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  What's up, everybody, guys? Before we start this episode, we have a really exciting thing coming up on our Patreon. I recently lost a bet and had to write a musical in an entire day. And that musical happened to have to be about Lemon de Lemon, the guy who introduced vanilla to Hollywood, a Jeremy character from the 200-person panel. And now we're gonna read it live.

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  You know, I actually got one of the free tote bags they had available in the conference room. And I have to confess, the tote is a little bigger than my average tote bag, so I find myself carrying a whole secondary closet with me to work occasionally. I think it's, they're quite dandy. Did you get one?

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  I certainly did get one.

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  Have you brought it to the farmer's market?

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  You know, I have brought it to the farmer's market.

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  Did you get one more avocado than normal?

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  You know, it definitely made me a little bit freer with the spending, to be honest.

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  Probably now some room for the more, the more robust charred. It's probably not even poking out of the top.

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  Maybe you could even have a crazy one and get the mango chutney.

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  Oh, there could have been room for that. I must confess, there's a little bit of charred stuck at the bottom of the bag still. So I went this Sunday to Atwater.

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  That's going to wilt. That's going to wilt.

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  You've got to take that charred out and get into the fridge or maybe clean it up with some water, I would say.

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  Baking soda?

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  Yeah, maybe some baking soda.

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  You know, I just read a really interesting article that said charred is actually more acidic than we think it is. It's a much-

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  Really?

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  Yeah. We understand most vegetables are base, but charred is one of the acidic ones, so.

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  Well, I'll definitely be thinking twice the next time I put it in my minestrone.

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  Interesting.

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  I love a minestrone.

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  Nothing more than, better than, you know, reminds me of when Grandma used to make minestrone when I was young. She had a very specific recipe. She's a Russian-Lithuanian, moved and migrated here. My parents did, and so she followed them. And, you know, she still takes the country, Lithuania. Every time I saw her, I always was wondering, what is this about her? And I recently took a trip to Lithuania, and I realized so much of my life was Lithuanian because of my grandma.

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  Wow, your grandma's Lithuanian minestrone. That's interesting.

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  I think what's so funny about our culture is that sometimes you'll be sipping on a bowl of minestrone. And in a way, that's a bowl of your culture.

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  You're sipping on history.

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  I don't know if you guys have read this recent book about the minestrone index.

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  I love the minestrone index.

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  It's a fantastic look at cultures and diasporas and the way that you can judge a culture based on its minestrone. And they found, in many ways, the ingredients that make up the minestrone reflect the culture itself. And the more ingredients in a minestrone, the more diverse a culture tends to be.

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  Well, in a way, I think that cooking is sort of, it's almost like, I like to say, a font, if you'll allow this metaphor. Because a font is the same word, but typed a slightly different way. And I think with minestrone, we all bring a little piece of ourselves to the table. So I enjoyed that book very much.

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  With the minestrone, it did make me think of a recent purchase I just made from an independent bookstore in the back of an alley in London. And it's the soup tarot cards.

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  Soup tarot cards.

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  And the five of swords. Believe it or not, is a cup of minestrone.

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  Well, I just love it because I recently read a small excerpt in a web magazine I follow called New York New Jork. It's beautiful, kind of indie, and it was talking about the history of tarot cards and how so much medieval culture is actually insinuated in the tarot card. And as much as we try to move into a more Roman Catholic understanding of the world, and now moving past Roman Catholic into agnosticism, we still have Druidic, Celtic, Anglo-Saxon type of ties influenced in tarot.

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  That's very interesting to me because I actually just interviewed a Latinx graffiti artist who just released her own tarot cards. Her name is Maya Ferrika Kayelka.

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  Oh, that's amazing.

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  And she lives in East Los Angeles, and she's making this incredible set of tarot cards that reflect her culture.

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  Well, that's very interesting. I was actually speaking to a, I interviewed for a profile on the streets of Las Vegas, a non-binary magician who is using tarot as, you know, magicians kind of have always taken just the standard deck of playing cards as the titular pick a card. But this artist kind of challenges the notion of that and says, what if we picked a tarot card? What if we challenged the audience members to remember a card from a different time? A different space?

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  Is this your card? Is this your future?

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  That's beautiful. You said challenge, and that made me think of, yesterday, I had a jasmine tea bag, looked at the tea bag, and on the tag of it, it said, "Challenge yourself today." And I think it's funny you brought up the sense and the idea of being challenged within a deck of cards, because like, we talk about culture, and we talk about talking to our ancestors, and how much of that is a challenge? And how much of that is a tea bag?

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  Well, you mentioned ancestor. Well, I was recently in an ancestral ball pit. Have you been to an ancestral ball pit?

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  This is interesting.

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  This is a new pop of the topic.

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  They have these in small cultures, right?

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  Ancestral ball pit in Hancock Park.

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  Yes, it's an ancestral ball pit.

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  And it's sort of like imagining it's it's done by a former employee of the former designer of the McDonald's play place.

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  Yes, yes.

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  And they've

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  Tragic story. Have you read that book about him?

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  It's an incredible expose.

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  It's really, I mean,

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  It's powerful, incredible, gripping the whole way through.

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  The opioid crisis has affected America in many ways.

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  And in funky ways.

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  And in funky ways, and ball pit designers are not immune to that. And they found themselves struck between the jovial nature of the ball pit and the his ancestral ties to opioids.

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  And that is so interesting for me because I just recently interviewed, yesterday I was interviewing Suki Ojeda, who is a wonderful Japanese artist.

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  A dear friend, a dear friend.

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  And focused on joy and Suki Waterhouse, we kind of had this wonderful debate discussion about is joy appropriative or appreciative?

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  Appropriative.

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  If we celebrate joy in the Japanese classical sense of the word, are we being appropriative with Japanese culture or are we appreciating Japanese culture by ensuing and taking in joy?

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  Have you all ever had an authentic Japanese teabag?

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  I have, of course I have.

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  Yes, yes.

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  It makes you think, how many things are we repurposing as Americans?

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  Yeah.

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  Even down to the water drop.

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  There's this incredible visual artist by the name of Chess Redcorn, and he is, of course, an indigenous artist, and he's a fantastic man. And he is making a lot of incredible visual art, found object art, you know, and he's repurposing those Native Americans that you used to see outside of cigar stores. He's building them out of fast food containers.

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  Interesting.

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  I just, I just read a book on the origins, do you guys remember 10 years ago when LA was littered with those angel statues?

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  Yes.

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  I read a book on a woman who made it her mission to visit each. And while she made it her mission during

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  She's a good friend of mine, yeah.

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  Really? During that journey, yes, her name is Bethany.

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  Bethany.

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  During that journey, she lost her mother.

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  Yeah.

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  So the book is this beautiful coffee table book, and it's pictures of each of the angels. And halfway through, it's a beautiful rest and reflection on loss. And then she goes right back into the angel statues. And I find that when someone makes a piece of art and something happens to them in their life in the middle of making a piece of art, I find that rich, rich in nutrients.

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  The context of an art really

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  And the change.

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  Yes, it changes the meaning of the art. And it's, it's interesting, I was talking to this painter who has been painting old toilet paper squares.

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  Amazing.

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  And they have been recontextualizing this toilet paper square to

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  American or American toilet paper?

• 12:32Speaker 07

  Yes, but Appalachian, a deep Appalachian.

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  I expected.

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  A deep Appalachian artist who has these toilet paper squares, and they have been insulating their home with them now because it is not just the paintings that we paint for aesthetics, right, it's also the paintings we paint to recontextualize our home.

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  We talk about the home, you know, I don't know if you guys were, you guys read Roxanne's, Roxanne Gay's new book about home?

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  Yes.

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  And of course, we love Roxanne Gay.

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  I've read a few excerpts and I haven't dived in fully.

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  It's a beautiful book.

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  And the concept of home, I mean, the concept of home, what is it and what are we and where are we when we are home? And how home can feel so alien to so many people.

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  And I actually, you know, that's so beautiful because the Moka is doing a beautiful exhibit on the African diaspora.

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  Curated that, yeah.

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  Are you curated that?

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  Oh, you curated that.

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  I'm a friend of the person who curated that.

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  Amazing.

• 13:29Speaker 07

  Oh, but you, it's interesting that you claimed that you curated it.

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  Yeah, because, well, I, talking about that, I read a Facebook post the other day about how sometimes friendship can be stronger than what you do in the new world, in internet world. Sometimes you can feel, the brain feels that you've done something, even when you're seeing a friend do it online.

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  Well, that's home, right?

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  You get the same type of endorphins, your brain will release it.

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  Yes, there's a Siberian, Siberian psychologist who talks about a

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  What's her name?

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  Yoko Ono?

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  Yes.

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  And they have

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  That's one word, though.

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  Yeah, Yoko Ono. And they talk about the, the, the value and the importance of weak ties, right? The weak ties, the, the mailman that you say hi to, the grocer that you say hi to, the, the woman pushing her cart around at the same time that you are pushing your baby. It's these structures that sort of create the fabric of human existence and create the fabric of connection.

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  You know, I just feel like I've been attacked, right? Where you guys were talking about I claimed credit, you know?

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  Well, you said that you had curated it.

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  Yeah, I just

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  And then it was your friend.

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  I just, please don't scream at me. I was, you know, simply enacting something that people have been calling cyberosmosis. And cyberosmosis is the act of absorbing something from the internet into your own psyche because what's happening is we used to be output, output, output, and now the internet has shifted to be input, input, input.

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  Wow, that's fascinating.

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  It happens, it's a natural reoccurring phenomenon, and many people are saying it's an evolutionary trait. So if I were to steal something from the internet, some scientists are saying that is your body evolving to the current state of what's going on.

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  Well, I have heard of, have you seen these Gen Z's that are doing a whole deep dive on what used to be the ice bucket challenge?

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  Yeah.

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  And the way that their site, what, what was the word, cyber, cybermosis?

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  Cyberosmosis.

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  Cyberosmosis-ing it. And I think that's fascinating because it reminds me, I drop off my daughter every Saturday morning at an African drum circle.

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  Congratulations.

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  And it, it's, that has been so interesting to see my daughter experience creativity, not cyberly.

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  Yeah.

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  And not through an algorithm. For her to go see a drum circle and, and the way she said, mama, mama, we pass the sound around. And I went, how far off is that from passing with the algorithm sounds?

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  That's so

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  And passing trends around. And I think that's really interesting.

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  And you know, I, I'm, I'm sure you may be aware of this, this, this physical theater piece that is taking place outside of Squirrel Cafe and Virtual Village. And they take, they're trying to bring people from the digital space into the physical space who may not otherwise have access to the physical space. And so they are doing meme theater. So they are reenacting sort of Damn Daniel, Bad News Greg, or Bad Luck Brian per se. I should say Bad Luck Brian. Bad News Greg is what I call my husband sometimes. When he has terrible news, he has a lot of bad news. He's an, he's an environmental scientist.

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  And that must just be every day, bad news.

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  Massive pessimist, Greg.

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  Yeah, and he's a, he's an environmental scientist and a huge pessimist. So sometimes it's hard to filter out what is coming from science and what is sort of his negative outlook on life.

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  It's a chicken or the egg thing. Environmental scientist, pessimist, you don't know why they got into one.

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  No, you don't know which started what.

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  Did they make them a pessimist or did they get into environmental science?

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  I mean, this is so funny. It's like, it reminds me of my husband, who is a big, big, he loves commitment, loves pattern, yet he's a substitute teacher.

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  He doesn't have a place to go every day.

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  Wordless.

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  And you go, how did that happen? The, the natural contradictions that come with our human being and our soul and the job we attach.

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  Yes. It's, it's very similar. You know, I went into a plant-based butcher shop the other day. They were drinking out of Styrofoam cups. And it was an interesting dichotomy because it was, we are preserving the environment because of the meat. You know, we're not eating meat. I'm cutting you this Satan.

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  Is that, is that, this is, this is faux hoagies in Fairfax?

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  Foggies.

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  Foggies?

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  Foggies on Fairfax.

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  I love their 60-day aged tofu that they hang in the back of the store. And if you get it cut off in the beginning of the day, they'll give you a piece that is just right off the.

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  I love shaman. Shaman is delicious.

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  Oh, I went to the Foggies. Foggies, they had that event for the Boys and Girls Club, Foggies and Bogies. And it was that golf day. And I thought that was incredible. And I saw, got to see a lot of kids play golf. And it's something you don't see.

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  I remember seeing a kid make an eagle and then bite into a gigantic tofu hoagie. And I thought, this is the future I want to see.

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  Like, that's, that's impressive.

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  Underprivileged youth golfing and eating plant-based meat.

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  Absolutely.

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  Have you guys been to the, um, the pottery class that is remote and you have to find it?

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  Remote pottery class. Bringing a whole new meaning to the word remote.

• 20:54Speaker 05

  It's called, it's throwaway, right?

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  Throwaway or something like that.

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  Because it's, you're throwing pottery, but it's away.

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  And I've seen kids now start to do this. And it's fun to see the youth experience art that doesn't have a place.

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  It's very exciting to see that, you know?

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  It's interesting how hide and seek can, um, can play a role in the things that we do every day.

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  Hide and seek?

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  It's amazing.

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  Have you guys read that exposé? You, I mean, a good friend of ours who works with us.

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  Oh, of course. We all know them.

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  Derek Blossom.

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  Yeah, Derek Blossom.

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  Derek Blossom.

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  The exposé, when he went undercover as a kid in the hide and seek game.

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  Kid in hide and seek game. And that, that, that is an incredible piece.

• 21:34Speaker 07

  And if you haven't read Derek Blossom's work, I encourage you to check it out. It's really, um, quite, quite remarkable. He found a way to be found in 700 different children's hide and seek games. And he found, sort of as an anthropological study, the way that, um, human scientists will enmesh themselves in the social dynamics of apes, he did the same thing with child's birthday parties all across the country.

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  There's no talent like Blossom. Derek Blossom is, I mean.

• 22:02Speaker 05

  And hide and seek, it's so in the children. I don't know if you guys have read the.

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  Yeah, I have.

• 22:07Speaker 05

  Modern philosopher. Then you know, modern philosopher, Sheryl Godfrey's book.

• 22:12Speaker 03

  I mean, come on.

• 22:13Speaker 05

  Book about how directly attaching hide and seek to different types of attachment, right? So, so if you were the seeker, obviously anxious attached. If you were the hider, avoid and attached.

• 22:25Speaker 06

  So brilliant.

• 22:26Speaker 05

  And if you played both and then namely sat on the side to let other people play, that's secure attachment. So instead of asking, when you're on these dates, you know, and we haven't even gotten into dating.

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  We haven't even gotten into dating.

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  I can't, we haven't.

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• 24:16Speaker 05

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• 24:24Speaker 06

  Welcome back with more NPR.

• 24:25Speaker 03

  Those, we have some great shows slated up.

• 24:27Speaker 06

  It's gonna be amazing.

• 24:28Speaker 07

  It's gonna be really exciting.

• 24:29Speaker 06

  That's amazing because I read a very interesting piece about, uh, St. Louis recently. How recently in the eighties, it was the, the thriving belle of the ball of the United States in the south, southern United States. But now, due to the shifting film, film and food markets, St. Louis has become kind of, it's had its own Dust Bowl. It's completely empty.

• 24:55Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 24:55Speaker 05

  Have you read that humorous essay?

• 24:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, uh, yeah, I have. I've, I've seen it too.

• 25:01Speaker 05

  By Ava, Ava, Ava Luisa Garda-Farica? It's, it's, it's very, very.

• 25:06Speaker 07

  It's hysterical.

• 25:08Speaker 05

  It is, well, it's, it's.

• 25:09Speaker 06

  Essays are genius.

• 25:10Speaker 05

  Brilliant. It is, it's a satirical humorous essay from the point of view of the St. Louis Arch going through 100 years of history.

• 25:17Speaker 07

  Now, I'm, I must explain, I'm sorry to jump on your toes. She is not literally purporting to be the St. Louis Arch.

• 25:25Speaker 03

  No, of course, of course.

• 25:26Speaker 07

  She is, of course, assuming a character in which she.

• 25:29Speaker 05

  It's a humorous take or send up.

• 25:30Speaker 07

  It's a humorous send-up of the St. Louis Arch. She is not literally claiming to be the St. Louis Arch.

• 25:37Speaker 03

  She is, she is.

• 25:39Speaker 07

  There's no way that, for that to literally happen. So I just want to make sure that everyone knows.

• 25:44Speaker 06

  Interesting.

• 25:45Speaker 07

  We're not a crazy town.

• 25:46Speaker 05

  But I do want to say, I, I think I've been seeing a lot of stuff about this online. Humorous send-ups are the last form of resistance we have.

• 25:54Speaker 03

  I've seen this too. You're getting a phone call. I've seen this because, I mean, look at the modern day birthday party.

• 26:03Speaker 06

  Need you to say more. Need you to say more.

• 26:08Speaker 06

  Interesting.

• 26:10Speaker 05

  Do you disagree?

• 26:12Speaker 06

  Well, you know.

• 26:13Speaker 03

  At looking at it?

• 26:14Speaker 06

  I guess where I come from and, uh, some of my Lithuanian heritage, I would say the modern birthday party is actually pseudo-related to the modern death of cinema in a way that we are trying to find third spaces.

• 26:30Speaker 05

  I don't see that.

• 26:31Speaker 06

  Then, and let me finish. We have, we are trying to desperately find third spaces.

• 26:35Speaker 03

  Desperately, I'd say.

• 26:36Speaker 06

  Desperately, desperately trying to connect with each other. The fact that now the modern birthday is not as much happy birthday as it is happy day that you're born. If that makes sense.

• 26:47Speaker 07

  Well, there's actually a culture, um, in, uh, northwestern, southwest New Mexico. And it's a community of people. It's an unincorporated area, um, called Dustville. And they actually celebrate the opposite of a birthday. So whatever day is the least like your birthday in the calendar, that is the day that they celebrate.

• 27:11Speaker 06

  And how do they, well, how do they decide that? That's so interesting.

• 27:13Speaker 07

  Well, they decide sort of, so obviously a half birthday is six months past your birthday, of course. But an opposite of a birthday is the most opposite to the vibe of your birthday. So say, uh, what's your birthday?

• 27:30Speaker 06

  I guess April 22nd.

• 27:31Speaker 07

  April 22nd. So of course, we, we're, we're getting some spring tones in there and 22.

• 27:36Speaker 03

  I'd say winter.

• 27:37Speaker 07

  Yeah, the opposite of an April is, is November and.

• 27:41Speaker 03

  And what's the opposite of 20, 20, what did you say?

• 27:43Speaker 06

  22.

• 27:44Speaker 07

  22, so that's 11th. So your, um, your opposite birthday, if you were a resident of Dustville, which I, I don't think you are, I don't think that that's where your driver's license is registered, is, um, um, it would be November 11th. So that's when they would celebrate.

• 28:00Speaker 05

  I mean, that is basically about six months away.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  And I'd say, I think it's, it's not, it's not really.

• 28:08Speaker 07

  But it's steeped in culture. You know what I mean?

• 28:10Speaker 03

  You know, birthdays are such a funny thing. I am a, uh, last month I went. To the Los Angeles LGBTQ Science and Library Center.

• 28:19Speaker 05

  Congratulations.

• 28:20Speaker 03

  They have a wonderful program where you can celebrate your coming out birthday. And you can basically create your own new version of a birthday. And it just reminded me what you said about birthdays and and what he said about birthdays.

• 28:34Speaker 07

  It's just fascinating how.

• 28:35Speaker 03

  That came up, right?

• 28:37Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 28:37Speaker 03

  And I highly recommend you guys getting memberships to the Los Angeles LGBTQ Plus Science and Library Center.

• 28:45Speaker 05

  Can I ask what what?

• 28:47Speaker 03

  Programming they have?

• 28:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, what programming they have.

• 28:49Speaker 03

  I mean, it is an incredible facility. The library itself is just all queer artists, queer authors, which is beautiful to see. But the Science Center is full of silly putty.

• 29:08Speaker 05

  Interesting.

• 29:09Speaker 03

  Fun thing. And it's a very fun thing that I I I went to and I saw Norah Jones sing there. Yes, because I'm a member.

• 29:19Speaker 05

  You know, it's funny, we I just read from one of our our pop culture correspondents for NPR, and those guys are so much fun. They're always.

• 29:27Speaker 03

  Those guys are hilarious.

• 29:28Speaker 05

  Always playing Olivia Rodrigo.

• 29:30Speaker 07

  They're a little off the wall. Yes.

• 29:32Speaker 05

  I did not know that silly putty is is, as the queer culture is calling it, the new mother. I I I there's these reports coming out that silly putty has become mother. And silly putty is kind of, you know, anthropologically, it's been hard to understand why queer people are responding to silly putty in the way they are, but it's massive. They're putting it on floats. They're doing everything with it.

• 29:55Speaker 07

  Actually, there's a young artist in high school who.

• 29:58Speaker 03

  What's her name? I bet I know them.

• 30:00Speaker 05

  Oh, of course.

• 30:01Speaker 03

  My daughter is an artist.

• 30:03Speaker 07

  XY XY XY axis.

• 30:04Speaker 06

  XY axis.

• 30:05Speaker 03

  XY axis.

• 30:07Speaker 07

  They have put out a series of humorous videos on TikTok that that describes silly putty as mother, likely due to the fluid nature of sexuality itself. And they're drawing upon it as sort of a, you know, many materials in our world are solid and they're one way.

• 30:28Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 30:28Speaker 07

  But silly putty can be many ways, and that is something that the youth are really latching on to.

• 30:34Speaker 06

  It's so interesting, and it's something that actually Dr. Dr. Fantasia. She touched on it.

• 30:43Speaker 03

  Dr. Fantasia, I go to I have dinner with Dr. I want to say once a year.

• 30:47Speaker 06

  I've been such a big fan of her work. I mean, she's her book From Mother Goose to Mother Gaga, Finding the Virgin Mary in Gay Art. It's a beautiful work of fiction. You would think it's nonfiction, but it actually is. It's historical fiction. She every new.

• 31:07Speaker 05

  Reimagines Mother Goose as a queer icon in order to fit her in with Lady Gaga. Yeah.

• 31:11Speaker 06

  Exactly. And it's it was extremely powerful, and it gets at the core of, I think, what makes people tick, which is what are we searching for and how are we each filling our void? And it really just got me going and ticking.

• 31:25Speaker 03

  There's an operetto called Filling the Void that I will I highly recommend. Sorry, I have a cough.

• 31:32Speaker 07

  Oh, I've seen I've seen this operetto.

• 31:33Speaker 06

  Could you stop screaming?

• 31:35Speaker 07

  Is this operetto based on a popsicle stick joke?

• 31:43Speaker 05

  It's an operetto based on a popsicle stick joke.

• 31:44Speaker 06

  What was the original popsicle stick joke that it's based on?

• 31:47Speaker 03

  I can't.

• 31:48Speaker 07

  I believe it was it was something about.

• 31:51Speaker 03

  It was double sided of the popsicle stick.

• 31:53Speaker 07

  The one side said.

• 31:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, I saw it the Louvre, that what it's based off of.

• 31:58Speaker 07

  It said, what, what, what, what does a cow say when the other one is being really funny?

• 32:05Speaker 03

  And then it said, move.

• 32:07Speaker 07

  Move.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  Move.

• 32:08Speaker 07

  Move.

• 32:10Speaker 06

  I would understand. I would understand how you make a base a whole operetto off that.

• 32:14Speaker 03

  But the operetto is incredible.

• 32:15Speaker 07

  The operetto is, I've I've heard, unbelievable.

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• 34:19Speaker 03

  It reminded me the first time I saw Einstein on the beach. I remember like standing up in the middle of one of the intermissions. There's many intermissions. I stood up and I went, this was made for me.

• 34:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 34:33Speaker 03

  And I'd say like, just working with you guys, I feel like there are a lot of specific pieces that come into our orbit that aren't made meant for me. And I and I embrace them with the full heart. I tried to watch Shark Boy and Lava Girl recently with my daughter, and I went, that's not made for me. And something that made for me.

• 34:53Speaker 07

  Now, why, why, why, why, why? I'm curious about this. Why do you feel that Shark Boy and Lava Girl was not made for you?

• 35:01Speaker 03

  Is it a loss of adolescence? Is it a loss of whimsy?

• 35:10Speaker 05

  For me, Shark Boy and Lava Girl is about the diaspora. I've always seen it as that.

• 35:15Speaker 03

  You always have.

• 35:16Speaker 05

  The American diaspora and in many ways, you know, this caste system that we find ourselves in.

• 35:22Speaker 03

  I mean, even the East and the West.

• 35:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, Shark Boy, Lava Girl.

• 35:25Speaker 06

  And I'm just so interested in that. I mean, you bring up the American caste system. What, you know, what is that for you?

• 35:35Speaker 07

  Well, I mean, to to to zoom out for a moment, we find ourselves on the precipice of an AI change, of AI coming in, and Shark Boy and Lava Girl, in this sense, is sort of a challenge to that system. It's sort of taking, it's the last stand of something truly human before our new digital age.

• 36:00Speaker 03

  This is good. We haven't talked about AI yet, and then we're going to get into talking about dating.

• 36:03Speaker 05

  Is staunchly about AI.

• 36:04Speaker 03

  But I'd love to talk about it. Yeah.

• 36:06Speaker 05

  And, you know, you couldn't replicate what we do with AI in any way.

• 36:10Speaker 03

  There's just no, there's simply, I mean.

• 36:12Speaker 05

  This is human.

• 36:13Speaker 06

  Actually, to talk about the effects of AI on specific cinema and movie is Dr. Lanky Dink. They are out of Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. They're professor of film studies and cinema for the history. Professor Dink, you're on the air.

• 36:31Speaker 03

  Hello, how are you?

• 36:32Speaker 06

  Hi. So you actually just published a paper, a research paper about the recent trend of Hollywood trying to integrate AI into its system. How do you think this affects the study of film? And moving forward, where do you see, you know, the business of Hollywood going?

• 36:50Speaker 03

  Thank you so much for having me. I just want to say I'm a longtime listener of the show. And listen, I live in libraries. I live in, I'm always studying, like, Lanky Dink. And what?

• 37:03Speaker 06

  Sorry, we just a bad connection. It seems like you're calling from a Zoom or something like that. Just terrible connection.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  I'm on Zoom.

• 37:10Speaker 06

  Just try to talk a little clearer. Thanks.

• 37:11Speaker 03

  Okay, sorry about that. Anyway, I have been. Studying the roots of. I've been studying the roots of AI in cinema. And I have found a way to prove that if AI were to create movies, it would never have things like Marilyn Monroe.

• 37:30Speaker 05

  That's a very good point.

• 37:33Speaker 05

  I, I.

• 37:33Speaker 06

  Interesting.

• 37:34Speaker 05

  I've read a recent.

• 37:35Speaker 03

  Is my Zoom working?

• 37:36Speaker 06

  Nope. And we've lost you. Thank you so much for coming on.

• 37:38Speaker 03

  Hello.

• 37:38Speaker 06

  Thank you so much for coming on.

• 37:39Speaker 03

  Hello, am I still on the air?

• 37:41Speaker 06

  You're off, you're off. Thank you. Cut, cut her out.

• 37:42Speaker 03

  Hello.

• 37:43Speaker 06

  Cut her out. And thank you so much.

• 37:44Speaker 03

  Can I get my assistant Miranda?

• 37:46Speaker 06

  Dr. Dink, and we'll talk to you later.

• 37:48Speaker 03

  I think the, I think the Zoom cut, I think, I think the Zoom cut.

• 37:51Speaker 06

  Deep.

• 37:51Speaker 03

  Am I still on the air?

• 37:52Speaker 06

  Deep, deep, deep, deep.

• 37:53Speaker 03

  I think the Zoom cut.

• 37:54Speaker 07

  It seems, it seems, it seems they're still on the air.

• 37:57Speaker 05

  You know, I read a report recently where an artist.

• 38:00Speaker 03

  It must be off by now, right?

• 38:01Speaker 06

  It's gotta be off.

• 38:02Speaker 05

  Deep.

• 38:06Speaker 05

  I read a report recently where an artist described Marilyn Monroe to 500 different AI models, and none of them.

• 38:16Speaker 05

  None of them correctly, none of them correctly drew Marilyn Monroe.

• 38:22Speaker 06

  Well, I've got a question then. Was it because the computers don't understand her, or were the descriptions bad? Because I feel if you sent a photo of Marilyn Monroe to AI, it would figure it out immediately.

• 38:35Speaker 05

  This is what the author purports. The author, her name is Viveka Jean.

• 38:40Speaker 03

  I love.

• 38:41Speaker 05

  Boncelou. She is.

• 38:43Speaker 03

  Viveka and I get a panini once a year.

• 38:45Speaker 05

  She's a.

• 38:46Speaker 06

  Where do you get your paninis?

• 38:49Speaker 03

  La Pan Quatian.

• 38:50Speaker 06

  Ah.

• 38:50Speaker 05

  That's awesome.

• 38:51Speaker 03

  Delicious.

• 38:54Speaker 05

  I, I, yeah, Viveka wrote an incredible book about this. You can find it only on the Libby app, which is a free library app.

• 39:03Speaker 03

  Great app.

• 39:03Speaker 05

  It's a fantastic app.

• 39:04Speaker 07

  Yes, I have it.

• 39:05Speaker 03

  I'm walking the marathon for that app.

• 39:07Speaker 05

  It's a Libby exclusive because she just cares about library systems and, and essentially.

• 39:13Speaker 07

  Have you guys seen the Libby, the straight to series, Libby is Doing Originals?

• 39:18Speaker 05

  Yes, I've seen.

• 39:19Speaker 07

  But we could talk about that later.

• 39:21Speaker 03

  We have to talk about that.

• 39:21Speaker 07

  We could talk about that later.

• 39:22Speaker 03

  No, we should definitely talk about Libby.

• 39:23Speaker 07

  What were you going to say about this work?

• 39:25Speaker 05

  You just, I really, I urge you to read the book because I think she describes Marilyn Monroe sometimes perfectly to a T. Sometimes she goes for emotions and vibes and what comes out is something similar to a crap.

• 39:39Speaker 07

  Well, this is, it's, it's interesting because it's very difficult to describe a, what beauty is to a machine. It can sort of replicate it, but it's, it's very difficult. And I, I know that there's a group of scientists in southwest Florida that are working in a lab right now, reading pictionary clues to AI, trying to see if the AI will draw what they're saying.

• 40:04Speaker 05

  You know, I saw.

• 40:04Speaker 06

  Really interesting because that's not how pictionary works.

• 40:08Speaker 07

  Well, these scientists seem to believe that's how it does.

• 40:11Speaker 05

  I saw, I saw a scathing cartoon recently that was two.

• 40:17Speaker 07

  Oh, I know what you're about to say.

• 40:18Speaker 05

  Of course you do. Two process servers sitting on a beach, looking at the sunset. And one said to the other, that's a lot of ones and zeros. And I think that just says.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  Josten drew that.

• 40:29Speaker 05

  Josten. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know Josten.

• 40:32Speaker 06

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• 46:25Speaker 06

  You know, what I'm really finding interesting in my, what I'm really diving into these days, if I say so, I mean, it's such a torrid political climate, but you know, I find myself finding hope in the little stories my daughter tells me at night.

• 46:43Speaker 05

  Congratulations.

• 46:44Speaker 06

  Thank you. She's coming home from the playground, telling me these really interesting stories. And I'm really realizing at what point does a child learn an ethical moral system? Is it taught? Or is she born with it?

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  I loved hearing the tapes you're already working on. If I could tease this out a little bit, you're piloting this out. And I've heard that you're recording your daughter telling stories of the park. And I find that beautiful. I did find the tapes are a little distracting because you can hear the park. And I think we should play one of them.

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  Daddy, so the story is it's a little princess and she goes up the stairs.

• 47:25Speaker 07

  Look, man, I reserved this grill at four.

• 47:27Speaker 03

  You did it. It's my grill.

• 47:29Speaker 07

  I reserved the grill at four.

• 47:31Speaker 03

  Tell me the papers, man.

• 47:32Speaker 07

  My daughter's having a whole birthday party here. You're just gonna let her?

• 47:36Speaker 03

  Just got another grill. And the princess only really wanted to leave the castle. She wanted to leave the castle so badly.

• 47:44Speaker 07

  This grill has the best view of the damn tree.

• 47:50Speaker 06

  Thank you so much for letting me play that. It's, um,

• 47:54Speaker 06

  it's amazing. I know it brings a tear to my eye because she's just growing up. And age is just such a tricky beast.

• 48:03Speaker 07

  Age is a tricky beast. And I think that there is actually a group of scientists in New Jersey who are working on, recontextualizing age so that you don't count as many years.

• 48:18Speaker 03

  I've heard of this study.

• 48:18Speaker 06

  It's called the age of consent.

• 48:20Speaker 07

  It's called the age of consent.

• 48:22Speaker 03

  Consent spelled with a C.

• 48:24Speaker 07

  Where you only.

• 48:24Speaker 03

  Instead of S.

• 48:26Speaker 07

  Yes. Conget. It's the age of conget. And you only agree to take in the years that you, you agree, you don't, you consent to have, to turning another age.

• 48:39Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, it brings up, sorry.

• 48:41Speaker 06

  No, go ahead, please.

• 48:41Speaker 03

  It brings up the statue of limitations. And I think that's something we, uh, we talk about a lot on the show.

• 48:50Speaker 05

  I mean, I saw a humorous cartoon recently of.

• 48:55Speaker 07

  Oh, I've seen that as well.

• 48:56Speaker 03

  It's, uh, by Buka.

• 48:58Speaker 05

  By Buka de Bepo, yeah. It's, uh, they put it in their lobby. They put it in their lobby. And it's, uh, instead of the statue of liberty, it's the statue of limitations.

• 49:07Speaker 03

  And she's, and she's saying, go home.

• 49:09Speaker 05

  I mean, that just says it all.

• 49:10Speaker 03

  Right. And that just really says it all.

• 49:12Speaker 05

  Speaking of children and aging, I recently sat down with my children and kind of asked them to figure out a way to, um, put me out of my misery. I asked them to figure out ways to maybe make it look like an accident. Maybe, maybe allow me to shuffle off this moral foil.

• 49:34Speaker 05

  I asked my family to poison me. I asked my family to smother me. I'm interested in no longer being here.

• 49:39Speaker 07

  Well, there's an, there's an artist in, uh, New Mexico who is actually exploring, um, ethical, uh, familial euthanasia. It's about committing euthanasia to oneself in a way that honors, um, spiritual ties, ancestral bonds. And there, it's a, it's a deeply rooted tradition that I think spans back hundreds of thousands of years.

• 50:04Speaker 03

  The Getty Museum has a beautiful, the Getty Museum has a beautiful exhibit right now about euthanasia.

• 50:12Speaker 05

  I'm struggling, right? So I'm struggling.

• 50:16Speaker 06

  So interesting.

• 50:17Speaker 03

  So it's just, this, this exhibit is so interesting.

• 50:21Speaker 07

  This is so interesting.

• 50:22Speaker 03

  You mentioned that you wanted your family to put you out of your misery. And it, I, it immediately brings me to this exhibit in the Getty that has a picture of every animal species.

• 50:34Speaker 06

  That's so interesting.

• 50:36Speaker 03

  Euthanasia.

• 50:37Speaker 06

  Because you say struggling and it reminds me of this really fun quirky crossword theme I ran across.

• 50:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm thinking of ending it all.

• 50:45Speaker 06

  So that's what the clue was. It was very interesting. Ending it all? Question mark. And what it actually was, ending it all was 12:00 AM. That's what you have to write because that's the end and the beginning of the day.

• 50:55Speaker 07

  Speaking of, that's quite funny.

• 50:56Speaker 03

  Speaking of ending it all.

• 50:57Speaker 05

  I'm wishing for death.

• 50:58Speaker 07

  Well, if you're wishing for death, there's, you've heard the Sonata.

• 51:01Speaker 03

  Yes, I love this Sonata.

• 51:03Speaker 07

  There's a Sonata, um, that is going around that I'm sure you've seen it.

• 51:09Speaker 06

  Like the flu.

• 51:10Speaker 03

  No, it's going around.

• 51:11Speaker 06

  The Sonata is like the flu.

• 51:12Speaker 03

  It's via the mail.

• 51:13Speaker 07

  This Sonata goes.

• 51:14Speaker 03

  The Sonata's going around, via the mail.

• 51:16Speaker 07

  You can literally catch this Sonata in your hand because when you open it up, it's a badminton, um, quail. And so you, you have to catch the Sonata and the Sonata wishes for its own death.

• 51:28Speaker 06

  It's so interesting because as we speak about death, the California quail I've heard is bouncing back after

• 51:34Speaker 07

  Oh, that's good news.

• 51:35Speaker 06

  Years of decline, apparently.

• 51:37Speaker 07

  That's quite good news.

• 51:38Speaker 06

  People doing, people doing.

• 51:39Speaker 07

  What did you say?

• 51:41Speaker 05

  I've asked them to do it tonight.

• 51:43Speaker 03

  Tonight.

• 51:43Speaker 07

  Well, tonight, there's a very interesting, um, NASA is reporting that there is a double comet.

• 51:49Speaker 06

  Double blood moon comet.

• 51:51Speaker 03

  Double blood moon comet.

• 51:52Speaker 07

  That it'll be visible if you are in southwest Texas between three and five AM, you are in for a trip.

• 51:58Speaker 05

  I literally won't be.

• 51:58Speaker 03

  There's a little girl in Texas that has already raised about $5,000 for the Girl Scouts to all go see this comet.

• 52:06Speaker 07

  Oh, well, that's nice.

• 52:07Speaker 03

  Front row.

• 52:08Speaker 05

  We need money to see a comet?

• 52:12Speaker 07

  You need.

• 52:13Speaker 06

  There's fun to get a telescope out there to see the comet correctly because it'll be visible through telescopes eyes.

• 52:19Speaker 03

  And this little girl, it reminds me of all of the, um, little girls everywhere who make a wish. You said you wish for it to end. You said you wish for it to be done. And I think when we wish upon a star.

• 52:35Speaker 07

  You know, scientists are actually studying wishes right now. At the University of Iowa, they are doing a study on wishes and how it can actually affect.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  How they're heavy.

• 52:45Speaker 07

  They're heavy. They actually have weight. They have more weight than, um, solids, liquids and gases.

• 52:51Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 52:52Speaker 03

  Those good people at Iowa.

• 52:53Speaker 06

  When you wish upon a star, I mean, it's such a beautiful song from, of course, which musical is that from again?

• 52:58Speaker 07

  When you wish upon a star.

• 53:00Speaker 06

  Because I have just, uh, recently discovered an all indigenous queer retelling of Pinocchio through an American guy, gays.

• 53:08Speaker 03

  With the music, with the music.

• 53:11Speaker 06

  Of, yes.

• 53:12Speaker 03

  Um, what is, what is the classic flute flautist's name?

• 53:15Speaker 06

  Yes, uh.

• 53:17Speaker 03

  Ponchin Tape.

• 53:18Speaker 06

  Ponchin Tape. He's doing the beautiful flute to, uh, When You Wish Upon a Star, retelling of Pinocchio.

• 53:26Speaker 06

  Well, thanks, guys. Thank you so much for, uh, sitting down with us. Maybe, should we introduce ourselves?

• 53:29Speaker 03

  Maybe before we go, let's introduce ourselves.

• 53:31Speaker 06

  Yeah. Signing off, my name is Elvis Presley.

• 53:37Speaker 05

  Hi, my name is Dan Delian Martin.

• 53:44Speaker 03

  I'm Leather Bath.

• 53:45Speaker 06

  And of course, I'm Dr. St. Clair the fourth.

• 53:50Speaker 03

  And I'm Professor Dinky Linky. I'm still on the Zoom. Someone let me on?

• 53:54Speaker 07

  Oh, goodness.

• 53:54Speaker 03

  I'm still on the Zoom here.

• 53:55Speaker 06

  Oh, goodness.

• 53:56Speaker 07

  Oh, goodness.

• 53:56Speaker 03

  I'm still on the Zoom here.

• 53:57Speaker 07

  We simply have to let you go.

• 53:59Speaker 03

  I've been quiet this whole time.

• 54:00Speaker 06

  On our, on our topic today, what is it like to be an NPR host?

• 54:04Speaker 03

  Yes, I think this is a, a panel talking about what it's like behind the show. Now that the show's over, we can start.

• 54:09Speaker 07

  Well, let's talk about microphone quality.

• 54:13Speaker 03

  This has been our, some of ours.

• 54:14Speaker 06

  Answering the question. Now that's why they call it show business.

• 54:17Speaker 07

  Good night from the beautiful Dynasty Typewriter. Join the Patreon. We'll talk all about this.

• 54:23Speaker 06

  Oh, good night, Hollywood.

• 54:25Speaker 03

  Have a chase for Alisa.

• 54:27Speaker 06

  She's back.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  Have a chase for Alisa.

• 54:28Speaker 06

  You never know when she's coming.

• 54:29Speaker 03

  She's back.

• 54:30Speaker 06

  It's one of our experimental theater pieces. Experimental theater piece episodes.

• 54:35Speaker 03

  We'll talk about it on the Patreon. Go see it. Bye.

• 54:36Speaker 07

  Bye.

• 54:37Speaker 05

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