Andy Cohen: The King of Bravo

Join Alex in New York City for an interview with Andy Cohen! Andy talks all things Bravo - from the Housewives, to prepping for reunions, to how he went from desk assistant to the king of the network. He also opens up about finding his confidence, his iconic friendships, and the current state of his dating life. Enjoy!

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Alex Cooper?

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• 1:30Alex Cooper?

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• 2:13Alex Cooper?

  What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding Father Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.

• 2:22Alex Cooper?

  Are you ready to fucking go?

• 2:23Speaker 01

  I'm ready to fucking go.

• 2:24Alex Cooper?

  Are you cozy?

• 2:25Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, I'm cozy. I'm cozy. These chairs are super cozy.

• 2:29Alex Cooper?

  I literally had them shipped to New York because it was the only thing that I could have here for Call Her Daddy. And I figured we'd have the fucking chairs.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 2:37Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 2:37Speaker 01

  Okay, is my mic okay?

• 2:38Alex Cooper?

  You look gorgeous.

• 2:39Speaker 01

  Okay, can I ask you a question?

• 2:40Alex Cooper?

  Oh, Andy, we're already starting. Okay, fine.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  And then I'm gonna.

• 2:43Alex Cooper?

  Then you're gonna shut the fuck up.

• 2:44Speaker 01

  I'm gonna let you top me.

• 2:45Alex Cooper?

  Okay, okay.

• 2:46Speaker 01

  Okay, but Call Her Daddy, here's the thing.

• 2:50Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 2:51Speaker 01

  Gay guys during sex sometimes like to call the other guy daddy.

• 2:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  And I'm wondering, do straight guys ever call girls mommy during sex? Or is that creepy? Because it could be argued that it's creepy to say daddy during sex with a guy, but like.

• 3:12Alex Cooper?

  This is a good way to start this episode.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  Okay, good.

• 3:14Alex Cooper?

  So my thought is, no, that's fucking creepy.

• 3:18Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 3:18Alex Cooper?

  I also think it's different because daddy is a connotation of like, it can be man or woman. That's like, you're a daddy, you're a baller, you're a hustler, like you make money, like you're rich, you're powerful. Where there is, like mommy doesn't have that yet. Maybe we can shift it today.

• 3:33Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 3:33Alex Cooper?

  Um, so I think it's less sexual.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 3:36Alex Cooper?

  If a man called me mommy in the bedroom.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  It would be, it would be two episodes of the pod.

• 3:41Alex Cooper?

  Without a doubt, it would be divorce or a breakup wherever I was at in my life. I'd be fucking done.

• 3:47Speaker 01

  Okay, do you call guys daddy during sex ever? I know you're now locked down.

• 3:52Alex Cooper?

  I have.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 3:53Alex Cooper?

  I have. It's not my thing. I definitely think once I started Call Her Daddy, I think it, men were expecting that like, do I have to call? And I was like, no, you don't have to actually call me daddy in the bedroom, but you should treat me like a daddy.

• 4:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:06Alex Cooper?

  Like you still should be treating me like I'm not less than, I'm fucking equal, if not better than you bitch.

• 4:11Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 4:12Alex Cooper?

  And so I think it just changed the vibe, but I wasn't expecting a man to call me daddy.

• 4:17Speaker 01

  But do men call girls daddy in the bed?

• 4:20Alex Cooper?

  Um, well, I have been called it.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  Wow, that's interesting.

• 4:24Alex Cooper?

  But I don't know if it's.

• 4:24Speaker 01

  While you're like pegging?

• 4:26Alex Cooper?

  It was more while like. They were, yeah, well, they were fucking me, which I guess is kind of like a power play, right? No, you're like, I am a-

• 4:35Speaker 01

  It's fascinating.

• 4:36Alex Cooper?

  And you know what I will say? And now I can say it because I've had the show long enough. I would like someone to call me daddy, just not in the bedroom. Like, I don't, I love when I'm on the streets. I love when I'm in a meeting and someone calls me daddy. I'm like, love you. But if your fucking pants are down and your dick is out, I don't want it. Matt has never called me that, and I love that for me.

• 4:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:56Alex Cooper?

  Probably that's why I married him.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 4:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  Okay, I just had to, sorry.

• 4:59Alex Cooper?

  No, this is-

• 5:00Speaker 01

  I now relinquish-

• 5:01Alex Cooper?

  Andy Cohen, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

• 5:03Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 5:04Alex Cooper?

  Do you like being in the interviewee chair?

• 5:09Speaker 01

  Um, I'm good. It depends who's-

• 5:12Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 5:13Speaker 01

  Doing the interview. Uh, I think that talk show hosts make great guests because we don't like silence and we like to keep talking and we like to keep the-

• 5:24Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  Ball in the air, but I do have a tendency to kind of try to turn it around.

• 5:29Alex Cooper?

  I get it.

• 5:30Speaker 01

  And I interviewed Howard Stern a couple of weeks ago and I could tell from the very beginning, I was like, oh, he is gonna try to keep, it was like, so it felt very, I felt like I kept having to kind of interrupt him and stuff-

• 5:45Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  Because I was trying to get control, but no, I don't mind it. I, I enjoy it when, like, I'm excited to do this.

• 5:52Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 5:52Speaker 01

  This is like a special occasion. When I go on Stern, I'm excited to do it. If, so-

• 5:58Alex Cooper?

  I get what you're saying. It's like, if you're fucking with someone that's like, we're kind of at the same level, we both do a similar job, so like, we both know how this goes, but if you're actually getting fucking interviewed for like, a magazine and you're on camera, I'm like, oh my god. I don't even want to talk about myself half the time anymore.

• 6:13Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:13Alex Cooper?

  I just want to get the tea on other people.

• 6:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 6:15Alex Cooper?

  Um, the hair.

• 6:17Speaker 01

  My hair.

• 6:17Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 6:18Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 6:18Alex Cooper?

  Talk to me, how did you decide to grow it out? I love it.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  Thanks.

• 6:21Alex Cooper?

  Have you been getting rave reviews?

• 6:23Speaker 01

  You know what? It's been pretty positive feedback, thanks for asking.

• 6:26Alex Cooper?

  It's really good.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, thanks.

• 6:28Alex Cooper?

  Are you gonna keep it?

• 6:29Speaker 01

  You know, I think I am. I, I, uh, have a full head of hair.

• 6:33Alex Cooper?

  Uh- Which is not fake.

• 6:35Speaker 01

  That's been established. It's not faked. I have no pieces in my hair. Uh, and basically, I usually grow it out every summer because I'm, I get into a beach vibe every summer and I grow it out and I'm taping Watch What Happens Live last. This year, I also, this summer, lost some weight. And I think that when your face is thinner, you can carry off- Longer hair, better. And so I was like, oh, wait, this actually now looks better because my face is a little thinner. So I think there's something happening in tandem.

• 7:11Alex Cooper?

  Oh, that's so interesting. And when you went on this, is it like a health journey? Or you're just like, I need to lose weight?

• 7:17Speaker 01

  Both.

• 7:18Alex Cooper?

  Are you like running? Are we working out?

• 7:19Speaker 01

  We're doing everything.

• 7:20Alex Cooper?

  Do you feel better?

• 7:21Speaker 01

  I feel great. Yes.

• 7:23Alex Cooper?

  I've seen some people being like, he seems like in a good mood on the show recently, which I didn't know if it was just because it was also like you were just coming off of vacation from summer.

• 7:31Speaker 01

  I am in a major natural high, even though I love edibles and whatever. But I'm feeling, I just moved into like my dream apartment. I have two kids. My show got picked up for two years. Everything is so good, knock on wood, that I'm just, and everything, and I feel good about myself. And it really does, at the beginning, in May, I couldn't button my suits. I was kind of at an all time high. And I was like, fuck, I didn't feel good about myself. And I'm someone who usually feels pretty damn good about myself.

• 8:08Alex Cooper?

  Wait, what was your vice for food? What were you eating?

• 8:11Speaker 01

  I was eating everything and just drinking a lot. And I was just snacking a lot. And I have kids and I'm making them. My dad's like, my dad, my, my son is like, yeah, I don't want any more mac and cheese. And I'm like, well, I'll finish it. And like waffles and let's all get ice cream and burgers. And so it's like, I was like a Hoover. I was Hoovering food. It's so bad. No self-control. And then I watched What Happens Live, oh, Andy, this chocolate chip cookie company sent you this huge thing. And then I have two tequilas on the show. And I'm like, where's that cookie? So like, I was a psycho. I was just a psycho.

• 8:49Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my God. Okay. Well, I think that you looked great then. You look great now. But I'm happy that you feel good.

• 8:53Speaker 01

  I feel great.

• 8:54Alex Cooper?

  Um, okay. So you don't have clippens in your hair. I was thinking though, are you a high maintenance or low maintenance person?

• 9:01Speaker 01

  The lowest.

• 9:02Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 9:02Speaker 01

  Well, in terms of what?

• 9:03Alex Cooper?

  I don't know. Just like your life. Like, what's the most high maintenance thing about you?

• 9:06Speaker 01

  Well, I'm pretty picky in terms of travel and hotels.

• 9:11Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, that's good.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  And things like that. I'm a man of taste. Okay?

• 9:14Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 9:14Speaker 01

  Daddy?

• 9:15Alex Cooper?

  Yes, you are.

• 9:16Speaker 01

  And so I'm, I'm very picky about things like that. I'm picky in terms of how I like my show produced or profession. I'm professionally picky. If I go into a reunion, I, I'm picky about how the day is gonna go.

• 9:32Alex Cooper?

  Oh, we are gonna get to the reunion stuff because holy fucking shit, but we're gonna get there. We're gonna ease in. We're gonna ease in.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  It's a journey. Let's ease in. Take care of me. Make love to me slowly.

• 9:42Alex Cooper?

  Why don't you make love to the daddy game right now and tell them what your tagline is? Let's start like Real Housewives, we've always gotta do it. You do yours. Look at the camera. Tell the girls.

• 9:52Speaker 01

  I'm a father of two, but a daddy to many.

• 9:56Alex Cooper?

  Oh my. Now, did you come up with that on your own? Did someone come up with it for you?

• 10:00Speaker 01

  No, I think I came up with that.

• 10:01Alex Cooper?

  And even if you didn't, just go with it. Just fucking lie. Um, in what ways are you a daddy?

• 10:06Speaker 01

  I take care of people. I am very decisive. I am a little bossy. Uh, I am a top. I am, um, yeah, I'm, I'm super, I'm pretty opinionated, pretty, I, I like to be in control. I think daddies are in control.

• 10:27Alex Cooper?

  So you're, you're dominating it all. Um, okay. You've done your radio show at Sirius XM for what? Almost 10 years?

• 10:33Speaker 01

  I've, I've had my radio channel for 10 years. I have two channels on Sirius, but it is the 10th anniversary of Radio Andy.

• 10:41Alex Cooper?

  Congratulations.

• 10:42Speaker 01

  Thanks.

• 10:43Alex Cooper?

  It's pretty fucking incredible.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  Thanks. I'm excited about it.

• 10:45Alex Cooper?

  Okay, um, I have heard that you've blacklisted celebrities from coming on Watch What Happens Live. What does it take for a guest to actually piss you off? And is that true?

• 10:55Speaker 01

  Wow. You know what? There's a shortlist.

• 10:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 10:58Speaker 01

  Okay?

• 10:58Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  Uh, and it either, there have been people who've been not nice to my staff. That will get you on the list.

• 11:06Alex Cooper?

  Yep.

• 11:06Speaker 01

  I mean, unless you're a huge star and then it's like, okay, whatever. That's kind of, you know.

• 11:10Alex Cooper?

  You're like, treat them like shit.

• 11:11Speaker 01

  Oh, she's a diva and that's so fierce. Um, she was a cunt.

• 11:17Alex Cooper?

  You're like, come back soon, babe. Love you.

• 11:19Speaker 01

  And then I'm like, sorry to my staff member. Like, you know what? I mean, we all have to deal with it. Uh, no, but, uh, so I mean, no, I think that would, that would get you on there. I think.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  You know, I think people who just come on, there are people who just have had so many stipulations about the interview and I'm like, you know what? Let's not do this. Like, it's good. We're good. Cause also the expectation with me is that I'm gonna go there, much like you. And so, I, it's like, I, I'm not doing this.

• 11:55Alex Cooper?

  Right. I'm not trying to make you uncomfortable, but you gotta play the game.

• 11:57Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 11:58Alex Cooper?

  Okay, wait, could you name one person?

• 12:01Speaker 01

  Probably not.

• 12:03Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Um, okay, we're gonna play one of your games. Marry, shag, kill.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 12:08Alex Cooper?

  Howard Stern.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 12:09Alex Cooper?

  Tom Sandoval. Craig Conover.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  Oh, I would, oh, interesting. Okay. Well, that is a little bit of an HR issue because Craig is still on Bravo. So, I, I think I'm gonna make it easy. I'm gonna marry Howard, you know, I mean, listen. Uh, I'm gonna shag Sandoval because I do think he is very, he's, he's like one of the prettiest men that I've, he's a very

• 12:40Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 12:40Speaker 01

  Pretty looking man.

• 12:41Alex Cooper?

  Huh.

• 12:41Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 12:42Alex Cooper?

  I've never met him.

• 12:43Speaker 01

  Uh, and Craig, I'm going to have to kill only because it's an HR issue and I just want him, I don't want him to feel uncomfortable if I was like, I would shag Craig.

• 12:54Alex Cooper?

  True. So, we're kind of reading between the lines that maybe if he's off of Bravo soon, you would slot him.

• 12:59Speaker 01

  Maybe he'd be in play a little bit. I love Craig.

• 13:01Alex Cooper?

  Okay, that's a good answer.

• 13:18Alex Cooper?

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• 16:02Alex Cooper?

  Okay, now we're gonna play a Call or Daddy game.

• 16:04Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 16:04Alex Cooper?

  It's called Confess or Text. That's why I had you bring your phone out.

• 16:07Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 16:07Alex Cooper?

  Here's how it works. I'm gonna ask you a juicy question.

• 16:09Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 16:10Alex Cooper?

  You can answer the question, then we move on to the next. If you don't wanna answer the question,

• 16:14Speaker 01

  Oh god.

• 16:14Alex Cooper?

  you then have to send a text to a person that is in that bowl and the text is written. Um, three of the four people in that bowl I've actually interviewed and they're your friends, so that will be fun. Are you ready?

• 16:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:27Alex Cooper?

  Okay, number one. How much money did you make last year?

• 16:31Speaker 01

  God. Oh my god, I have to text someone. Oh my god, really?

• 16:36Alex Cooper?

  I thought you weren't gonna answer that.

• 16:37Speaker 01

  Are you fucking kidding me? There's no way I'm answering that.

• 16:42Alex Cooper?

  Why not? Because it's-

• 16:44Speaker 01

  Because I feel like it's douchey and I feel like frankly, I'm in a position in my life where I-I'm making money that is totally, there's an incredible wage inequity-

• 16:58Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 16:58Speaker 01

  with people that I work with and also people who do jobs that are way more important than mine, like special ed teachers or home hospice care. I mean, so-

• 17:10Alex Cooper?

  You're self-aware.

• 17:11Speaker 01

  It is not fair.

• 17:12Alex Cooper?

  No one needs to hear.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  It's ridiculous.

• 17:14Alex Cooper?

  Love. Text. Who's it to?

• 17:16Speaker 01

  Lisa Vanderpump.

• 17:18Alex Cooper?

  What does it say?

• 17:19Speaker 01

  Uh, "We're gonna shake up the Beverly Hills cast. Who do you think I should cut next season? What's it gonna take to get you back on Housewives?" Okay.

• 17:26Alex Cooper?

  You either text one of those. Which one do you wanna do?

• 17:28Speaker 01

  I think I'll text her...

• 17:32Speaker 01

  Um, I think I'll text her. Well, she's gonna say Kyle.

• 17:35Alex Cooper?

  Stop.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  "Shaking up BH cast. Who should we... Who should we part, I'm saying excellent, with?"

• 17:49Alex Cooper?

  Look at the smirk on your fucking face.

• 17:51Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 17:53Alex Cooper?

  You're like, "You little shit."

• 17:54Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 17:55Alex Cooper?

  Doesn't matter how much money you make. I think that's easy. That's easy, that's easy. Who, so you think she's gonna say Kyle?

• 18:01Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 18:01Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Um, okay, next. What public relationship-

• 18:04Speaker 01

  If it's, and she, you know, she's so cheeky. She'll probably say, "Goodbye, Kyle."

• 18:09Alex Cooper?

  Um, okay, what public relationship do you think is purely PR?

• 18:14Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. Okay.

• 18:15Alex Cooper?

  Or has been PR?

• 18:18Speaker 01

  Um, I suspected that Amaya Papaya and her guy, I was like, I don't know.

• 18:28Alex Cooper?

  What, because you got the vibes from the reunion?

• 18:29Speaker 01

  No, even before the reunion, I was like, I, I went into that feeling a little like, is this, are they on or off?

• 18:38Alex Cooper?

  And did you think it was both of them playing in, or do you think it was Brian using Amaya? Because that's, I think, a huge conspiracy.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  I didn't have an opinion about who was working the other.

• 18:46Alex Cooper?

  You just thought it was fake?

• 18:46Speaker 01

  I just thought, I don't know if I would say it was fake, but I was wondering if it either had legs or it was still going. Yes.

• 18:54Alex Cooper?

  You may have been right, because they're done.

• 18:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay, what really went down between Brandy Glenville and Caroline Manzo?

• 19:02Speaker 01

  You know what? If it were up to me, you would be seeing the entire thing. I would, I would like nothing more than for everyone to see that.

• 19:13Alex Cooper?

  Wouldn't it just legal?

• 19:15Speaker 01

  It's not my, you know what? Some things happen at Bravo that go, or on Bravo, or on the shows where people are like, why did you do this? Why did you do that? Or why didn't you keep this person or whatever? And I will say, there are situations where it's in the network's hands.

• 19:36Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  And not me. I'm a free agent and I am a executive producer of all of the Housewives shows, but certainly not the last word. I'm a loud voice in the room, but not the only voice.

• 19:48Alex Cooper?

  Okay, good to know. Um, what work have you had done?

• 19:52Speaker 01

  I've had no work done. I have had, I lost 25 pounds this year. I started just, I think, this year to get a teeny bit of Botox in my forehead. I've had it done twice. It's, I'm still.

• 20:09Alex Cooper?

  You've got movement.

• 20:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's a teeny bit. I am thinking of having a smidge more. I don't want to look crazy.

• 20:17Alex Cooper?

  You look crazy.

• 20:17Speaker 01

  But that is it. I've had nothing done. Not a thing.

• 20:22Alex Cooper?

  You're so fucking real for that. I love that.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  Yeah. I also feel like if I do have something done, I'm gonna have to immediately talk about it. Because I ask every housewife, what have you had done? And I feel like it would be so hypocritical. This summer, I microdosed a GLP-1 and I immediately talked about it when I came back from break after Labor Day. Because I was like, I will be the hypocrite of the universe for not saying this because of every question I've asked. I will be such an asshole. So I just knew that I had to do it.

• 20:55Alex Cooper?

  What is a GLP-1?

• 20:57Speaker 01

  It's like a Mounjaro, Wegovy, whatever. Yeah.

• 21:00Alex Cooper?

  No, I saw a clip this morning of you talking to, I think it was Larsa, and you were like, she was like, I had my boobs done. I had this done. And you're like, your butt? She was like, um, my boobs. You're like, and your butt? You had your butt done. I was like, honestly, Andy? Love. Fucking love it. Um, okay, which housewife's firing caused the most behind the scenes chaos?

• 21:18Speaker 01

  Huh. Behind the scenes chaos? I would say, look, I would say when we totally revamped Rony. And I would also say when we let go of, at the end of season four, Rony, when we let go of Jill, Alex, Kelly, Cindy Barshop. I think that was kind of a big thing. But I have to say, I mean, the chaos behind the scenes, it wasn't, you know, it was just wow, we're doing something very bold.

• 21:52Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Um, okay. Have you ever slept with a member of the Bravo universe?

• 21:56Speaker 01

  No.

• 21:57Alex Cooper?

  Never.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  Never. Never.

• 22:00Alex Cooper?

  And that's just been an intentional or it hasn't presented itself?

• 22:03Speaker 01

  I think that even I understand the rules of the game there, as far as that goes.

• 22:10Alex Cooper?

  Fair.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  There have been a couple that I would, that, that in my mind, I've thought like, well, nah, that would be interesting. Uh, but yeah, I think that would probably, especially at this point, be unwise. Don't you?

• 22:27Alex Cooper?

  I completely agree. You should keep where you're at and don't fuck it up.

• 22:30Speaker 01

  All good.

• 22:31Alex Cooper?

  Um, do you think Wendy from Potomac faked her home invasion?

• 22:34Speaker 01

  You know what? I love Wendy from Potomac and I-

• 22:39Speaker 01

  I am really, very strongly hoping that this doesn't pan out to be anything. I think she's been a great role model and she's really led with her education and her family values and so, you know, I don't know anything about the case, but except that I was caught totally off guard by that.

• 23:06Alex Cooper?

  Dude. Okay, text two more people because you answered all the fucking questions.

• 23:10Speaker 01

  Well then, uh, why do I have to?

• 23:12Alex Cooper?

  No, come on. Pick one, pick one. Yeah, take a look, take a look. I know, holy shit, I need to ask you harder questions.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  Anderson, I've gotten myself in a bad financial situation. This is awkward. Can you help me out? He would be like, you're high. What if instead of shots this year, New Year's Eve, we do shrooms? I think the ratings would be crazy. You don't think I've suggested that already? Okay.

• 23:31Alex Cooper?

  Fuck.

• 23:32Speaker 01

  John Mayer, I'm going on Caller Daddy with Alex. Any advice? We've already had that conversation.

• 23:37Alex Cooper?

  What did he say?

• 23:38Speaker 01

  We FaceTimed yesterday.

• 23:38Alex Cooper?

  What did he say?

• 23:39Speaker 01

  He's like, you're gonna be great. He goes, um, he was like, deliver.

• 23:44Alex Cooper?

  Deliver.

• 23:45Speaker 01

  He was like, you know, you know what you're doing.

• 23:46Alex Cooper?

  Fair. Love you, John.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  Um, I think I'm ready for my music debut. Will you help me? He'd be like, absolutely, baby.

• 23:53Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  Um, SJ, just realized I never asked. You're leaving shoes in your will for Lucy, right? She'd be like, there will be something special.

• 24:02Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to buy Carrie's iconic pink dress from you, how much would it cost? She would be like, who's?

• 24:08Alex Cooper?

  Fuck off. Okay, good. So I got the right one with Lisa.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:12Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Um, when I was prepping for this interview, I realized we have something in common, which is we both went to Boston University.

• 24:19Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 24:19Alex Cooper?

  And so did Howard.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 24:20Alex Cooper?

  It's like a breeding ground for Sirius XM people. Look at us.

• 24:23Speaker 01

  Serious.

• 24:24Alex Cooper?

  Um, like, how would you describe yourself as a freshman at that point in your life?

• 24:28Speaker 01

  I was in the closet. Hard to believe. Uh, I was like, I was a hippie. I was a deadhead. I still am a deadhead, but I was like a straight-ish version. So I was a little more like, hey, you know, I was like, I talked different. There's video of me at the time. I'm like, putting it on. I'm like, yeah. Uh, and...

• 24:54Alex Cooper?

  But you knew you were gay at that point.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  Oh, did I? Part of the reason I went to BU, frankly, was because not only they had a great college of communication, but they, is that where you went?

• 25:05Alex Cooper?

  Yep.

• 25:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. They, um...

• 25:08Speaker 01

  They, it was a city school with no campus and I didn't want to get sucked into an environment where I would be found out. And I wanted to be able to disappear in a world and I also was super scared of the fraternal system, which I now am understanding is where all of the gay sex happens. So I'm like, what the hell? I should have gone to like Indiana or whatever. And these idiot confused straight guys would be blowing me every night and I actually would be, you know, so that was dumb because all my friends are like, oh, I was, I mean, Sigma Chi at Cornell, not to blow anyone up, but like the stories I have heard, like there are so many gay friends that I have. And I'm like, wait, you were

• 25:53Speaker 01

  on the swim team where and what happened? So

• 25:57Alex Cooper?

  Holy fuck. But I get it. Cause it's, it feels like it would be like a homophobic situation. Meanwhile, they're like fucking doing you in the bathroom and then they're going to reunite with their girlfriend.

• 26:07Speaker 01

  They're like creeping into your, they're all creepers at night drunk. And then they're like, what? This didn't happen.

• 26:14Alex Cooper?

  Wait, and where did you grow up?

• 26:15Speaker 01

  St. Louis.

• 26:16Alex Cooper?

  Okay. And, and

• 26:18Speaker 01

  Where'd you grow up?

• 26:18Alex Cooper?

  Pennsylvania.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 26:19Alex Cooper?

  So I was excited about BU2, but did you, was your family supportive?

• 26:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. They were great.

• 26:25Alex Cooper?

  You were just socially nervous to come out?

• 26:28Speaker 01

  Well, look, it was a different time.

• 26:29Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  And everybody was dying of AIDS. I came out in 1988. I mean, this was a totally different time. There were not many gay people on TV at the time. Will and Grace wasn't on. Um, so it was the real world was starting at that time. And I think the real world started in like 90 and that was like the first gay guy, you know, my age was on TV. So it was a very different time.

• 26:55Alex Cooper?

  Totally.

• 26:55Speaker 01

  And it was scary. It was, it was a way scarier. I, even as liberal as my parents were, we got the New York Times delivered to our doorstep when I was growing up. But uh, I didn't have a sense that me being gay was gonna be that amazing news for anyone. And also it, the idea of Having a family, if you were coming out of the closet was not, I remember the conversation I had with my mom. And one of the first things she said was, I probably would have hated your wife anyway, which is a great fucking line. And she probably would have, by the way, it would have been a nightmare for me.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  So, but I, I said to her, she was like, she said, during that time that I came out with her, she, to her. She said, I'm, I'm really mourning the loss of the life that I wanted for you. And I said, well, what was that life? And she was like, well, like you having a family or you being a dad? And I was like, well, I could still be a dad. And she, and I didn't believe it when I said it and she didn't believe what I was selling because it really was not. How was I gonna be a dad?

• 28:01Alex Cooper?

  And now look at you.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  That would never happen.

• 28:04Alex Cooper?

  And now two children. No, but that, did she text back?

• 28:06Speaker 01

  No, Anderson did.

• 28:07Alex Cooper?

  Oh, you didn't even text him?

• 28:11Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. It's good news for him.

• 28:13Alex Cooper?

  Oh, that's good, Anderson. I love that. Um, no, I, I can, I cannot imagine what it would have been like back then. And I also though get what your headspace was of like, if I go to a city, I can kind of go all around and BU is like that. Like you can go to the West End, you can go to the South East, like you can go anywhere and kind of disappear. Which is not normal for college experiences.

• 28:36Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 28:37Alex Cooper?

  During this time though, weren't you really kind of clear career wise? Like you were in journalism.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:42Alex Cooper?

  Did you know what you wanted to do?

• 28:43Speaker 01

  I wanted to be, my total dream was to be on, be myself on television. But there were not many places where you could do that. Again, like maybe being a VJ, which I auditioned for to be an MTV VJ. I was, I think.

• 28:59Alex Cooper?

  You would have been good at that.

• 29:01Speaker 01

  I, I, I did not have my shit together. I didn't have my look together.

• 29:05Alex Cooper?

  What did you look like?

• 29:06Speaker 01

  So much better now than I did as a kid. I just was like, I had this kind of Jew fro and it was just bad. It was bad, bad fashion bad. And so, uh, I wanted to do that.

• 29:21Speaker 01

  And then my last internship was at CBS News and my kind of mentor there was like, you know, your eyes are so crossed. You'll never be on TV. And I was like, oh my God. Okay. And then I went behind the camera. And so I kind of gave up my dream of being on TV. I thought maybe I could be a reporter somewhere, but I didn't want to go to a small market and work my way up. I wanted to go straight to NYC, man, which is what I did. And I just started working behind the scenes.

• 29:49Alex Cooper?

  Wait, someone saying that to you is kind of fucking shitty of saying.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  You know what? By the way, I came up at a time where it was totally legal to say shitty things to everybody to their face. And it was like, another day at work. So, I mean, I will say it toughened us all up. It was another, it was another universe of time. I've had pencils thrown at me in meetings. I mean, like, I've had people say so many tears, so much stuff, but like, you know, I feel tougher as a result of it.

• 30:18Alex Cooper?

  I was gonna ask you, like, early days of your career, obviously, you have to start somewhere. Like, what was the most humbling bitch work that you had to do?

• 30:25Speaker 01

  Oh, I mean, I was working on the morning show at CBS, ripping scripts at three in the morning. I mean, I was, I was, but I was like, whoa, I made it. I thought, I was like, this is so cool. Because my check came from CBS.

• 30:42Alex Cooper?

  That is fucking cool.

• 30:43Speaker 01

  And I worked at the CBS Broadcast Center. And I was like, I was 23 or 22. I was, I was the youngest, I kept being the youngest. I was the youngest, like, associate producer. I was the youngest producer. And so I was like a success story at that time. But I was doing all sorts of bitch work.

• 31:02Alex Cooper?

  So, but you moved to New York City after college, which is amazing. And when you're living this life of CBS, are you partying? Are you exploring your sexuality?

• 31:12Speaker 01

  No. Oh, I was fucking every, oh, it was awesome. I got no sleep ever. I worked, and I was telling you, there was no grinder. There was no, um, so if you wanted to meet people, you would go out. And there were so many more. Gay bars in New York City and there were gay bars in every neighborhood. It was like random neighborhoods in the East 30s. There were five gay. I mean, it was crazy. So you'd be home and then at 11 at night, you'd be like, yeah, screw this. I'm gonna go to, you know, I'm gonna go to the works. There was a bar called The Works on Columbus Avenue and 81st Street. It was so great. And all these video bars and they just showed

• 31:54Speaker 01

  videos and you would meet, you would go alone and you wouldn't meet people and you would run into people that you knew from the neighborhood and whatever. And it was just a different universe. And I think that people are so fucked by social media and everything. And it was, it was so cool. I met so many people and I'm not saying I slept with so many people. I'm not saying I didn't. But, um, but it was awesome. And I just feel like when you move to New York, you choose life and you are choosing to live. And that goes today as it went yesterday. But I was like, I was truly living my dream then. And I was like,

• 32:35Speaker 01

  this is the only place I want to be. And I don't care if I get three hours of sleep for the whole time that I live here. Cause this is so amazing. And I did.

• 32:45Alex Cooper?

  I relate a lot to that. When I graduated from BU, I went right to New York City. I had like no fucking job. I moved in with a boyfriend that I hated. And I was like, let's fucking go.

• 32:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:54Alex Cooper?

  And I was out every fucking night. I was at the clubs.

• 32:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 32:57Alex Cooper?

  I was sucking dick and I was having a great fucking time. And I was like, let's go.

• 33:01Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 33:01Alex Cooper?

  And you lean in and you have fun. Cause you know, it's not forever, forever that you can like be in that moment. Okay. Wait.

• 33:07Speaker 01

  But also I was like, I will show up at 5am to work. Great.

• 33:11Alex Cooper?

  Perfect.

• 33:12Speaker 01

  And I'll be excited about it.

• 33:13Alex Cooper?

  So when do you get on camera?

• 33:16Speaker 01

  Oh, I didn't get on camera for many years later. I got on camera when I, I, um, in the year 2000, Barry Diller offered me a job running programming at this startup cable channel. And I knew Barry socially, still know Vanderpump.

• 33:33Alex Cooper?

  Turn your fucking phone off. We're done.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  So I'll check it at the end.

• 33:36Alex Cooper?

  Okay, yeah, yeah.

• 33:37Speaker 01

  Um, Barry offered me a job. I left CBS News. It was after 10 years.

• 33:41Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 33:41Speaker 01

  I was running programming at this teeny cable channel called Trio that nobody ever saw or heard of, but I learned the ropes of kind of cable programming from this team that bear from Barry Diller and this team he created, which is amazing.

• 33:56Alex Cooper?

  That's amazing.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  Highly recommend his, his book, which came out uh this year.

• 34:01Alex Cooper?

  It's incredible.

• 34:02Speaker 01

  It's amazing. So worked there. The channel got, the plug was pulled. And Barry, this company merged with NBC Universal, which owned Bravo. I was being offered the job of head of current programming on Bravo.

• 34:20Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  But the Viacom was starting a gay channel called Logo. And I was like, wait, I'm the gayest guy in TV. I should be running this channel called Logo. So I went and interviewed for that job, which I didn't get. And I was like, are you fucking kidding me? You're not giving me this job? I couldn't believe it. So I went and worked for Bravo. Not getting that job saved my life. I wouldn't be calling you daddy if I got that job.

• 34:50Alex Cooper?

  Dude.

• 34:50Speaker 01

  So like honestly, I would, I wouldn't be, you know, so anyway. A few years into it now, we've launched Project Runway and Top Chef and Workout and Flipping Out. And here come the Housewives. And uh I would say. I started, I started emailing my bosses. Dishy behind the scenes stuff from the set of a show that I was on. And they were, and my boss, Lawrence Zelaznik, said, wow, you're a really good writer. You should be the first network executive to have a blog on Bravo TV on the website. So I started blogging as a network executive every day. And I started also talking about what I did the night before.

• 35:35Speaker 01

  And I went to Saint Tropez last week and all this stuff. And then as a result of the blog, I started getting interviewed by CNN and stuff like talking head stuff. We need a TV executive to talk about Sex and the City ending, or this happening, or that happening. And so I started doing that. And my boss was like, and I was like, and she knew that I wanted to be on TV.

• 35:57Alex Cooper?

  Got it.

• 35:57Speaker 01

  That was my goal.

• 35:58Alex Cooper?

  Mm hmm.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  She said, what if we turn your blog into like a, a show on BravoTV.com and you can?

• 36:06Speaker 01

  After show after Top Chef and that's how Watch What Happened started and that's how the reunion started all because of this show online and my boss believed in me and gave me the chance.

• 36:22Alex Cooper?

  That is an incredible story also for anyone listening because I feel like I have a lot of people at that point where they're maybe at the precipice of feeling like they're, they thought they were gonna get something in their career and they didn't and you are literally breathing proof to be like if you got denied from a job, it could be actually the best fucking thing that's ever happened to you because look at you.

• 36:42Speaker 01

  Huge life lesson for me.

• 36:43Alex Cooper?

  You wouldn't be probably exactly where, I'm sure you would have made it in a different capacity.

• 36:47Speaker 01

  Different, but I don't know that I would have made it on air because it's highly unconventional that someone would believe in you behind the scenes to the point. The other two things I will say as life lessons were that even though I had to pivot from being on the air, I was so excited to be a producer and I was very grateful for all these opportunities that that was presenting me and I felt like wow, this is awesome. So I still was happy to be working in television. The second thing is when I was getting these opportunities in front of the camera, I was not so full of myself to believe. I wasn't getting high on my own fumes. So I wasn't saying to Bravo, well now you need to pay

• 37:31Speaker 01

  me like a shit ton of money because I'm on the air and I'm a star.

• 37:34Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  I waited until I knew that I was worth something to them and I knew that I had to be even better at my day job in charge of programming because this on-air stuff was the chance they were giving me and it was not the thing. What I was hired for was to be in charge of programming and I was like now is not the time to keep your eye, take your eye off this wheel because they could take this away at any minute.

• 38:02Alex Cooper?

  Right. It's like really making sure you're good at your fucking day job so that if your boss does give you like, okay, you can do the side project essentially. Don't make that your whole fucking MO because you need to still have your core, core, core and you did that. So when did you though get over this guy tells you, you know, oh, your eyes or whatever, you're not going to make it on TV. How did you find the confidence in front of camera?

• 38:24Speaker 01

  Well, I've never been short of confidence.

• 38:27Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 38:27Speaker 01

  So I knew I could do it. And when my boss had confidence in me to do it, and also I was doing these interviews and I was like, you know, they're like, okay, he can talk and be on TV. And also being a producer, I was producing myself. I understand how to be on TV because I'm a good producer.

• 38:45Alex Cooper?

  That's a great point. That makes you, you have a different leg up because a lot of talent comes in and they're like, where do I look? And oh, that's a camera. And they don't even know what the fuck a camera is.

• 38:53Speaker 01

  That's why the first night I went live on Watch What Happens Live, I wasn't nervous because I understand TV time and I understand how much I can fit in three minutes. And when my EP in my ear is saying, you know, you have a minute left. I know what I can do with that minute and I know how I want to end the act and I know what I want to tease to. And I'm producing myself. If I was not a TV producer, I would not be as successful as I am, I think.

• 39:17Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 39:18Speaker 01

  It's interesting to note that when I did go on camera with this after show, all the comments were, oh my God, that guy has such crossed eyes. So it did come into play and I had to get over it. And my mom was like, you don't have crossed eyes. I'm like, apparently I really do. So I would joke about it on the air or whatever. But then when Watch What Happens Live started, I did have a couple of years of imposter syndrome where I was like, who do you think you are? You're not a late night comic. You're not a stand up. You don't deserve this. I did have for the first times really feelings and I had to overcome that. And also people online were saying that I gave myself my own talk show,

• 40:01Speaker 01

  which wasn't possible. Everyone has a boss. I worked for a big company. So I wasn't able to kind of circumvent an entire universe and give myself a show. Like that's.

• 40:13Alex Cooper?

  But it makes sense. So Andy, because I think you are essentially talking about infiltrating a space that didn't exist. Like you're saying, like, I couldn't, I didn't relate to anyone that was on air because I, yes, I wasn't a comedian, or I wasn't an Oprah host, or whatever it be. So you're kind of coming into this lane that you're forging for yourself. And then when people are talking shit on you, that imposter syndrome is natural because you have no one to compare yourself to. But like, no, I'm doing it kind of like this person. Meanwhile, it's the most brilliant thing to try to create your own path, but it's not fucking easy. And you kind of have to force people and train them to be like, I'm just gonna stay consistent. And being consistent, eventually people are like, yeah, we kind of like this guy. Who gives a fuck about how he looks? Yeah. Okay, love. We

• 40:57Alex Cooper?

  have to go back. So all this is starting. First season of Real Housewives. Can you describe that era? And can you kind of tell the story to anyone that doesn't know of? Like, how did this franchise come to be?

• 41:08Speaker 01

  Okay, I will give it to you in a nutshell. That great guy named Scott Dunlop, lives in Orange County, I believe lived in Codo de Casa, and lived near Vicky and the gang. Brought us a tape of the women. And it was kind of a more of a curb your enthusiasm style thing, but they weren't actors. So it was kind of confusing. At the same time, we saw something in these women. I mean, it was interesting. I mean, Vicky had a grotto in her backyard, but she was an insurance agent. But she talked about, they are all talking about their breast implants. And I don't want to be a creepy guy to talk about how big their boobs were, but they were talking about how big their boobs were, and their

• 41:52Speaker 01

  boobs were big. So, but they were moms, and their kids were very attractive. And they spoke to their kids in a way that we hadn't seen before. And Desperate Housewives was the number one show on TV. So we were like, what if we do this, and we call it Real Housewives? Now, I'm a huge soap opera fan. In my mind, the greatest thing about this was they lived in the same community. Major, All My Children, Day One, me, Pine Valley, they all go to the same restaurants, they go to the same club, whatever. So.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  In my mind, that would be the greatest thing. There were, it was a team of people. Sherry Levine, Frances Berrick, Lauren Zelaznik, Amy Entrecosto-Davis, this whole great group at Bravo. We looked at this and made these rules of the show. The rules of the show. We would only hear from the women. The men were in the background. Um, we would, uh, you know, we would put a banner in front of everyone's scene, giving one of the women ownership of whatever the scene was. Now, these are still the rules of the show. When a scene starts on Potomac, it says Giselle in the bottom and you see Giselle. I mean,

• 43:08Speaker 01

  this is the format that we all kind of figured out. Um, and season one was really a challenge to produce. We all, I remember the meeting in my boss's office because we weren't, the edit was troubled. We weren't, we didn't have the footage we thought we had. I remember the meeting where we brought to my boss, it's gonna cost us 400 and I think $50,000. We're gonna lose if we flush the toilet on this show because it wasn't going well. And I, lazy whatever, was like, yeah, I mean, if this goes away, I won't be so upset.

• 43:50Speaker 01

  You know, whatever. Cause I was like, it seemed like it wasn't gonna, she was like, let's do it. Let's stay with it. Okay, we're staying with that. Can you imagine? My whole life has been made on this show. Like, I owe these women everything in this show. Like,

• 44:05Alex Cooper?

  It is so crazy because I, I think in, um, terms almost of my age group watching, it is a different version, but reminds me of when Laguna Beach came on to the scene. And then the OC also was happening. I think the OC came first and then Laguna Beach. And it was like, wait, we're watching the OC, AKA Desperate Housewives. And then it's like, how are we not gonna now get the reality version? Because California and the rich and the famous and the whole thing, it's like voyeurism. People just, when you're, Your kid from fucking Pennsylvania or first St. Louis, right?

• 44:36Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 44:37Alex Cooper?

  I would have died to just have a glimpse into Paris Hilton's life or Lauren Conrad's or you know what I mean, these women. And so the fact that you guys got to capture it, but the mom aspect is something that was so fucking new. And I remember you went on to debate, essentially Gloria Steinem of whether-

• 44:55Speaker 01

  I lost the debate.

• 44:56Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Okay. Well, I think anyone would lose any feminist-

• 45:00Speaker 01

  She was on my show and I stupidly, and we're live, I was like, you say this show is a minstrel show for women and whatever. But by the way, I know more feminists who love this show, Camille Palia being kind of a leading feminist, but I look and Roxane Gay, by the way. But, but also I look at a lot of famous, very strong women-

• 45:25Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 45:26Speaker 01

  Like Julia Roberts, Jennifer Lawrence, Sarah Paulson, you know, just on and on and on, who view this show as a platform for women in their 50s who are, you know, owning their sexuality and making their own decisions and all this stuff. So, yes, but that, that, that debate with Gloria Steinem, maybe not my smartest moment, but you know, I tried.

• 45:50Alex Cooper?

  I definitely-

• 45:51Speaker 01

  And she had never seen the show.

• 45:53Alex Cooper?

  Oh, she hadn't.

• 45:54Speaker 01

  If you look at the show and you look at, um, you know, clips of someone throwing wine or flipping a table, you're gonna think the worst. I mean, I get it.

• 46:02Alex Cooper?

  Absolutely. And I think that's anything because I even do it with my show. It's like, the promos and the trailers, it's meant to have you a little angry, a little concerned, a little, I need to click on this. And then once you settle in, you're like, oh, this shit is actually really lovely and fun. And of course, there's the chaotic moments, but it's not chaotic after chaotic after chaotic.

• 46:20Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 46:20Alex Cooper?

  But yeah, no, um, going up against Gloria Steinem for a feminist battle, sweetie.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  Dope.

• 46:25Alex Cooper?

  Love that for you.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:42Alex Cooper?

  Call Her Daddy is brought to you by Airbnb. Okay, I am well into my third trimester now, so I haven't really been able to travel because I need to stay close to my doctor, but spending all this time at home has made me start thinking about all the places that I want to go. Once the baby is here, I have literally been sitting on my couch with the TV on scrolling through Airbnb and planning trips. I am nowhere ready to take yet, but suddenly my vacation priorities, I will say, are completely different. Like, does the house have enough bedrooms? Is there a big kitchen? Does the furniture look baby safe? Or is every table covered in, you know, sharp corners? And obviously, we need an extra room

• 47:23Alex Cooper?

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• 49:29Speaker 01

  It's really, I can't do it, only because first of all, it's kind of an HR issue and it's an ensemble show. But I will say, if you think about, I will think that for me, I'm a very nostalgic person. So like, the length of time that I've known you always comes into play, you know?

• 49:46Alex Cooper?

  Um, reunions.

• 49:48Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 49:48Alex Cooper?

  Okay, let's talk about it.

• 49:50Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 49:50Alex Cooper?

  First of all, what type of headspace are you getting into days leading up the day of? Talk to me.

• 49:58Speaker 01

  Used to be a really big deal for me.

• 50:01Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 50:01Speaker 01

  Leading up to the reunion, hours long prep calls with the producers, speaking to the women in advance. The morning of, I would take a run. I mean, like, I was

• 50:14Alex Cooper?

  Jazzed up.

• 50:15Speaker 01

  In the thing. I mean, to be honest, what do I do now? I drop my kids off at school. I go, I'm like, what color suit do you want me to wear? What is this set? I bring three ties. I go, I'm like, come on, let's do it. I mean, I am like so ready because also, um, we, you know, look, I have one call with the production team and the network. And I say, and we talk about the seating for the reunion. We, I asked them, where are we shooting? What suit am I wearing? Um, and then we talk about where the women are and

• 50:53Speaker 01

  You know, we, I will have notes on the order of the day.

• 50:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 50:57Speaker 01

  Sometimes I'll say, I don't think it makes sense to do it this way. X and Y is the elephant in the room. Can we please do it at the top of the day? Sometimes we save the biggest mess till the end.

• 51:09Alex Cooper?

  Of course.

• 51:10Speaker 01

  You know, when are the husbands coming out? Why does that make sense? Why is this person coming? You know, so those are all the conversations we have in advance. And then day of, it's game day. I'm ready to play the game. I have done hundreds of reunions at this point.

• 51:25Alex Cooper?

  How crazy is that?

• 51:26Speaker 01

  It's crazy. It's crazy.

• 51:27Alex Cooper?

  Okay, wait, has anyone during a reunion ever really, really like pushed your patience? And you've been like, I'm so fucking over you?

• 51:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:36Alex Cooper?

  Like, give me an example.

• 51:37Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, the last couple of Jersey reunions, I had a really hard time with. And by the way, it is, I don't like screaming at women. It is a bad look, but there are moments, and they left them in the show, where I'm like, shut the fuck up, or whatever, or be quiet. So, yeah. And there, by the way, sometimes the only way that I can get people to be quiet is to literally be like, shut up, like go crazy. And there are sometimes where I'll say, I will say to the producers, can you mark that? You're not using that. Because like, you know, and, you know, there are enough that are in the show,

• 52:20Speaker 01

  but like, some are just, they're not, it's just me talking over a cacophony.

• 52:25Alex Cooper?

  No, it actually looks like they're your children. And you're like, you're actually at a little like school event, and you're trying to keep these kids in fucking line.

• 52:34Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 52:34Alex Cooper?

  I do think people love when you get nasty, though, because it does get you, it takes a second to get you to that level, but when you get to that fucking level.

• 52:42Speaker 01

  Takes more than a second.

• 52:43Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, you go fucking feral. Who do you think is the worst person when it comes to speaking over people at reunions?

• 52:49Speaker 01

  Uh, I think that, um...

• 52:56Speaker 01

  Lisa Barlow, I, I think that there are some people who it's just harder for them and it's no disrespect, it's harder for them to have the intake of what someone's saying and then speak back and then, you know, figure it out. I think Lisa Barlow might be one. I think Teresa historically has, um, that's been a growth area for her.

• 53:19Alex Cooper?

  Love you.

• 53:20Speaker 01

  I think that, I feel like maybe Toya unmarried to medicine could be in there. Love you Toya, no disrespect. Um, I think that Dr. Simone also, now that I'm in the married to medicine universe. Um, who else? I mean, there are some, kind of feel like Jacqueline Larita on Jersey may have been there. Uh, yeah.

• 53:46Alex Cooper?

  That's good.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:47Alex Cooper?

  We need to talk about Love Island reunion.

• 53:49Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:50Alex Cooper?

  Cause you are like, I agree. You've done so many Real Housewives reunions. You're in that Bravo universe and then all of a sudden it's announced that you're doing the Love Island reunion. And just a little, okay, I was gonna, I wanted to hear because for context, I started doing Love Island interviews about two years ago. Pretty new. It was really mostly once US got big. I had done an interview with Olivia Atwood, who was from season three of UK. I was like in it, but you know, US cares more about the US stuff, I guess. So I did Leah and Rob from, I don't even know if you know who those are.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  I don't.

• 54:26Alex Cooper?

  It was the biggest fucking season until this past season. Okay. And I'm telling you, it was more intense, the feedback than when I interviewed the fucking Vice President of the United States.

• 54:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:36Alex Cooper?

  I had to be so on my fucking game. These fans, I wish they took it as seriously as like voting for a president than they do fucking voting for Love Island.

• 54:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:46Alex Cooper?

  So I couldn't help but be like, talk to me about your experience. Cause I love it too.

• 54:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:50Alex Cooper?

  But damn, it's fucking intense.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  No, I think that the fans are super passionate.

• 54:58Speaker 01

  Um, and you know, they reminded, listen, I am used to this because Housewives fans are really passionate.

• 55:08Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  And so, and there have, and like Jersey fans for years, there were, um, Teresa's fanbase are called Tree Huggers.

• 55:17Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 55:18Speaker 01

  And like, there was a, uh, there was a narrative going on around the Tree Huggers that I was super unfair to Teresa and that I hated her. And Teresa and I have always had a really good relationship, but I think that there was a period of time where she was getting confused by what the Tree Huggers were saying online. Because also if you look at certain clips in isolation, you may think, what does this guy think of me or why is he being like this with me on the show or whatever?

• 55:45Alex Cooper?

  Okay, that makes sense.

• 55:45Speaker 01

  So she would come and think, and, and before she went away, she and I had a very serious lunch together where we kind of really, I was like, you know, like, this is kind of a narrative that's happening outside of the show and whatever. We really, and she's like, well, I've left feeling this way or whatever, but we really talked it out and it was great. But, um, so I've been there with passionate fans.

• 56:08Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 56:09Speaker 01

  Um, this one was, I was like, whoa, because I think a lot of the folks who watch Love Island weren't clued in on

• 56:21Alex Cooper?

  You.

• 56:21Speaker 01

  A Andy Cohen reunion, which is, I go there, I don't break a sweat, I'm going to ask you, I'm going to come back at you. And the thing about the Housewives is, I am also one of their bosses in theory. So I do, when I'm wearing my Housewives reunion hat, I am trying to be as the most neutral version of myself while also representing what the fans are saying, because I know what the fans are saying.

• 56:50Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 56:51Speaker 01

  On Vanderpump Rules, or Southern Charm, or whatever, Summer House, I do get in the weeds a little bit with them, a little more, and it's kind of fun for me. It's one of the reasons I love those shows, and why I think people enjoy watching me doing those shows, because, look, I love giving men with, um, men with Peter Pan syndrome shit, who make bad decisions. Like, I love it. It's like a Watch What Happens Live classic. Jack's come on in, let's talk. So with Love Island, it just seemed like the perfect, I was like, oh, this is gonna be so fun, whatever.

• 57:29Speaker 01

  People were upset that I was asking Huda about her dating life outside the show. And I'm like, you were just on a reality show about your dating life. If anything in the universe has ever been more full fair game, it is me asking you who you are dating now, and who you, by the way, have been on red carpets with. So that there should be any backlash or commentary on that. I was like, oh, this is special. This is kooky. And by the way, the people, the Huda fans, and I'm sure they have a Huda hive, or something like that, they were really brutal.

• 58:14Speaker 01

  And what you need to know is, I thought she made the show. Like, she was amazing. She was on your show, like, so I was real, she was my person that I was most excited about talking to, because there was so much to talk to her about. But also, you can't give me the answer of, oh, that was so long ago, and I've changed, when it was three weeks ago. So like, I'm gonna say, I get it that you're a whole different person in four weeks, but like, real talk, like, that was four weeks ago. I am gonna be the guy that says that.

• 58:52Alex Cooper?

  And I think, and I think for Bravo fans, if anything, they're like, oh, he's going light.

• 58:56Speaker 01

  That was the other thing. People were like, y'all don't realize, that was Andy Light.

• 59:02Alex Cooper?

  That was light. Well, because I was gonna ask, did you? Watch any of the season?

• 59:08Speaker 01

  I watched the entirety of the season.

• 59:10Alex Cooper?

  You did?

• 59:11Speaker 01

  You don't think I watched the season? I wouldn't do a reunion show without watching the season.

• 59:14Alex Cooper?

  You watched every fucking episode?

• 59:16Speaker 01

  Daddy?

• 59:16Alex Cooper?

  Oh!

• 59:17Speaker 01

  What the fuck daddy? Watched the whole thing. I'm not gonna host something as important as the Love Island reunion and not watch the season.

• 59:25Alex Cooper?

  I was wondering-

• 59:26Speaker 01

  Why, is there a conjecture that I didn't watch it?

• 59:29Alex Cooper?

  Everyone's like, yeah, he had his fucking assistants watch it and then send him down.

• 59:32Speaker 01

  What? That is insulting. I take my job seriously.

• 59:36Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so what, when did you have time to watch? Like at night, you would just watch it every night?

• 59:39Speaker 01

  I make time daddy.

• 59:41Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I love that. No, no, no, I was very, very-

• 59:44Speaker 01

  It was my job. I took it seriously.

• 59:46Alex Cooper?

  And I love that you took it seriously.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  And I don't love that there's fucking 18 episodes a week.

• 59:52Alex Cooper?

  Dude.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  Cause like, I have two kids, 10 Housewives series. You know, I have, I have a big life, but I watched it all.

• 1:00:00Alex Cooper?

  It consumes your life? Like, I was doing the same.

• 1:00:03Speaker 01

  All good, ready to go for next year. I have the schedule, I know what I'm doing.

• 1:00:07Alex Cooper?

  You think you're gonna do it?

• 1:00:09Speaker 01

  Oh, am I gonna host a reunion?

• 1:00:10Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:10Speaker 01

  Oh, I hope so. They'll have me back.

• 1:00:12Alex Cooper?

  I agree with you. I think I like it, cause it's during summer-ish.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:00:16Alex Cooper?

  So it's during summertime, I plan my stuff, I get ready. I usually wanna have like the top two talked about people on, and I'm ready to fucking go.

• 1:00:23Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:00:23Alex Cooper?

  And Hutto was amazing, Amaya was amazing. Like, they're, they come out and they're ready to go.

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  And they're superstars.

• 1:00:29Alex Cooper?

  They are, and they pop off. Okay, we're gonna do some Bravo fire, rapid fire. Who is the hottest husband on Housewives?

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a good question. You know what? Angel, the new Potomac housewife? Her husband, former NFL player? He's, he's kind of, he's bringing it right now.

• 1:00:47Alex Cooper?

  Love.

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  But, I mean, there have been many.

• 1:00:49Alex Cooper?

  Okay, um, if you could throw a drink in any housewife's husband's face, who would it be?

• 1:00:54Speaker 01

  Oh wow, um, there was, well, first of all, I don't condone violence.

• 1:00:59Alex Cooper?

  Oh yeah, yeah, but like theoretically throw a drink.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  And, um, there was a one-season housewife, um, uh, uh, from Jersey called Amber. It would be her husband, yes.

• 1:01:10Alex Cooper?

  I'm dead. We don't condone it, we're just kidding. It's hypothetical. Um, who is a cast member you wanted so bad but couldn't get to sign on?

• 1:01:18Speaker 01

  Oh, there was a woman in, well, on Rony. You know, people complained about the lack of diversity on Rony for years. And there were a few very high profile women of color in New York that we were, that I was sitting with, I was meeting with, that, that, that didn't happen. So that one was Erica Reid, L.A. Reid's wife. And we were, and L.A. didn't want to be on the show. I mean, it was like a whole thing. And I know Erica and she's amazing.

• 1:01:50Alex Cooper?

  You just couldn't get her.

• 1:01:51Speaker 01

  She was kind of the one that got away for Rony for years.

• 1:01:54Alex Cooper?

  That's a good answer.

• 1:01:54Speaker 01

  There have been a few.

• 1:01:55Alex Cooper?

  Okay, which petty feud lasted way too long, in your opinion?

• 1:01:59Speaker 01

  Well, um, oh gosh. I mean, there have been so many.

• 1:02:04Alex Cooper?

  I know. Name one.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  I mean, Gretchen and Tamara right now are arguing about things that happened 15 years ago, but they haven't had the space to do it.

• 1:02:15Alex Cooper?

  So it's kind of fair.

• 1:02:15Speaker 01

  So like, it is fair.

• 1:02:17Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:02:17Speaker 01

  But I'm, I'm trying to think of one.

• 1:02:19Alex Cooper?

  No, that's a good one.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:19Alex Cooper?

  I think a lot of people are clued into that right now.

• 1:02:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:22Alex Cooper?

  Okay, who's the biggest douchebag in Bravo universe?

• 1:02:25Speaker 01

  Um, me?

• 1:02:29Alex Cooper?

  Perfect. Should, should Karen rejoin Potomac now that she's out of prison?

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  I, I love Karen. I hope so.

• 1:02:37Alex Cooper?

  Okay, would you rather have Karen or Jen Shaw as your prison cellmate?

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  Karen.

• 1:02:42Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:02:44Alex Cooper?

  What's been the most iconic Bravo moment that immediately just pops to your head over the years ago?

• 1:02:49Speaker 01

  We got the yacht. We got the yacht.

• 1:02:50Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:02:51Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:02:51Alex Cooper?

  Um, which housewife has made the best song in their attempted singing career?

• 1:02:55Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. Um, I love Candace Dillard-Bassett's song, "Drive Back."

• 1:03:01Alex Cooper?

  Oh, never heard it.

• 1:03:01Speaker 01

  Absolutely love it.

• 1:03:03Alex Cooper?

  Go stream it, everyone.

• 1:03:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:04Alex Cooper?

  Um, do you think it's better than Sheena Shay's "Good As Gold"?

• 1:03:07Speaker 01

  I love "Good As Gold."

• 1:03:09Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:03:09Speaker 01

  I am a good as gold. Don't come for "Good As Gold."

• 1:03:14Alex Cooper?

  It's good.

• 1:03:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:03:16Alex Cooper?

  It's good. Um, okay, was Katie lying about what Gretchen told her about naked wasted?

• 1:03:22Speaker 01

  Unclear. Lots of stories. Watch the reunion.

• 1:03:25Alex Cooper?

  Okay, who is the best housewife casting addition of the past year?

• 1:03:29Speaker 01

  Stacy on Potomac.

• 1:03:31Alex Cooper?

  Love.

• 1:03:47Alex Cooper?

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• 1:04:53Speaker 01

  Connected, like I stay in touch.

• 1:04:55Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:04:56Speaker 01

  As busy as I am, like I'm always in touch with my friends.

• 1:05:00Alex Cooper?

  Love. What does a typical night out with John Mayer look like?

• 1:05:03Speaker 01

  It is us going to dinner. We always sit on the same side of the booth. We sit next to each other always.

• 1:05:13Alex Cooper?

  Do you hold hands?

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  That is our spot. No, but I do, as the night goes on, find myself sinking into him because he'll have his arm around me. And I do. And as a matter of fact, we were at the Sunset Tower last week.

• 1:05:26Alex Cooper?

  Stop.

• 1:05:26Speaker 01

  And I was getting so physical with him by the end that he was like, Andy. But I was kind of using his body to tell a story about a guy. And, but then I was like,

• 1:05:40Speaker 01

  I was in my cups a little bit. We were in a puddle of laughter. It ends and we, we, we love each other deeply.

• 1:05:51Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 1:05:52Speaker 01

  We actually do.

• 1:05:53Alex Cooper?

  I can tell.

• 1:05:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:54Alex Cooper?

  Do you think you're like secretly in love with him?

• 1:05:57Speaker 01

  I'm not secretly in love with him.

• 1:05:58Alex Cooper?

  You are.

• 1:05:58Speaker 01

  No, we love each other.

• 1:06:00Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:06:00Speaker 01

  If I could find a gay guy that was him, it would be magic. But you know what? I don't, I am so grateful for the love that we have.

• 1:06:11Alex Cooper?

  You're gonna keep it like that?

• 1:06:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:12Alex Cooper?

  Okay, if you could set John up with anyone in Hollywood, who would it be?

• 1:06:17Speaker 01

  It would be someone, it would be someone who has their own thing going, who is their own success, who is just smart and funny and just someone strong and independent.

• 1:06:31Alex Cooper?

  I know, we're gonna have to call him after. I saw some uh, news that he was seen with a certain woman, so I gotta confirm or deny with him. John, we'll call you after this. Um, okay, talk to me about Anderson Cooper.

• 1:06:42Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:06:42Alex Cooper?

  You met him through a failed blind date.

• 1:06:45Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:06:45Alex Cooper?

  Is that correct? Can you tell quickly what happened?

• 1:06:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, our friend, uh, friend of ours, it was the nineties, it was probably like ninety-four. I remember where I was in my then apartment when I spoke to him on the phone.

• 1:07:00Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:07:00Speaker 01

  And we were talking and I made the fatal mistake of couple minutes in, I was like, so Gloria Vanderbilt is your mom? I had no coothe or coolness. And he says that that was the moment where he was like, I'm not gonna go on a date with this queen.

• 1:07:17Alex Cooper?

  I mean, to be fair, that last name is so.

• 1:07:20Speaker 01

  But let it come up in conversation. But we wound up becoming really good frie- we, we wound up, we both were friends with Barry Diller. And we would go on these trips with Barry and Anderson and I, and I was like, I love this guy and I loved from the beginning making him laugh.

• 1:07:41Alex Cooper?

  Did you ever wanna hook up with him?

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:07:43Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:07:44Alex Cooper?

  It was immediately just friends?

• 1:07:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:45Alex Cooper?

  Okay, that's fair.

• 1:07:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:46Alex Cooper?

  That's cute. You guys are, do you think you'll be allowed to drink for?

• 1:07:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, we've drank the last couple of years.

• 1:07:50Alex Cooper?

  Okay, you're fine.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're good.

• 1:07:51Alex Cooper?

  And, and have they told you like keep it at a minimum or they're like let loose?

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  I think we know what we're doing.

• 1:07:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I like when you guys drink more.

• 1:07:58Speaker 01

  Who doesn't?

• 1:07:59Alex Cooper?

  Um, okay, which of your friends would you trust the most to set you up with someone?

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  Oh, uh, I would trust Anderson.

• 1:08:07Alex Cooper?

  Mm hmm. Seems like he's got a good network.

• 1:08:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:10Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:11Alex Cooper?

  Are you on the apps?

• 1:08:12Speaker 01

  I'm on every app.

• 1:08:13Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 1:08:14Speaker 01

  Grinder, Scruff, Raya, Hinge.

• 1:08:17Alex Cooper?

  I've never heard of Scruff.

• 1:08:18Speaker 01

  Uh, Tinder.

• 1:08:19Alex Cooper?

  Ooh.

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:20Alex Cooper?

  Okay, and are you putting pictures of yourself like this on your profile? Or are they selfies? Like, are you doing work pictures? You're trying to avoid everything?

• 1:08:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:28Alex Cooper?

  Like, do you have some of you, like, on set at Watch What Happens, like?

• 1:08:31Speaker 01

  Um, I think on my Raya, there may be one.

• 1:08:35Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, just to confirm, like, it is really me.

• 1:08:36Speaker 01

  Uh, let's be clear.

• 1:08:37Alex Cooper?

  Okay, and do you think on Grinder, they think you're gonna, like, it's not actually you?

• 1:08:41Speaker 01

  I've gotten kicked off Grinder for impos- for, for being.

• 1:08:45Alex Cooper?

  Right, impersonating yourself, but you are actually.

• 1:08:47Speaker 01

  People have reported me.

• 1:08:48Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my God. So, does most of the conversations start where they're like, is this actually you? Send proof?

• 1:08:54Speaker 01

  You know, it's interesting. Some people are too cool for school, and they'll say they, nothing.

• 1:09:01Alex Cooper?

  Uh huh.

• 1:09:02Speaker 01

  Some people are like, you look like him. Some people are, why are you sending his picture? Some people are like, ew. I mean, like, I get it all.

• 1:09:13Alex Cooper?

  It's actually really fucking annoying, though, that you're like, okay, I know, I have to go through this first phase, where they either have to, like, hate me, pretend they hate me, love me, ask for fucking proof, and then we can start actually flirting.

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  Right. A picture that I've sent for years on Grinder is this picture that is, it's black and white, and it's kind of blurry, so there's some doubt. It looks like me, it is me. But some people could say, I feel like it's a perfect first picture.

• 1:09:43Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  Because it introduces the idea of me.

• 1:09:47Alex Cooper?

  It's a little mystique.

• 1:09:47Speaker 01

  Without being like, me with my cards on Watch What Happens. You know what I mean? So, like.

• 1:09:52Alex Cooper?

  I love that for you.

• 1:09:53Speaker 01

  It's, it's, it's a little bit of a chaos agent, this picture.

• 1:09:57Alex Cooper?

  I would love to look at your dating apps. Um, okay, are you going on dates?

• 1:10:01Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:10:02Alex Cooper?

  You are?

• 1:10:02Speaker 01

  I'm, I go on some dates. It's. You know, I have kids, obviously.

• 1:10:08Alex Cooper?

  Right, yep.

• 1:10:08Speaker 01

  And so dating has really changed. And I meet two kinds of people. People that I want to sleep with and people that I want to date. And we all do. So, and people that I want to date and sleep with, obviously.

• 1:10:19Alex Cooper?

  Love. That's the dream. That's, that's the dream.

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  That's the goal. Uh, but so, um, you know, yeah.

• 1:10:28Alex Cooper?

  If you are trying to impress a man, what are you doing on a first date?

• 1:10:32Speaker 01

  I don't try to impress guys.

• 1:10:33Alex Cooper?

  You don't?

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  No. I mean, what do you mean, try to impress?

• 1:10:36Alex Cooper?

  Like, are you taking them to a certain spot?

• 1:10:38Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:10:39Alex Cooper?

  Are you? No.

• 1:10:39Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:10:40Alex Cooper?

  And are you doing coffee dates? Cause you're like, working at night?

• 1:10:42Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't, I wouldn't try to impress someone.

• 1:10:46Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:10:47Speaker 01

  I would, they would want to be with me or not. I, I don't want to be with some, you know, slurpy twink who's trying to like, you know, be impressed. I mean.

• 1:10:58Alex Cooper?

  Is it true that you did though, hook up with a guy that you met on Craigslist?

• 1:11:02Speaker 01

  Oh, I, Craigslist used to be the place where we hooked up.

• 1:11:05Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 1:11:06Speaker 01

  Oh, yes. That used to be, Craigslist was Grindr before there was Grindr.

• 1:11:11Alex Cooper?

  You're like, babe, that's another dating app, okay?

• 1:11:12Speaker 01

  Yes, it was.

• 1:11:13Alex Cooper?

  And were you, you had some successes there?

• 1:11:16Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. That was before I was famous also.

• 1:11:19Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Would you ever go back on Craigslist?

• 1:11:21Speaker 01

  I think that they, um, they, I think that they, uh, unplugged the meeting up feature on Craigslist years ago.

• 1:11:30Alex Cooper?

  Well, if they ever revamp it, you should be the face of.

• 1:11:33Speaker 01

  No, thanks.

• 1:11:33Alex Cooper?

  I know, okay. You would get a fat check for that one.

• 1:11:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:36Alex Cooper?

  Um, okay. How would you describe your typical type?

• 1:11:40Speaker 01

  Um, well, again, I'm like the UN. It's all over the map. I mean, you know, come one, come all. I, it's really about a vibe. I mean, to date, I, I like, to date, I like, strong, independent, smart, has their own thing going, uh, handsome. You know, I, I really like, it's so funny, the people, the few people that I've hooked up with on Raya, that I've actually hooked up in person with, have mainly not know, not watched, watched What Happens Live and don't watch The Housewives.

• 1:12:20Alex Cooper?

  So nice.

• 1:12:20Speaker 01

  And they're like, no, I, you know, I'm an architect and I do this, or I'm a finance guy.

• 1:12:26Alex Cooper?

  Do you like that?

• 1:12:27Speaker 01

  I do like it.

• 1:12:28Alex Cooper?

  It's kind of hot.

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's good.

• 1:12:29Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. It's like, oh, you've got a little like anonymity.

• 1:12:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:31Alex Cooper?

  Um, what has been your longest relationship?

• 1:12:35Speaker 01

  Three years, I'm embarrassed to say.

• 1:12:36Alex Cooper?

  No, three years is long.

• 1:12:38Speaker 01

  Really? I'm an old guy.

• 1:12:40Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, but three years.

• 1:12:41Speaker 01

  I've been single far longer than I've been with people. But I like being single and I like, I have a really good life.

• 1:12:49Alex Cooper?

  Keep it that way.

• 1:12:50Speaker 01

  So I haven't been like, oh, I'm so lonely. And then my kids wound up saving my life. Having kids later in life was like the greatest thing I have ever done.

• 1:13:00Alex Cooper?

  It's beautiful and I think that you've got a full house.

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  I have a family. It's great.

• 1:13:05Alex Cooper?

  We are gonna play one of the games that you play on your show, word association. Just say the first thing that comes to mind. Single Nicole Kidman.

• 1:13:12Speaker 01

  Um, living.

• 1:13:14Alex Cooper?

  Oh my god.

• 1:13:16Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:13:17Alex Cooper?

  Oh my.

• 1:13:19Alex Cooper?

  I'd just take everything to come out of you. Okay, the Golden Bachelor.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  Handsome?

• 1:13:23Alex Cooper?

  We're for it. Um, okay, Bad Bunny's Super Bowl halftime show.

• 1:13:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:13:27Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  He's an American, you fucking idiots.

• 1:13:32Speaker 01

  God, Puerto Rico is in America.

• 1:13:38Speaker 01

  God damn it.

• 1:13:39Alex Cooper?

  I hate that you have to clarify.

• 1:13:41Speaker 01

  Swimming in a sea of fucking idiots.

• 1:13:45Alex Cooper?

  It's so hard. It's so hard to be an American. Okay, um, Sydney Sweetie and Scooter Braun's relationship.

• 1:13:52Speaker 01

  Yes, into it.

• 1:13:53Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 1:13:53Speaker 01

  She's so hot.

• 1:13:54Alex Cooper?

  Oh, Scooter Braun?

• 1:13:56Speaker 01

  Why not?

• 1:13:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay, um, Teresa Giudice.

• 1:13:59Speaker 01

  Yes, oh gee.

• 1:14:01Alex Cooper?

  Ketamine.

• 1:14:02Speaker 01

  Never done it.

• 1:14:03Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 1:14:04Speaker 01

  I am the only gay man on the planet that has never done, oh no. Amy Sedaris and I did nasal ketamine once before we went to the polo bar. But it was just like, it lasted like half an hour. We didn't go in a K-hole or anything. So we did do that.

• 1:14:19Alex Cooper?

  Before the fucking polo bar?

• 1:14:21Speaker 01

  It was so weird. Someone gave it to us. It was not the time or the place, but it happened.

• 1:14:27Alex Cooper?

  I'm fucking done. Okay, Mauricio Umansky.

• 1:14:31Speaker 01

  Handsome.

• 1:14:32Alex Cooper?

  Handsome. Okay, the next season of the Rony reboot.

• 1:14:36Speaker 01

  Gonna be great.

• 1:14:37Alex Cooper?

  Love. Okay, last, before we go, plead the fifth. Three, ready?

• 1:14:43Speaker 01

  Plead the fifth.

• 1:14:43Alex Cooper?

  Plead the fifth.

• 1:14:44Speaker 01

  Okay, great.

• 1:14:44Alex Cooper?

  In your opinion, who is the thirstiest celebrity?

• 1:14:47Speaker 01

  Um, I'm gonna say, and I mean this with total love, and I love her.

• 1:14:57Speaker 01

  Brittany on Salt Lake City.

• 1:15:01Alex Cooper?

  I love you. Okay, which Housewives couple is headed for divorce?

• 1:15:06Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. Well, I mean, I have no idea. I'm stunned by, um, I was stunned, but I'm still getting over Kyle and Mauricio.

• 1:15:16Alex Cooper?

  I know, me too.

• 1:15:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm still getting over Rachel and Raj.

• 1:15:20Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so you don't have a new one?

• 1:15:21Speaker 01

  Zo. I don't have a new one.

• 1:15:23Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so you're pleading the fifth. Who do you think should replace you when you retire?

• 1:15:27Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. Um, you know, no, I'm not pleading the fifth. Now I wish I did about the Thirsty as Celebrity. I, who do I think should replace me? Well, I don't really love talking about my retirement. Thank you very much.

• 1:15:44Alex Cooper?

  You're like, I've never been-

• 1:15:45Speaker 01

  Who do you think should replace you, daddy?

• 1:15:49Alex Cooper?

  I know, you're like, I've never been hotter. Fuck off.

• 1:15:51Speaker 01

  I think, yeah, I mean, I'm like on fire, if you haven't noticed. Uh, I, uh-

• 1:15:57Alex Cooper?

  Then you don't have to answer. You-

• 1:15:58Speaker 01

  No, no, no, it's fine. I used to say, there's two people that I always kind of thought-

• 1:16:03Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:16:03Speaker 01

  Which were Jerry O'Connell, who I love-

• 1:16:05Alex Cooper?

  Great.

• 1:16:05Speaker 01

  And Jeff Lewis, who I think is great.

• 1:16:07Alex Cooper?

  Okay, but you're not going anywhere.

• 1:16:08Speaker 01

  But I'm not going anywhere.

• 1:16:10Alex Cooper?

  You lost the weight? You got your long hair? You're looking sexy?

• 1:16:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:16:15Alex Cooper?

  Like, you're here to stay.

• 1:16:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:17Alex Cooper?

  You're just getting started.

• 1:16:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:19Alex Cooper?

  Andy, this was everything I could have imagined and more. This was so fun.

• 1:16:23Speaker 01

  Daddy, thank you.

• 1:16:24Alex Cooper?

  So easy. Didn't even feel like an interview, right?

• 1:16:25Speaker 01

  No, it was so fun.

• 1:16:26Alex Cooper?

  We were just hanging out.

• 1:16:27Speaker 01

  Loved it.

• 1:16:27Alex Cooper?

  I love you, and this was truly so much fun, and I'm so happy you came on.

• 1:16:31Speaker 01

  Congratulations on all of your success.

• 1:16:34Alex Cooper?

  Thank you.

• 1:16:34Speaker 01

  How exciting. You're gonna be the best mom, and I am so excited-

• 1:16:39Alex Cooper?

  Wait, this is my pregnancy announcement.

• 1:16:40Speaker 01

  For this next phase. She's wearing a sweatsuit, and I know why. Um, you can't tell it all.

• 1:16:45Alex Cooper?

  Start the rumors.

• 1:16:46Speaker 01

  Um, you totally can't tell it all. Uh, but, uh, your producer told me. I know I'm not supposed to say-

• 1:16:53Alex Cooper?

  People are gonna literally believe this. I love it.

• 1:16:54Speaker 01

  No, but you are, when you do this, you're gonna, it's going to be the next phase, the evolution of you, and it's gonna be so fascinating then to be in the call her mommy phase of this all, and I can't- Wait and have me back and then we'll talk about like parenting and stuff like that.

• 1:17:14Alex Cooper?

  All the advice.

• 1:17:14Speaker 01

  We could just come back and bullshit whatever.

• 1:17:17Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:17:17Speaker 01

  But uh, but seriously, like I can't, I'm excited to see what happens next because I know this is like a whole show in progress.

• 1:17:25Alex Cooper?

  Oh my God, you're the best.

• 1:17:26Speaker 01

  Congratulations.

• 1:17:27Alex Cooper?

  Thank you, thank you, thank you.

• 1:17:28Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:17:29Alex Cooper?

  We love you, Andy.

• 1:17:30Speaker 01

  Okay, I have a response from Lisa Vanderpump. I said, shaking up BH cast, who should we part ways with? She said, all of them.

• 1:17:56Alex Cooper?

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• 1:18:36Alex Cooper?

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• 1:19:20Alex Cooper?

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• 1:20:04Alex Cooper?

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• 1:20:48Alex Cooper?

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