Kelly Rowland

We are back! Series 19 is here and we’re kicking things off with the phenomenal Kelly Rowland! Fresh off a flight from LA, Kelly joined us for a chicken, peach & mint salad followed by a raspberry poke cake. We heard all about her Southern food roots, her mum’s legendary fried chicken & peach cobbler, coming to London with Destiny’s Child as a teenager where she tried sushi for the very first time, we also get the answer we’re all waiting for - whether we could ever see a Destiny’s Child reunion! Plus, we find out Kelly’s ultimate food ‘Dilemma’… hot dog or hamburger?! Thank you Kelly for being the most glorious guest to kick off our brand new series! Kelly is the new face of the Olay ‘Super’ collection, available now. Listen & watch Table Manners here - https://tablemanners.komi.io/ Follow Table Manners on: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tablemannerspodcast/ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@tablemannerspodcast Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/tablemannerspodcast YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@TableMannersPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:03Jessie Ware?

  Hello and welcome to Table Manners, season 19, Mum.

• 0:08Speaker 01

  That doesn't mean we've been going for 19 years.

• 0:10Jessie Ware?

  No, but it does mean we've been going for 10 years, I think, really.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  I feel like we've been going 119 years today.

• 0:16Jessie Ware?

  Okay, well, this leads us to, Lenny is having her hip hop.

• 0:21Speaker 01

  Hip hop?

• 0:22Jessie Ware?

  Hip hop.

• 0:23Speaker 01

  I'm not doing hip hop dancing, I'm having a hip hop.

• 0:26Jessie Ware?

  And they do serve wine in the rehabilitation centre, so you'll be okay.

• 0:30Speaker 01

  That was the main reason for choosing it, not the physical.

• 0:33Jessie Ware?

  Your eyes are sparkly today, Lenny.

• 0:35Speaker 01

  I don't know, it was a mistake.

• 0:36Jessie Ware?

  Ah, I like it, it looks fab.

• 0:38Speaker 01

  It was a bit of a mistake, darling.

• 0:39Jessie Ware?

  Looks fab.

• 0:41Jessie Ware?

  You may be watching us on the Apple Video Podcast section, so hi, nice to meet you.

• 0:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, welcome, Apple people.

• 0:48Jessie Ware?

  Nano, nano. You can click between the video and audio now, so if you want to see the food, you can come and have a little look, or if you don't fancy seeing what we're eating, you can just listen. Also, because, you know, we're all visual now, we now have to encourage you to subscribe and like our videos, because it really helps. We used to do this back in season one, didn't we, Mum? But now, we've been told, you put it at the beginning of the thing. So if you are enjoying Table Manners, you can like and subscribe.

• 1:15Speaker 01

  Subscribe on both Apple and YouTube.

• 1:18Jessie Ware?

  And Spotify, I guess.

• 1:19Speaker 01

  And Spotify.

• 1:21Jessie Ware?

  We are so excited for our season opener. We have the phenomenal Kelly Rowland, who you will know from the most iconic girl group, Destiny's Child, or her illustrious solo career with bangers such as Dilemma, When Love Takes Over, Motivation, as my husband, when I put it on this morning, knew all the words, forgot that he was an R and B boy.

• 1:45Speaker 01

  On no matter what you do.

• 1:47Jessie Ware?

  That's Dilemma.

• 1:48Speaker 01

  Oh, is that Dilemma?

• 1:50Jessie Ware?

  Also, she's just been announced as the Voice UK's new judge.

• 1:55Speaker 01

  And?

• 1:55Jessie Ware?

  And.

• 1:56Speaker 01

  The new face of Ole.

• 1:58Jessie Ware?

  She is gorgeous.

• 2:00Speaker 01

  Your grandma would have been so thrilled.

• 2:02Jessie Ware?

  Oh my god.

• 2:02Speaker 01

  To meet any ambassador of Ole.

• 2:05Jessie Ware?

  Oh my god, she was still lather it on, didn't she?

• 2:07Speaker 01

  Oiler Ole.

• 2:08Jessie Ware?

  Oiler Ole. Kelly Rowland is coming on, and she's coming on at kind of an odd time for food. So you've done something quite light, haven't you?

• 2:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've just made a salad, a peach and chicken salad.

• 2:22Jessie Ware?

  Which I think I did for Rob Delaney, it's a Nigel Slater Guardian recipe.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:27Jessie Ware?

  Really good.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:28Jessie Ware?

  And the peaches are still good, or next to me, it's still good.

• 2:30Speaker 01

  The peaches are great, they were just right today.

• 2:33Jessie Ware?

  And then you've done some, what was it called?

• 2:36Speaker 01

  Raspberry poke cake.

• 2:38Jessie Ware?

  What's that mean?

• 2:39Speaker 01

  I poked holes in the cake that I made.

• 2:41Jessie Ware?

  Oh, to get like syrup?

• 2:42Speaker 01

  To get the raspberry in, yeah. Let's hope it works.

• 2:45Jessie Ware?

  Well, it looks beautiful.

• 2:46Speaker 01

  I hope so.

• 2:47Jessie Ware?

  Um, how was your summer, Mum?

• 2:50Speaker 01

  Well, it was fab, really. I was away for nearly seven weeks.

• 2:53Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, don't we?

• 2:53Speaker 01

  In Greece, yeah. And I loved it. It was beautiful, all our favourite people there. And a lovely, the man who worked in Platonos Square.

• 3:06Jessie Ware?

  Asked you out on a date?

• 3:07Speaker 01

  He, no, he asked me to sit and have a drink of either coffee, wine, or water.

• 3:12Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 3:13Speaker 01

  And I said, oh, I'm a bit busy. I couldn't imagine what I was going to do by sitting talking to me, and he suddenly.

• 3:19Jessie Ware?

  You thought that he just wanted you to buy guros?

• 3:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:22Jessie Ware?

  Right.

• 3:22Speaker 01

  And he suddenly said, I just love your podcast, which was so strange.

• 3:27Jessie Ware?

  Great.

• 3:28Speaker 01

  He's like, you know, he's not the youngest man in the world. I've been seeing him in Platonos Square for about 30 years. He loves the podcast.

• 3:37Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, Sue.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, Sue.

• 3:39Jessie Ware?

  We are so thrilled to be back. We are excited about the year ahead, wherever it takes us. We are potentially planning something exciting next year. And we are thrilled to have Kelly Rowland as an opener. I mean, she's a huge star, international.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  Is she very tall? She looks tall.

• 3:59Jessie Ware?

  I think she looks tall.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:01Jessie Ware?

  And she's got like never-ending legs.

• 4:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what I think.

• 4:05Jessie Ware?

  But maybe Beyonce's just a little, little short one. I don't know. I'm not sure. What do we think? She's 5'8".

• 4:12Speaker 01

  Oh, she's not that tall then.

• 4:13Jessie Ware?

  That's tall.

• 4:14Speaker 01

  That isn't that tall, darling.

• 4:16Jessie Ware?

  Cindy Crawford's 5'9".

• 4:18Speaker 01

  Oh, is she? Yeah, that's tall.

• 4:20Jessie Ware?

  I think 5'8" is a glorious height. Kelly Rowland, coming up on Table Manners.

• 4:33Jessie Ware?

  Kelly Rowland, as I live and breathe. You are radiant.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  Thank you very much.

• 4:39Jessie Ware?

  It must be that oiler syrup.

• 4:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, it must be. I'm wanting it.

• 4:43Jessie Ware?

  Why do I call it oiler? Because it was oil of Ole.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  It used to be oil of Ole.

• 4:49Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. That's what my grandma used to like slather on.

• 4:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, and the smell, I can remember. Is it the same smell?

• 4:56Speaker 02

  It's changed a bit. It's definitely evolved since me looking at it on my great aunt's counter. You know what I mean? That's where I first got my first, I say, taste of oil of Ole. So you're right.

• 5:10Speaker 01

  It used to be oil of Ule.

• 5:12Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  It was with the U.

• 5:13Speaker 02

  Was it? So in the States, it was oil of Ole, and here it was oil of Ule.

• 5:18Speaker 01

  And then they changed it. My mum never got to grips with the O instead of the U.

• 5:23Jessie Ware?

  Wow.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  So she always used to say, oiler Ule.

• 5:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, and that's why you just said it. That's so interesting.

• 5:29Speaker 01

  Very, very cool.

• 5:31Speaker 02

  I'm wonderful.

• 5:32Jessie Ware?

  You flew in this morning?

• 5:33Speaker 02

  I did.

• 5:33Jessie Ware?

  You poor thing.

• 5:35Speaker 02

  I'm fine, no.

• 5:36Jessie Ware?

  Because there were all these flight cancer, like, it was mad, the IT thing.

• 5:39Speaker 02

  That's exactly what happened. And it was like last minute, but it did give me some time, some extra time with my babies. So that was cool.

• 5:46Jessie Ware?

  Where did you fly from? Where do you live?

• 5:47Speaker 02

  Los Angeles.

• 5:48Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 5:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:49Jessie Ware?

  How old are the babies now?

• 5:50Speaker 02

  11 and 5. I can't even believe I have an 11-year-old child. It's so wild, because he's like almost my height, and his voice is starting to drop. Oh, and I'm looking at his little face, mature and changed right before my eyes, and it just lets me know how precious time is.

• 6:12Jessie Ware?

  I hear you.

• 6:13Speaker 02

  Oh, it's, my heart is beating a little bit harder just thinking about time, because I don't take it for granted, especially being a mother and watching, or being able to have the opportunity to watch them grow is a blessing.

• 6:27Jessie Ware?

  But at least you've got the five-year-old, you've still got like, you know, in the way, like, you can still baby, I baby my five-year-olds so much.

• 6:34Speaker 02

  I do too.

• 6:35Jessie Ware?

  I'm like, the 10-year-old, I'm like, get out of my bed. The five-year-old, I'm like, you can stay, you can stay.

• 6:39Speaker 01

  I'm sure soon he's a big boy toddler.

• 6:41Jessie Ware?

  I mean, he thinks he's a big guy, but like.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, so does mine. He thinks he's a big boy. And you know what? I'll give him that, but I want him to be my baby. And he just started kindergarten, and when he started, he was like, bye, Mum, and left and went into the rest of the.

• 6:57Jessie Ware?

  Oh, well, that's good.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh no, it was great. It was great. But I was like, literally cried on the campus. As soon as the teacher closed the door, I was like, I had these big glasses on, thank God I had these glasses on, but I cried like a baby, like a baby.

• 7:12Jessie Ware?

  How long are you away from them this trip?

• 7:15Speaker 02

  Seven days.

• 7:16Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  It's not bad.

• 7:17Jessie Ware?

  It's not bad, but yeah, I hear you.

• 7:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:20Speaker 01

  So who's looking after them? Your husband?

• 7:22Speaker 02

  My nanny and my husband, yes, yeah.

• 7:25Jessie Ware?

  God bless the great nanny.

• 7:26Speaker 02

  Man, I'm so blessed. Oh, yes, absolutely.

• 7:30Jessie Ware?

  Um, so, the podcast, we ask you lots of things about food and food memories. I mean, there's so much. I'm so excited to have you, because.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  I'm excited to be here.

• 7:40Jessie Ware?

  Well, honestly, when I've told my friends that we've got you on, they're like, no, this is huge. Everyone, because Destiny's Child was such a huge part of my kind of education in R and B and just like vocals. And then you're incredible, you're incredible. But let's talk about, you were born in Atlanta?

• 8:03Speaker 02

  Born in Atlanta, raised in Texas.

• 8:04Jessie Ware?

  Okay. And is that where, in Houston, you're in? So where, do you have a kind of a tie to both of them? And it's like culinary, what's their like food tie to both?

• 8:15Speaker 02

  I mean, the food tie to both is, you know, of course, very southern, southern roots. I'd say comfort, comfort foods, from the mac and cheeses to the fried chickens, to the rice and peas, to the mashed potatoes, all those things, yeah.

• 8:37Jessie Ware?

  So who was round the dinner table? What was a memorable dish from your childhood that maybe your parents were cooking?

• 8:43Speaker 02

  A memorable dish? Oh, my mum could really just make the most beautiful fried chicken with mashed potatoes and English peas, actually.

• 8:53Jessie Ware?

  Oh, little petit pois?

• 8:55Speaker 02

  Yes, it was my favourite. She'd probably drench them in butter and a bit of salt. And it was so good. But every time I saw it on the table, I was excited.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  So when you do your fried chicken, do you dip it in something first?

• 9:11Speaker 02

  No.

• 9:12Speaker 01

  So it's just fried without flour or breadcrumbs or?

• 9:17Speaker 02

  No, no, it's with flour, for sure.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Okay, you put flour, egg and flour or?

• 9:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, egg and flour, and she seasoned it to perfection. She let it like, you know, sit in all its greatness, and then she would drench it in the egg and flour and fry it.

• 9:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  And it was ready when it rose to the top.

• 9:35Jessie Ware?

  Are you good at it?

• 9:35Speaker 02

  No. I'm not good at fried chicken at all. I'm good, I'm, I'm good at a fish.

• 9:42Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 9:43Speaker 02

  I will bake a chicken.

• 9:45Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 9:45Speaker 02

  Um, and steak. I do a steak pretty good.

• 9:48Jessie Ware?

  Okay, tell me how you do your steak.

• 9:50Speaker 02

  So my steak, I will um, salt it and let it sit overnight.

• 9:56Jessie Ware?

  Overnight.

• 9:57Speaker 02

  Overnight.

• 9:58Jessie Ware?

  What cut are you having?

• 9:59Speaker 02

  We like a filet in our house, like a nice little filet mignon. And, cause we get it from the butcher and what else, like a little strip as well.

• 10:09Jessie Ware?

  What, like a sirloin strip?

• 10:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:11Jessie Ware?

  Okay, got it.

• 10:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, and um, so we take that and then I will butter the pan a bit. Put it in there on a like, high-ish heat, um, let it do a nice little sear. And I'll see her cook it and flip it over, but I like mine pink.

• 10:29Jessie Ware?

  Me too. I'm liking it. So how many minutes are you doing on either side, Kelly Rowland?

• 10:35Speaker 02

  Um, it depends. Like, I think it's like three to five.

• 10:39Jessie Ware?

  Three. Okay.

• 10:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:41Jessie Ware?

  And how long do you let it rest for?

• 10:43Speaker 02

  Oh, five.

• 10:43Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 10:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:45Jessie Ware?

  But it's all about the rest, isn't it?

• 10:47Speaker 02

  It's all about the rest.

• 10:48Jessie Ware?

  Do you cover it when you're resting it?

• 10:50Speaker 02

  No, should I cover it?

• 10:51Jessie Ware?

  I don't know.

• 10:52Speaker 02

  No.

• 10:53Jessie Ware?

  I don't know.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  No, I don't cover it when it rests. I just like, watch it, but I do love to baste it. Is that what you could, like when you put the garlic and all the yumminess in there?

• 11:03Jessie Ware?

  And what, do you have it with fries or mashed potato?

• 11:06Speaker 02

  Salad or spinach.

• 11:08Jessie Ware?

  You're healthy, Kelly.

• 11:10Speaker 02

  Well, with my, for my boys, I do mashed potatoes for sure.

• 11:13Jessie Ware?

  My kids did, we had mashed potato last night. Only one of my children ate it. My children are so weird about mashed potato.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  Really?

• 11:20Jessie Ware?

  Drives me mad. I'm there, having it out of this, they're just fuss pots.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  I've never heard of a fuss pot, but I like that.

• 11:28Jessie Ware?

  Like absolute, I'm like, I've got gravy, I've got a sausage there.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  You did gravy?

• 11:32Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, delicious.

• 11:33Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 11:34Jessie Ware?

  Thanks. Um, oh, I think different gravy to you though.

• 11:37Speaker 02

  No, but still it's gravy. That's, that's time.

• 11:40Jessie Ware?

  That's a midweek meal.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  You are.

• 11:42Jessie Ware?

  Do you know what I mean?

• 11:42Speaker 02

  Gangster.

• 11:43Jessie Ware?

  No, I love you. But anyway, didn't bloody eat it anyways. So, okay steak. So if we were coming around to yours, would it be steak that you would be cooking us?

• 11:51Speaker 02

  It'd probably be salmon.

• 11:52Jessie Ware?

  Okay, how do you do your salmon?

• 11:53Speaker 02

  Um, I just learned salmon, so I'm still act- actually, no, I wouldn't do it, cause I'm still learning salmon.

• 11:59Jessie Ware?

  No, come on, you're fine.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  Impress you. Um, so I, yeah, I'd probably do salmon. I do mashed potatoes, but I'd probably do a whipped sweet potato too.

• 12:09Jessie Ware?

  Ooh, I like whipped sweet potato.

• 12:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, I just whipped sweet potato.

• 12:12Jessie Ware?

  Marshmallows on? Only at Thanksgiving?

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Only at Thanksgiving. That is correct. Yeah.

• 12:18Jessie Ware?

  Do you, do you think people still do dinner parties anymore?

• 12:22Speaker 02

  Yes, I do. We do dinner parties all the time. I go to dinner parties all the time. And I love a good playlist. So if you're sitting down.

• 12:30Jessie Ware?

  Okay, hit us, because that's one of our questions. What's playing?

• 12:33Speaker 02

  I mean, what's playing? There's Marvin Gaye playing, there's Donny Hathaway, there's Stevie Wonder. There's, yes, there's Earth, Wind and Fire, there's jazz, there's Miles Davis, there's hip hop. There's like, there's everything. Like we, I have a playlist called We're the Blessed Rest. And it's like, one that I just made for our house. Like whenever we're just chilling on a nice day, it's quiet, but we got music playing.

• 12:58Jessie Ware?

  I wanna swap you. If you wanna give me your playlist, I've got a family kitchen playlist.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 13:03Jessie Ware?

  That is like, I like cooking on a Sunday and it's like gentle, beautiful Smokey Robinson's on there, like. So if you fancy doing a playlist swap?

• 13:11Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 13:12Jessie Ware?

  I'd be really happy.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  Definitely.

• 13:13Jessie Ware?

  Stevie Wonder's coming to London to do Songs in the Key of Life, the whole album.

• 13:18Speaker 02

  Anniversary.

• 13:19Jessie Ware?

  Oh my god. The fiftieth anniversary of Songs in the Key of Life. No, I think it's Royal Fest, it might be Royal Fest.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  It's gonna be the most impossible to get then.

• 13:27Jessie Ware?

  No, we're gonna try.

• 13:28Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 13:29Jessie Ware?

  That's, yeah. We should get him on the pod. Oh, I'd love it.

• 13:32Speaker 02

  Tony?

• 13:33Jessie Ware?

  Um, right. Oh my god, okay, great. He still sings the same as he sang when he was young. It's one of the few performers that have got older. And their voices not changed. I think he's fab. Do you know him?

• 13:47Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 13:49Jessie Ware?

  Have you ever been to a dinner party with Stevie Wonder?

• 13:53Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 13:55Jessie Ware?

  Is he good fun? Cause he's a great mimic, isn't he?

• 13:58Speaker 02

  One of the most amazing sense of humors.

• 14:01Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 14:01Speaker 02

  I've ever experienced in my life. Ever, ever.

• 14:06Jessie Ware?

  So what, is he just like busting jokes all the time and just making everyone laugh?

• 14:10Speaker 02

  He's, it's just kind, it flows. Like literally, I'm speechless anytime I'm around Stevie Wonder.

• 14:17Jessie Ware?

  Is he one of your ultimates?

• 14:18Speaker 02

  Yes. He's literally on my Mount Rushmore.

• 14:22Jessie Ware?

  So who were you when you were young, before girls time, like, like, who were you listening to? Was Stevie one of the voices that you?

• 14:30Speaker 02

  Stevie, Whitney Houston, funny enough, the Bee Gees, uh, Clark Sisters. Uh, uh, who else?

• 14:41Jessie Ware?

  That's good.

• 14:41Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, babyface, I mean, yeah. Yeah.

• 14:46Jessie Ware?

  I need to know, because I'm going on tour in a few weeks.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 14:51Jessie Ware?

  And I, um, um, I just got my knee checked, cause I was worried that like, I, it was either meniscus or ITB. Like, you know when you're like, I'm about to do some choreo, you know about choreo?

• 15:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 15:01Jessie Ware?

  Do you still run and sing the whole set?

• 15:05Speaker 02

  I have to.

• 15:06Jessie Ware?

  On a treadmill?

• 15:07Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 15:07Jessie Ware?

  You're still doing the Matthew Knowles approach?

• 15:09Speaker 02

  Yes, cause here's the thing.

• 15:10Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 15:11Speaker 02

  You know what the scariest thing is to me? To be on stage and I'm out of breath and other people can hear.

• 15:17Jessie Ware?

  I know, I hear you sound like a wheezing pug. I know.

• 15:20Speaker 02

  No, like petrified. Just getting my heart rate up.

• 15:23Jessie Ware?

  Okay, yeah.

• 15:24Speaker 02

  Yes, like my, my vocal coach puts me on the treadmill, speeds it up, and then she slows it down and then I have to sing. I love that she does that. Then, but I'm still walking a brisk pace. She's really hardcore.

• 15:39Jessie Ware?

  Well, how much do you think I can achieve in four weeks?

• 15:42Speaker 02

  Oh, a lot. Yes.

• 15:44Jessie Ware?

  Fine.

• 15:45Speaker 02

  You've been, you've shocked yourself.

• 15:46Jessie Ware?

  I'm bad at running. I ain't Harry Styles. Do you see how he's doing like mini marathon every night?

• 15:51Speaker 02

  Is he?

• 15:52Jessie Ware?

  Oh, have you not seen it? It's like he's got a running track on his stage.

• 15:55Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 15:56Jessie Ware?

  And he just runs and I swear it, so he can just get his five K in.

• 15:58Speaker 02

  But he's also twelve, so it's fine. He can.

• 16:01Jessie Ware?

  It does, do you feel like, and this is not because, uh, as a woman who is forty-one, nearly forty-two.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 16:07Jessie Ware?

  And we're talking about Stevie's voice and how it still sounds amazing.

• 16:11Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 16:11Jessie Ware?

  And I do feel like, and I don't know if you agree. I think your voice is amazing, darling. But I have to work harder at it. But I have to work harder at it.

• 16:18Speaker 02

  I agree with that.

• 16:19Jessie Ware?

  I'm doing more vocal training than I've ever done. And I don't know whether it's just another thing that women are blessed with. We get the bloody, we get periods. We get the bloody, we get.

• 16:28Speaker 02

  Hormonal changes?

• 16:29Jessie Ware?

  All of it.

• 16:29Speaker 02

  Yes, especially after children. My high end left a bit.

• 16:32Jessie Ware?

  Oh, really?

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Uh, yes.

• 16:34Jessie Ware?

  Well, did you get a deeper richer voice?

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Yes. Yes. I'm, yes.

• 16:38Jessie Ware?

  Did you, have you ever can, changed the key?

• 16:40Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 16:41Jessie Ware?

  And, and so sue me.

• 16:43Speaker 02

  Yes, and I don't care. I still wanna, I, I want it to be great and I wanna like, really feel like I'm in, I'm owning the moment. Instead of being anxious for the note that I'd be anxious for.

• 16:57Jessie Ware?

  I, I hear you.

• 16:58Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 16:59Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, because the, the worst bit is anticipating it and then you tense up.

• 17:02Speaker 02

  Yes. So if you have the freedom and you've been working on it all this time, then yeah, I, yeah, I don't, yeah.

• 17:11Jessie Ware?

  I mean, we're, you know, you're, you're now the voice UK, one of the coaches.

• 17:16Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 17:16Jessie Ware?

  And so I guess you're perfect for this, because you've been doing it since you were about five years old.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  Ah, yeah, I still love it.

• 17:21Jessie Ware?

  Are you moving to London then?

• 17:22Speaker 02

  No, I'm, I'm here like part-time though.

• 17:25Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  I love it here.

• 17:26Jessie Ware?

  Do you?

• 17:26Speaker 02

  I do.

• 17:27Jessie Ware?

  What do you love about London?

• 17:28Speaker 02

  It's very nostalgic for me. It just reminds me of like my first time over here and that was, how old was I? Fifteen, sixteen years old?

• 17:37Jessie Ware?

  What were you doing? Top of the pops and stuff like that?

• 17:40Speaker 02

  It was so great, sorry. But, um, it was so much fun and I just remember coming into a whole new world and what that was like for a southern girl like me. Whose family has never stepped foot outside of the United States of America. So I just thought that that was just the coolest thing ever. And it is, you know?

• 18:01Jessie Ware?

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:01Speaker 02

  Wait, I have another question for tour.

• 18:03Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 18:03Speaker 02

  So what else do you do to prepare for tour?

• 18:06Jessie Ware?

  Um, I cut down on the drinking.

• 18:08Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 18:09Jessie Ware?

  So I, but I do think moderation. So if I, I'm gonna maybe have like a glass of red wine at the weekend and that's okay. But I mean, I've just come off like summer holidays where it's been like, eh, cheers, you know.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 18:20Jessie Ware?

  I do so much tube work with my.

• 18:24Speaker 02

  Straws?

• 18:25Jessie Ware?

  Yes.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 18:26Jessie Ware?

  Because it's a much more gentle.

• 18:28Speaker 02

  It feels amazing, doesn't it? It's like a massage.

• 18:30Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 18:31Speaker 02

  Was I about to finish your sentence? This is awesome.

• 18:35Jessie Ware?

  So, and then I, also, what's my bond thing? Your bong thing? My bong, oh, the Dr. Nelson's inhaler for the. Do you have one of those? Yes, it looks like you're getting high.

• 18:48Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. Just the steam. And then also I've got a, a really good, if you need one when you're here, but I don't know how much singing you're gonna be doing here.

• 18:56Speaker 02

  A, a larynx massage?

• 18:57Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, the most amazing.

• 18:58Speaker 02

  It's great, isn't it?

• 18:59Jessie Ware?

  Babe, I, I will throw money at the problem.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 19:04Jessie Ware?

  So I do that. I'm like really like obsessed with it, cause like so much clarity comes. Does it make you feel like you're gonna gag?

• 19:11Speaker 02

  No.

• 19:12Jessie Ware?

  No, it's really painful though. And like the buckles, it's like, they go in there.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  You don't like that part?

• 19:18Jessie Ware?

  No, I don't like that part.

• 19:18Speaker 02

  Am I a weirdo?

• 19:19Jessie Ware?

  I love it. I'm like, okay, fifty shows.

• 19:22Speaker 02

  No, I'm sorry.

• 19:24Jessie Ware?

  I'm also obsessed with following Broadway singers.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  Are you?

• 19:28Jessie Ware?

  And what they pack.

• 19:29Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 19:30Jessie Ware?

  So loads of hydration sachets. I'm obsessed with a hydration sachet.

• 19:34Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 19:34Jessie Ware?

  Um, what else am I doing? Yeah, like.

• 19:36Speaker 02

  The little steam pods for the shower.

• 19:39Jessie Ware?

  What?

• 19:40Speaker 02

  Yes, they're these like eucalyptus pods that you put in the shower and then like you inhale those. That's amazing.

• 19:47Jessie Ware?

  Really? Would you do that poster show?

• 19:49Speaker 02

  I do it before and after a show. And I also do like a, a cooldown, a vocal cooldown.

• 19:55Jessie Ware?

  Agreed, me too.

• 19:56Speaker 02

  The lyrics is like just dancing so high up and then I just like to do.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  Like just to bring it back down.

• 20:04Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, it's all kind of like. This is like vocal limping.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 20:08Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 20:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:13Jessie Ware?

  I know, it it but it's like.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  Clearly fun going backstage.

• 20:16Jessie Ware?

  Yes, really.

• 20:16Speaker 02

  I know, but by the way, my friends will come with me after I've done with the show and I'm they're like, you wanna take some.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  It's like so strange, but it is, it's great and it's worth it and it shows that like we still have a respect for it.

• 20:33Jessie Ware?

  Oh, my god, totally.

• 20:34Speaker 02

  So even though like I I love these o- other artists that you're talking about, but like we've wanted to preserve our voice, like it really is a priority.

• 20:44Jessie Ware?

  Absolutely, and then I meet Shaka Khan who came on this.

• 20:47Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh, she makes it look so easy.

• 20:49Jessie Ware?

  But also, she first time I met her, she had a fag in her mouth like that. And she's going like that and I'm like there with my vocal coach looking really uncool like, hi, you're really big inspiration for me. Hi, and she's literally like. For the what? But yeah, she's like, literally, you gotta go. So I'm like, you know, she can do it like that.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  It's just nothing. She she also uses baby oil on her face.

• 21:12Jessie Ware?

  She won't be the Olay ambassador.

• 21:15Jessie Ware?

  But she's great.

• 21:15Speaker 01

  Her skin is amazing.

• 21:17Speaker 02

  Her skin is great, but that shocked me too, the first time I saw her do that. She's like, oh, baby, yes, you come into the show, yes, that's great, that's great, here we go. And then she gets to the stage. To the limit of woman. And she hits it and it's so easy, I'll go.

• 21:34Jessie Ware?

  And the clarity, I know.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  Oh, like, how did you just do that?

• 21:38Speaker 01

  Jessie's Sosaria Evora smoked on stage.

• 21:41Jessie Ware?

  I mean, I'm sure Billie Holiday did too, but like.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  But it must be like a a muscle memory.

• 21:48Jessie Ware?

  Right?

• 21:49Speaker 02

  It's a muscle memory.

• 21:50Speaker 01

  Should I get some food going?

• 21:52Jessie Ware?

  Whilst mum makes some of the food, we're having something very healthy, light.

• 21:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 21:57Jessie Ware?

  It's a chicken salad.

• 21:58Speaker 02

  Love.

• 21:59Jessie Ware?

  With peach and kind of mint.

• 22:01Speaker 02

  Oh, and peaches.

• 22:02Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, so it's light.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 22:04Jessie Ware?

  Juicy, delicious.

• 22:05Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 22:06Jessie Ware?

  Because, you know, it's a weird time of the day and I'm sure you've probably got plans later and you don't know what time, I mean, what time is it for you now?

• 22:12Speaker 02

  I don't even know, it doesn't even matter.

• 22:14Jessie Ware?

  You're so professional.

• 22:15Speaker 02

  It doesn't even matter.

• 22:17Jessie Ware?

  You're such a pro.

• 22:18Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 22:18Speaker 01

  I'm excited, chicken and peaches?

• 22:20Jessie Ware?

  It will be delicious.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  Okay, I believe you.

• 22:22Jessie Ware?

  Cause it's this um brilliant chef called Nigel Slater, who is one of our gods here, so yeah. And so whilst you're in London, doing the voice, being an Olay ambassador, um congratulations on that.

• 22:35Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 22:35Jessie Ware?

  That's like a new big thing.

• 22:36Speaker 02

  It's very cool, yes.

• 22:38Jessie Ware?

  It's gorgeous.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 22:39Jessie Ware?

  Um, can you tell me about your skin regime, actually, like, what do we, cause like, what's your um morning and evening routine?

• 22:46Speaker 02

  Morning and evening routine is definitely like my Olay Super Ser.

• 22:50Jessie Ware?

  Of course.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Uh, or Super Wash.

• 22:52Jessie Ware?

  So you start with the wash?

• 22:54Speaker 02

  Oh, definitely start with the wash in the morning. Um, so I start with the wash in the morning. Um, I do my serum, my super serum.

• 23:01Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 23:02Speaker 02

  I do my cream and what else do I do? I like a nice little like rose water spray.

• 23:07Jessie Ware?

  Or me too.

• 23:08Speaker 02

  As well.

• 23:08Jessie Ware?

  Gorgeous.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's very similar to the evening time, yeah. Wow, this is beautiful.

• 23:15Jessie Ware?

  Mum, this looks delicious, it smells amazing, what is it?

• 23:18Speaker 01

  It's chicken with peaches and mint and basil and a kind of chili spring oniony sauce.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 23:28Speaker 01

  Just help yourself, please.

• 23:29Jessie Ware?

  Would you like to help yourself or shall I?

• 23:32Speaker 02

  E- either or.

• 23:33Jessie Ware?

  Well, I cannot.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  She can help herself, darling.

• 23:35Speaker 02

  It's all right, it's all right.

• 23:36Jessie Ware?

  You you help yourself, cause I'll overface you.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  This happens as well in there.

• 23:39Jessie Ware?

  And start thinking about your last supper.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  My last supper?

• 23:43Jessie Ware?

  You're going to a desert island for a very, very long time.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  For very, very long.

• 23:47Speaker 01

  And did you get any chicken there?

• 23:48Speaker 02

  No, I'm about to get me some chicken right now.

• 23:50Jessie Ware?

  And you have a starter, a main, a dessert and a drink of choice.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 23:57Jessie Ware?

  So have a think.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 24:00Jessie Ware?

  You can have some.

• 24:00Speaker 02

  A drink of choice?

• 24:01Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, well, drinks, you can do drinks if you want. Some people have done full days of food, so you know.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  Days?

• 24:07Jessie Ware?

  You know, you've got artistic license, do whatever you like. Just do whatever you want.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Don't call me a piglet, okay, but.

• 24:13Jessie Ware?

  No.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  What are you talking about? I can actually eat.

• 24:16Jessie Ware?

  It's good.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 24:18Jessie Ware?

  Good.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  That's delicious.

• 24:22Speaker 01

  It's a good salad.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. It's so great when the salad is so good, I'm slightly dancing now. That's so good.

• 24:30Speaker 01

  You're so sweet.

• 24:31Jessie Ware?

  I'm gonna, I am gonna need that last supper off you, babe.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Okay, last supper, okay, last supper.

• 24:36Jessie Ware?

  Starter, main, pudding, drink of choice.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Last supper. We'll start with, I do love a Greek salad.

• 24:46Jessie Ware?

  Okay, what what's in the salad?

• 24:48Speaker 02

  Um, I'm gonna say a Greek salad.

• 24:52Jessie Ware?

  Okay, delicious.

• 24:53Speaker 02

  I love a Greek salad, like I can eat it all day, every day.

• 24:57Jessie Ware?

  Have you hol- have you holidayed in Greece?

• 25:00Speaker 02

  I need to.

• 25:00Jessie Ware?

  Oh, you do?

• 25:02Speaker 02

  I've only done it um maybe once or twice, but I need to.

• 25:07Jessie Ware?

  By the last, by the two weeks in, you're like, I think I don't need the Greek salad today.

• 25:13Speaker 02

  I don't know, I I've literally eaten Greek salad for like days at a time. Um, let's see, what else? For my main.

• 25:24Speaker 02

  Here's the truth. I really love a good burger.

• 25:27Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, great.

• 25:29Speaker 02

  Like a cheeseburger.

• 25:30Jessie Ware?

  But where are you getting your burger from?

• 25:32Speaker 01

  Not In-N-Out.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  No, no, no, I didn't know, ma'am, not In-N-Out, but it would be.

• 25:37Jessie Ware?

  Can I get you some water?

• 25:39Speaker 02

  Oh, no, I'm fine, I promise, yeah, I've drank so much water.

• 25:41Jessie Ware?

  Fine, okay, you're like, okay, fine.

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Um, I'm gonna say, I went to a friend of mine's house.

• 25:48Jessie Ware?

  Mm hmm.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  And their chef made the most exquisite burger I've ever ever had in my life.

• 25:54Jessie Ware?

  What was so good about it?

• 25:56Speaker 02

  It was juicy, it had, it was like cooked to perfection, like the middle was like not raw, but.

• 26:05Jessie Ware?

  Pink?

• 26:05Speaker 02

  Yes, ma'am, and it was the most beautiful piece of lettuce on there, the most beautiful tomato. The onions were caramelized, the butter, the bread, the bun was buttered, it was like a fresh brioche loaf that they'd made, it was crazy. And the cheese was gouda.

• 26:23Jessie Ware?

  I love gouda.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  Oh, and it was like a spicy something at the bottom, I had just just the right amount of ketchup and the most perfect amount of mustard. And I took one bite and just salivated. I was like, oh, my gosh, it was so loud. I was like, did you taste this? Talking to my husband. And it was so good and it was like the most amazing french fries to match.

• 26:49Jessie Ware?

  Who's the chef? Yeah, who's the chef?

• 26:52Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 26:52Jessie Ware?

  Oh, my god, can you can you go back to this friend's house?

• 26:55Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 26:55Jessie Ware?

  And ask for the chef to make this?

• 26:57Speaker 02

  I will ask if they still have the same chef for sure, cause I was like, they made it, I've had it twice.

• 27:03Jessie Ware?

  What, did you say, listen, I'm coming over and I want that burger again?

• 27:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's the second time.

• 27:07Jessie Ware?

  Is it Beyonce's chef?

• 27:09Speaker 02

  No.

• 27:09Jessie Ware?

  Okay, fine.

• 27:12Jessie Ware?

  Um, this sounds great that you can go and require, that's probably quite a good thing, if your friend has a chef.

• 27:20Jessie Ware?

  Then you can say, listen, I loved what he made the other day.

• 27:23Speaker 02

  Yes, can I come back over?

• 27:25Jessie Ware?

  Exactly.

• 27:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:26Jessie Ware?

  Okay, so you're going for that burger?

• 27:28Speaker 02

  Yes, I'm going for that burger.

• 27:30Jessie Ware?

  What are you drinking? What are you drinking?

• 27:32Speaker 02

  So I'm a very simple girl and I recently stopped drinking. I'm going to say, but in my heyday, I was a wine girl. Like a white wine, like a, pardon me, a French Montreux.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  Uh, wine.

• 27:49Jessie Ware?

  It was a French Montr- what?

• 27:51Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't know.

• 27:52Jessie Ware?

  It was delicious.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  Yes, it was delicious, like delicious.

• 27:56Jessie Ware?

  But you stopped drinking, do you feel good for no drink?

• 27:59Speaker 02

  I do, I really do. Somebody like was just breaking it down to me and I was, I just tried to see what a week was like and it was like, oh, I'll go for two weeks, next thing I know, it was like six months and I hadn't had a drink. And I was like, oh, I like this feeling, it works.

• 28:16Jessie Ware?

  Have you found kind of a good substitu- what what what do you drink now, like it when you're out? Are you kind of having a tonic water or are you having? Are you just doing a water, have you found like?

• 28:25Speaker 02

  A mocktail.

• 28:26Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, do you, are you, are you a mocktail girl now?

• 28:28Speaker 02

  Definitely a mocktail girl. Only thing is that has so much sugar, but I'm like, eh, who cares?

• 28:33Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  You know?

• 28:34Jessie Ware?

  Mm hmm.

• 28:36Jessie Ware?

  Okay, so.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 28:38Jessie Ware?

  Are you, have you got a sweet? Oh, you've got a sweet tooth. Really? I've heard about this peach cobbler.

• 28:46Speaker 02

  Peach cobbler is great.

• 28:47Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 28:48Speaker 02

  But when you find the right chocolate cake.

• 28:51Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 28:52Speaker 02

  And it's the perfect amount of sweetness, the perfect amount of saltiness, it's not too sugary.

• 28:59Speaker 02

  I'll have chocolate cake every day if I could.

• 29:01Jessie Ware?

  Really?

• 29:02Speaker 02

  Oh, I.

• 29:02Jessie Ware?

  That just wouldn't be me.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  I love chocolate cake. I love chocolate, period.

• 29:07Jessie Ware?

  Is it on, is it like, so if you sit on the menu, you're getting it? Anything with chocolate and the desserts, you're getting it?

• 29:14Speaker 02

  Yes. I actually get a couple of desserts.

• 29:18Jessie Ware?

  I love that.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  I get a couple.

• 29:19Jessie Ware?

  You've got to have an opinion.

• 29:20Speaker 02

  I wanna taste them.

• 29:21Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, I agree.

• 29:22Speaker 01

  I used to like it when there was a trolley and you could choose.

• 29:26Jessie Ware?

  Mm hmm.

• 29:26Speaker 01

  You don't get that anymore.

• 29:28Speaker 02

  You don't?

• 29:29Speaker 01

  No.

• 29:30Speaker 02

  Sometimes do.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  Where?

• 29:31Speaker 02

  Not old fashioned places.

• 29:35Jessie Ware?

  Bring back the trolley.

• 29:37Speaker 02

  I know, bring back the tr- bring back the trolley.

• 29:40Jessie Ware?

  So have you um ever made a good chocolate cake?

• 29:44Speaker 02

  No.

• 29:46Jessie Ware?

  You should find a good recipe and then you can do it for birthday cakes.

• 29:49Speaker 02

  I should. For the first, I told my husband, it was a while back, this woman used to make chocolate cake. And she used to charge an obscene amount for chocolate cake, and it was the most I've ever paid for a cake. And it was just a simple thing. Yes.

• 30:07Jessie Ware?

  How did you find out about this chocolate cake?

• 30:09Speaker 02

  She just made it um at a party or some uh something, and I'll never forget. I just wanted another one and I had my assistant at the time call her and ask her to make the cake. And when she told her how much it was, I was like, you have got to be kidding me, I'm not doing that. Ten minutes later, I said, call her, I'm just gonna get the cake. It was ridiculous.

• 30:31Jessie Ware?

  Do you think she raised the prices because she knew how much you wanted that cake?

• 30:35Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 30:36Speaker 01

  What do you as a family do for celebrations like birthdays? Do you go out for dinner? Do you have dinner at home? Do you have a party?

• 30:45Speaker 02

  We do both.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  Right.

• 30:47Speaker 02

  We go out to dinner.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  And what's your kid's favourite? Chinese?

• 30:51Speaker 02

  Titan loves sushi.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  Sushi, everyone likes sushi children now.

• 30:56Speaker 02

  Love sushi. So he loves sushi and Noah loves pasta. And he said, what did he recently say? He said, I love pasta. And he loves steak.

• 31:10Jessie Ware?

  Is this the five year old?

• 31:11Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 31:12Jessie Ware?

  Okay, Noah.

• 31:13Speaker 02

  Five year old loves steak.

• 31:14Jessie Ware?

  For the mature palate.

• 31:15Speaker 02

  I know, and.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, Titan loves sushi, but he loves to go to Omakase and just let, like, they just bring him.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  Not like where it goes round. Do they have that in the States, yo s- yo sushi?

• 31:32Speaker 02

  I don't think we do.

• 31:34Speaker 01

  So we have it here and it's on a big kind of turntable and it just keeps going round and you pull a dish off.

• 31:41Speaker 02

  Didn't it used to be at like Harrods or something like that? Is it still there?

• 31:46Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 31:46Jessie Ware?

  No, I don't think so. I wanna know about, you say you've got this fond memories of being in London. You were here as a teenager. Are there any memorable meals from those early times in London?

• 32:03Speaker 02

  Yes, it was the first time I tried sushi.

• 32:05Jessie Ware?

  Oh, really?

• 32:06Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm, we went to Nobu, what's the one?

• 32:08Jessie Ware?

  Park Lane.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  It was the very first time we tried sushi and I remember I was kinda like the one who would try everything in the group. And so we were so nervous, you know, we're like some country girls, we like, we know, we like our food cooked. So we get in there and so we're sitting down and the label is ordering all this food in. And so next thing we knew, like, the yellowtail comes to the table and the girls look at me and they're waiting to, for me to give them the nod to try it. And sure enough, like, I tasted it, it was delicious, I was like, and so everybody tries it. So it, we, we did it like that, that's, that was my first experience with sushi, but it was so great. So you start here with sushi, so everything else is gonna have a really tough time.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  That was delicious.

• 32:59Jessie Ware?

  Oh, good. Do you wanna mop up a bit, you okay?

• 33:02Speaker 02

  No, that was so good.

• 33:03Jessie Ware?

  Well, we have some cake for you as well, so in case you need it, but it's not chocolate, but it looks delicious.

• 33:07Speaker 01

  You've even told me I'd have made chocolate.

• 33:09Jessie Ware?

  Do you want a cup of tea?

• 33:10Speaker 02

  A cup of tea sounds delightful.

• 33:12Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:13Jessie Ware?

  How do you take your cup of tea?

• 33:15Speaker 02

  Just plain honey.

• 33:17Jessie Ware?

  Oh, okay, black.

• 33:18Speaker 02

  What kind of tea do you have?

• 33:19Jessie Ware?

  Just English breakfast.

• 33:21Speaker 02

  Oh, no worries.

• 33:23Speaker 01

  You don't like it, what do you like? What do you like then?

• 33:27Speaker 02

  Just mint.

• 33:29Jessie Ware?

  Mint, mint.

• 33:29Speaker 02

  We could do a little fresh mint for you.

• 33:31Speaker 01

  I've got fresh mint there, so you can have fresh mint with water.

• 33:34Jessie Ware?

  Okay, cheaper.

• 33:39Speaker 02

  I have tried English breakfast tea so many times. I have really tried.

• 33:53Jessie Ware?

  Mum, that looks amazing. What is it?

• 33:56Speaker 01

  It's called a raspberry poke cake, which is popular in America apparently.

• 34:01Jessie Ware?

  Okay. Do you know about poke cake?

• 34:03Speaker 02

  No, but you poke it and then you put the raspberries.

• 34:06Jessie Ware?

  You knew.

• 34:07Speaker 02

  Well, it's, I'm like, I'm trying to.

• 34:12Jessie Ware?

  I, I didn't know, I thought she was saying pokey and I was like.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  There's fresh mint in there, so let's hope it works.

• 34:20Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 34:20Jessie Ware?

  It looks great, mum.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  It does.

• 34:22Jessie Ware?

  Let's hope. So tell me about this fried peach cobbler that I've heard you love. Is it a fried peach cobbler?

• 34:28Speaker 02

  So my mom used to um.

• 34:33Speaker 02

  Make these little fried peach cobblers. And I don't know how she made them, I actually have a recipe book that she left me. And it's got all of that in there, but I've yet to make it. I don't know why, I should.

• 34:47Jessie Ware?

  Now, I follow Tina on Instagram and you're like, Beyonce's mum, um, uh, Tina Knowles. But she talks, you are like her honorary daughter, she is always so proud of you. Is Tina a good cook?

• 35:01Speaker 02

  Is she a good cook?

• 35:02Jessie Ware?

  I can imagine.

• 35:04Speaker 02

  I can't even begin to tell you, the dishes that she makes are just mouthwatering.

• 35:11Jessie Ware?

  So not only is she the most glamorous woman.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  I know, but she can make.

• 35:15Jessie Ware?

  She can cook.

• 35:15Speaker 02

  Bomb, bomb, greens, thank you, bomb, macaroni, she actually makes truffle mac and cheese. It's delicious. Um, her, anytime she could, thank you so much, any meat, it's falling off the bone. Like, she used to make turkey and the turkey would be so flavorful. Whatever she would poke inside of the turkey was, it was just so juicy. Her gumbo is delicious, she can cook.

• 35:41Jessie Ware?

  Okay, I presume that, but I just needed to know.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, she can cook.

• 35:45Jessie Ware?

  So, so we know your playlist, we know what you're gonna play, we know what you're gonna cook for us, we know. Actually, you didn't get back to the baked salmon. What is the baked salmon that you're going to finesse? What are you eating? How are you doing the baked salmon at the moment?

• 36:00Speaker 02

  The baked salmon is, so there's this seasoning, I go to the farmer's market religiously.

• 36:07Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  And there's this couple there and they sell this particular seasoning, it's called Cappy's. And it's delicious.

• 36:15Jessie Ware?

  What is it?

• 36:16Speaker 02

  It's some, some seasoning that they have made and I love it so much and that's all I need on my salmon. And then I put a little bit of butter on there, put a little bit of lemon on there, cover it and cook it for a bit. And then take it out, take off the foil and then let it like broil just a little bit at the top.

• 36:40Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 36:40Speaker 02

  And it's so good.

• 36:42Jessie Ware?

  It sounds great. I think you sound like you know what you're doing.

• 36:45Speaker 02

  I'm trying.

• 36:45Jessie Ware?

  And what are you gonna serve it with?

• 36:47Speaker 02

  Probably spinach, mashed potatoes.

• 36:51Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 36:52Speaker 02

  Or for me, whipped sweet potatoes.

• 36:54Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I can't do potatoes unless like, I'm staying inside.

• 37:00Jessie Ware?

  Of what? Because?

• 37:01Speaker 02

  My, it doesn't, my tummy doesn't like it.

• 37:03Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 37:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:05Jessie Ware?

  Now, whilst you're in London, is there anywhere you wanna eat? Are you going back to Nobu? Is there anywhere else you wanna try?

• 37:11Speaker 02

  Caribbean spots.

• 37:13Jessie Ware?

  Okay. Do you know any Caribbean spots?

• 37:16Speaker 02

  My team, my team does.

• 37:18Jessie Ware?

  Okay, great. And what's your order there?

• 37:21Speaker 02

  It's either oxtail, curry chicken.

• 37:24Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 37:25Speaker 02

  Or jerk chicken.

• 37:26Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 37:26Speaker 02

  And rice and peas.

• 37:28Jessie Ware?

  Thank you.

• 37:29Speaker 01

  You've got to come to Brixton.

• 37:31Jessie Ware?

  Brixton's pretty good.

• 37:33Speaker 01

  We're really near Brixton.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  Are we?

• 37:35Jessie Ware?

  You could just get a little Caribbean off, you could get a little on the way home.

• 37:39Speaker 02

  Well, we drive to Manchester tonight.

• 37:41Jessie Ware?

  Shut up.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 37:44Jessie Ware?

  No, babe.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, it's all right.

• 37:47Jessie Ware?

  So you go to Manchester, what, and film The Voice?

• 37:50Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 37:50Jessie Ware?

  Manchester's great.

• 37:51Speaker 01

  Where they're filming it?

• 37:52Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 37:53Speaker 01

  So are these the beginning ones?

• 37:55Jessie Ware?

  Yes, ma'am.

• 37:56Speaker 01

  Oh, so this is where you don't see them?

• 37:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:59Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  The blinds.

• 38:01Speaker 01

  Um, the blind.

• 38:02Speaker 02

  The blind.

• 38:03Jessie Ware?

  Now, forgive us, because we did just want to ask you, and actually, this is the season opener for season nineteen of Table manners.

• 38:10Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 38:11Jessie Ware?

  I know. So because we're, we're trying out new things, it's a fresh season. And your song Dilemma, we're like, okay, what would be your greatest food dilemma?

• 38:23Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 38:24Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  If I had to choose.

• 38:25Jessie Ware?

  She's got it straight away.

• 38:27Speaker 02

  For sure. If I had to choose between a hot dog and a hamburger.

• 38:30Jessie Ware?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  I know that sounds crazy, but.

• 38:33Jessie Ware?

  Eat both.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  Because, so my Mama T definitely is like, you know, you can't eat hot dogs. It's a carcinogen.

• 38:42Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 38:43Speaker 02

  And I'm like, so.

• 38:47Speaker 02

  But I only have it like for the Fourth of July every year, right? It's the one time I have it. And sometimes I might sneak one in at the end of the year, right? So that's just twice Mama T. I love it. But it's so good. I love a good chili cheese hot dog with onions, a little bit of sauerkraut, some ketchup, some mustard, and maybe some jalapicled jalapenos on the top.

• 39:13Speaker 01

  You need to go and live in Austria. You'll be, you'll be away there, sauerkraut and hot dogs.

• 39:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's so good. So making me choose between that and a cheeseburger?

• 39:24Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I understand.

• 39:25Speaker 02

  That's very hard. Thank you so much for like starting this off with such enthusiasm.

• 39:31Jessie Ware?

  Enthusiasm. I think that will stick.

• 39:33Speaker 01

  Do you know what? I've never had a corn dog till.

• 39:36Jessie Ware?

  What is it?

• 39:37Speaker 01

  Well, exactly. It's basically a hot dog.

• 39:40Jessie Ware?

  Has it got any meat in it?

• 39:42Speaker 01

  Got um corn, kind of crispy, crunchy bit on the outside. Yeah, but you really don't know what's inside or what's going on, do you? The one where I ate at some bar on Hillhurst when I went to watch the football. It was like a real dive.

• 39:57Jessie Ware?

  Lenny's in a dive bar, having a corn dog, eating, watching the Premier League.

• 40:01Speaker 01

  Eating, um, no, it was the World Cup. So I went to watch England and the corn dog, I'm really wasn't confident what I was eating.

• 40:08Jessie Ware?

  Was it delicious?

• 40:09Speaker 01

  No.

• 40:10Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  It was quite hard.

• 40:12Jessie Ware?

  Mm hmm.

• 40:13Speaker 01

  On the outside, so it wasn't that clean.

• 40:15Jessie Ware?

  Crispy onions or do you want caramelized onions?

• 40:18Speaker 02

  Both.

• 40:19Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 40:20Jessie Ware?

  You're my kinda gal.

• 40:21Speaker 02

  And I'd probably throw some raw ones on there too.

• 40:23Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 40:24Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 40:25Jessie Ware?

  So you're like an everything gal?

• 40:27Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 40:27Jessie Ware?

  Like, is that, does that go to, like, when you're having an ice cream? Do you want all the different, like, sundae sprinkles?

• 40:33Speaker 02

  Yes. No, no, no, no. I like to keep ice cream clean.

• 40:36Jessie Ware?

  Okay. What's your ice cream flavor?

• 40:39Speaker 02

  Chocolate.

• 40:42Speaker 02

  I love chocolate, but you know what I really love right now? There's um a place in L A called McConnell's. And their ice cream.

• 40:51Jessie Ware?

  I've had McConnell's.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  Is it not so good? But they have a sea salt cookies and cream.

• 40:57Speaker 02

  It's so good.

• 40:58Jessie Ware?

  Where, where, whereabouts is it?

• 41:00Speaker 02

  In the valley.

• 41:00Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  In the valley, like, right there off of, like, Laurel Canyon.

• 41:04Jessie Ware?

  Okay, gorgeous. I'll try it.

• 41:06Speaker 02

  Delicious.

• 41:07Jessie Ware?

  Okay, fab. Cone or cup?

• 41:10Speaker 02

  Both.

• 41:12Jessie Ware?

  Yes. Yes, Kelly Rowland, yes.

• 41:15Speaker 01

  But I, but what I can't get over about L A is how people queue up outside, or make lines.

• 41:21Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 41:22Speaker 01

  For coffee, for ice cream, for anything.

• 41:24Speaker 02

  Those are the, like, popular spots. But no, it's tricky because you don't know, like, what is what. Because sometimes these places, like, hire other people to come in.

• 41:33Jessie Ware?

  I know. The TikTok ones is, I know.

• 41:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, because where were we when we were in New York and everyone was queuing outside for Kim Kardashian's cupcakes?

• 41:43Jessie Ware?

  Well.

• 41:43Speaker 01

  What was it? Crumble cookies?

• 41:46Jessie Ware?

  It was a Kim Kardashian crumble collaboration.

• 41:49Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 41:50Jessie Ware?

  Fine.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  I mean, could have been a delicious crumble.

• 41:53Jessie Ware?

  Absolutely.

• 41:53Speaker 01

  Do you think you'll ever perform again as Destiny's Child?

• 42:00Speaker 01

  No, as Destiny's Child. Do you think you'll get together, like a Spice Girls reunion?

• 42:05Jessie Ware?

  That isn't happening. They just dropped a box set instead and everyone thought they were doing a reunion.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 42:09Speaker 02

  Oh, it hasn't been anything we talked about.

• 42:12Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 42:12Speaker 02

  And I was just with the girls and we have a great time talking and our children are all together and.

• 42:20Speaker 01

  Are you all best friends still? Yeah.

• 42:22Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 42:23Speaker 01

  But you were best friends before you were in the group, weren't you, virtually? Yeah.

• 42:26Jessie Ware?

  I really am annoyed that I didn't see Michelle in Death Becomes Her.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  Oh, she was amazing. She was amazing.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  Who's this?

• 42:35Jessie Ware?

  Michelle in Destiny's Child. She did, Death Becomes Her on Broadway and, I mean, these two went to see it and adored it.

• 42:43Speaker 02

  Incredible. Like, she opens the show.

• 42:46Jessie Ware?

  Would you do theatre? Have you?

• 42:48Speaker 02

  I always tell Michelle, Michelle is, she keeps trying to push me in the theatre and it depends on the role.

• 42:54Jessie Ware?

  Okay, what role would you?

• 42:56Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 42:57Jessie Ware?

  Do you think you can act?

• 42:59Speaker 02

  I do love acting. I do love acting.

• 43:02Jessie Ware?

  Well, then you should do it, right?

• 43:03Speaker 02

  I did a film last year that came out this year on Amazon Prime. Um, it was uh myself and Method Man.

• 43:11Jessie Ware?

  Okay, no big deal.

• 43:13Speaker 02

  It was a rom-com. It was really cute.

• 43:14Jessie Ware?

  Was he good as a rom-com?

• 43:16Speaker 02

  He's fantastic as an actor.

• 43:20Jessie Ware?

  And a, a, a very famous rapper. Okay, I know nothing about rapping.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  She is correct.

• 43:30Jessie Ware?

  Um, I also need to know about David Guetta. That, When Love Takes Over is a phenomenal song.

• 43:40Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 43:40Jessie Ware?

  How was the experience work? Did you get to work with it or did you do it remotely?

• 43:45Speaker 02

  So I met David before I went to um Ibiza. Was it before I went to, I can't look, gosh, where were we? In the south of France, in the south of France. And um he played this track for me and it was absolutely incredible. And so.

• 44:01Jessie Ware?

  Was it undeniable?

• 44:03Speaker 02

  Undeniable.

• 44:04Jessie Ware?

  Who wrote it?

• 44:05Speaker 02

  Myself and Mimi Liv.

• 44:07Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 44:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, and so we um, uh, I just talked to them about how my summer went. Like how I would go and spend the most amazing time um out, dancing and wouldn't come home till the sun was coming up. And it was just some of the most beautiful memories of my life and we wrote about it. And they are like the easiest to write with. Like, I love that writing experience with them. I still smell the space in which we were writing. I remember us bouncing off of each other like we were playing tennis with words. It was so fun. They're awesome.

• 44:41Jessie Ware?

  Sometimes it's the easiest thing in the world. Sometimes it's painful.

• 44:46Speaker 02

  Yes, and you're like pulling words out of your teeth. Like, it's really tricky, but.

• 44:51Jessie Ware?

  I once met, I once met David Guetta. I was doing Coachella. It was like my first album and they said, David wants to meet you. And I so, I went over to, um, I think it was maybe rent, uh, went to his house.

• 45:03Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 45:04Jessie Ware?

  And met him and his beautiful children who were like young children at that time. And they made scrambled eggs for me. And he wanted to like, and he was talking to me and he was like, so, and I think if I'm being honest, I thought that I was like, you know, more like alternative. So more for me. Um, but anyway, we were chatting and I was kind of there and and he's playing me some songs and I'm like, it's like my first taste of like being in these big mansions and like, he was so lovely. And somebody rang him and went, hey, one minute, I'm just uh with Jesse Jay. And I was like, oh god, does he think he's in the fucking wrong room? I'm not Jesse Jay, fuck. I think it rolls off the tongue.

• 45:43Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 45:44Jessie Ware?

  In a French kind of, it does roll off the tongue. Jesse Jay rolls off the tongue more than Jesse Ware. Bless him. But I was like, I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to be here or not. And then we never wrote together, but.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  No.

• 45:54Jessie Ware?

  No, but I don't think, I think it was an accident, I think, cause like, but it was quite funny.

• 46:00Speaker 02

  But have you spoken to him since?

• 46:02Jessie Ware?

  No.

• 46:03Speaker 02

  You should.

• 46:04Jessie Ware?

  No, maybe. Yes, you should. No, he's wonderful.

• 46:08Speaker 02

  But it did make me laugh. You know, me, like, fuck.

• 46:11Speaker 01

  Got the wrong Jesse.

• 46:12Speaker 02

  No, no, you're supposed to let him know.

• 46:16Jessie Ware?

  Before we let you go, and you travel to Manchester, which we love, Manchester has a heart, mum's from Manchester.

• 46:22Speaker 02

  Ew.

• 46:23Jessie Ware?

  It's probably gonna rain up there, so you need to get your coats ready.

• 46:27Speaker 02

  Fine.

• 46:27Speaker 01

  She'll be okay. You'll be okay.

• 46:30Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 46:30Jessie Ware?

  Probably stay in the Lowry and it's gorgeous.

• 46:32Speaker 02

  So pretty today. It was beautiful today. I was like, is this what I'm getting?

• 46:36Speaker 01

  Are you staying somewhere? Are you staying in an apartment or a hotel? Yeah, the hotels are really lovely up there now.

• 46:44Speaker 01

  Everyone's warm, yeah.

• 46:46Jessie Ware?

  Um, just a few more questions.

• 46:48Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  I wanted to know, what's your worst table manner in somebody else? What thing?

• 46:54Speaker 02

  Worst table man?

• 46:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, if you see someone doing it, you think, gosh.

• 46:59Speaker 02

  I was stuffing their mouth.

• 47:02Speaker 01

  Oh god, I think we all did that today.

• 47:04Speaker 02

  That, I did that for sure. I'm so sorry. And I did the, like, the moment you get the last bit of food in your mouth. But the one that really bothers me.

• 47:12Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 47:13Speaker 02

  Is probably a burp. My son does that. It's fine.

• 47:18Speaker 01

  At the table?

• 47:19Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 47:20Jessie Ware?

  But is he proud of his burps?

• 47:22Speaker 02

  And he only does it at home.

• 47:24Jessie Ware?

  Okay, so you, I, I have no doubt that your kids have got very good table manners.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  I mean, we're working on it. They're just eleven and five, but Titan thinks it's really funny when he burps. But he also found a video of me burping. At um an MTV something back in the day. And he was like, mom, you didn't tell me you had this. And then he pulls it up and I'm just letting it rip. Like, I was like, what was wrong with me? Why was I doing that?

• 47:56Speaker 01

  Why was your mother?

• 47:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, right. So, yeah, so now he thinks it's funny, but we're, we're working on it.

• 48:03Jessie Ware?

  How, how is that for, you know, he's eleven and he's finding clips of you from like the early noughties, right?

• 48:10Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 48:10Jessie Ware?

  Like, there's so much footage of Destiny's Child and Kelly Rowland's solo career. Like, how does he react to it? Is he enjoying it or is he like, mum, why are we wearing that? Like, or like, is he quite celebratory of it? My kids are the least impressed.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  We were in the waterfall in Jamaica and you did the.

• 48:30Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I did Survivor and yeah, Dunn's River, yeah.

• 48:33Speaker 01

  We're in Dunn's River and Jesse sings.

• 48:36Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 48:39Jessie Ware?

  It was great. It was a great moment for me. Um, oh, you're so sweet. Um, but yeah, how's your, how is your eleven year old kind of?

• 48:47Speaker 02

  He doesn't really trip out of it, to be honest. That one video with me burping, that's the one that he was just like, he was proud. He was so proud. And um I think when, when Noah comes across something, he just kind of says, it's you. Look, it's you. But that's about it.

• 49:07Speaker 01

  What kind of weird combination do you put together that's so weird, but it works somehow?

• 49:14Speaker 02

  Ice cream and french fries.

• 49:16Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 49:18Speaker 02

  Delicious.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  Did you dip them in then?

• 49:21Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 49:22Speaker 01

  Oh, my goodness.

• 49:23Speaker 02

  Waffle fries. My god.

• 49:25Jessie Ware?

  Oh my god.

• 49:27Speaker 02

  Waffle fries dipped in vanilla ice cream.

• 49:30Jessie Ware?

  Are you making, are they leftover waffle fries from the burger and chips that you're having? Or are you putting them on for your ice cream?

• 49:38Speaker 02

  Putting them on for my ice cream.

• 49:41Jessie Ware?

  Was this like a pregnancy craving that you had and then it stuck?

• 49:44Speaker 02

  No, my mom, my mom put me onto it. When I was a kid and we would go to uh this restaurant uh with that had chicken sandwiches and it made really good waffle fries. And so we got the waffle fries and she would just dip it in the um ice cream. And I was like, what are you doing? She said, taste it. And the salty with the sweet.

• 50:09Jessie Ware?

  Oh my goodness.

• 50:12Jessie Ware?

  We've got a good one to try. We're gonna try all the things.

• 50:14Speaker 01

  We we definitely, we we went to a restaurant and we had caviar on ice cream.

• 50:20Speaker 02

  Is that not so good?

• 50:22Speaker 01

  Have you had it before?

• 50:23Speaker 02

  Yes, you know what else is good? Olive oil.

• 50:26Jessie Ware?

  Yes, delicious.

• 50:28Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 50:28Speaker 02

  So, absolutely. And and chocolate ice cream and olive oil with a little bit of, what? With a little bit of sea salt?

• 50:37Speaker 01

  It kind of tastes a bit like Butter Kiss, doesn't it? Kind of buttery.

• 50:41Jessie Ware?

  It feels good for you.

• 50:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:43Jessie Ware?

  Um, before we let you go, can you give us a nostalgic taste that can transport you back somewhere?

• 50:49Speaker 02

  A nostalgic taste?

• 50:54Speaker 02

  It would probably have to be those waffle fries with the ice cream, to be honest.

• 50:59Jessie Ware?

  Is it just you and your mum there?

• 51:00Speaker 02

  Yes, I was on the elevator. I almost dropped my fries and my ice cream and I got so nervous. But I remember that feeling and how good it was to share that with her. I loved sharing food with my mom. She was just so enthusiastic about food and it was one of our love languages for sure.

• 51:21Jessie Ware?

  I love that. Kelly Rowland, thank you for being, well, not only a superstar, but like gorgeous and generous and such good fun.

• 51:30Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 51:31Jessie Ware?

  And congra-

• 51:31Speaker 02

  As are you.

• 51:32Jessie Ware?

  No, but congratulations on everything. Um, I'm so excited to carry on seeing you absolutely smacking it.

• 51:39Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 51:39Speaker 01

  And looking fab after no sleep.

• 51:43Speaker 02

  Thank you. And thank you for the salad.

• 51:46Speaker 01

  Such a pleasure.

• 51:47Speaker 02

  You have to tell me the ingredients for the-

• 51:49Speaker 01

  I I'll send it to you. I've got it here. It's on my phone.

• 51:53Speaker 02

  Because it was delicious. I'm recreating that at home.

• 52:10Speaker 01

  Kelly Rowland, she was the most beautiful woman I've ever seen.

• 52:14Jessie Ware?

  Yes, ma'am.

• 52:15Speaker 01

  She was just so gorgeous. Just when she walked in, she actually took my breath away. First of all, the hair, you know I'm into big hair. She had the biggest hair I've ever seen.

• 52:26Jessie Ware?

  But the most luminous, beautiful skin.

• 52:28Speaker 01

  Luminous, radiant skin.

• 52:30Jessie Ware?

  And the woman did a red eye laugh thi- this morning.

• 52:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:33Jessie Ware?

  And she looked like she'd been asleep like for a full week.

• 52:38Speaker 01

  She looked like she'd just come back from holiday.

• 52:40Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  And a smile on her face.

• 52:43Jessie Ware?

  Had seconds.

• 52:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:44Jessie Ware?

  Had an answer for everything.

• 52:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:47Jessie Ware?

  Was so up for it. Just a glorious, glorious guest to start season nineteen.

• 52:53Speaker 01

  The only thing I'm not sure about is chips and ice cream.

• 52:57Jessie Ware?

  No, we're gonna have to try it, mum. We are gonna do this. We're gonna go, you're gonna, you can see little YouTube shorts of mum and I trying things that our guests suggest. So, waffle fries and ice cream. I think that sounds great.

• 53:09Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:10Jessie Ware?

  I'm up for the challenge.

• 53:11Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:12Jessie Ware?

  Maybe you can send us some of your combos and maybe we'll try them out on our YouTube or on the podcast. We'll see. Thank you so much to Kelly Rowland. You know, she's had a really, really busy day, but she was glorious. And sweet and kind and interesting and had a story for everything, just how we like it and had seconds.

• 53:33Speaker 01

  Was glamorous.

• 53:34Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  The outfit. She looked like a doll. She was perfect.

• 53:39Jessie Ware?

  I mean, are we allowed to say she just got in her completes to go to Manchester though? And she still looked divine, even in like in big combat trousers, trainers and a big hoodie. I was like, I wanna be you.

• 53:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. I want to be her too.

• 53:53Jessie Ware?

  You can watch Kelly as the new voice judge in the UK or you can try our new Super Ranger Olay. Um, if it makes me look like her.

• 54:00Speaker 01

  Me too, I'm trying it. I'm in.

• 54:02Jessie Ware?

  Um.

• 54:02Speaker 01

  My mum was right. Oy vule.

• 54:05Jessie Ware?

  We will see you next week for more Table Manners.