FLO on Building the Ultimate Girl Group

FLO is here, and this one’s for the fans. Jorja, Renée, and Stella get into the story behind “Cardboard Box,” the PowerPoint that convinced their label to release it, and how Therapy at the Club turns heartbreak, healing, and girls’ nights into nonstop bops. They also get candid about dating, dream collaborations, and girl group legacy, with plenty of laughs along the way. Then Keke tests their knowledge in “Name That Girl Group Hit” and joins FLO as the honorary fourth member for a sing-along. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Keke Palmer?

  Every generation has that one girl group that becomes the soundtrack to your life. The group whose song gets you through your first crush, your first heartbreak, your first night out with your girls, and every messy, beautiful chapter in between. And for today's generation, that group is Flow. They got the vocals, they got the harmonies, they got the style. But more importantly, they built something you can't manufacture: genuine sisterhood. In just a few short years, Georgia, Stella, and Renee have become one of the most exciting voices in modern R&B. But this story is about more than music. It's about three young women building a global girl group without losing themselves, their friendship, or each other. Because coming into this industry as a black girl group

• 0:44Keke Palmer?

  meant they had to kick the door down. So today, we're talking about ambition, sisterhood, success, and what it takes to create your own space when nobody's saving a seat for you. Because, baby, this is Keke Palmer.

• 1:30Keke Palmer?

  And this is Flow. Come out here, girls.

• 1:34Keke Palmer?

  I'm so excited. I'm so excited to meet y'all and hang out with you, girl. I'm doing so much.

• 1:43Speaker 01

  That was like emotional.

• 1:45Speaker 02

  Honestly, that was perfect.

• 1:47Keke Palmer?

  You know, we had to give you guys your props. You guys look fabulous.

• 1:51Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:52Keke Palmer?

  I love you.

• 1:53Speaker 03

  So summer.

• 1:54Keke Palmer?

  You guys live in London full-time, but you were just doing an Out Loud festival and then you're gonna be doing some more stuff in L.A. So you're getting accustomed to the L.A. vibe.

• 2:03Speaker 01

  We're definitely in L.A. more than at home. I don't know if my mattress is firm.

• 2:11Keke Palmer?

  Do you guys feel like you'll be living in L.A. sometime soon?

• 2:15Speaker 02

  Probably like beginning of next year.

• 2:17Keke Palmer?

  Really?

• 2:18Speaker 02

  I know, it's so close.

• 2:20Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my gosh. What part? Do y'all know what type, what town?

• 2:23Speaker 01

  Depends how much money we've got by then.

• 2:25Keke Palmer?

  Now, you ain't never lie. Because L.A. is expensive. But you know who's more expensive? New York. She needs to get her ass together. It gets to a point. You know what I mean? But I heard that London is very expensive.

• 2:35Speaker 01

  London is expensive. I think more than L.A.

• 2:37Keke Palmer?

  It is. So I think you'll get like a little break. You know, a little release.

• 2:40Speaker 02

  A financial break.

• 2:41Keke Palmer?

  A little financial break with L.A. I like that you guys are getting into the L.A. vibe. I know we're gonna be very happy to have you. I would love seeing y'all out of the town.

• 2:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I feel like we're more known there as well. Like, we just feel more familiar with it.

• 2:53Speaker 03

  We have a better like network of people there. Like, people that we work with.

• 2:58Keke Palmer?

  It's so interesting to hear that. I was so curious of how you guys feel your fan base is in relation to back home and in America. Because in the U.S., I mean, I don't know a lot about London. I don't get a lot of time there. But I know in the U.S., we go up for you guys. Do you feel the same vibe back home?

• 3:15Speaker 02

  Definitely. But I think because we don't spend a lot of time there, it's hard to feel that connection.

• 3:21Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 3:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:22Keke Palmer?

  So we always do a pre-show pull-up for our show. But obviously, it's three of you girls here. So I mean, we could just go one by one, Stella, Georgia, Renee, and just figure out. So what's your zodiac sign?

• 3:32Speaker 01

  Sag.

• 3:33Keke Palmer?

  You're Sagittarius. Do you know your rising or your moon?

• 3:37Speaker 01

  I think, I think, I... One of them is a Taurus.

• 3:43Keke Palmer?

  Oh, okay.

• 3:44Speaker 01

  Which is interesting, because Taurus is sometimes...

• 3:46Keke Palmer?

  Get on your nerves.

• 3:47Speaker 01

  A little bit.

• 3:48Keke Palmer?

  Maybe they're a little bit you.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  Projected. And then one's a Leo, I think.

• 3:56Keke Palmer?

  Okay, okay. So it's a fire, double fire going on. What are you?

• 3:59Speaker 03

  She's fiery.

• 4:00Speaker 02

  I'm a Capricorn.

• 4:01Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my gosh, that's my perfect match. I'm a Virgo. I live for a Capricorn. Very shady, but keeping it together. Very aloof, but still engaged. I love a Capricorn. What's your rising and your moon?

• 4:13Speaker 03

  No idea.

• 4:13Keke Palmer?

  She's no idea.

• 4:15Speaker 03

  No idea.

• 4:15Keke Palmer?

  What about you, Renee?

• 4:16Speaker 02

  I'm a Libra.

• 4:17Keke Palmer?

  Libra. Okay, the aesthetic is aesthetic-y. But like, I can always count on a Libra for this. Do you know your rising or your moon?

• 4:24Speaker 02

  I don't.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  I wouldn't know, though.

• 4:26Keke Palmer?

  Is astrology huge in London?

• 4:28Speaker 02

  Not as much as in America.

• 4:30Keke Palmer?

  Too going up for it over here.

• 4:31Speaker 01

  Is that the first thing people ask?

• 4:32Keke Palmer?

  It's crazy. We be doing the most.

• 4:34Speaker 02

  It's hi, how are you? Watch your star sign.

• 4:39Keke Palmer?

  What is y'all's love language? Do you know? Like, a physical? Are you the type of person that likes to touch? Are you the type of person that likes to... Acts of service?

• 4:46Speaker 02

  Acts of service and words of affirmation.

• 4:49Keke Palmer?

  Oh, come on, you better affirm me.

• 4:50Speaker 02

  Yes, please.

• 4:51Keke Palmer?

  Yes!

• 4:54Keke Palmer?

  What about you, Georgia?

• 4:55Speaker 03

  I would say acts of service.

• 4:57Keke Palmer?

  Acts of service, okay. It's giving, let me cater to you.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Yes. Wait.

• 5:02Speaker 01

  And then what do you like to receive?

• 5:04Keke Palmer?

  Oh, it's what you like to receive. I thought it was also what you like to give.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  It could be either. I was saying for receiving.

• 5:10Keke Palmer?

  For receiving. For giving, what do you think you give most?

• 5:18Speaker 01

  Period.

• 5:19Keke Palmer?

  Okay, I show up. This is the big one.

• 5:22Speaker 01

  You're welcome.

• 5:23Keke Palmer?

  What about you, Stella?

• 5:25Speaker 03

  Um, physical touch.

• 5:26Keke Palmer?

  Okay.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  Which is weird, because like...

• 5:28Speaker 01

  You don't like...

• 5:29Speaker 03

  I don't like... Yeah.

• 5:30Keke Palmer?

  That's crazy. You wanna touch, but you don't want to be touched.

• 5:35Speaker 03

  You're not the right person. Yeah. And polytime.

• 5:40Keke Palmer?

  Poly, what is this?

• 5:40Speaker 03

  Quality.

• 5:41Keke Palmer?

  I thought you said poly. I thought you said in polytime. I said, now, what's polytime? I'm into a little polytime, dude. Yeah, quality time. I do love sharing the same space, even if we're on our phone.

• 5:52Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 5:53Keke Palmer?

  Like, be next to me and be human beside.

• 5:55Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 5:56Keke Palmer?

  And let that be that. What's a question you wish you were asked more in interviews?

• 6:01Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh.

• 6:05Keke Palmer?

  You have the cutest chin that I've literally ever seen.

• 6:09Speaker 03

  Thank you. Um, I don't know. I feel like we only know when it happens. Like, we'll get that question and we'll actually like say.

• 6:19Keke Palmer?

  Wow, thank you.

• 6:20Speaker 03

  This is such a good question. Thank you.

• 6:22Speaker 02

  But just anything like...

• 6:24Keke Palmer?

  Well, I know when I was doing my research, I was like, I can't ask him how the group got together.

• 6:28Speaker 03

  Oh, thank you, Kiki!

• 6:30Keke Palmer?

  I didn't wanna bring y'all through it. I was like, I can tell they don't wanna be asked yet.

• 6:34Speaker 01

  You don't know how many times you got asked.

• 6:36Keke Palmer?

  You've heard too many times, yeah. We got together, we met. We like each other.

• 6:39Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 6:40Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, so I did take that note. Um, okay. Who is someone that you've met that made you feel starstruck?

• 6:46Speaker 03

  Ooh. Kelly Rowland.

• 6:49Keke Palmer?

  Oh, come on, Kelly Rowland. I hope I do not. They're gonna get on me about constantly slipping into y'all's actions.

• 6:55Speaker 01

  That's fine, because you're good.

• 6:56Keke Palmer?

  It just makes me happy. I feel like I'm one of the girls.

• 6:59Speaker 03

  Yes, you are one of the girls.

• 7:01Keke Palmer?

  So Kelly Rowland, we love Kelly. Kelly, hands down. Brandy. Brandy, period.

• 7:06Speaker 03

  I mean, of course. Mariah Carey. Just met Stevie Wonder.

• 7:10Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my God!

• 7:12Speaker 03

  And that was definitely... Like, that was quite... I don't know, it was quite different in a way. Like, we went to his studio, so it felt very... It felt very real, but surreal.

• 7:24Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 7:25Speaker 03

  I feel like a lot of people, like, we've... It's kind of felt a bit more like...

• 7:29Speaker 01

  Casual?

• 7:30Speaker 03

  Not casual.

• 7:31Speaker 01

  It felt intimate.

• 7:32Speaker 03

  It felt, yeah. With him, it felt intimate. But sometimes it will be like at an event, so there's kind of like this pressure.

• 7:37Keke Palmer?

  It's chaos.

• 7:38Speaker 03

  It's just like, hi, we love you, bye. But this really felt like... I was like, we was like, shut down. Shut. It was like, oh, my God, this is...

• 7:48Keke Palmer?

  And it honestly feel like it really matches to me. Like, I could imagine y'all doing some collaboration with Stevie. Because I think that's one of the things people love so much about you guys, too, as a girl group, is you're really singing. Y'all be into the harmonies. Y'all gonna give a whole moment and arrangement. And so it, I would love to see more with y'all in this Stevie vibe. What kind of vibe can we get in? With Stevie, yeah.

• 8:06Speaker 03

  Definitely just the classic, like, true music.

• 8:10Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  A song.

• 8:12Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A full one, with the bridge. Maybe. They cut the bridges out lately, because they trying to get them streams up, anyway. Okay, so we already know how you guys got together as a girl group. But maybe I can just say, like, in the beginning, right before you made this transition, what was happening in your life at that time? Like, were you kind of figuring out what you wanted to do? Did you know you were gonna be doing music full-time? Like, who were you before you guys became Flow?

• 8:34Speaker 01

  I mean, we were studying music in college. So college, that's like 17, 18 years old.

• 8:40Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 8:41Speaker 01

  And I think it was the last year of me and Georgia being in college, right, that we got in the group. And Renee was in her first year. So we were, we knew what we wanted to do.

• 8:50Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 8:50Speaker 01

  So it was, we didn't really have that like awkward time after school where we were like...

• 8:54Keke Palmer?

  Y'all was just like, how am I gonna make this work? How am I gonna get it together? Who are you credit for your development? Aside from, obviously, each other, right? But like...

• 9:02Speaker 02

  We definitely had access to like studio time via our label, Island, which definitely made the journey easier, because we didn't really have to worry about paying for it.

• 9:15Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 9:15Speaker 02

  Um, so that... Props to them for that.

• 9:18Keke Palmer?

  What about those early, right? Till later. Till later. Suddenly have a 500 tours day.

• 9:27Keke Palmer?

  Like, what the hell? So who were some of those early producers that you guys worked with that you feel like really helped to develop you guys' sound?

• 9:34Speaker 01

  Eminem.

• 9:35Speaker 03

  Eminem K, for sure.

• 9:37Keke Palmer?

  Eminem K.

• 9:37Speaker 03

  Eminem K.

• 9:38Keke Palmer?

  Come on!

• 9:39Speaker 03

  Yes. He's literally taught us like most of what we know when it comes to writing songs

• 9:46Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 9:46Speaker 03

  and like what we wanna hear in production. Um, it was a lot of him.

• 9:51Keke Palmer?

  I love that.

• 9:51Speaker 02

  Jamal.

• 9:52Speaker 03

  Jamal.

• 9:53Speaker 02

  Jamal Wu. Like, a lot of UK collaborators.

• 9:56Keke Palmer?

  Oh, I love that. Shout out to... I need to take my ass up there. Come on, Eminem K.

• 10:00Speaker 03

  Yes!

• 10:05Keke Palmer?

  So you guys immediately knew... Because I mean, look, when you're on your road to music, whether it's you yourself or you with the group, you know or you don't when it's not the right situation.

• 10:15Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 10:15Keke Palmer?

  What let you know that this was a combination that you could really get with? That you felt like, no, no, like, I think, I think this is gonna be real for us. Like, we can actually be a group.

• 10:23Speaker 02

  Definitely each other. Like, I felt really comfortable with the vision of Flow, because I feel like we are the right type of people to be in a group together. Yeah.

• 10:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, also, like, our lives were not... We grew up the same way.

• 10:39Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 10:40Speaker 01

  Kind of. Like, we all were raised by single moms.

• 10:43Keke Palmer?

  Come on.

• 10:43Speaker 01

  So like, we've seen the hard work.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, we know what it takes.

• 10:48Speaker 01

  We have the ambition. And so that definitely helped us to be like, okay, we're like sisters. And we're all only children. No, can't sing.

• 10:58Keke Palmer?

  Now, I know your mom's a... Is she an Olympian?

• 11:01Speaker 02

  Yes, she used to be. But she's, I guess you're always calling her Olympian.

• 11:04Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, once you're Olympian, you're Olympian. So I'm sure you learned a lot about discipline, for sure, and determination from her.

• 11:09Speaker 01

  She could've helped me a little bit more.

• 11:13Speaker 03

  But definitely, her like, message was like, I didn't need to be like, traditional in terms of education. Because like, she didn't do that. And um, but if I found something that was my passion, like she did, like athletics was her passion, then you make it a career. But like, you have to make it a career.

• 11:33Keke Palmer?

  And you just gotta go with the flow.

• 11:37Speaker 03

  No pun intended.

• 11:38Keke Palmer?

  When you guys say chemistry, because you were talking about how you guys fit, I mean, who are you guys to each other in the group, right? Like, it's like, who's the peacemaker? Who's the comic relief? Who's the one that, let's go outside, let's get into the crowd? Like, what role do y'all play? Or do y'all switch it up, you know, at any given time?

• 11:53Speaker 02

  It really does like.

• 11:54Speaker 03

  It depends on our cycles.

• 11:56Speaker 02

  Honestly, it does.

• 11:57Keke Palmer?

  Because that could change everything. I could be the monster real fast. Okay, come on, Monster Mash.

• 12:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, it really depends. It depends.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  I think.

• 12:12Keke Palmer?

  Of it all.

• 12:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, it really, it does depend.

• 12:15Speaker 02

  It does change.

• 12:15Speaker 03

  Because we've all had to do every role at some point.

• 12:18Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 12:19Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 12:20Speaker 02

  But that's why it's good to have three. Yeah, like, we're always covered in all areas, because there's three of us.

• 12:26Keke Palmer?

  Yeah. And three is a tough number, though, sometimes, because it's like, you know, how do you guys all decide on one thing? Like, has there ever been a time where?

• 12:32Speaker 03

  Three is the perfect number.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  Honestly, any more would be too many, too much. Two people agree, then.

• 12:38Speaker 03

  It's a democracy.

• 12:39Speaker 01

  It's a democracy.

• 12:40Keke Palmer?

  Have you guys ever had a moment where it's like, sorry boo, this is the song, or hey boo, this is the look? You know, where it's like, you guys are going like, na na na na na?

• 12:48Speaker 02

  Maybe more recently, when we were deciding what songs to put on our album. There was one song that we were like, quite unsure about, and it was definitely like, I was outruled. And it was like, cool.

• 13:01Keke Palmer?

  And have you been proven wrong?

• 13:03Speaker 01

  Well, we don't actually know if we can take it off the album.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, we don't know what's happening.

• 13:10Keke Palmer?

  Favorite song, you'll be.

• 13:11Speaker 03

  It's so true, you really never know.

• 13:13Speaker 01

  That's the thing, people have said that to us. It's the one that you don't want, is the big song.

• 13:17Keke Palmer?

  Isn't that so weird how that happens? I mean, when you think about your debut single, uh, that came out in twenty twenty-two, did you, were you guys a hundred percent unanimous on that being?

• 13:25Speaker 01

  Yes. We were.

• 13:26Keke Palmer?

  Y'all knew.

• 13:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. We had to tell the label.

• 13:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:29Speaker 01

  The label weren't sure.

• 13:30Speaker 02

  We had to find.

• 13:31Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, we were making PowerPoints.

• 13:33Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my gosh, you guys, so wait, no, we need that corporate process, you know, because they see, the people, the fans see the creative process, but they don't know that our girls have to also be CEOs.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 13:42Keke Palmer?

  In order to be an artist in this game, you have to have the power. I can't tell you how many times I've slaved over a deck, trying to put all my insights together and why this is the correct move to make with me. So tell me the process of like, being like, putting your packaging together, or getting your stuff together where you were confident, and having to get the label to sign off and believe. Like, what were the steps? You made a presentation or?

• 14:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, we had been making music for like, two years, up until we even put a song out. And there was this one awkward Ladies with Me, and it was cute.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  It was cute.

• 14:13Speaker 01

  It was cute, like, it was a fine song.

• 14:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:15Speaker 01

  Funny, yeah. But I think that they wanted us to like, get to Cardboard Box. Cardboard Box, everyone knew was a big song.

• 14:22Speaker 03

  They didn't want us to kick the door down.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  They were like, it's too early to put that song out. But we were like, no.

• 14:27Speaker 03

  No, we need to come out the gates swinging.

• 14:30Keke Palmer?

  Yes, girls!

• 14:31Speaker 01

  Let's go. I mean, the PowerPoint actually had like, a whole EP.

• 14:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:35Speaker 01

  It was beyond one song.

• 14:36Keke Palmer?

  Yeah. Oh, my gosh, Cardboard Box. I do want, I had wrote down the lyrics, I had to ask you guys something about that. This one particular leg, let me get my cards together, now that we own Cardboard Box, because I need to know. Okay, so, you guys say this in the, in the song, "You ain't gonna change, boy. What's the point in stringing me along? We're done for real, so I'mma put [BLEEP] in the Cardboard Box."

• 14:57Speaker 03

  Cardboard Box.

• 15:00Keke Palmer?

  Changing my number and I'm changing the lock, so spill the tea. Was it based on a real experience?

• 15:06Speaker 01

  I wish there was some tea, like.

• 15:07Speaker 03

  We were children when we made it through, like, I don't know.

• 15:11Speaker 02

  Like seventeen and eighteen.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  It's just all about like, fantasy, especially at that age. It was just like.

• 15:18Keke Palmer?

  Y'all were lying to do that shit.

• 15:19Speaker 02

  Honestly, but also.

• 15:20Keke Palmer?

  Very getting a little tired of your box.

• 15:21Speaker 02

  Yes, exactly, exactly. But like, as a girl group, like, we looked to certain artists, and they've always had that kind of like, I'm gonna do this, I'll bust the windows out your car, like. So we were just channeling that energy, like, the day, the day is gonna come, when we're gonna do some [BLEEP].

• 15:38Keke Palmer?

  Yes!

• 15:38Speaker 02

  Like, we can take it there.

• 15:40Keke Palmer?

  So what is it like for you guys, like, as artists? And I, and I love what you said, because it is about also building a fantasy. Like, your, your fans get to know you, like, in your interviews, or when they get to be around you, but like, making sure they know that, like, also the music, I'm trying to give you the entertainment that you need. How was it crafting the personality? Like, what were the groups that you guys kind of looked at, or like, were like, not want to say fashioning yourselves after, but like, deciding how to give people that show, that girl group, like?

• 16:06Speaker 03

  I feel like, we didn't really do a lot of that.

• 16:10Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 16:10Speaker 03

  Like, I think naturally, everything we knew, like, was.

• 16:14Keke Palmer?

  In the zeitgeist.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  Exa- exactly. Like, it was all just instilled in us, and because we had Eminem, who is so knowledgeable about girl groups.

• 16:24Keke Palmer?

  I love Eminem's name, right? It's fabulous.

• 16:27Speaker 03

  Fabulous. Um, like, we really just followed his lead.

• 16:33Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 16:34Speaker 03

  It was one of those things where it was like, you have someone who kind of knows what they're talking about, and you just like, learn.

• 16:40Keke Palmer?

  Yes.

• 16:41Speaker 03

  We weren't very like, uh, we can't be like that, can't be like that, we can't be like that. We were just like, if it feels right.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:48Speaker 03

  Great.

• 16:49Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, and you knew you wanted to bring that attitude. And you guys have a good relationship with your audience, too. I'm, I'm curious on how you were able to establish that, because, you know, there's one thing, when you have a fanbase, and then it's like, sometimes you might have, where it's like, [BLEEP] is crazy. I feel like your relationship with y'all's fans, they're very much deeply engaged, but also supportive. Like, they have a good warming, you're, you're, like, I love y'all's stand group. How was it kind of getting that relationship going?

• 17:13Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 17:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:14Speaker 01

  Like, they are the reason we are where we are.

• 17:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:18Speaker 01

  Like, we really got our fanbase, like, before everything.

• 17:22Keke Palmer?

  Yes.

• 17:23Speaker 03

  We've got a fanbase and no hit.

• 17:25Keke Palmer?

  My boy Lawrence Murray, AKA LaRoe, I had to shout him out, because he's the first person that put, I swear, he was y'all's first fan. And he was like, yo, Kiki, you need to know about Flo. Because he, because I'm always looking for the next. Like, I love, I love seeing and spotting new talent, figuring out how to like, know what's happening in culture. Before y'all had y'all first hit anything, he knew. And I was like, yes, put me on the floor, so I'm really happy to have his.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 17:50Keke Palmer?

  Yes, yes.

• 17:51Speaker 02

  I feel like we got lucky, because a lot of our fans are very similar to us, like, just in terms of how they carry themselves. So we've never really experienced having like, a mean fanbase, or having to tell people like, don't be like that, like, they just get it.

• 18:05Keke Palmer?

  And they stand up for y'all, but they stand up and we're like, let them cook, let them cook, because my girl is coming back, don't even wait a minute. Like, it's like the industry is so that.

• 18:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:13Keke Palmer?

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 18:14Speaker 01

  But they're still honest as well, which is nice.

• 18:16Speaker 02

  It's a healthy dynamic.

• 18:17Speaker 03

  Because we're really honest, and we do appreciate constructive criticism, and like, we never want to be like, I think the worst thing is having delusional fans.

• 18:26Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 18:27Speaker 03

  Like, we have very not delusional fans.

• 18:31Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, and they feel like.

• 18:32Speaker 01

  Well, maybe we're all delusional, but the delusional level is the same.

• 18:36Keke Palmer?

  I know exactly what you mean, though, and they also seem like they're a little keyed into the industry. Like, they're always ready to let, they're ready to know, like, you don't know what they had to go through, like, their single was like, you know, they kind of given, like, it's very funny how that has happened, but it helps us as entertainers, because it's like, yeah, know a little something, so that you can know where I'm coming from.

• 18:51Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 18:52Keke Palmer?

  Um, why do you think people are so hungry for girl groups right now? Like, and obviously, this, I think this is like, the, the space where you guys have literally, yeah, came in and been like, we're here to say the day. But for a minute, what, you know, we didn't have any type of thing like that. Why do you think people wanted it so much?

• 19:08Speaker 01

  I feel like it's such a big part of like, growing up.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  I feel like the generation before us, they kind of had it.

• 19:15Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 19:15Speaker 01

  And so they want to see it again. And then the younger ones, like, they know it's happened for the other generations, and it's like, especially for the girls in the gates, it's like, such a big thing.

• 19:26Keke Palmer?

  It is.

• 19:26Speaker 01

  It's so important to like, grow up with music that is so real, and just fun, and then they can relate to each one of us. It's just like.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  It makes people think that they're a part of something. Not, I don't want to say think, because they are, but they look at something, and they're like, this is something that I can kind of.

• 19:47Speaker 02

  See myself in.

• 19:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, join. Whereas if it's your one person, it's kind of like.

• 19:53Speaker 02

  How do you like infiltrate that? Um, but if it's like a group, you're just like, yeah, I wanna join the group. Like, I wanna be a part of this community.

• 20:03Keke Palmer?

  Yes, yes. It's usually an archetype too kinda thing where you're like, I'm so and so. Like, if Destiny's Child, I was always Kelly Rowland. I'm Kelly.

• 20:12Speaker 02

  It's very.

• 20:13Keke Palmer?

  You know what I mean? Like, so there's always somebody that you can identify with. I think it's really, really fun, too. Make me think about Spice Girls. You can be Sporty Spice one day, Baby Spice the next. You know what I mean? Posh, you know? We live for that. I mean, but also you guys are traveling a lot, right? So, when you're thinking about how much your life has changed from the beginning, early days to the success you have now, how are you being able to maintain being grounded with being so far away from your family and stuff like that?

• 20:36Speaker 02

  Hmm, definitely like seeing family when we can. But I feel like because our, this has been our lives from the very beginning, so it doesn't feel drastically different.

• 20:48Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  Like, we just get on with it. Like, working seven days a week is normal to us.

• 20:53Keke Palmer?

  What I mean.

• 20:53Speaker 02

  We know about that.

• 20:54Keke Palmer?

  And the traveling. I always feel like that was always, even to this day, that's something that's really always annoying to me. I mean, it's just, you know, plane after plane after plane after plane.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, after a while.

• 21:03Keke Palmer?

  Just this taxing within itself, not having any types of routines. Are you guys ritual girls?

• 21:08Speaker 02

  I definitely like, like to keep some type of routine whenever we can.

• 21:14Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 21:14Speaker 02

  It's like you have to get the balance right of like taking a break when you need it, but working in an efficient way. But also going back to before, I think we're lucky because a lot of our team are like our friends and our family. So even when we're away from home, we still have home. Have fun. Yeah.

• 21:31Keke Palmer?

  Like, they've become or they're actually your relatives?

• 21:33Speaker 02

  Oh, they're not actually our relatives.

• 21:36Keke Palmer?

  But they feel.

• 21:37Speaker 02

  Families, yeah.

• 21:38Speaker 01

  Family.

• 21:38Speaker 02

  It has to.

• 21:39Keke Palmer?

  I love that. I love that.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  It's the only way.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:41Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 21:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:42Keke Palmer?

  Now, what would you say that you have been learning, right? If you're thinking about like growing up, you guys were saying you're single moms. Are there teachings and things that they gave you that you feel like are coming out to fruition? While, you know, kinda being on your own and being out on the road and doing all these kinds of work? Have you seen any of those kinda things come back? Like, oh, you know what, my mom and them, they was, you know, or?

• 22:03Speaker 02

  I think the main one is just that kind of boss bitch attitude.

• 22:08Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  I think that's really the most important thing that like we could have ever learned from our moms, which is just doing what you have to do.

• 22:17Keke Palmer?

  Yeah. Get it done, bitch.

• 22:18Speaker 02

  Get it done.

• 22:19Keke Palmer?

  That's right. I love get it done, bitch. Seriously, what else is gonna happen? If I do it, then nobody, you know what I mean?

• 22:25Speaker 02

  How would we know?

• 22:26Keke Palmer?

  Come on. But it's also tough when, when you are on the road and the people that you work with are your family. That means you have to have a lot of hard conversations sometimes. How do you guys handle that when it's like, ah, I need my space? Or, you know, whatever it could be, you know?

• 22:41Speaker 02

  It's definitely good because all the hard conversations are only for our benefit. So I feel like we understand those type of conversations. Yeah, it used to be difficult.

• 22:51Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Like, I think.

• 22:52Keke Palmer?

  You don't wanna hurt everybody's feelings, you know?

• 22:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I think there was definitely a, like, a period where people kind of avoided us in a way or like avoided having big conversations with us because we didn't take them very well.

• 23:05Keke Palmer?

  Hmm.

• 23:05Speaker 02

  But we, like, we were a little, well, I'm saying we.

• 23:10Speaker 01

  No, it's, we can, we can join you, but I think it was hard.

• 23:14Speaker 02

  Thank you, Renee.

• 23:15Speaker 01

  You're young.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  I think we were young, but also we didn't really have a lot of people that we respected their opinions.

• 23:24Keke Palmer?

  Uh-uh.

• 23:24Speaker 02

  And like, now we're.

• 23:26Keke Palmer?

  Now that's deep, but.

• 23:26Speaker 02

  It's, it's like.

• 23:28Keke Palmer?

  Because who are you and why? You don't have the credentials.

• 23:30Speaker 02

  But, you know, like, you know, I feel like a lot of our journey in the beginning was us fighting for like what we think is right. We were fighting for our lives.

• 23:38Keke Palmer?

  Yeah. Oh, my gosh. You know, it's hard being, I, I may, maybe I'm throwing out a guess, too. It's probably hard being the youngest person in the room. And being like, we got our hands on the pulse.

• 23:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, and it's like, we knew what we were talking about.

• 23:50Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 23:50Speaker 01

  And I think.

• 23:51Speaker 02

  Even though we were like completely inexperienced.

• 23:53Keke Palmer?

  But we knew.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  We knew because we know girl groups as well. And I think a lot of people in.

• 23:58Keke Palmer?

  I love it.

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Labels, like, they hadn't worked with a girl group.

• 24:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  Like, we haven't had a girl group. We, you know what I mean? Like, we, we.

• 24:05Speaker 02

  We were doing the karaoke. You were doing the karaoke.

• 24:08Keke Palmer?

  Would y'all ever do a reality show?

• 24:10Speaker 02

  Oh, my god, please. We need one.

• 24:12Keke Palmer?

  Produced by me.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  Yes!

• 24:14Keke Palmer?

  produced.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  Oh, my god, please.

• 24:16Keke Palmer?

  Legitimately, guys, I wanna watch y'all like the Demon Hunter kid, girl.

• 24:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  That would be so funny.

• 24:22Keke Palmer?

  I wanna be in flow with flow. Uh-oh. On the go with flow. We gonna find it by the end of.

• 24:28Speaker 02

  You're finding one, Renee.

• 24:29Keke Palmer?

  On the go with flow, bitch. Yes!

• 24:31Speaker 01

  Okay, okay, it's coming, it's coming.

• 24:33Speaker 02

  She's good. Wow, she's really good.

• 24:34Keke Palmer?

  Guys, I'm obsessed with you. Okay, wait a minute, let's get into this real quick because are y'all dating? I'm not trying to get into y'all business. Y'all ain't gotta tell me who it is, okay? But let's get into the real stuff that the girls wanna know about. Are the girls out here on the town getting wined and dined?

• 24:50Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 25:01Keke Palmer?

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• 25:46Keke Palmer?

  Like, we had been dropped there by the universe specifically. Somebody's situationship got on the grill and did not disappoint. He was clearly prepared because he brought the sandals and everything. And moments like that, moments where everyone gathers around food that somebody actually cooked outside with the ocean right there. It was the kinda trip you stop trying to document because you're too busy enjoying it. We found that stay on Airbnb and it set the bar for every couples' trip I take for the rest of my life. This is what peak summer can feel like, when the space is right. Find a home on Airbnb this summer and meet the moment. Peak summer is not waiting for you to get ready.

• 26:27Keke Palmer?

  There are two versions of me at any given moment. There's the version that is on the way somewhere, locked in, unbothered. Do not interrupt me. I have a purpose. And then there's the version that sees a Starbucks and just turns, mid-shred with absolutely no hesitation. The second one is my favorite version, especially in the summer. I'm the one who orders a tropical butterfly refresher. Guava and passion fruit flavors, these mango pineapple flavored pearls that pop in your mouth, and a butterfly pea flower infusion on top that just shifts the color of the whole drink right in front of you. And I stand there watching it happen like it's the most important thing that happened all week because it might be. One small choice can lead to a whole shift. Unlock your best summer memories with the tropical butterfly refresher from Starbucks.

• 27:11Keke Palmer?

  Order now on the app.

• 27:15Keke Palmer?

  So what's your type? Bunny? Are we looking for Mr. Smooth and Cool?

• 27:19Speaker 01

  They found them, mister.

• 27:22Keke Palmer?

  So y'all already in a relationship?

• 27:24Speaker 02

  I'm single.

• 27:25Keke Palmer?

  You're single. Okay, so wait a minute. So, so you're in a relationship. How long you guys been?

• 27:29Speaker 01

  Uh, two years.

• 27:30Keke Palmer?

  Okay, cool. In the business? Not in the business?

• 27:32Speaker 01

  In the business.

• 27:33Keke Palmer?

  Do the world know?

• 27:35Speaker 01

  Some of them know.

• 27:36Speaker 02

  The world that cares.

• 27:37Speaker 01

  The world that cares, no.

• 27:38Keke Palmer?

  Okay, boom, so they do know. What about yours?

• 27:40Speaker 02

  I have been in a relationship for six and a half years.

• 27:44Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my girl, that's your man. Oh, my gosh, six years.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  Yes, and he is actually a part of our management team.

• 27:51Keke Palmer?

  Mm-hmm.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  Hold it in.

• 27:53Keke Palmer?

  Come on, time you're taller.

• 27:54Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 27:58Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my god. I'm crazy. Okay, six years, bam. And so, are you looking for somebody or what?

• 28:04Speaker 02

  No. I'm not looking.

• 28:06Keke Palmer?

  She said self.

• 28:07Speaker 02

  I'm looking, yes, I'm looking for myself. I just think, I've been in, um, couple relationships and I always end up. Thank you. It got very Jimmy on really far.

• 28:17Keke Palmer?

  Couple relationships.

• 28:19Speaker 02

  Couple relationships.

• 28:22Speaker 02

  I always end up single.

• 28:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, they end up single.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  Yes, by, by, by choice. Yes, by choice. But I think that like I'm really young, I'm 23.

• 28:31Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 28:32Speaker 02

  And I need to just look in with myself. Like, I just need to focus. They'll come. You know, no distractions. Yes, when it comes, that's, that's great. But I'm just not actively looking because like dating is long and like.

• 28:44Keke Palmer?

  It takes a lot of energy.

• 28:45Speaker 02

  Anybody got time for that? Yeah.

• 28:46Keke Palmer?

  That's why I also had asked because it's like, sometimes we don't have the schedule for it.

• 28:50Speaker 02

  No, I don't.

• 28:50Keke Palmer?

  You know what I mean? The emotional bandwidth and it, you know what I mean? It requires a lot. But I mean, also, being desired is a part of being in your womanhood, too. So having a little moment just for romance and stuff, it also is inspirational to the music. So, you know, I'm like, you know, how does that play a role in your life?

• 29:05Speaker 02

  Renee is our muse. Like, her, her love life is our muse.

• 29:09Keke Palmer?

  Because it gives you something to play with, even if it ain't no good. Hell.

• 29:13Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, that's better.

• 29:14Keke Palmer?

  Came through the door, I told him, go.

• 29:17Speaker 02

  Yeah!

• 29:18Keke Palmer?

  Why my thing go so old?

• 29:22Speaker 01

  Wow. I think we need to do a session.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  Complicating.

• 29:28Keke Palmer?

  Please. Okay, um, how do you guys feel like you resist being trapped by controversies? Because one of the things that kills me about it with girl groups is that people love girl groups just to be able to be like, she's my favorite, her, she need to go, them, that. It's like, almost like they're the ones, they're the reasons why we don't have a girl group. Because you guys tore them all apart.

• 29:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:49Keke Palmer?

  So how do you like, you know, help each other in those times and periods where it's like, okay, they just trying to always force us to a competi- I mean, I don't even know how, if that's what you experienced.

• 29:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:59Keke Palmer?

  But I just know that is the reality sometimes of girl groups. So how do you guys prepare yourselves for this thing?

• 30:04Speaker 03

  I think what's good is that no one can tell us about ourselves.

• 30:07Keke Palmer?

  Okay.

• 30:08Speaker 03

  Like, we, we have an opinion of ourselves and have an opinion of each other, right? And so we can't really feed into like, these people that don't know what we know.

• 30:19Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 30:19Speaker 01

  And, and also like, we know we wouldn't go online and write something like that. Therefore, what they're going through, they need prayer.

• 30:27Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 30:28Speaker 01

  Like, you're not happy. And like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you know, so you take, pinch your soul. Yes. You know?

• 30:36Speaker 03

  And we're also like, we're not done. Like, it's too early for us to be taking-

• 30:40Speaker 01

  Give us a sec.

• 30:41Speaker 03

  Do you know what I mean?

• 30:41Speaker 01

  It's still marinating.

• 30:43Speaker 03

  It's premature.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  We have like, conversations amongst, like, first of all, we know each other's strengths. We know each other's weaknesses. I wouldn't call them weaknesses, I'd call them challenges.

• 30:56Speaker 01

  I wouldn't even, just things.

• 30:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. Okay, just things that aren't strengths.

• 31:03Speaker 03

  And, yeah, like, we know, we're very self-aware, and we're, like, we're, we're working hard.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:09Speaker 03

  You know, we're working hard to like, improve on all of the things that like, we're not happy with within ourselves. And that's really all we can do.

• 31:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:18Speaker 03

  And we're happy to do that, that's like, kind of like, one of the best parts.

• 31:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:22Speaker 03

  Especially when it comes to like, live, watching our live vocals improve.

• 31:28Keke Palmer?

  I've always felt that you guys have been good from the beginning, I'll be honest with you. When I first, you know what I mean? It, it, I really truly did. There's been moments with people where you're like, oh, they need some, but I felt like everything with you guys has been a consistent growth moment. And from the beginning, it was like, okay, they can sing, they came to sing, we locked in. So, you know, fabulous.

• 31:45Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 31:46Keke Palmer?

  Bringing us to the Grammy nomination. Guys, what was it like to be, I mean, you are the first British girl group nominated in 20 years.

• 31:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, crazy.

• 31:57Keke Palmer?

  That's kind of like crazy. What were you thinking when you guys got that nomination? Tell me where you were, like, what was it about?

• 32:03Speaker 01

  She said shock.

• 32:04Speaker 03

  Shock.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  It was insane.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  Yes, it was.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  We did not expect, we didn't expect it. We actually didn't expect it.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  I had no idea.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  We have no idea. We, um, we weren't together. No, we know. Georgia was going somewhere, right?

• 32:18Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, um-

• 32:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, me and Renee were in the studio.

• 32:21Speaker 03

  And I called them, it's so annoying because they were in my house and I just left. And I'm thinking, well, like, do you know what I mean? But anyways, but I, so I could feel a part of it, I called them to tell them. As opposed to like-

• 32:37Speaker 01

  Someone just telling us.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I still had FOMO. But it was just, just, I know, it's fine. It's fine because, never mind.

• 32:44Speaker 01

  It's gonna happen again. Exactly, right, right, right, right. We really actually didn't even like, wake up and say, this is the nomination day.

• 32:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:52Speaker 01

  Like, it was such a surprise.

• 32:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:54Keke Palmer?

  Wow. And then, did it make you anxious? I know Victoria Monet's actually been talking a lot about winning her Grammy and kind of the after effects of sometimes when you get such these achievements. Because whether you win or whatever, nominated is, you know, it's, it's already a thing. Did it, did you feel that it put any more pressure on you, or?

• 33:12Speaker 03

  I feel like it, if anything, it put more of a pep in our step. Because we, to some extent, we thought we were gonna win because it felt like we could win this.

• 33:21Keke Palmer?

  For sure.

• 33:22Speaker 03

  But then, it was, it was humbling for us to remember that you have to work extremely hard and it takes mu- multiple years for you to clear the Grammys, like. So to even be there after our first album is enough, you know?

• 33:36Keke Palmer?

  And to be acknowledged, to be seen. There's a lot of music that comes out, as we all know.

• 33:39Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 33:40Keke Palmer?

  That doesn't even get a chance to even be submitted or seen. So it's definitely next level. Who did win?

• 33:45Speaker 01

  Duran.

• 33:46Keke Palmer?

  And he's been around for a long time. We do, yeah, yeah.

• 33:49Speaker 01

  Well deserved.

• 33:50Keke Palmer?

  But also, it's kind of like, what's with y'all categories? Because why me and Duran in the same one?

• 33:54Speaker 03

  Well, it was-

• 33:55Speaker 01

  It was progressive R and B.

• 33:57Speaker 03

  I think we have a bit more, we have a bit more-

• 33:59Speaker 01

  Listen, categories these days, I couldn't tell you. No, the group categories is where they get you.

• 34:04Keke Palmer?

  That doesn't make much sense.

• 34:06Speaker 03

  Yeah. I think, and this is another thing as well, I think across most awards, all award shows, like, obviously, I don't want to get in like, to it too much because we're always grateful for a nomination.

• 34:18Keke Palmer?

  Of course, of course.

• 34:18Speaker 03

  But like-

• 34:19Keke Palmer?

  Being critical but respectfully.

• 34:20Speaker 03

  There's definitely inconsistencies when it comes to categories in England, over here, like, everywhere. And I think that that is a big reason why we don't put a lot of pressure on ourselves when it comes to these things. Because we've, we've rea- like, we've seen people that we thought deserved to win lose. So, you know, there's always a level of, if you win, it's nice, but if you don't win, just remember that.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  It's not the be all and end all.

• 34:52Speaker 03

  It's kind of a bit of like, a whole-

• 34:54Speaker 01

  Politics.

• 34:55Speaker 03

  It is a lot involved.

• 34:56Keke Palmer?

  Lot of different steps. What would you say that you define success by? Like, would it be, um, have, making sure that your tours are sold out? Would it be people listening to the music and streaming? Like, what, what, what are the things where you're like, as long as we're X, Y, and Z, I'm happy? And it might be different for all of you.

• 35:12Speaker 03

  I think it's real life stuff.

• 35:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:14Speaker 03

  Like, the fans and the community we make. And when people come to us and say, you like, you changed my life, like, you saved me in this way.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, just interactions and live shows. Because live shows are just the best.

• 35:27Speaker 01

  There's nothing like it.

• 35:28Speaker 03

  Oh, also, like, live shows make a lot of the money as well. So it's like a fair kind of, it's like a real in-person moment where you're with everyone. And it's also one of the things that make a lot of money too. So I definitely think that that, because you know, at the end of the day, money is like, it's important.

• 35:47Keke Palmer?

  Yeah. It's great that you guys like to tour because for any artist, I always say, that's really what I, I, I've always decis- defined success for myself by continuity. If I can continue to do something.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:59Keke Palmer?

  And if I can continue to go on tour, sell out shows, make that, then I can continue because people are buying in and I'm able to continue to invest and continue on. And so, I think, you know, the fact that, but it's also one of the hardest things to do. So the fact that you guys can get up, go, be ready on the road, hit it and do your thing, that's like, hats off to you. It takes a lot of discipline, it's not easy. Um, okay, what is the craziest tour story that you actually can share?

• 36:22Speaker 03

  Okay, this is another one of like-

• 36:25Keke Palmer?

  The ones that people do. [BLEEP] this question. We're moving on.

• 36:28Speaker 01

  We need to like, do more crazies.

• 36:29Keke Palmer?

  That's also crazy. Like, it is ridiculous. Who did this?

• 36:33Speaker 03

  Oh, because we don't have an answer. I think, but there's one, I, I can give you like, a beautiful moment. It's not crazy.

• 36:41Speaker 01

  She don't want it.

• 36:42Keke Palmer?

  We don't [BLEEP] need it. Well, tell me about that mechanical bull ride with Kalani.

• 36:46Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, I lost my nail.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was intense.

• 36:50Keke Palmer?

  Was that a first? Mechanical bull moment? Do y'all do that in, in London?

• 36:54Speaker 03

  No.

• 36:55Keke Palmer?

  Oh, it's not, it's an American thing. I guess because we're the cowboys.

• 36:58Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 36:58Keke Palmer?

  Okay.

• 36:59Speaker 01

  It was really fun though, like, we, we were drunk.

• 37:02Speaker 03

  Probably like, 20 seconds.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  You just gave us our answer.

• 37:06Speaker 03

  Honestly, I love that.

• 37:07Speaker 01

  That's a good interview.

• 37:10Keke Palmer?

  What about this? What about?

• 37:14Keke Palmer?

  I'm a fine size, I can't let my girls down. I can't let my girls down.

• 37:16Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 37:17Keke Palmer?

  Okay, had to be on point for you. So yeah, that's interesting. First mechanical bull ride with Kay Lani, she's a lot of fun.

• 37:24Speaker 03

  Yes, love her.

• 37:24Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, cool. Great, we'll be moving on. In The Guardian, 2023.

• 37:31Speaker 01

  Uh-oh.

• 37:32Keke Palmer?

  You said, coming in as a girl group, a black girl group, we have to kick the door down. We can't afford to be half-assed. They really spelled it Britishly, A R S E.

• 37:41Speaker 03

  Yes, half-assed.

• 37:42Keke Palmer?

  So when you say kick the door down, I mean, what were the actual doors for you? And I say it specifically because as a black woman, we all have our, you know, we're not a monolith. So what we feel like we are up against is, is unique to all of us. So for y'all, what were your major things? And then, the black British of it all, as opposed to the black American of it all?

• 37:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:00Keke Palmer?

  I-

• 38:07Speaker 03

  I'll be quick. Um, I think it was really just about the relationship we had going on with the label. That was definitely our initial, like, issue in the beginning. It's like definitely grown leaps and bounds like where we are now. But rewind, uh, it was like really hard. And I think it was just balancing the fact that we were young and lacked experience in the industry. But we also had really strong opinions. So trying to make sure our opinions and like our desires were being met. But whilst also kind of having to be like the three black girls, young black girls

• 38:51Speaker 03

  that didn't really know what we were talking about.

• 38:55Keke Palmer?

  Or didn't know how to speak the language of the industry, even though you knew exactly what the culture would desire from you as a group.

• 39:00Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 39:00Keke Palmer?

  It's a very hard combination, you know, code switching and learning the language, but not letting the language define your artistry. You're not being, you know.

• 39:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a balancing act.

• 39:10Speaker 01

  That was literally my answer. I think, I think it's like.

• 39:14Keke Palmer?

  She was giving you a high five.

• 39:16Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 39:16Speaker 03

  Did you think I was giving it?

• 39:17Keke Palmer?

  She gave, yeah, she thought it was that.

• 39:20Keke Palmer?

  Very weird what you did when we were on Baby This is Keke Palmer earlier. Why the hand?

• 39:25Speaker 01

  No, yes, oh, true. It's like, I think people seeing our passion as a passion and not as we're saying you're wrong and you're against us, you know? It's like, we actually all have the same goal here. But I think that's also been for us to learn.

• 39:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  You know, how to really be respected. But yeah, in that way, you have to, you have to learn their language and speak their language for them to. You have to make them feel special in a lot of ways as well.

• 39:56Keke Palmer?

  Yes, you do.

• 39:57Speaker 01

  Chess, checkers.

• 39:58Speaker 03

  There was also that like whole, like, we don't want to be perceived as like angry and aggressive. I'll be honest, personally, I didn't care. I was just willing to do that because I'm just like, this is what we're not gonna do right now. We're not gonna do that right now.

• 40:14Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 40:15Speaker 03

  So if that's what has to be done, that's what has to be done. And there's, there's been like a lot of having to kind of undo, but it was worth it. It was so worth it.

• 40:24Keke Palmer?

  Yeah. Anything you want to add. You don't have to. I just wanted to make sure you're checking in.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  I feel like perception and identity, not necessarily with the industry, but with like fans and people that look at us was something that took a long time to figure out and develop. And was always kind of like in the back of my mind, like, cause you know, people see a group and they put all their opinions on it. Um, but it's just something that evolved with time because we couldn't really base us, ourselves on other groups. Like people would always be like, who is Flo? Like, and we were just. We're just figuring it out.

• 41:00Speaker 03

  It's us.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  It's us, right?

• 41:02Keke Palmer?

  On the album.

• 41:03Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 41:03Keke Palmer?

  That's Flo.

• 41:05Speaker 02

  Thank you. But yeah, that was definitely something that took a while and we're still figuring it out, but we're in a better place now.

• 41:12Keke Palmer?

  Who do you think people want, and maybe you don't know, but who do you think people wanted Flo to be?

• 41:16Speaker 03

  I think, I think there were, obviously there was like a lot of Destiny's Child comparisons. But then that was also like hard for.

• 41:27Keke Palmer?

  I mean, come on, Destiny's Child.

• 41:28Speaker 03

  It's like the biggest compliment ever, but then at the same time, there was definitely a, you know, there was a very clear, like, dynamic between that group, which we didn't want anything to do with. And also again, like, I mean, they was dancing, they were singing, like, we still have like a long way to go before we reach like that standard, which we are, you know, working towards. So that was kind of, but no, we never like, we never hate to be compared to them.

• 41:58Speaker 01

  No.

• 41:58Keke Palmer?

  Yeah. You're just saying that people kind of didn't have a reference of a North Star. So they chose the highest one that is obviously remarkable and great, but also different from you guys as well. And you know, you're comparing me to somebody that's been around for 30 years. We just coming up. So I totally get that. I really do. And it's like the British of it all, right? I feel like, I mean, I know a couple of artists, you know what I'm saying? But I feel like the, how much do you feel like it's your duty to bring that representation into your music? Or do you feel it at all? You know, cause pref, cause music influence is music influence. I don't know how much you feel influenced by the British R and B scene or not.

• 42:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, we're definitely more influenced by the American, just because there's more of it and it's incredible. It started over here, but we love being British.

• 42:41Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  And there are girl groups and, you know, Spice Girls.

• 42:45Keke Palmer?

  I mean, Spice Girls for sure. I love Spice Girls, you know? I love, um, you know, my man Craig David. Okay, Craig David. I mean, he's great, you know what I mean? But I always ask that when I think about the diaspora. It's like all of our different influences and how we all feel heavy to represent it in our, in our, in our work, you know?

• 43:03Speaker 01

  I think it helps because we're British, like a bit different.

• 43:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, like that's definitely the thing we love the most about kind of like British music is the authenticity that like came with it. That is, I think, where we try and like channel our Britishism by just being like ourselves. Authentic, yeah.

• 43:30Keke Palmer?

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• 44:15Keke Palmer?

  Fruit of the Loom is the one I already made. Comfortable, reliable, completely off my mental checklist. The fit doesn't shift and the fabric doesn't fight me. It just lets me do what I do. The most powerful pieces in any ensemble are the ones that elevate without competing. And when something supports you that effortlessly, you stop searching and you start trusting. It becomes the easy choice, not because it's basic, because it's exactly right. One less thing to figure out, one decision you never have to second guess about. Fruit of the Loom proves that simple feels really good. So I need to talk about something that has been taking up a lot of my mental real estate lately. It started casual. I just stopped in, wasn't even planning on it.

• 45:00Keke Palmer?

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• 45:40Keke Palmer?

  You guys have already had love from people like Brandy, Missy Elliott, Kelly Rowland, uh, JoJo, SZA, I mean, the list goes on. And Missy actually jumped on Fly Girl, which was crazy. Who is a dream collaborator that you think could usher in a new era of Flo? Or just, you know, give you guys a little something different that you never did before?

• 46:01Speaker 02

  Something different. Well, I feel like Brandy would give us something real.

• 46:06Speaker 01

  We have to take that off.

• 46:08Speaker 03

  This is giving me like day, day, day 200 of asking Brandy.

• 46:11Keke Palmer?

  Brandy, please, but that would be an easily thing.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  Yes, like I feel like it would be a really elevated flow song.

• 46:18Speaker 01

  Like, we just have to.

• 46:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:21Keke Palmer?

  I would love to see all Brandy.

• 46:22Speaker 02

  That's definitely a dream.

• 46:22Speaker 03

  Even if it doesn't come out, I just, I just, we could learn so much.

• 46:26Keke Palmer?

  I would love to drink, the dream to pin something for y'all.

• 46:28Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  Yes, yes. We've been trying to get in with the dream for a minute as well.

• 46:33Keke Palmer?

  I think that would be sickening. I would love to, love to see that. Y'all in the dream would give me some excitement.

• 46:41Keke Palmer?

  Um, okay, so, I mean, you kind of already said this, I was gonna bring this up, but you kind of already said where you don't have this issue with letting your confidence lead. Because I think sometimes, especially as black women and as women in general, everything can immediately be seen as arrogant. If you're just trying to be confident and bring it to the table. But I know Georgia, you said like, I don't mind being that person and wearing that, that mask if that's what it's gonna have to take. And so I imagine that's kind of how you guys all feel.

• 47:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, I think confidence and arrogance, like there's a very fine line. And I think the line is not so fine when you're not white. That makes sense. Yeah. Like, cause we are confident and like maybe sometimes that is a bit of arrogance. But I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

• 47:25Speaker 03

  It's nothing to do with comparing.

• 47:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's not that we think we're better than anybody. Like, it really isn't. It's just, we've also seen how much we've grown and we know what we have in our back pocket. Like, we really, we're proud of us.

• 47:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's full.

• 47:40Speaker 01

  Like, you know, so it's not arrogance, but I, you, you have to, you have to know you're the [BLEEP].

• 47:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:48Speaker 01

  To get someone.

• 47:48Speaker 03

  Otherwise, how's anyone else gonna believe that?

• 47:50Speaker 01

  Believe it.

• 47:51Keke Palmer?

  Oh, I absolutely love that. Let's talk about your second album, Therapy in the Club. Therapy at the Club, excuse me. I love the title.

• 47:57Speaker 03

  We have the same issue.

• 47:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:59Keke Palmer?

  You'd be like Therapy in the Club too. It's Therapy at the Club, which is grammatically correct.

• 48:04Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 48:04Keke Palmer?

  I may never know. But as we all know, the club will very much turn therapy real quick. What are the different ways that the club has turned into therapy for y'all? Like, have y'all been in there being like, come on, girl, let's get it together? Have you run into an ex or a type of a situation? Like, what are your, are you even in the club?

• 48:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:22Keke Palmer?

  You know what I mean? Or were you just doing this fantasy?

• 48:24Speaker 03

  It's another fantasy, honestly.

• 48:26Speaker 02

  No, this one's real. I feel like every time I go to the club, it's therapy. Like, there's a different thing to overcome or to just like, I've, I either need a pep talk or I need to find somebody or I need to have a fun night with my girls. Or I'm in the bathroom and I need somebody to help me get it together.

• 48:45Keke Palmer?

  Okay.

• 48:46Speaker 02

  Every single time, don't know what to expect.

• 48:48Keke Palmer?

  I feel like if I'm going to the club, I'm already in need of therapy. Cause that's the only reason I'm going. I don't really go to the club to have fun. I go to the club to forget that life hasn't been fun, to be quite honest.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  You're definitely. Thank you.

• 49:00Keke Palmer?

  She said, thank you for that plug.

• 49:04Speaker 02

  I would say that, um, for me, I find that going to the club, there's almost like no consequences. Like, I think outside of the club, I can really struggle with.

• 49:20Speaker 03

  Confrontation, like as in confronting my feelings. But in the club, once.

• 49:27Speaker 02

  Bit loose.

• 49:28Speaker 03

  Bit loose, a little bit loose. I'll be telling everyone the things I don't like about them. In a respectful way, but I'll be like, yeah, like, you know, like.

• 49:39Keke Palmer?

  I know that's right.

• 49:40Speaker 03

  Cause it's just way more like lighthearted in that situation. And I feel like I know there's one hundred percent gonna be resolved after it. Because in the club, how can we, we can't argue in the club.

• 49:51Keke Palmer?

  So you know when I stopped hating you? I never knew you did. You know what I mean? That's too funny. So do you guys feel very British in that you like a little drink? Cause one thing I do love when I go to London is that they're not afraid to have a drink or two.

• 50:04Speaker 02

  Oh, we love a drink.

• 50:05Speaker 03

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 50:06Keke Palmer?

  I just got a drink for y'all right now.

• 50:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:08Speaker 01

  Honestly, when we, when I found out that it was a ten thirty, I was like sad, like we can't really drink it up at ten.

• 50:15Keke Palmer?

  Oh, girl, we need to have a cocktail or two.

• 50:18Speaker 03

  Off the camera.

• 50:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:19Keke Palmer?

  I'm here for that.

• 50:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 50:21Keke Palmer?

  Cause girl likes to.

• 50:24Keke Palmer?

  Okay, so what can we tell the fans to expect for this new era in this new album, Flo?

• 50:32Speaker 03

  Well, hard work.

• 50:33Speaker 02

  Hard work.

• 50:34Speaker 01

  We're taking things very seriously. Like, we really assessed the last album and what didn't work.

• 50:40Speaker 03

  What went well, even better if.

• 50:42Speaker 01

  Yes, um, we did some P E E analysis, like, right? Yeah.

• 50:48Speaker 02

  Point evidence explained.

• 50:50Keke Palmer?

  Oh, I love that. Did you have any moments where you went back to some of the team members that gave you push and were like, maybe y'all were right about some things? Or were they wrong about everything?

• 50:57Speaker 03

  Um, there was a lot of different opinions, even within our team.

• 51:02Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 51:02Speaker 03

  Everyone's so opinionated, which is really good because we like opinions, how are we gonna make a decision? But it was hard because we were all so kind of divided at times in our thoughts. But like Stella said, point evidence explained, like, a good P E E will change everyone's mind.

• 51:22Speaker 01

  Yes, and there's proof in the pudding.

• 51:24Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  Like, we really all can see now.

• 51:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:27Speaker 01

  Like, we wanted to do a lot of stuff after the album, like acoustic things, more videos, and it just didn't happen. But I think now, the last album.

• 51:35Keke Palmer?

  Okay, get you, get you.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  So now we know how to like plan ahead, like we really have the whole year planned.

• 51:40Speaker 03

  Distribute budget.

• 51:41Speaker 01

  Yes. And like, even, yeah, like where are we putting money?

• 51:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:45Speaker 01

  Like, what, we need to really get into the details so that everything's pulled off.

• 51:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:49Speaker 01

  So.

• 51:50Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my gosh, I love that, you guys, cause that's really like, and it, and it's hard to be like, damn, you have to think about that. But we have to tell people, like, when somebody wants to be a pop star, when somebody wants to be an artist, like, you also have to be a business person. You must know what you're working with and how to actually properly distribute your money. And like you said, P E E, know what money actually is gonna make money come back in. Cause a lot of times you think it's like, we need more music videos, like actually you need more shows. Or it's like, we need more X, Y, and Z, actually you need more about it. You know, so it's like, that's, I just love that because you save yourself so much time and so much people coming after you for the money you didn't give them back.

• 52:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:26Speaker 01

  Which is a mess.

• 52:27Speaker 02

  Not yet, no, we're in a good place.

• 52:29Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, we're, you know, we're definitely like in the red, but like, who isn't?

• 52:34Keke Palmer?

  No, it definitely is. You always are.

• 52:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, and we're definitely like, we we just need to keep going.

• 52:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:43Keke Palmer?

  A bit more money, please.

• 52:46Keke Palmer?

  They honestly like to give you more money, cause they're like, now they're with us forever.

• 52:49Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 52:50Keke Palmer?

  They're like, how about twenty million?

• 52:54Speaker 01

  We haven't, we haven't even gotten there.

• 52:55Keke Palmer?

  You'll be like fifty, like, we still working on Flo album fifty-five.

• 53:01Keke Palmer?

  Literally.

• 53:03Speaker 03

  But as long as we have many remix albums, can we? As long as like we are happy, then I'll be honest, we don't really like, it's nothing.

• 53:15Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 53:15Speaker 03

  You know?

• 53:16Keke Palmer?

  It's a business.

• 53:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:17Keke Palmer?

  You know what I mean? Good days, bad days, whatever, it's continuity, sustainability. As long as we're able to keep on going, we're done, we're good. Okay, let's talk about Leak It, because, you know, you guys are R and B group, but this leaned a little bit more pop and it gave a little like, you know, and it grabbed a different kind of attention, you know? So did it make you guys be like, well, let's lean more into that pop bag? Or were you kind of like, no, no, no, we did that once, we wanna rein it in and make sure we stay true to our core?

• 53:41Speaker 02

  Well, I think we'll be true to our core with any type of genre of song that we do. Cause it's all about how we sing it and the harmonies and the group element. But this Leak It reflected like a time of pop that we loved. When like people were making pop music and singing down and like, there's not too much of that nowadays. So we were just kind of like, why, why can't we?

• 54:01Keke Palmer?

  Like shade.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  Such disdain. There's not too much of that nowadays. But like, we absolutely can, so why not?

• 54:08Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:09Speaker 03

  We also like, I think, I mean, me personally, I don't really look at us and think we're an R and B group, if I'm completely honest. I think the songs of ours that performed the best are all pop.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  Cobblebox, Walk Like This, I mean, Lowkey Fly Girl, In My Bag, like, I think it's very to say that we're just an R and B girl group is.

• 54:40Speaker 01

  Why, why are you guys saying that?

• 54:41Speaker 03

  I think it's.

• 54:42Speaker 01

  I think we all know.

• 54:43Speaker 03

  Because of the shade of our skin. And, yeah, I just think that we, we wanna take up the.

• 54:53Speaker 02

  The whole, yeah, the whole space.

• 54:54Speaker 03

  The whole space.

• 54:55Keke Palmer?

  You're a hit music group.

• 54:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:57Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 54:57Speaker 03

  Right. Well, that's what we're striving to be.

• 54:59Speaker 02

  Yes, I think it's, I think like at the beginning of our journey, we wanted to be like known as an R and B group. We don't want people to think that we just make, I don't know, we wanted people to know, we make R and B music.

• 55:10Speaker 03

  We're music, we're feeling, we love.

• 55:12Keke Palmer?

  It's like how I think about Janet Jackson, like Janet Jackson is a pop artist, you know what I mean? But she's black and we live for her sister down, and she give us R and B arrangements when we need them, but it's at the end of the day, like, she's a pop star, so, and I really live for when I get to see us in those spaces. Like, I love the pop star vibe. Like, there's nothing I love more. It's given Brittany Houston. So it's like, I need that vibe. And so I love, I totally agree with you guys, and I know it's not any shade to any genre, but it's this idea that like, we're taking up all space by being a great group and bringing great music, so. Um, you know, but maybe if you, if you actually gave us Tin Hut. Then there would be no problem.

• 55:50Speaker 01

  God, the archives.

• 55:51Speaker 02

  You know what's so funny though, is that conversation comes up all the time. We tried, we really tried with that song.

• 55:58Speaker 03

  We're like, not even trying to prepare anyone for that.

• 56:01Speaker 01

  Honestly.

• 56:02Keke Palmer?

  I love that.

• 56:03Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 56:05Keke Palmer?

  Gotcha, just a little razzle-dazzle.

• 56:07Speaker 03

  I'm like sweating off of that.

• 56:08Speaker 02

  Where did you hear that song?

• 56:09Keke Palmer?

  Honestly, don't worry about it. Hello, Lanike.

• 56:15Keke Palmer?

  I have spies. And I said the girls are coming to the show, what should I ask them?

• 56:22Keke Palmer?

  And I'm actually really sad because we're running out of time.

• 56:24Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 56:26Keke Palmer?

  This is really, really sad.

• 56:27Speaker 03

  We need to extend a bit.

• 56:28Keke Palmer?

  I'm gonna ask you guys one more question and then we're gonna do a game.

• 56:30Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 56:31Keke Palmer?

  And then we're probably gonna go get drinks. No, um, okay, so you know, to the fans that are watching, it could be guys, girls, thems, they's, anybody that, you know, looks up to you guys or just loves you as a group. What would you say to them? Like, if there's like a, a mission statement for Flo, like as, as your girls, what would you say? Or what do you wanna say to them?

• 56:50Speaker 03

  Hang in there.

• 56:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, thank you for hanging in there with us.

• 56:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. First and foremost, thank you for believing in us. We really needed your support and to spread the.

• 57:02Speaker 01

  Ray, don't give me that.

• 57:03Speaker 02

  Oh, thank you.

• 57:09Speaker 02

  You know, we couldn't have done it without you, like, a big part of Flo is our fanbase. So we are in this position because of you guys.

• 57:17Speaker 03

  Me with my sound.

• 57:17Speaker 02

  Continue to spread the word and spread the mission, guys. We need to become the biggest girl group of our generation. We need to go down.

• 57:27Keke Palmer?

  Thank you for already letting us become.

• 57:29Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 57:30Speaker 03

  That's nice.

• 57:31Speaker 01

  Thank you for giving us the space to do that. Thank you for supporting, even, even if sometimes you don't love something, like you still love us through it.

• 57:41Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 57:41Speaker 01

  We appreciate that.

• 57:43Keke Palmer?

  They letting y'all be you.

• 57:44Speaker 03

  Yes, thank you. Letting us explore, experiment, like, it's such a journey. And I feel like there's never, we've got very forgiving, just a forgiving community.

• 57:57Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 57:57Speaker 03

  You know?

• 57:58Keke Palmer?

  They giving you space.

• 57:59Speaker 03

  That's nice, because we be forgiving some of y'all.

• 58:04Speaker 03

  Lest we forget.

• 58:06Keke Palmer?

  Come on, Catherine Corn. Okay. So I love to play a game with all my guests. I'm gonna take you guys down memory lane of some R and B girl groups that have, you know, possibly inspired you, and I know y'all be doing y'all homework, but I'm gonna read a lyric from a classic nineties or two thousands girl group. And you're gonna, you know, let me know what your group is. But honestly, I feel like you guys are gonna get this so easy in this act. Tried to make it hard, but it was really hard to make it hard. So, here we go.

• 58:30Speaker 01

  You're gonna say that, cause if we do badly, it's embarrassing.

• 58:35Keke Palmer?

  Hanging out the passenger side of his best friend's ride.

• 58:37Speaker 03

  Trying to holler at me, T O C.

• 58:40Keke Palmer?

  She was like, you know, you're so excited that you say the wrong.

• 58:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:43Keke Palmer?

  But you know, but you know what it is. I, I saw you, you know, I felt you. She knew, she knew that song.

• 58:49Speaker 03

  She did.

• 58:49Keke Palmer?

  Okay, cause my heart starts beating triple time with thoughts of loving you on my mind.

• 58:53Speaker 01

  On my mind.

• 58:54Keke Palmer?

  And I can't figure out just what.

• 58:57Speaker 02

  To do when the cause and cure is you.

• 59:01Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  I get so weak in the knees, I can hardly.

• 59:07Keke Palmer?

  You guys are crying.

• 59:14Keke Palmer?

  That's just why they gave me the most life, girl, please. Oh, my gosh, okay. Never gonna get it.

• 59:23Speaker 02

  Never gonna get it, never gonna get it, never gonna get it.

• 59:26Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my God. Yes. Y'all never gonna say their name?

• 59:31Speaker 03

  I don't know their name if I'm completely honest.

• 59:35Keke Palmer?

  Anybody? No, I was gonna give you a hint.

• 59:43Keke Palmer?

  It's like throwback, throwback. Vogue-ing. On Vogue.

• 59:48Speaker 03

  That was good.

• 59:49Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, y'all.

• 59:49Speaker 03

  That was good.

• 59:50Keke Palmer?

  But they are one of those groups sometimes when we know their songs too much, and then you can be like, ah, ah. Yeah. Okay, here we go. Kick off your shoes and relax your feet.

• 1:00:00Keke Palmer?

  Kick off your shoes and relax your feet. It's not, um. Kick off your shoes, relax your feet. Okay, to you.

• 1:00:08Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:00:08Keke Palmer?

  But you sound so right. The way, this is y'all in the studio, because the way that you found a hook for that, kick off your shoes, relax your feet. Like, that was, you need to keep that in your back pocket. It's, um, kick off your shoes and relax your feet, come on and party to the escape, peaches kicking, just kicking it. Y'all don't know them. So that's Candy, y'all know Candy from how? Escape. Escape, boom. An icon.

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  You could have picked a different escape.

• 1:00:36Keke Palmer?

  I know, I was trying to make, I told you I was trying to make. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, last one. We moonwalk the foxtrot, then poke the salsa. And I wasn't familiar with this with them, so maybe I should try to give you another one of them. Because I, when I read it, I said, ah, wait a minute. Okay, let me give you another one, but it's gonna be that same group, hold on, um.

• 1:00:55Keke Palmer?

  Because everything is such a hit with them.

• 1:00:58Speaker 03

  You can go from like a second verse.

• 1:01:01Keke Palmer?

  So here's a story from A to Z. So here's a story from A to Z.

• 1:01:05Speaker 02

  You wanna get with me, you better listen to me. I'm in a space, I'm lost, and I never take a chance. You're like MC, I'm lost, and I'm easy, easy, and I'm on the main. She's a real lady. And now you'll see, slammy body down, I want you all around. Slammy body down, I want you all around, ay, my lover.

• 1:01:22Keke Palmer?

  Oh, I loved that song. What does that song even mean? You know how you start that?

• 1:01:29Speaker 02

  If you wanna be my lover, you gotta have got to give. Taking is too easy, but that's the way it is. So when you think about that, how you know how I feel?

• 1:01:41Keke Palmer?

  What a tune. Guys, that was a huge hit.

• 1:01:43Speaker 03

  That's such a good song.

• 1:01:44Keke Palmer?

  And thanks to you guys, we get more British girl groups. Yes. I really have enjoyed spending time with you ladies. You absolutely bring the flow. Okay. Now you can stop. The punch is actually killing me. Okay, hi.

• 1:02:04Keke Palmer?

  This conversation right here is why I do the podcast. Real women, real friendship, and a direction, okay? It is easy to look at a group like Flow and only see the success. What I've heard today is something much deeper, okay? They are focused. I heard three young women who have figured out how to hold on to each other and what they did this for. Because the truth is, talent might get people's attention, but trust, purpose, and sisterhood is what can keep a group together. Flow is not just making music, okay? They are creating a blueprint. A blueprint that says, we don't have to compete to be successful. And that friendship and vulnerability aren't weaknesses. That's a message any of us could take right now. I'll see you next time on Baby, this is Keke Palmer.