"ZODL is to Zcash What Coinbase Was to Bitcoin" | Josh Swihart on ZEC’s Awakening

What happens when every payment, wallet, and onchain interaction becomes searchable by governments, companies, adversaries, and AI? Josh Swihart, founder and CEO of Zcash Open Development Lab, joins David to explain why Zcash is having a major privacy comeback, how ZODL and the Zashi wallet helped unlock real shielded adoption, why the shielded pool may be the most important ZEC metric, and what it will take for private money to become too big to kill.---📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium---BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS:🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKEThttps://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast🧭OKX | TRADE, EARN, PAY to OKX | 120M+ USERS WORLDWIDEhttps://app.okx.com/join/USBANKLESS🦊 METAMASK | DOWNLOAD NOWhttps://go.metamask.io/BL-Pod-Download🌐BRIX | EMERGING MARKET YIELDhttps://bankless.cc/brix🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTShttps://thedefireport.io/bankless---TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro4:17 Privacy in the AI Era6:19 Crypto’s Missing Privacy Layer9:49 The Political Fight for Privacy14:42 Can Crypto Retain Privacy?16:47 From Zashi to ZODL19:48 The Zcash Reawakening21:41 Balaji, Funding, and the Mission24:49 Product Market Fit for Shielded ZEC27:51 ZODL's Role in the Zcash Stack29:36 The Zcash Roadmap32:56 What Is ZEC and is it Undervalued?36:56 The Shielded Pool Explained45:12 The $25M ZODL Raise47:16 Compliance and Shielded ZEC51:25 Institutions vs Cypherpunk Values53:58 Personal Privacy in an AI World---RESOURCESJosh Swiharthttps://x.com/jswihartZODLhttps://x.com/zodl_app---Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here:https://www.bankless.com/disclosures