Encounters x277 - First Responders & Guardian Angels

They’re trained to handle life-or-death emergencies, but what happens when the emergency defies all logic? In this chilling episode, first responders—EMTs, firefighters, police officers, and 911 dispatchers—share their real-life encounters with the unexplained. What’s Haunting This Episode? A firefighter’s encounters in a historic firehouse haunted by the playful ghosts of its former inhabitants. An emergency line operator in Australia dispatches EMS for a medical alarm call, to what turns out to be an empty house… A critically injured person recalls being comforted by an EMT at the scene of an accident—only to later learn no such EMT was ever there After Hurricane Katrina, a first responder follows a mysterious infant’s cry and has a shocking discovery. From life saving specters to eerie voices on emergency calls, these are the kinds of paranormal stories that can’t be dismissed. 🚨 Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello.

• 1:20Corinne Vien?

  Hey.

• 1:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is Two Curls, One Ghost.

• 1:22Corinne Vien?

  Two Curls, One Ghost.

• 1:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like you did something different.

• 1:26Corinne Vien?

  One Ghost.

• 1:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We are Ghost Stories. That is Corinne.

• 1:30Corinne Vien?

  Hi.

• 1:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I am Sabrina.

• 1:32Corinne Vien?

  Hey. And a while ago, we asked for first responder ghost stories.

• 1:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you all delivered.

• 1:38Corinne Vien?

  So here we go.

• 1:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you can keep delivering. If you've already sent a first responder story, thank you. If you have one that you're sitting on, do you want us mad at you?

• 1:47Corinne Vien?

  Well, the ghosts are probably mad at all of these people in this episode, and we're going to begin with a haunted firehouse.

• 1:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I feel like I don't have any that are mad. I have some good, nice ones.

• 1:58Corinne Vien?

  I'm not sure I have any ones that are mad either. It was just my way of pivoting.

• 2:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was a segue.

• 2:01Corinne Vien?

  It was a segue. Okay. Hi, friends. New listener here. I grew up in Ohio, and your Athens asylum episode is what pulled me in.

• 2:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh.

• 2:08Corinne Vien?

  Here is a story about a haunted firehouse I grew up in.

• 2:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In the house?

• 2:12Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm. My now retired dad was a firefighter my whole childhood. He retired a few years after I graduated college. Our town is very old and historical, so it's no shocker that the firehouse he worked in, there are several, was very historical and had a lot of spooky stuff going on there. And to give a visual of how the building was laid out, it was an old house turned working firehouse. That's very common in historical towns for businesses to be refurbished and old homes to be used for businesses. There was a main floor, a basement and upstairs, and the upstairs was very small. And that is where the firefighters would sleep. It was basically one big room where they all slept on individual beds, small beds. And seriously, if you see a firefighter, thank them for what they do because it is not fancy. The main floor had a huge room that was later turned into a garage for the two fire

• 2:57Corinne Vien?

  trucks and for each person's locker, for their uniforms, for their personal items. And there was one living room, a kitchen and an office. I can't stress enough how small this thing was. When you go into the living room, you can literally see the kitchen and the office. There's nowhere to hide. I feel like that's an important detail. The basement was a gym with workout equipment. It had a pool table, a workbench with standard tools. And if you were in the basement, you could see every inch, another place with nowhere to hide. When I was a kid, my mom would take me and my sister to visit my dad at work a lot. His schedule was 24 hours working, 48 hours off, et cetera. So we would visit my dad, we'd hang out with his crew, and those men were like uncles to us.

• 3:38Corinne Vien?

  And from time to time, we would hear strange noises in the building, which wasn't surprising given how old it was. They had to keep the gym in the basement because if they put that weight over the room with the trucks, the ceiling would literally collapse because it was that old. There were several times where we would hear loud noises inside when everyone else was outside. Once I was sitting in the living room with my dad and another firefighter and I heard a distinct loud noise and then footsteps running down the old stairs that led to the living room. My dad laughed and told me it was probably just the ghost playing jokes. I asked him what he meant and he said, you know, the firefighters are pranksters and the ghosts of past firefighters here also like to prank the current firefighters. If you don't believe me, go upstairs and see if someone is there.

• 4:22Corinne Vien?

  I knew he was serious because he would never usually let me go upstairs. Number one, because the guys were always trying to get some extra sleep. And number two, it's not appropriate for a small girl to be alone with a bunch of guys who are trying to sleep. So I went upstairs and he was right. Every single person was outside. And this was a theme for what I call prank hauntings. Oh, I love this. I know. And they're all friendly. They're all friendly. The fire, the firehouse is just full of prankster ghosts. Brothers, aww. The prankster hauntings happened all the time in this building. When my dad would be in the basement working out, the radio would randomly come on and would always be playing the same song. This was in the nineties. There was no Bluetooth, no way for anyone to control from another room. It was a super old radio and no matter what day or time it was, it would always be the same song and always in the same spot. What song?

• 5:07Corinne Vien?

  We don't know. I want to know. Another time, one of the guys was in the basement and a small light over the workbench would turn on and then back off. Not flashing, but turning on for a few seconds and then a few seconds later, turning off. Just letting you know who's there. Back on again. He yelled out to the ghosts and jokingly said, "Stop your pranking. You're gonna make me have a seizure during my workout." And the lights really started flashing. He started laughing and the flashing stopped. One of the guys would always sneak into the kitchen and take the middle slice of a sheet cake. Rude, I know. I like the end pieces. They have more frosting. Yeah, and I like the like little crispy on the outside. Hmm, yeah, I'm probably middle of the sheet cake. I'll eat the whole thing, so.

• 5:48Corinne Vien?

  That's true. There's no self-control. I'm gonna get middle end corner. Everybody hated it, but one night he was in the kitchen sneaking a bite and the door to upstairs slammed and the kitchen lights turned on. He got so scared, he dropped the cake slices on the floor. The next morning, he told everyone and they laughed and said, "You deserve that and thank you ghosts." Nothing sinister ever happened, which is why we were never scared. But my dad and the crew respected the building and the spirits that continued to have fun there. Thank you and see you on the other side, Rachel. What a fun upbringing. Right? Like they were there all the time. If he was there every three days, basically, like they spent so much time at that firehouse. And the ghosts probably loved having you come.

• 6:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And teasing you, playing with you. I mean, they clearly were having fun in the afterlife and messing with all the other firefighters.

• 6:37Corinne Vien?

  Which, thank goodness that that was the experience that these firefighters had, because what they have to do in the places they have to go into, the people they have to help. Because that's another thing. I feel like oftentimes when people think of firefighters, they think of them just fighting fire and like,

• 6:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 6:51Corinne Vien?

  They respond to

• 6:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So many things.

• 6:53Corinne Vien?

  A variety of calls. So, so many.

• 6:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Doesn't a fire truck have to show up if an ambulance is called?

• 6:58Corinne Vien?

  I think so, yeah. Something like that.

• 7:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 7:01Corinne Vien?

  There's a lot of opportunity for them to be traumatized and lose sleep. And I'm glad that the ghosts here are like, no, we're just here for a good time. You guys get your rest. We're just, you know, we're just chilling. We're hanging out. We're boys.

• 7:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Eating cake.

• 7:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 7:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Messing with each other. Speaking of traumatized, this one is a story about an EMT who lost a life. So there is a content warning of loss of life that perhaps caused spiritual activity or PTSD, as is the title of this email from our listener Haley. I do have a really good one to end us on, so don't worry. They're not all sad. Hi, Sabrina and Corinne. I'm a fairly new listener of Two Girls, One Ghost. This is back in 2019. When I started listening, I tried to make a rule for myself to only listen while I walk my dog and/or work out, because I moved into a new house that's pretty old and I don't want to risk scaring myself. But that rule did not last long, and I find myself listening from morning until 8:00 PM. And somehow I sleep peacefully at night. You two are so funny and relatable and remind me of my best friend and I.

• 8:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anyway, thanks. This story is not my own personal experience, but my father's. This happened to him in the late summer, early fall of 2015, but he just told me about it a few weeks ago when I told him about your podcast, Since Him and I Love Scary Movies, Stories, Myths and Legends, summer of 2015. My dad had just officially been named captain of the fire department where he worked and had been a firefighter slash paramedic for about 10 years. During the summer months, he had been on a lot of really bad, critical medical calls with not the best outcomes. One of these calls in particular really stuck with him. To summarize, him and his crew had been called to a 27 year old male who was complaining of difficulty breathing. They got there and he said that the patient was breathing at a very fast rate.

• 8:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was the textbook definition of cyanosis, blue, ashy skin, and in general, in quotes, looked like shit. He was dressed in jeans and a flannel. They were getting him from his apartment to the ambulance to be taken to the emergency room when he coded. My dad quickly intubated the patient and placed him in the ambulance to perform CPR. While they were performing CPR, suddenly the back door of the ambulance flew open. It was the patient's father. The father was taken out of the ambulance and the situation was being explained to him while the other crew members tried to revive the young man. Sadly, the patient was eventually pronounced dead after rounds of CPR. The events directly after the death were filled with drama involving the family and their beliefs of the EMS crew not doing all they could to save him. And it just added a lot of stress to my dad.

• 9:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And he thinks it might have something to do with the spiritual encounter I'm about to tell you. So fast forward a few weeks after this incident and my dad is starting a 24 hour shift with his regular crew, which was not the crew he worked with on the death we just talked about. They were starting their morning with truck checks and he said he went into what was described as a utility closet to get something. When he stepped out of the closet, he smelled an awful smell, which he described as worse than rotten eggs and worse than death. And saw what appeared to be a tall, thin male walking by him who was wearing, can you guess it? An old flannel and jeans. My dad followed the male, thinking maybe it was someone off shift stopping at a station, but he didn't see the male anywhere. He went to every room and there was no one, nothing.

• 10:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  While he was roaming around the station, trying to find the mystery man, that smell of death and eggs would not stop following him. He couldn't escape it. He asked everyone who stopped by and nobody he was talking to could smell what he was smelling. He was the only one smelling it. Everest, he thought nothing of it, but was worried about the smell, like, is there a gas leak? Is something going on? So he Googled it and he Googled rotten egg smell. And he found a bunch of information that was described worse than rotten eggs are sometimes associated with ghosts and spirits.

• 10:42Corinne Vien?

  It was usually. Demonic.

• 10:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, but maybe it just rotting smell. I don't know.

• 10:47Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 10:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But then this is when my dad put all the pieces together and remembered the outfit of the man and shit a brick because he was freaked out. He says to this day, he has not encountered the male sins or any other spirits, and he's not sure if maybe he just saw this man because of how traumatic the experience was. But my theory is that the spirit came back to visit my dad, kind of to let him know that he has come to terms with his death and has accepted it. But I also believe that he has forgiven my dad and wanted to acknowledge that they and his team did everything they could to save his life. Feel free to read this story. My dad and I would be honored. I'll send in a Ouija story later when it isn't 10:30 PM because this girl needs her sleep. Love you guys. See you on the other side, Haley.

• 11:26Corinne Vien?

  My gosh, I'm so curious. Like, I know this isn't like, you should just like, respect people's privacy, but I'm also curious of what happened in order for him to just, because it seems so sudden. It seems so surprising. Obviously, his family was

• 11:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In shock.

• 11:42Corinne Vien?

  In shock that it happened. He himself, it sounds like he might have called the ambulance for himself.

• 11:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 11:47Corinne Vien?

  So he knew something was wrong, and that's very confusing. And I am curious to, like, I'm thinking of the book, If I Stay. I'm thinking of The Lovely Bones and kind of like, maybe he was in this sort of in-between, in this confusion, and it took him going and witnessing someone from the crew that tried to save him to be able to be like, I'm finding some closure here and now I can move on.

• 12:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. I almost also wonder if like, because I do feel like PTSD and trauma does leave some type of residue or energy, that I almost wonder if this experience was so traumatic, given the death, given the way the family acted, and all of this like sadness that this man's soul, what if he kind of stayed with Haley's dad for some time? And it was at this point that he kind of detached from the trauma, like he let go of him and was able to, that part of his spirit was able to depart.

• 12:40Corinne Vien?

  Move forward. Yeah. I hope so. This is so sad.

• 12:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 12:44Corinne Vien?

  I can't imagine having this, that career and that profession and having to see the things that you see.

• 12:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you're doing your best, like you're trying to save people, but of course, like, family and loved ones are gonna be horrified and heartbroken and sometimes that's misplaced anger, you know?

• 13:01Corinne Vien?

  Saved too. Like, that's the thing. It's, yeah, everyone dies eventually.

• 13:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 13:05Corinne Vien?

  Terrific.

• 13:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So sad.

• 13:07Corinne Vien?

  Why do we ask for first or second emails again?

• 13:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because they see a lot of death and...

• 13:12Corinne Vien?

  G'day from down under.

• 13:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  G'day.

• 13:14Corinne Vien?

  G'day.

• 13:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  G'day.

• 13:15Corinne Vien?

  G'day. Yikes, sorry.

• 13:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like your hat was totally covering your eyes, but I wish that everyone could see you like...

• 13:23Corinne Vien?

  The panic.

• 13:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you darted your eyes so quickly all over the place.

• 13:27Corinne Vien?

  Realizing that I just don't have it.

• 13:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 13:29Corinne Vien?

  I cannot say it correctly. Okay. Thank you for being such vengeful badasses, although going back through this catalog is a full...

• 13:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Catalog?

• 13:37Corinne Vien?

  Catalog is a full on time warp. My name is Riley. I was going back and listening to episode 170, and there was a listener story that involved a paranormal 911 call, and the father got home to police inside their house and only breathing could be heard. So I work for a state ambulance service here in Oz and was a call taker for a time and now a dispatcher. P.S. Here we call 911 000, so we'll go with 000.

• 14:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 14:02Corinne Vien?

  This only happened a week ago, and I've only just gotten time to sit and write this out slash process it.

• 14:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow.

• 14:08Corinne Vien?

  I was dispatching a quiet area for the night. I had hunkered down and I was watching a documentary because it's 3 a.m. and I can, when I finally get a job to dispatch. I noticed that the call taker was someone in the room and they had put it through as a medical alarm activation with no contact. I quickly dispatched my local crew to the case and thought nothing else of it, until I got a request to attach police. No problem, this is normal. They just need police to go help them break in because nobody's answering the door. So I asked the police to go join in on the fun and sit back and I continue my show. Not even five minutes after the police show up, I get a request for me to call one of the paramedics, so I do. And the paramedic I spoke to says, ah, just to

• 14:49Corinne Vien?

  let you know, we've gained access and a neighbor is with us, but the house is empty and we've been advised that the owner passed a week ago and all of her services have been canceled, including her medical alarm.

• 15:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I just got chills that are like tingling.

• 15:07Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Now, I have a recorded line at work, but I accidentally let out a low, "Get fucked." We all agreed that it was some spooky weird shit and the best thing to do was just run. The Ambos jumped in their truck and got out as quickly as they could and we closed the case, but we weren't done. You see, we can go back to 000 calls. So me, the call taker, and my three supervisors all stood around to listen to the call.

• 15:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my gosh.

• 15:32Corinne Vien?

  You can hear the standard greeting from my colleague and then nothing. A couple of, "Hello, you have dialed 000 emergency. What is the address?" And a few, "Are you there?" But no response. So naturally she took the address that was registered to the alarm and sent a response there. All you could hear was this garbled sound, as if someone was underwater. And sometimes what sounded like a moan or a yell, but there was no intelligible words. We were all so spooked. I called the paramedics back and this time it was another ambulance. And all she had to say in response was, "I fucking hate 3am." And then asked if she could go back to the station as she needed to watch something nice. So there's my 000 story for you. Love your work, Riley.

• 16:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so curious, because this woman had passed away like a week earlier or a couple of weeks earlier. I'm so curious if there was a call from the night that she passed away.

• 16:26Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah.

• 16:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That she's like reliving, or maybe she wanted to, or wished that she tried to make a call, but it was too late. And now like the call finally went through or something.

• 16:36Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 16:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I still have chills, especially on my left leg right here.

• 16:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I actually, when I was searching for stories, there are quite a few life alert going off. When the person's like not home. There was one story of a listener was home. Her mom, the day prior, the life alert went off because she fell or something and was admitted into the hospital. The next night, she's home alone. Her mom's in the hospital with her life alert. Her life alert is not in the house. All of a sudden like EMTs and police show up, knocking on the door and they're like, "The life alert just went off." And she's like, "My mom's like already in the hospital. This happened yesterday."

• 17:12Corinne Vien?

  We need to pull that one and read that.

• 17:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 17:14Corinne Vien?

  This is also reminding me a little bit of, I won't for the life of me remember when we read it, but in one of the encounters, there was a woman who had passed. And like a week or two later, like her son or daughter had called to try to cancel a subscription. And they were like, oh, she already called. She called like two days ago.

• 17:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But she was

• 17:32Corinne Vien?

  They're like, no, my mother has passed. She passed two weeks ago. And they're like, I don't know what to tell you. She called and canceled her subscription two days ago.

• 17:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Helping with all the cancellations.

• 17:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 17:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 17:41Corinne Vien?

  Because she, she said something like, I won't be needing it anymore.

• 17:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, right, right. Oh, my gosh. You all have had some amazing and wild, scary, happy, incredible stories. So keep sending them to us. Okay, so this is from our listener LJ, and it's called Help Me Solve A Crime? Question mark, question mark, question mark.

• 18:01Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 18:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello, beautifuls. This is technically an open investigation, so please just use LJ, she/her, if you read this.

• 18:08Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 18:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A few weeks ago, you asked for law enforcement stories, and boy, do I have a fun one. At the beginning of this year, and this was set in 2021, I was on patrol with my partner when we got a call from dispatch about a fire. The caller stated that they witnessed three people lighting something on fire, rode on the ground, and it lit the brush and grass on fire. The suspects were described as follows. One female, two males. One of the males was wearing a bright yellow-green jacket, while the other two were wearing dark-colored hoodies. Dispatch also told us that the caller's sons were chasing the three individuals through the woods. Also crazy.

• 18:41Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 18:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My partner and I arrived on the scene. He dropped me off to wait for the firefighters, and he went to find the suspects. I heard over the radio that my partner found three individuals matching the description, and the caller's sons at the pavilion were not too far from the crime scene. Luckily, the fire department arrived swiftly and put out the flames. Since that was under control, I met up with my partner, and the suspects, and the witnesses, and now a couple of other agencies that had responded to the arson. My partner and a state police officer were interviewing the suspects, so I interviewed the witnesses, the caller, his sons, and another witness. The two sons were so out of breath from running through the woods, but somehow our suspects were not showing signs of fatigue at all. So if they had just been chased, shouldn't they have been tired? They, along with the two other witnesses, positively identified these three people

• 19:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  as the ones who started the fire. But these suspects were adamant that they did not start the fire, that they weren't even in the area when it happened. One of the suspects had a hiking app running with a GPS location and with times. And another suspect had a photo of them that was time stamped, and you could tell it was about half a mile away when the fire was started. So there is no way that these three were anywhere near the crime scene at the time of the fire being started. Yet the two people who were feet from them chasing them through the woods were positive it was them. And they were wearing the exact same things as described. There weren't many people in the park that day because it was chilly and windy in March. There were no other people in the area when it went down. And this is the only person who was wearing a distinct bright yellow green jacket. Like I said,

• 20:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  it's still an open investigation, so I don't think it will end up being solved. But the more I think about it, I'm like, was this a weird glitch in the matrix? A time slip? A weird evil doppelganger thing?

• 20:22Corinne Vien?

  That's what I was thinking. Doppelgangers.

• 20:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 20:24Corinne Vien?

  Like a trio of doppelgangers met up, befriended each other, and were just like, let's cause chaos.

• 20:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  wreak some havoc. But this is not the only strange thing I have experienced at this job. I've been alone in the office and I've heard someone pacing upstairs. My coworker came in one day and heard another coworker having a phone conversation upstairs, only for that same coworker to get into work five minutes later. They weren't in the office when they were heard.

• 20:47Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I feel like there's a lot of doppelganger energy.

• 20:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. Once I was talking to someone on the first floor when we heard something fall upstairs. We had a chair piled with equipment and the box that was under everything was on the floor across the office, while the rest of the equipment was still piled on the chair. So it was like, the chair, the box, and all this equipment. The box was pulled out from under all the equipment, but the equipment was still fine.

• 21:08Corinne Vien?

  Magic.

• 21:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Magic.

• 21:10Corinne Vien?

  It's like pulling a tablecloth and keeping all the tables down. Party trick.

• 21:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Physics. My last story from this job happened shortly after clearing the scene from an EMS call. I was driving back to the office and I saw a kid walk across the road about 50 yards in front of me. I pulled up to where the kid was and rolled my window down to give him a hard time about wandering away from his family, but the kid was gone. I couldn't see him anywhere. There was nowhere he could have gone. We were basically in the middle of the woods, and there was no family or other people nearby. I got to my office and I shared this experience with my coworkers. And apparently, I was pretty close to where a boy scout was killed by a fallen tree while camping with his dad and his troop.

• 21:46Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my god.

• 21:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I recently moved to a new position and I've already heard there's a lot of history of activity at One Park. Hopefully, I'll have some more stories to share with you soon. From LJ.

• 21:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 22:18Corinne Vien?

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• 22:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Toss, toss.

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• 23:38Corinne Vien?

  Holy shit, my heart hurts thinking about that.

• 23:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Little kid.

• 23:41Corinne Vien?

  The little kid, yeah.

• 23:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wandering.

• 23:44Corinne Vien?

  I know. I can't imagine. So, so, so sad. Oh, I really hope his spirit is just, it's an active choice to sometimes come down and wander, and it's not that he's trapped there.

• 23:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He's just exploring the woods.

• 23:55Corinne Vien?

  I hope so, for the enjoyment of the woods and not confused and not able to move on. But my god, yeah, it does sound like this location is ripe with doppelgangers.

• 24:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So many.

• 24:06Corinne Vien?

  So weird, like the mimics or like maybe there's weird timeline shifts or.

• 24:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's weird because like if it was a weird timeline or glitch in The Matrix, it makes me wonder, those three people, which one belongs to this universe? Which of the three were the ones who started the fire from this one? Or were they from a different universe and they came in real quick, popped in and then? Or is there a weird time warp thing happening in those woods in that park? And they could be in two places at once in a weird way.

• 24:34Corinne Vien?

  Is this trio kind of like superhero kids?

• 24:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They can glitch.

• 24:38Corinne Vien?

  Are they able to do multiple things at once?

• 24:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like dark.

• 24:41Corinne Vien?

  Which I never finished. I think I got like one or two episodes.

• 24:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The last season was like hard to, it was just hard to conceptualize because it was so out of this world.

• 24:49Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 24:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But in this world.

• 24:51Corinne Vien?

  And then it makes me wonder, okay, so now I'm making up a scenario in my head where it's like the brush fire, which is obviously a bad thing because it can be so dangerous to start a fire. Was that first to like stop something or like do something that we don't know?

• 25:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We don't know.

• 25:06Corinne Vien?

  I don't know.

• 25:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's an unsolved crime and it doesn't seem like it will be solved.

• 25:10Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 25:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Also.

• 25:11Corinne Vien?

  The fact that they all had alibis to and evidence of their alibis.

• 25:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank goodness they had the evidence.

• 25:16Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, but it also kind of makes me now think that maybe they do split off and have, I don't know, I don't know.

• 25:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But all three of them were seen and there's a photo of all three of them at the time that the fire was started far away.

• 25:28Corinne Vien?

  It's so weird.

• 25:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And they weren't out of breath and the people were chasing the suspects the whole time.

• 25:34Corinne Vien?

  It's so, so confusing.

• 25:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So confusing. Also, if you see the pendulum, Daniel moving, it is because there is a heater fan air blowing on him and not because he's trying to communicate.

• 25:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I guess this winter is not a good time to actually test the pendulums.

• 25:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I wanted him to be here.

• 25:50Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I have one that's called Three Stories in One.

• 25:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Love it.

• 25:53Corinne Vien?

  Perfect. Hello, my ghostesses. Buckle up, ladies. This story is long and it has three different ghost stories thrown together. It's also really not long. It's pretty short.

• 26:03Corinne Vien?

  One of my close friends was moving, so for her going away party, she had a bonfire like you do in Iowa. So I'm sitting around the fire and we start traveling to the idea of ghost stories. I started telling mine to one guy who started to listen. So I was about seven or eight at my local community theater. I was sitting alone backstage and there was only two people on stage. I'm sitting on a bar stool when all of a sudden, someone pulled on the back of my shirt. I turn around and no one was there. I flipped out. I ran to the scene shop and 20 years later, I still refuse to be alone in the theater in the dark. So this guy decides to scoff at me and tells me this story and warning, this story happens to be pretty graphic.

• 26:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 26:44Corinne Vien?

  My god.

• 26:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This happened in the theater?

• 26:47Corinne Vien?

  Trying to one up your story. This is around the bonfire. So she tells this guy like, oh yeah, I was tugged in as a child in the theater. And he's like, you think that's a scary ghost story? Here's mine. Okay, so here's the-

• 26:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is actually my dream bonfire.

• 27:00Corinne Vien?

  Right?

• 27:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So.

• 27:01Corinne Vien?

  His dad slash uncle, I don't quite remember, is a first responder from that area that I live in. And he went down to Louisiana to help right after Hurricane Katrina hit. He and a few guys were assigned to walk down this one row of houses to see if there were any bodies that happened to be there for them to pull. The flood level went to the roof in this area and that was after the water levels went down. So at one point, one of the team members starts saying that they can hear a baby crying somewhere. So thinking that there might be a child somewhere that's alive, they start running to the sound.

• 27:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, no.

• 27:30Corinne Vien?

  They find the house where the cry was the loudest. They burst in, they run upstairs and they find the room and inside the crib was a small baby that was, and to make it a little less graphic from what he told me, sadly passed away. The guy who first heard the cry went to pick up the lifeless child and as soon as he touched it, the crying stopped. So as terrifying as this story is, the guy was obviously trying to gross me out with some of the details he was sharing. We went back and forth about how he's a skeptic and I'm very much a believer. And during the latter conversation across the bonfire, another person stops our conversation dead when he tells us this story. And backstory, this third person is Native American. He tells us a story about how he has had a spirit following his family named Herbie.

• 28:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I like Herbie.

• 28:16Corinne Vien?

  Don't be fooled by the name.

• 28:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 28:18Corinne Vien?

  The way he described this spirit is freaking terrifying.

• 28:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 28:22Corinne Vien?

  He described Herbie as dressed like the Grim Reaper, but crawled on all fours, exorcist style. Apparently way, way back, this spirit was human and did this guy's ancestors wrong and was punished to eternal servitude to his family.

• 28:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What?

• 28:37Corinne Vien?

  From what I could understand, this spirit is bound to his family because they have a piece of his skeleton wrapped in a medicine man's protection. And not only does this spirit protect this family, it can be sicced onto other people. Someone wronged this guy's dad and he sent Herbie after him and it did not farewell for the other guy. Yeah, so then I went home, I watched rainbows and unicorns, so I didn't have nightmares for months. I love your guys' podcast, I'm still working on current episodes. See you on the other side, Megan.

• 29:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I want to know way more details about Herbie.

• 29:10Corinne Vien?

  And who are you friends with? Like, what's this bonfire?

• 29:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Can we be invited?

• 29:14Corinne Vien?

  Because this is, people have intense stories.

• 29:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you collect some haunted friends.

• 29:18Corinne Vien?

  Geez, um.

• 29:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The Katrina one is so sad.

• 29:21Corinne Vien?

  That one is traumatizing to hear.

• 29:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I, and I imagine that there are so many stories similar to that or spiritual stories. I mean, that area is already so spiritual and filled with energy, but like with all of that death and all of that trauma, there were probably so many experiences of like hearing someone, but was it their spirit and the child? Whoo, okay, well.

• 29:47Corinne Vien?

  Also, I've never, like, it's, it's wild that there's like a crouching, crawling, creepy ass spirit that you would feel is probably like the scariest thing in the world, but that it's like, it belongs to you.

• 29:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But clearly it's forced to stay there. So like, it's almost like if you let it go, it would probably almost enact revenge on you.

• 30:08Corinne Vien?

  Maybe, or like, could this be the time to break the curse? Like, can you separate?

• 30:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Release him.

• 30:14Corinne Vien?

  What your ancestors did and what this guy did with your ancestors, like, move on.

• 30:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Let's, yeah, talk about breaking ancestral.

• 30:22Corinne Vien?

  Generational curses.

• 30:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Curses, yeah. Oh my gosh. Okay, well, since I teased this and I clearly was butchering the way that the story was told, I did find it about the life alert. This is called Demon Dark Entity Story. Okay, well, this is not how I thought it was gonna start based on the information you had said. This is from our listener Rebecca. "I love you both and I adore your podcasts and I have a great experience to share with you. It's my sister's demon story, but I have her permission to share. I have other stories of my own, but this is dramatic." Okay, so this is written from Rebecca's sister's perspective, so it's first person. "I received a call from my mom, who was in the hospital for a health issue and was awaiting discharge to home. She was concerned about the condition of her house because apparently she had let things go.

• 31:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She knew it was a filthy mess and asked me to clean it up so it would be a safe place for her to discharge from the hospital. I drove a few hours to her home. I arrived with all my cleaning supplies and a suitcase with my belongings, planning to be there for a few days to help her out. When I let myself inside, it was obvious that my mother had done nothing for months. Every dish was dirty and moldy, garbage was everywhere. And apparently, my mother had a frequent craving for Chinese delivery food. There was a nasty smell, like no laundry had been done in several months. It was bad. And on top of the physical things I could see and smell, there was an overall sense of gloom, a funky dark energy to the place." Which makes sense with all of this. "The first thing I did was change all of the bedding, so I would have a clean place to sleep for the next few nights.

• 31:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then I went to work on doing a deep clean of my mom's house. The first night, I woke up at around 3:00 a.m. And the bedside lamp in my mom's room had turned itself on. I turned it off and went back to sleep. The second night, I woke up again at 3:00 a.m. The bedside lamp had again turned itself on. But this time, I realized it was not a coincidence, so I unplugged it and went back to sleep. The next morning, I put the lamp in the closet. The third night, again, 3:00 a.m., I was awoken. But this time, my bedroom was full of paramedics and firefighters. I was so shocked what was going on, and they explained to me that my life alert button had gone off." There had been no response verbally on the device and there was no response at the

• 32:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  front door, so they came in. But I explained, yeah, my mother had a Life Alert button, but she was in the hospital and that Life Alert button was downstairs in the living room. They insisted that someone had pushed it and we went to check it out. They looked it over to ensure there were batteries and they showed me and explained that it is not easy to accidentally push it. You have to push it intentionally to set off the alarm. I had no idea and no explanation as to how it had been pushed. The next morning, I woke up and went to war because it was obvious to me at this point that there was something fucking with me and whatever it had been was probably fucking with my mom for some time now. It felt like a demon. I got some water, prayed over it, walked around the house sprinkling water in every room and anointing all the windows and doors.

• 33:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I commanded in the name of Jesus for the entity to leave the house and that they were not allowed to enter the house again and could not interact with me or my mother. They were banished. And truly instantly, I felt better, like the gloom lifted and the house felt lighter. The fourth night, at around 3:00 a.m., I awoke. This time, there was someone knocking on the window to my bedroom from the outside. No one was there. I knew in my soul, it was whatever entity or demon I had banished, letting me know it was still there. I prayed for it to leave me alone in the name of Jesus and the knocking stopped. I finished cleaning and set my mom up with a housekeeping service and a neighbor who could run errands for her like grocery shop. I was happy to welcome her home after she was discharged from the hospital and my mom

• 34:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  was very appreciative and she was impressed with how nice the place looked and smelled. Before I left, she told me that she could tell that I had done something else to her house. She said it felt lighter energetically. The energy was very different and she was like, it feels like a darkness has been removed. I never mentioned anything to my mom about the gloomy feeling or these 3:00 a.m. incidents that occurred four nights in a row or about the blessing I had done to the house, but sure enough, she felt it. As far as I know, the entity never returned. I hope you enjoyed this encounter from Rebecca and her sister.

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• 35:40Corinne Vien?

  It's interesting because if she hadn't said that it feels demonic and it feels dark and oppressive, I would have thought that perhaps the spirits of the house were like, oh my God, who are you? You're not the person who's supposed to be here. After witnessing probably the life alert button going off and her mom.

• 35:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Going to the hospital.

• 35:57Corinne Vien?

  Being taken to the hospital. So they're probably like beep beep beep, like press the alarm and get this girl out of here. Intruder, intruder. Like that's how they know, get people here. You press this button.

• 36:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 36:07Corinne Vien?

  But the fact that it did feel oppressive and dark, obviously like.

• 36:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. It is interesting to call first responders though. Like it does make me wonder if there was a good spirit with the bad spirit or if it was just the bad spirit trying to fuck with her and mess up her sleep.

• 36:22Corinne Vien?

  It's also one of those things where it's like when someone has a house that there's like a hoarding or lack of cleaning and that sort of situation, obviously they're in such a tough state mentally and probably physically as well.

• 36:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 36:34Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, like it makes sense that there's some, they're unfortunately targets for entities that like to feed on chaos and depressive states and people who aren't feeling quite themselves.

• 36:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I am glad that their mom has them to help clean and take care of her.

• 36:53Corinne Vien?

  Me too. I have another story. We get a double one from Riley who sent the 000 call. So Riley sent in another story called, don't scare the baby paramedics. G'day ladies.

• 37:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  G'day.

• 37:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That was better.

• 37:08Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 37:11Corinne Vien?

  I have a few stories to share about the haunted accommodations my employer used to put us up in for our training courses. Besides the horrible food, shocking state of the bathrooms, holes in the floor that dropped from the top floor to the bottom, and the amount of dust that layered every square inch, there was also plenty of paranormal shit going down as the accommodations is on the grounds of an old psychiatric hospital in Sydney, Australia.

• 37:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, I mean, speaking about like having dark energy festering in a place where it's like cluttered and dirty and not clean, it's what like, it's one thing to have crappy accommodations in the sense of like small bed, not like a lot of room.

• 37:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 37:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But you can dust.

• 37:50Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, this is.

• 37:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It can be clean.

• 37:52Corinne Vien?

  Was this just a one time thing? It was like their first time booking this accommodation and they had no idea that it was gonna be so terrible?

• 37:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 37:58Corinne Vien?

  Or is this like a continued thing where it's like, oh, we get the best price over it?

• 38:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 38:02Corinne Vien?

  So and so in.

• 38:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Bedbug in.

• 38:04Corinne Vien?

  Bedbug in. They used to bring patients through tunnels via the harbor at the psychiatric hospital.

• 38:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, wow.

• 38:11Corinne Vien?

  So on to the story. The first story takes place at 3 a.m. for a dear friend of mine who needed to go to the bathroom. To paint a picture, the lights on our floor, top floor, did not work in either the male or female bathrooms. So he was minding his own business when he heard a crash and a thud in the cubicle next door to him. And being the classic below key is, he yells out, "You all right, mate? You're, you're all right, mate?"

• 38:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was very.

• 38:34Corinne Vien?

  This is not gonna go well. I'm gonna stop trying.

• 38:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Our friend, not food.

• 38:38Corinne Vien?

  Food, with a groan in response. So he finishes up and he rushes to the cubicle next to him, where there is nobody to be seen. But the door is now off of its hinges and is now in the cubicle.

• 38:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Off of its hinges?

• 38:51Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, so the door crashed.

• 38:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jesus.

• 38:54Corinne Vien?

  And someone was groaning. Who was groaning? He did not hear any footsteps before or after, no flushing, and he was the only one in there at the entrance.

• 39:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 39:03Corinne Vien?

  He goes white to this day telling this story. Oh, so scary. And it's like right next to you as your pants are down.

• 39:11Corinne Vien?

  Another story happened to another lady on my floor. She had gotten back to our accommodation after a weekend and put on some fresh sheets as she always did. Later that night, after a couple of rounds of trivia and beers and a snitty.

• 39:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's a snitty?

• 39:24Corinne Vien?

  I don't know.

• 39:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like a cigarette?

• 39:26Corinne Vien?

  Smoke or something?

• 39:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I don't know. We both thought the same thing, snitty.

• 39:31Corinne Vien?

  Snitty slang, Australia?

• 39:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A chicken schnitzel. Which comes with a generous side of chips and a forest of a salad.

• 39:37Corinne Vien?

  That's not what we thought.

• 39:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not at all.

• 39:40Corinne Vien?

  Okay, now we know what a snitty is.

• 39:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's legendary.

• 39:42Corinne Vien?

  Wow, beers and a robust meal, basically. Chicken dinner. Okay, so after a couple of rounds of trivia and beers and a snitty, we all head back to head off to bed. We wake a few hours later to our friend screaming and myself and three blokes on our floor and the other five women all ran to her room to see if she was okay. She was woken by something dragging her out of bed. And when she was released, she turned the light on and her fresh, clean sheets were covered in numbers written in pencil, which she swears to this day she didn't have any pencils.

• 40:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What numbers?

• 40:19Corinne Vien?

  That's freaking.

• 40:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, ghosts got a math? I don't know, that's terrifying.

• 40:25Corinne Vien?

  That is, that feels like some ancient curse was like written on her bed sheet.

• 40:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jesus.

• 40:30Corinne Vien?

  Our last story happened to me and to one of the younger guys on our floor. A group of us had just done a night tour of the grounds on a ghost hunt and I refused to look at anything or anywhere because I'm not prepared for that.

• 40:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Just be blindfolded the whole ghost hunt?

• 40:45Corinne Vien?

  We were making our way back to our rooms and we decided to take the lift. Now, we were warned prior that this place was haunted and the lift is ancient and it's also a little spooky. So, smart decisions on our part. We get in the elevator, we hit level four, the top level, and off we go. The doors close, the lift shudders to life and the lights go out. We're in complete darkness. We're now both gripping each other. We get to level three. The doors open as if someone was waiting to get in and then it closes again. But instead of going up, we're going back down. The lights are still out. We get to the bottom. The door is open, but only halfway. So we're unable to get out. And then it closes and we're rattling our way back up again. But this time, as the doors close, the lights flicker on.

• 41:29Corinne Vien?

  And this time we get to the top floor. My mate and I, we rush out as soon as the lift doors open. And once we're out of the lift, we realized just how cool it was to be in that lift because the corridor was warm. And how we both felt so scared in lift. But before long, we were laughing and we were in good spirits again. So fuck that lift. We never went back in.

• 41:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In good spirits is a good phrase to use.

• 41:53Corinne Vien?

  Some other honorable mentions from this place. A mate was held down in the middle of the night by a weight on his shoulders and chest. On level two, you could hear running up and down the corridor. In another wing of the accommodation, you could hear yelling at all hours of the night and doors that were locked would be wide open. There were also reports of faces and shadows being seen in the windows. So yeah, safe to say there were more complaints than there were compliments. And now trainees get lush apartments. My wife got the nicest apartment for training and I feel cheated. Lots of love from Australia, Riley.

• 42:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, Riley, you like ghost stories. That's why you listen to us, right? So maybe you actually benefited because now you have ghost stories to share.

• 42:36Corinne Vien?

  Man.

• 42:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it's also so sad because it was a psychiatric ward. So all of these encounters almost feel reminiscent of the people who were in the psychiatric ward. The writing numbers on the sheets, the being dragged out of bed. Like, did a patient get dragged out of bed by a nurse or a doctor?

• 42:53Corinne Vien?

  Screaming, crying, being in pain, being fearful.

• 42:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The being held down, like.

• 42:58Corinne Vien?

  The door to the bathroom, like busting through, like maybe someone kicked it through. Like, there's so much danger.

• 43:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's so much.

• 43:04Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, you're making me feel really bad for all these spirits.

• 43:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. A ghost ridden elevator with you. That's kind of cool.

• 43:09Corinne Vien?

  That is cool. And a skinny ghost because I barely had it open for them to get out. On the first floor. Thunderman.

• 43:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh man, why does like the image of Slenderman being a psychiatric patient kind of make sense?

• 43:22Corinne Vien?

  Because it does.

• 43:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And also wanna be a children's book in my brain. I have one that is wild to wrap up with.

• 43:28Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 43:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it is called Comforted by the Ghost of an EMT After Being Hit by a Truck. From our listener Sammy.

• 43:35Corinne Vien?

  Whoa.

• 43:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello, beautiful ladies. First and foremost, I wanted to thank you for allowing such a safe and welcoming space for paranormal stories. My story, though very heartwarming, is very emotionally triggering to me and has taken a while for me to feel comfortable to share it.

• 43:50Corinne Vien?

  Well, thank you for feeling comfortable enough to share it with us.

• 43:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank you. To preface, I was in a horrific car accident in 2018 on Memorial Day in Arizona while driving to my friend's going away brunch. I was stopped waiting to turn right at a red light when a truck on the opposite side of the street ran the light and overcorrected, sending him directly towards me. The driver crashed into my driver's side so hard that I was pushed off the street, pushing my passenger's side of my car into an electrical box. I was pinned in my car on both sides with a lifted truck sitting on my left leg. On impact, my head crashed through the driver's side window, leaving me unconscious for about one to two minutes.

• 44:31Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god.

• 44:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I had absolutely no feeling in my legs and extreme pain in my hip and back. As you can imagine, I was screaming bloody murder, sobbing hysterically and screaming for a god that I don't even believe in to help me. In the midst of my screams and punching of the steering wheel to move the pain somewhere other than the literal everywhere I was feeling it, someone shoved their upper body into my passenger's side window that was shattered on impact. It was a middle aged woman who stated that she was an EMT. I reached out immediately and I grabbed her hand and sobbed. In the calmest voice I have ever heard, she asked me where my pain was, told me not to move my neck, and held my hand while I panicked. I was unable to move, still crushed by this large truck practically sitting in my lap.

• 45:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This unknown woman had such a comforting aura around her, and I squeezed her hand until I don't even know when. But this is where it gets foggy and a bit creepy. I don't ever remember letting go of her hand, nor do I remember her leaving my car window. As the fire department tore the door off of my car, paramedics pulled me out, rushed me to the ambulance where they started an IV, cut off my clothes, big sorry to my friend whose brand new shirt I had borrowed and totally ruined. At least of anyone's worries.

• 45:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 45:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I was rushed to the nearest trauma center. Now, I lived in Arizona by myself at the time and had no family near me. The police were able to contact my parents who lived in Florida and they rushed to the airport while I was in a trauma center dealing with a fractured knee, a pelvis broken in three places, and a severe concussion.

• 45:55Corinne Vien?

  My gosh.

• 45:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  When my mom and dad arrived at the hospital later that day, I told them about this woman, EMT stranger that helped me, and I begged for them to call the police and find her name so that I could thank her as soon as I could walk again. My mom did just that. However, there was no woman there. This woman did not exist. My police report has only two witnesses, two joggers that were on the opposite side of the street, and PD stated that there were no female EMTs or paramedics on the scene. I remember her so clearly, but the EMTs and paramedics and ambulance driver were all male, but I insisted that there was a woman and I needed to find her. Upon calling a different officer that was on the scene to see if he had any answers, he explained to my mom that even the video evidence from the scene shows no woman, nobody,

• 46:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  by the passenger seat window. To this day, I cannot tell if the severe head trauma was playing tricks on me, but every other detail I have about that crash is still so ingrained in my memory and correct. I can't deny that safe feeling of having her hold my hand and that vivid memory of her. It's a feeling I can't put into words. I firmly believe that this woman was real, not a figment of my imagination or my injuries, but maybe a spirit reaching out to help me. Whoever's family ghost she is, she is still taking care of those in need from the other side. Thankfully, over a year later, I'm walking around and doing so much better. I still have memory lapses occasionally as well as nerve damage to my back and hip, but I'll take it. Thank you for taking the time to read my story of the ghost EMT who helped save my life and my sanity.

• 47:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I wish you both nothing but happiness and safety. Stay spooky. I'll see you on the other side. Sammy.

• 47:31Corinne Vien?

  Wow. Oh, my gosh. A horrible, horrible accident. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I can't imagine.

• 47:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. And I'm so grateful you're okay.

• 47:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yeah. It's just so wild because there are so many stories like this where it's like, what is it? Is it a guardian angel? Is it?

• 47:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 47:48Corinne Vien?

  An EMT, the spirit of an EMT?

• 47:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, she said she was, yeah.

• 47:52Corinne Vien?

  Right. How are we brought together with these people who help us in those moments? It's like, it reminds me, I feel like we more recently read an email too, where someone's dad hit a telephone pole and was told by a teenage boy not to get out of the car. And there were live wires everywhere, but like that boy was not alive. It's like,

• 48:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, how?

• 48:13Corinne Vien?

  How is this happening?

• 48:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Are they in that area? Are they, is there like a, a life alert for the ghosts?

• 48:18Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 48:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And they're like, someone needs us, send an EMT. Because there's also, there was a whole Unsolved Mysteries episode about this phenomenon. There was a man who was in a really, really horrific car accident. His car had flipped and a woman like pulled him out of the car. And like, sat with him and, and kept him company until the EMTs and everyone arrived. But then he starts asking around for that woman and they were like, you were alone when we came here. And he's like, I didn't get myself out of the car.

• 48:46Corinne Vien?

  Which is so crazy. And I feel like it might've been that same episode. And I think we talked about it on our podcast where there was that car that I think flipped over on the side of the ridge. And the only way to get to that car was basically like a 10 minute sprint. And a guy got out of his car and he was prepared to make that 10 minute sprint, get over the bridge and get to the ridge. And within like 30 seconds, he was at the car pulling the guy out. And he was like, how did I just get here? And it was like something blipped him over there.

• 49:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Chills.

• 49:14Corinne Vien?

  Ew.

• 49:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, amazing.

• 49:17Corinne Vien?

  So amazing.

• 49:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's a beautiful story. Then all of these instances and like Sammy, maybe it's your own guardian.

• 49:24Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. That's a good point. Have someone with the EMT training.

• 49:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know that this probably, I can't imagine like I would ever want to go back to this place, but the scene where the accident happened, if you stood in that spot by the pole where the woman had reached her hand in through the passenger side window, like, would she reappear to you?

• 49:42Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 49:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Would, I don't know.

• 49:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, would you just suddenly have like a knowing, a download?

• 49:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Would her hand touch you?

• 49:49Corinne Vien?

  Who it is.

• 49:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it's wild.

• 49:51Corinne Vien?

  Oh. Well, thank you everyone for sharing your stories.

• 49:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We have more. And I know you all have more, so please email them to us at [email protected]. And if you want all episodes ad free and one week early, video and audio formats, you can join us on Patreon. It's $5 a month. You get every episode one week early, ad free. You get one bonus episode a month. You get to join book club and we have campfire stories every Tuesday on Patreon where you can come share your story live.

• 50:20Corinne Vien?

  Thank you to Jamie who edits and produces our podcast. We so appreciate you.

• 50:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. And we love you all.

• 50:26Corinne Vien?

  And we will.

• 50:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See you on the other side.