Pod Insights Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce Kylie & Donna Kelce on Girls Meeting Minnie Mouse, Best Disney Rides & Untold Jason-Travis Story | Ep. 43 About this episode Kylie’s in Disney’s Magic Kingdom this week for a very special DISNEY SPECTACULAR episode of Not Gonna Lie in partnership with Walt Disney World and AdventHealth. With Cinderella’s Castle behind her, Kylie shares how she can’t believe she’s getting to tape her show from Disney and her girls’ reactions to hearing they were going to the most magical place on Earth (2:02). She also reveals the girls’ most adorable moments with characters and why she feels Disney is extra special for parents seeing the magic through their kids’ eyes.
Then, in “Can I Be Honest?” Kylie talks about visiting Disney as a parent, including how many times she and Jason have gone with their kids and Kylie’s “Not-So-Pro Tips” about navigating the Parks when you have Tiny Humans (9:40). She also shares her kids’ favorite rides and experiences, as well as a tip for moms who might also want a day of relaxation… (11:45)
After that, Kylie gets into “Doomscroll of the Week” where she reacts to one of the most Philly-coded gender reveals ever and shares how she and Jason found out about each of their own kids’ genders (14:57). Plus, Kylie’s all about Elizabeth Banks’ recent comments about women supporting women and there’s also apparently a club in Disney that exclusively plays Disney Channel throwbacks… guys… are we going clubbing?! (22:39)
Kylie then welcomes her mother-in-law and her girls’ DeeDee, Donna Kelce to make this a true family affair (24:42)! Kylie and Donna talk about the first time they met, Jason’s lack of game before he met Kylie and how she chose her grandmother name of DeeDee (29:01).
Kylie also asks Donna about which of the girls reminds her the most of Jason and Travis and they get into the differences between raising all girls vs. raising all boys. Plus, Kylie gets Donna to tell the story of little Jason with the knives, as well as a story she’s never told about little Travis (32:27).
Donna then gives Kylie the piece of motherhood advice she lived by, the best grandparenting advice she’s heard (38:29) and also responds to people crediting her with her sons’ incredible emotional intelligence.
Plus, Kylie has a very special surprise for her daughters at the end of the episode you won’t want to miss (45:51)!
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0:00 Kylie Kelce? Not gonna lie, Wyatt surprised us all this morning when she packed her own Mickey ears. That's right, the Cinderella ears went in her own carry-on bag. And that's on being responsible. Let's get this podcast started.
0:19 Kylie Kelce? Welcome to a very special, very magical episode of Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original in proud partnership with Walt Disney World and Advent Health. I'm your host Kylie Kelce. My favorite Disney character of all time is... I thought I was gonna have it. I thought I was gonna be able to just do it. I thought it was gonna come to my brain and I was gonna be like, yeah, of course that's your favorite character Kylie. I can't choose. I genuinely can't choose. This is what gets me. My gut instinct is to say Tinker Bell. Is it? Oh, I love Nemo so much. That's such a... They're so, they're so far out. Remy is perfect. Oh no. Okay, we're gonna move on because I don't think I can come, I'm not coming
1:00 Kylie Kelce? to a conclusion. Uh, I'm not into roller coasters, but I do love Space Mountain. I know, it's an indoor roller coaster. Don't try and make it make sense. That's ridiculous. And the best Disney song ever is definitely, I'm gonna do it again.
1:16 Kylie Kelce? I thought I was gonna come up with one spot. I'm listening to a lot of Let It Go in Our House right now. But who doesn't love a little, um, A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes, you know? Oh, classic. I'll leave you with those two for now. Oh gosh. Well, we are ones. I guess I'll stop burying the lead. As you can see, this is a very special episode of Not Gonna Lie because I'm taping from the most magical place on earth. That's right. Walt Disney World. This is crazy. We love it here. Look at all the magic. It's happening. Look at all the people walking. And the castle
1:57 Kylie Kelce? is the best. And if you think I'm excited, you should have seen our children.
2:05 Kylie Kelce? And by that, I mean, no one was prepared for the excitement that Wyatt brought at 6:30 this morning. 6:30, that child usually sleeps till eight. We told our kids that we were coming to Disney World a month ago. Because I don't like to surprise them if it's something that's this exciting. It's so much excitement that I don't think their wee little bodies could handle it. Yeah, so we told them a month ago. They have been talking about it ever since. It has been the topic of conversation, who we were gonna see, what we should talk to people about when we get here. The questions we have to ask. We've been saving up.
2:51 Kylie Kelce? So.
2:54 Kylie Kelce? Yeah. It's gonna be, it's gonna be a little nutty. And I'm actually excited to see every single time someone surprises me. Someone surprises me about how they act with a character, or what ride they decide to be brave and get on.
3:12 Kylie Kelce? Last time Wyatt took a moment with Ariel in her cove. And turned back around as we were all getting ready to leave and said, "You're my favorite princess."
3:26 Kylie Kelce? And I promptly had to put my sunglasses back down so that I could cry in peace. I'm tearing up just thinking about it. It's insane. Honestly, bringing your children to Disney World. I've said it, I've said it before and I'll say it till I'm blue in the face. It's for me. It is selfishly for the parents. I know that sounds a little nutty, but I'm gonna tell you why. When you see your kid's face light up at the magic that this place creates.
3:57 Kylie Kelce? It cannot be talked and I stand by that. I guarantee I will cry at least three times while we're here because of a child reaction.
4:10 Kylie Kelce? It's that simple. All right. Coming up on today's Disney spectacular. I'm going to get honest about trips to Disney World as a parent. This includes my personal tips for being in the parks with four tiny humans. Plus I got some quality doom scrolling in on the plane ride down. So I'm going to talk about one of the most Philly coded gender reveals I've ever seen. Plus there's a club in Disney that exclusively plays Disney Channel music. Guys, am I going clubbing?
4:41 Kylie Kelce? Maybe. After that, I'm going to be joined by one of our most requested guests ever. Ever. We were waiting for the perfect time to have her on and being in Disney. Her homeland, I'll call it. This couldn't be more perfect. It's my mother-in-law, Donna Kelce. But first, let's get to our real one comment of the week. Comment says, "We love a 62-minute episode with number 62." Cassidy, you knew it. "Queen Emma broke me down again. That's so crazy. It's like I'm getting weaker."
5:21 Kylie Kelce? You got this Kylie. Queen Emma is trying to work you over, right Queen Emma? Yeah, this week she's right over there. So I get to give her the evil look from right here. I'm going to channel my villain. I'm going to channel my villain and I'm going to send it right over to her. Uh, there's actually a note here from the desk of Queen Emma. So weird. The desk is right there. Hey girl, if we someday welcome an NFL tight end onto this program. No one in particular.
5:57 Kylie Kelce? Just wondering your thoughts on a crisp 87.
6:02 Kylie Kelce? I don't know, it sounds like a great idea to me. Peace, love and turtles. Queen Emma. Great. Uncle Trav's busy. He's busy. And so when he's not busy, he's always welcome in the other chair here. But until then, he's busy. Leave him alone. Next up, my first episode of FAFO with Nikki Marie just came out and I'm glad you guys loved it as much as I loved making it. It was so much fun to get together with someone who shares an absolute love of sports, love of field hockey, and a fellow mother and get to sit down and chat about how sports has shaped her in her
6:42 Kylie Kelce? life, what it's meant to her to have field hockey grow up with her and now to watch her daughter start to play. And we then got to coach we tiny humans to play the sport that we love. So it was, I'm feeling inspired, a magical moment that I am so glad that you guys have gotten the chance to watch. And my next FAFO comes out December 2nd. Any guesses about where I'm going next? Tag us at @ngwithkylie. Moving on, let's get to a very magical edition of Can I Be Honest? Brought to you by Advent Health. This week, let's get honest about Disney World as a parent.
7:21 Kylie Kelce? That's right, it is for us as parents when our kids are as young as mine are. Wyatt remembers everything, but that's just her personality, who she is. Ellie doesn't remember much, which is exactly the phase I'm talking about where it's for me, it's for me. When her little face lights up, when she saw Tiana up in a window, she still talks about it, getting to wave to Tiana up in the window. It's beautiful. We have been to Disney World. I think we've been.
8:00 Kylie Kelce? Six?
8:03 Kylie Kelce? It had to be six because last year we came twice. This is our first time coming to Disney World with four tiny humans. So that's interesting.
8:15 Kylie Kelce? I truly think that each of them have a moment that will resonate with them in whatever age they are. So obviously Wyatt will like something different this year. She's six. Ellie at four is still very into the princesses. Benny has talked about some of the other things and homegirl loves a snack. So she's been talking about the Mickey pretzel. My child. The most afraid of any of the characters, though, would probably be,
8:47 Kylie Kelce? it might be Wyatt. Wyatt has always been someone who is a little wary of characters. So she might be our ringer. I do think the last time that we saw, I want to say it was Donald Duck. We saw Donald over in Animal Kingdom. He was a far enough distance away that he could wave and Benny felt good about it. So I think that that was probably Benny's most favorite interaction so far. Finn, her favorite interaction was with a churro last year while she was still in my belly. So if you know, you know.
9:25 Kylie Kelce? I'm unsure what their reactions are going to be this year. But we might all find out together. Now, as I've said before, a lot of people look at me, see, I have four kids and assume I have it figured out. I don't. I don't know how many times I've got to tell you guys that. The same goes for trips to Disney, but I have gathered a few hacks over the years. So here are my official Disney not so pro tips. Number one, every butt needs a seat.
9:57 Kylie Kelce? She's six. Wyatt is six years old. I have a stroller that collapses small enough to fit under the big stroller. Because in the off chance that she wants to get her butt in a seat.
10:12 Speaker 01 We are not stopping.
10:15 Kylie Kelce? We are going and we will roll with it. I'm, it is my biggest piece of advice. Number two, stay on property at a Disney resort if you can. Their transportation.
10:31 Kylie Kelce? Outstanding. I still remember coming when I was going into sixth grade. We stayed at Coronado Springs. I still remember the breakfast was delicious. It's where I learned to love thunderstorms. If you know, you know, I also love the monorail. You know who else loves the monorail? The girls. And any transportation that I don't have to beg them to get on is a win in my book. Number three, and this is a big one. If it works for your family, consider bringing your kids' grandparents or extended family and friends. Because extra hands and eyes are the best. Yes, that's right. Man to man coverage, everyone. We love man to man coverage.
11:14 Kylie Kelce? Because it means that everyone gets their undivided attention. And even more importantly, you don't miss moments. Number four, shout out to the Rapunzel bathrooms. It's the spot. I don't know why, it's always where we take our potty break. I'm so serious. Number five, if you have a litter of children like I do, that's right, I said a litter. A whole gaggle of geese, if you will. Uh, plan on going on a favorite ride for each of your tiny humans. So everyone has something special to look forward to. Now, if you're anything like mine, sometimes it's not always going to be a ride. It might be an experience or an interaction with a princess or a character.
11:55 Kylie Kelce? Absolutely set something aside for everyone so that you can build up to that moment. And then you can convince them to get where you're going. We love motion. Keep it moving. And since we're talking rides. Here are the top tiny human rides in our family. Little Mermaid Under the Sea Ride. We love to sit in the shells. We love it. Uh, Wyatt does make me cover her eyes at the eels. Because they're a little scary. Everybody knows that. Uh, Journey of Water, inspired by Moana, is, I would say, one of the most underrated experiences in the parks. They get to actually play with the water.
12:38 Kylie Kelce? Our girls talk about it every time they leave. And it is a little walking path, so you can go at your own pace. And there's plenty of different experiences within it, so that you can have everybody engaged and interacting. It's such a good time. We love that ride. Ride experience. Um, Frozen Sing-Along. The Arendelle historians in the Frozen Sing-Along are hilarious. We've seen the show multiple times with different historians, and they are all outstanding. Highly recommend. Um, and the last one is, huh, it's for me.
13:20 Kylie Kelce? It's the Kilimanjaro Safaris at Animal Kingdom. I love it so much. I love it. Also, look for the hidden Mickey. It's in the middle of the flamingos. And lastly, tip number six, for all the real ones with or without tiny humans, treat yourself. Yep, that's right. Uh, I might recommend you, um, maybe just put your kids in the stroller and hand the passes to your husband and the grandparents. And you sneak out,
14:00 Kylie Kelce? send them to the parks, and you go to the spa, the Grand Floridian?
14:07 Kylie Kelce? I don't know, just an idea.
14:10 Kylie Kelce? It's just an idea. I'm not gonna do it.
14:20 Kylie Kelce? Maybe, maybe I'll see you at the spa.
14:25 Kylie Kelce? Guys, that would be so, that would be so messed up. I'd do it though. I would do it in a heartbeat. Who wants to hop in a little couples massage? Cause my husband's gonna be busy. He'll be in the parks. Okay, got it. That's it for my official not so pro tips to dizzy. And that's it for can I be honest? Brought to you by Advent Health. Next up, let's get right into doom scroll of the week. First up, I just saw the most Philly gender reveal ever. And this little girl's honesty frankly belongs in an episode of not gonna lie. Queen Emma, the clip please.
14:59 Speaker 02 Bite into the cannoli and we'll find out where the baby is.
15:04 Speaker 02 Oh.
15:06 Speaker 02 Oh, big cannoli.
15:08 Speaker 03 Very big cannoli. I see it.
15:11 Speaker 02 What is it? It's a boy.
15:13 Speaker 03 It's a boy. Baby boy.
15:15 Speaker 02 It's a boy.
15:15 Speaker 03 Baby boy coming in April.
15:17 Speaker 02 You're gonna have a brother.
15:18 Speaker 04 I don't want a brother.
15:21 Kylie Kelce? I love so many things about this clip. First of all, dressed to perfection. People love it. Everyone's decked out in some Eagles gear. Second, some cannolis. Of course, we got some South Philly cannolis up in there for a little gender reveal. Naturally, my favorite reaction though is the little girl who immediately says that she doesn't want a brother and rolls her eyes. Those eyes shot to the sky so fast. She's a real one in the making. Okay, blunt, honest. I love it.
16:00 Kylie Kelce? What I don't love? Gender reveals. I'm sorry, guys. I know this is such a buzzkill. I know that we have a lot of people out there who have done gender reveals.
16:11 Kylie Kelce? Is not my thing. I think partially because I don't like being surprised. And also because I'm not creative enough to come up with one. Let's be honest. That is, that is not a type C mom thing to do, I would think. That is someone who is far more organized and put together than me. And also, full transparency, I do believe I have discussed, maybe not here on the pod, but definitely to people, about that I do think there's always a certain sense of which way you want it to go. And so if it doesn't go that way, sometimes
16:54 Kylie Kelce? it's not great to have recorded your reaction.
16:59 Kylie Kelce? I think we've all seen the, the duds online. When the, specifically, it's when there's always like two of that gender standing with the parents. And then they like take a bite into a cupcake. And it happens to be the same gender as the kids standing near them. Guys, we should just embrace it. All the hand me downs work. Okay, we're fine. So, no, I would not ever consider doing a gender reveal personally. Jason and I, for our first, I always said that I wanted to find out for our first and not find out for any of our consecutive pregnancies. So we found out when Wyatt was 11 weeks old. I got a
17:44 Kylie Kelce? 10 week blood test. And it was available in the 11, at 11 weeks, we got the results and we checked together.
17:57 Kylie Kelce? When I got pregnant with Ellie, we again got that blood test at 10 weeks. And we were not together when I got the results. And I read them and then called my husband and he said, I thought we were finding out. And I said, yep, that was the plan. But I read it. Now I know, and so you have to know too. We're in this together. And so then we had given up on the idea of not finding out. I really enjoyed personally referring to her as her when I had her in my belly.
18:36 Kylie Kelce? I loved getting to plan in the very small amount of planning that I do. Which is barely any. Uh, but I loved it. I loved getting to figure out their name ahead of time, get to refer to them as their name. That was very fun. The only one that didn't have their name before they came out was Finn. And we called her Pickle. She was fine. Uh, speaking of pregnancy announcements, this TikToker won. She won. Everyone can just give up now because this was it.
19:08 Speaker 05 Now, remember friends. We don't make mistakes. Only happy accidents.
19:15 Kylie Kelce? I don't even know where to start. For our audio listeners, the mom is dressed up as Bob Ross. She has three boys standing in front of her, one of which is fighting for his life to keep a straight face. And also holding a sonogram. And the mom turns to the camera while she's painting on the canvas that is her other children's shirts. And she says,
19:40 Speaker 05 We don't make mistakes. Only happy accidents.
19:44 Kylie Kelce? That is what I will call once, I was once told that that is called a pleasant surprise. Yeah, and that's that. That mom nailed that. I think that if, uh, I think humor being involved in a pregnancy announcement, top notch. But this mom, You nailed it. And also your oldest son nailed it because he tried so hard to keep a straight face. And he did a darn good job. Next scroll, Elizabeth Banks just spoke at the ESPNW summit. And I love her take on women supporting women. The clip, please, Queen Emma.
20:23 Speaker 06 We made a show last year, The Better Sister on Amazon. It was all women and running the show. And guess what? We got home for dinner every night. And you just, it's just like, that's the thoughtfulness behind every decision. Somebody comes in and goes, my kid, I gotta go see my kid in the play. And it's like, we're gonna figure that out for you, you know? And I think people feel comfortable coming to women and saying, I need something, and I'll do my job better if you help me figure it out.
20:54 Kylie Kelce? I love this clip so much. I love that she talks about how we can have work-life balance. I love the fact that she has an emphasis on that women, as women, that we can achieve that. I love that there is the idea that if there is something, attention that your family needs, and I'm not saying needs as in like, it's an emergency or something like that. I mean, needs as in like, there's something that you need to be there for, for your kid. And that includes recitals, plays, potentially like a classroom party that all of the other parents are going to be at. That's okay to accommodate that in
21:36 Kylie Kelce? your schedule, and it's okay to, to mark that as important. Because when you end up missing those things, I truly think that, number one, your kids notice. I think we've all felt that. My, my daughter just started kindergarten, and I've already had a moment of, well, you weren't there. So, I'm gonna do my darndest to not miss another. On NGL, we adopt the same thinking that Elizabeth Banks is talking about. We have quite a few moms that work on the show, all of our queens that we've collected. We value their time, and we value their energy, and we know that their kids also deserve their time and attention,
22:19 Kylie Kelce? and that we don't just have to run ourselves into the ground to do something and create something that's productive and meaningful. So, we will continue to do this. We get it, and we love the messaging here from Elizabeth Banks. Last on Doom Scroll, apparently there's a club on Disney property that exclusively plays throwback Disney Channel music, and I'm so in on this clip.
22:45 Kylie Kelce? Yes, a million times yes. Yes, yes, yes, and then some more yes. Oh, my gosh, yes. The part of this clip that hits the hardest, the Lazy McGuire. Everyone wants to sing that song, right? I just, everyone wants to sing, "This is what dreams are made of," at the top of their lungs, with the lights going and the bass hitting and a room full of people doing it too. "I'm going clubbing. I think I'm going clubbing. I'm gonna drag Queen Emma. We're going clubbing." That does it for Doom Scroll. Coming up, she's the real Disney queen known as DeeDee to my girls.
23:25 Kylie Kelce? It's my mother-in-law, Donna Kelce, right after this message from me about our partner, Advent Health. Imagine this, chat. You've finally made it to Disney World. The kids are hyped. You've got your Mickey ears on and you're ready for a magical time. And then, someone gets an earache. Or you realize you left your meds back at home, next to the coffee maker. Always a classic. That's why I'm genuinely glad Walt Disney World Resort has an official healthcare provider in Advent Health. They go way beyond first aid stations. They have the Advent Health World of Wellness. It's basically like having a health safety net while you're on vacation. You can hop on the Advent Health app and do a telehealth visit. If you need a prescription, they'll deliver it straight to your resort.
24:09 Kylie Kelce? Their urgent care will actually come pick you up. And for anything more serious, there is a first-of-its-kind emergency room located near Disney property at Flamingo Crossings. How reassuring is that? So when you're planning your next Disney trip, add Advent Health to your checklist. Because keeping your crew healthy means you can focus on the fun. You can check them out at adventhealthworldofwellness.com. Our guest was one of the 2024 Glamour Women of the Year, and is always a Woman of the Year to me and our whole family. You may have seen her on the Hallmark Channel. That's my child screaming.
24:49 Kylie Kelce? And her child is the one probably causing it.
24:51 Speaker 07 Oh, yes, absolutely.
24:53 Kylie Kelce? You may have seen her on the Hallmark Channel, wearing her famous Split Eagles Chiefs jersey, or gifting her sons chocolate chip cookies ahead of the Super Bowl. She's our favorite Disney expert, my girl's DeeDee, my mother-in-law, and now she's officially not gonna lie, Donna Kelce, welcome to the show.
25:09 Speaker 07 I'm excited to be on the show. I can't stand it. This is great. And I mean, here of all places. Can't get any better.
25:15 Kylie Kelce? I figured if we were going to do the Donna Kelce episode that everyone's been asking for.
25:22 Speaker 07 Perfect. You know, every time you walk in the gate, it's just like, you feel like you believe in magic all over again.
25:30 Kylie Kelce? Yes, yes, you do.
25:31 Speaker 07 It's a great feeling.
25:33 Kylie Kelce? Uh, now, how does it feel to be one of our most requested guests?
25:39 Speaker 07 Oh, that's interesting. Oh, they must know I have a lot of dirt on the boys.
25:43 Kylie Kelce? I think they know I'm gonna ask the questions to get there.
25:46 Speaker 07 There you go. Perfect.
25:48 Kylie Kelce? Now, you know all the ins and outs of Disney, so we're gonna get into that, but first, the real ones.
25:53 Speaker 07 Yeah.
25:54 Kylie Kelce? For some reason, always want to hear more about our family, so we'll start there. Uh, I don't know if I've talked about the first time that I met you on the podcast yet. Um, I've talked about the first time I met Travis. It was the Pro Bowl trip to Hawaii.
26:09 Speaker 07 Yeah, we were in Hawaii. Yeah.
26:11 Kylie Kelce? Um, do you remember the first time that we met?
26:14 Speaker 07 Yeah.
26:15 Kylie Kelce? I believe it was an Eagles game.
26:16 Speaker 07 Yes.
26:17 Kylie Kelce? Uh, I figured that you would remember only because, leading up to that, the joke was that nobody believed that Jason actually had a girlfriend, because he's not a Rico Suave, everyone. He was not, he wasn't bringing around a bunch of girls.
26:35 Speaker 07 No, no, no, very few, none in high school, uh, and I never knew of anyone that he dated in college. I'm sure there were a couple, but he just never brought anybody home. I guess he was just waiting for you, Kylie.
26:49 Kylie Kelce? Sure, that's what it was.
26:52 Speaker 07 Just waiting for the perfect one.
26:53 Kylie Kelce? That's right. It had nothing to do with the fact that he has no game whatsoever.
26:57 Speaker 07 Well, you know.
26:58 Kylie Kelce? Now, uh, what do you remember from our first meeting?
27:01 Speaker 07 Oh, man, you know, how tall you were.
27:03 Kylie Kelce? Yeah.
27:04 Speaker 07 You, you had a sophisticated air about you.
27:07 Kylie Kelce? That's very kind.
27:08 Speaker 07 Yeah, I know. And it was, uh, I was just really impressed with, you know, how you carried yourself and how articulate you were. And I just was thrilled to death.
27:18 Kylie Kelce? I was very excited to be with you and be eye to eye.
27:23 Speaker 07 Yeah.
27:23 Kylie Kelce? That is always like as tall women, I think you always recognize when someone you walk up to and you're speaking like straight to their face.
27:29 Speaker 07 Yeah, I agree.
27:30 Kylie Kelce? It's something that I don't realize until it happens. Like until I'm talking to a tall woman, I don't realize that I'm looking down towards everybody else.
27:37 Speaker 07 Yeah, I know.
27:39 Kylie Kelce? For anyone who doesn't know this, you are known as Dee Dee to our girls.
27:43 Speaker 07 Yes, yes.
27:43 Kylie Kelce? How did we get the name Dee Dee?
27:45 Speaker 07 Dee Dee came about, um, very selfishly because most babies say the D word first. And so I thought, okay, um, there is already a Nana and there's probably going to, um, be some other names and things like that. So I just, I just did my initial of my name twice. That's all.
28:06 Kylie Kelce? I love it. And also I love the idea that there was a chance that you beat Jason to the punch. Like if, if it was a Dee Dee instead of a Dad Dad,
28:19 Kylie Kelce? we could have held that over him forever.
28:20 Speaker 07 Yeah, but the, but the A vowel is a very, that's a,
28:24 Kylie Kelce? It's easy and it's quick.
28:25 Speaker 07 It is, it is for sure. It's easy to form.
28:27 Kylie Kelce? Jury's still out on Finn. We still have a chance. Now you were just in town visiting. What's the funniest thing that one of the girls has said or asked you ever?
28:39 Speaker 07 Just recently, um, Bennett came up to me and she says, now what's your name again?
28:44 Kylie Kelce? Yeah, she'll humble you. That one, that one's a little nuts. Uh huh. I think I know the answer to this question, but of our four girls, who reminds you the most of Jason?
28:57 Speaker 07 Oh, boy, it's, it's gotta be Wyatt. Yeah, I think so.
29:02 Kylie Kelce? There was, I'm not sure that I've told the story on the podcast before, but I have said before that there was a time when Wyatt, I think she was around two, and I remember her having a tough moment, we'll call it. And you were staring at her in like a very just like observant way. And I looked at you and I said, is it giving you PTSD? And you said, a little bit, a little bit.
29:30 Speaker 07 Yeah.
29:31 Kylie Kelce? Um, who reminds you the most of like a Travis personality?
29:36 Speaker 07 Oh dear. Well, it's usually the second or the third child because they're the ones that are fearless. And you know, you're, you're, you're learning with the first child. So I would have to say that Ellie probably is the one that throws yourself off the couch without abandon.
29:54 Kylie Kelce? Yes, she does.
29:55 Speaker 07 Yeah. So she's, she has, she has no fear.
29:58 Kylie Kelce? I would agree with that.
29:59 Speaker 07 Yeah.
30:00 Kylie Kelce? Donna, as you know, I love talking about motherhood on this podcast. And since I'm married to your son, I have a lot of questions for you. I of course have four girls and you raised two boys.
30:10 Speaker 07 Oh, yeah.
30:11 Kylie Kelce? And witnessing a household of all girls now.
30:14 Speaker 07 Yeah.
30:14 Kylie Kelce? And being close to it.
30:15 Speaker 07 Yeah.
30:16 Kylie Kelce? What would you say are the biggest differences between raising boys and girls?
30:19 Speaker 07 The thing that just amazes me is how they will sit down and do a craft for a certain period of time. That wasn't my experience. It was constantly running around, jumping off of things, getting into trouble, you know, running out the door, starting the car up, you know, when they were three. So.
30:39 Kylie Kelce? Yes.
30:41 Speaker 07 They got into a lot of stuff.
30:43 Kylie Kelce? Now, is there one that you would say is tougher or just different?
30:47 Speaker 07 You know, I think Jason, because he was the oldest and, you know, always the elder child in the family. Not all the time, but especially with Jason, he would tend to listen and follow the rules. Yeah, Travis isn't a rule follower. No, no, he, he runs to the tune of his own drum.
31:07 Kylie Kelce? We had a conversation after I had Bennett, where you had mentioned like three girls still sounds a little bit nicer than two boys for that age.
31:16 Speaker 07 Yeah.
31:17 Kylie Kelce? Because, oh, a bird.
31:20 Speaker 07 It must be one of my ancestors.
31:23 Kylie Kelce? Now, much like you're saying, doing a craft, like we often start our day with like a nice drawing coloring session.
31:32 Speaker 07 Yeah.
31:34 Kylie Kelce? And I have said that in that moment, like a house of boys would never, they would never.
31:41 Speaker 07 No, no, they're breaking the crayons. It's like I saw one time two different fields. There was a field full of boys playing soccer and a field full of girls doing, playing soccer. The girls, you ask them to get in a circle and kick the ball between each other. With the boys, one's, you know, playing basketball with the soccer ball. They are, you know, hitting each other. They're wrestling on the floor. Uh, they're doing everything but what they're told to do. So, yeah, completely different.
32:11 Kylie Kelce? It might be tougher for us later.
32:13 Speaker 07 Yeah.
32:13 Kylie Kelce? Sure.
32:14 Speaker 07 Could be, could be. Yeah, for sure.
32:16 Kylie Kelce? Um, now I also couldn't have you on and not ask about the famous story of Jason with the knives in the front yard.
32:23 Speaker 07 Oh geez. Yeah, we, I had just picked them up from daycare and we had gotten home. And, um, I decided I was gonna go upstairs and change because I had my, you know, workout fit on. So I'm upstairs, I get the shorts on and I hear from across the street, this, uh, person calling, oh my God, he's got a knife. And I knew who it was immediately.
32:48 Kylie Kelce? Did you really?
32:49 Speaker 07 Yes, I knew it was Jason. He was out for, he was the only one that was tall enough they could reach him and I literally had him high up in a cabinet. Uh, because I had to keep everything sharp away from both of them. But yeah, I ran out there. I only had my shorts on and a bra. I literally ran out. And, uh, you know, and then everybody was clapping on the street. They were so excited about that. Picture. So it was really kind of funny, but, uh. He, you know, Jason was literally throwing it up in the, in the air and it would come down and hit the ground and.
33:23 Speaker 07 Yeah. And Travis is just looking at them like, oh my God, that could have went right through his head. But yeah, it's, that was a scary time. That was a scary one.
33:30 Kylie Kelce? Yeah. Uh, I also, I'm always brought back to like little Jason when he head butted grandma.
33:38 Speaker 07 Oh yeah. He did that with my mother. Yeah. Yeah. He just, he thought that was just great fun because Ed and he used to do it all the time.
33:46 Kylie Kelce? Sure.
33:46 Speaker 07 Just as like a little game and, uh. He wasn't even walking. Wasn't even walking. They would just headbutt each other and sure enough.
33:55 Kylie Kelce? Like a little lump tap.
33:56 Speaker 07 Pretty much knocked, um, my grandmother out. I mean their grandmother out. And the other time is Jason was like two months old and I had just dried my hair and he picked up a hairdryer and hit me over the head and I saw stars on that one. Yeah. And he, he wasn't doing it to be mean or anything. He just.
34:14 Speaker 07 I was funny. You know, what's your, your two year old can pick up a hairdryer and.
34:22 Speaker 07 Yeah. He had muscles back then.
34:23 Kylie Kelce? Now as the mother of that man's four children, how can I prevent my kids, uh, from repeating their dad's mistake?
34:30 Speaker 07 Oh geez. You know, I think every child is their own and they come up with their own thoughts. So something that they're going to come up with is going to be completely different than what my children did because they're watching different shows.
34:45 Kylie Kelce? Sure.
34:45 Speaker 07 They're looking at cartoons and I'm sure that Jason had seen that on some cartoon.
34:52 Speaker 07 They both like to mimic.
34:55 Kylie Kelce? Now, you've told so many great stories about Jason and Travis. Is there one that you haven't told? Maybe you've been saving for the perfect moment and maybe this is that moment?
35:04 Speaker 07 I don't know.
35:06 Kylie Kelce? You've aired it out, you've exposed them.
35:08 Speaker 07 Well, there you go. You know, there's one in particular that I do remember. I used to have to keep the keys up high, just like I had to keep the knives up high. And Travis, for some reason, was opening up the drawers and he was climbing up them. He was three. Climbing up the, um, the covers to get to the keys. And, uh, for some reason I was in the bathroom or whatever. I mean, you know, gotta go. And I'm all by myself. I go out, um, the back door and there's two of them sitting in the car. Now, mind you, the car was locked. So Travis would watch us like a hawk. He knew exactly what we were doing. He knew how to unlock the car door, get into it, and then slam it shut.
35:50 Speaker 07 And I don't know how he did it, but somehow, and thank goodness, it was a, um, it was not an automatic. Okay. And, um, he put the keys in the car. He knew exactly what to do and turned it on. And it jumped and went right through the garage door. And Jason, thank goodness, was sitting next to him and he was just like, that's he was so excited. But he could have been standing in front of it. It could have been a really bad moment.
36:19 Kylie Kelce? I will tell you, after watching the dynamic between our own kids now, I wouldn't be surprised if Jason wasn't following him to say, nope, now you, nope, put the, nope, put the, nope, put the key in the hole.
36:33 Speaker 07 Yeah.
36:34 Kylie Kelce? And now you're gonna, now you're gonna wanna turn it.
36:36 Speaker 07 Yeah. So he actually got it started. Yeah, he did at three. So from then on, I always had to have my keys on my purse. I could not hide them. Cause they could see where, where I left them. So, yeah, that was, that was a little scary.
36:50 Kylie Kelce? Not Travis, you're just saving receipts.
36:52 Speaker 07 Yeah, there's some other ones with the car, but I can't go into it.
36:55 Kylie Kelce? The trunk?
36:56 Speaker 07 Uh, yeah.
36:57 Kylie Kelce? When it was gonna be sold the next day?
36:58 Speaker 07 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:00 Kylie Kelce? We'll leave that, we'll leave that one on.
37:01 Speaker 07 Yeah.
37:02 Kylie Kelce? Be out of respect for the individuals involved.
37:05 Speaker 07 Yeah.
37:06 Kylie Kelce? We'll keep that one between us. Okay. Now, you've done an amazing job as a mom. I know how proud you are of Jason and Travis, and they are of you. Um, is there a piece of motherhood advice that you lived by?
37:18 Speaker 07 Oh, dear. Uh, every once in a while, let them fight. Because
37:24 Kylie Kelce? That's great advice. I love this.
37:25 Speaker 07 Because, uh, that's how you learn to negotiate, to do different things. But I mean, if it looks like it's getting kind of, uh, you know,
37:35 Kylie Kelce? A little too
37:35 Speaker 07 Terrible and it's too, you know, it looks like somebody's gonna get hurt. But usually, somebody cries and it stops.
37:41 Kylie Kelce? Sure.
37:42 Speaker 07 So, you know, uh, the unfortunately, the younger one definitely has to, uh, figure it out. And they really do come up with good negotiation skills. And manipulation and some other things. Yeah. Yeah. So.
37:56 Kylie Kelce? Now, as his mom, what have you enjoyed the most about watching Jason as a dad?
38:01 Speaker 07 Oh, I'm just totally amazed that he can be as gentle as he can.
38:06 Kylie Kelce? Mm-hmm.
38:07 Speaker 07 But then he still throws them up in the air on the couch. But that is a softer side of him that I don't think I've ever seen before. And he definitely loves his girls. There's no doubt about it.
38:17 Kylie Kelce? Yep. They've got him.
38:19 Speaker 07 Yeah, they do.
38:20 Kylie Kelce? You're also our first guest who has grandchildren, and we do have a lot of real ones with grandkids. So I'd love to know what grand parenting advice you would give as a first timer.
38:30 Speaker 07 Uh, let them do whatever they want. It's terrible. No, within reason. There are things that I ask you, can I do this? Can I do that?
38:40 Kylie Kelce? Very much so.
38:40 Speaker 07 Um, I think you're there to show them as much love as you possibly can. And I'm not the one that's gonna be the downer. So I try not to be. But every once in a while, you have to say, okay, that's the, that's enough. But yeah.
38:57 Kylie Kelce? I do think that you have an amazing balance of coming in.
39:03 Kylie Kelce? You, they know that you'll bring them sweet treats. Cause that's the grandparents duty. Everybody knows that.
39:09 Speaker 07 Yeah.
39:10 Kylie Kelce? That you have free rein on sweet treats.
39:12 Speaker 07 Yeah.
39:12 Kylie Kelce? Um, and they know that you will sit there and give them your undivided attention and read them books. And so because of that, whenever there is mention of Dee Dee, they're like, where is she? When she get here? Is she here yet? It's a very, there's excitement with it that like is unmatched.
39:29 Speaker 07 Yeah.
39:30 Kylie Kelce? And very obvious that they truly value the time that they get to spend with you.
39:34 Speaker 07 Well, I value it also.
39:37 Kylie Kelce? Now, I do have to ask. Uh, I promised that Donna's Disney guide is coming up next, but real quick.
39:45 Speaker 07 Yeah.
39:47 Kylie Kelce? I know you signed an NDA.
39:49 Speaker 07 Yes, I did.
39:50 Kylie Kelce? But I want to know about this traitor's situation.
39:52 Speaker 07 Okay. Well, I can tell you.
39:54 Kylie Kelce? Tell me when it comes out, Donna.
39:55 Speaker 07 I think sometime in January, uh, the traitor's show does come out. It's season four.
40:01 Kylie Kelce? Yes.
40:01 Speaker 07 Celebrity season four ahead of last on it.
40:04 Kylie Kelce? Say where it was?
40:05 Speaker 07 Oh yeah. It's in Scotland. Yeah.
40:07 Kylie Kelce? And how was that?
40:09 Speaker 07 Just wonderful. There was nothing better than walking through the Highlands at night. Uh, you know, in the complete dark, uh, it, it was crazy. It just, there are so many beautiful things about the Highlands. It's just the mountains and the water and, and everything. It's very, it's very serene and the air was the cleanest I think I've ever, you know, breathed in in my life. I had no trouble climbing up three flights of stickers. I'm like, why?
40:36 Kylie Kelce? This is, this is reminding me, I would like to, I would like the real ones to know.
40:41 Speaker 07 Yeah.
40:41 Kylie Kelce? That one of the things that I think is one of your like secret superpowers is travel.
40:48 Speaker 07 Oh, I do love it.
40:49 Kylie Kelce? How secret it is.
40:50 Speaker 07 Yeah.
40:50 Kylie Kelce? Uh, cause I yell it from the rooftops. Your way of travel is so impressive. Your thirst for like knowledge and the way that you travel the world is one of the most.
41:05 Kylie Kelce? Intriguing and exciting things. I love when you travel because I get to vicariously live through your travel experiences. Um, but that actually brings us to the fact that we are in one of our favorite places to travel and also one of yours.
41:23 Speaker 07 Been here many, many times.
41:25 Kylie Kelce? It's not that far for you to travel now.
41:27 Speaker 07 No.
41:27 Kylie Kelce? Because you are a Florida resident.
41:28 Speaker 07 I am.
41:29 Kylie Kelce? But that brings us to Donna's Disney Guide. Alright, now, the main event. We promised the real ones, your insider guide to Disney.
41:39 Speaker 07 Hey, alright.
41:39 Kylie Kelce? I'm gonna let you take it away. Uh, where do people absolutely need to go when they come to Disney World? Your musts, sops.
41:48 Speaker 07 It definitely depends on how old your kids are, or where you are in your life, but if it's adults, definitely, you know, you gotta go to Epcot. If it's children, you definitely have to come to Magic Kingdom and Hollywood Studios. Uh, there's just so many wonderful places to go, wonderful things to eat, for any age. It's just, just a magical place. It really is.
42:12 Kylie Kelce? What's your favorite thing to eat in the park?
42:14 Speaker 07 Oh, geez. I think caramel apples. I just love caramel apples, for sure.
42:20 Kylie Kelce? That's my mother-in-law.
42:21 Speaker 07 Yeah, there you go.
42:23 Kylie Kelce? Um, now, do you have a favorite ride personally?
42:26 Speaker 07 Yes. Favorite all-time was the one that just came out, well, a couple of years ago, is Guardians of the Galaxy. That is, I could ride that over and over and over again. I love that ride.
42:37 Kylie Kelce? Rumor has it that I will be riding that ride this week.
42:39 Speaker 07 Yes. Yes.
42:42 Kylie Kelce? I'm a little nervous about it.
42:44 Speaker 07 No, don't be. You will love it.
42:45 Kylie Kelce? I know. You've given it rave reviews. I just am nervous.
42:49 Speaker 07 You're watching the world go by as you're going around it, so it's fun.
42:53 Kylie Kelce? Um, now, do you personally have a favorite park?
42:56 Speaker 07 I would think that Epcot probably is my favorite, just because I love Soren, I love...
43:03 Kylie Kelce? And you love travel.
43:04 Speaker 07 Yeah, I do. I love to see all the different, uh, you know, countries and go around the park and see all the different types of food. It's just, uh, you can't beat it.
43:14 Kylie Kelce? And you've, you've never lost the, the love of Disney?
43:17 Speaker 07 I try to get as many times as I can. Obviously, you know, growing families. You can't go as many times as you really want to go, but um it was I ju- it's just a special place. It just feels like home to me. And it's just this feeling like you're just free of all the strife and things that are happening in your life that are weighing you down.
43:42 Kylie Kelce? I also really appreciate that you have made this your home and that we get to come and not only visit Dee Dee, but get caramel apples together.
43:53 Speaker 07 For sure. That's good. It's always the best.
43:56 Kylie Kelce? Um, thank you so much for coming on Not Gonna Lie.
43:59 Speaker 07 No problem.
44:00 Kylie Kelce? It has been incredible having you and specifically in the happiest place on earth.
44:05 Speaker 07 It doesn't get any better.
44:06 Kylie Kelce? It's magic.
44:06 Speaker 07 I know.
44:07 Kylie Kelce? It's the Disney magic.
44:08 Speaker 07 Yes, absolutely.
44:09 Kylie Kelce? Um, now, before we wrap this episode, I have one more surprise. We need tiny humans.
44:16 Speaker 07 Oh, of course.
44:22 Speaker 07 Okay, um, I just want to let you know that I do buy your merchandise. This is one of the things that I purchased.
44:28 Kylie Kelce? Guys, you should go get yourself a hat. You can match Donna.
44:32 Speaker 07 Yes, there you go.
44:33 Kylie Kelce? Look at it. Come on. Look how beautiful she looks. While we're waiting on children, I do want to circle back just for a second about motherhood for you.
44:41 Speaker 07 Yeah.
44:41 Kylie Kelce? And obviously, I said, like, a lot of people are fans of your work. In other words, really appreciate the two men that you have helped raise. And a lot of people have a lot of feelings about the fact that they are both so, what I think most people would refer to as emotionally intelligent.
44:59 Speaker 07 Yeah.
45:00 Kylie Kelce? Is there something that you and Ed were doing that, like, encouraged that? Or is that just like who they are at their core?
45:06 Speaker 07 I, I think both Ed and I are very emotional at times, and we do cry at movies and what have you. But I, I think that's just in their DNA. You know, it's something that they have in their personality. I don't think you can teach that or anything. But um, they just feel things very deeply. They do.
45:29 Kylie Kelce? And I just want to emphasize that, and I hope you already know this, I'm a big fan of your work. Big fan. There you go. Cause he's great and I love him and I appreciate that you raised him.
45:40 Speaker 04 Very good.
45:40 Kylie Kelce? Okay, we have, we have one more surprise. So we're gonna get Chica's in here. Can you come see me? Come on guys. Hi. Hey, how are you doing? Hello, is Benny coming? Hi Wyatt. Oh, here comes Benny. Yup, she's coming. She changed her mind. Alright, Ellie, here you go. Hello, okay. Can I come over here? Hi, I'm gonna move this. Can I move this or no? Here, here you go, come on in. We have a surprise. Oh, that was mean. Okay. Finny, you can't grab her hair. Okay. We do have a surprise for the tiny humans. It's a very exciting surprise.
46:20 Kylie Kelce? And I think it's on its way. It's, it's in, it's on its way in a minute. Finny, do you want to tell everyone something? Let's see.
46:28 Kylie Kelce? There we go. Oh Wyatt, anything to tell the listeners? Hi. Where are we right now? I like your back, pal. In Disney World. Is it amazing? Do you love it here? Do you like the castle? Come on, hop up on the chair with me. There you go, scoot your honey back. Do you want to show everyone your back?
46:47 Kylie Kelce? Okay, awesome. What princess do you want to see? Jasmine. Were you guys eating something, maybe? We got treats. We got treats. I think the surprise is here, maybe. It is.
47:04 Kylie Kelce? Do you think she'll come over here? Okay.
47:11 Kylie Kelce? Hi Minnie. Guys, it's Minnie. Look at. Ellie, she's your favorite, she's wearing your favorite color. Hi. Hello, Minnie. She drew you a heart, Ellie. You want to blow her a kiss? What do you say, Benny? Oh, now she's silent. She went silent. She's bigger than she thought. She was talking all about you. You're a tall girl too.
47:37 Kylie Kelce? Benny, who is it?
47:40 Speaker 07 Do you want to blow her a kiss? Say hi, you can wave if you don't want to talk. Yeah, give her, blow her a kiss? Aw, that's so sweet.
47:51 Kylie Kelce? Benny, how's, how's Mickey doing? Is he good? He's good. Oh, you love him? I have one of those.
47:58 Speaker 07 Yeah.
47:59 Kylie Kelce? Love him. Oh, are we so excited to meet Minnie? Should we take a picture? Go ahead, why?
48:06 Speaker 07 There you go, we'll come with you. There you go.
48:10 Kylie Kelce? Oh, perfect. Okay.
48:12 Speaker 07 Wow, this is awesome.
48:12 Kylie Kelce? Girlies get together.
48:13 Speaker 07 There you go.
48:19 Kylie Kelce? Do you love her eyelashes? Do you want to know if she's wearing mascara? My little makeup baby?
48:27 Kylie Kelce? She loves makeup, Minnie.
48:30 Kylie Kelce? Oh, oh, Minnie said yes to mascara. Do you think she wears lipstick? Do you wear lipstick to get fancy, Minnie? Look at her putting lipstick on.
48:43 Kylie Kelce? She's studying her face.
48:49 Speaker 07 Alright.
48:50 Kylie Kelce? Do you want to give Minnie a hug? Go ahead.
48:53 Speaker 07 Aw.
48:55 Kylie Kelce? Oh, that's so nice. Thank you so much, Minnie. It was so good to see you.
49:01 Speaker 07 Aw.
49:03 Kylie Kelce? Say bye, Minnie. Oh, thank you, Minnie. Okay, that's a wrap on a very magical episode of Not Gonna Lie from Disney World. You can find even more of our clips from my longer conversation with Donna on my YouTube channel on Monday. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. Follow Not Gonna Lie on all social media, @NGOWithKylie. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. If you haven't seen our first episode of FAFO, check it out right now on YouTube. Not Gonna Lie is a Wave original, brought to you by Walt Disney World and Advent Health. Thanks to the real ones for tuning in.
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