Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)

Welcome to the first episode of the CHD Summer Series. This week, Father Cooper sits down with Olivia Ponton. Alex and Olivia discuss their personal experience with long distance relationships…are they ever a good idea? Is it possible to live in the present while being in a long distance relationship? Summer has officially arrived and Pride Month has begun! Olivia reflects back on her first year of openly being a part of the LGBTQ+ community and shares what she has learned about herself along the way. The girls discuss their plans for summer, social media boundaries and Olivia dishes on a sky diving first date gone horribly wrong. Enjoy!

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Alex Cooper?

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• 3:11Alex Cooper?

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• 3:20Alex Cooper?

  Olivia?

• 3:21Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 3:21Alex Cooper?

  Welcome to Call Her Daddy.

• 3:23Speaker 03

  It's an honor to be here.

• 3:25Alex Cooper?

  So, it's summer. It's June 1st.

• 3:28Speaker 03

  Yes ma'am.

• 3:28Alex Cooper?

  But you grew up in Florida. So was it summer like all the time vibe for you?

• 3:32Speaker 03

  Like, I don't know. When I moved to Los Angeles, it was even weird. Like, I don't know, like it getting cold that night. I'm like, what is this? Like, I never, fun fact, I never owned like a sweatsuit until I moved to Los Angeles. Like, I never owned sweatpants growing up. Like, what was it? Where was I gonna wear sweatpants to?

• 3:48Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so did you, because I'm thinking like, this is basically kicking off, like, the summer vibe for Call Her Daddy. Did you and your family, like, what was your summer situation? Did you take trips and vacations during summer?

• 3:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, my family's like huge on travel. So, like, each summer, we would go to like a different country. So, I'm like, very well diverse in the traveling. That's like why I live, traveling so much. My last summer at home, we literally did like a European summer trip. It was a little weird, like, traveling with my family. It's like, we went to like, all these crazy places, but I was like, with my parents. I was like, awesome. Seventeen years old, I'm like, seeing like attractive people. And I was like, My mom is right there.

• 4:23Alex Cooper?

  Wait, I didn't even think about that of like when you're single and you kind of get to that age where you're traveling with your family and you're like, wait, I wish I was with my friends right now because I want to like go to the bars and like

• 4:33Speaker 03

  Exactly, exactly. But then it's like you're with your mom and you're just like, yeah, my mom's like, do you see anyone attractive? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, a lot of them, a lot of them, but I can't say anything.

• 4:45Alex Cooper?

  Right. Well, I'm going to bring them back to the hotel room with my mom and my dad. We're all going to cozy up together. Like, what the fuck?

• 4:51Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 4:52Alex Cooper?

  That's such a good point. Okay. I like completely forgot that concept and I can feel that for you. Okay. I need to know this because I actually feel like this tells like a lot about someone.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:01Alex Cooper?

  Are you the type of person that can like sit on the beach with a book and relax and tan and knock it up? Are you the person that's like, guys, come play paddle ball. Let's go in the ocean.

• 5:10Speaker 03

  I feel like I'm like the second option. Like I'm always like, can we go do something like, there's definitely my days where I'm like, okay, let's literally go sit on the beach. That's, I don't want to talk to anyone. My phone's like, they're on airplane mode all day. But then there's other times I'm like, I literally cannot sit still. I'm like, can we, and like in Florida, like everyone has boats. So you go boating, you go wakeboarding, you go, I water skied for like nine years of my life. So it was like, you were constantly doing something on top of like, just sitting and reading. Like, that's like a California thing, I feel like.

• 5:38Alex Cooper?

  That, that's, you're actually so right. I feel like Florida and California are completely different. And now you lived in both. Which do you prefer?

• 5:44Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 5:45Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 5:46Speaker 03

  That's, oh, wow. I've never actually been asked that question before. I always get like New York versus LA. New York, I mean, LA versus Florida, I would say I love Florida like as a state, like the weather wise, like, and kind of like my hometown's stunning. You know, don't really like what's going on with Florida right now. Um, and then here, I mean, I like the people more. I like how like open it is, how like I'm able to be who I am and like not get judged by anyone.

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• 10:07Alex Cooper?

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• 10:19Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 10:19Alex Cooper?

  How does that feel?

• 10:21Speaker 03

  It was absolutely insane. Like, I fell to the ground like crying. I was like, no. I was like, this is not real. Like, major imposter syndrome. I was like, this is not real. And then two weeks later, I literally went to Montenegro. That's where we shot it, which is like a really small place near Albania. And like, you travel by yourself. Like, it's like a full deal. And I'm like 19 years old, so I was like...

• 10:47Speaker 03

  I've traveled by myself, but you know, like New York to LA, you know, like LA to Mexico, like stuff like that, but never like a fourteen hour flight like. I stopped in Turkey for a little bit, like no idea where I was going. I was like, I could really get lost right now.

• 11:00Alex Cooper?

  Wait, and you're by yourself?

• 11:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, like coming back, I flew back with everyone because I was the last girl to shoot, but like going there like.

• 11:09Alex Cooper?

  I I can't even imagine going by myself at nineteen years old to a foreign country. Also to prepare for like one of like the biggest moments of your career. It's like fucking huge.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  I was like sitting in the airport, just like, where am I? This is not real. I was like, what am I doing with my life?

• 11:25Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so you show up and I was thinking like, okay, obviously I'm sure there were like so many glamorous moments of shooting this, but we need to hear Olivia. The not so glamorous moments, like what was an unglamorous moment with you that you were like, oh, my God, people would never anticipate or expect this.

• 11:41Speaker 03

  So it's swimsuits.

• 11:43Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  So you think you're going and shooting somewhere like warm.

• 11:45Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 11:46Speaker 03

  No, it was like October time, so. And the place that we were, it was like forty to fifty degrees and you're in like. Thong bikinis and you're like shooting in the water and it's like. Freezing and you're just like sitting in there and you're like shaking like I have so many funny photos of me like. You know, like when you're like in between changing and I'm like in this huge like robe jacket situation and. That was definitely like a moment where I was like, nobody would ever guess that we're like freezing in all of these photos.

• 12:19Alex Cooper?

  Because when you look at them, you're like, oh, my God, like it makes me want to be on a beat.

• 12:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I was like, oh, no, I was freezing. Like I was like shaking there. I'm like, they probably have to like edit out my goosebumps because it's like so bad.

• 12:30Alex Cooper?

  Okay, well, no one can tell that you were cold in the photos, so I have to give you props. Like your like teeth are chattering and all of a sudden you're like.

• 12:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like it's like you're, there was the last um shot that we did, I got like soaking wet and. We were like on this ledge kind of situation where like water was like crashing on it, but it wasn't like in the water. It was kind of odd, but I was like laying down in it and. The sun had already set, so there was like not really any sun. It was like very like glistening vibes. But I kid you not, it was probably like thirty degrees out, maybe forty. And the water was like absolutely freezing and you're just getting like splashed with water. You're sitting there, you're trying to be like super sexy and like so glamorous, but you're like, I like literally was like sitting there like trying to like roll around on this like block of cement, like trying to be sexy and it was like definitely a moment where I was like, I really hope this comes out well.

• 13:21Alex Cooper?

  Congratulations. I mean, it's so cool to sit with you and like hear the behind the scenes also because it's like such a cool moment. Also, especially because you're nineteen, Olivia. Is your family like so stoked or they?

• 13:33Speaker 03

  My family doesn't really process anything. Like even the way I moved out, I was just kind of like, I'm gonna go to Los Angeles for two weeks and then I'll be back and then I kind of just came here and I never left.

• 13:46Alex Cooper?

  How many siblings do you have?

• 13:47Speaker 03

  I have one older sister.

• 13:48Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 13:49Speaker 03

  Blessing. Love her.

• 13:50Alex Cooper?

  So you're like the baby that just left. Good for you. Okay. Well, you not only are you blowing up in the modeling world, but you've blown up on TikTok.

• 13:58Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 13:59Alex Cooper?

  Um, so we're gonna play a little game.

• 14:01Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 14:01Alex Cooper?

  Called TikTok made me do it.

• 14:03Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 14:04Alex Cooper?

  Okay, a trend you've tried because of TikTok.

• 14:09Speaker 03

  Emily Mariko's like salmon avocado. Have you not tried it?

• 14:13Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 14:13Speaker 03

  She did like salmon, rice, avocado, and then like the seaweed packets. And then you like mix it all together and you like make your own salmon roll.

• 14:21Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so now I need to go try it. Okay, something you've bought because of TikTok.

• 14:27Speaker 03

  You would think, growing up in Florida, I've always been blonde, that I would know what purple shampoo was. And then I got on TikTok and I got on TikTok right when like the purple shampoo thing was a trend and I was like, what is this stuff? And I went and it changed my life. I was like, so that was definitely something I was like, oh.

• 14:45Alex Cooper?

  That is such a good investment. It's my best friend.

• 14:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:48Alex Cooper?

  Okay, a random fact that you've learned from TikTok.

• 14:53Speaker 03

  This one's weird. I also don't know if it's true. I heard that your wingspan is how tall you are. But I'm five nine and I feel like my wingspan's not five foot nine.

• 15:01Alex Cooper?

  Okay, after this interview, I'm gonna get my tape measure and we're gonna do the entire. That's actually, I've heard that too, I think, and I don't know if I believe it. Okay, a song you've added to your playlist because of TikTok.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  All of my music comes from TikTok, first of all. Recently, I've put this song on repeat every single day for like, it's probably like a week and a half now. It's called like Ten Things I Hate About You by um Leah Kate. I think she was just on tour with Madison Beer. I think she was like the girl who opened up for her. And her, that song just went like insanely viral on TikTok and I like see it everywhere and I'm like, okay, let me listen to it. Let me see if it's like the hype. Charming in my car every day.

• 15:39Alex Cooper?

  So good. Okay, somewhere you've went because of TikTok?

• 15:43Speaker 03

  Hawaii. Hawaii's my favorite place. And I feel like Italy, like I see Italy all over my For You page. I want to go this summer so badly.

• 15:51Alex Cooper?

  Something you've become self-conscious of because of TikTok?

• 15:54Speaker 03

  Okay, growing up, I was pretty confident. I was very independent. Once I got on TikTok, I got very insecure about like my boobs and my body because I would just get like the most just meanest comments about it and I would just start like overthinking and I'd be like, wow, like I always like loved my body, like looking up to like models and whatnot. I was like, why is everyone, so I, you know, created boundaries and I like turn off my comments for like a solid like I think it was like twoish months and then eventually like I got more like secure with it.

• 16:26Alex Cooper?

  Have you ever responded back to like a troll and then regretted what you said?

• 16:31Speaker 03

  Not to a troll, but I actually used to be exactly like that, like in high school because I was so like independent, like I was very much like I'm fighting for myself person. So not that I was a bitch, but I was like a little, kind of like, um, like, why are you talking about me? Like especially girls in like high school, I'd be like, I would confront them. I'd be like, why are you talking like crap about me right now? So I feel like almost when I started social media, I had to like create like a boundary. I'm like, okay, like you can't respond. You know, people in my life helped me a lot with that because I'll be like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna blow up on them and they'd be like, calm down. It's okay. Talk to my therapist. And I'm like, okay.

• 17:06Alex Cooper?

  No, it's hard. It's like, it definitely is, takes a different level of self-restraint because you don't know the person. And so I guess that's why it's so easy for them to be mean to you because they don't know you. And then you reply back and I've done it before where I'm like. That was dumb. Why did I give in to that?

• 17:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:23Alex Cooper?

  And I now don't do it either. Okay. Today is June 1st, the first day of Pride Month. You've been so open about your sexuality. What are your plans to celebrate Pride this year?

• 17:36Speaker 03

  I just love Pride Month so much, but I would say, so last Pride Month, I came out, you know, on June 1st, I was bisexual. So I feel like kind of Pride Month last year was like, me kind of like figuring out what it was like to be bisexual, like being on social media and being like, wow, people are so accepting. And then you're like also dealing with like the not so nice people like in the streets or when you go to the parades, like dealing with like, you know, the mean people and just being like, I feel like this year, I'm definitely, there's West Hollywood Pride, June 3rd. And then there's obviously New York Pride. I think New York Pride is better personally. So definitely will be then.

• 18:12Alex Cooper?

  That's so exciting for you that you can fully like lean in this year. Let's go back to the moment you came out, right?

• 18:18Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 18:19Alex Cooper?

  How did you tell your friends and family?

• 18:22Speaker 03

  I called my mother and there was a lot of moments where I was like, I'm just gonna do it. Like spur of moments, I was like, I just need to tell her, like, it's such a secret and you kind of just hold it in for months and months that you're like, okay, I'm gonna do this. My mom was coming to visit me in two weeks and I was kind of lying to her about the relationship I was in. I was, you know, didn't really know exactly how to be like, hey, mom, I'm in a relationship with a female. And I eventually called her up one day and was just like spit it out and like gave 20 facts about the LGBTQ community and about my relationship. And she just was like, okay, like, cool. And I was like, okay, yeah, bye.

• 19:05Speaker 03

  And we like didn't talk for two weeks and then she came and visited me and she was like totally okay with it. And I was like, oh, this is awesome.

• 19:12Alex Cooper?

  Did she tell the rest of your family for you?

• 19:15Speaker 03

  I'm assuming, because I never told my dad. Um, I feel like I kind of came out with my dad by like sending him, um, I got him a shirt that said my daughter's gay. And I shifted to him because it was pride month and I was like, oh, I feel like I should get my family some rainbow swag. And just bought him like my daughter's gay shirt. And he like sent me a picture of him like smiling with him on and I'm just like, okay, he knows, like, he knows, like, that was kind of like me coming out to him.

• 19:42Alex Cooper?

  I love the not so subtle gesture is so baller. You're like, here you go, dad. If mom hasn't told you already, let's get into it.

• 19:51Speaker 03

  Fully. And then my dad has always been like, love whoever you want. Like, I don't care. And I was like, oh.

• 19:56Alex Cooper?

  Cool. That's amazing. And was your sister same? Like, did you?

• 19:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:01Alex Cooper?

  You're like, no.

• 20:02Speaker 03

  No, I called her because this was like right when we were getting close again and I was like, oh, I feel like I should like call my sister and be like, hey, by the way, like, you're probably gonna see it on social media soon. So. And she like screamed, she was so excited for me. She was like, no way, I'm so excited for you, blah, blah, blah. I was like, oh, perfect reaction. I was like, thank you. Thank you, sister.

• 20:22Alex Cooper?

  That's why like I appreciate you sharing that just because I know there's probably a lot of people that could be listening that are also going through what you went through a year ago, right? Like, they haven't come out yet, maybe they don't know how to do it.

• 20:32Speaker 03

  And it's so hard. Like, you have to really figure out what works best for you. Like, with my dad, like, I could, I tried telling him probably like twenty times. Like, there would be times where I'd be at home and I'd be like, okay, go up, tell him, he's sitting there, he's not doing anything, just tell him. I was like, I couldn't do it. So. I mean, my dad had a very, like, funny relationship, like, you know, it's like a lot of dad jokes. So I was like, I feel like that's kind of something that's funny, that he would look at it and he would laugh, but he would be like, oh, wait. Okay, like, okay, like, this is.

• 21:06Alex Cooper?

  Oh, that's cute. It's almost like to ca- like, look at each relationship and cater like how you feel and what your relationship with them is and like feel safe in the way that you've always felt safe with like your dad, it's humor.

• 21:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, and with my mom, it's like we're deeper. So it's just kind of like me just telling her that was like, she obviously knew that took a lot for me to say to her. So she was like, okay.

• 21:25Alex Cooper?

  Like, okay, was your mom the first person you came out to? Well, I guess not because you had a girlfriend at the time.

• 21:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I would say, like, I always kind of knew and I feel like I had one best friend where we like kind of came out to each other because we were like, I think I am, but like, I'm not sure. And I'd also, I was type, the type of person that was like, I don't want to come out until I like one thousand percent know that I am. Because there's always like the possibility where it really gets down to it that you're like, oh, I don't think I could do that. And.

• 21:55Speaker 03

  So I would say them or just kind of like, I mean, my best friend right now, Emma, we like would always have conversations. We'd be like, I think that I am, but I'm not sure. Like I think, and then I met my first girlfriend and I was like, okay, I am.

• 22:10Alex Cooper?

  How did you deal with those like internal feelings of struggling to to figure it out?

• 22:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. Ooh, I was very homophobic towards myself. So even when I was out, I was like, no, I'm not like, I don't know. There was always like the backhand thoughts. It's kind of like being insecure. It's like you're confident with it, but I was also like, is this like, is this bad? Like, is something bad gonna happen? Like, this isn't okay. Like, I'd get like random comments and I'd be like, really overthinking it. So I would say just kind of like, for me, it was like, I needed to be in a relationship with a female to be like, okay, I'm one thousand percent in this. I came out and like, you know, really realized and like so many things made sense. Like when I was younger, I was like, oh, that's the feeling that I had with that person. Okay.

• 22:57Alex Cooper?

  Got it. So then it kind, that's amazing to also hear. Like then it started to all kind of click for you, but I love how you also compare it to like that insecurity feeling of like the unknown and like not knowing how to handle that. I think everyone can relate to that feeling. What is the biggest thing that you've learned about yourself over the past year?

• 23:16Speaker 03

  Definitely when I came out, I came out as bisexual and I was in a really long-term relationship and then I got out of it and was able to experiment with all kinds of people. And I mean, I'm so happy, but I figured out that I was pansexual and I came out with that in the past year. So I feel like that was kind of something, probably the biggest thing that I kind of realized about myself in the past year.

• 23:41Alex Cooper?

  Can you talk about, just for anyone that doesn't understand the difference between being bisexual and pansexual?

• 23:48Speaker 03

  Yeah. So the difference between it is bisexual is just liking boys and girls or, you know, men and female and. With being pansexual, it's like anyone. And I would say almost with being pan, for me, it's like I care more about the vibe between the two people and like the connection that we have. And you know, it's also being open to talking to non-binary people, to be open to talking to transgender people. And I feel like for me, like I'm so open to anything. So I feel like that's just kind of when I met someone who was non-binary and I was like, oh, I really like you. I was like, okay. So it's, I feel like it's honestly very similar and I think when people think it's so much more common than people realize.

• 24:31Alex Cooper?

  And I think it's great when anyone is like speaks up about it because it's not their responsibility to educate us, but like it is our responsibility to listen.

• 24:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:40Alex Cooper?

  Are there any pansexual um celebrities that you admire?

• 24:44Speaker 03

  Okay, Madison Bailey, she's in Outer Banks, love her.

• 24:47Alex Cooper?

  Obsessed.

• 24:47Speaker 03

  When I found out she's pansexual, I feel like I loved her like ten times more because I was like, yes. Um, there's Cara Delevingne, obviously, I think she's absolutely stunning. And I feel like just also like with being pansexual, it's like you really just don't care. Like with, I mean, with bisexual, I feel like I don't really care either, but it's like you really don't care. Like it is purely an emotional relationship when you are with dating someone who is pansexual. You know, before I even came out, I was to the T focused on being like a male's ideal woman and I like I achieved it. I was the blonde, long-haired, super glammed out every single day girl. And you know, like I had male's attention twenty-four seven, but I was like

• 25:31Speaker 03

  really came down to it was all a validation thing. It was like, I just wanted them to call me pretty. So I felt validated, but it was like, I didn't like them. So I was like, that's kind of my journey with like figuring out that I was bisexual because I was like, oh, like you're telling me pretty like makes me feel really good. But then I'm like, I don't like kissing you. I don't like doing this. I'm like, mm.

• 25:50Alex Cooper?

  You're raised to be like, which, so which boy do you like? And even aside from the sex, like the sex part of it, you're more just like, oh, so I'm supposed to like, like a boy and hopefully they like me.

• 26:02Speaker 03

  Exactly. And it starts with like the hopefully they like me part is really where it gets in like your brain. Because honestly, like I think like we like women are pieces of art and we

• 26:15Speaker 03

  deserve for the boys to be like, oh, do are they going to like me back? Not us being like, does he like me? Oh, my gosh, is he gonna text me back? Oh, my gosh, does he want to go on a second date? It's like, no, do like, you should be asking yourself that.

• 26:28Alex Cooper?

  Do you like him?

• 26:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:29Alex Cooper?

  And that's all that matters.

• 26:30Speaker 03

  And I feel like that's almost like a question that I was like, start asking myself more recently is like, I'll notice about myself being like, oh, like, why aren't they texting me back? But I'll be like, hold on. Do I even like them as a person? I'm like, I'll calm down and I'll be like, put my phone away and like, sit in the mirror for like twenty minutes and I'll be like, I'll literally write down all the green flags, all the red flags. And I was like, I'll come to a conclusion. I'll be, I probably don't like them. I just crave it.

• 26:54Alex Cooper?

  Point when you're dating, it really is interesting. I feel like I saw a TikTok on this recently of someone being like, you're constantly looking at the person that you're on a first date, second with, date with, and you're hoping that they're gonna like you. And it's like, you leave that first date, did you like them?

• 27:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:09Alex Cooper?

  Did you like their personality?

• 27:11Speaker 03

  And so many people forget that, that you need to like, go home and be like, are they the type of person that I want to spend the next years with?

• 27:19Alex Cooper?

  Or do I just like the validation?

• 27:21Speaker 03

  Exactly. And I feel like that's something that I struggle like, till this day, I'll be like, oh, my gosh, like, I liked them so much. Kind of, do they like me back? And then I'll sit there and I'll be like, I'll talk about it with my mom, because we talk all of the time. And I'll be like, yeah, I'm kind of like how they made me feel, but I'm kind of just craving the validation right now. So I'm like, I need to cut things off and just stop this here.

• 27:45Alex Cooper?

  I think that's very relatable. Okay, how has being open about who you really are affected your mental health?

• 27:53Speaker 03

  It affected it amazingly. Um, as before, I was like, living in a secret kind of, and I like, wasn't able to like, tell the people in my life, like, what was going on. I'd be like, yeah, works good. So I feel like when I came out, it just helped it tremendously. I was able to be so open about who I liked, what I liked. Going on dates, like telling people everything. And I feel like, also just with myself, like, kind of accepting it made.

• 28:22Speaker 03

  Just something in my brain click and it clicked and it made me so much happier on like the day to day basis.

• 28:29Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I remember lightly seeing there were like ridiculous rumors on TikTok that you came out for attention. People were saying one of your relationships was fake. Why do you think that happened?

• 28:42Speaker 03

  So this is also struggles. This is something that I struggle with on the day to days. Like I'm very hyper femme and you know, looking at me, this is one thing that like I eventually want to change in the LGBTQ community is like being femme and being gay is a very common thing. And I think it's why a lot of girls are scared to come out because they're like, oh, but I don't look the certain way. But it's like, there's no certain way that you have to look like I dress like this every day. I do my makeup. I do my hair and I'm, I'm very gay. So people just also didn't want to accept it like because I was catering to the men audience so much that they were just kind of almost I feel like hurt by it. And they were just like, no, you're not like, you're not gay. And I was like,

• 29:23Speaker 03

  wait, yeah, I am. I was like, hold on. I was like, this was a lot. Um, I can assure none of my relationships have ever been fake, especially because I'm very like emotionally invested in people that like when people would say it was fake, I'd be like, nah.

• 29:37Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 29:37Speaker 03

  I don't even have the mental capacity to like have a have a fake relationship right now. So.

• 29:42Alex Cooper?

  How has being open about your sexuality affected your friendships?

• 29:47Speaker 03

  So in my hometown, it was a little hard. I lost some friends there just because lack of education. People just don't wanna believe or they just are like, wait, that doesn't make sense. Or it comes down to like the, wait, were you attracted to me thing? And I was like, no, I wasn't like, just wanted to let you know that like I am in a relationship with a female or I'm bisexual or whatever it would be. So I would say a little hard in my hometown, but.

• 30:15Alex Cooper?

  Was that most of it when they would, would they say to you like, oh, are you attracted to me? Like, did anyone ever say?

• 30:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, oh, fully all of the time. And I'd be like, I think you would know if I would be attracted to you. Like I would flirt with you or something of the sort. I'm also not one to like be attracted to somebody and not say anything. Like if I like you, like I'm going to flirt with you and I'm going to like, you know, I'm very like honed down on it. So, but in Los Angeles, like I lost no friends. Like it was kind of awesome because I even. Got the opportunity to make friends with other people in the LGBT community by being open about it and just being like, oh, like, it's like, kind of something to bond about.

• 30:48Alex Cooper?

  I also love the confidence of you being like, you know, I'm gonna own it. I'm gonna give you guys another chance. I'm gonna explain it to you and you can take it for what you want it to be.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  It's lack of education. They don't know. And it's like, maybe they are too, and they just don't know. And just kind of the lack of like, experience as well.

• 31:16Alex Cooper?

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• 33:33Alex Cooper?

  So in terms of relationships, everyone is always writing into me like, Alex, give us advice on long distance relationships. How the fuck do I maintain this? What do I do? Is it worth it? Should I stay with this person? You've had a long distance relationship. How did you manage to stay close with someone who lives so far away?

• 33:53Speaker 03

  Well, I've had numerous long distance relationships and it's hard. Like I feel like with myself, every relationship I get into is long distance. Even my friendships, all my friendships are long distance. It's like, it's kind of weird to say, but it's like, I'll go two months without seeing my friends and I'll be like, love you guys. Like I'll, I FaceTime them. I think FaceTime is probably the best advice that I could give and like, schedule times to FaceTime. So it's not just like a, oh, they're not answering me. It's like, no, we're going to go get smoothies together via FaceTime. Once a week or twice a week, or however much you want to like have that communication with them. I feel like that would be the best. I also don't strongly recommend long distance, even though like I can't say that because I'm literally, that would be me.

• 34:37Alex Cooper?

  Olivia, remember this for the next one.

• 34:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. But it's like regardless, like anything with me, it's like being by coastal. It's like, well, I could have a relationship in New York, but then I come to LA and it's going to be long distance. Or I go to, I travel besides just New York and LA. I'm constantly in different places. So I feel like. I don't recommend it, but it's also kind of inevitable in certain situations.

• 34:59Alex Cooper?

  I do appreciate though, like I have did the same thing when I was somewhat long distance. Scheduling those FaceTime dates, you naturally would be probably going on a date this Thursday night. Like hey, let's have a date night FaceTime date and schedule that time. That's really good advice.

• 35:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, definitely. And then you guys can cook dinner on the phone together and you know, like eat dinner and it's like a three hour FaceTime call, but it's like, and people will be like, oh, that's so stupid. But I'm like, honestly, it's not because I haven't seen them in two weeks and I like, want to tell them about work or whatever it would be.

• 35:29Alex Cooper?

  Do you think being in a long distance relationship makes it more difficult to live in the present moment?

• 35:35Speaker 03

  One thousand percent. Yes. It's, I mean, I'm sure you know, it's like, you're constantly, my screen time was like probably doubled when I was in any long distance relationship. And, cause I'm always texting the person, just being like, hey, like I'm thinking about you, like you're at an event and I feel like at events, like it's, it's work. So you're there and you're trying to be on your A game, but then you're like, oh, I haven't answered them in five hours. Like I need to like text them and like, I even got down to the point where I was texting them probably every like 20 minutes. And it was like, okay, Olivia, get off your phone. You're at work right now. Stop.

• 36:08Alex Cooper?

  That's why those are, they are so hard is because I'm thinking about, it's like, you can feel guilty. You can feel, start to feel insecure. Like what is the other person doing?

• 36:17Speaker 03

  Exactly. Cause my also thing is I will like post on my social media and not answer anyone and people get so offended by that. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, like it's, it's not.

• 36:26Alex Cooper?

  I even need to open my text.

• 36:27Speaker 03

  Yeah. Like all of my text messages are, I haven't answered my mom today. Like it's, it's not a personal thing. It's like, oh, I like had to post this at this time or I'm in the car and I'm taking a selfie. Like I'm not answering text messages. Like no, I'm taking a picture and posting on my story. Like it's not that deep.

• 36:42Alex Cooper?

  I've had in long distance when you know they're going out and you're not, and you're like, I'm sitting in my pajamas with my pimple cream on. And you see that they're like going to the club and you want to not be like over the top. Cause you don't want to trigger them of like, oh God, I have my like crazy girlfriend being like, well, are you going to text me when you're at the club? So you're trying to be chill, but then you're also like, make me feel secure.

• 37:05Speaker 03

  I'm like, come on. Exactly. And I think that was honestly probably like the hardest thing, like just in like a long distance relationship. In general, like I've gone like months without seeing the person. It's like, well. And I go out like a decent amount for like events and work and dinners and not being on my phone and it's like, oh crap, like, I don't ever want them to feel insecure because they shouldn't.

• 37:28Alex Cooper?

  Was there anything ever you or a partner did that was like super cute to keep it fun and like surprise one another?

• 37:34Speaker 03

  Ooh, I personally hate surprises. I've never been a surprising person. I'm like, nope. Like, just tell me. Like, if you're planning on coming see me, just tell me. I feel like just other cute things, like just like fun dates, like, like more recently, I have a rule. Um, I will not go to dinner with someone. Like, you want to take me on a date, we are not going to dinner. Like, let's go do something. Like, I had this guy, I told him that. And I was like, okay, cool. And he was like, okay, I have a crazy day planned. Like, let's do this. And I was like, okay. He was like, um, wear like athletic leisure. So I was like, okay, maybe we're going to go work out. I don't know, like boxing, something. And I picks me up and we're in the car for maybe like forty five minutes.

• 38:15Speaker 03

  And I'm like, oh, like where are we? I also lived in Calabasas. So we were like driving further. So I'm like, where are we going? Also, first date. So I'm like, this man could kill me.

• 38:24Alex Cooper?

  Oh, yeah, I'm like, are you gonna die? Like, what?

• 38:27Speaker 03

  And all of a sudden, he like looks at me and he's like, we're going skydiving.

• 38:31Alex Cooper?

  What?

• 38:32Speaker 03

  I was like, I'm scared of heights. I, you, I probably should have told you this before that, but I am like deathly afraid of heights. Skip forward, um, I actually ended up getting out of the car and Ubering home and I was like, I never talked to him again. I was like, no, like, this is, this is, that was kind of like the biggest red flag that like you were gonna take me skydiving.

• 38:52Alex Cooper?

  To take someone skydiving on a first fucking date when you've never met in person? How did you meet that person?

• 38:59Speaker 03

  I met them because I used to live in a content house. So our content house would have like events.

• 39:05Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:06Speaker 03

  So it was like an event that we were having and we just had like mutual friends. And I was like, oh, like, you're cool, like, and he's very like spontaneous. So I was like, okay, like, I need to date someone that's spontaneous. So I was like, okay, cool, like, got it, like, let's do this. And then

• 39:20Alex Cooper?

  He just took it too far.

• 39:21Speaker 03

  Just went right over his head, like the spontaneous level.

• 39:24Alex Cooper?

  So you just said, hey, I'm not down and you just Ubered back?

• 39:27Speaker 03

  I just was kind of like, can you?

• 39:29Alex Cooper?

  Did he go skydiving?

• 39:30Speaker 03

  I don't think so. I don't, I don't, I like literally like never answered him after that. I was like, sayonara, dude.

• 39:36Alex Cooper?

  Okay, also because you're afraid of heights.

• 39:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:38Alex Cooper?

  Like, no.

• 39:39Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. I was like, I'm already definitely scared of planes, even as much as I am on them. I'm terrified of planes. So I was like, the fact that you just asked me to jump out of one with you. I don't even trust you. I don't even know you. I'm like, we're not even dating. I'm like, hold on.

• 39:54Alex Cooper?

  Right. It can be romantic if you're with like, you're the love of your life and you're like, let's do this and who knows what's gonna happen. It's like, bitch, I don't know you.

• 40:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was like, this is a lot for me. I was like, get me out of this car right now.

• 40:04Alex Cooper?

  I'm not risking my life with a random. Um, okay, so with regard to all the long distance relationships you've had, did most of them end because of the long distance?

• 40:15Speaker 03

  I feel like it would be a factor in it, but like never, it was never like the pure reason that I was like, we're breaking up because of distance. Like, I should have never, I should have cut the relationship off when it became long distance in any relationship, just because it made things way harder than it needed to be. Um, that's why I don't recommend long distance, but you know.

• 40:35Alex Cooper?

  Do you think there's an expiration date to like all long distance relationships?

• 40:39Speaker 03

  I would say like max, like, I mean, it also depends what kind of long distance you are, because I know friends that live in Los Angeles and then like the other significant other lives in Vegas. And it's like, that's such a quick flight back and forth. They see each other like all the time. But it's like, also for me, it's like, if I were in Los Angeles and I was dating someone in New York, it's like, first of all, different time zones. Also, I'm kind of not just in one specific time zone. I'll be like, when I was in my Sports Illustrated, like in Montenegro, like, oh, the time difference, the time difference, I think it was like nine hours. And it's like, I don't even talk to you the whole day because when you're sleeping, I'm awake and when I'm awake, you are sleeping.

• 41:20Alex Cooper?

  Or when, even when people are going to different colleges from each other and they're like, should I break up with this person? I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but probably because it's like, you're not going to be present.

• 41:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:31Alex Cooper?

  We're too young to not be present in our lives.

• 41:33Speaker 03

  And that was my biggest thing. It was like, I was missing out on all these crazy opportunities. Because I was like, oh no, my partner won't feel comfortable with this. Like, I'm so sorry. And it's happened numerous times with numerous partners. It's just kind of like a me thing that I feel like almost I need to work on. Um, but you don't live in the present at all.

• 41:53Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

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• 45:03Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so more general dating questions. Do you consider flirting cheating? 1,000%. Why are you flirting with someone else? If your partner has never posted any pictures of you on social media, do you consider that a red flag? Any foot, like if they haven't posted any, I think it's a red flag. 1,000%. I also do think it's a really red flag if they're posting you a lot and like consistently. Um, just from like my own like knowledge of like things that have happened. I'm like, okay. Know what I'd like, know what I don't like. So if like that's like moving forward, I'm like, mm. Yeah, like don't. Why are you doing that too much? Like a camera in my face in the morning, maybe not. Yeah. Okay. Is it okay to break up with someone through a text message? Yes, and people are so controversial. Do you think?

• 45:48Alex Cooper?

  I, I wasn't expecting you to be so definitive. So I know I'm just. No, I'm 1,000%. I have broken up with people over text message. I have been broken up with numerous times over text message. I've been broken up over an email before. Like I've been broken up on Instagram DMs, Snapchat, like anything. But it's like, I don't know, just take like any form of social media. Also, when you're long distance, it's like, am I really going to trail this person on for the next like month until I see them and then break up with them? Like, no, like then that becomes messy and then there's like. But maybe could you call them?

• 46:21Speaker 03

  Well, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like also that, um,

• 46:23Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 46:23Speaker 03

  I've like called people like, yeah, like I've done that.

• 46:25Alex Cooper?

  Better than email, the email. What is the subject line of a breakup email?

• 46:29Speaker 03

  Sorry.

• 46:30Alex Cooper?

  Sorry. Goodbye. Have a nice life.

• 46:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:33Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, that's rough. It's rough, but I get what you're saying. Like in some circumstances, it could be maybe justified. I think an Instagram DM is a little aggressive, Olivia.

• 46:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, I didn't do that. I just got, I got broken up with over an Instagram DM and I was like, this was harsh. I was like, okay.

• 46:49Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, that is harsh. That's really harsh.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  Can you unsend it so I don't have to see it anymore?

• 46:54Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Which is worse for you? A heated argument with your partner in front of A, your parents?

• 47:02Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 47:02Alex Cooper?

  B, your friends, or C, your people you work with?

• 47:06Speaker 03

  Oh, definitely the people I work with. Cause I feel like with my family and friends, I can like, justify it and be like, no, I swear they're a good person. Work people? They're like, we saw that? Uh-uh. They're done. Next. No, no, no. Like you are not going back to this person. We see their true colors. We want what's best for you. No. I was like.

• 47:25Alex Cooper?

  I kind of agree and it's kind of like embarrassing. Like again, you can justify if like it's a dumb fight and you go to your parents. You're like, hey, we're having an off day. To the work, people you work with, you're like, I don't even, I, we shouldn't even have to be having this conversation because this is work and like, why are we now? Why did you just watch me fight with my partner?

• 47:42Speaker 03

  Exactly. This is a little awkward now.

• 47:44Alex Cooper?

  Totally. Okay. So you being on social media so often, I think like everyone that is on social media, I definitely think in the pandemic, it was like, kind of almost not, I would never say healthy, but like it was helping a lot of people with loneliness and TikTok came about because everyone was like finding almost a community through there. Now I think a lot of people are back to talking about the negative effects of social media. And there's a lot of like detrimental things to our mental health that come from it. Can you talk about the boundaries that you personally have had to set for yourself with social media?

• 48:22Speaker 03

  I started using the feature on your phone where it's like the do not disturb, where you get like zero notifications. It's awesome.

• 48:27Alex Cooper?

  It's so good.

• 48:28Speaker 03

  People hate me because I don't answer, but I'm like, like I'll, and you don't even get phone calls. So like my phone is like not buzzing at all. I'm like, this is awesome. Like I'm not, I have not, nobody's trying to contact me. All of a sudden I look at my phone and there's like 20 missed calls. I'm like, dang it. So I feel like boundaries wise, I mean, even when I turned off my comment section for that time, because I couldn't. Read people making fun of my body anymore. And I feel like just it came down to a point where I now have like very strong boundaries with me on social media and Certain things I'll talk about and like bring up and be like, hey, that wasn't cool, but kind of just like Genuinely doing that.

• 49:04Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, I think, I mean, I don't have my comment section on anymore. And I think like a lot of people still to this day are like, Oh, you can't take the heat. And I'm like, it's actually not, it was actually that I I will I, yeah, it was hurting my feelings.

• 49:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:17Alex Cooper?

  That it

• 49:18Speaker 03

  And you were just like

• 49:18Alex Cooper?

  It wasn't helping my life. So I turned them off. And now I think I've gotten to the point where I'm like, Why? Yeah. Why would I like go back? Because I don't really want to hear. And I do Love when people are so nice and like, oh, open your comments so we can like hype you up like you look great. But I'm like, You know what? It's like The negative validate or the negative comments, like also sometimes how much positive validation we get on the internet is not normal also.

• 49:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:43Alex Cooper?

  So kind of like I I think it was probably a good idea for a moment to like step back if it's affecting you.

• 49:49Speaker 03

  Fully, fully.

• 49:50Alex Cooper?

  What is your advice for people who are bombarded with images on social media that make them feel bad about themselves?

• 49:56Speaker 03

  I was literally talking like I was dealing with this two mornings ago. It was I mean, I feel like every morning I wake up and I like scroll through my Instagram. I'm like, oh, what's going on? And I feel like I get bombarded. I mean, I follow all the amazing models and like, don't get me wrong, love women, literally love women. But sometimes it like really messes with your head because you're like, oh, like, like you were talking about, like, Oh, my stomach doesn't look like that. Oh, my boobs don't look like that. Oh, like they're working out right now. Oh, my gosh, I haven't worked out today. Like, I need to go work out. Things like that. And I feel like my advice would to be Social media, that one picture Is literally so constructed. It's by a really good photographer. You have your hair done. You have your makeup done. You have your nails done.

• 50:38Speaker 03

  That's not what I look like 24/7. Even right now, I look like this maybe. Like, uh, like, I don't even know how, like, not that often. Like, I was doing my makeup and I was like, wow, I haven't put like a face of makeup on in like few weeks. I'm like, this is weird, but just kind of like people present themselves as like the best possible version of themselves. So I feel like on social media, you just gotta remind yourself, like, okay, this was a split second on one time of their day. It's not real.

• 51:06Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, everyone is going to present their perfect life and even think if you have an insecurity, think about yourself. What did you just post?

• 51:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:13Alex Cooper?

  A perfect looking version of.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  That's like even the part that messes with my head. Cause I'm like, I'm doing the same thing. I'm falling in the trap. I'm posting these beautiful photos that I get back and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so excited to post this, but it's probably detrimental to like other people. And I'm like, ah, so I get in my head about it. I'm like, I don't want like, I'm kind of on like a boycotting Instagram right now. Cause I don't want to fall into that, even though I like very much. I'm guilty of already doing it, but.

• 51:39Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, it's like a vicious cycle. Like I don't post as much as I used to definitely because I keep having to remind myself like, wait, why am I posting this again? Like what, who's this for?

• 51:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, like.

• 51:48Alex Cooper?

  What's the point of this?

• 51:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:49Alex Cooper?

  So summer, like I said, wrapping it up, summer is upon us. Olivia, do you have advice for women that are just like trying to go live their best life in summer, but maybe are feeling a little insecure, are feeling like they're not ready to like get out there and like live their best life because they're, they're seeing things on social media and they're like, I can't live up to that.

• 52:08Speaker 03

  I mean, I feel like, honestly, my biggest thing is like, just do it. I've even noticed when I first moved to New York, I had zero friends. I knew nobody besides my agent and I was in like this pickle for like an awkward three months because I didn't know anyone and I was like, I have no friends. I'm nervous to do anything. And then I just started like doing stuff and I would go to the gym and I would walk and go get coffee and I would like honestly, go to Central Park and like walk around and it's like. Just you'll be at the hot dog stand and you'll see the girl right next to you and she looks cool and I'm like, hey, like, what's up? Like, my name is Olivia. And it's kind of like that situation. It's way easier than people process. And yes, it's very anxiety filled. But once you

• 52:51Speaker 03

  kind of like turn it as in especially New York City, like

• 52:54Alex Cooper?

  That's a, I think that's great advice. So many women write in being like, I'm in a new city. How do I make friends? And like the fact that you're like, you literally just turned to someone like, hey, I'm Olivia. Like, you're kind of right. Like, a lot of these cities specifically, like, I know people have moved to Austin, Nashville, like, so many people are moving to these cities, Chicago, and they're like, uh, got no friends, like, but you're, we're all saying it. So just maybe try and introduce yourself and see what happens.

• 53:18Speaker 03

  I'm so excited for summer. Like, I'm going to Egypt. I'm like,

• 53:21Alex Cooper?

  Olivia's going to Egypt and I'm going to be on my couch watching your Instagram stories.

• 53:26Speaker 03

  No, you have not.

• 53:27Alex Cooper?

  I'm so excited for you. Honestly, congratulations on everything, like

• 53:30Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 53:30Alex Cooper?

  Getting that swimsuit, like, it's just truly, like, I grew up looking at that shit.

• 53:35Speaker 03

  Oh, me too. I don't believe it's so. I'm like, wait, I saw myself and I was like, that's, no, that's not me. That's not me. But I'm like, have it in my, I printed it out in like the huge form and I put it in my apartment. So like, I can look at it and be like, that is me.

• 53:51Alex Cooper?

  Damn.

• 53:52Speaker 03

  Remember that, Olivia. Yes.

• 53:53Alex Cooper?

  Happy Pride Month. Thank you, Olivia, for coming on.

• 53:55Speaker 03

  Thank you for having me.

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