Episode 325 - Ghost Flight: The Vanishing of Malaysia Flight MH370 (Part One)

On March 8, 2014, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 vanished without a trace. 239 people were on board — and 38 minutes after takeoff, the plane simply disappeared. No distress call. No radar contact. Nothing. In this two-part special, we dive deep into the haunting mystery of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, a true ghost flight that challenges logic, stirs global grief, and raises chilling questions about what really happened in the skies on March 8, 2014. In Part One, we break down the timeline: a routine red-eye flight, an eerie last transmission, and seven hours of silent flight into one of the most remote parts of the Indian Ocean. We explore theories of government secrecy, flight simulation clues, haunting last phone calls that kept ringing days after the crash, and the agonizing search for answers. With no wreckage, no black box, and only scattered satellite pings, MH370 became more than a missing flight — it became a modern ghost story. Custom painting company Sabrina used: Portraithy Art on Etsy - https://www.etsy.com/shop/PortraithyArt Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:30Corinne Vien?

  They boarded just after midnight. A two-year-old clinging to his mother's hand, a couple on their honeymoon, 20 engineers heading to Beijing for a technology conference, and a man on his very last work trip before retiring. It was routine. A red eye, clear skies, and the Boeing 777 was manned by a very experienced crew. 239 souls were onboard. Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 took off from its destination at Kuala Lumpur at 12:41 a.m. It never arrived to its destination. Thirty-eight minutes into the flight, it vanished.

• 2:10Corinne Vien?

  No mayday, no distress call, no radar contact, just gone. This is the ghost flight. Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

• 2:44Corinne Vien?

  Hello, everybody.

• 2:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello.

• 2:45Corinne Vien?

  This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 2:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two girls, one ghost. And that is Corinne.

• 2:51Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I am Sabrina. And I'm so vain that I literally have a portrait of myself next to me.

• 3:00Corinne Vien?

  Okay, but it's not for vanity's sake. It's for the vibe and the aesthetic of the space that you're in. Because you created like a whiskey bar speakeasy lounge in your home.

• 3:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 3:10Corinne Vien?

  And you obviously had to get an oil painting. I feel like that's really cool. And you inspired me. I'm like, wait, I want one of myself now.

• 3:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I want us to get one for our studio. And I'm a little sick this week, which is why, for the sake of Corinne and her family, I was like, I'm just gonna record from my whiskey room that looks similar to our studio. And we'll get the same vibes.

• 3:31Corinne Vien?

  Doesn't it look like we're in the same room together? Because we copied the wallpaper Sabrina had already picked out in her home for our office.

• 3:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, we should get one for our studio of the two of us. This website, actually this company Payne founded, they're great. They're on Etsy. They're called Portrait-y.art. And they have a bunch of different artists.

• 3:53Corinne Vien?

  Do you choose a picture of you? Or do you just send them a bunch of photos of yourself?

• 3:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We sent them a couple of photos of us. Like, there was one photo I had of me holding Leia. That's not the photo that they used for my face. This actually, this photo of my face was taken at your wedding.

• 4:07Corinne Vien?

  How? When?

• 4:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I took a selfie of me. The lighting was great. We'll add it in. It's a great photo, so let's add it in there.

• 4:14Corinne Vien?

  So, speaking of vanity, we're gonna add Sabrina's selfie into the YouTube video.

• 4:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We can do a side by side and see how they used the photo to create.

• 4:24Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Well, and so we're recording on the two-year anniversary, basically, of you taking that selfie.

• 4:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, happy wedding anniversary. Happy selfie anniversary to me.

• 4:35Corinne Vien?

  Happy selfie anniversary to Sabrina. Congratulations on two years of an amazing selfie.

• 4:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All right, this isn't about me.

• 4:43Corinne Vien?

  This is, this is not about me either. This is about ghosts and paranormal and mysteries and strange phenomena. Because we are a paranormal podcast. And for this episode, I decided to kind of do a two-parter about a mystery that's like somewhat unsolved, kind of solved, somewhere in between. But this is Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which if anyone has watched the Netflix documentary, there's a three-part documentary. It's so, so good. And I just feel like, not to scare people, but I feel like there's just been so much about planes and the news recently. And it just got me thinking about what can happen.

• 5:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What has been happening with planes and aircrafts and just travel in general is very scary. And I'm really trying to just tune it out because I do love traveling. I've been on a plane like six times since everything. But I will indulge you in this episode. It is also heartbreaking. And I think.

• 5:44Corinne Vien?

  It's very heartbreaking.

• 5:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is, more than anything, the hardest part. Yeah.

• 5:50Corinne Vien?

  Right. But it is, the reason that this. Fits into this podcast is because when this flight Malaysia Airlines three seventy went missing, there were a ton of theories and conspiracies about what happened. We're going to go through that and there are quite a few about the paranormal.

• 6:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm hmm.

• 6:09Corinne Vien?

  And I will also say that in this day and age, we hear a lot more because of the news and because of like the social media outlets that we have. So while, yes, things have been happening and we're getting a lot of news of terrifying events that happen in the skies. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's happening any more than it used to be.

• 6:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 6:29Corinne Vien?

  All right, but let us venture into a very sad, sad, tragic tale. Two weeks in a row, because this is a two parter.

• 6:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Before we get super sad, let me just set up something exciting for next week. I just had my Wicca beginnings, like one oh one class yesterday or Sunday. And we talked a lot about numerology and astrology and I really want to start next episode with a little bit of a numerology discussion. I will read your numerology, Trin.

• 7:00Corinne Vien?

  Okay, this is just like a general, like your life numerology or is it specific to?

• 7:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's like four different calculations you do. You have your life path, your expression, identity and soul urge numbers. And there's, and I'll teach everyone how to calculate it for yourself. And I'll do like an analysis for you. And truly, once I learned about it, I did it for myself. I did it for a lot of people in my life. And I was like, wow, this is spot on. It's so spot on. Yeah.

• 7:27Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God, I'm excited. I'm excited to learn because now I'm going to do it on everybody that I know too.

• 7:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly, you will. And it's easier than astrology because it's like astrology has so many different elements, but numerology is more numbers and letters. And then there's like easier breakdowns.

• 7:42Corinne Vien?

  Um, wait, one more side tangent before we begin. I learned from Eliza Kelly on her social media, what planets being in retrograde means. And it's basically. An illusion. Did you know that? I don't know. When a planet's in retrograde, it's like we see that planet as going like spinning backwards. But it's an optical illusion because of the way that like our planet is spinning at the time that like those planets are spinning. And it's she compared it to like a, I think it was when she was on Jonathan Van Ness's podcast, but she compared it to like when you're on a train and one train is going faster than the other. And it looks like the other one's going backwards, but really you're just at two different speeds of travel. So she's like, when you say mercuries in retrograde, like the retrograde is actually fake.

• 8:26Corinne Vien?

  Like there's no, it's an optical illusion. Interesting. Let us begin. It's a quiet midnight on March 8th, 2014. Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 is cruising at 35,000 feet above the South China Sea. The Boeing 777 jetliner, tail number 9MMRO. I don't know if that means anything, but I wrote it down for people who are big into aviation. It was carrying 239 souls, 227 passengers and 12 crew members. Most were Chinese nationals, others were from Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, France, the US. 14 countries in total, all bound for Beijing. In the cabin, the lights are dim.

• 9:09Corinne Vien?

  Many passengers are closing their eyes, snoozing away, thin blankets pulled up, covering them. A few glow with reading lights. A mother reassures her child, trying to get them to sleep. A businessman reviews his notes for a meeting that is awaiting him in China. Flight attendants quietly check that seatbelts are fastened and they prepare for the overnight journey. In the cockpit, Captain Zahari Ahmad Shah and First Officer Farid Abdul Hamid guide the aircraft smoothly. The weather is calm, the thrum of the twin Rolls Royce engines are steady. Everything is normal, everything is routine.

• 9:47Corinne Vien?

  At 1:19 AM local time, Malaysia air traffic control radios in to hand off the flight to Vietnam's controllers. So basically they're passing into different airspace and now there's another country in charge of air traffic control. And as the aircraft approaches the edge of the Malaysian airspace, Captain Zahari keys the mic and he responds in a very calm, familiar voice, "Good night." Malaysian 370.

• 10:15Corinne Vien?

  These words drift into the ether. A routine sign off, a routine night, nothing out of the ordinary.

• 10:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's a routine thing to say, good night to the aircraft.

• 10:26Corinne Vien?

  I think so, as you're like exiting one air control space. Basically, just like a sign off saying like, all right, I'm exiting your lead and I'm about to hop on to another country's

• 10:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 10:37Corinne Vien?

  programming or like whatever. I don't know the terminology.

• 10:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It just sounds like such an ominous, especially knowing where this goes.

• 10:42Corinne Vien?

  Knowing what happens, it sounds very ominous.

• 10:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 10:45Corinne Vien?

  But like, if you think about it, if you were flying a plane or like if you were in a boat or whatever, and you're like crossing seas or whatever, you'd be like, peace out, US, whatever. And then you hello to the next person, right?

• 10:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's true.

• 10:56Corinne Vien?

  Like it's like a sign off. So his last words were, good night Malaysian three seven zero, identifying his plane. Unbeknownst to everyone, these were the final words ever heard from MH three seventy.

• 11:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See, even more ominous.

• 11:13Corinne Vien?

  I know. It's one of those things too, where it's like, when people pass away unexpectedly, I feel like there's always, not always, but like sometimes there are those really ominous things that happen a few days before or like a few weeks before, where someone will like post something on Instagram and it like almost sounds like they know that they're about to die. You know?

• 11:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 11:32Corinne Vien?

  And this is, this kind of feels like that.

• 11:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, it also reminds me of just like that book that was written years prior to the Titanic.

• 11:39Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 11:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was like, yeah.

• 11:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Crashing and sinking. And it's just like, makes you question things.

• 11:45Corinne Vien?

  It does. Seconds later, after Captain Zahari radios this in, something changes. Because in an instant, the plane's identifying transponder stops transmitting. So on the radar screens in Kuala Lumpur, which is the airport that they took off from, and in Ho Chi Minh City, there is this blip labeled as MH three seventy, where they're tracking the plane as it goes through their airspaces. And this blip just Banishes, gone, which means the transponder on the plane, the thing that is able to send signals has somehow shut off or something's happening to it. So air traffic controllers in Vietnam await a contact because they just signed off in Malaysia. And so now they should

• 12:30Corinne Vien?

  be saying hello Vietnam Malaysian three seven zero, but that contact never comes. The flight is silent. There's no distress call, no radio message, just absolute silence. The Boeing seven seven seven, one of the most advanced passenger jets in the world has seemingly disappeared without a trace, not even an hour into its flight. Back on the ground in Kuala Lumpur's control center, there is this watch supervisor and he's, you know, looking at the clock. It's been quite a few minutes since MH three seventy's last check in. There's repeated calls to the aircraft. They're asking where they are, if everything's okay. Everything's going unanswered.

• 13:10Corinne Vien?

  So now by one thirty AM, concern is mounting, right? Because they haven't gotten any contact back and it's been an hour. An experienced crew is not responding. Captain Zahari has so much experience, so there should be no reason for him to not understand these handoffs and what to say. He's done these flights a million times and radar technicians, they switched to the primary radar. So they were like, okay, something's going on with our new technology that we use. So let's use these old fashioned raw blips and they hear something. There's this unidentified echo, which is presumed to be coming from flight MH three seventy,

• 13:49Corinne Vien?

  but where it's coming from would indicate that this plane has turned sharply off course. So on the screen, the target swings westward in a bold, unexpected arc flying back across, I'm probably going to mispronounce this, Malay Peninsula. And the controllers and military radar operators are all watching in confusion as this aircraft that should be heading north towards China, towards Beijing, is now going west, so in the complete opposite direction. Within the cabin, passengers probably felt a little bit of a shift, but I mean, like, I would never know that a plane is going off course if I were a passenger. And also, it was nighttime, like, and you're going across a huge ocean. So if there is movement,

• 14:33Corinne Vien?

  it's very unlikely unless someone was watching like the screens on the back of the seats.

• 14:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was just gonna say, because those show the flight path and it shows where the plane currently is. But my thing is like, is that real time updated or is it just tracking the path? Like, would it be able to show you that the plane turned left and started going this way instead?

• 14:56Corinne Vien?

  Right. This is the mystery, because it's like, what were people experiencing onboard, right? When this happened, like, did they know? Or were the screens shut off somehow? Were they not working? Did someone intentionally turn them off?

• 15:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And again, like, I know this episode is sad, so this is another tragic thing that I'm gonna bring up. But, you know, if you've gone to the 9/11 memorial in New York City, where they play the like, phone calls and voicemails and stuff, the last contact people on the planes sent to loved ones and family members, like, it's so heartbreaking, because in some ways, at least those people were able to communicate in a way in their final moments.

• 15:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 15:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And that we have

• 15:42Corinne Vien?

  They knew what was happening, too.

• 15:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Some awareness of what they were experiencing, but in this case, like, we'll never know.

• 15:49Corinne Vien?

  Maybe one day, but to date, we do not.

• 15:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 15:53Corinne Vien?

  Over the next hour, the aircraft veered off course, continuing northwest towards the Andaman Sea, and any attempt to reach the cockpit went unanswered. The plane slipped from Malaysian radar at 12:22 a.m., about 200 nautical miles northwest of Penang Island, in the dark of night, and then, nothing. Completely gone, no radar signals.

• 16:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  How long was the flight supposed to be?

• 16:21Corinne Vien?

  Uh, the planned duration was five hours and thirty four minutes.

• 16:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, and this is like what, an hour into the flight?

• 16:27Corinne Vien?

  This is like just about two hours, yeah. They started losing contact th- at thirty eight minutes, but then they used other technology to track what they thought was the flight, which lasted about two hours.

• 16:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Geez.

• 16:39Corinne Vien?

  So at first, controllers assumed that there was a technical glitch, which I feel like I would assume that too, where you're like, oh, there's something wrong in the radar and like the team. Because the, the plane seemed to be flying at the correct altitude, steady, calmly. So I think I would also probably be like, oh, there must be something weird in the,

• 16:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 16:58Corinne Vien?

  like some tech issue where they're being shown like the wrong path to fly.

• 17:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 17:03Corinne Vien?

  But as the minutes stretch to hours, panic really starts to set in now. And Vietnam reports that the plane never entered its airspace at all. By sunrise, officials initiate a full-scale emergency response. Search and rescue teams begin combing the South China Sea, but there is nothing. No wreckage, no debris, no oil slick, nothing.

• 17:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, I remember when this happened and like, everyone was following it live.

• 17:30Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm.

• 17:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And like, they were scanning the ocean in like the last place that the plane had made contact.

• 17:38Corinne Vien?

  Right, yeah, and even to date, I feel like there's still like every year, there's something that comes up in the news, like some new information, something was found, something is said about the plane. But I, I remember too, it was like the biggest deal in the world and well, obviously like so many people just vanished without a trace, it's tragic. And the families were obviously like extremely involved in trying to figure out what happened. Um, and when you kind of find out how they were told, it is very upsetting.

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• 19:48Corinne Vien?

  So back in Beijing, families begin arriving at the airport. So this is like six, seven hours after the plane has taken off. And they're expecting to greet their loved ones at 6:30 a.m., but the plane doesn't arrive. The monitors that are supposed to tell you what's happening with the plane, despite hours having passed and the airlines and officials knowing that this plane is missing, the monitors just say delayed. Ugh. So these families are sitting here, waiting, waiting, waiting. The monitor still says delayed. Waiting, waiting, waiting. The monitor still says delayed. Confusion then turns to dread because Malaysia airline officials then make an announcement

• 20:31Corinne Vien?

  at 7:24 a.m. So an hour after this aircraft was supposed to arrive where everyone's seeing on the monitor that it's delayed, that in fact, the plane was not delayed, flight MH370 is actually missing.

• 20:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I'm sure people were already like theorizing something had gone wrong because when a flight is delayed, I mean, you can look up online a flight number, right? And it will tell you-

• 20:55Corinne Vien?

  That's what I was just thinking. Like, I always look it up. When I'm picking someone up, I track their plane. I don't rely on them-

• 20:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it tells you it took off at this time. So it's like, okay, well, it took off. So what's the delay? And is it still in the air? What's happening? You know?

• 21:10Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 21:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That would be the first thing I did is look it up.

• 21:12Corinne Vien?

  Right, me too. So grief and panic is now sweeping through the crowd of people. Family members are crying out. People are collapsing to the floors. People shout at the airline staff demanding answers. And then rumors start to swirl in the terminal. Some say the plane had electrical failure and landed at a remote airfield. Others fear a catastrophic crash into the sea. And there's just, I feel like, Sabrina, you probably remember this too, because like, news crews arrived and they were filming these families that were kept in these waiting areas for hours and hours and hours and hours. And people were like begging for answers. And it was just like, it was so horrible to watch.

• 21:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, this happened recently with the DC flight. And, I mean, I don't know if you saw this, but like, the news reporter literally talked to a guy who, he got a text from his partner who was on the flight saying about to land. And is basically like, talking to this person, this who just lost their loved one and doesn't have like a complete story. And is like, so you got a text? Like, it was just, there was no- Humanity, it was all about getting the story and not caring about the feelings of this person at all.

• 22:25Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God. It is really hard because it's like, obviously, the news, people want to report on it, but like, so much of it's so invasive.

• 22:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 22:33Corinne Vien?

  When it comes to stuff like this.

• 22:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 22:35Corinne Vien?

  So in Kuala Lumpur, the site where Malaysia Airlines 370 took off, stunned airline executives scrambled to understand how this state of the art aircraft could simply vanish. Search and rescue is not even activated until 5:30 a.m. So that's like four hours plus after this plane went missing. And this was due to delays and miscommunication. So like, people just, I guess, didn't know, or like, maybe just didn't want to accept that the plane had been missing.

• 23:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, also, the timing of it crossing from Malaysia to Vietnam, like, it would probably be like, well, who's, who's supposed to send search and rescue team? Like, where did the miscommunication happen?

• 23:21Corinne Vien?

  And that's exactly it, because there are so many countries involved, based on the different airspaces.

• 23:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 23:28Corinne Vien?

  And also, just like, all the theories coming in. It is a very complicated case when it comes to searching for this plane, because not knowing where it went, but later finding out the plane actually did fly for seven hours. It did involve a lot of different countries, a lot of different politics, a lot of different conspiracies, and it made the search, and still today, it makes the search quite difficult.

• 23:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 23:51Corinne Vien?

  By the time the sun rose, the great mystery in modern aviation, which some say is the greatest mystery in modern aviation, had begun. So the early search for the plane is frantic. It's extremely disorganized. Dozens of aircraft and ships from multiple countries scour the waters of Vietnam and Malaysia. Reports of floating debris and oil slicks flood in, but all of them turn out to be false. None of them are either accurate or from this plane.

• 24:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I just remember everyone talking about the show Lost and comparing it to that, like, there's all these conspiracies, like, did it just, like, blip into another universe? Or, and I know that that's not what happened, but I just remember the conspiracy theorists coming up with all these ideas.

• 24:37Corinne Vien?

  And so many people wanted to believe that it did land.

• 24:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 24:41Corinne Vien?

  On a remote island, a remote airstrip.

• 24:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 24:44Corinne Vien?

  So meanwhile, confusion spread in Malaysia's command centers, conflicting information, missed radar data, delays in sharing key intelligence. Like you were saying, Sabrina, there's different countries, there's different organizations and all of them trying to share with each other. It created some confusion. Some countries were reluctant to share what they knew or what they didn't know, because also like sharing that was basically exposing their own technology and tracking capabilities. So it kind of opened up themselves to, you know, certain risks when it comes to safety and intelligence and whatnot.

• 25:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Geez.

• 25:20Corinne Vien?

  But then, a week after the plane vanished, Malaysian officials reveal a game-changing detail. Military radar had actually tracked the plane when it went dark. The flight MH370 had turned west, flown back across Malaysia, passed over the Strait of Mayaka, and disappeared into the Andaman Sea. It flew for over an hour off course with no transponder and no communication. So I did kind of allude to this in the beginning, but basically like when the flight first went missing, air traffic control only had, even with their like old blip radar, they only had so much information and then it disappeared. And then basically, another few hours was picked up from military radar.

• 26:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Interesting.

• 26:04Corinne Vien?

  But this wasn't revealed for like a few weeks. Malaysia's authorities said that they weren't sure what they were seeing, and critics accused them of actually covering things up because it took so long to come out with this information. And for days, the world watched as one of the largest multinational search efforts in history unfolded, with over thirty countries joining in the hunt for MH370.

• 26:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, I do understand to some regard withholding some information because they were confused by it as well. And they, I'm sure they were hoping that there would be a discovery of the plane and more answers. And when they realized that they weren't going to get it, they were like, well, we have to come out with this information.

• 26:43Corinne Vien?

  Well, and too, like we'll go into it, part two is really going to have all of the conspiracies and the theories. But you brought up nine eleven. Like this is something that was a huge consideration in this, which is like, what happened?

• 26:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 26:56Corinne Vien?

  Was this a terrorist attack? Did this involve some sort of cyber hijacking or like in-person hijacking? And so I'm sure part of it was not to do to cover up, but like trying to figure out. If there are other dangers and other people at play, other countries, other organizations, terrorism, they didn't know what they were dealing with. Yeah. Search planes logged thousands of hours scanning this giant empty ocean. Ships crisscrossed waters on both sides of the Malay Peninsula. And every few hours seemed to bring a new lead, a satellite image of possible debris here, or an oil rig workers' report of a fireball in the sky over there. But again, all of them proved false. And I remember all of these things coming up in the news too, where it's like,

• 27:41Corinne Vien?

  this piece of debris or this, and people are like taking pictures and comparing things and satellite images. And yeah, no, it never really turned out to be anything. So not a single piece of flight MH three seventy was found in the Southeast Asian Sea at this time. And that is when the satellite company in Marsat stepped in. Engineers reviewing satellite data discovered something strange. MH three seventy's onboard systems, specifically its satellite data unit, was still active long after it vanished from radar. So this was another confusing piece because it's like, if there was something intentionally done onboard to turn off radio signals and divert the plane, why would you only turn off certain tracking systems, but not all of them? Hmm. If that's even possible, I don't know.

• 28:26Corinne Vien?

  Right. So between two twenty five AM and eight nineteen AM, seven quote handshakes, that's what they were called, or like pings, were exchanged between the plane and the in-Marsat satellite. So this data from the satellite and where it pings, it doesn't reveal the plane's exact location, but it does prove one thing beyond a doubt. And that is that this plane flew for nearly seven hours after going dark. Okay, I did not know this. Again, the flight was supposed to be five and a half. It flew for seven more hours? No, it was seven hours total. So one could presume it flew until it ran out of fuel.

• 29:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I did not know that.

• 29:05Corinne Vien?

  Inmarsat engineers analyzed the Doppler shift in the pings and produce this result. They say the plane flew either north towards Central Asia or south into the Indian Ocean, completely opposite spaces to search. And for seven hours of time, that basically makes the search impossible.

• 29:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And this is also coming out like a week plus afterwards, which makes a search even more difficult because they've been searching

• 29:33Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 29:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  one specific area, but if it's five plus more hours in multiple different directions, like that makes the search even more difficult.

• 29:41Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, and it doesn't even take into consideration like the drifts in the ocean and like where things could be pulled if it did

• 29:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my gosh.

• 29:48Corinne Vien?

  crash. Okay, so after cross checking with military radar, the northern path is ruled out because the military did track it going south. So they were like, okay, it would make no sense for it to go south and then to go north, especially if none of the other countries like Vietnam picked up on their radars, this plane coming into their space.

• 30:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 30:08Corinne Vien?

  So the final handshake at eight nineteen AM places MH three seventy somewhere along what's now called the seventh arc. So there are a bunch of kind of like arcs and like maps made in search for MH three seventy. And the seventh arc is this vast curvature in the Southern Indian Ocean, west of Australia, which is where most of the search occurred.

• 30:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 30:30Corinne Vien?

  After this discovery, I should say.

• 30:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 30:32Corinne Vien?

  By now, families are growing desperate. Some believe their loved ones may still be alive. The plane had to have landed somewhere, right? Similar to like lost. Or others accused the airline and the government of lying.

• 30:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 30:46Corinne Vien?

  In Beijing, families staged protests and one group stormed a press conference screaming things like, why don't you tell us the truth? What else are you hiding? Just really questioning what was going on because it seemed like no one had the answers. And every time an answer was produced, there was something else coming out that was conflicting with that answer. So it did seem really suspicious the whole time.

• 31:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I feel like on a smaller scale, this is something that airlines still do. And it is something that I struggle with. Like when a flight is delayed, why isn't there more transparency? Or if a flight's going to be canceled, I feel like they wait until the last second to tell you. And it's like, they knew. They knew before this, they knew that the pilot and the crew were going past their, you know, allowed allotted time.

• 31:33Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 31:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Why not communicate with your passengers?

• 31:37Corinne Vien?

  I guess the confusing thing in this case is like they didn't know. They don't know.

• 31:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 31:41Corinne Vien?

  They barely know anything. They're trying to figure it out.

• 31:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 31:44Corinne Vien?

  So these loved ones are vocalizing their pain, their frustration. They're saying, hey, we're not looking for miracles here. We just want the truth. You need to give us some information. You need to be more transparent. They deserve answers. And families were also not the only ones seeking answers because by now the story of MH370 had gripped the world. News sites worldwide had picked up the stories. We were watching, we were reading. And everyone was asking, how does a Boeing 777, one of the fastest, most advanced commercial jets, simply vanish in 2024 with all the technology that was in place? No trace, no wreckage, no explanation. And yet the satellite pings say the plane flew on for seven hours across some of the

• 32:29Corinne Vien?

  most remote ocean on earth. There was no radio, no transponder, no distress call, no passengers sending texts, nothing. It was a ghost flight. Families are told the heartbreaking news. Their loved ones are presumed to lost somewhere in the vast expanse of rolling gray seas, far from any land, most likely so far from any available airstrips to land on. And many refuse to believe it. The idea that the plane could fly for hours in the wrong direction without anyone knowing, it just felt so inconceivable and so unlikely. And it's like, how did that happen? Especially when you're flying into different airspaces, you would think if there's some weird unidentified craft, right?

• 33:11Corinne Vien?

  Because it wasn't, it's like normal signals and pings weren't picking up. If there's an unidentified craft. You would think, especially such a giant aircraft, that militaries would send out planes to go look, right?

• 33:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 33:25Corinne Vien?

  But that is what the data showed. And Malaysian officials citing the Inmarsat analysis later concluded that it was beyond reasonable doubt that MH370 went down in the Indian Ocean with no survivors. So now everyone's told, we don't know where your loved ones are. We don't really know where the plane is, but they're dead.

• 33:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Which is a very difficult thing to say to people when you don't have evidence.

• 33:49Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 33:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the lack of evidence is also evidence in itself. Like, there's been no sightings, no communication, no evidence to indicate that people are okay or alive. So the only alternative is that, yeah, they've perished, which is so sad.

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• 35:11Corinne Vien?

  Investigators now face a chilling possibility that the disappearance was not an accident. That someone, either the pilot or an intruder, may have deliberately disabled communications and steered the aircraft off course for seven hours. But who and why? A team of international experts began reconstructing a timeline. And while they did that, Australian Transport Safety Bureau launched an underwater search. And the search occurred in the Indian Ocean, which was extremely difficult, just like to traverse in and of itself, because it's really remote, there's hostile seas, waves up to 20 meters, winds are howling, there's really strong currents, like, how are you ever gonna find something?

• 35:57Corinne Vien?

  So for weeks and then months, the international team combed through 120,000 square kilometers of ocean floor, the area the size of Pennsylvania, using state-of-the-art sonar, submersible drones, and imaging equipment. Which my one question is like, how does that even work? Because like, what if you searched one area? And then what if debris did drift into the area you just searched, but like,

• 36:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 36:22Corinne Vien?

  now you're not searching there? You, you said that it's gone, that there's nothing there. I think there's a lot of math involved that I can't do.

• 36:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 36:30Corinne Vien?

  So the deep seabed there is very rugged, it's uncharted, and search vessels battled mechanical breakdowns, dangerous weather. It was just like, very much not an easy search to begin with. And then there were all these extra challenges that made it difficult for the equipment to even work. But they did find things in the search. Shipwrecks from centuries past, and other really cool historical things, but they did not find Malaysia Flight MH370.

• 36:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To just reflect on the cool aspect of this, finding old shipwrecks and just the ocean, one, I think, is the largest graveyard, two... Is like a treasure trove, truly. The amount of history hidden beneath the ocean is probably insurmountable. And I just think about like archaeologists and all these people finding treasure in like when I was in Peru, like the Inca stuff and all of like the pottery from civilizations pre-Inca and like in B.C. But like, what's in the ocean?

• 37:32Corinne Vien?

  Right. And like they found so much and think about how many shipwrecks and people have been lost at sea, ships lost at sea, especially before we had any of these.

• 37:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 37:41Corinne Vien?

  Track. I feel like I'm probably conflating data here, but in my mind, all of the historical stories of like ship voyages, it was like one in three ships just like never returned.

• 37:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 37:51Corinne Vien?

  So.

• 37:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And think about how many carcasses and prehistoric creatures whose bones are just like beneath the ocean.

• 38:01Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that is really interesting. And I do wonder if there's kind of like bog bodies, how there's certain conditions that allow preservation. If there are any areas in the sea that maybe are hiding that where there are these like prehistoric carcasses, like dinosaurs and stuff that their bodies are preserved. Cause otherwise the ocean and the minerals and the bacteria and creatures like, you know, things don't last that long. It's, everything's pretty recycled.

• 38:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the bones wouldn't decay, right? I don't think.

• 38:32Corinne Vien?

  Wouldn't they?

• 38:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 38:34Corinne Vien?

  So still, despite there being any evidence of what happened to flight MH three seventy, families refused to give up the search.

• 38:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 38:42Corinne Vien?

  Every year on March eighth, they hold memorials. They light candles, they share stories, they ask the world to keep looking. Because until the plane is found, the story is not over. Theories arose about a murder-suicide plot, hijackers, military cover-ups. And some questioned whether the plane was abducted by a UFO, if it entered a time slip, if it entered another dimension. Because how does a plane go so far off course with no contact and seemingly no one onboard noticing? For the loved ones of the missing passengers, there remained a bit of hope. And there was something that happened within those first few days that the plane was missing that made them question whether the plane was missing at all.

• 39:27Corinne Vien?

  Desperate and distraught, loved ones placed call after call to their family members' phones, praying for an answer. And oddly, some of those calls went through.

• 39:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What?

• 39:39Corinne Vien?

  The cellphones of the missing passengers on this missing flight rang a few times before disconnecting. Multiple families later reported that the cellphones of missing passengers continued to ring for hours, for even days after their disappearance.

• 39:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so they, they never got answered, but they rang?

• 40:01Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 40:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  As opposed to when a phone is off or dead, it, it goes straight to voicemail?

• 40:06Corinne Vien?

  Right. But this would indicate that the phones were, they felt it indicated the phones were on, because it would ring a few times.

• 40:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I've also, I feel like I have had instances where it will ring like two or three times and then go to voicemail. I'm just curious what the technology is, or like what the reasoning behind it is.

• 40:24Corinne Vien?

  Well, I'll tell you what the reasoning claimed to be in part two.

• 40:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, okay. Gotta wait.

• 40:30Corinne Vien?

  Gotta wait, sorry. All of the answers come in part two. Cliffhanger. But for days after the disappearance, some of these cellphones of the missing passengers continued to ring. And there was a journalist from the China Daily who even dialed one of the numbers of the missing passenger, and it rang and rang and rang, but no one answered. So people were asking, is this a glitch? Were the phones still powered and apparently reachable? And if the plane crashed, why were the phones ringing at all? Where were the people aboard missing flight MH370? And why wasn't anyone saying what was really going on? Because maybe the truth isn't buried underwater at all.

• 41:12Corinne Vien?

  Maybe it slipped into a tear between worlds and is still trying to call home. In part two, we dig into the final moments of the plane's known trajectory and the theories behind the disappearance of Malaysia flight MH370. And next week is a long one.

• 41:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 41:29Corinne Vien?

  There's a lot.

• 41:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ah, this, it's just so heartbreaking. And I mean, that's the only way to address this. It's, it's so heartbreaking and I feel for these families and loved ones. And I can't imagine the pain, the confusion, the desire for answers, the heartache, and the feelings of hope that they wanted to hold on to. And yeah, it's heartbreaking.

• 41:52Corinne Vien?

  I know, it is. And it's also so confusing too, because I guess like just walking away from part one, my mind is like, okay, well, the plane crashed. But then in part two, when we go into the theories and the conspiracies and some of the things that were talked about, you're like, oh, my God, there really are so many possibilities with what could have happened.

• 42:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 42:10Corinne Vien?

  And because there's, we're lacking so much evidence.

• 42:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 42:14Corinne Vien?

  A lot of these things kind of have a chance of being true.

• 42:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 42:18Corinne Vien?

  Or like in your mind.

• 42:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like, who's to say?

• 42:20Corinne Vien?

  Right, exactly. And again, like if anyone's watched that Netflix three-part special, it is really interesting because they do go into some of these theories, especially with the hijacking and all of that sort of stuff. And they like play out, like show kind of like what would have to happen, where someone would have to be, and how they would have to like come out of a compartment, or who they would have to face. Like all of these things that would have to go perfectly right. And everyone's turning their heads and asleep and not looking and ignoring this or that and that and that.

• 42:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 42:49Corinne Vien?

  For certain things to happen. And it just seems like every theory seems both improbable and probable.

• 42:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 42:57Corinne Vien?

  And it's like everyone's a suspect. Every country's a suspect.

• 43:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like until we actually have hard evidence, anything is possible. And we should look at all options and or possibilities. Damn.

• 43:11Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 43:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I didn't pick a story about a plane crash because I knew, well, one, we don't really have that many. And two, I wanted to do something a little bit lighter.

• 43:24Corinne Vien?

  Great. Although I will say, we have one

• 43:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 43:27Corinne Vien?

  story about a plane crash, but we have not. It's only on Patreon, but we read it like very edited on one of our Patreon episodes, but it does include a like very convincing ghost photo attached to it.

• 43:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, we've read that on the regular feed.

• 43:43Corinne Vien?

  Did we?

• 43:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, we read that on our main feed and then we reread it on Patreon. But yes, I always think about that one. If you go to our Instagram and go to the highlight reel ghost photos, I believe the photo is in there if you're curious what we're talking about. But for now, I'm going to read a story about us haunting someone while they were on an airplane.

• 44:04Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that's cool. Okay.

• 44:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So this is from our listener Raquel and it is called, I thought a plane flight would save me from Sven, dot, dot, dot, I was wrong. Hello, Corinne and Sabrina.

• 44:17Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 44:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Longtime listener, first time ghost story submitter. So a few years ago, my best friend got me into your podcast and I've since made a fan out of my husband, who has then gotten a few of his coworkers into Two Girls, One Ghost as well. We hope we make the triangle proud.

• 44:33Corinne Vien?

  You really do.

• 44:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's so cool. Pat on the back for all of you. Raquel said, I'm typically a few weeks behind in my listening, so I first heard the news of Corinne's floating candle flames on Instagram. And I knew that encounters 151 and the nuns are possessed episodes were causing some serious activity. So I decided to finally listen to those episodes during a plane flight, because somehow I thought ghosts couldn't track me if I was going extremely fast in the air.

• 45:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was wrong.

• 45:03Corinne Vien?

  This is a science experiment and you proved your hypothesis wrong.

• 45:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 45:08Corinne Vien?

  Congratulations on science.

• 45:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, and congratulations to Sven defying physics. I guess the paranormal already does defy the physics we understand and know. So.

• 45:19Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 45:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So I finished both episodes just fine and we were about to start descending into our destination. I travel a lot for work and this was a work trip, so my plan was to head to a hotel after the flight landed. But before we start descending. I see my backpack, which is under the seat in front of me, deflate out of nowhere, like someone pushed in the side of it with their foot. Odd, I thought, but if that's the extent of activity I get from these episodes, all right, not bad. Fast forward to I get to my hotel room. It's about 8:00 PM when I finally check in and get settled. I'm in the hotel bathroom about to brush my teeth and head to bed because I had a work meeting in the morning. My phone is securely lying on the counter beside me in the middle of the counter near

• 46:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  the sink, when suddenly my phone shoots off the counter, flying to the bathroom floor. Rude, I exclaim. And then I try to rationalize what happened.

• 46:11Corinne Vien?

  And also expensive if you broke that, dear spirits.

• 46:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But what a way to get your attention. I try to rationalize what happened by checking for some type of angle or slant on the counter that would cause it to fall off, but no. I think Sven got me. Also, a thing to note, I was on the top floor and as I got settled into bed, every 30 minutes or so, I heard what sounded like footsteps above my room. But I'm on the top floor. So now I'm getting spooked. I turned the TV and lights on and I slept with them both on that night and barely got any sleep. In the morning, exhausted, I proclaimed, I do not have time for this, as I prepared for my important work meeting. So I must have closed myself off because after I said that, all of the activity stopped.

• 46:56Corinne Vien?

  Interesting.

• 46:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank you for all that you do. You two are amazing. See you on the other side, Raquel.

• 47:01Corinne Vien?

  Okay, this email kind of reminded me of questions I have about, I guess, like our podcast, is the hauntings involved? Because we don't know when an episode is going to cause hauntings. And it is so interesting because it does seem to be like there are very specific episodes that a large number of listeners do experience stuff and we find out after the fact from people emailing us, commenting us. Sometimes we experience stuff ourselves when we record that episode. Like with the flame

• 47:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm hmm.

• 47:30Corinne Vien?

  From October a few years ago. But sometimes we don't experience anything and we just tell our story, post it, and then

• 47:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 47:37Corinne Vien?

  Everyone else is experiencing things. But it does make me curious how much of those experiences are Sven haunting like a new listener, being like, ooh, people are expecting this, let me perform.

• 47:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm hmm.

• 47:49Corinne Vien?

  Or actually something darker that's attached to the story or just feeding off the fear of people hearing those stories.

• 47:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or someone's own guardian being like, hey, I don't think you should listen to this episode. Let me try to scare you off of it or

• 48:06Corinne Vien?

  Spiritual censorship?

• 48:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, spiritual censorship. That's the other mystery of the paranormals. Very, very rarely do we get answers. We actually, we should do a we are haunted episode again because the amount of stories. So send us your email, just in general, send us your emails about any paranormal encounter, any weird UFO, cryptid, anything odd, supernatural and strange. But especially send them to us if you have had an encounter while listening to our podcast.

• 48:38Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 48:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because of our podcast that you credit to Sven, or maybe it's like the P T D Peggy the Doll episodes that have haunted you. Just send them to us because we'll do a whole

• 48:48Corinne Vien?

  Please.

• 48:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A whole encounters.

• 48:50Corinne Vien?

  And make sure you put your like keywords into your email too.

• 48:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 48:54Corinne Vien?

  Because we theme all of our episodes, all of our encounters. And just because we covered something before does not mean we won't cover it again.

• 49:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Follow us on social media if you want episodes one week early and ad free plus bonus content, join us on Patreon.

• 49:08Corinne Vien?

  And if you want to help us out and get sucked into the triangle, join the pyramid scheme. It's very easy. We require almost nothing of you, except for you to rate and review and to tell everyone else about the podcast. That helps immensely. And also just for every podcast you listen to, that will help the creators of those shows be more discoverable. So do it for, for everyone you like or don't like.

• 49:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And do it for us.

• 49:31Corinne Vien?

  Do it for all and do it for us or else Sven will haunt you.

• 49:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And thank you to our editor and producer, Jamie Ryan. We're so grateful for all that you do and thank you to all of you for listening.

• 49:46Corinne Vien?

  And we will

• 49:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See you on the other side.

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