Filling Our Cups w/ Lizzy McAlpine

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:19Speaker 00

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• 0:30Speaker 01

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• 0:54Connor Wood?

  I'm gonna eat as many of these as I can and then I'll stop and to the mic.

• 0:58Brooke Averick?

  You are so good. And not fried.

• 1:01Connor Wood?

  No, you couldn't.

• 1:02Brooke Averick?

  I made with avocado oil.

• 1:03Connor Wood?

  I did math when I was looking at this, by the way, because I was like, I could probably eat this whole bag. Five servings per container, one ounce. Guess how many ounces this bag is?

• 1:12Brooke Averick?

  How many?

• 1:13Connor Wood?

  Five. So you could eat. You could eat, you could eat five servings per bag.

• 1:19Brooke Averick?

  That's awesome.

• 1:19Connor Wood?

  It's avocado oil too, which my mom says is good.

• 1:21Brooke Averick?

  That's good and good for you.

• 1:24Connor Wood?

  I love avocado.

• 1:25Brooke Averick?

  They are really good.

• 1:27Connor Wood?

  No, it's fantastic. I like to stack too.

• 1:54Connor Wood?

  Hey, guys. Welcome back to Brooke and Connor Make a Podcast. If you can hear something in my voice, it's because you're right.

• 2:04Connor Wood?

  What you're feeling is right and it's true and it's honest. Um, we're back in the studio today in a huge way. Brooke's right here beside me.

• 2:12Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 2:12Connor Wood?

  And then beside Brooke.

• 2:13Brooke Averick?

  Beside me?

• 2:14Connor Wood?

  You'll never believe this. We have a very special guest today. My heart is so warm and my cup is so flowing, overflowing.

• 2:25Connor Wood?

  We have our close friend, Lizzy McAlpine here. Give it up for Lizzie.

• 2:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:33Brooke Averick?

  Yay.

• 2:35Connor Wood?

  That was good, right?

• 2:35Brooke Averick?

  That was good.

• 2:36Connor Wood?

  That was okay.

• 2:36Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 2:36Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 2:37Brooke Averick?

  That was good. I'm so excited you're here, Lizzie. I was, we were just saying, I have not actually met you.

• 2:41Speaker 04

  No.

• 2:42Brooke Averick?

  But you've met Connor a handful of times.

• 2:43Connor Wood?

  Yes.

• 2:46Connor Wood?

  And this is also, you said it earlier, this is, we don't have, we don't have guests on a ton.

• 2:50Speaker 04

  I'm so honored.

• 2:51Connor Wood?

  Yeah. We're saving ourselves from marriage. And this does, this does feel that way. So thanks for coming on. We're so excited to have you.

• 2:58Speaker 04

  Thanks for having me.

• 2:58Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I know you a lot more than you know me probably at this point. And I don't know if you know, like, we have like a very scary amount in common.

• 3:09Speaker 04

  Okay, like what?

• 3:10Brooke Averick?

  Like, I'm from the main line.

• 3:12Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 3:12Connor Wood?

  Philly.

• 3:13Speaker 04

  Where?

• 3:13Brooke Averick?

  No, she knows what that is, yeah.

• 3:15Connor Wood?

  No, but I don't know if everyone in Philly that's listening.

• 3:16Brooke Averick?

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Sorry, I was just talking to Lizzie.

• 3:18Speaker 04

  The suburbs.

• 3:18Connor Wood?

  My bad.

• 3:19Speaker 04

  The suburbs of Philadelphia.

• 3:20Brooke Averick?

  Suburbs of Philadelphia.

• 3:21Speaker 04

  Wait, what part?

• 3:22Brooke Averick?

  Marion Station.

• 3:23Speaker 04

  Oh my God.

• 3:24Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 3:25Speaker 04

  I used to live there.

• 3:26Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, me too. It's, yeah.

• 3:27Speaker 04

  Oh my God.

• 3:28Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, it's pretty nuts.

• 3:29Speaker 04

  That's so crazy.

• 3:30Brooke Averick?

  It's pretty nuts.

• 3:31Speaker 04

  Whoa, my parents just moved into the city from the suburbs, so we don't live there anymore, but that's crazy.

• 3:37Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I've never actually lived in the city, which is kind of a bummer.

• 3:40Speaker 04

  It's cool.

• 3:41Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. No, I lived in Manayunk for a second, but that's not really, yeah.

• 3:45Connor Wood?

  You know what's weird?

• 3:45Brooke Averick?

  What?

• 3:46Connor Wood?

  Is that it seems like half of the world is from on or off the main line.

• 3:50Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 3:51Connor Wood?

  And like Texas is like, I'm from Texas. And somehow I've never, I almost never meet a single person from the state of Texas, but somehow we run into.

• 3:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:59Connor Wood?

  An overwhelming amount of people from Ohio and just on or off the main line.

• 4:03Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 4:04Connor Wood?

  I don't even know what the main line is.

• 4:05Brooke Averick?

  What do you mean off the main line?

• 4:06Connor Wood?

  I don't, I just said it.

• 4:07Brooke Averick?

  The main line is like a suburb of Philly and it's called the main line because there's like a train that goes through it.

• 4:13Connor Wood?

  Well, if you're not on the main line.

• 4:15Brooke Averick?

  Then you could be.

• 4:16Connor Wood?

  It does insist upon itself that there would be off the main line.

• 4:18Brooke Averick?

  You're technically off the main line.

• 4:19Speaker 04

  I mean, everyone that's not on the main line is off.

• 4:21Brooke Averick?

  You're off the main line.

• 4:22Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 4:24Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 4:24Connor Wood?

  It's like on or off the wagon.

• 4:26Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 4:26Speaker 04

  Right.

• 4:26Connor Wood?

  I'm off.

• 4:27Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. And then I went to school in Boston too.

• 4:29Speaker 04

  Oh my God, where?

• 4:30Brooke Averick?

  BU.

• 4:30Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 4:31Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 4:31Speaker 04

  Berkeley.

• 4:32Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 4:33Speaker 04

  Crazy.

• 4:33Brooke Averick?

  Did you love it?

• 4:34Speaker 04

  Um, I was only there for two years.

• 4:36Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 4:36Speaker 04

  So I made a lot of friends.

• 4:38Brooke Averick?

  That's great. That's all, that's all you can ask for. That's all you can ask for.

• 4:42Connor Wood?

  You left in 2020, right?

• 4:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 4:45Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 4:47Connor Wood?

  Why?

• 4:48Speaker 04

  Um, lots of reasons.

• 4:50Connor Wood?

  Did anything happen?

• 4:50Speaker 04

  No, not, nothing big, just like, you know, COVID.

• 4:53Connor Wood?

  Yeah. Oh my God, yeah.

• 4:54Speaker 04

  Shut, shut us down.

• 4:56Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 4:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, it.

• 4:59Brooke Averick?

  Became an international superstar.

• 5:00Speaker 04

  We went online.

• 5:01Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 5:01Speaker 04

  And it was horrible.

• 5:02Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 5:03Speaker 04

  Because I was like taking songwriting classes over Zoom and I was like, is this really what I want to do for the next two years?

• 5:08Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 5:09Speaker 04

  Um, and my album was also like about to come out, my first one. So I kind of just was like, I'm just gonna leave and like bet on this and see what happens.

• 5:18Brooke Averick?

  That would have been wild to be in school while that album.

• 5:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was like the singles were releasing while I was still there.

• 5:25Brooke Averick?

  Was everyone like looking at you like?

• 5:27Speaker 04

  Not really. It was like the very, very beginning. It was just like, I was just.

• 5:32Brooke Averick?

  What was your first single that came out?

• 5:35Speaker 04

  I think it was "Apple Pie" from, from my first album, "Give Me A Minute."

• 5:38Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 5:39Speaker 04

  It's a deep cut.

• 5:40Connor Wood?

  God knew not to give me any singles to release in college.

• 5:44Connor Wood?

  That would have been like my.

• 5:44Brooke Averick?

  I didn't quite have a single.

• 5:45Connor Wood?

  I didn't release a single.

• 5:47Brooke Averick?

  Yet, yet, yeah.

• 5:48Connor Wood?

  Thing.

• 5:48Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 5:48Connor Wood?

  I didn't release a single thing in college.

• 5:50Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 5:51Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 5:51Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 5:52Connor Wood?

  Hats off.

• 5:53Speaker 04

  Thanks.

• 5:53Connor Wood?

  That's incredible. And now, okay, so this is what's confusing me because obviously you're here and you have an album coming out. It comes out in 50 days.

• 6:03Brooke Averick?

  Fifty days?

• 6:04Connor Wood?

  Fifty days.

• 6:05Brooke Averick?

  September?

• 6:06Speaker 04

  I mean, yeah.

• 6:07Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I guess.

• 6:07Speaker 04

  That's just crazy. I just have never thought about it in the amount of days.

• 6:10Connor Wood?

  So I know it comes out in 50 days because it comes out a week after my birthday.

• 6:15Brooke Averick?

  Oh.

• 6:15Connor Wood?

  And so that's what I've.

• 6:17Speaker 04

  Oh my God. Are you a Virgo?

• 6:19Connor Wood?

  I'm a Virgo.

• 6:19Speaker 04

  Oh my God, me too.

• 6:20Connor Wood?

  No way.

• 6:21Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 6:22Connor Wood?

  You guys might be college and main line, but I.

• 6:25Brooke Averick?

  Well, just you wait because I wasn't even, I wasn't even done with our.

• 6:28Speaker 04

  Oh my God.

• 6:29Brooke Averick?

  This is a competition of like who, who's close.

• 6:31Connor Wood?

  I'm gonna win. I was, I was gonna say, I calculated this because I did the Snapchat filter that said, your birthday's in. And yeah, and I'm way too old to be like, yeah, I was playing with Snapchat filters in bed this morning before I got up. Um, the two things I did in bed this morning, open Twitter, see someone die, get on Snapchat, see when my birthday is.

• 6:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:52Connor Wood?

  And then I calculated, I was like, oh my God, your album comes out a week after my birthday.

• 6:56Speaker 04

  Love that.

• 6:57Connor Wood?

  Virgos, which.

• 6:59Brooke Averick?

  So now you won't forget when your album comes out because it's a week after Connor's birthday.

• 7:02Speaker 04

  It's a week after September 11. It's, it's, um, three days before my birthday.

• 7:07Connor Wood?

  Let's go. Should we do a joint thing?

• 7:10Speaker 04

  We should.

• 7:10Connor Wood?

  We should.

• 7:11Speaker 04

  Oh my God, album release.

• 7:13Connor Wood?

  You wanna come, Brooke?

• 7:13Speaker 04

  Two birthdays.

• 7:15Brooke Averick?

  I'll, I'll sit this out, you guys.

• 7:18Connor Wood?

  Um, finish your.

• 7:21Brooke Averick?

  Well, I was just gonna say.

• 7:22Connor Wood?

  If we're going head to head here, I guess you're out.

• 7:24Brooke Averick?

  I was just gonna say, we're both Broadway girls and my, my favorite musical is "Next to Normal."

• 7:29Speaker 04

  Oh. Don't get me started.

• 7:31Brooke Averick?

  And then when I knew I was really in love with you is when I saw TikTok of you singing at LC Fest. You were singing "Next to Normal" with Rachel.

• 7:38Speaker 04

  I did, yeah.

• 7:39Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. And I didn't really, like, the world doesn't really know about LC Fest, which is like Broadway Coachella.

• 7:44Speaker 04

  It's, it's a kind of a deep cut.

• 7:45Brooke Averick?

  And that was the first.

• 7:47Connor Wood?

  The world may not know, and if you were to explain to the world, we all know.

• 7:50Brooke Averick?

  It's like Broadway Coachella.

• 7:50Speaker 04

  It basically is, yeah. It's a festival.

• 7:51Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, that Darren Chris puts on in New York. And that was my first time hearing about it and I was like, I, this, I have to, I have to get to this place.

• 7:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was kind of awesome.

• 8:00Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 8:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:01Brooke Averick?

  That's amazing.

• 8:02Speaker 04

  It's really fun.

• 8:03Brooke Averick?

  I, "Next to Normal," like, I told you about that one. Do you remember?

• 8:08Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 8:09Brooke Averick?

  Well, tell, tell everyone what it's about.

• 8:10Connor Wood?

  I mean, so it's basically, here's "Normal," right? And then just right off the main line, here it is.

• 8:19Brooke Averick?

  This is the one that has the, the plot twist.

• 8:21Connor Wood?

  Yes, the M. Night Shyamalan.

• 8:23Brooke Averick?

  Yes. Do you remember I was telling you about that?

• 8:25Connor Wood?

  Oh, hell yeah.

• 8:26Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 8:26Connor Wood?

  I don't want to spoil it for anyone that's about to see it.

• 8:28Brooke Averick?

  Don't spoil it. Don't spoil it.

• 8:29Connor Wood?

  So I won't say, but God, yeah. Wow, chills.

• 8:32Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 8:33Connor Wood?

  I have bone chilling.

• 8:34Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 8:35Connor Wood?

  Um, keep going.

• 8:38Brooke Averick?

  Was that, it's, okay, it was main line, Boston to "Next to Normal," musicals. Uh, really, really debilitating anxiety.

• 8:48Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 8:48Brooke Averick?

  But I feel like that's like a good, like, we have a really like good core.

• 8:52Speaker 04

  That's a solid foundation.

• 8:53Brooke Averick?

  I really agree. So I think that, I think that might be it. Do you have any?

• 8:58Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I have anxiety.

• 8:59Brooke Averick?

  Commonalities?

• 8:59Connor Wood?

  I have anxiety as well.

• 9:00Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 9:00Speaker 04

  Great, love it.

• 9:01Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 9:03Connor Wood?

  I am not honing my, I guess kind of in a way, when you're writing,

• 9:10Connor Wood?

  are you, is it coming out in, in your writing, do you think, like?

• 9:13Brooke Averick?

  That's a good question.

• 9:13Connor Wood?

  Yeah. Are you anxious about your writing? What are you anxious about?

• 9:18Speaker 04

  Am I anxious about my writing?

• 9:19Connor Wood?

  Tell us all.

• 9:19Speaker 04

  Not usually. Um, I feel like, yeah.

• 9:23Brooke Averick?

  Just pretend you're a warrior therapist.

• 9:25Speaker 04

  Because when I write, it's like, I use it kind of as my journal.

• 9:30Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 9:30Speaker 04

  To process things. So yeah, it definitely, it definitely comes out in there.

• 9:35Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. I wonder, like, I did that with my book and it was like kind of healing, like, do you?

• 9:39Speaker 04

  It's very therapeutic.

• 9:40Brooke Averick?

  Do you, yeah. Do you channel your anxiety into your stand-up?

• 9:43Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I do. And then people are like, oh. Like, it's not well-received. It's not cathartic. I'm like, oh, I need to like look into that one.

• 9:50Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 9:51Connor Wood?

  Right.

• 9:52Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 9:52Brooke Averick?

  I think stand-up is like a harder medium.

• 9:54Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I mean, I just did this joke over the weekend. It was, I was in Canada on Friday and it was for JFL, which is a big festival. And I was like, I'm gonna do this joke because I've been thinking about this thing. Do you watch The Hunger Games?

• 10:06Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 10:07Brooke Averick?

  Do you watch The Hunger Games? Yeah. You, you watching The Hunger Games right?

• 10:15Connor Wood?

  Maybe hadn't come across her desk yet. She's busy. She's releasing an album, but maybe she hasn't seen The Hunger Games.

• 10:20Brooke Averick?

  You're right, you're right, you're right.

• 10:21Connor Wood?

  Um, well, I was just sitting there in my bed in my hotel and I was watching it and I was like, I can't, I just can't believe that it took someone that long to think of

• 10:33Connor Wood?

  killing themselves, like, and I said that.

• 10:35Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 10:36Connor Wood?

  Seventy-five Hunger Games and no one was like, wait.

• 10:40Brooke Averick?

  You mean the berries?

• 10:41Connor Wood?

  I mean, just like, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna win, so what am I waiting for someone to kill me? No, let me just.

• 10:46Brooke Averick?

  We don't know what happened with the other games.

• 10:48Speaker 04

  That's true. We only know about a couple of them.

• 10:51Brooke Averick?

  It was groundbreaking that they did it at the end with the two of them.

• 10:55Connor Wood?

  Oh, you know, I hadn't gotten there, maybe that's.

• 10:57Brooke Averick?

  They had so many people before had jumped off the cornucopia and exploded.

• 11:01Connor Wood?

  Well, why didn't they turn off that feature? That's gonna, that's gonna put in.

• 11:04Brooke Averick?

  I think that's part of the entertainment for them, unfortunately.

• 11:07Connor Wood?

  Jumping off?

• 11:08Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 11:08Connor Wood?

  See, the thing about me is I'm ju- one, I'm jumping off, but two, I'm also, I think I could maybe like, be like, let's, let's just like wrap this up. I think I would have, I wouldn't have waited. I think that the announcers would have hated me so much because they would have gone off and be like, wait, wait, like, do ten minutes, you know?

• 11:25Speaker 04

  They would have just killed you then if they hated you.

• 11:28Connor Wood?

  That's true.

• 11:28Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 11:29Connor Wood?

  Okay, well, I didn't fully think out the joke, but that's not one of my anxieties, but I do think sometimes like, what would I do in The Hunger Games? Would I do that?

• 11:39Brooke Averick?

  I would hide.

• 11:41Connor Wood?

  And just wait?

• 11:42Brooke Averick?

  Pretty much.

• 11:43Connor Wood?

  But then they'd just like chop your tree down or send termites to eat you or something? Or would you not be in a tree?

• 11:49Speaker 04

  You gotta have a little bit of survival skills, like, you gotta, you gotta, because if you just hide the whole time, they're gonna like send things to you to get you out.

• 11:58Brooke Averick?

  I forgot I have a tracker.

• 11:59Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah.

• 12:00Brooke Averick?

  And I was gonna say like.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  Televised the whole time, so.

• 12:02Connor Wood?

  There's cameras on you.

• 12:04Brooke Averick?

  I forgot about that. Shoot. You think you would make it very far?

• 12:08Speaker 04

  Probably not very far, but I feel like I could like, get like, you know, halfway, maybe?

• 12:15Brooke Averick?

  That's really good.

• 12:16Connor Wood?

  How many people is there?

• 12:17Speaker 04

  Maybe not halfway, maybe just like, I just don't wanna, I just, I'm not really into killing people.

• 12:22Brooke Averick?

  No, yeah.

• 12:22Connor Wood?

  I'm not either.

• 12:23Speaker 04

  It's not really something that I'm into.

• 12:26Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 12:26Connor Wood?

  I really think I could like, change some people and be like, why are we, come on, like, let's just, let's hang out as long as we can.

• 12:33Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 12:34Connor Wood?

  And then it just wouldn't be entertaining. It'd be, it'd end up like, people would just switch to watching Summer House again, you know, like, they'd be like this, no one's, they're all friends here.

• 12:42Brooke Averick?

  You could connect people with your voice.

• 12:44Speaker 04

  Oh my god, so true. Like Lucy Gray.

• 12:46Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, exactly. That's exactly.

• 12:51Speaker 04

  You know who that is?

• 12:53Connor Wood?

  I didn't hear.

• 12:53Speaker 04

  Lucy, like Lucy Gray?

• 12:55Connor Wood?

  Yes.

• 12:56Speaker 04

  Who?

• 12:57Connor Wood?

  Okay, Mrs. Owl?

• 13:02Connor Wood?

  Over here. Oh god, well, I don't wanna wait, we only have so much time, we shouldn't, Lucy will have to have on when you come back. We can talk about Lucy.

• 13:09Brooke Averick?

  Good job.

• 13:10Speaker 04

  Right, right.

• 13:11Brooke Averick?

  How did we get to The Hunger Games?

• 13:12Connor Wood?

  I was talking about anxiety.

• 13:13Speaker 04

  Oh, oh, yeah.

• 13:14Brooke Averick?

  Oh, okay. That makes sense.

• 13:16Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 13:16Speaker 04

  It's a natural segue.

• 13:17Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, okay, that makes sense.

• 13:19Connor Wood?

  Yeah, sorry. Well, no, we were talking about how it comes out in our writing.

• 13:22Brooke Averick?

  Sure.

• 13:22Connor Wood?

  And what's funny is like, I didn't have anxiety about The Hunger Games, I had anxiety about writing that joke and then seeing how it was received. When I talk about my anxiety, I, I think it becomes a little more relatable because I don't have like, debilitating anxiety. I'm able to work through it, but what happens is I'll have like a out of body, like, beginning of a panic attack. I don't think I've ever had like a legitimate panic.

• 13:44Brooke Averick?

  You would know, yeah.

• 13:45Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I had to pull over my car one time and that was the closest I've ever been, but it was also because I was like, I'm having a panic attack and I'm scared I'm gonna like, there's so much pressure on me, I felt like I was gonna turn into like a raisin or a marble, you know what I mean? Like, like I needed to curl up and make my face small, but I was okay. But I don't think I've had a legitimate panic attack.

• 14:03Brooke Averick?

  It does feel like.

• 14:04Connor Wood?

  But I'm anxious about having.

• 14:05Speaker 04

  It feels like the world's ending, yeah.

• 14:06Brooke Averick?

  That's like, the anticipation of panic is like worse than panic almost, for a girl like me at least.

• 14:14Connor Wood?

  Yeah, no.

• 14:15Brooke Averick?

  How do you deal with like anxiety and doing what you do? Like, do you ever get stage fright?

• 14:20Speaker 04

  Every time.

• 14:20Brooke Averick?

  How, every time?

• 14:21Speaker 04

  I have literally never not gotten stage fright. Like, I think I, I've been talking, I was talking about this recently, but I think I might need to get on the beta blockers trend.

• 14:29Brooke Averick?

  I've, I started that.

• 14:30Speaker 04

  Because I, it's like truly, every time, it doesn't matter who's there, it doesn't matter what size the audience is, it doesn't matter what I'm doing, it doesn't even matter if it's my own show or not, like if I'm just coming to sing one song. I'm nervous. My heart starts to beat really fast, I get really shaky, and then my voice gets shaky, and then because of the adrenaline, my voice like is not normal, like it changes, it gets like weak, I can't really like sing the way that I normally can. And I'm, and usually if it's my own show, I can like move through it so that by the end of the set, I feel good again. But the beginning is always shaky.

• 15:09Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 15:10Speaker 04

  And I'm kinda like, I wanna start the set feeling good too, so maybe I need beta blockers.

• 15:15Connor Wood?

  I talked to my dad recently, it was in Toronto, actually, Canada again, and I was like, I am so nervous, and he goes, by the way, you, you are before every single show, I would be nervous if you weren't nervous before a show because it's part of your routine. And if you were out of wha- it's been, it's worked out, every time it's worked out, so it's like if you take out that like one factor, although it would be nice to not, it'd be nice to have nails that weren't at my cuticle level, you know, and like, not bite the insides of my mouth.

• 15:46Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 15:46Connor Wood?

  And my voice wouldn't crack, I'm too old to be going through puberty still, but it is part of the routine.

• 15:51Speaker 04

  I know, I kind of feel that, I'm like, I'm nervous, I'm just nervous because I feel like my body is so sensitive, that I'm like, I don't know how it would affect me, and I'm nervous to like not feel all that stuff, but, but then again, like, I don't think, I, I, at this point, I've come to the realization that I don't think the nerves are helping me at all.

• 16:10Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 16:10Connor Wood?

  Really?

• 16:11Speaker 04

  I think it's like, I would love to just get on stage and feel like comfortable and at ease, because that's when I sing my best.

• 16:19Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 16:19Speaker 04

  And like that's, every rehearsal is always great, and then I get on stage and I'm like, uh, and I'm like, why, why, why? I just wanna be normal.

• 16:28Brooke Averick?

  Why? Literally, why? Like, I've done this a million ti- right.

• 16:31Speaker 04

  Literally.

• 16:32Connor Wood?

  To be in fight or flight.

• 16:33Speaker 04

  Exactly, it's literally fight or flight.

• 16:35Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 16:36Speaker 04

  I mean, it kind of makes sense because like, I just, it's just the being perceived.

• 16:41Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 16:42Speaker 04

  It's just so tough sometimes.

• 16:43Brooke Averick?

  It's so hard.

• 16:45Speaker 04

  Even though that's my job and it's what I signed up for, and I, I love it most of the time, but then it's just like looking out and seeing faces of people who are like, all eyes on you.

• 16:56Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 16:56Speaker 04

  They're there for you, and I'm like, oh god, like, what, I can't, I can't.

• 17:02Brooke Averick?

  What I can't is like when someone is like, I traveled for this.

• 17:05Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 17:06Brooke Averick?

  And I'm like, well, uh, well, like, what if, like, what if I can't like live up to like what you traveled for? Like, that is when I like get really freaked out, but do you feel like there's like a certain point in your show where you're like, okay, I'm fine now? Is it like after the first song?

• 17:23Speaker 04

  It's like the first couple, it's like the first three songs maybe, and then it's just pure adrenaline.

• 17:28Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, yeah, maybe a beta blocker.

• 17:30Speaker 04

  I, I think I need to try them. How, how is your experience?

• 17:35Brooke Averick?

  I just, I think my thing is just like, I'm so scared of panic, that like, I'm so scared that the beta blocker is gonna somehow have an adverse effect on me.

• 17:44Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 17:44Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, so I don't know that it's helping. I definitely noticed that my heart rate is slower.

• 17:50Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 17:51Brooke Averick?

  But then I'm like, my heart rate is slower.

• 17:53Speaker 04

  See, that's what I think would happen. I'm like, my body would be like too relaxed, and I'd be like, so there's something, there's something wrong, like, I like about to pass out.

• 18:02Brooke Averick?

  Like, this isn't my natural state, which I'm not, so it's like you, it's a lose, lose, lose, pretty much.

• 18:08Speaker 04

  Okay, so then maybe it wouldn't help me, I think, cause then I would just fixate on like all of, I think, I feel like I would then just be perceiving my body like way more.

• 18:16Brooke Averick?

  Exa- that's my problem.

• 18:17Speaker 04

  I would just be like really, yeah.

• 18:20Brooke Averick?

  I've been taking them not, like, just during the day to try to like, cause I'm doing something in a week that I haven't slept in like a month, because I have something that I'm really nervous for in a week, so I've been training myself with the beta blockers and just like seeing what it's like.

• 18:34Speaker 04

  That's what I thought I should do.

• 18:36Brooke Averick?

  Taking them not before the big day, and I think that I'm not gonna take them for

• 18:41Speaker 04

  Okay, wow.

• 18:42Brooke Averick?

  For the big day, because I think it's just gonna make me freak out even more, but I'm still practicing with my beta blocker, so I don't, I don't really know yet.

• 18:50Speaker 04

  I think I would, I would need to practice as well, because I feel like every, it just like, if there was gonna be an adverse reaction, like, it would happen to me.

• 18:59Brooke Averick?

  It would happen to me and it would happen on live television, so.

• 19:02Speaker 04

  Exactly, like, that just would, that just, that stuff happens to me.

• 19:05Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

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• 20:06Speaker 04

  Like, I got a colonoscopy recently.

• 20:08Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Oh, how was it?

• 20:10Speaker 04

  It was awesome, Loki, but I was really nervous.

• 20:14Brooke Averick?

  How was the prep?

• 20:15Speaker 04

  It wasn't that bad.

• 20:17Brooke Averick?

  Really?

• 20:17Speaker 04

  It really wasn't that bad, except I opted for the pills instead of the drink at first. Because I was like, I'm, I think I would just vomit.

• 20:25Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 20:26Speaker 04

  If I had to drink the thing. And then I took the pills. I took like the first round. And then I was like, oh, I'm feeling like kind of weird. And then I looked down at my body and I have like a rash on my knees, on my feet, on my hands. I was like, oh, great. Um, so then I started to panic. And then I was like, oh, my God, am I going into anaphylaxis?

• 20:47Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 20:47Speaker 04

  Do I need to like, go to the ER? Um, and then I just took a Benadryl and it was fine, but, but like, of course that would, that would happen to me.

• 20:55Brooke Averick?

  Rashes scare the shit out of me.

• 20:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:57Brooke Averick?

  Cause it's like, use your words. Like, what are you trying to tell me? Like, I know you're trying to tell me something.

• 21:02Speaker 04

  I know. Really, really, and it's like, not even, I don't think the ingredients in those pills are like that crazy. Like, I, I don't know. I was like, of course this would happen to me. And then I had to do the drink for the second round.

• 21:15Brooke Averick?

  Oh, you did?

• 21:16Speaker 04

  I just did like Gatorade and the laxative, Miralax.

• 21:19Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I thought it was like, I was thinking of like a white chalky thing.

• 21:22Speaker 04

  The, I think the one that they prescribe you

• 21:24Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 21:24Speaker 04

  is like a jug of just like gross cloudy water thing.

• 21:30Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 21:31Speaker 04

  And I said no to that one.

• 21:32Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 21:33Speaker 04

  The Gatorade and the Miralax wasn't that bad. It was pretty bad.

• 21:36Brooke Averick?

  I'm surprised it's just Miralax.

• 21:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:39Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 21:39Speaker 04

  It was.

• 21:40Brooke Averick?

  I like worry like there wouldn't be a difference between like my everyday and, and me chugging, chugging the white.

• 21:46Speaker 04

  No, it is, it's different.

• 21:48Brooke Averick?

  It hits different.

• 21:48Speaker 04

  Coming from a girl who has IBS, it's different.

• 21:50Brooke Averick?

  Another commonality.

• 21:51Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 21:52Brooke Averick?

  Another link.

• 21:54Brooke Averick?

  How was the actual colonoscopy? If you don't mind me, if you don't mind me.

• 21:57Speaker 04

  No, no, I, I, I loved it. Because they just like put you under and it feels so good.

• 22:03Brooke Averick?

  That was.

• 22:04Connor Wood?

  Sorry. Colonoscopy is camera.

• 22:07Brooke Averick?

  Camera up your butt.

• 22:08Connor Wood?

  Camera up your butt. Okay, cool.

• 22:09Speaker 04

  But I'm like.

• 22:10Connor Wood?

  What were their findings?

• 22:12Speaker 04

  Nothing.

• 22:12Connor Wood?

  That's great.

• 22:13Brooke Averick?

  Awesome.

• 22:13Speaker 04

  Absolutely nothing. But it was really like, I have IBS and I've had stomach issues for my whole life, basically. And I am also gluten free and I say, I think I have celiac. Um, but it's mostly like anxiety for me. And I think my anxiety really triggers my IBS.

• 22:30Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 22:30Speaker 04

  And so I really got it because I needed peace of mind. And it gave me that. And then afterwards it like, it was like a 180. It was amazing. I was like, this is awesome now. This is how a normal person is supposed to feel.

• 22:44Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. I think I'm gonna, I wanna, there's a part of me that wants to do one of those full body scans.

• 22:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:50Brooke Averick?

  And a part of me that's

• 22:51Speaker 04

  Same.

• 22:52Brooke Averick?

  That is like, I can't. So I'm, I'm really walking that line.

• 22:56Connor Wood?

  We, we talked to that, you know, that company that's like working with influ, like influencers and stuff?

• 23:01Speaker 04

  Novo or whatever? Yeah.

• 23:02Connor Wood?

  They finally messaged, they messaged you too, right?

• 23:05Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. And I said I would do it and then I chickened out.

• 23:07Connor Wood?

  I was full blown talking to them back and forth. I was like, I really thought I wanted to, but I don't want to know. And they go, wouldn't you rather, if there is something in there, get ahead of it? And I was like, no, I don't want to know. I don't want to know.

• 23:19Speaker 04

  I swing between those two as well.

• 23:20Connor Wood?

  But what a feeling.

• 23:21Speaker 04

  Because also I feel like

• 23:23Connor Wood?

  No.

• 23:24Speaker 04

  They can find, like, I guess the scans can find things that like, aren't, aren't like malignant, that, that, but then they're like, you have to check them out anyway. And that would scare me.

• 23:35Brooke Averick?

  Yes.

• 23:36Speaker 04

  Cause I feel like, what if they found like a, a little thing that was benign, but then they were like, we don't know what it is. We have to test it. And I'm like, what if it's, what if it's bad? I just can't, I just, I don't want to put myself through that.

• 23:46Brooke Averick?

  I know. I know. It's.

• 23:47Connor Wood?

  Now, now that you said it and I didn't say it out loud, wouldn't it be better to get it out? Belligerent? Is that, it sounds like.

• 23:54Speaker 04

  Malignant and benign.

• 23:55Brooke Averick?

  Malignant and.

• 23:56Connor Wood?

  What if they find a malignant?

• 24:00Speaker 04

  I mean, like, I guess, but like, I got a, I had to get an ultrasound on my thyroid when I was in high school. Cause they had, they found like a little nodule, but it was benign. So like, what if they found that? And they're like, we need to do more testing. And I'm like,

• 24:13Brooke Averick?

  I guess I would rather know.

• 24:15Speaker 04

  I mean, same, but I just don't think I could really work myself up to that point.

• 24:19Brooke Averick?

  I know. It's getting in the machine. Or it's driving there.

• 24:22Speaker 04

  And then just like the waiting, just the thinking, just the thinking about,

• 24:27Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 24:27Speaker 04

  what if, what if?

• 24:29Connor Wood?

  Waiting on results.

• 24:30Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 24:31Connor Wood?

  Jinkies, scoops, not gonna work.

• 24:35Brooke Averick?

  No, I do think I'll end up doing it eventually, but I need time.

• 24:38Connor Wood?

  I'll do it with you.

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Take a bit of a walker.

• 24:40Brooke Averick?

  So the last time we had said we were gonna do it together, I had said yes, cause you had said you were gonna say yes. And then you had responded no, after I had already said yes.

• 24:49Connor Wood?

  Okay. So think, like a lot has changed in my, in my personal.

• 24:52Brooke Averick?

  What has changed?

• 24:52Connor Wood?

  Just like my vibe.

• 24:53Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 24:53Connor Wood?

  So I think that I would like to do it now.

• 24:55Speaker 04

  Oh, wow. Okay. Well, if you guys do it, if you guys do it, then please let me know.

• 24:59Brooke Averick?

  Okay, let's do it.

• 25:00Speaker 04

  Cause then maybe I'll do it after you guys.

• 25:01Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 25:01Connor Wood?

  We go.

• 25:02Speaker 04

  We all go together?

• 25:05Brooke Averick?

  I want a human centipede in the tube.

• 25:07Connor Wood?

  Come on, you guys. Summer's almost over.

• 25:09Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 25:11Brooke Averick?

  That sounds really good. Yeah. Fall's the perfect time to do a full body scan.

• 25:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:14Connor Wood?

  It is. And we head home for the winter.

• 25:17Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 25:18Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Spring and the summer is about when they do those, those pre, pre, pre newvos.

• 25:23Connor Wood?

  Um, I listened to your new single.

• 25:27Brooke Averick?

  Oh.

• 25:27Connor Wood?

  Wait, do you call it a single if it's on an album that's, are you releasing more singles leading up to the full release? Oh, we don't know.

• 25:35Brooke Averick?

  It's a surprise.

• 25:36Connor Wood?

  Okay. Just like my pre newvo scans.

• 25:38Speaker 04

  It's a single.

• 25:39Connor Wood?

  It'll be, I released my single. It's like my full results of my pre newvo.

• 25:44Connor Wood?

  Coming out the same day as your albums. All right, competition.

• 25:48Connor Wood?

  Pre save my pre newvo scans.

• 25:50Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 25:52Brooke Averick?

  That would be fun to put behind the paywall. For the bonus episode this week, we're just gonna do.

• 25:57Connor Wood?

  The results of Lizzie's colonoscopy.

• 26:01Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 26:02Connor Wood?

  It's benign. Um, okay.

• 26:05Connor Wood?

  Swearing.

• 26:07Connor Wood?

  I listened to Light in the Painting about 400 times.

• 26:11Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 26:12Connor Wood?

  I've listened. I'm currently listening. It's on in my head right now. It is so damn good.

• 26:17Speaker 04

  Thanks.

• 26:18Connor Wood?

  And like, I find myself listening to you and going into a space that like, very few artists put me in. It's almost like, you know, when you turn a shark over on its back and it like rarely happens, they go into a tonic state where they're aware.

• 26:33Brooke Averick?

  A tonic state?

• 26:34Connor Wood?

  A tonic state.

• 26:35Brooke Averick?

  Catatonic?

• 26:36Connor Wood?

  No, I think it's just tonic.

• 26:38Brooke Averick?

  I don't know.

• 26:39Connor Wood?

  It's catatonic, you think?

• 26:41Brooke Averick?

  I don't know about tonic.

• 26:42Connor Wood?

  So they go into this catatonic state, which is, I was shortening it cause I'm, I just, it takes forever to say.

• 26:47Brooke Averick?

  Sure.

• 26:48Connor Wood?

  So they go into this catatonic state where they're aware of their surroundings, but they're kind of like out of body in a way. That is what your music does to me.

• 26:58Speaker 04

  Oh, my God, love.

• 26:58Connor Wood?

  This song was so different in feel. And you can tell me why, but I read some comments on the YouTube video. And it was like, oh my God, Lizzie's releasing like joyous music. Is this a recession indicator? Music full of joy. It's exuding this light. It really is.

• 27:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 27:20Connor Wood?

  And I feel it. And then I watched the music video and I was like, oh my God.

• 27:23Brooke Averick?

  Hard launch.

• 27:24Connor Wood?

  This is like pretty much what I was picturing when I was listening. Yeah, hard launch.

• 27:27Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Congrats.

• 27:28Connor Wood?

  Congrats.

• 27:29Brooke Averick?

  We are, we're really happy for you.

• 27:33Connor Wood?

  There's a lot of yearning and this is like,

• 27:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 27:37Connor Wood?

  Yearning found. Like I found what I was yearning for. Am I right? Or did I make that up?

• 27:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean.

• 27:43Connor Wood?

  Am I close?

• 27:44Speaker 04

  I think, I think so.

• 27:45Connor Wood?

  Am I on the main line?

• 27:46Speaker 04

  It's, you might be. I like, you know, people having their own interpretations of, of the songs and whatever it means to you. So that is correct.

• 27:55Brooke Averick?

  Well, I love that.

• 27:56Connor Wood?

  Yes.

• 27:56Speaker 04

  You know?

• 27:57Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Connor's been really loving analyzing things and symbolism. Tell her about the symbolism you found in, in the music video.

• 28:03Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 28:04Brooke Averick?

  I actually really thought it was beautiful.

• 28:06Connor Wood?

  Oh, really?

• 28:06Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. You know, you're saying about it being on her.

• 28:08Connor Wood?

  Yeah. If you, if you guys watched the music video.

• 28:10Brooke Averick?

  So he's gonna explain your own music video to you right now.

• 28:14Connor Wood?

  She, she said it exact, like, it's cool to see other people's interpretation.

• 28:18Speaker 04

  It is, yeah.

• 28:19Connor Wood?

  She's gonna be like, so that's not what I was thinking. And I created a bracket. So in the video, it's a lot, it's, it's very focused on you. And you're kind of focused on him. So it's almost like this triangle.

• 28:32Speaker 04

  Mm hmm.

• 28:33Connor Wood?

  And you're in this desert.

• 28:37Connor Wood?

  Which is usually a barren land, but there's so much light and it doesn't feel that way. And it's just you two there and it's like solace in that way. Like you found, I found this oasis.

• 28:48Brooke Averick?

  I was about to say oasis.

• 28:49Connor Wood?

  Oasis, come on.

• 28:52Connor Wood?

  Thoughts?

• 28:53Speaker 04

  I love, I love that.

• 28:54Connor Wood?

  Yeah?

• 28:55Speaker 04

  That's like, yeah, that's great. Cause I, when we were making the video, I really wanted it to be like, yeah, focused on me. Because I, I feel like, like, yes, it is about the relationship. But I feel like this song and this album also are very much about like, me coming back to myself through all of these things, like through this relationship and through a heartbreak and through friendship and community and all these things like that, those things are how I found myself again and how I like came back down to, to the earth and centered myself. And so, yeah, I wanted the video to like, kind of represent that.

• 29:39Connor Wood?

  The line, "Meet me where I've been."

• 29:43Speaker 04

  Meet me where I've always been.

• 29:43Connor Wood?

  Always been, sorry, I'll go.

• 29:45Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 29:47Connor Wood?

  It was close, "Meet me where I've always been."

• 29:49Speaker 04

  The same concept.

• 29:50Connor Wood?

  Yeah, that was chills. That's my favorite line, "Meet me where I've always been." And that was kind of like this, I found it. But you, but I've been found too.

• 30:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:02Connor Wood?

  By yourself and this young man who, he must be pretty tall, cause you're pretty tall.

• 30:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:08Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 30:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:09Connor Wood?

  It's awesome.

• 30:09Brooke Averick?

  You mind if I get deep for a second?

• 30:11Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 30:12Brooke Averick?

  I just, I have learned recently, and I feel like there's always this like idea that like you have to love yourself before somebody else can love you. But now I think people are really understanding that like you can learn to love yourself more through seeing how somebody else loves you.

• 30:29Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 30:29Brooke Averick?

  And that is kind of what my, my big takeaway.

• 30:31Speaker 04

  That is a hundred percent. That is what I wrote the song about like two years ago. And that's what, yeah, that, that's like the whole vibe of the song and of the album. It's like, I, I was seeing this person like right after a breakup.

• 30:46Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  And I was like, it was like a complete 180 from, from the, my past, my last relationship. And I was like, oh my God, like I, like when he would say that I was beautiful, I like actually believed him this time. I was like, oh my God, I can like, I can see that in myself now, like through

• 31:05Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 31:06Speaker 04

  this thing that we are building, you know? It was like, it was, it was very healing.

• 31:12Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 31:12Speaker 04

  It was a very healing experience for me.

• 31:14Brooke Averick?

  That's beautiful. I think we got As.

• 31:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, you guys really did a good job.

• 31:18Connor Wood?

  That's exactly the vibe that I was going for. I got that, well, that is one way.

• 31:21Speaker 04

  No, no, that was what I wanted.

• 31:23Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 31:24Connor Wood?

  No, no, no.

• 31:24Speaker 04

  So she wanted you and then you're focused on him and that's like.

• 31:27Connor Wood?

  I have PTSD because there was a time in that one class that after I had, they had announced that there were no stupid questions after I had answered, or after I had asked a question. Remember that?

• 31:38Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, and you know, remember my teacher wrote Brooke's idea on the board and then said, what does everyone think? And then crossed it out with a red X.

• 31:45Connor Wood?

  So we both have that.

• 31:45Brooke Averick?

  So we have, okay. We do need, we need validation.

• 31:48Connor Wood?

  These things we carry.

• 31:49Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 31:50Connor Wood?

  With us.

• 31:51Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 31:53Speaker 04

  Great job.

• 31:54Brooke Averick?

  Sorry.

• 31:54Connor Wood?

  No, it's fine.

• 31:55Brooke Averick?

  All you, it's all you.

• 31:56Connor Wood?

  No, I really want to give it to you.

• 31:57Brooke Averick?

  Well, I was just gonna, I was gonna say, you, can we, you want to talk about Broadway?

• 32:02Speaker 04

  I'd love to talk about Broadway.

• 32:03Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I like to listen, I'll, I'll just ask questions.

• 32:06Brooke Averick?

  I want you.

• 32:06Connor Wood?

  I'm gonna sit my ass down and listen.

• 32:08Brooke Averick?

  No, I want you to be involved because I, I love Broadway and he is someone, the first conversation that I had with Connor ever in 2020. I remember this. He was like, what are you doing? And I was like, oh, I'm watching Rent. And he said, is that a show on Home and Garden? And so that's when I kind of, H G, okay, sorry, forgive me. And so that's when I kind of realized like this, there are different kinds of people and he's one of them. And so part of this podcast has really been learning about each other's interests. And I would like to think that you've learned like a good bit about Broadway.

• 32:47Connor Wood?

  Yeah, if I were to talk to me in that conversation now, I'd be like, oh.

• 32:52Brooke Averick?

  What would you tell?

• 32:53Connor Wood?

  Walk with me, friend.

• 32:54Brooke Averick?

  What would you tell him?

• 32:55Connor Wood?

  Rent is a play.

• 32:58Brooke Averick?

  Kinda, yeah. Yeah, do you know who wrote it? You do?

• 33:02Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I do.

• 33:02Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, you do.

• 33:03Connor Wood?

  Jonathan.

• 33:04Speaker 04

  Yes?

• 33:04Brooke Averick?

  He's so amazing. Which one?

• 33:07Connor Wood?

  Crap, there's like 15. Hang on. Not Bailey.

• 33:11Speaker 04

  Nope.

• 33:12Connor Wood?

  Not Anderson, that's Dior.

• 33:14Brooke Averick?

  You know, you, you know it 100%.

• 33:16Speaker 04

  You want the first letter or no? You wanna, you wanna think of it by yourself?

• 33:21Connor Wood?

  Not Jonathan. John Jacob Jingleheim and Smith. His name is my name too.

• 33:28Connor Wood?

  Smitty, Oregon, Weber, Menchison. He was number one.

• 33:31Brooke Averick?

  Do you want the first letter?

• 33:32Connor Wood?

  Yeah, please.

• 33:33Brooke Averick?

  Oh.

• 33:35Brooke Averick?

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 33:43Connor Wood?

  Come on, I know this and he's dead.

• 33:45Brooke Averick?

  Well, yeah, and you know the story of what happened.

• 33:47Connor Wood?

  Yes.

• 33:47Brooke Averick?

  Yes.

• 33:50Connor Wood?

  God, and you know it. I can do it. If I saw a picture of him, it would come, it would all come back to me.

• 33:55Brooke Averick?

  I don't think you've ever seen a picture.

• 33:56Connor Wood?

  Yes, cause it's in black and white.

• 33:58Brooke Averick?

  Good job.

• 33:59Connor Wood?

  Yeah, cause he's from the past.

• 34:00Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 34:00Connor Wood?

  I'm trying to think.

• 34:01Brooke Averick?

  Well, Pete, there was color imagery as well available in the nineties, but I do know the black and white. I, I know that one you're referring to. Is that helping you?

• 34:09Connor Wood?

  Yes, it is.

• 34:09Speaker 04

  It is.

• 34:10Connor Wood?

  Jonathan.

• 34:12Brooke Averick?

  And you remember who played him?

• 34:13Connor Wood?

  Crap, Darren Chris.

• 34:14Brooke Averick?

  Nope.

• 34:17Brooke Averick?

  Okay, remember what else he did besides Rent that is a movie?

• 34:21Connor Wood?

  Fifty nine, sixty, thirty, sixty, ninety.

• 34:24Brooke Averick?

  Thirty, ninety.

• 34:24Connor Wood?

  Thirty, ninety.

• 34:25Brooke Averick?

  It's a song, right? And it's, you know, about him and his name is, and he's played by Andrew Garfield and his name is Jonathan.

• 34:35Connor Wood?

  Guys, it's, we could be the whole, we could do this all day.

• 34:38Speaker 04

  It's on the screen.

• 34:42Connor Wood?

  Larson. Really?

• 34:44Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 34:45Connor Wood?

  Larson.

• 34:46Brooke Averick?

  You knew that.

• 34:46Connor Wood?

  Yes, of course I knew that. Jonathan Larson.

• 34:48Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 34:49Connor Wood?

  Oh my gosh.

• 34:50Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 34:51Connor Wood?

  I knew that, that's embarrassing.

• 34:52Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 34:53Connor Wood?

  Izzy, I like knew that, that's a thing.

• 34:55Speaker 04

  I believe you.

• 34:56Brooke Averick?

  I, you did know that.

• 34:57Speaker 04

  You were just under a lot of pressure.

• 34:59Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 34:59Connor Wood?

  I know, names are.

• 35:00Speaker 04

  There's a lot of cameras here.

• 35:01Connor Wood?

  Hard for me.

• 35:02Brooke Averick?

  And that's amazing that you even knew the name Darren Chris, by the way.

• 35:05Connor Wood?

  I know Darren Chris, I could point Darren Chris out in a lineup, like he's, he's gonna hear this now, Darren, you know that.

• 35:13Connor Wood?

  Very famously, I know Darren Chris from Glee.

• 35:17Brooke Averick?

  That's, yeah, love, yeah, and a lot of other stuff too, but absolutely.

• 35:20Connor Wood?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry that, I don't know how we, oh, cause of Rent.

• 35:23Brooke Averick?

  I was gonna, well, I was asking you what else, what you, what you know.

• 35:25Connor Wood?

  Well, I think my first Broadway play, we went, Izzy and I and Brooke went and saw Wicked.

• 35:31Speaker 04

  Love.

• 35:31Connor Wood?

  Before the movie came out.

• 35:35Connor Wood?

  And I think I'm gonna go see more shows. I've been trying to go and see, um, there's a couple. Oh, Mary, I want to go see.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  Yes, so good.

• 35:45Connor Wood?

  Did you, did you see it?

• 35:46Speaker 04

  So good, yes.

• 35:46Connor Wood?

  Who was Mary?

• 35:47Speaker 04

  Cole.

• 35:48Connor Wood?

  That's so incredible.

• 35:49Speaker 04

  It was insane.

• 35:50Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 35:51Connor Wood?

  What sucks about places like, especially being in New York is like, it's right there. Like I could, I could definitely go.

• 35:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:56Connor Wood?

  And because it's right there, it's so accessible that like, I put it off, put it off, put it off, and then Cole's gone. And then my Rudolph's gone.

• 36:02Speaker 04

  Well, I think they're bringing Oh Mary here with Cole.

• 36:06Connor Wood?

  No.

• 36:07Speaker 04

  Like in like November, December.

• 36:10Connor Wood?

  Oh, I'll be back here.

• 36:11Speaker 04

  I think.

• 36:11Connor Wood?

  I'll be back here, yeah.

• 36:13Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 36:13Connor Wood?

  Pre-Nuvo Scan to Oh Mary Pipeline.

• 36:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, we have a lot we need to do.

• 36:17Connor Wood?

  That's a layup.

• 36:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

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• 37:19Brooke Averick?

  But how was your wicked experience? Because that was his first musical.

• 37:23Speaker 04

  That's awesome. I think it might have, no, that wasn't the first one I saw.

• 37:26Connor Wood?

  It scared me a little bit. I didn't like the monkeys.

• 37:28Speaker 04

  The monkeys are freaky.

• 37:30Connor Wood?

  It freaked me out.

• 37:31Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 37:32Connor Wood?

  That's why I'm like so shocked that children are able to watch that because the monkeys still throw me off in a big way.

• 37:37Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, they are scary.

• 37:38Connor Wood?

  Yeah, the monkeys feel like someone crazy could get in there, dress up as like one of the monkeys with an axe and fall into the crowds and axing people.

• 37:45Brooke Averick?

  Okay, well.

• 37:46Speaker 04

  That's never crossed my mind before.

• 37:48Connor Wood?

  Yeah, my bad. I'm looking at all the exits when I walk into somewhere like that.

• 37:51Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 37:52Connor Wood?

  That's my first thought. Yeah, I'm not good with crowds either. Which is funny because I'm saying, you know, like, you don't know, I'm not gonna put a thought in your head, but.

• 38:00Speaker 04

  What? Oh, I probably have thought it before so many times.

• 38:03Connor Wood?

  Think about in the crowd, I'm like, there's no way everyone here likes me, you know, like.

• 38:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, I think when at a show, I'm like, you know, someone probably brought their boyfriend.

• 38:11Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 38:12Brooke Averick?

  I hate seeing men in anything that I'm.

• 38:14Speaker 04

  Doesn't know my music or doesn't, doesn't want to be here, is just here for his girlfriend.

• 38:19Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 38:19Speaker 04

  Which I'm like, that's good for you. Like you're, you're supporting your girlfriend.

• 38:24Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 38:25Speaker 04

  But also like, I know you don't want to be here.

• 38:28Connor Wood?

  Sometimes it's like, what? Give that ticket to a friend, you know, like.

• 38:32Brooke Averick?

  I got such a pit in my stomach every time I saw a man on book tour because I was like, um, oh crap, I know you don't want to be here.

• 38:39Speaker 04

  But sometimes like I feel like once I saw like a group of guys, like just at one of my shows and they were loving it. They were having such great time.

• 38:46Connor Wood?

  Happened to me one time too.

• 38:47Speaker 04

  Like so fun. I'm like, I love you guys.

• 38:50Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 38:51Connor Wood?

  I have a lot of, I have a lot of guy friends that like have your merch and wear it all the time.

• 38:56Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I do feel like I know a lot of guys.

• 38:59Speaker 04

  Wait, that's awesome. I love that because I don't really feel like that's my demographic.

• 39:03Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 39:03Speaker 04

  I'm loving that.

• 39:04Connor Wood?

  Actually, it happened recently. I was gonna send you a picture and obviously I forgot, but the other night when I texted you.

• 39:11Speaker 04

  Do you remember? Yes, I do.

• 39:12Connor Wood?

  I drunk texted Lizzie.

• 39:14Brooke Averick?

  What did you say?

• 39:15Connor Wood?

  I miss my family talking about this. We were watching music videos and like we, we're watching this Lizzie's music video and I sent her, I was in Milan. And I sent her a picture and I was like, I miss my family. And she was like, miss you. And I was like, it's so funny, the people that I drunk text is it's never, it's, it's always like someone I haven't talked to in a while. And I'm like.

• 39:34Speaker 04

  But it was great. He sent me that picture of you guys watching this spring into summer live video and I was like, I love this.

• 39:38Connor Wood?

  I'm crying. What did, what, what did you think when you got, you?

• 39:42Speaker 04

  I was like, oh my God, so sweet.

• 39:44Connor Wood?

  Oh, good.

• 39:44Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 39:45Speaker 04

  I wasn't like, oh, why is Connor texting me?

• 39:48Brooke Averick?

  That's a really good way to drunk text.

• 39:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was really.

• 39:51Brooke Averick?

  And I wish I had that about me.

• 39:54Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 39:55Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 39:55Connor Wood?

  Because, yeah. Do you drunk text?

• 39:58Brooke Averick?

  I mean, I don't really drink that much.

• 40:00Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 40:00Speaker 04

  I never drink. I don't drink anymore.

• 40:02Brooke Averick?

  Really?

• 40:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:03Brooke Averick?

  I'm, I'm pretty done.

• 40:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:05Brooke Averick?

  Um, but sometimes like if there's something where I'm like really nervous for, or it's like a social gathering, I'll, I'll chug really quick. And then I have to go home because I found myself very sick.

• 40:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:16Brooke Averick?

  Um.

• 40:17Connor Wood?

  I think what's worse for me than texting after drinks is texting after some coffees. It's worse for me because I'm like, I need to text everybody. And then by the time I crashed from the coffees, I'm like, oh, they're replying.

• 40:31Connor Wood?

  Crap.

• 40:32Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 40:32Speaker 04

  Consequences of your own actions.

• 40:34Connor Wood?

  I had to put my calendar the other day, heads down, 20 minutes reply to texts. It's gotten to that point.

• 40:41Speaker 04

  Okay. So how many unread texts do you have right now?

• 40:46Speaker 04

  I'm scared.

• 40:46Brooke Averick?

  It's not good.

• 40:47Speaker 04

  I'm scared. I have zero.

• 40:48Connor Wood?

  671.

• 40:50Speaker 04

  671. That is so many. That would give me anxiety.

• 40:55Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 40:55Speaker 04

  It has to be zero. I cannot see a red bubble.

• 40:57Connor Wood?

  At some point, I, um.

• 40:59Brooke Averick?

  When is the most far back text from that you haven't responded?

• 41:03Connor Wood?

  How do, how would I even do that?

• 41:04Brooke Averick?

  Go look at it?

• 41:05Connor Wood?

  Scroll and scroll and scroll?

• 41:07Brooke Averick?

  It's that far down?

• 41:08Speaker 04

  It's a lot of texts.

• 41:09Connor Wood?

  Oh, I, I.

• 41:10Brooke Averick?

  Or do you have some that you're just like, those are, I'm not, those are not something I'm ever responding to?

• 41:14Connor Wood?

  I'm sure some of them are like a group text where someone's planning something like spring break or.

• 41:19Speaker 04

  Spring break.

• 41:20Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 41:21Connor Wood?

  No, it's usually, it's probably like weddings, you know, like all my friends are going, we're planning a wedding and they're booking an Airbnb.

• 41:25Speaker 04

  Right.

• 41:25Connor Wood?

  Usually one of my, like if it's a college friend, a high school friend or something, they'll text me on the side and be like, are you cool with all this? Well, I'm just gonna Venmo request you. Because at some point with group texts, I'm like, I'm gonna, I have to catch up on 30 texts and I, I'm replying late and it doesn't matter and, you know. But it's usually group texts or usually when it starts, because at some point, I'm, I'm due for an upgrade, which is so funny that that is.

• 41:49Brooke Averick?

  I didn't know that was still a thing.

• 41:50Connor Wood?

  It is. And so what'll, what'll happen is I'll get a new phone and I'll be like, this is the one where I keep everything at zero.

• 41:56Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 41:56Connor Wood?

  And then I have a birthday.

• 41:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, birthdays are tough for that.

• 42:00Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 42:00Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 42:01Connor Wood?

  Because it's funny because a lot of people will text you that from, from the past and will be like, hey, happy birthday. And I'm like, thanks so much. And then they're like, how have you been? What are you up to? Where do you live? Can I stay with you when I'm in New York?

• 42:11Speaker 04

  That to me. That's crazy.

• 42:12Connor Wood?

  Yeah, and I'm like.

• 42:13Speaker 04

  I feel like a lot of people text me my birthday like that I haven't spoken to in years. And I'm like.

• 42:20Brooke Averick?

  Do you respond?

• 42:21Speaker 04

  Um, sometimes. It depends because sometimes I'm like, are you just saying this to me because?

• 42:28Connor Wood?

  Yeah, the implication.

• 42:29Speaker 04

  Because of who I am now or what? Like, do you actually care that it's my birthday?

• 42:33Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 42:33Speaker 04

  Are you actually wishing me a happy birthday?

• 42:35Brooke Averick?

  Do you want me to have a happy birthday?

• 42:37Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 42:37Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. I've stopped responding. Like if I haven't heard from you in over four years, like I'm not, I'm not gonna respond to your. Whatever.

• 42:46Connor Wood?

  That's a beauty.

• 42:47Speaker 04

  It's tough. I kind of, I kind of go person by person.

• 42:49Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 42:50Connor Wood?

  Yeah. I don't think that you need to reply to happy birthday. I think like that's a nice thing for you to send a happy birthday and.

• 42:57Speaker 04

  Usually I don't, there's no words involved. Usually it's emojis.

• 43:00Brooke Averick?

  Uh huh.

• 43:00Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 43:01Speaker 04

  Because that seems easier to me. Like just heart, heart, heart.

• 43:04Brooke Averick?

  Heart and then the welling up face.

• 43:06Speaker 04

  Right, right, right.

• 43:07Connor Wood?

  You shouldn't have texted me happy birthday.

• 43:11Brooke Averick?

  I love the welling up face.

• 43:12Connor Wood?

  Do you? Is that your top emoji?

• 43:14Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Well, no, my top emoji I've made my, myself. It's a gay mouse with a gun.

• 43:19Speaker 04

  Oh my God, love.

• 43:21Brooke Averick?

  So.

• 43:22Connor Wood?

  Great.

• 43:22Brooke Averick?

  Uh, yeah, it's just like.

• 43:24Connor Wood?

  Why, how does the ma, how is the mouse gay?

• 43:26Brooke Averick?

  It's, I just, you know, you can make.

• 43:29Connor Wood?

  Because he has a gun?

• 43:29Brooke Averick?

  Can we see it? No, well, yeah, I can show you. It's like you can make, you know how you can make your own on.

• 43:34Speaker 04

  I've, yes, but I don't know how to do it.

• 43:36Brooke Averick?

  Whatever that's called. I just typed in like gay mouse wielding a weapon. Because I don't remember why that's what I needed. Like it was a very specific situation where I needed like, like a purd, a mouse on the day of purge, the purge who was gay.

• 43:52Connor Wood?

  Sure.

• 43:52Brooke Averick?

  Um, I don't remember why that was what I needed, but yeah, I'll show you my mouth.

• 43:58Connor Wood?

  Yeah, let's see it.

• 44:00Brooke Averick?

  He's wearing a, oh yeah, he has a purse.

• 44:05Connor Wood?

  He's like a, he's like in a, in a mob. He's wearing a tux, he's wearing a suit. Suit, gun, purse.

• 44:11Brooke Averick?

  Suit, gun and purse.

• 44:13Connor Wood?

  Luckily.

• 44:14Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, very pink tail. Anyway, that's, that is my most used emoji, but then it's, and then it's welling up face. Yeah.

• 44:21Connor Wood?

  Understandable.

• 44:22Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 44:23Connor Wood?

  Um, can I ask something about music specifically?

• 44:26Brooke Averick?

  You can.

• 44:27Connor Wood?

  And albums actually too.

• 44:28Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 44:29Connor Wood?

  Two questions, very dumb, but I've been curious.

• 44:32Speaker 04

  No stupid questions.

• 44:33Connor Wood?

  How many, how many songs are gonna be on your new album?

• 44:39Speaker 04

  14.

• 44:40Connor Wood?

  Okay. How did they decide on the number of songs?

• 44:42Speaker 04

  How did they decide?

• 44:43Connor Wood?

  Well, like, because it's pretty. It's pretty, well, sorry, sorry. But traditionally it's like 10 to 14.

• 44:50Speaker 04

  I usually, um, okay, so my first album was 13.

• 44:55Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 44:55Speaker 04

  And I had, the 13th song on that album was about my dad who passed away in 2020, also around the same time that, that COVID happened and uh, Berkeley went online, which was crazy. Um, and the album came out on the 13th and the 13th song was about him and that just, and he passed away on the 13th.

• 45:15Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 45:15Speaker 04

  And so it, it felt like very cosmic. And so after that, I was like, okay, every 13th song now on every one of my albums will be about my dad.

• 45:24Connor Wood?

  Wow.

• 45:25Speaker 04

  So now I have to have at least 13 songs and ending on the 13th track is, is not, is not great. It's pretty much a downer every time. So I think 14 is like my sweet spot that I've found. And yeah.

• 45:40Connor Wood?

  Wow.

• 45:41Brooke Averick?

  Makes sense.

• 45:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:42Brooke Averick?

  How many do you record though?

• 45:43Speaker 04

  So many.

• 45:44Brooke Averick?

  Really?

• 45:45Connor Wood?

  So there's, there's more songs.

• 45:47Brooke Averick?

  Or right, or like, yeah.

• 45:48Speaker 04

  There are so many songs. I, for this album specifically, I wrote so many songs. And because I started writing this album and then we tried to record it the first time in January of 2025, which is like right when the fires happened. And we were recording in Altadena and Mason, my co-producer and guitarist's studio, back studio, his house in Altadena.

• 46:14Speaker 04

  And we were in there for two days and then the second day, um, the fires happened. So we couldn't obviously go back to that. And then I went to do Broadway in February for five months. And then I wrote so many more songs while I was there. And then I came back and I was like, okay, I have two like worlds that the songs are happening in, like the one before I left and the one from, from New York.

• 46:35Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 46:35Speaker 04

  And then we combined them all. Um, a couple of songs got cut. That's okay. That's life. Um.

• 46:42Brooke Averick?

  Would they ever like possibly come back or do you just say goodbye to those forever?

• 46:46Speaker 04

  Let me just say there's a lot of songs in my vault and there's a lot more than normal. So I'm, I, something will be happening.

• 46:54Connor Wood?

  Did they shit? Do they shit on like a laptop? Like are your, are your vault songs just like shitting on laptops?

• 47:02Speaker 04

  My songs are on my phone. I have like thousands and thousands of voice memos and

• 47:07Connor Wood?

  Yeah, you just.

• 47:07Speaker 04

  My notes, I just write the songs on my notes app.

• 47:10Brooke Averick?

  Whoa.

• 47:11Connor Wood?

  What, what happened?

• 47:12Brooke Averick?

  That feels like.

• 47:13Connor Wood?

  When, if your phone got left in an Uber?

• 47:16Speaker 04

  Uh, well, it's all on the cloud, right?

• 47:19Connor Wood?

  How do you get to the cloud?

• 47:20Brooke Averick?

  I don't know.

• 47:21Speaker 04

  Like on my, on my laptop? Oh, I don't know.

• 47:24Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, oh no, you can get it on your laptop.

• 47:25Connor Wood?

  It's something, it's something to think about.

• 47:26Speaker 04

  Most of my notes are just on my phone. Like not on the cloud.

• 47:30Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 47:30Connor Wood?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 47:31Brooke Averick?

  But those things.

• 47:32Connor Wood?

  I'm sorry to, that's.

• 47:33Brooke Averick?

  Via Apple ID.

• 47:34Speaker 04

  I think I could remember most of them.

• 47:36Connor Wood?

  Really?

• 47:37Speaker 04

  I think so. Maybe not the tunings. I think the tunings of my guitar are the things that I will not remember if I don't write them down.

• 47:43Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 47:44Speaker 04

  But I, I'll remember the lyrics and like how the song goes.

• 47:46Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 47:47Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 47:48Connor Wood?

  Oh, hell no.

• 47:49Brooke Averick?

  Oh, hell no.

• 47:49Connor Wood?

  Uh-uh, not for me. I'd have to like have someone else that I hire to, I'd sing them the song and then.

• 47:56Speaker 04

  They did transcribe it?

• 47:57Connor Wood?

  And you have to learn this now. And when I lose my phone.

• 48:00Speaker 04

  Sing it back.

• 48:01Connor Wood?

  In the next week.

• 48:02Brooke Averick?

  Yep.

• 48:02Connor Wood?

  I'm gonna have to, you're gonna have to come over to my house and perform this so I can remember them.

• 48:06Brooke Averick?

  That's amazing.

• 48:07Speaker 04

  I would remember them. Most of them.

• 48:09Connor Wood?

  And that's exciting.

• 48:11Speaker 04

  So that was the first question, right?

• 48:12Connor Wood?

  Yeah. And then the second question is. Do you have, this is your fourth album?

• 48:19Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 48:20Connor Wood?

  That's like a lot of albums. For like a lot of-

• 48:24Speaker 04

  I think-

• 48:24Connor Wood?

  Sorry, wait, there's like a lot of people that like, aren't like, in the scene, I guess you can just be releasing singles and, but like for, a lot of people like, that have been on the scene for a long time, definitely longer than like 20, 20, have like, some people have like three albums.

• 48:41Brooke Averick?

  I guess like Adele-

• 48:43Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 48:43Brooke Averick?

  Has four maybe?

• 48:44Connor Wood?

  Four albums.

• 48:44Speaker 04

  People take a lot of time between, I, I kind of am just writing so much that the albums just kind of like present themselves to me and I'm like, alright, I'm making this one now. Um, but, yeah, I don't, I don't know. It's, I just, I don't really think about that. I'm just, I just write a lot.

• 49:03Brooke Averick?

  Do you ever get writer's block?

• 49:04Speaker 04

  Yes, definitely.

• 49:05Brooke Averick?

  What do you do?

• 49:06Speaker 04

  Like right now, I haven't written a song in like a while.

• 49:08Brooke Averick?

  Really?

• 49:09Speaker 04

  Cause it's just like, I'm, I gotta live.

• 49:12Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 49:13Speaker 04

  You know, you, you kind of have to live life and like have experiences before you can write about them. And even if you have an experience, you kind of have to like process it before you can

• 49:22Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 49:23Speaker 04

  put it into words in a poetic way.

• 49:25Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 49:26Speaker 04

  So I feel like, right now I'm just living, you know?

• 49:29Connor Wood?

  Do you-

• 49:30Speaker 04

  Waiting.

• 49:30Connor Wood?

  Have the thing of where?

• 49:34Brooke Averick?

  Do you have the thing of where?

• 49:35Connor Wood?

  Do you have the thing of where? Um.

• 49:39Brooke Averick?

  You see colors? Is that what you're gonna ask?

• 49:42Connor Wood?

  No, but I do want to talk about that. Of where, when you have a-

• 49:49Speaker 04

  Yep, you got this, you got this.

• 49:50Brooke Averick?

  He's so cool.

• 49:51Connor Wood?

  Do you have a thing of where when you have a, you have it, okay? Grab, hold of it. Release. Oh, I know what it was. When my, my ideas all come, not related at all, like not even close in relation to what you're doing, but like, everything comes to me when I'm not able to get it down, pen to paper, like when I'm about to fall asleep and I have to weigh the options. Do you look at your blue light right now and write this down?

• 50:18Speaker 04

  Right.

• 50:18Connor Wood?

  Or risk losing it? I convince myself every single time, you'll remember this, this is great, wake up. I knew I had a good idea last night, forgot it.

• 50:24Speaker 04

  No, I would never remember.

• 50:25Connor Wood?

  Shower?

• 50:26Speaker 04

  I have to write it down.

• 50:26Connor Wood?

  Nothing I can't-

• 50:27Speaker 04

  On the toilet?

• 50:28Brooke Averick?

  Mm-hmm.

• 50:29Speaker 04

  So many good ideas have come to me on the toilet.

• 50:31Connor Wood?

  Where's my phone, where's my-

• 50:32Brooke Averick?

  It's always happening in the bathroom.

• 50:33Connor Wood?

  Or on, like when I'm running. And I'm listening to music and something will come to me or I'm thinking of something.

• 50:38Speaker 04

  See, I don't run, so, wouldn't know about that.

• 50:40Connor Wood?

  But just like when you're, you know, or when you're driving or when you're, it's always these moments that like you have these buzz. When you're having a stroke and you let, when you're having a stroke. POV, having a stroke. That I can't, do you have that? Do you have that?

• 50:55Speaker 04

  Um, sometimes, yeah, definitely.

• 50:57Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 50:57Speaker 04

  I feel like I have to, I can never force the inspiration to come. Like, if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen when I, when it's ready and when it wants to. Like I can't force it. So if I feel like, it's kind of hard to explain, but like, when I feel a song, like brewing, it feels like it's on the tip of my tongue, like it's like about to come out. Like, sometimes I'll be like, I have this idea and it's like, definitely not ready yet, but it's like in the background. It's like, it's in the back. And then like a couple of days later, maybe it'll like be a little more forward and it, it will like take more of a shape in my brain and I'm like, okay, like, I feel like it's about to happen.

• 51:37Brooke Averick?

  Uh-huh. Like you're going into labor, like contractions.

• 51:40Speaker 04

  I'm about to burst the song.

• 51:40Brooke Averick?

  You're dilated and then, yeah.

• 51:42Connor Wood?

  I was thinking something different, cause we were talking about the bathroom, yeah.

• 51:45Brooke Averick?

  I was thinking that.

• 51:46Connor Wood?

  Something's brewing, it's on the tip of my tongue, it's coming.

• 51:48Speaker 04

  You know, IBS, yeah.

• 51:49Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 51:49Speaker 04

  Um, and I feel like then when the song is ready, it's like, I have to get it out of me.

• 51:58Connor Wood?

  Right.

• 51:59Speaker 04

  So then-

• 51:59Brooke Averick?

  Get this thing out of me.

• 52:00Connor Wood?

  Or so help me.

• 52:01Speaker 04

  Literally.

• 52:02Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 52:02Speaker 04

  So then like I'll sit down and I'll write, I'll write it and when it's ready to come out, it will happen in like 20 minutes, sometimes.

• 52:09Brooke Averick?

  Whoa.

• 52:10Speaker 04

  It like, sometimes it happens really fast. And yeah, so, I mean, obviously sometimes I'll be like falling asleep and my brain will just be like going, like working and working and then I'll have to like pull my phone out and write the ideas down and then-

• 52:23Brooke Averick?

  So do you write the lyrics first or do you have the melody?

• 52:27Speaker 04

  I have done that, but it's hard for me to do it that way.

• 52:30Brooke Averick?

  Uh-huh.

• 52:30Speaker 04

  So usually I will like, have the feeling that the song's about to, it's coming, it's coming everyone.

• 52:39Brooke Averick?

  Start with the contraction.

• 52:40Speaker 04

  Then I start with a chord progression. So I'll play the guitar and just like put it in a random tuning or putting it, put it in a tuning that I, I have written in before and just play and like see what emerges. And then, once I have that, I'll kind of like do the lyrics and the melody at the same time. So I never, I, I can't really write down lyrics like ahead of a chord progression because I don't really know what the song is gonna feel like until I have the music behind it. You know, cause I feel like that informs the tone of the song.

• 53:14Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 53:14Speaker 04

  And then the lyrics can come from that.

• 53:17Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 53:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:18Brooke Averick?

  That's really cool.

• 53:20Connor Wood?

  You just talked about that thing where you hear sounds and you, you think, colors? What did you say? Are you seeing colors?

• 53:25Speaker 04

  I don't think I, I don't think I have that.

• 53:27Brooke Averick?

  Or I was just trying to mind read you and help you along, cause you were having a stroke.

• 53:31Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I was struggling back then.

• 53:32Brooke Averick?

  But, it's, it all worked out.

• 53:35Connor Wood?

  It did all work out, but I, when you were talking about the feeling of when you are on like the precipice of a song, like that is kind of what I was thinking. You know, like it's back here. I always think like, when I have this idea, it feels like a cavity.

• 53:50Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 53:51Connor Wood?

  And like I can feel it on my teeth.

• 53:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:53Connor Wood?

  You know? And then when you start putting it on paper, like if I think of like the, the makeup of a joke, I think of like circles and squares and lines and like how they're connected.

• 54:01Brooke Averick?

  What?

• 54:01Connor Wood?

  Like how they're built. Do you see that with music or is it just like one flow state, line, line, line, then line?

• 54:06Speaker 04

  It's just kind of like stream of consciousness. It's like, when I think about a song like in, when it's like in the back of my mind, when it's like not ready to come out yet, it's just like a very amorphous like blob. And then eventually, and then when it comes out, it's just like, okay, here it is. It literally, and sometimes it feels like it's not coming from me. I know a lot of creatives talk about this, but it-

• 54:31Connor Wood?

  Hi God.

• 54:31Speaker 04

  It feels like-

• 54:32Connor Wood?

  Hi God.

• 54:32Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 54:33Connor Wood?

  It's me, Margaret.

• 54:34Speaker 04

  It feels like sometimes I'm just channeling it from somewhere. Like this song already existed and I'm just putting it on paper. Sometimes it feels like that. Sometimes it's harder to write a song. Sometimes it's like, this is a, this is a battle. But, most of the time it feel, it's very easy. And then, and then I'll go through a period, like right now, I haven't written a song in so long and I'm like, will I ever write a good song ever again?

• 54:58Connor Wood?

  That's-

• 54:59Speaker 04

  How did I ever write a good song?

• 55:00Brooke Averick?

  What came first?

• 55:01Speaker 04

  How do you write a good song? I don't know.

• 55:03Brooke Averick?

  What came first, your voice or like your love of songwriting?

• 55:07Speaker 04

  My voice. I think, I've been singing since I was in like kindergarten, preschool, like-

• 55:11Brooke Averick?

  Cause I was gonna say like, what would you do if you just like had this love of songwriting but didn't have your voice?

• 55:15Speaker 04

  No, I think, I mean, obviously, I started out not as good as I am now, but it was a little rough when I first started singing, but, um, I feel like-

• 55:25Connor Wood?

  You have a range too.

• 55:26Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:27Connor Wood?

  Obviously to do Light in the Painting and then you listen to your Broadway.

• 55:31Speaker 04

  Right.

• 55:32Connor Wood?

  And it's like, wow.

• 55:33Speaker 04

  Well, I, I took vocal lessons for Broadway. I like really went deep, cause I was like, I need, I need to be, I need to be good. I need to, I need to show them what I'm made of, you know?

• 55:43Connor Wood?

  Let them know.

• 55:44Brooke Averick?

  And you did.

• 55:44Connor Wood?

  You are letting them know right now. You're like, it's easy for me. I don't give a shit. Like, God touches my brain.

• 55:51Speaker 04

  Sometimes, but then sometimes it's hard. It's really a toss-up.

• 55:54Brooke Averick?

  Do you wanna go back to Broadway?

• 55:56Speaker 04

  I would love to.

• 55:57Brooke Averick?

  Whoa.

• 55:58Speaker 04

  It was actually like, one of the most transformative experiences of my entire life. Like, I feel like it built my confidence so much.

• 56:09Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 56:09Speaker 04

  It brought me out of my shell. I feel like, I mean, I did theater in high school.

• 56:12Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 56:12Speaker 04

  Obviously, with theater kid. And, um, I feel like even in high school, I was so shy before I did theater. And then doing theater like brought me out of my shell. It like showed me like, oh, I can, I can take up

• 56:29Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 56:29Speaker 04

  this space and like, people wanna see that. And doing it this time was just magical. I mean, the people that I met, everyone in that cast was so incredible. I love them all so much. It was such a warm group to be a part of and they were all so welcoming. And I learned so much about myself and-

• 56:53Speaker 04

  I wrote so many songs while I was there. I was so inspired by the music that I got to sing every night. It was so beautiful and it was, it was scary and really hard.

• 57:02Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I can imagine.

• 57:02Speaker 04

  And I had to learn how to like sing through my nerves.

• 57:07Brooke Averick?

  I was gonna say, was it the same kind of thing as a concert?

• 57:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, but you can't stop.

• 57:12Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 57:12Speaker 04

  In, in one of my own shows, I can just be like, oh my God, that was crazy. But you're a character.

• 57:18Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 57:18Speaker 04

  On stage, like you, I had to learn how to.

• 57:20Brooke Averick?

  Lizzy's not here anymore.

• 57:21Speaker 04

  No, it's not me.

• 57:22Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 57:22Speaker 04

  I had to learn how to move, like make a mistake and then move on.

• 57:27Connor Wood?

  It has to be.

• 57:27Speaker 04

  Let it go.

• 57:28Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 57:28Speaker 04

  You gotta, you gotta keep moving.

• 57:29Brooke Averick?

  Keep going.

• 57:30Speaker 04

  Which was hard because I hate making mistakes. And I, I used to like spiral about that a lot. And sometimes if it was, if it was a bad mistake, like one time my voice cracked real bad. And I spiraled about that for the rest of the show.

• 57:42Brooke Averick?

  I bet no one noticed, honestly.

• 57:44Speaker 04

  It was pretty noticeable, I think. But stuff like that, you kind of just have to like get over it.

• 57:52Brooke Averick?

  Like that's actually the beauty of live theater.

• 57:54Speaker 04

  Yeah. So that was hard for me because I'm a perfectionist.

• 57:57Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 57:58Speaker 04

  But it also, I feel like I, I came into my body more. Like I feel like the first couple, during the preview process, which is like when the show is playing, but it's like critics aren't allowed to come yet.

• 58:15Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 58:16Speaker 04

  So it's just like, and you're working through things every day. Like we would go to rehearsal during the day and then we'd do the show at night. During that process, I saw such a like growth in, in myself. I felt like the beginning of that process, I was timid. Like I see, you know, bootlegs, hate those, but I've seen like clips of me during the beginning of preview experience. And I'm like, wow, I seem so like closed and like shy and timid. And then I felt like by the end of the whole thing, like closing night, I, I was so much more confident. And it like really, it was a crazy learning experience. It was so awesome and it just like, I feel like I came back from that.

• 59:00Speaker 04

  Cause also it was so fun to just go and do something so different.

• 59:03Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 59:03Speaker 04

  And with no, I didn't know anyone. I like, none of my bandmates.

• 59:08Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 59:08Speaker 04

  None of my, everyone, all my whole team like lives in LA.

• 59:11Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 59:12Speaker 04

  So I just went to New York by myself and I was like, I'm just gonna do this.

• 59:15Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 59:15Speaker 04

  Because I was burnt out.

• 59:17Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 59:17Speaker 04

  From making music, I, there, there was no joy in it for me anymore. I was like, I need to fill other cups so that when I come back to making music, it's fun again.

• 59:25Connor Wood?

  Wow.

• 59:26Speaker 04

  And I did.

• 59:27Brooke Averick?

  Went back to making music, like how did you change, like, did you change as Lizzie, like the performer?

• 59:34Speaker 04

  I think so. I mean, first of all, my voice was so much stronger.

• 59:37Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 59:37Speaker 04

  When I came back and when we recorded a lot of this stuff, all of it.

• 59:42Speaker 04

  I was, I could hear like my voice.

• 59:45Connor Wood?

  Wow.

• 59:46Speaker 04

  Being different and like just stronger.

• 59:50Speaker 04

  And also the songs that I wrote there were, were different from the songs that I wrote before I, I went there. And they're all just like, yeah, it was, it was really transformative. It was really crazy. I loved it so much and I want to do it again. I mean, immediately.

• 1:00:03Brooke Averick?

  If, what would your dream role be? Any, any show possible.

• 1:00:07Speaker 04

  Obviously. That Natalie is a dream role.

• 1:00:13Connor Wood?

  This space, you'll be shocked what happens when you speak things out in this space.

• 1:00:18Speaker 04

  Okay, great. Make it happen, y'all.

• 1:00:19Brooke Averick?

  There is.

• 1:00:20Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:20Brooke Averick?

  I heard something about next to normal coming back.

• 1:00:23Speaker 04

  I, I did too. I hear the rumblings.

• 1:00:25Brooke Averick?

  I heard a rumble.

• 1:00:26Speaker 04

  And my team is aware.

• 1:00:27Brooke Averick?

  Okay. As long as everyone's aware.

• 1:00:29Speaker 04

  That stage.

• 1:00:30Connor Wood?

  Hello.

• 1:00:30Brooke Averick?

  Oh my God. You would kill Superboy, the invisible girl.

• 1:00:35Speaker 04

  I would really die.

• 1:00:35Brooke Averick?

  Do you think that anyone, if they took voice lessons, could sing? I'm mostly asking for myself.

• 1:00:45Brooke Averick?

  Cause I'm, I like have really been wanting.

• 1:00:47Connor Wood?

  She's a good singer.

• 1:00:48Brooke Averick?

  I'm not a good singer, but like.

• 1:00:50Speaker 04

  You could ask, you should ask for me.

• 1:00:51Brooke Averick?

  I can carry a tune.

• 1:00:53Speaker 04

  You can match pitch.

• 1:00:55Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 1:00:55Speaker 04

  I think that is the, the prerequisite. I think, cause there are some people I know that truly like, they'll sing along to a song and it's just not even close.

• 1:01:06Brooke Averick?

  Right. It's like you're a lost cause.

• 1:01:07Speaker 04

  And I'm like, wow, that is so crazy.

• 1:01:10Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:11Speaker 04

  It just, it just blows my mind. But I think like, if you have, if you can match a pitch and like carry a tune, I think, yeah.

• 1:01:19Brooke Averick?

  I just like don't under, I don't see how singing lessons would do, make my throat not hurt.

• 1:01:27Speaker 04

  It is trans, it's transformative. If you have to find the right teacher, like, I feel like I went through a couple and then my, the teacher that I ended up with, um, Vicky, who, Victoria Clark is like an iconic Broadway actress. She was in The Light in the Piazza.

• 1:01:42Speaker 04

  And like so many other things.

• 1:01:45Brooke Averick?

  Is that inspired by that?

• 1:01:47Speaker 04

  Not consciously, but like probably subconsciously.

• 1:01:50Brooke Averick?

  I love when that happens.

• 1:01:51Speaker 04

  But she like really, just put it in a way that made me understand. Cause I feel like a lot of voice teachers will be like.

• 1:01:58Connor Wood?

  Raise your yah yah yah.

• 1:01:59Speaker 04

  Lift your soft palate.

• 1:02:00Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:00Speaker 04

  And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?

• 1:02:01Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 1:02:02Speaker 04

  How do I do that? But she put it in, in words that like made sense to me. And yeah, there's just like technique is really important. I feel like if you learn, if you learn the basics of technique, then you're set, kinda.

• 1:02:17Brooke Averick?

  All right, I'm gonna sign up.

• 1:02:17Speaker 04

  I think you should.

• 1:02:18Connor Wood?

  You should.

• 1:02:19Brooke Averick?

  But also I'm worried about like the person I would become if I could sing really well. Cause like, I don't know how you didn't sing this whole podcast.

• 1:02:27Brooke Averick?

  Cause like if, if I had a voice like that, it would be, I would not.

• 1:02:31Speaker 04

  Oh my God.

• 1:02:32Connor Wood?

  I didn't say I couldn't sing.

• 1:02:34Brooke Averick?

  It would be pretty bad. It would be pretty bad. So it might be worth me not exploring it.

• 1:02:39Speaker 04

  I think you should. No, I think you should, especially cause you're a Broadway girlie.

• 1:02:42Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:42Speaker 04

  And then you can just like sing Broadway songs all the time.

• 1:02:44Brooke Averick?

  I want to, like sometimes I'm limited by my range.

• 1:02:47Speaker 04

  Maybe you could be on Broadway.

• 1:02:48Brooke Averick?

  I think my stage fright for Broadway specifically, like, sorry to bring up diarrhea again, but like, I, before any show I go see, am blowing up the theater restroom because I'm so nervous.

• 1:03:01Speaker 04

  Even just in the audience.

• 1:03:02Brooke Averick?

  I'm so nervous for everybody else.

• 1:03:04Speaker 04

  Oh my God. Like, I kind of, I kind of feel that.

• 1:03:06Brooke Averick?

  There's something about Broadway, like, cause I guess it's like, it's live theater, like anything's happening.

• 1:03:12Connor Wood?

  Empathy induced IBS is.

• 1:03:13Brooke Averick?

  I have really bad empathy induced IBS.

• 1:03:16Connor Wood?

  That means your good, pure heart is at work.

• 1:03:19Brooke Averick?

  I don't know if that's what it means, but.

• 1:03:21Connor Wood?

  Maybe get a colonoscopy.

• 1:03:23Speaker 04

  I stopped.

• 1:03:24Brooke Averick?

  I want one.

• 1:03:25Connor Wood?

  Voice lessons and a colonoscopy.

• 1:03:27Speaker 04

  That's what I'm prescribing you.

• 1:03:28Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I would love that.

• 1:03:30Speaker 04

  Cause I, that's why I stopped eating gluten. When I, when I did Broadway, I was like, okay, I need to stop because it was not, it was not helping.

• 1:03:38Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:39Speaker 04

  It was actually hurting.

• 1:03:40Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:41Speaker 04

  Um, and I was like, I can't be in the bathroom every time I'm off stage.

• 1:03:44Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 1:03:44Speaker 04

  You know? And plus I was on stage like basically the whole time.

• 1:03:48Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:48Speaker 04

  For that show.

• 1:03:48Connor Wood?

  Oh, that just wouldn't work.

• 1:03:49Speaker 04

  So I was like, I can't.

• 1:03:50Brooke Averick?

  What, oh my God. Like for me, like I can give myself a stomach ache, like if I just think about it, like, and so if I was on stage, like I, that's what I would do.

• 1:04:01Speaker 04

  Cause yeah, I would, I would just be sitting. Cause I would just sit there.

• 1:04:04Brooke Averick?

  I would be having a fear of getting a stomach ache and then I would give myself a stomach ache. And then it's like, then what do you do on stage?

• 1:04:11Speaker 04

  So. Right. See, one time I was on stage, oh, this has nothing to do with the stomach, but I had just like gotten over a, a, I had strep and then I had like a sinus infection. And I came back and I was still like having a lingering cough. And I was standing on stage in the back, like just, you know, doing my thing. And I was supposed to be on stage for the scene that was happening over there. And then I would come downstage and I'd sing my big act two number, like my big song. And I was standing up there and I was feeling a tickle and I was like, oh, I was trying to like get rid of it. And then suddenly I, I was like, okay, I have to cough. And then I, and then I started coughing and then I couldn't stop coughing.

• 1:04:52Connor Wood?

  Oh no.

• 1:04:53Speaker 04

  So I ran off stage. I'm supposed to be on stage.

• 1:04:56Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 1:04:56Speaker 04

  I ran off stage.

• 1:04:57Brooke Averick?

  Are you mic'd?

• 1:04:58Speaker 04

  The mic is not on.

• 1:04:59Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 1:04:59Speaker 04

  But I, I did during the scene, I had to sing like some Oz or something in the background.

• 1:05:06Speaker 04

  It wasn't that point yet, but I ran off stage. I was coughing, I couldn't stop. I was drinking water. I was like, how the fuck am I supposed to do this? And then they turned my mic on and I just like choked out the Oz and then I coughed at the end of it. But they hadn't turned my mic off yet. So the cough, and there's, there's reverb on this, there's like an echo. So the cough just like echoed through the house.

• 1:05:25Connor Wood?

  Brooke would've shit her pants in the audience for you.

• 1:05:27Speaker 04

  And then, and then, um, I had to go back on stage to sing my song.

• 1:05:30Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 1:05:30Speaker 04

  And it was just me and the audience for like four minutes. And so I went on and I did, I tucked a cough drop in the corner of my mouth.

• 1:05:39Brooke Averick?

  I bet you had a good little rasp.

• 1:05:40Speaker 04

  And I prayed, I just prayed. I was like, please let me get through this. I went back, I did the scene, I was like, like the whole time when I didn't have to be saying anything. And then I sang the song and somehow I got through it.

• 1:05:51Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 1:05:52Speaker 04

  And it traumatized me because then the next show, I was standing up there at the same point and I was like, what if it starts happening again?

• 1:05:59Brooke Averick?

  I know, that's so scary.

• 1:06:00Speaker 04

  Oh my God. It was like the panic.

• 1:06:03Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:03Speaker 04

  That went through my body.

• 1:06:04Brooke Averick?

  I can't.

• 1:06:05Speaker 04

  Because when I went backstage, the stage manager was like, do we need to pause the show? And I was like, no, we can't pause the show. That's so insane. We can't, I can't, I can't do that to everyone.

• 1:06:14Connor Wood?

  Oh my God.

• 1:06:14Speaker 04

  So I was just like, I'm just gonna fucking push through.

• 1:06:17Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 1:06:17Connor Wood?

  That's too much pressure for a young lady.

• 1:06:19Brooke Averick?

  But wouldn't like, wouldn't Understudy just run out instead?

• 1:06:22Speaker 04

  No, they would just have paused the show until I got it under control and it would've kept going. But I was like, no, we have to keep, I'm not gonna stop the show for this. I'm not, I can't be a diva.

• 1:06:31Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:32Speaker 04

  You know?

• 1:06:32Brooke Averick?

  You would just be taking care of yourself.

• 1:06:35Speaker 04

  No, I, I just pushed through and then.

• 1:06:37Brooke Averick?

  That's crazy.

• 1:06:37Speaker 04

  Terrifying, but yeah.

• 1:06:39Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 1:06:40Speaker 04

  Real scary.

• 1:06:41Brooke Averick?

  You are so strong.

• 1:06:42Speaker 04

  That's the only thing that like really happened on stage that was like terrifying.

• 1:06:46Brooke Averick?

  If that's the worst thing.

• 1:06:46Speaker 04

  I tripped one time though.

• 1:06:47Brooke Averick?

  That tripping is hard.

• 1:06:49Speaker 04

  Right there, so I just fell onto the bench.

• 1:06:50Brooke Averick?

  Oh, good. I saw in a show I saw recently, someone fell like pretty bad.

• 1:06:56Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:06:57Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. And I'm like, it sucks cause like, if I were her friend, I would tell her like, I'm sure no one's even thinking about it. Or no one noticed her's even thinking about it. Like I think about it a good amount.

• 1:07:07Brooke Averick?

  So I feel bad about that.

• 1:07:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:09Brooke Averick?

  But.

• 1:07:09Speaker 04

  That's tough.

• 1:07:10Brooke Averick?

  She's.

• 1:07:10Speaker 04

  But you know, live theater, what are you gonna do?

• 1:07:11Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, exactly. Live theater.

• 1:07:12Speaker 04

  And it's kind of fun. Like, you got a little.

• 1:07:15Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:15Speaker 04

  A little extra.

• 1:07:16Connor Wood?

  You got a unique show.

• 1:07:17Brooke Averick?

  I did. I did. I felt so bad. And my stomach hurts so bad.

• 1:07:20Connor Wood?

  I see. I don't get in, I don't feel secondhand embarrassment for people that fall. Like, I'm like, I think that's great that you fell.

• 1:07:28Speaker 04

  I think, I think it, like, some people can use it, you know?

• 1:07:32Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:33Speaker 04

  Especially if it's a, if it's a comedy.

• 1:07:35Connor Wood?

  I think it's more impressive for someone to fall and then get up and keep going. Like, that is so incredible to me. That like, that would make the show for me, that you were able to carry on. Over like.

• 1:07:45Speaker 04

  See, the thing is, if I actually fell, I think I would just start laughing.

• 1:07:48Brooke Averick?

  You could tell she was like hurting.

• 1:07:51Connor Wood?

  Oh, no.

• 1:07:51Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 1:07:52Brooke Averick?

  No, like her soul.

• 1:07:53Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:07:53Connor Wood?

  Oh.

• 1:07:54Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:55Connor Wood?

  Falling is okay. I think falling is.

• 1:07:58Connor Wood?

  If I'm there, I encourage one fall. Cause it take, to me, like, I'd be like, oh my God, they're performing. Cause I'll get so locked in.

• 1:08:03Speaker 04

  They're real people.

• 1:08:03Connor Wood?

  Watching a performance that I'm like, I'm watching a movie. And you forget that people are doing this in real time.

• 1:08:07Brooke Averick?

  That's true.

• 1:08:08Connor Wood?

  And you see a fall, it's like, these people are human.

• 1:08:10Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:10Connor Wood?

  Are they human or are they dancers?

• 1:08:12Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:13Connor Wood?

  Never understood that song. That's a mystery to me.

• 1:08:15Brooke Averick?

  Which one is that?

• 1:08:16Connor Wood?

  Are We Human or Are We Dancers by Coldplay?

• 1:08:18Brooke Averick?

  I don't think I know that one.

• 1:08:19Connor Wood?

  Are We Human? Or Are We Dancers? Copyright infringement. Episode gets canceled. What is, uh? Uh. Human?

• 1:08:29Brooke Averick?

  Called that.

• 1:08:30Connor Wood?

  Or dance? Oh, it's by The Killers, pardon.

• 1:08:33Brooke Averick?

  Oh.

• 1:08:34Speaker 04

  Oh, not Coldplay.

• 1:08:34Brooke Averick?

  Oh, yeah, I don't know that one. But. I'll, I'll listen to it.

• 1:08:39Connor Wood?

  That's a good que, okay, thanks. We can listen to it in the bonus.

• 1:08:41Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Oh, cool.

• 1:08:43Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:43Brooke Averick?

  Okay, well, let's give Lizzie the floor to plug the album.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:08:49Connor Wood?

  Her fourth.

• 1:08:50Brooke Averick?

  Fourth album.

• 1:08:51Speaker 04

  Where, where should I look? Here?

• 1:08:52Brooke Averick?

  Um, good question.

• 1:08:53Connor Wood?

  There's, we've.

• 1:08:54Brooke Averick?

  There's, we've just.

• 1:08:54Connor Wood?

  Camera maxing.

• 1:08:55Brooke Averick?

  Few, few cameras. That one, do you think?

• 1:08:57Speaker 04

  The one that moves or the one that's static?

• 1:08:59Brooke Averick?

  These three. Any one of these three?

• 1:09:00Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 1:09:01Connor Wood?

  You feel called to.

• 1:09:02Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:09:02Brooke Averick?

  Dealer's choice.

• 1:09:03Speaker 04

  Um, my album Angel comes out September 18th.

• 1:09:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's it.

• 1:09:12Speaker 04

  Woo-hoo.

• 1:09:13Connor Wood?

  Also, Light in the Painting is out now.

• 1:09:14Speaker 04

  Yes, it is.

• 1:09:15Connor Wood?

  You can appreciate the album, too.

• 1:09:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, you can.

• 1:09:17Connor Wood?

  That's an option for you.

• 1:09:18Brooke Averick?

  Like, that helps, right?

• 1:09:19Speaker 04

  All the vinyls. Um, we just released a seven inch vinyl today.

• 1:09:24Brooke Averick?

  Seven inch vinyl.

• 1:09:25Speaker 04

  For the Light in the Painting on one side, on the other side is the demo that we made in the Altadena studio before the fires happened.

• 1:09:31Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 1:09:32Speaker 04

  So, yeah, and the cover is like a paint by number of the actual album cover. So you can like, color it.

• 1:09:38Connor Wood?

  I love the album cover, by the way.

• 1:09:39Speaker 04

  Thanks, me too.

• 1:09:40Connor Wood?

  In my house.

• 1:09:41Speaker 04

  Oh, me too. Tidy. Shout out to Tidy.

• 1:09:44Brooke Averick?

  Shout out.

• 1:09:45Speaker 04

  She painted that.

• 1:09:46Connor Wood?

  Well, Lizzie, you are an angel.

• 1:09:48Brooke Averick?

  You're a girl.

• 1:09:49Speaker 04

  Stop. You guys are. Thanks for having me.

• 1:09:52Brooke Averick?

  Can't wait to see you in it.

• 1:09:53Speaker 04

  So fun. Oh, my God. Yeah, let's manifest. Make it happen.

• 1:09:56Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:57Connor Wood?

  All right, you guys, thank you for listening.

• 1:09:58Brooke Averick?

  Thank you.

• 1:09:59Connor Wood?

  And thank you, Lizzie, and we'll see you guys in the bonus.

• 1:10:02Brooke Averick?

  Woo. This week on Close Friends. Is this the opposite of the moon? Where are things heavier?

• 1:10:09Connor Wood?

  Density.

• 1:10:10Brooke Averick?

  Thank you. Plato would have lived in Silver Lake. Aristotle's view of a chair.

• 1:10:17Connor Wood?

  So boring.

• 1:10:20Connor Wood?

  There's not shit to do.

• 1:10:22Brooke Averick?

  Create groups of four. Oh, yeah, we've played this. Um.

• 1:10:28Connor Wood?

  Sign up on tmgstudios.tv to watch a full bonus episode.

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