Acting Coaches (with Will Ferrell)

Stella Adler. Uta Hagen. Lee Strasberg. Stanislavski. Meisner. Acting coaches and acting teachers like these greats are the lifeblood of New York and Hollywood. Not the big screen per se, but the city itself, molding young actors as they chase their dreams of the limelight. Over the years, many teachers have developed philosophies and techniques, and today we have the honor and privilege of sitting down with 5 such coaches. From conventional wisdom to unlikely sources of inspiration, these teachers reveal how they came to develop their techniques, how they help students approach both auditioning and acting (two separate skills), and what makes them just like you and me. So get out your notebook, shake it out, and listen in. Our guest this week is the one and only Will Ferrell! This man truly needs no introduction unless you have literally been living under a rock - he's been in all your favorite movies and shows from Elf to Anchorman. It was such an honor to get to play with him and make him laugh, and we will never stop talking about it. Find him starring in The Hawk on Netflix and occasionally DJ'ing wherever he so chooses! MERCH HERE! https://artistsonartistsonartistsonartists.com/shop This episode was filmed in the beautiful Dynasty Typewriter Theater, and tech-produced by Samuel Curtis. For live shows and events you can find more about them at dynastytypewriter.com. To learn more about the BTS of this episode and to find a world of challenges, games, inside scoop, and the Artists being themselves, subscribe to our Patreon! You won't be disappointed with what you find. Check out patreon.com/aoaoaoapod Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists is an improvised Hollywood roundtable podcast Created and Hosted by Kylie Brakeman, Jeremy Culhane, Angela Giarratana and Patrick McDonald. It is a production of Will Ferrell’s Big Money Players and iHeartMedia Podcasts. Executive Produced by Matt Apodaca and produced by Alexandra Dennis and Laservision Productions. Music By Gabriel Ponton, editing by Conner McCabe, and social media editing by Adam Keller. Thumbnails by Josh Fleury and logo design by Lucy Tomkiewicz. Hollywood's talking. Make sure you're listening. Subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube! Please rate us five stars! See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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  Welcome back to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists. This week, we're talking to acting teachers.

• 2:47Speaker 03

  Acting is such a good art form, right?

• 2:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:52Speaker 03

  And we have so many even better people who spend every day teaching people how to do it.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  From nine to 99, everyone wants to know how to act, and these guys are helping them figure it out. Let's listen in.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. Surrounded by some of the greats. Unbelievable. This, uh, this is such a thrill and a pleasure. Yes. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. For me. No, please. For me. For me. I think it's mine. It can't be bigger.

• 3:25Speaker 04

  This is, I would say, my pleasure as well.

• 3:30Speaker 03

  I'd say I'd like to take a deep breath.

• 3:32Speaker 04

  OK, I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  A deep cleansing breath?

• 3:36Speaker 03

  Cleansing, yes, to cleanse.

• 3:38Speaker 04

  Take a deep cleansing breath through the nose.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  Can we just let it out with a light sigh?

• 3:43Speaker 04

  Sigh.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  Open up that instrument. And then a wide face.

• 3:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. Ah! Let it all out. Ah!

• 3:53Speaker 03

  Ah! I can't do a wide face unless I know if there's intention behind it.

• 3:57Speaker 01

  Uh-oh, I already can tell. Film, theater, I can tell. I'm gonna hate you. I'm gonna hate you.

• 4:05Speaker 01

  We're fighting. I'm gonna hate your ass. It's so fun to see the contrast. It's so fun immediately to see, you know. Can I say something? There's differences. Please. I'll say it. There's differences between the two, film and theater.

• 4:17Speaker 04

  You're allowed to say the differences because the differences are what make us who we are.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  I tell my students. No. I tell my students. There are differences. Yeah.

• 4:27Speaker 04

  You tell them this.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  And I'll scream at them. If you don't know the fucking difference, get out of my class. Thank you. And. Do they listen? A lot, no. Yeah, of course. The most of them just stare back. I mean, this generation. Don't get me started. They don't talk, they don't say anything. They don't know anything. They don't know anything. They don't know anything.

• 4:46Speaker 04

  They don't know anything.

• 4:46Speaker 01

  They don't even know how to take a shit. No. Right?

• 4:49Speaker 04

  No.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  They're gonna go, they're gonna go. For me, it's exactly right. So I will take them one at a time. That's our first exercise in my class. Oh.

• 4:56Speaker 03

  Taking a shit?

• 4:57Speaker 01

  I follow them into the bathroom. OK, good. And watch them. You make sure they can do it correctly. I make sure they can do it correctly. If you can do this, you can do anything. Exactly.

• 5:04Speaker 03

  And I'd also say, taking a shit is human.

• 5:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, it's one of our most basic things. Yes.

• 5:10Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 5:10Speaker 01

  Well, I've heard you go, you take them into the shit, and while they're shitting, you go, make it real. Yes. Make it real. I don't believe it. I don't believe you're pooping. I don't believe it yet.

• 5:20Speaker 03

  Do you ever comment on if someone's pushing?

• 5:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, so that's actually a great question. That is a good question.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  Because I don't like actors who push.

• 5:28Speaker 01

  I know. But I like poopers who push. I know. Yes, you don't want to push a performance. But. In this. In this instance. And especially, these are first-year students. If you're a third-year student of mine, or a, or a, a 15-year student of mine, I go, I take, I take students all the way to 15. Oh, good.

• 5:47Speaker 04

  Oh, good.

• 5:48Speaker 01

  And then I'm done with them. Because they've learned everything they can learn. But if you're like a third-year student and you're pushing your poop, out. Yeah. It's got to come.

• 5:56Speaker 03

  Because it's not authentic.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  Out. It's not authentic.

• 5:58Speaker 03

  Because your body isn't doing it.

• 5:59Speaker 01

  Out, greedy beast!

• 6:00Speaker 04

  Now, can I ask a devil's advocate question? What happens if the student doesn't need to go to the bathroom?

• 6:08Speaker 01

  Then, I, you know what? It's, they sit in there until it happens. Yeah. It could be hours.

• 6:15Speaker 03

  That's the work.

• 6:15Speaker 04

  It could be hours.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  That's the work.

• 6:17Speaker 04

  That is the work.

• 6:18Speaker 01

  And, and I tell them, I've got, you know, I've got a waiting list a mile long. And if this is uncomfortable for you, if this isn't real enough for you. Thank you. Hit the brakes. You're always threatening them with that waitlist.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  Always. The waitlist, I, I get a lot of leverage from the waitlist. And no, has anyone seen the waitlist? Oh, you've only seen the waitlist. I've seen the waitlist. And you know. I know. Your dirty little secret. I've had some of your students, and some of your students have told me that if they feel like they're bombing, they'll look over, and you'll look in the drawer, and you'll pull out what looks like a list of names while they're acting. And shake it, a lightly shake it.

• 7:00Speaker 03

  I feel it's a part of your email, your, your monthly email, I get. It's just your waitlist.

• 7:05Speaker 01

  It's called the waitlist. That email is a mess. Can I say, your formatting in that email is a mess. It's like a man has never sent an email before. I'm a technophobe. I don't know, I don't know, email from, you know, uh. Something else. Instagram. I don't, yeah. Also, your Instagram is a mess, too. It's, it's all a mess.

• 7:24Speaker 03

  You just post your waitlist.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  I don't have time. I don't have time to deal with that stuff. Well, why don't we go around and introduce ourselves? Yes. The studio that we run. Yes. The kind of focus that we're working on. I don't mind going first. Yeah. My name is Dr. Ruben LaFleur. I, thank you.

• 7:42Speaker 03

  Good to see you, Ruben.

• 7:42Speaker 01

  I work with certain people that I think is on, are on the cusp of greatness. These could be people that have big Instagram followings. These could be people that have been in a commercial. These are people that maybe are people that I see on the street, and I go, you've got potential here. And I try to hone them in on finding their inner pain and bringing that into my class. You know, you are, you're a recruiting acting teacher. I'm a recruiter. A lot of people call that predatory. I don't think it is because I think you see potential in people and you want it. I see potential in people. You are recruiting. Explain to the audience what a recruiting acting teacher is. So what I do is I kind of stand out. Yes. In the areas, and I go, you, you, you, you, you! Ah!

• 8:28Speaker 01

  And if they react. And you have a doctorate? I have a doctorate. In theater? Theater. Specifically theater.

• 8:35Speaker 03

  And where are you going? You, you, where are you?

• 8:37Speaker 04

  What areas?

• 8:37Speaker 01

  I'm in all areas. I'm down at the beach, Venice Boulevard. Are you downtown? I'm downtown. You get a lot of interesting types in downtown. City folk! The other day, I went up to a Korean man, and I said, ah! He was so scared. He was on his way to his business. I said, put down the briefcase and get into my car. Yep. And then we'll go to my class. And did that happen? No. Oh, OK. No. Right. Well. Yeah. Not yet. Because I followed him. You're planting the seeds. Yes. I love that you chose to tell that story. That's a failure. It's good, yes. It's amazing.

• 9:14Speaker 04

  We're talking about failures.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  Wait.

• 9:17Speaker 03

  You're not doing good recruiting.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  No, wait.

• 9:19Speaker 04

  I heard, I heard the end of the story. It ended in failure.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  Wait.

• 9:23Speaker 03

  We are.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  I follow him to his work.

• 9:25Speaker 04

  OK.

• 9:26Speaker 01

  Where I come across a ton of other businessmen working. I go, ah! You are all fit for my class. And I said, get in my car, and we're driving to my class.

• 9:36Speaker 04

  How big is your car?

• 9:37Speaker 01

  I've got a big Subaru. Subaru! Fits, I've got backseats, it's five.

• 9:43Speaker 03

  Did anybody get in the car?

• 9:44Speaker 01

  No. But wait.

• 9:47Speaker 04

  OK.

• 9:47Speaker 01

  It still has to be a time that's worked. Why are you telling us times that didn't work? I went up to the next floor because this was a big business. I found another person named Janet Montague. Janet? Janet.

• 10:00Speaker 04

  Janet Montague.

• 10:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. Janet Montague. Common name. Okay, it is. Common. She. Name. If you, if you venture downtown as much as the doctor does. You couldn't throw a stone without hitting a janet. You're gonna run every, every six persons a janet. There's no way. It's a janet. There's hundreds of janets downtown. Hundreds. I've never met a janet. And if you're not a janet, you know a janet. Yes. If you're downtown. You think the D in janet stands for downtown? Yes. So the middle letter of janet stands for downtown, probably. So if you go up to the countryside, you go back to Janet? Yeah. It's not, that's not how names work. I'm sorry, I'm a film guy. You don't drop the.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  It's unbelievable. So Janet, I found, she's a lost woman and she has decided to get in my car. And she was on the second floor. She was on the second floor. Thank you. Thank you. She was on the second floor and I said, Janet, you've got something special. And she said, me? Little old Janet? I said, get in my car, you young lady. She's not too young, uh, 45. I don't like this getting in my car movie. Why not? Well, I don't, acting teachers. If you're ready to get in a car, you're ready to start this career. Okay. Okay. And you drive them to the studio? Drive them to the studio down in Burbank. So very kind of a far drive at 4:00 PM. Burbank where dreams happen. And happen. Yeah.

• 11:26Speaker 01

  Can we all say, I mean, Burbank has been unbelievable for the acting teacher industry. I think they're kind of the cornerstone. Burbank and North Hollywood. Yes. Oh, my God. Right? Maybe even better. Hollywood. Maybe even better. Right? If you can get a, a, a commercial retail space in North Hollywood as an acting teacher, you have made it. Yes. Yes. But that's enough about me. I would love to hear your names and a little bit more of your focuses.

• 11:54Speaker 01

  I'll go next. Uh, of course, my name. Of course. Do you even need an intro? Is Sebastian Daryl. Yes. Was I teased about having two first names as a child? Yes. Did it toughen me up? Of course. I wouldn't change it for the world. What were the kind of crazy things people would say? Oh, just like, oh, you don't have a last name. No. They do that? Your, your, your, your last name's a first name. Kids can be so cruel. Sebastian Daryl. That's so awful. And then, and then, you know, if you're doing roll call and they'll say, Daryl, Daryl Sebastian. Game over. And then people, other kids would call like, what is your name? Daryl or is this Sebastian? I'm like, it's Sebastian.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  Have you heard before that Daryl Sebastian sounds a little bit better than Sebastian Daryl? It, it does roll off the tongue. That's cruel, though. That's cruel. But look, I'm not, I'm not going to, you know. No. Again, we were talking about janet. Yeah.

• 12:53Speaker 01

  Again, how could I forget? Yeah, those are real names. A real name. Sebastian Daryl, real name. Real name. I can't just, I mean, I could have flopped. I could have used an acting name. I could have, sure. Did you think about it? I did. What were you gonna go with? Uh, red. No, just one word. Red. One word, one color. Red with two Ds. Uh. That's nice. That's really nice for you. But, uh, and I had, I had photos made. I had car, I had my, my CV, my. Red. Red on the back, you know, I had the composite. I did four different character shots. You know it all. One in scrubs. Which I don't think it, one in scrubs. Doctor. Glasses. Lawyer. Glasses that really make you feel like you've never worn glasses before. Glasses.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  And now you need.

• 13:39Speaker 04

  Funny glasses.

• 13:40Speaker 01

  And now you need two polos, one red. For one. Yes. Bearded look. Bearded? Non-bearded look.

• 13:47Speaker 01

  Anyway. Where do you teach? I teach, you know where I teach. I share a space with you. Delete it. I share a space. I share a space. Share a wall, share a space. Share a space, share a wall. And we've always worked out the timing. We've never had a scheduling conflict. Never once. That's crazy. How do you work it out? Never once. And that's what we're most proud of. Yes. Never once have we ever had to fight about a schedule. Fight about a schedule. Well, it makes sense because you're driving people and you're bringing people to the bathroom. So it feels like you guys don't use the main studio that much. Well, I just know if it's bathroom hour, I've got an hour to do a private. You've got a good hour. Cause I've taken my class. And I go, don't go to the bathroom right now. Exactly. That's taken. Of course, our, our acting, our, our acting workshop is called The Actors Play Thing. Play Thing. Yes.

• 14:32Speaker 01

  The Actors Play Thing.

• 14:33Speaker 04

  The Actors Play Thing.

• 14:34Speaker 01

  Play Thing. That's haunting. What is your methodology? Uh, well, as, again, as you know. I know because I hear it. Yep. Uh, which you hear nothing because I focus on movement. No words. That's where it all started, right? Ever. Not once have I had one of my students talk. This 15 levels, 30 levels, they don't get to talk? If you're ready to go, go. But you can, you can stay with me for 15 years before I ask you to leave. You can speak anywhere else in this world. You can speak anywhere. You can speak in, in, in doctor, doctor, John, doctors. LaFleur.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  Doctor LaFleur's class? You can speak in every acting class in the world. You just can't speak in mine. So do you coach kids through sides or anything? Well, I know this is a beautiful thing. You're, you're no coaching. Yeah, no, no coaching.

• 15:29Speaker 04

  So you don't, you don't coach and they don't speak. So are they just sort of doing the movement walk around the room thing for most of it?

• 15:36Speaker 01

  Kind of a milling and seething situation?

• 15:37Speaker 04

  Kind of walking around the room, making choices?

• 15:40Speaker 01

  I will yell out subjects, topics, and, and so I'll just, like, I'll, for instance, like this morning's class, I just said, Congress, can they get anything done? Go. Sounds like a take. Show me.

• 15:56Speaker 04

  So, so.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  Show me.

• 15:57Speaker 04

  So they're walking around the room?

• 15:58Speaker 01

  They're walking around and they, I'm like, dude, and they'll look at me like, and I'm like, I don't look, don't look at yourselves.

• 16:03Speaker 04

  And how does their performance change when they hear something like, Congress, can they get anything done? Is it sort of like a, am I right? Or like, what are they, what are you looking for when you give them that?

• 16:12Speaker 01

  I'm looking for commitment, conviction. I'm looking for. Of course, we all are looking for those. Yes. It's just different ways. I'm looking for making a choice. Uh, you know, I'm looking for, uh, I'm looking for if you, if they are move, if they're blocked.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  Particularly in their bowel region, I can tell. If they're walking in pain. You've got laser focus on that. I have such laser focus.

• 16:40Speaker 04

  Now, do you find you ever get people who are not actually looking for acting, but are just looking for ways, they're really constipated and they're looking to take a shit?

• 16:49Speaker 01

  There have been a few of my students who have admitted that. Yes. I bet you can tell right off. Yes. Yeah. And, uh, I'll pull them aside and I'm like, are you here to learn acting or are you here for the other thing? They're like, the other thing? I'm so embarrassed. I'm like, relax. I got you. I got you. It has hit the TikTok. Your secret is mine. On TikTok, your studio is known.

• 17:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, IBS TikTok has been floating it around.

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  If you have some internal digestion problems. I can't control that. No. No, it shouldn't.

• 17:20Speaker 04

  No.

• 17:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. You shouldn't. I shouldn't.

• 17:22Speaker 04

  You shouldn't.

• 17:23Speaker 01

  I'm happy to introduce myself. Please go. Need no introduction. Well, yeah, you guys know me. I'm Billy Boyo. I focus specifically in getting high school students into colleges. I am the director of Next Step Acting. And for me, what I like to say is, uh, all you really need to focus on is being good for about three minutes and your life will change. Monologue city. I'm monologue city. I'm Mr. Monologue.

• 17:49Speaker 04

  Beep beep.

• 17:50Speaker 01

  I'm Mr. Singing. I, I can pick the right monologue for you. I can look at you and I can go, you're, you're doing much you do about nothing, you know? I can look at you and I go, you're doing Christopher Durrance. One classical, one contempt. Yeah. Ballad, up tempo, I can do it all. So you, you help them select their monologue? I do. I help them select their monologues. I figure what's right for them. Do you let them know if they're, if they've made a choice, that's not, if they come in already, or wait, do they ask you for the choice? They come in. Yep. I have a suggestion. They won't know I have a suggestion until they do theirs. And I like to weaponize positivity. That's awesome. And I like to go. I love acting teachers. I love acting teachers. I've never given them a note.

• 18:34Speaker 04

  This is the best job in the world.

• 18:35Speaker 01

  I love my job. I've never given them a note. I go, that was fantastic. What's your success rate of getting kids into college? I got three kids. Yep. Into ASU last year. Okay. Arizona State University. Theater department. That program is huge. ASU Theater Department. ASFA? I didn't even know they had a BFA. They don't have a BFA. Not yet. BS. BS. Bachelor of Science. Bachelor of Science. Theater. Yes, BS Theater. But guess what, guys, guys, guys, I'm reading the trades like you guys are reading Wall Street. I know what's happening at these colleges. I know for a fact that director just bought wires. They're gonna do Peter Pan Goes Wrong next year. They're gonna be in the air. Wow.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  These kids are gonna be flying. That's gonna be the step towards an innovation. Somebody in Arizona's gonna actually donate some more money. That's gonna be a brand new version of the program. How many times, how many, through this, a question for the panel. Yeah, of course. And sorry to interrupt. Please.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  A show of hands, how many times have we all seen Peter Pan Goes Wrong? More than five? I think 15, 20. 15, 20? I'm at, I'm at 30. You're at 30. I say it's. 30 and climbing. 30 and climbing. I try to catch it as often as I can. You know what's fun? Until Peter Pan drops. And this show's only two or three years and it is running hot. No, it is. It's like our pilot season. It's our pilot show.

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• 22:04Speaker 01

  What I love is that everything goes wrong. You know it's gonna go wrong. It's fascinating. It's fascinating. It's fascinating. I've seen it 30 times and I never know when it's gonna go wrong.

• 22:19Speaker 04

  The text is smalleable.

• 22:20Speaker 01

  Even though I have a rough idea generally, I think something goes wrong here. I never know. It always catches me. Catches me off guard. That's the part. Wrong in what way? Yes. So many ways to go wrong.

• 22:32Speaker 04

  Can I tell you, when I see a performer playing the end of the play in the beginning, I go, she's playing it wrong. She's gotta play it right first.

• 22:37Speaker 01

  You have to hope it goes right and then it goes wrong. You can't, I've seen about six productions where you can tell the person playing Peter is looking up at the wires.

• 22:46Speaker 04

  Oh, you're playing the trap.

• 22:48Speaker 01

  Don't give it away.

• 22:49Speaker 04

  Do not play the trap.

• 22:50Speaker 01

  Don't give it away.

• 22:51Speaker 04

  Don't play the trap.

• 22:52Speaker 01

  You're playing the obstacle. You gotta hope this is a good one. You gotta hope this is the night it goes right.

• 22:56Speaker 04

  When I see an actor doing that, I go, drop it, like a dog. Get it, get it, get down. Put it down. Get down.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Wait, you have to introduce yourself. I love you.

• 23:04Speaker 04

  I love you. Get down, get it off.

• 23:06Speaker 01

  We went to college together.

• 23:07Speaker 04

  We did. Believe it or not, we live in the same apartment building.

• 23:11Speaker 01

  It's a lot of interconnectivity. Same theater space, same apartment building. Is it downtown? It's not downtown. No, no, no, no.

• 23:18Speaker 04

  North Hollywood.

• 23:19Speaker 01

  You didn't know about the janet. We never heard of janet.

• 23:21Speaker 04

  I've never met a janet.

• 23:22Speaker 01

  It's a cultural difference. Never met a janet in my life and I don't think I will and I don't believe you still. By the way, the janet border runs from Koreatown down to the LA River.

• 23:33Speaker 04

  It goes all the way to wherever.

• 23:35Speaker 01

  All the way to Frog Town, bordered by the 101. And then the 10. Yeah, the 10. The janet zone. So that's the janet.

• 23:43Speaker 04

  It's the janet industrial zone. Janet autonomous zone.

• 23:47Speaker 01

  Anyway. The jazz. So.

• 23:50Speaker 04

  What's up? My name is Joey Flapper and I teach an acting class in the back of a Petco. My method's called the dog method. Yeah, yeah. Every way you teach.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  You won't believe how Joey got into this. Tell them how you started. You're not gonna believe this.

• 24:11Speaker 04

  One day I'm high as a kite and I'm watching, I'm watching, who's the, who's the dog guy?

• 24:16Speaker 01

  Caesar Milan.

• 24:17Speaker 04

  I'm watching Caesar Milan. Okay? And I'm in acting class at the time. Okay? And I was in New York learning Chekhov. And I'm watching Caesar Milan, I'm stoned.

• 24:26Speaker 01

  Circle and the Square Theater.

• 24:28Speaker 04

  Circle and the Square Theater. Okay? We're working on Three Sisters and I'm watching, I'm watching.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  You're watching Caesar Milan.

• 24:34Speaker 04

  Caesar Milan and I go, you could use this with arena speeches. Arena speak, arena speeches about growing old. You could do the same thing with Caesar Milan. I go, stop it. Whoops. Stop it. Ease, hold, down. I did that with the text and I went, holy fuck, I'm on to something.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 24:58Speaker 04

  So, so for a while, I was only teaching dog training. And your clients were people or dogs? Dogs.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  To be actors or to be dogs?

• 25:11Speaker 04

  You were teaching dogs, dog training. Cause I'm not Petco, that's how I got the Petco residence.

• 25:15Speaker 01

  Okay. They're so cool though, they let you use the space. Must smell awful back there. The Petco residency.

• 25:21Speaker 04

  It's just. I mean, it's a good space, so I get to.

• 25:25Speaker 01

  It's a great space. It's not a good space, it's a great space.

• 25:31Speaker 04

  You got yourself a great space.

• 25:32Speaker 01

  Joey Flapper.

• 25:33Speaker 04

  Joey Flapper. Is it, you don't think the smell's bad?

• 25:37Speaker 01

  No, Joey, it's a great space.

• 25:39Speaker 04

  You got yourself a great space. But sometimes the birds come in.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  Joey, that's right. Great space. Such a great space. Such a great, fascinating. Of course, birds are coming in, they're jealous of the great space.

• 25:51Speaker 04

  But listen, I mean, here's the thing, I use the same tools, the crates I use for the actors, use for the dogs.

• 25:55Speaker 01

  A crate space.

• 25:57Speaker 04

  A crate space. We're crate training the actors, we're teaching them, we're teaching.

• 26:02Speaker 01

  We're crate training the actors. You're just leaving the actors in the crates, getting used to being alone.

• 26:09Speaker 04

  I'm sorry, but I'll say it one word, you'll all understand it, ready? Stillness.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 26:14Speaker 04

  Exactly. Stillness, breath. Stillness. Breath, stillness, push.

• 26:18Speaker 01

  Tempo.

• 26:19Speaker 04

  Tempo, push.

• 26:20Speaker 01

  Silence. If you don't know what to do, get in the crate and do nothing. Yeah.

• 26:25Speaker 04

  And turn off.

• 26:26Speaker 01

  Turn off, close the door to the crate. Close the door to your own crate and turn off.

• 26:31Speaker 04

  Put a little blanket over the crate so you don't get scared. I had, I had an actor test for the pit and she was so in her head and I went, shut the fuck up and get in the crate. Close the door.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  What happened?

• 26:41Speaker 04

  Close your damn door.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  What happened?

• 26:43Speaker 04

  Moved on to test.

• 26:44Speaker 01

  Amazing. And then what? And then what?

• 26:47Speaker 04

  And then she said, we had creative differences. She didn't like the crate method that much and I went, you're in your own way. She didn't book.

• 26:54Speaker 01

  Oh, she didn't book.

• 26:55Speaker 04

  I mean, listen, slowly but surely, I am gonna stop dog and I'm gonna do full actor. But I still have Tuesdays for dogs.

• 27:01Speaker 01

  Oh, the classes are half and half.

• 27:02Speaker 04

  So you could find that. It's how I pay the rent. But I'm so happy to be here with all of you guys today. I, this is a good group of people.

• 27:10Speaker 01

  I love that lesson too. The truth of it is, is, is the second you let a dog out of a crate is when they clearly don't wanna be let out, right? When they're calm, when they're controlled, you go, okay, you can come out. And so that's, I mean, that's when you book. When you, when you could stay in the crate all day, that's when you book.

• 27:28Speaker 04

  I put a stack of books outside the crate and I go, the second you get out of that crate, book.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  Book. Literal, very literal.

• 27:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, so they can treat them like a dog.

• 27:38Speaker 01

  Read a book, treat them like a dog. You always put actors in crates.

• 27:41Speaker 04

  That is amazing. Well.

• 27:43Speaker 01

  I can't believe we've gotten to you.

• 27:44Speaker 04

  I get, well, hello.

• 27:46Speaker 01

  By the way, you.

• 27:47Speaker 04

  I can't believe we've gotten to me.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  You should've started first.

• 27:50Speaker 04

  To be honest, it is crazy, but you're headlining the whole thing, so. Well, I didn't wanna take up too much space here, I didn't want a big dog, you guys, excuse my language. My name is. That was rude. You might need, you might know my name, my name is of course Rhonda Dee Dee Valentine. And.

• 28:09Speaker 01

  Dee Dee method, the Dee Dee method.

• 28:12Speaker 04

  I have all the Valentine books on my shelf. Yes, I have an acting method of teaching acting, which is, it is called the tangent method, where you start going on tangents about your life and you never stop talking even once. And I find that when the students are listening to the tangents, they go somewhere else. And that's where we start, right? Because when you're going to a commercial audition, let me tell you a story.

• 28:38Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 28:39Speaker 04

  1999.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  Your stories are the best.

• 28:41Speaker 04

  I am walking up and down the street. I am walking up.

• 28:45Speaker 01

  That seems like a circle.

• 28:46Speaker 04

  Around the bar.

• 28:49Speaker 01

  Up and down, this is up and down. A circular stairway. Up and down, up and down.

• 28:54Speaker 04

  You have to understand, the year was 1999. I am walking up and down the street.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  Now that it's 1999, I get it. That's a common, it's a signal.

• 29:02Speaker 04

  This is what we were, we didn't have our phones, right? We didn't have our phones. You guys all know, you have your phones, right? You have your phones. But we didn't have our phones, cause we're walking down the street. We are walking down the street and I encounter a mailman and I said, what's that?

• 29:17Speaker 01

  You didn't know what mail was.

• 29:19Speaker 04

  What? Finish. Cause this was a pivotal moment. I said, I asked the mailman, I said, what's this? And he said, what's this? Do you mean my mailbag? And I said, yes, of course. And he said, okay, it's a mailbag. And I said, but what is it? Now that is where we start. That look of confusion, that picture on your face, where do you go from there? So when you go into a commercial audition and they say, stand on your mark and slate.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  Super clear.

• 29:49Speaker 04

  What you should be thinking about is, what is it? You did a tangent. What is it? You did it, you did the tangent.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  Cause I'm imagining.

• 29:58Speaker 04

  And so now when you go into a commercial audition, you'll know, you'll know.

• 30:02Speaker 01

  But I know the Dee Dee method, you instruct your students to walk into a commercial audition. Hit the mark and look at the casting director and say, what is it? What is it?

• 30:11Speaker 04

  What is it? And then

• 30:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 30:14Speaker 04

  You have all the leverage.

• 30:16Speaker 01

  100%.

• 30:16Speaker 04

  They're forced to explain their commercial back to you. Of course. And then now you're the one going.

• 30:22Speaker 01

  I don't know if I want, I don't know if I want it.

• 30:24Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 30:25Speaker 01

  Can I say? I don't know if I want this commercial. Whoa. Really amazing.

• 30:29Speaker 04

  And where's that coming from?

• 30:31Speaker 01

  I want to say, Dee Dee, I, I, I love what you do. I have a lot of students that find it. I, I have also found there's a rumor in the industry that you are breeding difficult actors. A lot of the people.

• 30:42Speaker 04

  I am. Let's address this.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Address it.

• 30:45Speaker 04

  Let's let me.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  Maybe it's not you, but I think it's being interpreted that people are becoming difficult.

• 30:49Speaker 04

  You know, I appreciate you bringing up this story, um, that I am breeding difficult actors because, um, what I'm actually doing is matchmaking difficult actors.

• 31:00Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 31:01Speaker 04

  I am lining up difficult actors who may be compatible so that they can produce more difficult actors as children.

• 31:08Speaker 01

  Oh. Oh. Okay. So you're literally matchmaking.

• 31:10Speaker 04

  I am matchmaking difficult actors.

• 31:13Speaker 01

  Super clear.

• 31:13Speaker 04

  And I am causing them

• 31:15Speaker 01

  Total sense.

• 31:16Speaker 04

  To have a baby.

• 31:17Speaker 01

  I was kind of meaning breeding metaphorically as in like these people come out. I didn't mean you were actually having.

• 31:22Speaker 04

  You're breeding.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  But you are breeding.

• 31:23Speaker 04

  You know, that is so interesting. I, now I understand what you mean.

• 31:27Speaker 01

  No, but now.

• 31:28Speaker 04

  Now I understand the accusation, but what you've actually done, do you see what just happened there?

• 31:33Speaker 01

  No.

• 31:33Speaker 04

  Do you see what just happened?

• 31:34Speaker 01

  I do.

• 31:35Speaker 04

  I saw it.

• 31:36Speaker 01

  But I'm not going to share. I mean, what it is?

• 31:37Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  I know exactly what happened.

• 31:39Speaker 04

  You know exactly what happened.

• 31:41Speaker 01

  But I don't want to share.

• 31:43Speaker 04

  But you can't share.

• 31:44Speaker 01

  Keep your secrets there.

• 31:46Speaker 04

  Because do you see what just happened there?

• 31:48Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 31:48Speaker 04

  You, you accused me of something, right?

• 31:53Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 31:54Speaker 04

  And then what, so what you were actually saying to me under the accusation was, what is it? Holy shit, that's what happened? Your whole deal, what is it?

• 32:02Speaker 01

  Is that what happened? This is why acting and the discussion of acting and the discussion of technique is so fascinating. Yes.

• 32:11Speaker 04

  It's great.

• 32:12Speaker 01

  Fascinating.

• 32:12Speaker 04

  It is fascinating.

• 32:14Speaker 01

  Fascinating.

• 32:15Speaker 04

  It's great.

• 32:15Speaker 01

  I, I, speaking of, wait, fascinating. Fascinating. Yeah.

• 32:21Speaker 01

  I have something to say. Okay.

• 32:22Speaker 04

  Please do. What? Do you guys want to talk about something? I feel like, I feel like something.

• 32:30Speaker 01

  By the way, you know, our lease is up by the end of the month. By the end of the month, our lease is up. Listen up. Yeah.

• 32:37Speaker 01

  We'll figure it out. Well, I, I wanted to go around and see. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Audition technique.

• 32:41Speaker 04

  Fascinating.

• 32:42Speaker 01

  We talked a little bit about audition techniques.

• 32:44Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 32:44Speaker 01

  Throwing out some of those phrases you say to, to, to nail the audition. I think people are going to watch this to find exactly how to nail that audition. Let's talk about the audition. What are the tips? What do people have? Well, can I say it's so fascinating listening to your audition technique? Because it's a lot of no noise and you're kind of yelling at them. No noise. Uh, I always beg, implore, demand of my students to eat an entire grapefruit, skin and all.

• 33:10Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 33:11Speaker 01

  Before you walk into the room.

• 33:13Speaker 04

  Okay. And how does that affect movement?

• 33:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:17Speaker 01

  Eat it as fast as you can with purpose, with intention. Yes. And get into that room. Yeah. It takes your mind off the enormity of the task in front of you.

• 33:28Speaker 04

  And the task in front of you.

• 33:29Speaker 01

  Is to.

• 33:31Speaker 04

  Walk around.

• 33:31Speaker 01

  Walk around.

• 33:33Speaker 04

  The enormity.

• 33:34Speaker 01

  Fire. And I say you hold, we were talking about, uh, finding your power.

• 33:39Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 33:40Speaker 01

  We're talking about.

• 33:40Speaker 04

  Your leverage, your.

• 33:41Speaker 01

  That possibly some of your, your students are, are, you know, being misconstrued as difficult.

• 33:47Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 33:47Speaker 01

  I, I run into the same issue. My students refuse to speak at an audition. They're moving around, but I'm like, don't resist the temptation to use the text. Yes. Don't say a word. Such an important lesson. Hold your ground. Hold your ground. Hold your ground.

• 34:06Speaker 04

  Stand your ground. That's exactly.

• 34:08Speaker 01

  Stand your, stand your ground. It's a fight. Stand your ground. They're going to be begging you to say something. When you're walking around the block. Mm-hmm.

• 34:16Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 34:17Speaker 01

  When you're walking down the street. Down the street, up and down.

• 34:19Speaker 04

  Down, up and down. Up and down the street. And what does the grapefruit do?

• 34:22Speaker 01

  The grapefruit, uh, well, there's wonderful, I mean, enzyme, the enzyme, the level of enzymes. Oh, just kind of. I mean, the. Kind of rhymed along. The gut, the gut.

• 34:31Speaker 04

  He's recommending this digestively.

• 34:34Speaker 01

  High level of. High level of enzymes, the gut health. The lipids. Yeah. I will say I've heard a lot of people get out of the audition coaching that you go through going, my acid reflux has never been worse.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  The citrus combination with the tart has been really, really bad. Certain amount of people on antidepressants that are just going, just not working with the statins. Well, and, and you're just not made for the biz then. If that's, if that, and it's a tough biz. Can we just say that out loud?

• 35:03Speaker 04

  It's a tough biz.

• 35:04Speaker 01

  Tough. Tough.

• 35:06Speaker 04

  Can we say that?

• 35:06Speaker 01

  Tough.

• 35:07Speaker 04

  Are we allowed to say that?

• 35:09Speaker 01

  Yeah. Is it fine to say?

• 35:10Speaker 04

  Is it fine to say that? I'd say it's really fucking tough.

• 35:15Speaker 01

  It's called show business. You know what it should be called?

• 35:21Speaker 01

  Tough business. Business show. Oh. Cause it's not, it's more a business. And show us the business. And show us the biz, show us your business if you have to.

• 35:31Speaker 04

  Show me.

• 35:31Speaker 01

  Whoa. I mean, if you have to get ahead. Show us your business.

• 35:34Speaker 04

  Show us your business.

• 35:35Speaker 01

  That's the other thing I teach. If it's not working in the room. If it's not working in the room, show your junk, show your business.

• 35:41Speaker 04

  Show your business.

• 35:42Speaker 01

  Show your junk. Show your, it can't hurt.

• 35:45Speaker 04

  It can't hurt. It, cause it shouldn't. It shouldn't.

• 35:50Speaker 01

  You can always tell when a kid has come from Sebastian Dael. If the audition goes like this.

• 35:57Speaker 01

  With a really bad stomach, they walk in a circle for five minutes and then they pull out their penis.

• 36:02Speaker 04

  Or they're taking a shit in the bathroom and no one can get in and they're like prepping.

• 36:07Speaker 01

  You always know it's a Sebastian Dael student.

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• 38:20Speaker 01

  You can tell if the room, if it's not the right room for it, you can say, I take it back. I'm so, I apologize.

• 38:25Speaker 04

  You can always take it back.

• 38:27Speaker 01

  You can always take it back. You can always take it. There's always a take two.

• 38:32Speaker 04

  This is what so confused me.

• 38:35Speaker 01

  Sorry, didn't, didn't no one work.

• 38:36Speaker 04

  All of these people who got in trouble for that kind of thing. Why didn't they just take it back?

• 38:41Speaker 01

  Yes. Yeah.

• 38:42Speaker 04

  Why didn't they just say, oops, never mind?

• 38:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:44Speaker 04

  Oops, never mind.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Say I take it back.

• 38:46Speaker 04

  Say I take back, take back seats.

• 38:48Speaker 01

  I still audition a fair amount, I still audition a fair amount myself. And I start and I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll take a, a deep cleansing breath. My feet are firmly planted on the ground. I'll start the line and I'll just go, take two.

• 39:05Speaker 01

  I'll just say, no, no. You get nervous. I get so nervous on the first word, but here's how I deal with it. I just, I say, this is going to be my take. It's going to be my second take. I go, take two. Immediately. That lets everyone know.

• 39:19Speaker 04

  That you're starting.

• 39:20Speaker 01

  I'm human and I'm starting over.

• 39:23Speaker 04

  Wait, take two?

• 39:26Speaker 04

  Take two, take two?

• 39:27Speaker 01

  Take two.

• 39:29Speaker 04

  And also it's showing you, you know their language, take two.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  Do you feel like you get through it in take two? Barely. Often, often not, often not.

• 39:42Speaker 01

  Often not. Often not. Kind of choking near the end.

• 39:49Speaker 04

  Sebastian, it's hard.

• 39:50Speaker 01

  Why do you still do it? I mean. I don't know. I'm simply honest. I don't know.

• 39:54Speaker 04

  You don't know.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 39:58Speaker 01

  Have you ever booked anything? Nope.

• 40:04Speaker 01

  Not one.

• 40:05Speaker 04

  Not one thing, Sebastian.

• 40:06Speaker 01

  Not one fucking thing.

• 40:09Speaker 04

  Sebastian, when did you decide, you know, you're going around, you're not booking anything. You're getting really nervous.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:16Speaker 04

  When did you decide, I need to take what I know and teach other people this? You're not booking.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  I just was, my back was against the wall.

• 40:31Speaker 01

  I'm like, I can either, you know, just fall into a heap of, you know, human flesh on the ground here.

• 40:40Speaker 04

  That's LA.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  I can hope to meet, uh, Jandah. Out there, start a new life. Probably not gonna happen. It's probably not gonna happen. Not gonna happen. And like, it was just a real look at yourself in the mirror. Take two. And just, I gotta figure this out. And that's when I like. That's when you developed your method. That's when I developed my method. Yeah, that's when I developed my method. Of movement coaching.

• 41:07Speaker 04

  Going to the bathroom and moving without talking.

• 41:10Speaker 01

  My lowest app. Beautiful.

• 41:12Speaker 04

  I mean, the human experience starts when they, when you look out and you go, I gotta figure this out.

• 41:16Speaker 01

  Cause I think we were all at one point trying to be actors.

• 41:19Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 41:19Speaker 01

  And decided to do our take two. Raise your hand if you're still auditioning. I mean, I am.

• 41:25Speaker 04

  I'm in the dog park. I'm up and down.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  The dog park?

• 41:29Speaker 04

  Actors access. Keep going. Are you scouting at the dog park?

• 41:33Speaker 01

  Sorry.

• 41:34Speaker 04

  I blur the line.

• 41:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm curious. I think you have the same question I do. Yeah. Is dog park actors access? Are you calling that like a metaphor or are you actually treating a dog park?

• 41:43Speaker 04

  Actors access. I'm in the dog park.

• 41:44Speaker 01

  I still can't figure it out. I don't know. Okay, here's a good question. I don't know either. What's your favorite insecurity to use as against your student?

• 41:51Speaker 04

  Favorite what?

• 41:53Speaker 01

  A student has an insecurity. What's your favorite one to weasel in there?

• 41:56Speaker 04

  I love talking acting teachers.

• 41:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 41:57Speaker 04

  Oh, I love when a woman is too tall. I love when a woman is too tall and you make her feel like she is the tallest woman on planet.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  You shame her. You make her feel like she's.

• 42:08Speaker 04

  I love when, well, well, you got a big story, huh? You got a big story. I love looking all the way up at her.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  Enormous. You're enormous. Whoa.

• 42:20Speaker 04

  Well done.

• 42:21Speaker 01

  What's going on up there? Watch out for the ceiling fan lady.

• 42:24Speaker 04

  I love going, what is the air like up there? Do you get lightheaded and then pairing her up with the shortest guy in the class? Yes. And kind of going, something's not working.

• 42:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:35Speaker 04

  Why? Why can't you do a rom com? You're too tall.

• 42:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good one. You know what I love is, um, I go straight for, you know, a lot of my students are teenagers. I, five words, again, positive. Sorry, I can't hear you. Whoa. I just tell them I can't hear them over and over and over and over again until they're screaming in my face.

• 42:57Speaker 04

  Really remind, that affects me.

• 43:00Speaker 01

  Most of your students are teenagers. Are some not? Some of them are not. I have a couple of people that just got out of the military. That they're continuing education.

• 43:09Speaker 04

  They're doing a.

• 43:10Speaker 01

  They want help with monologues. They want help with monologues to go to acting school. I gotta type them. So yeah, G I Bill, they can go to school. Great. So I'll come in. I don't tell them I can't hear them. Usually I can hear them a little too much. Right. What monologues do you give into the, the vets? Oh, uh, there's the, the laughing wild. There's the one, the crazy woman that talks for a long time. I use that one.

• 43:32Speaker 04

  You ever do in the kitchen?

• 43:33Speaker 01

  Oh, doubt is a big one. I give.

• 43:35Speaker 04

  Doubt.

• 43:35Speaker 01

  Oh, doubt. I thought you were gonna say Doubtfire, Mrs. Doubt, something from Mrs. Doubtfire. I had one.

• 43:40Speaker 04

  Physical movement, movement.

• 43:42Speaker 01

  I had one, one tank operator, one tank operator. Okay. Movement, movement.

• 43:49Speaker 04

  Movement.

• 43:50Speaker 01

  One tank operator. It's right there. One tank operator used Mrs. Doubtfire as a monologue. A tank operator? Yeah, got them into, of course. Juilliard. Kansas State. Oh, okay. Kansas State.

• 44:03Speaker 04

  And they have a theater to pro.

• 44:05Speaker 01

  They do. This is actually really huge. They just inherited all of the costumes. Manhattan, Kansas, all of the costumes from the local opera house. And now they're gonna be doing Candide next year as a play. So it's gonna be fantastic.

• 44:18Speaker 04

  No, Candide.

• 44:20Speaker 01

  Do you hear from your students after they've been placed? Do you hear from? Yeah. And check. Well, I'm DMing them once a month.

• 44:27Speaker 04

  How are you?

• 44:28Speaker 01

  How are you? We're friends now. You don't have to call me Mr. Billy. Update, please. Update, update, update. Can I put you on my website? Can I put you on my website?

• 44:37Speaker 04

  I saw you do that podcast. I listened to that podcast.

• 44:40Speaker 01

  What's college like? Have you had your first kiss yet? I just wanna see what they're up to.

• 44:44Speaker 04

  That's awesome.

• 44:45Speaker 01

  Let's see what they're doing. That's wonderful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about you? What's the, what's the piece of advice that you give or a note you give that just wrecks people? Yeah, your insecurity to pry on.

• 44:55Speaker 04

  I like to do, when I get an actor come in, they got a speech and they're adding a lot of junk. Mmm. I say, you're bringing sand to the beach?

• 45:04Speaker 01

  I love that. Now, I've got, this has made me curious. When you talk, I can't tell if you're talking about a human or a dog. Oh, right, right, right.

• 45:11Speaker 04

  Well, I, I, well, that's the problem with the Petco residency.

• 45:15Speaker 01

  And now I'm wondering if you just have the sandy dogs.

• 45:18Speaker 04

  No, okay, sometimes I go, don't bring the beach. Yeah, I understand.

• 45:21Speaker 01

  Keep going.

• 45:22Speaker 04

  But with actors, sometimes if they're bringing sand to the beach, which means they're bringing dirt on the ground, they're bringing bone into the bed. Yeah. And you go, just, just say the words.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  Bringing bone to the bed.

• 45:33Speaker 04

  You're bringing the bone to the bed.

• 45:35Speaker 01

  Bringing bone to the bed is a great phrase.

• 45:37Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 45:38Speaker 01

  You're just adding.

• 45:39Speaker 04

  Yeah. So this is what I do. If it's a dog, I give them a bone. If it's a human, I give them a bag of hot cheetos and a cigarette.

• 45:47Speaker 04

  Just say the speech.

• 45:48Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 45:48Speaker 04

  Eat the hot cheetos and smoke the cigarette.

• 45:50Speaker 01

  That's literally a human bone.

• 45:52Speaker 04

  That does feel like.

• 45:54Speaker 01

  That's, that's the human version of a bone.

• 45:56Speaker 04

  That would motivate me. I don't know what it is. Would motivate me to do more. And we got tons of that in the Petco snack office, the cheetos. So you just sit there.

• 46:03Speaker 01

  The hot cheetos.

• 46:04Speaker 04

  The hot cheetos. Just eat and breathe. Eat and breathe and speak. And all of a sudden, they're dropping all this bullshit they add into the speech.

• 46:14Speaker 01

  And then you're just saying the lines.

• 46:16Speaker 04

  All of a sudden, 12th Night comes alive. And then I say, up, down. When they start adding stuff, I go, leave it, leave it, leave it. When a girl with viola tries to go, oh, I, I left no ring with her. She's trying to be quirky like Zooey Deschanel. I go, drop.

• 46:33Speaker 01

  Drop, yeah, leave it.

• 46:34Speaker 04

  Leave it.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  And it's so funny, you're the screen one. You're the film person because all you reference is this stage is old Chekhovian plays. She's, there, he's so film.

• 46:46Speaker 04

  You know what it is? It might be the text, might be theater, but I'm, I'm direct, I'm, I'm teaching for just here.

• 46:51Speaker 01

  Well, you gotta see, when, when he's doing the leave it and stuff, this is where the film comes in. Cause the actress face, it's like when a dog is looking at a treat. It's like this. You can't look away. Yeah. Yeah.

• 46:59Speaker 04

  And then I go paw.

• 47:01Speaker 01

  Paw. And what does that mean?

• 47:03Speaker 04

  Shake.

• 47:04Speaker 01

  Shake.

• 47:04Speaker 04

  Shake. How does your character shake?

• 47:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. Dude, what do you do? You know, you, we all hear stories. We all hear stories. So many stories. We all hear stories of some pets, dogs who can make human sounds. So many stories.

• 47:20Speaker 04

  I could drop, throw a penny in a bucket. I'd get a thousand stories about this. I'm going up and down. I'm going up and down.

• 47:27Speaker 01

  If you run across one of your dog act who can like, cause some of these dogs can parrot humans. Are you thinking jackpot?

• 47:36Speaker 04

  Jackpot.

• 47:37Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 47:37Speaker 04

  I found a.

• 47:39Speaker 01

  Like if, if a dog like, I love, I love her. Like a husky. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:44Speaker 04

  I had a golden doodle pick up a David Mamet play with its mouth. Start shaking it around and I went, go into the speech, go into the monologue, go into the monologue.

• 47:52Speaker 01

  Not the exact same.

• 47:53Speaker 04

  And I swear to God.

• 47:54Speaker 01

  Not the exact same. Again, a play. Not, not, not, yes. A play, a play. Right, yes.

• 47:59Speaker 04

  Right, right then, the dog.

• 48:01Speaker 01

  Go into the monologue. And I would say, did it say? Did it say anything or did it just bark at you?

• 48:06Speaker 04

  It started going into the monologue.

• 48:06Speaker 01

  No, it didn't say. What did it say?

• 48:10Speaker 04

  I don't remember the speech.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  So do you not, okay, so did it bark or?

• 48:17Speaker 04

  I don't remember. So it was kinda like, it's like.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, mamet's really choppy.

• 48:24Speaker 01

  So I think, I'll say, I don't think it was the exact same. Yeah.

• 48:29Speaker 04

  And I heard it. I went, oh my God, that's the, that's, that's mamet.

• 48:33Speaker 01

  That's mamet.

• 48:34Speaker 04

  Cicado, cicado, go, go in, go in.

• 48:36Speaker 01

  Go in. Faster, shorter.

• 48:39Speaker 04

  It was amazing.

• 48:39Speaker 01

  That's amazing.

• 48:40Speaker 04

  No one, no, no one would pick up the phone when I said I got a dog that does mamet. Nobody would pick up the phone. And who are you calling?

• 48:48Speaker 01

  Were you just calling the front of the Petco?

• 48:49Speaker 04

  I was calling Petco's. I'm calling, um, America's Got Talent would not pick up the phone.

• 48:56Speaker 01

  Pick up the phone. Not even America's Got Talent would pick it up? Feels like right up there.

• 49:02Speaker 04

  And they go, maybe they don't have a landline anymore. And I was like, this is the landline. I'm calling the landline.

• 49:06Speaker 01

  I gotta, I will not get rid of my landline. Ever. I bet you won't. I bet you guys won't. In case three drop out. Three can drop out, we still have another. Can I just ask, can you guys please tell me what your studio smells like? Cause I think I know. Mmm, I guess I'll start with one smell and we'll just, you know, go through it.

• 49:24Speaker 04

  Go the whole story. Do the process, yeah.

• 49:27Speaker 01

  It's a, there's a staleness in the air. There is. That smells like water's been around for a while. But it is lightly masked by cinnamon. A lot of cinnamon scented candles. Yeah, cinnamon scented candles. To mask the staleness. And then barbecue, cause we have a beautiful barbecue outdoor right next door. Yes. And we go to town on that BBQ. Every Friday. Every Friday is. Meat Friday. Meat Friday is what we call it. Ribs, uh, tenderloin. Try tip. Try tip. Sausage. They're doing sausage. Homemade chickens, homemade sausages.

• 50:01Speaker 04

  And who's there at Meat Friday? Is it just the two of you? They eat all that meat together?

• 50:08Speaker 01

  As much meat as we can.

• 50:10Speaker 04

  Just stop for your student.

• 50:11Speaker 01

  A janet will come once in a while, be very confused of why she got out of the car to Meat Fridays. A janet?

• 50:17Speaker 04

  A janet, a janet wanders by, is attracted to the smell of meat.

• 50:22Speaker 01

  A janet will get out of the car and he immediately go, oh, it's Meat Fridays. I always forget. Right. I always forget. So I picked up a janet in downtown. I've driven her and I go, oh, it's meat Friday. She'll just kind of watch as we kind of consume.

• 50:34Speaker 04

  Now, what the fuck are you guys gonna do when your lease is up? Do you have any plans?

• 50:38Speaker 01

  I don't want to think about it. I don't want to.

• 50:41Speaker 04

  Now, why is it, is your lease up? Is, are they raising the rent? Is it gonna be too high? Are they kicking you out? Or are they just?

• 50:48Speaker 01

  It's a mix of a couple things, I would say. The health department. The health department came through. Through. They came through. We're, they were very nice. They were so nice. They were so nice. You actually, I do want to give a shout out. That health department is so nice. LA County. North Hollywood, Burbank area, Valley Health Department. You guys were so, despite the interminably long list of violations. You were so lovely. I didn't know health department come to businesses. Yeah. I thought they only came to restaurants.

• 51:21Speaker 04

  They don't come to acting classes.

• 51:23Speaker 01

  Here's a little secret.

• 51:24Speaker 04

  Are you guys operating?

• 51:25Speaker 01

  We sell sandwiches. They said, you're the only non-restaurant we're gonna give a letter rating to. I've never seen a restaurant.

• 51:34Speaker 04

  I've never seen a restaurant in my life.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  We have a C. We have a C minus in the front of the window. We wrote C. C. And we turned it into characters.

• 51:48Speaker 03

  Oh, hey. Nice to see you there.

• 51:49Speaker 04

  Sorry, we were just like in the middle of an episode.

• 51:51Speaker 03

  We love the episode, it's so funny, right?

• 51:53Speaker 04

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• 51:54Speaker 03

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• 51:55Speaker 04

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• 52:15Speaker 04

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• 52:19Speaker 03

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• 52:22Speaker 03

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• 52:23Speaker 04

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• 52:27Speaker 01

  C, characters come to life. C, characters come to life. So, characters are different words.

• 52:33Speaker 04

  Characters come to life. C, characters come to life.

• 52:38Speaker 01

  To life. You wouldn't believe where we use that C. That C rating is kind of all over.

• 52:43Speaker 04

  I really thought it stood for characters, no.

• 52:44Speaker 01

  C, characters come to life.

• 52:47Speaker 04

  C, characters come to life. Wow. You gotta get the attention of these actors driving around somehow.

• 52:54Speaker 01

  Yes. I don't know if we're getting shut down.

• 52:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:57Speaker 01

  Or if the lease, we just keep saying our lease is up. Yeah. I think that masks the embarrassment that the health department is.

• 53:03Speaker 04

  Of the C. I mean, C is just, they're gonna check on you a little more.

• 53:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, we'll see what's happening. We'll see what's happening.

• 53:12Speaker 01

  We hope to see some improvements.

• 53:16Speaker 04

  Are, are you working on any improvements?

• 53:19Speaker 01

  We're working on some improvements. Some different ideas of how to act, I would say. We're improving our craft. Did you mean improvements in the building? Oh.

• 53:26Speaker 04

  I assumed in the building, but if the acting relates.

• 53:29Speaker 01

  We're not getting rid of our rat drawer. And that's something I told Omar when he came to check.

• 53:33Speaker 04

  Okay, okay. That's disgusting.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  No.

• 53:36Speaker 04

  And I work in a pet co.

• 53:38Speaker 01

  Well, guys, I mean, this has been so exciting and wonderful. I, I think, what's next for everybody? I mean, are you guys gonna expand, grow into something new, like?

• 53:46Speaker 04

  As an actor and a teacher.

• 53:48Speaker 01

  And maybe also, what's your perfect advice for the perfect student?

• 53:53Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 53:53Speaker 01

  Cause there's so many clips on my Instagram about the best advice. There are no perfect students. No.

• 54:01Speaker 03

  Speak more on them.

• 54:05Speaker 01

  Felt like you had more to say.

• 54:08Speaker 01

  My perfect advice. For actors. For actors, uh, is that there are no perfect students. I would tell each student, you're not perfect. You never will be, so let it go. Right?

• 54:23Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 54:24Speaker 01

  Let it go.

• 54:24Speaker 04

  Do you ever feel, I feel a little torn?

• 54:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:27Speaker 04

  Just, just us, between us.

• 54:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:29Speaker 04

  When I have an actor on auto-enrollment, that's a perfect student.

• 54:33Speaker 01

  And they're not showing up. Well.

• 54:35Speaker 04

  When they don't know.

• 54:36Speaker 01

  I didn't think about that.

• 54:37Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 54:38Speaker 01

  You're right. That is a perfect student. A perfect student is one who doesn't show up.

• 54:43Speaker 04

  Has been enrolled and kind of forgets.

• 54:45Speaker 01

  Doesn't show up, pays on time.

• 54:48Speaker 01

  Perfect student.

• 54:49Speaker 04

  That's a perfect student.

• 54:50Speaker 01

  That's a fantastic student. Double booked with chess club, yeah, that's a perfect student.

• 54:54Speaker 04

  That's a perfect student. But no perfect actors.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  No perfect actors.

• 54:58Speaker 04

  No.

• 54:58Speaker 01

  No actors.

• 55:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'd say a good actor, obedient.

• 55:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 55:05Speaker 04

  And cut your hair.

• 55:06Speaker 01

  Cut your hair.

• 55:06Speaker 04

  And cut your hair.

• 55:07Speaker 01

  Great advice.

• 55:08Speaker 04

  Cut your damn hair. I see some of these boys come in and read, and I go, cut your damn fucking hair.

• 55:13Speaker 01

  And doesn't piss in their crate, knows to piss outside.

• 55:15Speaker 04

  Piss outside, nowhere to take a shit.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:18Speaker 04

  Do it with ease, don't push it.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  Right? Don't push that shit.

• 55:21Speaker 04

  Don't push it.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  I guess my perfect advice would be, wear a button down. You can get it at Ross, you can get it at TJ Maxx. Wear khakis. Wear some nice, don't wear tennis shoes. Tucked in. Tucked in.

• 55:33Speaker 04

  Tucked in.

• 55:33Speaker 01

  Belt. And smile, don't forget to smile, and don't

• 55:38Speaker 01

  show on your face how you felt about the performance until you've left the lecture hall or, uh, kind of classroom that you performed in for one teacher during the audition. It's kind of my big advice.

• 55:49Speaker 04

  You can just have a treat after the audition.

• 55:51Speaker 01

  A treat? Actually, everyone deserves a treat.

• 55:53Speaker 04

  A treat is so important. You know, my advice, I'll keep it brief, I'll keep it snappy. It was the year 1999, I was walking.

• 56:00Speaker 01

  Back there.

• 56:00Speaker 04

  Everywhere I could find a bathroom, I was walking around, I was going, bathroom, bathroom, bathroom, bathroom. Everywhere you go, bathroom, bathroom. Bathroom, bathroom, bathroom, bathroom in the Chili's, bathroom in the library, bathroom in the Ralph's, bathroom in the Vons. You're just clocking them.

• 56:16Speaker 01

  Almost 30 years ago, 99.

• 56:20Speaker 01

  Almost.

• 56:21Speaker 04

  This was 30 years ago.

• 56:23Speaker 01

  Notable enough story from 30 years ago to tell.

• 56:28Speaker 04

  And I am walking around, I am taking note, I am saying, that's a bathroom, count it, that's a bathroom, count it, that's a bathroom, count it, that's a bathroom, count it. I'm counting upwards on my fingers until I reach the number 10.

• 56:39Speaker 01

  Okay, so 10 bathrooms. This has been like a manic episode.

• 56:44Speaker 04

  Let, let her finish.

• 56:45Speaker 01

  Sorry, sorry.

• 56:47Speaker 04

  And when I hit the number 10, I realized, I am 10 minutes late for an audition. So, when you go in to a commercial audition, you have.

• 56:59Speaker 01

  Don't get distracted.

• 57:01Speaker 04

  You have to check the time.

• 57:03Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 57:04Speaker 04

  That's it. You have to check the time.

• 57:06Speaker 01

  You have to check the time.

• 57:08Speaker 04

  You have to check the time.

• 57:09Speaker 01

  You have to know the time.

• 57:10Speaker 04

  That happened to you 30 years ago?

• 57:12Speaker 01

  Your acting advice is you have to check the time. You have to know what time the audition is, what time you've left your house.

• 57:18Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 57:18Speaker 01

  You need to know.

• 57:19Speaker 04

  And what time it is now is helpful.

• 57:22Speaker 01

  Now.

• 57:22Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 57:23Speaker 01

  How much time it's gonna take to park.

• 57:25Speaker 04

  Do you have any advice, the floor?

• 57:27Speaker 01

  I feel like my advice, my, my, it's so obvious, I feel like, right? My character, would you guys know about me? I feel like my advice is so obvious. What is it?

• 57:36Speaker 04

  Have meat?

• 57:38Speaker 01

  Huh?

• 57:38Speaker 04

  Eat meat?

• 57:39Speaker 01

  No. It's so obvious. I mean, I feel like I shouldn't even say it, it's so obvious. Say it.

• 57:44Speaker 04

  But just say it, of course.

• 57:47Speaker 01

  You don't have to say it. Say it, you probably should say it.

• 57:52Speaker 04

  Okay, he's grumpy.

• 57:53Speaker 01

  You don't have to say it. But you probably should. My advice is when you get that opportunity.

• 58:04Speaker 01

  One person is going to fail. One person is gonna rise. And one person is going to accept that they are the person. And it's time for you to step up and into the role.

• 58:18Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  I have chills. That's amazing.

• 58:21Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 58:22Speaker 01

  I have chills. Do you really? I have chills near my ankles. That's the only area that I feel chills. Well, that's, I forgot. I don't get goosebumps here, anywhere other than.

• 58:33Speaker 04

  Just like by the sock.

• 58:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, by, by the sock region. Yep, well, because of the accident, you don't feel it. I know, I don't feel it. And I know. And you know why. I know why.

• 58:43Speaker 04

  Whoa, did you guys see that? Something just ran past, I think it was a jandit.

• 58:50Speaker 01

  She shouldn't be this north.

• 58:53Speaker 04

  She shouldn't be this far north.

• 58:55Speaker 01

  She's. She knows where she belongs. She's, that's why she moved so quickly. She's out of the jandit zone. She's out of the jandit zone, she needs to get back. Yeah. Someone's looking for her.

• 59:08Speaker 04

  Guys, I, I, I hope to see you at the North Hollywood.

• 59:11Speaker 01

  By the way, I just want to say, it has been, like, I do so many of these panels. And I learn nothing. I feel like from any of my colleagues.

• 59:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:21Speaker 01

  I'm like, you know, save it for someone else. I've learned so much from all. So much.

• 59:27Speaker 03

  This has been illuminating.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  Discovery. Beautiful. This was been, it's a beautiful panel. Beautiful panel. Fascinating.

• 59:35Speaker 03

  A beautiful panel.

• 59:36Speaker 01

  Fascinating. Fascinating. I feel so grateful for our students who've just learned so much today. I mean. These students are lucky.

• 59:42Speaker 03

  To get these minds in one table, beautiful table. I hope it's behind the biggest paywall. Yeah.

• 59:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:48Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 59:49Speaker 01

  I hope we get rich off this. Boy, that would be nice.

• 59:51Speaker 04

  Rich off this.

• 59:53Speaker 03

  It's time to pay the bills, huh? Well, maybe, maybe we should end this with like a cleansing breath out or maybe you could

• 59:59Speaker 01

  lead us in some sort of movement workshop. Oh, well. Something fun, what could we do? I mean, if everyone wants to just start loosening your shoulders.

• 1:00:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's great.

• 1:00:08Speaker 03

  A warm down, a warm down.

• 1:00:09Speaker 04

  A warm down.

• 1:00:10Speaker 03

  A warm down. A warm down.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  Warm down.

• 1:00:14Speaker 04

  Great.

• 1:00:14Speaker 03

  Nice.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Now, maybe, maybe.

• 1:00:18Speaker 03

  Neck up, warm down.

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  Neck up, warm down.

• 1:00:21Speaker 01

  And tip your neck all the way back. Make sure it feels crunchy.

• 1:00:25Speaker 03

  All the way back. Oh, God.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  So you can see the top of your throat.

• 1:00:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:30Speaker 01

  See.

• 1:00:31Speaker 04

  See the top of your throat.

• 1:00:32Speaker 03

  See the top of your throat.

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  That hurts.

• 1:00:35Speaker 01

  Doesn't that feel? You know, it should hurt a little. It should hurt a little bit.

• 1:00:43Speaker 04

  Oh, that's perfect.

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  And then, yeah.

• 1:00:45Speaker 03

  That's amazing.

• 1:00:46Speaker 04

  One deep breath out.

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:00:56Speaker 01

  Health department. Leave us alone. Leave us alone. You're a bitch. Please, please. And if you see a jandit, let me know. This has been Artists on Artists on Artists. Answering the question now. That's why we call it showbiz. Live from the beautiful Dynasty Typewriter. Give it up for our guest, Will Ferrell.

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