Pod Insights Bandsplain BONUS: Learning British Slang with Matt Helders of the Arctic Monkeys About this episode In honor of the holidays, we have a very special bonus episode for our fanatics. Yasi talks all things British slang with Arctic Monkeys drummer and former Kappa tracksuit-wearing lad, Matt Helders. Do you know the difference between a lad, a chav, a bloke, a bird and a geezer? Listen along as Matt quizzes Yasi on all the ways you can say “proper bladdered.” We think you’ll be dead chuffed with this one, mate.
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Host: Yasi Salek @yasisalek
Guest: Matt Helders @matthelders
Producer: Liz Sánchez
Audio Editor: Adrian Bridges
Additional Production Supervision: Justin Sayles
Theme Song: Bethany Cosentino
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2:07 Yasi Salek? Hello and welcome to Bandsplain. I am your host, Yasi Salek. Usually, this is a show where I invite an expert guest on to help me explain a cult band or iconic artist. Today's episode is a little different. Just a wee bonus episode for you guys in which we come together to learn some British slang with the help of our special guest, Matt Helders of the band The Arctic Monkeys.
2:36 Yasi Salek? Matt, do you have your list prepared?
2:38 Speaker 05 I do. I've been thinking about this for...
2:41 Yasi Salek? I appreciate you doing this.
2:42 Speaker 05 I put some time into this.
2:43 Yasi Salek? You did kind of jump at the chance to humiliate me and embarrass me in a public setting, and I appreciate that.
2:48 Speaker 05 Some would say volunteer.
2:50 Yasi Salek? Really?
2:51 Speaker 05 I want to be there in person and see this. I have nothing to do except come and embarrass you.
2:57 Yasi Salek? All right, should we get started?
2:59 Speaker 05 Yeah, and I'm gonna, I feel like I'm starting pretty simple with bloke.
3:05 Yasi Salek? Okay, love this one, because a bloke is just a guy, right? However, let me ask you a question. The taxonomy, because like, all guys are blokes, right? Like, you're a bloke.
3:16 Speaker 05 Yeah.
3:17 Yasi Salek? But a lad?
3:19 Speaker 05 Yeah.
3:19 Yasi Salek? Not all lads.
3:21 Speaker 05 Accrual equal.
3:23 Yasi Salek? Hashtag not all lads. But all lads are blokes, but all blokes are not lads.
3:31 Speaker 05 Right, yeah.
3:31 Yasi Salek? Is that correct?
3:32 Speaker 05 I would say so.
3:33 Yasi Salek? Do you identify as a lad?
3:34 Speaker 05 You know what it kind of is as well, though? It's like, if you, it's sometimes the way you say it, but lad would definitely be more used like, oh, he's a bit of a lad. And that'd be like, Jack the Lad, or a lad about town.
3:46 Yasi Salek? Jack the Lad?
3:47 Speaker 05 Yeah, Jack the Lad. I'm sure it comes from that, where it's like...
3:49 Yasi Salek? Is that like Johnny Nomates, where like, it doesn't matter what the person's name is, he's just Jack the Lad?
3:54 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:55 Yasi Salek? So, his name is not actually Jack?
3:56 Speaker 05 I'm sure it came from some actual Jack.
3:57 Yasi Salek? Got it.
3:58 Speaker 05 But a lad would be someone, yeah, who's just like, I should know the American equivalent by now, but...
4:03 Yasi Salek? I think it's like, bro.
4:05 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, it would, yeah, be a bit of a bro.
4:06 Yasi Salek? Kind of. You don't have like a one-to-one.
4:07 Speaker 05 Yeah, it would be a bit of a bro.
4:09 Yasi Salek? Because a lad's kind of like a football hooligan, they start fights in the terrace.
4:14 Speaker 05 Yeah lad, and then you'd have chav amongst that.
4:17 Yasi Salek? Chav are the ones that wear the tracksuits.
4:20 Speaker 05 Yeah.
4:20 Yasi Salek? Kappa.
4:21 Speaker 05 Chav within a lad kappa, you'd get some, as long as it like all matches and you look like you might have stolen a car.
4:26 Yasi Salek? Can chavs be from anywhere or they?
4:29 Speaker 05 Yeah, that's a good one.
4:30 Yasi Salek? That's not a regional.
4:30 Speaker 05 Up and down the country.
4:31 Yasi Salek? Got it.
4:32 Speaker 05 You get chavs everywhere.
4:33 Yasi Salek? Look at this.
4:33 Speaker 05 I've been accused of being a chav.
4:35 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
4:35 Speaker 05 In my time, my early days.
4:36 Yasi Salek? You had some kappa ripoff things.
4:37 Speaker 05 I had some kappa, I had a big windbreaker phase.
4:41 Yasi Salek? A cog- coggle.
4:42 Speaker 05 Cogle.
4:43 Yasi Salek? Cogle.
4:43 Speaker 05 Yeah, see, I should have used that one, cogle. But you knew what it was, you just didn't know how to say it.
4:47 Yasi Salek? I had to look it up.
4:48 Speaker 05 So bloke, lad, they can all be, yeah, related. Bloke probably is older as well, like a lad could be a kid. You wouldn't call a kid a bloke.
4:56 Yasi Salek? You wouldn't ca- call a kid a bloke.
4:57 Speaker 05 But you'd be like, so lad, you'd be like, lads and lasses would be boys and girls.
5:02 Yasi Salek? Right. But that doesn't mean they're football hooligans being a bloke.
5:05 Speaker 05 Exactly. So that's what it does. So it is how you use it. So like, my mom might be like, oh, you know, Steve had a kid. I was like, what did he have? And she'd be like, I had a little lad. That doesn't mean he's gonna steal cars or like.
5:16 Yasi Salek? But she wouldn't say Liam Gallagher, what a, what a laddie lad that is.
5:19 Speaker 05 Well, no, but she might use the tone and be like, it's a bit of a lad.
5:22 Yasi Salek? Oh, so she knows.
5:23 Speaker 05 Yeah.
5:23 Yasi Salek? That's like a real universal.
5:25 Speaker 05 Yeah.
5:26 Yasi Salek? What about a geezer?
5:27 Speaker 05 I was gonna do geezer.
5:29 Yasi Salek? Oh yeah, let's do it.
5:30 Speaker 05 But geezer would be a similar way actually, but that could be a bit, um, because you can add to the beginning of that, you could be like, he's a dodgy geezer.
5:38 Yasi Salek? Right.
5:38 Speaker 05 Which means he's up to no good.
5:40 Yasi Salek? What if you, can you be like, what a hot geezer?
5:43 Speaker 05 No, I don't think you would. He might happen to be.
5:46 Yasi Salek? It's always a derogatory.
5:48 Speaker 05 Pretty like negative or.
5:49 Yasi Salek? Okay.
5:50 Speaker 05 Like, someone might call their friend, like another guy might call their friend a geezer, just being a bit like, you know, he's a bit edgy. It might not necessarily be, he's frowning upon him.
6:00 Yasi Salek? Got it.
6:00 Speaker 05 But a dodgy geezer, because a diamond geezer is like a, he's cool with the, I'm like, oh, he's great, he's a diamond geezer.
6:07 Yasi Salek? Diamond geezer.
6:08 Speaker 05 So I suppose it doesn't always meet, again, it's how you use it, but I think, yeah, like, on the surface, it's not necessarily good.
6:13 Yasi Salek? Okay, if I was keeking with my girls and I was like, that's a fit bloke?
6:18 Speaker 05 Fit bloke, yeah.
6:19 Yasi Salek? Okay.
6:19 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fit bloke.
6:20 Yasi Salek? I'm keeping that in my pocket for when I go across the pond to find my husband, which you have failed to do.
6:26 Speaker 05 Yeah, we're still working on it.
6:27 Yasi Salek? Okay, great.
6:28 Speaker 05 It's never too late.
6:29 Yasi Salek? Well, it does at some point become too late, but go on, go on.
6:33 Speaker 05 Okay, well then I've got, people everywhere say this, but I just, I always hear it in a northern accent. And it is daft.
6:39 Yasi Salek? Daft means like stupid.
6:41 Speaker 05 Yes.
6:41 Yasi Salek? But is it like, you know how there's like ways to say like stupid, but it's like, oh.
6:46 Speaker 05 It could be silly as well. It's probably more silly. Because again, you could be like.
6:51 Yasi Salek? Like it's not you fucking idiot.
6:53 Speaker 05 No, no, but you could, well, it depends, because you could be like you daft cunt. And that would be like bad.
6:58 Yasi Salek? Cunt is a different, that should be on your list, honestly. It's a whole different meaning over in your part of town.
7:03 Speaker 05 That's true. Yeah, because that can be quite casually used. But you can also be like, for example, if we're having a meal and it's all like northern people. And one of us offers to pay, which probably wouldn't happen up north, to be honest, but.
7:16 Yasi Salek? Okay, northern people are cheap.
7:18 Speaker 05 And I wanna pay, yeah. But I wanna be the one to pay for it. I'd be like, don't be daft, put your wallet away.
7:22 Yasi Salek? Oh, don't be daft. Yeah, it's kind of like, don't be.
7:24 Speaker 05 So you can be like silly, don't be silly, I'm getting this.
7:26 Yasi Salek? Sorry, you guys are tight.
7:28 Speaker 05 Tight, yeah, tight, yeah. We're known to be a bit tight.
7:30 Yasi Salek? Yeah, I'm learning a new language.
7:32 Speaker 05 Wanker.
7:33 Yasi Salek? This word for me is like pornography, do you know what I mean? Where it's like, I know it when I see it. But it's very difficult to define.
7:41 Speaker 05 And, well, and to be honest, I thought, when I wrote it down, I thought, how will I even explain this?
7:45 Yasi Salek? Exactly.
7:46 Speaker 05 Because it comes from wank, which would just be to masturbate.
7:49 Yasi Salek? Right.
7:50 Speaker 05 No, no, then it's like jerk off, like he's a jerk off.
7:52 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
7:53 Speaker 05 Which always sounds funny to me too, because that's like an act, an act.
7:56 Yasi Salek? Yeah, it's not, it's not the verb.
7:59 Speaker 05 Yeah, exactly, yeah. But yeah, but you'd be right. So that one, if you're a wanker.
8:04 Yasi Salek? That's a great one.
8:05 Speaker 05 You know, like, it isn't really nice to say.
8:06 Yasi Salek? It's really nice. It really rolls off the tongue.
8:08 Speaker 05 And because it's so English, I remember them saying it on like Fresh Prince of Bel Air and getting away with it. That's what I've always liked about like English, like swear words.
8:15 Yasi Salek? Oh yeah, we could get away with it.
8:16 Speaker 05 Because you can then say it on like Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
8:18 Yasi Salek? Now, if I cannot say it wanker, can I say winker? Or I just sound, I sound like a wank, I sound like a wanker.
8:27 Speaker 05 Yeah, no, it's funny, yeah, it's like, it's like when Americans say, let's go for a pint. It always sounds a lot funnier.
8:34 Yasi Salek? How do you say it?
8:35 Speaker 05 No, I would say that, but like in an American accent.
8:37 Yasi Salek? Let's go for a pint.
8:39 Speaker 05 Yeah, you wouldn't. You just says go for a beer.
8:41 Yasi Salek? It's it's just like so humiliating because it's not just that I have an American accent. I also have the dumb bitch vocal fry on top.
8:49 Speaker 05 But and it's so it's not it's unfair to you because all you're doing is saying the same words. But it's a stunt.
8:55 Yasi Salek? Wanker.
8:56 Speaker 05 But wanker, yeah, wanker.
8:57 Yasi Salek? And then also the corollary that you could call something wank.
9:01 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's wank.
9:02 Yasi Salek? Which I like.
9:03 Speaker 05 I was last night, it was wank.
9:04 Yasi Salek? It was wank.
9:05 Speaker 05 It's just bad, terrible. Yeah, that is good. I like that one.
9:07 Yasi Salek? That one's really good. So far, maybe in running for a contender of one of my favorite.
9:11 Speaker 05 And even, yeah, and if someone's not good at something like he's wank.
9:14 Yasi Salek? He's wank.
9:14 Speaker 05 At that thing.
9:15 Yasi Salek? Oh, like he's wank at football.
9:17 Speaker 05 Yeah, exactly.
9:18 Yasi Salek? Yeah, he's wank at the drums.
9:19 Speaker 05 Yeah, exactly, which I've never heard.
9:21 Yasi Salek? A lot of people have said that about you.
9:23 Speaker 05 He's wank.
9:23 Yasi Salek? There's a whole.
9:24 Speaker 05 He's wank, don't bother. Um, oh, this is a good one.
9:27 Yasi Salek? Okay.
9:27 Speaker 05 What is a Johnny?
9:30 Yasi Salek? A Johnny?
9:31 Speaker 05 Yeah.
9:32 Yasi Salek? Just not a Johnny, no maids.
9:34 Speaker 05 No, and it's a shorter version of something, but saying the whole thing would give it away too much. But we would definitely say a Johnny.
9:39 Yasi Salek? It's a man who beats his wife and was priorly a very famous actor.
9:45 Speaker 05 Allegedly.
9:46 Yasi Salek? Allegedly, allegedly.
9:48 Speaker 05 No, it's not. It's not a type of person.
9:50 Yasi Salek? Oh.
9:51 Speaker 05 It's not. It's weird that it's a name, but it's not a type of person.
9:55 Yasi Salek? Oh, an a toilet.
9:57 Speaker 05 No.
9:58 Yasi Salek? A urinal.
9:58 Speaker 05 John, that would be a John for Americans.
10:00 Yasi Salek? Right. Okay. So you guys don't say that. I'm not going to get this one.
10:03 Speaker 05 It's a condom.
10:04 Yasi Salek? A Johnny?
10:05 Speaker 05 Yeah, I don't know why, but it would be rubber Johnny.
10:10 Speaker 05 Even saying it, I sound like a nine year old again. Yeah, a rubber Johnny. So they'd be like, have you got a Johnny? They'd be like, you know what I mean? But like.
10:16 Yasi Salek? They.
10:18 Speaker 05 Whoever is interested in having protective states would say, have you got a Johnny? Yeah.
10:22 Yasi Salek? And the blokes, not the dodgy geezers, but the diving geezers. Use protection, you guys.
10:27 Speaker 05 Yeah, a Johnny. I need a Johnny.
10:29 Yasi Salek? Especially with a chav. You don't know where they've been.
10:31 Speaker 05 That's true.
10:32 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
10:32 Speaker 05 They're not using Johnny's.
10:33 Yasi Salek? Okay, a jo- a rubber Johnny.
10:35 Speaker 05 Johnny. Johnny is a condom.
10:36 Yasi Salek? That's not on my top five, I'm going to tell you.
10:39 Speaker 05 And now, um, the I had a couple for this, but I'm just going to do this one because I don't want to give it away too much. Bladdered.
10:46 Yasi Salek? Oh, okay, babe. Now it's my fucking time to shine. Because one thing, if I know one thing about the British language, it's that much like Eskimos who have like a thousand words for snow, because it's so important in their culture.
11:00 Speaker 05 Yeah.
11:01 Yasi Salek? You guys have a thousand words for being wasted.
11:03 Speaker 05 That's exactly why, yeah.
11:04 Yasi Salek? Yeah, because it's such a, it's such an important thing in your culture.
11:08 Speaker 05 We have to say it so much, the new ways of saying it. Which is why, because originally I did write pissed as well.
11:13 Yasi Salek? But there's so many more, right?
11:14 Speaker 05 You say pissed for being angry.
11:16 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
11:16 Speaker 05 We say pissed, pissed up, bladdered. What else is a particular English one that you've heard? Forgetting drunk. I'm trying to think now, like what I.
11:24 Yasi Salek? Bladdered was the one I remember.
11:25 Speaker 05 Bladdered's the one that I just said, oh, rat arsed.
11:28 Yasi Salek? Rat arsed?
11:29 Speaker 05 Yeah, but we'd have to say arsed as well.
11:31 Yasi Salek? Oh.
11:31 Speaker 05 Like it was rat arsed. Which must just be like, that's like a terrible thing. It must be as simple as that, like it's a terrible place to be, I suppose.
11:39 Yasi Salek? Let me ask you a linguistic question. What if you were on drugs? It's not bladdered.
11:46 Speaker 05 Yeah, no, it's not, is it?
11:47 Yasi Salek? Something totally different. Out of his head.
11:49 Speaker 05 Yeah, off his head.
11:51 Yasi Salek? Off his head.
11:51 Speaker 05 Off his nut.
11:52 Yasi Salek? Off his nut, so not out of his head, off his head.
11:54 Speaker 05 Yeah, off his head.
11:55 Yasi Salek? Off his nut.
11:56 Speaker 05 Because off his head can just mean he's mad, he's mad as well. It's like, what's wrong with you, he's off his head.
12:00 Yasi Salek? Mad, being crazy.
12:01 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah.
12:02 Yasi Salek? Right.
12:02 Speaker 05 So then to purposefully get yourself crazy would be probably through drugs.
12:07 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
12:07 Speaker 05 So then you're off. Off your nut is a good one, that's a bit more London.
12:10 Yasi Salek? Off your nut?
12:11 Speaker 05 Yeah. And I'm gonna get, like, I'm gonna get off my nut tonight.
12:14 Yasi Salek? And then what is your nut?
12:15 Speaker 05 It's your head.
12:16 Yasi Salek? Oh, okay.
12:16 Speaker 05 I think it's also your head, they just like sounds.
12:19 Yasi Salek? Different slang that we have here.
12:20 Speaker 05 Noggin, that'd be a head too.
12:22 Yasi Salek? Noggin.
12:22 Speaker 05 Do you say that here?
12:23 Yasi Salek? Yeah, we say noggin. But so like, you guys, what we called nuts, you call them bollocks.
12:29 Speaker 05 Bollocks, yeah. So then that could.
12:31 Yasi Salek? Bollocks means a lot of things.
12:32 Speaker 05 Yeah, how else would you use bollocks, for example? If it weren't talking about testicles.
12:36 Yasi Salek? Okay, like that's shit.
12:39 Yasi Salek? That's bollocks? Would you say that?
12:41 Speaker 05 Yeah, well, that this is the thing.
12:44 Speaker 05 The main way I use it would be uh bullshit.
12:47 Yasi Salek? Okay, bullshit.
12:50 Yasi Salek? Load of bollocks. Never mind the bullshit, here's the sex. Never mind the testicles, here's the suspect.
12:57 Speaker 05 Like if you didn't believe something that someone's saying, you'd be like, that's bollocks.
12:59 Yasi Salek? Right, bullshit.
13:00 Speaker 05 Or if like.
13:01 Yasi Salek? Falsehood.
13:02 Speaker 05 He was seven feet tall and you'd be like, was he bollocks?
13:06 Yasi Salek? Was he bollocks?
13:07 Speaker 05 And you say, was he fuck? This is one I didn't realize until I first came to like LA, first started hanging out here. And someone, it was like, have you, have you been to this? Whatever the thing was, was like strange. He was like, have you been to Disneyland? I was like, have I fuck?
13:20 Yasi Salek? Have I fuck?
13:21 Speaker 05 Have I fuck means like, it's probably like saying like fuck I have.
13:24 Yasi Salek? Oh, interesting.
13:27 Speaker 05 And then I real- and then I was like, oh yeah, that is weird, isn't it, to say have I fuck?
13:30 Yasi Salek? No, but it's kind of cool.
13:31 Speaker 05 But it's the same thing. It's like, like, so have I bollocks would be the same.
13:33 Yasi Salek? How, do you find that you've dropped these things from your speeches, you've been surrounded by Americans?
13:38 Speaker 05 Yeah, sometimes. And I s- I I try and watch a lot of English TV.
13:41 Yasi Salek? Sure.
13:42 Speaker 05 To check back in.
13:42 Yasi Salek? You like the show where they're naked?
13:44 Speaker 05 Yeah, naked, naked attraction.
13:46 Yasi Salek? Naked attraction, you put me onto that.
13:47 Speaker 05 That's good for, for real, like, broad spectrum of people in England.
13:51 Yasi Salek? Really get the gist.
13:54 Speaker 05 And then I sometimes just like call friends at home to talk to them for a bit.
13:57 Yasi Salek? Or practice.
13:57 Speaker 05 Tune back in.
13:58 Yasi Salek? Practice.
13:58 Speaker 05 I should have done it on the way here.
13:59 Yasi Salek? You should have, you could have really gone back in the.
14:02 Speaker 05 Like, one of the only podcasts I ever went on, I called him on the way there to make sure I spoke how I'm speak, how I was supposed to speak. I was like, I want to talk like I really talk instead of like.
14:12 Yasi Salek? Right.
14:12 Speaker 05 Podcast broadcast voice.
14:13 Yasi Salek? You don't want to be dulled down.
14:16 Speaker 05 I mean, oh no, I want to be.
14:18 Yasi Salek? I want, like, but yes.
14:19 Speaker 05 Want to be dumbed down.
14:20 Yasi Salek? Dumbed down, back, back to your original form.
14:22 Speaker 05 Back to my base level.
14:23 Yasi Salek? Right.
14:24 Speaker 05 You probably already know what these are, but like, bangers. Cause that, I mean, that can be broad, obviously.
14:30 Yasi Salek? Sausage.
14:31 Speaker 05 Yeah, sausage.
14:32 Yasi Salek? Delicious.
14:32 Speaker 05 Bangers and mash would be.
14:34 Yasi Salek? Mashed potatoes.
14:34 Speaker 05 Which also leads me to some rhyming slang, because bangers and mash would be like cockney rhyming slang for something.
14:40 Yasi Salek? Cock and balls.
14:41 Speaker 05 No, no, if I said bang as a mash, then that would be.
14:44 Yasi Salek? Oh.
14:45 Speaker 05 The result of that would be um a word.
14:48 Yasi Salek? Cockney rhyming is where you're really gonna lose me.
14:51 Speaker 05 Okay, well, a brief, a brief thing about, and I'm only, I'm speaking for Cockneys here and I'm not a Cockney by any means. I know plenty of them.
14:58 Yasi Salek? They're gonna come cancel you.
14:59 Speaker 05 Yeah, I know enough of them to like be aware of the rhyming slang. And there was like, I remember as a kid, my friend, his mom had the, there's like a rhyming slang dictionary. It's like official rhyming slang. And like flying squad would mean god. And apples and pears is stairs. These are all the basic ones.
15:17 Yasi Salek? Apples and pears, like don't fall down the apples and pears, you're so bladdered.
15:21 Speaker 05 Exactly, yeah. But then it gets so, it gets so far that you then, once everyone knows it, you only have to say apples.
15:29 Yasi Salek? Right, that's like, okay, that's like, um.
15:31 Speaker 05 So when you were on syrup.
15:33 Yasi Salek? Syrup of figs.
15:34 Speaker 05 Yes, I guess, yeah. Can you see a syrup?
15:36 Yasi Salek? I sent a email to some Scottish friends, cause a lot of those transfers over.
15:40 Speaker 05 Yeah, people just know it, yeah.
15:42 Yasi Salek? And I, I did have my Gallagher wig on and someone wrote back and was like, that's quite a syrup.
15:48 Speaker 05 Yeah, that's when I, that's when I really like it, when you know it just from the one word.
15:51 Yasi Salek? And I was like, oh, what now? And then I had to go Google and it came up syrup of figs because figs rhymes with wigs.
15:58 Speaker 05 And here's another interesting one that I didn't know until probably six months ago. That why a raspberry is called a raspberry when you blow a raspberry?
16:06 Yasi Salek? I know.
16:06 Speaker 05 It's cause raspberry tart is fart. So that, even that comes from Cockney rhyming slang and everyone knows what a raspberry is, that's worldwide.
16:12 Yasi Salek? That, that's really spread, that's, that's.
16:13 Speaker 05 So I'm like, that's when we really did it.
16:16 Yasi Salek? Export of the Cockneys, I think, is the.
16:17 Speaker 05 I mean, yeah, that's like cold, that's changed culture.
16:20 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
16:21 Speaker 05 No, everyone knows what blowing a raspberry is. Not everyone knows it means raspberry tart.
16:24 Yasi Salek? Maybe not like Gen Z.
16:26 Speaker 05 Yeah, then I'm doing rations, I probably.
16:28 Yasi Salek? Raspberry is.
16:29 Speaker 05 You have to ask permission.
16:30 Yasi Salek? His consent is required, yeah.
16:32 Speaker 05 Um, I assume you already know what telly is.
16:35 Yasi Salek? Oh babe, I'm so intimately involved with telly at home.
16:38 Speaker 05 What would a, um, this is, this is really like geographically specific as well to the north. A butty, or as I would say, a buty, B U T T Y.
16:49 Yasi Salek? Buty, oh, a cigarette?
16:52 Speaker 05 No.
16:52 Yasi Salek? Oh, it should be though.
16:54 Speaker 05 Yeah, I suppose it should, yeah.
16:55 Yasi Salek? Is it a food item?
16:56 Speaker 05 Yeah.
16:57 Yasi Salek? Okay, oh my god, okay, we're getting closer.
17:01 Yasi Salek? Is it a biscuit?
17:02 Speaker 05 No.
17:03 Yasi Salek? Is it a meat product?
17:07 Speaker 05 It can involve meat.
17:08 Yasi Salek? Okay. Is it a, oh my god, now I have to think of other British food names that I don't even know.
17:16 Speaker 05 Yeah.
17:17 Yasi Salek? Cause you guys are always eating like.
17:18 Speaker 05 It's hard to give clues on this one.
17:19 Yasi Salek? Cheese on toast or like.
17:22 Speaker 05 Yeah, so our grilled cheese would just be either a toastie.
17:25 Yasi Salek? A toastie.
17:25 Speaker 05 Or cheese on toast. Just like an open-faced grilled cheese.
17:28 Yasi Salek? But it only is one bread.
17:29 Speaker 05 Yeah, but you could have two.
17:31 Yasi Salek? Two toasties.
17:32 Speaker 05 And then suck it open face.
17:33 Yasi Salek? Instead of just.
17:34 Speaker 05 And just don't put them together.
17:35 Yasi Salek? Is it a, like a puff pastry?
17:38 Speaker 05 Uh, no. It's more like a category of food, I suppose.
17:41 Yasi Salek? I don't know, Ben.
17:42 Speaker 05 Sandwich.
17:43 Yasi Salek? Bate?
17:43 Speaker 05 A bate.
17:44 Yasi Salek? Do you know where it comes from?
17:45 Speaker 05 Bacon buddy. Um, no, because not everyone calls it that. It's really just like.
17:50 Yasi Salek? At your house, actually.
17:52 Yasi Salek? Just on your street.
17:52 Speaker 05 It'll be like, I think, maybe, maybe it is all over England, that one. Cause England, they have different names for what the type of bread is.
18:00 Yasi Salek? Okay.
18:01 Speaker 05 Like, like we'd call it a bread cake.
18:03 Yasi Salek? A bread cake?
18:04 Speaker 05 Like a certain, it'd be like a burger bun, kinda, would be a bread cake.
18:07 Yasi Salek? A bread cake?
18:08 Speaker 05 Some people call it a roll, some people call it a bomb cake.
18:12 Yasi Salek? Bread cake is?
18:13 Speaker 05 Bread cake is just like, they saw two things, like, oh, it kinda looks like cake, but it's made of bread. Let's call it a bread cake.
18:17 Yasi Salek? Literally, it's so great. That's a bread. Cake is also bread.
18:20 Speaker 05 What you see. Yeah, but I mean, they were expecting something sweet and they're gonna be, you know, let down when they dive into it. Do you know what, um, mucky means?
18:29 Yasi Salek? Mucky?
18:30 Speaker 05 Mucky. M U C K Y, I suppose is how you spell it.
18:33 Yasi Salek? Dirty? Oh, great.
18:35 Speaker 05 Big, but the, what, what else would you say? Uh, cause I had manky and mucky.
18:39 Yasi Salek? What's manky?
18:40 Speaker 05 Manky's same, but it's kinda like, that for me, uh, paints more of a picture than mucky though. Mucky would be like, you got dirt on your jeans.
18:47 Yasi Salek? So we're talking like, if a dodgy geezer hasn't showered in a long time, he's manky.
18:53 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, but my, you think like things could be manky as well. I reckon you'd describe a person as mucky more than mine.
18:59 Yasi Salek? Okay.
19:00 Speaker 05 Manky's good. I don't know, they're both kind of good. But mucky can mean like in that way, it could be much like she's dirty as in like that way too. You know, promiscuous.
19:07 Yasi Salek? Oh, promiscuous.
19:09 Speaker 05 Do you know what chuffed means?
19:11 Yasi Salek? Kind of. It's like I'm deeply pleased.
19:15 Speaker 05 Yes, however.
19:16 Yasi Salek? However.
19:17 Speaker 05 This one is confusing because you would say chuffed like you'd be like if you were pleased with yourself or pleased with something happened, you could be like, I'm chuffed to bits. I mean, it's like I'm really, I'm particularly chuffed.
19:29 Yasi Salek? Okay.
19:29 Speaker 05 Like that's like, I'm over the moon.
19:31 Yasi Salek? You wouldn't say I'm really chuffed.
19:32 Speaker 05 I think maybe people would. Yeah, I'm very, very chuffed about this. Chuffed to bits just seems like the most common one for, yeah, like I'm over the moon.
19:40 Yasi Salek? No.
19:40 Speaker 05 But if you were to say, like my mom might replace like fuck off with chuff off. Cause she like didn't want to swear. Now, now she does. Yeah. But like when we were kids, she would have said chuff off. Or she just said chuffing out instead of fucking out. So like, it could be used for that too.
19:58 Yasi Salek? But is chuffed, be honest.
20:00 Speaker 05 But chuffed is like, I'm chuffed.
20:02 Yasi Salek? Do like young people say, like, do you even say that? Or is that kind of more of like an older generation?
20:06 Speaker 05 People um in Sheffield, people in Yorkshire would probably say that. Um they'd be like, I'm dead chuffed with this.
20:12 Yasi Salek? They're a little behind the times.
20:13 Speaker 05 Like if, yeah, they'd just be like.
20:16 Yasi Salek? I'm dead chuffed.
20:16 Speaker 05 Like if they made something good, like they made you a nice cake, like I'm dead chuffed with this, you're gonna love it.
20:21 Yasi Salek? Like the second Arctic Monkeys album.
20:23 Speaker 05 Dead chuffed with that.
20:24 Yasi Salek? Dead chuffed.
20:24 Speaker 05 Yeah. Uh, this is probably one you don't know. Bagsy.
20:28 Yasi Salek? He's an, he's an artist. No one knows his identity.
20:32 Speaker 05 What I'm really trying to find out is, do you know who Bagsy is?
20:36 Speaker 05 No, B A G S Y, Bagsy. It's not a thing. It's, it's, I don't know.
20:41 Yasi Salek? Is it a way of being in the world?
20:43 Speaker 05 It's, I don't know. I, I, until I reveal it, yeah.
20:47 Yasi Salek? You would use it to describe a person or no?
20:50 Speaker 05 No.
20:51 Yasi Salek? I mean, this one feels like I'm not gonna get it.
20:54 Speaker 05 No, I don't think you will either. Um, it's the same as saying like dibs, like, like you've got dibs on something.
21:00 Yasi Salek? Okay, I would, first of all, that makes no sense because Bagsy is clearly an adjective. Okay?
21:05 Speaker 05 I know, but you'd be saying, you'd say like, or if you're playing a game like. Dibs was the closest thing I could think of, but if you're gonna play like, if you're a kid and you're gonna play a game of like tag.
21:16 Yasi Salek? Okay.
21:16 Speaker 05 And you don't wanna be the first person to be it, you say Bagsie not it.
21:19 Yasi Salek? Oh, okay.
21:20 Speaker 05 Like claim, it's like a claim of something.
21:21 Yasi Salek? Why does not, why does not it just not cover it?
21:25 Speaker 05 Not it, that's American, not it, it sounds American to me.
21:27 Yasi Salek? You would only say Bagsie, you wouldn't say not it, but you would say Bagsie not it.
21:31 Speaker 05 Yeah, not it, I'd say Bagsie not it. You have to just, well, cause the Bagsie is the thing that gets it. You have to have like the, you have to be the first person to say it.
21:37 Yasi Salek? Bagsie not it.
21:38 Speaker 05 Yeah, Bagsie, or you'd be like Bagsie mine, and like if I wanted to have that kinda ties, I was like, like I want that one to mine.
21:45 Yasi Salek? If you wanna, if you wanna Bagsie, you can.
21:47 Speaker 05 Don't wanna claim anything else in this building that's not mine.
21:49 Yasi Salek? You can.
21:50 Speaker 05 It's like Bagsie mine.
21:50 Yasi Salek? Bagsie it.
21:51 Speaker 05 Bagsie not it is just the.
21:52 Yasi Salek? Oh, you have to say Bagsie mine? So this word does nothing on its own. You would never say Bagsie.
21:57 Speaker 05 No, no, no, no, it's like, it's like, it's like Simon Says, I suppose. Like you have to say the Simon Says before you get the thing.
22:02 Yasi Salek? It's a real useless one.
22:02 Speaker 05 But it is a claim, it's like a way of claiming something.
22:05 Yasi Salek? Put it at the bottom of my list.
22:06 Speaker 05 Bagsie not it. Just, I don't know, as a kid I used it a lot.
22:09 Yasi Salek? Okay, you don't use it so much anymore, huh?
22:11 Speaker 05 No, I don't do Bagsie things anymore.
22:13 Yasi Salek? You're not really claiming things around the house.
22:15 Speaker 05 I'm just manifesting.
22:16 Yasi Salek? Yeah, you're just doing your affirmations in front of the mirror.
22:19 Speaker 05 Do you know, you obviously know what a quid is.
22:21 Yasi Salek? That's a money.
22:22 Speaker 05 That's a money, but it would be particularly.
22:25 Yasi Salek? That's a British pound, one.
22:26 Speaker 05 One British pound, yeah.
22:27 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
22:28 Speaker 05 Because then you would have five quid, but then you'd say fiver.
22:31 Yasi Salek? A fiver or tenner.
22:32 Speaker 05 Tenner. But you wouldn't say twenty.
22:34 Yasi Salek? No.
22:34 Speaker 05 Twenty, yeah.
22:35 Yasi Salek? No, that's weird.
22:36 Speaker 05 Twenty quid.
22:36 Yasi Salek? Okay, but at what point is it not quid? A hundred?
22:39 Speaker 05 A hundred quid, no, you'd be.
22:41 Yasi Salek? A thousand quid?
22:42 Speaker 05 A thousand quid, yeah, which does sound weird. Yeah, you would, you would, you'd have to, yeah. But then.
22:46 Yasi Salek? I guess, it's like bucks.
22:47 Speaker 05 When you, yeah, yeah, it's like bucks. But it's, cause it's not plural, it sounds weird.
22:51 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
22:52 Speaker 05 Which I understand.
22:52 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
22:53 Speaker 05 But when you get to a thousand, you can also then transition into rhyming slang and say a bag of sand, which is grand.
23:01 Yasi Salek? And people.
23:02 Speaker 05 You owe me a bag of sand.
23:03 Yasi Salek? But then they would just say a sand, you owe me a sand?
23:05 Speaker 05 No, cause you, you usually do the first bit like a bag, but that could be, that'd be different as well.
23:10 Yasi Salek? Thing I don't totally get about Cockney rhyming slang is that slang usually seems to be a shortcut.
23:18 Speaker 05 And I agree.
23:18 Yasi Salek? Whereas Cockney rhyming slang is like, what if we make one word, three words?
23:22 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, and it's also not related to the word in any way. And, cause like boat race is face and.
23:28 Yasi Salek? Boat race?
23:29 Speaker 05 There's modern ones as well, like nowadays, like. Like they upgraded them throughout the years, like people did, not like officially.
23:35 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
23:36 Speaker 05 Like Courtney Cox became socks, Brad Pitt became shit.
23:40 Yasi Salek? I'm sorry, it, they do it for people as well.
23:42 Speaker 05 Oh, yeah, people's names, yeah, cause like famous people's names can be used for rhymes.
23:46 Yasi Salek? Too much random. I mean, Brad Pitt, I kind of understand, but I did not realize Courtney Cox had such an international celebrity.
23:52 Speaker 05 Well, they probably could think of anyone else without, like, that rhymes with socks.
23:55 Yasi Salek? Right.
23:56 Speaker 05 But then Brian Cox.
23:58 Yasi Salek? Yeah, Brian Cox, I mean, he's, he's a country man.
24:00 Speaker 05 Yeah, he should have been, he should have been involved in that. But they would be, there's a famous cricket player in England called David Gower, and that was shower, that was always shower. So like this was.
24:10 Yasi Salek? Cricket player, you say.
24:11 Speaker 05 Yeah, famous in England.
24:12 Yasi Salek? Sure.
24:14 Speaker 05 So who was cricket legend, but the, so, and then brown bread is dead, like, that's always been that.
24:20 Yasi Salek? So when I go to the Cheesecake Factory next.
24:22 Speaker 05 Yes.
24:22 Yasi Salek? I can be like, I'd like a whole basket of dead, please. And the guy's gonna be like.
24:26 Speaker 05 You can't reverse, he don't work backwards. No, you have to say he's brown bread, like he's dead.
24:31 Yasi Salek? Oh, okay, it's the other way around. You can't, they're not entertained.
24:36 Speaker 05 No, no, no, you can't go backwards. But so like we used to.
24:39 Yasi Salek? Disrespectful to say that someone's brown bread.
24:40 Speaker 05 Like, I know it sounds too cheerful, I suppose.
24:43 Yasi Salek? Yeah, it's a little light.
24:44 Speaker 05 But they'd be like, he's brown bread in the David Gower, like he's dead in the shower.
24:46 Yasi Salek? Is Snatch, do they speak in coffee?
24:49 Speaker 05 They do a bit of that in there, probably.
24:50 Yasi Salek? I had to watch it with subtitles.
24:53 Speaker 05 Well, Snatch is even harder, cause then Brad Pitt, speaking of, is doing like a wild Irish accent too, and that's like.
24:58 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
24:59 Speaker 05 Definitely hard to understand. But all of them, yeah, every guy, Richard Field's probably got Courtney, your rhyming slang in it. It's based around that.
25:05 Yasi Salek? Okay.
25:06 Speaker 05 No, this is, you definitely won't get this one, but I'm just happy to talk about it. Um, well, cause you know how like people will describe, like for girls will say birds.
25:16 Yasi Salek? Right.
25:16 Speaker 05 Sometimes. So this is one I'm just gonna, again, I'm just gonna talk about it. So people will say tidy.
25:22 Yasi Salek? Tidy.
25:23 Speaker 05 But like tidy as in not a mess, but they'll be like, in Barnsley, which is where I went to like school, I lived in High Green, which is like between Sheffield and Barnsley.
25:32 Yasi Salek? Okay.
25:32 Speaker 05 Barnsley's got an even weirder accent than Sheffield and like.
25:35 Yasi Salek? How does the accent change so much?
25:37 Speaker 05 This is like within two miles or something.
25:39 Yasi Salek? It's a five minute drive.
25:40 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they have different words, they have different words with them.
25:42 Yasi Salek? Forty minute walk.
25:43 Speaker 05 But they, yeah, you can walk to a different accent. But they'd be like. Like if they went out that weekend, I'd be like, what is it like? They'd be like, oh, great, loads of tidy birds. So they'd say tidy birds for like, good looking girls.
25:56 Yasi Salek? So a woman, a bird could be mucky and tidy.
26:00 Speaker 05 Yeah, you could say mucky bird. I wouldn't say that, obviously.
26:02 Yasi Salek? No, you would never. You're a feminist, you're an ally. But.
26:06 Speaker 05 But I wouldn't know what somebody meant if they said it to me.
26:08 Yasi Salek? But I would understand who they were talking about.
26:11 Speaker 05 Mucky would be a bit more like, you're speaking specifically about sexual things.
26:15 Yasi Salek? Got it.
26:16 Speaker 05 Tidy would be just like, she's good looking.
26:18 Yasi Salek? Like fit.
26:18 Speaker 05 Or as we'd say, fit.
26:19 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
26:20 Speaker 05 Fit birds, tidy birds.
26:21 Yasi Salek? I learned fit from the streets.
26:23 Speaker 05 Fit, but you know.
26:24 Yasi Salek? That was the streets, right?
26:25 Speaker 05 Fit, but you know it.
26:26 Yasi Salek? But you know it. Great song.
26:27 Speaker 05 So there's, and he says geezer a lot.
26:29 Yasi Salek? He does, yeah. I learned several words from that man.
26:32 Speaker 05 Well, that's all I had on my list, but I'm happy to discuss other ones.
26:34 Yasi Salek? My number one favorite.
26:36 Speaker 05 Which is what?
26:36 Yasi Salek? Johnny no mates.
26:37 Speaker 05 Oh, yeah, yeah. No, we could talk about it. Oh, you know, in fact, the difference between, so when you told me Johnny no mates, we said Billy no mates.
26:44 Yasi Salek? Billy no mates. Well, that's what Liam Gallagher said when I first learned the word.
26:48 Speaker 05 Yeah.
26:48 Yasi Salek? Billy no mates.
26:49 Speaker 05 Yeah, and I don't know if that's.
26:50 Yasi Salek? So northern people say Billy no mates.
26:52 Speaker 05 Yeah, maybe it's like that.
26:52 Yasi Salek? And southern people say Johnny no mates.
26:54 Speaker 05 And a Billy no mates is, I don't know why people had like, yeah, Billy to the, Billy's on the beginning of a few things, I remember like, I'm trying to think of another example. But Billy no mates was just, my dad uses Billy no mates.
27:05 Yasi Salek? When he was making fun of you for being a loser. No.
27:08 Speaker 05 No, cause like, you rarely get that opportunity with me.
27:12 Speaker 05 So he goes running, my dad's like a runner.
27:15 Yasi Salek? Okay.
27:15 Speaker 05 And usually he's like, got someone to run with or a couple of people to run with. If he done, and he's also somebody who like, puts it on Instagram when he's been for a run, like he puts the map, you know, like you do the map.
27:24 Yasi Salek? As you should, as you fucking should.
27:26 Speaker 05 You know, quick five K.
27:27 Yasi Salek? Does he have a lot of followers? He's like an influencer?
27:28 Speaker 05 No, yeah, I mean, they're all like to monkeys fans.
27:31 Yasi Salek? Sure. They're, they're like smashing that, like, they're like, look at it. My elder's dad went on a five mile run today.
27:37 Speaker 05 Fans run, then he's doing his thing.
27:39 Yasi Salek? Sorry, three kilometers.
27:40 Speaker 05 Yeah, he's a, but he'll write on his thing, if it was like a good run, a hard run or whatever, user describes it. And if he goes on his own, cause nobody was out that day, be like, Billy no mates.
27:50 Yasi Salek? On Instagram, in the caption.
27:51 Speaker 05 On top of it, yeah, or on, over the map sometimes, like, you know. Billy Nolte's run this tonight. It was a Billy Nolte's run tonight.
27:57 Yasi Salek? Your dad's cool.
27:58 Speaker 05 And he likes, he's got, I should probably ask him about this.
28:01 Yasi Salek? Cool geezer. Yeah, he probably has great words.
28:03 Speaker 05 He's got some things that he says that I, like, well, let's have a normal conversation and if it's just me, it's fine. If I'm having this conversation and Amanda's listening, she's like, what does that mean? Like certain things like that she still hasn't worked out.
28:15 Yasi Salek? Also, our kid.
28:16 Speaker 05 Our kid is good.
28:17 Yasi Salek? But you said you guys don't really say our kid anymore. You just say like.
28:21 Speaker 05 Well, I do know people that do, but in my particular family, we didn't. But my mom would say our Matt and my brother would say our Matt if she's talking to somebody else about me.
28:31 Yasi Salek? The thing that's really crazy about this to me personally.
28:34 Speaker 05 It's very possessive. No.
28:36 Yasi Salek? No, it's lovely, but that it's like, it's so presumes people know who your brother is and like.
28:43 Speaker 05 Right.
28:43 Yasi Salek? When like, like to say our kid.
28:46 Speaker 05 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:47 Yasi Salek? You know, and just like, like I, Sean Ryder's books.
28:50 Speaker 05 Yep.
28:51 Yasi Salek? They just say our kid over. He never says his brother's name one time.
28:54 Speaker 05 And if you've got more than one, I suppose that gets confusing.
28:56 Yasi Salek? What if you have more than one brother? You can't say our kid, can you?
28:59 Speaker 05 One of my friends.
29:00 Yasi Salek? Noel Gallagher has more than one brother. What about the poor older brother? He's like, what about me? I'm not our kid.
29:05 Speaker 05 Who was it? He used to say, one of my friends used to say, he had a younger brother and an older brother. So he'd say our big one.
29:10 Yasi Salek? Our big one.
29:12 Speaker 05 Big one was the big brother, our big one and our little one. So yeah, I suppose they do that as well. Our little and our big one. Cause our little one could be your kid too, though, if you've got like a new kid.
29:20 Yasi Salek? Yeah, it's a lot of room for confusion.
29:22 Speaker 05 Yeah, you just have to know.
29:23 Yasi Salek? I'm just kidding.
29:25 Speaker 05 Just have to know who you're referring to.
29:27 Yasi Salek? Yeah, well, I guess it's a little bit of a village vibe, which is nice.
29:29 Speaker 05 That's true. You don't take long to know everything about everything, everyone there.
29:33 Yasi Salek? And the two.
29:34 Speaker 05 In the small towns.
29:35 Yasi Salek? You said miles. You've really lost your edge.
29:36 Speaker 05 No, no, we do say miles. This is the thing that we.
29:39 Yasi Salek? What are you talking about?
29:39 Speaker 05 We have, we have miles and miles per hour.
29:41 Yasi Salek? I thought you were in the metric system.
29:43 Speaker 05 Yeah, but we just, we had to adapt and we, we can do all. I'll do feet, yards, meters. Try me.
29:51 Speaker 05 But we'll do, but like, but then as soon as you're in like France or something, they're doing kilometers as the speed limit.
29:56 Yasi Salek? Right. And then you're really confused.
29:57 Speaker 05 They still say like, I'm running a five K, but I.
29:59 Yasi Salek? We say that here too, though.
30:00 Speaker 05 But I can, and I know what that would be in miles when I, in my mind.
30:04 Yasi Salek? Okay.
30:04 Speaker 05 When people say it.
30:05 Yasi Salek? Are you a naturalized US citizen?
30:07 Speaker 05 I've got a green card. That's what that means, isn't it?
30:09 Yasi Salek? No, I don't.
30:10 Speaker 05 No, I ain't done the whole thing. I've got a green card. So I'm a permanent resident.
30:13 Yasi Salek? You're one foot in, one foot out.
30:14 Speaker 05 Yeah, I can't vote, but I can suffer the consequences.
30:18 Yasi Salek? Sure. Perfect. Honestly, a perfect, a perfect way.
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31:26 Speaker 05 So, there's a word that people use in England. And it is to describe people, usually. The word would be mardy, but in our song, we say mardy bum. Like, you've been a mardy bum.
31:45 Yasi Salek? Shitty ass.
31:48 Speaker 05 Yeah, but if...
31:49 Yasi Salek? But like, kind of, right?
31:50 Speaker 05 If you didn't have the bum on it, though. If it was just, you've been mardy.
31:54 Yasi Salek? It's more that you're being shitty, but like, you're being like, fighty, right? Like, you're being antagonistic?
32:01 Speaker 05 Well, the only way I've managed to sort of translate it is by having a kid and seeing what it's described as when she acts a certain way by Americans.
32:11 Yasi Salek? Like, you're being bratty?
32:13 Speaker 05 You're pouting a bit, though, as well. You're like, sulking, pouting, grumpy. Like, it only matters if someone's been mardy if you care about them, I think. Or if it's a... It's not like, they're not doing anything to you, they're just being miserable.
32:24 Yasi Salek? But can't you be in a mard?
32:25 Speaker 05 Yeah, people say that, yeah. You're in a mard.
32:27 Yasi Salek? That's like a fight, right?
32:28 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a mardy bum would just be like, the way that, like, parents say about kids.
32:33 Yasi Salek? Yeah, this is what you're saying.
32:34 Speaker 05 Nothing to do with the cleanliness of the rear end. Just you being Marty. It's like you've been like miserable, grumpy, like.
32:41 Yasi Salek? Right.
32:42 Speaker 05 Like and it and usually it's like it feels like for no reason. Yeah, you've been.
32:45 Yasi Salek? But Marty.
32:46 Speaker 05 Like cheer up. And then another very Sheffield thing that that reminded me of, it's nothing to do with that in terms of the meaning, so don't throw off, is a word we say in Sheffield is nesh.
32:56 Yasi Salek? Nesh.
32:56 Speaker 05 Yeah, which you won't know.
32:58 Yasi Salek? It's not in a pop song somewhere. It might be.
33:01 Speaker 05 No, but you would know it if I said it so well.
33:03 Yasi Salek? Sure, because he's from, as you guys know.
33:05 Speaker 05 But it's very.
33:06 Yasi Salek? Jarvis Cocker.
33:06 Speaker 05 Sheffield, very local. And that means you get cold easily, like.
33:11 Yasi Salek? I'm nesh.
33:12 Speaker 05 Yeah, you're nesh. You're probably nesh.
33:14 Yasi Salek? I'm a nesh geezer.
33:15 Speaker 05 People I know are nesh.
33:16 Yasi Salek? I actually do. I identify as a lad, so.
33:19 Speaker 05 Oh, you're a nesh lad. So it's like.
33:20 Yasi Salek? I'm kind of laddie.
33:21 Speaker 05 Like if you complain, yeah. If you, um, if you like complain that it's cold and it's not really that cold, it's like.
33:28 Yasi Salek? Oh, my god, this.
33:29 Speaker 05 It's not the complaining part. You actually genuinely are cold.
33:32 Yasi Salek? I've never felt more seen. I can't believe we don't have this word here. This is literally me.
33:36 Speaker 05 It's like, and you could be like, don't be nesh.
33:38 Yasi Salek? I have a low body.
33:39 Speaker 05 It's not that bad.
33:39 Yasi Salek? How can you not be nesh, babe? That's who I am.
33:41 Speaker 05 I know, I know.
33:42 Yasi Salek? You can't tell, you can't tell a leopard to change its spots.
33:46 Speaker 05 No. I had a friend at school who won't, this has nothing to do with colloquialisms, but, but it was at Barnsley College where I went briefly. And he, uh, told his parents that he, he like just stopped going, but didn't tell his parents. And used to just come like we were going on the bus every day to go to Barnsley and just wait for the pub to open and stay there all day and then come back on the bus.
34:07 Yasi Salek? He didn't need like a signed note?
34:09 Speaker 05 No, because at that point, because we leave school when we're sixteen.
34:11 Yasi Salek? Oh, right, not anymore.
34:12 Speaker 05 That's your first mistake.
34:12 Yasi Salek? They're not allowed anymore, but yeah.
34:14 Speaker 05 I don't know.
34:14 Yasi Salek? I, against my will, I've learned about the British school system.
34:17 Speaker 05 Education, yeah, probably should have. But then I won't be here now. So, you know, I would, wouldn't have started a band probably because I've been like, and I've been going to school a night.
34:25 Yasi Salek? So you don't have any O levels?
34:27 Speaker 05 No, I did it. I did, I did A level, A levels is what I did.
34:30 Yasi Salek? Okay.
34:31 Speaker 05 I didn't do very well, but I did them.
34:33 Yasi Salek? Which ones did you do?
34:34 Speaker 05 Music, technology.
34:36 Speaker 05 We started engineering side because I didn't play an instrument yet, so they won't let me do music. Media studies.
34:41 Yasi Salek? Sure.
34:42 Speaker 05 Which was.
34:43 Yasi Salek? That served you well.
34:43 Speaker 05 The best grade I got was like analyzing Fast and Furious.
34:47 Yasi Salek? The film.
34:47 Speaker 05 A certain scene in Fast and Furious, yeah.
34:49 Yasi Salek? Amazing.
34:50 Speaker 05 Um, don't know why they gave us that. And then photography and I failed that, but I've learned a lot more since.
34:55 Yasi Salek? You seem like you've come a long way.
34:56 Speaker 05 Uh, yeah, they weren't interested in natural talent. They wanted like me to show up and like hand in work and stuff.
35:02 Yasi Salek? Do you ever go back and just be like?
35:03 Speaker 05 I went back when our first single came out to play, to see the music teacher.
35:07 Yasi Salek? To be like, suck it bitch. You guys didn't say that though, but whatever your.
35:10 Speaker 05 No, but then, but he definitely, but he said that it um wasn't mixed right. Even then, he was like, I heard it on the radio, the backing vocals were a bit loud.
35:17 Yasi Salek? I actually really respect that.
35:19 Speaker 05 Oh, you'd have a Larry Giza, like a Larry Giza would be something.
35:22 Yasi Salek? Like a homebody?
35:23 Speaker 05 No, Larry would be, usually it's around like fighting, like you're the, you're like instigate a fight. Like you got a bit Larry, like you'd be talking about someone in the pub or whatever. It's like, I got a bit Larry.
35:40 Yasi Salek? You must say that all the time.
35:41 Speaker 05 Yeah, I've been around a lot of flair.
35:44 Yasi Salek? Just saying, if you're, if you're at the pub at eleven AM on a Tuesday, as they, people do.
35:48 Speaker 05 Can be.
35:49 Yasi Salek? Okay, well, I want you to do one thing to wrap this up. I want you to give me a couple of scenarios.
35:55 Speaker 05 Yeah.
35:55 Yasi Salek? And then see if I can guess the proper way to describe a person or a thing that's happening. Do you know what I mean?
36:01 Speaker 05 So I'll give you in like, without using any of the words.
36:03 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
36:04 Speaker 05 And you say how you would say it. Okay.
36:07 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
36:07 Speaker 05 Um, okay, so I'm gonna say that we, we'd like, we went out for a drink.
36:11 Yasi Salek? Okay.
36:12 Speaker 05 To the pub last night.
36:14 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
36:14 Speaker 05 You know, a fight broke out.
36:16 Yasi Salek? Okay.
36:17 Speaker 05 Because a certain person was just being problematic.
36:20 Yasi Salek? Okay.
36:21 Speaker 05 Um, and he was, and he, and he was, you know, over served.
36:26 Yasi Salek? Okay.
36:26 Speaker 05 Because he was over served.
36:28 Yasi Salek? Right.
36:29 Speaker 05 And by the way, there were plenty of attractive girls there too.
36:31 Yasi Salek? Wow, you're you're using all the words here.
36:34 Speaker 05 I'm just going from memory.
36:34 Yasi Salek? Okay, by the way, there was plenty of attractive girls there too.
36:37 Speaker 05 You can split that into two if you need to, because I'm just like trying to remember everything.
36:41 Yasi Salek? So the the the bloke was being Larry because he was so bladdered and there were a lot of fit, tidy birds there.
36:49 Speaker 05 Yeah, that's what I was getting at, yeah. That's how you would say it.
36:53 Yasi Salek? Nice job, Yossi. Fucking killing it. Ace, right? Yeah.
36:57 Speaker 05 Ace, oh, ace, yeah, people say that as well, don't they?
36:59 Yasi Salek? Top.
37:00 Speaker 05 Top.
37:01 Yasi Salek? That's me.
37:01 Speaker 05 Um, top notch. You said top notch in America, though, didn't you?
37:04 Yasi Salek? Sure, it's really universal, I guess.
37:06 Speaker 05 Okay, that's another one where, so you were walking through the park, for example, and a group of kids wearing tracksuits approached you. And
37:21 Speaker 05 that's as far as that one goes, I suppose. They robbed you. And you were, oh, this is a word we haven't used, but you'll probably do it anyway. And you were devastated by this. So that'll be a bonus word at the end.
37:31 Yasi Salek? Okay, I'm walking in the park, a mob of, wait, a lot, that lot of lads.
37:40 Speaker 05 Yeah.
37:41 Yasi Salek? Or chavs.
37:42 Speaker 05 Yeah, I was going for chavs.
37:42 Yasi Salek? Came up on me. Are they nuts?
37:47 Speaker 05 Oh shit, okay, yes, so these chavs.
37:49 Yasi Salek? They blagged me.
37:49 Speaker 05 These chavs were under the influence of god knows what. I don't think they were bladdered.
37:54 Yasi Salek? They were, they were off their head.
37:56 Speaker 05 Yeah.
37:57 Yasi Salek? And they blagged my purse.
38:00 Speaker 05 Yeah.
38:01 Yasi Salek? We didn't even do that one, that was a bonus one for me. And then I was devastated.
38:05 Speaker 05 Yeah, I was looking for something else with devastated.
38:07 Yasi Salek? No, I'm just, I was just trying to remember what you said.
38:08 Speaker 05 Yeah.
38:09 Yasi Salek? I was right, sorry.
38:13 Yasi Salek? In it.
38:13 Speaker 05 I was going for, um, yeah, as long as it's in it on the head.
38:16 Yasi Salek? I was, Alex, I was looking for.
38:19 Speaker 05 What we're looking for was gutted.
38:21 Yasi Salek? Oh, it was gutted, it was proper gutted.
38:22 Speaker 05 Proper gutted.
38:23 Yasi Salek? Because they took all my quid that was in my purse. They blagged all my quid that was in my purse.
38:27 Speaker 05 That's when, that's what's funny too, you want to say all my quid, but you're right in thinking you should.
38:30 Yasi Salek? You wouldn't?
38:31 Speaker 05 No, all my quid.
38:32 Yasi Salek? They just, they took my, they took my.
38:34 Speaker 05 You'd have to be specific, they took like twenty quid.
38:36 Yasi Salek? My bag of sand.
38:37 Speaker 05 They took about.
38:38 Yasi Salek? I'm doing really well, you guys just see. I'm, I'm not tight because I'm doing really well.
38:42 Speaker 05 That was good.
38:43 Yasi Salek? And I lost a bag of sand.
38:44 Speaker 05 Grounded your bag.
38:45 Yasi Salek? Yeah, that's right. And that's why the chavs targeted me.
38:50 Yasi Salek? And I was, I was bothered.
38:52 Speaker 05 Proper gut, I'd buy that.
38:53 Yasi Salek? Actually, I wasn't bothered because I'm so.
38:56 Speaker 05 That, you know, that money's coming back. You know, that money's coming back.
38:58 Yasi Salek? Yeah, cuz I manifested in the mirror with my affirmations. I wonder if I start doing my affirmations with the slang involved. Yeah, it'll bring my British husband.
39:09 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, maybe you've got like.
39:11 Yasi Salek? That daft geezer.
39:12 Speaker 05 You gotta do more specific manifestations, yeah.
39:15 Yasi Salek? How do you say rich?
39:16 Speaker 05 I think just loaded.
39:17 Yasi Salek? Loaded.
39:18 Speaker 05 Yeah.
39:19 Yasi Salek? Okay.
39:19 Speaker 05 I did learn where posh comes from as well recently.
39:22 Yasi Salek? Where does it come from?
39:24 Speaker 05 It's to do with like people going on boats and it was about the view that you had if you were rich.
39:29 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
39:29 Speaker 05 So it'd be like portside out starboard home. So like when you're going out, you get to look at the one side. And then when you're coming back, you get to look at, like you get to look at the best view.
39:37 Yasi Salek? But how does portside out translate to posh?
39:40 Speaker 05 P O S A, like portside out, it's like a, whatever that word is acronym or.
39:43 Yasi Salek? Yeah, I was gonna say anagram, which is totally wrong. No, acronym is correct. Oh, I didn't know that.
39:49 Speaker 05 I know, I didn't for a long time.
39:50 Yasi Salek? Wow.
39:51 Speaker 05 Don't know if posh spice knows that either.
39:52 Yasi Salek? Posh who?
39:53 Speaker 05 Posh spice.
39:54 Yasi Salek? Oh, right. She's moved on.
39:55 Speaker 05 Yeah, she's, I mean, she became, you know, she probably can go on a boat and look at whichever view she wants.
40:00 Yasi Salek? I think so, yeah.
40:01 Speaker 05 It's nice.
40:02 Yasi Salek? Okay, well, I feel we've, I feel like we've done good work here.
40:06 Speaker 05 Yeah, I'm sure more are gonna come up on my way home and it'll be too late, but you know.
40:09 Yasi Salek? I think we covered a lot of ground. We'll do another Duolingo session just privately where you teach me new words.
40:16 Speaker 05 Yeah, you might just need to learn them anyway. That could be like a, yeah, off camera.
40:19 Yasi Salek? Yeah, how am I gonna, how am I gonna hang with my husband and have a bread cake burger?
40:24 Speaker 05 Bacon butter, or a chip butter, that's when you have like just fry, like fries and a sandwich.
40:30 Yasi Salek? Yeah, that feels a bit on the dole. Feels a bit on the dole.
40:33 Speaker 05 Yeah, you usually eat that if you're the dole.
40:38 Yasi Salek? Okay, well, Matt Helders, thank you for joining me.
40:41 Speaker 05 Thanks for having me.
40:42 Yasi Salek? Teach me this British slang. Come back next week for a new episode of Beansline.
40:49 Yasi Salek? If you liked what you heard today, subscribe for more episodes of Bandplain. Our guest today was Matt Helders of the band The Arctic Monkeys. This episode was produced by Liz Sanchez and edited by Adrian Bridges with help from Justin Sales. Executive producers for Bandplain are Gina Delvac and me, Yasi Salek. Our gorgeous and catchy theme song was composed and performed by Bethany Cosentino and Jennifer Clavon and graciously recorded by Carlos de la Garza in Los Angeles, California. Special thanks to our producer emeritus, producer Dylan, aka Dylan Tupper Rupert, and also Michael Hardman, Casey Simonsen, Robert Adler, Leah Edwards, David McDonough, Dana Myerson, Jessica Hopper, Chloe Walsh, and Casa Vega Mexican Restaurant.
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