Pod Insights Bandsplain 80s Soundtrack Hall of Fame with Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan About this episode Yasi is joined by Chris Ryan and Sean Fennessey to discuss what music best represents the 1980s and build the Bandsplain ‘80s Movie Soundtrack Hall of Fame. They set the rules (sorry, no animated features or scores), decide what truly defines a great soundtrack, and, after some heated debate and meandering side quests, settle on the top 10 Hall of Fame-worthy soundtracks! Host: Yasi Salek @yasisalekGuest: Chris Ryan @chrisryan77 and Sean Fennessey @seanfennesseyProducer: Rob Sundermann Editor: Chris SuttonAdditional Production Supervision: Justin SaylesTheme Song: Bethany Cosentino
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0:35 Speaker 01 What's with this band, anyway? I don't get it, can you please explain? Wait, like, Bandplain? Never heard this band in my life. Oh, you haven't? I'd love that. Really? Why? Yeah, I love this song. Oh, I don't know that one. Bandplain, Bandplain, Bandplain. I really hate this band! Whatever, I'm their biggest fan. Bandplain, Bandplain, Bandplain, Bandplain.
1:14 Yasi Salek? Hello and welcome to Bandplain. I am your host, Yasi Salek. This is usually a show where I invite an expert guest on to help me explain a cult band or iconic artist. Today's episode is a little different, guys. Today, we are creating the Bandplain 80s Soundtracks Hall of Fame. And I'm joined by two men. Two princes, if you will. No spin doctors. But also, yes, spin doctors. Sean Fantasy and Chris Ryan. Welcome to the program. Hi. Can you guys believe it? Thanks for having me. In the midst of CR Month. The waning days. Fresh off interviewing Steven Spielberg, these people have downgraded to come here to Bandplain.
1:54 Speaker 03 That's not true.
1:55 Yasi Salek? That's not true.
1:55 Speaker 03 What, um, will this be released during CR Month?
1:59 Yasi Salek? This will be released in two days. Wow, a quick turnaround for Bandplain. Yeah, not a usual thing for us. I know.
2:05 Speaker 03 How can I screw this up so that's not the case?
2:07 Yasi Salek? We wanted to capitalize on the momentum of CR Month.
2:10 Speaker 03 Makes sense.
2:11 Yasi Salek? You haven't vocally disavowed the Nazism of the Germs yet. Yeah, you need to do that.
2:15 Speaker 03 I'm happy to do so right now. Do not support any Nazi-adjacent content. Period.
2:20 Yasi Salek? But the direct content is okay.
2:21 Speaker 03 No, not a fan of that either, but I hope that goes without saying.
2:24 Yasi Salek? Well, you can never be too safe is what I've learned.
2:27 Speaker 03 That's a good point.
2:28 Yasi Salek? You guys, are you excited to do this particular thing?
2:31 Speaker 03 Yes, what are we doing?
2:33 Speaker 04 We're drafting, we're making a Hall of Fame for 1980 soundtrack.
2:36 Speaker 03 I understood the introduction, but why?
2:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, why?
2:40 Yasi Salek? We're doing this because I need content.
2:45 Yasi Salek? Because I can't do a full Link Van Lee in a week because I'm only one woman. And also, we've done a lot of drafts and I was like, what could we do that's not a draft? And then I looked to my great light, The Big Picture Podcast.
2:59 Speaker 03 Wow.
2:59 Yasi Salek? And I was like, oh, these are fun, these Hall of Fames. And I initially thought we would do the thing that you guys do on the Hall of Fame episode, which we went, we would go through every single soundtrack released in the 80s. And then Chris Ryan, Lazy, was like, no, I don't want to do that.
3:15 Speaker 04 I just thought it would just be a tighter, more entertaining show for our listeners if we argued about some things that we brought to the table.
3:23 Yasi Salek? I thought it was very funny, actually, that you framed it that way, that you framed it both as argument and fighting when you presented it. Because that's not how I thought about it, but I'm interested in our different approaches. I actually brought more than 10, because the Hall of Fame will be 10.
3:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:37 Yasi Salek? And I was hoping you could guide and help me.
3:41 Speaker 04 So this is sort of like, you're running the Kennedy Center now. And we're kind of helping you, you know, configure it.
3:48 Yasi Salek? Well, it is the bands playing 80 soundtrack Hall of Fame. However, I like, I need your, I need, we're in this together. I feel like we need to.
3:57 Speaker 03 Can we go back one step?
3:58 Yasi Salek? Sure.
3:59 Speaker 03 Why the 80s?
4:01 Yasi Salek? Well, I didn't, I wanted to start when soundtracks kind of started to like really pop off.
4:06 Speaker 03 Okay.
4:07 Yasi Salek? I know there are some good 70s soundtracks, obviously famous like Shaft and Saturday Night Fever and stuff. They're not really bands playingy. And we will be doing episodes about each of the 10.
4:22 Speaker 04 Really?
4:22 Yasi Salek? Yes. Was that a line? Did I not tell you that?
4:26 Speaker 04 I was doing that more for the sake of.
4:30 Speaker 03 So I feel like you were hiding the ball there. That's really the takeaway is that this is almost like in like the kickoff of a new theme for you. Of a new concept.
4:39 Yasi Salek? We've done soundtracks before.
4:41 Speaker 03 Right.
4:41 Yasi Salek? You came on.
4:41 Speaker 03 But using like, first of all, I'm like honored and moved that you would do such a weird thing of like crafting an introductory episode to an idea and then extending that idea over several weeks.
4:53 Yasi Salek? Who did I learn?
4:54 Speaker 03 Something I love to do, yes.
4:56 Yasi Salek? You know what, have you heard about Stockholm syndrome?
5:00 Yasi Salek? I think I'm on my 30th year.
5:01 Speaker 03 No one is holding you against your will.
5:03 Yasi Salek? And now I'm like, March Madness, babe. Are you ready for this? That's me, I'm here, I'm wearing a sports jersey.
5:10 Speaker 04 Have you watched any March Madness basketball?
5:11 Yasi Salek? No.
5:12 Speaker 04 This book, I didn't, I'm not aware of what's happening in that sector of the world.
5:16 Speaker 03 I think that.
5:16 Yasi Salek? Go them though.
5:18 Speaker 03 You have been unfairly characterizing much of your own ideas as things that you have been forced to do.
5:24 Speaker 04 I know, this is like always one of the funniest things is getting lassoed into one of these projects with you and then have you be like, oh, twist my arm if I must order things and rank them.
5:36 Yasi Salek? Did I say that? All I said was that I have adjusted. I have acclimated.
5:41 Speaker 03 Evolved.
5:42 Yasi Salek? I have evolved into my new home and circumstances happily, gracefully, gratefully, with great enthusiasm and joy, actually.
5:51 Speaker 04 There is a time when we would be on week six of recording Jimmy Eat World.
5:54 Yasi Salek? That's what I'm saying.
5:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:56 Yasi Salek? So everyone has grown and learned.
5:59 Speaker 04 Tom Hanks narrating episode 21.
6:02 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
6:03 Speaker 03 Ken Burns presents Fansplain presents Jimmy Eat World.
6:06 Yasi Salek? Exactly, so you know, I'm just, I'm happy, I'm happy to be here.
6:10 Speaker 03 You're thriving and I love the idea.
6:12 Yasi Salek? I think it's gonna be fun, no?
6:13 Speaker 03 Yes.
6:14 Yasi Salek? I wanted to set the table a little before we start. This is also a thing I learned from you, just to. Put the parameters in. I personally decided, since these are gonna be Bandplain episodes, scores are not eligible.
6:28 Speaker 04 Yep.
6:28 Yasi Salek? Because that is a boring episode, respectfully to people who make scores. Although, obviously, many fine scores in the eighties. Gorgeous things. Beetlejuice, Last Emperor.
6:38 Speaker 04 Okay.
6:38 Speaker 03 Um, Last Emperor, sure.
6:40 Yasi Salek? I wanted to give you a chance.
6:41 Speaker 03 John Williams films, you know?
6:43 Yasi Salek? There you go. Yeah, there's quite a few. Good stuff.
6:45 Speaker 03 What about The Mission? Speaking of Morricone.
6:47 Yasi Salek? Um, Homeboy, the Mickey Rourke film, has original score by Eric Clapton.
6:51 Speaker 03 Haven't seen that.
6:52 Speaker 04 Okay.
6:52 Yasi Salek? Um.
6:53 Speaker 03 Homeboy.
6:54 Yasi Salek? Yeah, I didn't know about. I learned about so many movies doing this research, which I was actually really excited about, and I want to talk about them, perhaps not as part of the Hall of Fame, but maybe as some honorable.
7:04 Speaker 04 You could do, you could do like a catching up with all the movies that we didn't talk about episode, if you were still looking for content in deep August, you know?
7:11 Yasi Salek? What did I say to you guys? You were, you were built in the lab to make podcasts because the way your brains... I think, do you think you've rewired your neural pathways at this point that like?
7:20 Speaker 04 Well, the funny thing is that my main, my main outlet for podcasting does not really employ any of these things.
7:28 Yasi Salek? Right, so you have to know.
7:28 Speaker 04 It's just a pure marketplace of ideas.
7:31 Speaker 03 Uh huh, very valuable marketplace.
7:33 Speaker 04 It's a, it's like a bazaar that people come to and they select what items they want.
7:38 Speaker 03 How would you describe the men that come to that bazaar?
7:41 Speaker 04 To the, to listen to The Watch?
7:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
7:42 Speaker 04 I think we have a thriving female.
7:44 Yasi Salek? Have you ever checked the actual numbers?
7:46 Speaker 04 No.
7:46 Yasi Salek? Okay, so you're just assuming on vibes?
7:48 Speaker 03 I have.
7:49 Yasi Salek? And?
7:50 Speaker 04 Of the watches?
7:50 Speaker 03 Yeah. I wouldn't share that here, obviously, yeah, but yeah.
7:53 Speaker 04 You're welcome to.
7:53 Yasi Salek? Who do you think has more male percentage ratio of male listeners, Bandplain or The Watch?
7:58 Speaker 03 Um, I think it's a neck and neck race.
7:59 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:01 Yasi Salek? And we love you. Keep coming back.
8:03 Speaker 04 I had a couple of procedural questions about, like, not even procedural, but like, kind of like philosophical questions about the Hall of Fame.
8:10 Yasi Salek? Okay, but can I tell you the end of the rules first? Okay, the other ones are, I did not, I'm not allowing documentaries.
8:17 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
8:17 Speaker 03 Okay.
8:18 Yasi Salek? Or musicals.
8:21 Yasi Salek? Like, original musicals, because that's cheating, I feel like.
8:24 Speaker 04 Okay.
8:24 Yasi Salek? Like, Little Shop of Horrors.
8:25 Speaker 04 Gotcha.
8:25 Yasi Salek? You know, Grease 2.
8:26 Speaker 03 Like a jukebox mus- there's, there's, you know, like Streets of Fire.
8:31 Speaker 04 What about a movie about a musician?
8:32 Yasi Salek? Like Spinal Tap or whatever.
8:33 Speaker 03 Spinal Tap.
8:34 Yasi Salek? That is eligible, I think.
8:36 Speaker 03 Those are kind of, movies that have music performances in them.
8:39 Yasi Salek? We're gonna fudge it a little, but, and no concert films.
8:42 Speaker 03 Okay.
8:43 Yasi Salek? The Talking Heads concert film is from this year.
8:45 Speaker 04 Rattle and Hum.
8:46 Yasi Salek? Yeah, Rattle and Hum also. And this is very sad for me, because an American tale, Bible, is really important to my childhood, but we will not be putting it in.
8:55 Speaker 04 Okay.
8:55 Yasi Salek? Or decline a western depiction, or erg, a music war.
8:59 Speaker 04 Do you feel like, as a group, and as people who are curating this list for Bandplain listeners?
9:06 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
9:06 Speaker 04 We should be going for films or soundtracks that rep the 80s? Or 80s movie soundtracks that are just great?
9:14 Yasi Salek? I'm so glad you asked this question, because I was like, oh, we need a table set on our value systems.
9:18 Speaker 04 Yes.
9:19 Yasi Salek? For me, what is meaningful to me is representation. Representation matters, is what I'm saying. But no, that's, that's kind of what I was looking at, but then obviously, still some other things get through that are just great, but they also still have some representation. So, the answer is, just go with your heart.
9:39 Speaker 04 Okay. I have one more. I mean, I could, I could probably pin this to one of my selections or one of my suggestions.
9:45 Yasi Salek? Mm-hmm.
9:45 Speaker 04 Would you rather I do that?
9:46 Yasi Salek? I don't know. I don't know what the question is.
9:49 Speaker 04 For you guys, how much does one song power a soundtrack?
9:52 Yasi Salek? That's a great question, because it's like, did you ever know that you're my hero?
9:58 Speaker 04 I didn't, but that's nice of you to say.
10:01 Speaker 03 That's from For the Boys.
10:03 Yasi Salek? Beaches.
10:04 Speaker 03 Beaches, okay. What's the song from For the Boys with Bed Midler? Different Bed Midler movie?
10:09 Speaker 04 I don't know.
10:10 Yasi Salek? Um, I, for me, when I was looking, I was like, that's not, that doesn't, that's not enough for me.
10:15 Speaker 04 Okay.
10:15 Yasi Salek? That's how I felt. I was like, there, there's some soundtracks that just have a god-tier one song.
10:21 Speaker 04 That's what I'm saying.
10:22 Yasi Salek? That like shaped culture, but then the rest of the soundtrack is like mid to ignorable. And I was like, that, because, because kind of how I think about it, and maybe this is incorrect, or maybe it's not about being correct or incorrect, is that soundtracks were portals to discovery. Like, we're not, it's gonna be hard, because we're not, we're not really talking about how the music appeared in the film. We're talking about how you could buy this CD and go home and be like, wow.
10:48 Speaker 04 Now I have a New Order song and a Psychedelic Fur song.
10:51 Yasi Salek? I think so. I mean, obviously, some of it's gonna be tied emotionally to how the songs appeared in the film. That's, you know, you can't get around that, but that's just my take on.
10:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, I mean, I think it's also probably important to note that they're tools of synergy in the rise of conglomerations of major, major media corporations. Like, when Universal and Sony and all of these companies started taking, started becoming not just about making one type of media.
11:16 Yasi Salek? Right.
11:16 Speaker 03 That they.
11:17 Yasi Salek? Like, how can we squeeze?
11:18 Speaker 03 Well, they would say, like, well, we have bands on Columbia.
11:21 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
11:21 Speaker 03 And we have this Sony film. How do we make like, make like, so that we can make more money? And a lot of these things that we venerate, for obvious artistic reasons, are just the product, especially in these cases of like, well, this was convenient, because these guys were on the label.
11:35 Yasi Salek? Yeah, I think some of them, and then some of them are like auteurs who really deeply care about music.
11:40 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean, to Sean's point, there's also examples of the soundtracks leading the way for the movie. You know, like, the soundtrack being so popular that the movie gets a longer window, has a second life.
11:51 Yasi Salek? We have an amazing example for that. I feel like me and you will have a overlap.
11:56 Speaker 04 Well, we almost wore the same shirt today.
11:57 Yasi Salek? I know.
11:58 Speaker 03 Really?
11:58 Speaker 04 My black and white shirt was in the wash, though.
12:00 Yasi Salek? Yes, me and Chris had a best friend night on Saturday, in which we went.
12:04 Speaker 04 Calling it that. We went to go see Angel Dust, best friend night.
12:09 Speaker 03 You guys went to a concert together.
12:10 Yasi Salek? Why isn't it a best friend night?
12:12 Speaker 04 But I just, I thought it was interesting, because I think, I can't remember where you shared this.
12:16 Yasi Salek? It was because when we went to Boston, I was like, oh, we're best friends now.
12:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:19 Yasi Salek? We spend four days together, nonstop. And then I was like, oh, it's so sad. I miss having our best friend time.
12:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:26 Yasi Salek? And then I was like, oh, let's go to this show, and it's a best friend night. And we had dinner, and went to a hardcore show.
12:33 Speaker 03 You know, because it is CR month.
12:35 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
12:35 Speaker 03 There's been like, a real, like, no, but CR is my best friend thing going on.
12:41 Speaker 03 We just had a very funny example of it yesterday on the rewatchables with, uh, with Bill and Andy and myself. And, you know, this is like a spell that Chris lays upon men and women, you know, where he's just, he's just like, he lures you in and he's like, come spend three days with me in an eastern seaboard town, and then you'll think we're really close.
13:01 Speaker 04 That's not, what are you talking about? We've been really close for decades now.
13:05 Yasi Salek? He just said that we're not really close. That's really hurtful. Listen, I don't have the wool over my, like, I know that Chris Ryan is out in these streets hoeing, friendship-wise, okay? I know that I'm not number one on the best friend policy.
13:21 Speaker 03 I'm just trying to say protect your heart. That's all I'm saying.
13:24 Yasi Salek? Where do I land in your best friend list? Am I like fat number five?
13:27 Speaker 03 You're, you're high up there right now.
13:28 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
13:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, I've kept my circle extremely tight in my 40s, so, uh, and I feel good about that choice.
13:33 Yasi Salek? The fact that I broke into number five, I feel pretty good about.
13:36 Speaker 03 You're just, you're, you are present, and I appreciate that. Not, not everyone is present.
13:40 Speaker 04 Me and Zach and, um...
13:43 Yasi Salek? Amanda.
13:43 Speaker 03 My daughter.
13:44 Speaker 04 And, and your daughter.
13:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's pretty much it. No, I have a great many friends, but not, um, not many that I see all the time.
13:49 Speaker 04 Okay.
13:50 Yasi Salek? Anyway, so we bought the same merch shirt.
13:52 Speaker 03 You literally, this shirt is from the show on Saturday.
13:55 Yasi Salek? That shirt.
13:55 Speaker 03 Oh, that shirt is from the show. How was the show?
13:57 Speaker 04 Good.
13:58 Yasi Salek? Really good, really fun.
13:59 Speaker 03 Wow.
13:59 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:00 Speaker 03 That's great. Nothing else? That's it? Two of the elite cultural commentators?
14:04 Speaker 04 Definitely check out Angel Dust's Cold to the Touch, and if, if you like it, get ready, because Yasi's got the singer from Angel Dust, Justice Tripp, on a future episode of Band's Flame.
14:14 Yasi Salek? Sure do.
14:15 Speaker 03 Oh.
14:15 Yasi Salek? Which also Chris is gonna be on, but I don't think it's gonna make it into Siarman.
14:19 Speaker 03 Okay, you guys are just alley-ooping each other here. This is really something.
14:22 Yasi Salek? Do you feel left out? This is what happens, like, three people go on a trip together, you know? Like a vacation.
14:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, it happens. What can you do?
14:30 Yasi Salek? Um, well, I'm so thrilled to do this with you guys.
14:33 Speaker 03 Thanks for inviting us.
14:34 Yasi Salek? If I haven't mentioned it.
14:36 Speaker 03 I still don't really know how this is gonna work, but I'm gonna roll with it.
14:38 Yasi Salek? I don't either. I mean, I knew how it was gonna work when we went through every single soundtrack's ever come out, and now, maybe we go around and each nominate one, okay, at a time? How does that, and then we can litigate? And then we can still do your, your... Colored card system that you do on.
14:56 Speaker 03 If you'd like, it's up to you.
14:58 Yasi Salek? Do you know the colored card system?
14:59 Speaker 04 Red, yellow, green.
15:00 Yasi Salek? Yeah, I feel like that's a nice, because I actually kind of have like 15. So I, you know.
15:06 Speaker 03 Sure, you think, maybe at the beginning, it's kind of like must haves, right?
15:10 Speaker 04 That's what I was thinking.
15:11 Speaker 03 You know, these are essential.
15:13 Yasi Salek? Immediate greens.
15:14 Speaker 04 And then it's like, oh, I can make a case for this. And then it might just be like, probably not going to go with me on it, but I gotta say, this one.
15:20 Yasi Salek? Okay.
15:22 Speaker 04 I think we have to start with Purple Rain.
15:23 Yasi Salek? I was gonna say the same.
15:24 Speaker 04 Uh, that's the greenest of greens, even though it's purple. Um, I did not know whether you felt like this broke any of your self-imposed rules of whether it's like a musical or a performance, like a concert film. But if you were making a list of just albums of the eighties, I think Purple Rain probably.
15:41 Yasi Salek? I just think Purple Rain transcends category.
15:45 Speaker 04 Okay.
15:45 Yasi Salek? Don't you think?
15:46 Speaker 04 You've never done Prince on Banzplane.
15:48 Yasi Salek? Oh, oh, you've never done Prince on Banzplane. You've never taken six months of your life to research the career of one of the greatest artists of all time. No, Chris, I haven't. Thanks for pointing it out.
16:01 Speaker 03 It sounds like you said you should get your shit together.
16:03 Speaker 04 I just meant that as like, uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you've done it. And I think that would be cool if you did, but don't, don't stress yourself about it.
16:12 Yasi Salek? I feel a little, um, not equipped to do it because I feel like the, like, one of the major parts of Prince's is musicality and famously, I don't understand musicality.
16:23 Speaker 04 People who know, like, Prince scholars are intimidating.
16:26 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
16:26 Speaker 04 When they're like, actually, it's this, the, the lost tape from the recording of Raspberry Beret that it features the B-side that.
16:34 Yasi Salek? Right, that has like a mandolin on it and it's tuned down or whatever. And I'm like, I don't know what that means, but I'll get a taste of it. This is a good place to tease a forthcoming Madonna month in May. Um, I'll probably get a taste of the deeply knowledgeable and passionate fanbase.
16:54 Speaker 03 Isn't Rob Harvilla a huge Prince fan?
16:56 Yasi Salek? That wouldn't make sense.
16:57 Speaker 03 I think he is, and I don't know that he's a scholar. And I know that what you're talking about, there's a certain type of person.
17:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, there's like that Alan Light, like I wrote a.
17:05 Yasi Salek? Didn't Wesley Morris do a whole podcast about Prince?
17:08 Speaker 04 Who?
17:09 Yasi Salek? Wesley Morris?
17:09 Speaker 04 Uh, he had a podcast called Do You Like Prince Movies? Which I think touched on Prince, but it was also a marketplace of ideas and style.
17:16 Yasi Salek? Got it.
17:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:17 Yasi Salek? Okay.
17:18 Speaker 03 Um, you ripped that show off, is that what you're saying?
17:20 Speaker 04 No, I was just saying it's like a chat show. Him and Alex Bapdinas.
17:23 Speaker 03 Wow, novel.
17:24 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
17:25 Speaker 03 Um.
17:25 Yasi Salek? I mean, Purple Rain goes crazy.
17:27 Speaker 03 I really like Prince. I love his music. I like this movie a lot, too. I don't know the history of the soundtrack versus the film. Were the songs written specifically for the film?
17:36 Speaker 04 I actually, I actually don't know either. I assume that he was like getting so big that they were like, we gotta make a movie with this guy. And then he was like, well, it just so happens I have 10 of the best songs ever written, so let's, let's play Darling Nikki, you know?
17:50 Yasi Salek? Yeah, I kind of think that is what happened, too. I actually didn't dive into it because I figured one of us would know, but it's not a musical. They're not songs that are like furthering plot or whatever. Yeah.
18:02 Speaker 04 Do you have a favorite Purple Rain song that isn't Dove's Cry, Purple Rain? And Let's Go Crazy?
18:08 Speaker 03 I think they're all pretty special. Computer Blue, like I, I. So I just read that, um, after the success of 1999, he went to his manager and said, I must be the star of a studio movie. Like, I want to be a Holly, in a Hollywood movie. And so that's where this came from. But it's a little unclear to me if this was like an album that was already going. And they found a way to bend it around it or what specifically? It's fascinating. I mean, you know, famously like not a very long album.
18:36 Yasi Salek? What's the last?
18:36 Speaker 03 Almost every song is featured in the film.
18:38 Speaker 04 Yeah. What's the last pop star who's tried to do something like this? Who's like that, that like, I'm gonna make a movie.
18:44 Yasi Salek? Where I'm the vehicle, the star and there's.
18:46 Speaker 03 Robbie Williams just did it.
18:47 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, I guess that's right.
18:48 Yasi Salek? So true. But, yeah, but didn't he, he included songs from his like past, like his oeuvre. He didn't write like new songs.
18:56 Speaker 03 For the film? That's a really good question. I'm sure there's got to be one in the last 15 years.
19:00 Speaker 04 It'd be cool if like the Deftones did this, you know?
19:03 Speaker 03 Deftones?
19:04 Yasi Salek? Me and you were in charge.
19:05 Speaker 04 Like if there was like a movie of, like, because like the thing is like Prince isn't Prince in this movie. He's like up and coming, right?
19:11 Yasi Salek? Oh, what about Eight Mile?
19:13 Speaker 03 There's not, there's not a whole album of original songs.
19:17 Speaker 04 Is there not?
19:18 Speaker 03 There are a lot of songs in the soundtrack and he's on, Eminem's on a few of them, but it's not an Eminem album.
19:22 Speaker 04 That's crazy.
19:23 Speaker 03 I feel like it came out very shortly after the Marshall Mathers LP, so it was sort of like, I don't know, he's crushing.
19:29 Speaker 04 Oh, two, what was that?
19:30 Speaker 03 Oh, two, yeah. Or maybe it's right around the Eminem show. Like, he already had, like, albums kind of in the mix, but, and that soundtrack still sold really well. But that, that is different, too. It's a really good question. I'm trying to think of an example of an artist who wrote songs for an album and then made that a part of the spine of the, a movie that they starred in.
19:48 Speaker 04 If I had a terminal disease and I had to make a wish.
19:51 Yasi Salek? Okay, like make a wish punishment?
19:52 Speaker 04 It would be for you to do Eminem on Band's Plane.
19:57 Yasi Salek? Could do.
19:58 Speaker 04 And for you to have to, like, read long stretches of Eminem lyrics.
20:01 Yasi Salek? And that would be actually really fun.
20:03 Speaker 03 What are your thoughts on Eminem?
20:04 Yasi Salek? I actually love Eminem.
20:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
20:06 Yasi Salek? I was at the Burger Shack down the hill from my house the other day, picking up a cheeseburger and some fries. And they, while I was waiting, they played music videos on the thing and they were playing the Real Some Shady video and I was like, we used to be a proper country.
20:21 Speaker 03 It's a special time.
20:22 Yasi Salek? They don't make this shit anymore. I also saw Eminem perform very early on at a Warped Tour. He was on an early Warped Tour and he got booed offstage. They pelted him with water bottles. They hated him. It was only, it was when just Real Some Shady had come out.
20:39 Yasi Salek? And he just wasn't that famous yet and it was like the complete wrong environment, I think. Oh, you would think it would make sense, but he hadn't, like, broken through yet.
20:46 Speaker 03 I think part of it was because they didn't know how to market him and they thought because he was a white rapper, like, maybe he was gonna be able to get in on that, like, kinda like skate punk.
20:54 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
20:54 Speaker 03 Rap rock crowd, but it really, like, more real rap fans liked him more than.
20:58 Yasi Salek? But, like, Body Count played the same Warped Tour and was welcomed with open arms.
21:02 Speaker 03 That's like a metal band, right?
21:03 Yasi Salek? Yeah, yeah.
21:03 Speaker 03 Um.
21:04 Yasi Salek? Interesting, but yeah, I like Eminem.
21:06 Speaker 03 I like him too. I mean, I don't really anymore, but I did a lot the first five or six years.
21:10 Yasi Salek? He needs to, like, you can't, here's the thing, men, if you're listening.
21:15 Yasi Salek? Please don't dye your facial hair. It's just never, it's not looking the way you think it's gonna look. That's my PSA.
21:23 Speaker 03 Have you considered that?
21:24 Speaker 04 Uh, no.
21:26 Speaker 03 You've been dying yours for years.
21:27 Yasi Salek? Are you not, I mean, I didn't know you with hair, but are you not kind of blonde anyways? Are you not a fair?
21:32 Speaker 04 Right, it's redder. It's red blonde, yeah. You used to be quite dark, yeah.
21:36 Yasi Salek? I just imagine if you dye your facial hair. Like an Auburn color. You look like a leprechaun.
21:44 Speaker 03 That's not very nice.
21:46 Yasi Salek? It's just not because he looks like a leprechaun. Does anyone with a red beard kind of looks like a leprechaun? That's a hallmark of a leprechaun.
21:52 Speaker 04 19 bands playing listeners just went unfollow. You don't think you have a red bearded listener out there?
21:59 Yasi Salek? I'm sure I have multiple red bearded listeners out there. And again, keep doing your bit.
22:04 Speaker 04 So I picked one that's green.
22:06 Yasi Salek? Okay, yeah, good job.
22:07 Speaker 04 Ben Rock?
22:07 Yasi Salek? Ben Rock?
22:08 Speaker 03 This is not 1980s, but I do think the Ramones for Rock and Roll High School is like the closest we can get to the Purple Rain thing.
22:15 Yasi Salek? Oh, that's really good.
22:15 Speaker 04 Good pick.
22:16 Speaker 03 Right?
22:16 Yasi Salek? That's really good.
22:17 Speaker 03 Probably, I'm sure there's others, but okay. Purple Rain is a must.
22:21 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
22:22 Speaker 03 Similarly, I think Do the Right Thing is a must. And kind of an interesting one where it seems like at first, all you can hear is Fight the Power famously in that opening credits scene. And that wasn't the introduction of Public Enemy, but like Public Enemy being forcibly shown at a wider pop culture that maybe wasn't paying attention to hip hop till that point.
22:43 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
22:43 Speaker 03 But then also like, you know, EU and Steel Pulse and Teddy Riley and Guy and all of those acts are all on that album.
22:50 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:51 Speaker 03 And...
22:52 Speaker 04 Was it the Ruben Blade song is last on that record?
22:54 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Al Jarreau, like, there's a bunch of mostly R&B songs on the album. And, you know, there's obviously a DJ, the Sam Jackson character, who's kind of communicating throughout the day with music to the people of the community.
23:07 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
23:08 Speaker 03 And I think it's like one of the three or four most important moments in the mainstream ification of rap music in America. So...
23:20 Yasi Salek? I have like a little pushback.
23:21 Speaker 03 Okay, go ahead, pushback.
23:25 Yasi Salek? Okay, hear me out.
23:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:27 Yasi Salek? Wild Style. I kind of feel like is a better hip hop soundtrack. More discovery.
23:35 Speaker 04 If that's the.
23:36 Speaker 03 Is that what we're talking about?
23:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:38 Yasi Salek? Is it a better soundtrack? Do you not think it's a better soundtrack than?
23:42 Speaker 03 This raises an interesting question that we don't really have an answer for when we do the halls of fame on the big picture, which is, is it important? Is it impact? Is it personal taste in terms of quality?
23:56 Speaker 03 I think it's all up for discussion, obviously.
23:58 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
23:59 Speaker 03 But in terms of like seismic impact, I would say Fight the Power is a much more culturally significant song.
24:05 Yasi Salek? It's kind of like what Chris said, though, it's just the one song.
24:09 Speaker 03 Maybe.
24:09 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean, I think that there are other tracks like the die track on this. But I also think that the importance of like Fight the Power being used or the opening credits.
24:20 Yasi Salek? Right.
24:20 Speaker 04 In a way that was so rooted in music video culture at that time, if not like the editing style, but the idea of signing your your document like in the first minutes with like a battle cry song and like a really beautiful piece of choreography. Is like very distinctively eighties and coming out of like the power of MTV at that moment. I I think it's I think it's green, but if you if you feel like, I mean, you could you could say wild style if you want, and we could put that as green or yellow.
24:50 Speaker 03 Well, the weird thing about it is, I think if you were talking about the quality of a hip hop album soundtrack. I would go crush groove over wild style.
25:00 Yasi Salek? There's also crush groove.
25:00 Speaker 03 Because crush groove is like in the mid eighties in that synthesis moment where we're kind of moving beyond Grandmaster Flash and Melly Mel and kind of going towards like LL Cool J, Run DMC.
25:12 Yasi Salek? Beastie Boys is on here, yeah.
25:13 Speaker 03 And.
25:14 Yasi Salek? We also have Shaka Khan, Sheila E.
25:16 Speaker 03 Yeah, I mean, and just song for song.
25:18 Yasi Salek? Fat Boys.
25:19 Speaker 03 I prefer crush groove if you're talking about those early films, you know, wild style, Beat Street.
25:23 Speaker 04 I would probably almost go tougher than leather.
25:26 Speaker 03 That's true. That is a soundtrack. I guess I don't think of it like a soundtrack, but it is.
25:29 Speaker 04 It has Mary Mary on it and beats the rhyme.
25:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, you want to limit this to one rap?
25:35 Yasi Salek? I think so, only because, not because that, you know, just because Bandzane and me and my ability to tackle a rap album is probably gonna be difficult. Um, let's give it a yellow for now.
25:50 Speaker 03 What would you most like to spend time breaking down?
25:53 Yasi Salek? Probably Wild Style. My, my argument for Wild Style is more that like, it launched like a thousand ships, like Massive, the members of Massive Attack heard Wild Style or saw Wild Style and were, were exposed to this music and like it changed their lives and how they approached, you know, DJing and then it ended up splintering off all these genres. It was, I think it was such an important cultural moment for the early spread of hip hop. Whereas like, I totally get what you're saying about By the Power. It's like so iconic.
26:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:26 Yasi Salek? It's just two different things, right?
26:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's an age thing too. It's like, I don't, I don't ever listen to Wild Style.
26:31 Yasi Salek? Me neither. And I didn't.
26:32 Speaker 04 Listen to the fight.
26:33 Yasi Salek? I was one when it came out and experienced it in my life, but I'm just trying to imagine, you know, what, like, what if you picked up the CD would have changed your life in a different way?
26:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, I, I've thought about this a little bit because there's, in the seventies, there's a great example of this and in the eighties, there's a great one too. But there are soundtracks that are going back to the 1950s with the sort of like origins of rock and roll. And you don't find a lot of people that go back to the origins of rock and roll these days where they listen to like 50s rhythm and blues or doo-wop, even though those sounds are so instrumental to The Beatles or The Eagles or whatever like evolution of rock and roll that comes in the next few decades. Grandmaster Kaz is kind of like that with the 50s where it's like, there is no rap without him and, and without Cold Crush Brothers and a couple of those other artists. But you don't hear those songs like at weddings.
27:21 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
27:21 Speaker 03 You know, they don't, they have not like permeated the cult, the popular culture in the same way.
27:25 Yasi Salek? It's true.
27:25 Speaker 03 So.
27:27 Yasi Salek? You're great.
27:27 Speaker 03 It's up to you in terms of how you'd want to spend your time, I would say.
27:30 Speaker 04 I would, I would say make that and Wild Style yellow.
27:33 Yasi Salek? Okay, we'll make them yellow for now and we'll, it's a great, it's a great conversation.
27:37 Speaker 03 It is, yeah, I figured we would have it fairly early. It's like, it's the thing that I have probably like studied the most as well in, in this particular world. And I think Wild Style is a really cool movie. We'll do The Right Thing as a.
27:48 Yasi Salek? Masterpiece.
27:48 Speaker 03 Masterpiece.
27:48 Yasi Salek? Right.
27:49 Speaker 03 But just like the way that, I really like when new genres of music come into other forms of media and the way that, like, this is a case where using a movie to popularize a subculture is really fascinating, but Wild Style was not like a very popular movie.
28:06 Yasi Salek? No.
28:06 Speaker 03 It was kind of an underground cult movie.
28:07 Yasi Salek? I think it was pretty underseen at the time. Okay, I'll do my absolute green.
28:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:13 Yasi Salek? Pretty in Pink.
28:14 Speaker 03 Great.
28:14 Speaker 04 Okay.
28:15 Yasi Salek? Yeah. I feel like Pretty in Pink has, I mean, If You Leave by OMD, written specifically for this film. Think it has like the first inclusion of a Smith song on a soundtrack that kind of like helped bolster their
28:33 Yasi Salek? popularity in America. Obviously, the film was like kind of inspired by the psychedelic first song, Pretty in Pink. It's just wall to wall bangers, New Order.
28:43 Speaker 04 Bring on the dancing horses.
28:44 Yasi Salek? Bring on the dancing, Nick Kershaw's Wouldn't It Be Good, low key.
28:47 Speaker 04 I would say this is my second favorite John Hughes soundtrack.
28:50 Yasi Salek? What's your first favorite?
28:51 Speaker 04 My first, we were going to have the conversation, my first favorite's Ferris.
28:55 Yasi Salek? Oh.
28:55 Speaker 03 So I was gonna ask, do you need to put a cap on the number of John Hughes soundtracks?
29:01 Yasi Salek? No.
29:01 Speaker 03 I really like Ferris too, but I'm not even sure if that's my favorite.
29:04 Speaker 04 What's, what's your favorite?
29:05 Speaker 03 Breakfast Club and Some Kind of Wonderful are really good. I think there's a case to be made for Weird Science. It's like a pretty bold act of soundtracking. Sixteen Candles.
29:16 Yasi Salek? Did that have a great soundtrack?
29:18 Speaker 03 It seemed, it seemed.
29:19 Speaker 04 I didn't have Sixteen Candles on my list. I had Ferris because I think Ferris represents a really eighties, like eclecticism that was sort of.
29:29 Speaker 04 A big offshoot of like college radio where it was like, I like weird new wave novelty songs. And also like electronic music and Twist and Shout. And I like John Lennon, but also I like Joy Division, you know, kind of thing. Joy Division's not on this, but the Beat City, the Yellow song, then the Dream Academy cover, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want.
29:56 Yasi Salek? I think, and this might be incorrect, but I don't think it had a soundtrack that was commercially released.
30:02 Speaker 04 What?
30:03 Yasi Salek? Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
30:04 Speaker 04 It came out briefly, like there was a brief, like, we're releasing the Ferris Bueller soundtrack. But I think that it's like, it almost exists as a mixtape.
30:14 Yasi Salek? Interesting. Does that count?
30:16 Speaker 04 I, to me, it's, it's probably the, personally, the most indelible soundtrack of my, my eighties experience.
30:23 Yasi Salek? Interesting.
30:24 Speaker 03 I, I wonder if it's because it is a little different from a lot of the other John Hughes soundtracks, which feel like all songs that were written for the films. And this is much more of this like calling from the past and including some contemporary stuff.
30:37 Yasi Salek? Right.
30:37 Speaker 03 To represent what the kids would like. I don't know. They're, they're two totally different styles. Isn't Big Audio Dynamite on that too?
30:46 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
30:48 Speaker 03 I don't know. Maybe, maybe they both are.
30:50 Speaker 04 I would say that in the same way that Ferris, the character, is popular with like dweebs, jocks, et cetera.
30:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
30:58 Speaker 04 There's something for everyone on this soundtrack.
31:00 Speaker 03 Like it's, it's C R month. You're the Ferris of our lives.
31:03 Speaker 04 No, come on.
31:04 Speaker 03 Yeah, on the float, right? Would you ever want to be on a float?
31:07 Yasi Salek? Like a parade float?
31:08 Speaker 03 Yeah.
31:08 Speaker 04 And singing Twist and Shout?
31:10 Yasi Salek? Why would I have to sing?
31:12 Speaker 04 Well, I guess he doesn't sing. He kind of lip syncs, right?
31:14 Yasi Salek? Oh, in the movie.
31:16 Speaker 03 Hit us with your public waving stance. That's nice.
31:20 Speaker 04 That's weird.
31:20 Yasi Salek? I know, it's a little weird. I don't know.
31:22 Speaker 03 It's like, kind of like, um.
31:24 Yasi Salek? Well, we can give them both yellow. I just like, me personally, I think the Ferris Bueller tracks are weaker.
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32:03 Speaker 04 Um, I guess it kind of goes back to me.
32:06 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
32:07 Speaker 04 Let's do my other, one of my other musts would be Repo Man.
32:13 Yasi Salek? Oh, yeah, okay. Well, I have that on.
32:14 Speaker 04 Um, speaking of soundtracks that feel completely ingrained in the culture of the film itself.
32:20 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
32:21 Speaker 04 And an example of a soundtrack that led the way for the movie to get a more wide release and have like a longer kind of shelf life with film-going audiences. And this is Alex Cox's 1984.
32:35 Yasi Salek? Four.
32:35 Speaker 04 Movie about, um, go-nowhere nihilistic Southern California punk rockers who become a punk rocker who becomes a repo man with Harry Dean Stanton. Millie Estevez plays Repo Man. And then the soundtrack features Iggy Pop's titular Repo Man song.
32:52 Yasi Salek? Yep.
32:53 Speaker 04 Uh, and then great collection of Southern California punk rock, like Black Flag and Suicide Offenses, et cetera.
33:00 Yasi Salek? Yeah. I mean, I'm a hard yes, hard green on this one. Um, I think it's very.
33:07 Speaker 04 Vivital.
33:08 Yasi Salek? Well, yeah, it's just like, it's, it's like a slice of life, right? Like you buy the soundtrack and you're like, oh, I get to see what a scene looked like. Cause it's very much a scene of Los Angeles in a part from the Iggy Pop thing. Circle Jerks, Black, I mean, everything you have in, I think Circle Jerks is in the film.
33:24 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm. A lot of stuff was shot down here, where our offices are.
33:30 Speaker 03 Very bandsplain-coated album and film, I would say. Just in terms of style and taste and the kind of like absurdity of the movie and how it intersects with some of the absurdity of the songs, too. Can I just throw something out that I think is, I don't, you may not be interested in this, but it's on the long list. And it's an interesting topic of conversation because of the way that we consume culture now. There's a somewhat less celebrated movie nowadays called Good Morning Vietnam.
33:55 Speaker 04 Yeah, sure.
33:57 Speaker 03 Which was a Barry Levinson film starring Robin Williams about an armed services DJ during the Vietnam War, who has a kind of like irreverent style, speaking to the troops over the airwaves. And he only plays 50s and 60s rock and roll, all stuff that's been approved, basically, by the armed forces to play. But the things that he says in his commentary is very, like, sometimes incendiary and sometimes kind of like subtly.
34:25 Speaker 04 Well, Bruno Kirby wants him to play Perry Como.
34:27 Speaker 03 Right.
34:27 Speaker 04 And then he starts playing Motown, right?
34:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, Nowhere to Run, you know, and songs like that, which are obviously like all kind of subtextually speaking to the conflict in Vietnam. The movie is like, good. I like it. I think it's sturdy and well-made and Robin Williams just gets to kind of riff like times a million because of the format of just playing a DJ.
34:47 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
34:48 Speaker 03 But the thing that the soundtrack did is that it retained his introductions.
34:52 Yasi Salek? Hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:54 Speaker 03 And his dialogue from the movie, so that as you're listening to the soundtrack, you are listening to him set up scenes and set up moments in the film through this broadcaster persona that he has. And I listened to this soundtrack all the time as a kid. And then as I got older, you know, this is something that like Quentin Tarantino adopted. And you find in his movies where you get snatches of dialogue.
35:15 Yasi Salek? Yeah, yeah.
35:16 Speaker 03 Or the Steven Wright DJ character from Reservoir Dogs appearing on the soundtracks. And I think this is the first movie that ever did that.
35:21 Speaker 04 Did they not do that in graffiti or anything like that? Probably not, right?
35:25 Speaker 03 There is some Wolfman Jack on the American Graffiti soundtrack, but it's not utilized in the same way.
35:31 Speaker 03 And it's just really entertaining and like a fun, it's like an innovation, I think.
35:36 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
35:36 Speaker 03 In terms of soundtracks. And the songs are all really good. You know, it's like the Beach Boys and James Brown and Van Morrison and The Voes. And there's a ton of great tunes. It's not 80s music, though.
35:45 Yasi Salek? That's, okay, so it's an interesting.
35:47 Speaker 04 The other one that I was gonna throw out there, this goes hand in hand with Good Morning Vietnam, would be The Big Chill.
35:53 Yasi Salek? Yeah, and I have, I obviously have that on my long list. Those are, those ones are tough because I feel like in my rubric, they're, it's almost like a Forrest Gump soundtrack or whatever, you know, it's like,
36:05 Yasi Salek? is this indicative of what was going on in the eighties?
36:08 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
36:09 Yasi Salek? Not really, right?
36:10 Speaker 04 No, but it would be indicative of boomers' taste.
36:15 Yasi Salek? Sure.
36:16 Speaker 04 I mean, it was, Big Chill and Good Morning Vietnam are nineteen eighties movies that are celebrating the taste of people who had the experiences that the characters had in the movie.
36:25 Yasi Salek? Yeah, and I'm not saying they were wrong.
36:27 Speaker 04 No, I know.
36:28 Yasi Salek? To do so. I'm just not, I don't know if they, it fits in with like, what we try to talk about here, you know?
36:35 Speaker 03 So we're continuing to-
36:35 Yasi Salek? Also, I just don't think it would be that interesting.
36:37 Speaker 03 We're continuing to unpack like what the mission of this project will be.
36:40 Yasi Salek? Right, which is-
36:41 Speaker 03 Which is for you, you wanted to represent the music of the eighties.
36:44 Yasi Salek? Yes.
36:44 Speaker 03 Okay.
36:45 Yasi Salek? Okay. That's kind of an interest of mine with soundtracks is discovery and, and like showing people a thing that's contemporaneously happening, but also because it's, it would not be interesting for us to do a Bandplain episode about songs from the fifties on the Good Morning Vietnam soundtrack.
37:02 Speaker 03 I don't know, you'd be surprised.
37:03 Yasi Salek? You think?
37:04 Speaker 03 I, I, I don't know, like, James Brown and Van Morrison are like as much Bandplain to me as Pretty in Pink, you know, I don't, you know, in terms of like-
37:13 Yasi Salek? But when we do the soundtrack, we don't talk, we talk about like how, you've done them before with us. We talk about how these songs end up on the soundtrack and what part they play, you know, and I don't know if like, there's that much there there to be like, I just like the Beach Boys, I get around.
37:29 Speaker 04 But I think to Sean's point.
37:30 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
37:30 Speaker 04 Music is very integral, like the way that they use music in Good Morning Vietnam and the way it's like right there with the character, I would say also with Big Chill, songs are played diegetically, so like they'll be dancing to Motown songs in the kitchen, or they're shot almost like a music video, so like when the wait, the band song, the wait is used in the Big Chill, it's basically like a music video of these people waking up after a night of doing drugs.
37:53 Yasi Salek? Right.
37:55 Speaker 04 I, but I hear what you're saying, um, let's see how many, let's see if there's any spot for boomers.
38:02 Yasi Salek? Okay.
38:03 Speaker 04 With like the tenth pick.
38:04 Yasi Salek? Let's see if we have any room for the boomers.
38:05 Speaker 04 What's your next, uh, must-have?
38:07 Yasi Salek? Um, there's a film from nineteen eighty-nine, written and directed by Cameron Crowe, and it's called Say Anything.
38:15 Speaker 04 Okay.
38:16 Yasi Salek? The soundtrack.
38:19 Yasi Salek? Is just gorgeous, babe.
38:22 Speaker 04 Is the soundtrack gorgeous, or is "In Your Eyes" gorgeous?
38:25 Yasi Salek? Babe, you have "Taste the Pain" by Red Hot Chili Peppers, you have "Depeche Mode" song stripped, you have "Within Your Reach," one of the greatest replacement songs that has a weird drum machine. I feel like it's a very cool and interesting soundtrack. But yes, "In Your Eyes" is also very gorgeous.
38:40 Speaker 04 Got some Joe Satriani.
38:42 Yasi Salek? Got some Satrians, babe.
38:43 Speaker 03 Where are you guys at on Satriani these days?
38:47 Yasi Salek? It's a nice punchline that I always use for men that like complicated guitar rock playing. But I don't know much about him besides that.
38:53 Speaker 04 I just, when I was into hair metal, he featured heavily in Circus Magazine.
38:57 Speaker 03 Satriani, Steve Vai?
38:59 Speaker 04 I'm more of a Vai guy.
39:00 Speaker 03 A Vai guy.
39:02 Speaker 04 This works for you, even though there's like some Dylan and Steely Dan.
39:08 Yasi Salek? Not on the actual soundtrack.
39:10 Speaker 04 Oh, okay.
39:10 Speaker 03 The soundtrack is just 10 songs.
39:12 Speaker 04 Just all the like.
39:12 Speaker 03 And now, this, again, like was Cult of Personality...
39:15 Yasi Salek? Ishbone is on here, Living Color is on here.
39:17 Speaker 03 Was Cult of Personality, at least before this movie came out?
39:21 Yasi Salek? I don't know, off the top of my head.
39:23 Speaker 03 This isn't, this part of it is interesting to explore.
39:26 Yasi Salek? Right.
39:26 Speaker 03 Because Cameron Crowe, obviously, his whole life is making mixtapes. And he's one of the great soundtrack makers because he's so good. You know, "Fast Times" is also a really good soundtrack that feels similar, but also different because it's pulling from like what was on AM radio like five years before the movie came out. And that like defined some of the taste of the kids who were in high school at that time, which I always thought was such a smart idea.
39:46 Yasi Salek? Yes, it came out in 88.
39:48 Speaker 03 Eighty, Living Color came out in eighty-eight.
39:50 Speaker 04 The lead single off of their album Vivid.
39:52 Speaker 03 And Peter Gabriel's "In Your Eyes," not written for this movie either. So, like, you're interested in like a jukebox kind of a thing? Where somebody is like pulling from the contemporary hits?
40:04 Yasi Salek? Yeah, I mean, Repo Man, there's one song that's written for the film. The rest were just tapped and cold. They existed, you know?
40:11 Speaker 03 Sweet. I'm just learning, trying to learn about you.
40:13 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
40:14 Speaker 03 What's like, what's in your heart?
40:15 Yasi Salek? I love to, we love to learn about each other. Here's a fun fact, well, you probably know because you've seen the film, but...
40:21 Yasi Salek? That Mother Love Bones, Chloe Dancer, Crown of Thorns is featured in the film, but not on the soundtrack.
40:26 Speaker 04 I love that song.
40:28 Speaker 03 Why didn't he get to the soundtrack?
40:29 Yasi Salek? Maybe he was saving it for singles.
40:30 Speaker 03 Could have been.
40:31 Yasi Salek? Because there's also two Soundgarden songs in the film, but not on the soundtrack. It's like he was already kind of like gearing up for the vibes of singles.
40:38 Speaker 03 And isn't Nancy Wilson from Seattle? And that's also part of how Hebe came so hooked in with Seattle.
40:43 Yasi Salek? That's the whole way he got hooked in. I'm glad to know that your memory is just as addled as mine because we did the singles episode together.
40:51 Speaker 03 Did we talk about that specifically?
40:53 Yasi Salek? It was a long time ago. I can't remember anything.
40:54 Speaker 03 How many years ago do you think that episode was?
40:56 Yasi Salek? Probably two.
40:57 Speaker 03 Can, that can't be true.
40:59 Speaker 04 Well, now she's getting into the possibility of redoing because that's the whole March Bandness thing is like possibly redoing some of those.
41:05 Speaker 03 Well, some of those early episodes are very short.
41:07 Yasi Salek? Two and a half years ago, it was October 23rd.
41:09 Speaker 04 The episodes are really short, then they got super long and now they're kind of in the middle.
41:15 Yasi Salek? They're still pretty long.
41:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:17 Yasi Salek? I think Our Jimmy World was four hours.
41:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, that's true.
41:20 Yasi Salek? So I don't, I don't know if we got that short. I just let, let the people, I'm letting the people vote. I'm letting democracy guide my hand.
41:30 Speaker 03 It usually works. It's been a very.
41:32 Yasi Salek? Yeah, that's what I, I mean, people are really mad about it and I was like, well, this is, look, look at your.
41:37 Speaker 03 What's winning? What's been, what's been the highest vote getter thus far?
41:41 Yasi Salek? It's funny because you could tell that the last four were like supposed to be the last four because the two last races were super tight.
41:52 Yasi Salek? But R E M beat the Replacements.
41:54 Speaker 03 I saw this and I was so upset.
41:55 Yasi Salek? I know, I want, I secretly.
41:57 Speaker 03 And it was like 5149.
41:58 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
41:58 Speaker 04 But it's not a vote about who's a better band.
42:00 Yasi Salek? Well, some people did probably treat it like that.
42:03 Speaker 04 The guys with red beards.
42:04 Yasi Salek? The red beards.
42:04 Speaker 04 Like, arrgh, it's time for me to vote for this.
42:07 Yasi Salek? That was a good one.
42:08 Speaker 03 Have you spent much time with R E M recently?
42:10 Speaker 04 Recently?
42:11 Speaker 03 Yeah, I mean, the last five years.
42:12 Yasi Salek? You and Bill Berry when we wrote.
42:13 Speaker 04 Uh, select songs.
42:17 Speaker 03 Did you, Stipe came out and sang with who? With Michael Shannon's band?
42:20 Speaker 04 With his cover band.
42:21 Yasi Salek? With the R E M cover band.
42:23 Speaker 04 Shannon fronts R E M.
42:24 Speaker 03 Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:25 Yasi Salek? With Jason Narduzzi from Supertrump.
42:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
42:29 Speaker 03 And what did he sing?
42:30 Speaker 04 Something from, I can't remember. Fables of the Reconstruction.
42:33 Speaker 03 That's what it was, yeah. And he sounded good.
42:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, he does.
42:36 Yasi Salek? People who love R E M are like Grateful Dead people. Like, they're so deep.
42:40 Speaker 03 I know.
42:41 Yasi Salek? And beloved in their own just.
42:42 Speaker 03 I'm like one tier below that.
42:43 Speaker 04 That's where I am.
42:44 Yasi Salek? Same, and I love R E M, but it's just the Replacements are fucking cooler. So I just like spending time with their story a little bit more.
42:52 Speaker 04 Me too.
42:53 Speaker 03 You know, they're the best.
42:54 Yasi Salek? Darling, when time has come. The Replacements, I do. Anyways, I can still do whatever I want. I can do them both over again.
43:00 Speaker 04 Are you making say anything green?
43:02 Yasi Salek? Um, well, I don't know. You guys seemed kind of like meh on it. Should we throw a yellow and see what we come back to?
43:08 Speaker 03 This is a process of discovery.
43:10 Yasi Salek? Uh. Because you might say it right now.
43:12 Speaker 04 Married to the Mob.
43:13 Yasi Salek? Oh, I have that. That's also one of mine.
43:14 Speaker 03 Hell, yeah.
43:15 Speaker 04 Uh, I wanted to highlight a Jonathan Demme movie because Jonathan Demme has such great music taste and was like a, you know, he makes, um, Stop Making Sense. And he directs New Order music videos and has always used great music in his movies in new and surprising ways. But Married to the Mob is just like an incredible snapshot of, of New York, New Jersey, Long Island cool of 1980s. And it's got the Phillies and Tom Tom Club and New Order. And I think it's the first appearance of Goodbye Horses.
43:46 Speaker 03 It sure is.
43:47 Speaker 04 Um.
43:49 Yasi Salek? God tier.
43:50 Speaker 04 To me, this is like.
43:51 Yasi Salek? To me, you are perfect.
43:52 Speaker 04 Uh, what's the right way to say this? The cooler version of a John Hughes soundtrack?
43:56 Yasi Salek? Yeah, totally. Like, more edgy. I think very early appearance of Sinead O'Connor, which is really cool.
44:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, opens the film.
44:03 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
44:03 Speaker 03 Um, one thing I really like that he does in a lot of his movies is he just meets artists.
44:09 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
44:09 Speaker 03 And he just builds scenes around them in his movies. And like, so they go to the club in this movie. They go to SOBs.
44:15 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
44:15 Speaker 03 And they watch an act perform. And that act, like, it just gets to do their music.
44:19 Yasi Salek? What's the other Jonathan Demme movie that also has a bunch of feel it, Something Wild?
44:22 Speaker 03 Something Wild.
44:23 Yasi Salek? That was like on my kind of long list because also has such, this one's just better.
44:27 Speaker 04 That has a lot of feel it. That's like basically a soundtrack by the feel it.
44:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, it's kind of, kind of more post punk. This is like a real, like, he's really in a world music. Like, he really picks from all over the world. But like, he puts Robin Hitchcock in his movies all the time.
44:40 Yasi Salek? He had such a great Robin Hitchcock.
44:42 Speaker 04 This soundtrack weirdly reminds me a bit of the soundtrack to Carlos, which is Olivia Asas's two part, Carlos the Jackal, the sort of 1970s terrorist. Okay, well, it's really cool because it's about like this guy going all over the world and, and pushing his agenda. But then all the soundtrack is Wire, uh, Feelies, New Order, stuff like that.
45:09 Yasi Salek? Yeah, now, now I'll check it out. Yeah, this is really, this is on my shortlist as well, because I'm best friends.
45:19 Yasi Salek? I've not been keeping track of it.
45:20 Speaker 04 So what do we have right now? Just give us a little recap of what we've got so far.
45:22 Yasi Salek? And we're not keeping track of it. Um, we have Green, Repo Man, Purple Rain, Married to the Mob. And then we have Yellow, Do the Right Thing, Wild Style, Pretty and Pink Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
45:41 Speaker 03 I'm gonna pitch one.
45:42 Yasi Salek? Oh, and say anything?
45:43 Speaker 03 I don't know that I like it.
45:45 Yasi Salek? Okay.
45:46 Speaker 03 But I do think it's important. That's Top Gun.
45:51 Speaker 03 I think you could make the case that Top Gun is really just two songs, that it's Danger Zone and Take My Breath Away. But they're such big songs and they're so instrumental to the movie. And then in addition to that, you do have like, um,
46:05 Speaker 04 Playing with the Boys.
46:05 Speaker 03 Great Balls of Fire and, um, we have Playing with the Boys, the Kenny Loggins song. You've got, um, Uh, Heaven in Your Eyes, the Love of Boys song. There's like, there's some popular songs here, but then also lots of older music too, that is prominently featured. And this is the movie that was accused of really like, of music videificationing cinema. And kind of like ruining movies in some ways and also kind of making them more appealing to broader pop audiences.
46:32 Yasi Salek? You don't think it ruined movies, you love it.
46:33 Speaker 03 I'm not a Top Gun person. I've said this, I mean, I think it's fine. I much prefer Top Gun Maverick. There's like kind of a sheen of cheese on Top Gun that I never really connected with.
46:46 Speaker 03 It's just a little hokey to me. But I know that, you know, millions and millions of people absolutely love it. And it is really, it's doing the thing that you're describing too, which is like the sound of this music and some of these bands like Berlin.
47:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
47:02 Speaker 04 It's so evocative.
47:03 Speaker 03 Eighties to the max, like they couldn't exist in any other decade.
47:05 Yasi Salek? Totally. And it's so funny because I feel like in my mind, there's two like huge soundtracks of the eighties and it's Top Gun and Dirty Dancing.
47:14 Speaker 03 Mm hmm.
47:15 Yasi Salek? But Dirty Dancing, even though like I want to kind of shoehorn it in, is doing the thing that I already said that.
47:21 Speaker 04 You can't, you can't put Dirty Dancing in, unfortunately. I mean, you can, but it's.
47:24 Yasi Salek? But it's all old songs, except for She's Like the Wind, Shut Up My Man, Patrick Swayze.
47:30 Speaker 04 Right.
47:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, I feel like the most popular song from the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, besides those two, was Stay, which was written in the fifties.
47:38 Yasi Salek? What a fantastic song. Also in the Grease soundtrack.
47:40 Speaker 03 Incredible song.
47:41 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
47:42 Speaker 04 So we're making this yellow or green? Top Gun?
47:46 Yasi Salek? Why don't we put it in yellow with the likelihood it'll be.
47:50 Speaker 04 Shading a green.
47:50 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
47:51 Speaker 03 When I was doing, so I did my own personal list of just like off the top of my head soundtracks before you shared your longer list.
47:57 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
47:57 Speaker 03 And the first one I wrote down was Repo Man and the second one I wrote down was Top Gun and the third one I wrote down was Purple Rain.
48:02 Yasi Salek? Okay, so yeah.
48:03 Speaker 04 So we're doing, we're doing well.
48:04 Yasi Salek? I'm gonna do Valley Girl.
48:08 Speaker 03 Cool.
48:08 Speaker 04 Cool.
48:09 Yasi Salek? Nineteen eighty-three, prime Nicolas Cage hours, but the soundtrack is, we kind of covered, I feel like, we've, we've talked about several strands of like popular music of the eighties, or maybe not popular, but like important subcultural music of the eighties, hip hop, punk. This one's new wave, right?
48:28 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
48:29 Yasi Salek? And it's got Slim Souls, it's got Josie Cotton, Johnny R. Queer, Sparks is on here. It's a good lens on like what was happening with like this kind of music.
48:39 Speaker 04 I figured it was gonna be hard to build this Hall of Fame with, with you without Valley Girl.
48:44 Speaker 03 So in twenty nineteen, we did this podcast series that Amy Nicholson hosted called Quentin Tarantino's Feature Presentation.
48:52 Yasi Salek? Okay.
48:53 Speaker 03 We presented five movies to him that were critical to his life development, taste, personal experience.
49:00 Speaker 03 And Amy and I picked them together and kind of like looked at lists of movies that he had talked about in the past or that seemed to be instrumental to his life. And we picked for him Valley Girl. And he talked about Valley Girl at length in the episode. It was really interesting. And he was a little bit like mixed on the movie itself. And he was a little bit like, I'm not totally sure why you picked this for me. But then, once we got him talking about it, and especially about the music, his recall is just unbelievable. And he talked about how, when this movie came out, the songs that were in the film were still playing on K-Rock. And I remember this vividly because he pronounced it K-R-O-Q. And I'd never heard anybody say that. And that's how he says it.
49:37 Yasi Salek? People, I mean, people used to say that.
49:38 Speaker 03 Some people say it that way. But he was talking about, I don't know, like maybe hearing a Sparks song or something on the radio. And then that appearing in the movie and how crazy that was. And that in and of itself is a really interesting accomplishment of being able to really be so tapped in.
49:53 Yasi Salek? Sure.
49:54 Speaker 03 And your movie moves so fast that when it hits the world, it feels right on time.
49:59 Speaker 04 I think we can't help but be biographical and maybe a little bit like West Coast centric in this. I mean, like, we are who we are, living where we are now. So this makes a lot of sense.
50:10 Yasi Salek? It's just like, also, like, it's just super strong. It's like banger after banger. There's like no dead space on the soundtrack. If you bought this, you'd be like, oh, yeah.
50:24 Speaker 04 Okay, you're yellow or green for that?
50:25 Yasi Salek? I'm gonna green that one. If you guys feel okay about it.
50:28 Speaker 04 We'll see where we're at at the end. I think we still have to have a John Hughes fight.
50:30 Yasi Salek? Yes.
50:31 Speaker 04 We may have to like get the, get the actual songs out and be like, this is better. I want to throw something at you guys, which is like, we're obviously talking about broadly cool music.
50:40 Yasi Salek? Right.
50:41 Speaker 04 And we've discounted music that is like oldie station soundtracks like Big Chill and Good Morning Vietnam. But what we haven't discussed is soundtracks that have Dio and Foreigner on them. So I want to nominate two, and we can have this conversation. One is Vision Quest, which has Crazy For You, which is my favorite Madonna song. And that was like, basically the video is just Vision Quest footage.
51:06 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
51:07 Speaker 04 But it also has like Sammy Hagar and Foreigner and John Wade and Dio. And it's kind of like more the kind of 80s rock you would hear on the radio in the Pacific Northwest. The other one I wanted to throw out was Color of Money, which is Glossy eighties mainstream blues rock from like Clapton and Don Henley. And it has World of London, iconic use of that song. But neither are like cool new wave or cool alt rock from that period. But both are probably like a way more popular collection of songs during that time period was like Don Henley and Eric Clapton.
51:47 Yasi Salek? No, I think I wrote this down where I was like, the chokehold that Rick Springfield and like Boss Skaggs had on the soundtracks of the eighties. And you're like booked and busy, babe, Rick Springfield in the eighties.
52:00 Speaker 03 I am generally not a fan at all of the kind of music on the Vision Quest soundtrack. Like that is just not my bag, like Foreigner, Journey, Dio. Like I don't care for that stuff at all. The Color of Money soundtrack is interesting to me only insofar as it's something that has happened many times over the years, which is Robbie Robertson getting in Martin Scorsese's ear and being like, these songs. And he's done, he did it like 10 or 12 times.
52:28 Speaker 04 Departed, yeah.
52:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, Departed, Wall Street. Like, there's a lot of examples of him just being like, this is what's cool to me. And this is what we agree on. And it's often blues influenced or blues based, but not always. And this is probably the most pure blues soundtrack he's ever done.
52:46 Speaker 04 But it's kind of funny because it's like, definitely like classic rock guys who've got cool eighties haircuts and have like nine person bands and horn sections now.
52:55 Speaker 03 Totally.
52:56 Yasi Salek? These are like two sides of a coin, is what you've presented here. Because I'm like, okay, Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits is on this. It's like, both of them are more representative of eighties music that was popular than what we've been talking about.
53:13 Speaker 04 I personally, like, the only song I listen to Color of Money really, I like the way that you use it, kind of that Clapton song. But I really, obviously World of London. And then for Vision Quest, I only listen to Crazy for You. It's not like I'm banging Foreigner. But it's just kind of a B side to what we're talking about, you know? The A side is like, Second Love, Furs and New Order were so awesome, Prince. But then the other side is like. A lot of dudes listening to Forerunner.
53:43 Yasi Salek? That's really interesting.
53:44 Speaker 03 It's very similar movies, too. Both movies about young athletes, you know, coming under the guidance of complicated mentors. And there's a gal and they gotta figure out what, where that gal fits in in their complicated life of professional academic or athletic excellence.
53:59 Yasi Salek? Do you guys actually think these are good soundtracks?
54:03 Speaker 03 I think the music is used brilliantly in The Color Money, but I would never put the soundtrack on.
54:07 Speaker 04 Vision Quest. I thought it was an interesting conversation.
54:09 Yasi Salek? Totally worth, well, it's fun.
54:11 Speaker 04 And if I could have a song from the eighties, it might be crazy for you. Like, if I could have a song from an eighties soundtrack, it would be up there with.
54:17 Yasi Salek? I don't know, but you, when we talked about this the other night, I think you conflated two songs.
54:21 Speaker 04 Yes.
54:22 Yasi Salek? You thought of Into the Groove. Not Into the Groove.
54:24 Speaker 04 Um, Live to Tell.
54:25 Yasi Salek? Live to Tell, which is the Madonna song that actually I think did not end up appearing in that film.
54:31 Speaker 04 In At Close Range.
54:31 Yasi Salek? In At Close Range, but the entire music video is somehow.
54:34 Speaker 04 Sean Chen.
54:35 Yasi Salek? At Close Range themed.
54:36 Speaker 03 Are you reading both of these films?
54:38 Yasi Salek? Um, I just want to propose a third option.
54:42 Speaker 04 Sure.
54:43 Yasi Salek? Which is like, still a little cooler, but I do think falls into.
54:47 Speaker 04 Is it AC/DC's Maximum Overdrive soundtrack?
54:49 Yasi Salek? No, but it is, it is.
54:51 Speaker 03 Absolutely rocks.
54:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:52 Yasi Salek? Oh.
54:53 Speaker 04 It fucking rocks.
54:54 Speaker 03 I mean, the movie is incoherent and it was directed.
54:57 Speaker 04 Coke Fever Dream.
54:58 Speaker 03 By Stephen King, whilst deeply high on cocaine.
55:02 Speaker 04 Do you know what the plot of Maximum Overdrive is?
55:03 Yasi Salek? No.
55:04 Speaker 04 Machines become sentient.
55:06 Yasi Salek? Okay.
55:06 Speaker 04 Uh, because, because Earth is in the trail tale of a comet. And in a North Carolina truck stop, Emilio Estevez is like with six survivors, but trucks are like trying to run them over.
55:19 Speaker 03 The trucks are the killer trucks, that's the whole idea.
55:21 Speaker 04 A whole opening, I think it's to Hell's Bells, of people getting like run over by lawnmowers and stuff.
55:26 Yasi Salek? Do you own this on DVD, Blu-ray?
55:30 Speaker 03 I do, because I acquired every Stephen King adaptation once upon a time.
55:33 Yasi Salek? Got it.
55:34 Speaker 03 So I do, it's very bad.
55:36 Yasi Salek? But the soundtrack is amazing.
55:37 Speaker 03 It's probably the worst Stephen King movie.
55:39 Speaker 04 I disagree.
55:41 Speaker 03 Stephen King is not a film director.
55:42 Yasi Salek? What do you think is the worst one?
55:45 Speaker 04 Uh, not Maximum Overdrive. Maximum Overdrive is like delightful to me.
55:48 Yasi Salek? But the entire soundtrack is AC/DC like wall to wall.
55:51 Speaker 03 They wrote the soundtrack. They wrote it for the movie.
55:53 Speaker 04 Is the, is the.
55:54 Speaker 03 Who Made Who, which is an absolute heater. Where's the AC/DC episode?
55:59 Yasi Salek? You're welcome to come on anytime.
56:01 Speaker 03 You know, I'm not an expert, but I love them.
56:03 Speaker 04 Do you, are you Bon or Brian?
56:04 Speaker 03 I think they're both great. I don't, I really don't. I mean, Bon is very special.
56:07 Speaker 04 I used to be able, if I gargled milk, to be able to do, uh, Brian, Brian Johnson, like karaoke.
56:14 Speaker 03 Let's do it right now. Let's try it.
56:15 Speaker 04 I don't need milk.
56:17 Speaker 03 Can we get some milk in here for CR? No? Okay.
56:20 Speaker 04 Like I could do "Shook Me All Night Long" if I gargled milk.
56:23 Yasi Salek? I know this is gonna show that obviously I'm not a main best friend of yours and more of a newer addition, but have you always done impressions?
56:32 Speaker 04 No. It wasn't an impression. It was at karaoke if I wanted to do, that was like a thing I could do.
56:38 Yasi Salek? It's kind of an impression.
56:40 Speaker 04 Uh, I mean, it's a musical. It's like a tribute to him.
56:44 Speaker 03 You're more Brian than Bon?
56:46 Speaker 04 No, I like Bon more. It's, uh, "If You Want Boys," is my shit.
56:49 Speaker 03 It's one of the greatest songs of all time.
56:51 Yasi Salek? Okay. Or we're not including this in our Hall of Fame.
56:54 Speaker 03 No, no, I don't have so.
56:56 Yasi Salek? Worth mentioning.
56:57 Speaker 04 We're just talking about AC/DC.
56:58 Speaker 03 It is an interesting example of a single band writing entirely original music for a movie, just a movie.
57:05 Yasi Salek? That happened a bunch of times and I discounted them all, but they were, it happened, particularly in the eighties, it happened a lot more than it happened.
57:11 Speaker 04 You know what? To be fair, I think they just took all the songs from Maximum Overdrive and put it on the Who Made Who album, which so technically isn't really even the soundtrack.
57:19 Speaker 03 It's tough.
57:19 Speaker 04 It was just like music by AC/DC and then they put out another album with all the songs.
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57:57 Yasi Salek? Are you familiar with this film?
57:59 Speaker 04 Oh, I didn't. I thought you were referring to me and Sean. No, I don't know this movie.
58:03 Yasi Salek? Well, you are also, my dude bros. Sean, you?
58:07 Speaker 03 I don't know dudes.
58:08 Yasi Salek? Well, you I wouldn't expect you to know because famously you hate female filmmakers, but...
58:15 Speaker 03 This is easily my least favorite bit going around podcasting right now. It's just wildly inaccurate.
58:21 Yasi Salek? Where there's smoke, there's fire. No, I'm just kidding. Um, this is a Penelope Spheeris film. It's kind of an underseen Penelope Spheeris film.
58:30 Yasi Salek? Very weirdly, I owned the soundtrack on vinyl as like a child. I'd never seen the film, but I loved the soundtrack. It's 87 and it's clearly like post or around the time that Penelope Spheeris discovered hair metal on the Sunset Strip, leading to the most incredible decline of Western civilization too. It's a film that stars John Cryer and another guy who I can't remember in Flea, and they're punks. And they have to like flee some sort of situation on the East Coast and drive to LA and like hijinks in Zou and it's like in the desert. And yeah, it has like a cowboy-ish theme.
59:12 Yasi Salek? But it has like Wasp and Megadeth and Steve Vai and like, again, we're talking about like, there's a big swath of 80s music that we have not had represented. And like, this is kind of, but it also still has The Vandals and Jane's Addiction on here. So it's kind of the cooler version of what you guys are talking about, so.
59:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's Daniel Roebuck is the other star.
59:32 Yasi Salek? Oh, thank you.
59:32 Speaker 03 Who memorably played Jay Leno in The Late Shift.
59:35 Speaker 04 He's very memorable.
59:37 Speaker 03 Lee Vang is also in this movie?
59:38 Yasi Salek? Lee Vang is definitely in this movie. He's the villain.
59:40 Speaker 03 And I'm learning now that the cinematographer of this film was Robert Richardson.
59:44 Yasi Salek? Oh, wow.
59:45 Speaker 03 Three-time Academy Award winner, famously shot many Oliver Stone and Quentin Tarantino films.
59:49 Yasi Salek? It is a really...
59:50 Speaker 04 Shot JFK.
59:50 Yasi Salek? It's a beautiful film.
59:51 Speaker 04 Not by himself. Like, he didn't shoot JFK. He cinematographed.
59:55 Speaker 03 He murdered John.
59:56 Yasi Salek? They arrested Harvey Oswald, so.
59:59 Speaker 03 Is that what you think happened?
1:00:00 Yasi Salek? No, can I be honest? I don't think about it that much.
1:00:02 Speaker 03 I don't either.
1:00:03 Yasi Salek? It's like really low on the totem pole of like conspiracy theories.
1:00:07 Speaker 04 I know that you're like trying to make it be like people who care about that.
1:00:10 Yasi Salek? No, no, no, I'm not. I have plenty of like weird stupid shit that I care, as you know. This is just not a thing that's like crossed my mind. Yeah, because we're best friends. Against your will, you have to know they think that way. You know, it's just not something that.
1:00:23 Speaker 04 She talked about like hydration almost like over like from California to Illinois on a flight to Boston.
1:00:29 Yasi Salek? But see, now you're doing a thing, which is that he's not telling the other part is when he got back, he thanked me profusely because he has now incorporated into his life electrolytes. And he feels much better and more hydrated.
1:00:40 Speaker 03 It's really nice to see you guys blossom together. I'm really touched by it.
1:00:45 Yasi Salek? You must be even still, bro.
1:00:48 Speaker 03 Yeah, that was nice, too.
1:00:49 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:00:49 Speaker 04 Okay, so now we have a couple of like, these are harder rock or these are different kind of genre looks.
1:00:55 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:00:56 Speaker 04 So we have dudes.
1:00:58 Yasi Salek? Color of Money.
1:00:59 Speaker 04 Color of Money, Vision Quest. And you know what? I could also throw in here just because it segues nicely into one that's just a personal favorite of mine, but I don't think belongs in the Hall of Fame.
1:01:11 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:01:11 Speaker 04 Is River's Edge. Which has a lot of Slayer.
1:01:15 Yasi Salek? Very good.
1:01:16 Speaker 04 Some wipers and a Boogie Spear song.
1:01:19 Yasi Salek? Very good.
1:01:20 Speaker 03 Were you like the kids in Over the Edge?
1:01:24 Speaker 04 River's Edge?
1:01:25 Speaker 03 River's Edge, sorry.
1:01:26 Yasi Salek? Unhoused?
1:01:26 Speaker 03 Well, Over the Edge, too.
1:01:27 Speaker 04 I was not.
1:01:28 Yasi Salek? Were you even on the House Runaway?
1:01:30 Speaker 04 No, I mean.
1:01:31 Speaker 03 Actually, isn't Daniel Roebuck the murderer in River's Edge?
1:01:34 Speaker 04 Damn, Sean, it all comes full circle.
1:01:36 Speaker 03 I feel like he is.
1:01:36 Yasi Salek? It's really crazy that you're able to do that with your brain. I don't know. I just know Ione's guy is in that film.
1:01:41 Speaker 04 That's a great soundtrack, though.
1:01:42 Yasi Salek? That is great. There's a lot of, I mean, there are like other ones like.
1:01:45 Speaker 03 John Tolliver.
1:01:46 Yasi Salek? Less Than Zero has a great soundtrack.
1:01:48 Speaker 04 It has a crazy good soundtrack. I actually had that on a heavy consideration just off the strength of Bangles' Hazy Shade of Winners cover.
1:01:57 Speaker 03 It's pretty good.
1:01:57 Yasi Salek? I'm just. There's a lot of Danzig on there. Rick Rubin did the soundtrack. It's sick.
1:02:02 Speaker 03 Where do we stand on Ghostbusters?
1:02:05 Yasi Salek? It, listen, it was on my long list.
1:02:08 Speaker 03 Because.
1:02:10 Speaker 03 I can't name one another song besides Ghostbusters by Ray Parker Jr.
1:02:14 Speaker 04 But it's the most popular song of the 80s.
1:02:15 Speaker 03 But like my four year old knows that song.
1:02:18 Speaker 04 Does she?
1:02:18 Speaker 03 And has never seen Ghostbusters and doesn't know what a Ghostbuster is.
1:02:21 Speaker 04 Does she say who you're gonna call?
1:02:22 Speaker 03 She does. Um, and she thinks that's very funny to do a call and response with a song.
1:02:28 Speaker 04 Cleaning Up the Town by the Bus Boys? I think that's.
1:02:33 Speaker 03 Yes, yes. Yeah. That's the thing is when you hear, when you watch the movie.
1:02:37 Yasi Salek? Yeah, this is not eligible.
1:02:39 Speaker 03 It's not eligible.
1:02:40 Yasi Salek? Well, it's exactly what we were talking about where it's just the one song.
1:02:44 Speaker 04 But I'm telling you that there's Laura Branigan and.
1:02:46 Speaker 03 But what about Diane Warren? Elmer Bernstein's theme to the film though.
1:02:51 Yasi Salek? Right.
1:02:52 Speaker 03 Is very special.
1:02:54 Yasi Salek? Yep, falls underscore.
1:02:55 Speaker 03 It reminds me of being a young person and feeling hopeful about my, a lifetime full of watching movies about ghosts, which is something I have pursued professionally and feel good about. Um.
1:03:07 Speaker 04 From Ghostbuster to Ghostwatcher.
1:03:09 Speaker 03 That's right. Well, I'll be busting at some point. I'm just still accumulating knowledge. Once I've not, hey, I'll be ghost busting.
1:03:19 Speaker 03 Well, as, as Ray Parker Jr. Famously told us in the song, bustin' makes me feel good.
1:03:23 Speaker 04 It's good. It's a double entendre.
1:03:25 Yasi Salek? You're making it worse.
1:03:26 Speaker 03 Do you think he knew?
1:03:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, I think that they're like, knowing the people involved in that movie. I bet it was like, this is pretty funny. A 21 year old might get it. Although I don't, busting, like a nut.
1:03:37 Yasi Salek? Was that a, was that a saying?
1:03:39 Speaker 03 Busting a what?
1:03:41 Speaker 04 I don't know if that was like a saying back then. Bust a nut? Did you say that back in 84 or 85?
1:03:47 Speaker 03 I was two years old.
1:03:47 Yasi Salek? You're the oldest one here.
1:03:50 Speaker 04 I heard a lot of things. I heard a lot of crazy things.
1:03:53 Speaker 03 It sounds like a threat.
1:03:54 Speaker 04 No, but you know, like we watched Eddie Murphy's Raw a lot.
1:03:57 Yasi Salek? Okay, okay.
1:03:58 Speaker 03 Did you now?
1:03:58 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:03:59 Speaker 03 And what'd you learn?
1:04:00 Speaker 04 Words that you can't say anymore. You know?
1:04:03 Speaker 03 Sure did.
1:04:05 Yasi Salek? We've strayed so far from Ghostlight.
1:04:06 Speaker 03 This is podcasting.
1:04:08 Speaker 04 Do you think Beverly Hills Cop deserves a shout here?
1:04:12 Yasi Salek? Um, I believe it was on one of my longer lists, but I did not find it compelling enough. To include, what do you remember? Just don't look at your computer. What songs are on there?
1:04:25 Speaker 04 I remember some song playing when the cigarette truck chase happens.
1:04:30 Yasi Salek? Some song?
1:04:31 Speaker 04 And Axl F being a song that a guy who lived around the corner from me could play on his Casio. So we would all gather in his room and watch him do it.
1:04:38 Speaker 03 It's pretty sick.
1:04:39 Speaker 04 This is what you did before Instagram.
1:04:40 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:04:41 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:04:41 Yasi Salek? Don't look at me when I was there. Um, I have one that I'm making an automatic green because what do you call it? Like, just this is my podcast and.
1:04:49 Speaker 04 Executive privilege.
1:04:50 Yasi Salek? Executive privilege, which is Times Square, which you said, yes, I did that before. I'll do it again.
1:04:54 Speaker 04 Okay, so wait, but like you're now putting, we've got a Hall of Fame for 10 records and you're talking dudes, Times Square and what was the other one?
1:05:01 Yasi Salek? Dudes is still yellow. We can litigate that. Times Square, to me, is one of the greatest soundtracks of all time. It is, we got Suzie Quatro, we got The Pretenders, we got Roxy Music, we got Tubeway Army, Talking Heads, Joe Jackson, XTC, Ramones, Lou Reed, The Cure, Patti Smith Group. Come on, babe. And it's set in New York. It's 1980. It's like the turn of the time. It's about two girls that meet in like a juvie mental hospital and form a band. Tim Curry is a radio DJ. It's just, this is very, this was also like, the soundtrack was crafted with a lot of intention. Like, the associate producer of this film was also the associate producer, or he ran the label that put out Saturday Night Fever.
1:05:47 Yasi Salek? And so they were like, oh, make another Saturday Night Fever, but punkin' newer.
1:05:50 Speaker 04 So this is going green.
1:05:51 Yasi Salek? I think this should go green.
1:05:52 Speaker 03 I don't want to take Times Square away from you because I know it's a great passion point, but this is a 70s soundtrack.
1:05:57 Speaker 04 Bang.
1:05:58 Speaker 03 This is not an 80s soundtrack.
1:05:59 Speaker 04 Assassinated.
1:06:00 Speaker 03 I, most of these songs, if not all of them, were recorded in the 70s. They're definitional to the 70s.
1:06:09 Speaker 03 It's very clear that like the Gary Newman song, the Pretenders song, the Joe Jackson song, like, these are ecstasy songs.
1:06:17 Speaker 04 Honestly, you've been hoisted out by your own petard because you made.
1:06:20 Yasi Salek? Petard?
1:06:20 Speaker 04 Yeah, like you got.
1:06:21 Yasi Salek? I thought we don't say that word.
1:06:24 Speaker 04 No, not.
1:06:26 Yasi Salek? I'm sorry. I'll go now.
1:06:30 Speaker 04 It's a cheap nile. When we pod.
1:06:33 Speaker 03 Best friends.
1:06:33 Speaker 04 It's nothing but real, serious exchange of ideas.
1:06:37 Speaker 03 And when we do cross the line, it's in the spirit of friendship.
1:06:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:06:41 Speaker 03 Right? It's not in the spirit of humiliation.
1:06:43 Yasi Salek? That was, who got humiliated there besides me?
1:06:47 Speaker 03 You're doing great. I don't want, I love to have a pet project in any kind of activity like this.
1:06:54 Speaker 04 But you can't just be like, obviously, this goes in the Hall of Fame.
1:06:56 Yasi Salek? So you're saying because, because the songs are not.
1:06:59 Speaker 04 From another decade.
1:07:00 Yasi Salek? They're not fundamentally of the time.
1:07:02 Speaker 03 You were like Lou Reed, isn't that awesome? I'm like Lou Reed, what is, you know, he made music in the eighties.
1:07:06 Speaker 04 Yeah, but Roxy Music is a fucking glam rock band.
1:07:09 Speaker 03 You know, those are seventies acts that persisted through the eighties.
1:07:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, but same way that people were listening to Motown in eighty-three.
1:07:18 Speaker 03 And frankly, probably more people.
1:07:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, more people were probably listening to Foreigner and Dio, to be honest.
1:07:24 Speaker 03 You know, like, you know, New York Dolls and Patti Smith.
1:07:27 Speaker 04 But you're welcome to be like, it's bands playing, it's my pod, I'm doing this. But then I think me and him should each get one of our own.
1:07:33 Speaker 03 I don't even care, I don't even need one, I just want to point out the hypocrisy.
1:07:37 Yasi Salek? It's not hypocrisy, perhaps an oversight.
1:07:40 Speaker 04 If you do Times Square, he should be able to do Good Morning Vietnam, and I should be able to do Color of Money.
1:07:46 Yasi Salek? Well, no one said you couldn't do Color of Money, we just said those songs are not good.
1:07:51 Speaker 03 What was the really old act that I wanted to do?
1:07:53 Speaker 04 My dad, you heard her clapping.
1:07:55 Speaker 03 It's true, it's true.
1:07:58 Speaker 03 What was the, wasn't there like really like music from the fifties or sixties that I wanted to spend some time on the show? And you're like, we'll never do that, no thanks.
1:08:05 Yasi Salek? On Bandsway?
1:08:06 Speaker 03 You're kind of like the Bill Simmons of the music pod world, where you're like, we don't go before nineteen seventy.
1:08:11 Yasi Salek? Because nobody cares, there's like a small swath.
1:08:14 Speaker 04 The Beatles.
1:08:15 Yasi Salek? You always have told me to make podcasts that people will care about.
1:08:19 Speaker 04 If you did the Beatles, you would, you would, you would have to get new servers at Spotify. That's how many people would be listening.
1:08:25 Yasi Salek? Because of the amount of hate and anger comments that would be, you missed this fine detail of Don Lennon's upbringing.
1:08:33 Speaker 03 Sometimes that's part of the magic of podcasting.
1:08:35 Yasi Salek? Do you just not feel like enough has been said about the Beatles? Do you think I need to add, throw my hat in the ring?
1:08:40 Speaker 03 I'm still wildly consuming anything new that comes out about them. I've read, I've read many books, I've seen many documentaries, and I listen to the music all the time.
1:08:48 Speaker 04 Do you feel like since becoming friends with me, you like the Stones less?
1:08:51 Yasi Salek? Why are you a more of a Stones guy? It seems like you would be.
1:08:53 Speaker 03 The answer is no, well, first of all, we've been friends for a really long time, so the answer is definitely no.
1:08:57 Speaker 04 I've always had this opinion.
1:08:59 Speaker 04 And I feel like I've felt you slip away from me in Stones fandom as you've become more of a Beatles guy. We used to be brothers like Mick and Keith, you know? Standing back to back.
1:09:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:09:10 Speaker 04 Rocking.
1:09:11 Speaker 03 Sharing women and heroin.
1:09:12 Yasi Salek? You guys are kind of like Mick and Keith, like you know how like Mick like is like, oh Keith is so cool. I'm gonna sing songs about him. That's like, you're the Mick and he's the Keith.
1:09:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:09:23 Yasi Salek? That's so good.
1:09:24 Speaker 03 But who's holding the mic?
1:09:25 Yasi Salek? Kind of both of you.
1:09:26 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's true. Well, literally, yes.
1:09:28 Speaker 04 And now we're staring each other down to see who dies first.
1:09:32 Speaker 03 Who's really gonna get to take over?
1:09:34 Speaker 04 Cause you know that other guy is like.
1:09:35 Yasi Salek? Podcasting into elder abuse territory where people are like, we wrap it up, get off stage.
1:09:40 Speaker 03 People be paid $800 to see us play?
1:09:42 Speaker 04 But if Keith dies first, which he's not going to, Mick's gonna have to spend the last few years of his life talking about Keith. That's crazy.
1:09:49 Yasi Salek? I feel like you never know where you're gonna get here in the soundtrack episode of Bandcamp.
1:09:54 Speaker 03 Let's, let's do a proper accounting of where we stand with greens, yellows and deletions.
1:09:58 Yasi Salek? Probably miss some stuff. Um, sorry, cause I was trying to podcast and keep track of the same time.
1:10:03 Speaker 04 That's okay. I'm sure we can figure it out.
1:10:04 Yasi Salek? I know for green, we have Repo Man.
1:10:07 Speaker 04 One.
1:10:08 Yasi Salek? Purple Rain.
1:10:09 Speaker 04 Two.
1:10:09 Yasi Salek? Married to the Mob.
1:10:10 Speaker 04 Three.
1:10:10 Yasi Salek? And Valley Girl. I don't think we have any other greens.
1:10:12 Speaker 03 Those are good choices.
1:10:13 Yasi Salek? I think so. Yellow, we have many. Top Gun, Ferris Bueller, Pretty in Pink, Do the Right Thing, Wild Style, Dudes, The Color of Money, Vision Quest. Was there another one?
1:10:25 Speaker 03 That's 12. You're, you're Nixon Ghostbusters.
1:10:29 Yasi Salek? I'm Nixon Ghostbusters. Here's the thing, one that we haven't mentioned, and I just, I don't actually know if it's eligible by my own rules, cause I've already forgotten my own rules, to be honest, but Footloose was kind of a big soundtrack.
1:10:44 Speaker 04 Footloose wasn't really a big deal.
1:10:46 Yasi Salek? Footloose is a big deal. You heard that song.
1:10:47 Speaker 04 A little bit in the Top Gun zone.
1:10:49 Yasi Salek? Yeah, a little in the Top Gun.
1:10:50 Speaker 04 It's three songs. Um.
1:10:53 Yasi Salek? But like.
1:10:53 Speaker 04 And do you think a lot of people are like, God, Kenny Loggins, the sound of the eighties? I guess a lot more people probably than I think.
1:10:59 Yasi Salek? A lot of Kenny Loggins in the eighties.
1:11:01 Speaker 03 I, is it more than three songs? I mean, let's hear it for the boy. Also a huge song.
1:11:07 Speaker 04 Oh shit.
1:11:08 Yasi Salek? Holding out for a hero.
1:11:11 Speaker 03 That's a really
1:11:11 Speaker 04 Holding out for a hero like
1:11:13 Speaker 03 Bonnie Tyler, yeah.
1:11:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:11:15 Speaker 03 That's also Footloose.
1:11:15 Speaker 04 Footloose might be green, bro.
1:11:16 Speaker 03 That's what I'm saying. There's two other Kenny Loggins songs on here. There is a Sammy Hager song on here.
1:11:20 Yasi Salek? Yeah, who representing the
1:11:22 Speaker 04 The Vision Quest.
1:11:24 Yasi Salek? Yeah. The long-haired, heavy metal parking lot dude or whatever.
1:11:28 Speaker 03 I don't know that I've ever really
1:11:30 Speaker 04 I had it on like a very long list, but I was just like, this is like This is like At Close Range or Top Gun where it's one or two songs, but I guess it's not. I guess it's
1:11:39 Speaker 03 Also, Mellencamp's "Hurts So Good" is in the movie, but I think not on the soundtrack.
1:11:43 Yasi Salek? It's on the
1:11:44 Speaker 04 Oh shit.
1:11:45 Speaker 03 So that's pretty, pretty big.
1:11:47 Yasi Salek? These are like things that like I personally don't love or care about, but It's hard to make the argument that they're not
1:11:55 Speaker 04 You've emotionally divested ever since Times Square got mixed.
1:11:58 Yasi Salek? That's right. I had to cut off my feelings.
1:12:02 Speaker 03 I guess, would you want to spend A week researching and discussing this movie?
1:12:07 Speaker 04 You have to do all of these. No wonder.
1:12:09 Yasi Salek? You forgot already.
1:12:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, so that's why when I was like Vision Quest, you're like, please no.
1:12:12 Yasi Salek? Well,
1:12:15 Yasi Salek? I'd rather do dudes. I think it'd be a more interesting episode because I do have to think about it that way.
1:12:20 Speaker 03 But no one has seen that film.
1:12:23 Yasi Salek? Does it matter?
1:12:24 Speaker 04 Can they, can they see it?
1:12:25 Yasi Salek? This is not about films. This is, this is deep dives into soundtrack.
1:12:27 Speaker 04 Is dudes even available to watch?
1:12:29 Yasi Salek? Yeah, I watched it the other day.
1:12:30 Speaker 04 Like, because you have a cool LaserDisc copy or because it's available on stream?
1:12:33 Yasi Salek? It's on like Amazon Prime for $2.99 or whatever.
1:12:35 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:12:37 Speaker 03 I'd like to see it.
1:12:37 Yasi Salek? You should. It's, it's really fun. Also, the funnest fact about dudes is that there is a scene where What's the guy's name that you said?
1:12:45 Speaker 03 Daniel Roebuck?
1:12:46 Yasi Salek? Daniel Roebuck, John Cryer, and Flea are driving and it's like from the front of the car And they start singing "Hava Nagila"
1:12:54 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
1:12:55 Yasi Salek? And
1:12:55 Speaker 04 Is that on the soundtrack?
1:12:56 Yasi Salek? No, but they get increasingly into it and start headbanging and that is what Penelope Sphyrus used as the blueprint for Wayne's World.
1:13:04 Speaker 04 Oh.
1:13:05 Yasi Salek? For the Bohemian Rhapsody and you can fully see the one to one.
1:13:09 Speaker 04 So you, why don't you take dudes? Cause I think you really want to do a Band's Play episode about it.
1:13:13 Speaker 03 So you're passing on Footloose and Top Gun.
1:13:15 Yasi Salek? No.
1:13:16 Speaker 03 And you're doing dudes.
1:13:17 Yasi Salek? No. I think, I think we should probably pick one from Footloose or Top Gun.
1:13:22 Speaker 03 Okay. Can I throw another one out? You're not gonna do it. But it's notable because it is another thing that I was looking for per our conversation about Purple Rain.
1:13:31 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:13:31 Speaker 03 UHF?
1:13:32 Yasi Salek? Oh, yeah.
1:13:34 Speaker 03 The Weird Al Yankovic comedy.
1:13:35 Speaker 04 Is that a Weird Al soundtrack?
1:13:36 Yasi Salek? It's absolutely on my list, but yeah, it's all Weird Al songs of, it's all parodies
1:13:41 Speaker 03 Of popular songs.
1:13:42 Yasi Salek? Of popular 80s songs. It was on my list, babe.
1:13:44 Speaker 03 I gotta say, Weird Al is kind of a great band spleen episode.
1:13:48 Yasi Salek? I don't know, I think so too, actually.
1:13:49 Speaker 04 It would be really funny.
1:13:50 Yasi Salek? Yeah, I think so too.
1:13:51 Speaker 04 I won't be on it.
1:13:52 Speaker 03 Cause there's a lot to do there that would be fun. I wouldn't.
1:13:54 Yasi Salek? You guys love to tell me to do an episode and then be like, I'm not an expert. Go over there.
1:13:59 Speaker 03 Do we do that?
1:13:59 Yasi Salek? A little bit.
1:14:00 Speaker 03 Um.
1:14:01 Yasi Salek? Twice this episode.
1:14:02 Speaker 03 He's such an interesting cat, though.
1:14:03 Yasi Salek? I think so. I think it'd be a great story.
1:14:05 Speaker 04 This now, it kind of now we get into what would be really funny for Yasi to have to do.
1:14:10 Yasi Salek? I just happened upon one line in the Wikipedia on UHF and it's just, the first of these segments is called Gandhi 2, which reimagines Mahatma Gandhi as the hero of a black exploitation style sequel to the film Gandhi, spoofing both the theme and promos for the film.
1:14:25 Speaker 04 You should do this.
1:14:26 Speaker 03 Weird Al's pretty good, I gotta say. He's pretty funny. So the songs that are parodied on the soundtrack include Money for Nothing by Dire Straits, Wild Thing by Tone Loc, She Drives Me Crazy by Fine Young Cannibals, Stand by R E M and Harry Chapin's
1:14:38 Speaker 04 What's the Wild Thing parody?
1:14:40 Speaker 03 It's called Ile Thing. I L E. This one also features his polka medley of Stone songs, The Hot Rocks Polka.
1:14:48 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:14:49 Speaker 03 Cause he always does a polka song on every album.
1:14:51 Yasi Salek? Listen, you can't, you can't take it away. But, okay, this also begs the question, what about Spinal Tap? I know that, is that a musical and original songs? Cause those are good songs.
1:14:59 Speaker 04 Those songs are all Spinal Tap songs. Personally, I think, I think UHF is funnier and, and less covered territory.
1:15:05 Yasi Salek? Yeah, but like, but you can't talk about it, cause all you're gonna say is like.
1:15:09 Speaker 04 I don't know, sometimes you need to have like a light week, you know?
1:15:13 Yasi Salek? I would love a light week.
1:15:14 Speaker 04 We did Nice Guys, all we did was read each other lines from the movie and cry with laughter. It was the entire pod, hour and a half.
1:15:21 Yasi Salek? Once again, I must remind everybody that I have created the worst podcast in the world for myself and everyone else is like, I showed up and I laughed about the Nice Guy and I'm like, oh, I'm on page 160.
1:15:31 Speaker 03 Don't, don't get it twisted. I do way too much work for my show.
1:15:34 Speaker 04 Than you having to be incredibly serious about Weird Al Yankovic. I'd be like, born, you know, like.
1:15:42 Yasi Salek? I'm not, I'm not opposed.
1:15:44 Speaker 04 Pretty yellow.
1:15:45 Yasi Salek? Okay.
1:15:45 Speaker 04 We have to pick one of Footloose or Top Gun.
1:15:48 Yasi Salek? Um, yeah.
1:15:50 Speaker 04 Arena pop.
1:15:51 Yasi Salek? Completely off of nothing, except just like intuition. I'm drawn more towards Top Gun, but how do you guys feel?
1:15:59 Speaker 04 I think I'm drawn more towards Footloose.
1:16:02 Speaker 03 I think there's more songs on Footloose that I just enjoy.
1:16:04 Yasi Salek? Yes.
1:16:04 Speaker 03 But that's not really a good enough opinion to sway you in either direction, I don't think.
1:16:09 Speaker 04 I, I think that we have to solve the John Hughes problem pretty soon.
1:16:13 Yasi Salek? We need to go back to solving.
1:16:15 Speaker 03 I do think you gotta find a way to address Kenny Loggins in some way.
1:16:18 Yasi Salek? Right, like we can't leave Kenny Loggins on the table.
1:16:20 Speaker 03 Cause you've got Caddyshack on the table here, too. I mean, Kenny Loggins is the voice of the 1980s movie soundtrack.
1:16:25 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:16:26 Speaker 03 He probably has more hits off of soundtracks than any other artist.
1:16:29 Yasi Salek? You're right.
1:16:29 Speaker 03 So he would be represented on Top Gun, he'd be represented on Footloose.
1:16:33 Yasi Salek? Can I just throw one out that we're not gonna put in, but it's just cause it's like pertinent to your guys' interests and a film I've never seen?
1:16:40 Speaker 03 Of course.
1:16:40 Yasi Salek? The Return of the Living Dead.
1:16:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:16:43 Yasi Salek? Incredible soundtrack.
1:16:44 Speaker 03 You seen this one? You know this one?
1:16:45 Speaker 04 I don't know the soundtrack.
1:16:46 Speaker 03 Um.
1:16:47 Yasi Salek? The Cramps, Forty Five Grave, T S O L, The Flesh Eaters, it's so cool.
1:16:51 Speaker 04 This isn't Romero, is it?
1:16:53 Speaker 03 Uh, no, it's Dan Bannon.
1:16:56 Yasi Salek? No shit.
1:16:56 Speaker 03 Daniel Bannon, the guy who created the alien character. Um, and it's one of the only movies he directed. Um, and it's a really fun reimagining of the zombie world, way more comic. And I think Linnae Quigley, like famous scream queen,
1:17:13 Speaker 03 plays a punk rocker in it. She has like a mohawk and then she becomes a zombie. Anyway, um, I think she also later did a punk rock horror workout video.
1:17:23 Yasi Salek? Wow.
1:17:23 Speaker 03 Yeah. We should look into that.
1:17:25 Yasi Salek? I'm very interested in. All right, Chris, I'm listening.
1:17:31 Speaker 04 Which one about John Hughes?
1:17:32 Yasi Salek? Yeah, let's talk about, it's really funny that they both have the same Smith song.
1:17:38 Speaker 04 Do you think, I think we should, I honestly do think Breakfast Club is closer to the one song outshines everything soundtrack.
1:17:46 Yasi Salek? But, so neither one of us said Breakfast Club, though.
1:17:48 Speaker 04 I think it was mentioned.
1:17:50 Yasi Salek? Right.
1:17:50 Speaker 03 I brought it up.
1:17:51 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:17:52 Speaker 03 And I, to me, it has the most memorable image of shot to song.
1:17:59 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:17:59 Speaker 03 In the history of John Hughes movies with the fist going up.
1:18:03 Yasi Salek? Totally. I do feel like the rest of it, it's kind of weak.
1:18:07 Speaker 04 I think probably it's between Pretty in Pink and Ferris Bueller. And it sounds like you want to do Pretty in Pink. Ferris Bueller, it's like, what do you really say about, oh, yeah.
1:18:16 Yasi Salek? That's a good song.
1:18:18 Speaker 03 Is that English beat?
1:18:20 Speaker 04 That's yellow.
1:18:20 Speaker 03 Oh, yellow. What's the English? Oh, Mirror in the Bathroom. Ah.
1:18:23 Speaker 04 Good song.
1:18:24 Speaker 03 Fucking banger.
1:18:25 Yasi Salek? Also on one of my other favorite soundtracks, 90s.
1:18:28 Speaker 04 Gross Point?
1:18:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
1:18:31 Speaker 04 Will you do the 90s next?
1:18:32 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:18:32 Speaker 04 Nice.
1:18:33 Yasi Salek? This one is hard. I mean, it's hard because that's why I said it's the band's playing Hall of Fame. It's obviously, if we were doing like a regular Hall of Fame, which honestly would be kind of boring because there's like a million Rolling Stone lists that are like that, that already tell you what the best ones are. These ones are gonna have the best stories. And that's what I, that's kind of what I need, you know? I need the meat to be there of the story.
1:18:56 Speaker 03 Batman?
1:18:57 Yasi Salek? I thought about Batman because of that song.
1:19:00 Speaker 04 You sure really need two Prince albums.
1:19:02 Yasi Salek? Totally. And also, again, the rest of the Batman soundtrack,
1:19:07 Yasi Salek? it's not like when you get to Batman, is it forever? Is that when the soundtrack gets really fucking popping?
1:19:11 Speaker 03 That's Kiss from a Rose and Hold Me. Should Only Kiss Me, Kill Me. Yeah.
1:19:16 Speaker 04 Kiss from a Rose?
1:19:17 Yasi Salek? One of the biggest songs, one of the biggest songs in a film of all time wasn't even nominated.
1:19:23 Speaker 03 Can I tell you something? I was watching this new movie, Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice. And Seal's crazy, isn't it? And crazy hits in a scene in a nightclub. And I was like, holy fuck, Seal.
1:19:40 Speaker 03 Really, really, really effective.
1:19:41 Yasi Salek? What? It's a good song.
1:19:41 Speaker 04 It is.
1:19:43 Speaker 03 You don't like Seal because?
1:19:45 Speaker 04 I just never really liked Seal. Seal took over MTV really hard. He'd, Kiss from a Rose was on nonstop. I'm trying to spend 11 hours watching this channel. You can't play the same video over and over again if I don't like the song.
1:19:58 Yasi Salek? Writing a letter.
1:19:59 Speaker 04 Dear Adam Green.
1:20:01 Yasi Salek? So you don't want to come with me on May 7th to Yarmouth Resort and Casino to see Seal?
1:20:05 Speaker 04 No.
1:20:05 Yasi Salek? Best friend night?
1:20:06 Speaker 04 Sorry.
1:20:07 Speaker 03 Yarmouth?
1:20:08 Yasi Salek? Never been to the Yarmouth.
1:20:09 Speaker 03 Where is that?
1:20:09 Yasi Salek? It's in the desert.
1:20:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:20:11 Yasi Salek? Like, if you want to catch the gin blossoms and stuff, yeah. Think about it. Put it in yellow.
1:20:16 Speaker 03 Back to the Future?
1:20:18 Yasi Salek? What's on there?
1:20:19 Speaker 04 1950s music.
1:20:20 Speaker 03 Power of Love?
1:20:21 Yasi Salek? What else? No, off the top of your head.
1:20:24 Speaker 03 I mean Johnny B. Goode.
1:20:25 Speaker 04 Yeah. Um, Earth Angel.
1:20:27 Yasi Salek? Does it fall under some of the?
1:20:29 Speaker 03 Uh, Heaven is One Step Away by Eric Clapton.
1:20:33 Yasi Salek? Okay, not a song I put on that often.
1:20:34 Speaker 03 Time Bomb Town by Lindsey Buckingham, which is apparently a song. Uh, Back in Time, also by Huey Lewis and the News. Where, can we talk about Huey for a second?
1:20:44 Yasi Salek? Sure, yeah.
1:20:46 Speaker 03 Growing up,
1:20:46 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:20:47 Speaker 03 foreign sports were, were in my dad's truck heavy.
1:20:52 Yasi Salek? Of course.
1:20:52 Speaker 03 Heavy. And kind of in that same zone as Clapton and Don Henley and like, this is white guys who grew up in the 60s and 70s, like, kind of keeping up with new music into their late 30s.
1:21:04 Speaker 04 Is your dad buying new Billy Joel records at this time period?
1:21:07 Speaker 03 I think, I think he stopped. We definitely had a copy of River of Dreams in the house, right?
1:21:12 Yasi Salek? It's a good song.
1:21:15 Speaker 03 But I, and Stormfront for sure.
1:21:17 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
1:21:18 Speaker 03 So he was, and that was, that's the last Billy record, right? But Huey Lewis and the News, that was like eight or seven or eight years earlier. Now, it's become much parody because of Patrick Bateman, right? Patrick Bateman's really into Huey and Phil Collins and that kind of like the sheen of Reagan era.
1:21:32 Yasi Salek? Are we gonna get, are we gonna get a weird like yacht rock-esque revival of that strand of music? Is that what's next?
1:21:40 Speaker 04 I think it's actually happened.
1:21:41 Speaker 03 I'm kind of, I'm kind of circling that at the moment. I was listening to Huey.
1:21:46 Yasi Salek? I'm in Genesis fucks, man. There's like some incredible tracks.
1:21:49 Speaker 04 80s Genesis, not prog.
1:21:50 Speaker 03 You mean the pop, the pop stuff? Yeah, those are some great songs.
1:21:53 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:21:54 Speaker 03 Huey is much simpler than that stuff.
1:21:56 Yasi Salek? I have a weird like,
1:21:57 Speaker 03 But the songs are really catchy.
1:21:58 Yasi Salek? PTSD around, I got a new, whatever.
1:22:02 Speaker 04 I got a new drug.
1:22:03 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:22:04 Speaker 03 I want a new drug.
1:22:04 Yasi Salek? I want a new drug. I don't know why. There's something about it to like, send the chill down my spine.
1:22:09 Speaker 03 There, there is something a little douchey about it, but it is also kind of appealing. You know, Robert Palmer also falls into this category. Like, how did Robert Palmer get as famous as he is with those music videos?
1:22:19 Speaker 04 Because of the chicks and the love.
1:22:21 Speaker 03 No, but he was big in the 70s. People don't realize. Yeah, and he was, he was doing like fucking reggae covers like white guy style in 1975.
1:22:30 Yasi Salek? A lot of Robert Palmer songs and 80s soundtracks. Also, he's like neck and neck with Boss Skaggs and fucking Rick Springfield's over here.
1:22:36 Speaker 04 Okay, read me the, read me the Greens again. Well, you didn't share the docs, so I can't see it.
1:22:42 Yasi Salek? I did share it.
1:22:43 Speaker 03 You're looking at the end of Glenn Garig and Ross right now.
1:22:44 Speaker 04 No, I'm fine. I'm just trying to, I'm trying.
1:22:46 Speaker 03 Show me the new leads.
1:22:47 Speaker 04 Here it is.
1:22:48 Yasi Salek? You're shirt. You're both shirt.
1:22:50 Speaker 04 My email didn't update. Reaper Man, Purple Rain, My Art and the Mob, Valley Girl, Footloose, Dudes.
1:22:55 Yasi Salek? Did you say we have to remove dudes? I can't remember.
1:22:57 Speaker 04 No, I said you have to remove Times Square.
1:22:58 Yasi Salek? Okay, and then we're moving Pretty in Pink up there.
1:23:01 Speaker 04 Okay, and then you...
1:23:03 Yasi Salek? I kind of feel like we do...
1:23:04 Speaker 04 Have to pick one of Do the Right Thing or...
1:23:06 Yasi Salek? Or Wild Style.
1:23:07 Speaker 04 Wild Style.
1:23:08 Speaker 03 Is your favorite rap soundtrack of all time the Men in Black soundtrack?
1:23:16 Yasi Salek? Why would you say that?
1:23:17 Speaker 04 I bet it's Judgment Day.
1:23:18 Yasi Salek? It's obviously Judgment. But there's, I mean, I like Juice.
1:23:24 Speaker 03 It's my favorite, yeah.
1:23:25 Yasi Salek? The drinking South Central, don't drink your OJ in the hood when you're in South Central. That's a very complicated.
1:23:31 Speaker 04 Know the ledge by Rakim is one of the great rap performances ever.
1:23:34 Yasi Salek? There's a lot of good raps.
1:23:35 Speaker 04 Do you got one more slot? Which way you gonna go? UHF, you gonna go Ferris Bueller?
1:23:39 Yasi Salek? I just don't know if UHF is like a thing that can be talked about.
1:23:43 Speaker 04 Do you want to put Say Anything on there?
1:23:45 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:23:46 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:23:48 Yasi Salek? Since you guys made me remove Times Square.
1:23:51 Speaker 04 That's, well, that's a real, that's a real power play by you.
1:23:55 Yasi Salek? Oh, you know what?
1:23:56 Speaker 04 Put up something that like no one knows about, like dudes or Times Square.
1:24:00 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:24:00 Speaker 04 And then we made you remove it, and now you're like, so for that, I get to have Say Anything. So it's almost like you asked for something really extreme to get what you wanted.
1:24:08 Yasi Salek? I wonder what would be, I'm, I'm listening, I promise.
1:24:13 Yasi Salek? From your terrible characterization of me.
1:24:16 Speaker 03 Can I throw one other idea out there?
1:24:18 Yasi Salek? What about Less Than Zero?
1:24:19 Speaker 04 I said Less Than Zero.
1:24:20 Yasi Salek? I also said Less Than Zero. And that, that is a, sorry, go ahead, Sean.
1:24:24 Speaker 03 I have, I have an idea.
1:24:25 Yasi Salek? Okay.
1:24:26 Speaker 03 That would, it could potentially be helpful.
1:24:27 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:24:28 Speaker 03 But also kind of breaks the rule.
1:24:29 Yasi Salek? Okay.
1:24:32 Speaker 03 What about Risky Business?
1:24:33 Speaker 04 Oh, fuck yeah.
1:24:34 Speaker 03 Because Risky Business, obviously the most memorable musical moment is old time rock and roll. In the dance, in his undies.
1:24:43 Speaker 04 And that song is from?
1:24:44 Speaker 03 That's from the 70s, I'm pretty sure, right? Yeah, 79. It's not that old when the movie comes out, which is 84.
1:24:51 Speaker 04 But...
1:24:53 Speaker 03 You've also got some other blues songs. You've got Muddy Waters and Jeff Prince, uh, Jeff Beck, rather. There's a...
1:24:59 Yasi Salek? Hungry Heart, isn't it?
1:25:00 Speaker 03 But Hungry Heart and Swamp by Talking Heads.
1:25:04 Yasi Salek? And In the Air Tonight.
1:25:05 Speaker 03 In the Air Tonight are all in the movie. And then you've got Tangerine Dream doing the soundtrack.
1:25:10 Speaker 04 Yep.
1:25:12 Speaker 03 And then, now, they're doing a score.
1:25:14 Speaker 04 Love on a Real Train is pretty high up there in terms of 80s music moments.
1:25:18 Speaker 03 And you can kind of talk about the Tangerine Dream moment, even though they're a composer, but they sit pretty comfortably alongside pop music in this movie. Just an idea.
1:25:28 Speaker 04 I think it's a really good idea. I do, I mean, I have a voice, you know what I mean? I'm just throwing it out there.
1:25:34 Speaker 03 It's Phil Collins, Journey, Prince, uh, Bob Seger, Talking Heads, Bruce Springsteen.
1:25:42 Speaker 04 Tangerine Dream.
1:25:42 Speaker 03 Tangerine Dream. That's pretty 80s.
1:25:46 Yasi Salek? There's not a Talking Heads actual song on the soundtrack.
1:25:50 Speaker 03 It's not, it's in the movie.
1:25:52 Yasi Salek? Doesn't count. It's, what I'm seeing here is Bob Seger, Muddy Waters, Jeff Beck, Prince, Journey, and Phil Collins. And it's not giving, babe. And then half of it is Tangerine Dream, which is score. Not gonna be fun to talk about. I hear what you're saying.
1:26:05 Speaker 04 It's score, but it's also like instrumental music from an instrumental group? So it wasn't like they wrote it to be back, you know, it's like they chose this music to soundtrack these moments.
1:26:17 Yasi Salek? So it already existed. We Know the Killer Pimp was one of their existing songs.
1:26:21 Speaker 04 I don't think so, maybe.
1:26:24 Yasi Salek? No future parentheses, get off the babysitter. That was an existing tandem dream track.
1:26:29 Speaker 03 I wrote that song, actually. They covered it.
1:26:30 Speaker 04 That was about me, yeah.
1:26:33 Yasi Salek? Listen, I love and accept your contribution. It's just this one is not giving for me.
1:26:38 Speaker 04 So now you have Less Than Zero is the ten.
1:26:40 Yasi Salek? I think Less Than Zero would just be so interesting to talk about because of the reasons said before, in which it's showing, like, this is almost like proto-Judgment Night, where it's like putting some rap elements next to some hard rock elements. They're not in the same song, but it's kind of interesting that they're coexisting on the soundtrack. Like, having Aerosmith and LL Cool J and Slayer and Public Enemy and Joan Jett, it's kind of fucking cool.
1:27:09 Speaker 03 What about The Last Dragon? Now, you might think to yourself, what's The Last Dragon?
1:27:13 Yasi Salek? That's exactly what I thought.
1:27:15 Speaker 03 Produced by Barry Gordy, founder of Motown. Soul and R&B film about martial arts film. Blaxploitation, kind of 10 years later movie.
1:27:27 Yasi Salek? Not the one about.
1:27:28 Speaker 03 Cult classic.
1:27:30 Speaker 03 Extremely fun movie.
1:27:33 Speaker 04 It's got "Rhythm of the Night" in it.
1:27:34 Speaker 03 And it's "Rhythm of the Night" is the lead single. And this is part of the kickoff for DeBarge, for Motown. "Rhythm of the Night" famously written by Diane Warren. Also features.
1:27:45 Yasi Salek? Multi-time loser of Oscars.
1:27:47 Speaker 03 But multi-time winner of Smashola Hits.
1:27:51 Speaker 03 And I think this might be her first big soundtrack song. Of course, she went on to write those Aerosmith songs.
1:27:58 Speaker 03 And "Seventh Heaven" by Vanity is also on this soundtrack. It's a snapshot of 1980s Motown, which is a little bit of an underexplored era. There's like a Stevie Wonder song on here. I'm just giving you ideas.
1:28:11 Yasi Salek? I like "El De Barge." You're so right to bring this in, and it is showcasing a space in music of the 80s. I just don't know if I'm a good person to do an episode about it.
1:28:24 Speaker 04 Okay, that's 10. I'm not going anywhere. I'm just telling you, you have your 10.
1:28:27 Yasi Salek? You included "Last Dragon"?
1:28:30 Speaker 04 No, I include "Say Anything," which still wasn't in.
1:28:32 Speaker 03 Have you seen "The Last Dragon"?
1:28:33 Yasi Salek? What? Okay, I have, no.
1:28:35 Speaker 03 Show enough? You haven't seen "The Last What"?
1:28:37 Speaker 04 I don't think so, yeah.
1:28:39 Speaker 03 The Shogun of Harlem?
1:28:40 Speaker 04 I just don't remember it if I saw it.
1:28:42 Speaker 03 Chaz Palminteri plays hood number two in this film.
1:28:45 Yasi Salek? Love him.
1:28:47 Speaker 03 You do. He's kinda, is he your type, Chaz?
1:28:49 Yasi Salek? No, but I love the work he's done in film and television. Rotten film's also not my type, to be honest. Too pretty.
1:28:57 Speaker 03 Too pretty?
1:28:59 Yasi Salek? You know, some people, it's just like, very beautiful men.
1:29:01 Speaker 03 How would you describe your type?
1:29:04 Speaker 04 For real, though?
1:29:07 Yasi Salek? Like, just completely, physically speaking?
1:29:09 Speaker 04 Sure.
1:29:10 Speaker 03 Whatever you like.
1:29:11 Yasi Salek? As I've shared with my best friend, Chris Ryan, but not with you yet, I did consult with a psychic, who did tell me that a relationship is coming, and it is in the form of an older gentleman with a lot of wisdom, who is rotund, and they were sorry to say it, in quotes.
1:29:30 Speaker 03 Why were they sorry to say it?
1:29:32 Speaker 04 Ask why they're saying "they."
1:29:34 Yasi Salek? Oh, yeah, they're, it's, it's a guy who channels your, like, angels and your, your guides. And they were sorry to say, they said, "We're sorry to say this," does not have a full head of hair.
1:29:43 Speaker 04 It's incredible, you get so much information from just hanging out with her, like, once. You're just like, I know so much about the human body and the spirit world.
1:29:52 Yasi Salek? Yeah. Anyways, so that's...
1:29:56 Speaker 03 You're very special.
1:29:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:29:57 Yasi Salek? You guys, I wanna throw out one other one that is kind of cool.
1:30:03 Yasi Salek? Maybe a little more seen than dudes in Times Square, maybe not. Stars Madonna. Who's that girl?
1:30:13 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm. What's, what are some other songs from that film?
1:30:16 Yasi Salek? Has a Skriti Politi song called "Best Thing," it has, yeah, it's actually not that strong, just wanted to mention it.
1:30:21 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:30:21 Speaker 04 You were also probably hoping to, like, double up Madonna research, right?
1:30:25 Yasi Salek? So true, I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to research anyways. Okay, well, I guess we have our 10. Should I just tell you guys some quick honorable mentions that, just because I discovered them and now they're on my Letterboxd to-watch list, because they sound so cool?
1:30:39 Speaker 04 Did you know Yasi knows somebody who made a Letterboxd account for the movies mentioned in The Epstein Files?
1:30:45 Yasi Salek? It's incredible. You guys should really check it out. And basically, he put... Ever like just copies and paste the email that mentions the film as a review of that film.
1:30:58 Speaker 03 That's that's very amusing, um, but also one of the darkest things I've ever heard.
1:31:04 Yasi Salek? Everyone.
1:31:04 Speaker 03 But also kind of an appropriate use of social media, I would say.
1:31:06 Speaker 04 Yeah, I think it would be weirder if you did like a real physical space Epstein Film Festival. Where you're like.
1:31:13 Speaker 03 Right, but you are doing that, you said. Okay, that would be strange.
1:31:17 Speaker 04 Do you think it would be weird? Cause I was thinking about.
1:31:19 Speaker 03 I'm not interested in participating, if that's what you're asking.
1:31:22 Speaker 04 It was like my life's work. If I was like, I'm taking everything, all the equity I have and I'm moving forward and I'm gonna have the Epstein Film Festival and I can't do it without you.
1:31:30 Speaker 03 I would say that's the day you lose all your best friends.
1:31:32 Yasi Salek? Do you wanna hear about a range films we used to make in this country?
1:31:35 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:31:35 Yasi Salek? These are two that just have incredible soundtracks that you can actually watch this one on YouTube I started last night. It's called Desperate Teenage Love Dolls.
1:31:42 Speaker 03 Hmm.
1:31:43 Yasi Salek? It's 50 minutes long. It's shot on Super 8 by a guy called David Markey and it's about a rock man of teenage runaways. Bunny Kitty and Patch, who formed the hottest all-girl band of all time. Um, but their meteoric rise to the top does not come without a price, thanks to a sleazy manager named Johnny Tremaine.
1:32:03 Speaker 04 Oh.
1:32:03 Yasi Salek? Who is played by Steve McDonald from Red Cross.
1:32:06 Speaker 04 Hmm.
1:32:07 Yasi Salek? Um.
1:32:07 Speaker 04 This is kinda runaway-y?
1:32:08 Yasi Salek? I was gonna say, I think it's like a thinly veiled runaways thing that came out like three years after the Runaways broke up or whatever. Um, it's like borderline, I mean, it's, it's just so visually cool because of the time period and, but it's like, it's horrible, obviously, but it has a really good soundtrack. Cause it's all like old punk songs. And then there's a, there's a, this just feels like something you guys would actually like. Reform Schoolgirls? Do you know about this?
1:32:34 Speaker 04 I mean, not a movie, but I.
1:32:36 Speaker 03 Just in, just in general.
1:32:37 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:32:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's a kind of a category.
1:32:40 Yasi Salek? This is a prison comedy film directed and written by Tom DeSimone, who had apparently directed two other women in prison films. I didn't know that was a whole genre.
1:32:50 Speaker 03 Oh, sure.
1:32:50 Yasi Salek? Prison Girls and Concrete Jungle. And then he made this, which is a spoof of women in prison films. And Wendy O. Williams, isn't it?
1:32:57 Speaker 03 It's kinda how Jonathan Demme got his start.
1:32:58 Speaker 04 Hmm.
1:33:00 Speaker 03 Caged Heat, movies like that.
1:33:02 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:33:02 Speaker 03 You know about those movies?
1:33:03 Speaker 04 Sounds a little bit like my, uh, my girl Rachel Kushner's Mars Room.
1:33:07 Yasi Salek? Great book.
1:33:10 Speaker 03 There's another one that we haven't mentioned that you wouldn't do here because you despise jazz. But there's a very famous soundtrack.
1:33:16 Speaker 04 Bird?
1:33:16 Speaker 03 For, well, there's Bird, but I was thinking of Round Midnight.
1:33:19 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:33:19 Speaker 03 Which is a really interesting movie by Bertrand Tavernier, French filmmaker about a jazz musician.
1:33:25 Speaker 04 I know about it.
1:33:27 Speaker 03 It stars Dexter Gordon, the jazz musician, and famously nominated for Best Actor for his performance in this movie. He was not an actor.
1:33:34 Speaker 04 No.
1:33:36 Speaker 03 And the score is incredible, and it's all, is it, oh, Herbie Hancock.
1:33:41 Yasi Salek? I thought you were gonna say The Jazz Singer with Neil Diamond.
1:33:45 Speaker 03 No, no. I actually haven't seen that.
1:33:48 Yasi Salek? Neither.
1:33:49 Speaker 03 The remake of the.
1:33:50 Speaker 04 I never saw that.
1:33:50 Speaker 03 Al Jolson.
1:33:51 Speaker 04 I don't think I ever actually watched Al Jolson's Jazz Singer.
1:33:54 Speaker 03 I've seen many clips.
1:33:56 Yasi Salek? Did we mention Weird Science?
1:33:57 Speaker 03 Weird Science, I did mention when we were talking, John Hughes.
1:33:59 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:34:00 Speaker 03 I do think that Oingo Boingo song, I'll tell you why it's in my head all the time. It's because I was really into the Weird Science TV show. Did you ever watch that show on the USA Network? Do you know about that? Starring Lee Turgison.
1:34:12 Speaker 04 I was gonna ask.
1:34:13 Speaker 03 And Vanessa Angel.
1:34:14 Yasi Salek? It was post, it was post the film, obviously.
1:34:15 Speaker 04 Because there's a Ferris Bueller TV show as well. The last thing that maybe is like closer to late 80s.
1:34:20 Speaker 03 That was like on NBC, if I recall. It was like a main, like a sitcom.
1:34:23 Speaker 04 And then Parker Lewis Can't Lose came and took its fucking lunch money.
1:34:25 Speaker 03 It did.
1:34:26 Yasi Salek? Great.
1:34:26 Speaker 03 Wonderful show.
1:34:27 Yasi Salek? Oh, we didn't also mention the other Alex Cox, Straight to Hell, that's a great soundtrack.
1:34:31 Speaker 04 Yeah, a little bit more themed. It's like Hoagies and Joe Strummer making like, kind of spaghetti western music.
1:34:38 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:34:39 Speaker 04 If we were gonna do a TV show, the collected songs of Miami Vice first two seasons would probably be one of the quintessential 80s soundtracks.
1:34:47 Yasi Salek? It's funny, this is the second time you brought up Miami Vice in our, in our last week of hanging out together.
1:34:52 Speaker 03 The third time, and he's brought it up in front of me.
1:34:54 Yasi Salek? You watch it a lot.
1:34:56 Speaker 04 I guess I should just go shut the fuck up, man.
1:34:58 Speaker 03 Well, there's a moment where.
1:34:59 Yasi Salek? No, I didn't know such a played such a prominent part in your life.
1:35:02 Speaker 03 We were doing a pod yesterday. Like I said, it was me, Chris, Andy and Bill. And we're all around the table, and Bill and Chris, for not really a good reason, just started talking about Miami Vice in the middle of the episode and just stopped looking at me and Andy. And just kind of were like eye fucking each other and talking about Miami Vice. And I think they might have fist bumped across the table at a certain point. And it was like kind of sweet, but really weird.
1:35:26 Yasi Salek? Sean, that's why it's not Sean Fantasy Month.
1:35:28 Speaker 03 I, well, it never is, honestly, but I, I thought that was funny. And then that one day later, here you are, bringing it up again.
1:35:37 Yasi Salek? Bill, if you're listening, which you're probably not, if you guys do Lost Boys rewatchables, I'm so ready to be called up-
1:35:43 Speaker 03 Is that a movie on his radar?
1:35:44 Yasi Salek? Off the bench.
1:35:44 Speaker 04 I think, I, I think I've mentioned it to him before.
1:35:47 Yasi Salek? Um, I brought it up because also-
1:35:49 Speaker 04 I love Lost Boys, though.
1:35:50 Yasi Salek? It's another, it's another candidate, although I don't think it is good enough to, well, it has good stuff on it. Great soundtrack.
1:35:59 Speaker 04 St. Elmo's Fire?
1:36:01 Yasi Salek? TV show?
1:36:02 Speaker 04 No, the movie. You're thinking of St. Elsfor.
1:36:04 Yasi Salek? Yep. St. Elmo's Fire, Brat Pack.
1:36:08 Speaker 04 Yep.
1:36:08 Yasi Salek? Demi Moore.
1:36:09 Speaker 04 Going to Georgetown, then getting out of college and being like, what are we gonna do with our lives?
1:36:13 Yasi Salek? Man, again, they don't make those kinds of movies anymore either.
1:36:16 Speaker 04 Bright Lights, Big City, was that a good soundtrack?
1:36:18 Speaker 03 You know, I just watched that movie for the first time last week.
1:36:21 Speaker 04 I was looking at it because it's 88, right?
1:36:22 Speaker 03 Have you seen that movie?
1:36:23 Yasi Salek? Bright Lights, Big City?
1:36:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:36:25 Yasi Salek? No, I've actually also not read the book.
1:36:27 Speaker 04 Good book.
1:36:27 Speaker 03 I thought I had read it and then watching the movie, I was like, is this what happens in this book? I don't remember this at all.
1:36:32 Speaker 04 I mean, the book is in second person, so it's a much different reading experience.
1:36:35 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:36:36 Yasi Salek? I love second person writing. A lot of people don't like it.
1:36:39 Speaker 03 It's very easy to fuck up.
1:36:40 Speaker 04 Used sparingly.
1:36:41 Yasi Salek? Yeah. Um, here's a cool one, I feel, that I really feel like you guys will just enjoy the idea of and maybe watch it. And I'm gonna watch it over the weekend, maybe.
1:36:50 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
1:36:51 Yasi Salek? Have you heard of this British comedy from 1983 called Party Party?
1:36:56 Speaker 04 No.
1:36:57 Yasi Salek? It looks really cool. Everyone was like, kind of comparing it to like, Mike Lee films, like, coming of age. Um, but it has an, it seems like it would be really cool because it has an incredible soundtrack.
1:37:07 Speaker 03 Party Party?
1:37:08 Yasi Salek? Party Party, has Altered Images, Bananarama, Modern Romance.
1:37:11 Speaker 04 What's on the Absolute Beginner soundtrack?
1:37:14 Speaker 03 This one came up a lot, but I actually haven't seen that movie, which is what, a very early Oldman film? Gary Oldman?
1:37:19 Yasi Salek? Um, David Bowie, The Style Council, Eighth Wonder, more David Bowie, Sade, Jerry Dammers. Pretty cool, too.
1:37:25 Speaker 03 This is pretty cool.
1:37:26 Yasi Salek? This is on the long list, yeah. Working Girl, I believe, has a kind of a cool soundtrack.
1:37:30 Speaker 04 Isn't that mostly Carly Simon songs?
1:37:31 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:37:32 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:37:32 Yasi Salek? So, what's wrong with Carly Simon?
1:37:33 Speaker 04 Nothing.
1:37:33 Yasi Salek? You hate her?
1:37:35 Speaker 04 Just, yes, I hate Carly Simon.
1:37:37 Yasi Salek? Okay, James. Who was her partner that everyone thinks she wrote your stuff about?
1:37:42 Speaker 04 James Taylor.
1:37:43 Yasi Salek? James Taylor.
1:37:43 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:37:44 Speaker 03 No, this isn't Gary Oldman. I haven't seen this movie. It's Julian Temple.
1:37:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:37:48 Speaker 03 Um, but it's Eddie O'Connell, Patsy Kensit, James Fox, and Bowie.
1:37:54 Speaker 03 She was on a special.
1:37:55 Speaker 04 What a legend.
1:37:56 Speaker 03 The name of her character in that film is Crepe Suzette.
1:38:00 Yasi Salek? It's a really good Bond type.
1:38:03 Speaker 04 It is.
1:38:04 Yasi Salek? You guys have seen Streets of Fire? Did you mention it already?
1:38:07 Speaker 04 I once saw Streets of Fire. I can't claim to remember.
1:38:09 Speaker 03 Oh, I love it. There's a huge song on it. What's the Dan Hartman song?
1:38:15 Speaker 03 Oh, my God.
1:38:15 Yasi Salek? I can dream about you.
1:38:18 Speaker 03 Which comes from that movie. I think that's a pretty cool movie.
1:38:21 Speaker 04 Is that Walter Hill?
1:38:22 Speaker 03 It's Walter Hill. It's Walter Hill's kind of
1:38:26 Speaker 03 street rock musical.
1:38:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:38:28 Speaker 03 About like warring factions in a, you know, hell town. And Diane Lane is a, plays a rock and roll star.
1:38:38 Speaker 04 She's so cool.
1:38:39 Speaker 03 But it's like two years after Fabulous Stains 2. So it's like kind of her doing that and pumping it up on steroids. That's a pretty cool movie. Michael Perre, I think, is the star.
1:38:48 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah. I remember this now.
1:38:50 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's a pretty cool movie. Very stylish. And Willem Dafoe's the bad guy.
1:38:55 Yasi Salek? I'll see it.
1:38:56 Speaker 04 Have you ever seen To Live and Die in L.A.?
1:38:58 Yasi Salek? No.
1:38:59 Speaker 04 That has a great soundtrack by Wang Chung.
1:39:01 Yasi Salek? But I had a blog one called To Live and Die in L.A.
1:39:04 Speaker 04 Was it about?
1:39:04 Yasi Salek? It was about food.
1:39:05 Speaker 04 Counterfeit money?
1:39:07 Speaker 03 Like circa 2005?
1:39:10 Yasi Salek? Yeah, maybe six, seven.
1:39:12 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:39:13 Speaker 04 Right before the housing collapse.
1:39:15 Yasi Salek? Right before the Enron. Yeah, the housing collapse. Right, Enron.
1:39:21 Speaker 03 Did you cover Enron on To Live and Die in L.A.?
1:39:23 Yasi Salek? Um, no.
1:39:25 Speaker 03 It didn't come up.
1:39:26 Yasi Salek? Also, Enron was like, I think it was actually, no, Enron was earlier. It was like 2003.
1:39:30 Speaker 03 You know what they said about Enron?
1:39:32 Yasi Salek? No.
1:39:32 Speaker 03 They named a documentary after them, The Smartest Guys in the Room.
1:39:35 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:39:36 Speaker 03 Which is obviously who you've been spending the last couple of hours with. This is the smartest guys in this room.
1:39:41 Yasi Salek? I feel like I've been spending the last couple of hours with the meanest guys in the room.
1:39:44 Speaker 04 Wow, come on. I don't know. I think we let you, I think we gave you.
1:39:47 Yasi Salek? Let you. Look at the, look at the slip there.
1:39:49 Speaker 04 Because I don't think.
1:39:50 Yasi Salek? We've allowed you.
1:39:51 Speaker 04 I don't think you made it abundantly clear coming into this that this was going to be largely oriented about what pods I want to make later.
1:39:59 Yasi Salek? Right. It's not about want. It's about what am I able to make interesting?
1:40:04 Speaker 03 It's about deserve.
1:40:07 Speaker 04 Uh, do you feel good about the 10?
1:40:09 Yasi Salek? Um, I do. The only one I feel sad about not having is Dirty Dancing because Joanna Robinson wanted to do that episode, but just doing 11.
1:40:17 Speaker 04 I mean, if you put Dirty Dancing in, there's just gonna be. A waterfall of outrage.
1:40:22 Yasi Salek? That's so true.
1:40:22 Speaker 04 From Sean.
1:40:23 Speaker 03 You and Joanna, have you podcasted?
1:40:25 Yasi Salek? No, it would be the first time, wouldn't it be great?
1:40:27 Speaker 04 Then you should put Dirty Dancing on there.
1:40:29 Yasi Salek? Number 11, Band's Plan, we do things different.
1:40:32 Speaker 03 On my IG, I'll be doing a long riff on I Can Dream About You by Dan Hartman from Streets of Fire.
1:40:37 Yasi Salek? Do you think you'd ever get into front-facing camera work?
1:40:40 Speaker 03 I've been encouraged many times by Bill Simmons.
1:40:42 Yasi Salek? It's kind of fun. I mean, you have to like, like it. Like, I think Chris Ryan is like wellness checking me sometimes when I'm doing it. But I genuinely like it.
1:40:50 Speaker 03 This has been really a fruitful conversation.
1:40:53 Yasi Salek? Yeah, I think we've, I think we've covered a lot of ground.
1:40:55 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
1:40:57 Yasi Salek? Way more than was allocated within the episode construct, and that's fine with me, I love it.
1:41:04 Speaker 03 Do you like a hang pod?
1:41:05 Yasi Salek? Love a hang pod.
1:41:06 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:41:07 Yasi Salek? You don't like it?
1:41:07 Speaker 03 No, I do, I do. Most of what I do is so structured.
1:41:11 Speaker 04 Do you like to let your hair down?
1:41:13 Speaker 03 I understand it's my fault.
1:41:14 Yasi Salek? It's a real hot dog, uh, Tim Robinson meme.
1:41:16 Speaker 04 But it's, it's, I think you gotta have both in your life, you know?
1:41:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, I don't, I'm not on a lot of hangs. You know, call me for the hang.
1:41:24 Yasi Salek? I mean, Band's Plan is not really a hang.
1:41:26 Speaker 04 I think I bring it out of you, if I, if I do say so myself.
1:41:28 Speaker 03 You bring it out of me?
1:41:29 Speaker 04 When I'm with you, you're like, I can, I can.
1:41:31 Yasi Salek? You loosen up a little.
1:41:32 Speaker 04 The shoulders come down a little bit.
1:41:33 Speaker 03 Yeah. Well, I feel like I'm in very good hands today.
1:41:36 Yasi Salek? You know how it's, it's like how pets, pets regulate your nervous system?
1:41:40 Speaker 03 Sure.
1:41:41 Yasi Salek? Chris regulates your nervous system.
1:41:44 Speaker 03 No, I mean, I'm, I'm generally doing just fine, but.
1:41:47 Yasi Salek? You say that a lot, to the point that it feels like the lady doth protest too much.
1:41:52 Speaker 03 I don't know if it came first.
1:41:54 Speaker 04 If it was like the Stones, like if I flew into a mountain, you think you would be doing just fine?
1:42:00 Speaker 03 It would be absolutely devastating. I don't, I don't, wouldn't even make a joke about that.
1:42:04 Yasi Salek? Do you think anyone's still listening at this minute of the pod? I'm just, like, who are the real ones?
1:42:09 Speaker 03 We're just still furiously masturbating, and they're on hour three of Cranking It to Chris. Trying to clock all the references he's made, and they're trying to buy him a sauna so that he can do his into-camera video, like, you know?
1:42:22 Yasi Salek? The CR heads, I have to say, are not the same as your fans who constantly yell at me for being mean to you.
1:42:29 Speaker 03 Well, I'm, you know, taking note, just saying.
1:42:31 Yasi Salek? What do you think that says about you?
1:42:34 Speaker 03 It says that I have many strong defenders.
1:42:36 Yasi Salek? Because they feel that you're weak? Is that why?
1:42:39 Speaker 03 No, because I don't.
1:42:40 Yasi Salek? I'm doing it now.
1:42:41 Speaker 03 I don't fight back, because I accept that this is a part of my persona, is to be the person that is picked on in this way. It's a fact.
1:42:50 Speaker 04 I would dispute the fact that he doesn't fight back.
1:42:53 Speaker 03 Well, in the ways in which I could fight back.
1:42:56 Speaker 04 Oh, okay.
1:42:56 Yasi Salek? Right.
1:42:58 Speaker 03 You know?
1:42:58 Yasi Salek? It's like HR.
1:42:58 Speaker 04 That's ominous.
1:42:59 Speaker 03 No, no, no, ad hominem, there are a lot of ad hominem attacks against me.
1:43:03 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, online.
1:43:04 Speaker 03 No, the lady doth protest too much about everything being okay. I didn't, I didn't say anything like that about you.
1:43:12 Speaker 03 Well, that's why there's defenders out there for me.
1:43:14 Speaker 04 That's true.
1:43:16 Speaker 03 You asked a question.
1:43:16 Speaker 04 You did.
1:43:17 Yasi Salek? I feel you get your hits in just more subtly.
1:43:20 Speaker 03 Maybe so.
1:43:21 Yasi Salek? Yeah.
1:43:21 Speaker 03 What do you think?
1:43:23 Speaker 04 I only ever feel support from you.
1:43:26 Speaker 03 I do. I'm glad to hear that.
1:43:28 Speaker 04 You're really supportive of me.
1:43:29 Speaker 03 I'm glad to hear that.
1:43:30 Yasi Salek? I would give anything to just have like a body swap day and I get to be CR for a day.
1:43:35 Speaker 03 Because you'd feel so like rewarded and full?
1:43:38 Yasi Salek? Yeah, I feel like I would feel so confident.
1:43:40 Speaker 04 No.
1:43:40 Yasi Salek? So self like fulfilled, so adored.
1:43:44 Speaker 03 I think one of the reasons why it's very easy for me to be such a vocal advocate of Chris is because I, I know Chris. I really know Chris. And he is everything that he presents, but there's more.
1:43:57 Speaker 04 And the more is?
1:43:58 Speaker 03 Well, I wouldn't reveal that here.
1:43:59 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:44:00 Speaker 03 That's private.
1:44:01 Yasi Salek? It's between you and Claude. Um, okay, you guys, this has been so fun. Thank you so much for coming to do this. I feel we got to a pretty good list. I know I, I know I swayed it obviously a bit more, maybe more than a bit in the direction of what would make good podcast episodes, but I still think it's pretty representative.
1:44:21 Speaker 04 What's the one that's on there that you were like, Lord, I never knew I would be making a pod about this?
1:44:26 Yasi Salek? Footloose, probably.
1:44:27 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:44:28 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:44:28 Yasi Salek? Thank you for listening and watching this episode of Bands Flame. Come back next week
1:44:37 Yasi Salek? for a new episode.
1:44:38 Speaker 03 What is it gonna be?
1:44:40 Speaker 04 It's Justice Trip from Angel Dust.
1:44:41 Yasi Salek? Yeah, next week is, we're joined once again by my best friend, Chris Ryan, where we'll be breaking down the best music of Q1.
1:44:49 Speaker 04 I prefer just to say the first three months of the year. It's not a financial disclosure report. And also, according to Trump, we don't really need to do financial disclosures anymore.
1:44:57 Yasi Salek? Okay, well, Chris would prefer that we make it the first, the best music of the first three months of 2026. Rolls right off the tongue.
1:45:06 Speaker 03 It's got a ring to it.
1:45:07 Yasi Salek? Yeah. And we'll have an interview with Justice Trip of Angel Dust. So you don't want to miss it.
1:45:23 Yasi Salek? If you liked what you heard today, subscribe for more episodes of Band's Play. Our guests today were Sean Fennessy and Chris Ryan. This episode was produced by Rob Sunderman and edited by Chris Sutton with help from Justin Sales. Video production by Sarah Reddy. Executive producers for Band's Play are Gina Delvecq and me, Yassa Salek. Our Gorgeous and Catchy theme song was composed and performed by Bethany Cosentino and Jennifer Clayman and graciously recorded by Carlos de la Garza in Los Angeles, California. Special thanks to our producer Emeritus Producer Dylan, aka Dylan Tupper Rupper, and also Sean Fennessy and Sour Patch Kids. Come back every Thursday for a new episode of Band's Play on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts.
1:46:02 Speaker 01 You're done with your snack? Mm-hmm.
1:46:06 Speaker 01 Okay.
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