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This week, Brooke is joined in the leathers with the one and only Kat Wellington. The girls talk about Brooke’s writing process with her book, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement, and getting absolutely tow up off the bottle.
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Chapters:
0:00 Brooke and Kat MAP
0:27 Intro
0:44 Two Truths & A Lie
2:30 Kat’s Book Haul
4:30 Football Season Is Back
7:10 Getting Bribed To Read
8:45 Brooke Is Fostering & Raising Kids
14:40 Brooke’s FYP Family
16:28 Kat’s Weekend
18:54 Cash App
20:58 Rocket Money
22:34 Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s Engagement
30:11 Kat Is Tow Up
32:25 Team Conrad vs Team Jeremiah
40:06 Brooke’s Book Writing Process
44:53 Brooklyn Bedding
46:22 Dupe
47:55 Parting Ways With Phoebe
52:22 Brooke Writing Her Second Book
56:33 Deleting Goodreads
1:01:16 Harry Styles Is A Stranger
1:04:09 Getting Humbled As Actors
1:08:22 See You In Bonus!!!
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1:00 Brooke Averick? Hey guys, welcome back to
1:01 Speaker 03 Hey y'all.
1:02 Brooke Averick? Hey y'all.
1:02 Speaker 03 Hey.
1:03 Brooke Averick? Welcome back to Brooke and Kat Make a Podcast today. We've got Kat W. Thank heavens to Betsy. She could be with us today as Connor does not have wifi in the entire state of Michigan.
1:13 Speaker 03 Connor is disconnected.
1:13 Brooke Averick? He is completely unplugged, disconnected. And we will miss him, but Kat, I mean, how lucky, how lucky are we to have you?
1:22 Speaker 03 But it is good to be in this leather seat with you, Brooke.
1:25 Brooke Averick? It always good to be in the leathers with you.
1:44 Speaker 03 I do always miss, we had one with Connor, but you know, I don't usually get Connor on the pod.
1:49 Brooke Averick? No, you don't.
1:50 Speaker 03 Connor, you know, you blink and you miss it.
1:52 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
1:53 Speaker 03 So I haven't seen him in a while, but I really miss him.
1:56 Brooke Averick? You're usually stuck with my extremely rubber ass staff.
1:59 Speaker 03 And I love that. I love that. I'm not letting Brooke move. When Brooke mentions the word move, I like, I really get very sick.
2:05 Brooke Averick? Where did that come from?
2:06 Speaker 03 Connor moves.
2:07 Brooke Averick? Oh, oh, oh, oh.
2:09 Speaker 03 Connor actually headed out.
2:10 Brooke Averick? I'm not like moving anytime soon.
2:12 Speaker 03 No, you can't.
2:13 Brooke Averick? It's just when I'm lamenting about like the selection of like men in Los Angeles, but it could be
2:19 Speaker 03 Brooke wants to like go to like Pennsylvania and she thinks that's where it's gonna happen.
2:24 Brooke Averick? Well, it's also like It's hard to say if I'm being dramatic. I think there's two truths that are existing at the same time.
2:31 Speaker 03 Two truths in a lot.
2:31 Brooke Averick? Yeah, one, I am like being dramatic because I'm also like not trying hard.
2:36 Speaker 03 Right.
2:36 Brooke Averick? And two, I do think LA does have the horrible state, like the worst election of any state.
2:41 Speaker 03 No, I think you are being dramatic, but you are, there's also truth to it.
2:44 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
2:45 Speaker 03 Completely agree.
2:45 Brooke Averick? Yeah, two truths.
2:46 Speaker 03 Like LA is tough, but I do, I do, I do need to seize a little bit more.
2:53 Brooke Averick? I'm not moving anytime soon.
2:55 Speaker 03 Okay.
2:55 Brooke Averick? And also.
2:56 Speaker 03 I'm gonna break from dating.
2:56 Brooke Averick? Like when I'm reading a really good romance novel, like I am right now, book lovers, I'm totally fine being single for the rest of my life. Because as long as I have. Yeah, as long as I have, like, just that, uh, input.
3:08 Speaker 03 See, I feel like when I'm reading a romance novel, I like accidentally make it about myself where I'm like, I wish I had more of this.
3:15 Brooke Averick? I, I experience that sometimes, but usually it's like, this doesn't, I don't know if I could ever have this because it's too good to be true.
3:24 Speaker 03 Right.
3:24 Brooke Averick? So I'm good just like experiencing it.
3:26 Speaker 03 It's a story.
3:27 Brooke Averick? Through fiction.
3:28 Speaker 03 Right.
3:29 Brooke Averick? In this capacity.
3:30 Speaker 03 Well, you know, I haven't been able to read, we went to the bookstore, obviously, and I haven't, I packed up about three to four books.
3:37 Brooke Averick? Tell everyone your haul. You had a really good haul.
3:39 Speaker 03 Really good haul. Haven't cracked one open yet. It was about two months ago. Um, I don't remember what they're called. I'm sure you do.
3:47 Brooke Averick? I can tell you.
3:48 Speaker 03 The Taylor Jenkins Reid one, I think is called Atmosphere. That's the only one I remember. The one that I'm thinking about starting.
3:55 Brooke Averick? I think about.
3:56 Speaker 03 Starting to think about starting. I have packed it now for about three different trips in my backpack. Haven't opened it. Um, Eleanor will be so fine.
4:06 Brooke Averick? Eleanor, you will be so completely fine.
4:08 Speaker 03 What is it called?
4:09 Brooke Averick? Eleanor Oliphant. Wait, now I'm getting confused. Eleanor Oliphant is completely fine?
4:16 Speaker 03 It was genuinely okay.
4:18 Brooke Averick? She's completely fucking fine. It's Eleanor Oliphant.
4:21 Speaker 03 Will be okay.
4:22 Brooke Averick? She will be completely.
4:23 Speaker 03 Fine.
4:23 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
4:24 Speaker 03 Wow, that sounds like not real.
4:26 Brooke Averick? No, it sounds like something Tristan would say.
4:28 Speaker 03 Okay, Eleanor will be so fucking fine.
4:32 Brooke Averick? Totally fine. This is when I was like.
4:34 Speaker 03 I'm excited about this.
4:34 Brooke Averick? Trying to name my book and I was like, I want something like Eleanor.
4:38 Speaker 03 Yeah. I, I can tell by the cover that I will like it.
4:43 Brooke Averick? You will.
4:44 Speaker 03 Yeah, I will.
4:45 Brooke Averick? It's a great book.
4:46 Speaker 03 It hasn't happened yet, so I have to give it time.
4:48 Brooke Averick? And then you know the other one you got?
4:50 Speaker 03 I don't.
4:51 Brooke Averick? Remarkably bright creatures.
4:53 Speaker 03 Oh, yes. I'm excited for that.
4:54 Brooke Averick? That one I just freaking.
4:55 Speaker 03 Y'all mind if I talk about books I haven't read?
4:59 Brooke Averick? That's fine, Kat.
5:01 Speaker 03 Before that, but they weren't even like something I need to discuss, you know?
5:04 Brooke Averick? Yeah, but you have been, you're a good reader despite you saying that you don't read. Like you read more than the average person.
5:11 Speaker 03 Um, well, I think like, because when I do, it'll be like a week of like, oh, I read three books and then I, it'll be like a year of I haven't touched.
5:21 Brooke Averick? Yeah. Yeah, but I have high hopes for, um, this haul.
5:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, I do too, but I kind of thought it'd be like a summer thing and, you know, summer's kind of coming to an end.
5:29 Brooke Averick? Summer. It is still summer. Huge way.
5:32 Speaker 03 Yeah. And I guess our summers are a little bit longer here, which is good because I really feel like I can't stress enough, when football starts, like I was at home with my family this weekend watching and football was on and that.
5:43 Brooke Averick? Did it start?
5:44 Speaker 03 I mean, something, the Eagles were playing. I don't know.
5:46 Brooke Averick? You were kidding me.
5:47 Speaker 03 Preseason, I think.
5:48 Brooke Averick? Preseason started already, Kat?
5:50 Speaker 03 Izzy just confirmed preseason.
5:51 Brooke Averick? Started.
5:52 Speaker 03 Preseason started and like for everyone else, I know. The Eagles were on the screen playing.
6:00 Speaker 03 Can you guys believe Brooke missed a preseason game? She loves the Eagles.
6:04 Brooke Averick? Flirt by that.
6:05 Speaker 03 Um, like when football starts for me, I know everyone gets like so excited. You hear the song, oh my God, it's fall. I feel this like huge pit in my stomach because I just feel like it's getting colder.
6:15 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
6:15 Speaker 03 And people are getting angrier and I just don't like the energy in the, the energy in the bars changes. Like it's just a lot heavier. So I was getting really sad and I forgot we lived in LA, so we have a lot longer of warm weather.
6:27 Brooke Averick? We genuinely like summer ends October 1st in LA.
6:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's great for me.
6:32 Brooke Averick? I do believe that. I'm trying not to burp. I don't give a fuck.
6:36 Speaker 03 I do believe that too.
6:41 Speaker 03 Oh, so you said, watch the Eagles and shit like that?
6:44 Brooke Averick? Like I couldn't be more thrilled.
6:46 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:46 Brooke Averick? About it all.
6:47 Speaker 03 Did you do your fantasy draft and get everything squared away?
6:50 Brooke Averick? Exactly.
6:51 Speaker 03 Mm hmm.
6:51 Brooke Averick? Yeah. So that will be amazing. Bets are placed, money's already being won.
6:57 Speaker 03 Money is coming in.
6:58 Brooke Averick? There was this one time when I was a very young little girl. Um, and my dad was having, I don't remember the specifics, Kat, but there was some sort of like
7:08 Speaker 03 Probably the Super Bowl chart.
7:09 Brooke Averick? Super Bowl chart.
7:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
7:11 Brooke Averick? Among like my, the Super Bowl party that I was at and you bet and place money and I was eight and just like put my name in the random slot and won among all these men. I won hundreds of dollars when I was little. It was incredible. And ever since then, I've loved football.
7:29 Speaker 03 Ever since then, I've been addicted to sports betting since the Super Bowl.
7:32 Brooke Averick? Not that betting since the Super Bowl of 2003.
7:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, I, I actually feel like that's a core memory. Like my family used to have a Super Bowl party every year in our basement, of course, Maryland core. And like, I remember winning a little bit of money on that too, as a very, very, very small child, not as small as you, because you are very petite, but a little bit small.
7:54 Brooke Averick? Doesn't always.
7:57 Speaker 03 Um, and I feel like I won some money too. And it is nice to like, you feel like you really, really did something at that time.
8:03 Brooke Averick? And at that age to have $20 in your pocket.
8:06 Speaker 03 Oh, my God. Yeah.
8:07 Brooke Averick? What can't you do?
8:08 Speaker 03 Right. Um, speaking of $20, at one point, my mom, because I never read, like, and we're talking about reading, my mom offered me like, I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was like $10 per 100 pages or something that I read of books. I ran through the entire Click series, the entire Pretty Little Liars series, uh, and I was actually reading them all. I read so many fucking books. I made thousands of dollars. I went to the mall and I spent it all at Bath and Body Works.
8:40 Brooke Averick? Wow.
8:40 Speaker 03 And like garage and it was amazing.
8:43 Brooke Averick? I bet. That's exactly what your mom was wanting was the Click, Pretty Little Liars, etc.
8:47 Speaker 03 There was a point.
8:48 Brooke Averick? That's the loophole.
8:49 Speaker 03 There was like, the Click is so easy to read and they're like pretty short and there's a million of them. I love them, but, um, yeah, it did get to a point where she'd be like, okay, this isn't really what I meant, but like you are doing it. So I have to honor the honor code here.
9:05 Brooke Averick? That was the best memory of like getting a series like The Click and like I would only get one at a time because it's like, I love going back to bookstores so much.
9:14 Speaker 03 Oh, that's fun.
9:14 Brooke Averick? Yeah. But now I feel like people just buy a series in bulk. But I want to go back to just like buying one at a time so I can go to the bookstore and get every single
9:23 Speaker 03 I kinda think like mine were library. My mom was big on like library.
9:27 Brooke Averick? Yeah, I was and then became really obsessed with being a collector.
9:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, I mean, that's way cooler. I wish I had collected.
9:36 Brooke Averick? No, libraries are amazing, too.
9:38 Speaker 03 Libraries are great. I, yeah.
9:39 Brooke Averick? That's where I did my Junie B. Jones.
9:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:42 Brooke Averick? Was the library. I had a great time there.
9:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:45 Brooke Averick? But I have to tell you something.
9:46 Speaker 03 Okay.
9:47 Brooke Averick? Cause you don't check your phone, your socials, really. I had already blasted this out on there, but you're so unplugged that you've been seeing it yet.
9:55 Speaker 03 Yeah, I actually saw a glimmer of something, but I then I couldn't open it because it was too late. So go ahead.
10:02 Brooke Averick? I
10:03 Speaker 03 Go ahead.
10:04 Brooke Averick? Am fostering a cat.
10:06 Speaker 03 Okay, I saw this.
10:08 Brooke Averick? Fostering a little girl cat.
10:10 Speaker 03 What does it look like?
10:12 Brooke Averick? She's beautiful.
10:13 Speaker 03 She look like, I'm so sorry.
10:14 Brooke Averick? She's a little gray, like very furry girl. And she's very, very shy. It's hard for me to say.
10:22 Speaker 03 Wow, I wonder how she'll react with the boy.
10:24 Brooke Averick? About her at all.
10:25 Speaker 03 I'm so excited for you.
10:26 Brooke Averick? I know.
10:27 Speaker 03 And you get her today, right? Because that's all I saw is because the Friends of Normie post had expired, so I couldn't see the young woman, but I saw you said, I'm gonna pick her up today, so.
10:36 Brooke Averick? Well, it was posted, Friends of Normie is where I got robbed. They're just like the greatest
10:41 Speaker 03 Very sweet.
10:41 Brooke Averick? Rescue in the Los Angeles area. Love them. But it was posted like 23 hours ago that like this girl, this little girl cat needed a home. And I was like, okay, like, I'm sure she's, she's been taken by now.
10:55 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:55 Brooke Averick? But let me just check. And she was, she wasn't. So she's, she's coming home.
10:59 Speaker 03 Do you think you're gonna end up keeping her?
11:01 Brooke Averick? No, and that's why I responded because I, I think I'll be able to be good.
11:06 Speaker 03 Oh, we have an image?
11:07 Brooke Averick? I don't think that's her, but that's Friends of Normie.
11:11 Brooke Averick? Um, I think I would have a problem with a cat that like came right up and like cuddled into my neck like John and Rob. Like, I don't think I'd be able to let someone like that slip out of my grip.
11:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:23 Brooke Averick? Like, I wouldn't. But I think she's like very shy.
11:26 Speaker 03 Oh.
11:26 Brooke Averick? So maybe we won't like have that like mother-daughter.
11:31 Speaker 03 Right.
11:31 Brooke Averick? Moment, which I don't want, because I don't want a third cat.
11:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, I, yeah, I feel very overwhelmed with my cats.
11:38 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
11:38 Speaker 03 In a way where like literally yesterday, I was like, I could never have kids because my two cats are like far too much.
11:43 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
11:43 Speaker 03 And cats are very limiting. So imagine if I had to like walk a dog.
11:46 Brooke Averick? No. I literally, I've said this before, but like my entire view on having children has shifted. Since I got the boys.
11:54 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:55 Brooke Averick? Like in a, in a massive way.
11:57 Speaker 03 I mean, Cheddar, right now, I just went away for three days and Cheddar's rebelling by pooping next to his box, his clean box. Um, and it's just like, it's just nonstop. I feel like I come sprinting around for these gentlemen. They are my, they run my life.
12:11 Brooke Averick? No, I do. I don't know if everyone's cats are.
12:14 Speaker 03 No, there's no way.
12:16 Brooke Averick? Like, they're so, but, but all four of our boys, it's just like, it's all the time. It's like screaming, like.
12:23 Speaker 03 Screaming, fighting.
12:24 Brooke Averick? My boys are knocking everything over, shattering. In the middle of the night, I'm woken up, glass shattering.
12:30 Speaker 03 Have you, have you told them about your rug?
12:33 Brooke Averick? It's just like, I have a rug.
12:36 Speaker 03 I know.
12:37 Brooke Averick? I can't even, I, they tear it up like from.
12:41 Speaker 03 Brand new rug.
12:42 Brooke Averick? From the brand new gorgeous, they, from the, from the ground up. Basically, they're tearing every fiber out of the rug. I have gotten them 80,000 scratching things. I've put scratching mats down on the rug. They're just on scratch next to the mat, onto the rug.
12:57 Speaker 03 I would say like Brooke's apartment is more cat scratching post-surface area than there is like regular ground.
13:06 Brooke Averick? And they will just do the six penny chairs. Those are completely fucked.
13:10 Speaker 03 Shattered.
13:11 Brooke Averick? Those, I'm waiting till they stop scratching and I'm gonna hopefully get them recovered. But I don't, I don't, it doesn't seem like they'll ever stop scratching. The joy bird is now completely.
13:18 Speaker 03 Yeah.
13:19 Brooke Averick? Destroyed.
13:19 Speaker 03 It was only a matter of time, the joy bird, the joy bird.
13:22 Brooke Averick? The joy bird.
13:23 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
13:23 Brooke Averick? The rug and I'll vacuum up, they like, it's just constantly like loose strings.
13:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
13:28 Brooke Averick? And I'll vacuum them up, turn around, plug the vacuum in, immediately destroyed again. I don't know how there's any rug left.
13:36 Speaker 03 No, I agree because it still looks pretty after you scrape.
13:39 Brooke Averick? It's like, I wouldn't say pretty, but like it's not, it's still a rug. Like I don't know how it's not just a shred. You know?
13:46 Speaker 03 Yeah, I do know.
13:47 Brooke Averick? So.
13:48 Speaker 03 So y'all, y'all give a shit about.
13:49 Brooke Averick? I would say like my house, everything in it is pretty destroyed. Like I can't have anything nice.
13:54 Speaker 03 It doesn't look like that though.
13:56 Brooke Averick? Does if you look a little bit close.
13:58 Speaker 03 Yeah, but like you're looking close. Like me when I walk in, I'm not looking at that.
14:03 Brooke Averick? And like in some people's houses that have cats, like there's not litter everywhere. Like I can't walk barefoot, no matter how much I vacuum.
14:10 Speaker 03 Well, that's just.
14:11 Brooke Averick? I've littered my bed.
14:12 Speaker 03 That's the anatomy, that's the anatomy of your home, unfortunately. Like you're, it's just.
14:18 Brooke Averick? I don't have like a separate space.
14:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, like my laundry room, I will not go in there without shoes. Like there's shoes set there because there's litter everywhere.
14:26 Brooke Averick? Right.
14:26 Speaker 03 And then it also kind of tracks into the kitchen, which is super pretty. Um, but yeah, like, so I do think there's litter everywhere for other people, but yours just happens to be in the dining restaurant, the dining area.
14:37 Brooke Averick? I've started having to lint roll the soles of my feet before I get into bed. Does that make sense?
14:42 Speaker 03 No, I, yeah, I do a big like scrape.
14:44 Brooke Averick? A big scrape. It's incredible. I love my boys more than.
14:48 Speaker 03 They're very sweet.
14:49 Brooke Averick? Yeah, no, they're amazing.
14:51 Speaker 03 Yeah, I like them.
14:52 Brooke Averick? Being a cat mom is, has been the, the greatest.
14:55 Speaker 03 Yeah. And you're about to get a daughter.
14:57 Brooke Averick? I'm about, well.
14:58 Speaker 03 A temporary daughter.
14:59 Brooke Averick? About to get a niece.
15:00 Speaker 03 Okay.
15:00 Brooke Averick? Yeah, I'm really scared I'm going to keep her. I don't think, I can't, I literally can't.
15:06 Speaker 03 I honestly like, I'm at a place where I, because my kitten, I mean, I guess he's about to turn like a year, is so high maintenance. I cannot have another animal.
15:15 Brooke Averick? I can't either.
15:15 Speaker 03 No, I know. So I, I agree. Like I don't think you should keep, what's her name?
15:19 Brooke Averick? Safran.
15:20 Speaker 03 Safran.
15:21 Brooke Averick? Safran.
15:22 Speaker 03 Zac Efron.
15:25 Brooke Averick? Lady Safran.
15:28 Speaker 03 So yeah, I don't know. But I mean, you know, she might fit in great with the gentleman.
15:33 Brooke Averick? I do wonder.
15:33 Speaker 03 I was scared we were going to talk about our cat the whole time.
15:35 Brooke Averick? It's fine to do.
15:36 Speaker 03 I know. It's really all we like talk about because it's our favorite thing to talk about.
15:41 Brooke Averick? I've been getting these AI cat podcasting videos. You seen them?
15:46 Speaker 03 No.
15:47 Brooke Averick? It's like, just like these two cats.
15:48 Speaker 03 I haven't had a chance to scroll through our TikTok DMs, but I think there's like 10 in a row of just cats.
15:57 Brooke Averick? I keep getting these AI cats podcasting and they're like, and you wouldn't guess where I splayed out in the bed, right on top of her legs and then they start laughing.
16:09 Brooke Averick? They crack my ass up.
16:10 Speaker 03 For you, Paige is very different than most people's like, I know that that that could come across mine easily, but and we have a lot of overlap. But then there's also some shit you send me that I'm like, wow, this is great because this would have never crossed my personal desk.
16:26 Brooke Averick? I have, and like, we can do this in bonus. We can check in with everyone. Like, I have a family.
16:31 Speaker 03 I was really wanting, have you talked about them before?
16:34 Brooke Averick? Which who? Which ones?
16:35 Speaker 03 Oh.
16:36 Brooke Averick? Like some characters, but like I have like recurring characters that I got on my free page that I consider parts of my family.
16:43 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:44 Brooke Averick? That like I'll send to people and like, I feel like definitely.
16:46 Speaker 03 She's just introducing me to her family. So she'll send and be like, this is so and so, just so you have them on your radar.
16:52 Brooke Averick? Denise Salany real or whatever and stuff like that.
16:54 Speaker 03 That family, like I had never seen them. Now sometimes they'll pop up because I watch. And then there's a new gentleman. Or is she a woman? I'm so fucking sorry.
17:04 Brooke Averick? No, you're good.
17:06 Speaker 03 I haven't like tuned into the content.
17:07 Brooke Averick? Not right now.
17:09 Speaker 03 Okay.
17:10 Brooke Averick? Jury's, jury's out on, on that person right now.
17:13 Speaker 03 Okay.
17:14 Brooke Averick? Kind of following that journey.
17:15 Speaker 03 All right. We can talk about it on the bonus.
17:17 Brooke Averick? Okay.
17:17 Speaker 03 The other characters.
17:19 Brooke Averick? But I really just, I am really curious about your weekend because you had a really, a really, you had a huge one.
17:25 Speaker 03 Brooke, that's really sweet. I'm curious about your weekend too. I didn't talk to anyone all weekend.
17:32 Speaker 03 My best friend got engaged, which I'm just like, yay. Emily, she's been on obsessed, if y'all remember, you know, from the archives.
17:40 Brooke Averick? Your co-host.
17:41 Speaker 03 Well, also my co-host, I'm sorry, I'm talking to your community, but my co-host of my pod that has since retired as well. But anyway, yeah, it was great. It was really amazing. I was home since Thursday and I couldn't like see her or talk to her, which was weird. And then it was very much like party planning. If you need to get flowers, I hit Trader Joe's at 8 a.m. and got like $250 worth of flowers and we had like flowers everywhere. Like it just felt like it was amazing.
18:11 Brooke Averick? Wow. It looked amazing.
18:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, it was really pretty. And then she was actually so surprised.
18:17 Brooke Averick? You said someone gave it away. So walk me through that.
18:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, I had texted Brooke, like, I thought there was, someone had texted like, and said, boarding, like, in a group chat with her, that she didn't know was coming home. So I was like, she's too smart to, like, to not pick up, pick up on that. But I guess Kyle, her fiance.
18:36 Brooke Averick? She wasn't being smart.
18:38 Speaker 03 Well, I think she had, she really wanted to be surprised. So I think, I guess, if you know you're getting engaged within the year or whatever, like, she was kind of like, not wanting to be disappointed. So she wasn't looking into things as much as she normally would.
18:51 Brooke Averick? Oh, good for her.
18:52 Speaker 03 Whereas like, they've been together nine years, like, five years ago, I think she would have been like, he's proposing. Like, she just like, she would always.
18:57 Brooke Averick? Nine years.
18:58 Speaker 03 Nine years. And like, even in college, all the time, she would be like, he's, I know he's surprising me. And I'd be like, Emily, he is not surprising me. Like, I'm telling you right now, he's not coming. So I think she tried to like, you know, let her guard down a bit. And she was really surprised. I was sobbing my eyes out.
19:14 Brooke Averick? Oh, my God.
19:15 Speaker 03 It's really sweet. And then I thought they got engaged at the exact same time as Taylor and Travis. But then I actually just found out this morning, because I was feeling like Travis was down the same time Kyle was down. Because Emily's a huge Taylor. I mean, I am as well, I'm a huge Taylor Swift fan. And I just felt like they were really aligned. But I found out, which you might not know, it was actually after the New Heights podcast.
19:37 Brooke Averick? Really?
19:38 Speaker 03 They walked out, and that had been set up.
19:40 Brooke Averick? After recording?
19:41 Speaker 03 That had been set up while they were recording, at Travis's home piece.
19:44 Brooke Averick? That's, that'll be fun to re-watch and be like, was Travis nervous, like, etc.
19:48 Speaker 03 I know, what?
19:49 Brooke Averick? Like, I'm not doing, I'm not recording a podcast seconds before my, I'm proposing.
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20:54 Speaker 03 No, like, I don't really understand, but I guess it's a good way to get her surprised and like, I have no idea and have her secluded in a room.
21:03 Brooke Averick? Wow.
21:04 Speaker 03 But I, you know, the hardest thing I've had to go through as of recent is being in a friend group who is not Swifties while shit like this is happening.
21:16 Brooke Averick? Well.
21:17 Speaker 03 Because like, I am over the moon for them. And I, like, the second they started dating, I was just like, I mean, everyone's saying this, but I like, felt like this was correct for her.
21:26 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
21:27 Speaker 03 Okay? And like, it just is. And it looks very similar to the watches and rings that I have.
21:32 Brooke Averick? And, does it?
21:34 Speaker 03 Yeah.
21:35 Brooke Averick? I love that.
21:36 Speaker 03 Brooke, I'm just kidding.
21:36 Brooke Averick? You know me, I'm not, not.
21:39 Speaker 03 No, you're fine. You're fine, but like.
21:41 Brooke Averick? You know, when my, like, Taylor Swift comes on, like, I will be, I will sing it.
21:45 Speaker 03 Dude, Brooke, like, Brooke plays it down. We're at our friend's birthday party like, two weeks ago. We're doing All Too Well 10 Minute. Brooke's like, "Yeah, I kind of like Taylor Swift." Like, "I'll sing along, like, I like Folklore," whatever. She knows every word to 10 minutes.
22:00 Brooke Averick? I know every word to the 10 minute. I know every song on Folklore.
22:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, I know.
22:04 Brooke Averick? All the old songs I love. I love most of the songs on Reputation. And then some other, Red. Like, I love truly most of them.
22:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:14 Brooke Averick? I did not like Midnight.
22:16 Speaker 03 I'm not a big Midnight's girl either. I'm not, also not a big Reputation girl, which is kind of controversial.
22:21 Brooke Averick? I don't know, I mean, I love like, Getaway Car, Dancing With Our Hands, side, etc.
22:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:28 Brooke Averick? Um, but I'm really struggling getting invested in the, in her personal life, which is hard for me because I find myself invested in most people's personal lives.
22:37 Speaker 03 I'm kind of the opposite. I think I'm only invested in her personal life because she's been a part of my personal life since I was, you know, she's my first concert when I was like seven or whatever. So I do feel like that because I have trouble getting invested in people's personal life.
22:53 Brooke Averick? And that is not an area where I struggle.
22:56 Speaker 03 I would have a hard time collab posting with my fiance named Killer Travis. I think I'd be like, let's change it up before we collab. Yeah. Hey, it is what it is.
23:07 Brooke Averick? But maybe she really likes him, just like.
23:09 Speaker 03 She does.
23:09 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
23:10 Speaker 03 She likes the guy.
23:11 Brooke Averick? She really likes the guy.
23:12 Speaker 03 Like I just feel the way that everyone feels like it's so nice to see her. Like someone like really out loud, like defend her and love her. It's really beautiful to me.
23:22 Brooke Averick? No, I think that's great for anyone. Everyone should have that.
23:25 Speaker 03 I agree.
23:26 Brooke Averick? And listen, I'm happy for them. That looks great.
23:28 Speaker 03 It really looks beautiful.
23:30 Brooke Averick? I just, you know, I wish I could be like, care more, be as excited as everyone because it's, it's fun. You know, it's really fun to be on something.
23:38 Speaker 03 It's fun.
23:39 Brooke Averick? Can't get myself there, but I'm happy for them.
23:41 Speaker 03 I don't think you personally need to feel that way. I have trouble when people are like mean about it.
23:45 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
23:46 Speaker 03 You know what I mean?
23:46 Brooke Averick? No, I totally get that.
23:48 Speaker 03 Because I'm like, why do you either don't give a fuck or give a fuck?
23:51 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
23:51 Speaker 03 That's how I feel.
23:52 Brooke Averick? I completely get that.
23:52 Speaker 03 But they look beautiful. I'm very happy for them. I feel like they're going to be like poppy, popping out kids.
23:58 Brooke Averick? Oh my God, I never thought about her having kids for whatever reason.
24:00 Speaker 03 She wants kids.
24:01 Brooke Averick? Does she?
24:02 Speaker 03 I think.
24:05 Speaker 03 I feel like they, you know, I feel like they talk about the, the girls, Jason's girls. I don't know if there's only girls all the time and I just think they're gonna have kids.
24:15 Brooke Averick? To me, I feel like Taylor's the kind of girl, I mean, I don't know one thing about her.
24:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, yes.
24:20 Brooke Averick? But that's like, oh, I don't want kids and then meets like some, the right one, like Travis. And then she can see herself with a really big family.
24:27 Speaker 03 Right.
24:28 Brooke Averick? That makes sense.
24:28 Speaker 03 No, totally.
24:30 Brooke Averick? So.
24:30 Speaker 03 She's, yeah, she's a very independent girl where I could see her also like as a defense mechanism being like, I don't know, I'll be fine without them. Like, you know, me, yeah.
24:41 Speaker 03 Totally me.
24:42 Brooke Averick? My romance novels, I'm all good.
24:45 Speaker 03 We have these conversations all the time where we're like, I don't think we need a.
24:49 Brooke Averick? Yeah, yeah, like we're good.
24:51 Speaker 03 But I'm sure I'll at a point where I'm like, I do need them, so and we'll be adopting.
24:57 Brooke Averick? Yep.
24:58 Speaker 03 Family together.
24:59 Brooke Averick? Yep. I do like the caption.
25:02 Speaker 03 I do too.
25:03 Brooke Averick? It's like very true. Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married. I agree.
25:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
25:07 Brooke Averick? I completely agree with that.
25:08 Speaker 03 Well, yeah, Miles, obviously, Miles was the first, Miles was my boyfriend. He was the first one I saw text me about it because I'm sure at work it was like a big thing. And I hadn't been on Instagram yet. And he texted me Taylor Swift got married.
25:22 Brooke Averick? Okay.
25:22 Speaker 03 So I had actually thought they eloped.
25:23 Brooke Averick? Okay.
25:24 Speaker 03 But yeah, he didn't care for the caption randomly.
25:26 Brooke Averick? Oh, I think it's funny.
25:27 Speaker 03 I think it's so cute. And it's like something that people have said.
25:30 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
25:31 Speaker 03 A lot. I think it's adorable.
25:33 Brooke Averick? I, I do. I, I think it's adorable because it's like extremely accurate.
25:37 Speaker 03 Right.
25:38 Brooke Averick? Like that is an English teacher and that is a gym teacher.
25:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, if it wasn't accurate, it would be cringe, but it just is. I can't see the like number. What does it say?
25:46 Brooke Averick? It's, I would get, okay, that's 30 million.
25:49 Speaker 03 Okay. That's fine.
25:51 Brooke Averick? Wait, I'm going to practice my big number reading. 30 million, 300, I see.
25:56 Speaker 03 350,000.
25:57 Brooke Averick? 350,544.
25:59 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:00 Brooke Averick? I agree.
26:00 Speaker 03 I do too.
26:01 Brooke Averick? Sometimes I get a little tripped up and people say that it's not okay.
26:05 Speaker 03 Yeah. So if it had one more number, like in the front, it would be a billion.
26:08 Brooke Averick? Agreed.
26:09 Speaker 03 Or I guess two.
26:10 Brooke Averick? But for now, it's 30 million, 350,544.
26:16 Speaker 03 Do we know them? Like, I, I thought they were going to kind of break like most liked, but.
26:19 Brooke Averick? What is the most liked photo?
26:21 Speaker 03 I don't know.
26:22 Brooke Averick? Dot com.
26:23 Speaker 03 Let's see.
26:23 Brooke Averick? Izzy's got, got it.
26:25 Speaker 03 I remember there being like a weird situation with eggs or like.
26:29 Brooke Averick? Oh, Lionel Messi.
26:30 Speaker 03 Okay.
26:31 Brooke Averick? That's 78 million.
26:32 Speaker 03 Oh, there's an egg. Okay, I see.
26:35 Brooke Averick? Justin egg?
26:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, like people rallied behind this egg.
26:41 Brooke Averick? It's just an egg.
26:42 Speaker 03 I agree.
26:44 Brooke Averick? How many likes does this have?
26:46 Speaker 03 Sixty million. Sixty million. It's doubled Taylor and Travis.
26:51 Brooke Averick? Oh, nice.
26:52 Speaker 03 I bet they feel so dumb.
26:54 Brooke Averick? Oh, my God. How embarrassing.
26:56 Speaker 03 How embarrassing.
26:57 Brooke Averick? Oh, my God.
26:57 Speaker 03 And my friend Emily's about to post today when she gets photographer photos back and she's gonna ratio so bad.
27:03 Brooke Averick? She's gonna ratio so bad.
27:04 Speaker 03 I feel so bad for Taylor.
27:06 Brooke Averick? Were you in the space when Kyle got down on me?
27:10 Speaker 03 No, no, I wasn't.
27:10 Brooke Averick? It was just them?
27:11 Speaker 03 Yeah, they, they obviously wanted it to be just them, which I thought was so cute. Um, but no, I could, I could feel it when he went down, though.
27:19 Brooke Averick? Really?
27:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:20 Brooke Averick? And then?
27:21 Speaker 03 This is my best friend since I was like six. I could really feel it.
27:25 Brooke Averick? And then, like, when did you meet up with them? And was it at the same space, etc.?
27:30 Speaker 03 No, not the same space. It was at like this garden, um, beautiful garden. And then they came, actually, they actually went home, which I thought was sweet. They went home and that's when she got changed and got ready. And they like had a moment.
27:42 Brooke Averick? How did you know to wear a beautiful white dress?
27:43 Speaker 03 I had provided her with three beautiful white dresses and shoes and etc. So.
27:49 Brooke Averick? Oh, wait, like after she got engaged?
27:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:51 Brooke Averick? Okay.
27:52 Speaker 03 Not, not to like ruin the surprise. Like, she got engaged in her jeans,
27:55 Brooke Averick? Okay, I thought she was engaged.
27:56 Speaker 03 Jeans and Skims bodysuit.
27:58 Brooke Averick? Nice.
27:58 Speaker 03 Because she actually didn't know. And then I gave her dress options because she knew there was gonna be a party because she'd always ask for a party.
28:04 Brooke Averick? Wow.
28:05 Speaker 03 So then I saw her at the party for the first time. I asked someone to take a video of us like hugging and is my friend, a man, zoomed so far in to the left of us. So there's no like, he kind of missed the moment, but it's so fine. Oh, my God.
28:22 Speaker 03 Anyway. Then we, yeah, then we just got really drunk until 3 a.m. That's not gonna help the cat being drunk rumors, but, um, it was great.
28:30 Brooke Averick? Can you, we, I, everyone here knows that like cat being tow up is like an amazing bit.
28:36 Speaker 03 Amazing.
28:36 Brooke Averick? Are you able to speak on the, um, comments that you were getting on that one brand deal?
28:41 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah. I guess I just won't say the brand, but you know, I posted an alcohol brand deal. I'm like obviously responsible with my alcohol. And I guess most of the comments were just like,
28:57 Brooke Averick? This makes sense.
28:58 Speaker 03 Like this makes sense. Like, put the bottle down. Like, of course. Like, I can't remember. There were some really funny ones. Like, I don't remember the exact words, but just like in all in that, you know, in that category. And the brand shoots out an email to me that says, like, screenshots of all these comments, Tristan's being one of them, by the way. I don't know what Tristan's was. And they're like, these need to be deleted.
29:19 Brooke Averick? Like, our girl's back on the bottle in a pretty good way.
29:21 Speaker 03 Yeah, back on the bottle. Like, please put the bottle down. Like, just like insane.
29:26 Brooke Averick? We're worried for your health.
29:27 Speaker 03 We're very worried. So they were like, this is just like promoting irresponsible drinking. Like, we have to take these down. And I didn't see it till like a day later. And anyway.
29:37 Brooke Averick? And wasn't your manager like, no, it's a bit? And they were like, it doesn't matter.
29:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, my manager sent, um, actually clips from Not That Y'all Care to like, which I'm glad that she did to give some context of like, this wasn't just people saying I'm an alcoholic.
29:51 Brooke Averick? Right.
29:51 Speaker 03 Cause that's been an issue. Like, obviously there are people that don't follow me, or that don't follow B and C and Not That Y'all Care. I guess it's not really B and C, but maybe the episode they were on, um, whatever, to like, understand. Like, obviously there's a lot of overlap, but not every single individual. So I guess a lot of people just think I'm an alcoholic, which is fine. Uh, I don't, it doesn't matter. But yeah, they, my manager sent the clip and then they were like, is you still need, like, it's still bad luck.
30:19 Brooke Averick? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank you.
30:21 Speaker 03 But I'm glad they at least have the context.
30:22 Brooke Averick? Yeah. No, that was killing me.
30:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
30:25 Brooke Averick? Yeah, in an amazing way.
30:27 Speaker 03 Um, do you mind if I use the restroom really quick?
30:30 Brooke Averick? I knew that was coming. I could see you getting unsettled.
30:38 Brooke Averick? I knew it. Yeah, Kat, go ahead, baby.
30:43 Brooke Averick? Hey, Kat, welcome back.
30:44 Speaker 03 Thank you. Sorry about that.
30:46 Brooke Averick? All good.
30:46 Speaker 03 Not acceptable.
30:47 Brooke Averick? It is.
30:48 Speaker 03 No, it's not. No, I don't want anyone in there for about two to three months.
30:52 Brooke Averick? I'm just happy you're, you're happy and well.
30:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, I actually feel much better. Thank you so much.
30:56 Brooke Averick? Yeah, no problem. Are you watching the summer I turned pretty?
30:59 Speaker 03 No, they lost me.
31:02 Brooke Averick? When did they lose you?
31:03 Speaker 03 Um, you know, it doesn't feel like a show that I actually had posted a video saying like, I don't know if this is season one or season two being like, talking about the age I am watching the show being like, I love it and I'm 25, whatever, 26, I don't know. And the author commented and was like, kind of upset and she's like, this show is for everyone. Like, and I was like, I feel horrible.
31:25 Brooke Averick? Jenny commented?
31:27 Speaker 03 Jenny commented and was like, this post is like, I, I don't, she deleted it. Whatever she said, she deleted it.
31:34 Brooke Averick? Ooh, that's giving me a pit.
31:36 Speaker 03 Well, she, I think she was just trying to be nice, but like,
31:39 Brooke Averick? It came off sharp.
31:40 Speaker 03 I was like, I think she didn't like that I was saying like a joke about my age and watching the show. Cause she was like, it's for, the show is for everyone. The books are for everyone. But I'm like, I think my 12 year old sister's watching as well. I do feel like it's more for her.
31:54 Brooke Averick? A hundred percent.
31:55 Speaker 03 Yeah. So I just, I feel like I aged out of it. Kind of not that, I mean, everyone can watch and enjoy.
32:01 Brooke Averick? Different age wa- ages watch it for a different purpose. Like,
32:04 Speaker 03 I agree.
32:04 Brooke Averick? A 12 year old would watch it and be like, damn, this is like good shit. Like this is good shit. And we're watching just like, there's no way.
32:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, it just,
32:13 Brooke Averick? In an amazing way though.
32:15 Speaker 03 Yeah. To me, like, I would watch it with you, um, or, you know, any of our friends. Like, it's one of those shows, I like, want to be like hungover on a Sunday with my friends, like ordering a bunch of food and watching it all day. That's how I feel. I don't feel like I can like lock in in my house by myself on season three.
32:33 Brooke Averick? I couldn't do by myself. I've been watching with Sodi.
32:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:35 Brooke Averick? We just got all caught up.
32:36 Speaker 03 I get that. You know, I live far away.
32:38 Brooke Averick? Um, yeah, no, you live in a different city.
32:40 Speaker 03 How are you feeling as someone who is watching?
32:43 Brooke Averick? It's, it's definitely tougher than I'd like.
32:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:46 Brooke Averick? Kat, um, Jeremiah is a very hard character to, to stomach. For me.
32:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:54 Brooke Averick? Um, and just, most, I would say, most of the characters are, are pretty difficult. Except, really, except for like Conrad, who like, of course, has his flaws, but it just like, it's obvi- just like so clear. That like, she has to end up with him. I'm just like, let's just cut the shit and,
33:09 Speaker 03 Right.
33:09 Brooke Averick? And cut the shit.
33:10 Speaker 03 I agree. Yeah. I think I kind of lost any character that I gave a shit about. I think that's what happened to me.
33:17 Brooke Averick? Right. And also, I don't know how the books ended, but like, to me, it's like Conrad is the answer. Right? But like, how in good faith is she gonna
33:28 Speaker 03 Yes.
33:29 Brooke Averick? end up with uh, the brother of somebody she's been with for like five years?
33:35 Speaker 03 That's where, so I obviously know everything. It's not like I'm not watching clips.
33:40 Brooke Averick? You can't not.
33:41 Speaker 03 I know what's going on. So yeah, that's my thing. Like anytime it's sibling things, I'm like, there's no way out because even if you switch back to the other one, like that is, then it's, that's your brother in law. Like it doesn't.
33:54 Brooke Averick? Like, what are you gonna do?
33:55 Speaker 03 Like, you need to run away. That's the only way.
33:58 Brooke Averick? Yeah. And like, it was one thing when she was like dating Conrad for a bit of time and then went to Jeremiah.
34:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:04 Brooke Averick? But then to go back to Conrad after a, an engagement and a like five year relationship, that I'm not.
34:10 Speaker 03 I didn't realize they were together for five years.
34:11 Brooke Averick? What I, like four, maybe?
34:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, either way, it's crazy. Yeah.
34:15 Brooke Averick? What I think is going to happen is that everyone's gonna end up on their own. And then they're gonna pull like a kissing booth, which was like a three years later thing. And then Jacob Elordi sees Joey King with her unique haircut. And then just like the last shot is him like waving at her like, hey champ, like, and just like leaving, leaving it like open ended.
34:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, I guess that's, that's what they're gonna have to do.
34:39 Brooke Averick? They literally can't.
34:41 Speaker 03 I feel like I.
34:42 Brooke Averick? No one can end up together.
34:43 Speaker 03 I feel like it must be different from the book ending because I feel like that's something people would be. Or maybe not, I guess. You know what happened?
34:50 Brooke Averick? No, I don't know what happened in the book. I don't want to know.
34:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:53 Brooke Averick? But I do feel like this is the kind of show where they'll do a switch up.
34:57 Speaker 03 Yeah. Yeah. A little fast forward.
35:00 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
35:00 Speaker 03 There's nothing like a fast forward to write you out of something crazy.
35:04 Brooke Averick? Fast forwards to me can be a pretty big cop out.
35:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, I can see that. I, I kind of like it because I like, I really like when there's like a five years later thing at the end. I get really excited.
35:16 Brooke Averick? It's fine as an epilogue, but when they do it like mid, like when they did it with Pretty Little Liars, I'm like, y'all don't need to be doing this like mid show.
35:23 Speaker 03 Right. Now I agree with that. Um, yeah, I can't watch, but like I, you know, I support everyone.
35:31 Brooke Averick? No, I just wanted everyone to know that I am watching. I'm all caught up.
35:34 Speaker 03 I actually didn't know you were watching.
35:35 Brooke Averick? Yeah, I'm kind of quiet about it.
35:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, you are. Tristan and Janie are loud about it.
35:39 Brooke Averick? I like can't enter the narrative because people are so.
35:45 Brooke Averick? So passionate and cutthroat.
35:47 Speaker 03 Yeah.
35:47 Brooke Averick? That to me, I'm just like, it's not something that I'm, I'm willing to die on.
35:51 Speaker 03 I saw someone, I don't remember who it was, like getting canceled for being Team Jeremiah.
35:58 Brooke Averick? I feel like it was Drew.
36:00 Speaker 03 Yes, that's who it was.
36:01 Brooke Averick? It's like making me like, it's stressing me out. The poor girl is, she's Team Jeremiah. Love the girl. Don't get that. Still love the girl.
36:07 Speaker 03 But then she even, I think.
36:09 Brooke Averick? Which is fine.
36:10 Speaker 03 She responded and was like, wait, what? Don't give a fuck.
36:14 Brooke Averick? Literally, she's just having fun. And like, I just don't understand. Like, I see that and I'm like, whoa.
36:20 Speaker 03 But you know, at least you're, you're on the majority side. Like, you're Team Edward.
36:25 Brooke Averick? Yeah. See, that's what it is to me. It's like Edward's not a perfect guy. Like, he has, he definitely has flaws, but it's just like, you know Edward and Bella are supposed to end up together, right? That's what I feel about Conrad. It's just like, is what it is.
36:37 Speaker 03 It is crazy. Conrad's so Edward and.
36:40 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
36:41 Speaker 03 Jacob's so Jeremiah.
36:42 Brooke Averick? Completely. Except for Jacob. Jacob like is a good guy and like he deserved to be happy. Whether it was with, uh, Renesmee or not, up for debate, but he deserved to be happy. Jeremiah, I'm like, I don't, I don't feel that way about Jeremiah.
36:58 Speaker 03 I don't know, like, I just know he's, I just know he's kind of strange, but is he like doing bad shit?
37:03 Brooke Averick? He cheated on Belly in a pretty amazing way.
37:06 Speaker 03 Oh, cool.
37:07 Brooke Averick? In a pretty big way.
37:08 Speaker 03 So I didn't know that.
37:09 Brooke Averick? Yeah. No, he had, he did it. Well, it's like, were they or weren't they on a break type of thing?
37:14 Speaker 03 Okay.
37:14 Brooke Averick? He, they like had a fight and he thought they were broken up, slept with someone. And then she was like, wait, we were, what? Like, we were dating. And he's like, oh, I didn't, I didn't know that.
37:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
37:26 Brooke Averick? But even if you were dating, like just break up a few days later.
37:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, okay.
37:31 Brooke Averick? All right.
37:32 Speaker 03 Actually, I did see the clip now that you mentioned that. Right. I did see the clip of her saying to Con, or Conrad being like, what the fuck? You know that?
37:41 Brooke Averick? Conrad said, I didn't so much as look at another girl when we were together. Or, you know what? Honestly, since then. He didn't say that, but it's implied.
37:49 Speaker 03 Yeah. He loves the girl. You know what? He loves the girl.
37:53 Brooke Averick? And Jeremiah is getting like really like bratty and whiny. I guess he's always been, but like with, uh, he's, he was like freaking out about the specific type of cacao bean in their wedding cake. Have you heard that?
38:05 Speaker 03 No.
38:06 Brooke Averick? Oh yeah, that's a sound that's being used about him like freaking out about the cacao.
38:10 Speaker 03 Okay.
38:11 Brooke Averick? He's just a baby.
38:12 Speaker 03 Right.
38:13 Brooke Averick? A little baby, but I love it, Kat.
38:15 Speaker 03 Okay, well, I'm gonna go on the record as Team Conrad. I'm not watching the show, but I just don't wanna get canceled. Team Conrad.
38:21 Brooke Averick? No, that's fine. I do.
38:22 Speaker 03 Okay, great.
38:23 Brooke Averick? I'm trying to think of if I have anything to tell you from my weekend.
38:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'd love to hear about your weekend. Sorry, I forgot to ask Brooke.
38:31 Brooke Averick? No, I'm, I don't think anything happened. I finished my book.
38:36 Speaker 03 Okay, what book?
38:37 Brooke Averick? The one I'm writing.
38:38 Speaker 03 Oh, wait.
38:41 Brooke Averick? Sorry, that wasn't.
38:42 Speaker 03 Wait, Brooke, is this your first episode since you finished finished?
38:46 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
38:47 Speaker 03 Oh, we need to talk about that.
38:49 Brooke Averick? There's nothing even to say.
38:50 Speaker 03 No, this is the most, Brooke is the most annoying person to write a book. And I mean that positive connotation because anytime she sends something about the book, she'll send a text, whatever, and she'll be like, I'm so sorry, like last thing about the book. I'm so sorry. I'm being so annoying.
39:06 Brooke Averick? I am Michael Horrible.
39:06 Speaker 03 Anytime I bring up the book, she's like, it's so annoying. We don't need to talk about it anymore. Like you wrote a book and published it. It's like the only thing I wanna talk about.
39:15 Brooke Averick? I am being so fucking annoying.
39:16 Speaker 03 Brooke, it's the only thing I want to talk about.
39:19 Brooke Averick? No.
39:19 Speaker 03 I'm being dead serious. I talked about it at home so much with my family, like.
39:25 Brooke Averick? Very, very sweet.
39:26 Speaker 03 I just can't believe you're dying. Congratulations, baby.
39:28 Brooke Averick? Thanks. It's not full. Well, it has to go to copy edits, which I didn't know what any of this meant. But like, that means it's basically off for like getting like checked for like small little like grammatical and sentence structure thing.
39:39 Speaker 03 It's out of your hands. But so to me.
39:42 Brooke Averick? Yeah, well, then I have to review that. So I'll see her once more.
39:46 Speaker 03 You will see her.
39:46 Brooke Averick? I'll see her once more.
39:47 Speaker 03 But that's grammatical.
39:48 Brooke Averick? Yeah, kind of just like little things like.
39:51 Speaker 03 How was your final read through on the beach?
39:54 Brooke Averick? Good question. I was being the most dramatic. I had to sit by myself on the beach to do it.
39:59 Speaker 03 I get that. Like, I can't even read a book. Like, I can't focus on a book if I'm close to my friends.
40:04 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
40:04 Speaker 03 You can, like, but I can't without talking. So it's not dramatic.
40:08 Brooke Averick? I will say, this was, that was my first time, my first and last time ever reading the full thing altogether, because I worked on it in chunks. So it was always like, I'm just doing the first and then the second and then the third chunk. And so this was, I hate the word chunk, sorry.
40:23 Speaker 03 That's fine.
40:25 Brooke Averick? But I, like, at first, I was like, oh, my God, it's like watching yourself on camera, which I really struggle with.
40:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
40:33 Brooke Averick? Yeah, which I really struggle with. So for the first 120 pages, which were the ones that I've spent the most time with, I was like, I, this is tough. And then once I got past that, I was like, holy shit, like.
40:46 Speaker 03 This is good. Well, I think, like, we were trying, we talked about this a lot, but like, she wrote the first half a while ago at this point. So now she's obviously reading it with a more critical eye. But I have read the first half, pre edits as well. So probably a less, like, perfected version, and I loved it.
41:05 Brooke Averick? A lot has changed, Kat.
41:06 Speaker 03 I know, but I loved every second of that. So I'm just like, picked, like, you, I know you're being drama and like self critical because it's your writing. Yeah.
41:16 Brooke Averick? Yeah, totally. It's, it's me being horrible at marketing.
41:19 Speaker 03 Can I say that your, your book team told you to, told you to step back?
41:26 Brooke Averick? I was, yeah, I was spending too much time with the first 120 pages.
41:30 Speaker 03 They told her to take a step back. She kept changing things that were perfect.
41:34 Brooke Averick? You are gonna go ahead and make it worse. It got to that point.
41:37 Speaker 03 Which is a thing, I guess. And I'm not an author, but I've heard from Brooke and other people that that is a thing. Like, then you'll change it so much. But obviously, your first version was better.
41:45 Brooke Averick? Yeah, no, I had to take a step away from the first 120. And, you know, they're my, they're really my, I guess I care the most about them because I spent the most time with them. They're my child.
41:54 Speaker 03 Yeah.
41:54 Brooke Averick? And so.
41:55 Speaker 03 And it's the first thing that you wrote.
41:57 Brooke Averick? Yeah. And that's what sold it and everything like that. So, but, you know, it's, it's all good and it will be great. And there will be so much information that I can share so soon. But not yet, but so soon and I do have a cover.
42:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, I was about to, I didn't know what you want to say.
42:15 Brooke Averick? No, I don't, I haven't said.
42:16 Speaker 03 The cover is done. I personally love the cover. I know you love it too.
42:21 Brooke Averick? It's like so gorgeous.
42:23 Speaker 03 It's crazy because like you've had so many different cover ideas come in over the months. And this was the one I was always like, I really like this. And then at the very end, she added a detail where I was like, like I always loved it. And then you added one detail and I was like, it's done.
42:40 Brooke Averick? It completely cracked the mainframe.
42:42 Speaker 03 It did. It really did.
42:43 Brooke Averick? A mainframe cracker of a detail.
42:45 Speaker 03 And I like, for sure, like if you zoom in, you can see my hair. My hairs are sticking up completely. Because I just like, your book is going to be in Barnes and Noble.
42:56 Brooke Averick? It's gonna be in Barnes and shit like that.
42:58 Speaker 03 And also like, even if I didn't.
42:59 Brooke Averick? I wonder if it'll be in the airport. That's something I like, keep having like-
43:02 Speaker 03 We can make it happen.
43:02 Brooke Averick? Random little thoughts like that.
43:04 Speaker 03 What are those stores called again? In the airport?
43:07 Brooke Averick? Hudson News or whatever?
43:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, I want it.
43:08 Brooke Averick? I think they only do bestsellers there.
43:10 Speaker 03 Alright, well, I'm sure it'll be there then. Um, yeah, I want it in the Hudson News, pretty bad.
43:15 Brooke Averick? I want it there. I want it there.
43:17 Speaker 03 Um, yeah, it's also like, I feel like the cover is if someone didn't know you and like, want to buy this book already, like I would pick it up based on cover.
43:28 Brooke Averick? Yeah, that was, that's the goal.
43:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, that makes sense. From a selling perspective.
43:34 Speaker 03 It's really cute and I'm so excited. I haven't read the end, so I'm so excited to read the end.
43:38 Brooke Averick? Yeah, it went, so it's not like technically like all cleaned up yet because you know, it has to go through the copy edits. But early rounds have like gone out to like very early readers and I know that like an author that I, I love very dearly. Like it is in her hands right now. And like, I know that she's reading it. And so obviously I'm very nauseous.
43:57 Speaker 03 Is it who I think it is? Your girl?
44:00 Brooke Averick? It's my, it's my girl.
44:01 Speaker 03 Okay.
44:02 Brooke Averick? So that's making me sick and just shit like that. And so, anyway. Anywho, so what's, that's really it, I think, about that.
44:12 Speaker 03 I kept like, every time I was like, oh, the book is done. I was like, this day, the book is done. We need to sell a great book. And then it kept getting pushed and I was away.
44:21 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
44:21 Speaker 03 Frickin' away.
44:22 Brooke Averick? It really, it just flew, flew right under that finishing. It was really like kind of anticlimactic. I was just like, alright.
44:29 Speaker 03 How do you feel now?
44:30 Brooke Averick? Extremely depressed. Thank you.
44:32 Speaker 03 Okay.
44:33 Brooke Averick? Very, very sick and depressed.
44:35 Speaker 03 But you were working like 24/7. Does it feel nice at all to take
44:40 Brooke Averick? No.
44:40 Speaker 03 Rest?
44:41 Brooke Averick? No, it doesn't. I miss it so badly. I miss
44:45 Speaker 03 Oh.
44:45 Brooke Averick? I miss my best friend.
44:47 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:47 Brooke Averick? Phoebe Briere. Obviously, I'll see her again.
44:50 Speaker 03 You will see her.
44:51 Brooke Averick? She's forever with me.
44:52 Speaker 03 Probably like a good bit in the next couple of years. Um, seeing the first Phoebe edit.
44:59 Brooke Averick? Oh, that was
45:00 Speaker 03 I don't know if it was the first, the first that I've seen was insane to whoever that young woman or gentleman that made that.
45:07 Brooke Averick? Young woman on TikTok, she made like a vibe edit of like what she thinks the book will be like.
45:13 Speaker 03 Yup.
45:14 Brooke Averick? And she
45:15 Speaker 03 She kinda killed it.
45:16 Brooke Averick? Yeah, she, she did a great job. I do wonder, like, I, when I read it, I do not picture myself as Phoebe at all.
45:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
45:25 Brooke Averick? And there were pictures of like me in the edit and I wonder like
45:29 Speaker 03 Posted it.
45:29 Brooke Averick? if people will picture that. Cause I do not.
45:34 Speaker 03 I, I didn't really when I read it. Just be, just based on you being like, this is a separate human being. Like, I feel like maybe because people know you and love you, they might, like it's your book, just automatically pictures the main character, but I don't know. I wonder.
45:50 Brooke Averick? I wouldn't be mad about it.
45:51 Speaker 03 No.
45:53 Brooke Averick? At all. Y'all can completely do that. I would, I would, um, be completely freaking honored.
45:59 Speaker 03 Yeah.
45:59 Brooke Averick? But I just wonder what will be in people's heads. Something, something to think about.
46:04 Speaker 03 I, I feel like there are certain, there are certain parts that sound like you, obviously due to you writing it, that make it hard to separate. Like just cause it's your humor. So I think that, you know, there are definitely times where I'm like, this is Brooklyn.
46:18 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
46:19 Speaker 03 For sure.
46:20 Brooke Averick? Yeah, that'll happen, I guess.
46:22 Speaker 03 But I like it.
46:23 Brooke Averick? I can't wait for like people to fan cast it.
46:26 Speaker 03 Yeah, fan casting, like for me, when someone gets cast and hey, if it's you, then it's you. Like if you have a movie, once someone gets cast, then I can like switch my visual. That's how I am. But for now, it's like either, like I can't visualize characters. So it's like a blob in my head.
46:45 Brooke Averick? Same.
46:45 Speaker 03 Or you.
46:47 Brooke Averick? I've been doing blobs and then there's one side character who is just Tristan.
46:53 Speaker 03 It's all blobs.
46:55 Brooke Averick? It's all blobs and Trish.
46:58 Brooke Averick? Completely gorgeous, full portrait of Trish.
47:00 Speaker 03 Yeah, no, I'm kind of had that experience as well.
47:03 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
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48:04 Speaker 03 Oh my God, I cannot wait. I'm buying a Kindle just so she'll send me the electronic copy.
48:09 Brooke Averick? Who gives a damn about all this, seriously?
48:12 Speaker 03 Literally, who cares? I mean, it's not much.
48:16 Brooke Averick? It's not much, but it's on the work.
48:17 Speaker 03 But it's something, yeah, it's on the work.
48:18 Brooke Averick? I do want you to get a Kindle separately.
48:21 Speaker 03 Well, I'll get a Kindle to get your book delivered to me as soon as possible.
48:27 Speaker 03 And then maybe I'll use it for other things.
48:30 Brooke Averick? Like reading other books too?
48:31 Speaker 03 Maybe, other things.
48:33 Brooke Averick? I'd really like that. What else do you think we should talk about?
48:37 Speaker 03 I don't know, do you want to keep talking about Phoebe?
48:39 Brooke Averick? No.
48:40 Speaker 03 I do.
48:40 Brooke Averick? Like, what about it?
48:42 Speaker 03 I don't know, did you feel like, here, I just want to ask you book related questions. Did you feel like the end, wrapped up, post edits was like exactly what you wanted it to be and what you wanted it to feel like?
48:56 Brooke Averick? That's a great question, Kat, and I feel like I can't answer.
49:01 Speaker 03 Okay. Why do you feel like you can't answer? I don't want you to give anything away. How do you feel about it?
49:07 Brooke Averick? I feel great. I feel great about how it all ended.
49:11 Speaker 03 Like not about what the ending was, about like, how you felt about, you know, making it what you wanted to be. Does that make sense?
49:20 Brooke Averick? I feel really good.
49:22 Speaker 03 Yeah, cuz I just feel like if I was writing a book, that would be a really, really difficult part to end it. And like, you know, that's can make or break the whole thing. That's a lot of pressure and you feel great about it. So that's perfect.
49:33 Brooke Averick? Right.
49:34 Speaker 03 And your editors felt great about it as well, right?
49:39 Speaker 03 And we love the, we love the book girls.
49:41 Brooke Averick? I do wish like, I do have another book to write.
49:46 Brooke Averick? And I wish I like, I don't know if it will be like a sequel or not, or just a completely separate beast. I do wish I knew if like people liked Phoebe. You know, cuz then it's like, if y'all want more, I'll give you more. I'd love to.
50:00 Speaker 03 People will love Phoebe.
50:00 Brooke Averick? But also I could also do something sep- completely separate too, if y'all aren't into it.
50:06 Speaker 03 Oh my god, no, everyone's gonna fall in love with Phoebe for sure. But yeah, it is like, I don't know how people have the foresight to like,
50:15 Brooke Averick? Right.
50:16 Speaker 03 To be like, oh, this, this is all gonna happen, but then I want all of this to happen in the second book.
50:21 Brooke Averick? Right.
50:21 Speaker 03 I guess that probably comes with practice and stuff, but I also feel like you could do like a, I mean, I think people will love Phoebe and you can continue Phoebe's journey, or you could like go off of like, Yeah, I just like the universe things. Like characters are somewhat.
50:35 Brooke Averick? I'm sure it'll be something like that. I really do think that. Yeah. It's been amazing. And at the end of the day, it was over a year of my life, truly.
50:48 Speaker 03 Every day.
50:48 Brooke Averick? Doing that every day. So now.
50:50 Speaker 03 And even just like your thoughts every day as well.
50:52 Brooke Averick? Yeah. So when I woke up yesterday and didn't have to go to my computer,
50:57 Speaker 03 And talk to Phoebe.
50:57 Brooke Averick? Spent a pretty decent amount of the day in, in bed.
51:01 Speaker 03 That's fine. You deserve that.
51:04 Brooke Averick? And but in like a derogatory way.
51:06 Speaker 03 Okay.
51:06 Brooke Averick? In a way where John and Rob are like, are you okay?
51:09 Speaker 03 Yeah.
51:10 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
51:10 Speaker 03 But I think, you know, give yourself a couple of days to be sad about it. And then it's like, you have so much to look forward to.
51:19 Brooke Averick? Right.
51:19 Speaker 03 And then your writing journey is not even like, obviously your writing career is not over, but it's like, you also have a full other, you just have so much to look forward to.
51:26 Brooke Averick? This is the kind of thing where it's like, you know how parents are like, I won't be able to love my second child as much as my first.
51:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
51:32 Brooke Averick? Even though they always do end up doing that. That's how I'm feeling about another book. I should, like, I'm not selling my, like, I'm like, not selling my self well.
51:42 Speaker 03 That's not true.
51:44 Brooke Averick? Second book's gonna be horrible.
51:45 Speaker 03 No, but you're saying that you love the first book so much that like, you know, how could the second one live up? But that's the thing. You also thought your first one was gonna be horrible.
51:56 Brooke Averick? Did I?
51:57 Speaker 03 No, but you're, I'm just like, you were like, you're even reading it through and being like, it's horrible. Like, you're always saying that, but I'm like, no, the first one is great. And, you know, you didn't, you hadn't written a book before.
52:09 Brooke Averick? Right.
52:10 Speaker 03 So the second one will be great.
52:11 Brooke Averick? It will be great.
52:12 Speaker 03 It really will.
52:13 Brooke Averick? I do think I, I feel, I feel good. I felt good about my read through and shit like that and.
52:18 Speaker 03 Yeah, I should feel good.
52:20 Brooke Averick? And I can't wait for you to read it, Kat.
52:22 Speaker 03 I look forward to it. I'm gonna be sobbing my eyes out like a damn baby.
52:25 Brooke Averick? Ain't a whole bunch of nothing over here. But soon, I'm gonna be able to say a whole lot of something and I won't be able to shut up. So take this time, appreciate it for what it is, cuz it's, there's not, it's not going on for much longer.
52:38 Speaker 03 I think people wanna hear about it. So I don't think people are mad about us chatting about it.
52:43 Brooke Averick? Sweet.
52:44 Speaker 03 I can't believe it's off. You sent her off.
52:47 Brooke Averick? So the race is.
52:48 Speaker 03 She's gone. I miss her.
52:49 Brooke Averick? Yeah. Yeah, I do too.
52:52 Speaker 03 Yeah, but she's probably out there with everyone, so.
52:55 Brooke Averick? I'll be out there with everyone too.
52:56 Speaker 03 Oh, everyone's gonna love Phoebe.
52:57 Brooke Averick? Also thinking, obviously, so I'm gonna have to delete good reads in a pretty huge way.
53:03 Speaker 03 I can understand that.
53:06 Brooke Averick? I can't read negative comments about myself. And so I think reading negative comments about my book will actually be even worse. Cause this is like my kid.
53:13 Speaker 03 Right.
53:14 Brooke Averick? My labor of love that like I gave everything. Two, in the least traumatic way possible. And I know most authors don't look at Goodreads, but that's also really hard because I love Goodreads like as a consumer.
53:27 Speaker 03 Right.
53:29 Brooke Averick? But I do have to head off.
53:30 Speaker 03 Block a book on Goodreads?
53:33 Brooke Averick? That's a good question. No.
53:34 Speaker 03 Okay.
53:35 Brooke Averick? They shouldn't make that a thing though, for authors to be able to block your own book.
53:38 Speaker 03 Yeah. Cause I'd love for you to still be able to use it.
53:41 Brooke Averick? Use the platform.
53:41 Speaker 03 Use the platform. But I don't think, first of all, I think they're going to be overwhelmingly positive. I really do. But then of course there's like, you know, you know, people have opinions and shit like that and they're mean. So I would never want you to see that.
53:56 Brooke Averick? Well, this is what I was getting at is that I would rather, I think, I was thinking about this as I was falling asleep last night. Have a one star review and then a three star review.
54:07 Speaker 03 Interesting. Like at least someone felt passionate about it.
54:11 Brooke Averick? So strongly that you like, that there was substance there to hate. Like three, it's just like, meh. I'm just like, that is, that is not working for me less than hatred.
54:20 Speaker 03 That's interesting.
54:22 Brooke Averick? Cause the opposite of love.
54:23 Speaker 03 I get that.
54:24 Brooke Averick? Is hate.
54:25 Speaker 03 Right.
54:25 Brooke Averick? No, the opposite of, what is it? The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference or some shit like that?
54:30 Speaker 03 Yes.
54:31 Brooke Averick? That's what I'm talking about. Like, I'm not doing any three star reviews right now.
54:34 Speaker 03 Okay, we're taking fives or ones, but mostly fives because the ones will bring down the average. So we'll just do the fives for now.
54:41 Brooke Averick? You're right, Kat.
54:42 Speaker 03 Yeah. I think average wise, you'd take the three. But you know, for your personal self.
54:49 Brooke Averick? Y'all can do like, if like rate it three and then in specify in the review, hated one star. But just for average purposes. Now I should not talk about, I should not in this space, say anything about negative reviews.
55:04 Speaker 03 I don't think you should either. I really don't think that's.
55:05 Brooke Averick? It's gonna get, it's gonna be a big, it's gonna do great.
55:08 Speaker 03 It's gonna do so great. Anyone that has came into contact with Phoebe, by the way, has loved Phoebe. So I'm just saying.
55:16 Brooke Averick? Well, they've all been my best friends and family. I have to like, this is not, not selling myself.
55:20 Speaker 03 And like, whatever. Who gives a damn?
55:22 Brooke Averick? Who gives a?
55:24 Speaker 03 I'm gonna give it, I'm gonna download Goodreads to give it a five. I don't have it, but I'll have it. And that can start us out.
55:30 Brooke Averick? No, I'm being serious. Y'all will love it. Thank you.
55:33 Speaker 03 Yeah. Glad you said that.
55:35 Brooke Averick? Yeah, that's, that's the key. It's like, it's like very hard for me to not, um, I feel like guilty not speaking negatively about myself.
55:44 Speaker 03 That's, that's what I mean by like, she's annoying because she's overly humble about it.
55:50 Brooke Averick? It's not even that. It's like, I feel like saying something like, saying like, my book is good. I do, which I do feel.
55:59 Speaker 03 We don't talk like that enough.
56:01 Brooke Averick? Feels really bad. Like, like a nasty thing to say.
56:05 Speaker 03 Yeah. I think that's, that's the nature of how we operate as humans, our whole friend group. Like, I think we very much celebrate each other, but when it comes to like ourselves, we're, at least you and I, you and I cannot be like.
56:21 Brooke Averick? Can't do it.
56:22 Speaker 03 Like, this was really good. Like, I feel really good. Like, we'll just be like.
56:27 Brooke Averick? We'll be like, eh, whatever.
56:28 Speaker 03 I mean, it is what it is. And I'll kill myself.
56:31 Brooke Averick? Right. So it's, it's something for me to work on.
56:34 Speaker 03 I agree.
56:34 Brooke Averick? Especially, uh, cause I do want to, want people to buy it. I shouldn't say anything negative, especially because I, I feel overwhelmingly positive about it.
56:43 Speaker 03 I know. That's just, that's the crazy thing is you do feel really good and then you'll say out loud.
56:49 Brooke Averick? It's literally, I can't help, like, it's very interesting.
56:52 Speaker 03 Yeah. And then it's crazy because you got to do like press and genuinely talk next.
56:56 Brooke Averick? Like be on TV and be like, yeah, this is shit.
57:01 Brooke Averick? Even though I don't feel that way, that's just what has to come out.
57:04 Speaker 03 It has, it's what has to happen. Like, literally Brooke's gonna be on like a talk show and be like, I know you.
57:10 Brooke Averick? I know y'all will hate it.
57:14 Speaker 03 I wouldn't buy it if I were you. So just leave it on the shelf.
57:17 Brooke Averick? Yeah. So, um, yeah. So that will be something to work on. Y'all saw me work through that a little bit today. It's been amazing.
57:24 Speaker 03 Hey, we came through on the other side. So.
57:27 Brooke Averick? Everything like that. And thank you for having that conversation with me, Kat, about the book.
57:33 Speaker 03 You're welcome. I will talk about your book as much or as little as you want, but preferably as much.
57:39 Brooke Averick? Let's talk about Harry Styles for a second because here's what I'll say about Harry Styles. Absence makes the heart grow fonder until it doesn't. Like, there's such a thing as being too mysterious. Like, he has been too far gone for so long that, like, I don't even know who you are anymore. You know?
57:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
57:57 Brooke Averick? Like, I don't really, like, I'm, I'm finding myself not as invested as I usually am, because it's like, who, you're, you've become a stranger to me again. Which is probably what he wants, and that's amazing, that he's, he's gotten that from most people again.
58:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
58:12 Brooke Averick? Um, but yeah.
58:13 Speaker 03 I agree. Like, I haven't seen the guy in forever. Like, I haven't seen him before, I haven't seen him, you know?
58:20 Brooke Averick? He's done it right, because I think this is what he wants.
58:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, he wants to be able to walk around with Eddie Kravitz and not have these photos taken, but we're gonna take him anyway, baby.
58:29 Brooke Averick? He looks kind of, like, obviously, he's the most gorgeous guy that I've ever seen, but he looks kind of like a normal guy. Does that make sense?
58:37 Speaker 03 Uh, I like his outfit a lot. Like, I think he looks cute.
58:40 Brooke Averick? Well, no, I'm, like, he's to die for, but like, you, like, back in the day, like, One Direction, it was like, that is an, like, a
58:50 Speaker 03 Maybe, maybe we're just growing up. Does that make sense? Like, he was once a god.
58:57 Brooke Averick? God among men.
58:58 Speaker 03 He is still a god, but like, maybe he's also just a guy?
59:04 Speaker 03 That's so
59:04 Brooke Averick? You know, I really feel like Robert Pattinson is like, will always be a god.
59:08 Speaker 03 Okay.
59:09 Brooke Averick? Does that make sense?
59:10 Speaker 03 He, it kind of does.
59:11 Brooke Averick? He's just godly.
59:12 Speaker 03 He is godly. It's something about, like, and maybe this is just from Twilight, like, his skin, but then also the characters, like Batman, like, when I thought about, like, I love Suki Waterhouse, y'all know that, like, when I have seen her, I think about him being in the crowd, or I think about him being on the side backstage, and it, like, sends a chill down me.
59:34 Brooke Averick? Yeah, because I, I've been around, like, a pretty good amount of celebrities since I've moved to Los Angeles, California, and he, most of the time, I've been like, oh, wow, this is, there's, like, drop dead, but like, it is just a person at the end of the day.
59:49 Speaker 03 Right, yeah.
59:49 Brooke Averick? When I was with Rob, I did not feel that way. I felt, this is God. This is God, capital G. Like, this is not normal, like, the, what he's emitting.
1:00:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:00:00 Brooke Averick? Is, is
1:00:01 Speaker 03 The energy.
1:00:02 Brooke Averick? Greek godlike.
1:00:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, there's something
1:00:05 Brooke Averick? In energy.
1:00:06 Speaker 03 Non-human positive connotation from Rob.
1:00:09 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
1:00:10 Speaker 03 I will say.
1:00:10 Brooke Averick? Yeah.
1:00:11 Speaker 03 Like his child is like some, is like half god.
1:00:13 Brooke Averick? Exactly. But Suk to me, like, I haven't been around her, but like she is goddess.
1:00:19 Speaker 03 She is goddess. Like, if you've ever seen Suk perform in a similar Olivia Dean fashion, the fan is fricking blowing. She's got a fur jacket on, like, there's greenery everywhere. Like, she is doing goddess.
1:00:32 Brooke Averick? Speaking of fan blowing. Connor and I had an opportunity recently where we had to film something.
1:00:41 Speaker 03 I loved this opportunity.
1:00:43 Brooke Averick? And there was one scene in what we had to film where there is a fan blasting on us for a close-up shot. Okay?
1:00:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:00:53 Brooke Averick? And obviously, our reaction to the fan blowing on us was having this, like, extreme, like, like, knockback, like, whoa, like, like, whoa, we were just knocked down. And the director was like, okay, love that. But this time, like, hey, it's just a fan.
1:01:13 Brooke Averick? You know, like, you don't need to do, like, you're not being, like, hit by a truck. And we were like, okay, I think we hear what you're saying.
1:01:20 Speaker 03 We just saw your hair blown back.
1:01:22 Brooke Averick? Yeah, we're like, okay.
1:01:23 Speaker 03 Y'all, please stand up.
1:01:24 Brooke Averick? Got it. We think we hear you. Uh, action fan blows. I mean, we were getting knocked back further and further than we were before. Like, we couldn't grasp that, like, we weren't getting knocked down to the ground by this fan. Like, no matter, have you seen that SNL skit? With Fred Armisen and Zac Efron? That's like, I am your mother. And every time.
1:01:45 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:01:45 Brooke Averick? It's like, action, she gets worse and worse and worse. It was that. Cause like, every single time he called action and was like, just normal fan, hair's blown back a bit. We were tumbling.
1:01:58 Brooke Averick? Humbling backward.
1:02:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:02:00 Brooke Averick? So I'm excited to see how that scene of this project.
1:02:04 Speaker 03 Did you all ever get it together for that scene?
1:02:06 Brooke Averick? It's hard to say as that was
1:02:09 Speaker 03 Difficult.
1:02:09 Brooke Averick? The end of the day.
1:02:10 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:02:10 Brooke Averick? And it had been a long one.
1:02:12 Speaker 03 Mm hmm.
1:02:13 Brooke Averick? So there's a few things.
1:02:15 Speaker 03 Beautiful in your outfit.
1:02:16 Brooke Averick? That's very sweet, Kat.
1:02:17 Speaker 03 And your hair and makeup.
1:02:18 Brooke Averick? That's very sweet.
1:02:19 Speaker 03 Did you have a glam team?
1:02:19 Brooke Averick? I had a glam team.
1:02:20 Speaker 03 They did a great job.
1:02:21 Brooke Averick? For this opportunity.
1:02:22 Speaker 03 Beautiful.
1:02:22 Brooke Averick? Thanks, Kat. But I'm excited for everyone to see what this is. And there was also, I had a line that was literally as simple as like, hey, what's up, man? Couldn't get it. Could not get it. I mean, that must have been 120 takes of, hey, what's up, man? Like, I couldn't get, I couldn't find, I couldn't find the character.
1:02:43 Speaker 03 Yeah. Well, I think, was the character just supposed to be you?
1:02:46 Brooke Averick? Yes.
1:02:46 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:02:47 Brooke Averick? I couldn't, it kept coming out like, hey, man, what's up?
1:02:52 Speaker 03 Brooke's playing herself, goes into someone completely different.
1:02:56 Brooke Averick? And the director was like, hey, let's just do like casual.
1:02:58 Speaker 03 Hey, just be yourself.
1:02:59 Brooke Averick? Oh, okay, casual. Hello, my brother. Like, I could not, I could not do it. Yeah. And if there was, I think until this shoot, there was always like 1% of me that still maybe had that like childhood dream of like, being an actress.
1:03:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, I still have my 1%.
1:03:17 Brooke Averick? I feel like everyone has that 1%. I don't, it's gone.
1:03:20 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:03:20 Brooke Averick? After that, I think it's down to zero.
1:03:23 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:03:23 Brooke Averick? So it was a humbling and sobering experience.
1:03:26 Speaker 03 Yeah, I think I need to have an experience like that to take me down to zero because I know I'd be horrible at it. Like, I have to film brand deals and I, I do the same thing, like where I, I can't do the line.
1:03:37 Brooke Averick? No.
1:03:37 Speaker 03 And I'm like, I'm sitting here all the time in the world, no one's like paying me to be, like, I mean, the brand is paying me, but I'm not like on a set, no pressure, can't do it, so.
1:03:46 Brooke Averick? It really, I should post like a reel of like my outtakes doing brand deals. And I'm sure all of ours, it's like, it's completely.
1:03:56 Speaker 03 I'm fine if it's like natural in any way, but if it's, if I have a line, like of something like, God forbid, like scientific or something, I'm toast.
1:04:06 Brooke Averick? Oh, for me, I'm always like, hey, guys. Hey guys. Like, it's literally like eighty of those.
1:04:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's fun.
1:04:15 Brooke Averick? It's amazing. Well, Kat, I so appreciate you being here today. I know you did not want to be here.
1:04:22 Speaker 03 I enjoyed my time. It was fine.
1:04:25 Brooke Averick? Sorry for talking about my look.
1:04:29 Brooke Averick? It is amazing, though.
1:04:30 Speaker 03 It is so good, though.
1:04:32 Brooke Averick? Thank you.
1:04:32 Speaker 03 Not a problem.
1:04:33 Brooke Averick? It's amazing.
1:04:34 Speaker 03 I look forward to having it in my hands, as well as on my new Kindle.
1:04:38 Brooke Averick? Yes, Kat.
1:04:39 Speaker 03 Yay, Brooke. This has been fun. Thanks for having me.
1:04:41 Brooke Averick? Coming. Love you so much. See you in the bonus. Thank you.
1:04:44 Speaker 03 See you in the bonus. Nice.
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