Encounters x285 - Poltergeist Stories

This Encounters episode is full of chaos, comedy, and spirits that throw more than just shade. We’re diving into your wildest poltergeist stories. There’s an auntie ghost who stops a murder, a stuffed tiger flying across the room, and one listener who might just be psychic without even knowing it. Whether they’re throwing bricks, flicking lights, or slapping bald spots, these ghosts have personalities. Stories include: A listener’s mom hears daily phantom stomping overhead — even when no one is home. A friend sees a listener’s pale, ghost-like face smiling at them… while the real person is asleep. An accessory loving spirit steals a headband for days before it reappears in a curious location. A protective poltergeist throws a tantrum — just in time to stop a murderer. A smoky black hand grabs a teen’s pant leg in a truly terrifying basement encounter. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello.

• 2:09Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Your hat is on, meaning we can podcast now.

• 2:12Corinne Vien?

  It's time. Bras off, hats on.

• 2:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love it. I'm not wearing a bra either. I never am.

• 2:17Corinne Vien?

  I feel like you rock it. I have new boobs, so I'm not sure I should be doing what I'm doing.

• 2:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have no boobs, so. They're small, itty bitties, mosquito bites. Uh, hi, what's our podcast name?

• 2:28Corinne Vien?

  Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 2:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi. Two Girls, One Ghost. And we are your guests, that is Corinne.

• 2:34Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or Corn, and I am Sabrina. And this is an Encounters episode, which we love. We read your stories that you email us. We read them back to you and we pick themes.

• 2:46Corinne Vien?

  But first, can we just pause? Because I feel like this blue, I was thinking about it the whole last episode. I was staring at you and I'm like, my god, you're so beautiful.

• 2:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my god.

• 2:55Corinne Vien?

  Like, the blue on you looks so good.

• 2:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank you.

• 2:58Corinne Vien?

  I know, compliments aren't easy to absorb.

• 3:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ew.

• 3:02Corinne Vien?

  Yuck.

• 3:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like, um, this blue and red are my colors.

• 3:06Corinne Vien?

  Your colors. Although I will say, I feel like when you wear your green sweater, this feels like I'm really hitting on you right now.

• 3:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do you love me?

• 3:13Corinne Vien?

  When you wear your green sweater. Oh, my god. Green also looks really good on you.

• 3:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My instinct is like, compliment Corinne instead.

• 3:26Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 3:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, thank you.

• 3:28Corinne Vien?

  We can move on. All right, would you like to read a story?

• 3:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, yes, but I have a, um, TV show recommendation.

• 3:33Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 3:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For you. And I can't take credit for it. And I was trying so hard to find who and where this was recommended to us. But I want to say it was on YouTube. Someone recommended this show called From.

• 3:48Corinne Vien?

  Wait, what?

• 3:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's From, F-R-O-M.

• 3:50Corinne Vien?

  Oh, Googling now.

• 3:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it is so good. It is very scary. Yeah.

• 3:59Corinne Vien?

  I like sugar just looking at.

• 4:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it is a combination of like all of our favorite things like glitches in the matrix, mimicry entities like in the woods. And this concept is basically there's this like town that exists, but you get there by like slipping into a different weird dimension. And you can't get out. So like this car basically you're driving this opens like there's an RV with the family. And they're driving and then all of a sudden they like can't get their way back to the highway and they find themselves in this tiny little town. And they're like, which way to the highway? And they keep driving straight, but they keep ending up going in circles in this town. I watched the first three episodes and then I had to turn it off. And I'm like usually high tolerance to scary things, but I couldn't fall asleep to this because I was.

• 4:45Corinne Vien?

  Really?

• 4:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was like, this is gonna be too scary to go to bed to.

• 4:47Corinne Vien?

  The series is set in a nightmarish town in the US that traps those who enter. The unwilling residents try to remain alive while plagued by terrifying nocturnal creatures from the surrounding forest. As they search for secrets hidden within the town and beyond the hope of finding a way out.

• 5:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, like literally you have to be back in your house, windows covered, doors locked. Like the windows are nailed in before sun goes down because when the sun goes down, there are these entities that are kind of like SW's slash pedestrians. And a lot of the different types of cryptids and creatures we talk about on this podcast, where they mimic and show up as other people. They know your name. They try to get inside your house. They can only come in if you invite them in.

• 5:28Corinne Vien?

  Have you looked at the show posters?

• 5:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, they're very creepy.

• 5:30Corinne Vien?

  They're very creepy.

• 5:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 5:32Corinne Vien?

  Wow, okay.

• 5:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 5:33Corinne Vien?

  Great.

• 5:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Great.

• 5:35Corinne Vien?

  Great, I want to watch.

• 5:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Great, great. But today's topic is poltergeists. Noisy ghosts.

• 5:43Corinne Vien?

  Pesky little demons.

• 5:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That might be throwing things at you. Knives, books.

• 5:48Corinne Vien?

  Love.

• 5:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stuffed animals. Oh, love.

• 5:52Corinne Vien?

  Rarely love, but it's an option.

• 5:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like these poltergeists that we're gonna read about aren't throwing love.

• 5:58Corinne Vien?

  No, they're not.

• 5:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, but we're throwing love to you by reading these ghost stories to you. And you're throwing love to us by emailing us your ghost stories. Okay. This is from our listener Peyton and it is called, "Did I Create A Poltergeist Haunting My Dad?" Hello, girls. My name is Peyton and I have some crazy short stories to tell you about that happened in my childhood home. When I was a toddler, my parents had a cat named Leo and I loved that cat. But after he died, my parents said that I would play with his ghost in the basement, which was his favorite spot. I have lived in every room in this house except for my parents' room and I am now living in the basement. One night, I put on YouTube to go to sleep and I was trying to sleep when I started to hear a faint noise. Thinking it was part of the YouTube video, I thought nothing of it, but it started getting louder and I realized it was a cat's meow.

• 6:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I sat up and paused the video and the meowing stopped. I then went on my phone, looking up what kind of stuff on the internet about a demon cat, because what does this thing want from me? And it started again and got loud, very fast. But the only thing was, it sounded like it was right next to me.

• 7:00Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 7:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Couldn't have been outside. Sounded like it was in the air next to my ear. I freaked out and firmly said, "Please stop." And it did. I never heard it again. So maybe it was Leo, but I don't know. I didn't like it and it was odd. My next story happened when I was in middle school. I woke up in the middle of the night, sat up in bed and saw a figure of a man standing in the doorway of my room. I wasn't scared and was honestly too tired to process, so I just laid back down and went back to sleep. I don't understand that because I've always been scared of the paranormal, so for me to go back to sleep like nothing was wrong was odd. This man looked like he was wearing a black top hat and I did research because it didn't feel negative, but I found stories of a man, Hat Man, standing in doorways watching people who have specifically gone through trauma, checking to see how they are.

• 7:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's an interesting take on it.

• 7:47Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 7:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which sounds really comforting. I did see that man a few more times and those times, because I was able to comprehend what was happening, I got scared. The last time I saw him, I told him to go away and to my knowledge, I never saw him again. Whoever it was, I like to think he was there protecting me. But now, on to some more creepy stories. Within the past few years, more and more paranormal activity has been happening in the house. I attribute it to many things. Content warning for abuse. My father is abusive, so there's a lot of negative energy in the space. He also watches a lot of paranormal stuff on YouTube, even when he's sleeping. So I feel like that has opened him up a lot more as well. I gave my dad a handmade little wooden figure that has a windmill and a man fishing beside it. I bought it for my dad because when we were at an antique shop, he saw it and said he liked it.

• 8:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A few times, my dad said that he has seen the windmill start spinning. It's old and this thing hasn't really been fixed up, so it takes a lot of force to make the windmill move. He claims that there was no wind, and for some reason, I believe him. One day, my dad was in the backyard and bent over to pick something up, and a brick that was on top of our pool deck fell on top of his head. There have also been times where my dad was in the backyard and that sliding glass door to our house would just open and close. Again, this door is pretty heavy, so heavy that my dogs, who love going in and out of the house, can't even push it open with their noses when they try. A few times, my father has also heard children talking. I don't remember what she said the first time, but the second time, he was in the kitchen and heard a girl say, "What's up, dough?", which is something popular from a long time ago.

• 9:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He has also had someone grab his foot when laying in bed, something slap the top of his head, which I think is pretty funny. He has this giant bald spot, and I think it's probably because the spirit likes to slap his head so much.

• 9:31Corinne Vien?

  A bald spot created by ghosts.

• 9:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To be lore. You know, when they say like, "Oh, you have a large indent here", it's like the angel touching your, I forget what this part is called, but like the angel.

• 9:43Corinne Vien?

  Is that your frenulum?

• 9:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Pressing, yeah, angel's fingerprint. Bald spots are now, ghosts touch your head so much.

• 9:51Corinne Vien?

  Just like a genie rubbing its belly.

• 9:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, that's so funny. Head slaps from the ghosts.

• 9:56Corinne Vien?

  I love it.

• 9:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Got a lot of slaps. Peyton says, "I'm really good at protecting my space and energy, so I think that my guides and the energy around me knows not to mess with me. Although a few times, a lamp in the living room has turned on randomly with me right next to it, but it doesn't seem negative, more like it just wants attention." I feel like that's your spirit guides being like, "Hey, we have to tell you something. We're trying not to scare you, but here's a light, a light bulb moment."

• 10:19Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 10:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I've also been in my basement, looking at my phone, when things have fallen off the shelves in front of me. There was one time I was getting ready in the bathroom in the basement, when I heard my dog walk down the stairs, thinking nothing of it. After a few minutes, I went out of the bathroom to go pet him, but he wasn't there. He was actually upstairs, sleeping. Creepy. And this last story happened to me and it was a little freaky. So being in the basement means that I hear people when they're walking upstairs, especially my dad, because he has a little like anchor to his step. It was late at night and I hear what sounds like my dad frantically stomping from his bedroom to the bathroom to a closet. I got a little scared. And after a few minutes, I go to talk to my mom in the living room, asking if everything's okay. She said, everything's fine. I asked if dad had gotten up and he hadn't. That also has happened a couple more times. It's very confusing every time.

• 11:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like the house just remembers.

• 11:06Corinne Vien?

  That's what I was gonna say, like a residual energy, like replaying the moments that her dad has been.

• 11:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love you both and started listening recently after seeing you guys with Jerry and Cece. I am so excited about the baby and you will be and are already an amazing mom and amazing aunt, Peyton.

• 11:23Corinne Vien?

  Dang, that's a lot of activity.

• 11:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, I'm questioning more if just your family is very open. And then if the spirits of the house are picking up on some toxic behavior that your dad is exhibiting. I mean, if I'm a ghost, I'd be slapping his head too.

• 11:38Corinne Vien?

  Right. I do like that we have two new things from this email. One, bald people have just been slapped by ghosts a lot.

• 11:47Corinne Vien?

  And two, the idea that Hat Man or like certain hauntings happen for spirits to check in on those who have experienced trauma.

• 11:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 11:55Corinne Vien?

  That's actually really nice. We've never heard that spin.

• 11:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I like that.

• 11:58Corinne Vien?

  I hope your ghost cats are actual cats and not demons, though.

• 12:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think it's a ghost cat.

• 12:02Corinne Vien?

  Are our cats demons?

• 12:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kind of.

• 12:04Corinne Vien?

  Are they one in the same?

• 12:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, if you, do you remember Camilla's story? Where her cat is literally a demon that looks like one of the 72 demons of Solomon? Yeah. But I do feel like, especially with the familial haunting that is commonly said with Hat Man, it does make me think specifically about familial trauma and unresolved or unhealed familial trauma.

• 12:28Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 12:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like, I'm watching you because you're now dealing with this.

• 12:33Corinne Vien?

  It does make more sense too, because it's, I feel like it was like four years ago at this point that we read an email from someone who said that they saw the Hat Man like walking up the steps and into the house of someone else. And like the Hat Man saw her watching him. I was just like. Moving on, but like if it was looking for someone to haunt and to scare, seeing

• 12:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 12:56Corinne Vien?

  that recognition, it should have diverted its energy that way. But it was like, no, I have a task to do. I'm going in this specific home. A ghost job.

• 13:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. What if we have to work in the afterlife? I'm down for it because we've spent so much time talking about the paranormal in our, for our real jobs, like life jobs, that it would be so cool to be the paranormal that people are pontificating and theorizing about in the afterlife.

• 13:18Corinne Vien?

  But like, do you have to have a ghost job or could you take any job? Could I just like work in a greenhouse for like two days a week?

• 13:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's not a ghost job, though. That's like a human job.

• 13:26Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, but I'm gonna do it as a ghost.

• 13:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 13:28Corinne Vien?

  I'm gonna haunt the plants. I'm gonna whisper sweet nothings and so they do really well.

• 13:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 13:32Corinne Vien?

  Because they're constantly getting words of affirmation from the paranormal realm.

• 13:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would like to be a grim reaper or a hat man, or I would like to work for Pesta.

• 13:45Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. You want to work for Pesta?

• 13:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 13:48Corinne Vien?

  I now I kind of want to be the ghost in like the middle school bathroom that like doesn't actually do anything, but just like you make one tiny little noise and everyone starts screaming and giggling and running out. Just to see the joy.

• 14:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Imagine all the drama too, that you know.

• 14:04Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God, I know.

• 14:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, the people playing Bloody Mary, you scare them.

• 14:07Corinne Vien?

  But it's like I get to also instill some fear and create creepy kids. Like we were those people.

• 14:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 14:13Corinne Vien?

  So I get to, I get to see the early versions of us.

• 14:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then you can also be a helping hand to those who are bullied in middle school.

• 14:20Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 14:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And cry in the bathroom.

• 14:22Corinne Vien?

  Right. I protect them.

• 14:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then they go around, tell everyone that they're talking to a ghost in the bathroom and they get bullied.

• 14:29Corinne Vien?

  And then.

• 14:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You go bully the bullies.

• 14:32Corinne Vien?

  And then I go collect the bullies and I scream at them in the bathroom until they cry.

• 14:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And lock them in there.

• 14:37Corinne Vien?

  And then they're upset, so then I have to help them. And it's just like a full circle of traumatizing and

• 14:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Healing.

• 14:43Corinne Vien?

  It's an abusive relationship. Wow.

• 14:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And that's how quickly it happens.

• 14:49Corinne Vien?

  Break the cycle. Get Hat Man to come help. Okay, I have an email called "My Haunted House: A Demon Hand, Poltergeist, Psychic Moments, Glitches in the Matrix, and More." Okay, lots of things. Hello, ghostesses. My name is MJ, and I've been a listener for a couple of years now, and I'm just getting around to sitting down and sharing my ghost stories. So buckle up, there's a lot of spookiness, and this is gonna be a long email. Sometimes I do, like, really wish there was, like, a buckle in here. Yeah. It would make me feel very secure. I wish we were amazing at animating, so we could just, like, Quickly add in. Like, like, the cartoon, like. Yeah, I'm picturing it. We have good imaginations, and we hope you all do too, because that's the only way you're gonna see what we just pictured. Zero execution, otherwise. But this is a podcast.

• 15:35Corinne Vien?

  I guess now people call them shows. But originally, it was a podcast, it was audio-only. So you're expected to use your audio-only imagination, still. Imagination.

• 15:48Corinne Vien?

  The first time I ever experienced anything paranormal that I can remember was when I was about nine years old. I was at my best friend's house, attending a Christmas party with my Girl Scout troop. And we were playing hide-and-seek in the house. The kind of hide-and-seek where, when you're found, you become the seeker. And because it's December, it was pitch black outside by 5:00 PM, and we had dimmed the lights, so it made the whole house a lot easier to hide in. I hid, but I was eventually found by my friend, we'll call her Jenna. So then Jenna and I continued to search the house, looking for the other girls. I was walking down the dark upstairs hallway with Jenna a few feet behind me, and to my left were double French doors that opened into an office that was set up from the hallway. That's like, just like our office. I was just thinking that.

• 16:30Corinne Vien?

  On the far wall were huge windows that backlit the room because of the moonlight. When I opened the door, I saw a small figure crouching under the desk. Ugh. In the part that was carved out for the chair. So I immediately smiled and said, "Found you." Oh, no. I looked away from the figure for a split second to switch the light on, and when I switched it on and looked back at the desk, no one was there. Jenna came running into the room excitedly and asked, "Who did you find?" Confused, I didn't respond, and I walked further into the office. I searched high and low in the small room, but I found nobody. Not even a sign that anyone had been hiding there at any point. So I turned to Jenna, I explained what I had just seen. And we both freaked out and then ran downstairs.

• 17:14Corinne Vien?

  We told the other girls, "And maybe I put a damper on the Christmas party."

• 17:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey, I wouldn't want to suffer and experience that by myself.

• 17:22Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 17:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 17:23Corinne Vien?

  That reminds me of when I did hide and seek with my brother. And I ran down to the basement because I was like, there's no way Christian's going to come to the basement. And I was literally at the bottom of the stairs because I was also scared of the basement. But I was like, I'll be right at the bottom of the stairs. And then when Christian said, Mom, can you help me go look in the basement? I turned to run into one of the rooms and underneath the foosball table was a little boy crouching.

• 17:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Crouching.

• 17:42Corinne Vien?

  And then he started to like crawl, run.

• 17:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which I think is so cute because it's like this ghost boy wanted to play with you.

• 17:48Corinne Vien?

  He was also playing.

• 17:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it is really scary.

• 17:51Corinne Vien?

  It's very scary.

• 17:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenewvo in a couple of weeks.

• 17:58Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 18:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I recently had some medical issues in my family and everyone in my family is like, let's just do everything we can to get ahead and take our own health into our own hands. Prenewvo's whole body scan is a radiation free MRI designed to help provide a detailed, non-invasive look at your body in under an hour. And it helps evaluate across major organs and systems, including the brain, spine, abdomen, pelvis, and more. Prenewvo's whole body scan can help detect many cancers, aneurysms, and hundreds of other conditions. And they have memberships that bundle MRI scans, blood panels, and a personalized results review to track your health year after year.

• 18:40Corinne Vien?

  To learn more about Prenewvo and get $300 off your whole body MRI, go to prenewvo.com/tgog and use code TGOG. That's P R E N U V O dot com slash T G O G. Terms and conditions apply.

• 18:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 19:41Corinne Vien?

  Flash forward five or six years, I was in early high school and never personally experienced anything weird and paranormal besides at that Christmas party.

• 19:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's, you definitely experienced something.

• 19:50Corinne Vien?

  You experienced more than what a lot of people experience. But that changed when I entered the period of my life where I started to become surrounded by hauntings. When I say a period of my life, I genuinely mean just a few months where all of these stories that I'm about to share happened.

• 20:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  How old was MJ at this point?

• 20:09Corinne Vien?

  High school.

• 20:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which is interesting because I think about, yeah.

• 20:13Corinne Vien?

  Bullying.

• 20:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I also just think about the amount of energy shifts and changes that you were going through in that time. And when we talked about the Conjuring and we did like our whole investigation of the Conjuring house, one of the theories was the poltergeists were contributed and associated with all the women going through puberty, which we've said many times, I wish every time I PMS, like I've made a bunch of ghosts like shit happen. But unfortunately I just get like migraines and all the other terrible PMS symptoms that are physical and I have to experience. But there is a lot of commonality where in that age of life.

• 20:50Corinne Vien?

  It is interesting too, because like in here, I would almost think that it would happen over a few years. It was just a few months.

• 20:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 20:58Corinne Vien?

  MJ writes, "It's also important to note that I've lived in the same house my entire life. I'm now 22. My parents still own this house and I'll get into the history of the house in a bit at the end, but I wanted to say upfront that I've never experienced anything paranormal in this house growing up and neither did any of my family members."

• 21:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Until this moment.

• 21:15Corinne Vien?

  "The hauntings started after Christmas." Why is it, what's up with you and Christmas?

• 21:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Merry Christmas.

• 21:22Corinne Vien?

  They're a bunch of ghost stories.

• 21:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's true.

• 21:24Corinne Vien?

  Okay, it does make sense.

• 21:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 21:26Corinne Vien?

  Sorry for almost bullying you.

• 21:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're stopping the cycle.

• 21:30Corinne Vien?

  End cycle now. The haunting started after Christmas and I believe my sophomore year of high school. It started out very mundane. I'd received a headband for Christmas that I became obsessed with. I wore it multiple days a week. I would take it off when I got in bed and put it on my nightstands just so that I could immediately put it back on when I woke up.

• 21:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 21:48Corinne Vien?

  And one morning I got up, but I could not find my headband anywhere. I thought it was very strange that I wouldn't have left it on my nightstand like I'd been consistently doing.

• 21:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 21:57Corinne Vien?

  So still, I thought maybe I just left it somewhere else by accident. So I searched my bathroom, I searched my living room, the car, the kitchen, the entire house, and it was nowhere. I was very sad about losing this item, so I told my mom to please keep an eye out for my headband.

• 22:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 22:10Corinne Vien?

  She assured me that it would turn up in the laundry or maybe in the couch cushion. And for a few days, we both kept looking out for it, but it never turned up. Weeks went by to the point-

• 22:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, so it was like, stop wearing that headband.

• 22:21Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Oh, my God, you're obsessed with this hat. Or it was like, I want a turn.

• 22:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, my turn.

• 22:25Corinne Vien?

  I want to wear this headband. It looks so good on you. Weeks went by to the point where I'd forgotten about it. And one day I was sitting in the room when I heard my mom say, "MJ, I found it." "You found what?" I called back. She walked into my room, holding my headband, and I immediately smiled when I saw it, but my smile faded when I registered the bizarre look on her face. "What is it? What's wrong?" I said. She hesitated. "Nothing. It's just strange." "What's strange?" "Your headband. I found it somewhere weird." Confused and annoyed, as I usually was at 13, I replied, "Mom, what are you talking about?" And she gestured for me to follow her down the hallway, two doors down from my bedroom, into our guest room. Now, our guest room was not some room we kept locked up and never used.

• 23:08Corinne Vien?

  At this time, our printer and our ironing board were both in there, the printer I used frequently for school, the ironing board my mom used almost every day. It was a small room, though, largely taken up by a queen-sized bed in the middle of the room, the printer and ironing board surrounding the two sides of the bed. We walked into the room and she pointed at the bed. "I found it right there," she said, as she touched the dead center of the bed. "And did you have siblings?"

• 23:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because I feel like this is something my sister would do, like take something of mine and then, and I would do for sure.

• 23:38Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well, she's about to answer this question. Yeah. This was bizarre, and as I said, my whole family enters this room a few times a day, multiple times a week. And at this point, each member of my family knew that this headband was missing. My mom knew especially, and she would iron in this room every single day, directly facing the bed. Now, this was very weird for both my mom and me, because this wasn't the last time that this would happen.

• 23:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 24:00Corinne Vien?

  I had similar experiences with necklaces and other personal items that I normally kept close to me, and I would keep track of, and they would disappear and reappear days and weeks later in bizarre places.

• 24:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So weird.

• 24:10Corinne Vien?

  Also, it was definitely not sibling antics.

• 24:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 24:13Corinne Vien?

  I only have an older brother who's five years older than me, so at this point, he was 20 years old and he was in college.

• 24:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so you have a ghost sister.

• 24:23Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, apparently.

• 24:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 24:25Corinne Vien?

  During this time, I started experiencing what I guess is best described as poltergeist activity. In my room, I had a dresser sitting under the window on the far side of the room. The right corner of the dresser was up against the corner of my wall where the closet door was, and this is important for later. And on that right corner of the dresser sat a jewelry stand. This stand was made entirely of metal wire and had two wired doors that would open and close. These were not hard to open, but they definitely weren't easy to open.

• 24:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 24:54Corinne Vien?

  You had to push it a little bit with some force to get them to open, and every day, at least once a day during this time, I would walk into my room, and to the right of the door where the jewelry stand was closest to the closet, it would be open. And this was weird because I truly never touched this thing and especially would never open the doors. I would walk up to it, close the door before going about my day. I would eventually leave, and the next time that I would go into my room, the same door would be open again. And this is a good time to add that the house experiences weren't particularly scary to me, just strange.

• 25:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, it's also interesting because it's specifically geared around accessories.

• 25:28Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 25:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is a spirit who likes to accessorize. Yeah.

• 25:32Corinne Vien?

  What? Nothing. Sorry. TJ Maxx commercial just started playing in my head and I was like, this ghost would have loved TJ Maxx. That's what I was thinking. I'm like, oh, too bad. A Maxonista? Yeah. I'm sad for your house ghosts that they don't get to shop at TJ Maxx. Well, you can shop for your spirit at TJ Maxx. Yeah, find them the accessories. Just buy two of everything so that they can have one. The door on the stand would be open on its own so many times that I started going, ugh, stop it. This is really annoying out loud whenever I would find it open again. I wasn't scared at this point. Honestly, I was just an annoyed teen waiting for whatever it was to cut it out. There was one day when I went to sleep knowing that I was gonna wake up to an empty household. My parents were running errands early. My brother was at

• 26:14Corinne Vien?

  college. So I woke up, per usual, and I went on my phone for a bit. And I couldn't have been up for more than 10 minutes when I started to hear noises downstairs. They weren't just vague house moving noises. They were my house noises. Like, you know how you know what it sounds like when your dad walks down the stairs or when your mom walks around the kitchen? Well, that is what I was hearing. I heard the sound of people walking around the entire first floor. I heard the chairs at my kitchen island being pulled out and scooched in. I heard the kitchen cabinets opening and closing, the fridge door opening and closing. It's like a full routine of life happening, right? It's the ghost trying to remember where they put your headphones. I frowned at these noises, confused, and I texted my parents. I thought you were

• 26:58Corinne Vien?

  running errands this morning. My mom replied, we are. We're at Costco. My blood immediately ran cold and my body froze. I'm alone in this house. I'm supposed to be alone, but the multitude of noises downstairs persisted. Freaking out, thinking we were getting robbed, I called my dad and I ran as quietly as I could to my door and I locked it. Dad, someone is in the house. I can hear them walking around doing things. My dad, in the most nonchalant dad way, says, "Honey, no one is there. You're just hearing things. Just walk down there and you'll see." Crazy advice, by the way.

• 27:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 27:33Corinne Vien?

  But what else was I supposed to do? So I stayed on the line with him and I made my way slowly down the hall, shaking. My room is on the farthest end of the hallway and the stairs to the first floor are on the complete other side. So while I'm walking down the hallway, I'm still hearing everything and the noises are loud. I tiptoed down the stairs as carefully as I can. I'm still shaking and the sound is still so loud. My stairs face my front door and you can either go left, circle around through the living room to the kitchen, or go right down the hallway back to the kitchen. So I reached the second to last step and I took a deep breath. I could still hear everything right around the corner, but as my foot touched the floor, it went quiet. Dead quiet.

• 28:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 28:17Corinne Vien?

  MJ, is everything okay? I hear my dad say on the other line, but I could not speak. I could not move. MJ? He said again, snapping me out of my trance. Um, yeah, I guess everything's fine. I barely squeaked this out as I rounded the corner to see my house completely empty, the kitchen totally undisturbed. "See? I told you," he replied before saying goodbye and hanging up. I was still in shock. Whenever I retell this story, it always ends by saying, "I genuinely wish my house was being broken into. I wish I came downstairs to see people," because coming down to silence and emptiness was way harder for me to move past. It was way scarier somehow.

• 28:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because then you start to question your own reality.

• 28:56Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. It's almost like a cruel thing where it's like the paranormal world gets you used to assuming that it's just them. Because like, what if you were in danger one time and you're like, oh, I'm used to this.

• 29:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 29:07Corinne Vien?

  Another weird thing that was happening to me is something that occurred repeatedly from middle school until now. My room is directly above my dining room. My mom spends most of her mornings in the dining room because that is where she sets up a puzzle and will drink her coffee. Oh, I can't wait for the day that I get to.

• 29:26Corinne Vien?

  Right now I have a sip of my coffee, run it back to the table behind the baby gate. And then like 20 minutes later, I get another sip of cold coffee.

• 29:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 29:36Corinne Vien?

  She spent most of her days there when she had a remote job and turned it into her office space. She would text me when I was in seventh grade, sitting in my room at my desk, doing my homework, saying, "Stop whatever you're doing. It's so loud." And she would tell me that she could hear pounding on my floor, like I was doing jumping jacks or a full-on aerobic routine. She would hear this to the point where nearly every day she would text me, but I was either asleep in bed, laying in bed on my phone, or doing homework at my desk. I was never even walking around during these moments.

• 30:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's what is so wild about this type of paranormal encounter. It's like your reality is so different than someone who's literally right above you. Like, how can MJ be-

• 30:14Corinne Vien?

  It reminds me of the Smurl possession, where it's like the, all of those family members in that duplex, and they're experiencing so many different things.

• 30:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  MJ's sleeping in there. If there was a spirit actually jumping up and down, wouldn't MJ have heard it?

• 30:25Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 30:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But only her mom, who's down below the room, is hearing it.

• 30:29Corinne Vien?

  It's very isolating.

• 30:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 30:30Corinne Vien?

  When this would happen, before this period of hauntings, we thought nothing of it genuinely. But then, everything else happening too, we couldn't help but connect the dots. The creepiest part is that when I left to eventually go to college, she would never, ever hear this when I was gone. But the second I came back home to visit, she would hear it the next morning when I was sleeping. And she would hear it every day that I was home.

• 30:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do really feel like you have this like pesky ghost sibling.

• 30:57Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. It's so weird.

• 30:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stealing all of your things and like being a menace and blaming it on-

• 31:03Corinne Vien?

  Blaming it on you.

• 31:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Seem like it's your fault. Yeah.

• 31:06Corinne Vien?

  When I would leave to go back to college, it would stop again. And this still happens to this day. However, up until this point, this was the worst of it. My mom and I felt like something was up in our house, but these experiences were nothing super crazy, outwardly negative, or cause for concern. But that all changed one morning. Oh, no. It was early on a school day. It was winter. I would wear sweatpants under my uniform dress. Love. I used to keep the toiletries like deodorant and lotion in a closet in the corner of my room that I previously described. So I was standing in front of that closet door, the one in front of the jewelry holder, putting on deodorant, meaning that I had both of my arms raised when I felt a strong, aggressive pull on the leg of my sweatpants.

• 31:48Corinne Vien?

  To describe it better, I felt the fabric of my baggy sweatpants pull tight on the inside of my leg. I froze for a second and then I glanced down to see a long, smoky, black hand holding the fabric of my sweatpants about five inches out from the outside of my leg. It wasn't totally see-through. The fingers were long and skinny and I could clearly see my sweatpants pulled taut. I can't remember how long I was looking at it, probably five seconds, but it really felt like an hour. And then the hand vanished. I watched my pant leg fall back into place. And this was so surreal that sometimes I try to convince myself that this never really happened. But unfortunately, it definitely did.

• 32:30Corinne Vien?

  I immediately went downstairs and I told my mom, and this was the first and only time that I was scared. Bad vibes this day. She reacted negatively as well and decided to reach out to a neighbor who we'll call Kathy. I babysat for Kathy's two younger children a lot and she was good friends with my mom. And I would call her Psychic Kathy because she most definitely was a psychic or medium of some sort. She's extremely intuitive, spiritual, and in touch with her energy and the energy of those around her. She also does Reiki. I'm sure it's, y'all would eat her up. Love it. Anyway, my mom texted her a pretty vague message about some weird stuff going on in the house and she wanted to talk to her about it ASAP. I had told my mom before the whole hand grabbing thing on my pants that I felt like whatever presence was in the house

• 33:13Corinne Vien?

  that was making itself known was either a little girl or an old man. And I was not really. Too very, oh my god. What did I just do? Where'd that come from? I don't know. Literally have the email up. Really? Yeah. Is it like a YouTube video or something? No, and my safari wasn't even open. So weird. That was like almost elevator music. Yeah, just gonna put that down. Whatever it was, I felt like it was playful in nature and I wasn't really scared of it. But once this hand thing happened, it did feel like maybe there was some darkness. Maybe there was something different.

• 33:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 33:44Corinne Vien?

  So I ended up having to babysit for psychic Kathy a few days after this. And when Kathy came home and I was done babysitting, I went to say goodbye and head home. But Kathy stopped and pulled me aside. She said that my mom had texted her that something weird was happening at the house and asked if I wanted to talk about it. Without any information from me or my mom, she immediately goes, it's all happening to you, isn't it? These experiences are happening to just you, no one else. I can tell it's surrounding just you.

• 34:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 34:09Corinne Vien?

  Stunned, I said, yes. And I proceeded to tell her a summary of everything that happened, what I just told you guys. I can't remember exactly what she said, but she told me to trust my gut. And if I didn't feel scared, don't be scared. It's probably not negative energy. But then out of the blue, without saying anything about what I felt the presence was, she said, no joke. I feel like this spirit is either a little girl or an old man. My jaw dropped.

• 34:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two very similar type of people.

• 34:35Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, extremely. I choked out, yeah, me too. And she then proceeded to tell me that I have this bright energy surrounding me that people and those on the other side are drawn to. And this makes me susceptible to being contacted by spirits and beings, whether I want it or not.

• 34:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like psychic Kathy was here to help you with your paranormal evolution and like psychic come to be moment.

• 35:00Corinne Vien?

  It's so weird. It's just weird to say like, it's either a little girl or an old man.

• 35:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And both of them had that same.

• 35:06Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 35:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Feeling.

• 35:07Corinne Vien?

  She said they can see me more than they can see other people, that this energy is a source that they can use. She also told me that I am, in a small, underdeveloped way, just like her. I have the potential to be more psychically empowered and I am in touch with the universe and the other side. She said, if I was ever interested in learning more and tapping into this side of myself, she would teach me how. Obsessed with her. I then thanked her and I asked her if she had any advice. Although I like the paranormal at this point, I wanted it to leave me alone if it was a negative spirit and wanted something from me. She gave me the mantra to say and told me saying it aloud or in my head was just fine. Here's the mantra. My energy is my own. It can only be used for what I want it to be used for.

• 35:52Corinne Vien?

  My energy is light and positive.

• 35:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I like that.

• 35:56Corinne Vien?

  I'd never heard of doing anything like this before in my life. I never heard of the ribbon technique or anything. And in my young head, I only knew of sage and exorcisms. So I voiced my skepticism and she told me that if I commit to saying this over and over with my whole mind and soul, it would work because it worked for her. But talking about my psychic abilities, although I don't really want to call them that because I genuinely have zero control over whatever the sixth sense is. So I'm not really sure what to call it, but I wanted to spit some experiences where it made itself known to me. Ever since I was a kid, I have been called an old soul by adults. And while you may think that phrase is a bit confusing for a child, for some reason, I always knew exactly what people meant. I felt it too.

• 36:38Corinne Vien?

  One example is I would always have these weird anticipation feelings. Like I'll open my phone and open a text conversation for my mom, my dad, my best friend, stare at it and think, wait, why am I opening this? What was I gonna text? And before I can even finish the thought, they text me.

• 36:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You know that they're thinking of you.

• 36:55Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 36:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 36:56Corinne Vien?

  It's like I knew that they were gonna text me. This will happen with phone calls too. And the bizarre thing is it will always happen when I'm picking out an outfit and I can't decide between the two. I'll be unable to pick one and I always, always see the other option I didn't pick when I'm out wearing my chosen fit. Like I'll see a girl in the bar wearing the exact other top that I didn't choose for that night. And for some reason, my immediately thought is, got it, I picked the right one.

• 37:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What?

• 37:24Corinne Vien?

  I will also see my angel numbers everywhere all the time, but that's pretty basic. Another thing that I experience is the feeling of knowing things before they happen or am told them. The craziest one was when we were eating dinner. My mom was talking about how she squared away an arrangement for our dog to stay with this couple to watch him while we went on vacation. The couple has dogs of their own, including one named Jackson, and they will watch multiple dogs at one time. This was the only time our dog Bailey really hangs out with other dogs. So when my mom mentioned the dog sitter, I immediately felt overcome with sadness and said, Bailey's gonna miss playing with Jackson. And I kept eating. My mom paused and replied, what do you mean? He's dead, right? Didn't Jackson have cancer or something and pass away? I replied, being very matter of fact.

• 38:09Corinne Vien?

  Mom, come on, you know this. No, he didn't. Really? I could have sworn you told me that. Nope, he's alive. Oh, well, my bad. I said, not phased and just thinking that I must have gotten confused. Until my mom got a text from the dog sitter the next day, saying Jackson had passed away from cancer that morning, about 12 hours after my mom and I had that conversation.

• 38:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's also so strange because it literally was fact in your mind.

• 38:34Corinne Vien?

  Whoa. Thank you for reading. Love you, girls, and this podcast. See you on the other side, MJ.

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• 39:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So yeah, MJ, you say you have like zero abilities, but you are for sure a psychic. Like when you turned 13, 14, your psychic abilities were being opened up and...

• 39:55Corinne Vien?

  And also to be like, oh, all the hauntings happened only over a couple of months. It's like, girl, you are the haunting now.

• 40:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you're haunted. Yes, like it all happened in that short amount of span or time because it all came pouring into you at that moment and probably felt overwhelming, but you've even said it's continued.

• 40:13Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 40:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow. I have one that I'm gonna read part of the subject line. A poltergeist saves the day. And it's from my listener Katie.

• 40:22Corinne Vien?

  Didn't I say poltergeists could provide love?

• 40:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They could. They could throw love at you. Hello Sabrina and Corinne, Mr. Piggy and Leia. And Leia.

• 40:30Corinne Vien?

  Piggy.

• 40:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Greetings to Sven. Before I get into my story, I do want to thank you for everything you both do. You bring me comfort and happiness. And I also love hearing the dynamic of your beautiful friendship and sisterhood. I mean, Corinne literally just like vomit, complimented me in the beginning of this episode. So you're welcome. Katie, that was all for you.

• 40:48Corinne Vien?

  How to make Sabrina uncomfortable.

• 40:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One on one.

• 40:51Corinne Vien?

  One on one. You look really beautiful in blue.

• 40:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Last episode, I taught you Wicca beginnings and you taught everyone how to make me uncomfortable.

• 41:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Content warning, there is brief mention of suicide in this story, but I have highlighted it in red. So you can't miss it. Okay, so on to the story. This is actually my dad's story, but I've heard it so often as a kid that it has stuck with me my entire life. And my dad would even drive us back to his childhood street so we can see the place that this occurred.

• 41:20Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 41:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This happened in the mid 1960s in Liverpool. Local lads, the Beatles had hit big time and my dad was still in primary school. His neighbor, who we'll call Tim, lived a few doors down on their red brick terraced street, typical of the working class neighborhoods of the city at the time. My dad and Tim were best friends and they're still close to each other today. They'd always walk, she went from school together three times a day in the morning for their lunch break and after school. My dad would always walk down from his house, number 27, and wait for Tim outside of Tim's house, number one. As anyone who was not in Tim's family, never ever went inside their small terraced house, apart from my badass granny, who would go every day to help them out with things after work.

• 42:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The house, Tim's house, number one, was haunted by Tim's great aunt, who had sadly taken her own life there three years earlier. But she was a mischievous poltergeist that liked to make a lot of noise and throw objects around the house. Tim even had a goofy, huge German shepherd dog that point blank refused to go upstairs due to the poltergeist activity and general presence of his aunt's spirit.

• 42:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The family always kept the front door wide open to, as for some reason, the ghosts didn't like when the door was closed and would violently open it every time it was shut. That just feels unsafe though, too. So one afternoon, on their way home after school, my dad and Tim noticed sirens and police cars surrounding their street, which wasn't uncommon per se, as sometimes the neighborhood could get a little dangerous. And there were also some religious tensions in the area at the time, and people got into fights frequently. But as they made it down the street, they saw a strange man in police custody being pulled out of Tim's front door, safety, in handcuffs. They ran to Tim's dad, who was standing with his arms crossed in his underpants. This is the story he told them.

• 43:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So Tim's dad worked night shifts and had come home to sleep while Tim and my dad were at school. And this poltergeist would not shut up. Tim's dad kept shouting at her to calm down so he'd get asleep, but the activity in his bedroom at the front of the house was like nothing he had ever experienced before.

• 43:25Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 43:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Lamps were being thrown over, drawers were being pulled from their chests, clothes flying everywhere, cutlery was clattering in the kitchen beneath him, and even the interior doors were swinging open and closed violently. This poor German shepherd was in distress at all the noise and turned howling downstairs. Chaos. Giving up on his bedroom, Tim's dad figured he would try Tim's bedroom to sleep because the noise and activity wasn't slowing down, but he thought maybe in Tim's bedroom it would be quiet. So he crossed into the hallway, into his son's room, goes to shut the curtains, and that's when he sees him. A guy in the alleyway behind their house, dressed in dark clothes and a hood, standing with a huge knife, waiting to mug whoever passed by him.

• 44:10Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god.

• 44:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Tim's dad darts out of the house, dodging flying objects as he runs out the door, all the way around the houses to sneak up on the guy from behind. Also, so brave. Which I'd like to point out that this guy, Tim's dad, is in his underwear, which also, as a kid, made me laugh so much. Tim's dad jumps on this guy, pins his arms and the weapon to his chest with his own arms, hurls him through his backyard. Before he can figure out what to do next, the back door of their home swung open by the Poltergeist and Tim's dad hurls this guy into the house with the agitated German Shepherd and the Poltergeist still going crazy. He locks-

• 44:43Corinne Vien?

  Can you imagine thinking you're the bad guy in the alleyway and some guy comes out in his underwear and throws you into a-

• 44:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Haunted house.

• 44:51Corinne Vien?

  Super haunted house where the Poltergeist is going nuts. The German Shepherd is the least of your worries? That is incredible.

• 44:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So he locks the criminal in the house, runs through a payphone and calls the police. Turns out, this guy was a wanted murderer-

• 45:05Corinne Vien?

  Ah.

• 45:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  -and had been involved in several violent muggings. He was arrested and sent to prison after his trial. We all believe the Poltergeist, Tim's aunt, was trying to warn Tim's dad because she knew the kids would be coming home soon from school and she wanted to protect them.

• 45:20Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god. Also, how big is Tim's dad? Cause this guy, I'm like thinking of him as like frickin' massive. Right? He's gotta be. Cause he just took down a murderer in his underwear, no problem.

• 45:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean-

• 45:34Corinne Vien?

  Dragged him inside. The aunt opens the door, "Bring him in here."

• 45:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Tag teaming it.

• 45:39Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 45:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Damn. After this experience, Tim's aunt, the Poltergeist, kept activity to a minimum. And Tim's dad was hailed as a hero in the local newspapers the next day, with no mention of the protective Poltergeist damn skeptics. A few years later, Tim's family decided to move out of the city. Family after family moved in and out of the house and never stayed because of the activity.

• 46:01Corinne Vien?

  What? I would feel so safe.

• 46:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Eventually, the council took the decision to demolish the house as it was quote-unquote "uninhabitable." And to this day, there is an empty lot right in the middle of the street and identical streets' terraced houses. The house numbers on that street now begin at number two. I've attached some photos so you can see how eerie it is. Lots of love from Manchester, England. Stay spooky and see you on the other side. Katie.

• 46:25Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 46:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We'll add these photos in the YouTube video.

• 46:29Corinne Vien?

  My god.

• 46:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wild.

• 46:31Corinne Vien?

  So wild. Also, I understand that's Poltergeist activity, but the fact that you know who it is and that she was helping save the kids and get a murderer off the streets, like, throw a lamp, I don't care.

• 46:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 46:43Corinne Vien?

  I'd feel pretty safe in there.

• 46:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, and that also just makes you realize that if there is maybe a weird shift in your paranormal activity and something's happening in a heightened way, maybe there's a message they're trying to get across.

• 46:56Corinne Vien?

  That would make me so scared. Every time things would pick up, I'd be like, who's outside?

• 47:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 47:00Corinne Vien?

  Who's outside? Okay, I have one to end us on. This is from Alicia. Hey, Ghoulies, my name's Alicia. I met you at The Cheesecake Factory in Richmond, Virginia, before your live show at the Funny Bone Comedy Club. I think Alicia was just like eating but wearing one of our shirts and I'm pretty sure when we went to the bathroom, we were like, we like your shirt. Wasn't that how it happened?

• 47:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't remember.

• 47:22Corinne Vien?

  I think I walked up and was like, nice shirt.

• 47:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We were also so excited to have Cheesecake Factory.

• 47:28Corinne Vien?

  I think we had.

• 47:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We had a ride, because we were driving.

• 47:30Corinne Vien?

  Rainforest Cafe and Cheesecake Factory and Domino's were like the hits.

• 47:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That was our staple. Yeah, that was our diet of tour.

• 47:37Corinne Vien?

  Felt like home.

• 47:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 47:38Corinne Vien?

  That was our taste of home. When I was 17, I had just gotten home from my date with my then-boyfriend, now-husband.

• 47:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You met at 17?

• 47:46Corinne Vien?

  I know, it was so cute. Well, maybe before then.

• 47:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, true.

• 47:49Corinne Vien?

  Teen romance.

• 47:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Damn.

• 47:51Corinne Vien?

  We had just sat down to talk to my mom and my gramps after a long day of being gone. And as we're sitting on a love seat with the wall blocking our view of the hallway, and my cat had just come out of my mom's room straight in front of us, walked past the fireplace, down the hallway to where my gramps and I's rooms were, her bedroom door had been left open as usual. As the cat got to the hallway, my cat, Tom, started meowing at the ceiling, which was a pretty normal occurrence. As the meowing had stopped, we saw him bolt past the fireplace towards my mom's room. Right behind him, a stuffed tiger flying through the air about five feet above the ground. As we see this stuffed tiger come out of the hallway and landing in front of the fireplace,

• 48:34Corinne Vien?

  we're all absolutely shocked. We're in disbelief. What did we just witness? Finally, my mom spoke up and said, what the hell just happened? As we started discussing the incident, chills ran through my body. After a while, we began to fall silent again. This occurrence has always shook me to my core for years. What happened? Was it a poldergeist? Just a very active spirit playing with the cat? Nothing like that has ever happened again, especially since we had moved out of that house a year later. And now this isn't the first instance that spooky things had happened there. I can remember so much from seeing a man standing above me while I slept to hearing a woman singing and humming from my closet.

• 49:14Corinne Vien?

  Also, I had friends stay the night one time and they swore that they saw my face looking ghostly white, staring back at them, smiling.

• 49:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What the heck?

• 49:24Corinne Vien?

  I'll never understand fully what happened in that house or what made those incidents happen, but they will stick with me forever. Thank you so much for having an amazing and safe way to share our stories. I love y'all. Alicia, P S. I got a tattoo of your tagline. So as always, see you on the other side.

• 49:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What? You did? Can we have a picture?

• 49:46Corinne Vien?

  Amazing.

• 49:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm gonna cry.

• 49:49Corinne Vien?

  That's so cool. You are crying. Serena's teary.

• 49:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's the best compliment in the world. Are you kidding?

• 49:56Corinne Vien?

  It just makes me feel like.

• 49:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Are you crying too?

• 50:01Corinne Vien?

  I'm choking it back.

• 50:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You got tears in your eyes.

• 50:03Corinne Vien?

  It makes me feel like so connected to everyone else, but it also makes me happy because it aside from it being our tagline, it just feels like it's a reminder of like, we're so connected to the other side and everyone and we're so much more than just ourselves.

• 50:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And there's so much more to life than what we're experiencing right now.

• 50:21Corinne Vien?

  It feels like just a good reminder as a whole.

• 50:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But also like, what is this flying stuffed tiger? And it also just like such a random one-off incident that is happening in front of everyone.

• 50:32Corinne Vien?

  I know. And I like that Alicia was like, was this just a ghost playing with my cat? Cause I wasn't thinking of it as like throwing the toy for the cat to play with. I was thinking of it as being like, you're annoying me and like trying to throw this stuffed. I was thinking like a bad ghost.

• 50:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I was thinking of it.

• 50:47Corinne Vien?

  Throw the stuffed animal with the cat.

• 50:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, it's a stuffed tiger. So I was thinking it like a ghost, like being like, I'm a cat too.

• 50:54Corinne Vien?

  We don't know what it is. But that is, that's wild. Which also, it's like, it's interesting because if the cat normally would meow at the ceiling, which is, I guess, maybe a normal cat behavior.

• 51:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but it does make me question if the cat is seeing a spirit and this, this one instance is they all witnessed the spirit.

• 51:13Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 51:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Really interacting.

• 51:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Because how often does that probably happen where you're just assuming that your cat is the one that moved the stuffed animal or brought the toys somewhere?

• 51:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or you hear your cat meowing, but you don't see what, what else is happening? What the spirit is doing?

• 51:30Corinne Vien?

  This is normal playtime for them. You just witnessed it for the first time.

• 51:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And only time.

• 51:34Corinne Vien?

  Dang.

• 51:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love shared experiences, though. When everyone together is like, what the fuck?

• 51:40Corinne Vien?

  And I appreciate, because I know so many people here have skeptical significant others, I appreciate that Alicia's husband, then boyfriend, was also witness to this in his formative years. He cannot deny paranormal activity.

• 51:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And that is why you determined he was husband material.

• 51:57Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, exactly. This, this was the moment, right, Alicia?

• 52:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's the protocol. You need that. Wow, okay. Well, we also have so many other Poltergeist stories and I know that there are a lot of people. Yeah. Out there who have Poltergeist stories. So please continue to email us your encounters with the other side, with the paranormal, with the cryptids, strained, unusual aliens. Email it to us at [email protected]. Keep recommending us TV shows, even if we forget who recommended them. We do listen and watch and read and whatnot. Rate and review us on iTunes. Join us on.

• 52:34Corinne Vien?

  Apple, wherever you listen.

• 52:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Join us.

• 52:36Corinne Vien?

  Wait, I said Spotify. My brain isn't working.

• 52:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was like, did we stop saying iTunes? Like, are we not supposed to say iTunes anymore? I guess it is, but it's not really iTunes.

• 52:45Corinne Vien?

  It's Apple Podcasts.

• 52:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Does iTunes even exist anymore? Because it's Apple Music.

• 52:49Corinne Vien?

  Now you've got me. Rate and review wherever you listen.

• 52:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm having a really weird moment. iTunes sounds like 20 years ago.

• 52:59Corinne Vien?

  Wait, no, the store is called iTunes Store. But that's not where podcasts are. Podcasts are a completely other app.

• 53:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Okay, rate and review us. And then if you want bonus content and all episodes one week early and ad free, you can join us on Patreon. There's lots of fun stuff over there for you to explore and be a part of our little Most Haunted Friend community.

• 53:20Corinne Vien?

  Thank you to Jamie Ryan for editing and producing our podcast. And we will, Alicia, say it with us.

• 53:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See you on the other side.

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