Kenzie: Love Island Tell All

Fresh out of the villa, Kenzie joins Alex in the studio to unpack her entire Love Island journey, including what the cameras didn’t catch. She gets into every connection she explored, the double standards that followed, and the chaos of managing a roster. She also addresses the post-villa drama, where she stands with the girls, and what the future holds for her and Dylan.

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• 2:06Speaker 02

  What is up daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.

• 2:15Speaker 00

  Kenzie, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  Thank you, Alex.

• 2:19Speaker 00

  I am so excited to meet you. You literally look like you just came from Fiji. You're in your little booty shorts, you're in your little tank, you're tan. How are you feeling?

• 2:29Speaker 02

  I feel amazing. It feels surreal. I'm definitely fangirling over you so hard right now. Listen to your podcast all the fucking time. You were the first podcast I started listening to. You are the reason I know how to suck dick. No joke, no joke. And I get compliments all the time and it's because of you. It's literally because of you. I just listen to everything you said and I'm like, okay, I'm putting this to work.

• 2:52Speaker 00

  I'm actually dying because Kenzie walks in here and she's like, oh my God, wait, and you're pregnant. I didn't find that out till I just left the villa. I'm like, babe, from the gluck gluck to pregnancy, we've gotten range. Shit has changed. Thank you for saying that. I'm, I'm obviously a huge fan of yours. Watching you this season has been such an experience. I was thinking about it. Obviously, you just graduated nursing school and then you literally are on the biggest television show essentially in the world. How do you feel about all the attention?

• 3:22Speaker 02

  Um, it's definitely wild. I've, I was not expecting any of this. Like, I'm just feel like I'm a normal girl from Kennesaw, Georgia. I just have a, I drive like 2013 Lexus, like I call her beat up Betsy. I lock the front doors myself. Like, I can't even listen to music on there. I listen on my phone. Like, my radio don't work. Like, I'm just like this nursing and nannying, you know? It's just like, I, this is surreal and I never like expected to be here. I just manifested all of it. Even right when I got off, I was like, Call Her Daddy, please.

• 3:51Speaker 00

  Oh my God. That's kinda crazy. I didn't know that you were a fan. So then here that

• 3:55Speaker 02

  Oh, I've always been a fan.

• 3:57Speaker 00

  Queen. Okay, we gotta get you a new car.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  I know.

• 4:00Speaker 00

  What kind of car do you want?

• 4:01Speaker 02

  Um, I want a baby blue like car. I used to drive a baby blue convertible, but I wrecked it like really bad.

• 4:08Speaker 00

  Okay, okay. All right. Well, we'll try to get you a new car.

• 4:10Speaker 02

  Bronco, baby blue Bronco. Surfboard at the top, please. Dylan's taking me for surf lessons.

• 4:19Speaker 00

  Kenzie, okay, okay, okay. I'm thinking about it also. There's a lot we have to discuss today because you had a very eventful summer, obviously. You won a karaoke challenge. You found yourself in multiple love triangles. You redefined what a handshake means. You did more splits than I think anyone has ever done on this earth. And you became truly one of the most debated islanders of this season.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  That's wild.

• 4:46Speaker 00

  When you got your phone back, what conversation surprised you the most?

• 4:50Speaker 02

  Um, probably just, kinda just being exactly like sincere and stuff. That, that kinda threw me for a loop. And then also just the hate comments on Dylan. Um, I was not expecting that because he's been nothing but amazing. And I was like, I was just, my jaw was on the floor for him. And it, it hurt my heart so bad to see him upset.

• 5:13Speaker 00

  Well, I want to get into all that because I feel like, yes, a lot of people either were like, you were so messy, or they thought you were misunderstood, or they were like, this is the only person that's actually doing the experience completely right. I want to go back a little bit though. Before we get into the details of Love Island, how did you even end up on this show? Like, what made you want to apply?

• 5:32Speaker 02

  So I actually had never watched the show. I've watched the UK Love Island like once. Love them, huge fan. But my best friend in nursing school, Hannah, she like told me, hey, you should apply for Love Island. And I was like, uh, okay. And I'd been studying all day. And I just like did a 90 questionnaire, talking, I was eating dinosaur nuggets in my coffee. It was like 4:00 PM, right after my hot girl walk. And then I'm like, I, I did that. And then after that, I failed nursing, like failed my last test in nursing school. You have to get a 75 and above. I got a 74.96. So it was point 04 off and

• 6:15Speaker 00

  It was the 2030 thing.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. It was 100% the 2030 thing. That's what fucked me fucking over, bro. Like, ah, what the fuck? But I ended up having a break. I went to, I got my hair done and like all different. And yeah, I, I took a breath for myself and then got back in the game and finished on December. No, when did I graduate? It was like literally right before January, March, like, uh, March 12th. And then I was sent on the 13th, like the day after.

• 6:50Speaker 00

  So your friend was the one that was like, maybe you should do this?

• 6:52Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 6:53Speaker 00

  And, and is this like typical Kenzie fashion? Were any of your friends surprised you would do Love Island? Or were they like, oh, that's so classic her?

• 6:59Speaker 02

  No, it's actually crazy because they, my dance friend, like right before I went on, she's on the Hawks dance team. And she messaged me and was like, I think you would be amazing on Love Island. And I'm, I'm like literally about to go on. I'm like, haha.

• 7:14Speaker 00

  You'll see me on your TV soon, babe.

• 7:15Speaker 02

  I'm like, okay, girl. I love you.

• 7:17Speaker 00

  Wow. And did you get the bangs for Love Island? Or you just got it because you were changing up your look?

• 7:22Speaker 02

  I just got it because I was changing up my look. And, and when you're in clinicals, you have to have your hair all the way pulled back. So I was never allowed to have like hair pieces. So I did that. And then I was like, what else am I going to do with the break? And I'm like, I've always wanted tits. So I'm like, I'm gonna buy boobs. And that's what I did with my time off. So when I came back to nursing school, they were like, they were like, who is this?

• 7:42Speaker 00

  Oh my God, you got tits in between nursing school?

• 7:45Speaker 02

  Yes. And it was not for the show or anything. Like, it was just because, you know, like growing up, you're like, what do you want? You want to be, you want boobs as a woman? Like, I wanted to feel like a woman. I got like 400 cc.

• 7:58Speaker 00

  Oh, you showed up and you said, give me tits?

• 8:00Speaker 02

  I'm showing up, showing out. Give me, give me those babies.

• 8:03Speaker 00

  So when you get to Love Island, you're like, give me the bikini. I, I deserve to show this off.

• 8:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. And the dresses. I'm like, give, any cutout shit, give it to me, give me.

• 8:13Speaker 00

  Kenzie, did you pay for them or did your dad?

• 8:15Speaker 02

  I paid for them. Yeah, my nanny money. Shout out to them and nanny mom. I fucking love her.

• 8:19Speaker 00

  Queen. Okay. A lot of debate online and we're going to settle it here, right here, right now. What was your type before you went on this show?

• 8:31Speaker 02

  Uh, I like dark hair. Normally I like dark eyes, taller than me, a sporty guy. I like a country man, I do. But, you know, I, the convo gotta be there and all that.

• 8:44Speaker 00

  And were you a relationship girl before Love Island?

• 8:47Speaker 02

  Um, I was, but I got my heart broken like three, one big time. Um, and then for two years I was single and I did not talk or text in anyone, like no one.

• 8:58Speaker 00

  Okay. Well, yeah, I remember you were like, I haven't had sex in a year and a half before you entered the villa. Was this by choice? Like, how did you feel about being celibate?

• 9:07Speaker 02

  Um, it was definitely by choice because for, it was four for a while and it was only like my boyfriends, like the guys that I had very seriously talked to. And then for a year, I was like, I, it was three guys, three more guys. And I, it made me just feel like I needed that connection. I need that connection with someone in order to do that.

• 9:27Speaker 00

  You had slept with only four men in your life?

• 9:30Speaker 02

  Yes. And then in a year, I slept with three. Like, and it just made me feel kinda icky. I was just like, I like to be a relationship girl. So I stopped and, because I wasn't talking to anyone. I wasn't gonna do it. And then I'm like, well, I'm going on Love Island. Like, I'll just hopefully find my man there.

• 9:50Speaker 00

  I feel like so many women are going to be watching this, like actually, like we, I fuck with you because you're just so honest. Like, most, I think most women are like scared to even be like, what's your body count? How many people have you slept with? Because there's so many like weird negative connotations. And you're like, oh, so four than three, that, love it. Oh, I love that. Let's first start with the roster thing. You came in, you said, I'm not a roster girl. I can only talk to one guy. Then you end up being one of the only people that had a roster, obviously. Now in hindsight, what are some things that you wish that you had known about managing a roster, Kenzie?

• 10:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have no idea how to manage a roster at all. I think it's pretty obvious and clear. But everyone's surprised that I've never had a roster. It's just like, I was going on the show to find my best connection and that's what I was there for.

• 10:38Speaker 00

  But do you think now that you have a better idea of how to manage a roster, you're like, I'm never doing that again?

• 10:42Speaker 02

  I don't think I ever want to do that again. But like, I don't know. It was fun. It was like the best experience ever. But yeah, like even on Snapchat, like I've never done that. I've, I never could text or talk to any more than one guy. And I never understood how, how other people could do that.

• 10:59Speaker 00

  Kenzie, it's a full-time job.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  It is definitely a full-time job. Like, and how much, how much is a girl allowed to talk about with another guy? I'm like, Can I not talk about my family? The fuck?

• 11:11Speaker 00

  I know, we're gonna get into that because it was interesting seeing like you got backlash for certain things. And that's why I was wondering like, what was your understanding of Love Island etiquette? When you first got in there of like, how you're allowed to move with multiple connections?

• 11:26Speaker 02

  Um, honestly, I didn't know any like Love Island etiquette. I'm just more just like, I'm just gonna be me, have a connection, see if we connect really good. I did wanna be upfront, honest every single time, like, and I tried. The only thing I didn't say was that one kiss with, um, Corbin. And I do regret that because I feel like that really led Caleb on in a sense.

• 11:50Speaker 00

  Also, I don't know if you've seen this online, but so many people are like, the way that Kenzie would have thrived of on Love Island UK this season. Because everyone on this season of Love Island UK is moving like a Kenzie.

• 12:03Speaker 02

  Really?

• 12:03Speaker 00

  Oh, you would have been, you would fit right in, Kenzie. Um, do you think the like closed off somewhat, you know, like playing it safe mindset hindered any of your other castmates experiences? Because obviously you moved a lot different than a lot of other people.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, I moved a lot different than them, but also I feel like the people that came in, they were able to connect with them immediately. It just so happened to be that my person came in later and at Casa. Um, but I don't fault them for it. If you like someone, you like someone, you wanna stay, you wanna stay with them. Um, I just, I, my person just didn't come in till later.

• 12:39Speaker 00

  Okay, let's get into it. We're, we're gonna go through the whole season.

• 12:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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• 16:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:24Speaker 00

  And we saw you obviously get in your head about this. Like, how did that comment so early on affect your confidence?

• 16:31Speaker 02

  Hmm, I don't know if it like affected my confidence, but I would say it hurt because I was like, damn, Charlie's into blondes, the fuck? Like, I thought like Zach would too, but I guess that's just not how it goes.

• 16:45Speaker 00

  I'm not, not okay.

• 16:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was like just telling myself, you know, I love who I am. I'm in love with myself and whatever guy is here, like, he's gonna love that too. But it just wasn't, wasn't gonna be him, and that's okay.

• 16:56Speaker 00

  And prior to the villa, just like in normal life, how would you describe your confidence and your self-esteem?

• 17:02Speaker 02

  Uh, I, I do EFT tapping, like, I'm always like, I'm a goddess. I love myself, like, I pray and like pray that he, God gives me like all that love and support. And I just, that's how I feel about myself now. And it hasn't always been like that. Um, I went through really hard times when I was broken up with and I was so down on myself. But you can pick yourself back up, like with all the positive energy. Like, it's, it's just all, it's all you.

• 17:27Speaker 00

  And I think we saw that truly, like, your confidence, as much as you kept getting kind of like, oh, this isn't working or this isn't working, you kept it moving in a way that was really refreshing to see that you didn't get too down on yourself. One of the main things the internet grabbed on to the first episode was how shocked you were that you were not anyone's type at first.

• 17:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:48Speaker 00

  Did this have you immediately comparing yourself to the other women that you were in the villa with?

• 17:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I feel like naturally it does make you compare yourself. It made me feel like not as beautiful, you know, to a point. Um, it, it did suck because I was thinking that I was gonna have like a Erin and Kayla situation where I just met my person. Um, and seeing that happen right in front of me and then, you know, uh, like Zach bringing, um, Kada back right away. And then they're in the bed next to me and they're like making out and stuff. And then I only just laid on his shoulder, like he didn't even like cuddle or anything. I'm like, um, yeah, it definitely made me feel a certain type of way.

• 18:28Speaker 00

  Eventually, though, you had a slow start, but eventually someone came in who caught your eye. During the office challenge, a new bombshell, Corbin, entered the villa.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:40Speaker 00

  What was your first impression of Corbin?

• 18:42Speaker 02

  I was like, he's not 100% my type, but he's hot.

• 18:45Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 18:45Speaker 02

  We just ended up having a great conversation. Like, he actually, like, it, I was like, wow. I, we had a really good conversation, the chemistry was there. And I'm like, okay, like, if he chose me and he did, like, we pursued each other after that.

• 18:59Speaker 00

  Early on, I remember you told Anaya you were worried Corbin had fuckboy behavior.

• 19:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:05Speaker 00

  But it was like a gut thing.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:07Speaker 00

  What do you think you were picking up on?

• 19:09Speaker 02

  Um, probably like his swag, kind of, and his nonchalantness of just, and then, and then I heard about the kisses and I was like, hmm. I should have taken it more with a grain of salt than I did. But I'm like, hey, wait, this is Love Island. Like shit, I'm like a hang, so like kisses like a handshake for me. So it's like, this is Love Island, babe. Like, and you just got here, so I'm not gonna fault you for that.

• 19:35Speaker 00

  That's fair. Do you think you were shocked by how many people were in shock when you said that you thought that a kiss was like?

• 19:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, okay, clearly I'm not gonna do that outside of here. Like, it's not, it's not like that. But when I'm on a fucking dating show, we kiss in challenges. What's the fucking difference if I'm, if I'm fucking, like, what is it? Like, come on now.

• 19:55Speaker 00

  That's fair. I, I mean, I, I think that's fair.

• 19:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:58Speaker 00

  Outside of the villa, would you say, though, that you're someone who has a good read on guys?

• 20:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I feel like I definitely have a good read. And women's intuition, gut, gut feelings, like, you, you gotta stick to that. If you feel that way, you feel that way for a reason.

• 20:14Speaker 00

  Oh, without a doubt, you have a feeling and you don't know why, but it always usually comes back around to prove you right.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, it does.

• 20:21Speaker 00

  When it came to the next recoupling, Corbin chose you.

• 20:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:25Speaker 00

  How did it feel to finally get into bed with someone that you actually were excited about?

• 20:30Speaker 02

  Um, I was really excited to get into bed that night. Uh, of course, I find him very attractive. Uh, we had great conversations, but I did miss being with him, being in a connection with him. Um, yeah, it felt amazing. I, I felt like a squirrel climbing a tree, you know? He's the tallest, like tallest and he got a lot of muscle. He's great.

• 20:51Speaker 00

  I said, I wrote down the next morning, you said, quote, he turns me on and no guys have really done that. I kind of feel like a new woman this morning. Kenzie, what are some immediate turn-ons and turn-offs for you?

• 21:04Speaker 02

  Hmm. He is just sexy and also like the way he talks, his deep voice. Um, I also like just he would, how he would make me breakfast and it would be like the heart shaped pancakes. And I, I just remember missing those a lot.

• 21:18Speaker 00

  Obviously you can't have someone make you those. I mean, they can make you those in real life, but like in real life, or is it like, is a turn on a deep voice? You didn't think it was chat GPT vibes?

• 21:28Speaker 02

  Hmm. It gave a little chat GPT looky. AI.

• 21:33Speaker 00

  I made the impression of how he says Kenzie.

• 21:35Speaker 02

  Uh, Kenzie. Like it's so deep.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  It's, and he's cool. Like he is really cool. He's a, he's a great person.

• 21:44Speaker 00

  Pretty quickly on, obviously you guys had immediate sexual chemistry.

• 21:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:48Speaker 00

  You were talking about role playing, blindfolding and handcuffing each other. Do you typically feel comfortable sexually right off the bat with people?

• 21:59Speaker 02

  No. Um, the connection that we had, I, I, he, he even said it too. Like our chemistry was crazy. Um, but there was definitely sexual chemistry. We'd never done any of that. I mean, I don't think he'd ever done it. So that's why we were like talking about that. We're like, well, we could do that. And then the bed scene happened where we were both blindfolded and it was, it was hot.

• 22:20Speaker 00

  Have you done all of those things?

• 22:21Speaker 02

  No.

• 22:22Speaker 00

  Okay, hold on. So what would your ideal role play situation be?

• 22:27Speaker 02

  Hmm. Probably being handcuffed and then blindfolded and then like that paint. Oh shit, that turns you on. Any slime? I understand why they do it now. I understand. I'm like, okay.

• 22:39Speaker 00

  You're actually getting, you're getting turned on in challenges.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 22:43Speaker 00

  Oh, that's so interesting.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. And you're like so sober. It's crazy, but like it's so fun. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna be crazy. Turned on as fuck. Like.

• 22:53Speaker 00

  We, and you want to be handcuffed or would you ever handcuff the guy?

• 22:56Speaker 02

  Uh, both. But I would love to be handcuffed. I like to be like, you know, put in my place.

• 23:02Speaker 00

  Okay. These are good things to know, Kenzie. I had a feeling, but I'm just, just checking it out. Okay. Then comes the bed paint challenge, like you're talking about, and in walks a cowboy.

• 23:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:14Speaker 00

  And the whole villa quite literally erupted. It was insane. Every single girl was like, this is Kenzie's type to a T. This is Kenzie's type. How did you feel about all the girls' reaction?

• 23:24Speaker 02

  I mean, I loved it. They're girls, girls. They're supporting me and, um, and I, they always support me. I love them so much, uh, for doing that. They knew I was kind of talking about a cowboy, wanting a cowboy to come in, but also that was right before I had a connection with Corbin. I'm like, can you please bring in like a guy for me? And then I'm like, oh, I'm kind of settled down now. But also seeing Caleb, I was like, I mean, he's fine. He's fine. And then he, the first thing he did was he came up and when he kissed me, he's like, hey, Kenzie. And I was like, stop, I'm dead.

• 23:56Speaker 00

  Okay. Wait, have you dated a cowboy before?

• 23:59Speaker 02

  Hmm. Yeah, kind of. Like if you guys ever heard about Georgia Southern, that was like the guy that I was really in love with and he was kind of like a cowboy. He had boots and stuff like that.

• 24:07Speaker 00

  He had boots?

• 24:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:08Speaker 00

  Did he wear hot?

• 24:08Speaker 02

  Sometimes, yeah.

• 24:10Speaker 00

  Okay. So this is, has this fantasy been like a while for you?

• 24:13Speaker 02

  Yes. I fucking love cowboys. Like cowboy movie, fuck. Like that makes me wet. I'm serious.

• 24:22Speaker 00

  So we were really excited when Caleb came in, but I, again, you were a little torn. Cause you're like, but I do have something now with Corbin.

• 24:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:28Speaker 00

  Something I want your take on that the internet really caught on to was Melanie was screaming the absolute loudest when Caleb came in and she later told sincere, it was because she was excited for you. But then she was also the first person to pull Caleb for a chat.

• 24:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:44Speaker 00

  What do you think was going on there? What were her intentions?

• 24:47Speaker 02

  I think her intentions were good. Um, she was my best friend. She knew I was wanting a, a cowboy to come in. Um, I don't know if, like, I know she did really, really like sincere, but I don't know if she kind of also liked Corbin maybe a little bit and both can be true. Um, so yeah.

• 25:05Speaker 00

  I was gonna say, can you clarify? Because people online thought it was a bit hypocritical when you got upset at Melanie, when she later then went and pulled Corbin.

• 25:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:16Speaker 00

  Can you talk more about that situation from your perspective?

• 25:19Speaker 02

  I would love to talk about that.

• 25:21Speaker 00

  Tell me.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  So, um, when we had that kissing challenge, when she went back and forth to both of them, I had a conversation and I was like, so did you know that you were kissing him? And she said, she had no idea she was kissing Corbin or sincere or who was who. And to me, I told her that was really hard for me to believe because you've been kissing sincere for how long? And, and Corbin's a lot bigger.

• 25:43Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  You know, um, but, uh, we talked about that. And then she told me that she was not into Corbin, that Corbin was her type to a T, but she's very much into sincere. She said, you have nothing to worry about not pursuing him. I'm not gonna talk to him. Like we're good. So then the next day, we're like pooling and, um, you know, like beachin', whatever. And then, uh, she pulls Corbin for a chat to talk to him. And then I didn't get to talk to her until later that night and I pulled her for a chat. And I was like, hey, I'm just confused because 20, not even 24 hours ago, like last night, you told me that you weren't gonna talk to him, that you weren't pursuing him. So I'm

• 26:27Speaker 02

  like, I, there's a disconnect there. I'm confused. And she said, yeah, well, that was yesterday. Like me and sincere are not good anymore. So I am gonna pursue Corbin. And so that's why I was so upset cause I just felt, I felt blindsided and I felt like if she was interested, just say, you know, I am interested in sincere, but also I do still want to kind of chat with Corbin. And I would have been cool with that. It would have been, it would have been different.

• 26:52Speaker 00

  I don't think we saw that initial conversation between you and Melanie of her being like, I'm not interested in Corbin. Like me and sincere are good. So all we saw was.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Me getting upset.

• 27:00Speaker 00

  You getting upset.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  Which makes total sense. Like I understand why everyone's going crazy because it is like double standard kind of thing. Like, but I wouldn't have been upset. But she was my best friend in there.

• 27:11Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 27:11Speaker 02

  So.

• 27:12Speaker 00

  And she had approached you saying, I'm not gonna go for that.

• 27:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 27:14Speaker 00

  And then her and sincere get in a fight and then she's going for Corbin. And I'm sure to you, it kind of felt like, wait, hold on. Now is this just like.

• 27:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:21Speaker 00

  To make sincere jealous or whatever? Cause I actually feel like I have a real connection with this person.

• 27:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I'm like getting finger blasted right before that. So it's like, it's like I was, I was kind of liking him to a point.

• 27:33Speaker 00

  And it's finger blasted the same as french fries.

• 27:35Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  I was, I was, I was having fun. It's french fry.

• 27:42Speaker 00

  I felt like you were having fun every single night, Kenzie.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. I, I mean, I'm there. I'm at Love Island for the summer. What, what are we doing? What's, what's going on?

• 27:53Speaker 00

  Holy shit. Um, it did seem like you and Melanie had a few ups and downs this past season. What were some other moments when you look back that kind of like tested your friendship?

• 28:04Speaker 02

  Um, it was definitely that. And then right after that soul came in and sincere, they had a thing going. Um, and soul was very much like, she just felt isolated in there. I don't want to like speak for her, but she, she was having a hard time. She was crying a lot and I just wanted to be there for her. So I started pulling her for chats and I just said, hey, I want to let you know you have a friend in here and I'm here for you. And I think she's beautiful and amazing person. Um, but also at the same time, you could, there's only so many hours in a day. You can only have so many chats with so many people. And Melanie was pulling Trinity and Anaya more often. So I could only as well talk to so many people as Melanie also. So it just so happened, we didn't have as

• 28:49Speaker 02

  much time together, but of course I wanted to be there for her as a friend. So that's why I was so emotional later when we had that conversation and she was talking about that.

• 28:56Speaker 00

  Right. Did you feel like there was an unsaid dynamic in the villa that if you were friends with soul, you were kind of also then going against Melanie to some degree?

• 29:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, I don't agree with that. I like to, like, I was just trying to be there for someone who needed someone. And I think soul's an amazing person. I think Melanie's an amazing person, but Melanie had a ton of support already in the villa where I just saw soul and I just wanted to comfort her and be there for her.

• 29:25Speaker 00

  Did it feel like soul was being treated fairly in the villa?

• 29:28Speaker 02

  Hmm. I think that it was really hard for her to come in when she did. I mean, she's a bombshell. She really bombed. Um, I, I don't know. I, I did feel for her on a couple of days, but I think she ended up like getting along with people like after that, but it just, I felt for her.

• 29:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. Where do you and Melanie stand now?

• 29:51Speaker 02

  Um, well, right before I left, I don't know if they showed this cause I haven't seen it, but she pulled me for a chat and we talked like, we're really great friends. I love her. Since the day before I walked out, I remember holding her hand right before the door opened and she's like, don't worry, they're just as nervous as you. And like, she was my comfort and she'd had been that comfort. I know we went through our ups and downs, but I love her down and I'll always support her. Like she is the best. She's an amazing person. She's, she deserves only nothing but love. And that's all I have for her. I love her.

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• 33:02Speaker 00

  Okay, back to Caleb.

• 33:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:04Speaker 00

  Um, it seemed like obviously he thought you were his type. He quickly pulled you for a chat. Now we gotta go through this Caleb Corbin dynamic because babe, it was a lot. It was a lot. And this was like, I think what you were getting the most heat for. So I want to get into it.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:18Speaker 00

  What was your first impression of Caleb when you guys? I know you physically connected that first time. I think you had a kiss. Like, was the physical attraction there once you had a kiss?

• 33:27Speaker 02

  Um, the physical attraction was definitely there after we had a kiss. I was very much into him.

• 33:31Speaker 00

  And once you guys had that first kiss, were you still more into Corbin or Caleb?

• 33:37Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, so after that first kiss, I, I still had more of a connection with Corbin on different levels, other than just like attraction and just like one initial, like I, I fall in love by someone speaking to me, like in my ears, I have to have time with you. So on that initial chat with Caleb, he was like, who do you like more, me or Corbin? And I was just like, oh my, oh my God. Um, I have a really great connection with Corbin and I told him I still wanted to pursue that with him and that I was very unsure, but I, I really did like Corbin. And I said, I'm very interested in also getting to know you.

• 34:12Speaker 00

  So this was essentially the first love triangle you experienced, not only in the villa, but in your life. Um, you said, I'm a one person kind of girl. I'm confused as fuck right now. What do you think was the most difficult part of managing these two connections at once?

• 34:29Speaker 02

  Um, probably just like stepping on other people's toes in the villa. There's other girls there that also want to explore them as well. Um, not knowing like what I can and can't say to either of them. It's like, it's kind of weird. I grew up watching The Bachelor, like, like what? He says, I love you to how many three girls and I can't talk about my family? It's kind of wild. Like I'm on a Love Island dating show. Am I supposed to be having conversations with other guys? I don't know. Like it, it's confusing and it's so hard because I'm like, I'll be kissing Caleb. And yeah, it's a great kiss, but I have a great connection with this other guy. And that's why it was so hard for me. I'm like, my mind can't compute. I'm like, uh.

• 35:09Speaker 00

  Well, it is so, I agree with you, Kenzie, because what's so weird is I'm also watching UK right now. And like, everyone's talking about being at home. Like everyone's like, this is what it would be. And this is my mom. And they're saying that to multiple of their connections. So I also feel like a lot of it is dependent on the cast per season. Kind of shapes the etiquette around what's appropriate.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, because like the season right before that was nothing like this season.

• 35:32Speaker 00

  Nothing, nothing. So it is interesting that like you were kind of moving what you thought was right. And then people would be like, what do you mean? You talked about your family and you're like, oh.

• 35:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, everyone was actually like, maybe just don't do that. And I was like, okay. But like, I was just trying to talk about things outside of here that to see if it would work outside of here. Cause it was real for me and that's, that's why I was trying to see what our lives work outside of here.

• 35:56Speaker 00

  I think that makes so much sense also hearing it even more from you now. Cause you're like, if we're gonna actually work, we need to somewhat talk about our circumstances outside of here. We're not going to be in this villa forever.

• 36:07Speaker 02

  Why are we chatting about everyone else's couple in here? How is that going to bring me any closer to you? It's not.

• 36:12Speaker 00

  Okay, the internet then was like, you know what? As America, we're deciding to break Corbin and Kenzie up and we're going to put her in a couple with Caleb. And I think America at first, by the time the voting was happening, really thought like she should try with Caleb. And then I think they were like, fuck our life. Wait, it feels like she actually really likes Corbin. We just did her dirty. And I remember seeing everyone online being like, wait, did we just fully fuck Kenzie over by voting her? Into a different couple. In hindsight, do you think that fucked up your experience a little bit? Because it really put pressure on you to give Caleb an even bigger shot than maybe you were going to intend to?

• 36:51Speaker 02

  I don't think it like fucked me over in a way because I was also interested in Caleb. And I liked that we got that chance to be together and talk and see how it would go. But I was still feeling Corbin a lot and I missed being in a connection with him. And I wasn't understanding why Corbin, like we were very kissy and touchy at the pool and all of this. And then right when he was coupled up with Melanie, he's like, let's not do any of that. And so I was very much confused. And then like the night on the dock, I was like, I want to kiss you. And so it felt so weird. And then Caleb was also like watching me out on the dock, which I was like.

• 37:27Speaker 00

  That was a lot.

• 37:29Speaker 02

  And we didn't even kiss and then like the whole house blew up.

• 37:32Speaker 00

  No, no, we know you didn't kiss.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:35Speaker 00

  But the looking from the kitchen, we're getting there. Um, we, and to clarify, would you have chosen to stay in a couple with Corbin? Had it been your choice for the recoupling?

• 37:44Speaker 02

  Um, I probably would have stayed with Corbin. Yeah.

• 37:47Speaker 00

  Okay, let's talk about the dock moment because you're on the dock. You tell Corbin, I want to kiss you. He's like, oh, like, I don't know if we should be doing that right now because we're both in new couples.

• 37:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, he said he wanted to stay like true to Melanie, which is, which is, it's nice. Like that is, and she's my friend, so I understand. Um, but like, at the same time, how are you supposed to go from kissing, making out, doing things in bed? To all of a sudden, nothing?

• 38:15Speaker 00

  That's what I think was confusing about this year because it was like, so are you closed off? Like, or, or now you're just in a, because again, I'm watching UK, just comparing it. And it's like, the minute they face flip couples, then they're still making out with the other person they're talking to.

• 38:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:30Speaker 00

  It's just having some respect and over communicating with the other person.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  Communicating with them.

• 38:34Speaker 00

  Um, because you guys didn't kiss and you're saying, obviously there was this moment where you're like, what are we doing? Do you think at all that the separation and the forbiddenness in a way made you even more pulled toward?

• 38:46Speaker 02

  I mean, I think that is a hundred percent probably true. Like, you always want what you can't have kind of thing. Um, yeah.

• 38:55Speaker 00

  Caleb was convinced you guys kissed and he started telling everyone that you guys had kissed. Um, and you went and reassured him that literally never happened. You did seem really frustrated and even upset when this accusation kind of started. And you said, it's hard because I feel like I'm supposed to be exploring both connections when I am feeling like I kind of can't. Um, did you feel in any way like this was hindering your experience? And you couldn't be, you almost like didn't want to be honest in a way?

• 39:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, it did make me like, be like, can I even be honest with him? Cause I felt like he would probably take some steps back. And all of our conversations right before the one like that they showed on movie night, that was our best conversation. And that was, that was the deepest we had gotten. And I wish it was like that the whole time. Because when he got back from Costa, he's like, he even told me, we were playing volleyball together. And he's like, all the guys are saying I really changed and came out of my shell. And like, I am who I am, like, and I'm like, I wish it was like that the whole time. Cause it just, it, it wasn't, you know?

• 40:02Speaker 00

  Shortly after this, you end up kissing Corbin and you did feel like you needed to keep a secret. What was your main reasoning behind that?

• 40:11Speaker 02

  I didn't want the whole house to blow up and neither did he. Melanie was sleeping in soul ties.

• 40:19Speaker 02

  And I think that it was because she would hear that we kissed and made her feel weird. So she would sleep in soul ties. She also missed sincere. And then Caleb, it was like, you know, he was watching me already at the dock. He didn't want us to kiss. And I was telling him the whole time that I still wanted to pursue Corbin. So I, I was communicating with him, so I just didn't understand. But I didn't want him to take steps back because I just wanted to move forward. If we kept talking about that, it would just be going in circles, just talking about me and Corbin with him all the time.

• 40:49Speaker 00

  Why do you think Caleb was not exploring any other connections? When you were so clear that you wanted to explore multiple?

• 40:57Speaker 02

  Um, I don't know why he didn't explore other connections. Cause I was telling him, I'm exploring, please explore. I just think that he was coming in for me and that's awesome. I did say, I want a guy that's all about me. So maybe he just thought. That it would have worked.

• 41:17Speaker 00

  Okay, let's clarify that movie night moment you just said. Movie night, we as viewers saw more context that we didn't originally see. The next morning after your secret kiss with Corbin, you had a chat with Caleb where you told him, I just want to be more focused on you and growing our connection and getting deeper because that's the only way we're going to get closer. I think that outside of this, our lives would collide very easily. And then you and Caleb kissed. Talk to me more about the intentions of that conversation, especially after what we saw is that came right after you kissed Corbin and kept that a secret the night before.

• 41:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, um, I did just, I had no idea there would be a recoupling that night. And I did still very much want to pursue Caleb. And I, after we had that conversation, that was at the ending of it. And I'm like, I'm like, wow, I'm actually getting this energy from him that I had not gotten. So I did, I was like, I was like, I'm, I'm feeling him like a lot more than I had been for the past couple of days. And then right after that chat, it was like, it literally was like recoupling. And then it, it was me taking a couple of minutes being like, who do I like more? And it, my heart was still with Corbin. It's just, I wasn't able to tell him that. And even after I, I talked to him after the recoupling and I was like, I want you to know, like, none of that was fake. It was all genuine. I, I do still have feelings for you.

• 42:37Speaker 02

  And he just said, he was like, well, that doesn't matter.

• 42:40Speaker 00

  I guess like, what mistakes do you think you made within that dynamic?

• 42:42Speaker 02

  I think I, I told him that I did just want to like pursue him and talk to him, which I definitely shouldn't have said, like, that was like, that's not fair to him at all. And it made him think that I was going to pick him that night, which I feel awful for because he wrote the sweetest letter to me and it broke my heart. Like to be standing there in front of the mailboxes and see how it went down and just like everything.

• 43:06Speaker 00

  Well, now he's in Vegas, like DJing and like hanging with Tara y'all, like he's fine, he's fine. In that next elimination round where you and Corbin did recouple with the mailbox challenge, Sol and Gabe went home, but Corbin let you know that your name had been considered for elimination. And when you confronted the boys, Casey told you that the reason you were considered is because of you kind of giving similar reasons to Gabe. You seemed upset by that comparison. You said, I haven't been as lustful, like Gabe has been moving. How do you think you and Gabe moved differently in the villa?

• 43:40Speaker 02

  I think Gabe's an awesome person, but he likes to kiss more and, you know, get into it faster. And I do tend to move a little bit slower than him. And I don't feel like any of my connections were lustful. It was based on actual communication and talking, like me and Corbin, I wasn't fully into him until after having a conversation with him. Me and Caleb, it took a minute for me to be like, oh, I actually, I kind of like him. He's cool. So.

• 44:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, that was such a big conversation in the villa this year of like lustfulness. Like what is the definition of lustful in the villa?

• 44:13Speaker 02

  I feel like lustful is just like, you're only attracted to them because of their looks. And you look amazing, you're hot, everyone's hot. Like what, say something about my intelligence, say something about my hobbies, say something about me and who I am, my family.

• 44:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, okay, let's go to Casa Moore.

• 44:32Speaker 02

  Yay.

• 44:34Speaker 00

  This was so big this season. Honestly, every producer, we were like, you need to raise. They did their big one, like you guys thought that you were getting ready for the heart rate challenge. You come down and I actually think it was the worst gift in Love Island history. You guys get a video of the men in Casa Moore, having the heart rate challenge with the Casa Moore girls and you're like, fuck my life.

• 44:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, literally us just going, like our jaws dropped.

• 45:01Speaker 00

  What did you expect to be Corbin's experience when you realized he had left before you saw the live stream?

• 45:07Speaker 02

  Hmm, I thought he definitely wouldn't hold back. I didn't think he would. I think he would have explored, but I thought our connection was really good. So I was, I was feeling good about our connection in a way.

• 45:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:19Speaker 00

  We loved the live stream as viewers. We were like, oh, hold these men accountable. Cause we had had so many moments as viewers being like, none of these women know what these men are actually saying behind closed doors, like put them on blast.

• 45:32Speaker 02

  Please.

• 45:33Speaker 00

  Understandably, you were so angry watching Corbin and Casey basically joke together about him immediately leaving you before he even had a conversation with these women. He saw them and was like, yeah, I'm out. Like I'm completely going back with someone different. Had you ever been publicly disrespected like this?

• 45:52Speaker 02

  No, I've never been publicly disrespected like that. Um, it wasn't just the out of the window thing because apparently he didn't say that was Casey, but, um, yeah, I just don't take disrespect like that. Also my family seeing that. Um, I know what my dad would say. He'd be like, fuck him, like, like my husband would never say that. So I'm not going to waste another minute.

• 46:17Speaker 00

  Um, you kind of didn't waste another minute though, because I was going to say you really handled it with grace, babe. You, um, we watched you just basically drop down into the split. It was Kenzie, it was the clam slam that was heard all the way at Casa Moore, heard around the world. It was like, you just, everyone's like making their grilled cheese and you're like bam, bam, bam, bam.

• 46:37Speaker 02

  Everyone was like, well, I guess we'll eat because there's no men coming in. I'm like, ah, fuck y'all, literally fuck you guys.

• 46:45Speaker 00

  Is that typically how you let out your anger?

• 46:48Speaker 02

  I mean, it did help. It definitely helped and I loved it. Like shit, but I was so pissed, like what else am I going to do? I had been one, I had all day shaking my ass upstairs in our room. My arms were sore the past three days after that. Like I was ready to fucking dance. I'd been ready to dance since before I came on the show. I was like, heart rate challenge, heart rate challenge, put me on. So I was pissed and then thinking that there was still guys to come in and us to dance on, I was like, okay, where are the men? Bring them in. And then that didn't happen. I'm like, ah.

• 47:21Speaker 00

  Kenzie, what the fuck were you doing with your arms? Why are your arms sore?

• 47:26Speaker 02

  Oh, I was on, I was on like a chair, like twerking that Melanie was teaching me how to like ruin my ass. So was Anaya.

• 47:33Speaker 00

  Oh, honestly, I think everyone was upset that we didn't get to like really see you do your big one on that. But, um, I just have to like give you your props for that clam slam. Cause at first I think America was like, what is this girl doing? Why is she always in the splits? And then it just became iconic. And like, I'm assuming you do the splits all the time.

• 47:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I do it all the time, every morning.

• 47:53Speaker 00

  Okay, every morning. Okay, after you get disrespected by Corbin, you, I think America was like, we fucking love this woman because you were like, oh, I'm so done. I'm so done with that man. I don't want to see anything more. I'm completely done. You literally woke up the next morning, you said, I'm going to wear black for his funeral today. I am never talking to him again. Typically, is that how you respond in your life when a man disrespects you?

• 48:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, typically I do, um, act like that. It, it's from my parents and just my self-worth that I get from them. And I just, I don't fuck with it. I don't fuck with that energy. I'm not, I'm not going to shed a single tear and I'm fucking glad I never did over him.

• 48:34Speaker 00

  I feel like so many people caught on to that where they were like, it feels like Kenzie has such a good relationship with her parents that you could just feel your relationship even with your dad, like it's so precious. Like, can you talk a little bit more about what he's instilled in you?

• 48:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, so him and my mom, like they go on dates every single week. He pursues her all the time. And I know my man will do the same thing. And he would, my man will never talk down on me or disrespect me in front of his friends. Don't matter if he's with his boys. That does not fucking matter. And that pisses me off. Like your man can't say whatever he wants, just with, that's so disrespectful. And I'm just not going to take shit like that. No one deserves that. No woman deserves to be treated like that. No one.

• 49:17Speaker 00

  Are you someone, I know that you didn't have your phones in the villa, but like, would you hit him with a block? Would you ghost him? Like what's your?

• 49:24Speaker 02

  Blocked, blocked, straight away blocked. I'm done.

• 49:27Speaker 00

  You're just hitting them with a hard block.

• 49:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, cold turkey, bye.

• 49:30Speaker 00

  Okay, we need to get to Dylan.

• 49:33Speaker 02

  Yes, Dylan.

• 49:34Speaker 00

  So while Corbin's off in Casa Moore doing his thing, you turned your attention to the new boys and you meet Dylan. What was like immediately attracting you to him?

• 49:46Speaker 02

  Um, his looks and then also, I mean, I mean, look at him, he's fucking hot as fuck. He's definitely my type. And then he was the first guy that came up to me and he was like, hey, I'm Dylan. Like I want to talk to you. I can't wait to chat. And I'm like, okay, he's been all about me since day one and put that out there. I even saw that he like drew, when we got to draw the people, he drew me in a split. Like he drew literally me and everyone was just like, you know, you, this is Love Island. You gotta like go on it. He's like, no, I, I like her, like I'm, I'm going for her. And he thought me and Corbin were in a great relationship. So he thought that, because he hadn't seen the live or anything like that. And didn't know how open I was to pursuing.

• 50:27Speaker 00

  Okay, another boy that immediately caught your eye was Gaul.

• 50:30Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 50:31Speaker 00

  How did you feel about exploring him when you also knew Jen was also going to explore him?

• 50:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, so at first I wasn't really interested in Gaul. The first thing he said to me, I was like, I, I definitely was attracted to him. I saw him and I was like, um, hi, I'm 24. My name's Kenzie. And he's, and he was like, oh, I was like, how old are you? He's like, I'm 30, but like basically was saying like 24 was too young. And I'm like, well, I'm one of the oldest in the, in the villa, but okay.

• 50:55Speaker 00

  Good luck, baby.

• 50:57Speaker 02

  So I just turned literally like paid him no more attention the rest of the day. But of course I thought he was attractive. Um, he would be my type out of this as well. Like I think he's, he's fine. Um, and he's a nice guy, but after that, in the, like we would be in the kitchen and he was very much flirty and chatty with me, saying that he wanted to chat. And I was all for it. I was like, I didn't know that there was anything between us, but after talking, I was like, I'm, I'm here on Love Island. I'm going to talk to men.

• 51:28Speaker 00

  Dude, you got yourself in another pickle because basically you eventually had the opportunity to chat with Gaul. The vibe was there, you two kissed pretty soon after you told Dylan this and you admitted this to him. But I do think it's important to clarify, you had told Dylan and basically every single person in the villa that you wanted to explore Gaul and see if anything was there. And there was no dishonesty this time. There was nothing of that sort. And then when you told him, Dylan started to cry. What was your reaction to him getting so upset, even though you had been so honest?

• 52:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, um, I think that me and Dylan just had an amazing day that day and we got really deep in the conversation. So I don't, I don't fault him for, his feelings were so valid. Um, I was wanting to have that conversation with Gaul days before it happened. Um, but we got so close and seeing him emotional like that, I was like, wow, this guy actually cares about me. I was just in a relationship a week before with Corbin where he flipped on a dime. So it didn't, I, I didn't know if this was real for anyone else, like it was for me. And then that helped me let down my guard with him. Cause I was like, damn, he cares about me. Yeah.

• 52:42Speaker 00

  Dude, how did you feel when you saw that all of America thought that he was giving fake tears?

• 52:48Speaker 02

  I know. That actually crushed my heart. It really, really did crush my heart because I don't think anything about him is fake at all. And even since we got off, like the first thing I said to him and was like, do you still like me? And he's like, yeah, of course. Like, I was honestly scared. And then in our hotel room, we've basically been in a hideaway, like every single day. And he is exactly the same as he is off camera. And even his friend Brandon said that, and that helped so much on Family Day when he, I was like, oh, my gosh, like, finally, like, this guy's true. He's real. He's not doing it for the fucking cameras.

• 53:24Speaker 00

  For the cameras.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  He's not, yeah, and he's not even seeing that people were saying he's an actor. Like, what? He's been in one music video? Like, he didn't even say a word. What are you talking about?

• 53:33Speaker 00

  He's been in a music video?

• 53:35Speaker 02

  It's like in a Camaro or some shit. And he's like, they flip in the car and he's like making out with her.

• 53:41Speaker 00

  It's so LA.

• 53:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. I was just like, oh, my God.

• 53:46Speaker 00

  Um, okay, let's go back to movie night quickly. When the video showed the clips between Caleb and Corbin, where you basically told Corbin, when I was kissing him, I was thinking of you. And then we see you say to Caleb, I feel like I have more in common with you than I do with Corbin.

• 53:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:00Speaker 00

  What was going through your head when you had to watch this in front of all of your peers?

• 54:04Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. I was like, fuck.

• 54:09Speaker 02

  No, literally, I was like, this is about to be so fucked. But honestly, seeing it, I was like, okay, that was, that was shitty of me. And I shouldn't have gone about it and said certain words that I did. And I could see more of why Caleb felt so led on. And it did make me feel awful. And I just, I wanted to take that time, like, I, I was processing it. And I'm like, okay, like, that, I'm sorry. I, I didn't want to hurt anyone.

• 54:35Speaker 00

  Well, I think it was refreshing because you took accountability right away. And we watched that movie night. So many people be like, well, but did it up when it came to their issues. You were immediately like, yeah, I fucked up. I was wrong.

• 54:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:45Speaker 00

  But I think something that rubbed people the wrong way was, it felt like Dylan was kind of just like adding on to the fire because he was like, I just felt like I watched the entirety of last night on repeat. What was confusing is from what we understood, the Casa Boys, like, saw a lot of the season prior to them coming in. So he was fully aware of how you had been moving in the dynamic with Caleb and Corbin. What, how did it feel to kind of have your character be questioned by someone you were in a relationship with?

• 55:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it didn't feel good. Um, I had conversations with him and I was like, that hurt that you did jump in on that. But at the same time, it was in front of his face, more like, that was just in front of my face. And I could see how I was doing that. It's different, I feel like, when you're just watching it. And also, I knew he was scared because he doesn't want me to do that to him. And I probably would feel the same way if I was watching it on the other side.

• 55:47Speaker 00

  And he kept harping on it. But I do think now, again, I think we all as viewers have to recognize, there's such heightened emotions in this villa. And there's so much going into it that it's like seeing it in 4K.

• 55:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:58Speaker 00

  It's gonna cause a lot of emotions.

• 56:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:00Speaker 00

  The girls in the villa really let you know they did not approve of how you were moving. Kada went as far to say, it's giving sincere.

• 56:08Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 56:09Speaker 00

  What did it feel like to hear that?

• 56:12Speaker 02

  It definitely hurt. But I, I listened to them, like, I hear them out. And if that's how everyone was seeing it, then I'm gonna take it with a grain of salt. But yeah, it hurt. I was very emotional, crying in the shower a lot, like, just feeling hurt. Jaden was the only one that came up to me and was like, I don't think you did anything wrong, babe. And I, I lost her later during the compatibility challenge, and that sucked. And then, like, Jen, she tells me straight up how she feels, but she always supported me. And, yeah, it was hard.

• 56:47Speaker 00

  Aside from the one secret kiss you had, you were so upfront with Caleb. Sincere was repeatedly lying to Melanie and essentially everyone in the villa and Casa Moore through his entire experience. What are some examples that you can give that highlights how different your situation was to Sincere's?

• 57:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, I feel like he did lie a good bit to not only Melanie, but like, some other girls and his guy friends. Hence why Corbin picked him in like, the challenge too. Um, I never called them any names, uh, like fake promises. Um, and I tried to be as open as possible to who I was talking to. And I know he said something about, like, when he was in Casa, about like, it was a test for him a little bit, which I don't ever feel like any of my connections were at me testing another connection with someone else. It was just me seeing if we could connect on that level. There was never any who's better kind of thing, who, you know?

• 57:50Speaker 00

  Quickly after movie night, we saw a lot of the women in the villa support Sincere, even being like, I'm team sincere, like, fully supporting him even after watching him on 4K. Why do you think the girls were holding you to a different standard?

• 58:04Speaker 02

  I don't know why the girls were holding me to a different standard than Sincere. It, especially like, after getting out, it does feel like sexist almost because I'm like, I'm not a male. And it's like, I can't move like them, maybe. And I don't know. Yeah, it felt, it was hard. And I didn't feel that, um, supported at that time, except from like, Jaden.

• 58:29Speaker 00

  Did you feel like, because I, I can imagine, Kenzie, like, you're blindsided, again, not only because they're treating you that way, they're supporting Sincere, who is doing 10 times worse than you. Like, do you feel like that impacted your friendships for a little bit?

• 58:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, probably a little bit, just when you don't feel as supported as you want to feel from your friends. But we did get over it and we talked about it. But, yeah, definitely hurt.

• 58:58Speaker 00

  Is there any moment that comes to mind from your Love Island experience where you felt like you were being judged for exploring completely unfairly considered what the men were doing in the villa? Like, another double standard that you can think of?

• 59:13Speaker 02

  Hmm, probably just like my love triangles and just getting shit on and me feeling like I couldn't talk, I wasn't allowed to talk to two people at once. Talk, like, it just made no sense in my mind. I'm like, where are we right now? I'm, I'm very confused and feeling like I was just getting shit on over and over for exploring when no one was closed off. So it's like.

• 59:38Speaker 00

  That's, I think a lot of the viewers felt that way and they were frustrated in some capacity with the season. I think people loved when Soul was like, this is Couples Island. You guys are not even two weeks in.

• 59:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:48Speaker 00

  Let's open it up a little bit. So I could see where that would be frustrating.

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• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:02:42Speaker 00

  Okay. Who do you think was the strongest couple?

• 1:02:45Speaker 02

  Hmm, Kada and Zach.

• 1:02:47Speaker 00

  Who do you think played it the most safe?

• 1:02:51Speaker 02

  Shit.

• 1:02:54Speaker 02

  Maybe like Melanie and sincere.

• 1:02:56Speaker 00

  Okay, what's your number one flirting tip?

• 1:02:59Speaker 02

  Um, winking, looking, doing the triangle. When you look at one eye, you look at the other eye and you look at their lips.

• 1:03:06Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, you just did it to me. I was like, where are we going?

• 1:03:09Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:03:10Speaker 00

  Oh, I'm in it. Oh, I like that.

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:03:12Speaker 00

  When you got your phone back, who was the most surprising person in your DMs?

• 1:03:17Speaker 02

  Shit, I haven't even looked at my DMs.

• 1:03:19Speaker 00

  That so shows you have a man.

• 1:03:21Speaker 02

  Maybe like you.

• 1:03:23Speaker 00

  I'm dead. You've been so holed up with your man, you're not even worried.

• 1:03:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm not.

• 1:03:26Speaker 00

  Who do you wish you would have kissed and you didn't?

• 1:03:29Speaker 02

  Hmm, I kissed everyone.

• 1:03:31Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:03:33Speaker 02

  I kissed everyone.

• 1:03:36Speaker 00

  Have you seen that Corbin doubled down calling you sincere in his post villa interview?

• 1:03:41Speaker 02

  Yes, I saw that.

• 1:03:42Speaker 00

  How do you feel about that?

• 1:03:43Speaker 02

  Um, no comment.

• 1:03:46Speaker 00

  Okay, no comment.

• 1:03:47Speaker 02

  Fuck that. Fuck that.

• 1:03:50Speaker 00

  Okay, um, where do you and Zach stand today? Are you guys friends? People had like a misunderstanding about that.

• 1:03:56Speaker 02

  Me and Zach are besties. He's funny as fuck and I love Kada. I would always third wheel with them there. I don't think that they showed that as much. But yes, after we had that little tiff, I didn't talk to him for a week, week straight. And I wouldn't let him look in my eyes. That is true. I was like, the only thing this man commented on me was my fucking eyes. So you're not gonna be able to see it. Like, literally, I'm not looking at you. But after that, we did talk. I told him that, you know, I was sorry, but I'm not gonna waste my time on a guy that's not interested in me. I'm gonna explore my options. Hence why I was talking to Sean more, like.

• 1:04:31Speaker 00

  I'm obsessed with you walking around with your eyes closed. You're like, don't look at me.

• 1:04:35Speaker 02

  I know. He's like, can I play for a chat? I'm like, no.

• 1:04:38Speaker 00

  Um, I don't know if you've obviously seen the internet, but there is a lot of conversation around Melanie and sincere. Do you think Melanie should stay with sincere?

• 1:04:47Speaker 02

  Um, I think Melanie deserves the world, uh, but I love sincere. I do. He's an amazing person, but I think Melanie deserves.

• 1:04:57Speaker 00

  Is he an amazing person?

• 1:04:58Speaker 02

  He's a good, he's a good person. I just don't know if they're great together.

• 1:05:03Speaker 00

  Okay, and maybe they played it a little safe.

• 1:05:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, cuz she was always just for him, kind of. Like, she always just wanted him. But I don't know if sincere played it safe, but.

• 1:05:13Speaker 00

  He did not play it safe. He did not play it safe. Where were you when TT and Trinity were fighting at the fire pit?

• 1:05:20Speaker 02

  Uh, TT and Trinity?

• 1:05:21Speaker 00

  You and Melanie, it looked like, did you leave the fire pit? Are you allowed to say?

• 1:05:26Speaker 02

  Um, I'm not sure, honestly. I might have been taking a shit or something.

• 1:05:31Speaker 00

  There's no way you left. They were mid-fight and it seemed like you weren't at the fire pit. Were you at the fire pit?

• 1:05:37Speaker 02

  No, I was at the fire pit then. I was.

• 1:05:39Speaker 00

  Oh, you were?

• 1:05:39Speaker 02

  Yes, I was.

• 1:05:40Speaker 00

  When TT entered and was like.

• 1:05:41Speaker 02

  She was like, I'm TT. Yeah, I was at the fire pit. I was like this. I was like, holy crap. And she was like, oh, you're a little girl. I was like, oh, fuck.

• 1:05:49Speaker 00

  Okay, you were there. And you were there the whole time?

• 1:05:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:52Speaker 00

  Okay, good to know. We needed to hear that.

• 1:05:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I never left.

• 1:05:54Speaker 00

  No, you weren't taking a shit.

• 1:05:55Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:05:57Speaker 00

  How did you feel about Trinity calling Zach and Kada's exclusivity a situationship?

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  Okay, um, I don't agree with that. I really don't. Um, exclusive, being exclusive, that's what my parents said. They would, like, I just see it as my parents were dating for seven months. The first thing my dad said to my mom is, can we please be exclusive? Cuz they were dating other people. And that's a step in the right direction to me. And he, Zach, he just wants to ask her outside of here and have it just be them. And I think that's like romantic as fuck. He wants to do something more romantic with her. So I don't agree with that comment. Um.

• 1:06:35Speaker 00

  Great.

• 1:06:35Speaker 02

  Like, a situationship is when you're like with a fucking group of friends and you're just fucking. Like, and then it's like, oh, you're hot, you're hot, I'm hot.

• 1:06:43Speaker 00

  What is this lingering beef with Parmita?

• 1:06:45Speaker 02

  I don't know. I don't know. I feel like I've apologized a ton of times, so I don't know what more I can do. And then when I said, like, I love you to her, it's cuz she was leaving and I just wanted to give her compassion and love at that time. Um, and then using it against me, I don't know. I don't know. I was, I was actually shocked at, like, After Sun.

• 1:07:06Speaker 00

  Well, your response was so fucking perfect. Were you surprised when on After Sun TT said that she wouldn't be friends with certain people after the villa?

• 1:07:14Speaker 02

  Uh, I was a little surprised, but I do get where she's coming from cuz after we did the music or like the little karaoke dance, she, um, she felt like a lot of people were shocked by her being chosen, her and KC, which I think we were just kind of more shocked that Kada and Zach weren't in the top four than that. But I think that, of course, her feelings are valid. There's reasons she feels the way she feels, so.

• 1:07:39Speaker 00

  Um, okay, you guys, after post villa, went to Hibachi the other night and a video started circulating from Soul's livestream. Someone's talking about Melanie in the background. We hear something along the lines of it was always the Melanie show. Some, anyone who was close to her got to stay. Like, it sounded like light shit talking. There was speculation at first it was you, then there was speculation it was Jaden. Tell us, what happened, Kenzie?

• 1:08:05Speaker 02

  Me and Jaden were definitely like talking about them, but not in an awful way. Like, I fucking love Melanie and I'm gonna stand by her. Um, she definitely, I feel like we were just saying she did, did get a lot more screen time than a lot of other people who were in couples that like wanted to talk, but there was never any shit talking about her. I would never talk shit about my girl. And Jaden likes her as well, so.

• 1:08:28Speaker 00

  Do you think that people are gonna think that you got, like, that's like, oh, you guys are jealous cuz she just got screen time?

• 1:08:33Speaker 02

  Hmm, I mean, they can think that. That's fine, but that's, that's what we were like talking about, so.

• 1:08:41Speaker 00

  So you were just talking about how she got more attention, basically?

• 1:08:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:44Speaker 00

  Have you seen all of the brands being like, we will literally give you a year's supply of this or we'll give you a car or we'll give you free whatever if you leave sincere?

• 1:08:53Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:08:53Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, you need to open your phone.

• 1:08:55Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 1:08:56Speaker 00

  No, it's a lot, Kenzie. It's a lot.

• 1:08:58Speaker 02

  Insane.

• 1:08:59Speaker 00

  Um, okay, like, what is the biggest difference between day one Kenzie and Kenzie sitting here now?

• 1:09:05Speaker 02

  Uh, I've changed so much. It's crazy. Um, I still feel like I'm the same exact person, but I've learned how to communicate better. I think going in, I wasn't able to do that as well and getting everyone's feedback. My girls, the guys, I feel like I've changed and I've grown. This experience that, like, social experiment or whatever the fuck you wanna call it, has changed me. I'm just, I mean, even, even all the hate or whatever, it's just like, I didn't know I would act so positively about it. Of just being like, I'm just gonna, it, it, I don't, I don't feel anything from it. I'm like, God knows who I am. My family knows who I am. My family's proud of me and that's all that matters. And my friends, like, I have them. Like, I, I've gained so much from this. Even just talking to you, girl, I fucking love you.

• 1:09:50Speaker 00

  No, I love you and I really hope that the energy stays the same because I know that post villa, there can be so much drama that comes even more drama somehow. Um, but it seems like you're really happy. You and Dylan announced that you are exclusive. Obviously, I know that you live on the East Coast-ish. He lives on the West Coast. Like, are we doing long distance? What are we doing?

• 1:10:12Speaker 02

  Um, I don't wanna do long distance. I wanna move here. I was thinking even before the show, I wanted to be a nurse in Miami or California. And everyone was always like, well, good luck with that, girl. How are you gonna, how are you gonna do that?

• 1:10:24Speaker 00

  You'll be just fine.

• 1:10:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, but now I definitely want to live over here.

• 1:10:29Speaker 00

  Wait, so are you going to continue to pursue nursing or do you think you're gonna lean into like LA, Hollywood?

• 1:10:36Speaker 02

  I think I'm gonna do a little bit of both. Um, I wanna continue doing classes online and keep my education going. I also need to take the NCLEX, like, soon. I don't know when I'm gonna have time to study right now. I'm like, I feel like my eyes haven't shut since I've left the fucking villa, but that is definitely on my bucket list. I wanna do that and then continue nursing classes.

• 1:10:54Speaker 00

  Have you seen everyone saying that you need to go on Dancing with the Stars?

• 1:10:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:59Speaker 00

  Are you, do you like watch Dancing with the Stars?

• 1:11:01Speaker 02

  I've watched Dancing with the Stars ever since I was like two. My parents would watch me like sit on the, my feet wouldn't even reach the end of the couch and I would just sit watching the whole thing for hours. I wouldn't move. Like, that's what also got me into dancing later. I, I loved to dance, loved watching them. Fucking loved them.

• 1:11:17Speaker 00

  So you would say that's one of like your top priorities if you could like do something crazy outside of the villa, Dancing with the Stars?

• 1:11:22Speaker 02

  Top priority would be Dancing with the Stars, 100%.

• 1:11:25Speaker 00

  I really like that for you.

• 1:11:26Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:11:27Speaker 00

  Um, what do you hope, thinking about it, obviously, you just got out of the villa, but where do you hope you are a year from now when the next season of Love Island starts?

• 1:11:36Speaker 02

  Man, I have no idea. Maybe I just wanna be in like Hawaii and have some, like, have some smoothie acai bowl with Dylan. And then hopefully, you know, be boyfriend, girlfriend. I wanna maybe one day have surf babies. I wanna learn how to surf, too. I told him, I was talking to him last night. I was like, I wanna have five. He's like, five? I'm like, yes. And then we're gonna adopt, too, so.

• 1:11:57Speaker 00

  Wait, wait, wait, we're adopting?

• 1:11:59Speaker 02

  But not just yet, but like, I do.

• 1:12:01Speaker 00

  Okay, wait. And have you guys like hooked up on the beach yet?

• 1:12:06Speaker 02

  That is coming soon and I've been waiting to do that. We're about to do that.

• 1:12:10Speaker 00

  Can you make sure you bring a blanket because as great as it sounds, Kenzie, the sand in the, no, I'm not, I'm not trying to say that your whole fantasy isn't going to be great.

• 1:12:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:21Speaker 00

  But just like bring some situation. So it's not just sand in the vagina.

• 1:12:26Speaker 02

  Thank you. I will take that.

• 1:12:27Speaker 00

  I got you. I got you.

• 1:12:27Speaker 02

  Have you ever had sex in the sea?

• 1:12:29Speaker 00

  In the sea?

• 1:12:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:31Speaker 00

  No. No, I haven't had sex in the sea. Is that something you're now adding to the bucket list?

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  I was also asking him, like, should we do it there too? But like, we'll see.

• 1:12:41Speaker 00

  This man is like, I love my life so fucking much. Dude, I'm dying. Is there anything left that you feel like maybe was misinterpreted from your time in the villages? From little things that you're seeing that you're like, oh, I really want to clarify this because I don't think it's an indication of who I am.

• 1:12:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. I think there's only like so much that they can show because there's 24, you know, 24 hours of the day. You're showing one hour of how many people. It looks at the beginning like I'm like this blonde bimbo, sex addict where I'm like, that's not me. They, they didn't get to see all of me. And I'm just hoping that people can see who I am now because that, I, I definitely do make jokes like that and it's fun. And I'm, I'm witty and weird like that. I'll, I'll say that, but that's not all of me.

• 1:13:27Speaker 00

  Right. It's like, it's a TV show. There's so many different cast members. So you're only getting so much time to actually put together your personality. What did your dad and mom think about how you were portrayed?

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  My dad was like, damn, like, that's not, that's not all of her at all. They were thinking that they're just not showing my whole me and who I am. And I think that's what was amazing about Family Day is that people could see where I came from and how much I love them.

• 1:13:54Speaker 00

  No, I'm so happy for you, Kenzie. I will just say like, I hope the best for you. I think now, having met a lot of people, obviously, when I interview them from Love Island, there's so much attention that comes with all of this. And I wish you the best in navigating it. I can imagine it's overwhelming going from a summer with no phone to now the world is watching you. And I am sending you all the good vibes.

• 1:14:18Speaker 02

  Thank you, Alex.

• 1:14:19Speaker 00

  Truly, like seriously, you deserve the best and I'm so happy we got to meet.

• 1:14:22Speaker 02

  I'm so happy we got to meet. You have no fucking idea. I'm still fangirling over here. I feel like I'm in a damn dream.

• 1:14:28Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  Like, like, pinch me. Alex Cooper's talking to me and she's pregnant.

• 1:14:35Speaker 02

  Like, I'm in a dream, bro.

• 1:14:39Speaker 02

  I'm gonna watch your dick sucking video right after this.

• 1:14:44Speaker 00

  I'm actually dying. Kenzie, thank you so much for coming on Call Her Daddy.

• 1:14:48Speaker 02

  Yes. Thank you so much for having me. I love you.

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