Encounters x287 - Paranormal Lineage and Inherited Haunted Objects

This week’s Encounters episode is all about the paranormal gifts – the objects and, potentially the curses, we inherit. From haunted chairs and spooky mirrors passed down through generations, to psychic grandmas, and ghostly grandfathers waving their missing limbs from beyond the veil, these stories prove that family ties don’t end in the grave. We’re getting into: A haunted mirror in Australia hosts a spirit girl who walks into the glass… A great-grandmother’s chair brings something spooky home — but was it really her in the TV reflection? A phone rings at 11:55pm on a birthday — exactly one year after someone joked about “heaven getting a phone.” A young woman connects with the ghost of Alice… repeatedly, across states, dreams, and decades. A Peruvian family lineage of psychics and shamans leads to elf sightings, Ouija chaos, and ghosts trying to ride piggyback. Whether it’s ghost girls in mirrors or spirits following your bloodline, this episode will have you side-eyeing that antique your aunt just gave you. Some things are passed down — and sometimes the spirits refuse to leave. 🕯️ Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:18Speaker 02

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• 2:07Corinne Vien?

  Do we just stare blankly in the camera?

• 2:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know why I took a sip of my coffee the second we started.

• 2:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 2:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Poor decision.

• 2:15Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi.

• 2:16Corinne Vien?

  This is Two Girls One Ghost.

• 2:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two Girls One Ghost. And we are your Ghostesses. That is Corinne.

• 2:21Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm Sabrina and I feel very exposed.

• 2:24Corinne Vien?

  Well, because you're given crotch shot if you're not careful. So everyone go watch on YouTube for a chance to see.

• 2:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do have, they have shorts. Little.

• 2:33Corinne Vien?

  Now you're pulling your skirt up.

• 2:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It has shorts underneath.

• 2:38Corinne Vien?

  It's very cute.

• 2:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank you.

• 2:40Corinne Vien?

  And if you're wondering why I've been wearing a hat nonstop for months, Sabrina can tell you.

• 2:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're hiding your baby hairs and you can't quite get the front tamed.

• 2:51Corinne Vien?

  No, no hot tool will do anything.

• 2:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you can't be tamed, girl.

• 2:54Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 2:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I've never called you girl before. That felt really, really wrong.

• 2:57Corinne Vien?

  Hey, girl.

• 2:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey, girl. I've never.

• 3:01Corinne Vien?

  Seems so weird.

• 3:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, inappropriate.

• 3:04Corinne Vien?

  That's like, I feel like I could never say mama when people, like if I were ever a nurse and they're like, hey mama.

• 3:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 3:10Corinne Vien?

  It feels weird.

• 3:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, that and just like calling anyone a pet name. I feel like, like.

• 3:17Corinne Vien?

  Like people are so cool who can get away with like saying honey to strangers. Like, hey hun, or hey, oh, that doesn't.

• 3:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right, doesn't feel good.

• 3:26Corinne Vien?

  How inauthentic of me, but I, I'm always envious of people who could just like, it's part of their personality. It's who they are.

• 3:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sometimes it runs you the wrong way.

• 3:34Corinne Vien?

  Oh, really? Well, because those aren't people who should be saying it. You have to know yourself and can you get away with it?

• 3:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 3:40Corinne Vien?

  I know that I cannot.

• 3:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like there's.

• 3:42Corinne Vien?

  I could probably get away with like, bro.

• 3:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I like to call people bro.

• 3:46Corinne Vien?

  Hey, honey?

• 3:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 3:47Corinne Vien?

  That feels very condescending when I say it.

• 3:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's the thing. And I think like when younger women call me that specifically, I feel gross. It's like.

• 3:56Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, but if they're southern.

• 3:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or like Australian.

• 4:00Corinne Vien?

  Or like just really freaking cool.

• 4:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They call you, yeah, we're not cool.

• 4:04Corinne Vien?

  I think that's the thing. You have to be a certain coolness level or from a certain area and then it feels right.

• 4:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We didn't inherit the cool genes.

• 4:11Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 4:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But.

• 4:13Corinne Vien?

  Stop, bra.

• 4:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We inherited.

• 4:14Corinne Vien?

  That feels better.

• 4:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm trying to do a segue.

• 4:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Gosh, do you want me to put you in the freezer?

• 4:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would never. I actually was thinking about this. I could, I don't have anyone in my freezer because no one's pissed me off enough to put them in the freezer.

• 4:31Corinne Vien?

  Do you have a freezer that's big enough?

• 4:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, like, not like your body. Sorry. I meant like the, like, you know, when you write a name and you put it in a little like jar and put it in your freezer? It's witchy.

• 4:41Corinne Vien?

  No, I did not know about that.

• 4:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, if people piss you off, yeah. There's little like spell jars you can create, put them in your freezer.

• 4:47Corinne Vien?

  I can't believe you would threaten me like that.

• 4:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, you interrupted me.

• 4:50Corinne Vien?

  I would almost rather my body be in the freezer than you write my name and put it in a spell jar in the freezer like that. Before I was like, okay, whatever. Just a yes and like, I'll just go off the side. Now I'm mad. Now I'm mad at you.

• 5:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Now I'm going in your freezer.

• 5:03Corinne Vien?

  Now you might, now I'm gonna start a jar with the only name in it being yours.

• 5:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, man. Okay, yes. If you don't know, there is this little like witch thing you can do, and we're not profeshs, but yeah, if someone wrongs you, write their name on a piece of paper. You put like some salt, lemon, and whatever other herbs you want in your little jar and put it in the freezer.

• 5:28Corinne Vien?

  I like that.

• 5:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You ice them out.

• 5:29Corinne Vien?

  It's very cool. Ice them out. And it doesn't do any harm to them, but maybe just to your relationship?

• 5:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, and it's kind of just being like, it's like setting a boundary and just being like, nah.

• 5:38Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well, understood. Boundary set.

• 5:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 5:41Corinne Vien?

  Wasn't it like last episode, you said you don't like confrontation?

• 5:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't remember that.

• 5:46Corinne Vien?

  You just confronted me real hard.

• 5:50Corinne Vien?

  All stop talking. Sabrina's segueing into the ghost stories, everyone.

• 5:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, the segue is gone now.

• 5:55Corinne Vien?

  Well, you actually did a really cool segue into a witchy spell that I didn't know.

• 5:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's true.

• 6:00Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that was a good segue.

• 6:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Education.

• 6:02Corinne Vien?

  Why am I complimenting you?

• 6:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was gonna say, we didn't inherit the cool gene, but we did inherit some ghost stories.

• 6:10Corinne Vien?

  Hell, yeah.

• 6:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  From all of you, and you all inherited either paranormal abilities, haunted objects, and all types of things. So today's theme is inherited.

• 6:21Corinne Vien?

  It's broad.

• 6:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it's spooky.

• 6:24Corinne Vien?

  And it's good. We have a lot of them.

• 6:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We do have a lot.

• 6:26Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I'll go first.

• 6:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Was it my grandma or was it the devil?

• 6:30Corinne Vien?

  Well, it depends on who your grandma is, because I was gonna be like, oh, my god, never. But then I was thinking of some people's grandparents are very...

• 6:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mean. And it reminds me of the Devil's Tramping Ground when we talked about that in the Appalachian episode, how there was like the old lady rocking in the rocking chair.

• 6:45Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yes.

• 6:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Alright, so this is from Emma. Hello, how are you guys? We're in a fight, so we're

• 6:50Corinne Vien?

  We're unwell.

• 6:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  questionable. My name is Emma and I absolutely love your guys' podcast. My family is really into the paranormal. Well, just my mom and I. But when I was about 13 years old, maybe a little younger, my great grandma passed away and we inherited a lot of her things. But her favorite thing was her chair.

• 7:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She would specifically always sit on it when we would come visit. And so we brought it into our living room and faced it towards our TV. Really, none of us would sit in it. It was just one of those chairs that was there. The house we were living in always had weird things that would go on, like lights would be flipped on and off, or it sounded like doors would open and close. And overall, you could get a weird feeling about the house. One day, when I woke up, about a few weeks after we had brought my great grandmother's things into our home, I walked out of my room. And to give you a little perspective of how our house was set up, my room was on the opposite side of the house. It was a one-story house. But when you walked out of either my room, or my brother's room, or my parents' room, you'd step into this long hallway, and you could see all the way across the house to the other side, where you would see the TV hanging on the wall

• 7:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  in the living room. So, I walk out of my room, and I hear some weird cracking noises. But I assume it's just the house settling.

• 8:01Corinne Vien?

  Always the assumption people make.

• 8:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then I looked up, and I saw that the TV was turned off, but it looked like there was a face staring at me in the reflection of the TV.

• 8:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It looked just like my great grandmother who had passed away. I immediately started bawling. I ran back into my room and called my mom, and she thought I was just seeing things. And maybe I was, because I was tired. But till this day, I'm now 20 years old, I still believe it was my grandma sitting there. To make it even more creepy, a few weeks after that incident, I was in the dining room waiting for my mom to come pick me up. And I had my backpack sitting on the table that we had in the kitchen. My backpack completely flew off of the table. I grabbed it and ran out of the house. I also have that on video if you guys want to see it. Yeah, Emma, we do.

• 8:45Corinne Vien?

  Finally, you already said it.

• 8:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A little while later, we were packing up to move and my parents were at work and I was home alone, just packing everything up. And for some reason, I think I was cleaning my parents' room, under their bed and everything. But when I was cleaning under the bed, I felt a box. Their bed was very close to the ground and I really couldn't put my whole head under there. So I pulled out the box. Guess what was inside the box?

• 9:06Corinne Vien?

  I know that this isn't right and I know that I should be guessing the correct thing, but immediately my, my brain went grandma's head. Cause I think you put it in me with the freezer comments.

• 9:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, what do you think is the right answer?

• 9:18Corinne Vien?

  Can't remember.

• 9:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, Ouija board. I like how you said I can't remember.

• 9:23Corinne Vien?

  Cause I had like something specific in mind.

• 9:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 9:26Corinne Vien?

  And then, nevermind, my brain is struggling today.

• 9:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's okay.

• 9:29Corinne Vien?

  I haven't had enough. Sabrina just brought me the coffee.

• 9:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Chug a little bit more. It was a Ouija board. I immediately threw the box back under the bed, ran into my room. I was not touching anything else related to my parents until they got home. I do not mess with Ouija boards. So yeah, I wanted your opinions. Seeing the reflection in the TV, it looked like my grandma, but it didn't feel like her. I got a scary feeling from it. I have a lot more creepy stories I can tell. I hope you guys have a great day. Stay creepy. Emma.

• 9:59Corinne Vien?

  Dang, that is really creepy. Whenever you're not expecting to find a Ouija board and find one, I feel like that's almost scarier than playing one and opening yourself up to the possibilities of the spirit realm.

• 10:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Also, like Emma, how often are your parents pulling this out from under the bed and just in their bed at night while you're all sleeping, using the Ouija board together?

• 10:18Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 10:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is this their like nighttime ritual? Gotta say goodnight to grandma.

• 10:23Corinne Vien?

  I like that. Yes, people pray at night. Go say your bedtime prayers. Go say goodnight to grandma. Me, Miles waiting for you.

• 10:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We have some questions for your mom. And then I do wonder, okay, I mean, Emma said it didn't feel like her grandma. So that does make me wonder if it was. Cause I always wanna say, trust your gut and your instinct. If you don't think it's someone, trust that. But the chair is facing the TV. It's a couple of weeks after great grandmother passed away.

• 10:50Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 10:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm not surprised, I wouldn't be surprised if grandma's sitting in the chair, her favorite chair. Looking at the TV.

• 10:58Corinne Vien?

  Just visiting. But then at the same time, it's like, it's the whole question of like residual energies for like the memory of an item. If she spends so much time in that chair, was that authentically her? Or was it like almost the chair remembering her? The space around it remembering her.

• 11:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The chair missed her.

• 11:13Corinne Vien?

  The chair missed her.

• 11:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is so sweet.

• 11:16Corinne Vien?

  That's another children's book. Let's write that one down.

• 11:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 11:19Corinne Vien?

  Uh, someone, is someone writing down our 200 children's books that we have yet to write?

• 11:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 11:25Corinne Vien?

  Okay, when you first started reading this, I immediately was reminded of my brother's encounter in our basement. He used to sit on, back in like the late nineties, there were those gaming chairs that were kind of like, almost like rockers, but they were right on the ground. Do you remember those?

• 11:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I remember exactly what you're talking about.

• 11:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 11:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 11:45Corinne Vien?

  So my brother had one of those and he would sit on the floor in the basement and play video games. And there was a couch right behind that gaming chair for like, you know, non gamers to sit on. And he turned the TV off.

• 11:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh no.

• 11:58Corinne Vien?

  And in the reflection of the black TV screen was a man sitting on the couch behind him, watching. And he like bolted upstairs.

• 12:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What game was he playing?

• 12:08Corinne Vien?

  It wasn't anything where it was like, oh, you know, like what if it was just like the reflection of someone in Call of Duty or whatever? It was like.

• 12:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, it was someone watching him play.

• 12:17Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. But it does make me wish that we had written down descriptions of all of these people. Because now it's like, while it was terrifying at the time, now, however many years later, wouldn't it be great to go back and be like, wait, that was actually.

• 12:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So and so.

• 12:31Corinne Vien?

  Our grandpa Bob.

• 12:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Or like the encounters that everyone had with that one person.

• 12:38Corinne Vien?

  Right. Yeah. Well, that did happen in my house, but that's a time and a place.

• 12:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's a time and a place.

• 12:45Corinne Vien?

  That you're not a part of, it happened in the past.

• 12:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Are you getting back? You're finding it. You're finding your way here.

• 12:55Corinne Vien?

  I'm swimming through mud today. This is called Ghost Story from Australia.

• 12:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Love it.

• 13:00Corinne Vien?

  You can call us hun if you would like.

• 13:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 13:02Corinne Vien?

  Or babe. Yet you say, hey, girls. And so.

• 13:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That works too. Whatever you want.

• 13:07Corinne Vien?

  Hey, girls. I have a few long creepy stories. They're not long. But I myself have witnessed and some that my family members have witnessed. My family has always been susceptible to the paranormal.

• 13:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I like that, saying susceptible.

• 13:20Corinne Vien?

  Susceptible.

• 13:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Rather than like, we're open to it.

• 13:23Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. So my first story goes back to around 1986, when my mom was roughly six years old. My mom lived with her parents and three older siblings, one of the siblings being her eldest brother, Scott. Scott suffered from many illnesses, causing him to have random seizures. My nan's bedroom in the house was located across the hall from the bathroom. So if you were laying on her bed, you could see the bath, the sink and the old medicine cabinet style mirror that you could open up. One night, while everyone was in bed, sleeping, my uncle started having an absent seizure.

• 13:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, no.

• 13:56Corinne Vien?

  Being that everyone was asleep, no one knew. The bathroom mirror swung open, hitting the reflection of the street light through my nan's window, shining the light directly into her eyes so that she would wake up. And she went to go assist my uncle. Immediate chills.

• 14:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's a wow.

• 14:16Corinne Vien?

  Spirit intervention.

• 14:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Seriously.

• 14:18Corinne Vien?

  Also, how creative of that ghost to be like, use the bathroom mirror across from nan's room to do the reflection of the mirror, hit her eyes just so. Wake nan, save uncle.

• 14:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Damn.

• 14:30Corinne Vien?

  This house had many, many more paranormal events, and I will include some in the next story. So my mom and my auntie are quite close in age, which meant that they shared a room growing up. They shared a bunk bed, which had a tall mirror at the end of it that I later inherited. My mom's bed was at the bottom and my auntie's was the top bunk. One night, my mom saw my auntie standing in front of the mirror, checking herself out and combing through her hair with her fingers. My mom annoyed asked her, why are you up? Can you get me a drink?

• 15:01Corinne Vien?

  Sorry, I I misread that, but I like my version better.

• 15:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Get a lot.

• 15:05Corinne Vien?

  She just.

• 15:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Why are you up? Can you get me a drink?

• 15:09Corinne Vien?

  It's a while you're up, can you get me a drink? But I like, why are you up? Go get me a drink.

• 15:16Corinne Vien?

  My auntie ignored her, to which my mom said louder and more annoyed, "I need a drink. You're already up. You can go get it for me." This is very bossy.

• 15:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sisters.

• 15:28Corinne Vien?

  My auntie then reached her head over to the side of the bunk and said, "What are you talking about? I'm in bed, trying to sleep." My mom, confused, replied with, "Well, then who is that then?"

• 15:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So she's still seeing her?

• 15:43Corinne Vien?

  I guess so. My auntie looked over at the end of the bed and screamed as loud as she could. This then startled the little girl, and she walked back into the mirror.

• 15:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Shut up.

• 15:58Corinne Vien?

  I inherited this mirror, and later I had the same occurrence.

• 16:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Same little girl?

• 16:04Corinne Vien?

  When I was about seven, I lived in this house that I was terrified of. I hated being there because something just really fell off, but I didn't know what. One night, while I was fast asleep, my stepdad, who was a skeptic, noticed that I had gotten out of bed. He kindly told me to please get back into bed, and I ignored him. He then asked me again, "Please go back to bed," not really being able to see me properly as it was too dark down the hallway. And then he got up to show me back to my room, and when he followed me around the corner, I disappeared. He then reached the door and noticed that I actually was asleep on my top bunk.

• 16:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whoa.

• 16:38Corinne Vien?

  The time between him walking around the corner and reaching my room was less than three seconds. Not enough time for me to get into my bed, the top bunk, and fall asleep. He didn't know at that time that my mom was watching this all unfold and was in shock as she recognized the little girl from her experience from when she was around seven years old.

• 16:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Who's this little girl?

• 16:59Corinne Vien?

  This mirror has been now given to my husb- oh, my god.

• 17:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My husband?

• 17:03Corinne Vien?

  My husband.

• 17:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, actually, that makes me think of when, so Jerry from Ladies and Tangents is now engaged to Sierra's husband's brother.

• 17:15Corinne Vien?

  And her cousin's husband's brother.

• 17:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. So then, when she posted, like, a clip where they're talking about it, the search on Instagram said, "How to propose to your cousin."

• 17:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Come on.

• 17:33Corinne Vien?

  I saw someone else comment and they said something like they cousins so hard they ended up with the same last name again.

• 17:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 17:39Corinne Vien?

  Which I really like.

• 17:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Now they're sisters.

• 17:41Corinne Vien?

  That was so cute.

• 17:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sister cousins.

• 17:43Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God, they are sister in laws now.

• 17:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm hmm.

• 17:46Corinne Vien?

  Ohio, keep Ohio weird, right?

• 17:50Corinne Vien?

  The mirror then was given to my cousin who experienced something as well. She was home alone and at the time she was taking selfies as young fourteen year olds do. She looked back at the pictures and noticed the apparition of the girl was caught right behind her, walking into the room where the mirror was kept.

• 18:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do we have this photo?

• 18:08Corinne Vien?

  I have attached the picture.

• 18:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Shut up.

• 18:11Corinne Vien?

  It wasn't long after that we decided it was time to get rid of this mirror altogether. Okay, so you can see in the photo to the right, there's like a dark ish figure.

• 18:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, it looks tall.

• 18:24Corinne Vien?

  It does look really tall. Whoa, they keep calling her a little girl, but like.

• 18:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She looks tall.

• 18:29Corinne Vien?

  She's very tall.

• 18:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She almost looks like she's walking towards the wall and has a ponytail.

• 18:34Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 18:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That gives me the chilly willys.

• 18:37Corinne Vien?

  All right, third story. This story involves something that happened directly to me. My uncle that I mentioned in my first story actually died by suicide when I was five due to health conditions that he faced. One night when I was about twelve or thirteen, it was twenty sixteen, I had my house phone on top of my bed as I had been on the phone with my nan a little while beforehand. Exactly eleven fifty five P M, the phone starts to ring, startling me awake. As I tried to focus on the number and who could be calling this late, I realized that there was actually no number showing. I tried to answer, but the button to pick up wasn't working. My mom then walked into my room to see what was going on, and so I gave the phone to her. It was still ringing and she tried to get it to stop, but it wouldn't.

• 19:19Corinne Vien?

  Usually calls would ring maybe for twenty seconds before hitting voicemail, but this phone rang for five minutes straight. No number showing, no buttons working. It finally stopped ringing at twelve A M.

• 19:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So five full minutes of ringing.

• 19:31Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, my mom then tried to reverse call to see who it would ring through. Through to, but there was no record of anyone even calling found.

• 19:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 19:40Corinne Vien?

  We ignored it. We went to bed. And when we woke up the next day trying to forget what happened, it wasn't too long until my mom looked up at me in shock and showed me her phone. A Facebook memory of a status she made one year beforehand had popped up stating, "Happy heavenly birthday to my big brother Snuff. We miss you so much. It's 2015 and about time heaven got a phone." I have attached the status to this email as well, which she did attach a screenshot, but we won't show it because it has people in it. We knew then that the phone call was my uncle letting us know that he was there. I hope you guys have enjoyed my stories. Chelsea.

• 20:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenewvo in a couple of weeks.

• 20:24Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 20:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I recently had some medical issues in my family and everyone in my family is like, "Let's just do everything we can to get ahead and take our own health into our own hands." Prenewvo's whole body scan is a radiation-free MRI designed to help provide a detailed, non-invasive look at your body in under an hour, and it helps evaluate across major organs and systems, including the brain, spine, abdomen, pelvis, and more. Prenewvo's whole body scan can help detect many cancers, aneurysms, and hundreds of other conditions. And they have memberships that bundle MRI scans, blood panels, and a personalized results review to track your health year after year.

• 21:06Corinne Vien?

  To learn more about Prenewvo and get $300 off your whole body MRI, go to prenewvo.com/tgog and use code TGOG. That's P-R-E-N-U-V-O.com/tgog. Terms and conditions apply.

• 21:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Receive $300 off Prenewvo whole body scans and executive and comprehensive memberships through January 31st. For full details, visit Prenewvo's website to read their terms and conditions and privacy notice. Prenewvo gifted me a whole body scan. A Prenewvo scan is a screening service, not diagnostic. Diagnosis and treatment are determined by your healthcare provider.

• 21:37Speaker 02

  This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Football has a play for just about everything. You can go deep, keep it on the ground, or draw up something nobody sees coming. And whether you want to run a flea flicker or the tush push, you need a plan to fit your unique situation. That's why State Farm takes the time to get to know you so they can help personalize coverage for your life and budget. Now that's a solid game plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

• 22:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Roller coaster, Chelsea.

• 22:07Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 22:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You really just took us up and down, flipped us around.

• 22:11Corinne Vien?

  I love that, though, that her mom was like, oh, I miss my brother. I wish heaven got a phone so that I could make a phone call to you. And then the next year, on the anniversary of his birthday, he was like, ring, ring, ring.

• 22:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ring for five full minutes.

• 22:27Corinne Vien?

  If Facebook hadn't given her the reminder, if she hadn't opened up Facebook, she wouldn't have realized the significance of the phone call.

• 22:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, boy.

• 22:37Corinne Vien?

  Dang. I wonder who's the mirror now, because they gave it up, so it's not in the family anymore. So someone else has inherited unintentionally.

• 22:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This little ghost girl.

• 22:45Corinne Vien?

  This little ghost girl in Haunted Mirror.

• 22:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She doesn't seem malevolent, like she just seems like she's, hey, I have a portal.

• 22:52Corinne Vien?

  Right, she's like doing her hair. Actually, I wouldn't mind having her.

• 22:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I wouldn't mind having her either.

• 22:57Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 22:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What if that leads to an alternate reality? And she found that you can go through a mirror and enter a different reality? And so she's just...

• 23:05Corinne Vien?

  She just does it from time to time.

• 23:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hopping back and forth, checking it out.

• 23:09Corinne Vien?

  I wonder what would happen if someone tried to follow her into the mirror? Right, because no one's ever done that.

• 23:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not yet.

• 23:15Corinne Vien?

  In the moments that she's going, and something is open, can you follow too?

• 23:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would love.

• 23:21Corinne Vien?

  What if you get stuck? Well, it sounds like she can pop out again. She'll probably bring it back out.

• 23:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I feel pretty good about you trying to find me.

• 23:29Corinne Vien?

  Mirror, mirror on the wall.

• 23:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The, the...

• 23:32Corinne Vien?

  It's Sunday morning, time to podcast after all. Like, I just throw the mic up to the mirror.

• 23:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm literally just a reflection.

• 23:40Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 23:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I wouldn't have to wear pants to work.

• 23:43Corinne Vien?

  That's true. Top up.

• 23:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. I have one...

• 23:47Corinne Vien?

  We'd make so much money if that happened. Can you imagine? What a commodity.

• 23:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Podcasters stuck in mirror.

• 23:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Continues to podcast.

• 23:54Corinne Vien?

  Guys, we would get rid of our Patreon. We'd do things for free.

• 23:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We'd be a famas. Okay, so this is from our listener, Dani, and it is called Ouija Board Mess and Peruvian Ghosties.

• 24:06Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, is this the one that you thought I stole?

• 24:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe.

• 24:11Corinne Vien?

  Lots of accusations over the past couple of weeks.

• 24:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You know, you never had a sister, and now you have me.

• 24:18Corinne Vien?

  I'm taking it pretty well, I think.

• 24:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you're adjusting pretty well.

• 24:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. Hi, my spooky queens. Queens. My name is Dani and I'm writing you from Lima, Peru, currently living in Canada, but my Peruvian background is more spooky. As is everyone who writes you, I'm a huge fan of the podcast. For starters, my entire family has a long lineage of witchy people with amazing abilities. My great uncle was a shaman in Trujillo, Peru, and everyone in the family, especially the women on my mom's side, have developed some sort of ability.

• 24:53Corinne Vien?

  I love how it's developed too. Like it's, like, maybe you're born with it, but it doesn't just, you still have to work on it a little bit.

• 25:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 25:00Corinne Vien?

  It happens with time and experience and exposure.

• 25:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly.

• 25:04Corinne Vien?

  Could happen to us.

• 25:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We still have time.

• 25:08Corinne Vien?

  Whoa, are we about to die while you're about to put me in your freezer?

• 25:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I meant like.

• 25:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, moving.

• 25:14Corinne Vien?

  Time's ticking.

• 25:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Tick, tick, tick. Ouija board realness, the tale of a dumb teenage girl. So I have always been sensitive to spirits and sensing their presences. So when we moved into a brand new house when I was in high school, I was bored one day and so, yeah, your girl decided to make a makeshift Ouija board. I used it and surprisingly, it worked.

• 25:32Corinne Vien?

  Always, always. I feel like, well, I guess we don't receive emails that say, I made a makeshift Ouija board and nothing happened. But I feel like we get a lot of the makeshift Ouija board.

• 25:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's all about intention, what you're opening yourself up to. It spelled out the name of a man. I can't quite remember now what the name was, but after I closed the session, some creepy things started happening in my house. One night I was sleeping when I felt my bed sink down as if someone sat down on it. I thought nothing of it and thought maybe it was my grandma. But let me just say, my grandma would never scare the crap out of me like this, so it was safe to assume it's not her. The next day, I was home alone after school and I heard a loud crash coming from my bathroom. My bathroom was a long rectangle. Picture sink on one end of the rectangle and the toilet on the other. Like a victim in a horror movie, I decided to go check out what happened. I entered the bathroom and I saw a painting, which is normally hung where the sink is,

• 26:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  had flown across the bathroom to where the toilet was.

• 26:28Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 26:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  As I was further inspecting the bathroom, I noticed three giant black scratches on the wall.

• 26:35Corinne Vien?

  Black.

• 26:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  At this point, I kind of knew, and pardon my language, I was fucked.

• 26:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 26:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would also feel this spirit climb onto my back as if I was giving it a pee back ride. And I would feel it try to push me down the stairs.

• 26:49Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God. Oh, I hate that.

• 26:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I finally confessed to my mom and told her what I had done. And she shared with me that she was also experiencing things ever since I did the Ouija board. She lost her keys and couldn't find them for like two weeks. We tore the house apart and could not find them until one day she saw them just laying there on the ottoman near the front door. And the keys had been placed in the shape of a pentagram. Each key pointing a different direction. The house was honestly beyond cleansing, so we decided to move.

• 27:20Corinne Vien?

  One in doubt, move out.

• 27:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All right.

• 27:22Corinne Vien?

  Holy crap, the keys, I would kind of feel initially like it was like a clue, like they're pointing in the direction that you need to go. But if they're pointing in basically every direction, it's like, what are you gonna do? Move out.

• 27:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Move out and lucky you were able to. But I worry about the people who moved into this house.

• 27:37Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 27:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, my second story is garden elves and my spirit seeing grandma. My grandmother always saw spirits, but one thing she had always seen was elves.

• 27:48Corinne Vien?

  Ah. I wish, I wish I wish upon a star. Please let me see dwarves and elves and fairies in my garden and trolls.

• 27:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe go to Peru. My grandmother would go out in the fields in Peru and play with her siblings. And she would often get separated from them. And she would sit in the fields and saw elves, yes elves, not like Santa elves, but think like gnomes with blonde hair and light colored eyes.

• 28:09Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 28:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They would dart back and forth and she never dared follow them in the field since there are legends that you should never follow these creatures. Later in life, she would see spirits everywhere in her house. She would see the spirit of a little girl playing peekaboo with her, hiding behind a wall in the kitchen. She figured it was just a playful spirit and didn't think much of it. But everywhere she went, she saw spirits.

• 28:30Corinne Vien?

  Whoa.

• 28:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have inherited.

• 28:32Corinne Vien?

  It's like beyond seeing spirits, she's seeing everything.

• 28:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Everything.

• 28:35Corinne Vien?

  Like all mystical.

• 28:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 28:37Corinne Vien?

  Beings.

• 28:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it's different from like occasionally seeing a spirit, she's seeing them everywhere.

• 28:42Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 28:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I just imagine like she's surrounded. How do you differentiate spirit versus human living? I inherited her gift, which makes me feel so happy. And now I'm not a medium. I only see them walking around or chilling in my house, but I can't help but wonder about all of the other ghost stories my family has that they have not shared. I have tons of other stories, but I love you divas from Dani.

• 29:05Corinne Vien?

  Dang, I really wish I had the powers of your mother.

• 29:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And grandmother, the whole family.

• 29:10Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, the whole family and maybe you. Cause it's all like, when's the moment that you're gonna realize you too see these elves?

• 29:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, Dani said she just sees spirits wandering around her house like all the time. How do you differentiate?

• 29:26Corinne Vien?

  Communicate with you? That's my question. Do they just go about life? And it's just like, oh, you're seeing them. They see you. It's just like this, you know, you, you pass by each other. Or is it kind of like, I'm picturing like in Medium or Ghost Whisperer, where sometimes you have a task, you have to help them. They realize you can see them and they're desperate to talk. I don't know. Well, I guess you do. Tell us.

• 29:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wouldn't it be fun to just like swap bodies for like a minute with Dani? Just to know.

• 29:51Corinne Vien?

  Oh, absolutely.

• 29:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See through your eyes.

• 29:53Corinne Vien?

  Oh, man, I really wish.

• 29:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 29:55Corinne Vien?

  This is making me upset that Halloween Town, like we can't just take a bus to Halloween Town.

• 30:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not yet, not yet.

• 30:01Corinne Vien?

  The Hogwarts hasn't let us in.

• 30:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I want to go to Universal Orlando so badly. They just opened the Ministry of Magic.

• 30:13Corinne Vien?

  You can go.

• 30:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, but I like now I want to go right now.

• 30:17Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I have an email called a visit from my one-legged grandfather. Hello, Ghostesses, Kelsey here. I found your podcast earlier this year, which was back in 2019, through my best friend, Jessica. Shout out Jessica.

• 30:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Shout out Pyramid Scheme for the win.

• 30:32Corinne Vien?

  It's me, Jessica. I'm in here.

• 30:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's that from? This is a TikTok?

• 30:38Corinne Vien?

  The hot chick, Rob Schneider.

• 30:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Never seen it.

• 30:41Corinne Vien?

  He like trades places with this like really hot girl, Jessica. And I'm going to play the clip. Is this a TikTok? No, this is 2002. How do you know my name?

• 30:54Corinne Vien?

  It's me.

• 30:57Corinne Vien?

  Jessica.

• 31:00Corinne Vien?

  Listen to you.

• 31:03Corinne Vien?

  I can't believe you don't know that reference.

• 31:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I'm going to watch this tonight.

• 31:06Corinne Vien?

  Oh, it is from 2002. Look at me.

• 31:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There you go.

• 31:08Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 31:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love Anna Faris. Okay, I'll watch that.

• 31:11Corinne Vien?

  Back to Jessica's email. Or no, it's Kelsey's email.

• 31:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Back to Kelsey's email. Okay.

• 31:20Corinne Vien?

  My interest in the paranormal began at a young age because I grew up in a haunted house across the street from a graveyard that is also probably haunted.

• 31:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Probably.

• 31:28Corinne Vien?

  There are tons of stories I could tell, but one in particular gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. This one comes from my mother. Before I can begin the story, we do have to rewind a bit. My grandfather, my dad's dad, had severe rheumatoid arthritis later in his life and also ended up contracting MRSA while in a nursing home. It's a type of staff.

• 31:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh geez.

• 31:50Corinne Vien?

  I can't pronounce it all. Due to all of these ailments, he ended up having one of his legs amputated at the knee.

• 31:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow.

• 31:57Corinne Vien?

  According to my mother, when my sister and I would go visit him, he would wave his amputated leg at us to make us laugh. During this time, my mom was also pregnant with my little brother. My parents did not want to know the gender of the baby before he was born, but my grandfather would always insist that the baby was a boy. Unfortunately, my grandfather passed away only two weeks before my brother was born, so he did not get to see that he was correct.

• 32:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 32:21Corinne Vien?

  Upon my grandfather's death, we inherited one of his favorite chairs, the one that he was commonly in when we would visit.

• 32:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Another chair.

• 32:28Corinne Vien?

  This chair sat in our living room for years as my siblings and I grew.

• 32:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do you think our chair, these chairs that we sit in, are gonna be haunted by us?

• 32:36Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I thought you were gonna ask if they were haunted. I'm like, these are from Wayfair.

• 32:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're just gonna be sitting in them so often and share stories?

• 32:44Corinne Vien?

  Maybe, yeah. Someone just hears like maniacal laughing every so often. Creepy whispers. My parents went on not thinking much of having this chair, but one day, when my brother was about two years old, he began staring at the chair with no one in it and laughing. My mom asked him, what are you laughing at? To this, he answered, that man waving his leg at me.

• 33:10Corinne Vien?

  My mom freaked out. My brother never met my grandfather. My parents had never told him anything about my grandfather. There was no way he would have known about his amputated leg. Other weird things would happen too, as my brother got older. For example, he was given an old T-shirt of my grandfather's that he would wear to sleep. And every time he would wear the shirt, weird things would always happen, like doors opening, simple knocks around the house. I really do think it was my grandfather who was attached to my brother in some way, but things have seemed to calm down since my brother has grown up. I don't know if this means my grandfather has since passed on, or maybe my brother is just no longer as sensitive. Either way, it was definitely creepy. Thanks for reading, Ghostess. See you on the other side, Kelsey.

• 33:56Speaker 02

  This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Football has a play for just about everything. You can go deep, keep it on the ground, or draw up something nobody sees coming. And whether you want to run a flea flicker or the tush push, you need a plan to fit your unique situation. That's why State Farm takes the time to get to know you, so they can help personalize coverage for your life and budget. Now that's a solid game plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Football has a play for just about everything. You can go deep, keep it on the ground, or draw up something nobody sees coming. And whether you want to run a flea flicker or the tush push, you need a plan to fit your unique situation. That's why State Farm takes the time to get to know you, so they can help personalize coverage for your life and budget. Now that's a solid game plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

• 34:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow, that's beautiful.

• 34:56Corinne Vien?

  It is, waving his amputated leg.

• 34:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right, and like, how would your brother ever have known that that was something he did?

• 35:03Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 35:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You know, like, it absolutely is your grandfather.

• 35:07Corinne Vien?

  And I think it also just goes to show... How sweet this grandfather was and how just like kind and silly he was because for a child to see someone random in their house that they're not expecting and someone with a leg that detaches, like a young kid might find that experience spooky. But instead, it was super enjoyable. It was entertaining. It was a silly goose moment.

• 35:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I feel like just the simple fact that her grandfather knew it was going to be a boy. I think that there was this connection between the two of them before he even passed away.

• 35:42Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, they themselves are little traveling souls.

• 35:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So sweet.

• 35:45Corinne Vien?

  Little duo.

• 35:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I am going to read a story from our listener Melissa. And it is called, "The Haunting That Has Followed Me My Whole Life. They Actually Told Me To Write In."

• 35:58Corinne Vien?

  Why am I scared?

• 36:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Pictures included. Hello, madams of the macabre.

• 36:03Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, I like this.

• 36:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anyone can call us that.

• 36:06Corinne Vien?

  That's for all.

• 36:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I adore the podcast. You're doing so much good in the world for us that have had experiences and deal with the nonbelievers.

• 36:15Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 36:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We need a support group. This is the support group.

• 36:17Corinne Vien?

  This is the support group for those who aren't believed.

• 36:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'll go right in. I came from a long line of mystics and people who I'll say the veil was thin for. My nana was my primary caregiver when I was younger and she told me constantly of ghost stories. And her house was creepy AF. So many stories that I'll have to send another email. But her mom, my great grandmother, was a fortune teller in our small town. My mom always knew before anyone else when someone died in the family. And my nana and my mom were obsessed with ancestry before it was easy like today. And they spent a lot of time in graveyards.

• 36:53Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 36:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They were always very stern to teach me to never open myself up to the other side because it opens up everything. And sometimes they don't leave. So in my preteens and in my teenagehood, I never did anything that might bring something on me. I did sneak out for parties, but nothing ever supernatural. Yet, when I graduated, like most teenagers, I wanted my own life. And a friend of mine had an aunt in Paulies Island, and she was moving there after graduation, so I went with her. Paulies Island is the most documented haunted beach on the East Coast. P-A-W-L-E-Y-S. I've never heard of it.

• 37:27Corinne Vien?

  I'm adding it to the list.

• 37:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Paulies Island in South Carolina.

• 37:31Corinne Vien?

  Paulies Island. Okay, I claimed it.

• 37:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stay tuned. So I fit right in, in this town. Little did I know, my friend had an obsession with calling on the supernatural. So for reasons that aren't mine to say, she needed to see something to prove she wasn't crazy. So the first week, we were on Paulies Island. There she was, constantly researching the most active haunted places on the beach. And that is how we found Alice. As I write this, I'm getting skin chills. Alice was from a long line of the founding family in Paulies Island, but she fell in love with a logger. They were engaged in secret, and she wore the ring on a necklace hidden underneath her dresses. As legend goes, her father found out and had the logger killed. And he tossed the necklace into the marsh. Not long after, Alice died from heartbreak.

• 38:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Legend goes, if you put a ring on her grave, walk in three circles, she will come to visit you at some point.

• 38:27Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I like that.

• 38:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So naturally, us being the dumb teenagers we were, decided to wait until the next Friday, the 13th, and go to her grave at midnight. One smart thing we did do is we went during the day first to get a lay of the land, since we would have had to hop the fence and trespass later. But her grave is just our large slab on the ground, right under a weeping willow and one lamppost. All it says is Alice. It is a rather large historic graveyard, and the morning we went, while we were looking at her grave... Grave, there were two historians that worked there and came up to us. They started explaining the history of Alice and her grave, which we already knew. But then they look at me and said that I had an uncanny resemblance to Alice.

• 39:07Corinne Vien?

  What in the haunted mansion?

• 39:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  After that, I was ready to leave. That night, we got dressed in our good fence hopping outfits and did black football paint on our faces. I'm not sure why, but that's what we did. My friend's younger sister and her friend were coming with us, so it's all four of us. And at the time, my friend drove an Eclipse convertible. The graveyard itself is on one side of the road while the parking area is on the other side at the church, All Saints Church. So we parked facing some large mosaic windows, crossed the street and hopped the fence. We all had headlights and flashlights. My friend proceeds to put the ring on Alice's grave and walk three circles. She says, "If you're here, give us a sign." The second she finished the sentence, that lamp post above her grave went out.

• 39:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We all ran. I have never hopped a fence so fast in my life. We left the top down in the car, all jumped in, and as soon as my friend turned on the headlights, all of us saw a woman on the other side of the church mosaic windows staring at us.

• 40:06Corinne Vien?

  No way. Oh, my gosh. This is incredible because I feel like so many times legends like this and lore, like there's, you do the thing, but like nothing happens. You just spook yourself.

• 40:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 40:15Corinne Vien?

  This feels like there's actual truth to it.

• 40:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, Melissa was warned to never do this because she is so in tune. Opening yourself up. I froze. My friend flew out of the parking lot and her sister and friend were crying hysterically the entire way home. We got back to the condo and immediately tried calling our boyfriends at the time, but no texts or calls were going through. We spent a long time trying to get the younger girls to calm down and then we decided to go to bed. That's not even the weirdest part. The next morning, we all got up, ate breakfast, and I mentioned that I had a really terrifying dream. Before I described it, my friends described the exact same dream I had.

• 40:50Corinne Vien?

  What the fuck?

• 40:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Her sister and friend turned pale. They had the exact same one. All four of us had the same terrifying dream. In this dream, we were all running to the fence after that lamp cut out. And when we looked to our right, we saw Alice running next to us, staring into our souls.

• 41:08Corinne Vien?

  Ew, I hate that. She was running next to them?

• 41:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And staring at them.

• 41:14Corinne Vien?

  Because I'm picturing it as like, there's like no movement. It's just

• 41:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 41:19Corinne Vien?

  Complete stillness, but somehow moved. Oh, my God.

• 41:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 41:22Corinne Vien?

  So creepy.

• 41:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Needless to say, I moved back home very shortly after this and never wanted to hear of Polly's Island again. I wish I could say it ended there, but it didn't. So when I moved back, my boyfriend and I broke up about a month later. And I went to meet a new guy and on the way to his house, I wasn't paying much attention. We were playing putt putt and he mentioned the supernatural. So I told him the story of Alice and he went pale. He lived on Alice Drive. Second instance, I didn't mention this story for a long time because it really freaked me out and I would still occasionally have dreams of Alice. But I was working at Barnes and Noble around Halloween two years later. We were all sharing ghost stories and I told mine. Not even five minutes later, an old man walks up and buys a book about Polly's Island and the ghost stories.

• 42:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Guess who was on the cover of that book? Alice.

• 42:09Corinne Vien?

  She's truly haunting you.

• 42:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It freaked me and my coworkers out because I had just told them all this story. It's the third time and again, I really hadn't talked about this for a long time. But once again, it's around Halloween and I'm working for the airlines call center. I'm sitting with coworkers at lunch and they're sharing stories and ask if I have one. So I tell and I go back to work. My first call is from a woman named Alice. Fourth instance, I meet my now husband and eventually I tell him the story and he laughs and laughs and laughs. We were at a bar. Not even 10 minutes later, a woman buys our table a round of drinks. Guess what her name was? Alice.

• 42:45Corinne Vien?

  Are you supposed to figure something out for Alice? Like at this point, it feels like beyond just a weird haunting thing and following thing like there's, there feels like some connection between you and Alice.

• 42:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 42:56Corinne Vien?

  Past life, if she needs your help with something, if she's trying to warn, oh, what if this is like the buildup of being like, trust when I come through, it's me to warn her about something that's going to happen in the future. This is like the preconditioning.

• 43:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it's also like, it's interesting because, and I know Melissa said that she's had dreams of Alice over the years. But it feels like every time you talk about Alice and tell the story of how you encountered Alice, is when she's like, yeah, and I'm still here. So after this instance, my husband forbade me to talk about this because every time I talk about it, it always happens. Flash forward to 2020 and my mom passed away. Growing up, I had heard so many stories about her grandma that she adored, who's my great grandma. My great grandma and great grandpa had built the church that my mom is buried at and she's buried next to her grandmother. During the funeral service, the pastor mentioned. And them and my great grandmother's name. Guess what her name was? Alice.

• 43:52Corinne Vien?

  It's not that common of a name.

• 43:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 43:55Corinne Vien?

  I've never met an Alice.

• 43:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have, but you went by Ally.

• 43:59Corinne Vien?

  But still, like, that's one person.

• 44:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So my husband and I immediately looked at each other shook, but now I wonder if maybe it was my great grandmother Alice all along.

• 44:07Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 44:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And she's saying hello and trying to tell me that it's her and not the Alice from Polly's Island. Now, recently I was debating on sending this in and I was listening to an episode and thought, no, they'll never read it. Surprise, the next story you read right after I had that thought was from someone named Alice.

• 44:27Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God, that one gave me chills.

• 44:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And last night I had a dream for the first time in a long time. And in this dream, it said that I should send it. So here we are, I've attached pictures and at this point, I don't really see her as a haunting, but as a far away friend. Y'all are my favorite ghost girlies. I thought I was crazy for a long time until your podcast. I hope Alice tells you all to read this story. Xoxo Melissa. And so we have photos of Alice's grave at Polly's Island, which has like a lot of

• 44:56Corinne Vien?

  Oh, there's a lot of trinkets.

• 44:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Her grave. This is a photo of Alice. And then a photo of Melissa with her football paint the night that they went to the cemetery.

• 45:09Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God. Yeah, it's hard because it's like, I don't know, your grandmother wasn't coming through with Alice things before this, right? Or at least maybe you just weren't connecting how many times you were exposed to the name Alice.

• 45:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or Melissa had spent so much of her life never opening herself up because of everything that her family had told her. And then the second she opened herself up, maybe her great grandmother, whose name happened to be Alice, was like, finally.

• 45:37Corinne Vien?

  It's so strange. I know you don't, it seems like you don't have interest in going back to Polly's Island, but I do have questions as to what would happen if you did.

• 45:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 45:46Corinne Vien?

  I'm curious. Okay, I have an email called Past Relatives Not So Past. Hello, lovely ladies.

• 45:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love this episode, by the way.

• 45:54Corinne Vien?

  It's such a good one.

• 45:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I'm sorry for fighting with you earlier.

• 45:58Corinne Vien?

  I accept your apology.

• 45:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, great.

• 46:00Corinne Vien?

  We're fine. If you didn't apologize for it. It was a fake fight, was it?

• 46:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 46:06Corinne Vien?

  Of course.

• 46:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I've never like actually fought with you.

• 46:10Corinne Vien?

  Hello lovely ladies. It's been a while since I've actually sent an email in and I figured, hey, it's late at night. I can't sleep. All my terrifying childhood memories are flooding in. Let's just send an email.

• 46:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Love it.

• 46:21Corinne Vien?

  I have drafts of tons of stories, but I've yet to finish them out and send them in. But this is one of the many that I have from my many childhood homes. The fun thing is I still have access to this house and I lived in it for two months this year.

• 46:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh.

• 46:35Corinne Vien?

  In my very haunted childhood home that hasn't changed since I was a kid. It was horrifying. Laying in that room, knowing exactly what I will see, knowing it wasn't just my child mind making things up. For context, this house was one of four houses in a small cul-de-sac down a dirt road in the middle of a small town up in the mountains.

• 46:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 46:53Corinne Vien?

  So these four houses have been in my family for years. Great grandparents, Tias, T O's, everyone's lived in these houses. My grandparents inherited these houses and all my aunts and uncles then inherited them as well, along with my parents. And we were raised in these houses for a few years in my childhood. Along with that also comes my older family members having passed in these houses. So of course they're a little haunted. This means that my family has had tons of ghost stories about seeing their relatives in the houses, walking around the land even. And these are all people who have passed on. On one special account, my very religious grandmother has seen a UFO in this area too. I'm still working on getting that story for you gals, so expect that story sometime in

• 47:38Corinne Vien?

  the near future.

• 47:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, please.

• 47:39Corinne Vien?

  But on to my story. This little house that I grew up in was a single wide trailer with an addition on it that made it a double wide. My Tia Ramona lived in the house across from ours and my other Tia lived to the far right of our house in her own trailer.

• 47:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love that this is like a little family compound.

• 47:55Corinne Vien?

  It is, yeah. And then there was my great grandmother's house in the center of our three houses. No one lived in that house since she had passed. So basically it's two old ladies, my parents and me and my older brother around. My dad at the time was working a job that required him to travel to the city and thus left my mother to take care of us by herself. This also meant that she was alone in the house at night. Well, as alone as you can be with two tiny, defenseless children. She would often call her sister to come stay with her so that she wouldn't have to be by herself in this house because it was scary, especially at night. On this particular night, my aunt had come over to keep my mom company, which meant that they would hide in my mom's room until my dad came back in the morning.

• 48:38Corinne Vien?

  They kept the TV and the light on, closed the two doors that led to the room because of the odd feeling that crept through the house at night. It was like you weren't really alone and it felt like around every corner, there was someone standing there watching you. Me and my brother were asleep in my mom's bed and my mom and aunt were watching TV when they heard someone in the kitchen. My mom and aunt looked at each other and lowered the TV to see if what they were hearing was real. She says that she heard the cabinets opening and closing, dishes being moved around, and they could have sworn someone was in the house. Their first thought was, oh shit, we're being robbed. But the fact that the sounds were only in the kitchen was also odd. My mom says that her and my aunt were so terrified to the point that they turned the volume up on the TV just to try to ignore it because they knew that there actually was no one there.

• 49:23Corinne Vien?

  And so if they couldn't hear it, it wasn't happening, right?

• 49:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's also, I feel like, so close to them.

• 49:29Corinne Vien?

  I know. At least they have the kids with them too. So you really are just trying to like quarantine yourself away. In my head, this is terrible logic, but oh, well. Apparently this went on all night and the second the sun came up, it just stopped. My mom went out in the morning to see if anything had been moved and noticed nothing looked off or weird. No cabinets were opened, nothing. My dad got home and of course, they told him what happened. My dad is a jokester, so I bet he told them something like, ooh, it was a ghost. Not knowing that that absolutely is what it was.

• 50:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I do, it does feel like that's what they thought it was. They didn't think it was a real person because then they would have been like, we need to get out of here.

• 50:09Corinne Vien?

  Right, because what robber stays just in the kitchen, opening and closing cabinets for hours?

• 50:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Making a ruckus.

• 50:16Corinne Vien?

  Another story in this house was about little old me. My mom says that one day she was doing her thing in the kitchen, making lunch, zoning out, when I ran towards her in the kitchen. I looked frightened and a little scared and she asked me what was wrong. I told her, I don't want to play in my room anymore because there's a man in my window. Funny thing is, my room didn't have any windows. My poor confused mother asked me, what window? So I grabbed her hand, led her into my room, and I pointed at the vanity that I had. It was this old, tall wooden vanity with a big oval mirror in it.

• 50:49Corinne Vien?

  And that is what I started to call the window. I explained to her that the man was watching me play with my toys and wouldn't go away and he was scaring me. So my terrified mother throws a blanket over it, moves it to the corner of my room that I don't really play in. And to this day, that vanity sits in that room. I have yet to ever look in it again, but man, oh, man, do I kind of want to.

• 51:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I kind of want you to too, or just send us a picture of it.

• 51:15Corinne Vien?

  Funny thing about this story is when I described the man to my mom, it was the exact description of my great grandpa who died before I was born.

• 51:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, you see, that's not scary.

• 51:24Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 51:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, it is, but it's not.

• 51:26Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it is. She likes to think that he was just checking in on me, seeing and meeting me in the only way that he knew how to.

• 51:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 51:33Corinne Vien?

  This last story I'll tell is one of my favorites. It was a very, very snowy winter. The big snowstorm had moved in and basically trapped us all in our house. Being up in the mountains, this kind of weather was pretty normal. And on this night, we'd all gone to bed and my mom said that she woke up and heard someone walking through the house. She then wakes my dad up and they listen. Thump, thump, thump, thump, the sound of heavy boots moving through the house. My dad gets out of bed, ready to kick some ass. And to his surprise, the house is empty. They both know that they heard someone walking from the kitchen to the back room of the house, but the doors and the windows are locked.

• 52:11Corinne Vien?

  And all of a sudden they hear the walking again, only to realize that the sound is actually coming from the roof of the house. It sounds like someone with heavy, heavy boots is walking along the roof. This couldn't be because one, there's a crazy big snowstorm that had moved in. So who's making their way into a rural house in the boonies in the first place in a snowstorm? And two, even if there was someone on the house, how the hell did they get up there and why were they up there? So my dad calls their friend who's a cop to come out and check and see if anyone's there. When he gets to the house, he notices there are no car tracks, no boot tracks to the house. The snow is freshly fallen and clean. Nothing looks weird until he gets to the roof.

• 52:53Corinne Vien?

  He said that he found giant boot tracks in the middle of the house, walking from one end to the other. They were also spaced

• 53:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  On the roof.

• 53:02Corinne Vien?

  Really far apart, like not normal distance apart. They followed the boot tracks out into the middle of a field behind the house. And then they just stop as if the person has just disappeared. This, of course, is crazy weird. They were really scared. They were very confused and that was that. I'm pretty sure it did happen more than once and my parents just decided to ignore it and let this thing do its thing walking around the roof.

• 53:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, what can you do?

• 53:30Corinne Vien?

  I know. As always, love the podcast. Thank you for reading. Stay spooky. I'll see you on the other side, Rosie.

• 53:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm like trying to figure out what relative this could be because there are a lot of deaths, like family deaths.

• 53:42Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 53:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But you're also in the middle of the woods, which makes me think of like Appalachia and what type of cryptids or entities? I mean,

• 53:49Corinne Vien?

  Cause they're not like normal human distance apart. Cause the first I was thinking of, remember we read that story a few months ago or like sometime within the past year where someone was thinking it was this really terrifying experience. And then they found out it was like turkeys that were just like flying between the roof.

• 54:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 54:05Corinne Vien?

  And at first I was like, oh, it's a turkey, but it's a snowstorm.

• 54:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And there are footprints.

• 54:08Corinne Vien?

  Huge boot footprints and a cop is identifying them.

• 54:13Corinne Vien?

  And they're in the middle of the woods too, right? Like if they saw something, they'd be like, oh, there's just weird markings. There might've been an animal up here. It was boot prints and like the fact that it goes all the way out to a field and then just

• 54:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Gone. I have no answer.

• 54:27Corinne Vien?

  Very spooky. You guys have inherited some weird things, some hauntings, some portals.

• 54:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we're really grateful that you're sharing them with us and passing them on to us. So keep doing that. Please email us all of your paranormal encounters to [email protected]. And you can also share them with us live. We have campfire stories that's on Patreon. We have it every week. You can come on the Zoom stage and share your ghost stories with us and the rest of the community. It's so much fun. We also have so many other things on Patreon, like episodes coming out one week early and ad free plus bonus episodes every month. And lots of fun stuff, book club, all that.

• 55:05Corinne Vien?

  Shout out to Jamie Ryan, who edits and produces our podcast. Thank you, Jamie.

• 55:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And thanks to all of you.

• 55:10Corinne Vien?

  We love you and we will.

• 55:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See you in the freezer.

• 55:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm sorry, I'll do the real one. Okay.

• 55:19Corinne Vien?

  See you.

• 55:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The other side.

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