaker 02

  I like to get there late and I'll leave a little early for large events. But when I'm, when it's just us, I'm on time.

• 15:59Speaker 00

  Okay, perfect. Okay, who is most likely to never pay you back?

• 16:04Speaker 02

  I think we all pay each other back. We never loan you anything to each other because we know we might not get it back.

• 16:09Speaker 00

  Okay, that's fair. So you're all accountable with the money.

• 16:12Speaker 02

  I don't remember loaning anyone.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, we don't really, you know, production pays.

• 16:16Speaker 02

  We don't need loans.

• 16:17Speaker 00

  Okay, perfect. Who's most likely to take home the bartender?

• 16:23Speaker 03

  Sonia.

• 16:24Speaker 00

  That was a big lead in.

• 16:25Speaker 03

  Or some random sitting at the bar.

• 16:27Speaker 02

  Well, as long as it's not a bar I go to regularly, because I don't like to burn bridges. Except if I'm in another town.

• 16:33Speaker 00

  Wait, what do you mean burn bridges?

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Well, I don't want to go back to the bar and I already had sex with the bartender. That doesn't work. That's like sleeping with a Bravo celebrity. I don't do that.

• 16:42Speaker 03

  You might get free drinks. I mean.

• 16:43Speaker 02

  No, no, I get free drinks.

• 16:45Speaker 03

  If you put up for the bartender, maybe you get some free drinks. I mean, I would use that.

• 16:48Speaker 02

  I get free drinks without sleeping with the bartender because they just want to see how I operate.

• 16:52Speaker 00

  Okay, so I see what you're saying. Like, you don't want to be like, oh my God, I just saw him last night in my bed and now I want to go back here with my friends and I have to see him again. So maybe if you're going to a different bar, that's maybe not your go-to.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  Out of town, on tour.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 17:05Speaker 02

  Honey, I did 46 cities in a year in a month. So I had plenty of opportunity. I would say the best was Monterey.

• 17:11Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 17:12Speaker 02

  Rancher.

• 17:14Speaker 03

  I love her. She's too busy at the bar and I'm like on stage killing myself doing cabaret.

• 17:17Speaker 02

  He was in the front row with his father, his mother, his sister.

• 17:20Speaker 03

  I'm so jealous.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  I'm performing Sonia in your city. He's in the front row with his brother, his father's mother and his sister. And the whole time they were like, and so when I had the meet and greet, they all came to that. And I just said, eenie meenie minie mo, because his brother was hot too.

• 17:35Speaker 00

  And you're working your ass off and she's just.

• 17:37Speaker 03

  I'm touring around globally now. I mean, I'm doing Australia, England with the Countess Cabaret. And so is Sonia. She got back from, you were in Australia.

• 17:45Speaker 02

  I just got back from Australia.

• 17:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, so we're touring around the world now, which is crazy.

• 17:48Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, we are. And up next is Ireland and England.

• 17:52Speaker 03

  I got a new song. I can't wait for you to hear.

• 17:54Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, give me a little something. Give us a little something. Give.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  Well, okay. Um, to all the boys I've loved before, who traveled in and out my door.

• 18:06Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 18:07Speaker 03

  Those boys who came along, I dedicate this song to all the boys I've loved before. I'm so excited for them to hear. It's a dance version. It's coming out, um, on October 9th, actually.

• 18:20Speaker 00

  She's your biggest hype woman. Well, you were just doing that.

• 18:22Speaker 02

  I remember when we were, watch What Happens Live, our first season together on Real Housewives. And I was just like, Andy, you have no idea. She's always performing, Broadway hits, off the cuff.

• 18:32Speaker 00

  It's nice to have a friend like that, though, that's like, there's no jealousy. You're just like, oh my God, I love this girl.

• 18:37Speaker 02

  She's very, very good.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  No, we're supportive of each other. And listen, I have, you know, I did a video while we were filming in Palm Beach for the song. So you're going to see all of it coming up on the new season of the show. I'm excited. Yeah, and you're going to see Sonia perform as well.

• 18:49Speaker 00

  Okay, now, back to the rancher. Where do you take him after you meet him?

• 18:53Speaker 03

  The jolly rancher?

• 18:54Speaker 02

  I have a hotel right next door.

• 18:55Speaker 03

  He's jolly now.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  Right on Main Street. Monterey, I played right after Jerry Seinfeld. I was proud that I sold out as well. His tickets were 750 each. Mine were $75 each.

• 19:06Speaker 00

  You know what, sweetie? It's, the details, who cares?

• 19:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love that about you.

• 19:10Speaker 00

  You sold out.

• 19:10Speaker 02

  I sold out.

• 19:11Speaker 00

  You sold out.

• 19:12Speaker 03

  We are, which is great.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  Oh my God, what about, I couldn't believe when Alex called me to do Unwell Vegas.

• 19:18Speaker 00

  This woman shows up and you were like, on that stage, you're on with Kathy Hilton, you guys are doing, you're dancing. I'm like, what are they doing up there? It was truly the most chaotic, insane thing. I had no, and also we had like, practiced nothing. So we had no idea what she was going to do.

• 19:35Speaker 03

  She's off the cuff.

• 19:35Speaker 00

  And she just goes on stage. We all were like, it was incredible.

• 19:39Speaker 02

  And I had to teach Cabralask to my comedian girlfriend from Wymera. What's your?

• 19:43Speaker 03

  She should do standup, don't you think?

• 19:44Speaker 00

  She should do standup.

• 19:45Speaker 02

  Well, I do standup, Sonia in your city.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  I know, but I want her to be like.

• 19:48Speaker 02

  By the way, you know what? I can't believe you said standup because I just did a little practice. You weren't there. Kid Squid in Tech Harbor. I tried a little, sit down with Sonia, unscripted. Because what I noticed, being number one on Cameo, I'm like, why? Why? And then when I do Sonia in your city, I say, they're not coming for a show. They're coming to tell me all their situations. Marriage, divorce, having a baby, coming out, difficulties. And I'm like, okay, it's going to be this kind of night.

• 20:18Speaker 00

  How many cameos are you making a day?

• 20:20Speaker 02

  At least 12.

• 20:21Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  While I'm filming, it's been hard.

• 20:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, she's, she's killing Cameo. I, I do Cameo as well, but she's really.

• 20:29Speaker 02

  Number one.

• 20:30Speaker 00

  Well, some days I'm at twenty-eight and I panic. I'm like, oh, you know, twenty-eight. Oh, my God, how am I gonna survive?

• 20:36Speaker 03

  You know what is my biggest takeaway from this cameo thing is that, you know, we hear so much that the show has given them, you know, gotten through them through law school. It's gotten them through cancer. It's made me connected to my mother, you know? So after all the work we've done in television television for this long, it really feels nice that people can take that away and that and that we can do something to help other people in that way, which is forget about your life and entertain. And that's why we do what we do in terms of my, you know, Cabaret saved my life in so many ways.

• 21:06Speaker 00

  Right, right, yes.

• 21:07Speaker 03

  And I talk about that on my tour and, and, you know, and for Sonya too, you know, that comedic relief and, and the creative part of what we do and, and the people that really take away from it is, is really.

• 21:21Speaker 00

  It's amazing.

• 21:21Speaker 02

  It's a big deal for people when they buy those tickets. They plan ahead. Sometimes I sell the balcony out first because those are the affordable tickets. Three months in advance, they're booked.

• 21:30Speaker 03

  Gotta make it affordable.

• 21:31Speaker 02

  And you know, the front row is everybody.

• 21:33Speaker 03

  Like caviar.

• 21:34Speaker 02

  The front row sells out last minute because those are the people that can afford to wait.

• 21:38Speaker 00

  And wait.

• 21:38Speaker 02

  And they just fly in with a private jet with all their girlfriends and they get in the front row and it's crazy. People are shaking, sweating, crying.

• 21:44Speaker 00

  You guys are, you are business women through and through and I love that about you.

• 21:49Speaker 02

  Well, what are you?

• 21:50Speaker 03

  Look who's talking, Alex.

• 21:51Speaker 02

  You're so young and so accomplished. Great marriage.

• 21:54Speaker 00

  This isn't about me. We're moving on. Okay.

• 21:56Speaker 02

  She's got it all.

• 21:57Speaker 03

  What else you got for us?

• 21:58Speaker 00

  Okay, who is the most likely to lie in a confessional?

• 22:03Speaker 02

  Not me. I'll tell you everything. Whatever you want to know.

• 22:06Speaker 00

  Who's most likely to complain about not having enough screen time?

• 22:11Speaker 03

  Ramona.

• 22:12Speaker 02

  I was gonna say Ramona, but why would I say that? Because she doesn't want to film as much as we are. She's semi-retired now and she doesn't want any drama.

• 22:18Speaker 03

  We don't really compete for screen time.

• 22:19Speaker 02

  Actually, why did I say semi-retired? She just doesn't want to work that hard, you know? She doesn't want that much screen time. Screen time. But she's doing, everything she does is gold.

• 22:29Speaker 00

  Right. I mean, it always is.

• 22:30Speaker 02

  I can't wait for you to see.

• 22:31Speaker 03

  Golden.

• 22:31Speaker 00

  Oh, it's golden.

• 22:32Speaker 03

  It's golden.

• 22:33Speaker 00

  It's golden. Okay.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  I can't wait for you to see it.

• 22:35Speaker 00

  I can't wait.

• 22:36Speaker 03

  Alex, it's, it's golden.

• 22:37Speaker 00

  It's golden. We gotta get that plug in there.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  I never thought I would do this again, but you know.

• 22:41Speaker 00

  But here we are.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  Here we are. Because I love my girls and I have sixty best girlfriends, but I love these girls too.

• 22:48Speaker 00

  Who is most likely to date a friend's ex?

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Not me.

• 22:52Speaker 03

  A friend's ex.

• 22:54Speaker 02

  Kelly would never. Ramona would never.

• 22:56Speaker 03

  We won't get into it.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  And Dorinda doesn't date that much.

• 22:59Speaker 00

  Okay, Sonya, I feel like your friends have a way of kind of like dating people that you've dated in the past. Why do you think you're such a trailblazer with men?

• 23:10Speaker 02

  Well, I just think it's a good housekeeping seal of approval. If I'm out with someone who's spending my time, because I'm usually reclusive. So if you see me out with a guy, you know, they have good manners, they're, you know, of means, they're, they're generous.

• 23:22Speaker 00

  So maybe you're the woman that like.

• 23:23Speaker 02

  And good people.

• 23:24Speaker 00

  And so then other women are like, oh, what does she see in him? Maybe I could take him for a spin.

• 23:29Speaker 03

  Oh, you saw her in the, in the trailer? She's got her hands up. My boyfriend's shirt, okay?

• 23:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, Ramona and I did that to be cheeky because we were like, how do you like it now, Luann?

• 23:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't, I don't find it threatening, darling.

• 23:39Speaker 00

  You don't?

• 23:39Speaker 02

  Did I say threatening?

• 23:40Speaker 03

  Michael's going nowhere.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  We thought it was a joke.

• 23:43Speaker 00

  So is, is that who in the trailer you say?

• 23:45Speaker 03

  No, I was mad. I was mad.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  Luann was like, Ramona and I were like, how do you like it? Because she did ask us to dance with him and he was into it too.

• 23:51Speaker 03

  No, I said, you know, take the girls for a spin because there was no men to dance with, right? I gave them an inch and they took the whole bratwurst, okay?

• 23:58Speaker 02

  We're just being ourselves.

• 24:00Speaker 00

  So you're like trying to share your man.

• 24:02Speaker 03

  Yes, it'd be nice. Now, girls dance a little bit.

• 24:04Speaker 00

  And then they took a little advantage.

• 24:05Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  We're just being ourselves.

• 24:07Speaker 03

  I was not happy about it, but then we, we worked through it.

• 24:10Speaker 00

  Is that the moment in the trailer you say she loves to flirt with any man who is mine?

• 24:14Speaker 03

  That's right.

• 24:15Speaker 00

  Are you referring to Sonya? No.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  I don't flirt with other people's men. But I will, I will tell you, the girls, I'm not bringing any, I will not bring any of my.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  She did not bring, I'm the only one that has a man.

• 24:25Speaker 02

  I will not bring my men around anymore because they, they cannot be trusted around the girls.

• 24:30Speaker 00

  Hold on. Pause. Luann, so do you disagree that Sonya will maybe flirt with your man?

• 24:37Speaker 03

  Well, you know, I, I don't have a problem with flirting. I have a problem with putting one's hands up on your boyfriend's shirt.

• 24:44Speaker 00

  What was going through your head in that moment?

• 24:45Speaker 03

  Rightly so, right? I mean, I'm not the jealous type, but I was like, okay, this has gone too far.

• 24:50Speaker 02

  I was kidding around.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  Now I had to pull him out by his belt.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  I was kidding around. Luann was, Luann said to dance with Michael. Ramona got up first and then I joined her.

• 24:58Speaker 03

  Is it going dancing?

• 24:58Speaker 02

  And we were both bumping him from the side and having fun. And then I thought I'd show off his belly. Why not?

• 25:05Speaker 00

  Just why not?

• 25:07Speaker 03

  Well, he's got a great body, that's for sure.

• 25:08Speaker 00

  Oh, does he have a nice body?

• 25:09Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:10Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  Well, you know, I'm not into good looking guys. Like, your husband's way too good looking. Not interested.

• 25:17Speaker 02

  I like really, really like.

• 25:19Speaker 03

  Likes a bald and chubby.

• 25:20Speaker 02

  If I'm getting, if I'm gonna get nude, I like them a little bit more, you know, my speed.

• 25:25Speaker 00

  Okay, so you like a little bald, little belly, little, mm.

• 25:29Speaker 03

  She likes to be the pretty one.

• 25:30Speaker 02

  Smart, passionate.

• 25:31Speaker 00

  Okay, so you want.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  Generous, caring.

• 25:34Speaker 00

  I see. So like personality on ten, looks?

• 25:38Speaker 02

  Don't care.

• 25:39Speaker 00

  Now, okay, why are you not bringing your men around the girls anymore?

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Because I don't want to see them showing up every time. Everywhere I go, it's the pirate, it's Harry, it's, you know, Tom. And I'm just like, I'm not bringing them around.

• 25:53Speaker 03

  Let's not make this about Tom, okay?

• 25:55Speaker 02

  I really don't want to see them in my friend group after I'm done.

• 25:59Speaker 00

  Okay, so you're, yeah, you're feeling like maybe the girls keep the guys around that you have.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  Recirculating.

• 26:03Speaker 00

  And it's not, you're not interested. How do you feel about that, Luann?

• 26:07Speaker 03

  Well, you know, we do get to see Harry around this season of the show, right? In the beginning.

• 26:13Speaker 02

  He's everywhere.

• 26:14Speaker 03

  At this point, he's a friend. Do you know what I mean? He's like another housewife at this point.

• 26:18Speaker 00

  Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:19Speaker 02

  But he's still interested.

• 26:20Speaker 03

  To be on the show.

• 26:20Speaker 02

  No, but he's still interested in me and his family adores me, but I'm not interested in a man that wants to be on the show or date my girlfriends.

• 26:27Speaker 00

  Does it freak you out if a guy is really interested in your career on television? Like.

• 26:33Speaker 02

  Not interested.

• 26:33Speaker 03

  It's never been my thing. Like, remember Jacques was always great on the show, right? And, you know, Michael is just, you know, he's great because he's just, he's comfortable with who he is and he's a real man. So he's there to support me. He's not there to steal the camera. In fact, he always says that I'm here to, you know, let you shine.

• 26:51Speaker 00

  Right. Men that want the spotlight kind of freak me out. That's like a little freaky.

• 26:54Speaker 03

  No, he doesn't care about that. He's there to support me.

• 26:56Speaker 02

  And the guys I like are very kind of grumpy. They're like, oh, you're talking to me kind of guys. You know, my ex I'm thinking of and other boyfriends. I like a guy that is more discreet, quiet, hides himself away, has a very solid, stable, family lifestyle.

• 27:14Speaker 03

  And a big peepee.

• 27:15Speaker 02

  And not looking, oh, no, I don't need big.

• 27:16Speaker 03

  Private plane, darling, private plane.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  Oh, private plane.

• 27:20Speaker 00

  Not the peepee we all thought of.

• 27:21Speaker 02

  No, I'm not interested in private planes or yachts or private islands anymore. I'm not gonna try to replicate what I had.

• 27:29Speaker 00

  Sonya.

• 27:30Speaker 02

  Had it, over it.

• 27:32Speaker 00

  So, so you had it and now you're like, if they have one, is that a no-no for you?

• 27:37Speaker 02

  Depends on the guy. If, if money is his god, no. If, you know, my ex-husband didn't care about all that.

• 27:43Speaker 03

  Goddess.

• 27:44Speaker 00

  What if he has a yacht?

• 27:46Speaker 02

  If, if he has a yacht.

• 27:47Speaker 03

  We got the yacht?

• 27:49Speaker 02

  If he has a yacht.

• 27:49Speaker 03

  Get it for me at least.

• 27:50Speaker 02

  Because he looks at it as a place to have family and entertain. Okay, but if, you know, the problem when you have a yacht, you really can't afford to take it out with just two people.

• 27:59Speaker 03

  You're gonna see a lot of yacht parties.

• 28:01Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 28:01Speaker 03

  On this, on the show, you know, which we're excited about. We're doing a lot of, a lot of really fun things on the show. And let me tell you, some things just never change. Like, our relationships are still like, you know, all over the place. But as we're friends, you know, we're tight and we get through it. And I think that's, you know, hopefully inspirational for everyone out there. Like, if you have a real friendship that you should stick to it and work through it, you know?

• 28:29Speaker 00

  I, I think that's why we also, aside from you guys' amazing personalities, your relationships.

• 28:35Speaker 03

  Sing it, sister.

• 28:36Speaker 00

  It's beautiful because it's like we're looking at women who, I think, there's so many interesting things. Obviously, we can always talk about on podcasts of dating and what's going on. But female friendships are so beautiful and the fact that you guys have been through ups and downs with this entire cast and you still come back together is really beautiful. Now, I know Bethany isn't filming on the show.

• 28:58Speaker 03

  Right.

• 28:58Speaker 00

  Do you guys keep in touch with her? What's the vibe?

• 29:01Speaker 03

  Well, Sonya has been in touch with her more than I have. I mean, we will always have that housewife's history. Do you know what I mean? It's not like we see each other, but, but that history will always be there. And, you know, I only wish her the best. And Sonya, I think, did something with her and.

• 29:14Speaker 02

  In Paris, yeah. But I, so I can tell you this story, which is very interesting. I was in Palm Beach. I never run into Ramona. I never run into Bethany. So I'm at Bingo.

• 29:25Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 29:26Speaker 02

  At the hotel.

• 29:27Speaker 03

  At the colony.

• 29:27Speaker 00

  Do you frequent Bingo often?

• 29:29Speaker 02

  Yes, Bingo and church every week. So I'm facing the bar. So people in the room don't know, it's me, because I'm very, you know, reclusive. And Ramona has her table and she's wearing all her fabulous palm leaves and jewelry and diamonds and all that. And all of a sudden, I see Bethany unplanned on this.

• 29:47Speaker 03

  Oh, really? Was it unplanned?

• 29:49Speaker 02

  I'll get to you.

• 29:49Speaker 03

  She knows where they go.

• 29:51Speaker 02

  Let me, I think Alex wants to hear this. So, so we're at this place unplanned. She walks up to me and she goes, did you know Ramona's here? And I'm like, no.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  Because she's so spontaneous, Bethany, isn't she?

• 30:02Speaker 02

  Hold on, I need to tell this, Alex. So she got very emotional. So did I. So did Ramona. Because when you don't have cameras on you and you're not trying to put out twenty-two episodes under the pressure, you, you just love each other. We always love each other. The thing about us is we're very unfiltered. We do love each other and we accept each other the way we are after we get over the pain of what came out of our mouths.

• 30:27Speaker 03

  I think she had it all planned.

• 30:29Speaker 00

  And you, you think that Bethany wanted to see?

• 30:32Speaker 02

  No, no, no. She just happened to be the one.

• 30:33Speaker 03

  By chance. The woman never goes to Palm Beach.

• 30:36Speaker 02

  How would she know I was gonna be there? I didn't tell her. Ramona didn't tell.

• 30:39Speaker 03

  About going to Bingo? I'm gonna say yes.

• 30:41Speaker 02

  No, nothing.

• 30:42Speaker 00

  What do you think she wanted out of it, Luann?

• 30:44Speaker 03

  I think she wanted out of it to kind of, I don't know, do a little intel as to what's going on with us and take the girls away from the show possibly? Because they had to leave the show during filming to go on this trip.

• 30:58Speaker 02

  That wasn't planned. Here's what happened. So we ran into each other there. And I just think the universe is wild like that. Why were we in the same place in the universe, right there in that spot? One room, within one room.

• 31:13Speaker 00

  So you're skeptical. You feel like it was fate?

• 31:16Speaker 02

  No, everyone knows I don't tell stories. We really ran into each other. And so what happens is, she was already planning to take us for rock, this huge, multi-multi-million dollar campaign.

• 31:29Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 31:29Speaker 02

  For skincare.

• 31:30Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  And I'm like, Paris?

• 31:32Speaker 03

  Didn't ask me.

• 31:33Speaker 02

  When would you ever think that me, Ramona and Bethany, these loud Americans on reality TV would be invited to Paris to do a French skincare line?

• 31:42Speaker 00

  It's very chic.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  But I always say, hardly any Parisians live in Paris anymore.

• 31:57Speaker 00

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• 35:34Speaker 02

  So first of all, that was my first season. I had no idea what the show was about. Never watched it. And I see Kelly spiraling, and I see the girls like digging and digging and pushing. I'm like, okay, this has to stop. I couldn't believe it personally. So that's the first time I spent the night in the same room as Ramona. And we've done it every trip since, because I only had one umbrella to wedge the door. I was afraid Kelly was gonna come and be like, like she was really, so I said, Ramona, can I stay with you? Psycho killer.

• 36:09Speaker 03

  Yes, could say.

• 36:10Speaker 00

  Exactly. So you thought she was gonna come in in the middle of the night?

• 36:13Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 36:13Speaker 00

  You thought if you and Ramona were together, you'd be safe?

• 36:15Speaker 02

  So I wedged my umbrella, her umbrella on the sliding doors, and we slept like babies. When we woke up, Kelly was gone. She walked the plank.

• 36:22Speaker 00

  Now, when you, obviously, you guys are no strangers to girls trips. For you, when you look back at all of the girls trips you've been on, what do you think was the most disastrous for you personally?

• 36:34Speaker 03

  Oh, Cartagena.

• 36:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, we almost died.

• 36:36Speaker 03

  Cartagena. We almost died on that, on that boat. And then we all had, you know, we had to wear diapers. Sonia had to wear diapers. I mean, I should have worn diapers.

• 36:45Speaker 02

  Still working on that diaper deal.

• 36:46Speaker 00

  You, yeah, you should get a diaper deal.

• 36:48Speaker 02

  I know.

• 36:49Speaker 03

  It depends.

• 36:49Speaker 00

  That, okay, so on this season of Ultimate Girl Trip, Kyle Richards said that the Beverly Hills women don't have gastro issues, but the New York women do, obviously referencing Cartagena. Do you guys want to take a minute to clear your names? How do you feel about it? How do you feel for being known for that now? What do we think?

• 37:08Speaker 03

  Well, I, you know, listen, it happens to everyone, right? You go and have a bad piece of fish. And you know what the crazy part is? Is that we all got really ill. I mean, we had to go get, you know, treated for parasites. It was really bad. It wasn't just about the diarrhea, it was about parasites. And it's so funny, because the only one that didn't get sick was Bethany, because she doesn't eat seafood.

• 37:29Speaker 02

  Right.

• 37:29Speaker 03

  Or shellfish. So the bitch is the only one that didn't get sick.

• 37:33Speaker 00

  How crazy is that? Oh, my God. No, you guys with your diapers, like.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  She was on the plane with her diapers.

• 37:39Speaker 02

  I went through every pair of underwear, every bathing suit bottom. Your bed had to be burned.

• 37:45Speaker 03

  Oh, I went through two twin beds.

• 37:49Speaker 02

  That's right. Two twin beds. She started on one side and moved to the other. I also slid through Ramona's smear.

• 37:55Speaker 03

  Ramona was pooping on the floor. I mean, it was bad.

• 37:57Speaker 02

  I slid right through it.

• 38:00Speaker 00

  Let's go through some girl trips do's and don'ts. I want your opinions. Okay? All right. Booking daily group tours and scheduled activities. How do we feel about it? If you're on a girl's trip?

• 38:10Speaker 02

  Not me.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  I'm more spontaneous than that. Although I do like somebody who likes to organize that kind of stuff.

• 38:16Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 38:16Speaker 03

  Do you know what I mean? I love a friend that's really organized, and I just kind of have to follow along.

• 38:21Speaker 00

  You're just not gonna be that friend.

• 38:22Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 38:23Speaker 00

  Okay, you're not gonna book it.

• 38:24Speaker 03

  I like somebody to plan it, yeah.

• 38:24Speaker 00

  And Sonia, why are you like, not me?

• 38:26Speaker 02

  We don't do that. We shop and we entertain.

• 38:28Speaker 00

  Okay, perfect. Okay.

• 38:29Speaker 02

  We bring the party.

• 38:30Speaker 00

  Now, what about assigning sleeping arrangements ahead of time?

• 38:35Speaker 03

  We don't do that either. It usually comes down to straws or some sort of a game. And, you know, so we can keep Ramona from running to the best room first.

• 38:43Speaker 00

  That's what I was gonna say. Like, how do you decide who gets the nicest room?

• 38:46Speaker 02

  Well, we share Ramona nights, so we get the biggest room, and I get a tub. I like bathtub.

• 38:50Speaker 00

  Okay. Are you taking a, like, bath every night?

• 38:52Speaker 02

  Every night.

• 38:52Speaker 00

  Every morning?

• 38:54Speaker 02

  Nope, every night.

• 38:55Speaker 00

  Every night. Okay.

• 38:55Speaker 02

  I love a bath. I think it's important.

• 38:57Speaker 00

  How do you feel if you had to bunk up with someone other than Ramona? Like, do you?

• 39:02Speaker 02

  I don't mind staying at Luanne's home. She takes great care of me, and it's very peaceful, very European style. But I, I mean, sometimes when I stay at Ramona's, I get annoyed with that music she blasts. Every morning, bam.

• 39:14Speaker 00

  Okay, so how do you feel about if one of the women stays in on a night where the group is going out?

• 39:19Speaker 02

  They don't like it. I would love to do that. I don't have FOMO. I have no fear of missing out. I'm happy to stay home and rest in between.

• 39:27Speaker 00

  Is there ever an instance where it's acceptable with the group? Like, if you're like, I gotta stay home because of?

• 39:32Speaker 02

  No, they don't like it.

• 39:33Speaker 00

  Even if you're shitting yourself?

• 39:35Speaker 02

  Oh, well, they really like you to show up to their events and support.

• 39:39Speaker 00

  You gotta be there. You gotta show face.

• 39:41Speaker 02

  What do you need me for? You have everybody else.

• 39:43Speaker 00

  We love you, Sonia. Um, okay, how do we feel about bringing a guy back to the shared house?

• 39:51Speaker 02

  Ask Luanne that one.

• 39:52Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, listen, that famous story where be cool, don't be like all uncool came. And, and it was because, you know, Sonia, Ramona and I were single. Sonia, I don't know where you were that night, but we went out, and we brought the guys back to the house. You know, the whole story. So I feel like we're grown women, right? If we want to bring somebody that we like back to the house into our room, then why not?

• 40:14Speaker 00

  Do we feel like we have to ask permission? Or what do we think is the boundary?

• 40:19Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, I'm gonna wake up, you know, Sonia at 2 o'clock in the morning, hey, do you mind if I bring a guy into my bed? She'd be like, what? Are you kidding? Can I come?

• 40:28Speaker 02

  I think that at that point, a late evening, you're just trying to

• 40:31Speaker 03

  That's just asking.

• 40:32Speaker 02

  You're just trying to close the deal.

• 40:33Speaker 03

  That's asking for a threesome right there.

• 40:35Speaker 00

  She's like, are you, is this your way of saying, should I get up?

• 40:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, should I get into bed?

• 40:39Speaker 00

  So, and how do we feel about the morning after? We're in a house with all the women. Are we immediately getting the man out of there? Is he staying for brunch?

• 40:46Speaker 03

  No.

• 40:47Speaker 02

  Out the back door, Jack.

• 40:49Speaker 03

  Out the back door.

• 40:50Speaker 00

  Back door.

• 40:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:50Speaker 02

  I like them after 11 and out by seven, personally.

• 40:53Speaker 00

  Wait, say that again?

• 40:55Speaker 02

  After 11 and out by seven.

• 40:57Speaker 00

  Okay, that's kind of, that's a good rule.

• 40:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:59Speaker 00

  Cause you don't want to see him in the morning.

• 41:00Speaker 03

  It's a night shift.

• 41:01Speaker 00

  And do you stay, do you stay in bed and just say leave? Or do you walk him out? What are we doing?

• 41:08Speaker 02

  One more little snuggle and then you can go. Cause you know, morning is always good.

• 41:13Speaker 03

  I like the walkout. I think it's very chic.

• 41:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 41:17Speaker 02

  Sometimes that's all you're getting is the morning.

• 41:19Speaker 00

  How do you feel?

• 41:20Speaker 02

  It's the only time they can get it up is the morning summers.

• 41:23Speaker 00

  Um, Sonia, you have once called a walk of shame, a victory lap. Can you kind of paint the picture for me? What comes to mind for some of your best victory laps? Like the morning after, what, tell me.

• 41:37Speaker 02

  Well, I only, I mean, I said that because when it came on the show at first, I was the only one dating young guys. I was the only one going naked, the only one getting drunk and falling down.

• 41:47Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 41:47Speaker 02

  I was like the first to do all of that.

• 41:49Speaker 03

  What about Jacques? He was younger guys.

• 41:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, come on. What was that?

• 41:52Speaker 02

  No, my daughter told me, Mom, at a certain, no, at a certain point Quincy said, you have to give up hot pants and you have to give up dating this young hockey player. And I was like, all right, I'm not giving up the hot pants, but I did give up the guy.

• 42:05Speaker 00

  Okay, so Quincy was like, Mom, he's, he's old enough that I could date him.

• 42:10Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 42:10Speaker 03

  Right.

• 42:11Speaker 00

  Oh my God, do you think you and Quincy are ever going to argue over a guy?

• 42:14Speaker 02

  Never, never.

• 42:15Speaker 00

  But did she like the hockey player? No.

• 42:18Speaker 02

  No.

• 42:19Speaker 00

  Why did she want you to get rid of the hockey player?

• 42:20Speaker 02

  All my friends loved him.

• 42:22Speaker 03

  Did she meet the hockey player?

• 42:23Speaker 02

  She did not.

• 42:24Speaker 03

  She just heard about it.

• 42:24Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 42:25Speaker 02

  Well, she knew he was there, you could tell.

• 42:26Speaker 00

  But she was over the hockey player? She didn't want you with the hockey player?

• 42:29Speaker 02

  She just didn't want me dating young guys at that point.

• 42:30Speaker 00

  Now, how young?

• 42:31Speaker 02

  He was sticking around for a while, for years and years, so.

• 42:33Speaker 00

  What kind of hockey player, like professional?

• 42:35Speaker 02

  Like New York Ranger.

• 42:37Speaker 00

  Sonia, you dumb.

• 42:39Speaker 02

  And all the boys met him because we went out several times, you know, with the boys with him. It's a good cover.

• 42:46Speaker 00

  Did you ever go to some games?

• 42:47Speaker 03

  Well, they have a great hockey stick.

• 42:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, they. I love that for you. Oh my, you're like a wag.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  He was so smart, very well educated and very elegant, nice family and a great player.

• 42:57Speaker 00

  Can we revisit the pirate for a second?

• 43:00Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 43:00Speaker 00

  Just to give everyone just like a little tingle, a little happiness, a little fun. Look at Sonia's face. She's like, this is not fun. Okay, um, Luann, when you brought the pirate back to the house on that girl's trip in St. Bart's, like what was it about the pirate that just like got you good?

• 43:20Speaker 03

  Well, you know, first of all, I thought he was hot. Second of all, I was already dating Jacques at the time.

• 43:26Speaker 00

  Yes, you were.

• 43:27Speaker 03

  Right, so I brought him back because he had a little marijuana. Okay, and, and he'd never been to that house. And that house was at like a hundred thousand dollars a week to rent. And he'd never been to that house. So what I didn't know is we got back to the house with one of the drivers from production, which I thought was a random driver. So the production person put in the girl's ears, asked Luann how she got home. Cause they were all sleeping, right Sonia? She was sleeping, she had no idea. But she got news in the morning how I got home. Now, he left, I told him to leave at like three o'clock in the morning because I have to film tomorrow, et cetera. And because I was in love with Jacques, so I never, I never, okay? And he's been on Andy's show at this point.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  Well, let me tell you my side.

• 44:08Speaker 03

  Oh, Andy Cohen show. So my little white lie turned into a snowball effect, right? By saying that.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  Tiger never changes its thread.

• 44:15Speaker 03

  Oh, stop it, just age spots.

• 44:17Speaker 02

  That's what she said on the phone to her girlfriend.

• 44:20Speaker 03

  Leopard, leopard.

• 44:21Speaker 00

  What is your version?

• 44:22Speaker 02

  So my version is my girlfriend that owns the Latif St. Bart's, she's hooked me up a couple of times with her exes because she brings them over from Paris. So she says, I said to her, I'm having a party.

• 44:32Speaker 03

  Who? Your friend?

• 44:34Speaker 02

  Carol.

• 44:35Speaker 03

  Oh, Carol.

• 44:35Speaker 02

  She's St. Bart's.

• 44:36Speaker 03

  It's not me.

• 44:36Speaker 02

  So, so, um, she, she introduced me to a couple of guys and I got them to New York. They work there, they have restaurants now. So she says, I want you to meet this guy. He's totally matriculated and it's time for him to leave the nest. And I said, okay. So when he gets to the house, I invited him over. So he's my date. And I say to him on camera, I go, now you sure?

• 44:57Speaker 02

  Yes, I invited him and that's how we got there. Where did you think he came from, the sky?

• 45:01Speaker 03

  Come on.

• 45:02Speaker 02

  Obviously he came from Sonia's, uh, you know, I am the curator of.

• 45:06Speaker 03

  From the repertoire.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  You know what?

• 45:07Speaker 00

  You got the man.

• 45:08Speaker 02

  So, so he comes and I, the last thing I remember saying to him as I was turning the car, are you sure you're over Carol? Cause I was just teasing him to see if he really wanted to be there.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  And then the door closed.

• 45:17Speaker 02

  And I went this way and then he went that way. And then the next thing I know, he's at the lower bungalow. Not in the fish room, not in the basement of my, lower bungalow.

• 45:26Speaker 00

  So to confirm, both of you, neither of you, or one of you slept with the pirate?

• 45:33Speaker 02

  Oh, I slept with the pirate. That was my date.

• 45:35Speaker 03

  If I did, I would wear like a badge of honor. And you know, this way she didn't get sloppy seconds.

• 45:39Speaker 00

  So everyone thought you slept with the pirate?

• 45:41Speaker 02

  Well, he thought he did too, because he called me from St. Bart's and he goes, I'm coming to New York and I'm taking acting lessons and I'm going to talk about Luann. And I go, oh, would Tom Cruise do that? If you're going to be an actor, be an actor. If you're going to sleep with someone, sleep with the producer, not, you know.

• 45:57Speaker 00

  So do we want to have sex with him while he's in his pirate gear?

• 46:01Speaker 02

  Only.

• 46:02Speaker 00

  Own, only.

• 46:04Speaker 03

  Well, that's what happened.

• 46:04Speaker 02

  It was a moment. After that, it was never the same.

• 46:07Speaker 00

  Now, do we?

• 46:08Speaker 02

  You saw him afterwards.

• 46:09Speaker 03

  He's unrecognizable. He now lives in Miami.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  Doesn't wear on makeup.

• 46:12Speaker 03

  He has very short hair. And if you see him walking down the street, you'd never recognize him. And Andy Cohen brought him up from New York to confirm like what happened. He goes, I never slept with Luann, but.

• 46:21Speaker 02

  After my tutelage.

• 46:23Speaker 00

  So you liked him in his pirate outfit and nothing more, nothing less?

• 46:27Speaker 02

  If, if I had met him like I did and did what I did, I would have continued to see him here and there in New York. But after I found out that he came home with Luann and was smoking a joint and I said, eh.

• 46:37Speaker 00

  You're done.

• 46:38Speaker 02

  Done.

• 46:38Speaker 03

  No, you slept with him the next night.

• 46:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I didn't, I didn't continue to see him in New York. He was calling me to come to New York and I was like, no.

• 46:44Speaker 03

  I'm sure he was, I'm sure he was.

• 46:45Speaker 02

  No, I wasn't interested after that.

• 46:47Speaker 00

  So we, do we?

• 46:48Speaker 03

  Where did we go after the pirate?

• 46:50Speaker 00

  Do we like when, do we like to dress up in the bedroom?

• 46:55Speaker 03

  Dress up in the bedroom.

• 46:57Speaker 02

  I kind of look better without my clothes on.

• 47:00Speaker 03

  Exactly, like Michael's like, why bother with the night?

• 47:02Speaker 00

  Are we doing a little lingerie?

• 47:05Speaker 02

  I like lingerie.

• 47:06Speaker 03

  Me too.

• 47:07Speaker 00

  You famously said, Sonia, there's three things for the bidet. There's washing the lingerie, there's icing your face, and then the obvious. Are we still doing bidet laundry?

• 47:19Speaker 02

  Yes, I like to use a bidet for those reasons.

• 47:21Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 47:21Speaker 02

  But it's always pick and span clean, you know, as clean as a kitchen sink where you can ice your face. What's the difference? And when you're, when you're doing it the obvious way, it's cleaned afterwards.

• 47:30Speaker 00

  Clean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  You don't sit on a bidet when you really have a problem. I mean, you do wash.

• 47:35Speaker 03

  I don't know if I'd want to put my face in a bidet, that's all I gotta say.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  Well, it's the thought that gets you.

• 47:39Speaker 00

  Another way you also have avoided doing laundry, one of your taglines one season was, sometimes Sonia has to go commando, what can I say? What are your guidelines for going commando?

• 47:49Speaker 02

  Well, I probably should have gone commando today because I don't like the panty lines.

• 47:53Speaker 00

  Oh wait, like do you have underwear on right now?

• 47:54Speaker 02

  Well, I've got a lot of junk. It's just the junk in the trunk. I have a, I have a sizable.

• 47:59Speaker 03

  You have a seam cleaner for the couch?

• 48:01Speaker 02

  I don't like, I don't like those panty lines.

• 48:03Speaker 03

  Sorry, my pants are bothering me. Hold on.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  You should have gone commando.

• 48:08Speaker 03

  Oh no, look, with these open like this.

• 48:11Speaker 02

  No, no, I just, I don't like the panty lines.

• 48:13Speaker 00

  Okay, so we don't like panty, like are we wearing, you know, are we going commando in jeans?

• 48:18Speaker 02

  No, God, no.

• 48:19Speaker 03

  God, no.

• 48:19Speaker 00

  But you were not.

• 48:20Speaker 02

  Tight dresses.

• 48:21Speaker 00

  Tight dresses and maybe pants.

• 48:23Speaker 02

  Skirts.

• 48:24Speaker 00

  How do you feel about that, Luann?

• 48:25Speaker 02

  Thin pants.

• 48:25Speaker 03

  Um, you know, I think, you know, wearing jeans or pants without underwear is, you know, it's, um, how do you call them? Not camel toe, but kind of a wedgie.

• 48:36Speaker 00

  Oh, it feels like it would hurt.

• 48:37Speaker 02

  You know what I don't like is the G string thing. That's the dental floss action.

• 48:41Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, what's your go-to underwear?

• 48:43Speaker 02

  Well.

• 48:44Speaker 03

  I like hanky panky.

• 48:45Speaker 02

  Commando, or they do have a new underwear. There's a couple of companies that do it that prevent camel toe.

• 48:50Speaker 00

  Okay, good. So you've, you've researched it and you're feeling good?

• 48:53Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm working on it.

• 48:54Speaker 00

  Okay, you're working on it. Um, okay. Luann, obviously one of your most famous quotes, you referenced it earlier, was your voice text to your then fiance, Tom, when you said, how could you do this to me? Question mark. What was it like finding out that he kissed another woman on camera?

• 49:13Speaker 03

  Listen, I still married the guy even, you know, because we like to believe in the good of people and that people make mistakes. Uh, but even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes.

• 49:22Speaker 00

  Even Louis Vuitton. So you marry him, do you, looking back, what do you wish you could have told that version of yourself before you married him?

• 49:31Speaker 02

  Listen to Sonia, she said.

• 49:32Speaker 03

  Listen to the red flags.

• 49:33Speaker 02

  I told her.

• 49:34Speaker 03

  But love is blind, you know?

• 49:35Speaker 02

  I told her he was not marriage material.

• 49:37Speaker 03

  I, I don't live with regret, you know what I'm saying?

• 49:39Speaker 02

  No, you wanted to get married. She was gonna get married.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  And, and you know, and I love the man at the time, so, you know, but, uh, you know, we have to make our own mistakes, learn from them and grow from them.

• 49:49Speaker 00

  It is a good point. Like I feel like sometimes we can have our friends telling us.

• 49:53Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:53Speaker 00

  But sometimes we just have to live through the experience. Cause then you're like, okay, I did it. I know that that wasn't right, but if you ended up going because all of your friends told you to, you could then end up presenting your friends and.

• 50:04Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 50:05Speaker 00

  Having regret, that is worse, right?

• 50:07Speaker 02

  You're right, Alex, that's worse.

• 50:08Speaker 03

  You have to make your own mistakes and I think that's really, really how you learn.

• 50:11Speaker 00

  How do you guys navigate when you see the other person making a mistake, but also wanting to be there for each other? Like, how do you kind of sit back and know maybe, oh, they're making a mistake, but I'm not going to judge them?

• 50:21Speaker 02

  You just wait and don't judge and then let them know you're still there for them, no matter what.

• 50:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, cute. Um, okay, there is this misconception that the best days as women are behind you when you're 30, 40, 50. It's like, okay, it's over. But I feel like you two are just revving up.

• 50:39Speaker 03

  Like, we're just beginning.

• 50:41Speaker 00

  You're just getting started. What is the best part about getting older?

• 50:47Speaker 03

  I mean, for me, the best part is, you know, being in the driver's seat and not having to need a man, right? At this point in life and, and being busy and, you know, success is the best revenge, right? And I feel like that at this age, we really, I, you know, I say this, you know, I cry when I have to and I love who I want to now. Do you know what I mean? So that's true. As I, you know, I, I live the life that I want to live now and I don't do things that I don't like anymore. You know what I'm saying? I do things that I love and I lead my life that way. That's why I love cabaret, because I write my story. It's my story, right? And that's, you know, how I lead my life now. I just don't, you know, I don't want to do things that make me uncomfortable or don't, don't make me happy.

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• 54:53Speaker 02

  Well, the thing about being in my 60s is it's bittersweet, because you have less time on earth and you start to really value real connection. You know, social currency sort of goes out the window. You don't really care about collecting connections. You have them already. And you have wisdom to share. And then you start to find your real purpose. I love and get great joy.

• 55:17Speaker 02

  I love and get great joy out of working with my interns and mentoring them and making sure they get great jobs and see the world. And they can tell what they really want to do for their career.

• 55:29Speaker 00

  What's going on? He's just having a little bit of a, we're having a coffee attack. You were saying the most beautiful thing and Luanne, I'm like, Luanne's about to...

• 55:36Speaker 02

  Of course, first of all, she reaches for the drink mid-sentence instead of waiting.

• 55:40Speaker 00

  I actually love that. It's like, that's great advice. It's like, by a certain point, you've collected all the good people in your life. And instead of trying so hard to go and find new people, you get to settle in and enjoy the people that you've collected throughout your life.

• 55:55Speaker 02

  Have always been there for you. And you really start to learn that because even as a very young girl, I had people around me that wanted access. And then when you marry into a certain family and you have the private eye and the private plane and the yacht, you really see you're attracting people who just want to be in the room. So I'm very much over that period of my life. But like I said, once you, it's bittersweet, because now I'm like, how much longer do I have?

• 56:19Speaker 00

  Sonia, we got a long way to go, girl. When it comes to dating also, because obviously, you're thriving in that department. As you said, you walked around, you picked the rancher, you took him to your hotel room, you're having fun. What do you think is the most surprising thing about dating in your 60s?

• 56:36Speaker 02

  So the thing about dating at this point for me, before it was, you know, my daughter was at home. She was on the fourth floor, I'm on the second floor. So it was always about being, having her in bed on time and being there for her when she came home from school. And I just really couldn't commit to someone my age. I was really reinventing myself and hustling. And so I would date guys who were just starting to invent themselves. But now I have had a couple of serious boyfriends the last, I'd say, four years. One guy for a year and a half, and the last guy for five months. I'm not going to waste another five months. So now at this point, I know when you're, you're dating someone, like, I'm 62, the last guy I dated was 58, and the guy before that, 44. You start to really see what you want, who you want to spend the rest of your

• 57:20Speaker 02

  life with. Which is why I'm asking her if she's gonna get married to Michael.

• 57:24Speaker 00

  You, how are we feeling?

• 57:25Speaker 03

  Listen, I never say never. I'm a hopeless romantic. Three times the charm, because I've been married twice now. And, and I think, you know, dating at this point, in fact, I'm writing about this, because I'm doing a next chapter of Class with the Countess, because I have not done that book for Audible. So I'm adding a chapter on this point of dating right now, and at this time of life. And, you know, it's just so different, because, you know, we've got our children, we've got our homes, you know, I look around and go, oh, my God, I have a career, I have my children, I have my caparros, I have, you know, my homes and, and everything I want, and my girlfriends and things, right? So it's, it's the added extra thing for me, right? And I

• 58:06Speaker 03

  think when you're happy, this draws people to you. And the right people to you, which is the right energy. Like, I'm in a good place. And so, and I can, I'm pretty good at reading people. And I, you know, when I saw Michael for the first time, I was like, oh, my God, that's like my next guy. You kind of know.

• 58:22Speaker 02

  Sort of like your first husband.

• 58:23Speaker 03

  Right. I married Alex the Count after two weeks of knowing him.

• 58:27Speaker 02

  She knew right away.

• 58:28Speaker 03

  You know, sometimes I jump too fast. So with this relationship, you know, I am, I'm just taking it one day at a time, easy peasy.

• 58:37Speaker 00

  But we're happy.

• 58:38Speaker 03

  But we're happy, and we're definitely a couple, and he's definitely my partner.

• 58:42Speaker 00

  Okay, Luanne, you said on the Ultimate Girls Trip, you want to die having sex. I just need to know from both of you, in which position?

• 58:52Speaker 03

  Oh, definitely on the bottom.

• 58:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, that would be kind of, I agree. Because who wants to like, pick the dead body up, throw to the left and say, I'll be right back, darling. I just have to take a leak and call the ambulance.

• 59:07Speaker 00

  Okay, so that you're like, really relaxed and you're laying down, you're in a good position.

• 59:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're right. You just have to put the hands across.

• 59:13Speaker 02

  Well, yeah.

• 59:14Speaker 00

  Easy cleanup.

• 59:15Speaker 03

  Easy cleanup.

• 59:16Speaker 00

  Um, okay. Luanne, there have been rumors that you kissed Southern Hospitality's Joe Bradley, who's more than 30 years younger than you. We have to know, what went down?

• 59:26Speaker 03

  Um, you know, that, that guy, I mean, so much charm. I mean, right? He just has so much charm. I think he's such a great, great guy. And there was definitely chemistry. There's definitely chemistry.

• 59:41Speaker 00

  I love how she's trying to like, figure out how to answer this. She's like, um, and...

• 59:44Speaker 02

  How much do we need to tell?

• 59:45Speaker 03

  Well, you know, listen, he had a tracker on him, which I had no idea. So of course, we did go to my apartment. We did have a couple of friends with us, though, so I was not alone with him. So the truth is, he did come to the apartment, a little, you know, flirt, and you know, that was it.

• 1:00:01Speaker 02

  The tracker on him? You're talking about the girlfriend?

• 1:00:03Speaker 03

  The girlfriend at the time.

• 1:00:04Speaker 02

  Had the little apple.

• 1:00:05Speaker 03

  But it was, it was, it was a moment. It was a thing. And listen, there's nothing wrong with a woman my age, like, feeling good about being attractive to a guy that's 28 and a half. I'm like, don't say that.

• 1:00:16Speaker 00

  There is nothing at all wrong with it. It's so normal for men. It should be normal for women.

• 1:00:22Speaker 02

  I will add, though, I cut them off at 27 now, because I say, at 28, you need to have your own life and go on and get married and have children.

• 1:00:29Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. So the 27-year-old, you're like, you can be still fucking around. The 28-year-old, you're like, go get your wife.

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  And sometimes it's just random, spontaneous, you know? That's, that's the point. It's like, it was so random. And it was just a spontaneous moment that, you know, I, you know, with anyone tra, and you want to laugh? I'm sitting at BravoCon, right? And I'm at the bar with Tamra Judge and Teddy. And this woman walks up to me and she goes, hi, I just wanted to say hello. I'm Joe Bradley's mother.

• 1:00:58Speaker 02

  She loves you.

• 1:00:59Speaker 03

  And she, and she couldn't have been, she sat down for a half an hour, and she said, you know what, I want to thank you for putting that lovely boy on the planet, because I think he's so charming and so hot. Right? And so I thank her for putting him on the planet, because I had such a lovely time with him.

• 1:01:13Speaker 00

  The mother?

• 1:01:13Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  The mothers love us, because we don't want babies. We don't need a pair of shoes. We're not gonna get, you know, we're not gonna ask for a Harry Winston diamond and ask them to buy us an apartment. The mother's like, God bless Luanne for keeping my son, you know?

• 1:01:28Speaker 00

  And they're probably fans. They're like, and?

• 1:01:29Speaker 02

  They love us.

• 1:01:30Speaker 00

  I love season two.

• 1:01:31Speaker 03

  And he was with a new girlfriend. He was with a new girlfriend at BravoCon. So I said hello to Joe and his girlfriend. Mother was there. I mean, it was kind of like...

• 1:01:37Speaker 00

  It's a family affair.

• 1:01:38Speaker 03

  It was really cute, actually.

• 1:01:40Speaker 00

  Okay, having dated, younger, older, I'm gonna list some statements, and you tell me who does it better. Younger men or older men? Better banter?

• 1:01:50Speaker 03

  Older men.

• 1:01:52Speaker 00

  Older. Okay, more likely to pick up the bill?

• 1:01:56Speaker 03

  Older.

• 1:01:57Speaker 02

  Both, or I'm not going.

• 1:02:00Speaker 00

  More likely to want to put a label on it?

• 1:02:03Speaker 03

  Younger.

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  Older.

• 1:02:06Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 1:02:07Speaker 02

  Older's what labels. The younger ones are just like, they know it's temporary.

• 1:02:10Speaker 00

  But Luanne, you've had some younger ones that are like, I'm in love with you. Marry me.

• 1:02:14Speaker 02

  And they think she's gonna have babies with them. Men are so stupid. They think we can still have babies. I'm like, what plan are you?

• 1:02:20Speaker 00

  Let them dream. Okay, um, better at dirty talk?

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  Older.

• 1:02:25Speaker 03

  Older.

• 1:02:26Speaker 00

  More likely to send a nude?

• 1:02:28Speaker 03

  Younger.

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  What kind of news?

• 1:02:33Speaker 03

  Nude, not news.

• 1:02:34Speaker 02

  What kind of nudes?

• 1:02:36Speaker 00

  Like a dick pic?

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  The dick pics, yeah.

• 1:02:39Speaker 03

  Younger. A hockey player.

• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  I'm not, I plead the fifth.

• 1:02:44Speaker 00

  Okay, are we saving them? Are you looking at them later?

• 1:02:48Speaker 02

  I don't have a collection of those. I really don't.

• 1:02:50Speaker 00

  Okay, more likely to ghost you?

• 1:02:56Speaker 02

  I've only been ghosted once, I thought, and then I found out he just didn't have signal in the Hamptons.

• 1:03:00Speaker 00

  Younger.

• 1:03:01Speaker 03

  Probably younger.

• 1:03:02Speaker 02

  We broke up over it. I went to the Hamptons recently at 1:00 a.m. All these messages were coming in from the guy I was dating for a year and a half, when I thought he ghosted me. And he thought I ghosted him. But Ramona's like, why didn't you call each other?

• 1:03:15Speaker 00

  That Hampton signal, let me tell you.

• 1:03:17Speaker 03

  It's younger because it's like, pick up the phone.

• 1:03:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pick up the phone.

• 1:03:22Speaker 03

  Texting.

• 1:03:22Speaker 00

  Okay, we need to talk about, all the women that are watching, you guys obviously have so much confidence when it comes to flirting with men. So I'm going to give you a little scenario, and I want you to tell me how you would handle it. Are you ready?

• 1:03:34Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:03:34Speaker 00

  Luann, you're at a bar. You see a hot man sitting on a bar stool nearby. How are you approaching him?

• 1:03:42Speaker 03

  It's funny you should ask, because I talk about this all the time, and I'm talking about it when I'm writing right now, which is that, you know, when you're with a group of girls or whatever, alone, right? It's awkward maybe for him to come over to you, and awkward maybe for you to go over to him, right? You don't want to seem too, you know, aggressive. So that's when the bartender or waiter comes in handy. You write a note that says, why don't you join me for a drink?

• 1:04:07Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 1:04:08Speaker 03

  And it's like, it's kind of sexy. Nobody writes notes anymore. And I think it's really cute to get a love note.

• 1:04:14Speaker 00

  I love that. Oh, that's a good one.

• 1:04:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:17Speaker 00

  Okay, Sonia, you work an office job, and you have a crush on your coworker. How do you turn it into something more?

• 1:04:24Speaker 02

  I just don't do that. I can't. I've not slept with.

• 1:04:28Speaker 03

  Do you see her in an office?

• 1:04:29Speaker 02

  That's a better question.

• 1:04:30Speaker 03

  I mean, I don't see Sonia in an office.

• 1:04:32Speaker 02

  You'd have to velcro my ass to the chair. No, no, I don't, I just, I don't date Bravo celebrities. People ask me that all the time, I just don't. Um, I wouldn't have an affair with someone in the office.

• 1:04:43Speaker 03

  What about some, what about some of those Southern Charm guys? They're kind of cute.

• 1:04:46Speaker 02

  No, no, I've had tete-a-tete, but that's it. Craig said, what is a tete-a-tete? He didn't know. I said, no, it's just, you know, we get together, you know, talk and have fun. I like to party with the Southern Charm guys.

• 1:04:56Speaker 00

  Okay, yeah, what do we think about, like, Austin, or Shep, or Craig?

• 1:04:59Speaker 02

  No, I like Craig.

• 1:05:00Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:05:01Speaker 02

  But only as friends.

• 1:05:02Speaker 00

  Okay. And, and specify why you're not dating any Bravo celebrities.

• 1:05:07Speaker 02

  I don't like to burn a bridge in business. It's not good.

• 1:05:09Speaker 00

  I see. Okay, so basically coworkers are off limits.

• 1:05:12Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:05:13Speaker 00

  You would just tell the girl, go find another man down the street.

• 1:05:16Speaker 02

  Every Sonia in your city, I say that to the girls. You never do it.

• 1:05:20Speaker 00

  I love that. Okay, Luann, there's a hot lifeguard at the pool in Palm Beach. How do you get his attention?

• 1:05:26Speaker 02

  Oh, God, just sit up. She just gets out of her lounge chair and everybody's looking. She's a bikini babe.

• 1:05:33Speaker 03

  Uh, how do I get his attention? Well, we were just on the beach, weren't we?

• 1:05:37Speaker 02

  The paparazzi.

• 1:05:38Speaker 03

  The paparazzi. Um, yeah, and Sonia and I had a little.

• 1:05:42Speaker 00

  You had a moment?

• 1:05:42Speaker 03

  On the beach.

• 1:05:43Speaker 00

  What happened?

• 1:05:43Speaker 02

  The bathrooms were too far.

• 1:05:44Speaker 03

  So, you know, I think just walking by to go to the bathroom is enough.

• 1:05:49Speaker 00

  Making some eye contact?

• 1:05:50Speaker 03

  Eye contact. Telling him, you know, what a nice suntan he might have. You know, flirting in that way, like.

• 1:05:57Speaker 02

  You like to play soccer, or whatever that, what's that one? Volleyball?

• 1:06:00Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  She gets right in the volleyball game.

• 1:06:03Speaker 03

  Volleyball is a great way to pick up guys on the beach.

• 1:06:04Speaker 02

  I've seen it.

• 1:06:05Speaker 00

  But are you not joining the beach volleyball so yet?

• 1:06:08Speaker 02

  I'm just watching and learning.

• 1:06:10Speaker 00

  What happened with the paparazzi girls?

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  No, no, I was just saying, on the beach.

• 1:06:14Speaker 03

  Oh, there's a lot of paparazzi.

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  People noticed us on the beach.

• 1:06:17Speaker 00

  I see.

• 1:06:17Speaker 02

  We were both in People Magazine as top celebrity bikini bods over 50.

• 1:06:23Speaker 00

  Yes, you were.

• 1:06:25Speaker 03

  No, it's over 60.

• 1:06:26Speaker 00

  Oh, I love it.

• 1:06:28Speaker 03

  It was still when we were in our 50s, so it was a couple.

• 1:06:30Speaker 02

  And I think we could solve babies.

• 1:06:31Speaker 03

  It was just a couple of years.

• 1:06:32Speaker 00

  I love it. Okay, Sonia, you're sitting next to an attractive man on the plane. What is your first move?

• 1:06:39Speaker 02

  Don't talk. First thing I do.

• 1:06:42Speaker 03

  That's not gonna get you very far.

• 1:06:43Speaker 02

  The first thing I do is I, you know, I'll just get in my seat and be demure. I'll ask him to put my luggage up for me and see how he acts, because maybe I don't want to talk to him. And then I, and then I see how he's acting. You know, while I'm see, and then if I feel like he's elegant and put together, and he doesn't have a wedding ring, he's not on his phone doing strange things, or just watching sports, just very much, I'm not gonna, there's a lot I don't like. So then I will just start talking to him, and then once I give him the Sonia pill, he's down for it. He's done.

• 1:07:18Speaker 00

  What is?

• 1:07:18Speaker 02

  He's done.

• 1:07:19Speaker 03

  I was gonna say, just brush up against his leg.

• 1:07:21Speaker 02

  Well, not if, not if I'm not interested. If I'm, first I want to see if I'm interested.

• 1:07:24Speaker 00

  What's in the Sonia pill?

• 1:07:26Speaker 02

  Just talk to him and, you know, um, try to connect, make him feel important and noticed and appreciated and comfortable. Make sure I don't say my name. I don't want him to know who I am right away. Like, if they know you're on TV, sometimes men do run.

• 1:07:41Speaker 00

  Oh, they get freaked out.

• 1:07:43Speaker 02

  If they live a very discreet.

• 1:07:44Speaker 03

  Well, they can't run off the plane.

• 1:07:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, they, he cannot, so you'll just shove him back down.

• 1:07:48Speaker 02

  What am I gonna do? Drag him in the bathroom?

• 1:07:51Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 1:07:51Speaker 03

  Would it be the first time?

• 1:07:53Speaker 02

  No, I never did that on a commercial plane, no. So disgusting.

• 1:07:57Speaker 00

  Private?

• 1:07:57Speaker 03

  Wait, wait.

• 1:07:58Speaker 02

  Did you?

• 1:07:58Speaker 03

  You have not done the Mile High Club?

• 1:08:00Speaker 02

  No, it's just so disgusting. As it is, I put the socks.

• 1:08:03Speaker 03

  Not in the toilet.

• 1:08:04Speaker 02

  I put the socks, I put the slippers.

• 1:08:06Speaker 03

  Good blanket you will do.

• 1:08:07Speaker 02

  I put the paper towels down, there's definitely nothing. I mean, I can't use those.

• 1:08:10Speaker 00

  So Luann's in the Mile High Club, maybe not for you.

• 1:08:12Speaker 02

  Oh, no, as it is, I have to put the slippers, the socks. And then put paper towels down, just to use the lavatory. I can't stand that sticky wet floor.

• 1:08:21Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:08:31Speaker 00

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• 1:10:32Speaker 03

  Sonia really, um, for me, has a heart of gold, meaning that she would not try to hurt somebody. You know what I mean? She doesn't have a really mean bone in her body. And that's what I like about her kindness. And her empathy and sympathy for people in general.

• 1:10:51Speaker 00

  Oh. Sonia, what is Luann's best quality as a friend?

• 1:10:55Speaker 02

  She's always there for me when I need her. I always call her when I need her for something that I know she can handle, because she's been through it as well. So I remember when I took down the portrait of my husband, it was hard for me, and you were there.

• 1:11:06Speaker 03

  We buried the dog.

• 1:11:07Speaker 02

  We had to pick up, no, one dog I have, he was hit by a car, and for three months he was in rehab, and she came with me all the way out to Long Island to pick up the dog. I was shaking. I was shaking. And, um, yeah, you came for the funeral. In fact, he's still with us.

• 1:11:23Speaker 03

  The ashes blew up my nose.

• 1:11:24Speaker 02

  She ingested the, the, the, the ashes.

• 1:11:29Speaker 03

  We put the ashes of Be- Belew, was it?

• 1:11:32Speaker 02

  Belew.

• 1:11:33Speaker 03

  Belew in the East River. And when Sonia went to put the ashes in the river, they all blew in our faces. Do you remember that?

• 1:11:39Speaker 00

  I do remember that. And I completely forgot.

• 1:11:41Speaker 03

  We have Belew in our noses still.

• 1:11:43Speaker 00

  On you forever, in you forever.

• 1:11:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:45Speaker 00

  When you look back, what is the biggest difference between who you were in season one of Rony and who you are today on The Golden Life? Each of you answer.

• 1:11:57Speaker 03

  Um, you know, the biggest difference is I think that we've built such a confidence over the years in terms of, you know, we've had to have a thick skin, you know, putting our lives out there, the ups and the downs and the all arounds and, you know, and we really put ourselves out there. And I think that, you know, it has made us strong as women. Uh, we, you know, we've been through divorce and, you know, and through boyfriends and through heartbreak, you know, in, in so many ways. And, you know, and we've been there for each other. And I think that, you know, I've grown after all this time, a lot in terms of, you know, from when I started, um, you know, I was married and to the count and, you know,

• 1:12:39Speaker 03

  I had that to protect, right? And then I had to protect the second marriage as well. And then I, you know, I lifted myself up and made a cabaret career for myself, which would never dream that it would be now global. And, um, and now I am in the driver's seat. Like I get to make all the choices. I don't have to live, you know, the kids are grown, you know, the husbands are gone and, you know, they're there, but they're, you know, and now I live the life that I want to live. And that's why I think that, you know, we're doing this show because it's all about living the golden life. And I think that, um, we hopefully inspire, uh, people to know that at this age, you can, you know, be busy, be

• 1:13:22Speaker 03

  productive and be as, you know, as incredible as you want to be.

• 1:13:25Speaker 00

  That is so beautiful.

• 1:13:27Speaker 03

  If you put your mind to it.

• 1:13:28Speaker 02

  You'll have to repeat the question for me.

• 1:13:31Speaker 00

  Sonia, how are you different from season one to now?

• 1:13:36Speaker 02

  Well, I didn't know what I was getting into. So, um, you know, that, that took time because I had a very private life. My husband was very private. The families are very private. So my husband had a terrible car accident. I was desperate. I mean, it was just devastating to not have him and to lose my best friend and raise my daughter on my own. Cause I didn't grow up that way. And I needed his input, but luckily my daughter, Quincy has her uncles and family members for her. Um, I learned how to be in a fish ball, but have a private life also. And then after that, once Quincy graduated, I learned,

• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  wow, I can do this show. My daughter graduated summa cum laude from UPenn and, um, I'm not just a show. I'm a very funny mother that's handled a lot. I went through so many, um, things financially, getting my estate together. And I make money independently without the show. We all learned that when the show wasn't airing in New York, we could, you know, the hustle was real and we could do it.

• 1:14:42Speaker 03

  We're survivors.

• 1:14:43Speaker 02

  I'm much stronger than I realized I was. At first I didn't think I could nurse my husband through all of that. I felt, oh, I'm way too selfish. I didn't even think I was able to have, you know, to be a good mom. And now I know I am, plus I can be independent, working and taking care of me and my family. And I can still support LGBTQ, animals, artists, children, all the things that I always wanted to do since I was in my teens.

• 1:15:06Speaker 00

  Well, I think that's beautiful, but kind of what both of you just said is like, of course there's the chaos and the fun and you guys are so entertaining. It's like, you can't replicate what you guys did. Like you said, like there's big shoes to fill for the new cast of Rony and like bless them and good luck to them. But like, what you guys gave us and continue to give us is really because of how authentic you've been for all those years. And like you said, Luanne, there's going to be moments where you're going through the hardest times of your life that you guys have shared on television and it made you guys so lovable though, because we were like, oh my God, I can't believe these people are sharing this. But that comes with a lot. That comes with a lot on you emotionally and personally

• 1:15:46Speaker 00

  and a lack of privacy. And to see you guys have navigated it so well. I, it's so exciting to now see that you guys are opening the door back up. Can you give us any sneak peek of what to expect on this new season and this new show? Like, give me anything.

• 1:16:03Speaker 03

  Oh my God. Well, I mean, you're going to see us continue to be our authentic selves, really. I mean, you know, New York was gritty and it was about us, you know, being parents and, you know, raising our children and, you know, along the way discovering who we are as women and growing into that, you know. Uh, my kids were on the show, you know, early and not a lot, but they were on the show. And, um, and I think that they've, they came out of it, you know, great. And my daughter lives, you know, in the Hamptons and she's living in Europe part of the time. Um, she's doing psychic mediumship now.

• 1:16:37Speaker 02

  Very good.

• 1:16:38Speaker 03

  She's really good. She read Sonia's Tarot cards. She's really into it. She has a gift from her ancestors from the, from the Delphoseps, actually.

• 1:16:45Speaker 00

  So cool.

• 1:16:45Speaker 03

  Um, and my son is an amazing oil painter. I mean, we, we raised our children, you know, we, um, have businesses, you know, created careers and, you know, running homes and we really juggled a lot. And, you know, and I think people, maybe we made it look easy, but it was really not, not that easy to, to juggle. And all the while having to show up looking beautiful.

• 1:17:09Speaker 00

  Fabulous.

• 1:17:10Speaker 03

  Right. And, and a great dress. But it was, really wasn't the focus of New York then. New York was really about, we didn't have makeup artists. We didn't have a stylist. We didn't have, and we still, I mean, we still barely have makeup artists and stylists, but doesn't, it's just not how, who we are as a franchise. And, and I think people can relate to that because it's very relatable. We're just normal people living our lives on TV, putting ourselves out there and hopefully, you know, helping people navigate their own lives.

• 1:17:37Speaker 02

  Well, I think the tidbit that, that I can share is, um,

• 1:17:43Speaker 02

  the fans have been, you like to say fans, I say followers, but you know, the followers who have been there supporting us through everything, um, they're going to get to see that we're there for them. And it's because of them that we're coming back. If they didn't say it so loudly and so often, E wouldn't have heard that. They would, you know, thank God E Network showed up at BravoCon and they saw that the OGs get the most applause when we walk around. That's who they're really invested in is the OGs because we have experience and like Luanne said, we're gritty. We don't do makeup. We're not, um, trying to look perfect. So they're going to see more of that.

• 1:18:19Speaker 03

  We try.

• 1:18:19Speaker 02

  It gets a little different when you're an empty nester and now you have your parents are older and you have your kids who are either working or not working, either struggling or surviving. And then you're going to see like what it means to have real freedom. You can sleep in, you can stay up late, you can do whatever you want because what comes with money, what, what comes with money that really is freedom is being able to do what you want when you want and with who you want.

• 1:18:47Speaker 00

  I was going to say, I love that you just said that too about the OGs. Cause I think what we can also agree is like, yes, you guys still have such a crazy fandom. And what we can all agree is you guys know how to put on a damn show. And so to know that this show is coming out, I think we're all just like, I can't wait to just sit and watch. And I don't care if you're making a, like literally in a fucking kitchen doing nothing.

• 1:19:11Speaker 02

  That's what we say.

• 1:19:12Speaker 00

  It's entertaining at its core. And so I just wanted to thank you from all of us fans for doing this because we need you guys back on TV. So to know it's coming, I just want to say congratulations. You guys deserve it. Also, congratulations on everything you guys have built. Like you've been referencing, like it is so truly inspiring to watch, yes, the Housewives franchise, but like you as women to yes, it's like men are not at the center of this. It's women. It's real stories. It's what you guys have been through. It's what you guys have

• 1:19:42Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 1:19:42Speaker 00

  actually overcome. And to be sitting here at this gorgeous, thriving age, I'm just like, oh my God, I can't wait to be inspired and I can't wait to be 60. So we're not going to let you down.

• 1:19:55Speaker 03

  You've got some time to go darling. And congratulations. I know you're due.

• 1:19:58Speaker 00

  Thank you. I know very soon. I knew it was going to be so fun, but I can't thank you enough. You guys are even more gorgeous in person and congrats and good luck on everything. I love you.

• 1:20:07Speaker 02

  We're going to see you on the other side when you pop that bun out.

• 1:20:10Speaker 03

  October 20th darling. Oh yeah. Hang on to your seatbelts because it's got to be

• 1:20:15Speaker 02

  Wonderful.

• 1:20:17Speaker 03

  One hell of a ride. It really is. And just like the good old days. So I'm excited for everyone to see the show.

• 1:20:21Speaker 00

  Congrats guys. Thank you for coming on Call Her Daddy.

• 1:20:24Speaker 02

  Thank you.

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