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2:59 Speaker 05 How in the world could someone stoop that low and go to that extreme? Were you too cowardly just to tell me the truth?
3:25 Speaker 00 I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Betrayal, a show about the people we trust the most and the deceptions that change everything.
3:38 Speaker 00 A little while ago, a woman wrote into our show to share a story of betrayal. We're gonna call her Katie. She attached a voice memo to her email. Here's that voice memo.
3:50 Speaker 06 This is the story of a woman who couldn't give up on love. My mom has not been the luckiest in love. This is a story about my mom.
4:09 Speaker 00 After hearing this, we got on the phone with Katie and her mom, who were going to call Sydney. This is her story.
4:19 Speaker 00 Sydney grew up in the Midwest with her parents and brothers. From a young age, her dad introduced the kids to a life of adventure.
4:28 Speaker 05 He was a private pilot and I would go out to the airport with him and we would fly all over.
4:36 Speaker 00 Sydney, her brothers and her mom would pack into her dad's tiny airplane and hold on tight as it lifted off into the sky. Sydney loved flying.
4:46 Speaker 05 It felt like you were far above everything. You were in the sky with all the clouds and my father was in complete control. And so the trust I had was just beyond belief. I loved looking down at the earth and all the glory that's down there and you're just amazed.
5:08 Speaker 00 They were a work hard, play hard kind of family. After school and on weekends, Sydney worked at her family's restaurant.
5:16 Speaker 05 At 50 cents an hour.
5:18 Speaker 00 They served hamburgers and fries. The restaurant was painted white with bar stools lined up in a neat row.
5:25 Speaker 05 You had an awning where people pulled up in their cars and then someone would go out and take their order. They would fix it and then you'd go out and put a tray on their car.
5:41 Speaker 00 It was a picturesque childhood. But after graduating high school, Sydney's young adult life was marked by a lot of hardship. She married young and got pregnant with her first son. But her entrance into motherhood was immensely challenging. Her son was born with a terminal illness.
6:02 Speaker 05 I lost my son when he was two. And then I had gotten pregnant again and lost a stillborn.
6:13 Speaker 00 Sydney dealt with waves of overlapping grief after losing her children. It was an incredibly difficult time. In the years that followed, her marriage ended as well.
6:26 Speaker 00 When she was ready, Sydney had other relationships. She remarried and gave birth to her daughter Katie. But that marriage also ended in divorce.
6:37 Speaker 00 After dealing with all shades of heartbreak, Sydney decided to stay single. She thought maybe a true, deep romance just wasn't in the cards for her. And besides, her life had plenty of meaning and beauty without romantic love.
6:53 Speaker 05 I was very busy because I was traveling a lot. I had great friends. We would always do things together. Friendship to me is extremely important and I value it very highly.
7:08 Speaker 00 She also spent as much time as she could with her daughter Katie.
7:12 Speaker 05 I have the most amazing daughter. We're very, very close.
7:17 Speaker 00 Katie's an adult now with a daughter of her own.
7:20 Speaker 05 My daughter and my granddaughter are my whole life. I have the most amazing granddaughter. She's absolutely adorable and just as sweet as can be.
7:33 Speaker 00 When Sydney retired, she began traveling more often to visit her daughter and granddaughter. One day, she was boarding a flight to visit them. She found her seat and got comfortable.
7:43 Speaker 05 I tend to read when I'm on a flight. And I started to take out a book.
7:50 Speaker 00 That's when the man sitting next to her struck up a conversation. He asked her what she was reading.
7:58 Speaker 05 He started talking to me. And I was immediately intrigued by his mannerism and his kindness.
8:06 Speaker 00 His name was Dan. As the flight went on, the two kept chatting.
8:11 Speaker 05 He spoke so sweetly. And our conversation was lighthearted and humorous.
8:20 Speaker 00 Before long, Sidney forgot about her book altogether.
8:23 Speaker 05 We talked about just a little bit of everything. And he just seemed so kind and so forthcoming. And as we got closer to landing, he asked if I would mind if I gave him my phone number because he would like to stay in touch with me.
8:45 Speaker 00 Sidney gave him her number. She wasn't sure if she'd ever hear from him again. Maybe this was just a one-time, serendipitous connection. But then...
8:56 Speaker 05 He contacted me as soon as I got back home. And we talked several times on the phone. We would have these hour, two-hour-long conversations that just flowed so easily.
9:12 Speaker 00 Dan shared that he was also divorced.
9:15 Speaker 05 He said that his wife had left him 18 months prior. Then it got into more serious discussions about he had lost a grandchild and was going through that grieving process. I shared that I also had some tragedy in my life and that years ago, I had lost a child myself.
9:40 Speaker 00 The death of her children was not something she told many people about, but she felt safe opening up to Dan.
9:47 Speaker 05 I shared it because I wanted him to know that I understood exactly how he felt. I wasn't just saying that I understood. It was coming from the deepest part of my soul and my heart that I do understand. And you can trust me with that.
10:05 Speaker 00 Dan held everything she shared with care. The parallels in their grief brought them closer together.
10:13 Speaker 05 All of a sudden, we felt this bond. We're sharing things that are the utmost, deepest issues in our lives. And we're becoming very close within a very short period of time.
10:31 Speaker 00 When they met on the plane, Sydney was preparing to move closer to her daughter and granddaughter. It turned out, Dan lived in the area too. So once Sydney got settled into her new place, Dan called. He wanted to come see her.
10:46 Speaker 05 He came to the condo that I was renting, and I remember opening the door, and the look on his face was like, "Oh, wow, I can't believe I'm actually standing in front of him." We're just not talking on the phone anymore. This is real.
11:06 Speaker 00 She welcomed him in. The chemistry they had on the plane came rushing back.
11:12 Speaker 05 We just talked and talked and talked, and then we went out to grab something to eat, and then he came back the next morning, and the same thing happened.
11:23 Speaker 00 The next two days were like an extended first date.
11:26 Speaker 05 He'd come over in the morning, and we would spend the entire day together. We did a lot of outings together, and dinners together, and walking in the park. And then he would leave that evening.
11:40 Speaker 00 And after their marathon date wrapped up, they immediately started planning the next one.
11:46 Speaker 05 We started seeing each other more and more and more.
11:50 Speaker 00 They were eager to learn everything they could about each other. Soon, they knew the details, big and small, of each other's lives.
11:58 Speaker 05 He was an engineer. He was outgoing. He loved to laugh. He joked a lot. He was very gentle, very engaging, would listen, I mean intently, to everything I said, and took it to heart, and made me feel very, very wanted.
12:22 Speaker 00 Dan took Sydney completely by surprise. She had given up on finding a connection like this.
12:30 Speaker 05 I have to say, that was a new feeling for me.
12:36 Speaker 00 It felt like life was giving her one more shot at love, one more shot at being truly happy with someone. But there were still challenges in their relationship. Dan was really struggling with the grief of losing his grandchild and decided to see a counselor for support.
12:54 Speaker 05 He was telling the counselor the hard time he was having getting past this event. And then he mentioned, however, I met someone and I'm really excited and I'd like to see where this goes. And the counselor said, well, wait a minute. You're in the middle of a grieving process. I don't think this is the best time for you to get involved with a new relationship. I believe you need to work through the steps of grieving before you decide to move on. So let's do that first and just put it on pause.
13:34 Speaker 00 It struck Sydney as an overstep from the counselor. But she knew that Dan was deeply affected by his grandchild's death. Maybe it was weighing on him more than she knew. So she was understanding.
13:49 Speaker 05 I told him, the most important thing is for you to feel better and to get through this very difficult time in your life. So I will step aside.
14:00 Speaker 00 So Dan and Sydney decided to take a break.
14:03 Speaker 05 It was difficult. I missed him. We didn't talk at all.
14:10 Speaker 00 Sydney tried going on a first date with someone new, but it wasn't the same as it was with Dan. After a few weeks, Dan called her out of the blue.
14:21 Speaker 05 And he said, I desperately need to talk to you. And I said, are you sure about that? I thought we weren't supposed to see each other. And he said, it's about that. I can't do it. I miss you too much. I don't care what the counselor says. I'm ready. I want to start seeing you again.
14:40 Speaker 00 The two picked up right where they left off.
14:43 Speaker 05 It was totally blissful. We just had the best time. It was just laughter and fun and we got along so beautifully and never, ever once had a disagreement or an argument or anything. It was just wonderful.
15:00 Speaker 00 The weeks turned to months. Their relationship became deeper, more stable, and more committed.
15:07 Speaker 05 We were sitting at a restaurant over dinner and he just looked at me and said, "I want to be together forever. I just believe that we were meant to be together." I had fallen very hard for him and I remember being extremely happy.
15:33 Speaker 00 Sydney introduced Dan to her daughter Katie.
15:36 Speaker 05 My daughter really liked him as well. And I remember I had to go into the hospital for some surgery and he came to the hospital and he sat with my daughter and they spent the time together waiting for me in the waiting room. They just really hit it off and she really liked him.
15:54 Speaker 00 As Sydney recovered from surgery, Dan was facing some health challenges of his own. He had high cholesterol and saw a cardiologist regularly. One day, he opened up to Sydney about his doctor's concerns.
16:08 Speaker 05 The doctor had found an irregular beat in his heart, but they didn't think it was anything drastic. And they said that he had had a little bit more plaque around his heart, but they would raise his medication and he should be fine.
16:25 Speaker 00 Dan didn't seem worried, so Sydney tried not to worry too much either. A week later, Dan made plans to visit his brothers.
16:34 Speaker 05 They were going to get together to discuss his mother's will before she passed away, so they wouldn't have to worry about anything.
16:43 Speaker 00 Dan would drive a few hours away to meet up with them and stay for the weekend. Before he headed out, he met Sydney for a lunch date.
16:52 Speaker 05 I wished him a great trip and he said, "I will call you every day, let you know how everything goes."
16:59 Speaker 00 A few hours later, Sydney's phone rang.
17:02 Speaker 05 It was Dan. He had stopped for gas and he already missed me.
17:09 Speaker 05 And then he called me when he got down there.
17:12 Speaker 00 It was sweet to see how much Dan missed her after only a few hours. Sydney went about her day as usual. At this point, Sydney and Dan had been talking every day for five months. He always texted or called her to say goodnight. But on this night, she didn't hear from him.
17:32 Speaker 05 I tried texting, he didn't answer. I tried calling, he didn't answer.
17:39 Speaker 00 Sydney went to sleep feeling anxious. When she woke up the next morning, Dan still hadn't reached out. She checked her phone all morning and afternoon, but still, nothing.
17:53 Speaker 05 The last time I talked to him, he said he had arrived safely. And I thought, this is so strange. Why would he not contact me? And then I started worrying. What happened? Something must have happened. Did he have an automobile accident? And you start making up stories.
18:15 Speaker 00 The whole weekend passed without any word from Dan. She started to wonder, was this his way of breaking up with her?
18:23 Speaker 05 I've heard of people ending relationships kind of like that, all of a sudden, but not him. I trusted him way too much.
18:38 Speaker 00 The silence went on for a week and a half. She didn't have any way of contacting his family. She just hoped that if something had happened to Dan, they would find a way to reach her.
18:52 Speaker 05 I was going out of my mind, not knowing what happened.
18:57 Speaker 00 One afternoon, Sydney was getting ready to spend time with her daughter when she heard her phone buzz. Her heart leapt, hoping it might be Dan. Instead, it was a text from a number she didn't recognize. She started reading. It was Dan's brother. She'd never met him before, but he was writing with bad news.
19:18 Speaker 05 He said that he was so sorry to have to tell me this, but Dan had a heart attack.
19:27 Speaker 05 And he passed away.
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21:44 Speaker 00 Sydney's boyfriend Dan was on a trip with his brothers when he suddenly stopped texting and calling her back. Sydney didn't hear from him for days and was beginning to panic. Then she got a text from his brother.
21:57 Speaker 05 Saying that he was so sorry to have to tell me this, but Dan had a heart attack. And he passed away.
22:11 Speaker 00 Dan's brother explained that it happened suddenly one night on their trip when Dan was heading to bed. He said goodnight to his brothers and went upstairs.
22:22 Speaker 05 And that was the last that he heard until he heard a big crash upstairs where he fell. And when he ran upstairs, he called 911, tried to revive his brother, and couldn't revive him. And by the time he got to the hospital, he passed on the way.
22:44 Speaker 00 He said that in the first few days following Dan's death, he hadn't been able to find Dan's phone. Without it, he didn't have Sydney's number, so he had no way to contact her. He felt horrible that it had taken so long to reach her.
23:01 Speaker 05 His brother said, "I know how hard this has to be on you. Between my mother and his kids, everybody is just devastated. I'm sorry that we couldn't reach out to you as soon as it happened, but like I said, we couldn't find his phone."
23:24 Speaker 00 That's where his message ended. Sydney broke down.
23:29 Speaker 05 I was a mess. I was crying. I was out of my mind.
23:35 Speaker 00 Then her daughter Katie showed up at her house. They were supposed to spend the afternoon together.
23:42 Speaker 05 She walked in and I just screamed.
23:47 Speaker 05 I told her what happened and she dropped everything and just came to me and tried to comfort me the best she could, but she was upset too because she really liked him.
24:02 Speaker 00 A heart attack. Sydney remembered Dan's cardiologist's concerns, but she had no idea things were this serious.
24:10 Speaker 05 I was just devastated, absolutely devastated.
24:17 Speaker 00 The next few days were dark, especially when Sydney found out the family had already held a ceremony and buried Dan in the family plot. Kitty also reached out to Dan's brother, and he did his best to be there for her and Sydney as he dealt with his own grief.
24:35 Speaker 05 His brother responded to my daughter, saying, "I'm so sorry this has happened, and I know how much he loved your mother, and he told me he knew how much he loved me, and he spoke about me all the time."
24:48 Speaker 00 Hearing Dan's brother talk about him in past tense made the reality sink in. Dan wasn't coming back.
24:56 Speaker 05 I didn't know what to do. I was just... I was frantic.
25:03 Speaker 00 When Dan had been by her side, the world felt bright and full of possibility. Now, everything felt heavy. She missed Dan's laugh, their long conversations, their shared hikes. Most of all, she just missed him.
25:20 Speaker 05 It was horrible. I'm not a person that gets depressed. I've never been depressed in my life, but I felt like I was going to get to that point.
25:29 Speaker 00 She turned over the details again and again.
25:33 Speaker 05 Things didn't add up in my brain. I kept thinking, "How could this have happened? It doesn't make sense."
25:43 Speaker 00 But as time went on, she had to find acceptance.
25:47 Speaker 05 He's gone. It is what it is. I can't change it.
25:52 Speaker 00 For the first month after Dan's death, it was hard for Sydney to get out of bed. One day, one of Sydney's close friends, Peter, reached out to her. His whole family was going on a tropical vacation, and he wanted her to come with them.
26:07 Speaker 05 He said, "You need to get out of here, and maybe getting away would help mend my broken heart a little bit."
26:17 Speaker 00 Sydney decided to go. On the trip, while the rest of the group went on excursions, Sydney stayed behind and laid by the pool by herself.
26:27 Speaker 05 I remember screaming up in the sky going, "God, why did you do this? Please, I have to get past this, and what do I do?"
26:36 Speaker 00 It felt good to get some emotion out. That week gave Sydney the space to begin to process Dan's death.
26:45 Speaker 00 Sydney wanted to try and visit Dan's grave. Early on, she asked his brother about it, but he gave her a complicated answer.
26:54 Speaker 05 He gave me this long explanation of it was in some family grave out in the forest, and there was a private gate to go through. It just sounded so strange.
27:09 Speaker 00 Talking to Dan's family was hard. It often left her with more questions than answers. Eventually, she stopped reaching out.
27:18 Speaker 05 I decided that I would try and go on with my life, even though it was very hard.
27:25 Speaker 00 Sydney thought that with time, life without Dan would get easier. But a whole year went by, and as the seasons passed, Sydney was still struggling to move on. It was hard to find any closure with how suddenly Dan had died. She had never gotten to say goodbye. There was so much left unsaid. Her friend Peter told her about a strategy that helped him get through hard times in his own life.
27:54 Speaker 05 When things really get hard, or you're facing something really difficult, throw it out to the universe, and the universe will somehow take care of you. And I've always thought, yeah, right, whatever.
28:12 Speaker 00 Sydney was skeptical, but Peter wasn't kidding. He suggested she write everything she wished she could say to Dan in a letter to him. It might help her process her feelings and maybe get some small sense of closure.
28:27 Speaker 05 I was having such a hard time getting past everything. So I thought, you know what, what would it hurt? What would it hurt to do this? And I thought, but how do I do it? And then I realized I still had his email address. So I thought, okay, I'm gonna try this.
28:49 Speaker 00 So she grabbed her laptop and got set up at her kitchen counter. And then she began to write.
28:57 Speaker 05 Dan, I really still love you and I miss you. I know you are gone, but I just want you to know I love you. I will always love you. I will never forget you. My heart is broken. It will always be broken. Wherever you are in the universe, I hope you are well taken care of. I just hope that your soul is happy. And just know that your heart will be with mine forever. After I composed it, it took me a minute to hit send. And I thought, is this really ridiculous or what?
29:41 Speaker 05 And I thought, no, I'm gonna try it. And when I hit send, I just felt better. It was amazing. It felt like a huge brick was lifted from my body. Like, wow, this really worked.
30:01 Speaker 00 She felt a sense of lightness, a closure she had been chasing for almost a year and a half. A few days later, Sydney was getting ready to go over to Katie's house.
30:12 Speaker 05 And I thought, oh, I'm gonna check my emails before I go. And all of a sudden, I see a response from Dan's email.
30:26 Speaker 00 Sydney did a double take.
30:28 Speaker 05 I'm like, wait a minute, I can't be reading this right. Must be from his brother. So I opened it and I began reading. And it was just complete sheer shock of horror. The very first line of this email said, Darling Sydney, I have sinned against God and you. Please forgive me. I am not dead.
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33:18 Speaker 00 To help process her partner Dan's death, Sydney decided to put everything she wished she could tell him in an email as a final goodbye. She'd been dealing with this grief for almost a year and a half and was ready to move on. She wrote her message and hit send. She finally felt a sense of closure. But then, a few days later, she was checking her email when she saw something impossible. Dan had responded.
33:50 Speaker 05 I'm like, wait a minute, I can't be reading this right. Must be from his brother. So I opened it and I began reading and it was just complete sheer shock of horror. The very first line of this email said, Darling Sydney, I have sinned against God and you. Please forgive me. I am not dead. And I just sat there and went, this is a joke. This is literally a joke from somebody.
34:29 Speaker 00 But as she kept reading, it became horrifyingly clear. He was very much alive and he was writing with an explanation.
34:38 Speaker 05 It continued to say, I never got divorced. I am still married. I knew that you would never see me if you knew I was married.
34:54 Speaker 00 Not only had Dan's death been a lie, their life together had been a lie too. He had been married the entire time he was with Sydney.
35:03 Speaker 05 And the time that we spent together, his wife was back in the Midwest, taking care of a mother that was very, very ill.
35:16 Speaker 00 He'd been living a double life, and he couldn't keep up both. So according to Dan's email, his brothers stepped in to suggest a plan to end his relationship with Sydney.
35:29 Speaker 05 None of his family wanted him to get divorced. And they said, "Well, we will come up with a plan." And the plan was to fake his death.
35:42 Speaker 00 Sydney stared at the email in shock. She couldn't comprehend the words "fake" and "death" together. She thought she might get sick.
35:52 Speaker 05 He said, "I know you didn't deserve it," but that was the only way we knew how to end it with me.
35:59 Speaker 00 Sydney drove to her daughter's house in a daze.
36:03 Speaker 05 She looked at me and said, "Mom, are you okay?" And I said, "You need to follow me in your bedroom because I have something to tell you." And I told her, and she just couldn't believe it.
36:15 Speaker 00 Under the heartbreak and confusion, there was rage. Sydney felt deeply manipulated.
36:21 Speaker 05 There's no words to express how horrible and deceived I felt. How in the world could someone stoop that low
36:34 Speaker 05 and go to that extreme? How could anyone treat anyone like that?
36:43 Speaker 00 And this wasn't just anyone. This was Dan, the man who made her believe in love again. The man that just days ago, she would have done anything to hear from again. Her head was spinning. During the year of her life, she had spent grieving Dan's death and struggling to get out of bed. Sydney had to remind herself that there was nothing she could have done to prevent him from dying. But now she found out, this had all been a choice. His choice. He let her suffer alone and let her grieve his death while he carried on living. And he did all of this knowing how much loss Sydney had already endured in her lifetime.
37:25 Speaker 05 Death is horrible. It's the worst thing that can happen to a loved one. It sent me into despair and loneliness and unbelievable grief.
37:38 Speaker 00 The whole thing was horrific, but it was also ludicrous. It was so absurd that she found herself torn between crying and laughing.
37:49 Speaker 05 Now all of a sudden, I find out he's risen from the dead. Like, I mean, he couldn't just break up with me. He had to derive this plan that broke my heart into pieces.
38:05 Speaker 00 She sat with everything for a few days, letting the reality of the situation catch up with her.
38:11 Speaker 05 I just couldn't believe it. I was horrified. I was upset. I was angry and I just cried.
38:18 Speaker 00 She thought of Dan's wife and she felt horrible. She knew this must be painful for her too. Sydney kept rereading Dan's confession, not sure what to do next.
38:30 Speaker 05 Do I respond? What do I do?
38:35 Speaker 00 For three nights, Sydney lay in bed unable to sleep.
38:39 Speaker 05 And finally, I decided to reply.
38:43 Speaker 00 She began drafting her email, and everything she had been feeling came pouring out of her.
38:49 Speaker 05 Were you too cowardly just to tell me the truth? You could have just told me the truth, and that wouldn't have hurt near as bad. Do you even have the slightest idea of what your charade did to me and my daughter? Did you lie about everything you ever told me? I pray that you did not lie about losing your grandson.
39:19 Speaker 05 I wish I could say that I'd never met you, but that wouldn't have been accurate.
39:27 Speaker 05 I'm glad we met because I finally learned how much I was capable of loving so completely and unconditionally and selflessly. And for that, I'm gonna thank you.
39:42 Speaker 05 And I ended it.
39:45 Speaker 00 In the months that followed, Cindy was plunged into a new type of grief. She no longer had to face Dan's death. She was now faced with the reality of Dan's life and how he'd chosen to spend it.
39:58 Speaker 05 It took me a very, very long time to get past the anger and the hurt. I had so many unanswered questions. I was still extremely hurt and tormented by what Dan had revealed and what he had done to me. So I decided, one last time, to reach out to Dan.
40:24 Speaker 00 She wrote him another email, asking for a full explanation of what he'd done.
40:31 Speaker 05 I was writing it for myself because I was still angry with myself for believing everything he told me and not analyzing it any better than I did.
40:44 Speaker 00 A few days later, Dan responded. And in his email, he revealed that his lies extended far beyond his death and his marriage.
40:53 Speaker 05 He explained that he wasn't who I thought he was. His real last name was different. He lived somewhere else other than where he told me he lived. His kids' names weren't what they told me they were. Everything he told me was a lie, except for the fact of how he felt. He was begging me to meet him so he could finally tell me the whole story and tell me the truth about everything he did and why he did it.
41:28 Speaker 00 Sidney agreed to meet him. A few days later, he knocked on her door. And when she saw Dan in person, she was overwhelmed. For over a year, she wanted nothing more than for him to miraculously reappear, to talk to him one more time.
41:46 Speaker 05 All the grieving, and here he is. He's back.
41:51 Speaker 00 He said he was going to come clean and show her everything.
41:55 Speaker 05 He gave me a copy of his driver's license, a copy of his passport, to see what his real name was, who his kids really were.
42:05 Speaker 00 Then Dan pulled out a stack of business cards.
42:09 Speaker 05 He had a fake company, fake business cards, a fake name, fake email address, fake phone number. He traveled quite a bit, and he would give those out to women that he met.
42:26 Speaker 00 Their airplane meet-cute had always felt so one of a kind. Now, she saw it as part of Dan's pattern. He had lied to so many women.
42:39 Speaker 00 But Dan insisted with Sydney, it was different. When they met, it was clear to him that what they shared was real. He knew he shouldn't have let their relationship get as serious as it did, but he couldn't help himself.
42:55 Speaker 05 He had fallen in love with me and didn't know how to get out of it. He couldn't apologize enough and professed his love and asked if I would consider taking him back after all that.
43:16 Speaker 00 Dan admitted that he'd been a coward. He knew what he did was wrong. He had wanted to be with Sydney all along. He just couldn't find a way out of his marriage and his life. But now, he was ready to risk everything to chase what he really wanted.
43:32 Speaker 05 Her. Then he takes out a divorce decree, and it shows that he'd just filed for divorce.
43:42 Speaker 05 Filing for divorce was his way to prove to me that it was truly over this time. And started crying while he's telling me how much he loved me and so sorry for deceiving me and hurting me. And he just wasn't strong enough to confront what he needed to do.
44:07 Speaker 00 Dan laid everything out in front of her. He knew his honesty would cost him, but it was worth it to him if Sydney would consider giving him a second chance.
44:18 Speaker 05 I didn't know what to do. There were so many questions, but I still, I loved him. I mean, I never stopped loving him.
44:27 Speaker 00 It felt like a miracle that Dan was sitting in front of her at all. The thing she had mourned for the last year was now possible, a future with Dan. And now, he wanted to start a new life with her.
44:41 Speaker 05 I wanted what we had again, because I'd never had that before. I'd made so many mistakes in my lifetime with relationships. Nothing ever worked out. And I thought, finally, finally, it was going to be what I wanted.
45:02 Speaker 00 Dan left her house and Sydney was left to grapple with the strange situation she found herself in. A few weeks later.
45:12 Speaker 05 He showed up at my door with all his belongings and everything and said, "The divorce is going forward and she's moved on. I've moved out of the house. Can I stay with you and can we try this again?" And low and behold, I took him back.
45:35 Speaker 00 Right away, that effortless joy Sydney always felt with Dan came flooding back.
45:42 Speaker 05 It was like a storybook. We couldn't spend enough time together. We started traveling together. We had hiked the Grand Canyon. It was amazing.
45:54 Speaker 00 Despite everything Dan had done, Sydney felt like they were on the other side. They had rebuilt the trust through dozens of hard and honest conversations. As unusual as their love story was, to Sydney, the relationship was stronger than ever.
46:10 Speaker 05 We were living together. He was going through his divorce. I knew when he was going to court. He didn't hide anything from me. We were finally open and honest and happy.
46:27 Speaker 00 In September, Dan and Sydney went on a trip to Denali National Park in Alaska to go hiking. It was just a few weeks before Dan's divorce was set to be finalized, and they were looking forward to leaving that painful chapter of their relationship behind them.
46:44 Speaker 05 And three days before his divorce was due to be final, he came home from work and said he had just seen his lawyer and that he had canceled the divorce.
47:02 Speaker 00 They had just sat down for dinner together. Sydney stopped eating and stared at Dan, stunned.
47:10 Speaker 05 What do you mean you canceled the divorce? And he said, well, she was going to take 75% of his wealth.
47:20 Speaker 05 He proceeded to tell me, "My money is too important. I can't lose everything I've worked for." So he informed me that he canceled the divorce and he was moving back home.
47:36 Speaker 00 Dan sat calmly at the dinner table, but to Sydney, it felt like the room was spinning.
47:43 Speaker 05 And I just sat there and I looked at him and I just remember saying, "You're doing this to me again?" I screamed and I said, "Get out."
47:58 Speaker 05 And he said, "Well, I'll make sure I'm out in the morning." I said, "No, you won't. You will make sure you are out now." "I never, ever want to see you, hear from you, repeat your name again."
48:14 Speaker 00 Dan stood up and began collecting his things.
48:17 Speaker 05 And he stopped and said, "This isn't what I want." And I remember just laughing in his face going, "I don't care what you want. This is what I want.
48:32 Speaker 05 And you are leaving now."
48:36 Speaker 00 Dan walked out the door and Sydney closed it behind him. She would never open the door to him again.
48:44 Speaker 05 I've spent the past four years getting past what happened. I dated, I had relationships.
48:55 Speaker 05 Nothing ever worked out.
48:57 Speaker 00 But as her daughter said in her voice memo to us, "This is a story about a woman who couldn't give up on love."
49:06 Speaker 05 Remember my friend I told you about? My very, very special friend?
49:12 Speaker 00 Peter, the friend who encouraged Sydney to throw how she was feeling out to the universe.
49:18 Speaker 05 Well, we're together.
49:22 Speaker 05 We're actually engaged. He's absolutely amazing. I'm very happy, and I couldn't ask for anything more. There's a bright light after this horrible story. That's him. So he threw it out to the universe.
49:41 Speaker 00 Maybe he was right about that strategy after all.
49:45 Speaker 05 My life finally turned around. Sometimes you have to go through really bad things to really then appreciate the best. And I have the best right now.
49:59 Speaker 00 Sydney endured so much pain in her relationship with Dan. But there was something she gained from the experience that Dan can never take away.
50:08 Speaker 05 I learned how to love, and I had never learned that before. In your darkest moments, it's amazing how strong you can become.
50:20 Speaker 00 We end every weekly episode with the same question. Why do you want to share your story?
50:27 Speaker 05 I was angry at myself for a long time. And I kept thinking, how could I have fallen for this, not once, but twice? Why did it happen to me? And the only answer I had was that I fell in love with him. I just wanted to believe. I wanted to trust. None of us are stupid. We're all smart people. And we gotta quit telling ourselves we're not when things like this happen. All I did was want to love someone.
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51:18 Speaker 06 I don't know this person. What I had in my mind is not true. He's not the person I thought he was. I have no idea what he was capable of doing.
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