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From The Big Story: The Internet Runs on Cats and Porn. It’s About to Get Cattier and Pornier

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This episode of The Big Story from Wired explores the behind-the-scenes world of ICANN, the global governance body responsible for internet domain names and IP addresses, as it opens applications for hundreds of new top-level domains. With the 2026 application window closing, applicants ranging from corporate registries like Google—which famously paid $25 million for .app in 2012—to unconventional solopreneurs and grassroots groups like the queer-led .meow Foundation are vying for custom URL extensions. The host follows these negotiations in Seville, Spain, examining the fierce competition, high financial stakes, and complex geopolitics involved in shaping the future of the internet.

  • ICANN charges a hefty $227,000 application fee for each new top-level domain string to cover program administration costs. 12:18
  • The 439-page applicant guidebook establishes rigorous rules, such as barring two-letter and three-letter country codes and requiring municipal approval for geographic TLDs. 28:11
  • Private auctions in the previous round often distributed winning bids evenly among losing applicants instead of letting ICANN keep all the proceeds. 31:04

Chapters

  1. 0:07
    Podcast Intro and Theme

    The episode opens with the host announcing the Wired story about the internet’s new cat and porn domain names.

  2. 3:24
    ICANN Meeting in Seville

    The narrator describes attending ICANN 86 in Seville, the attendees, and the significance of the upcoming application window.

  3. 5:05
    The 2012 TLD Auction and Google’s .app

    The story recounts how Google paid $25 million for .app in 2012 and the business model of registries versus registrars.

  4. 7:36
    Vaughn Liley and the .xxx TLD

    The host interviews Liley, who once marketed the adult‑content .xxx domain and now plans a new TLD launch.

  5. 14:31
    The Rise of .meow and Queer TLDs

    The episode details the creation of the .meow domain, its Kickstarter, and its strategic positioning for the queer community.

  6. 28:19
    ICANN Rules and Application Process

    The narrator explains the rules for new TLDs, including string restrictions, auctions, and the applicant support program.

  7. 33:23
    Closing Remarks and Call to Action

    The episode concludes with the host’s final thoughts, credits, and a reminder to subscribe to Wired’s podcast.

Highlights

  • 5:05

    Google Paid Millions for .appdata

    In the 2012 round, Google paid $25 million at an ICANN auction to acquire the .app top-level domain, allowing the company to act as a registry and sell domain names.

  • 7:11

    Secretive Applicant Tacticsstory

    Insiders describe extreme paranoia during the application process, with companies flying globally in person and avoiding Gmail to prevent digital leaks.

  • 14:31

    The Origin Story of .meowstory

    The queer community top-level domain .meow began as a drunken idea between founders Erin Van Dale and TQ Hirsch that was preserved via a Signal message.

  • 28:34

    Crowdfunding a Domain Registrydata

    To fund their application, the .meow team ran a Kickstarter campaign that raised $137,000, achieving 150% of their original goal.

  • 31:04

    Private Auctions Versus ICANN Auctionsinsight

    While ICANN collected hundreds of millions in past auctions, private auctions frequently paid out the losing bidders from the winning sum.

Quotes

  • “In 2012, .app was considered a good string, so good that Google paid $25 million for it in an ICANN auction, outbidding a dozen applicants, including Amazon.”
    Unnamed speaker · 5:05
  • “The .meow Foundation is based in Belgium, and it's deliberately staying out of US jurisdiction, to the extent possible.”
    Unnamed speaker · 21:07
  • “The rules go on. If you want to run a geographic TLD like .NYC or .Paris, you need approval from that municipality.”
    Unnamed speaker · 28:57
  • Threat Locker 0:43–1:05
  • Stitch Fix 1:14–1:34
  • Farmers 1:34–3:01
  • SimplySafe 11:36–12:17
  • SimplySafe 23:33–24:40
  • Shopify 34:39–35:03
  • SimplySafe 35:04–35:32

About this episode

Listen to more of The Big Story here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://swap.fm/l/wi-bigstorypod-feeddrop Soon, hundreds of new top-level domains, including .meow and .fart, could be added to the internet. WIRED goes inside the backroom shenanigans of ICANN, the organization at the helm. Written by Pete Millspaugh. Originally published on October 6th, 2026. For more of the most ambitious, future-defining stories from our favorite human writers, subscribe to The Big Story newsletter: https://www.wired.com/newsletter/the-big-story Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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5,425 words · 8 speakers

Topics

  • ICANN
  • .meow
  • AI
  • .com
  • Google
  • .org
  • .app
  • VeriSign
  • Amazon
  • GoDaddy

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