#2558 - Tyler Engle

Tyler Engle is a musician, researcher, author, and host of the "BassForge" YouTube channel.www.youtube.com/@BassForge_ushttps://bassforge.us Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Visit https://ketone.com/Rogan for 30% OFF, or find Ketone-IQ at Target nationwide. Use code DRENCHED at https://BlueChew.com to get 10% OFF + Free Overnight Shipping on your first order Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:05Speaker 01

  Training by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

• 0:12Joe Rogan?

  Tyler.

• 0:13Speaker 03

  What's up, dude?

• 0:13Joe Rogan?

  What's happening, brother? Thank you very much for being here. I love your fucking Instagram. You have a rabbit hole of an Instagram, dude. It's so good. Your latest one on Noah's Ark is really fucking interesting because I knew about the scans, but I did not know about the connections to the Sumerian text and how he was referred to on the King's List.

• 0:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 0:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Let's... I send it to you, Jamie, just to start off, just, because I want to really blow up your Instagram, because it's so good, dude.

• 0:43Speaker 03

  Thanks, man.

• 0:43Joe Rogan?

  My pleasure. It's so many times where I'm doom scrolling, I find that, I'm like, oh, I'm learning something. This is justifiable. So this is, um, it's called baseforge.us. That's Tyler's Instagram. And this is all about these new scans. And they dug into it today, I think, today or yesterday.

• 1:06Speaker 03

  It's been two days.

• 1:07Joe Rogan?

  And they think that they hit petrified wood, which is really interesting. This whole thing is very weird, but let's just hit this.

• 1:16Speaker 03

  New scans from Turkey, Mount Ararat, the Noah's Ark location. They got a new little drone out there that's using the same technology that they used to find the Hawara Labyrinth in Egypt recently. Mind you, both of these were not taken seriously by the mainstream. Still skeptical, but the evidence is getting a little overwhelming. Because the earth is not lying. Mount Ararat is almost 17,000 feet high, straddled by two of the saltiest lakes on earth and a dry one to the south. How did it get there? Most people confuse the flood with the Younger Dryas event. That is way too far back in history. The nearby town of Shurupak was buried in 50 feet of mud. That mud was dated very close to the mud that is covering this structure. But Shurupak is very interesting.

• 2:00Speaker 03

  That is where Noah was from. The ancient Sumerians called Noah Zayasudra, the last king on the Sumerian King's List before the flood. These guys were a megalithic culture, meaning they could work really big, really hard rocks. Their temples are so destroyed, there are 10-ton stones just laying out in the middle of nowhere that got thrown off the top of a mountain. But that's very important, because these guys could work really big stones. And right by the site of this ark are these things. What are these things? These are called drog stones. You see the hole in the top of them? You fit a rope or a chain through that. They're anchor stones. They're found in ancient Greek and Roman ports. What they would do is suspend them off of the boat to keep it stable in rocky water or anchored.

• 2:43Speaker 03

  Noah's Ark didn't have a mast or anything to steer it. It was the largest ship ever built and meant only to survive this one event. They'd need to be that big for a ship that large. And those dimensions are exceptionally close to what we see in the ground. I put this site and the temples in Hidden History Free Update, Explore It. Okay, for real, though, how much more evidence do we need? Just dig the thing out.

• 3:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think they are trying to at least slowly excavate that area and figure out what it is. But just the story itself, it seems like, as written, so preposterous that all of the animals on earth were put on, you know, two of each, on a boat. And then the flood came, and then afterwards, they repopulated the earth.

• 3:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:28Joe Rogan?

  It seems like a ridiculous simplification of something that was probably at least somewhat true. Like, I don't think that they had all the animals on the boat, because that doesn't make any sense, there's not enough room, you know, animals eat other animals, there's a lot of... But it does seem like there was some, probably multiple events throughout history, but some sort of an event that they're documenting.

• 3:53Speaker 03

  That one's well documented, actually. The one in Turkey was, uh...

• 3:56Joe Rogan?

  The flood.

• 3:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, 3,000 B.C. or so, I think, was the, around that area, there was multiple. And that's where you see all this, um, like, the Temple of Ione, that whole region there has flood evidence.

• 4:08Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 4:09Speaker 03

  But it's not Younger Dryas flood evidence, you know?

• 4:10Joe Rogan?

  But it's also probably not global.

• 4:12Speaker 03

  It's not, that's what, that's, I think, an important distinction that a lot of these places make is, uh, they have similar stories, but they probably weren't the same day, you know?

• 4:23Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 4:23Speaker 03

  It could have been sequential, like, some event's gonna happen somewhere and cause this, and then another one's gonna happen over here and cause this. But the Mediterranean, that area is very unique, because it's basically surrounded by mountains, right? Like, there's this giant from Iran to all the way to Greece, mountain range, that's gonna protect them.

• 4:40Joe Rogan?

  Right, so how does it have a saltwater lake?

• 4:42Speaker 03

  That's what, so, so, so Lake Van is really interesting, because Lake Van has, like, a volcano, volcanic, um, origin, right? There's a volcano underneath it. And so there's, like, mineral deposits there, but it's one of the saltiest lakes around. You know, the Dead Sea is really close to it as well, so...

• 4:58Joe Rogan?

  What about the Great Salt Lake in Utah?

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Uh, I don't, I think it's a little, I think it's saltier than, it's a soda lake. So, Lake Van is a soda, it's like carbonate. And then, uh, the Great Salt Lake is like pure salt lake, same as the Dead Sea, right? So, those, those are two different distinctions. This is like, this is definitely more of a Randall area than my area, but, but I like, I like mixing these different things in, because all the, all the stories are pointing to the same, you know, that, that same origin, and that's where the Zayasudra thing comes in.

• 5:26Joe Rogan?

  So, most likely, it was probably a semi-local event, like, contained to Turkey, and just their version of the world, what was, what was, what was around them. So when they were, right? You know what I mean? Like, they don't know what's happening in China. How could they? You know, they have no idea what's going on in the Philippines. They're not there.

• 5:44Speaker 03

  And it's wiped out, like, like, your, your whole world is gone.

• 5:47Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 5:47Speaker 03

  If everything you see around you is, is barren wasteland because you got tsunamied, like, the world's over.

• 5:53Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 5:54Speaker 03

  And that's what you're gonna put on the rock.

• 5:55Joe Rogan?

  So the question is, was it a real event? And if it was a real event, how the hell did this Noah guy know it was coming?

• 6:02Speaker 03

  That's...

• 6:03Joe Rogan?

  That's where things get real weird. Because if we, even if it's just a local event, even if it's a local, I mean, by local, I'm talking about, like, the continent, or at least the area of Turkey. So, even if it was a local event, how the hell's this guy know enough that he spends years constructing this boat? This massive boat, the biggest boat that had ever been built at the time?

• 6:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:27Joe Rogan?

  And gets all these animals on it going, we're fucked, in about three years? I gotta get to work, like...

• 6:34Speaker 03

  Accelerate this process.

• 6:35Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't there, who fucking did a movie? Wasn't there, wasn't there a movie recently?

• 6:42Speaker 03

  Noah, the movie?

• 6:42Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't it a Russell Crowe movie?

• 6:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 6:44Joe Rogan?

  That's right. I didn't see that.

• 6:46Speaker 03

  I actually liked it, because they, they get a lot of the lore in there, like, the old, old lore, you know, of the Nephilim and all that stuff?

• 6:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 6:53Speaker 03

  Like, the intro to the movie, yeah, just watch the intro to that thing, if you're, if you're curious, they do this whole backstory on it, it's really cool.

• 6:59Joe Rogan?

  So many things that I used to think were nonsense.

• 7:01Speaker 03

  The Nephilim stuff?

• 7:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and now I'm like, hey.

• 7:04Speaker 03

  Denisovans.

• 7:05Joe Rogan?

  The giant stuff, for sure.

• 7:07Speaker 03

  Giants.

• 7:07Joe Rogan?

  Giants, for sure. I am almost all in on giants.

• 7:11Speaker 03

  I think, I think we're all almost all in there.

• 7:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it just seems like there's too much, there's just too many stories, there's too many tales. I don't know what it means, like, does it mean the mountain from Game of Thrones? You know what I mean? Like, that's a giant, especially compared to me. That guy standing next to me, like, Brian Shaw, do you know Brian Shaw's?

• 7:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:31Joe Rogan?

  Brian Shaw was in The Mothership the other day. He's, uh, 400 fucking pounds, he's like seven feet tall, he's the biggest fucking human you, you've ever seen in your life. His bone structure is so dense that he is one of, I think it's, what, I think there's like five or six people on earth that have the same density of, of bone as this guy? No, it's, it's some insane number, some insane number. It's like, one out of 500 million people have his bone structure.

• 8:03Speaker 03

  Where does that genetic come from? Where, where are we getting that?

• 8:07Joe Rogan?

  But I'm saying, is it that? Is it just exceptional genetics? Like, we have today, we have pygmy tribes, and yet we also have the Maasai, right? So we have these seven-foot-tall people, and we have these three-feet-tall, or four-feet-tall people. So like, what, what are we talking about? Are we talking about a different species of human? Because now we keep finding these new species of human, like the Denisovans.

• 8:30Speaker 03

  You saw the new, the new research on that now?

• 8:32Joe Rogan?

  Yes, yes. They're big as fuck.

• 8:34Speaker 03

  So, like, and...

• 8:35Joe Rogan?

  Tell people about that research.

• 8:37Speaker 03

  If humans were, okay, so they found, uh, I think, a, a complete skeleton, if I'm not mistaken, of the Denisovans, which was...

• 8:43Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they found a complete skeleton.

• 8:45Speaker 03

  It was, it was the more, a more complete one than they had before.

• 8:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think they just have pieces, if I'm correct.

• 8:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't think we have a full one yet, but the, proportionally, like, they are definitely, they were bigger than us.

• 8:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, just the skulls alone.

• 8:57Speaker 03

  The skulls are huge.

• 8:58Joe Rogan?

  The skulls are massive. It's like a Brian Shaw skull.

• 9:02Speaker 03

  Brian's gonna be like, what the?

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• 11:39Speaker 03

  You're right, you're right.

• 11:39Joe Rogan?

  Okay, Denisovens towered over their contemporaries and munched a bunch of meat. Of course, that's how you get so big. So how big do they think they were?

• 11:49Speaker 03

  I thought it was like seven, seven foot something, maybe?

• 11:52Joe Rogan?

  Interesting, right? So, and this is like the ones we've found, right? So like if you only found like my body, you would say, oh, humans, you know, were under like somewhere around five foot eight, five foot seven. Maybe they got to about five foot nine. And then you see Shaq's body. And you go, oh, okay. Well, this is not real.

• 12:12Speaker 03

  Clearly.

• 12:13Joe Rogan?

  What's going on? This is a different species. You would think, like, we only have a small amount of fossilized record, you know, of just human beings. Like, we keep finding these, like the Denisovens, I think they just found them 10 years ago, or less, less than 10 years.

• 12:26Speaker 03

  And they keep getting older, too. That's the thing. Like, it keeps getting pushed back for Homo sapiens, as well as finding new, new versions of them.

• 12:33Joe Rogan?

  Yes. So it says here, Neanderthal men averaged about 168, why are they doing it in centimeters? Why are you fucking with me? Denisovens towered at 190 centimeters. What does that mean, Jamie? What's 190 centimeters?

• 12:46Speaker 03

  Freedom units.

• 12:47Joe Rogan?

  Here, I'll ask my phone. What is 190 centimeters in feet?

• 12:53Speaker 01

  190 centimeters is 6.23 feet. I was right.

• 12:57Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Good job, brother.

• 12:58Speaker 04

  I said 6, too, but that'd be like 6.

• 12:59Joe Rogan?

  So that's pretty big for the time, because people were, it was hard to get food, right? So it's hard to get the protein in order to get, like, people during the Civil War were like 130 pounds, like, men were tiny, because they were starving.

• 13:11Speaker 03

  And medieval, medieval people were a lot smaller.

• 13:13Joe Rogan?

  Yes, a lot smaller. So it was, and it's basically a food thing. So obviously, this is a very big version of a human, especially considering the time that it existed. But was that a giant? Were people all really tiny and they looked at that? Because like, have you ever been to, to Italy and gone to some of the ancient structures and the castles?

• 13:37Speaker 03

  Not Italy, not yet.

• 13:38Joe Rogan?

  Pretty dope. One of the things you notice is the armor's fucking tiny.

• 13:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:43Joe Rogan?

  Tiny.

• 13:44Speaker 03

  Really?

• 13:44Joe Rogan?

  Like tiny.

• 13:45Speaker 03

  I've heard, I've heard these things.

• 13:47Joe Rogan?

  It's weird.

• 13:48Speaker 03

  And how like their, the, the shoes and stuff, they like, it doesn't look like they could fit into the, the proportions of them.

• 13:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're itty bitty people. So when I was there, I think it was a castle that we were at. I went to a bunch of different places. Went, we went to Pompeii, went to Florence. I think it was in Florence. But this armor was like that narrow, like, like super slender and like little, like five foot five-ish, like tiny little dudes. Because I think nobody had any food, man. I think it was hard to get the, the proper protein to, especially if you're a soldier. And you know, you probably come from a poorer class of people. You probably didn't have access to enough food to grow, right?

• 14:28Speaker 03

  Unless you got a lot of those guys, and we kind of...

• 14:30Joe Rogan?

  Well, you got a lot of those guys. And also, they're probably killing a lot of other people that are also similar, small.

• 14:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:36Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 14:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:37Joe Rogan?

  Unless they run into the Vikings.

• 14:38Speaker 03

  Or the, maybe the Egyptians?

• 14:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, maybe the Egyptians, right? Xerxes in the movie. 300, right? So it's, well, he was Persian, actually. But it's like, when, when you hear these stories, particularly the stories of the giants, and then you find out things like Denisovens, you go, okay, so we know that Denisovens existed. And when, when do they think they existed? What, what is the timeline?

• 15:04Speaker 04

  That article said that most bones, I think, are about 160,000, but radiocarbon testing on, I think, the ones that they'd use for this study were maybe 45,000 years.

• 15:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's crazy. Okay, so if they find, let's just think about that. So that's 120,000 years of discrepancy?

• 15:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:25Joe Rogan?

  Right? That's nuts.

• 15:26Speaker 03

  That, that we never interacted with them, too?

• 15:28Joe Rogan?

  Right, for sure we interacted.

• 15:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, we definitely.

• 15:30Joe Rogan?

  100% of their 45,000 or whatever it is. So then you got to think, well, this is only the bones we found, right? If you die, if I die, if Jamie dies, the odds of someone finding our bones somewhere, it's so small. It's like, the, the fossil record of dinosaurs alone, like dinosaurs lived for fucking hundreds of millions of years. And what do we found? Like a few hundred thousand of them?

• 15:53Speaker 03

  We don't even have like a full skeleton on pretty much any of those, like 100% full?

• 15:58Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't think we have any really, we have pretty close ones. We have some really close T-Rex ones, and some, you know, some that are real close. But the bottom line is, the amount that died versus the amount that we find is very small. So easily, that could be the case with people.

• 16:13Speaker 03

  And if you're taking like the...

• 16:14Joe Rogan?

  And dragons.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  And dragons.

• 16:15Joe Rogan?

  And dragons.

• 16:18Speaker 03

  We'll get to dragons later.

• 16:18Joe Rogan?

  Enjoy Behar. We're on it again, honey.

• 16:24Speaker 03

  Keep it rolling.

• 16:26Joe Rogan?

  I fucking never take a dragon believer off my profile. I think that's awesome. He believes in dragons!

• 16:31Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 16:32Joe Rogan?

  Why don't you? Why don't you? Do some research. There's something weird going on where all throughout history, people talk about giants and people talk about dragons.

• 16:40Speaker 03

  Yep. And then, yeah, giants were apparently not real, and now we're finding those. And then Noah's Ark apparently wasn't real, we're finding that. And all this stuff that's just not real and that was legend is now like, oh, yeah, that's obviously right there.

• 16:51Joe Rogan?

  I think very few of those stories were fiction. And I think this is evident when, when they find things like Troy, you know, which Troy was thought to be a fairy tale. It was thought to be fiction forever. And then they're like, oh, we actually found the city. Huh.

• 17:07Speaker 03

  Yeah. Wow.

• 17:10Joe Rogan?

  And also, like, back then, it was so fucking difficult to write a book. You had to write it by hand.

• 17:17Speaker 03

  You had to know how to write.

• 17:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and you had to know how to read. Yeah, nobody knew how to read or write. And then you got to imagine, like, how many people are writing fiction? Who the fuck is reading it? More likely, when you're around back then, it's important to write a detailed history of what has happened, so that your future generations will have, they won't have to learn from scratch.

• 17:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. You want accurate accuracy there. But that's, that's another thing that throws a monkey wrench in the whole Egypt thing, too, is like, hieroglyphs appear fully formed and sophisticated. It's not like there was a, you can see the evolution of that. You start at like Old Kingdom, and it is flawless. It's like engineering language right there. And so where's the?

• 17:58Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 17:59Speaker 03

  How?

• 17:59Joe Rogan?

  How? Where does it start from?

• 18:00Speaker 03

  So it's a group of five dudes over here, like, okay, we're gonna make the cartouche, and we're gonna do this, and the symbol means this. No, it just shows up.

• 18:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, the, the idea that we have a, we have a complete understanding of the past is just, we should just start from there, because that's foolish. And one of the things that you detail so well is some of these temples, and the sound that resonates out of these temples, and some of them that are just carved right into a mountain with incredible precision. And we don't understand how, we don't really know when, it's just kind of guesswork when. And we have no idea what equipment they used, because it's not possible they did that with other rocks.

• 18:41Speaker 03

  No.

• 18:41Joe Rogan?

  So what did they do?

• 18:42Speaker 03

  So that, that, I made a Kailasa temple video a couple of weeks ago, and it was like, that's the one that's in India carved straight out of the mountain, right?

• 18:49Joe Rogan?

  Out of volcanic rock. It is insanely hard.

• 18:53Speaker 03

  I got, I got so much blowback that that was soapstone, or that was this stone. And there's this, there's a YouTube channel called Proto Civilization. They did this experiment where this dude took a pickaxe, hardened steel pickaxe, and they measured how much of volume they could remove from the mountain on, like, behind Kailasa, like, not near the temple. They, they removed like, an area about this big, maybe that deep. They had the scans for it.

• 19:16Joe Rogan?

  So you're, you're like six inches and like a half of...

• 19:19Speaker 03

  Maybe, maybe a half inch deep.

• 19:21Joe Rogan?

  And how long did they work at it?

• 19:22Speaker 03

  Four hours. And these dudes were huge. These dudes were, were gassed out. And it was only a six inch little thing. And they, they were doing the calculations, like, there's no way that the population, even working non-stop, could do that. And then they tried to destroy that temple, and you couldn't destroy the temple with the tools they had. So how did they make it?

• 19:40Joe Rogan?

  Didn't they have guys trying to destroy the temple? What was the timeline that they were trying to destroy the temple? It was like 100 guys for like two years. And they barely scratched it.

• 19:49Speaker 03

  And that's what we still have left. Two years, 100 dudes, non-stop.

• 19:53Joe Rogan?

  And they couldn't get anything done. It's, it's really kind of funny, because it begs the question, what was the technology? And we need to really open our minds to the possibility that there was a civilization that had achieved some sort of a technological sophistication that we don't understand. We don't know what the technology was. We don't know why they had it, what they did with it. But there was something going on, and I think Kailasa is one of the best pieces of evidence. That's like, you know, remember the Arsenio Hall show?

• 20:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:26Joe Rogan?

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• 20:27Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

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• 21:31Speaker 03

  Well, they have, the devil's in the details here. Cause if you look at it, Kailasa is unique. It's in the process of being finished. It's not finished at all. There's satellite temples that are being worked basically from the ground up. And you can see the construction process. It gets a little more detailed at the top. And then at the bottom, you can see the scraping tool marks. There's scrapes and scoops, right? But the scrapes, the penetration depth of the scrape is, is greater than a jackhammer that we have. So a jackhammer, hydraulic one that goes through the rock and, you know, takes it out of the rock wall, does not penetrate as deeply as the marks that are still in Kailasa. So it's something was, and the narrow, it's like, you can, you have to go sideways through it and the marks are there. So they were doing it somehow, like.

• 22:13Joe Rogan?

  In a narrow corridor.

• 22:14Speaker 03

  In a narrow corridor with no light.

• 22:15Joe Rogan?

  Like as narrow as a human body or more narrow?

• 22:17Speaker 03

  It's, it, it goes to a V. Yeah, it goes to a V. So you start, it starts wide, but you see the tool marks going all the way through it.

• 22:24Joe Rogan?

  So do you think that they started wide and then that's how they V'd it out? And then eventually got it parallel?

• 22:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think, I think they, they were probably using a mixture of what we do today with, with it. But I think their tool that they were doing, made it so much easier that the, like, the way that they could just go in there like that looks like it was no problem. It looks like we were just, you know.

• 22:46Joe Rogan?

  That's just so insane to think about. And we are just so egocentric in our position that we are the most sophisticated culture that's ever existed on earth. And I think there's a lot of evidence that that's not true. And the best evidence is the stone. Stonework is the best.

• 23:01Speaker 03

  Hilarious. To me, that's what got me into all of this is like, you know, obviously Graham stuff and a bunch of like this community is, there's a bunch of things that kind of shake your worldview up. But when I started looking into this, they were building the Grand Egyptian Museum and they had to move the statue of Ramses. You know which one I'm talking about?

• 23:18Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 23:18Speaker 03

  The giant one?

• 23:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 23:19Speaker 03

  So if you go to that museum, like the pictures don't do it justice. You're standing and you're looking at his shin. And there's like a pool around it, you know, I almost fell into the pool. But you look at, it's, it's kind of hard to see. But yeah, you're staring at his shin and you look up and you're like, okay. And the cartoon, yeah, that's the one. So you, you barely come up to his shin. And you know Ramses put his, his thing on everything. But like, it's funny that you look at his face and his face, that, that Egyptian face is a very generic face. It doesn't look like Ramses. If you look at Ramses as, as his mummy, it does not look like Ramses. So he did this a lot though. He put his cartoon on literally everything in Egypt.

• 24:00Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 24:01Speaker 03

  But um, it's funny, cause when they moved this, they had to use a enormous truck with huge steel beams to solidify it. Yeah, that's the one. Look at this thing. That's what I said. It's like, okay.

• 24:15Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit.

• 24:16Speaker 03

  Yeah. So.

• 24:17Joe Rogan?

  How many tons is this thing?

• 24:19Speaker 03

  Oh dude, it's crazy. I think it's in 200, it's in, it's out of granite.

• 24:26Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  It's a big boy. 400 tons?

• 24:30Joe Rogan?

  What's that Jimmy?

• 24:30Speaker 04

  It said 83 tons.

• 24:31Speaker 03

  83 tons. So, but you have to assume that, that the block that they had to, to get out of the quarry was at least 200 to, to get, you know, to remove the material around it and stuff. So, but what I'm, what the point is, there had to be a special road, a special trailer, a big truck and all the stuff to move this thing. And that's us now. Now do that in a sand, no sand, or no roads with just sand, putting water on the sand and rolling it on logs from Lebanon that are really not that compressively strong. So like, all of it to my engineering brain was just, was absurd. And so I keep having these things and then like the Lakma stone, the 300 ton boulder they put at the museum, you know, the, the process they went through on a perfectly flat.

• 25:15Speaker 03

  I think Jimmy Corsetti was the one that brought that one up and like, just having those examples is very eye-opening to the, how, what tool, what equipment, what? You know, it's, it, it melts my brain dude. And I went to school for this and I had to, you know, do a lot of these calculations. I worked in construction and I worked in a restoration, building restoration. I've had to do all of these things and you can't move like a boom lift on certain roads because it will cave the road in and those things don't weigh as much as a Ramsey statue.

• 25:45Joe Rogan?

  It's just so weird how these conventional archaeologists will dismiss any ideas that are outside of this linear timeline theory. And that, oh, they were just really smart back then.

• 25:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:59Joe Rogan?

  They, they figured it out with copper tools and sand and this and that, like. It doesn't even make sense. None of it makes sense.

• 26:05Speaker 03

  They say they're really smart, but they also don't believe the mythology or the King's List or anything like that. It's a simultaneous, oh, they were super smart, but this stuff was imaginary. You know, the stuff they put on the walls wasn't real, but how they built it was.

• 26:16Joe Rogan?

  It gets to a certain point where they can't explain it away. And then they go into imagination instead of saying, hey, maybe we don't have a full picture of this. Like me, look, what we can do today is so preposterous that it looks like magic to anybody that lived 200 years ago. We all know that. Like just, I drove here in Tesla. It goes zero to 60 in under two seconds. I press a button, it drives me home.

• 26:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:39Joe Rogan?

  What? Imagine that, explaining that to someone 200 years ago. I left the club last night and I was on the phone with a buddy of mine and I just pressed doot doot and it just takes me home. I don't even have to pay attention.

• 26:54Speaker 03

  You have a global communication device in your pocket.

• 26:56Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 26:56Speaker 03

  Can access all the, all the world's information.

• 26:58Joe Rogan?

  And I'm on the phone with a guy who lives in Connecticut.

• 27:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:01Joe Rogan?

  And we're talking. I mean, the whole thing's crazy. And this is normal.

• 27:04Speaker 03

  Wipe the earth's memory and then you're the only one that has a memory of this civilization. Try and explain that to somebody that doesn't. You'd be, they'd be like, no.

• 27:12Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if you could find this technology 200 years from now after a nuclear war. And after people had been like using sticks and stones and fucking animal skins for clothes. And then someone stumbles upon some bunker somewhere. And inside there's intact computers and cell phones and satellite dishes. You'd be like, what the fuck is this stuff? This is magic. And then people would try to, for hundreds of years, try to back engineer it and explain it. You know? Like what?

• 27:43Speaker 03

  Okay, that's a, that's a perfect segue though. Cause you could have an instruction manual with those things, right? I could tell you, I could make an instruction manual, this is how you use this cell phone.

• 27:51Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 27:53Speaker 03

  Memories wiped, cataclysm, whatever happens, no one's going to be able to read English.

• 27:56Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, what if it's someone like me who finds that thing? And I'm like, what? Huh? Huh? Cell phone?

• 28:03Speaker 03

  Then you start worshiping it.

• 28:04Joe Rogan?

  Signal? What's a signal? It's in the air? Can you catch it with a net?

• 28:09Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's, it's preposterous, but there's, there's, okay. The way I look at it though, is the language that you have to read is the geometry. And that's why the tech comparisons are so, so powerful is because the geometry is guiding and routing signals and it's doing something. It's performing a function in your phone or your TV or whatever. And on a macro scale, that's exactly what they were doing too. You know, they were routing human behavior through temples. They were routing all this, uh, you know, organization, societal organization and structure for these components. So at a base level, they're doing the same thing, except you're kind of like the data packet. You're the technology instead of the, your cell phone.

• 28:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah. And then there's like whatever is going on with the pyramids in terms of like what the actual function of the pyramids was. The, you know, obviously the conventional position is that those were tombs. But you know, this Filippo Biondi stuff, Bondi or Biondi?

• 29:07Speaker 03

  It's Biondi.

• 29:08Joe Rogan?

  Am I saying, am I saying his name wrong? He was a very interesting guy and very humble and, you know, didn't seem like he was using hyperbole when he was describing these things. And he was talking about how many times they've done these scans.

• 29:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:22Joe Rogan?

  And people would just want to dismiss that data. And in fact, they retracted his paper.

• 29:28Speaker 03

  What?

• 29:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, the, the, there's like a big conscious, see if you find the controversy on that.

• 29:33Speaker 03

  He just did the scan of the Titanic and nailed it.

• 29:35Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh. Not only that, he's also done scans of existing structures in Egypt that they know, that they've already mapped out.

• 29:42Speaker 03

  A side shaft.

• 29:43Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. And he got all the dimensions correct. So it's not like this stuff doesn't work. And so if you've done repeated scans of this area, instead of dismissing it, well, I just don't understand why they're not all gathering around and wanting to have conversations with him and going to look at that stuff.

• 30:01Speaker 03

  It doesn't make sense from a business perspective either. Cause if you discover this stuff, that's like an unlimited source of tourism.

• 30:07Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent.

• 30:08Speaker 03

  Which, have you, have you been to Egypt?

• 30:12Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 30:12Speaker 03

  Okay, dude. When you go there, you're going to walk on the plateau and you're going to be like, if I had a team of a hundred dudes, I could clear this thing in a couple of months. Like the, the work is not the problem. That's really not it.

• 30:22Joe Rogan?

  It's the bottleneck of the.

• 30:23Speaker 03

  It is absolutely.

• 30:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, bureaucracy.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:26Joe Rogan?

  Cause the people that run it.

• 30:28Speaker 03

  You go there and like there's, there's vantage points of like that famous picture of the pyramids with all three of them, the camel walking by. There's like, that's like a vantage point where you can go and look at everything. You can see it with your eyes without looking at the satellite. There's something under here. There's something under here. There's something under here. And then there's gateways into it everywhere, all over the place. There's gated off doorways into the underground. That's like right up the causeway. Ben's done a great job showing that. So it's, I think it's the.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  I don't want to say it's a fear, but like-

• 30:57Joe Rogan?

  It's ego.

• 30:58Speaker 03

  It's, yeah.

• 30:59Joe Rogan?

  It's human ego. It's the fact they've been, they've been saying a certain thing. They have been laying out a certain narrative for a long time. And these guys, they teach this, their reputation is based on it. And one of the things that experts love to be is the gatekeeper of information. You know, if you try to talk to a gatekeeper, you try to talk to an expert about something that you don't understand, almost always you're met with dismissal. "No, no, no. You don't understand. Let me explain. The King's List is all fiction." "No, no, no, no, no. These were tombs. We know they were tombs. Let it go." Like, "Bitch, you don't know shit." "You're just another human who's been looking at this thing."

• 31:38Joe Rogan?

  And by the way, this whole fucking, this whole, just academia, academia, period, is recent.

• 31:45Speaker 03

  Well, Eric Weinstein has done a great job in showing how like, how gatekept that is. And I think there's a movement now where it's like, "Okay, well, you can say this, but we're gonna show you the opposite." "We're gonna show you that it's, that there's proof." "There's overcuts in granite. There's all this weird stuff that we can't do today." "The cultures say different stuff than the history books say." There, there's a disconnect.

• 32:12Joe Rogan?

  The drill holes.

• 32:13Speaker 03

  The drill hole, yes. The disconnect is insane at this point. I was, I, when I got into it, there was like a, a small hill of conspiracies when this was, you know, first coming in.

• 32:23Joe Rogan?

  What year did you get into this?

• 32:24Speaker 03

  Probably like 12 years ago.

• 32:25Joe Rogan?

  Do you remember what got you?

• 32:27Speaker 03

  Um, it was one Graham's book because I, I was, um-

• 32:31Joe Rogan?

  Fingerprints of the Gods?

• 32:32Speaker 03

  Yep. I did, um, I did high-rise window cleaning before this.

• 32:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, dude. I've always said that's the fucking scariest job ever.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  I was terrified. And I, like, before I did it, I was, I kinda had a fear of heights, but I had to like, really get rid of that quick.

• 32:46Joe Rogan?

  How did you get that job?

• 32:47Speaker 03

  I, it kinda fell in my lap, honestly. I had a window cleaning business. My dad had done it for years before. So we'd clean like fast food restaurants and stuff, made great money in high school. And then, um, there's, there's huge money in, uh, in high-rise window cleaning, you know, these buildings.

• 33:00Joe Rogan?

  Cause nobody wants to do it?

• 33:00Speaker 03

  No one wants to do it, yeah. The insurance is crazy, like, you have to have huge upfront cash to rent this equipment. Like, it's, it's a wild business, but I had so much time, I would just put my headphones in, I would listen to books. And so I was, I was hanging off of buildings, listening to Graham and everybody and like-

• 33:15Joe Rogan?

  I would wanna hear creaks and things.

• 33:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:20Joe Rogan?

  If something starts giving out, I would wanna be like razor sharp to all my, I'd wanna have suction cups on my hands.

• 33:27Speaker 03

  It was one in, one out. It wasn't, I wasn't noise cancelling that one, but, yeah, so-

• 33:33Joe Rogan?

  Wow, so that's how you got into it?

• 33:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, kinda, and then, um, uh, like Magical Egypt, there was a show.

• 33:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, John Anthony West, I had him on a couple times.

• 33:41Speaker 03

  I love his work.

• 33:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he was amazing.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  So, so the people, I really resonated with the, the engineering type of mindset, cause I went to college for computer engineering. And so when they, when you explain it in that way, my brain just got a little tickled cause I didn't really think there was anything going on in ancient history at all, until I started looking into that. And then, um, what really kicked it off was like the Lebanon Baalbek area. That stuff just smashed me in the face.

• 34:05Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 34:05Speaker 03

  That, that stuff is insane, so I-

• 34:07Joe Rogan?

  The, the size of those stones is beyond, it's beyond comprehension.

• 34:12Speaker 03

  And the whole, the whole base of it, it's not just the Trilithon, the whole base of it is stones that are upwards of 400 tons.

• 34:18Joe Rogan?

  And there's no record of it. That's what's really weird, cause the Romans kept meticulous records of the construction. And they have records of the construction of these buildings, they do not have a record of the construction of the base. Like, whatever that was, was probably ancient. And probably there a long time before they ever started building on it.

• 34:35Speaker 03

  I think it's Phoenician, honestly.

• 34:38Joe Rogan?

  Phoenician?

• 34:38Speaker 03

  Phoenician, yeah. Phoenician Canaanites.

• 34:41Joe Rogan?

  So what year are we talking that?

• 34:43Speaker 03

  I, what, I think Baalbek is pre-flood. I'm pretty convinced that it's pre-flood.

• 34:47Joe Rogan?

  Pre-flood, Younger Dryas flood, or pre-

• 34:50Speaker 03

  At least, at least the base of it, cause you can see, there's like a, there's an outer wall, and they're huge stones, and then there's the inner temple wall, right? There's a discoloration between the two. They're like, one is clearly older than the other, at least in repairs. You can see clear layers of repair, right? But the, the Canaanite, the Phoenician Canaanites were, they helped build the temple, Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem. And in the, uh, underground of that temple is a stone that's damn near just as big as the Trilithon stones. It's just not open to the public. You don't see it a lot.

• 35:20Joe Rogan?

  Are there photos online?

• 35:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. Uh, I think it's a Western wall, Jamie. Um, it's, I, I don't know the estimates of it, cause I don't know how deep it is, but it looks enormous. And so, they would help, uh, the Egyptians build too. So they were kind of like a contractor, essentially. They were really good at, um, sailing, navigation, and, uh, they could move really big fucking rocks. And so that's, the legends are, um, linked kinda by the Templar tradition, if you know any of that backstory.

• 35:50Joe Rogan?

  Not really.

• 35:51Speaker 03

  You know Timothy Hogan, the Knights Templar master?

• 35:53Joe Rogan?

  I, I've heard of it, but I don't know much about the history of it.

• 35:56Speaker 03

  So, so they, they kind of are the, the bridge informationally between where all of this is coming from, because they were the first ones to excavate in Jerusalem, uh, off the record. You know, they were, uh, the Templars were supposed to guard pilgrims when they were, you know, going to the sacred sites. But that was like their front, and then the back was, we're, we're excavating in Egypt and Jerusalem, and you see their graffiti everywhere. There's Templar graffiti on, uh, Fila Temple in Egypt and, uh, a whole bunch of places. In the, that, the Noah's Ark stones, the, the anchor stones, those are Templar crosses. Those aren't Christian crosses. So deals, it's the, uh, the angled, the angled cross, you know, where the V's and they go in, that's a Templar cross.

• 36:36Speaker 03

  So their graffiti is kind of everywhere they went. That's where they would, they would leave their marks, saying that that's, you know, one, to communicate to other Templars that this was a site that they'd been to, but also saying that there's something here that's important.

• 36:49Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. Jamie, did you find that, um, Western wall stone?

• 36:54Speaker 04

  I'm not sure exactly which one I'm supposed to be on the screen. I don't know which one, I don't know if that's it or-

• 37:00Speaker 03

  No, you wanna say Western wall, no, Jerusalem, Western wall?

• 37:03Speaker 04

  Well-

• 37:05Joe Rogan?

  Baalbek is the, there it goes.

• 37:10Speaker 04

  That's like the, I don't think that's what you were looking for either. That's why I didn't look for that.

• 37:13Speaker 03

  Keep scrolling down there.

• 37:14Speaker 04

  That's the prayer wall.

• 37:16Joe Rogan?

  Maybe if you write huge stone?

• 37:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, just say, uh, megalith, Western wall megalith.

• 37:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's one.

• 37:25Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Whoa.

• 37:26Speaker 03

  Yeah. So, yeah, the whole has Wikipedia page for it. It's not like a-

• 37:29Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  It's not a secret or anything.

• 37:31Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit.

• 37:33Speaker 03

  Yeah. That's the foundation of Solomon's Temple.

• 37:35Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit. Look at the size of that. Oh my god, that's insane.

• 37:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, and they have more than that one.

• 37:46Joe Rogan?

  11.5 feet tall, 41 feet long. And what is it made of?

• 37:53Speaker 03

  I don't know that one. I wanna say it's limes. It looks like limestone, but-

• 37:58Joe Rogan?

  500 tons.

• 38:00Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 38:01Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit.

• 38:02Speaker 03

  I think Brian Forster's picture of it was pretty good too.

• 38:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 38:07Speaker 03

  It's ridiculous, right?

• 38:08Joe Rogan?

  That's just the exposed faces, 44.5 feet long.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:12Joe Rogan?

  The largest building block, one of the largest building blocks in the world. Whoa. So prior estimates ranged up to 16.5 meters?

• 38:25Speaker 03

  550 to 600 tons.

• 38:26Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 38:27Speaker 03

  So that, that range is the entire bottom of Baalbek. So, what the connection there is, there's two. One is the builders, from the Phoenician builders, is the, the, it was like a guild that did this huge work. They leave traces in the stone though, and they're, they're called microspherules. And it's a, it's an, it's a reaction, low-energy nuclear reaction leaves these, um, so like, if you have a meteorite impact, or the, uh, plasma, new plasma physics, like the, uh, the plasmoid science that's coming out now, that stuff leaves these in the stone.

• 39:04Speaker 03

  So there's traces of plasma interaction in Baalbek, in, uh, Jerusalem, in, uh, Iran, and somewhere, Sarsabian.

• 39:13Joe Rogan?

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• 40:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:47Joe Rogan?

  So I've seen this, what's this, maybe it'd be a good thing to just go to that, cause you lay it out really well.

• 40:52Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 40:53Joe Rogan?

  Where is it on your page? Do you remember?

• 40:54Speaker 03

  It is, um-

• 40:55Joe Rogan?

  It's fairly recent, right?

• 40:56Speaker 03

  I just made a new one, yeah. Um, has to do with the ringing rocks too. The, the ones that, that ring are-

• 41:01Joe Rogan?

  He's got it up there. Which one do you think it would be?

• 41:05Speaker 03

  In Sound Science, um, insane plasma anomalies found in ancient stone. Um, that's, well, no, that's the, that's the levitation one. The, the exotic metal, sorry, my bad. Yep.

• 41:17Joe Rogan?

  Alright.

• 41:20Speaker 03

  And this time it's not what's in the sand, it's what's in the rock. Exotic metals from the cutting tool have been found lodged inside the rock. And they're typically only found in asteroids and meteorites. They've also been found in megalithic sites all over the world. Back in February, I was in the largest and crispiest temple in all of Egypt, Karnak. I had watched this video by Versodoco and it was saying how these are unexplainable cut marks because the cuts are microscopically small. There is no reasonable explanation for a cut that sharp even today without lasers. This research team got a sample and they were looking for exotic metals that the Egyptians did not have, which they found, but they also found these. Let me explain what these lines are.

• 42:03Speaker 03

  When we cut granite today, we use giant saws. These saws leave a circular tool mark like the stone my dog Harvey is guarding. What was found in the Karnak stones were perfectly straight lines, which means in layman's terms that something was cutting it more like butter than like a circular saw. Anytime you cut anything, it leaves a mark. Inside those marks are microscopic cracks where pieces of the tool can embed itself. But that typically only happens with high-speed rotation. So they got their hands on another sample from Dachur. This one has a sloping cut, which is insanely difficult to manufacture. In this one, they found three elements that are typically only used in the cooling circuits of nuclear reactors. When they compared this ancient cut to a modern cut of the same material, the only difference

• 42:48Speaker 03

  was the aged appearance. Now, the material they found the most of was copper. It was an alloy that the Egyptians could not have produced enough heat to make. Our guess was that they used chemical salts to intensify a natural reaction to create more heat. To create the metal, they would need microscopic precision in the mixture. That is something that we do for electronic circuits. Atomic-level imperfections are introduced in silicon to produce transistors. But just by doing that, a simple rock gets transformed into something that can show you, me. But we haven't even got to the wildest part. Microspherules were also found in the samples. These only come from cosmic impacts, volcanoes, lightning strikes, geological processes, and human industrial processes.

• 43:31Speaker 03

  It happens when something gets really hot and cools really fast. These were found in Dachur, in Baalbek, in Iran, and pretty much everywhere that has megalithic architecture. Well, how do we rule out geology? Baalbek, a typical meteorite. Meteorites have about one per square meter. Baalbek had three per centimeter. One thing that can do this is something called cavitation. If you symmetrically compress a water bubble, it'll release energy. It's the main reason that propellers on boats get worn out so fast. Here, you can see what happens in this gear. You can see it happening in this gear, but there's another way to do it. If you hit aluminum foil with ultrasonic frequencies, it creates these holes. With the right frequency, silver is a byproduct.

• 44:14Speaker 03

  Now, there has been demonstrations of vibrating a rock and then putting a tube drill with a weight on top of it, and it will actually drill the hole itself. Now, with water involved, there could be a cavitation effect going on there, but this has not been studied. What is for sure is there is some atomic alchemy going on. This is on page 67 of Cryptex if you'd like to further explore that concept. There are two huge issues with the normal explanation. One, it does not make sense. Two, it does not fund the haircut that I desperately need. And that's- Glad a haircut, haircut, uh, ending made it.

• 44:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, the, the whole thing about the, the cutting of these things is we're trying to rationalize, or we're trying to explain it away using what we use today.

• 45:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:01Joe Rogan?

  And there's a very real possibility that technology was super advanced, but in a different direction that we haven't pursued. If you think about like the directions that we pursued with internal combustion engines, electronics, electricity, all the different things that we use as technology today, that's just the way we went with the ingenuity that human beings possess. It doesn't mean that these people had to go that way, and it seems like they probably went a different way. And we don't really know what that way is.

• 45:30Speaker 03

  I, I, I think it's an easier way than we're doing it, though. Like, there's a lot of the, that science that I was just talking about there is a lot cheaper to run these experiments. You, you familiar with John Hutchison?

• 45:43Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 45:44Speaker 03

  So, back in the eighties, he made this lab that he called the Submarine. And it was just this amalgamation of, of Tesla coils and frequency generators, and he was monitoring like Earth frequencies and cosmic stuff. And he was able to get objects to levitate, and he was, he could, um, he could basically gelify metal and embed metals within other metals. And he was just messing around with some frequencies. And eventually, his work got classified and he was kinda, I think the Canadian government confiscated it, and so that, it was like shoved under the rug. But his samples survived. And so, the samples that he had got acquired by a guy named Bob Griner.

• 46:27Speaker 03

  And he's been doing analysis on these things. And he found the same microspherules that are in the ancient stones, the unexplainable ones, in John Hutchison's samples. So, there's a link here between this plasma physics, this low-energy plasma physics, and the, the ancient stuff. And the way we're going is very high-energy physics, like the Large Hadron Collider, like CERN. That stuff is, is enormously energy-consuming. Like, the, the experiments they do there have to like shut power grids off, right? This stuff you can run in a room. Like, it just, it's just basically, it's, it's putting, manipulating plasma through matter in a symmetrical geometric way, and it produces these really weird results.

• 47:11Speaker 03

  And there's a lot of, and the best way to describe it is, is transmutation, like old-school alchemy.

• 47:18Joe Rogan?

  So-

• 47:21Joe Rogan?

  So here's a question. Like, what, what were they using to make this happen?

• 47:28Speaker 03

  This is the, so, so Bob explains it really well, but I think, and I'm not like 100% on this, but there was a tool that we are mistaking for, for an artifact, if that makes sense. There was a tool that doesn't look like a tool. And I think what they were doing is, you know, the scoop mark tool, like the one that you see in Egypt and everywhere else? It looks like something that you would, it might be so simple, is what I'm saying, that we don't recognize it as a tool. So, so within their system of doing things, whether it was generating power or frequencies that were able to be, you know, passed through the human body, because this plasma physics, like all this new stuff, the plasma can go through your, through your body and not harm

• 48:13Speaker 03

  you. There's, there's safe ways to do it. And if you can, if you can transmit it to an object, and this is where the, the ancient, like cone stuff gets really, really interesting.

• 48:24Joe Rogan?

  Cone stuff?

• 48:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, so like the pine cone from the, the Sumerian stuff, where the guy's giving a pine cone out. There's these things called votive cones. Have you ever heard of those?

• 48:34Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 48:34Speaker 03

  Jenny, look up V-O-T-I-V cones. They would put these cones, they would, they put a cuneiform inscription on these cones, and they would embed them in the temple walls. It's basically like a cornerstone or like a consecration of the temple. And what they were, they don't look like they would be significant in any way to the construction process. But we see these cones all over the place. That's it, yeah. So basically, they're, they're, yeah, type of foundational deposit. Important billions. Yeah, historical memory of the ruler and his achievements. But I don't, I, I think this is another misinterpretation of what these were.

• 49:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, this is the Met Museum's, like, official stance on it.

• 49:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, of course.

• 49:18Joe Rogan?

  So what do you think this is?

• 49:20Speaker 03

  So I think this was a way of focusing this type of energy. So the same rock would-

• 49:24Joe Rogan?

  That little thing is?

• 49:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:25Joe Rogan?

  How big is that thing?

• 49:26Speaker 03

  That's like handheld, you could-

• 49:28Joe Rogan?

  So you think that stone with those writings on was how they focused energy?

• 49:33Speaker 03

  So, the, the way that this stuff works is it, they basically embed themselves in the stone. These little plasma objects are called plasmoids. They basically embed themselves-

• 49:41Joe Rogan?

  That is so cool-looking.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  Right?

• 49:43Joe Rogan?

  Look at that writing, man. So bizarre.

• 49:45Speaker 03

  You know, cuneiform too is, or Sumerian is a, is a language isolate? There's no, it, it just appears. There's, there's no precursor. Cuneiform's like English, like it's a, it's a style of writing, but Sumerian, no precursor. Just here.

• 50:01Joe Rogan?

  Fucking weird.

• 50:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, and so they have these, they have these things. And if you look at the, the megalithic work from the Sumerians, like the Temple of Ionis or Kefkalesi, that stuff is the most precise stuff. It's more precise than anything I've ever seen. It's A-Y-A-N-A, Iionis?

• 50:24Joe Rogan?

  Which one is it?

• 50:26Speaker 03

  A Y A N I S. It's in Turkey, Anatolia. Yeah, see the geometry there, that basalt?

• 50:37Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 50:38Speaker 03

  So the gray, the gray one, I think it's like andesite or something.

• 50:42Joe Rogan?

  The one above?

• 50:43Speaker 03

  No, no, if you zoom out, Jamie. It says the fortress of Aionis, Turkey, that one, yeah. Those are very hard basalt, I believe. And they are completely buried. It's, it's like the, the vast majority of this temple is utterly unrecognizable, but they have the same polygonal masonry, same signature of, of, you know, everything we see around the ancient world. But, um, yeah, Matt LaCorre is actually doing some great boots on the ground work with this. He's got the, I think the only footage that I know of, of him walking around this place. So click that, um, no, go back one more. That one, Euryatarians, Aionis. You're down, or one more. There you go, that one.

• 51:28Speaker 03

  So you can clearly see that the, like, the style, you know, is exceptionally ancient. And then you've got the same thing you see in Peru where the newer stuff, the mud brick is on top of it and, you know, clear signature of, of this was exceptionally old.

• 51:44Joe Rogan?

  And so these cones, this is the question. What, what are they doing? How are they getting a stone cone to project energy? Like, what is the process? What do they believe? What's the theory?

• 51:58Speaker 03

  From my understanding, it's a resonance with the plasma itself. So it embeds itself in the rock when it goes through this process. And the sun can do this, the, like, natural processes can do this and they do it all the time. They, there's a, uh, the, the phenomenon is a, a rock that rings. So it creates these little voids in the stone. The plasma goes through the stone and it eats away at the grain boundaries and it creates these little voids in the stone. And when you tap on the stone, and this is all over Egypt, all the obelisk ring, uh, most of the central altars will ring. And it is still, it's, the process isn't a hundred percent worked out yet. We're still trying to figure it out. But what I, from what I understand is the, the cones or a sharp object, even your finger can do it.

• 52:41Speaker 03

  Like, it's, uh, basically a sharp point is where charge accumulates, right? That's why that we have, uh, lightning rods on top of houses.

• 52:50Speaker 03

  That is essentially a tool, and if you have two of them, you can kind of guide and position this and, and work the, the field that it's in. It's, it's creates this thing called a monopole. And it's, you know, magnets have two poles, like a north-south. A monopole has one pole and it's all, it's a theoretical particle, but it has one pole and it's embedded in, into this rock, right? But it bends the field around it. It bends the magnetic field of the earth around it. So if the cone or the tool that you're using resonates with that cavity of the stone, then it can essentially move it around like a...

• 53:27Joe Rogan?

  Right, but where are they getting this energy from? And how are they getting it into the rock?

• 53:32Speaker 03

  So that's, that's what we're, that's kind of my process, what I'm trying to figure out with the whole temple network of things. Because when you connect, the basic idea of it is connecting the ground to the ionosphere. And if you create a bridge through geometry or temple, then you have a connection between those two. And then the hardware of that temple kind of routes that, that signal. And then the signal can then be essentially broadcast out to other nodes in the network. And that's where you're getting your, uh, it's like a wifi, like a router. And so the process of making them though is, is you have to essentially pass this energy through the rock.

• 54:14Speaker 03

  You have to pass this plasma through the rock and it, it reconfigures the, the structure of it internally. And one of those signatures is the ringing rocks. That's why I made that, the video the other day.

• 54:24Joe Rogan?

  How the fuck could they figure that out?

• 54:26Speaker 03

  That, the divergent science, that's what you're saying. Is, is they went down that path and it's honestly, it, to me, it's easier to understand than our site, the way we're doing things. I, I think we're kind of beaten, uh, we hit a, a dead end at some point. We're kind of beating it over the head, not like we're not making progress, but this stuff seems to be the right way to do it. And it seems like they everywhere knew it. They could reconfigure this stuff and that, it would explain a lot of things. Like, I'm not a huge fan of the geopolymer theory of, you know, they pour these rocks because there's just too much evidence that they, they were fit together like that. But it would explain it because that gelification, like I was saying with John Hutcheson's work with metals, it does this to pretty much anything.

• 55:07Speaker 03

  It can do it to, to, to rock, to whatever you pass this thing through. It's, it's almost like an intelligent system. I'm, I'm, I'm probably butchering a lot of this, but like, the sciences, this is the newest frontier of, of that research.

• 55:24Joe Rogan?

  And so how long do you think a civilization would have to exist before they went down this alternative route of technology? Where they could figure that out? This is where it gets probably as long as the Egyptians.

• 55:38Speaker 04

  Ringing rocks in Pennsylvania?

• 55:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:40Speaker 04

  I have not. There's a park where there's fucking tons and tons of these rocks that people go and hit with hammers and they ring like bells.

• 55:49Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 55:49Speaker 04

  And no one knows how, what I'm looking right now, no one knows how they got there or how they were formed. One website said wetcraft made them, which is obviously not real, but...

• 55:59Speaker 03

  The Native Americans used them. They would bring them to, to some of their sites, sacred sites.

• 56:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, what is that rock made out of that it does that? Ringing rocks, period of a thousand years, these boulders were formed, erosion, activation of water. A rare geological experience awaits visitors. When struck lightly with a hammer, each boulder gives off a bell-like tone. Size and shape of the boulder affects the tone. If removed from the site, the boulders will no longer possess this unique quality.

• 56:27Speaker 04

  That's probably just so you don't steal them.

• 56:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:29Speaker 04

  But maybe not, I mean, that's maybe, I don't know, how you stumble across that.

• 56:32Joe Rogan?

  How would that be possible?

• 56:33Speaker 04

  Ancient times.

• 56:34Joe Rogan?

  How would it be possible if you removed the boulders and like put it in your backyard? You couldn't get it to ring.

• 56:40Speaker 03

  I've just made a video on the ringing rock phenomenon.

• 56:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, they gotta be touching each other or something, that's very strange.

• 56:47Speaker 03

  Because it's...

• 56:49Joe Rogan?

  That's weird, but it's not as weird as this idea that you're, you're suggesting. Because it's like, when, you know, we have to think, how long did it take us to get to the point where we have cell phones? How long did it take them to the point where they were able to use geometric patterns to connect the ionosphere with temples and generate plasma power with stones or what?

• 57:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:16Joe Rogan?

  Like, what are we talking about? We, how long do you think these civilizations existed?

• 57:20Speaker 03

  I don't, I, I'm, I'm not sure that it's like a, a, the way we're looking at it, I don't think it's, it, that fits. Like the, let's take the dynastic Egyptians for example.

• 57:31Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 57:32Speaker 03

  I don't think they came up with that. I think there's two classes, like the Assyrian, the Asyris shaft and Great Pyramid. Those are classified in my opinion as hardware and infrastructure. Whereas the temples, like Luxor or Karnak and the, the ones that you would traditionally think of as Egyptian, those are the software layer, the operating system of how to use this stuff, right? So you have two separate things. And then you have, in the middle, you have the wetware, that's a human. So the wetware can be programmed essentially using the infrastructure and the instructions. So that, to me, doesn't seem to, this whole system does not seem to be invented by the dynastic culture.

• 58:13Speaker 03

  It seems to have been interpreted by them, maybe through a representative of the prior culture. That's like the, the kind of the Graham idea of, you know, maybe there were survivors, they knew how to work it. They came, they told these guys how to work it and then they got a little cocky with it.

• 58:28Joe Rogan?

  And when we say the original culture, like, are you talking about like the King's List?

• 58:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:35Joe Rogan?

  You're talking about like these people that supposedly lived for thousands and thousands of years?

• 58:40Speaker 03

  Yeah. I, I don't think they were, um,

• 58:45Speaker 03

  I mean, especially with mummification and stuff, I don't, I think they knew how to like re-inhabit, reincarnate intentionally into another body, essentially, you know, so they could continue that.

• 58:54Joe Rogan?

  Where'd you get this from?

• 58:55Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 58:56Joe Rogan?

  Where'd you get this idea from?

• 58:58Speaker 03

  I mean, the, the mummification idea is how they passed on knowledge. That's, that's like Egyptian lore. That's, that's their, that's how they did it. The, so, so Horus is the, is the sun god on earth, right? He, the, the, the wisdom of Horus gets transmitted to every successive pharaoh. So you would go through the training, through the, the temple complexes and you'd go up the Nile and you would learn what you need to learn at each temple. Each temple has a theme. Exactly, like, every single one of them is trying to teach a life lesson, philosophical lesson, history lesson. And so you would, you would take that initiatic path and then at the end of that path, you would be anointed as the sun god on earth, right?

• 59:37Speaker 03

  But that was a process that you had to basically tune your, your brain receiver to, to handle, right? So it's like, I can't go to the gym and immediately hop on and bench 405, right? I have to spend years and years training and, and working up to it. But once I hit that 405, I'm, I'm crowned the champion if I, if that's my, you know, personal best or if I'm at a competition, right? Their crowning of the champion would be downloading the previous memories of the prior pharaoh. It was a transfer of consciousness, essentially. Have you seen the show Altered Carbon on Netflix?

• 1:00:17Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  It's like they had those sleeves.

• 1:00:19Joe Rogan?

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• 1:01:29Speaker 03

  I think that was a similar process to what they were doing, but they did it without a technological barrier.

• 1:01:35Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so the idea, is this like similar to the idea of the Dalai Lama? Like the Dalai Lama, like each person is like a reincarnated version of the Dalai Lama. They have to go out and find who it is.

• 1:01:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:45Joe Rogan?

  So the idea is that these people didn't live that long. It's not like they lived for tens of thousands of years, but the essence of who they were was transported into another vehicle, another body.

• 1:01:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:57Joe Rogan?

  But why do you come up with this idea?

• 1:01:59Speaker 03

  Uh, I, because I think it was a developmental process in... One, I think we would maybe see some evidence of it. And I think that it's kind of right in front of our face. The mummification phenomenon is just weird in general, you know? It's just an outlier in terms of history of a process that we don't really understand. And I think what that was, was a... I would, I call it a quantum anchor in my terminology. And what I mean by that is like it's a bookmark that can access a certain amount of memory from another person, right?

• 1:02:40Speaker 03

  So what the Egyptians would do is, have you seen like the full casket of a mummy? It's layered. There's huge, there's like the outer stone layer, and there's a wood layer, and then they just keep getting like, it's like a Russian doll. It's a nest of Russian doll. They're selective with their materials, though. The selection of materials is, in my opinion, what they would do to like keep that frequency in that particular mummy. They would hold on to that frequency. And then whenever a new pharaoh would come in, they would basically have a ceremony, probably involve psychedelics of some sort, and download that previous pharaoh's memories and knowledge and wisdom and all that stuff. And so they could continue the reign based off of inherited wisdom.

• 1:03:25Speaker 03

  Instead of me talking to you about the lessons that I learned in my life, you directly experience them through an altered state of consciousness.

• 1:03:32Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. You know about Rupert Sheldrake's theory of morphic resonance?

• 1:03:38Speaker 03

  Love it.

• 1:03:39Joe Rogan?

  Weird stuff, right?

• 1:03:40Speaker 03

  Love it.

• 1:03:40Joe Rogan?

  And it's also weird that there seems to be some evidence that points to the fact that it exists in nature. Like if you teach rats how to navigate a maze on the East Coast, the rats on the West Coast navigate it quicker.

• 1:03:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:54Joe Rogan?

  Like, it's measurable.

• 1:03:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:55Joe Rogan?

  Like, they figure it out quicker.

• 1:03:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:57Joe Rogan?

  And that you could pass this information on to generations. Like, there was that study that, there was a young man who, uh... I think it was lavender smell or something. He, well, there's one that he did, there was one that they did with caterpillars, where they figured out that caterpillars can contain memories.

• 1:04:22Speaker 03

  Oh, because they dissolve themselves and they become the butterfly and they still remember this stuff?

• 1:04:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Exactly.

• 1:04:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:28Joe Rogan?

  And so there's some weird stuff with memory and with genetics. And that memory is somehow or another like memories of puzzles and different things that they've tried to get people and animals to do. And also different reactions that they have to stimuli, whether it's negative or positive, like getting shocked if they smell a certain thing. And then future generations are, they avoid that thing.

• 1:04:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:54Joe Rogan?

  It seems that we don't totally understand what memory is. And we probably have a very crude idea of how to contain it and how long it lasts and like what it actually is. And it might be information that just exists in some other state that maybe a very sophisticated civilization has figured out how to quantify that and how to capture it and how to transmit it and how to use it.

• 1:05:24Speaker 03

  Yeah. That's basically the idea, and I think that's what they're saying directly in the Egyptian texts. I honestly do believe that because they get hyper-detailed on how to navigate this realm. And it seems very similar to like the stuff you see of the DMT research. You encounter an entity or you have this shared experience of something that you can't really explain. Maybe they were explaining that. Maybe that's what they're, you know, they were mapping that, like we're kind of mapping it now. But they, the way they did it was to, if you go into the temples, they restrict your sensory input. That's kind of the point of the temple, is you start in this big outside courtyard and you narrow into the final, the naus of the temple, the main big old box of it.

• 1:06:07Speaker 03

  And when you get in there, the environment is extremely acoustic. They would obviously have like incense and stuff going too. So you have this like, you have this tuned state that you're in, right? And then the deity itself, in each temple, in Egypt, Rome, and the Hindu culture, all of their temples were the literal bodies of the deities. It wasn't a, we associate them with churches. And churches are not the same as cathedrals, and cathedrals are not the same as temples. Like, they're all technically a temple if you want to put them under that umbrella, but the function of each one wildly different, right?

• 1:06:47Speaker 03

  So the Egyptian version was to align your consciousness with this sort of energy, frequency. And in physics, there's a concept called spontaneous synchronization, where if you have a metronome and it's on a moving base, it will sync up with other metronomes on that moving base. And what it is, is frequency in training, pretty much. It's the dominant frequency subtly aligns the other frequencies until they match up. And in my opinion, that's what they were doing with the brain. And they were essentially building that receiver of their brain through this ritual process to receive that deity's consciousness. And that is the temple side of things. That's not what like the Assyrians doing.

• 1:07:31Speaker 03

  The Assyrian is not one of those things. It's a very huge, large infrastructure project that looks like it was meant to withstand a whole bunch of stuff. The temple is something that's, it looks more like a programming interface, where you would go in and you would learn this stuff, like a university, but basically like Neo downloading the Kung-Fu, you know?

• 1:07:51Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Oy. So how long would a civilization have to exist before they figured something like this out?

• 1:07:58Speaker 03

  That's, this is where all of everything kind of converges. Because if we have, if we have evidence of, I don't want to say it's ancient aliens, but a civilization that appears to be alien to us, like we were just talking about, if you found a vault with all our technology locked into it, you'd be like, what the fuck? If that were the case, and this cataclysm happened, you know? I think that their timeline is correct. I think that we should take their timeline seriously. The Sumerian and Egyptian kings lists. I think that they're probably more accurate than we want to give off.

• 1:08:35Joe Rogan?

  And their timeline is hundreds of thousands of years.

• 1:08:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:38Joe Rogan?

  Especially the Sumerians, right?

• 1:08:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:40Joe Rogan?

  Like, some of the rulers, what's the longest ruler?

• 1:08:43Speaker 03

  I think it's like 50,000, something like that, yeah. Can you imagine being around here 50,000 years?

• 1:08:48Joe Rogan?

  And then you have things like the Book of Enoch.

• 1:08:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:50Joe Rogan?

  Right? Which talks about the watchers who come down and mate with the daughters of men and create the Nephilim, a race that destroys everything.

• 1:08:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:59Joe Rogan?

  Which sounds a lot like us. Uh, but this idea of being visited is ubiquitous, like throughout all of these ancient cultures. It's, they all talk of something, and it's generally coming down.

• 1:09:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:14Joe Rogan?

  Like, coming down from somewhere. Those from heaven to earth came.

• 1:09:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:19Joe Rogan?

  You know, this is the common theme, that something comes down from the sky.

• 1:09:24Speaker 03

  I think too that if they were that capable of doing this type of transitionary, you know, memory wiping and re-downloading type of a thing, we may not have really even noticed that they were that much different unless they look like the Peruvian mummies or something, you know, like those things. But if they could do that, then they probably looked a lot like Egyptians. They probably looked a lot like the people that they were encountering because of this phenomenon of them breeding with the local populations. And then that's where you probably get your explosion of civilizations at this same exact time in history, where we get agriculture and all this rule of law and like how to build these crazy things, they all pop up at the same time.

• 1:10:08Speaker 03

  So those are pointing in that direction, in my opinion, and then once they got a stable civilization to kind of hold on to, they could slowly build it back up and keep this process going. But then you have something like that Mesopotamia flood that was intermediate between the Younger Dryas and now, where you have these periodic, like, we almost made it and then the information gets thrown back again. So it's just been this like cat and mouse game of we almost got it and no, something happens.

• 1:10:38Joe Rogan?

  Right, so there's probably a period of peace in terms of like natural disasters and cataclysmic wars and whatever it was, a period of peace where there was enough time where they could innovate and get to this insane level of sophistication.

• 1:10:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:10:57Joe Rogan?

  And the evidence that we have is probably these megalithic structures.

• 1:10:59Speaker 03

  Yes, and that's, that to me is the, they knew where the infrastructure was, because even the, like, like Angkor Wat has megalithic infrastructure. There's a bunch of places that you can't really tell it's megalithic because they would build on top of these temples.

• 1:11:15Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:11:16Speaker 03

  And the infrastructure part, like Teotihuacan, Chichen Itza, those, that stuff is the best example I use because they're also nesting dolls of pyramids, right? So the inner core of the pyramids seems to be that someone knew where that thing was and they were like, look, you gotta build it like this and get it aligned properly and then it'll work again. And then they just kept on doing that and then it just builds up. And then by the time you look at, like Karnak has megalithic stuff in it, it's the biggest temple in Egypt, but around it, it looks, there's Greco-Roman stuff, there's like modern repairs, it's so hard to tell what is the most ancient stuff. But you get, when you encounter it in Egypt, you physically feel that it's the ancient stuff.

• 1:12:00Speaker 03

  There's like a, there's a vibe to it, you can see it, so.

• 1:12:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, this has been detailed too, when people talk about the erosion, when they talk about the erosion, particularly in Giza and some of these areas, there's different levels of erosion and there's some erosion that seems to indicate tens of thousands of years.

• 1:12:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, and that's what's thrown kind of a monkey wrench in it. There's like, Petra is a great example of this, some of the stuff in Petra is crazy, crazy eroded and some of it looks like pristine, perfect, you know? And there's, they're very, Petra's only like 10% excavated. You walk around Petra and you're walking on the roof of some building and you can look down in there and it's, yeah. That stuff in the right place where they put these big, like the treasury and stuff, looks fine. It looks, it looks like they, you know, well-preserved, but there's this, that guy right there, the breathtaking natural wonder, natural colors.

• 1:12:58Joe Rogan?

  To the left, Jamie?

• 1:12:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:00Joe Rogan?

  Down, down and to the right?

• 1:13:02Speaker 03

  To the right, yeah.

• 1:13:03Joe Rogan?

  That one, yeah.

• 1:13:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, look how heavily eroded that sucker is.

• 1:13:05Speaker 04

  Isn't this where that lion is too?

• 1:13:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:08Speaker 04

  There's like a lion cutting to the wall, you know what I'm talking about? No, I'll look it up.

• 1:13:12Joe Rogan?

  But hold on a second, stay on that one. So that, so you feel like this is like quite a bit older?

• 1:13:19Speaker 03

  The whole, the whole site of Petra is a crazy enigma, dude. The engineering that went in there, just to make that place livable is, looks super, super old and then you walk through, you'll encounter one of these guys and then you'll encounter a perfect one, the treasury, and then you'll encounter one that's just like, is a hole in the wall that looks like it was under construction. It's just, like, all of it does not make any sense.

• 1:13:43Joe Rogan?

  So all of Petra is essentially carved out of these mountains?

• 1:13:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's a couple Roman, there's a Roman temple and an amphitheater at the end of it, but the main stuff is, yeah.

• 1:13:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh, there's the lion?

• 1:13:57Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:13:58Joe Rogan?

  That's a old-looking fucking, look like an elephant. What is that?

• 1:14:00Speaker 04

  Well, if you see it in the right shape, which is why it still looks like a mountain lion, that was, you know, could have lived there.

• 1:14:05Joe Rogan?

  It's got a tail, okay, that's a different one.

• 1:14:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:09Joe Rogan?

  Is it a different one or is it a different?

• 1:14:10Speaker 04

  It's a different one.

• 1:14:11Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:14:12Speaker 04

  Can I bring up a side note as you're talking?

• 1:14:15Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 1:14:16Speaker 04

  I was thinking of something and looked it up and didn't get taken off my path. Is there a place like the hill described in telepathy tapes in ancient descriptions of anything? You know what I'm talking about, the hill?

• 1:14:28Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, do you know about that?

• 1:14:30Speaker 03

  I know the telepathy tapes, I'm not familiar with this.

• 1:14:33Joe Rogan?

  So the telepathy tapes, they talk about these non-verbal autistic kids that all meet up telepathically in this place that they refer to as the hill. Like people that have not encountered each other physically all talk about this area. And this hill is supposed to be a place that, and other people have gotten to it too, right?

• 1:14:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, so that's the weird part, as I was thinking, it's, the hill, it maybe is a hill, maybe isn't a hill, you know, it's out somewhere in the subconscious or wherever the hell they're actually going.

• 1:15:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:06Speaker 04

  But as you're talking about, you know, back in the past, I'm like, well, that didn't just start in the last 50 years.

• 1:15:10Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:15:11Speaker 04

  It probably has been there forever.

• 1:15:13Speaker 03

  Well, the...

• 1:15:14Speaker 04

  Ancient Greece has some, like dream temples they're talking about. If you go down to, this is shamanic soul flights, but I think more interesting is ancient Irish and Celtic, they actually, I mean mound builders, there are hills. And the way it was described in telepathy tapes is that there's various hills, they're sort of geographically located, but there are also big giant hills where there are thousands of people hanging out, talking, communicating, learning. People have learned hieroglyphs, they go ask a teacher.

• 1:15:41Joe Rogan?

  And this is why drugs are illegal.

• 1:15:43Speaker 04

  And then as you're saying, I'm like, they could, if someone was a ruler, they could have like cut off the path, like no one's going here anymore.

• 1:15:50Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:15:51Speaker 04

  We need full control.

• 1:15:52Speaker 03

  That's, that's...

• 1:15:53Speaker 04

  Break all the tablets that show you how to get there.

• 1:15:55Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:15:56Speaker 04

  We're done, it's over, you know, and that's my, I did this.

• 1:15:59Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:16:00Speaker 04

  I made all of this.

• 1:16:01Joe Rogan?

  Right, right. And there's a lot of evidence that people do that now, like look what the Taliban did when they blew up all those ancient...

• 1:16:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:16:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:09Speaker 03

  So, and if you, once you add the layer of like an altered state of consciousness, the most impactful moments in some people's lives are their first psychedelic experiences or near-death experiences, stuff like that, that's the download, you know? You're kind of changed and altered forever after you go through one of these things.

• 1:16:27Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:16:28Speaker 03

  So if you could control that, instead of having this, I'm just gonna see what happens on ayahuasca journey, you know, if you could control that and guide it, which is exactly what you find in the buried, actual buried, not the pyramid tombs, because they're not tombs, in the actual burials of the pharaohs, they have spells on the wall that tell you how to navigate, to connect with them, to connect with other deities, to, it's how they would, they would go through this celestial university and interact with ancestors or get full memories sometimes and have these direct experiences that when they came out

• 1:17:09Speaker 03

  of their ritual, they would bring them out into the world and teach everybody else. But to do that, not anybody can just do that, you know? You have to be able to hold your conscious form in that realm, because anyone that's gone through one of these experiences know that it's kind of like you're, you're at the mercy of this experience, you know, you're kind of getting thrown around. But I think to answer that question of like, well, how long does it take their science to do that? I think that was actually the first core part of the science, was learning how to navigate that world and then everything else kind of would come easy if you could know how to access the information of, how do I, how do I geelify this rock? How do I, how do I move it?

• 1:17:51Speaker 03

  How do I, because it would, it would give you secrets to nature that you're not necessarily going to see with your limited sensory perception. It's gonna be something internal, it's gnosis, that's what they called it in the ancient world, is direct knowledge of how the mechanics of the natural world actually work.

• 1:18:05Joe Rogan?

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• 1:20:15Joe Rogan?

  Just go to thefarmersdog.com/rogan. This offer is for new customers only. Jamie, see if you can find the hieroglyphs of the path to the afterworld or the afterlife.

• 1:20:28Speaker 03

  I think it's KV7, I think it's, that's Ramsey's burial chamber.

• 1:20:35Joe Rogan?

  That's weird as fuck.

• 1:20:36Speaker 04

  As you guys keep saying spells, I keep thinking of prompts for...

• 1:20:39Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 1:20:40Speaker 04

  And if you don't know the right prompt, you know, you're not gonna get the right thing.

• 1:20:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:20:46Joe Rogan?

  Or it's gonna give you-

• 1:20:46Speaker 04

  It's just as magical.

• 1:20:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh dude, I think you just nailed something.

• 1:20:50Speaker 03

  Damn Jamie.

• 1:20:50Speaker 04

  Sorry.

• 1:20:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so why you pause?

• 1:20:53Speaker 03

  Jamie, you need to write a book.

• 1:20:54Speaker 04

  Hey, keep sending the path.

• 1:20:56Joe Rogan?

  That's, wow.

• 1:20:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, I keep saying, I'm like, that's-

• 1:21:01Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:21:02Speaker 04

  You gotta, and if you don't say it right, you're not gonna get the right answer back.

• 1:21:04Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:21:05Speaker 04

  Done that a lot.

• 1:21:07Speaker 03

  So, so yeah, if you knew how to prompt that experience, a DMT-like experience, and this is what you're- So the, the snake around, the, the, whenever it's in the hieroglyphs is, is, they'll say it's protection, you know? But that's what I'm saying, if, by holding your conscious form, holding a space for your conscious form, you, you essentially become an observer in this world that can navigate it. And it's protected by this, this, your, your own personal vibration that you had to build up through this temple initiation protocol.

• 1:21:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, it certainly also could be under the spell of a psychedelic experience, which a lot of people encounter serpents.

• 1:21:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, that's like a main motif in, in-

• 1:21:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like, look, he's got the serpents around him as he's traveling.

• 1:21:52Speaker 03

  Look at the-

• 1:21:52Joe Rogan?

  And look, he's all white, like he's in a protected bubble.

• 1:21:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:21:57Joe Rogan?

  Like he's in a vehicle.

• 1:21:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's, so this is, you'll see this-

• 1:22:01Joe Rogan?

  What's on his head, too?

• 1:22:02Speaker 03

  You'll see, that's the solar disc.

• 1:22:04Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:22:05Speaker 03

  That's canoe, yeah.

• 1:22:07Joe Rogan?

  What's the solar disc?

• 1:22:08Speaker 03

  Solar di- the, that's, so the boat there, in, in my interpretation of this, is a wormhole. Essentially, the way that we would describe a wormhole. You can click that one, Jamie, that you're hovering over. Yeah, that's, so the solar boat is the method of transport, and this is why I say it's, it's like a direct download, because this was the protocol of, like, where they were going, where they were, how you find them, and they would put down the prompt to, to reach them.

• 1:22:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Ow, fuck it, like, why are they writing this stuff down?

• 1:22:41Speaker 03

  That's what I'm-

• 1:22:42Joe Rogan?

  You know what I'm saying? Like, is this nonsense, or is this, are they trying to explain something? That's an actual process?

• 1:22:49Speaker 03

  Jamie, look up the Book of Caverns.

• 1:22:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're gonna love this one.

• 1:22:57Speaker 03

  Okay, go to, there are these weird figures on the Book of Caverns.

• 1:23:02Speaker 04

  Like that thing?

• 1:23:03Speaker 03

  Um, no, the very first one had them, click it and you'll probably get a better one, uh...

• 1:23:10Joe Rogan?

  Ken Kesey wrote a book on that? Oh, Introduction by Ken Kesey.

• 1:23:13Speaker 03

  That one tour Egypt, right, right there, that tour Egypt one? Click that one, right above ya, right above ya. Okay, now go to that file extract from the Book of Caverns Wikimedia Commons. Up there, yeah. Look at the creatures on the bottom there. What the hell are those?

• 1:23:30Speaker 03

  This one is crazy, man. This, the Book of Cavern is like some of the most wild hieroglyphic imagery you're gonna see.

• 1:23:40Speaker 03

  That's like, that, to me, I'm, I'm, I'm going full Nephilim on that one.

• 1:23:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what the fuck are those things?

• 1:23:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, and there's, there's-

• 1:23:47Joe Rogan?

  And they're all uniform?

• 1:23:48Speaker 03

  There's optical physics in another page, like the spherical refraction, um, the, the diagram for spherical refraction is, is the image.

• 1:24:02Joe Rogan?

  Where, where's that? So the, the Ken Kesey thing's actually just a novel?

• 1:24:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:24:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, there's another one, maybe scroll down on this one that you're looking at here, uh...

• 1:24:14Joe Rogan?

  What should, what would be the spell that we'd put into the-

• 1:24:19Speaker 03

  What's the, what the prompt spell? I've got, I really see there-

• 1:24:23Joe Rogan?

  Would you say spherical refraction?

• 1:24:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, so the optics of a sphere, this is gonna blow your mind, they put this on, um, it's the scroll of, uh... Queen Kent cow-

• 1:24:33Joe Rogan?

  How about spherical refraction, Jamie? Yeah.

• 1:24:38Speaker 03

  I mean, I ain't got no signal in here.

• 1:24:40Joe Rogan?

  Is this it? The top, that one in the middle? Right there where Jamie's-

• 1:24:45Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 1:24:46Joe Rogan?

  It says Egyptian occult? It, it shows some sort of refraction above that?

• 1:24:52Speaker 03

  Using a Mac, Jamie?

• 1:24:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:24:54Speaker 03

  I could, I'm gonna airdrop this to you, actually. This is why I had my stuff prepped.

• 1:25:01Joe Rogan?

  What is all this stuff right here?

• 1:25:03Speaker 03

  So, this is, uh, these are in burial, these are the burial chambers, the actual burial chambers, not the, not the pyramids. So they write all the-

• 1:25:11Joe Rogan?

  Whoa, and look at those freaky dudes are on the bottom, the same freaky dudes, but they're on their knees.

• 1:25:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I'm telling you, it's the weirdest stuff you'll ever see. The hieroglyphs you see above ground and in the, like, regular temples, nothing like this.

• 1:25:22Joe Rogan?

  They all have long ass fingers.

• 1:25:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, I wanna search for that.

• 1:25:26Joe Rogan?

  There are all these very bizarre looking creatures with long fingers.

• 1:25:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:25:34Joe Rogan?

  And they were standing up, walking in the other hieroglyphs, and in this one, they're all leaning down. But it seems, it seems to be important that they document the size of their digits in their hands.

• 1:25:46Speaker 03

  They're, they're utterly unlike any other figures that you see depicted, too.

• 1:25:51Joe Rogan?

  Jamie, can you go back to the images we were just talking about? We were just looking at? And, yeah, that one, and make those guys on the bottom bigger? Like, what the fuck are those things?

• 1:26:02Speaker 03

  They look almost tied up, too.

• 1:26:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, it looks like they're on their knees, like they're in a box.

• 1:26:07Speaker 03

  And the nested gate thing, that, that, you see that all over the temples, the, the things that they're trapped in right next to it is like a, this nested gate, kind of stone doorway type thing that you see everywhere.

• 1:26:20Joe Rogan?

  Go back to that image again? Oh, there it is, like, what the fuck are those things, man?

• 1:26:26Speaker 03

  And they don't have heads here?

• 1:26:28Joe Rogan?

  They don't have heads, and they have these weird, long appendages that come off of their, almost like they have two armed, like, two lower arms.

• 1:26:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:26:41Joe Rogan?

  And, so, when you see it larger, it, I thought they were fingers. But now it looks way weirder than that.

• 1:26:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're, they're definitely, is, one of the, one of the things I think is, uh, and they're always kind of lower, too, so like, spirits of the underworld, I guess, like the darker, darker ones.

• 1:26:59Joe Rogan?

  Fucking weird.

• 1:27:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was gonna try to use a search to try to ask what's in the bottom of the image, you know?

• 1:27:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, good idea. What, what is, what's the conventional explanation for what those things are? Dear Perplexity, help us out.

• 1:27:14Speaker 04

  What's on the bottom of this image?

• 1:27:18Joe Rogan?

  Here we go. Our wonderful AI sponsor, Perplexity.

• 1:27:23Joe Rogan?

  Checking available files.

• 1:27:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's gonna be hard, it's gonna have to do some research here.

• 1:27:27Joe Rogan?

  Stylized, human-like figures, some painted black.

• 1:27:33Joe Rogan?

  Wow, Perplexity's taking its time on this one, usually it bangs stuff out quick. It's freaking out.

• 1:27:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:39Joe Rogan?

  It's like, this is, you can't know this. Hey! This is like we're asking it to, to tell us how to make a bomb. We tried to talk it to it the other day to teach us how to smoke PCP.

• 1:27:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:52Joe Rogan?

  It wouldn't do it.

• 1:27:52Speaker 03

  Aw, man. You're not, you're not using the right spell, dude.

• 1:27:56Joe Rogan?

  Eventually, we convinced it that we're on PCP. Um, wow, look how slow it's going.

• 1:28:02Speaker 03

  Can I airdrop a link to you, Jamie?

• 1:28:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, do you see it, it should, uh-

• 1:28:05Joe Rogan?

  Here it goes.

• 1:28:06Speaker 04

  See if I can-

• 1:28:08Joe Rogan?

  Some painted black and others red, walking or standing in sequence, to the left of them are three wavy, snake-like horizontal symbols. Yeah, I understand that, but what is it?

• 1:28:17Speaker 04

  Human-like figures.

• 1:28:21Joe Rogan?

  They look, they look headless. Small, standing, human figures in Egyptian-style profile, rendered to silhouettes rather than detailed people. Their long, slightly bent bodies and arms suggest they may be repeated depictions of a deity or ritual participants, but the image alone is not enough to identify them confidently. Yeah, they don't have an answer, they're just, they're just describing it to us.

• 1:28:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, you can add, like, the Book of the Caverns, too, and it might tell you a little bit more.

• 1:28:46Joe Rogan?

  Did you send that refracted-

• 1:28:48Speaker 03

  I, I'm trying to- How do I get this to you, Jamie?

• 1:28:51Speaker 04

  Airdrop?

• 1:28:53Speaker 03

  It's like a link in Canva, I have-

• 1:28:57Joe Rogan?

  I think I can airdrop a link.

• 1:28:58Speaker 03

  Okay, let's try that.

• 1:29:02Speaker 03

  Airdrop.

• 1:29:04Joe Rogan?

  So, has, have you had anybody explain to you with those headless, weird-looking things?

• 1:29:10Speaker 03

  No. Sometimes I just, I, I will encounter stuff while looking for this, and it, like, it'll, it'll pop up into my head, and I went to, I met a bunch of people in Egypt, and so I'll send it to them, and often, there's not a lot of, like, we have a really poor understanding of hieroglyphs, I wanna, like, make that very clear. The Greeks didn't get everything from hieroglyphs. They, the Greeks, they, the Egyptian priests, the ancient, ancient Egyptian priests, they didn't tell the Greeks everything, you know? And so we have the Rosetta Stone that translates the phonetics of hieroglyphs. We know how they spoke hieroglyphics, like, their, their language. But we don't know what their meanings were. We had the best interpretation from the Greeks of what they mean, but that's it.

• 1:29:52Speaker 03

  Like, we're, we're not, we, we didn't get this straight from the, the horse's mouth, and it was what I'm saying. This is like, there was never someone that walked a Greek guy, like, through a temple, like, this is what this means. That's not how they taught people. So, we're still, like, kinda throwing our, our darts in the dark here with a lot of this stuff. And that's why I, I take the mainstream a little bit seriously in terms of, like, what the idea is, but you also have to look at it like they were probably looking at it, and, which is not the way that we would look at it, right? So...

• 1:30:23Speaker 03

  Let's see if I can do this.

• 1:30:25Joe Rogan?

  So this thing that you're sending, Jamie, what's the, um... What's the significance of it?

• 1:30:32Speaker 03

  So, it's, it's basically matching up, like, I'm, I, what I like to do is show physics in my, like, my videos, right, of them accurately describing processes, uh, that we understand today, but only through our scientific method, right? So, that's kind of like a, uh... I don't know, a little, little sledgehammer blow I like to take to these, to these things, but, um... Yeah, Jamie, I can't, I, I don't know if I can airdrop a link.

• 1:31:01Speaker 03

  It's showing you're here, but...

• 1:31:05Speaker 03

  I can airdrop a file, I'll just airdrop you the file.

• 1:31:11Joe Rogan?

  Bear with us, ladies and gentlemen, as we scramble.

• 1:31:14Speaker 03

  So sorry.

• 1:31:18Speaker 04

  I was looking it up. It says, the perplexity is sort of saying it's like a depiction of the underworld. That's sort of what you were saying.

• 1:31:24Speaker 03

  This is, it's always, it's always underworld, it's always fertility, it's always protection, but like, that's such a broad term.

• 1:31:29Joe Rogan?

  And they're getting it from academic research.

• 1:31:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:31:32Joe Rogan?

  They're getting it from whatever textbooks have been written about it.

• 1:31:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. So there's a, there's a huge gap in between our interpretation, because we kind of put a blanket over all of these cultures. And they didn't treat things like we say that they treat these things. And even if you go to places that still have a really good cultural anchor, like Peru, they, they don't agree with what we say this thing was, you know? They don't agree that the Incas built the pre-Inca looking stonework.

• 1:32:03Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:32:03Speaker 03

  They, they, they don't claim that, but we will say that the Inca did it. And so that, that was always a huge problem for me. Uh, like trying to make sense of all this stuff is like, well, they're saying this. Why do I believe you just because you are at a university and this is in a textbook I'm reading, you know?

• 1:32:18Joe Rogan?

  Right. Alright, here we go. So, what are we looking at?

• 1:32:22Speaker 03

  There we go. There's a, yeah. So this is in that same book, the Book of the Caverns, right? This is just a different page of it. But what you're looking at down there is, um, this guy, Art of Clay Taylor, I use his stuff all the time, is like, just did this amazing analysis of the... So what's happening is there's being light, this is how a sphere refracts.

• 1:32:41Joe Rogan?

  Go back to the top, please.

• 1:32:43Speaker 04

  It's hard to show on the screen for everybody.

• 1:32:45Joe Rogan?

  Can you, uh, shrink it?

• 1:32:46Speaker 04

  No, no one can see it on the screen.

• 1:32:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I see on TV?

• 1:32:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to.

• 1:32:50Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:32:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, so the, the comparison basically, um, you see where the, the beam is going in a perfectly straight line there?

• 1:32:58Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:32:58Speaker 03

  So that's containing all of these, uh, the deities, you can see that they are pulling the, the, the end there is Khunum. He is, uh, man, we have to go through the entire Egyptian pantheon to explain this, but basically what it's saying is there, there's a, a energy, a knowledge, a wisdom being transmitted through this, this light. And when you look at it, it is the exact optical refraction of a sphere. And so that's, the, the solar disk is basically the transmitter of this, this information, the deity's consciousness. So how you manipulate that light is what we see in the actual temples. And so it's basically a tuning fork.

• 1:33:40Speaker 03

  The, they use the light as a tuning fork to get this information or to navigate through this underworld spiritual realm. And the evidence of that for me is in the perfect optical refraction of a sphere.

• 1:33:52Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy that it completely aligns.

• 1:33:55Speaker 03

  No, it's, it's, it's dead on.

• 1:33:58Joe Rogan?

  And there's a sphere.

• 1:33:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:33:59Joe Rogan?

  So there's a sphere at the right side of the image.

• 1:34:02Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm gonna blow your mind even more here.

• 1:34:03Joe Rogan?

  And the spherical refraction that you see that's mirrored down below it, what actually happens with the light in a sphere? You've seen the exact thing, including the reversal of the images, top and bottom.

• 1:34:18Speaker 03

  So, so Jamie, if you open that last one, I'll make, this one'll make sense. At the tip of that, that image that we saw, you know, you had that straight line going through it. If you overlay the, the Great Pyramid over this spherical refraction, it is, one, we, we know that the angle of a rainbow is in the side of the pyramid. It is, it, in the concave part of it, because the Great Pyramid's eight-sided. There's a line that goes right through it. That is the angle of a double, of a double rainbow. And the, the way that the sphere refracts the light is the exact layout of the Great Pyramid.

• 1:34:56Speaker 03

  And so where the, the Grand Gallery goes, that, that middle part that I'm pointing the area, there, the, uh, yeah, I'm pointing the arrow to, that is where, right on the tip of the, of the, the sphere, it breaks the colors up into the seven colors of the, uh, rainbow, right? Rogi Biv.

• 1:35:16Joe Rogan?

  And when you say it's an eight-sided pyramid, how, how are you saying that?

• 1:35:20Speaker 04

  Uh, I can show a picture of it.

• 1:35:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's, it greatly complicates the construction process being eight-sided as well. So it's, you only see it on the equinox, I believe. It's a shadow of, yeah, so.

• 1:35:36Speaker 04

  So like, they're counting that as two sides, because it's...

• 1:35:39Speaker 03

  It's, it's dented in on the flat sides a little bit. It's got a concavity. But you can only see it certain times a year.

• 1:35:45Joe Rogan?

  So it looks like it's four-sided.

• 1:35:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:35:47Joe Rogan?

  Each, so, okay. So do you think that when it was covered in limestone, that was more prevalent?

• 1:35:52Speaker 03

  No. I, I think they probably smoothed it out. I think it's a more of a functional aspect of it. Because when you, when you actually, when you look at the tuning of the pyramids, they, they kind of...

• 1:36:01Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:36:02Speaker 03

  They, they resonate at the Schumann cavity resonances. And so I think this was a deliberate focusing of those radio frequencies down into the electromagnetic spectrum.

• 1:36:13Joe Rogan?

  Go back to those images that you were just showing, please?

• 1:36:15Speaker 04

  Which ones?

• 1:36:15Joe Rogan?

  The ones you just had on screen?

• 1:36:16Speaker 03

  The pyramid one?

• 1:36:18Joe Rogan?

  Go back, make it larger. I mean, uh, scroll back, scroll back so I can see the rest of the left side of the screen. So there's that right there. So the Great Pyramid is not eight-sided. What is that?

• 1:36:27Speaker 04

  I mean, this is a thumbnail from YouTube. I don't, I mean, they, we could go down and watch the video and see what they're saying.

• 1:36:32Joe Rogan?

  Or is it, it says? Oh, or is it?

• 1:36:34Speaker 03

  So you can see it when you go there, you'll see a small, uh, weird spot in the middle of the Great Pyramid that looks like there's something there, but you only see it really from above on certain times of the year.

• 1:36:46Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:36:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:36:47Joe Rogan?

  And what do you think this function was?

• 1:36:51Speaker 03

  So when you manipulate the shape of a tetrahedron or a pyramid, what it does is it adjusts the focus internally. So it'll adjust the shape of the, it's, it's, there's a quantum process for it. But it adjusts the, the, basically the output of what the, what the shape is doing. So if it's, uh, we're, we're tapping into like a radio wave frequency band in terms of how big the Great Pyramid is. But there's, there was a study in 2018 that showed that it can convert radio waves into electromagnetic energy into the ground. And it's doing this passively. It's not like a, it's not like Chris Dunn's idea, right now, you know?

• 1:37:30Speaker 03

  Maybe it was at some point, but, um, what it actually does is it interacts with the electromagnetic spectrum and the radio frequencies that are, that are bouncing around the, the Schumann cavity, which is where we exist in, right? And so what I think was happening is internally, there's these chambers and these specific little nodes that were like, filters, like bandpass filters, or, or, you know, taking a, a bigger wave that's passing through this and creating something inside of it that kind of slips through and that can utilize the frequencies that are, that are passing through it.

• 1:38:10Speaker 03

  So to me, they're like more of a sink than they were like a transmitter. I think a lot of people think they were a transmitter. I think they were, they were sinking the, this flow of energy into the ground. Yeah. So those bands there are the radio frequency bands, and they tested this, ooh, I think it was 2018? Yeah, 2018.

• 1:38:31Joe Rogan?

  And so how do they, how do they think this is happening?

• 1:38:34Speaker 03

  So I think they did a little, I think they did a model of it there. I'm not a hundred percent sure on the...

• 1:38:43Speaker 03

  I think, I think they made a model of it and they tested it in a, in a closed environment, but, um, I, I don't think they actually got out there with the, you know, some sort of device that read the signal in the ground. But what the, what they're saying basically is the geometry does that. The geometry focuses the, the energy. It's an, it's an alchemical process. You're taking a bigger wave and you're down, down converting it into a smaller wave. And so that, that can interact with the environment as well. So if you change the soil conductivity or the electrical gradients that are moving through the crust of the earth, then that affects plant growth.

• 1:39:20Speaker 03

  That affects germination rates. That affects a whole bunch of things. It affects how, how li- lively an ecosystem is, is directly related to soil conductivity. And so at, at minimum, it was in interacting in that way. So at, at maximum, they were probably routing it in other ways, too.

• 1:39:39Speaker 04

  What, what? First of all, how'd they learn this?

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• 1:41:15Speaker 03

  So this is the importance of, this is why I think it's infrastructure, because I think that, you know, if we're talking about these planetary cycles and stuff like that, the civilization that was before the dynastic Egyptians, the ones that built the infrastructure like Osirian, Osiris shaft and pyramids, they probably had to do some environmental modification to make civilization work in certain areas. I think maybe the Earth went through something quite serious before the Younger Dryas even, and this was kind of a recovery system for that. And when you look at the work of, you know, Gerald Pollack does like easy water, like structured water.

• 1:41:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:41:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, he does, because that's what your body uses. Your body is water, but it's structured water. It's a liquid crystal. And it, that's because it can carry nutrients and electricity and basically all you need for life is in structured water. And every temple was interacting with this structured water. Or at least a body of water, an intersection between the two, and Randall talks about this endlessly too. But so there's this geometric interface between the ionosphere and the telluric currents or ground currents that controls soil conductivity, right? So if I put a geometric interface between the two, then I can shape that. And then if I shape it even more with an underground network of pipes and systems that are distributing this out to the environment, like we see at Angkor Wat and at Dushur in

• 1:42:36Speaker 03

  Egypt, then this starts to become an ecological machine essentially, that has no moving parts, but is interacting with the environment in a way that like, the best thing I can say is terraforming. You know, they were terraforming or creating a local ecology that could sustain life where they wanted to live, in the most productive parts of the world, I guess.

• 1:43:03Joe Rogan?

  So with this geometric pattern, so with the pyramid itself, what do you think the structure underneath it is? Do you have a theory, like what the purpose of it was?

• 1:43:13Speaker 03

  If they are the, the shape that Filippo is saying that they are, you know, if they are accurately that big and that large, then those to me sound, they look like tuning forks. They look like there's some sort of resonant cavities in a way that if it's, if we're focusing that energy from, you know, the atmosphere down into the ground, then the shape of it, you're essentially looking at the top of an obelisk. And we know what the obelisks look like, and we know the obelisk ring. And so all of these, these things are lining up. So, so the Great Pyramid itself, the main thing is made of limestone, right?

• 1:43:56Speaker 03

  And then you have the King's Chamber that's made of rose granite that was transported from 500 fucking miles away, but they're...

• 1:44:03Joe Rogan?

  300 tons. 80 tons.

• 1:44:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, no big deal. But the rose granite's interesting. The rose granite has, is high in quartz, so it's piezoelectric, and then it is also ferromagnetic. That's why it's rose, there's a lot of iron in it. So if it is taking, if the Great Pyramid is taking in these radio waves, and then essentially focusing them into electromagnetic energy, that energy's passing through the King's Chamber, which would interact with that in a way that would basically tune that energies, like the spontaneous synchronization of the consciousness we were talking about earlier. Same concept going into the ground. So if we're taking this and we're tuning that energy going into the ground that our plants and our light, our humans can work with, then, then we have a system of cultivating

• 1:44:50Speaker 03

  this Garden of Eden essentially, in any area that we want. You can, if you can bring these little devices and you can put a note here, and a note here, and a note here, and a note here, then you create this vast network of a very livable environment. And when they don't work, then you have a very arid environment that is unlivable, which is what they, what we see in Egypt now. And so...

• 1:45:13Joe Rogan?

  So you think it was geoengineering?

• 1:45:15Speaker 03

  I think it was, no, I think it was, you can't say our phones are just phones, right? Our phones do way more than that.

• 1:45:23Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:45:24Speaker 03

  I think their main purpose was stabilizing the local ecology and the environment of these places. I think that was a main purpose. A secondary purpose was learning and teaching humans how to use this energy in other ways that benefited life in general. So organizing society in a, in a proper, you know, civilization would be very important. Engineering things to withstand earthquakes and environmental disasters would be very important. Hydrology would be very important. All of these things seem to be a part of that system as well, where once you have this, the battery's connected to my phone, my phone's working, right?

• 1:46:07Speaker 03

  But then I have to download the apps to do other stuff with it. The apps are essentially what the humans are doing. The apps become the human. You get to, you go into this place and it's, it's providing you with your, with your, your environment you can live. And then you go into the temples and it's basically your university where you download your, your information, and then you create your civilization after that. It'd be a way of boxing up a civilization and basically white labeling it so you could do it somewhere else, and using the local creatures that evolved there naturally, which would fit in perfectly with what we see, right? If Earth evolved primates naturally, and then they get modified to accept these signals

• 1:46:48Speaker 03

  by these people, these beings that came here, or that had been here already, then all you'd have to do is really find another creature that's capable of speaking, and then you have your, your template. And then that template, spliced with your genetics and connected with the system, becomes a way of living on any world that you choose.

• 1:47:08Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so you think that this was, so in this ability that these things have to control the environment and make it more hospitable, do you think this has an ability to affect weather? Do you think they're doing that? Do you think they're making more plant growth? What do you think they're doing with this?

• 1:47:30Speaker 03

  Both. So we have to separate these out into certain, I'll separate it into three main categories here. So we have the Americas, which was like the biologist, biologists, they were the lab of, that worked with the plants. They were, they're, we see this in all of their sacred sites, right? They were acclimatizing crops, they were living in Machu Picchu where they could grow food up on top of mountains, they would, they were still close to sea level where they could manipulate that whole environment too. They were masters of, of working with this. Like the entire Amazon is, is pretty much engineered by humans. So that, to me is, is like going to school for biology or agriculture.

• 1:48:13Speaker 03

  And then you have Europe, the European area, Greco-Roman stuff, which is ordering society and making sure that that resources are distributed properly and, and humans can, regardless of how you think about that, the Romans were the most successful empire builders of all time, and they, they did that by absorbing different belief systems. So they were kind of transmuting the, the different thoughts of the people around them and in their empire to work for the, the greater good, I guess. And then you have Egypt, which is consciousness, like all conscious based, and all their hieroglyphs and stuff. They were kind of the people that were like, okay, this is how you make a connection with

• 1:48:58Speaker 03

  these natural patterns of nature that we call, they called netters, the meter, netters. But that's where we get our name for nature. The netters were these patterns of, you know, nature, consciousness and things like that. And you could essentially tap into those and gain insight, wisdom, and gnosis through that. And then you have the Hindu and the Pacific Islands over here, which if you look at all of their stuff, they were working with the water. They were prepping the water. They were cleaning the water, they were doing all this stuff to water. You have Hindu stepwells, every one of them has a Shivaliam that you pour water on to, you know, as their ritual, which purifies and makes the water sacred.

• 1:49:42Speaker 03

  And then you get into the Pacific Islands, you have places like Angkor Wat, which is the most hydrological, hydrologically advanced system that we've ever seen in the ancient world. And we still don't know if it's, it's true scale, right? And so I like, I like using Angkor Wat because it's kind of a good example of what this ancient system was, where they all have a piece of, of the same, I guess, theory, they all have the technology, but they have specializations for implementing it into reality. And so with that, you have your, your population evolves in terms of intellect and ability in controlling the environment and survivability.

• 1:50:25Speaker 03

  And so you have a school, essentially a human school, of teaching humans how to cultivate this, this living thing on this planet, which is the planet itself. It's basically awakening the planet to intelligence, whether that's plant life, human intelligence, whatever works with this type of energy, that was the system for implementing it, is the, is the temple system. And so the evidence in that for, for my line of research would be, okay, we have clear examples of our tech doing this. And this is what it does. And this stuff, one, yeah, this looks like this, whatever, but we're working with different scales. If you're looking at the layout of these temples, we're working with the electromagnetic

• 1:51:07Speaker 03

  spectrum in our phones, and they are working in the acoustic spectrum with the temples. They're all tuned to crazy resonances everywhere, and their note, their notation for that was flowers essentially, and the flowers match up with climatic patterns. And so these are essentially the keys to working with the, with the different temple frequencies inside of it. So you're, you're an operator, you're like driving this thing essentially of, of what it can do.

• 1:51:33Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ. How the hell did they learn this?

• 1:51:39Speaker 03

  Your guess is as good as mine, dude. I'm just trying to DJ the stuff and figure out this knowledge.

• 1:51:45Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's a fascinating perspective, but it also makes you think, like, what are we really talking about?

• 1:51:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:51:50Joe Rogan?

  What does this civilization look like? What does this pre-existing civilization look like? What is the earliest versions of it?

• 1:51:56Speaker 03

  Well, there's a lot of interesting, and this stuff is kind of on the fringes, but like, let's say that, you know, the Martian world was our original home, and it got unlivable, something happened to it, there's huge scars on Mars, like, something horrible could have happened to that place. So, let's say they had that much time to evolve as a civilization, like, on another planet. And we're trying to figure out how to terraform Mars right now, Elon's doing that. So, this back and forth, like, okay, we need to have a backup world, isn't a foreign concept. It's not something that would be wildly out there to suggest that we should probably find a way of living on another world, right?

• 1:52:37Speaker 03

  Now, let's extrapolate that, say your whole solar system's dying, or say you need a, you know, you're trying to colonize another world because yours is too full of people. Well, if you have this system already, that's not a problem. You don't even have to move things physically. It's an interconnected system that works with the local, the local environment, and the local star that it's in, and it's connected to all these other stars, and they've somehow figured out this network that without moving bodies, physical bodies, you could transfer consciousness, we see that in mummies. So if they can do that, then a star system in Orion, or the Pleiades, or wherever that we're, these things are aligned to, essentially has a communication base, like a router, in this system, you know?

• 1:53:22Speaker 03

  So, you say, like, oh, how long would it take to do that? But we're talking about Earth timescales. What if that's not even a factor? What if they had billions of years of evolution, and they just use Earth as a waypoint, or a seed bank, or somewhere to store their information, so that, let's say something does happen on a planet in Orion, they can come back to Earth, retrieve some genetics from corn, and then go to another planet and plant corn, and they can have corn over there, you know, like? That, to me, seems more reasonable than saying, uh, these things just popped out of nowhere, and they're just amazingly sophisticated, and they don't have any connection with anything else, they just popped up, and you should believe this story.

• 1:54:04Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, but it's the oldest stuff that we can find.

• 1:54:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:54:07Joe Rogan?

  The oldest stuff that we can find is the most perplexing.

• 1:54:10Speaker 03

  Well, the Peru example, Jay Anderson, I think you've got him on, right? Jay Anderson?

• 1:54:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, so he just released his series, I think it's called Ancient Technologies, and he went through Alante Tombo, and was showing how scattered and stuff that stuff, like, the megalithic blocks are just thrown everywhere. And then the low-tech, stone-stacking mortar stuff is right on top of it, right? So if that story's correct, if the original history of this stuff is correct, what we're being told, at least, then the crappier work would have had to survive something that threw a megalithic block off a mountain. If the Inca built all of this, then the crappier work on top is dated to the same, they're throwing it into the same date range, right?

• 1:54:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:57Speaker 03

  Something that threw a megalithic block off a mountain didn't touch the crappy brickwork that was on top of it.

• 1:55:05Speaker 03

  No, it doesn't make any sense, yeah.

• 1:55:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, also, there's also evidence in all these cultures, like, when, particularly Lebanon and all these different places, that there seems to be this habit that people have of building on top of far older stuff, and it exists everywhere. And we need to assume that that's the case, I think, because it seems to be the case everywhere. When they find something incredibly complex and ancient, they build on top of that area. And then, there's so much evidence of these cultures that find pre-existing structures. This is the Aztecs. Like, we don't really know who built these Aztec pyramids, which is really weird. I thought, my whole life, the Aztecs built the Aztec pyramids.

• 1:55:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:55:48Joe Rogan?

  Duh, right? And then you find out, oh no, they don't even say they did it. They called it the place where the gods were born.

• 1:55:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:55:55Joe Rogan?

  And so that stuff existed at least a thousand years before they were there.

• 1:56:00Speaker 03

  And that just doesn't, it doesn't fit with the level of sophistication that this, that the story itself comes with. The cultures come with this really sophisticated and what seems like encoded language, in terms, we say it's like they're legends, but if you look at even stuff like the Quran or the Bible, there's stuff hidden in there numerically, and in the legends themselves, that can be extracted from it, that seemed to be intentional. That happens all over the ancient world. All of their stuff seems to be like that. Which is the weirdest thing to me, because if you know all of this,

• 1:56:43Speaker 03

  if that theory's correct, and they were, you know, terraforming, or at least connecting on a, like, conscious internet level type of a thing, the only way you could really transmit that, and they did this, is like, having a really good legend to orally transmit, and that you could, you know, make songs out of, and stuff like that. But, once it's down on, you know, in a language, in like Sanskrit, or Hieroglyphics, or whatever, uh, once it's down in a language, then you have the inability to really look at it objectively, because the guy that can read Sanskrit says, "This means this," and you can't read Sanskrit, so you're like, "Oh, obviously this means this."

• 1:57:24Speaker 03

  But what doesn't lie is the geometry, and that's what I'm focusing on mostly, is showing that this geometry has a function, and we use it every day, in our devices. And if we scale that up, then we're just working with different levels of vibration, in terms of, you know, seismic waves going through the Earth, and that is the equivalent, essentially, of what our phones are doing with the electromagnetic spectrum. So, their interaction geometrically with the natural, you know, humming of the Earth and the natural processes of the Earth.

• 1:58:05Joe Rogan?

  And also of space.

• 1:58:07Speaker 03

  And of space, yeah. The natural bridge between that is the actual connection. That is what they say, in the ancient texts. If I'm translating it, that's how I read it, is, they're saying, "To connect to the Earth here, you have to build this temple here." Essentially, putting a processor, our processor, on this spot. And to connect to the energy that that processor needs to run, then you have to align it to this star when the sun rises, on this day. And to calculate that, you need to know the cardinal directions, and that's why they're all cardinally aligned. So, you have these different clues in archaeoastronomy as well, that are kind of validating the theories,

• 1:58:44Speaker 03

  and what most people would write off is the stuff that I'm, like, looking directly at, like, that, the legendary stuff that seems too crazy to be real, well, that's probably just the best vocab they had to describe the process. We have the ability to use English, which is a very high-tech language. It absorbs all other languages, and we have ways of making new words, and it evolves over time. Their systems really didn't, you know? So they had this, they had one thing, like, hieroglyphs usually had like seven meanings per hieroglyph. So you had to, like, find which one in context of the hieroglyph it was. Whereas ours is hyper-specific, so our language being used to translate this stuff is inherently gonna be muddy,

• 1:59:29Speaker 03

  because their concepts were much larger, a picture's worth a thousand words, that's what the hieroglyphs were, and now we have to take the hieroglyph and make it into a thousand words, because that's our way of understanding it.

• 1:59:40Joe Rogan?

  That's a really good way of putting it. And we know this is the case, where things are lost in translation.

• 1:59:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:59:47Joe Rogan?

  It's very complicated when you're just going from Russian to English, or, you know, we've seen that in scam letters, when people go from foreign languages and they try to talk, like, pretend like they're speaking English as a native language, and they fuck things up, and you're like, "Hey, you're not really from Kansas."

• 2:00:03Speaker 03

  Hey, John.

• 2:00:07Speaker 03

  That's why I'm actually from Kansas.

• 2:00:08Joe Rogan?

  It completely makes sense. It completely makes sense that, especially when you deal with other ancient languages, like, we know this about ancient Hebrew, right, that ancient Hebrew letters doubled as numbers, which is really weird.

• 2:00:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:00:20Joe Rogan?

  So imagine, there was like numerical value in words.

• 2:00:24Speaker 03

  Oh, dude. Extrapolate, check this out, okay? So, like, ancient Mayan glyphs, for example, they are based, like, almost solely on cycles, fits directly in with this genetic engineering, like, biological engineering framework that they use, right? The Egyptian language is more closely related to engineering diagrams than it is an actual language. They can be read, some of them can be read almost like, um, like you're looking at a part diagram, and there's different views of the part, you know? And then, the...

• 2:01:03Speaker 03

  Hindu language is based on like flow, water type of a, it's, it eventually evolves into Buddhism, right? Which is basically harmonizing the flow of, of your reality. So each one of these languages evolves into its, its function in this world, right? So we kinda have to like, we have to look at it from that perspective as well. Instead of, instead of blanketing all of this as this was a ritual, or like this was for protection, or this was for fertility. Well, yeah, it is, but that has such a huge, it has a different impact on whatever function that you're using it for.

• 2:01:42Speaker 03

  So that's, that's, their manual essentially is, is their, um, style of how they're communicating this stuff. And what, what that looks like in the environment itself.

• 2:01:54Joe Rogan?

  Whoo. And that's the craziest, the crazy thing about the hieroglyphs, that this emerged.

• 2:02:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:02:02Joe Rogan?

  Out of nowhere. And that we don't have like early hieroglyphs, we don't have a crude version of it.

• 2:02:10Speaker 03

  There's, there's not even a, you would think that like you have a, you have a starting symbol like X marks the spot or whatever. Like this means, um, I'm the king of something. And then you just grow that into a vocabulary. Like most of these emerge having a fully sophisticated vocabulary of concepts that right now we are still trying to understand. That's how sophisticated they were is they don't make sense to us. Because it seems like they, if we're looking at it from a primitive lens, how could they be talking about some quantum physics here? Or optics.

• 2:02:41Joe Rogan?

  You know, one of the weird things about these kids, these telepathy tape, tape kids is some of them can read hieroglyphs?

• 2:02:47Speaker 03

  Like off the rip, like no?

• 2:02:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. No education.

• 2:02:50Speaker 03

  So this would, this would mean they probably downloaded that information somehow.

• 2:02:54Joe Rogan?

  From the hill?

• 2:02:54Speaker 03

  From the hill.

• 2:02:56Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:02:56Speaker 03

  And the, and the primordial mound is in every culture.

• 2:02:59Speaker 04

  The, the description on it was that like there's a teacher there that teaches it to them.

• 2:03:03Speaker 03

  On the hill?

• 2:03:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, like they, they wanna know it, there's like a, I don't know if it's a guy or a being or what it would be, but yeah, it's like the, the, the teacher of hieroglyphs explains it to them.

• 2:03:13Speaker 03

  Did they describe the teacher at all?

• 2:03:14Speaker 04

  So I, the descriptions through telepathy tapes is now you're getting it from a kid that doesn't talk. So it's a very hard translation, but it's, yeah, sort of do.

• 2:03:25Speaker 03

  This.

• 2:03:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, this is, the question is like, is it, does it benefit the kid that it can't talk, right? It's not communicating, so it's able to, it doesn't have these, it probably doesn't even have the same sense of self that we do.

• 2:03:38Speaker 03

  Or is it routing that, that, like the energy of consciousness in the parts of the brain that would normally light up for the stuff that lights us up? Is it being rerouted into something else?

• 2:03:48Joe Rogan?

  Right. Or is that? Or are they just not in their own way? Because they don't speak verbally. Because, right?

• 2:03:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:03:55Joe Rogan?

  They're not, they're, they're, they're not attaching anything to it. It just comes to them and they don't have to process through the, the filter of culture.

• 2:04:04Speaker 03

  Do you know, do you know who Mathias de Stefano is?

• 2:04:07Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:04:07Speaker 03

  So he's a, he says he can remember his past lives? Yeah, I went to Egypt with him. And he's, yeah, he, uh.

• 2:04:15Joe Rogan?

  I bet that dude's fun at a party.

• 2:04:16Speaker 03

  No, dude, no, like a lot of my work is kinda like trying to decipher what the hell he just said. Because it makes sense to me and I gotta like put some science to this because I'm like, obviously that's right. But he's like, he said that the, um, the main method of communicating in this way was nonverbal. Is their whole society, it was basically engulfed in this field of all of this knowledge. And all you had to do is really tap into where you, what part of the field that you wanted to know this knowledge. He calls, he calls it a spider web. And sometimes he'll do this thing where he's like navigating through this spider web thing.

• 2:04:53Speaker 03

  And there's like nodes of knowledge and these guys could all navigate through this, this node of knowledge that was being held in it. Basically you're inside this, this giant supercomputer of, of, and a database that is.

• 2:05:07Joe Rogan?

  Is this like the concept of the Akashic records?

• 2:05:09Speaker 03

  Yes, yeah, that's, so same concept, different cultures and different ways of accessing it. And he said that the vibration did something with the water. It aligned the water in a, your structured water in a quantum way to where you could get to the location of this information or experience or memory or whatever. That's why water was so important to humans is because that was the interface layer of the past and the future. And that's how they were able to predict things in the future because they could just go to a different node. And if they went to this node and said, okay, the civilization is gonna collapse in, uh, you know, to 100 B.C. But if we do this, then we could survive and everything's still gonna, you know, the, the cycles are still gonna happen.

• 2:05:53Speaker 03

  But if you put this temple right here, then people are gonna dig it up and then it's gonna restart civilization. So this is why they were able to mobilize their people because they all had that shared vision of this thing happening. And they could all access it because they were bathed in this field of information that they were building with this, this temple network.

• 2:06:12Joe Rogan?

  One of the fucking weirdest things in all the hieroglyphs is these, this Stargate thing. Like that, that is so strange.

• 2:06:21Speaker 03

  Literally means Stargate.

• 2:06:23Joe Rogan?

  Literally means Stargate.

• 2:06:24Speaker 03

  So like. Our tour guide was Mohammed Ibrahim, he's awesome and he's kinda the one that, that has pushed the, the, the boundaries of reading this stuff. Cause when you go to Edfu, the building texts of Edfu are, um, so building texts are on the walls of the temple, right? The building texts of Edfu are actually the first records of Atlantis that we have. That's not Plato. The, the story of, of Atlantis is on Edfu and you can see it everywhere. There's, there's boats coming in with the, with the gods, they're carrying him in and he walks through the entire outer, outer wall of the temple. And I'll show you all.

• 2:06:58Joe Rogan?

  And where's this?

• 2:06:59Speaker 03

  Edfu, it's in Egypt, yeah.

• 2:07:01Joe Rogan?

  And so how old is this depiction of Atlantis?

• 2:07:05Speaker 03

  I, I don't know what exactly their date is, but I'm pretty sure if, if Solon got it from the, it probably lines up exactly.

• 2:07:13Joe Rogan?

  Is this online?

• 2:07:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:07:14Joe Rogan?

  Can we look at that?

• 2:07:15Speaker 03

  Edfu building text and you'll see all kinds of boats and all the.

• 2:07:18Joe Rogan?

  So that's the oldest depiction of Atlantis?

• 2:07:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, I don't know why people attribute it to, to Plato. That's the first written description that we have is Plato, but Edfu is the legend of Atlantis.

• 2:07:29Joe Rogan?

  Does it have concentric circles? Is the whole, the diagram of?

• 2:07:33Speaker 03

  They don't have that, but it has a lot of the, um, the, the plasma technology, the stuff that I was talking about, you know? It has like plasma hieroglyphs everywhere. Yeah.

• 2:07:43Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:07:43Speaker 03

  No, it has a legitimate, I, I went to Egypt to try and find this hieroglyph because I was like, it's gotta be somewhere, you know? It was everywhere dude, like every temple I went to.

• 2:07:52Joe Rogan?

  Is this it?

• 2:07:53Speaker 03

  That's Dender.

• 2:07:54Joe Rogan?

  Who's those dudes with the wings? What do they represent? That's fucking weird.

• 2:07:58Speaker 03

  So that's your, um, yeah, so the ka is the hands up and the ba, the ba is the spiritual body and that's the, the bird. So there's three aspects in Egyptian conscious cosmology where it's the mer ka ba, the light, this spiritual light body. The mer means the light, the ba is the body that can fly through it. And then the ka is the, your, essentially like your human part of it.

• 2:08:22Joe Rogan?

  So what are we, what are we looking at here?

• 2:08:24Speaker 03

  Google Edfu building text.

• 2:08:25Speaker 04

  No, this is, I'm in Atlantis, Egypt, Edfu.

• 2:08:28Speaker 03

  Okay, that one right there, if you click, oh, that's kind of a.

• 2:08:31Joe Rogan?

  Edfu building texts?

• 2:08:32Speaker 03

  Edfu, yeah, no, good, yeah, Edfu building text, Google that.

• 2:08:37Speaker 04

  Building text?

• 2:08:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:08:42Speaker 03

  They're probably not gonna, well, that one, that one's a really good one right there, but these are all over the place. That second one to your right? Yep. So this, the images of them coming across the ocean to Egypt are all over this. Like if you look right above that little thing that's cut, where the picture's cut off, the whole wall is them basically is showing their journey from another land to Egypt.

• 2:09:02Joe Rogan?

  And look how their heads have been removed.

• 2:09:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:09:05Joe Rogan?

  It's like they've been defaced.

• 2:09:07Speaker 03

  Almost everything there you'll see that has, has been scratched, the faces have been knocked off. All of the old, can, old, old, old stuff has been knocked off.

• 2:09:15Joe Rogan?

  Cause they're like, that wasn't him, it was me. It was me, bro.

• 2:09:19Speaker 03

  He's just been conquered like thirty times, so yeah.

• 2:09:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, strange how they did that, like just nuked all those guys off the record. Fuck him.

• 2:09:28Speaker 03

  At that top right there, it'll show the, them showing how to like grow plant, grow new plants. It's the, the big gods to the right and the little humans to the left, they're showing the humans how to agriculture and stuff. Yeah.

• 2:09:41Speaker 04

  Jesse Michaels posted a new podcast with this guy talking about how the pyramids, Jeffrey Drum.

• 2:09:47Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, have you had, have you heard of Jeffrey?

• 2:09:49Joe Rogan?

  I've heard of him, yeah, Land of Chem.

• 2:09:51Speaker 03

  Oh dude, his stuff is good, his, it fits perfectly.

• 2:09:53Joe Rogan?

  Go back up please. It says, uh, new theory suggests Egyptian pyramids were industrial chemical manufacturing plants intended to produce the products necessary for agriculture and metalworking. The acid residue is still on the walls of the Great Pyramid. Jeffrey Drum, uh, Land of Chem is an independent researcher who has spent nine years building the case that the pyramids made fertilizer and industrial acids powered by the earth's own electrical charge. And the chemistry backs him up. Samples taken from inside the Great Pyramid in the 1970s found a crust of calcium sulfate up to an inch thick on the walls of the Queen's chamber. And the calc, and calcium sulfate is exactly what dilutes sulfuric acid leaves behind when it meets limestone.

• 2:10:35Joe Rogan?

  A PhD chemist, Brian Cohen, has independently concluded the Great Pyramid produced sulfuric acid. Each pyramid made a different chemical from methane extracted beneath the step pyramid to hydrochloric acid in the Pyramid of Khafra. The red pyramid made ammonia and the smell is still there, strongest in the deepest chamber and fading towards the entrance. The usual explanation is bats, but Drum says the analysis of the staining on its walls found metal oxides included, including thorium. And nothing a bat colony leaves behind. Whoa, the whole plateau is wired. Iron veins run through the bedrock from beneath the pyramid out across Giza and Drum has mapped them.

• 2:11:18Joe Rogan?

  Analysis found precious metals and rare earths along the length, along their length. One sample at 35% platinum. The long stone pits beside the Great Pyramid assumed to have held ceremonial boats are in his reading circuit breakers in that network.

• 2:11:36Speaker 03

  Alright, so his, his stuff, you gotta dive into, is really good.

• 2:11:41Joe Rogan?

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• 2:12:42Speaker 06

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• 2:13:10Speaker 03

  His stuff fits exactly with this, this model that I'm telling you about. Like, the, the connection of these nodes and where the chambers are and stuff are tuning into different types of energy. It's different frequencies essentially. And the whole basis for this alchemical process I was telling you about with like the, that goes into the stone and makes the stones ring and all this stuff. That's a tuning mechanism to tune the rocks to do a certain thing. And how they achieve this is through ultrasonic cavitations, like Sonoluminescence, that video showing you where it flashes. So, when it does that, you have a, a release of energy that could be harvested for other things. And then you have a chemical reaction that is very likely used for what he was saying is. And that would be the mechanism for terraforming, is creating these, these elements that are needed to grow.

• 2:13:55Speaker 03

  That's what we fertilize our, our plants with, is these basic things. So, so the process is building a geometric interface between the natural energies that are already here and already tuned for this planet. And then you have the, the non-moving parts mechanism for this whole thing, which is the beauty of it all, is the cavitation aspect of it. And if you, if you look at, so like Anchor Why and the Step Pyramid of Dushur, they have these really deep wells are the best examples I can come up with for this. But these very deep wells would tap into the aquifers that were underneath them. And so, when you tap into a certain frequency, let's say it's, you know, in the ultrasonic range. Very specific ultrasonic frequency will create a very specific element.

• 2:14:37Speaker 03

  And these chambers seem, are obviously tuned acoustically, and the, the wells below them, they look like they're tuned acoustically as well. So, we have this filter, we have a pyramid that's filtering out, and then we have a chamber that's isolating a certain frequency and amplifying that certain frequency into the ground. And then when that frequency interacts with the well, the ultrasonic cavitation goes in there, cleans the water. Because when you have cavitation, you have this, this, basically it boils the water. It's how you, you would heat water. There's a guy that made a little device that you could stick in a cup, and you just pumped it with air and it would boil the water and it was doing the exact same thing. And so, you have this method of cleaning the water and creating the elements that you need for, for fertilization or industrial processes or anything that we see that they had.

• 2:15:22Speaker 03

  And you would distribute that out into your network, which is, the entire Giza Plateau is filled with these giant shafts that look like they held liquid or that they were containers of something. And then you have the sacred lakes that were the purified water byproduct of what happened on these sites. And that sacred water was used for the humans. So the purified structure water was used for your rituals and your, your conscious activities as a human. Whereas the, the, the stuff that Jeffrey's talking about was used for the plant life and to fertilize plants. So you're getting all you need out of this one device, and then the bigger the device grows, the bigger the, the system gets in Egypt or India or America. Then the bigger populations that you can support.

• 2:16:06Speaker 03

  And we're now seeing that India, Egypt, and America all had populations that were vastly larger than we expected. Because of this process, in my opinion. And so they knew how to work with it, they knew how to use it, and then they basically built it out on scale like what we do with our, our devices.

• 2:16:24Joe Rogan?

  And the question is, how the hell did they learn that?

• 2:16:25Speaker 03

  That's the question.

• 2:16:26Joe Rogan?

  That's the big one. The big one is, do we take them seriously?

• 2:16:29Speaker 03

  I think we're-

• 2:16:30Joe Rogan?

  Do we take their legend seriously?

• 2:16:32Speaker 03

  We're more, we're, we more understand the process of what they were doing than where they got it, which is wild. Right? We're getting closer to that than where we got it.

• 2:16:43Joe Rogan?

  Right, like, how, how, how, who, where, how long?

• 2:16:48Speaker 03

  Or why?

• 2:16:49Joe Rogan?

  Right, why?

• 2:16:50Speaker 03

  Why is the question, like-

• 2:16:51Joe Rogan?

  But we were, we're assuming that people beyond that period were simply hunter-gatherers with stolen tools.

• 2:16:57Speaker 03

  They, they probably were, like, there probably were concurrent civilizations that were doing that.

• 2:17:01Joe Rogan?

  Like they are right now.

• 2:17:02Speaker 03

  Like they are right now. And then, and then, you know, when they say like, you know, Nephilim or whoever bred with the humans, they probably were, probably were taking some, some of the best stock of them and being like, you guys are gonna be us now. And then they, they get into this cycle of, of conscious, you know, transfer, and then you have civilizations that last for 5,000 years.

• 2:17:23Joe Rogan?

  What the fuck?

• 2:17:26Joe Rogan?

  And you have stargates.

• 2:17:27Speaker 03

  And then you have stargates, yeah. Well, that would make a lot of sense, like the whole, you know, the, the gate phenomenon, the doorways to nowhere phenomenon?

• 2:17:34Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:17:35Speaker 03

  You see them in Peru?

• 2:17:35Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:17:36Speaker 03

  They're in Saudi Arabia, like Hagra in Saudi Arabia, you know what that is?

• 2:17:40Joe Rogan?

  I've heard the word, I don't know what it is.

• 2:17:42Speaker 03

  Jamie, pull up Hagra, that, this stuff. So, a, a key component of this system is that the information is transferred in the rock itself. Tesla proved that this was possible, that you could, you could transfer energy and information through, through the stone substrate of the earth, right?

• 2:18:01Speaker 03

  So if you can do-

• 2:18:01Joe Rogan?

  Yo!

• 2:18:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, if you can do this, you basically, all you need to do is create gates in the rock, and you can remote view, like a hologram, any place on earth. You just go through, and then you have this geometric gate that you recognize because it's the geometry that, that every culture is using. And then you basically pop out of a rock in, in your spirit form, that's what the Egyptians said, that Merkabah could travel through these things. So then you have the, yeah, you have stuff in the middle of, of deserts that-

• 2:18:28Joe Rogan?

  And what's the conventional explanation for these things?

• 2:18:30Speaker 03

  Tombs.

• 2:18:31Joe Rogan?

  Tombs. Hell of a fucking tomb.

• 2:18:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:18:35Joe Rogan?

  Must be a dope dude that died. Look at that thing.

• 2:18:38Speaker 03

  But you see this, this same phenomenon in, Jamie, Google, L Y C I A, Lysia?

• 2:18:44Joe Rogan?

  But hold on, before we go there, is this in the middle of nowhere?

• 2:18:46Speaker 03

  Uh, it's in the middle of Saudi Arabian desert, yeah.

• 2:18:48Joe Rogan?

  Go, go down to that cat on the bottom, that's, she's standing there, look at him, he's like, hey, check it out.

• 2:18:55Speaker 03

  This is my home.

• 2:18:56Joe Rogan?

  I wonder what that means to them, I wonder what they think it is.

• 2:19:01Speaker 03

  Genuinely, I would talk to a lot of Egyptians when I was in Egypt. I don't think they're very aware of a lot of this stuff. I think they're quite disconnected from-

• 2:19:11Joe Rogan?

  So, there was something that happened that wiped these people out?

• 2:19:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:19:16Joe Rogan?

  And you think that this aligns with the Younger Dryas impact?

• 2:19:19Speaker 03

  I think that these probably are post that.

• 2:19:23Joe Rogan?

  Post that?

• 2:19:24Speaker 03

  Just because they're, they're really, they're, they're really crispy.

• 2:19:27Joe Rogan?

  Crispy in terms of lack of erosion?

• 2:19:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, like, and they're in the middle of nowhere, you'd expect to see a lot of wind-water erosion on this thing.

• 2:19:35Joe Rogan?

  So who?

• 2:19:36Speaker 03

  There's water erosion here.

• 2:19:37Joe Rogan?

  So who?

• 2:19:37Speaker 04

  Water there, no?

• 2:19:38Joe Rogan?

  What, Jamie?

• 2:19:39Speaker 04

  Water?

• 2:19:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, on the bottom there.

• 2:19:41Speaker 04

  Like, it would have, like, it's dry now, like Venice, you know? Like, they're all elevated, like, these are docks, like, I'm thinking of Lake Travis when it's empty, you know?

• 2:19:49Speaker 03

  And look at the dis-

• 2:19:49Joe Rogan?

  Right!

• 2:19:50Speaker 03

  The discoloration on the bottom part versus the top part indicates that the top part was exposed and the bottom part was probably underwater. And you see this water line across Wadi Rum and Petra, and Saudi Arabia, and Egypt. There's like a huge-

• 2:20:04Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:20:05Speaker 03

  Discrepancy on, you know, Sphinx shows it, too. Huge discrepancy, and that's like kind of a indicator, in my opinion, of what things were and where they were in that timeline.

• 2:20:15Joe Rogan?

  And we're super aware that, like, especially when it comes to Sub-Saharan Africa, when they find these whale skeletons, like-

• 2:20:22Speaker 03

  The, the giant ones that are still there?

• 2:20:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Insane. So, what, this, what do you think that was, though?

• 2:20:29Speaker 03

  The, I think those are like the, the transit stations. Yeah, I genuinely like, maybe not for physical bodies, I don't know if that's like, I can't come up with a mechanism that makes that work where you deconstruct your matter. But if you, if the Egyptians could clearly travel with consciousness, they show that in their hieroglyphs. And the Hindus speak of it as well. And so if you could do that, I feel like those were more of, um, let's say you go to a deep meditative state, you're aligned in your temple and you have, you know, this maybe possibly psychedelics or some other thing amplifying the connectivity in your brain and giving it abilities that it doesn't normally have to connect with. Another thing about the psychedelic experience is you feel connected with everything all

• 2:21:14Speaker 03

  at once, right?

• 2:21:15Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:21:16Speaker 03

  So if you're, if you can enhance that feeling and be connected with your whole environment, then navigating that environment would require merging with it, but then emerging somewhere with a pattern you recognize. And that pattern is why you see these doorways carved in there because in the non-physical conscious state that they talk about, the only thing you really kind of decipher is geometry, right? On psychedelics, you see a lot of, you know, torus shapes and fractals and stuff like that. But in this world, if you're tuned in with that and you're traveling kind of consciously through the rock substrate, then finding the gateways to exit would be the goal essentially.

• 2:22:01Speaker 03

  And that's why you see these doorways carved in the middle of nowhere in Peru and the same thing in Saudi Arabia is, in my opinion, that's how they talk to each other. They're like, yo, this is, uh, this is happening over in Peru. Send help.

• 2:22:15Joe Rogan?

  Somehow or another. Well, that's also one of the weirder things about these temples, particularly some of these temples that exist in India, where they have this incredible harmonic frequency inside of them when they're chanting. And you have to think this is by design and what is the purpose of that? And is it to achieve a certain state of consciousness? And what kind of consciousness can be achieved? Particularly, imagine you're on psychedelics. So one of the things about psychedelics is, um, do you know what Ikaros are? Have you heard of those? Ikaros are these songs that they sing when you are under the spell of DMT.

• 2:22:54Joe Rogan?

  And they do it with these ayahuasca rituals, but I've had it done, I've experienced it, where you play the songs on DMT. And it makes the DMT dance, like in this very strange sync, it synchronizes with the music, the experience, instead of being like completely chaotic and random, it synchronizes like directly. And like the patterns dance with the music, they work together in some very, very strange way. Now you've got to imagine that if that's the case, that would also be the case with chanting. That would also be the case with, if they had songs, if they had something they could

• 2:23:37Joe Rogan?

  do, there was some, some dance they could do with sound while they're inside these incredibly resonant chambers where like, the one that I sent you on Instagram.

• 2:23:48Speaker 03

  Betsy Caves?

• 2:23:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I'll send this to Jamie because this is crazy. When you hear how this guy is chanting inside of it and you hear the sound that it's making while he's doing that, you're like, what? Why would you do that? Like, what is involved in this fucking thing?

• 2:24:07Speaker 03

  It's a specific frequency too. Like the, it resonates at a fundamental on each one of these things.

• 2:24:12Joe Rogan?

  Um, I don't know, let me hear this, Jamie. But this is outside. Uh, I'm sending you something. I just sent it to you.

• 2:24:32Speaker 03

  Is it that?

• 2:24:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's it. That's it. And this is from, what's the gentleman's name?

• 2:24:39Speaker 03

  Liam Richards.

• 2:24:40Joe Rogan?

  Liam Richards.

• 2:24:41Speaker 07

  Freaking crazy. This is, take a look at this, it is freaking crazy. This is called a chatya. It's a chanting hole. Its whole purpose is for chanting. It is like nothing I've ever seen. Listen to the acoustics in here. So the Buddhist monks, they would come in here and they would meditate or chant, they would perform meditation in here, walking around the stupa and chant like, om.

• 2:25:18Joe Rogan?

  Fuck. It lasts so long.

• 2:25:22Speaker 07

  Can you hear that? It reverberates for like 15 or 20 seconds.

• 2:25:27Joe Rogan?

  And this seems like this is all carved out of stone.

• 2:25:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:25:31Joe Rogan?

  Not built, but carved out of a stone.

• 2:25:33Speaker 03

  You can't, you can't make one mistake in it. And, and that's the thing with these, this stuff too is, um, these things are tuned, all of them, the Egyptian chambers, the Hindu chambers in cathedrals especially, they're all tuned to a specific resonance. And that resonance is what you'll usually find carved into the floral patterns on the wall. So these resonances were kind of the key to go to these either places of information or possibly even locations, like what we were just talking about is like, maybe Hegra had a location that looked like a five pointed star and then maybe the temples in Egypt had one that looked like an eight pointed star or something like, or a flower, you know? And so if you know that, if you know the resting resonance, then that drives your conscious

• 2:26:18Speaker 03

  experience, like what you're saying on these, in these altered states. And it's also why psychedelics are so popular in music festivals and stuff like that is because music, music drives the experience. That was the second part of like, I was always into this stuff, but music, when I got into music and making music was the, it just kicked everything off because that is the physics mechanism of the interaction with your, your neurology. Your vagus nerve is directly connected to your ear. So the main nerve of your whole body is connected to your ear. It goes to that before it goes to your brain for processing. This is for survival. Loud noises generally kept us alive.

• 2:27:00Speaker 03

  If, if we heard, you know, the, the tree snapping and that tiger is behind you and you run. That mechanism bypasses the, the processing centers of the brain, particularly the amygdala, which is the fear, fear-based part of the brain, right? So fight or flight. And so if you bypass that and you are in a state of, you know, peace and serenity and protection and maybe a temple environment, maybe a music festival environment, whatever you feel, uh, then you can achieve a level of abstraction from your physical body, meaning you're not paying attention to your sensory inputs as much as your conscious experience. And then once you have that detached state, that is more mobile than your physical body.

• 2:27:45Speaker 03

  I mean, even on like a DMT experience, you feel almost weightless. It feels like the, the, you know, you're coming out of your, your physical self. And if you can direct that using sound and you're in an environment that's connected with everything else, then you have your, your method of information exchange or at least, you know, some sort of conscious travel that we can't really understand yet.

• 2:28:07Joe Rogan?

  Fuck.

• 2:28:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, the music, music sound is, is like the most vital component to, to all of this because we, we drive that experience. Sound is the only, the only medium that we can actually manipulate other than our, our immediate physical surroundings. So like talking to you, you know, the sound travels and we can manipulate the sonic environment of this room just by speaking. That's how they interfaced with the geometric environment of the temple complex. Now, the design, where this stuff came from, that stuff is a completely other, like how, how they know how to route this stuff and what signals and frequencies work with what? Don't know that yet. But what we do know directly is that that has a huge impact on your experience, whether

• 2:28:51Speaker 03

  it's in a cathedral or an Egyptian temple or a music festival. All of this stuff is, is happening to the brain in a, in a realm of feeling instead of thinking. So if you bridge those two, then you have gnosis. You have the feeling that comes with the thinking in this, in this environment that is so life-changing that it's the direct download of, of information.

• 2:29:15Joe Rogan?

  It reminds me of a Dennis McKenna quote about if you, the more you ignite the bonfire of wisdom, the more you illuminate the surface area of ignorance. I might have butchered that, but essentially the more you learn, the more you realize how little you know. Like the more we learn about this stuff, the more we realize like, what are we even talking about? Like this is really crazy. Like, I feel like we're doing some sort of archaeology, like we're like brushing off the dirt and discovering, like this is crazy. Whatever it is, like the undeniable aspects of like that temple. How old is that? Who built that? Why? What was your motivation? How did you do it? Where are your, where are your tools?

• 2:30:00Joe Rogan?

  Why did you do it? Why has it reached this specific hertz? Why does it reach this specific frequency? Why does it resonate that way?

• 2:30:07Speaker 03

  But this is the gateway, I think. What you're saying is the gateway into where we're going.

• 2:30:11Joe Rogan?

  And how the fuck did they figure out how to do it?

• 2:30:14Speaker 03

  That, that we get lost in how did they move the big stone, which is also an equally perplexing problem, but the why for me is, is where it's going to go because that, that is substantial in the, in the sense that you can prove it. If, if we can alter the experience of somebody and, um, the conscious experience and we can drive that experience in a temple environment or at least an acoustically tuned environment with this geometric ratio, maybe a recreation of a Egyptian temple or something like that. We can, we can recreate that experience and prove that something is going on, that they're already trying to map the DMT world at like Stanford or something. Add that to the list of experiments, you know? Maybe go to a cathedral, rent it out for a day and play with some frequencies in there

• 2:30:59Speaker 03

  while a bunch of people are on this, you know, sustained DMT intervenous trip and have them, have them see what's going on. Because that's the only way, I can't, I can't go do that experiment myself. I'm going to get kicked out of the cathedral because I'm going to be acting like a lunatic. I need permission, but.

• 2:31:16Joe Rogan?

  Listen, man, this is a lot to absorb for people, so I think it's probably good to end it right here. We definitely should do this again because it's really fascinating stuff and, um, I commend you for the amount of time that you spent absorbing all this and your ability to recite it is very impressive.

• 2:31:32Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:31:33Joe Rogan?

  It's nutty shit, man. It's easy to get sucked down into that rabbit hole.

• 2:31:37Speaker 03

  That's my day to day, dude.

• 2:31:39Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's awesome, man. I'm glad you're doing it. Uh, baseforge.us is your Instagram. Um, YouTube?

• 2:31:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, same thing, same thing on YouTube. Um, doing a lot more live stuff this year too, so like.

• 2:31:49Joe Rogan?

  What are you doing live?

• 2:31:50Speaker 03

  Uh, so I'm leaving for CPAC tomorrow, the Conference for Procession and Ancient Knowledge that's in Cali and, uh, I'll be speaking there and then coming back and then I'm going to be playing a music festival called Wakon in Arkansas. And then after that, I'll be here for a conference called Quest for Ancients. It's downtown Austin. Um, I'll be speaking and playing there.

• 2:32:11Joe Rogan?

  Is that the October thing?

• 2:32:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:32:12Joe Rogan?

  Okay. That's October 16th?

• 2:32:14Speaker 03

  15th through the 18th.

• 2:32:15Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:32:16Speaker 03

  Yeah. So that one's, that one's going to be really cool. I'm debuting this brand new project that I've been working on for like four years there. So that's, yeah, basically a synthesis of everything that we talked about with visuals and music.

• 2:32:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, amazing.

• 2:32:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's going to be pretty sweet.

• 2:32:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, dude, thank you very much for being here. I really appreciate it. It was a lot of fun.

• 2:32:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. All right. Talk to you. Bye, everybody.