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From The Big Story: She Was the DEA’s Premier Crypto Detective. The Clues Led Straight to Her Own Family

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1h 25m
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This episode chronicles the career of Lili Infante, a Russian immigrant who became a pioneering federal agent investigating cryptocurrency crimes and dark web marketplaces for the DEA. Starting with her early days at Columbia University and her initial undercover surveillance work in Miami, the narrative follows her discovery of digital currency investigations following a personal betrayal. Infante eventually formed an inter-agency task force that targeted massive illicit online markets, culminating in the takedown of the multi-billion-dollar Russian darknet platform Hydra. Along the way, the episode examines the complexities of modern law enforcement, institutional corruption scandals within the agency, and Infante's unexpected personal connection to the very cybercrime economy she was fighting.

  • Investigators can trace anonymous cryptocurrency transactions by analyzing blockchain public ledgers and identifying connected web infrastructure or personal details. 49:18
  • Dark web marketplaces often rely on physical drop spots known as geocaches or clads to bypass mail inspection risks. 1:09:28
  • Inter-agency collaboration between the DEA, IRS, and international authorities is essential for tackling complex transnational cybercrime networks. 53:37

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Podcast Intro and Advertisements

    The episode opens with a brief host introduction, followed by a series of commercial spots for Whole Foods, DXL, and Threat Locker.

  2. 1:34
    Story Teaser: Lili Infante’s Dark Web Investigation

    The host presents the main narrative, hinting at Lili Infante’s journey from a Russian immigrant to a DEA crypto detective.

  3. 2:07
    Chapter One: The Eye – First Field Surveillance

    Lili’s first major assignment in Miami involves tracking a money mule, setting the stage for her future challenges.

  4. 8:44
    Chapter Two: The Wire – Early DEA Career

    Lili’s entry into the DEA, her training, and her early work on wiretap operations are detailed.

  5. 13:42
    Chapter Three: Miami – Rising Through the Ranks

    Lili’s transition to Miami, her struggles with agency culture, and her growing involvement in money laundering cases are explored.

  6. 31:40
    Chapter Six: Crypto Breakthrough – Silk Road and Beyond

    Lili’s work on Silk Road and subsequent operations against Dream Market solidify her reputation as a crypto‑crime pioneer.

  7. 42:09
    Chapter Five: Personal Turmoil – Family Betrayal

    Lili confronts her husband’s infidelity, leading to a divorce and a deeper focus on her career.

  8. 45:58
    Chapter Four: Tornado – Dark Web Operations Begin

    Lili pioneers the DEA’s first dark‑web task force, using cryptocurrency investigations to tackle drug trafficking.

  9. 59:34
    Lily Faces Human Shield Dealer

    Lily confronts a drug dealer who uses his infant as a shield, highlighting her past trauma from Russian opiate addiction.

  10. 1:00:16
    Family Struggles and Support

    Lily balances caring for her daughter Leah, her mother Nina, and her cousin Dennis while navigating the pressures of her job.

  11. 1:02:06
    The Bearded Kingpin Valerius

    Lily intercepts French beard champion Gal Valerius on US soil, hacks his wallet, and exposes his dual life as a drug kingpin.

Highlights

  • 5:39

    A Phone Mix-up Leads to Discoverystory

    While coordinating a major surveillance operation, the guest accidentally picks up her husband's phone and discovers a history of infidelity, derailing her tactical command.

  • 47:41

    Purchasing Drugs on the Dark Webstrategy

    To understand digital marketplaces, the guest convinces her supervisor to release two hundred dollars so she can buy cocaine on the dark web.

  • 51:42

    Tracking a Ghost Through Package Logsinsight

    By messaging a dark web vendor about a missing package and asking him to check tracking logs, the guest exposes his unencrypted IP address.

  • 1:01:16

    Catching a Kingpin at an Airportstory

    Authorities intercept a global drug kingpin traveling to Texas for a competitive beard-growing championship and seize his encrypted crypto wallets.

  • 1:08:12

    A Shocking Family Confessioninsight

    After her grandmother's death, the guest learns that the elderly woman operated a major drug-selling vendor profile on Hydra to pay off her grandson's debts.

  • 1:17:31

    The Fall of Hydradata

    German police seize servers and American authorities issue indictments, ultimately taking down Hydra while international conflict creates pressure for local arrests.

  • 1:22:37

    A Million-Dollar Bountydata

    Following the dismantling of the largest darknet market, surviving administrators place a four million dollar bounty on the guest's head.

Quotes

  • “The next morning, Lily scoured the DEA case management system for investigations involving crypto.”
    Unnamed speaker · 42:56
  • “She had to talk him into setting the child down before she could cuff him.”
    Unnamed speaker · 59:39
  • “Using tricks she'd learned from Tigran and her own research, Lily discovered Oxy Monster's identity by tracing his Bitcoin wallet address, which he'd optimistically and foolishly made public so he could receive tips.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:00:41
  • “Hydra was the largest darknet market and among the most sophisticated in the world: a pseudo‑corporate behemoth with 17 million users and thousands of vendors.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:07:25
  • “She was invited to speak at conferences for Bitcoin fanatics and cybercrime experts alike.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:03:43
  • Threat Locker 0:07–0:29
  • Whole Foods Market 0:30–0:58
  • DXL 1:01–1:28
  • Threat Locker 25:56–27:05
  • Whole Foods Market 27:09–27:34
  • DXL 27:37–28:03
  • Threat Locker 44:08–44:58
  • Whole Foods Market 44:58–45:27
  • DXL 45:29–45:58
  • Threat Locker 1:05:59–1:06:21
  • Whole Foods Market 1:06:22–1:06:51
  • DXL Big & Tall 1:06:41–1:07:01
  • Threat Locker 1:20:01–1:21:07
  • Whole Foods Market 1:21:07–1:21:36

About this episode

To listen to episodes a day early, follow The Big Story here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://swap.fm/l/wi-bigstorypod-feeddrop To escape the chaos of her Russian childhood, Lili Infante became an American law enforcement prodigy. She pioneered the DEA’s investigations of the dark web—never suspecting who she’d find hiding there. Written by Joshuah Bearman and Owen Long. Originally published on October 21st, 2026. For more of the most ambitious, future-defining stories from our favorite human writers, subscribe to The Big Story newsletter: https://www.wired.com/newsletter/the-big-story Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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Topics

  • Hydra
  • DEA
  • Bitcoin
  • Miami
  • Russia
  • Moscow
  • Tor
  • Carvana
  • Oxy Monster
  • Homeland Security

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