Why The Pentagon Tried To Censor This UFO Book

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' health care to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the HouseMajorityPac.com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

• 0:41Jesse Michels?

  This might be the craziest American alchemy episode of all time.

• 0:48Jesse Michels?

  In the video you're about to watch, we reveal some extremely hardcore details about how UFO programs actually work.

• 1:00Jesse Michels?

  Spoiler alert: It involves rounding up people from third-world countries who have psychic capabilities to systematically summon or lure in UFOs. It also involves electromagnetic pulse weaponry used to down these crafts.

• 1:18Jesse Michels?

  And of course, it involves reverse-engineering the technology. What you end up with is a parallel reality, a breakaway technology chain, and the ability to hide all of these things in mountain and undersea bases all over the world that are sometimes jointly operated by non-humans and humans.

• 1:43Jesse Michels?

  But before we get into that, we've got to back up and report on the latest UFO news, because the government isn't talking about any of these darker details we'll get into in this video. But they are beginning to admit that UFOs are real. And we have come a long way. I mean, even Neil deGrasse Tyson is now admitting that all of this stuff is probably real.

• 2:06Speaker 00

  High rank started reporting. I said, all right, I have to jump in here.

• 2:12Jesse Michels?

  On May 8th, 2026, the Department of War released hundreds of UFO-related documents, video, and audio, with President Trump ordering the release of government files related to ET life and UFOs, posting a very poignant message to the American people.

• 2:32Jesse Michels?

  The Department of War's UFO release webpage already has 500 million hits on it since then. That is more than the entire population of the United States.

• 2:45Jesse Michels?

  If you haven't already seen the drop, it's not the vault we were hoping for with an alien autopsy tape, pictures of historical crash retrievals like Roswell, or a little gray in a freezer at Wright-Patterson. The release was pretty vanilla. It was more like a UFO starter pack.

• 3:04Jesse Michels?

  A lot of the documents in this drop weren't even newly declassified despite being presented that way. They'd been hiding in plain sight for ages. Now they're just getting a stamp of approval. Again, if that's what it takes for the academic and scientific consensus to shift and to convince people like Neil deGrasse Tyson to admit this stuff is real, then they weren't doing science in the first place. They were just waiting for establishment institutions to make it acceptable for them to look into this stuff. On the other side of this issue, a lot of people are asking, why now? Is this some sort of narrative distraction from more prosaic but darker trends in Iran, around Epstein, or whatever else? Because the timing and the motivation of this UFO data dump does seem cynical, and

• 3:49Jesse Michels?

  I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is a distraction from Epstein, Iran, and all sorts of other problems we have. And yet, a lot of these podcasters and independent media are now flipping on UFOs entirely, calling it a psyop. This is also not good first principles thinking. UFOs can be very real, of serious consequence to the nature of reality, and they might also be getting used as a distraction. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. Someone can tell. Tell you to look at the moon and pick your pocket, but that doesn't make the moon fake. Give the people some blurry videos they have no hope of making sense of, drown the truth out in static and call it transparency. Release a poorly curated batch. Don't separate the wheat from the chaff. And if something draws a bad reaction,

• 4:33Jesse Michels?

  find some way to stigmatize it after the fact. If people react well to the drop, continue to inch forward. But the release of this new information wasn't entirely meaningless. And it's especially hard to laugh off in one particular place: space.

• 4:55Jesse Michels?

  You see, this whole drop puts NASA, our premier civilian space agency, in a bind. Because they've been playing dumb about their own astronauts seeing UFOs, and they've been gaslighting the public since their inception in 1958.

• 5:09Speaker 02

  NASA is not a place that's gonna hide its head in the sand.

• 5:14Jesse Michels?

  That's kind of harder to do when the Department of War, the Pentagon itself, is now admitting that these astronaut sightings were actually unresolved. Astronaut Gene Cernan, the last man to walk on the moon, experienced bizarre flashes, distant blinking objects, and even getting hit with blinding flashes of light in the dark while he slept, like a train coming at you only with a flash. Gene goes on to insist, "Something is out there." And Houston says, "We don't doubt it, Gene." Now, this is all very serendipitous, because I just got back from Japan, where I spent a lot of time with a NASA historian there named Takano Jousen.

• 5:57Jesse Michels?

  Jousen happened to be a very close friend of Gene Cernan's. And then he went on to reveal something absolutely mind-blowing to me.

• 6:06Speaker 03

  UFOを見たのは間違いないです。

• 6:09Jesse Michels?

  Why are you sure?

• 6:11Speaker 03

  あの、僕はあのアポロ17号のキャプテンのジンサナ船長の と仲良くて、自宅行って一緒に食事したりとか、外でも食事したりとかしたことあって、 ある質問をしたことあるんですね。 どうしてアポロは17号で終焉を迎えたんでしょうか？ したら、彼の答えは、二度と来るなって言われたって。

• 6:35Jesse Michels?

  Really?

• 6:36Speaker 03

  うん。 あの、これイヤホンじゃないですよ。 こう脳に直接語りかけてきた。

• 6:47Jesse Michels?

  Pretty wild, and I don't think to the skeptics out there that Takano Jausen was coordinated at all with the Pentagon. But as Houston said, we don't doubt it, Gene. What you know if you watch this show is that things like this happen all the time. Disparate data points from around the world, all corroborating the same UFO truths. You see, the government wants a slow and steady disclosure drip, but at American Alchemy, we want to speed things up. Maybe the best way to expose the real UFO truth isn't in this Department of War data dump, but in a sci-fi book written by whistleblower and former American Alchemy guest Jake Barber.

• 7:25Speaker 04

  It's so blatant and in-your-face and so real, it doesn't register as exciting in that format.

• 7:34Jesse Michels?

  Who is Jake Barber, you ask? He's a pilot, former Air Force, Gracie Black Belt, and he's an all-American badass. On paper, he was an Air Force aircraft mechanic. But that was just a cover. He held a NATO top-secret security clearance, deployed on presidential support missions, hunted war criminals in Bosnia, and later slipped into the shadows as a contractor flying UFO crash retrievals as a helicopter pilot.

• 8:03Jesse Michels?

  And according to Jake, one of those crafts that he retrieved seemed to be alive, with a consciousness of its own attached to it. And for a few terrifying moments mid-flight, that consciousness possessed him.

• 8:19Jesse Michels?

  Jake was the black hand of an unnamed aerospace giant. He won't say who, but here's a clue.

• 8:27Speaker 04

  Look, man, if you took two guesses, you'd get both of them right on the first try.

• 8:33Jesse Michels?

  There you go. When I interviewed Jake, his claims were so wild and so ahead of the curve that most people's brains just bounced right off them and into the comments section to roast Logan Paul's cameo instead. And what happened there is kind of the point. Jake's novel is called Sentinels of Ether, and it's written by a ghostwriter under the pen name Alva Douglas. I'm linking the manuscript in the description of this video. This was a novel deemed so dangerous by the Pentagon that they spent six months reviewing just 20 pages of the book. They escalated it to subject matter experts in classified special access programs

• 9:15Jesse Michels?

  and came back with seven pages of redactions. And that was just from 10% of the full 120,000-word manuscript. Why would the Pentagon redact fiction? Maybe it's because it wasn't. The best-kept secrets don't need to be classified. They're just too insane to be taken seriously. They're self-stigmatizing. So when the truth is just too strange, you disguise it as fiction. In this episode, we want to get into exactly how the black UFO program actually works. I'm talking about disclosure at a whole new level: hidden in plain sight. Aerospace programs recruiting psychics from third-world countries.

• 9:59Jesse Michels?

  In fact, they are often drugged, microchipped, and used like human joysticks to fly these UFOs. I'm also talking about underground bases hidden all over the world. And I'm talking about holograms and nanotechnology used to create entryways into these mountain bases that only open up for certain people with certain biosignatures. And finally, I'm talking about protocols that can help anyone, you included, attract and see UFOs. And maybe call one to your bedroom window. Protocols that the government has been exploiting in hidden programs for decades. So what's the real secret that the Pentagon doesn't want you to know? The ability for any person to connect to this phenomenon

• 10:43Jesse Michels?

  or attract it like a human antenna is real. The big secret isn't a mothership. It's you. Your own human nature that's far more magical than the happy accident of random atomic interactions we're told about in school. If anything, that worldview of materialist reductionism, that's the psyop.

• 11:06Jesse Michels?

  So keep your eyes peeled, because tonight, we're going inside the book the Pentagon doesn't want you to read. We'll decode what's real, what's fiction, and what's hiding five miles east of Cojame, Mexico.

• 11:26Jesse Michels?

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• 12:50Jesse Michels?

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• 13:02Jesse Michels?

  Before we hit play on Sentinels of Ether, we need to roll the tape back on Jake Barber.

• 13:09Speaker 04

  We were running operations, let's say, more attuned for the UAP.

• 13:13Jesse Michels?

  Because before there was ever a manuscript, there was an operation. Jake worked for a private company embedded inside legacy aerospace. Need-to-know operations, no questions asked. But Jake's routine missions for his employer gradually evolved into something more ominous. He was sent on what looked like a High-stakes scavenger hunt tracked down some missing Panasonic ToughBooks, ruggedized laptops meant to endure extreme environments.

• 13:41Speaker 04

  And it's believed on these ToughBooks was highly sensitive information that was evidence to CR programs.

• 13:48Jesse Michels?

  Sensor data and video footage that might be classified and incriminating. Proof of UFO crash retrieval operations.

• 13:56Speaker 04

  We received human intelligence that gave us the intel package we needed to pursue where we thought the first set of ToughBooks might be. A recovery team was sent and we found the ToughBooks. I'm not going to say where, and we returned them to our employer. The ToughBooks were missing the hard drives. We then set out to recover the hard drives. Our human asset led us to another location high in the Sierras, which was a glacier lake, and the hard drives were sealed in a steel container like 25 feet underwater.

• 14:33Jesse Michels?

  Don Paul Bales, a 25-year military and law enforcement veteran, later confirmed that he worked under Jake on this same operation. Technically, I did not work for them. I worked for Jacob. And by the next mission, something felt off. He was given a new intel contact, new coordinates, a new chain of command. The whole operation had a different fingerprint. When his team finally reached the target location, an ambush was waiting.

• 15:02Speaker 04

  The next mission we went out on, I'll just tell you that shots were fired and we called bullshit. And that's when we began to backtrack and set out with our our own effort to find out exactly who we were working for and what they were interested in.

• 15:21Jesse Michels?

  From an insider leak, we now know that the programs documented on these ToughBooks used temporary flight restrictions to clear the skies, lure UFOs in, and bring them down with EMP weaponry. For the uninitiated, EMP means electromagnetic pulse. It's basically the electromagnetic ...you would experience with a nuke without the nuclear blast. But it gets even darker. Apparently, civilian aircraft had also been taken down after entering this restricted airspace, with the bodies and wreckage disposed of. If even a fraction of that was sitting on those tough books, they were a massive liability.

• 16:03Jesse Michels?

  Not only did Jake's employer want to destroy the tough books with evidence of crash retrievals, they also wanted to destroy him.

• 16:11Speaker 04

  The plausible deniability button that people at the top can hit in order to protect themselves would sever us as the hidden hand.

• 16:23Jesse Michels?

  So Jake does what any good operative does when the mission burns: he burns it back. He and his teammate turned their special ops spy craft back against their own employer, and indirectly, the UFO Legacy Program itself. Jake's weapon of choice isn't a gun, it's a manuscript. And DoPsR, the Defense Department pre-publication review, is the system designed to silence him. For most people, it's a muzzle, but Jake turns it into a Trojan horse. He teams up with a ghostwriter and begins crafting the manuscript, then slices it into 20-page chunks and feeds them to DoPsR. The first round took six months and came back with seven pages of redactions.

• 17:07Jesse Michels?

  Instead of killing his story, the redactions only served to confirm it. You see, Jake used the redaction process backwards as a discovery tool. Normally, you know it's classified and you avoid it. But Jake submitted material he suspected was classified, then watched what the Pentagon blacked out. By drip-feeding chapters, he could see which lines made the Pentagon flinch: "Just," "Probe," and slip real facts about the UFO Legacy Program into the public domain under the camouflage of fiction. The manuscript becomes a Trojan horse. The Pentagon's own bureaucracy becomes the delivery mechanism. And buried in the pages is a trail of breadcrumbs hidden in plain sight.

• 17:52Jesse Michels?

  For most readers, it's just a thriller. But for those who know what to look for, it's a cipher, waiting for the right eyes to crack it open, and the clock starts ticking.

• 18:07Jesse Michels?

  Out in the Badlands, just north of Coyame, Mexico, Earth looks a lot like Mars. Mesas ripped sideways from tectonic violence. Rust and bone-white rock layers streak down canyon walls. Boulders sit in bizarrely impossible stacks, like a Martian sculptor played Jenga with geology.

• 18:28Jesse Michels?

  There's no light pollution here. No highway glow. No city haze. When the sun drops, it's just you, the desert floor, and the whole galaxy staring back at you. Which means if you don't want to be seen, this is the perfect place to disappear.

• 18:48Jesse Michels?

  Welcome to enigmatic Coyame, population 1,230. On paper, it's a sleepy border town.

• 18:58Jesse Michels?

  But ask around, and it's Mexico's Roswell. And that's not hyperbole. It's literally the title of a book by researchers Noe Torres and Ruben Uriarte, who both documented decades of strange activity in the area. Locals constantly talk about colored lights that wink in and out around the mountain peaks.

• 19:23Jesse Michels?

  Little orbs and square objects that seem to come out of the landscape itself. And then there's the big one.

• 19:32Jesse Michels?

  In 1974, Coyame became the setting for one of the strangest crash stories on record.

• 19:57Jesse Michels?

  A mid-air collision between a small Mexican plane and a UFO.

• 20:04Jesse Michels?

  A Mexican recovery team raced to the site, but never came back.

• 20:11Jesse Michels?

  According to the leaked report that surfaced in the 90s, the whole Mexican team ends up dead, and the mystery object is airlifted out by US forces.

• 20:24Jesse Michels?

  If you're imaginative, you might wonder if Kuyame wasn't just a crash site.

• 20:30Jesse Michels?

  But has long been a sandbox for clandestine ops. Perfectly isolated, with weird geology very good at hiding doorways to things that aren't supposed to exist.

• 20:44Jesse Michels?

  The locals, they don't talk about the lights anymore. And if you ask too many questions, you might find out why.

• 20:52Speaker 00

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' health care to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

• 21:38Jesse Michels?

  Alex McEwen, Tier One Operator. 11 years in America's most elite units.

• 21:47Jesse Michels?

  Tonight, he's alone. Escorting two dozen refugees through jagged desert terrain. Women and children who will die if he doesn't get them to extraction.

• 22:12Jesse Michels?

  Scout, this is H1. We are here for extract. LZ is 100 meters to the south. Do you copy? They're early, and his team is still behind him somewhere. Extraction without the unit wasn't the plan.

• 22:28Speaker 05

  H1, I copy. What is your 20?

• 22:30Jesse Michels?

  Alex hits them with a code that's known as a verbal IFF. A code only people on this classified op should know.

• 22:41Speaker 05

  Matchbox.

• 22:42Jesse Michels?

  He gets the right answer, so he waves the refugees forward.

• 22:48Jesse Michels?

  But here's what Alex doesn't know. These refugees weren't just lucky enough to have a tier-one escort.

• 22:55Jesse Michels?

  Someone very powerful wanted them here.

• 23:03Jesse Michels?

  Barbara claims that some of these black aerospace programs had a very specific need. People untouched by modern civilization, often from third-world countries. Psychically uncorrupted. And displaced people, refugees, victims of natural disaster, they're perfect.

• 23:23Jesse Michels?

  No passport, no paper trail, no one who'd know if they went missing. Fed into a UFO legacy operation that most people will never hear about. All the program would need is a reason for them to disappear that no one would question.

• 23:40Jesse Michels?

  A natural disaster works just fine. So does border crossing. So does geopolitical conflict.

• 23:52Jesse Michels?

  That's when Alex sees it. A second helicopter, even bigger, carrying a steel Konex shipping container with a mini-split HVAC unit bolted to its roof, slung beneath the chopper like a coffin on a hook.

• 24:09Jesse Michels?

  According to Barbara, this is how they moved them. These refugees aren't being rescued, they are the cargo.

• 24:23Jesse Michels?

  Three figures materialize from the dust.

• 24:28Jesse Michels?

  They move fast, efficient, predatory. Alex knows immediately, these aren't friendlies coming to help.

• 24:37Jesse Michels?

  Their gear is a Frankenstein mashup of high-end helmets, comms, and lightweight armor. One guy's pants are tucked into his Converse All-Stars. Does this sound at all like military to you?

• 24:51Jesse Michels?

  Two men beeline for him, as the third heads up a hill and shoulders a rifle aimed at Alex's skull. And then something happens that chills Alex's blood. They call him by name.

• 25:05Jesse Michels?

  His stomach drops. That's when things go sideways.

• 25:11Jesse Michels?

  They rip the rifle from him and break it down like a pit crew before tossing it.

• 25:22Jesse Michels?

  Don't even fucking blink, bro.

• 25:25Jesse Michels?

  He's outgunned three to one with a rifle pointed directly at his head from elevation.

• 25:34Jesse Michels?

  They blindfold Alex and zip tie his wrists. One of them pulls out a strange handheld device. Something like a bioscanner. He sweeps Alex with it from head to toe.

• 25:49Jesse Michels?

  A wand, hunting for trackers and biometric chips? These guys are professionally trained, not random desert smugglers.

• 25:59Jesse Michels?

  He doesn't have it.

• 26:02Jesse Michels?

  Man one steps close. Man three holds the high ground, rifle steady. Man one raises his hand, gives a silent signal. And somewhere above, a trigger is pulled.

• 26:17Jesse Michels?

  A 7.62 round tears through Alex's right shoulder. Clavicle pulverized, shattering bone and flesh. A second signal and a second shot. His throat explodes, drowning in his own blood.

• 26:34Jesse Michels?

  A third signal, third shot. His face is obliterated. His body drops back, cold, lifeless, face to the stars. Or what's left of his face, that is.

• 26:47Jesse Michels?

  The entire universe of Alex McEwen blinked out like a dying star, sudden and violent. Children bury their faces. Some of the women don't look away. It's almost as if they've seen worse. Alex McEwen, tier one operator, patriot, now just a corpse in the Chihuahuan desert.

• 27:10Jesse Michels?

  He believed he died serving his country, but the men who killed him were clearly serving something else.

• 27:25Jesse Michels?

  Cut to Pope Air Force Base, North Carolina, where inside Joint Special Operations Command, or JSOC, their operations center.

• 27:35Jesse Michels?

  Everyone's frozen. The Secretary of Defense himself is on the other end of the call. And he is not happy.

• 27:43Speaker 06

  Dale, what in the fuck just happened out there?

• 27:47Jesse Michels?

  General Dale Steinmaker, commander of Joint Special Operations Command, is wondering the exact same thing.

• 27:53Speaker 07

  Uh, Mr. Secretary, do you have agency guys in Coyame, Mexico?

• 28:00Speaker 06

  Why the fuck would I? Everyone's at war. Nobody should be in goddamn Mexico.

• 28:07Jesse Michels?

  But the drone feed tells a different story. Someone just took out an entire special mission unit on JSOC's watch. The Predator drone had caught the whole ugly scene. Alex's execution, the refugees being loaded into the shipping container, and now the helicopters lifting off into the desert, human cargo in tow.

• 28:28Speaker 06

  Are you suggesting this is blue on blue?

• 28:32Speaker 07

  Black on black, sir.

• 28:34Speaker 00

  Excuse me, gentlemen.

• 28:39Jesse Michels?

  The difference here matters. Blue on blue is friendly fire. Tragic, but explainable. Black on black is a nightmare. Covert operators killing covert operators. Shadow versus shadow. Whoever did this wasn't supposed to be there. The thermal signatures of six bodies cool in the sand.

• 28:59Jesse Michels?

  The combat controller called for air support, but bled out mid-sentence.

• 29:09Speaker 07

  All right, Vector F-18s out of White Sands. I want every eye in the sky on those helicopters. Wherever they're going, we're going there first.

• 29:19Jesse Michels?

  Within minutes, satellites pivot over Coeyambe.

• 29:25Jesse Michels?

  Half a dozen airborne assets spin up and vector south. Restricted Area 5107. The largest military installation in America. 3,200 square miles of nothing but sand and secrets. This is where they detonated Trinity, the first atomic bomb. July 16, 1945.

• 29:48Jesse Michels?

  Since then, it's been a war games wasteland.

• 29:54Jesse Michels?

  Eagle I and Eagle II. Top Gun graduates yanked off a training mission and thrown straight into the real thing.

• 30:01Speaker 07

  Eagle Flight, what is your loadout?

• 30:05Speaker 05

  Sorry, gang, we're fast but not fatal. Negative for ordinance, how about a show of force instead?

• 30:10Jesse Michels?

  Translation: Scare the hell out of them and force them to land. Just don't kill them. They want answers, not corpses.

• 30:24Jesse Michels?

  Five miles out, the helicopters dropped into a descent. They sink below the canyon walls and vanish.

• 30:33Jesse Michels?

  Back in the war room, the radar blip blinks out. They lost radar contact. Radar is line-of-sight technology. Terrain blocks it. Fly low enough, hug the earth tight enough, and you disappear. In skilled aviation circles, this is called nap of the earth flying. And these pilots know exactly what they're doing.

• 30:55Jesse Michels?

  Eagle I drops to 8,000 feet.

• 30:59Jesse Michels?

  Night vision goggles on, scanning.

• 31:07Speaker 05

  Bingo. Tally two.

• 31:12Jesse Michels?

  Two helicopters, and beneath the bigger one, still spinning on its cable, the container full of human cargo.

• 31:20Jesse Michels?

  Eagle One calls them out over Guard Frequency 243 megahertz, the international emergency frequency, and orders them to land.

• 31:29Speaker 05

  Compter Flight of Two with the external load east of Coeyamay, Mexico. This is the United Navy F-18. You are instructed to land immediately.

• 31:36Jesse Michels?

  But the helicopters hold course, refusing to ID yourself and ignoring a Navy intercept. Ballsy. If this part is true, we know more about where to knock and who to use the Freedom of Information Act on: NORAD under US NORTHCOM, JSOC through US Special Operations Command, plus the Navy.

• 31:59Jesse Michels?

  And we know what to ask for: incident reports and air defense logs on unknown aircraft in the Coeyamay Corridor in 2004 that ignored Guard Frequency 243 megahertz and blew off a Navy intercept.

• 32:15Jesse Michels?

  Something I've noticed doing this show for years is that the biggest ideas usually hinge on one strange, specific detail: Gary McKinnon describing a spreadsheet of non-terrestrial officers; Hal Puthoff explaining why CIA remote viewers tested their abilities in deep waters on submarines; Diana Pasulka realizing that the Vatican Observatory knew more about UFOs than met the eye. These are key details that completely change how you understand someone's story, and if you're not capturing those details, they're gone. I've been getting into Plaid Note Pro lately exactly for this reason, because the same thing happens to me outside the studio, too. I'll be walking around, thinking through something a recent guest said on a podcast,

• 33:00Jesse Michels?

  and suddenly, a connection clicks between that and something another guest said two years earlier. This is one of the clearest examples I've found personally of the real utility behind AI. This product is ridiculously easy to use: one press to start recording, and then I press it again to highlight a moment I want to come back to. It will take comprehensive notes for you about everything that transpires. You can also add text notes or images, so it's not just raw audio floating around Then when I get back home, Ploud turns everything I've said into an organized summary, and I can actually ask questions about what I recorded. I can ask things like, what was that connection I made between Thomas Townsend Brown and time travel?

• 33:43Jesse Michels?

  Or what was that thing I said around the 10-minute mark about Bob Lazar? And Ploud will pull the answer directly from the recording. That's the difference. You're not just saving audio. This isn't your average AI note taker. You're building a searchable archive of your own thoughts. As you can see, the Note Pro is credit card thin, has up to 50 hours of battery, and it handles both in-person conversations and phone calls without switching modes. So head to plaud.ai/alchemy to learn more. That's P-L-A-U-D dot A-I slash alchemy, and use code ALKAMI10 at checkout. Thanks so much to Ploud for sponsoring today's episode. But back to the story.

• 34:26Jesse Michels?

  After the intercept doesn't work, Eagle One decides to get their attention the old-fashioned way. But as he lines up the pass, something's wrong. The gorge dead-ends into a mountain so massive it eats the stars. 1,500 feet of vertical rock. No way around, no way over, no escape. So what is this? A suicide run? Then everything goes wrong at once. In the war room, the drone feed dies.

• 35:10Jesse Michels?

  At the same time, Eagle One's cockpit goes black. Flight controls, dead. Engines, dead. 200 feet from the ground, at near supersonic speed, the jet becomes a dead weight. He has milliseconds to choose: ride the coffin into the mountain, or punch out at speeds that can rip human bodies apart. The math is ugly, and in homage to the first man to ever eject from a cockpit at supersonic speeds, he double grips the handle and pulls.

• 35:52Jesse Michels?

  8,000 feet above, Eagle Two can't breathe. His oxygen system is dead, so are his generators. He rips off his mask, fighting through his own electrical failure. Systems flicker back online, he looks down. The jet's gone, but the helicopters are still flying straight at the face of Mount Mexico.

• 36:28Jesse Michels?

  The mountainside starts to pixelate. It dissolves from 3D to 2D to nothing, as the helicopters slip through and vanish from one world into another, entering a massive chamber made of stone and steel beams. Outside, the electromagnetic force field re-energizes to the illusion of solid rock. To the outside world, it looks like they vanished. But inside, they've just arrived: home. Call it a black site, a breakaway base, or something worse. We don't have a name for it yet. What we do have is a body count that shouldn't exist, and a story that leaves more questions than answers. An elite American operator executed in the desert by unknown forces using US authentication codes.

• 37:13Jesse Michels?

  A JSOC mission burned from the inside out. A weapon system that can surgically blast drones and F-18s with an electromagnetic pulse. Missing refugees, human beings, loaded into a shipping container, ferried by unmarked helicopters across the desert, and chased by US fighter jets to a holographic mountain in Mexico that isn't a mountain, but a door.

• 37:41Jesse Michels?

  And behind it, a secret underground facility.

• 37:53Jesse Michels?

  The fact that the general is asking the Secretary of Defense if another agency is running an unsanctioned op in Mexico tells us their worst fear. The enemy isn't foreign. It's domestic, but it's not under normal chains of command. And if that's true, then this isn't just a botched mission in the Coyame Desert. It's the tip of something much bigger.

• 38:19Jesse Michels?

  So who's really running this show? And how deep does this parallel world actually go?

• 38:27Jesse Michels?

  My little hero. June 12th, 2023. The National Press Club event in Washington DC.

• 38:36Jesse Michels?

  After years embedded in covert crash retrieval operations, Jake attends a National Press Club conference hosted by Stephen Greer.

• 38:43Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 38:44Jesse Michels?

  Stephen Greer is notorious for getting in touch with people on the inside of the UFO Legacy Program and helping draw publicity to their stories. Usually, he's going for the most disgruntled defectors. Jake shows up at the event and is there to red-team the whistleblowers.

• 39:03Speaker 04

  We were actually sent there on behalf of our employer to look for whistleblowers that we were trying to

• 39:13Speaker 04

  basically report to the FBI and get arrested. Because at that time, I was in this weird place between becoming a whistleblower or rounding up the whistleblowers and shutting them up.

• 39:29Jesse Michels?

  Essentially figure out what they know, do a threat assessment, and report back to headquarters. Somewhere out there are a few missing Panasonic ToughBooks, loaded with highly sensitive material. And Jake thinks one of these guys might be about to spill what's on them. Then, Michael Herrera takes the stage. Herrera was a Marine with the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit. He described a 2009 mission in Indonesia, a civilian evacuation following a catastrophic earthquake and tsunami. Sounds kind of familiar, right?

• 40:03Speaker 02

  In 2009, we were, my unit, which was a most decorated infantry battalion in the entire Marine Corps, which was 2nd Battalion, 5th Marines, was called in to do humanitarian assistance operations out in the Philippines, which was Operation Katsana.

• 40:19Jesse Michels?

  His unit was flown deep into the jungle with no comms, no signal, and no civilians. His six-man team pushes to high ground, to a hill thick with vegetation. And that's when they see it: a craft.

• 40:36Speaker 02

  And right there was something that stuck out like a sore thumb, especially with jungle terrain, things like that, vegetation, very green stuff. Was something that stuck out so well, it's always gonna be basically imprisoned in my mind for the rest of my life, and it has been for 14 years, was something that was rotating. And it was transitioning between colors, like a light matte gray, as well as a dark matte black. So in between, that's what it kept, and it was very smooth. You can see that the craft here actually had roughly about 300 feet. And the reason why I know this is because you could fit three of the helicopters that we flew in on underneath this craft.

• 41:21Jesse Michels?

  300 feet across. Octagonal, matte, or what he describes as vanta black. It's so black that it almost looks like dark matter, like light itself isn't interacting with this craft. It hovers just above the canopy with a subsonic hum.

• 41:43Jesse Michels?

  Before they can process what they're looking at, they're intercepted. An eight-man paramilitary unit, no insignias, no IDs, moving in fast, rehearsed and ready to kill.

• 42:01Jesse Michels?

  They disarm the Marines, scan them with a bioscanner, and hold them at gunpoint. The message is clear: "You were not supposed to see this, and if you talk, we will kill you." I know what you're thinking: "The Indonesian jungle sounds a lot like the Mexican desert." While this is all happening, Herrera sees some trucks roll up with shipping containers and HVACs mounted on top.

• 42:27Jesse Michels?

  He assumed they were moving drugs. But hearing Michael Herrera's testimony, Jake knew better. He had the missing piece of Michael's puzzle.

• 42:35Speaker 04

  I have no firsthand experience with that operation, nor direct contact with anyone involved with it. I know of that type of operation. I know of that craft. I know of those containers.

• 42:51Jesse Michels?

  He'd seen those containers before.

• 42:54Speaker 04

  Those units that they used are consistent with the workstations we use when we're out on the range. There are many split HVAC systems that are used up there.

• 43:02Jesse Michels?

  And they weren't hauling drugs. They were hauling people, kids.

• 43:06Speaker 04

  There are operations Oconus outside the continental United States where prospecting for psionic assets takes place, and they're highly coveted. And the interesting thing is, is I hear in those programs that there's something valuable about the life experience in third world countries. In that, it seems as though people that live a simpler life and are outdoors more and have less contaminants in their food and their drugs and in their culture seem to be a little bit better at disassociating and heightening their intuition.

• 43:40Jesse Michels?

  Remember the refugees from Jake's manuscript? Those were psionic assets being funneled into programs that don't exist on any budget. People being forced into heightened states of consciousness in order to summon UFOs.

• 43:56Speaker 05

  How in the hell do you get like the humans? And they say, oh, no, it is natural disasters. They said, actually, sadly, the unaccompanied minor crisis and the caravans that just had like kind of unaccountable swaths of humans in Central America running up through the Darien Gap and across the US-Mexico border. And then they said the Ukraine war.

• 44:23Jesse Michels?

  Jake knew Michael Herrera was legit.

• 44:26Speaker 04

  I saw a good Marine up there when I saw Mike. I saw a brother in arms doing his best to be put now with a microphone in his face in a fucking suit and tie in Washington DC when he's cut out to be carrying a saw through the jungle. And now he's doing his best and he's an honest, good guy and I wasn't gonna let him hang.

• 44:48Jesse Michels?

  So instead of continuing to red team Michael and run counter intel on him, he decided to join forces.

• 44:56Jesse Michels?

  We know that the CIA's Office of Global Access is rumored to coordinate closely with JSOC and NEST, or Nuclear Emergency Support Teams, for UFO crash retrievals. We also know that the Department of Energy has Protective Forces, elite units with legal authority under the Atomic Energy Act to move and guard highly sensitive material outside the normal DOD chain of command. They're described as elite fighting forces that operate in all combat environments. The Protective Forces here are recruited by private companies, but trained and commanded by Defense Nuclear Security, a program under the Department of Energy's National Nuclear Security Administration.

• 45:38Jesse Michels?

  Were these the guys who threatened Herrera in the jungle? We don't know, but it sounds like from the lack of insignias and mismatched uniforms, it's likely some Black World paramilitary belonging to a private defense contractor and one that's designed to be completely untraceable and confuse anybody it runs into.

• 46:01Jesse Michels?

  So if you're running an unacknowledged Black World hit squad, where do you park it? You need more than a base. You need a mirage.

• 46:11Speaker 06

  And these are the last words he told me. He said, "Jim..."

• 46:16Speaker 06

  We have things out in the desert that's 50 years beyond what you can comprehend. And he knows I can comprehend a hell of a lot.

• 46:24Jesse Michels?

  So what's going on here? Let's start with the obvious theory. It's just a hologram. We know that the military's been flirting with holographic warfare for decades. In 1999, reporter William Arkin wrote an article about a 1994 Air Force concept for a holographic projector. Massive 3D illusions in the sky intended for psy-ops. As a side note, people should deeply investigate this tech tree, especially as it concerns normal UFO sightings. The problem here is a partial mountain-sized 3D hologram visible from multiple angles is an insane power bill. You're talking brutal energy requirements just to fake a rock. And yet, the lore runs deep.

• 47:07Jesse Michels?

  Billionaire UFO enthusiast Robert Bigelow says that Bob Lazar described a holographic book at S4 Area 51 that's like an alien Kindle.

• 47:20Speaker 03

  Bob's story is so much more in-depth, so much more detailed, like that book. Tell people about the book? It was some kind of a holographic book that as you opened up the pages, whatever the stories were, became a hologram.

• 47:34Jesse Michels?

  Stephen Greer talks about a whistleblower who allegedly saw Raytheon projecting UFO-like craft as a part of a false invasion scenario.

• 47:43Speaker 03

  Here is the Raytheon Triangle at Fort Irwin.

• 47:50Speaker 03

  That is man-made. And the guy who saw it in detail, because he picked up some night skits he was told not to, saw that there was this one, and then they were holographically projecting several others. This could be used in a false alien invasion, you know, like a hoaxed invasion. And then that later, he and his wife got abducted by this thing. Yeah. And tortured. Whoa.

• 48:14Jesse Michels?

  And it was Raytheon. Then you have whistleblowers like Randy Anderson, who says he was taken underground at Crane Naval Surface Warfare Center in Indiana and shown a metallic gauntlet with a crystalline screen. And above it, symbols that looked almost holographic.

• 48:31Speaker 07

  I'm looking at it and it almost looked like a Mirage type of effect. And above that display screen were these hieroglyphic symbols that I started to see appear.

• 48:42Jesse Michels?

  The projection appeared integrated into reality itself, far more advanced than normal holograms. So advanced hologram tech, maybe. But Koyame does get hammered by thunderstorms during monsoon season. And a giant mountainside light show feels like the last thing you'd ever want riding on perfect weather. One glitch and your billion-dollar cover is blown. So that's a lot of faith to put into a hologram. So what if it's something that seems like a hologram but isn't?

• 49:11Speaker 00

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• 49:41Jesse Michels?

  Back in the day, I used to chug coffee like I was prepping for a quantum jump. But then I'd crash like my nervous system got slingshotted through a kaleidoscope. Anxiety spiking, aura flickering, and REM sleep? Never met her. It was like drinking battery acid on an empty stomach. Then I found Mudwater. It doesn't fry my circuits or my synapses. I use Mudwater's original blend over ice. It still has a little bit of caffeine, but it's stacked with adaptogens and nootropics like L-theanine, chaga, lion's mane, cacao, the whole Earth squad to keep you naturally energized and to ensure that you don't wake up with the morning scaries. One sip of Mudwater and my cells report for duty.

• 50:26Jesse Michels?

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• 51:11Jesse Michels?

  Please show your support and let them know we sent you. So what if it's something that seems like a hologram, but isn't? What I'm talking about is a little technology known as foglets, or utility fog. Now, we have to add an asterisk here. This technology is theoretical, so let's treat this as a thought experiment. Imagine robots the size of glitter, roughly 100 microns, that don't just build things, they become things. Billions of tiny robots lock arms in 12 directions to form objects on command.

• 51:50Jesse Michels?

  Then dissolve and reshape into something completely different. Remember the liquid metal Terminator from Terminator 2? That shape-shifting assassin that could morph on command? Nanotechnology foglets could make that real. And that's not just sci-fi fanfiction. In 1989, scientist Dr. J. Storrs-Hall pitched the concept of utility fog, an active polymorphic material made up of trillions of foglets that link together to form solid, programmable matter.

• 52:23Jesse Michels?

  In 1993, he doubled down on it with a paper that was published at a NASA conference. Here's how it works. Each foglet is armed with its own extremely rudimentary nano-computer and can talk to its neighbors. They can share power, data, and rearrange themselves into almost anything. A mountain should be pretty easy. Hall claims you could actually push this technology to the point of creating a virtual world around you. You'd essentially get Star Trek's holodeck, one that could actually cut you and make you bleed. That's a direct quote from him.

• 52:57Speaker 05

  All of the stuff you want out of a material, an intelligent morphing material, can be done simply by expanding or contracting the material and controlling that at a scale that ranges from seconds to milliseconds.

• 53:19Jesse Michels?

  Unlike holograms, foglets have a physical presence. They could be your magic carpet, push you on a swing, shield you, slap you, or even become your best friend if you really want to get weird. You could punch a foglet mountain and break your hand, but program it to recognize you and open sesame. They're essentially programmable matter, solid or permeable on demand. They could fake the gritty feel of sandstone and layered rock by dialing in just the right microvibrations for your skin to read as solid stone. But there's a catch. In Hall's original design, his foglets looked more like snow, not ideal for mimicking a desert mountain. But in interviews and other technical write-ups,

• 54:01Jesse Michels?

  he says his design could be enhanced with light-emitting antennae to match color and optical properties in real time. Add that upgrade, run the foglets in pixel mode, and the outer skin basically becomes a 3D TV screen, blending into whatever you want it to. Now look at how the story describes the mountain's behavior. That's our next big tell that we might not be dealing with a simple hologram. As the helicopters are about to collide with the mountainside, its 3D appearance transitions to 2D. ...pixelates into nothing. If upgraded foglets exist, and that is a big if, we are admittedly engaging in extreme speculation here, so you should accept that caveat.

• 54:44Jesse Michels?

  But if they exist, this is the behavior you might expect to see. As the helicopters close in, foglets would start shifting formation, half their arms staying locked in lattice formation, while the rest drop out of rock mode as the mountainside dissolves into flickering patches like pixels on a screen. From the cockpit, it would look like a 3D mountainside, flattening into a weird shimmering 2D skin that breaks into pixels and dissolves as the helicopter passes through. The low-frequency pulsing in the crew's headsets is another clue. It's not ambient sound. So one possibility is strong radio frequency emissions bleeding into their radio gear, a glitch that's known as audio rectification.

• 55:27Jesse Michels?

  If foglets were adapted for the real world, they'd likely be upgraded with wireless, real-time communication for swarm coordination. So imagine trillions of foglets moving in coordinated waves, unlocking, shifting antenna arms, and cycling their electrical states. That kind of swarm could generate the strong radio emissions and an audible pulsing you'd hear in your headset. A hologram wouldn't do any of this. Remember, in the novel, the drone and the F-18s suddenly lose power while the helicopters slip right through the mountain untouched. In theory, if the mountain is really a trillion little foglets, each speck with its own brain, sensors, and comms,

• 56:12Jesse Michels?

  they could act like a living electromagnetic warfare system. With each cubic inch packing 16 million processors, they could jam specific signals, bleed power from drones while leaving others untouched, and run friend or foe codes so only approved aircraft get a clean pass. Returning helicopters could transmit the right codes to slip through, giving everyone else power failure and a not-so-gentle escort into the dirt. Now this mountain in Sentinels of Ether could also be pure fiction. But crafts vanishing into mountains is a documented phenomenon, especially in places like the Uinta Basin.

• 56:54Jesse Michels?

  If something lets objects slip through what looks like solid rock, we're probably beyond conventional technology and already playing in the black world sandbox. Foglets are just my best guess, but they aren't some wild stoner fantasy either. The DIA has openly mused about programmable matter for camouflage and invisibility.

• 57:17Jesse Michels?

  In the 1990s to 2000s, the idea of smart dust caught fire among sci-fi nerds everywhere, including some feds at DARPA who began funding research on millimeter-scale autonomous sensing and communication nodes. While utility fog is still theoretical, the building blocks were active research areas back then. By 2001, DARPA was demonstrating smart dust in field tests. By 2004, MEMS, or micro electromechanical systems, technology, had matured significantly. Publicly, we know about DARPA's smart dust in creepy biohybrid insect cyborgs, but in the black world, we have no idea what exists. Hall himself, again the creator of this concept,

• 58:02Jesse Michels?

  has warned that a lot of the work needed for real nanotech got actively suppressed, which is why we're a bit behind on Star Trek replicators and nano-assemblers. And let's not forget about the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951. This lets Uncle Sam classify and bury both government and private inventions, including patent applications in the name of national security. If something like utility fog exists in a classified program, filing a patent would amount to disclosure. So there's a reason no patents exist. The whole point of special access programs is to keep these capabilities hidden. You wouldn't telegraph that you've solved molecular nanotechnology. If you want to keep something a secret, you don't file.

• 58:44Jesse Michels?

  And then you have Ben Rich, former head of Lockheed Skunk Works, saying things like, "We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity." Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do. Rich even claimed, "We have things out in the desert that are 50 years beyond what you could possibly comprehend." If you've seen it on Star Wars or Star Trek, we've been there and done that. He also admitted that there are people in the intelligence world who want this breakthrough technology to stay in the black forever. And he's saying this in 1995, the same era Hall is pitching utility fog to NASA.

• 59:28Jesse Michels?

  So if Rich is right, then by the early 2000s, the public was still gawking at smart dust while some special access program buried in the desert might have been playing with full-blown programmable matter, the kind of tech that could absolutely fake a mountain. Just look at what Ross Colthart and his sources have said about Bradshaw Ranch in Arizona.

• 59:48Speaker 03

  There is a portal in the United States. In fact, I suspect there are multiple. But this particular portal is in a highly guarded facility that is used under the U.S. Forest Service cover. There are men with guns who patrol it, and there are witnesses who have seen people walking into, literally, a wall.

• 1:00:08Jesse Michels?

  So we have craft moving in and out of a mountain. We even have people walking through walls. Now let's talk psionics, the psychic summoning of UFOs, Jake Barber's secret sauce.

• 1:00:20Speaker 03

  We're told, and there's a whole movie made about it, debunking the idea of telepathy and psychics and psionics. And yet, you've only got to read the CIA gateway documents and the CIA files, and they show that that's actually not true. That essentially, everybody took it very, very seriously.

• 1:00:39Jesse Michels?

  Jake Barber told Herrera that the paramilitary unit he encountered was transporting psionic assets, people with special intuitive abilities.

• 1:00:48Speaker 04

  What is real is the ability to go into something like a meditative state and summon UAP and pilot UAP. That is real. That's 100% real.

• 1:01:01Jesse Michels?

  Wow. I have to process that for a moment because that is just the most extraordinary claim. He calls them P3s, or psionic predisposition potential. These aren't your average recruits. He personally sees it less like human trafficking and more like elite recruitment into specialized programs. Although admittedly, reading a lot of these stories makes me pretty concerned about human rights violations. So when these P3s or psionic assets are recruited, what do they actually do? Jake describes them as intuitives, trained like assets in remote viewing, telekinesis, and the whole psychic toolkit. All of this is honed through specific protocols. Their job is to tap into what he calls the consciousness field.

• 1:01:47Jesse Michels?

  Think of it like a cosmic world wide web, full of information everywhere, all the time. Invisible until you access it. A P3 is the receiver, the wifi antenna. According to Jake, there are two main attraction methods. Machine-based systems, signals or energy systems that act like a beacon or dog whistle. After we turn on the dog whistle, UAPs literally come to us day after day. Or manned-based systems, trained psionics projecting an invitation through the field. Essentially calling to whatever's monitoring it. To train a psionic asset, you have to shut down the overthinking brain and let intuition run point. Children are naturally better at this since they're usually more intuitive.

• 1:02:33Jesse Michels?

  Basically, the plot of Stranger Things. Psychic kids being tested at Department of Energy National Labs. Jake's consciousness-based attraction method is very similar to Stephen Greer's coherent thought sequencing. The core technique in his CE5 protocol. It's a meditation-based invitation system built on a similar premise. Consciousness as a communication channel. Now I know Greer can be polarizing. At times, he can be self-aggrandizing and just plain wrong about a whole lot. But he's stayed remarkably consistent on this one thing for decades. And his contributions to UFO disclosure are in His system is all about non-local consciousness and laser-focused thought with love and peace as the carrier signal.

• 1:03:18Jesse Michels?

  You basically run a cosmic Google Maps in your mind's eye, zooming in with mental imagery until you've dropped a pin on your exact spot. According to Greer, the craft picks up on a directed coherent thought signal as clearly as a radio would pick up on an electromagnetic signal. Remember the words of Lockheed's Ben Rich, who said exotic propulsion systems work the same way ESP works. All points in time and space are connected: mind, body, and craft, integrated as one. Here's the basics of how it works. Coherent thought sequencing is like sending out your address by visually guiding the craft to your location through your mind's eye.

• 1:04:00Jesse Michels?

  You're essentially remote-viewing space and then zooming in on your physical location. It actually even helps to use Google Earth beforehand to accurately visualize aerial shots of your location, so your mental zoom-in is razor-sharp. Here are the basics: sit down, close your eyes, breathe. Now zoom out and expand into space. The stars shimmer as you scan the star field, remote-viewing the cosmos. In a galaxy not so far away is our very own spiraling Milky Way. Push in on a twinkling dot on its arm. Flash forward to our solar system. Eight planets orbit the Sun. Earth lights up.

• 1:04:44Jesse Michels?

  Dive towards our planet Earth. Continents come into view: North America, the United States. Your state lights up. Pin-drop your city. Zoom in over your town. Drop into a God's-eye view of your neighborhood: street, the roof you're under, and finally, your exact spot: down to the chair you're sitting in. You are the pin-drop on their map, broadcasting into the cosmos like a laser pointer.

• 1:05:14Jesse Michels?

  In this model, UFOs are directly coupled to their observer's consciousness. You're linking to both the ship's mind and its navigation system, and feeding it a visual vector it can lock onto. optionally, if you have a legal, safe line of sight and no aircraft in your sky, you can tag your location with a low-power laser into the star field overhead. Never shine a laser at aircraft or anywhere near their flight path. That's a federal crime. So if you use this technique, use it responsibly. I would also add that your internal state before trying this is incredibly important. If you're going through a rough time, or you have any sort of ulterior motives, you will probably get burned. Those negative emotions inside of you might get amplified by the contact experience.

• 1:05:59Jesse Michels?

  Calling these things into your purview can be very dangerous, as with all of this stuff, there's a left-hand path and there's a right way to do it. But in its best instantiation, the idea is by extending your consciousness outwards, you become a lighthouse. You can essentially invite and lead the craft to you. When done in teams, again with a good vibe and intention associated with it, you can amplify the signal through collective focus. Multiple minds, one address. It's kind of like a synchronized love beam blasting straight into the fabric of spacetime. But here is where it gets dark. There's just no way to put lipstick on this pig. Jake personally remembers an incident transporting a craft where his consciousness was disrupted,

• 1:06:42Jesse Michels?

  possibly because a psionic asset's consciousness was stuck inside the craft, or because the craft itself had a consciousness that connected to him while flying it to its drop point.

• 1:06:52Speaker 04

  There are some potential issues that can happen if the psionic asset is still connected to the craft.

• 1:06:58Speaker 00

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' healthcare to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, theHouseMajorityPac.com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

• 1:07:35Speaker 04

  I hooked up as I'm flying back to the drop site. I'm like completely overwhelmed.

• 1:07:43Speaker 04

  I'm like bawling my eyes out, flying a helicopter at night, like trying not to run into mountains and shit. And I'm like, oh my God, this is not good.

• 1:07:56Speaker 04

  I just felt like I was in the presence of my mother. It was like a feminine energy that was loving and sad. And I don't know what it was.

• 1:08:08Jesse Michels?

  In leaks passed to the pseudonymous researcher Joey is not my name in 2023 by Michael Herrera, relayed to him through an insider we can now safely assume is Jake Barber before he went public. He paints a very grim reality. While psionic assets are taught how to communicate with ET and interface with ET tech, they're also chipped with a small tracking device and given a lot of heavy drugs because you have to be in a very positive, calm, happy mental state in order to do it.

• 1:08:41Jesse Michels?

  After several years of this experimentation and drug use, a lot of these people die or slip into a coma. These people are essentially treated like biological equipment, maintained and then replaced when worn out. Historically and on the inside, the term sometimes informally used for psionic assets at these sites is pink assets. They've essentially been treated like experimental human meat. I'm sure many of these programs are run differently. Some might be far more ethical than others, but let's just call a spade a spade here. As Jake has explained, psionic flight doesn't come without risks and it gets weirder.

• 1:09:22Jesse Michels?

  Allegedly, any random member of this unacknowledged special access program can't just hop in and fly a UFO if he's not psionically gifted. He'll get the silent treatment. The craft won't talk to him. It simply won't show up. According to this leak, in order to fly some of the ET craft, It has to be done through consciousness. A black group pilot can't fly an ET craft directly if he doesn't have the psionic abilities. So they devised a way to connect a psionic person to an advanced brain-machine interface, where the pilot can control the machine to control the person's intentions, and in turn, control the ET craft. The psionic asset's mind turns into a psychic joystick.

• 1:10:07Jesse Michels?

  So this is where things get even weirder and more multi-layered. There's a up-pilot behind this psionic asset that flies the UFO through the psionic asset, using the psionic asset's brain to route the UFO, commanding it through a machine which converts those commands into neural patterns in the psionic's brain, the craft's readable language. The psionic asset becomes a biological interface, a human drone wired into an exotic control system. No psionic equals no flight. Pretty insane, right? Except the black world has been hinting at this for years. Let's go back again to Lockheed Skunk Works CEO Ben Rich,

• 1:10:49Jesse Michels?

  who allegedly compared advanced propulsion to ESP, or extrasensory perception, instant nonlinear connections across spacetime. And then there's UFO whistleblower Don Phillips, also tied to Lockheed Skunk Works, saying that UFOs are a full-body connection, and that humanity has the quickest computer built into them. Humanity has the quickest, uh, computer built into them than any man-made computer can ever approach. And that includes the Cray computer. Phillips also riffs on the Firefox movie's mind-controlled helmet. Firefox, the most devastating killing machine ever built. The weapon system is one of the most advanced ever conceived,

• 1:11:33Jesse Michels?

  with a thought-guided, thought-controlled arsenal onboard the plane. Think your commands, steer with your eyes, fire with pure thought.

• 1:11:44Jesse Michels?

  And then there's Philip J. Corso, who claimed to be at the Pentagon in the 50s doling out UFO material into the civil or private-side world. He claimed the technology ended up in places like Bell Labs. But he and his son, who has spent time with past American alchemy guest Danny Sheehan, have talked about a helmet with which you could steer a UFO with your mind.

• 1:12:08Speaker 02

  The fact that the UFOs appear to be navigated telepathically, for example, and that the craft have built into it some kind of an AI capacity to respond telepathically to the control of the pilot, now that's pretty far out.

• 1:12:23Jesse Michels?

  Thanks to leaps in data signal technology, it might be reality. For Lockheed's Don Phillips, it's proof that technology is finally catching up to the fastest, most powerful processor in existence: the human mind. On certain dimensions involving intuition, still miles ahead of any machine ever built, even with large language models.

• 1:12:47Jesse Michels?

  So one Lockheed insider calls the human body "a supercomputer that can command aircraft with thought", while another says exotic propulsion works like ESP. Suddenly, Jake's story doesn't sound so crazy.

• 1:13:02Jesse Michels?

  But there's more proof Jake Barber isn't out of his mind. His story would have made a lot of sense to John Norsee, a former Navy pilot turned neuroengineer and weapons designer for Lockheed Martin. This is a man who is funded by NASA and DARPA for mind-reading research. In 1999, Norsee published a report on biofusion, a system he later described involving "brain-computer interfaces that convert thoughts into commands". No joystick or buttons. You just think, and the aircraft moves. According to a man named Doug Pasternak, who interacted with him, Norsee believed that a pilot could fly a plane by merely thinking. Basically, no delay, no latency.

• 1:13:46Jesse Michels?

  For example, when you say "right 090 degrees", the computer maps the pilot's electrical pattern in the brain and turns the pilot 090 degrees.

• 1:13:56Jesse Michels?

  And if there's a mistake and the pilot processes 080 degrees, the helmet catches the mistake and injects the right number into the pilot's mind. Electromagnetic waves straight to the dome. This is the tamest part of Norsen's work. His theory describes systems that could push your brain into any target state. Aggression, calm, focus, ecstasy. I'm sure there are tons of implications for this work for CIA mind control programs like MKUltra. But let's stick to UFOs. According to his colleague Duncan Laurie, Norsen theorized that every thought leaves an energy dispersion pattern. He called it a brain print, like a fingerprint, but for cognition.

• 1:14:40Jesse Michels?

  Intent, emotion, fear, joy. Each one has a pattern, not a static image, but something more like a posture, a configuration your brain holds that produces an action or state. So if thoughts or brain states leave patterns, how exactly do you capture them? As Norsen explained, think of your hand touching a mirror. It leaves a fingerprint. That's what biofusion does. It maps these brain prints using mathematical models. Just like you can find one person in a million through fingerprints, you can find one thought in a million. He wanted to build a full dictionary of these brain prints. The system learns what your brain looks like when you want to turn left,

• 1:15:25Jesse Michels?

  speed up, tilt, and stop. It doesn't just read you, it maps you. In theory, if you know the math of a brain pattern, you can potentially run it back into the brain and get the same state or feeling. You can think of biofusion like a brain-computer interface on steroids. Now here's where it gets interesting. A technical write-up by Autonomous 019 cites an internal Lockheed Martin R&D report by John Norsen called "Biofusion: Reflexive Control and Neuro-ergonomic Integration in Adaptive Cockpits."

• 1:16:04Jesse Michels?

  According to Norsen's citation, that report was funded under the contract N66001. I'll spare you the rest of the numbers. This is the same contract that NASA describes as an aviation weather information systems project. And that N66001 prefix traces back to the Navy's Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center in San Diego, today known as the Naval Information Warfare Center. So it appears we have a NASA-Navy hybrid, and not too far from where the Nimitz Tic-Tac sighting occurred in 2004.

• 1:16:37Speaker 05

  Looked down a small, saw a white Tic-Tac object with a longitudinal axis pointing north-south and moving very abruptly over the water.

• 1:16:44Jesse Michels?

  The same sighting that Ross Colthart swears involved a Lockheed craft.

• 1:16:48Speaker 03

  I now know categorically that the Tic-Tac is Lockheed Martin technology.

• 1:16:54Jesse Michels?

  On the surface, John Norsen's work looks like it somehow made it into a NASA weather contract, but it lines up with a mirrored Lockheed Martin document from around 2000 that lists his biofusion R&D report with the same contract number. Multiple independent references all point to the same thing: Norsen's biofusion neurocockpit work was riding under that contract. I guess if you had a project that involves flying UFOs via mind control, it makes sense you might bury it inside a weather program. By the early 2000s, Norsen's work basically vanishes from public view. And not long after, he does too, under very strange circumstances.

• 1:17:36Jesse Michels?

  Shortly before a planned lecture at the Naval War College in Newport, he emailed colleagues a cryptic line about his future talk.

• 1:17:44Speaker 05

  He had sent me an email and said, and some of the other people from ANZ, and he said, "Listen, I'm giving a lecture on my latest research at the Naval College in Newport. Do you want a VIP pass to come and attend it?" And I was like, "Oh, yeah." So he said, "Okay, I'll get it all set up." And then at the end of his email, you know, he was into, I forget what the term is for this kind of use of language.

• 1:18:12Jesse Michels?

  Semiotics.

• 1:18:13Speaker 05

  Semiotics, yeah. He was really into that.

• 1:18:16Jesse Michels?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:17Speaker 05

  And the last sentence in his email said, "Nors..." He said, "I RV'd the upcoming..."

• 1:18:30Speaker 05

  Lecture, John Not Heard Nor Seen.

• 1:18:36Jesse Michels?

  Whoa.

• 1:18:38Speaker 05

  And I remember calling Ann and saying, hey, Ann, what the heck is this last sentence mean? John Not Heard Nor Seen. I know he's in the semiotics and stuff, so you know, not Nor Seen is his last name, but John Not Heard Nor Seen? And then just like two weeks after that, he was found dead in a motel room.

• 1:18:57Jesse Michels?

  Jesus Christ. So that was some sort of code where it's like he, he remote viewed his own death.

• 1:19:02Speaker 05

  And he wasn't there.

• 1:19:03Jesse Michels?

  And this was code to say he's not heard nor seen.

• 1:19:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, what else could that mean?

• 1:19:08Jesse Michels?

  Oh, my God. Nor seen was gone, but the kind of work he was doing wasn't. And roughly 20 years later, they resurface, but in a different form. Enter Lockheed Martin engineers Charles Chase and Gerald Jonas with a patent called Cognitive Enhancement Using Feedback. I've personally had the pleasure of meeting Charles Chase and think he's a genius. And this patent might sound boring on the face of it, but it's not. It's describing a closed loop system that reads your brainwaves, compares them to a target brain state, and then hits you with light, sound, or electromagnetic pulses until your brain is nudged towards that target, like a tuning fork for the human mind. It's essentially an extremely sophisticated version of biofeedback.

• 1:19:55Jesse Michels?

  I've asked Charles Chase, and he doesn't know Nor seen, but you have to admit it is pretty interesting that there is a lineage pointing to the same company in the same sort of control loop. Measure your brain, compare it to a target state, stimulate it, and re-measure it. And then there are other people at this company, up to the executive level, that are talking about flying UFOs with your mind. So it looks like Nor seen's adaptive cockpit ideas could be the prototype. Looks like The Weather Project grew some teeth. In multiple interviews, including with me.

• 1:20:26Speaker 04

  The consciousness is activated through heightening intuition and lowering intellect.

• 1:20:31Jesse Michels?

  Barbara describes consciousness craft interfaces that sound impossible. But here's the documented R and D showing this technology has been actively developed. Whether it's been successfully integrated with exotic propulsion systems, we don't ultimately know. But the technical capability Barbara described isn't necessarily science fiction. It's just Lockheed Martin circa 1999.

• 1:20:54Jesse Michels?

  And by 2018, that same basic dream of humans interfacing directly with machines was no longer buried in obscure papers or patents. That year DARPA launched a program called N3, Next Generation Non-Surgical Neurotechnology. DARPA's official program brief openly talks about building bidirectional brain-machine interfaces for military use, including for things like control of unmanned aerial vehicles. One of the teams that advanced in N3 was led by Patel. And if you've done any deep research on UFO legacy programs, you know that Patel Memorial Institute is all over it.

• 1:21:34Jesse Michels?

  According to Patel's own 2020 press release, their team progressed to Phase 2 of the program. They were working directly with the Air Force Research Lab, Carnegie Mellon, and others on a system called BrainStorms, which stands for Brain System to Transmit or Receive Magneto-Electric Signals. BrainStorms uses nanoscale devices injected into the human bloodstream and guided with magnets into specific areas of the brain as part of a system designed for bidirectional neural interfacing. So by 2020, you don't just have vague patents and R&D rumors. You have DARPA openly funding a nanoscale injectable brain-computer interface with

• 1:22:15Jesse Michels?

  the Air Force Research Lab's involvement that could be a stepping stone towards warfighters eventually interfacing with aerial vehicles. Or it could simply represent an advancement in that capability which was established years before. Now for a different track. Stay with me here. In 2016, the Navy filed a patent under inventor Salvatore-Païss for what they called "craft using an inertial mass reduction device." The patent describes a craft that manipulates high-energy electromagnetic fields to achieve exotic propulsion, a setup that requires precise, real-time control of its own field geometry. You need something that can sense its internal field configuration and how it interacts with

• 1:22:59Jesse Michels?

  the surrounding environment and adjust in real time, something faster than a Faster than a keyboard, something like a mind. What you won't see in the open record is the obvious next step. Plug those worlds together. If Jake Barber is right, that missing link lives in special access programs that don't get patented at all. So to recap, layer one, Lockheed develops and patents brain-to-machine interfaces. Layer two, the Navy patents craft that require electromagnetic field manipulation. Layer three, psionic assets, human intuitives jacked into exotic craft through neural interfaces, translating thought into propulsion.

• 1:23:41Jesse Michels?

  I'm not saying that we have a verified Salvatore Payi saucer in a hangar synced to a psionic asset with that exact setup. I am saying that Barber's psionic pilot story sounds wild. Until you look at the R&D lineage and realize every piece of that stack is already sitting in white papers, patents, and weather contracts.

• 1:24:04Jesse Michels?

  So far, we have a fake mountain, drugged psychics, and spacecrafts that only fly if you plug a human mind into them. What's next, do you ask? The moon's fake, clouds aren't really clouds, birds are surveilling us? Yeah, DARPA's R&D portfolio does not make that less creepy. Zoom out of Koyame, and you'll see a pattern. Mountains, paramilitaries, and vanishing crafts. It starts to look less like random campfire stories and more like puzzle pieces. Take Sedona, Vision Quest capital of America, the land of crystals and trust fund shamans. Famed for its Martian landscape and vortex spas, it's all very eat, pray, love. But once the sun sets behind the red rocks, the vibe starts to shift.

• 1:24:49Jesse Michels?

  The notorious Bradshaw Ranch is ground zero for Sedona's high strangeness. There's even a book about it called Merging Dimensions, involving a rumored portal on the ranch, massive cargo planes descending towards mountains where nothing exists, and lights shooting out of canyons as if the landscape itself is alive. There are constant claims of strange activity at Bradshaw Ranch in Secret Canyon. With reports of guys with military-style guns. No surprise, the ranch was sold to the US National Forest for climate research in partnership with the Department of Energy and Oak Ridge National Lab. Nothing to see here. Whispers of a rumored base near Secret Mountain aren't new.

• 1:25:33Jesse Michels?

  Journalist Ross Colthart went to Sedona and came back a believer.

• 1:25:37Speaker 03

  I am in no doubt whatsoever, Jesse, that there is a deep, underground, military bunker that was built in the 1950s

• 1:25:44Jesse Michels?

  Uh huh.

• 1:25:45Speaker 03

  Under Secret Mountain. That's what it's called. It's the hilarious thing.

• 1:25:49Jesse Michels?

  It's named Secret Mountain.

• 1:25:50Speaker 03

  It's called Secret Mountain.

• 1:25:51Jesse Michels?

  Unbelievable. And that's not all. Outside of consulting multiple onsite witnesses, Ross personally witnessed anomalous activity around Secret Mountain.

• 1:26:01Speaker 03

  And if you looked at a particular place over Secret Mountain, you would see this big orb being escorted by helicopters, rising from behind Secret Mountain. And we watched at 1:30 in the morning. And sure enough, up comes this beautiful, golden orb. Gigantic.

• 1:26:20Jesse Michels?

  It's not every day you see orbs escorted by Blackhawks like a presidential motorcade. But zoom in a little and look closely, you'll find something else. Investigators digging into rumors of underground facilities near Secret Mountain and Bradshaw Ranch kept hitting the same anomaly. A tunnel. Geophysical surveys and magnetometry by Terra Exploration Group showed a straight, man-made tunnel roughly 50 feet in diameter, running like a hidden artery from Secret Mountain to Bradshaw Ranch to the front gate of the Clarkdale Cement Plant, which John Bradshaw claims used to be the biggest employer in town and was guarded and fenced like a military site.

• 1:27:04Speaker 03

  And there's massive amounts of electrical power going into the ground

• 1:27:10Jesse Michels?

  Hmm.

• 1:27:11Speaker 03

  Under Bradshaw Ranch. And we didn't put this in the feature-length film that we put to air on primetime, but it runs in the full-length interview with Paul, my friend.

• 1:27:22Jesse Michels?

  Hmm.

• 1:27:24Speaker 04

  A ground penetrating radar check on the road around Bradshaw Ranch. And we found a 50 foot wide reinforced steel concrete highly visible on ground penetrating radar. Literally just under the ground.

• 1:27:38Jesse Michels?

  Wow. If you think this is beyond belief, underground military bases exist across the United States. They are called DUMs, or deep underground military bases. Richard Soder wrote an amazing book about them that I recommend you check out. There are also reports of hikers near Sedona, walking into something out of a black op fever dream. Armed men in black, insignia free uniforms, M16s in hand, standing in the middle of Coco Nino National Forest. These guys aren't militia, they don't match any unit anyone can identify. And this isn't just Sedona. This exact same ghost force keeps popping up in other hot zones across the United States.

• 1:28:20Jesse Michels?

  Head northeast to Skinwalker Ranch in Utah's Uint Basin, and the vibe shifts from moonstones to pure dread. This place doesn't want you here. The Ute tribe won't even talk about it. They call it cursed ground, the path of the skinwalker. And if you spend any time on the ranch, you start to understand why. Drones malfunction, helicopters lose power, equipment dies. I am transfixed on that tacky room. For all intents and purposes, I'm in that room. And so, I just, I said out loud, okay, this is stupid.

• 1:28:54Speaker 02

  And then I said, alright, if you got something you want to show me, show me. If you got something you want to tell me, tell me. What the hell, high living? That's creepy.

• 1:29:05Jesse Michels?

  UFOs don't just fly over Skinwalker. They interact and descend, vanishing into mesas like ghosts passing through walls. Sound familiar? Owner Brandon Fugel openly describes Blackhawks circling with no transponders, shaking the house, running constant surveillance.

• 1:29:23Speaker 04

  We had a situation above the triangle where we were launching rockets, of course, one of numerous occasions. And a prominent UAP, unidentified aerial phenomenon ends up appearing. And then what happens within minutes following? Blackhawks helicopter comes right over the mesa, descends over the property.

• 1:29:47Speaker 07

  And just hovers right over the South Field.

• 1:29:52Jesse Michels?

  He also described a time where a UFO dropped down from the sky, entered the East Field portion of the ranch below a helicopter, and then exited from a mesa.

• 1:30:02Speaker 07

  Does it look like it comes from right there? It came out of the mesa, right there. Wow.

• 1:30:09Speaker 07

  That is unbelievable, gentlemen.

• 1:30:11Jesse Michels?

  During all of this, drones and other sensor equipment malfunctioned. Previous Skinwalker Ranch owner, Robert Bigelow, tells another story about a UFO flying lazy figure eights at low altitude, then shooting straight into a mountain. And so they stand there and they're watching this. And then it deviates dramatically and it shoots off at low altitude, right into the mountain itself. But there's no explosion. It's just gone. In another case near Skinwalker Ranch, he describes a similar craft doing the same thing, shooting straight into the mountain as if the stone was a doorway. If we zoom out, it gets even stranger. During the CIA's remote viewing program in 1973,

• 1:30:54Jesse Michels?

  psychic spy Pat Price described a massive underground base inside Mount Hayes, Alaska. It had advanced technology, consoles, personnel that looked like military. He named three more bases: Mount Perdido in Spain, Mount Inyanani in Zimbabwe, Mount Zile in Australia. Years later, Joe McMonigal, another extremely talented remote viewer, was given the same coordinates blind. He saw the same mountains with the same underground command centers. And then he saw something else. The bases were connected, like nodes of a network. And when he remote viewed Mount Perdido in Spain, he saw how it was built, not by non-human intelligence,

• 1:31:39Jesse Michels?

  but by us, helicopters, cargo crates, human personnel moving materials into the mountain. Is it really possible to see through?

• 1:31:49Speaker 03

  Someone else's eyes or sense through their senses. Actually, we're not sure exactly how it works, but it is possible to report on the position or place that they're located.

• 1:32:00Jesse Michels?

  Once a private company has reverse engineered enough non-human technology, its capabilities can leap decades or centuries ahead of our own military. At that point, you're talking about a parallel civilization with its own cities, its own private armies. In physics, we won't discover for another century.

• 1:32:21Jesse Michels?

  People seem to disappear on all of these mountains. The mountains contain geomagnetic anomalies. UFOs appear, often coming in and out of the mountains. The mountains almost feel like an air pocket of a different consensus reality. As my friend and legendary UFO researcher, Richard Dolan, might say, a breakaway civilization. And this is the real takeaway. After years of researching this stuff myself, people always want to know how I shake out on what's actually going on with UFOs and the government. This is the stuff you get into that's just hard to talk about. It's hard to say with a straight face. Jointly operated human and non-human bases with entirely insulated and separate chains of command.

• 1:33:04Jesse Michels?

  I know that sounds nuts, but think about it another way. Name me a topic other than UFOs with this much circumstantial evidence, but nothing concrete and definitive. So much smoke, but no fire. The control system around this stuff has to operate parapsychologically. They have to have next level abilities to cover themselves up. And if anyone is in charge of disclosure, they are. This is the truth behind some of these missing scientist cases. And it's the reason why certain technology trees involving gravity manipulation, nanotechnology, fusion and free energy tend to hit dead ends or get softly enveloped by bizarre shell outfits.

• 1:33:47Jesse Michels?

  The tech going nowhere in the civilian world, but getting siphoned into the black.

• 1:33:55Jesse Michels?

  And think about it logically. To think that non-human intelligence exists, but hasn't infiltrated governments and private aerospace, is maybe just as crazy as believing in non-human intelligence in the first place. You can't really be open to one and completely closed off to the other. If this is at all real, then of course, the government can't just disclose it. It's probably gonna get spoon-fed to us in fiction. How else do you prepare a world for the idea that the mountain on the horizon might not be a mountain at all? So yes, maybe Jake Barber didn't land another egg as he predicted when I interviewed him.

• 1:34:31Speaker 04

  We hope to do a demonstration and invite key members of the public from institutions and demonstrate this and maybe even get something to the ground.

• 1:34:42Jesse Michels?

  And his attempts to recreate legacy UFO efforts in a friendly, open-source way in the form of a private company called Skywatcher, seems like it's hit some snacks. But what if, in the tradition Tom DeLonge established with his book "Secret Machines", Jake designed this manuscript, "The Sentinels of Ether", to encode the real truth in fiction? And then go on to use the Pentagon's own review process and redactions as authentication? If just two chapters of this "Sentinels of Ether" story that exists today online triggered a firestorm of black ink, what is hiding in the rest? What was redacted? If this sounds like fiction, then good. Because that's exactly where they've been hiding it.

• 1:35:26Jesse Michels?

  In plain sight, wrapped in stories we were taught not to take seriously. And maybe that's the point. A reality this shattering can't be announced. It has to be drip-fed, encoded in movies, buried in books, disguised as entertainment until we're ready to see it for what it really is. We don't need a billion-dollar black budget, psionic handlers, or brain chips. We have the hardware, we have the brainwaves, and we have a love beam they can't jam. Eight billion biological antennas walking around on the surface of planet Earth. Homegrown receivers capable of connecting to a field the black world spent 70 years Trying to monopolize because there's a far more radical thesis than they're hiding UFOs.

• 1:36:09Jesse Michels?

  It's more like they're hiding us from ourselves. The technology isn't in the craft. It's in human neurology and in the human spirit. And they've spent 70 years making sure that we don't figure that out. Non-human intelligence doesn't need a press conference at the White House. They've been making contact through back channels, indigenous tribes, secret societies, occult practitioners, psychonauts, lone religious monks, or just some kid sending coherent love beams out his bedroom window. Sooner or later, something might pick up. In the words of Jake Barber, "We're not alone."

• 1:36:48Speaker 04

  The skies aren't classified. Your conscience can't be redacted.

• 1:36:52Jesse Michels?

  I encourage us all to look upward and look inward and to become the best versions of ourselves quickly. We need you. A new era awaits. Until next time, I'm Jesse Michaels and this is American Alchemy.

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• 1:38:01Jesse Michels?

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• 1:38:46Jesse Michels?

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