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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Bankless

1h 24m

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Ethereum may be one of the most underappreciated assets. In this conversation, Michael McGuiness and Vivek Raman lay out the case for ETH as “productive money”, a monetary asset with the store-of-value properties of gold and Bitcoin, plus the ability to compound through network activity. We unpack the $250K ETH thesis, why traditional DCF models miss the bigger picture, and why Ethereum’s role as the settlement layer for a tokenized economy could unlock massive monetary premium.------📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium------🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKEThttps://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 🪐GALAXYONE | SOLANA STAKINGhttps://bankless.cc/GalaxyOne🦊 METAMASK | DOWNLOAD NOWhttps://go.metamask.io/BL-Pod-Download 💰NEXO | YIELD + CREDIT LINEhttps://bankless.cc/nexo🧭OKX | TRADE, EARN, PAYhttps://bankless.cc/OKX🌐BRIX | EMERGING MARKET YIELDhttps://bankless.cc/brix ------TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro4:45 $250K ETH?6:04 How to Price ETH8:15 ETH’s Monetary Premium10:25 What Differentiates ETH13:54 The Path to $250K ETH16:35 Menger’s Monetary Attributes20:28 Scarcity24:58 Fungibility26:43 Divisibility27:45 Portability28:28 Durability34:30 Verifiability35:27 Censorship Resistance37:00 ETH is Productive Money41:39 How is ETH Productive?46:40 Ethereum’s Tollbooth51:28 Counterparty Risk53:48 Productive Money vs Dead Capital58:03 Pitching Productive Money to Wall Street1:00:08 Why is ETH Underappreciated?1:04:19 Wall Street ETH Investors1:11:28 Other L1s1:14:06 Why Not Just Buy the S&P?1:15:00 Ethereum Technical Risks1:17:20 How Does ETH Get to $250K?1:23:18 Closing & Disclaimers------RESOURCESETH is Productive Moneyhttps://www.productivemoney.org/ Michael McGuinesshttps://x.com/mikemcg0 Vivek Ramanhttps://x.com/VivekVentures Etherealizehttps://www.etherealize.com/ ------Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here:https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠