The Cancer Conversation Women Aren't Having Yet with Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy

Cancer rates are rising rapidly, especially among younger women. In this powerful conversation, Dr. Mindy sits down with integrative cancer expert Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy to explore what is driving this surge and what women need to understand about prevention. Dr. Connealy shares her 40 years of clinical experience treating chronic illness and cancer. She explains why hormones are only one small piece of the health puzzle and why lifestyle, stress, toxins, sleep, and metabolic health play a much larger role in disease risk. Together they break down the truth about hormone replacement therapy, GLP-1 weight loss drugs, peptides, and fasting. Most importantly, they explain how women can create an internal environment where their cells can thrive. This episode will change how you think about health, prevention, and longevity. To view full show notes, resources mentioned, discount codes, transcripts, and more, visit https://drmindypelz.com/ep331/ Check out our community membership at https://resetacademy.drmindypelz.com

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• 0:01Mindy Pelz?

  Okay, let me ask you a personal question. And this one is a really important one, which is, when was the last time you had your vitamin D checked? And I'm saying this because in all my years of working with women, low vitamin D is one of the most consistent findings I see, and one of the most consistently missed. And vitamin D matters for so many aspects of your health. We're talking about a deficiency that can show up as hormonal imbalance, mood struggles, poor sleep, immune issues, even stubborn weight that won't budge no matter what you do. But here's the part that most people don't know.

• 0:43Mindy Pelz?

  Taking an isolated D3 supplement isn't enough. This isn't like just running down to the local store and grabbing some D3. Your body actually needs D3 to be combined with very specific cofactors to actually absorb and utilize vitamin D the way nature intended it. And most supplements on the market don't include these cofactors. That's why I personally love Cataplex D from Standard Process. It's a whole food supplement. It's vitamin D complex, not just an isolated nutrient. There's an incredible difference between checking a box and actually moving the needle on your health, and this one really moves the needle.

• 1:27Mindy Pelz?

  In fact, in my clinic, we used to test vitamin D, and we could see with a product like Cataplex D, we could see on lab work, the vitamin D levels in people go up. So you can learn more and you can get yourself some vitamin D. You can test out Cataplex D at drmindypels.standarprocess.com. Enjoy.

• 1:58Mindy Pelz?

  On this episode of the Resetter Podcast, I am bringing you Dr. Lee Erin Connealy. Now, I've brought you her before because she is absolutely one of my go-tos when it comes to anything that we need to know about cancer. You're going to hear in this episode, she has not only a book on helping people prevent and heal from cancer, she has a clinic that is doing some of the most amazing integrative cancer treatment that I've ever heard, and you'll hear it here in this episode. And she has an online program or online community

• 2:37Mindy Pelz?

  called Connealy MD that you can tap into once a month to learn a different lifestyle tool to prevent or reverse cancer. And in this episode, what I really wanted to bring her to you on was I wanted to know, through the lens of cancer, what do we need to know about hormone replacement therapy, GLP-1s, and peptides? These are three trends that are gaining momentum in the healthcare world. And I know many of you are concerned about HRT and cancer, so we spent a large amount of time on that. She goes through blood work,

• 3:20Mindy Pelz?

  she goes through lifestyle, she'll tell you what to look for. It is so well mapped out. Then we went to GLP-1s, and this one is going to shock you. So if you are either on a GLP-1 or you're thinking about a GLP-1, you need to listen to her advice. This is a 40-year, in practice for 40-year cancer doc. She's been treating cancers and helping with longevity and prevention for 40 years. You have to hear what she says about GLP-1 hormones. So you make the right decision for you. Then we go to peptides, which is so popular right now. And she's going to tell you some of her favorite peptides.

• 4:02Mindy Pelz?

  She's going to tell you what to look out for if you have active cancer when it comes to peptides. And then, of course, we finish on fasting. So many of you have asked me, what types of cancers can you fast with? And what can't you fast with? And so I wanted to bring Dr. Keneely to answer that. So you get it straight from an expert who has been in the trenches with cancer patients. So this is a phenomenal episode. You're going to want to take notes. You may listen to it a few times. It's definitely one of those episodes where you would want to listen to before you go into your doctor's office. So you can go in very educated and motivated and be an equal with them.

• 4:44Mindy Pelz?

  So there's a lot of chemistry in it. So I don't want you to bug out because of the words that your brain might not understand because she does a great job of making it very applicable. And I really, as I was going through and interviewing her, I thought, this is one of those episodes that is going to save lives. So if you are touched by it, you are inspired by it, please pass it along. Please share it with other people because what Dr. Keneely has to say here is truly life-saving at a time in which cancer rates are higher than ever. So with no further ado, Dr. Keneely. And as always, I hope this really helps.

• 5:29Mindy Pelz?

  Well, the first question I have to ask you, because there is still massive amounts of confusion, is about hormone replacement therapy. I get asked this all the time. What do I think? This is the hormone replacement therapy is not my wheelhouse. And I have my own personal opinions about it. But can we start off with what do we need to know? Where is hormone replacement therapy dangerous, if at all? And where is it a miracle cure? And how do we use this as a tool that each one of us can benefit from? Not a tool that starts to build cancer.

• 6:08Speaker 01

  Right. So first of all, when we think of hormones, men think testosterone, women think estrogen.

• 6:18Speaker 01

  But you are making hundreds of hormones.

• 6:22Mindy Pelz?

  Well said.

• 6:22Speaker 01

  You have something called the hypothalamic-pituitary axis. The hypothalamus sends releasing hormones to your pituitary. Your pituitary sends stimulating hormones to all the different glands and or signals in your body. So, a woman has basically four hormonal systems. The thyroid,

• 6:46Speaker 01

  the pancreas, the adrenals that sit on top of your kidneys like little hats, and the ovaries. And it's not like they make a hormone. They make lots of hormones, like the thyroid is T zero, one, two, three, and four. Okay?

• 7:05Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 7:05Speaker 01

  So, um, so your thyroid is the battery to your body. If that is not working, you're not alive.

• 7:14Speaker 01

  Pancreas is making primarily insulin and glucagon and pancreatic enzymes. But we're talking about hormones. Then the ovaries make really about ten estrogens when you're making hormones, progesterone and testosterone. The adrenals that sit on top of your kidneys make over a hundred hormones. We haven't even discovered those.

• 7:37Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, that's interesting.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  Yes, we haven't even discovered all of them. DHEA is the primary adrenal hormone, cortisol, but there are many others. That's why there's not a hormone for the adrenal glands. Now,

• 7:53Mindy Pelz?

  Fascinating.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  There are other hormones. We have prolactin. We have melanin. We have aldosterone. We have bazopressin. We have growth hormone. We have insulin-like growth for, I mean, lots of hormones. But hormones are the natural drugs to your body.

• 8:13Mindy Pelz?

  That's a beautiful way to look at it.

• 8:15Speaker 01

  And you're born with those and they need to work. So like as I said before, if you did not, if I removed your thyroid. You and I did not give you replacement. You couldn't wake up.

• 8:29Mindy Pelz?

  Hmm, wow.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  Right. So that's how important your thyroid home and the thyroid is the central organ to the endocrine system.

• 8:40Mindy Pelz?

  Hmm.

• 8:41Speaker 01

  Okay, so we have a lot of thyroid problems these days.

• 8:46Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, we do.

• 8:46Speaker 01

  Lots of different ones. Okay. And so then people really forget about the adrenal glands. So your adrenal glands are your stress, longevity and immune horm- uh, um, endocrine gland. Okay. And there was a famous Kennedy, president, President John Kennedy. He had Addison's disease and he had to take all these hormones to stay alive. If I took your adrenals out, you wouldn't wake up either. Now, the ovaries, if you remove the ovaries, you are able to function, but not that great.

• 9:26Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  If you took testosterone, uh, away testosterone, you know, from the testes, you know, you're just not going to feel that good. And I know because I have cancer patients where they castrate the man and or the woman by drugs or surgery or both.

• 9:44Mindy Pelz?

  Wow.

• 9:44Speaker 01

  Okay. And so I know when you talk to these patients, they don't feel that good. Okay. And quality of life is everything. It's not how long we live, it's how well we live today.

• 9:57Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm. Beautiful.

• 9:58Speaker 01

  And not feeling well makes you sick.

• 10:01Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. Vicious cycle.

• 10:03Speaker 01

  Yes. And so, so we want to try to make the patient have an existence.

• 10:09Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  Right. And so, so when people talk about hormones, because it's something I've been doing for a very long time.

• 10:18Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  Uh, because you, uh, we talked about it last time, but because my mother took DES when she was pregnant with me.

• 10:27Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:28Speaker 01

  Uh, and that was a very potent estrogen that was given for 40 years, knowing its carcinogenic potential.

• 10:37Speaker 01

  And then I started seeing cancer hospital when I was, you know, sixteen. But anyway, so I never had two periods in a row in my life. So I was one day normal and one day crazy. And so I never didn't know who I was wa- waking up to until I found progesterone. And then progesterone like saved my life. So, and back then I used injectable, because this was a long time ago, because they didn't have what they have available today. So any woman alive today, they're lucky that we have the vital information. As long as it is correct information.

• 11:13Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 11:14Mindy Pelz?

  Right, yeah.

• 11:15Speaker 01

  Because there is so much information, but we have to treat the patient with the problem, not the problem of the patient.

• 11:22Mindy Pelz?

  Well said.

• 11:24Speaker 01

  And so so many people, like we how, everybody wants to have this like little, um, you know, precise spreadsheet, and that's what you do for everybody. And medicine has become a robotic conveyor belt. And that doesn't work. Because you know, as in, there's a billion people, all of us have a different fingerprint. And everyone is unique. So you can't just say, oh, here, you need some estrogen progesterone to so, you know, whatever. You know, you can't do that because you gotta take into consideration. Do they have fibroids? You don't want to give them estrogen, okay?

• 11:57Mindy Pelz?

  Can I just say one thing on that? Uh, I, this has been what has made me so irritated by the resurgence of the HRT conversation. Is it, it, and I, I want to make sure that people listening really hear what you're saying. Because you can't just slap a estrogen patch on and every single woman and menopause becomes a breeze. Is that, uh, am I accurate in that?

• 12:24Speaker 01

  You're one thousand percent accurate.

• 12:25Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 12:26Speaker 01

  Okay, first of all. Estrogen patch is estradiol? Yes, it's biologically identical, but like I just reviewed a case before coming on because the lady complained of swollen breast and she's taking this, this and this. And I didn't give her the estradiol patch, but someone else, but then they always consult with me, you know, because people, it's okay, good, lots of opinions, it's fine. And then I, she complained of breast tenderness. Well, that's a classic sign it's too much estrogen. Okay. So I said, okay, tell her to decrease, you know, go to a half and, you know, let us know how she feels after a week. So, um, so there's a lot of nuances. Yeah.

• 13:10Speaker 01

  To hormones, again, because there's no one like you. Yeah. And what one person feels good and the other person doesn't quite feel good. And then there's that strange female, like one in a thousand that have no symptoms and they feel great after menopause. And you're like, well, you are so lucky. Yeah. I haven't, I've only met maybe one or two of those. Yeah, well, one in a thousand, I say. Oh, yeah, yeah, there we go. So, so it's very, very rare. And I'm like, count your blessings. You are so lucky because that is not normal at all. Because and menopause kind of takes a long time. So you've got the peri or pre-menopause, then you have the menopause, but menopause says, means cessation of hormones for a year. Okay.

• 13:54Speaker 01

  Well, so that means it goes on. So it has all these stages and that's another thing. How do you treat the stages of menopause? Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, we haven't even identified how many different stages there are. Exactly. And what, what your stage and my stage are going to be different. Yeah. Okay. Exactly. And I always tell people, nature is nature. We have to honor nature, what is going on. And then we have to support the body with what it's not doing. Right. Yeah, so, so, you know, so that's how I do. And then like in six months, you're, you may be a different person.

• 14:25Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 14:26Speaker 01

  So we gotta look at that. Until you stabilize. Now, at my age, my body, I pretty much take the same stuff now.

• 14:33Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 14:33Speaker 01

  That I've taken, but I'm sixty eight, so.

• 14:35Mindy Pelz?

  Right, you're long post.

• 14:37Speaker 01

  I'm long past the, when I was in menopause at fifty.

• 14:40Mindy Pelz?

  So is there like a, there's no gold standard then for like, hey, at thirty five, progesterone's going down, you should maybe go in on some synthetic progesterone, and then at forty, maybe estrogen's going down, maybe gonna go, like, there's no map, is what I'm hearing, for when you take hormone replacement and how much you take it and which combination you need.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  Right, so hormonal problems start happening about thirty. But I have patients who are twenty six, had a baby, felt great. After the baby, feeling good, and then crash.

• 15:18Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 15:20Speaker 01

  And so that means they need some fortification, but not necessarily with hormones. I use something called protomorphogens, which are the building block proteins. Are you familiar with standard process?

• 15:33Mindy Pelz?

  I am, yeah, we actually are doing some collaborative work with them.

• 15:36Speaker 01

  So, you know, standard process I've used for years.

• 15:38Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 15:39Speaker 01

  But they have protomorphogens, which are the building block proteins that turn on organs or glands. So if you use Simplex F, and that helps direct the, fortify and support the endocrine system to get healthier. And then they feel great. They're like, in a week or so, they're like, oh, my God, I feel great. Okay?

• 15:58Mindy Pelz?

  Amazing.

• 15:59Speaker 01

  So, so I give them Simplex F, and that would be good for almost any woman at any age because of what it does, because your endocrine system, like I said, it's the natural drugs of your body. So if you can naturally do it, that's ideal. Okay, it's never perfect, you know? But it, it's the right way to go, okay? And then what I always do is I check, if I, I listen to the patient. The patient has all the answers, okay?

• 16:28Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, it's beautiful.

• 16:28Speaker 01

  And every patient isn't, is their own textbook. Right? And so, yes, you can check their progesterone levels, serum levels on about eighteen, nineteen, twenty, or twenty one, one of those days, and see if it's sufficient. And then if it's low. I will give them some natural progesterone, either in a cream or pill, whatever, I feel like it's gonna work.

• 16:53Mindy Pelz?

  So should, should we be testing hormone levels starting at thirty then, like on a, on a yearly visit to your doctor?

• 17:01Speaker 01

  No, I think you should be starting at twenty.

• 17:04Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, wow.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, because, and I've been testing hormones for people, because hormones are like my, like my passion. Because when you've lived a hormonal conundrum, like you get it.

• 17:18Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  Because the book doesn't tell you, like, living it. And when I've lived every single crazy thing you can imagine, because my body wasn't like a normal female. And, and I don't like, think, I don't, I don't look at that as like, I'm a victim or a problem.

• 17:37Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 17:37Speaker 01

  I, I don't look at it like that. I'm, I have, I have my science brain. I just look at, okay, it's a project. We're a project. We're gonna figure this project out. And then my project helps others.

• 17:46Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, yeah. There's no better project than the one you do on yourself.

• 17:49Speaker 01

  Exactly. So, and then not that everyone's gonna resemble me, because I don't, but at least I'm able to translate that, you know, properly into someone else. Okay. So you've got to listen to the patient, which doctors don't do anymore, because they don't have time to listen to people, God forbid. All right. Because their electronic medical record controls them, all right? And they, it dictates them. And then their corporate entity also dictates them. So they can't, they're not autonomous.

• 18:15Mindy Pelz?

  An insurance companies. You know, people are so excited for their insurance to cover stuff, but they don't realize how the insurance determines the, what the doctor can do.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  Correct. Exactly. Yeah. Or not do, more important.

• 18:29Mindy Pelz?

  Exactly.

• 18:30Speaker 01

  And so, and the insurance doesn't, it doesn't cover. You should just have insurance for catastrophic.

• 18:36Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Because I started out in medicine forty years ago. There were what they called indemnity plans. People don't even know what those are. So you had your insurance. They covered everything, literally everything. Okay? We used to type the medical bill and send it to the insurance companies, and then we got it back, and they paid. If you build a hundred, they gave you a hundred.

• 19:02Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 19:03Speaker 01

  Okay. Those days are over. If you build a hundred, you're lucky you get twenty or twenty-five.

• 19:08Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 19:08Speaker 01

  Dollars.

• 19:09Mindy Pelz?

  Very true.

• 19:09Speaker 01

  Doctor. Okay.

• 19:10Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  So the doctor now. They're maximizing their minute.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  Because they're not getting paid that much, so.

• 19:17Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  So, uh, either they aren't, or the corporate entity isn't.

• 19:22Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 19:22Speaker 01

  And so, so they just, there's no bandwidth for it. There literally isn't, because the doctor's already working twelve, fifteen hours a day, because they gotta type, read this, fill out every little dot and T and, and bubble. And, uh, that's how, that's how it works. Okay.

• 19:40Mindy Pelz?

  So if I'm twenty-five and I'm going in for a routine physical, is there a way I can ask my doctor, like, hey, I would like a full hormone, hormone panel? Is there a way to get that through to them, or, or is that a tough ask?

• 19:55Speaker 01

  Because, well, you can request it.

• 19:57Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  So what you do is, is, I always tell people, the squeaker wheel gets the oil.

• 20:01Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 20:02Speaker 01

  And so I tell people, look, look, here's what you should ask for. Okay? Like minimally.

• 20:09Mindy Pelz?

  Great.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  And actually, lab prices have come down, it's a couple hundred bucks.

• 20:14Mindy Pelz?

  Okay. And, and people can get their own labs, too.

• 20:16Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying. So they can get their own labs, but you gotta know what don't order.

• 20:20Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, of course, but at least you can order them.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  Uh, but you can do that, but I would minimally do a chemistry panel, which is electrolytes, kidney, liver. Then a CBC, those are kind of like basic. CBC checks your white count if you're anemic, and it checks all your blood indices. Then thyroid, but you can't just take.

• 20:44Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  TSH, T3, T4. So many people have autoimmune thyroid problems, so you gotta check that. And then you gotta check their free T3 and free T4. Okay? And then how I always do it is, I always like the patient to do the basal body temperature to make sure that their thyroid's really working.

• 21:03Mindy Pelz?

  Hmm.

• 21:03Speaker 01

  Because normal blood test.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  May not correlate to the patient.

• 21:09Mindy Pelz?

  Right, okay.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  Okay. Then you need a CRP, marker for inflammation. You need a vitamin D. You need a hemoglobin A N C and fasting insulin.

• 21:21Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  You need a D H E A sulfate. You need a pregnenolone, which is the grandmother to all hormones. Then depending on where you are, if you're having normal menstrual cycles, I wouldn't probably spend the money on the FSH, LH, and estradiol and progesterone. I would only do that if you were having symptoms like, let's say you're forty, forty-five, you know, when you're starting to go through pre or perimenopause. Okay. To see if your, if your FSH is high, that means your body's saying make more hormones. So that means your body's starting to fail.

• 21:57Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm.

• 21:58Speaker 01

  Okay. So, and then I would do an iron and a ferritin.

• 22:02Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  So those are like basics. And like I said, you can get that for two hundred, two hundred fifty bucks.

• 22:08Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 22:08Speaker 01

  And now that's basically a basic panel with hormones, but hormones, like, like I said, they're the natural drugs. They make you, they make or break you every day.

• 22:18Mindy Pelz?

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• 22:58Mindy Pelz?

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• 23:43Mindy Pelz?

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• 24:09Mindy Pelz?

  So now, if you, let's say you're 45 and you run that panel.

• 24:14Speaker 01

  Well, then I would add in that, Mindy, an FSH, an LH, testosterone, estrogen, progesterone on day 20 or 21 of the cycle.

• 24:22Mindy Pelz?

  Got it, because we need to know a little more about that. But what I heard in the holistic point of view that you just presented is as a doctor, you would look at those labs and you might see, well, some of these hormones are declining, but I also see that iron is off, vitamin D is low, you know, CRP is high. Like, and then you would, my guess is you would start to treat many of the other things that were out of balance on that blood work before you would give HRT? Is that?

• 24:52Speaker 01

  Not necessarily.

• 24:53Mindy Pelz?

  Okay, so you would do it all at the same time?

• 24:55Speaker 01

  I do it all the same time.

• 24:57Mindy Pelz?

  Got it.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, because usually I kind of, I mean, I know what we need to do, so.

• 25:03Mindy Pelz?

  So if I'm 45 and I have other markers that are off, out of balance, along with declining hormones, if I just take HRT and I don't address the other things that are out of balance, is HRT going to work as well for me?

• 25:21Speaker 01

  No.

• 25:23Speaker 01

  No, your body is fifty trillion cells of an amazing miraculous, you know.

• 25:29Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 25:29Speaker 01

  It's unbelievable.

• 25:31Mindy Pelz?

  Right, right.

• 25:32Speaker 01

  So, everything relates to everything else.

• 25:34Mindy Pelz?

  So, this new, this new trend of like, everybody take patches, like, there was a trend that went around socials, like, put your patch on, put your patch on. It's, it's, it's such a small piece of the menopausal puzzle, is that correct?

• 25:47Speaker 01

  Very, very, one one hundredth or one one thousandth.

• 25:52Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 25:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, no, no, no, no, no. You can't, you just can't do that. First of all, as I said earlier, that you, when your ovaries were making hormones properly, you made like ten estrogens.

• 26:04Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 26:05Speaker 01

  So, the main ones, though, after, you know, with time, are estradiol, which is the patch, estriol, which is protective against breast cancer, phenomenal for vaginal restoration. And estrone, and as we age, the estrone levels go higher.

• 26:24Mindy Pelz?

  Got it.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  So, why do you want to use, like, one piece of it?

• 26:28Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  And then you make progesterone, and so, anytime you give estrogen, you must balance it with progesterone.

• 26:37Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 26:37Speaker 01

  Natural progesterone, not synthetic progesterone, but natural progesterone.

• 26:42Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  And then you need to fix the testosterone. Now, if you've had a history of breast cancer, you're in a whole nother category. You better, that doctor needs to know how to take care of cancer patients. Because why? Estrogen, for everybody, if breast or whatever, is proliferative. It's growing. It's, it's, it makes things grow.

• 27:07Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 27:08Speaker 01

  That's why, when I get a thirty year old with stage four breast cancer, I shut down their estrogen. But I always tell them, okay, that's one one hundredth of what we have to do. But we gotta cut off, because we gotta save your life, because you have three kids.

• 27:22Mindy Pelz?

  Right, right.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  And I said, we have to use things as a bridge to get to the other side.

• 27:26Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. So this, this idea that, that got so popular in the last couple of years that we read the study wrong, the NIH study, we like, we read it wrong, feels like it's such a small piece of the hormone replacement conversation, yet I gotta tell you, on my platform, we have women that are like, I, I, I took HRT, I don't feel any better, or I gained a bunch of weight.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  Gained a bunch of weight.

• 27:50Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 27:51Speaker 01

  That's a huge one.

• 27:52Mindy Pelz?

  It's a big one, and they thought they were going on it to lose weight, or I took HRT, um, and I'm crying all the time now. So is, is there a way we can, cause you know, people are gonna hear this, they're gonna wanna come find you, but is there a way that we can say to our doctor, like, work with us as, how do we work together to find the right dose? I know, um, my, my OB is Dr. Felice Gersh, and, um, we, she won't renew any of my HRT until we do full blood work every 90 days. Like, she is like, almost obsessive on it, which I appreciate, but a lot of women aren't getting that out there, and so many-

• 28:30Speaker 01

  No, because most doctors don't, they go take a course, and they think they have it.

• 28:35Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 28:36Speaker 01

  And then they try to do it Monday, and then-

• 28:37Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 28:38Speaker 01

  They're not, they're missing the pieces.

• 28:39Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  And so fortunately, 40 years, personal experience, plus seeing so many patients.

• 28:47Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 28:48Speaker 01

  You know, you, you learn how to do it, okay?

• 28:51Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  And again, like I said, there's not a one size fits all, and we all, all, everyone is looking for that panacea.

• 28:58Mindy Pelz?

  That's right.

• 28:59Speaker 01

  That one magic bullet.

• 29:00Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 29:01Speaker 01

  And I've never seen anything easy, quick, or fast.

• 29:05Mindy Pelz?

  Thank you. Thank you for saying that. It's not, you know what I always say? The worst thing that happened to health is we made it a noun. It's not a destination. It's not a tangible thing. It should have been a verb. It's like an action that we are doing when we're healthy. Like, it should be, it should, we need to think of it as like, an ongoing project that we're working with, so-

• 29:26Speaker 01

  Well, I say that every decision you make every day is a healthcare decision.

• 29:31Mindy Pelz?

  Hmm, ooh, that's beautiful. That's beautiful.

• 29:34Speaker 01

  And it's true. Think about it.

• 29:36Mindy Pelz?

  So then, is it erroneous for us to say that we read the study wrong? Because for some women, taking HRT, if they have a history of breast cancer- Um, or other markers on their blood that are indicating like I I'm obsessed with hemoglobin A1C like it do we are there some red flags like you you gotta find the doctor who can work with you if you have that history but are there any other red flags that women need to be aware of that they may be getting taking HRT may set them up for a hormonal cancer?

• 30:10Speaker 01

  Yes, well, okay, so the big things that contribute to cancer hormonally, low thyroid, if you're low thyroid, what are what do you have cold hands, cold feet, constipation, dry skin, weight gain and fatigue. So all those contribute to the energy of the cell. Thyroid provides energy to the cell. So if you don't have energy, if you don't have metabolic energy, you have no functionality of the cell, creates a perfect environment for cancer. So that's thyroid. So your thyroid has to be optimal. Okay, you can take all the patches you want, but if the thyroid's not working right, it's not going to be good.

• 30:46Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  Okay. Now, then you talk about, uh, DHEA. So DHEA, so when you're about thirty, your level should be about three hundred to four hundred. That's why I check twenty year olds because a lot of twenty year olds do not have good DHEA.

• 31:03Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 31:04Speaker 01

  Believe it or not. So that is a strong other determining factor of cancer because what? How do you handle stress?

• 31:13Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 31:13Speaker 01

  How do you handle your immune system? It's because you have good adrenal glands and like I said, they make over a hundred hormones. So you not only have to give the DHEA, you have to give the adrenal gland support because you can't give a hundred hormones.

• 31:26Mindy Pelz?

  Right. Yes.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. So then, uh, testosterone is kind of interesting molecule because testosterone gives you that sense of well being in the brain. Okay. Well, sense of well being translate into positivity.

• 31:44Mindy Pelz?

  Hmm, it's beautiful.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  Your cells are listening to your thoughts twenty four seven. And so testosterone down regulates estrogen too. People don't realize that.

• 31:57Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  Okay. And then it's great for your heart, your immune system, your blood sugar, your bones, skin, et cetera. Okay. So a lot of people have, look at all the women on birth control pills.

• 32:11Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 32:11Speaker 01

  Okay, like birth control pills is like, you know, it's not, it's not good. It comes with hazards. Now, if I have a 21 year old that needs birth control, I give them, but then I tell them, here's what we're gonna do. Cause it changes the microbiome.

• 32:25Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 32:26Speaker 01

  Increases growth of fungus.

• 32:27Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 32:28Speaker 01

  Decreases testosterone, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, think about it. You're, you're, you're interfering with the hypothalamic pituitary axis, which is your.

• 32:36Mindy Pelz?

  And we put them on, we put our 12 year olds on birth control.

• 32:39Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Don't even get.

• 32:43Speaker 01

  That's a whole nother topic. We'll get to cover that another time, but don't even.

• 32:46Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, you're right. Okay, let's stay with menopause.

• 32:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, like let's stick to, yeah, cause that's like, yeah. So anyway, uh, and so then prolactin is kind of interesting. I'm seeing a lot of people with elevated prolactin.

• 33:01Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, interesting.

• 33:02Speaker 01

  Yes, and prolactin, I believe, has a lot to do with stress. And so, yes, I make sure they don't have a pituitary tumor by doing an MRI. But I have all these women, young girls, women 30, 30 something years old, who have elevated prolactin, which is also a growth hormone. So, yes, you can use bromocryptine to lower it, which has some side effects, and sometimes we have to do that. But a lot of times I do other things. I always say, look, let's check your stress levels, okay? Um, let's, let's do, uh, let's do a stress inventory. So how are you handling stress? Okay?

• 33:45Speaker 01

  Then I look at toxicity, all toxins, okay? Not one toxin, hundreds of thousands of toxins. Gotta clean the body. We don't, you know, things go to the brain just as well as the liver.

• 33:56Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  And then, um, I use progesterone is a good antidote to prolactin, okay?

• 34:03Speaker 01

  So and that's in men also. So the higher the prolactin in men, the more aggressive the prostate cancer is.

• 34:10Mindy Pelz?

  Ah fascinating.

• 34:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, so so prolactin is that standard operating procedure blood test I do in the clinic.

• 34:18Mindy Pelz?

  Okay. And does it matter if you do blood or like where would a Dutch urinary Dutch test come in?

• 34:25Speaker 01

  Great question. So if I have a premenopausal woman, I'll have her do a Dutch test on day nineteen, twenty, twenty one to see how they're metabolizing estrogens.

• 34:35Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 34:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:35Mindy Pelz?

  That's what I thought. When the first time I saw the Dutch test, I was like, wait, if every woman did this, we would be able to stop hormonal cancers because you would see what the estrogen, at least from a, you know, an estrogen standpoint, you'd be able to see what it's breaking down into.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, at least, yeah, into that context.

• 34:51Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  When we talk about cancer, there's.

• 34:54Mindy Pelz?

  There's right, there's a lot.

• 34:55Speaker 01

  There's a lot going on. And then you have the real danger hormone cortisol.

• 35:00Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 35:01Speaker 01

  So cortisol has a diurnal rhythm. So you can't just do a blood test to cortisol because that's one time of day. So diurnal means daily. So in the morning cortisol is high, noon, it's a little lower. Four o'clock, it's a little lower, eight o'clock, it's a little lower and and nighttime, very quiet. So you have high cortisol, you progress cancer. You cause proliferation, angiogenesis, inflammation.

• 35:35Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 35:35Speaker 01

  Cortisol lowers the immune system.

• 35:38Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  So you have to do a saliva cortisol test.

• 35:42Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 35:43Speaker 01

  And a lot of people have high cortisol because I ask.

• 35:46Mindy Pelz?

  Especially now, especially right now.

• 35:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I ask people like, okay, so tell I ask every patient, every visit, how's your stress level? Oh, I'm fine. I'm like, you're fine. Okay. Be sure you're fine. Okay. But then you do their cortisol test, boom, and they're like always surprised, like, oh, my God, I didn't know. I like, what, you know, because it's it's hard to, I think people just kind of live in fight or flight.

• 36:13Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 36:14Speaker 01

  And in our bodies being attacked every day.

• 36:18Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 36:19Speaker 01

  From the uncivilized civilization.

• 36:23Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, that we're in right now, for sure. Yeah. Can can your cortisol stay high because of some kind of trauma in your childhood? The, you know, the body keeps the score kind of thing like you're you had a trauma. The nervous system still thinks it's it's running from that trauma.

• 36:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, because there's the ACEs study at best adverse childhood experiences. The more of that, the higher, you know, stress and it's wired in your DNA. Until you do trauma drama work. That's why we in all of our physicals. Every every new patient gets an emotional treatment and workup.

• 37:02Mindy Pelz?

  That's beautiful. Yeah.

• 37:03Speaker 01

  Because.

• 37:04Mindy Pelz?

  This is why you're my go to clinic. Anybody who wants to know where to go for cancer, I send them to.

• 37:08Speaker 01

  Can't treat the human.

• 37:09Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 37:10Speaker 01

  Condition without addressing the spiritual, psychological, emotional aspect of a human being.

• 37:16Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, it's so beautiful. So, okay, what if I'm what if I'm forty five? Is the Dutch test still helpful?

• 37:23Speaker 01

  But do it on day nineteen, twenty or twenty one.

• 37:26Mindy Pelz?

  Got it. Okay.

• 37:26Speaker 01

  You know, those days, because that's when progesterone's the highest. So that's when you do the Dutch test. So I do both.

• 37:33Mindy Pelz?

  You do both.

• 37:33Speaker 01

  Serum. I do serum and the Dutch test. Now for menopausal, I use doctor's data test. Because it's a little more comprehensive for menopausal women.

• 37:46Mindy Pelz?

  For the blood test?

• 37:47Speaker 01

  For no, for urine.

• 37:48Mindy Pelz?

  Urine. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

• 37:51Speaker 01

  And so and then for, like I said, cortisol, I'll do the saliva cortisol test.

• 37:56Mindy Pelz?

  Right. So you'll do those three. And how often? So if I'm, let's say I'm in my late forties, I'm on HRT. What would be the normal routine that a doctor would run all that? Once, once a year, twice a year?

• 38:07Speaker 01

  Once a year.

• 38:08Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 38:08Speaker 01

  It depends on the stability. If a patient's not stable, you got to check the blood.

• 38:12Mindy Pelz?

  Got it. Yeah.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  So if you're not stable and if you're not zen, then we need to, you know, we need to change things, you know?

• 38:19Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. So so through your lens, you would say. HRT has some real benefits, but we need to put it in a package, a holistic package. That's unique for that patient.

• 38:30Speaker 01

  Right. And then you also have to address someone's existence. Are they sleeping? If you don't sleep, how are you gonna have good hormones? Yeah. Cause the sleep disturbs our hypothalamic, hypothalamic pituitary axis. Right. Okay, so you gotta get that in order and over fifty percent of the population doesn't sleep. Yeah, it's really true. And don't take sleeping pills, or benzodiazepines, cause those increase cancer risk. Oh, wow. And dementia risk, et cetera. Okay. Okay, then are you drinking water? Most people don't drink water. Yeah. Very few. It's half your body weight plus ten. If you do, when you do exercise, you have to add another ten.

• 39:11Speaker 01

  And you gotta eat, drink purified water, some kind of purified water, okay? And because water provides electricity to your body. That's what people don't understand. Your cells won't have electricity if you don't have water. That's why when people go on a hike and get lost, they die within three days. They never starve. It's they die because of no electricity to the cell. Interesting. Then you gotta eat foods that nourish and strengthen and heal your body. And you have to eat real food. I know that's an unusual concept. But it is, you've gotta eat real food. Yeah, get off the package. If you read, and you need to be a chemist to read the label, then you know this is probably not gonna serve you, even though everything is chemistry.

• 39:54Speaker 01

  But you've gotta eat foods, like every food is like a QR code to turn that cell on, okay? And then you gotta move your body and you can't just, you can't just like walk. We, all men and women need to do walking or an activity, something they like. Because if they don't like it, it's not gonna happen. And then you have to do weights. Because now your muscle mass is a vital sign. And so you've got to, like, we check everyone's muscle fat, face angle, et cetera, hydration, you know, doing a test. That's beautiful.

• 40:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, so and then you're not gonna burn calories if you don't have muscle. Like, while you're sitting, my muscles burning calories. So the more muscle you have, and then your muscles have mitochondria, the more you exercise, the more the mitochondria, the more the energy. That's what people don't understand. Right. And it's just like, this is the way the body works. Right. And women, I would say. Do not do weights.

• 41:02Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, interesting.

• 41:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, most women, well, first of all, I would say in forty years. I I would tell that I can get people to change their eating. But to exercise. It's a much more difficult. That's why gyms are able to stay open because if everyone they signed up went to the gym. They'd be overpacked, overpacked, right?

• 41:22Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, right.

• 41:23Speaker 01

  And so I would say about ten percent of the patients really exercise.

• 41:28Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  But actually, and you got incorporate exercise in your day.

• 41:31Mindy Pelz?

  That's.

• 41:32Speaker 01

  Don't think going to the gym, first of all, like. Like, don't add work to your work.

• 41:37Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 41:38Speaker 01

  Like, just go outside and take a walk.

• 41:40Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 41:41Speaker 01

  You can do pushups on the floor at home. I do my things on the floor at home. I, you know, I don't. Like, don't just think you have to go to a gym. Now, if a gym encourages you to exercise, or you've got someone to meet there with either a friend or a trainer. Okay, great. But incorporate activity. In your day, like, I go and walk outside and have a meeting, okay? And so just. And and and change it up, you know, like, variety is the spice of life, okay? And um, and and let's say you can only, you can't even do a pushup. Well, get on the floor and just get on your knees and do. One. And then one becomes two, and then two becomes three, okay?

• 42:23Mindy Pelz?

  Beautiful.

• 42:24Speaker 01

  And you can do wall sits, tick during commercials, you're watching a movie, whatever, go do a wall sit for a minute.

• 42:29Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  I mean, like, so simple little thing.

• 42:31Mindy Pelz?

  You know, it's it's funny, that's another trend that I've been like, oh, my god, all of a sudden, we're being told. You gotta lift heavy weights, you gotta eat more protein, and like menopause menopause has become this like extreme sport that you've gotta. Keep up with, and I actually did a YouTube video this year that went viral. And I explained the things I was giving up, and one of the things I said I'm giving up is the gym. I'm like, I don't, I don't want to be in the gym, under synthetic lights with loud music, lifting heavy weights, like it feels like it's going against my feminine body. And so many women responded to me and said, yeah, I can't, I'm like, I'd rather hike. I've got a forest behind me. I have an ocean in front of me. I surf every day.

• 43:15Mindy Pelz?

  I'm like, I just want to move my body in a natural state. And then you're adding to this, well, pushups, you know, wall sits, tricep dips. Like, these are not, you don't need any equipment for this.

• 43:28Speaker 01

  Right. Yeah. Well, I didn't have a gym 50 years ago.

• 43:32Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 43:33Speaker 01

  Outside. Okay.

• 43:34Mindy Pelz?

  That's right. Yeah.

• 43:35Speaker 01

  You didn't go to a gym. Okay.

• 43:36Mindy Pelz?

  So true.

• 43:37Speaker 01

  And so, and then, like, are you really gonna go? You gotta say to yourself, are you gonna really go? Okay? But I would say incorporate as much movement as you can in your daily existence. So like, enjoy washing dishes, enjoy doing anything. Like, I, like, run up and downstairs. I, I have to go get something. I just, I go, oh, I get to do more. I get to move more, you know?

• 44:00Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, that's beautiful.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  And, and nature is your best medicine.

• 44:04Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. Yep. I learned that this year.

• 44:06Speaker 01

  For me, I want to be in nature because that's the ultimate balancer, the ultimate energy. You get, people don't realize, you get electrons from nature. Okay? So electrons neutralize abnormal chemicals in your body. So there is, you know, in medicine now, they have a name for it, force bathing. I'm like, oh, my God, now we have a name for it. Okay. It's like, oh, just nature's name. I mean, come on.

• 44:30Mindy Pelz?

  Like, let's just get out there. Yeah.

• 44:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, let's just get out there. And it doesn't have to be an hour because people, like, it's like pressure.

• 44:38Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 44:38Speaker 01

  So start with, I would tell people 15, 30 minutes. And then maybe, like, sometimes I have to, I tell people five minutes every hour.

• 44:44Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 44:45Speaker 01

  You know, somehow get it in, but you you really, really, we know you decrease morbidity and mortality. The more muscle mass you have. And it's a dramatic increase in longevity. So and start with little, like I tell people, I show them how to do a wall sit. And I just go, if you can only do five seconds, get five seconds down pat. Then go to ten and then put on your favorite song, you know, whatever. But make it and make it fun, make everything fun. You gotta like, you gotta say, I'm blessed to do this.

• 45:17Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, I agree. So on the hormone replacement, before we move to two other really key topics I want to talk about. Does it, does the delivery system matter? We've got creams, patches, pellets, trokeys. I mean, it's.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  It's all over the place.

• 45:33Mindy Pelz?

  It's, yeah.

• 45:34Speaker 01

  You name it, yeah. Yeah. Everything, okay. And I've done, I've done every single one of them with the patients and probably personally too. So let, let, we go by pharmacokinetics. So if you take a pill, you absorb or take anything vitamins, pills, you absorb about twelve to fifteen percent.

• 45:54Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  If you use a cream, it's about thirty percent, give or take, because everyone's absorption is a little different. All right. If you do a shot, it's a hundred percent. If you do pellets, it's a hundred percent. Then you probably, someone's gonna probably say, oh, then I'll just do a shot. Well, the problem with the shots, you know, you get this ebb and flow, like it's not constant.

• 46:18Mindy Pelz?

  Now, you get a big influx and then it goes down.

• 46:21Speaker 01

  Right. And then if you do pellets, so pellets are an invasive procedure. I put a little anesthetic in, I make a teeny little incision and I slide the pellets in. Okay. So the problem also with the pellets, it's a little invasive procedure every three months. So then you get a high peak and it goes down too. But some people swear about the pellets. Okay. So you know what I'm saying? They swear and that's what works. And so like, again, it's you meet the patient where they are and you make the patient feel as best as possible.

• 47:02Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 47:03Speaker 01

  So I primarily will use transdermal.

• 47:07Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 47:08Speaker 01

  Okay. Now with DHEA, I usually give it oral. Pregnant alone, oral.

• 47:15Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm.

• 47:16Speaker 01

  Testosterone is not absorbed orally, so you must do it transdermally through the skin.

• 47:22Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 47:23Speaker 01

  Progesterone, like if I have women with fibrocystic breast, I'll give them cream.

• 47:28Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  All right. If they have fibroids, if they have PMS, I will give them time-release progesterone, natural progesterone. Okay.

• 47:38Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 47:39Speaker 01

  So estrogen always pretty much topically.

• 47:43Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  Because you bypass the liver.

• 47:45Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm. Yep.

• 47:46Speaker 01

  And I never used to use estradiol. I use nature, which is some esterol and estradiol.

• 47:52Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, beautiful.

• 47:53Speaker 01

  Okay. And then the other thing is the estradiol cream that doctors give to, for women for vaginal moisture. That isn't the best hormone for vaginal mucosa. The best is esterol.

• 48:09Mindy Pelz?

  Hmm.

• 48:10Speaker 01

  Esterol is E3. It's the weakest estrogen and the best for the vagina.

• 48:17Mindy Pelz?

  Okay, so if you have atrophy or dryness.

• 48:19Speaker 01

  Atrophy, dryness, or let's say you've had breast cancer. I'll use it for women to have, you know, so that they can have normal vaginal tissues.

• 48:29Mindy Pelz?

  That's beautiful.

• 48:30Speaker 01

  And you don't have to do it every day. You've got, you know, I have them do it one to three times a week, depending. I said, you figure out what you feel best on.

• 48:37Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm.

• 48:38Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 48:38Mindy Pelz?

  That's beautiful.

• 48:39Speaker 01

  Uh, then, uh, what other hormones? So estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, pregnenolone, DHEA. So those are the main, I would say.

• 48:48Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 48:48Speaker 01

  Core hormones, okay? But you made a very good point about you must get your lifestyle in order.

• 48:55Mindy Pelz?

  Hmm.

• 48:55Speaker 01

  Because that is what makes it all work. Like.

• 48:59Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 49:00Speaker 01

  Like, I, I tell everyone, I was telling, talking to my son this morning. And for, you know, my kids grew up in this, so they know all this. Yeah, my kids too. My, my kids can talk better than I can. Yeah, exactly. Correct. You're right. And so, and then they can tell you how to do everything. Yeah, exactly, exactly. And so, anyway, uh, so we were talking about, you know, like the biggest thing are these weight loss peptides. But people think that a weight loss peptide is gonna outdo your nature AI in your body that you already have? Yeah. Okay, and then it's not just doing a peptide. Okay. Did you talk to the person about their sleep? If you don't sleep, you gain weight. Yeah. Water, eating, you know, exercise, stress.

• 49:45Speaker 01

  If you don't have that right, then how are you gonna lose weight? That's right. And if you don't cleanse your body, I do the 21 day, uh, cleanse on all my patients. Minimum once a year. They lose eight to 10 pounds with the 21 day cleanse, literally. And feel phenomenal. They say they can sleep better. They go, oh, we got our taste buds back because that food is addicting and it, it changes how your cells work for you.

• 50:10Mindy Pelz?

  I want to tell you about something that genuinely moves me. And that's watching what happens when women come together around real health science. There's something powerful that shifts when a woman realizes she's not broken. She's just been given the wrong information. And when she is surrounded by other women who are waking up to that same truth. Wow, it's magic. The healing accelerates. The consistency becomes easier. The loneliness of the health journey just literally dissolves. And that's what I have been watching over and over again happen inside my Reset Academy, month after month.

• 50:54Mindy Pelz?

  Women who come in frustrated and depleted. They start to find their rhythm, they start to reclaim their energy, and the most beautiful part is they start rebuilding trust with their bodies. Inside my academy, you get monthly trainings, live coaching calls, and an incredible community of women who are all doing this work right alongside you. And I show up every single month with new content, new tools, new ways to explain things, because your body is always changing, and your health education should grow with it. So come join me over there. All you've got to do is find us on resetacademy.drmindypelz.com.

• 51:34Mindy Pelz?

  That's resetacademy.drmindypelz.com. I can't wait to see you there. So yeah, so talk about the GLP-1 weight loss drugs, because you know, I've been just amazed at how everybody has been so willing to accept these drugs as these panacea. But I keep thinking, what's the dark side? What's the dark side? And you had a post where you threw a cancer lens of potentially some of the downfalls of the GLP-1 hormones. Can you talk a little bit about that?

• 52:08Speaker 01

  Well, if you really want to know what the side effects are, you can go read the lawsuits that are out there.

• 52:17Mindy Pelz?

  There you go. Yes.

• 52:19Speaker 01

  Anything you want to know. Okay? And that's all public information. Okay?

• 52:24Mindy Pelz?

  Yes.

• 52:25Speaker 01

  So I tell people, like I, what I tell people is, so 40 years ago, I started my practice with weight loss. So I know all the nooks and crannies on weight loss. Okay, literally, everything. And back then, you know, we had those little calorie books that you could buy when you went out of the grocery store, right? So I know the calorie of everything. And I, you know, I've told patients to do food journals. They hate food journals, but if you don't measure, you can't manage something you don't measure. I hate to say, with anything. Okay? So, so I know the calorie of everything, etc. And then now you have to check the metabolic.

• 53:06Speaker 01

  Metabolic function of everybody. You mentioned earlier hemoglobin A1C. You mentioned, I mean, or I mentioned insulin. Okay. So if you're fasting, insulin is high, then you're not gonna, you're not gonna lose weight. Okay.

• 53:21Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 53:21Speaker 01

  If your hemoglobin A1C is high, you're not only not gonna lose weight that well, you're not gonna feel that good. You have what they call advanced glycation end products. You're aging. I tell people, high hemoglobin A1C is wrinkles in your body. Women get that.

• 53:36Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 53:36Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:37Mindy Pelz?

  Right. What's a good, what would you, what's your recommended A1C for longevity?

• 53:42Speaker 01

  You know, ideal, ideal, ideal, five point zero.

• 53:45Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, yeah. That's what I actually say, five point zero less.

• 53:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Five point zero would be great, but I will let you go to five point two.

• 53:54Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 53:54Speaker 01

  Okay. So, and insulin should be about five.

• 53:58Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 53:59Speaker 01

  Okay. So, uh, the GLP ones, first of all, think about it. You're interfering with the normal physiological process in your body. So that in and of itself is gonna be a price to pay.

• 54:16Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 54:17Speaker 01

  Number two. It is designed to make you feel full, like you're not hungry. So, that in and of itself, are you gonna be eating enough? And are you gonna be eating enough nutritional foods? To make sure that everything is okay.

• 54:37Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 54:38Speaker 01

  Number three, and probably most importantly, it causes every GI side effect possible, from top to bottom.

• 54:48Mindy Pelz?

  Wow.

• 54:49Speaker 01

  So I feel like it's causing, my gut is that it's, you have malabsorption because what do you have? Paralysis.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Wow. So when you have paralysis, your, you know, your body has this natural flow and energy. Think about pulsing. It's pulsing. Like you didn't wake up and say, oh, blood flow, esophagus move, stomach move, intestine. No, you didn't do that because it has this beautiful natural flow and interfering with that. Cause there's absorption taking place from your mouth to your esophagus, to your stomach, to your small intestines, liver, gallbladder and large intestines. Hmm. Okay. Yeah. And pancreatitis, that's why pancreatitis is a side effect. Not to mention cancer, thyroid cancer,

• 55:37Speaker 01

  pancreatic cancer, like you're gonna risk that when cancer rates are one in two people? That's crazy. Cognitive impairment. And one of the biggest things that people complain about is what? Hair loss. Oh, wow. What is hair loss is a sign? A sign of malnutrition.

• 56:00Speaker 01

  Wow. So.

• 56:03Speaker 01

  If I have a patient that comes in and they're 300 pounds.

• 56:08Speaker 01

  I'm like, okay, I'm gonna help you. I'm gonna give you a little crutch. Right. Yeah. And I'm gonna give you a little dose. But you're gonna do this, this, this, this and this. So it needs to be paired with lifestyle. No, no, there, it's, it's a sign on a clock. Right. You must do that. Yeah. And then get off of it. If any online company or any doctor or any corporation is just doling out GLP-1s, you are not doing it with integrity. Yeah. Well said. I'm sorry. Yeah. You are not doing it properly. You, you're not, it's, it's not okay. Right. Okay, let's face it. Yeah. Even the commercials say, Mindy, it must be paired with eating and exercise. Yeah.

• 56:54Speaker 01

  Yeah. Right? Yes. Yeah. So, and I think looking at the, looking at the person.

• 57:03Speaker 01

  Doing everything, making sure you've identified fatty liver, hemoglobin A1C, CRP, vitamin D, is your thyroid working? Is all, everything working for you? Why are you gonna give yourself a shot if your body's only personally working?

• 57:18Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 57:19Speaker 01

  And the warranties now, I used to say the warranty's over at 40. Now I can't say that because I have 25 and 30 year olds here with cancer and other chronic diseases. So now there's no warranty. Okay. And so, so you have to now practice medicine in a way, in a way that never has existed before.

• 57:40Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, that's beautifully said.

• 57:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, it's serious though.

• 57:44Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 57:45Speaker 01

  I'm being, I'm really serious.

• 57:46Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 57:46Speaker 01

  Okay, when the CDC is saying, saying that 77% of the population, the entire population is sick with a chronic illness? And they underestimate? It's 90 something percent.

• 57:58Mindy Pelz?

  Ooh, ooh.

• 58:00Speaker 01

  Okay, so we as a community of humanity, need to teach everyone how to be a good custodian of the sanctuary of their cells.

• 58:11Mindy Pelz?

  Ooh, that was well said. Yeah.

• 58:14Speaker 01

  And that is the truth.

• 58:16Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 58:16Speaker 01

  Seriously.

• 58:17Mindy Pelz?

  And, and what I want everybody to hear is, and this is where Dr. Kneely and I really line up, is there is no free pass. There's no, get out of the shiny object syndrome of like, oh, I'm gonna do this and my life will change. There's, hopefully people are seeing there is a holistic approach to your life that will either make or break you. And

• 58:39Speaker 01

  And if you do something, there is a price to pay.

• 58:41Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 58:43Speaker 01

  It really is, unfortunately.

• 58:44Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 58:45Speaker 01

  So that's what you want to know in advance because you gotta, you've gotta, like, I always, like, when I practice, if I have to give someone a PET scan, okay, how do I protect them from the downside of the PET scan? So if I have to give you a GLP-1. What do I have to do over here to protect the patient?

• 59:05Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, so, so smart.

• 59:06Speaker 01

  So, constant protection, right?

• 59:09Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 59:10Speaker 01

  Right? That's how you are as a mother.

• 59:11Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 59:12Speaker 01

  Protecting.

• 59:13Mindy Pelz?

  Well said, well said, yeah.

• 59:15Speaker 01

  You know, and so that's the way medicine should be, is what do we need to protect, guide, educate, and inspire our patient?

• 59:23Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, yeah. Okay, what about peptides? This new craze around peptides? I keep telling everybody there's some interesting things, but it's really the wild, wild west.

• 59:33Speaker 01

  It is the wild, wild west. And the reason why it's the wild, wild west is everybody's doing it instead of being directed and guided by, by a mother.

• 59:41Mindy Pelz?

  They're doing it on their own. They're like in the back corner, back alley, doing it.

• 59:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. I mean, everyone, like, the salons are doing it. I was like, whoa, wait a second, wait a second, okay. Peptides are nothing new, believe it or not.

• 59:58Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 59:58Speaker 01

  You know, life is all what you shine the light on.

• 1:00:02Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:03Speaker 01

  And now the light is on peptides, okay? But peptides have been around a very, very long time, okay? And, uh, and the reason why I know is because I've used peptides in my practice for a very long time. So what are peptides? Peptides are sequences of amino acids, okay? They're building blocks for an organ, gland, or system. Okay? So, there's peptides for your brain. There's peptides for your mitochondria. There are peptides for your repair of your body. There's peptides for your adrenals. There's peptides for your thymus gland.

• 1:00:45Speaker 01

  I mean, there's so, there's, like I said, there's like 3,000 peptides. Okay, now the top peptides?

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  Are like the top, I would say number one peptide is BPC one.

• 1:00:56Mindy Pelz?

  I knew you were gonna say that one. Everybody knows that one.

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  But in my practice, it's the number one reordered.

• 1:01:03Mindy Pelz?

  Oh.

• 1:01:04Speaker 01

  So that's how I, you know, if you're like, if you notice a difference, you're gonna reorder it.

• 1:01:08Mindy Pelz?

  Right, right.

• 1:01:09Speaker 01

  So that would be the number one peptide. Now, what is that? That is called the body protection compound.

• 1:01:16Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:01:16Speaker 01

  So like if Mindy goes and surfs for three hours and like she feels like, oh, you know, I'm wiped out. If you took BPC one fifty seven, and as long as you don't have cancer, don't take it if you have cancer.

• 1:01:29Mindy Pelz?

  Okay, that's what I wanna know. Yeah.

• 1:01:31Speaker 01

  Yep. Don't take it if you have cancer, then you would use a little BPC one fifty seven. So it helps you recover. It helps you have injuries. Like if I have patients that have bilateral shoulder tears, I tell them, oh, just inject some BPC one twenty seven in their knee, whatever part of their body.

• 1:01:48Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 1:01:48Speaker 01

  You're because it helps your brain. The BPC one fifty seven helps your brain. The first time I ever tried it, I was like, oh, I am on. I was like, well, this is too much. Okay. Uh, cuz I'm kinda sensitive to things, so I went woo, uh, you know.

• 1:02:03Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:04Speaker 01

  It also helps the gut.

• 1:02:06Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  So it's really good to give it as a protective compound if you give a GLP one.

• 1:02:12Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:13Speaker 01

  Okay. Then it helps your body repair like after, like I said, after extreme exercise or aches and pains.

• 1:02:19Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:02:20Speaker 01

  Like you don't have that. And it's a lifesaver for people.

• 1:02:23Mindy Pelz?

  But not if you have cancer. Doesn't matter what type of cancer.

• 1:02:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't use it if you have active cancer.

• 1:02:28Mindy Pelz?

  What about active cancer? What about, uh, would you say that for all peptides in cancer?

• 1:02:33Speaker 01

  You need to be working with a doctor who

• 1:02:35Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  who treats cancer. Like I wouldn't give TGF beta.

• 1:02:40Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 1:02:40Speaker 01

  Which is also a repair of joints and tendons, etc. So I wouldn't give that cuz it has a little, can have angiogenesis.

• 1:02:48Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, right.

• 1:02:49Speaker 01

  So again, be, you have to be very careful with cancer patients.

• 1:02:54Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 1:02:54Speaker 01

  And I don't know if doctors. You know, most doctors don't treat cancer patients.

• 1:02:59Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 1:03:00Speaker 01

  Meaning they refer to the oncologist. The oncologist is not using peptides.

• 1:03:04Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:04Speaker 01

  So he or she doesn't know because that's not even in their toolkit.

• 1:03:07Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. But they walk into their IV clinic and now the IV is serving peptides. I've already had tons of people ask me, which, was this good, okay for cancer, not okay? So they're finding in other areas.

• 1:03:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, you gotta be careful, you know?

• 1:03:22Speaker 01

  You've just got to be careful. But if like, if I want to help your brain, that kind of peptide will be good for you if you have cancer.

• 1:03:28Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 1:03:30Speaker 01

  And then the ones for sleep, there's DSIP, which helps you for sleep. So, but the main ones I use would be BPC 157, TGF beta for joint and all that, as long as you don't have cancer. So we make sure all of our, none of our patients have cancer. We have a very unique preventive program that I will be publishing this year about how I have prevented cancer in patients who come to me to be optimally healthy or health optimization or just, you know, they just want to have a beautiful lifespan.

• 1:04:05Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, amazing.

• 1:04:06Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:04:07Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:07Speaker 01

  So, um, so in that regard, then the one for the skin, you know, women like all the skins. It's the DHK.

• 1:04:17Mindy Pelz?

  It works like a charm.

• 1:04:18Speaker 01

  Yes, and it's topical and or you can inject it, okay?

• 1:04:24Speaker 01

  Then for the, like I said, the brain, there's several good ones, okay? The adrenal peptide. Now, I get, I get these, there's a particular brand I use from Russia. And it's not always good, easy to get things from Russia now, but I started using those like 20 years ago.

• 1:04:41Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 1:04:41Speaker 01

  And, uh, so the one for the adrenal, I love and the patients love it, okay? And it was used for the Russian army and by Professor Cavinson. Anyway, um, so these are great peptides. Absolutely no downside to any of those.

• 1:05:00Mindy Pelz?

  And what's, what's their name?

• 1:05:01Speaker 01

  Capsules, very easy to do.

• 1:05:02Mindy Pelz?

  Oh.

• 1:05:03Speaker 01

  They have multiple ones and I've used those, uh, for a long time. Um, and so you just got to make sure you have reliable sources.

• 1:05:13Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  You know what you're doing. Oh, there's another one I like for women is sermorulin.

• 1:05:20Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, I've heard that.

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  Like that, okay, I like that one. Uh, because that helps stimulate your growth hormone. And so I like that because you get, you have better stamina, better energy. You recover better from exercise and everything.

• 1:05:36Mindy Pelz?

  Amazing, yeah.

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  So, so there's, there's like a lot of good ones. Yeah, mitochondria, moti is great.

• 1:05:44Mindy Pelz?

  Is amazing, yeah.

• 1:05:45Speaker 01

  So again, and then how many peptides can you take, you know?

• 1:05:49Mindy Pelz?

  Right, right. And do we worry if you take peptides that then your body stops making the peptides? No, we don't have that worry, okay?

• 1:05:57Speaker 01

  You don't have to worry about that. I know there's been so much, you know, that people, but it doesn't really, it doesn't do that.

• 1:06:04Mindy Pelz?

  Right, okay, okay.

• 1:06:06Speaker 01

  Like they say melatonin, like there's all these studies about melatonin. I'm like, oh, my God, no, this is erroneous information. Everything's in the dose. You're not going to turn off your pineal gland. First of all, your pineal gland is already pausing. You need a little, you'd need a little bit of melatonin. Now, if you're thirty, you don't, most likely you don't need it, okay? But over fifty, you probably need a little melatonin.

• 1:06:29Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 1:06:29Speaker 01

  Not only for sleep, but it's a phenomenal for your circadian rhythm.

• 1:06:33Mindy Pelz?

  Right, right, yeah.

• 1:06:34Speaker 01

  And then it's great, it's an antioxidant, anti-inflammatory and very anti-cancer.

• 1:06:38Mindy Pelz?

  Hmm, yeah, I've heard that, I've heard that.

• 1:06:41Speaker 01

  So again, if you're sleeping fine, I really don't. Oh, I know one really good peptide because I cycle it every three months and I'll send it all to you, Mindy.

• 1:06:49Mindy Pelz?

  Okay, thank you.

• 1:06:50Speaker 01

  It's called indolent because it lengthens the telomeres.

• 1:06:53Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, for longevity.

• 1:06:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, for longevity. So I do that every three months. I do a, a month and then I take a break and then you get off another month. And that's a, a lot of times how I'll do it is cycle things.

• 1:07:04Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, what about NAD? A lot of people have been saying that NAD can be associated with cancer and they put it in the peptide category.

• 1:07:12Speaker 01

  Exactly, so you want to be careful about it maybe. Yes, so I give NAD sublingual. I do, I have done IVs because I've treated patients for addiction and it's amazing thing to reset their mitochondria back to normal. But a lot of times I just give people shots because there's nothing like a little injection every day.

• 1:07:32Mindy Pelz?

  Agreed.

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  But again, I don't give it to cancer patients, you know?

• 1:07:35Mindy Pelz?

  Right, not active cancer.

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, active cancer or yeah, I just, it's, I'm, I'm very, there's something in science called the precautionary principle. And that's what I, I am, is precautionary.

• 1:07:48Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:49Speaker 01

  Anything new, no, let, let ten million go, people go figure it out.

• 1:07:54Mindy Pelz?

  Figure it out first. Yeah, I, I'm the same way. I'm a little skeptical until I see how long, I gotta do my own research and, and look at my own trends, so.

• 1:08:02Speaker 01

  Well, no, you gotta look at the living laboratory and the results of that.

• 1:08:06Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  You know, because clinical studies, they only use so many people.

• 1:08:10Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:10Speaker 01

  Wait till you get millions doing it.

• 1:08:12Mindy Pelz?

  Right.

• 1:08:13Speaker 01

  And then you see the answer. I mean, look how many drugs have been recalled.

• 1:08:16Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:16Speaker 01

  And people have been killed.

• 1:08:18Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  And they've been recalled, et cetera, and you don't wanna, I don't wanna be a guinea pig. Actually, you know, the oldies, but goodies were good.

• 1:08:28Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  You know, so.

• 1:08:29Mindy Pelz?

  It's true.

• 1:08:30Speaker 01

  Go use older things like medicines. I always try to use medicine that already we've been using for ten, twenty years. It's good. And it's wonderful. Yeah.

• 1:08:39Mindy Pelz?

  I want, let's finish up on this, because I get asked this all the time, and you're the person to answer it. Does fasting work for every cancer, or are there some cancers that you shouldn't fast with?

• 1:08:53Speaker 01

  Well, I would say, first of all, fasting has been around for a very long time. It's probably in every religion.

• 1:09:00Mindy Pelz?

  Yep, yep.

• 1:09:01Speaker 01

  And there's a great, I know you know a lot about fasting, but I always have my patients watch the documentary, The Science of Fasting.

• 1:09:10Mindy Pelz?

  It's great. I, I agree.

• 1:09:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, so if I use fasting for cancer, weight loss, fatty liver, all kinds of things.

• 1:09:19Mindy Pelz?

  All of it, yeah.

• 1:09:20Speaker 01

  And I I was telling you earlier that I only I I the longest I've ever had patients do fasting and these were cancer patients was thirty days. I know people's jaw will drop when they hear thirty days no food. Uh, but I always ask the patient, what do you think you can do? And if a patient says, I can do whatever, whatever you tell me to do. And I go, okay. I throw out stuff and I just see what they can do. Uh, but I love fasting because fasting, the body goes in instant repair cleanup and repair. So, uh, so I love it. Um, it gives a body a rest. The only thing we always have to be concerned about is the rapid release of toxicity to the body. And that's with G O P ones and fasting.

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  Cause G O P ones, people go, oh, I only ate five morsels today. Okay. So what are they doing? That's why they end up in the emergency room with a gallbladder attack. So you want to be careful about the release because your fat acts as a storage depot for toxicity. That is the worst thing about that. It's a metabolic organ in and of itself. So all of it has to go through your liver gallbladder. So you want to be careful about that. You might want to add castor oil packs to your.

• 1:10:32Mindy Pelz?

  Oh, my God, I do that all the time. Yeah.

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  Okay, great. And so castor oil to any part of your body is great. But anyway, but to your liver and, um, you know, you could be doing like detox baths. Like if you don't have sauna, infrared sauna is great. Uh, but you if you don't have that, you can do a detox bath. So, so just be mindful of that is is that the rapid release of toxicity from the fat cells.

• 1:11:00Mindy Pelz?

  What about things like activated charcoal? Is that it's only in the gut that you're going to catch that?

• 1:11:05Speaker 01

  Right. What I use is Zeolite.

• 1:11:07Mindy Pelz?

  Ah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  I use Zeolite instead.

• 1:11:10Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:11Speaker 01

  Uh, but that is phenomenal to catch the toxicity. It's great for cleanup in the gut and the release of toxins. That's something I take every day.

• 1:11:20Mindy Pelz?

  The Zeolites need to be taken in small amounts. So I've seen some people really detox law out quickly and and make themselves crazy.

• 1:11:28Speaker 01

  Right, that's true. It, you know, also it's experience on what zeolites and everybody kind of like says, oh, mine is the best and mine is the best. But people don't realize that zeolite is nothing new. It's a very, very old substance used in industry to clean up.

• 1:11:45Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 1:11:45Speaker 01

  And so, uh, so zeolite is really good, uh, for children and adults.

• 1:11:51Mindy Pelz?

  Hmm.

• 1:11:52Speaker 01

  And because we're living in the great poisoning, so we all need to clean our body daily.

• 1:11:57Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:11:58Speaker 01

  And so, but I always start, people start slow.

• 1:12:02Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, right. That's what I always say. Yeah. Do you have a brand you like?

• 1:12:06Speaker 01

  I use on my patients, something called Zeo Charge.

• 1:12:10Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 1:12:11Speaker 01

  And that's what I find is the best. I've used all kinds of zeolites because I've used zeolite for probably twenty five years.

• 1:12:18Mindy Pelz?

  Yep.

• 1:12:18Speaker 01

  Again, that's also a new thing.

• 1:12:21Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:22Speaker 01

  But I've used that for a very, very long time.

• 1:12:24Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:25Speaker 01

  So, uh, but I use the something called Zeo Charge. That's what I give the patients.

• 1:12:29Mindy Pelz?

  Okay, great.

• 1:12:30Speaker 01

  Uh, and it's like easy to take and people notice, they really notice a difference.

• 1:12:36Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, yeah. Last time you came to me, um, I remember one of the things that stuck out to me the most because you have such a unique lens was you were telling me the trends of patients that you had and you were talking about how they're younger and younger and younger. Um, are you seeing any new trends right now of, of chronic disease that, uh, we're not seeing from our angle?

• 1:12:57Speaker 01

  Well, the number one thing, uh, that I want to talk about, because yesterday I was interviewed for a newspaper and, and the reporter asked me, she goes, she goes, are people interested in prevention?

• 1:13:13Mindy Pelz?

  Please say yes.

• 1:13:15Speaker 01

  And what percent? And I said, well, I will say compared to three years ago, people are now much more, but it needs to be much, much more.

• 1:13:25Mindy Pelz?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:13:26Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:13:26Mindy Pelz?

  Okay.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  I will tell everyone out there, prevention is priceless. It's easy for me to create health. It's complex, complicated to treat illness, sickness and disease.

• 1:13:39Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:40Speaker 01

  Bottom line. And what I'm seeing is that the majority of the population have one or more chronic illnesses and very few people are healthy.

• 1:13:49Mindy Pelz?

  Hmm.

• 1:13:50Speaker 01

  Cancer rates have gone up eighty percent.

• 1:13:55Speaker 01

  From eighteen to fifty-nine years of age in the last thirty years.

• 1:14:00Mindy Pelz?

  Wow.

• 1:14:00Speaker 01

  Eighty.

• 1:14:01Mindy Pelz?

  Eighty percent. Wow.

• 1:14:04Speaker 01

  And it's not like small cancers. We're talking big.

• 1:14:09Mindy Pelz?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:14:09Speaker 01

  Big cancers. When I say big, they're stage four and I'm like.

• 1:14:13Mindy Pelz?

  Like they show up at your doorstep, stage four.

• 1:14:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, e- exactly. I mean, yeah, and it and then every day it's like, should we go to the hospital? Do we do this? Do we? I mean, I just got, they told me, oh, this patient's heart rate. And like, okay, it's stress for me and the patient. So let's like, why, we need to create peacefulness, loving and joy. And we can do that by each one of us taking responsibility and inventory for ourselves. And uh, Thich Nhat Hanh, do you know Thich Nhat Hanh?

• 1:14:41Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, I do.

• 1:14:42Speaker 01

  I love Thich Nhat Hanh. So Thich Nhat Hanh says, peace begins when each one of us take care of ourselves.

• 1:14:48Mindy Pelz?

  Hmm, I love that. That's beautiful.

• 1:14:50Speaker 01

  And so, like, I always tell my children, I go, you have to listen to me, because you know, kids really don't want to listen to you.

• 1:14:57Mindy Pelz?

  Really? I haven't had that experience with my children.

• 1:15:01Speaker 01

  And anyway, I said, you need to listen to me because your problems become my problems.

• 1:15:05Mindy Pelz?

  It's right. And and that's the thing about health. People don't realize that your health actually affects everybody around you, too.

• 1:15:13Speaker 01

  Right. Well, that's what I always say. Look how incredible the world would be if we just all today made a commitment to create health. The patient's going to be happier, the significant others are going to be happier. The family's going to be healthier, because when they all come in, they come in with the family. Then the community and the world's going to be happier.

• 1:15:41Mindy Pelz?

  It's beautiful. Agreed. I could not agree any more than that.

• 1:15:45Speaker 01

  And and so, and literally, it's not some magic potion and pill. It's really not.

• 1:15:51Mindy Pelz?

  No.

• 1:15:52Speaker 01

  It's really, you have the AI in you to do it and take care of you.

• 1:15:57Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah, that's beautiful.

• 1:15:58Speaker 01

  Literally, literally, okay? And people just don't realize.

• 1:16:05Speaker 01

  They miracle they live in. And if we talk from the time you're born that you're a miracle and your body knows how to do everything like, like everyone's talking about the vagus nerve. And I'm like, wait, like my body knows how to do it. I need to get rid of the things that are causing the vagus nerve interruption.

• 1:16:22Mindy Pelz?

  Bingo, bingo.

• 1:16:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, I can't, I don't want, I don't want to do gadgets. Okay. Like I can't do gadgets. I, I gotta be, my day is full to read a gadget. Like, no, no. And sensors and monitors. No. I, I can monitor myself. If my clothes don't fit, I'm gaining weight.

• 1:16:39Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:39Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:16:40Mindy Pelz?

  Well said.

• 1:16:40Speaker 01

  So, anyway.

• 1:16:42Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. Well, you're amazing. Tell me, okay. So you have an updated book. Just let everybody know your book.

• 1:16:46Speaker 01

  Yes, I will show it right now. So this is the cancer revolution. So you want, even if you don't have cancer, like it's how to live. Okay. It talks from everything from sleep, water, emotion, EMFs, you name it, toxins. There's incredible things. Talks about blood work, like all the blood work and why you need it. Whether you have cancer or don't have cancer. And then of course, I have Caneelium D. I try to educate. You know that all the time. I try to think about people, things that people don't think about, Mindy.

• 1:17:18Mindy Pelz?

  I can see that even on your socials. It's really unique. I love it. I love watching it.

• 1:17:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then we, every month, we have the perfectly healthy, where I educate people on something. Or I have special guests, like people who are, because I've been doing this 40 years, I, I like really outside the box things, you know? And, and so I do that. And then of course, we have the clinic, the Center for New Medicine, which is human optimization, longevity and chronic diseases. And then we have the Cancer Center for Healing Science.

• 1:17:52Mindy Pelz?

  Yeah. You, you are a force. You are, you are, you are doing great things in the world. So I, I really appreciate.

• 1:18:03Mindy Pelz?

  The message. Yeah, I just appreciate your holistic point of view, who you are, how you show up, the way you partner with people in their health. So just, yeah, thank you, because this is the conversation I wanted to have around HRT and GLPs. And I think it leaves room for people to understand where they can use it and where they need to take some responsibility on their own. So appreciate you so much, Dr. Caneelie. Thank you.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  Thank you, Mindy. Thank you. I appreciate you.

• 1:18:31Mindy Pelz?

  Thank you so much for joining me in today's episode. I love bringing thoughtful discussions about all things health to you. If you enjoyed it, we'd love to know about it. So please leave us a review, share it with your friends, and let me know what your biggest takeaway is.